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Speaker 1: nice chunk of change, let's put it that way, absolutely fantastic.

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Speaker 1: The City of Cincinnati in Hamilton County settling a class

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Speaker 1: In the settlement, the City of Cincinnati and Hamilton County

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Speaker 1: it is a great day to be an agitator of protester,

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Speaker 1: Dan Hills, and Dan Hills, thanks for being here as

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Speaker 1: That is huge, that that congratulates. That's going to be

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Speaker 1: a fun time tonight at the It's at uh it's

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Speaker 2: But they chose to stay and continue to press those buttons.

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Speaker 1: And then and then then you go knock on, you

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Speaker 2: And now he's telling the truth, and he's out there

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Speaker 2: And then for these politicians now to to refute what happened,

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Speaker 1: But you know that this is part of the settlement.

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Speaker 1: This is part of the settlement. A creation of a guidebook,

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Speaker 2: About likely as good as I see as share along

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Speaker 1: How about how about that?

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Speaker 2: A man of post. Why don't you catch one of

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Speaker 2: wonder when you're standing there dealing with a crowd that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what a huge violation of civil rights?

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Speaker 2: What a huge I think my blooney sandwich in time,

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Speaker 2: and I didn't get to go peepee because the officers

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Speaker 2: to accept that if you try to monetize this, the

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Speaker 2: to happen. Of course, it looks like justiff the opposite

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Speaker 2: so here we go. We're going to give you big,

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Speaker 1: Comes out to about twelve thousand, six hundred dollars per

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Speaker 2: That's not a that's not a bad payday. If I

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Speaker 1: I should.

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Speaker 2: I should be headed down to Cincinnati now hoping to

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Speaker 2: get locked up for my money, baby, my peaceful money,

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Speaker 2: and my peaceful protest.

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Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. I was talking to a

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Speaker 2: In the past George in their pocket.

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Speaker 1: But they very well could have, because we know that

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Speaker 1: that's part of his history. In his past, he has

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Speaker 1: like these independent journalists will go out and ask them questions, Hey,

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Speaker 1: why are you here? What are you protesting for? Well,

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I'm all about Ohio State.

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Speaker 4: All right, now, there you go, go, Bucks.

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Speaker 1: Are are you rocking your Ohio State gear?

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Speaker 2: You know it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm scarletting gray all the way.

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Speaker 1: All right, Dan Hills, have a great time tonight. Tell

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Speaker 1: My friend appreciate it, you bet, Dan, no problem? All right,

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Speaker 1: there you go. Dan Hills, the former president of the FOP.

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Speaker 1: He was out there. He was there and if you

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Speaker 1: remember this, why should these people be getting paid? Drew Western, Heidi,

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Speaker 1: you let's open the phone lines five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven,

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Speaker 1: We pay criminals to engage in criminal activity. It's a

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Speaker 1: this class action lawsuit stemming from from protests in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: The mayor put a back then put a curfew in place,

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Speaker 1: He had four hundred and seventy nine people in the lawsuit,

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Speaker 1: Haven't ever been processed there, but I used to work.

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Speaker 1: They're not the most comfortable building in the world, not

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Speaker 1: didn't get arrested, and now you are seeing the people

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? Who's the chump? Now?

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Speaker 1: Damn it. I should have broke that window. I should

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Speaker 1: I should have punched the police. I should have thrown

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Speaker 1: line for a paycheck? Ken in Cincinnati? What's going on? Five? One, three, seven?

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Speaker 1: The big one of you? If you want to jump

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Speaker 7: You, Dan, you and the previous Dan are right one

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Speaker 7: on it and as a taxpayer, I am one against this.

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Speaker 7: Selling this behavior with our tax dollars. Selling it period

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Speaker 7: is asinine. There the more you reward bad behavior, the

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Speaker 7: then I hope that we the citizens can somehow put

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Speaker 2: City council members pay it out of their own pocket.

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Speaker 4: This is where I draw the line.

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Speaker 1: Let me here's ken. Here's the statement that city Manager

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Speaker 1: reached a settlement, and I'm especially proud of our CPD

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Speaker 1: While the incidents that led to this case predate the

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Speaker 1: Thank you to solictener Werner the entire law department for

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Speaker 1: hard work. How about you say, you know what, I'll

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Speaker 1: see you in court. Four hundred and seventy nine protesters,

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Speaker 1: I'll see you in court, al Gerhartstein, how about we

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Speaker 1: didn't do anything wrong. The mayor has the power and

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Speaker 1: you break the law, you get arrested, you don't get

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Speaker 8: The law, yeah, and I'll tell you this sends that

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Speaker 8: whole message of the defund the police and that entire

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Speaker 8: up and let the city council and Sheryl Long pay

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Speaker 8: it out of their own park. I didn't have her

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Speaker 1: Well, these the city's public safety ken thank you very

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Speaker 1: much for the call appreciation. According to Fox nineteen, the

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Speaker 1: this settlement and to prove it with an ordinance on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: This coming Tuesday, I don't know if anyone will have

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to speak in front of this committee to

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Speaker 1: make their voices heard. What what if people show up

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Speaker 1: to this committee meeting And I am not advocating violence

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Speaker 1: of any kind, but let's just say. What if people

443
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Speaker 1: show up to this committe meeting and they're upset and

444
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Speaker 1: they start breaking things at city Hall? They smash the window,

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Speaker 1: knock over some deaths, just to create a disturbance and

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Speaker 1: destroy some proper pretty in the process. Are these council

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Speaker 1: members going to stand up and say, yes, these people

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Speaker 1: must be paid. We must pay them because they you know,

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Speaker 1: our actions are making them upset. They might have to

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Speaker 1: go to the Justice center and it's very uncomfortable there.

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Speaker 1: We might have to pay them. Think about what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: And of course this settlement was approved. It was approved

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Speaker 1: before the election. This was in place before the election.

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Speaker 1: It didn't come out before the election. Because to my

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Speaker 1: way of thinking, any member of council should have this

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Speaker 1: issue come out before the election. Every member of council

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Speaker 1: should have had to answer the question, you get re

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Speaker 1: elected to council, are you going to approve this settlement?

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Speaker 1: You're going to be in favor of eight point one

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Speaker 1: million dollars Melanie and Cincinnati, what say you? Then we

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Speaker 1: got Pete.

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Speaker 3: Mark.

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Speaker 9: Hey, I just wanted to let you guys know that

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Speaker 9: I'm trying really hard to help Americans stay free and alive.

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Speaker 9: And I'm telling you that we've got a problem with

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Speaker 9: certain aspects of Zionism. And I know you guys are

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Speaker 9: really defensive of that and stuff that I understand, but

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Speaker 9: I'm telling.

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Speaker 1: You, well, what's one way Wait, hold on, Melanie, what's

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Speaker 1: that got to do with this settlement that's going out

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Speaker 1: to these to these agitators and punks and thugs who

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Speaker 1: want to do damage and break things in the city

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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: Because if as.

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Speaker 9: I've tried to explain to people there that I've called

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Speaker 9: into before I came from the other side, I know

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Speaker 9: their tactics. One of their great tactics is to cause

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Speaker 9: as much trouble into bankrupt each city with like messing

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Speaker 9: with the police. It's all it's all coming from a

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Speaker 9: certain set of rabbis, and I'm Jewish, so I'm just

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Speaker 9: here to help, all right, Well.

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Speaker 1: That's great, to take that somewhere else, Pete in Blanchester.

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Speaker 1: Then we got Mark, Pete, what's going on.

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Speaker 10: Yeah again, I from what I know of, sheer long

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Speaker 10: shitting manager. I don't think she has the ability to

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Speaker 10: manage a Burger King, let alone manage the city of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean she's a Look, I mean, here's a

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Speaker 1: multi million dollar settlement that's going to be paid out

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Speaker 1: under her watch. The former police chief Mike Washington is

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Speaker 1: in line for another multi million dollar settlement because of

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Speaker 1: his wrongful termination one of the first actions that she

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Speaker 1: took upon assuming office as a city manager. The police

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Speaker 1: chief Teresa Fiji is most likely in line for a

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Speaker 1: multi million dollar settlement because of the treatment at the

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Speaker 1: hands of this city manager. So that's and who knows

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Speaker 1: how many how many other many more millions this city

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Speaker 1: manager is going to cost the city of Cincinnati before

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Speaker 1: she's done. And you got to turn your beat. You

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Speaker 1: got to turn your radio down, brother, you really you

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Speaker 1: got to turn that turn that way then, because that

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Speaker 1: is that is throwing you off. Okay, come on, Pete,

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Speaker 1: get with the problem.

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Speaker 6: I gotta turn down.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's a little better. Go ahead.

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Speaker 10: I think Teresa, I think she's nothing.

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Speaker 6: But a wimp.

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Speaker 10: We got a we got a dyne, a jar head, a.

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Speaker 5: Leather nature in Blaantster for the police chief.

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Speaker 10: He's he's uh, he knows how to write, he knows

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Speaker 10: how to be.

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Speaker 4: A police chief.

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Speaker 5: Here Teresa is nothing but a wimp.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well you can you can think that all

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Speaker 1: you want, but uh, Teresa Thiji was simply doing try

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Speaker 1: and and I've talked about this before. Teresa was trying

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Speaker 1: to walk that fine line between doing what's right and

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Speaker 1: doing what she was told by the city administration, by

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Speaker 1: her bosses. And so on one hand, you've got Mike Washington,

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Speaker 1: who wasn't going along with all the politically correct and

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Speaker 1: the DEI nonsense, so he wound up getting fired. On

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Speaker 1: the other hand, you've got a police chief who was

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Speaker 1: trying to accommodate all the woke and DEI wishes of

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Speaker 1: this administration, and she wound up being removed from her job.

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Speaker 1: They both wound up in the same place. How does

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Speaker 1: that happen? Where does the fault lie with that? You

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Speaker 1: decide for yourself. Mark in Cincinnati, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Just listening to you getting a little more upset by

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Speaker 5: the minute.

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Speaker 1: Dan, Well, I'm sorry I'm making you upset, but you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm upset about this too. I don't live

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Speaker 1: in the city. I do live in Hamilton County. So

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Speaker 1: sixty five grand to this is coming from Hamilton County,

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Speaker 1: so that that that hits me a little bit, doesn't

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Speaker 1: hit me to the tune of, you know, eight million dollars.

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Speaker 5: But still they have to do bonds right now to

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Speaker 5: get the eight million. Where's that coming from?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to have to issue Chris Mendelman was

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Speaker 1: talking about that with Mike Allen earlier this morning, and

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Speaker 1: the city's going to have to issue debt in order

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Speaker 1: to pay this. Isn't that isn't that great? We're we're

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Speaker 1: going to do another million in the hole so we

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Speaker 1: can pay a bunch of thugs and agitators and UH

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Speaker 1: and we can pay Gerhartstein and his crew as well.

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Speaker 1: Two million dollars for the lawyers. That's great, It's just great.

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Speaker 5: It was the estimate of the UH property damage for

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Speaker 5: that whole thing.

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Speaker 1: That's a good that's a good question. I know, I

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Speaker 1: know that would.

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Speaker 5: Be if you have a class action of the people

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Speaker 5: that did all this and they're getting compensated. Now you

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Speaker 5: have a fund to reimburse all the insurance companies for

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Speaker 5: the money they paid out for the broken glass windows

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Speaker 5: and everything else that happened, because they admittedly are the

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Speaker 5: class that caused all the problems.

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Speaker 1: Well Mark, if you remember, if you remember twenty there

557
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Speaker 1: were there were various cities that were on TV every night.

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Speaker 1: Why because buildings were burning, police cars were being overturned,

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Speaker 1: stores were being looted, people were being shot and killed.

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Speaker 1: It was murder, mayhem, teeth, haro and I all over

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Speaker 1: the place. And when those demonstrators came to the city

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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, what did we do. We shut them down.

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Speaker 1: We had minimal damage done. It stopped right there because

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Speaker 1: the Mayor, John Cranley said, I'm not putting up with

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Speaker 1: this crap. There's going to be a curfew. You're off

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Speaker 1: the streets and if you violate it, guess what, You're

567
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Speaker 1: going to get arrested. So the city of Cincinnati did

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Speaker 1: not make national news that time because what because we

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Speaker 1: dealt with this issue in a serious and meaningful way.

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Speaker 1: And now we're talking about the people who were inconvenience

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Speaker 1: by this, The people who broke the law, people who

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Speaker 1: got themselves arrested because of their own criminal activity, are

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Speaker 1: now getting the payout of over twelve thousand dollars. What

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Speaker 1: kind of message is that it's absolutely sickening and disgusting.

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Speaker 5: Right, But what I'm thinking is if all that damage

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Speaker 5: didn't happen after the curfew, some of it happened before. Sure,

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Speaker 5: So if there's the wherewith all the collect money. Now,

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Speaker 5: if I'm a business that had to put it through

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Speaker 5: my insurance and I'm there insure, say now we have

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Speaker 5: eight million dollars of a fund to take back that

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Speaker 5: twenty thousand dollars for the plate class window out of

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Speaker 5: city gear on Race Street that I saw get broken,

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Speaker 5: and all the looting that went on in the other

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Speaker 5: three or four places on Race and all around town

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Speaker 5: that were before ten o'clock. Because that's the four hundred

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Speaker 5: and odd people that were the class that committed the

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Speaker 5: problem and the crimes. So now you have the wherewithal

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Speaker 5: the attached their money them.

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Speaker 1: You make a good point. If I suffered a loss

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Speaker 1: as a result of this tremblin activity, now do I

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Speaker 1: have redress to go back to the city to be

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Speaker 1: made whole? I think you have an excellent You have

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Speaker 1: an excellent.

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Speaker 5: Point, bat to take that settlement, put it an escrow

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Speaker 5: and say, all right, if you had you know, you

596
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Speaker 5: paid out of pocket for your window or a deductible,

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Speaker 5: and your insurance company once here part back because now

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Speaker 5: we have a resource to take it from you. Maybe

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Speaker 5: the criminals at least give the people that incurred the

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Speaker 5: expense the money back.

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Speaker 1: Maybe your insurance rates rised as a result of this.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're paying more for insurance now. Maybe you can

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Speaker 1: get compensated for that because of the because of these incidents. Mark,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate Mark, how you're glad to see your thinking

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Speaker 1: out there. I appreciate the appreciate the phone call.

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Speaker 3: Glad to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Mark, good good work today. We got to

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Speaker 1: get to a break. I got to take a breath.

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Speaker 1: News coming up the top of the hour. After the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour, my buddy Tom King, who was

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Speaker 1: a great constitutional lawyer, is going to be here. You

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Speaker 1: may have heard during the newscast today that the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court is going to hear arguments as it relates to

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Speaker 1: birthright citizenship and the Fourteenth Amendment. There's something I've talked

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Speaker 1: about many times before, but I think it's important to

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Speaker 1: talk about it today because this is going to come

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Speaker 1: to a head and we will talk about the constitutionality,

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Speaker 1: what the Fourteenth Amendment actually says, and other issues about that.

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Speaker 1: So stick around for that. Dan Carroll intil three this

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Speaker 1: afternoon on seven hundred WW one O eight. I'm Dan Carroll.

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Speaker 1: We rolled till three this afternoon. Drew wester Heide is

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Speaker 1: running the big board in the seven hundred WW command Center. Hey, Drew,

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Speaker 1: who's in it for me today? Who singh sterling is here?

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Speaker 1: That'd be great? All right? So you've heard during the

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Speaker 1: news most of the newscast today that the United States

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court has decided to hear arguments about the constitutionality

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Speaker 1: of President Trump's executive order. Then the title of this

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Speaker 1: executive order, I'm looking at it right here, protecting the

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Speaker 1: meaning and value of American citizens citizenship by the authority

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Speaker 1: best in me as President, by the Constitution and laws

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Speaker 1: of the United States. It's hereby ordered. The privilege of

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Speaker 1: United States citizenship is a priceless and profound gift. The

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Speaker 1: Fourteenth Amendment states, and this is important, all persons born

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Speaker 1: or naturalized in the United States are citizens of the

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Speaker 1: United States and the state wherein they reside. But see

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Speaker 1: that that's not the entire statement. There's a portion of

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Speaker 1: that statement that gets left out all the time, and

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Speaker 1: the portion is this all persons born or naturalized in

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Speaker 1: the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are

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Speaker 1: citizens of the United States. And that's a very very

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Speaker 1: important line in that statement. Joining me now is Tom King,

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Speaker 1: who is the Chief Council of the Republican Party and

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Speaker 1: the Great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. And Tom King, great to

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Speaker 1: have you here today, my friend. How are you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Dan, It's always great to be

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Speaker 4: with you. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: It isn't it interesting when you hear this debate on

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Speaker 1: the news and this story reported on the news, that

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Speaker 1: that section of the fourteenth Amendment is always left out

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Speaker 1: about being subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Do you find

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Speaker 1: that interesting?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yes, this is a this is a case. It's of

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Speaker 4: great interest to lawyers and would be of great interest

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Speaker 4: to historians and citizens generally, and so it leave it.

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Speaker 4: If you leave that section out, then there is no case.

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Speaker 4: But if you include the section as it's written in

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Speaker 4: the Constitution, in the amendment, in the fourth Amendment to

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Speaker 4: the Constitution, then it brings up a lot of interesting scenarios,

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Speaker 4: including what it was intended for At least in part

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Speaker 4: was to prevent, for example, diplomats coming to this country

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Speaker 4: who are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States,

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Speaker 4: so their children would not be automatically US citizens. Neither

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Speaker 4: would enemy combatants. And remember the fourteenth a menmal was

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Speaker 4: adopted right after the Civil War, so enemy combatants who

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Speaker 4: came here and had children here, those children would not

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Speaker 4: be automatically US citizens. But it has a lot more

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Speaker 4: meaning now in terms of what's happened during the Biden administration,

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Speaker 4: the mass migration into this country, the mothers who are

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Speaker 4: not US citizens and fathers who are not US citizens,

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Speaker 4: And the question arises whether anyone born after February twenty fifth,

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, when President Trump entered this executive order,

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Speaker 4: is in fact a citizens. So it's an interesting case.

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Speaker 4: It's out of the state of New Hampshire. It's a

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Speaker 4: class action brought by essentially brought by the lawyers from

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Speaker 4: the ACLU, and the US Supreme Court has agreed to

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Speaker 4: take it up. So we're going to get an answer

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Speaker 4: to this question, one way or the other.

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Speaker 1: It's about time, if you ask me, and I hear

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Speaker 1: so many people argue on the other side of the

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Speaker 1: argument They say that this has been settled law for

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Speaker 1: decades now, maybe longer than that. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: long it goes back, but it goes back a long

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Speaker 1: way that this has been settled law, that the likelihood

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Speaker 1: that the Supreme Court is going to overturn law that

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Speaker 1: has been I guess it's been settled. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how how many times this has been argued in the

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Speaker 1: in the Supreme Court, but the likelihood that this is

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Speaker 1: going to be overturned is pretty slim and none. And

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Speaker 1: they always talk about how this issue has been settled,

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Speaker 1: and it's pretty cut and dry when you read it.

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Speaker 1: But I just think the interpretation of this has been

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Speaker 1: has been wrong for a long time.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think I think the Court liked the case.

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Speaker 4: There were two cases appealed to the Supreme Court, this

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Speaker 4: Barbara case Barbara versus Trump, which is the case they're

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Speaker 4: going to hear from New Hampshire, and there was Trump

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Speaker 4: versus Washington. But the Barbara case deals specifically with Trump's

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Speaker 4: executive order and February twenty fifth of this year, so

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Speaker 4: it would seem that there's an opportunity to decide the

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Speaker 4: law going forward. So what I think they will do

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Speaker 4: is take a look at if in fact, there are

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Speaker 4: five votes on the court, and that's yet to be seen.

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Speaker 4: If there are five votes on the court, that anything

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Speaker 4: that comes down will be prospective. In other words, after

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Speaker 4: February twenty fifth, the Trump Order is what I think.

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Speaker 4: But who knows, you know, if you try to lose

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Speaker 4: your mind trying to second second guess the US Supreme.

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Speaker 1: Court, especially with some of the some of the rulings

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Speaker 1: that have come out from this Supreme Court, so going

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Speaker 1: into this there's really I think it's a fool's errand

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Speaker 1: to try and look at this and predict which way

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court is going to fall on this.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I think that's right. You know, there's very little

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Speaker 4: law on this. There are a couple of cas you know,

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Speaker 4: this whole issue started with the horrendous decision from the

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Speaker 4: US Supreme Court in dred Scott, the famous dread Scott decision,

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Speaker 4: you know, enslave people being property, which was clearly a

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Speaker 4: horrendous decision. But then in eighteen ninety eight there was

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Speaker 4: a case called Arc Wong Kim Arc. And the eighteen

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Speaker 4: ninety eight case was two Chinese parents of Chinese nationalists

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Speaker 4: who Chinese national citizens who were in California and had

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Speaker 4: a baby, and the US Supreme Court, and there was

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Speaker 4: a split court. It was the vote was six to two,

726
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Speaker 4: but Uh Kim Kim Wang Kim arc was was decreed

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Speaker 4: to be a US citizen born of two foreign nationals

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Speaker 4: in California. The descent was from the Chief Justice of

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Speaker 4: the Supreme Court at that time, who said that that

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Speaker 4: he didn't think that Wang Kim RK could be a

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Speaker 4: US citizen because Wang Kim rk was not subject to

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Speaker 4: the jurisdiction of the United States when when her parents

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Speaker 4: were still loyal to the Emperor of Uh of China

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Speaker 4: and and I had not renounced their Chinese citizenship. So

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Speaker 4: it's it's funny how history repeats itself, you know, you

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Speaker 4: come forward to to to to these cases today. This

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Speaker 4: Barbara case one of the there are several people named

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Speaker 4: in several children named in the in the in the

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Speaker 4: Barbara case, it's it's going to be before the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 4: One of them is a Honduran couple. Neither the father.

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Speaker 4: The father was not a US citizen, the mother was

742
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Speaker 4: here illegally, and so the question becomes whether the mother

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Speaker 4: here illegally was subject to the jurisdiction of the United

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Speaker 4: States government. And that's the clause you read in the

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Speaker 4: very beginning. That's the part that's been left out. We've

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Speaker 4: taught this historically in the United States. We've taught everybody

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Speaker 4: to believe that anyone born here is automatically a citizen.

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Speaker 4: And to some extent that's that's true, but to some

749
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Speaker 4: extent it's not true. And so we're all going back

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Speaker 4: and revisiting history, and the Supreme Court is going to

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Speaker 4: have to do that too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know if our forefathers, the drafters of

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Speaker 1: the Constitution, foresaw the advent of tourism, tourism babies as

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Speaker 1: to create, or the notion of anchor babies and chain migration.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they foresaw that. So we've already

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Speaker 1: had or have been down that road where individuals come

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Speaker 1: to this country, they come in under whatever the circumstances are,

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Speaker 1: and for the sake of argument, we'll say they come

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Speaker 1: into the country illegally, they give birth to a baby

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Speaker 1: in this country, and therefore that baby is granted citizenship.

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Speaker 1: So we've got that that has been going on for

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Speaker 1: a long time now. How much will that weigh on

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Speaker 1: these arguments when the Supreme Court looks at that and

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Speaker 1: you say, how do you unring that bell? If you're

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Speaker 1: going to say any of these anchor babies who are

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Speaker 1: born are no longer citizens, but we've already granted citizenship

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Speaker 1: to x number of individuals who've been born under such circumstances.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's why, Dan. I think that's why,

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Speaker 4: at least just from my humble opinion, I think that's

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Speaker 4: why they took the Barbara case because Barbera can be

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Speaker 4: dealt with going forward from February of twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 4: as opposed to going back and looking at people born

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Speaker 4: sixty seventy eighty years ago and deciding whether they're citizens

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Speaker 4: or not. I think the Court has an opportunity here

775
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Speaker 4: if it's inclined to decide in Trump's favor on this issue,

776
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Speaker 4: I think it has an opportunity to rule on people

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Speaker 4: born after February of twenty twenty five that are affected

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Speaker 4: by his executive order. Because the challenge in this case

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Speaker 4: is to the executive order. It's the ACLU saying that

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Speaker 4: President Trump didn't have the authority to enter that order

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Speaker 4: and that it's a settled fact that anyone born here

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Speaker 4: is a citizen. I don't think it's that clear, but

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Speaker 4: it all depends on what these justices think that that

784
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Speaker 4: additional language that's in the Constitution that's never talked about

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Speaker 4: as any meaning or not. So it's going to be

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Speaker 4: an interesting split on the court. You know, you're going

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Speaker 4: to you have strict constructionists that are going to be

788
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Speaker 4: asked to uh, to decide whether whether and what it

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Speaker 4: what it is that that means, what is the jurisdiction

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Speaker 4: of the United States. So we know it, we know

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Speaker 4: it doesn't include diplomat's children, and we know it doesn't

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Speaker 4: include enemy combatants. So for example, these the people that

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Speaker 4: have you know, this this horrible thing that took place

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Speaker 4: in Washington, uh, you know, shoot, the shooting of the

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Speaker 4: National guardsman in Washington, And so you know, is the

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Speaker 4: person who did that an enemy combatant? And would his

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Speaker 4: children who were born here be United States citizens? They

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Speaker 4: may be?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, good, good point. All right, Tom King. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you jumping in on short notice today, and you

801
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Speaker 1: do it all the time, my friend, and such great insight,

802
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Speaker 1: and I appreciate all my honor. Well, I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: so much, and as always, I hope I can call

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Speaker 1: on you again in the future. But if we don't

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Speaker 1: talk before the end of the year, all the best

806
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Speaker 1: to you and your family through what Christmas and the

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Speaker 1: holidays and all the rest of it, and look forward

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Speaker 1: to a Grade twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: Merry Christmas and happy Holidays to you and you and

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Speaker 4: your listeners. And thanks for having me. It's my honor

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Speaker 4: to do so.

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Speaker 3: All.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Tom King. All the best to you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. So there you go. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've got to look at the entire Amendment and this

816
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Speaker 1: is going to be another opportunity for Katanji brack Brown

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Speaker 1: Jackson to distinguish herself a sona sotomayor darn it. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to ask him a question about if him and

819
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Speaker 1: his lawyer buddies when these Supreme Court cases take place,

820
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Speaker 1: if they sit around and listen to the audio and

821
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Speaker 1: have some fun with that when they hear some of

822
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Speaker 1: the ridiculous comments that are brought up by some of

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Speaker 1: these Supreme Court judges. But Hans von Spokowski of the

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Speaker 1: Heritage Foundation wrote a great piece on the fourteenth Amendment,

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Speaker 1: and he writes this what the citizens what? What's the

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Speaker 1: citizenship status of the children of illegal aliens? That question

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Speaker 1: is spurred quite a debate over the Fourteenth Amendment with

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Speaker 1: the news that several states, including Pennsylvania, Arizona, Oklahoma, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: South Carolina, may launch efforts to deny automatic citizenship to

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Speaker 1: such children. Critics claim anyone born in the United States

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Speaker 1: is automatically a US citizen, even if their parents are

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Speaker 1: here illegally, But that ignores the text and the legislative

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Speaker 1: history of the Fourteenth Amendment, which was ratified in eighteen

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Speaker 1: sixty eight to extend citizenship to freed slaves and their children.

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Speaker 1: The Fourteenth Amendment doesn't say all persons born in the

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Speaker 1: US are citizens. It doesn't say that. It says all

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Speaker 1: persons born or naturalized in the Union United States and

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Speaker 1: subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens. That second critical

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Speaker 1: conditional phrase is conveniently ignored or misinterpreted by advocates of

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Speaker 1: birthright citizenship. Critics erroneously believe that anyone president in the

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Speaker 1: United States has subjected himself or herself, or they or

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Speaker 1: themselves to the jurisdiction of the United States, which would

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Speaker 1: extend citizenship to the children of tourists, diplomats, and illegal

844
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Speaker 1: aliens alike. But that is not what the qualifying phrase means.

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Speaker 1: Its original meaning refers to the political allegiance of an

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Speaker 1: individual and the jurisdiction that a foreign government has over

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Speaker 1: that individual. The fact that a tourist or illegal alien

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Speaker 1: is subject to our laws or our courts if they

849
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Speaker 1: violate our law, does not place them within the political

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Speaker 1: jurisdiction of the United States, and that phrase was defined

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Speaker 1: by the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment. This amendment language

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Speaker 1: was derived from the eighteen sixty six Civil Rights Act,

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Speaker 1: which provided that all persons born in the United States

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Speaker 1: and not subject to any foreign power would be considered citizens.

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Speaker 1: Senator Lyman Trumbull, a key figure in the adoption of

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Speaker 1: the Fourteenth Amendment, said the subject of the jurisdiction of

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Speaker 1: the US included not owing allegiance to any other country.

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Speaker 1: American Indians and their children did not become citizens until

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Speaker 1: Congress passed the Indian Citizenship Act of nineteen twenty four.

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Speaker 1: There would have been no need to pass such legislation

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Speaker 1: if the Fourteenth Amendment extended citizenship to every person born

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Speaker 1: in America, no matter what the circumstance of their birth

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Speaker 1: and no matter who their parents are. Even in US

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Speaker 1: versus Walmkin arc. Which Tom King was just talking about,

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Speaker 1: the case most cited by birthright supporters due to its

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Speaker 1: overboard language, the court only held that a child born

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Speaker 1: of unlaw or of lawful permanent residence of a US citizen.

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Speaker 1: That is a far cry from saying that the child

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Speaker 1: born of individuals who are here illegally must be considered

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Speaker 1: a US citizen. So at least this show host is

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Speaker 1: going to be watching with great interest and paying attention

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Speaker 1: with great interest the arguments that the that will be

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Speaker 1: brought before the Supreme Court as it relates to the

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Speaker 1: Fourteenth Amendment and birthright citizenship. Drew Western, how do you

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Speaker 1: let's go head and open the phone lines once again,

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Speaker 1: five one, three, seven, four nine, seven hundred, the big

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Speaker 1: one if you want to get on board and opine

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Speaker 1: about any of this stuff we've been talking about today,

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Speaker 1: Dan Carroll till three this afternoon on seven hundred ww

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Speaker 1: it talked about the Minnesota stuff, and a New York

881
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Speaker 1: Post put an article out about this dude who's got

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Speaker 1: a long criminal history. His name is Ibrahim and he

883
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Speaker 1: got arrested by Ice on Friday. And it turns out

884
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Speaker 1: there's all kinds of pictures with this Ibrahim dude convicted

885
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Speaker 1: of asylum welfare fraud. He's been I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: Somali national busted for providing false information to police, driving

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Speaker 1: without a valid license, twelve traffic citations, and I guess

888
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Speaker 1: some other stuff too, and there's pictures. I mean, this

889
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: guy is very politically active. Got him with his armor

890
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Speaker 1: Elhan Omar there he is paling around with Tim Walls.

891
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: There he is. He's paling around with this Omar f

892
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Speaker 1: Teh who was the Minneapolis mayoral candidate, another Islamist. He lost,

893
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Speaker 1: But this guy, I mean, you've got all these Somali

894
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Speaker 1: nationals who are mixed up and in the Minnesota welfare scam,

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Speaker 1: mit welfare fraud. And Fox News reported that the whistleblowers

896
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Speaker 1: are saying that this is going to a billion dollars

897
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Speaker 1: isn't enough, That it's going to get as high as

898
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Speaker 1: eight billion dollars and maybe even higher before it's all

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Speaker 1: said and done. What an absolute mess. I got some

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Speaker 1: sound from Steven Miller on I'm gonna play that in

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But in the meantime, well, you got

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Speaker 1: phone calls to get to. So let's do that and

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Speaker 1: go to Hamilton and say hey to Chris Chris seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW than Susan and Covington. Good sir, what's going on? Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: I got you.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I wanted to share a story with you regarding.

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Speaker 3: The Birthright.

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Speaker 11: Back in the early two thousands, my wife and I

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Speaker 11: were one of many people who adopted a child from China.

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Speaker 3: Uh, there's a huge thing at that time. Well, one

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Speaker 3: of the.

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Speaker 11: Deals was we worked through an adoption agency was that

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Speaker 11: was out of Lexington, Kentucky even and they had an

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Speaker 11: employee in China. Husband wife worked as you know, translators

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Speaker 11: and stuff, and they had a child.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 11: Well at that time, you know, China had their one

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Speaker 11: child pologies, okay, and you actually had to get permission

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Speaker 11: from the government basically.

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Speaker 3: To have kids, okay, from them.

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Speaker 11: Well, if you do not have that permission, then there

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Speaker 11: was a mandatory mandatory abortion.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 11: Well, this husband and wife they got pregnant again, whether

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Speaker 11: it's on purpose by accident, don't know, but so what

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Speaker 11: they ended up since they had ties to the United

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Speaker 11: States with this adoption agency. The man that ran the

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Speaker 11: adoption agency. When when the lady was like three or

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Speaker 11: four months pregnant, they moved to the United States, gave birth,

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Speaker 11: gave birth to the child in the United States, so

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Speaker 11: that child got dual citizenship.

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Speaker 3: And you know, both of the both of the parents

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Speaker 3: were both Chinese.

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Speaker 11: If they would not have been able to do that,

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Speaker 11: that lady would have been arrested and she would have

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Speaker 11: been given a mandatory abortion.

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Speaker 1: Well that's that's in China. But did they did they

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Speaker 1: come here? Here's the thing. Did they come to the

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Speaker 1: country legally? Did they come to the country.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, he worked for he worked for a US company,

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Speaker 11: So yeah, I think they got they got trouble visa.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I don't know the details.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that I mean, that's the thing is if

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Speaker 1: if they're subject to the jurisdiction thereof then then that

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Speaker 1: could get citizenship. So well, you know, you know then

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Speaker 1: we we don't have time to go through all the

947
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Speaker 1: machinations of that. But I appreciate that phone call. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to coming to and say hey to Susan, Susan

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Speaker 1: seven hundred wl w HI.

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Speaker 12: There by Susan taking my call, I had I've been

951
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Speaker 12: thinking for the last couple of months, and this upcoming

952
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Speaker 12: trial with the Supreme Court has made me think even

953
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Speaker 12: stronger that maybe they should also consider turning half the

954
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Speaker 12: light on the stature of liberty and removing.

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Speaker 13: The mlastorous polemn give me your tired report.

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Speaker 1: Why would why would they? Why would they do that?

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Speaker 2: Nation?

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Speaker 1: Why would they do that? Susan?

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Speaker 13: Because we're no longer we welcoming the homeless to and

960
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Speaker 13: that's the purpose of this statue.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome immigrants, well, Susan, if in your phone is

962
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Speaker 1: making a lot of noise, but here in the United States,

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Speaker 1: we welcome, we welcome immigrants. We welcome people who come

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Speaker 1: into our country legally. We frowned, we frown on the

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Speaker 1: notion of people coming into this country illegally. Do you

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Speaker 1: understand that difference?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I understand.

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Speaker 1: Well then then how then see, but you use the

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Speaker 1: term immigrants and immigration and and and those terms get

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Speaker 1: conflated a lot of time, and it When we talk

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Speaker 1: about immigrants, we're talking about people who come into the

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Speaker 1: country in a legal way, in a legal fashion. When

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Speaker 1: we're talking about illegal immigrants, we're talking about people who

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Speaker 1: are breaking the law again into this country. Do you

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Speaker 1: understand that?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, that's got nothing, that's got nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with it, that's got nothing to do with the statue. Well,

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Speaker 1: in in some cases that may be true, but in

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Speaker 1: a lot of cases, they are coming here to live

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Speaker 1: off the welfare system, They're coming here to commit further crimes.

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Speaker 1: They're coming here for any number of nefarious reasons. Okay, okay, thanks, Susan.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the costs. There's no what's no difference.

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Speaker 13: There's no difference in who ICE is going after.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, Susan, you see you're mistaken about that.

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Speaker 1: There's a big difference in who I. ICE is not

987
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: going after people who are in the country legally in

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Speaker 1: a legal sentence. ICE is going after people who, in

989
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: the vast majority of cases, have already been found to

990
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Speaker 1: have committed crimes, who have already had their due process

991
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Speaker 1: and have already received orders to get the hell out

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Speaker 1: of the country. So, Susan, I don't know where you're

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Speaker 1: getting your news, but you need to upgrade where you're

994
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: getting your news, because you're saying a lot of things

995
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Speaker 1: that you hear in the news that aren't necessarily true.

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Speaker 1: Gary on a cell phone, Gary seven hundred WLW Hey

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Speaker 1: Dan Susan seems like a very nice person. She's just

998
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Speaker 1: mistaken and she's wrong. I mean, her information is not

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Speaker 1: completely correct.

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Speaker 14: Go ahead, are you familiar with the Chinese Exclusion Act

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Speaker 14: of eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Probably not? Probably not? Okay, thirty We don't need the

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Speaker 1: whole history, and make it quick.

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Speaker 14: The United States government passed the law saying specifically the

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Speaker 14: people from China, the poor coolies were banned from this

1006
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Speaker 14: country in eighteen eighty two Exclusion Act, and it went

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Speaker 14: to all the way to nineteen forty three when FBR

1008
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 14: realized that China was our ally in World War Two

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Speaker 14: and China these people were here fighting in our military,

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Speaker 14: and he decided at that time that US law should

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Speaker 14: be banned.

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Speaker 1: And my point.

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Speaker 14: Is that the United States government makes laws foreign against things.

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Speaker 14: We all know about wonkam Ark and how he was

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Speaker 14: given his citizenship.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, look we're not talking we're talking about

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Speaker 1: the fourteenth Amendment. An amendment is different than a law.

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Speaker 1: We on the same page there.

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Speaker 14: Well, I'm just pointing out we can make laws back

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Speaker 14: and forth constitutionally.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, Gary, I appreciate your insight on that.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Kevin in Cincinnati. Kevin seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just got a question.

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Speaker 15: If my ancestors, your ancestors are not from here, are

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Speaker 15: we illegal immigrants who?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 1: You were you and you were born in the United States. Yes,

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Speaker 1: your parents were most likely born in the United States.

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Speaker 15: Yes, yes, yes, But my ancestors are not from the

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Speaker 15: United States.

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Speaker 1: Well, neither of mine. But when they but they came here,

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Speaker 1: they immigrated. I don't know the exact time frame when

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Speaker 1: my ancestors immigrated to the United States, but they came

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Speaker 1: here from Ireland. They came here from Germany, and they

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Speaker 1: immigrated in a legal way into the United States. And

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Speaker 1: so the fourteenth Amendment, the fourteenth if it wasn't an amendment,

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Speaker 1: for God's sake, we're talking about we're talking about illegal

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Speaker 1: aliens who come into the United States and have babies.

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Speaker 1: Those babies are called anchor babies because if you're in

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Speaker 1: this country illegally, and the fourteenth Amendment has been misconstrued

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Speaker 1: for so long now that if you're in this country

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Speaker 1: illegally and you have a baby, then that baby gets citizenship. Well,

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01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: then that baby gets to stay here, and that baby

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01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: gets to stay here with their parents, and their parents

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Speaker 1: get to say, well, I need I need the baby's

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Speaker 1: sibling to be here, and then the sibling needs their

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Speaker 1: mom or dad, and the sibling needs another sibling, and

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Speaker 1: then the mom or dad who is staying, well, I

1049
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Speaker 1: need I need my mom to be here, I need

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Speaker 1: my dad to be here. That's called chain migration, and

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Speaker 1: that is what Trump is trying to stop. You know,

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Speaker 1: we can sit here all day and get into the

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Speaker 1: minutia of what's who's here illegally, who's here illegally, and

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Speaker 1: all the rest of it. It's pretty simple concept. If

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Speaker 1: you're in the country legally in a legal sense, we've

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Speaker 1: got no problem with that. Trump has no problem with that.

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Speaker 1: I have no problem with that. I think the vast

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Speaker 1: majority of the American people have no problem with that whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: You're doing things the right way. If you're in the

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Speaker 1: country illegally, that's where we got to draw the line.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a pretty basic concept. Let's go to Brian.

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Speaker 1: Then we got Terry and Morrow, Brian, Brian and Mason

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 16: Hey, Dan actually enjoying the conversation. But I will say

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Speaker 16: you made the comment before about the jurisdiction clause.

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Speaker 1: The jurisdiction, Yes, yeah.

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Speaker 16: Not being mentioned by liberal media. I actually heard on

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Speaker 16: CNN this week, So there is being given coverage to it. Okay,

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Speaker 16: on both sides, which is great to hear because we

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Speaker 16: want both sides to be able to present their opinions,

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Speaker 16: but do it factually, not what's made up facts?

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: Well, my point was is that those who want to

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Speaker 1: argue the other side of this conveniently leave that section

1075
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Speaker 1: out on a regular basis, that that section is overlooked

1076
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Speaker 1: in a convenient way to make their argument that the

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Speaker 1: fourteenth Amendment allows for birthright citizenship across the board, no

1078
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Speaker 1: questions that.

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Speaker 16: But I think we need.

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Speaker 3: To say both sides of the spectrum.

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Speaker 16: Are guilty of things like that, and that really needs

1082
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Speaker 16: to stall. We need to be presenting facts to people

1083
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Speaker 16: instead of trying to plan everything, and the country is

1084
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Speaker 16: getting more and more bent on slanting the facts than

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Speaker 16: actually presenting the fact and letting people have making foreign decisions.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know you heard my caller and Brian, thank

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Speaker 1: you very much for that phone call. Now you heard

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Speaker 1: my caller earlier, Susan, who was trying to tell me

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Speaker 1: that ICE is going after immigrants who are in the

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Speaker 1: country legally and illegally and that there's no differentiation. There's

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Speaker 1: no difference. Well, nothing could be further from the truth.

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Speaker 1: Let's go tomorrow and we'll say hey to Terry. Then

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Speaker 1: we got John and Norwood. He wants to talk about

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Speaker 1: the fourteenth Amendment. Terry seven hundred WLW okay, thanks.

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Speaker 17: For taking my call.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 17: I read meters for the gas and Electric company in

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Speaker 17: Cincinnati in ninety one, and I saw. I paid very

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Speaker 17: close attention, and I continued to see. Let's take Roselawn

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Speaker 17: when people moved out the Jewish neighborhood. They started moving

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Speaker 17: people and there'd be twelve fourteen people beds sleeping in

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Speaker 17: the basement, none of them, none of them spoke English.

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Speaker 17: But very quickly the I've got a book in my

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Speaker 17: hand right now, Sharia law, radical Islam's threat to the

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Speaker 17: US Constitution. Also, if you want to look up forty

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Speaker 17: five goals to take down America and the naked communists

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01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 17: number three, we're in a color revolution. It's Cloward and Piven.

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Speaker 17: When they opened the borders, they flood the nations, they

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Speaker 17: overwhelmed their welfare systems, and then they bring them down

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Speaker 17: and then they rebuild them. Yes, we are a country

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Speaker 17: of immigrants. I've got books that my customers would get

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Speaker 17: of me when they gave they got a handbook. There

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01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 17: was three of them, and they learned the Constitution, they

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Speaker 17: learned the Declaration of Independence. They assimilated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, assimilation, that's a big thing. And Terry, I got

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Speaker 1: to cut you off because I'm up against the clock.

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Speaker 1: We got a run, but stay tuned because I've got

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Speaker 1: a guest coming up at two thirty, Robert Spencer, and

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Speaker 1: we touch on those issues. So stick around for that.

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Speaker 1: It is one fifty two at seven hundred WLW LW

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Speaker 1: one hour for me left Dan Carroll till three this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Then Sterling comes Rocking and Rolling at three this afternoon,

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01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: so we'll all be listening to that together. Always great

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01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: to hear Sterling on there. I got to see Mike

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Speaker 1: Allen two before I started today. He was on his

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Speaker 1: way out as on my way in. So always great

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Speaker 1: to see Mike callend.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 1: On my social media, I've been seeing an increasing number

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Speaker 1: of individuals post about our former president Joseph Robin at Biden,

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01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: who I guess miraculous. So he has been cured of cancer.

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01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: I haven't really heard anything about this cancer diagnosis that

1133
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 1: he was announced right before he I believe it was

1134
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: right before he was getting ready to exit the office

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Speaker 1: of presidency in the United States. But a number of

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Speaker 1: people posting about Joe Biden how he sees fit, He's rested,

1137
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: he's ready, and they're suggesting that he maybe should make

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Speaker 1: another run at the presidency in twenty twenty eight. And

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Speaker 1: I think there's no better example of the fitness of

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Speaker 1: Joseph Freett Robin at Biden. Then he was at an

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Speaker 1: event a night or so ago, and it was an

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Speaker 1: LGBTQ event where he was speaking quite forcefully about the

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01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: greatness of this country, and it sounded a little something

1144
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: like this, could we hear cut number one? Please, we

1145
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: just have to get out.

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Speaker 11: As long as we keep the faith, someone hope and

1147
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 11: get back up and remember who in the hell we are.

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Speaker 5: We're the United States of Americana. That's who we are

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01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 5: and us and there's nothing I mean.

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01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: And what what what the United States?

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01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 5: What?

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01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: Let's let's hear let's hear that one more time, one

1153
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 1: more time, Drew. Let's let's hear. Let's hear Biden again.

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Speaker 1: The United States can tell me.

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Speaker 10: As far as we keep the faith, someone hope and

1156
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 10: get back up and remember who in the hell we are.

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Speaker 3: We're the United.

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Speaker 17: States of America.

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Speaker 5: That's who we are.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think based on that, Biden

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01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,759
Speaker 1: is obviously Look, he's obviously in much better shape than Trump.

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Speaker 1: Ready to go talking about the greatness of America.

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Speaker 6: I'll say this, please, oh God. Nothing would get me

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01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 6: great pleasure then to than to have Joe Biden back

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Speaker 6: on the back on the campaign trail. Oh material, think

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01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 6: about think about the ratings. I mean, we have non

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Speaker 6: stop material.

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Speaker 13: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Well, it was. It got to the point during the

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Speaker 1: last election where it was almost unfair because Biden was

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01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: putting out stuff like that on a daily basis, and

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Speaker 1: I had it was it was an embarrassment of riches

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01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 1: when it came to talking about the gaffs and the

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Speaker 1: flubs and the you know, the mispronunciations and all the

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Speaker 1: rest of it. On behalf of Biden.

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Speaker 6: I miss his uh you know, for a second there

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Speaker 6: it was kind of a combination. Not only could he

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Speaker 6: not speak, but he also kind of had that creepy,

1179
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Speaker 6: creepy whisper that I've missed.

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Speaker 1: You had a little bit of that going on there too.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, a little bit of that going on there.

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Speaker 6: So I mean, I'm I don't know which one I

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01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 6: miss more. I missed the guy, I really do. I

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Speaker 6: missed the guy. And you raise a great point, deep insight,

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01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 6: Dan Carroll on your part. You know when when when

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01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 6: when mister watched his face was meeting the fan, mister whatever.

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Speaker 6: I can't say, I don't want to get booted off

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01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 6: the air, but when it was hitting a fan there

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01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 6: at the end of his administration and his run for reelection,

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Speaker 6: you know, they announce suddenly that he and trust me,

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Speaker 6: I'm a cancer survivor. I have the utmost sympathy for

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Speaker 6: anyone going through cancer treatment. Okay, but you know they're like,

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01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 6: hey man, he's got stayed four cancer. You know that

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Speaker 6: we don't expect him the last one. You know, all

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01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 6: that came out right, and then plan well, I mean

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Speaker 6: I haven't heard. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 6: Now he's fit as a fiddle ready for You know,

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Speaker 6: there actually been people discussing him coming back on the game.

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Speaker 6: You know, we're gonna we're gonna resurrect Joe Biden, and

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Speaker 6: he's going to be a viable candidate. You can't have

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01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 6: it both ways here, So which one is it? Was

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01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 6: he sick, did he recover? Or was that yet another

1203
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 6: Biden lie? I don't know. I mean, God knows. I

1204
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 6: don't put anything past the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 1: Well, based on based on the fact that he's able

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01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 1: to get dressed, put on a winter coat, and go

1207
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: shopping at some very high end retail specialty boutiques, they

1208
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 1: claim his health is outstanding and much better than that

1209
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 6: Then then shame on them for potentially lying during the

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Speaker 6: last days of his campaign and or re election campaign

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Speaker 6: and or administration. Shame on them, because you know what,

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01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 6: Dan Carroll, there are a lot of people that are

1214
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Speaker 6: suffering every day. Cancer treatment takes a lot out of you,

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01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 6: and that's not something for just to use as an

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Speaker 6: excuse for your you know, because your polls might be lagging,

1217
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 6: you need some sympathy points. Shame on them, That's what

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01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 6: I really have to say. Shame. Is there no level

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01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 6: that a Democrat candidate and or party will not seek

1220
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 6: to seek to to to to try to barner votes.

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Speaker 6: I don't think there is. And and and if they

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Speaker 6: were maybe exaggerating his condition for the sake of sympathy points, well,

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01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 6: you know what that's that's absolutely beyond the floorable. I

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01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 6: don't even have a word for it. I thought I

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01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 6: I thought I'd had every word for the Democrats, But

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01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 6: I guess I really need.

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Speaker 1: To if you've got a constantly expand your vocabulary for that.

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01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: Adam Kinzinger is a reprehensible individual. And here's something that

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Speaker 1: he put on his social media feed. And I wanted

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01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: to run this by you and and and see, uh

1231
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: it gets your take on this. Adam Kinziger writes there

1232
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: will be a day soon where the name Trump is

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01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: similar to Benedict Arnold. When that happens, there will be

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01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 1: many Republicans who who will pretend they never really liked

1235
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: him and they weren't part of the American selloup. Don't

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01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 1: let them. They all enabled this. So does does this

1237
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: ring true to you? That we will be saying Trump's

1238
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 1: name in the in the the same breath as Benedict Arnold?

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01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 6: I can't see it, but let's be fair. I don't

1240
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 6: suffer from Trump derangement, Syndrame. I got to ask you,

1241
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 6: was Adam Kinsinger was kinsing or was he crying when

1242
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 6: he said that he's really good at crying. I did

1243
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 6: not was he was he, you know, bawling as he

1244
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 6: said that on the air though, Well, No, I think

1245
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 6: he was busy trying to to hang the the the

1246
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 6: false narrative of committing war crimes around the neck of

1247
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 6: Trump and Pete heeg seth.

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01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: I think he was busy with that, So this was

1249
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 1: just an aside, you know, liked reference.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure the TBS syndrome is so real and so pervasive. Listen,

1251
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 6: don't get me wrong. You and I have spoken often

1252
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 6: and we don't agree. Nobody would agree with everything someone does,

1253
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 6: and we don't agree with everything Trump does. However, the

1254
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:50,600
Speaker 6: flip side here, the difference is is that the Democrat

1255
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 6: and or liberal side disagrees with everything Trump does. I

1256
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 6: mean absolutely everything. The man cannot breathe correctly. He is working. Listen,

1257
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 6: like him or dislike him. He has a workload that

1258
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 6: is enviable with somebody half his age. I mean, the

1259
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 6: man works twelve hour days, constantly working. I saw where

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01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 6: he just received praise from an African leader for stopping

1261
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 6: the war in Africa that Joe Biden had no interest

1262
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 6: in stopping, had four years to do something. He went

1263
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 6: over and stopped a war in Africa, and the African

1264
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:28,520
Speaker 6: leader praised him and said he came and with solutions.

1265
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 6: He listened, he didn't, you know, he was open minded

1266
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 6: and he came with solutions. I don't know if you

1267
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 6: saw that or not. It was quite telling. And you know,

1268
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 6: this is the stuff the media, just the media will

1269
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 6: not report. I'm kind of to my wits end. I

1270
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 6: don't know where we go from here, but this NonStop,

1271
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 6: terminal Trump derangement syndrome is going to be the end

1272
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 6: of this country. It really is going to be the

1273
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 6: end of this country because we used to have when

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01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 6: you and I agree that the most rational Democrat in

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Speaker 6: the United States is.

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Speaker 1: Who John Fetterman? Ye who? And we did not see

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01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 1: that coming. So I'm gonna be honest about that. I

1278
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 1: didn't see that coming at all. But the guy's out there,

1279
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: he's making me. He's making more sense than anyone with

1280
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: a D after the name than I can think of

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01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: right now. The Somalia thing has been when I say Somalia,

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Speaker 1: and I mean that in reference to what's happening in Minneapolis,

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01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 1: Minnesota has been interesting. And the Stephen Miller, who was

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01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: who was a national treasure in my opinion, was asked

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01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 1: about this on the on on the Sean Hannity Show

1286
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: in the in the wake of the knowledge that this

1287
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,759
Speaker 1: scandal is likely to be in excess of eight billion dollars.

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01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: Now is what Fox News.

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Speaker 6: We were discussing it yesterday in our eyebrows were raised

1290
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 6: when it.

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Speaker 1: Was that one one billion.

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01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 6: Now it appears. Now it appears it's eight times.

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01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, eight billion dollars. And Stephen Miller was asked about

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01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 1: this on the Sean Hannity Show, and this is what

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01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 1: he had to say. Let's hear cut number two, Drew.

1296
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: Let's hear cut number two.

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Speaker 18: This scandal is going to rock the core of Minnesota

1298
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,440
Speaker 18: politics and American politics.

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Speaker 1: We are going to be able to show through whether

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Speaker 1: it be.

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Speaker 18: Wilful blindness, whether it be deliberately turning the other way,

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Speaker 18: or whether it be direct knowledge. We are going to

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Speaker 18: show how Democrat politicians, Democrat bureaucracies, Democrat political systems, and

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01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 18: the Somali refugee population ripped off the American people, stole

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01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 18: countless tax payer dollars, and engage in scams that boggle

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01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 18: the mind, Scams that we can scarcely even conceive of

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01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:47,879
Speaker 18: or imagine in their brazenness. This truly underscores the extent

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01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 18: to which the Democrat Party has used migration as a

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01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 18: weapon against the American people to gain political power at

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01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 18: the expense of American citizens, stealing their money, their votes,

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01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 18: stealing their sovereignty.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be.

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Speaker 18: Case in point for the argument that President Trump has

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01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 18: made about why we must stop mass th world migration

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01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 18: into this country. It is a tool the Democrat Party

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01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 18: has used to rob the American people blind.

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01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,600
Speaker 1: And so they're Steven Miller, the Andrew Pappis. There's no

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01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 1: one who spells it out the way he does. I mean,

1319
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 1: the guy's an absolute treasure the way he's able to

1320
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 1: bring clarity the issues like this. And so when you

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01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: look at what's happening with the Somalian population in Minnesota,

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01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: and then you combine that with the issue that's really

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01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: not all that sexy, but all this reapportionment and the

1324
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 1: redrawing of the congressional districts and the map and all

1325
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: that stuff. So my way of thinking, all this stuff

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01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 1: sort of goes hand in hand. It all comes together

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Speaker 1: because it's all about congressional seats. It's all about representation

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01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 1: in Congress. It's all about controlling that portion of our

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01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 1: lawmaking system, and it's all about the Democrats being in

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01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 1: charge and advancing their agenda for as far as the

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Speaker 1: I can see.

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Speaker 6: Well, let me ask you a question, Dan, what is

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01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 6: Elon who represents that district in Minnesota? What is Elon

1334
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 6: Omar's net worth?

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01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 1: I believe it's an excess of forty million dollars.

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Speaker 6: Now, well, it's a it's a big range. It's between

1337
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 6: six and thirty million.

1338
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 1: It's a lot of money.

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Speaker 6: And that was his May of twenty twenty five, so

1340
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 6: it's now the end of the year. It could have

1341
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 6: jumped up since then. It is. Do you know what

1342
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 6: her net worth was when she came into Congress?

1343
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 1: It's probably been close to zero.

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01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 6: It was a negative sixty thousand dollars.

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01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 1: Negative sixty thousand. It's a beautiful It's a beautiful thing,

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01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:39,600
Speaker 1: isn't it.

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01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 6: It makes you wonder given the number that we've just

1348
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 6: been quoted, eight billion dollars in fraud and waste, that

1349
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 6: is tied I believe to not only the Somali community there,

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01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 6: but now I've heard accusations. I believe it is that

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01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 6: the Attorney general in Minnesota that's tied up in this

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01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 6: now for campaign contributions. It's it's a high ranking Minnesota

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01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,799
Speaker 6: state official that is now on tape of saying something

1354
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 6: along the lines of it. He turned his eye to

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01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 6: something he expected to have contributions made, and those contributions

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01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 6: did take place. So I am not surprised when we

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01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 6: see that the home state of Jazz hands himself tim Uh.

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Speaker 1: I want.

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01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 6: I was about to say something else, so I caught myself.

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01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 1: I hear you've been driving by his house too, yelling

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01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 1: nasty words at him.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know what, I don't want to make him

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01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 6: cry any more than the gentleman has cried, because that's

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01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 6: the biggest thing, you know, God forbid. My point on

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01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 6: that is someone takes nothing about Tim Wallas and someone

1366
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 6: drive by and say a dirty, dirty word that he

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01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:53,600
Speaker 6: takes offense at, rather than what the Democrats do is

1368
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 6: label used labels on our candidates, that that instead of

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01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 6: words being hurtled at, then bull hurdled at them. So,

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01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,719
Speaker 6: you know what, he is not the victim of anything

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01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 6: other than his incompetence. And I have no I don't

1372
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:10,759
Speaker 6: feel the least bit sorry for whatever might be happening

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01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:12,600
Speaker 6: to Tim Walls up in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the news broke last night that the City of Cincinnati,

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01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 1: the city manager, wants to engage in a settlement with

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01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: the protesters who were here in Cincinnati, about five hundred

1377
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: or so protesters who were rioting, who were causing damage

1378
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 1: in the city of Cincinnati, and for their efforts, they

1379
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 1: got arrested. And now they've agreed to a settlement to

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01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: where these individuals are going to be paid a little

1381
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 1: over twelve thousand dollars each. The attorneys in this case

1382
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 1: are getting in excess of two million dollars. So what

1383
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:51,959
Speaker 1: message is the City of Cincinnati and Hamilton County sending

1384
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: to thugs, punks, rioters, people like that who would come

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01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:01,799
Speaker 1: into the city demonstrate go well beyond their First Amendment

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01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 1: rights and engage in criminal activity in the city of Cincinnati.

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01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 1: What message are we sending them through this settlement?

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01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,600
Speaker 6: Two words very easy, crime.

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01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 1: Pace, crime, pace, There you go now, and you know what, and.

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01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 6: I my heart bleeds. My heart bleeds for the poor

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01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 6: men and women of law enforcement that were as to

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01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 6: force the law, a curfew that was imposed by the

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01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 6: very city that is now seeking to compensate those criminals

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01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 6: for breaking the law.

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01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: A Democrat mayor, by the way, a Democrat mayor John Cranley,

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01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 1: who who who saw the writing on the wall that

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01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: this was going to call severe damage and gave our

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01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 1: police additional tools to use to shut these riots down.

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01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: And John Cranley, much to his credit, said that look,

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01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: these police officers did a great job. And he stands.

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01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 1: He says he you know, the they saved the city

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01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 1: from burning down. We didn't make national news back then

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01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 1: because our law enforcement shut it down. And now the

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01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 1: city manager says, all these people need to get some money.

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01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 1: They need about twelve thousand dollars.

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01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 6: Could you imagine being a law enforcement officer and putting

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01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 6: your life on the line every day when you go

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01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 6: out in the public and you're and you're patrolling, your

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01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 6: life is on the line. You're rest somebody that's breaking

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01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:22,959
Speaker 6: the law. You're saving businesses, people's property, people's people's personal lives.

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01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 6: And here you come. Here's the administration that that says

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01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 6: they support you, quote unquote comes along now and and

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01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 6: and and gives each person there twelve thousand, approximately twelve thousand,

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01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 6: five hundred dollars for for for breaking the law. I

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01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 6: am sickened by it. I haven't heard our mayor, who's

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01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 6: not particularly our financial wiz. From what I understand, I

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01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 6: have not heard our mayor comment on this, but I

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01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 6: just don't understand how how someone doesn't look at this

1419
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 6: and absolutely want to be sick to their summit.

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01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 1: It was funny. I passed the guy up who looked

1421
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 1: just like a tab Purvoll with his thumb out. He's

1422
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,799
Speaker 1: hitching a ride, so it's you know, it's his card.

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01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: His car got repossessed.

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01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 6: Well that's not Dan, you know that was that was

1425
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 6: simply a drafting error. For several months, this thing's happened. Yeah,

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01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 6: we're back in nineteen seventy where banks didn't have your

1427
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 6: cell phone and your email and app your phone for

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01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 6: to communicate to among us.

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01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 1: Hasn't been laid on a payment. You know, it can happen.

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01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, do you have to pay do

1431
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 6: you have to pay for your car to keep your car?

1432
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 6: I mean I don't, I don't know. I mean maybe

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01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 6: I've been doing it rolling all this year.

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01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 1: All right, Papas, we got to run as always. Man,

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01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 1: great to have you on and we'll be talking next time.

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01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 6: Dan, Carol, I appreciate you know. Next time we can

1437
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 6: talk about my new book.

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01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 1: That I just wrote. Yeah, what's that? What's what's the

1439
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 1: title of it.

1440
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 6: It's called Making Friends and Influencing People by Me?

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01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 1: Thank you, Papas. I'll see you buddy. There you go

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01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 1: the one and know the former Anderson Township trust the

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01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 1: Rys always great to have mine coming up. I've I've

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01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 1: got another guest, Robert Spencer, and he's got a great

1445
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 1: book out. We're going to talk about Islamism on the

1446
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: move in the United States and it's a little bit

1447
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 1: of a wake up call, so stick around for that

1448
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 1: two twenty five at the Home of the Red seven

1449
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: hundred WLW. He real call free this afternoon on this

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01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 1: beautiful Saturday, and great to welcome in my next guest,

1451
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 1: Robert Spencer of Jihati Watch. He is also the author

1452
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 1: of a brand new book and the book is entitled

1453
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 1: Holy Hell Islam's Abuse of Women and the Infidels who

1454
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: enable it. And Robert Spencer, welcome again to seven hundred WLW.

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01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:37,719
Speaker 1: How are you great to talk to again?

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01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 4: Dan?

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01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: Thank you. We talked a couple of weeks ago about

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01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: Zorahan Mandani. It actually was before the election, but now

1459
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 1: that Zorhan Mondani has been elected, in New York City?

1460
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: What what are New Yorkers in for? And let me

1461
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 1: ask you this, what did you make of the meeting

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01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 1: that Zorahan Mondani had with President Trump there in the

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01:24:58,160 --> 01:24:58,919
Speaker 1: Oval Office.

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01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:05,480
Speaker 19: Same to me that Trump was trying to make it

1465
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 19: impossible for mom Donnie to blame him when everything goes wrong,

1466
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 19: as it inevitably will. Mom Donnie is a Marxist. Although

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01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 19: he denies it, it's very clear from his record and

1468
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:21,799
Speaker 19: his statements, and he's going to try to implement various

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01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 19: socialist policies in New York which are going to likely

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01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 19: bankrupt the city, and then he'll blame Trump. And now,

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01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 19: with Trump on record being friendly and talking him up

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01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 19: and saying he's rooting for him, it's going to be

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01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 19: harder for Mom Donnie to displace the blame in that.

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01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,799
Speaker 3: And so I think that it could.

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01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 19: Have been it was very likely was a very canny

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01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 19: move on the part of the President to try to

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01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 19: take away one of Mam Donnie's primary strategies, which is

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01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 19: to execute his plans and then when they don't work,

1479
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 19: try to blame Trump for everything.

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01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 1: I looked at that, and I see it as Trump

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01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 1: really throwing a curveball to the base of Mondanni, because

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01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 1: much of his base is simply people who hate Trump.

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01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 1: And I think a large portion of his campaign, aside

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01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 1: from the free buses and the rent controls and the

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01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 1: free grocery stores, a large portion of his campaign were

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01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: supported by people who simply hate Trump and for no

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01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 1: other reason wanted to vote for Mondnni because of that.

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01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 1: And I think Mondanni needs Trump a lot more than

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01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: Trump needs him. And I think that is that this

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01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: was more of a positioning move for Trump because he

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01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,560
Speaker 1: knows in the future at some point Mondnnie's gonna have

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01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 1: to come knocking on his door exactly.

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01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 19: And see, this is the way that it worked out.

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01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 19: The historical precedent that we have for this is when

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01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 19: New York City went bankrupt back in the seventies and

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01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 19: they asked President Gerald Ford for a handout and to

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01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 19: bail them out, and he refused. And Ford was the

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01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 19: one got the blame, not the leaders of New York

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01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 19: City who had run it into the ground economically. And

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01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 19: now Trump has kind of checkmated Mamdani and made it

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01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 19: virtually impossible for him to make the same maneuver.

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01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 1: You and I have not spoken since it came to

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01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: light all the corruption and the fraud going on in

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01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 1: Minnesota as it relates to the Somalian community there, and

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01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:30,719
Speaker 1: the fraud that surrounds Feeding the Hungry program, another program

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01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 1: for autistic children, another program that is supposed to provide

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01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 1: housing for seniors and at risk individuals, and more than

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01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 1: it looks like more than a billion dollars has been

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01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 1: embezzled from these programs, and probably a lot more. Are

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01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 1: you surprised by any of this that so much has

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01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: gone on and so much of this is connected to

1513
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 1: this particular community and the way that this whole thing

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01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 1: has been rolled out.

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Speaker 19: I'll tell you, Dan, the only thing that surprises me

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Speaker 19: about it, is it anybody it'd surprised because I could

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01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 19: have told you this was coming for ever since there

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01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 19: were Somalis in Minneapolis. Really because the Koran, the Holy

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01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 19: Book of Islam, teaches that it's the responsibility of the

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01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 19: Infidels to pay for the Muslims, to pay taxes to

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01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 19: the Muslims and provide for their upkeep. Now that being

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01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 19: the case, if they're not doing that, there have been

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01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 19: any moms who have told Muslims you can steal from

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01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:34,799
Speaker 19: the Infidel and it's perfectly okay because their money belongs

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01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 19: to you anyway, and you're entitled to what they have,

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01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 19: and so we should expect communities of believing Muslims to

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01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 19: be stealing from us. It's surprising here, again, surprising that

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01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 19: anybody was surprised.

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Speaker 1: The New York Post wrote a piece about Ihan Omar

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01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 1: and how she is connected to so many of these

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01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 1: individuals who are either tan gently or directly connected to

1532
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 1: a lot of the fraud that's been going on there,

1533
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 1: and the Post is asking some serious questions about how

1534
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 1: much she knew about this. She had events at some

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Speaker 1: of these restaurants where these feeding the Kids program was

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Speaker 1: supposed to go on. She's got pictures with a lot

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Speaker 1: of the individuals, some of them who've already been convicted

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01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 1: in some of these fraud schemes. So do you have

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01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 1: any doubt at all that Ilhan Omar knew exactly what

1540
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 1: was going on with all this fraud and deception there?

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Speaker 19: None whatsoever. This was something that I expected, It's the

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01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 19: full story of it. Were known that she would be

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01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 19: implicated in it in a very high to a very

1544
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Speaker 19: high degree, maybe even helping the people do things so

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01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:49,640
Speaker 19: that they wouldn't get caught here. Again, this is not

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01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 19: really even something that she would have thought of as unethical.

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Speaker 19: It's just the natural order of things. The non Muslims

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01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,480
Speaker 19: are supposed to be paying money to the Muslims.

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Speaker 3: Oh, this is money, this is all.

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Speaker 19: This was something that the Somali community was completely entitled to,

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01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 19: you know.

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Speaker 1: So as I look at this, look at what happened

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota, I look at this individual from Afghanistan that

1554
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 1: was shouting a La wakbar as he shot the two

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01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:23,719
Speaker 1: members of the National Guard in DC, I keep thinking

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01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 1: of what condo Lee's the Rice talked about after she

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01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 1: did her evaluation and analysis of September eleventh, and she

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01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 1: said that our enemies were on a war footing and

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01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:38,639
Speaker 1: we are not. And I think that, and I think

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Speaker 1: we've we've sort of fallen back into that, at least

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Speaker 1: under the previous administration. But I listened to what Marco

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01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 1: Rubio said a day or so ago, and I want

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Speaker 1: to play that cut right now, because when I hear

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Speaker 1: Marco Rubio talk like this, it makes me think that

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Speaker 1: at least parts of our administration, the Trump administration, have

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Speaker 1: their eyes open to this. Drew, could we please hear

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Speaker 1: cut number four.

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Speaker 20: Ultimately, all radical Islamic movements in the world identify the

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Speaker 20: West writ large, but the United States in particular, as

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01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 20: the greatest evil on the earth. And every chance to

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01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 20: have the notion that somehow Radical Islam would be comfortable

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01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 20: with simply controlling some province in Iraq or Syria, it's

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01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 20: just not borne out by history. Radical Islam has shown

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01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 20: that their desire is not simply to occupy one part

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01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:29,679
Speaker 20: of the world and be happy with their own little caliphate.

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01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:33,759
Speaker 20: They want to expand. It is a revolutionary in its nature.

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01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,759
Speaker 20: It seeks to expand and control more territories and more people.

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01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 20: And Radical Islam has designs openly on the West, on

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01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:43,639
Speaker 20: the United States, on Europe. We've seen that progress there

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01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 20: as well, and they're prepared to conduct acts of terrorism

1581
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 20: in the case of Iran nation, state actions, assassinations, murderers,

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01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 20: you name it, whatever it takes for them to gain

1583
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:57,640
Speaker 20: their influence and ultimately their domination of different cultures and societies.

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Speaker 20: That's a clear and imminent threat to the world, to

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Speaker 20: the broader West, but especially to the United States, who

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01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 20: they identify as the chief chief source of evil on

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Speaker 20: the planet. The reason why they hate the Kingdom of

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Speaker 20: Saudi Arabia, the leadership of the UAE of Bahrain is

1589
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Speaker 20: because they've allowed the United States to partner with them.

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Speaker 3: That's why they hate them. They consider them infidels for it.

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Speaker 20: They hate Israel, but they also hate America, and they

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01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 20: hate anywhere in the world that we have influenced. They

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01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 20: seek to attack it, including here in the homeland. If

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01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 20: you look at the domestic terrorists that the attacks have

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01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 20: happened here domestically, the overwhelming majority of them have been

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Speaker 20: inspired by radical Islamic viewpoints, and that includes the shooting

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Speaker 20: in the Poults night club in Orlando, Florida. That includes

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Speaker 20: the Saudi Pilot in Pensacola, my home state, two attacks.

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Speaker 1: So, Robert Spencer, when you hear Marco Rubio talk like that,

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Speaker 1: I know when I hear him speak like that, it

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Speaker 1: tells me that at least part of this administration hares

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01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 1: their eyes open to this. And Marco Rubio, I think,

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01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 1: does a fantastic job, and he's able to lay it

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01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 1: out in plain language that just about anyone is able

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01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 1: to understand.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that was very good.

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Speaker 19: It is unusual and rare from a high level public

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01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:09,639
Speaker 19: official and so it's refreshing to hear just a couple things, though,

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01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:14,719
Speaker 19: if you don't mind, maybe I'm looking at the glass

1610
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 19: half full and half empty that is, instead of half full.

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01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 19: But it seems to me in the first place, it's

1612
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 19: not radical. It is mainstream, ordinary Islam that seeks conquest

1613
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 19: and domination of the infidels, and that needs to be

1614
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 19: recognized so that we don't keep on thinking that this

1615
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 19: is some aberration, but understand that it can just appear

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01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 19: anywhere where there might be Muslims. That's not to say

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01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 19: that every Muslim is a terrorist or a radical or

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01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 19: something like that, but that this is far more widespread

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01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:49,639
Speaker 19: than I think most people want to believe. And also

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01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 19: when he talks about Saudi Arabia and Cutter not being

1621
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 19: on this program, I think, unfortunately that's not the case.

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01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 19: They are very much still part of it. They are

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01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:05,440
Speaker 19: just pursuing their own short term pragmatic interests.

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Speaker 3: When those interests.

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Speaker 19: Change, when they shift, then it'll be clear once again

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01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,800
Speaker 19: that those are Ghati entities like the others.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: Going back to Mandani and the people that voted for him,

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01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 1: it's one thing to have young people like this who

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01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 1: really know nothing of socialism. They were failed by the

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01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:32,800
Speaker 1: educational system in this country to realize the failure that

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01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 1: comes along with socialism and how wherever it's been tried

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01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,720
Speaker 1: it has never worked. The other part of it is,

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01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 1: and this is what your book is about, Islam's abuse

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01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 1: of women and the infidels who enable it. I think

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01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 1: by and large, the women who voted for this guy

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01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:53,679
Speaker 1: have absolutely no clue of the way women are treated

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01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 1: within Islam. That's right, Dan.

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Speaker 19: I mean, consider the fact that Mandanni has said that

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01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 19: he's going to stop having police respond to domestic violence cases,

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01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 19: that he's going to send social workers. Now, if he

1642
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:10,439
Speaker 19: got some violent guy with a knife startning to kill

1643
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 19: his wife, a social worker is not going to help.

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01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 19: And it's just appalling that he would say this. But

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01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 19: coincidentally or not coincidentally, it coincides exactly with the Islamic

1646
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 19: Holy books that care on, which says that if you

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01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 19: have a woman from whom you fear disobedience, then beat them.

1648
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 19: And it's it's not a police matter, it's something that's

1649
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 19: completely justified. And so Mom, Donnie just happens to be

1650
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 19: endorsing a procedure that will aid and a bet that.

1651
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 1: Well well, we'll see how this is going to manifest

1652
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 1: itself over time. I think he takes office right after

1653
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 1: the beginning of the first of the year, so we'll

1654
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,840
Speaker 1: see what happens. And you've also got another piece up

1655
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:57,640
Speaker 1: at Front Page magazine and you right, I hate to

1656
01:35:57,640 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 1: say I told you so, but not that much. And

1657
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 1: you talk about recommention recommendations that you made back in

1658
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:08,160
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight that would have prevented us from

1659
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:10,840
Speaker 1: being in the situation that we find ourselves in. Now,

1660
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:13,680
Speaker 1: what what were some of those recommendations that you made

1661
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:14,799
Speaker 1: back in two thouandy.

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01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 19: One of them was stopping immigration from Muslim countries. Now,

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01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 19: this is something that I got a lot of heat

1664
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:24,919
Speaker 19: for and people were saying, oh, see this is racist

1665
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 19: and so on exactly, But it was never a racial

1666
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 19: thing to start with. It's about an ideology that is supremacist,

1667
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:40,720
Speaker 19: violent and expansionist and that people are bringing in. It's

1668
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 19: just actually what the president has just been talking about

1669
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 19: when he was speaking about how he was going to

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01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 19: end immigration from third world countries. Now that's a good start,

1671
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 19: but the fact is this is not even really a

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01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 19: third world problem.

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01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:57,639
Speaker 3: This is an Islamic problem.

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01:36:57,760 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 4: And the longer we ignore that.

1675
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 3: The more the problem is going to keep.

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01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 19: On growing and coming at us from.

1677
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:04,559
Speaker 3: Areas where we don't expect.

1678
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Speaker 19: So if the President were to say I'm going to

1679
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 19: end immigration from Muslim countries, he also would get a

1680
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 19: lot of heat for being a racist islamophobe. But he

1681
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 19: could actually do it if he wanted to, and he

1682
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 19: could base it on the teachings of Islam that call

1683
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 19: for violent conquest of unbelievers, and those things are not

1684
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 19: hard to find. So it's a good step that he's taking. Certainly,

1685
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 19: he will keep a lot of Jihat terrorists out of

1686
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:36,719
Speaker 19: the country, and that's also the good The thing about

1687
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 19: immigration is you know where nation of immigrants, and all

1688
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 19: of us have immigrant backgrounds if you go back far enough.

1689
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 19: And so a lot of people think it's a terrible

1690
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 19: Unamerican thing to restrict immigration, But there are national security

1691
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 19: issues involved. They're readily demonstrable, and I commend the President

1692
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 19: for taking notice of them.

1693
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Speaker 1: But I've heard so many people make the argument that

1694
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 1: that Islam is more than just a religion, it's also

1695
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 1: a political movement as well. And so when there's no

1696
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:09,760
Speaker 1: doubt about that, when when you when you combine those two.

1697
01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:14,880
Speaker 1: The political side of what Islam wants to bring to

1698
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 1: this country is certainly not compatible with our constitution, our

1699
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 1: way of life, our culture. And what is it going

1700
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 1: to take for people to finally recognize that and say, look,

1701
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 1: practicing your religion is one thing, but trying to change

1702
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:34,360
Speaker 1: the entire culture and the way that the United States

1703
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 1: of America works and what it was founded on is

1704
01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:41,080
Speaker 1: another thing. And we've got to draw the line somewhere. Absolutely,

1705
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more.

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01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 19: And this is what I've been saying for years, that

1707
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:47,959
Speaker 19: we have to understand that Islam has this political aspect,

1708
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 19: and that that aspect of Islam is completely at odds

1709
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 19: with the American Constitution, and so there's nothing wrong with

1710
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 19: our taking measures to protect ourselves from that. And this

1711
01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:05,559
Speaker 19: has been obscured all these years by these charges of

1712
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 19: Islamophobia and so on, and so here again I commend

1713
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 19: the President and the people around him for not being

1714
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:17,440
Speaker 19: afraid to grasp that metal and to do what's necessary

1715
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:20,559
Speaker 19: to protect the American people. I only hope that they

1716
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 19: don't get stopped again by leftist judges or somebody who say,

1717
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 19: you can't can't limit immigration and you have to let

1718
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 19: everybody in, no matter how dangerous they are, and so on.

1719
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you find time to write thirty two books?

1720
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:37,639
Speaker 3: I don't do anything else.

1721
01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 1: I'll do anything else. All right, well, Robert Spencer, always great.

1722
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:43,760
Speaker 1: I appreciate the time. I'll look forward to the next

1723
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:45,280
Speaker 1: time we get a chance to talk again. You may

1724
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 1: have four or five more books out by then, but

1725
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:50,760
Speaker 1: we will see that. All right, keep up the great work,

1726
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 1: and all the best to you, and take care of yourself,

1727
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:57,080
Speaker 1: you too. All right, there you go, Robert Spencer on

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW