WEBVTT - Dan Carroll -- 12/6/25 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:11.039 Seven hundred WLW twelve seven Dan Carroll till three this afternoon, 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:18.279 seven hundred WLW Cincinnati. It's Hamilton County where the word 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:25.320 has gone forth that we love crime. We re elect 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:28.840 politicians who don't do anything about crime. The judges too, 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:33.000 we re elect them. And now the word has gone 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:35.240 forth that if you want to come to our city 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:40.440 and you want to engage in criminal activity, if you 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.840 want to engage in destruction of property, if you want 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:47.519 to take a police barrier and smash it through the 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:51.480 window of the Hamilton County Justice Center, you are going 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:57.880 to get paid. You are in line for well, a 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:02.920 nice chunk of change, let's put it that way, absolutely fantastic. 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:08.360 The City of Cincinnati in Hamilton County settling a class 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:12.840 action lawsuit filed in response to hundreds of arrest made 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:18.000 during the protest in twenty twenty following the George Floyd 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:22.000 incident in Minneapolis. It says the murder of George Floyd, 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:25.479 but as we know, he died of a drug overdose. 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.440 In the settlement, the City of Cincinnati and Hamilton County 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.320 agree to pay more than one point I'm sorry eight 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:38.720 point one million dollars to four hundred and seventy nine 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:44.760 people arrested, two million dollars. More than two million dollars 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:49.520 goes to the attorneys, and each of the individual was arrested. 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:55.600 I believe the number is around twelve grand something like that. Absolutely, 0:01:56.000 --> 0:02:00.600 it is a great day to be an agitator of protester, 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:06.080 especially if you're downtown Cincinnati. Absolutely fantastic. And so I 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.200 was thinking about this, and I'm thinking, you know what, 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:11.320 I know some people in the Hamilton County Sheriff's Department 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.960 who were there when that was going on. I know 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:18.839 people who were in the Cincinnati Police Department who were 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:23.280 there when all this activity took place. And one of 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:25.760 the guys who was there is the guy who was 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:30.400 at the time the president of the FOP Our Buddy 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:34.240 Dan Hills, and Dan Hills, thanks for being here as 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:39.040 you are rocketing westward on I seventy four heading to 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:42.920 Indianapolis for the Big Ten Championship game. Before you do anything, 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:48.040 I want you to look down at your spinnometer and 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.200 tell me what number your cruise control is set on 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:51.840 right now. Don't lie. 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:55.120 You know, I'm not a fan of cruise control really, 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.679 I just like to drive. Yeah, and I'm home right 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:02.120 around and let's say the mid seventies. I was going, 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.079 it's always good to be not clear when you're when 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:05.720 you're being paid. 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:07.800 I was going to ask if that number started with 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.480 an eight or a nine. No, no, no. 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.880 No, we'll be out there early. And yeah, it's one 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:17.680 of the campus get to I get to I get 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.320 to break on my lovely wife because this is a gift, 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:23.120 my Christmas gift is going to the Big Ten championship. 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:25.079 That's a good woman right there. 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:27.800 That is huge, that that congratulates. That's going to be 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.760 a fun time tonight at the It's at uh it's 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:32.720 at the big Lucas Oil Stadium, right. 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.720 Yeah, it's at Lucas Oil State. I don't I don't 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:39.720 watch the football this time of year outside. Yeah, I'd 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.920 rather I'd rather be on my I'd rather be on 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:47.360 my sofa, be outside watching watching my Buckeyes. But no, 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:51.400 this this game's indoors. That's that's gonna be awesome. 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:54.600 So Dan Hills, as I recall and and hope, I'm 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:58.520 hoping my memory serves me well. Here in in twenty twenty, 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.880 in the summer of twenty twenty, after the events that 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:05.400 happened in Minneapolis with George Floyd, and we saw you know, 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.280 we all saw the video. We don't have to relitigate 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:10.440 all that protests broke out across the city. I remember 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:14.160 going home at those nights and I would tell my wife, 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:15.880 you know what are we going to watch on TV tonight? 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:17.520 And I would tell her, you know what, I'm going 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.000 to watch the riots. Because the riots went on night 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.960 after night after night, all in various cities across the country. 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.200 And then it got to the point where eventually those 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:32.360 activities came to Cincinnati, and I remember buying large talking 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:36.479 about the great job that Cincinnati police did with the 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:40.560 assistants or in conjunction with Hamilton County Sheriff's deputies, as 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:45.920 you took to the streets downtown Cincinnati and prevented widespread damage. 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.640 There was some damage that was done, but you prevented 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:52.679 widespread damage by what, by doing what, by enforcing the law, 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:58.279 allowing people to have their voices heard, to engage in 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:03.160 First Amendment rights. But then when those things started going sideways, 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:07.320 when there was actual violence or actual property damage that 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:10.240 was occurring, that was the time when you moved it. 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.359 That's my memory of how all this went down, you 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:16.760 were out there. Give me, give me from your point 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:19.120 of view, how all of this went down back in 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:19.720 twenty twenty. 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:25.000 Well, like you said, there was the incident of George 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.760 Floyd that we now know more and more about that 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:33.120 was manufactured to get this, to get the country in 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:37.360 this mode that it was. That was a demonstration slash 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.920 rioting because some people were demonstrating, some people were doing 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.520 it right, some people were doing it legal, and there 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:44.800 are a lot of people. 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:45.000 That were not. 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:47.880 Now you're right, we were blessed. I was back in 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.080 the riots that we had here in two thousand and one, 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.560 and those things from Jump Street were very very violent, 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:58.159 fire for being set property, all sorts of assaults. I 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:02.280 remember coming across a gentleman that had been beaten three 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:04.359 quarters of the way to the grave and and and 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:09.520 luckily he did survive. So that was extremely violent, and 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:11.599 you know, we figured we might be headed for the 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:16.680 same things here. Uh but uh, Mayor Cranley, I don't 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.479 know if you mentioned him or not yet, but he 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:22.960 put that curfew out and then we were we were 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.360 out there enforcing it. In this case, like you said, 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:28.680 I was the union president, so I wasn't out there putting. 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:30.040 Hands on or anything, but I was. 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.880 I was had the freedom to go everywhere, So any 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.839 hotspot that was picking up, I'd go and check it 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:37.799 out and give support to my cops. I was bringing 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.880 them water, datorades and all that sort of thing. And 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:45.080 you're you are right again that Cincinnati was doing a 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.080 lot better than a lot of the other towns. But 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:51.000 there was Hey Drew that was criminal. There was objects 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:54.400 being thrown, there was windows that got smashed. There were 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:58.520 these things that then led you to as as a 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:03.120 police department and police depart leadership, to realize that they 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:06.520 are acting in a in concert as a group to 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:11.400 do things that are dangerous for the average everyday citizen 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:15.400 out there. And you had to respond to the group. 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:19.200 And so that means, while we value individual rights, that's 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.360 what this country has made on at times of civil 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.720 unrest like this, you have to do what you have 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.600 to do. And our police officers did what they had 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:31.360 to do without any abuses of civil rights, without any 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:35.360 unneeded violence. They locked people up, and they locked people 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.320 up on that on that curfew, which again that's a 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.840 that's a legal move to make. In these particular times, 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.360 you can't just have a curfew just because you feel 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.600 like it. You have to have a reason, and we 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:51.480 had plenty of reasons, not only what was happening in Cincinnati. 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:55.640 It was definitely part of the part of the case 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.400 to be made is that things were happening all around 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:01.800 the country that we did not want to happen here, right, Yeah, 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:06.960 so so so acting quickly on this being progressive, progressive 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:11.280 about getting ahead of this and letting people know that 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.040 this here in Cincinnati is not one of these places 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:18.960 for where you are going to let the riders control 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:22.680 the narrative and and take the streets and on on 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.360 on on a grade scale of house and say police 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:28.000 handle back. I wish there was something above a plus 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:34.840 because there should be, because our our offers, our leaders, 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:38.360 everybody just just knocked it out of the park and 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:42.040 again kept Cincinnati safe, and nothing like what eyewitnessed in 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:46.440 two thousand and one came about there there. There there was, 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:50.240 like you've already acknowledged, there was violence. There was stuff 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:53.360 thrown at us. Hector was even a policeman that got shot. 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.240 These these are all awful things, but they never got 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.720 to they never got ahead of us to the point 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.240 where you know, the city was being burned down, the 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:07.559 city was threatened. And and for that, instead of instead 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:12.920 of the council and the law departments standing by the 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.840 actions that we took, they decided, like you said, to 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:21.960 make everybody a little a little rapt present for being 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:25.480 part of these crowds that did not disperse when they 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:28.280 were told to disperse, did not stay home when they 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.600 were told it was time to stay home. They could 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.360 have peacefully protested during the day. They could have carried 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:38.120 all their signs about George Floyd and and UH and 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.880 and the racism and all these things that they believe in. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:42.840 They could have done all that during the day. They 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:47.120 could have they could have spoke with their First Amendment rights, 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.640 and then they could have went home when we said 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.439 it was time to go home to keep the city safe. 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:56.400 But they chose to stay and continue to press those buttons. 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:00.360 And for that, now they are being rewarded for through 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:04.080 breaking the law. They are being rewarded financially. 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:06.199 You know, it's absolutely disgrace. 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:09.640 If I was on my way to Andy right now, 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.200 I'd be filling up some bottles with urines. I could 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:17.160 go down there and throw them and and yeah, i'd 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:20.600 have to protest about Selton. I I don't know, uh, 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:22.480 maybe the maybe the Bengals season. 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:24.400 And then and then then you go knock on, you 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.960 go knock on the door of al Gerhardtstein and you 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:28.599 just say, hey, I mean, I know, I need a 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.040 little class action lawsuit here, and he'll take the case 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.280 and in a few years you'll have your payout and 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:38.120 it'll be fine and dandy. The this The Fox nineteen 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.400 got a couple of quotes from Mayor John Cranley, and 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:44.280 here's what John Cranley had to say about this. He 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.920 John Cranley said that curfew and our police department saved 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:52.360 our city when other cities were burning. Everything I saw 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:58.040 was of the utmost professionalism and restraint. Their actions saved 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:01.560 our city. I want the record to show they did 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:05.559 a great job. So there's a mayor who is serious 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:09.320 about protecting the city, who is serious about dealing with 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:14.800 crime and criminal issues in a meaningful way. And after 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:18.520 his administration left office, now we have a new city manager, 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.560 we have a new mayor. And at the end of 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:26.880 the Fox nineteen piece, they write the Cincinnati Council's Public 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:30.760 Safety and Governance Committee is expected to approve the settlement 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:34.800 in an ordinance on Tuesday, December ninth. So I would 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:39.320 I would appeal to the members of the Public Safety 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:44.079 and Governance Committee to reject this settlement, show some spine, 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.640 show some backbone, and let the message go out that 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:50.400 in the City of Cincinnati, we are not going to 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:55.680 financially reward people who engage in criminal activity. Why is 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:56.839 that so hard to do? 0:11:59.600 --> 0:11:59.800 Sam? 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:00.400 Put this? 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:02.120 Put this down. You might want to write it down. 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:07.440 My cart sure is twelve nineteen pm that that Dan 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:17.960 Hills is loving the statements of a democratic politician. Yeah, 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:21.720 John Cranley, uh did a very good job. Uh and 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:26.720 and and allowed us to do our job during those riots. 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:30.240 And now he's telling the truth, and he's out there 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:32.959 and and and they should listen to him. They should 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:36.520 listen to a democratic politician. I know that's that that's 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.640 something that both Dan Carroll Dan Hills rarely ever say, 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:44.840 but in this particular case, he's right. We saved the city, 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:48.400 and he made it possible for us to save the city. 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:54.120 And then for these politicians now to to refute what happened, 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:57.920 to to dismiss what happened and say, hey, you know 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.800 those guys are reckless, and you know what a bunch 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.440 of bull about. You know this changes in policy and 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.200 procedure and all that stuff. There's nothing that's going to 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:10.920 be different to next time there's rights. You know, the 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:12.800 officers have to be tempted to say, you know, what 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.199 the heck with this? It's it's all we're going to 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.319 do is make rich people and be condemned for our actions. 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.800 And maybe we should just sit back and watch it, 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:21.839 watch it burn. 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.800 But you know that this is part of the settlement. 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.520 This is part of the settlement. A creation of a guidebook, 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:31.520 Dan Hills, a creation of a guidebook which establishes formal 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:35.600 standards for dealing with protests and similar events. So, I 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.680 guess sharel Long with her vast knowledge of how to 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:42.800 deal with events like this, when you're talking about riots, 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.400 when you're talking about people who are doing criminal damaging, 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:50.400 when you're talking about unruly crowds in the streets, I 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:53.520 guess Sharyl Long, the city manager, is going to use 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:57.160 her vast knowledge and experience experience to create a guidebook 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:00.720 that is going to tell police exactly how they should 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.960 behave in situations like this. How do you see that 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:04.480 working out? 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.840 About likely as good as I see as share along 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:13.280 wearing a helmet and uh and and popping off rounds 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:14.000 of pepper ball. 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:15.800 How about how about that? 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:16.079 Yeah? 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:16.760 How about that? 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:17.920 Yeah? 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.000 A man of post. Why don't you catch one of 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:24.560 those yellow fluid filled bottles that they were throwing at 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:28.120 at at our coppers? Why don't Why don't you stand 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.800 there wondering, you know, is instead of it being objects 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.480 thrown at you, when is there going to be more 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:37.640 shots fired at you? All these things you have to 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:42.120 wonder when you're standing there dealing with a crowd that 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.680 some are peaceful but some are not. And you know, 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:48.080 one of the things we did very very well is 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:52.520 they kept a really good monitor on the people that 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.320 were coming from out of town that were coming here 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:58.400 to stir up trouble. And I think that's that's another 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.400 key of what happened, because we got on top of 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:03.640 it so quick, The numbers of the police department got 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:07.160 on top so quick. The word went out and whatever 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.600 chat rooms or whatever these people talking is that you 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:12.840 can't get You can't get a lot of headlines done 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.080 here in Cincinnati. You'll just end up in jail. And 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:18.920 so I guess, like the complaints were after I came 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.800 here and tried to make uh, you know, anarchy occur. 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:23.840 I had to wait too long to go to the 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:26.320 potty while I was waiting to be processed as a pro. 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.240 Yeah, what a huge violation of civil rights? 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:35.400 What a huge I think my blooney sandwich in time, 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.720 and I didn't get to go peepee because the officers 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.280 had me sitting out in the sally port waiting to 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.200 be processed. Well, I'm sorry. We don't have a system 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.760 that it is always dealing with mass arrests. And you 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.680 can't just snap your fingers and and and turn on 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:53.960 that system. And so if you want to play this 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:58.840 game and and that's professional rioting, you're going to have 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.120 to realize that it's it's it's a big boy in 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.440 big girls game. And sometimes you might not get a 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:05.520 potty break when you won. You might not get your 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.440 blowney standing right away, you might not get processed and 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.600 get out ason as you want. And so they should 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:13.640 learn to accept these things. And they should also learn 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:17.560 to accept that if you try to monetize this, the 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.840 city of Cincinnati is not the place where that's going 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.640 to happen. Of course, it looks like justiff the opposite 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.440 is going to happen. We're going to apologize all over 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.800 ourselves for for you not getting a potty break, and 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:31.760 so here we go. We're going to give you big, 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:34.400 big dollars. I mean, I haven't done the math yet. 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.560 Comes out to about twelve thousand, six hundred dollars per 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:40.400 a little over twelve grady. 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.280 That's not a that's not a bad payday. If I 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:47.120 didn't have if I didn't have this great football game 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.040 to go to, and uh, you know, I could find 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:51.200 something to protest about. 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:51.880 I should. 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:54.120 I should be headed down to Cincinnati now hoping to 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:58.360 get locked up for my money, baby, my peaceful money, 0:16:58.320 --> 0:16:59.480 and my peaceful protest. 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.160 And here's the other thing. I was talking to a 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.680 friend of mine on the way here, and she suggested 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:06.480 to me that there's a strong likelihood that a lot 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:10.400 of these agitators, who I think we learned subsequently we're 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:13.000 not from here, came here from out of town. We're 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:16.760 probably being paid already to show up in protest. So 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:18.639 it's a it's a little bit of a for a 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.240 lot of these people. There's probably some double dipping action 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:23.119 going on there. I don't know that for a fact, 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:24.960 but I think we've seen. 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:28.399 In the past George in their pocket. 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.480 But they very well could have, because we know that 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:33.760 that's part of his history. In his past, he has 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:37.760 paid people to show up and demonstrate. And uh and 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:39.280 and we and we see a lot of you know, 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.080 there are a lot of these people. When you'll see it, 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.080 like these independent journalists will go out and ask them questions, Hey, 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.040 why are you here? What are you protesting for? Well, 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:50.480 I don't know. I'm just here. And of course they're 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.120 they're collecting a paycheck to do that. But Dan Hills, 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.640 we got to run. Thank you for taking the time 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:59.520 as you are driving to Indianapolis to watch the Big 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.399 ten champion hip game. Who do you like tonight, Indy 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:03.600 or Ohio State? 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:04.400 Oh? 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:05.680 I'm all about Ohio State. 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:08.840 All right, now, there you go, go, Bucks. 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:09.320 Go Bucks. 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:09.640 Yeah? 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:11.840 Are are you rocking your Ohio State gear? 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:13.640 You know it? 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:14.160 Back? 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.480 Yeah, I'm I'm scarletting gray all the way. 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:18.840 All right, Dan Hills, have a great time tonight. Tell 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.080 your wife I said hi, and we'll talk again soon. 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:24.800 My friend appreciate it, you bet, Dan, no problem? All right, 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:28.200 there you go. Dan Hills, the former president of the FOP. 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:30.600 He was out there. He was there and if you 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:36.160 remember this, why should these people be getting paid? Drew Western, Heidi, 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:38.800 you let's open the phone lines five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.200 eight hundred, the big one if you want to weigh 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:46.280 in on this eight million dollar settlement. And so the 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:51.000 word is going forth that here in Cincinnati, we love crime. 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:56.840 We pay criminals to engage in criminal activity. It's a 0:18:56.840 --> 0:19:03.040 beautiful thing. On seven hundred ww, City of Cincinnati is 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:06.520 going to pay eight point one four million dollars. Sixty 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:09.919 five thousand of that comes from Hamilton County because of 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:14.560 this class action lawsuit stemming from from protests in twenty twenty. 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:19.320 The mayor put a back then put a curfew in place, 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:25.160 and I guess somehow that's a violation of people's civil rights. 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:29.040 He had four hundred and seventy nine people in the lawsuit, 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:33.000 so hundreds of arrests were made. Like Dan Hills was 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:35.520 talking about, takes a little time to process that when 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:37.800 you go to the when you go to the justice center, 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:40.760 and maybe they didn't get to go potty right away 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:43.440 and they had to sitting around. Maybe it'll be a 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:47.800 little uncomfortable. The I've been to the Hamilton County Justice Center. 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.240 Haven't ever been processed there, but I used to work. 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:54.560 They're not the most comfortable building in the world, not 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:57.280 the you know, not the most accommodating place if you're 0:19:57.320 --> 0:19:59.359 going to be spending some time there. But how about 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:02.600 you don't commit crime. How about you don't get yourself arrested. 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:07.359 How about you don't go and damage and break things? 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:13.240 And so the protesters who were out there, but think 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:16.560 about the message at this sense. If you were out there, 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:20.359 and Dan Hills who was out there, and and I 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:22.159 and again I've got other friends who were out there 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:28.520 as well, in in service to the community because they're 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:32.160 they're various formed of law enforces. And if you were 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:35.760 out there and you were protesting and you didn't engage 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:40.840 in criminal activity, you didn't break things, you didn't smash windows, 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:44.719 you didn't shoot at police and firefighters, as I recall, 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:47.639 and there was there was also an incident where it 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:50.960 turned out that a I think there was some fire 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:56.080 apparatus that they discovered had some were hit by bullets 0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:02.439 during all of this. So if you didn't engage in 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:06.679 criminal activity and you were exercising your First Amendment rights, 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:11.119 how do you feel Now, how do you feel? And 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:14.480 you know you went out there, you demonstrated, you protested, 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:18.760 you did it the right way. You exercised your first 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:21.600 Amendment right, which I will say I will be here 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:26.760 all day talking about your ability and your right to 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:30.359 do that, and so will Dan Hills. But the minute 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:33.440 you cross that line, that's a different story. But if 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:38.679 you were one of probably the vast majority who went 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:42.639 out there and demonstrated, did it the right way, exercised 0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:45.400 your first Amendment right, you didn't engage in criminal activity, 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:49.159 didn't get arrested, and now you are seeing the people 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:56.199 who did get arrested are getting paid twelve grand apiece? 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:02.080 How do you feel about that? Who's the chump? Now? 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:10.440 Damn it. I should have broke that window. I should 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:13.000 have I should have flattened the tires on that car. 0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:15.920 I should have punched the police. I should have thrown 0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:21.439 a bottle with some urine in it. Then I'm in 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:29.080 line for a paycheck? Ken in Cincinnati? What's going on? Five? One, three, seven? 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:30.920 The big one of you? If you want to jump 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:33.160 on board, Ken, am I making any sense at all? 0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:34.360 If Dan? 0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:37.680 You, Dan, you and the previous Dan are right one 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:43.199 on it and as a taxpayer, I am one against this. 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:50.320 Selling this behavior with our tax dollars. Selling it period 0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:55.000 is asinine. There the more you reward bad behavior, the 0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:57.760 more you're going to get it. And all of this 0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:02.159 is just an affront to all taxpayers and just to 0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:06.959