1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: KF. I am six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp, 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: the House Whisper on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Good morning, 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: my friend, and welcome home. I am Dean Sharp, the 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: house Whisperer, custom home builder, custom home designer, and every 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: week your guide to better understanding that place where you live. 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. We are having a great time 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: this morning, lots of great calls. We've got more calls coming, 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: and I've got room on the callboard for you as well. 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: Eight three three two. Ask Dean, it's an all call 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: Saturday morning, A three three the numeral two. Ask Dean. 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: All right, I want to get back to the phones. 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: I've got Tony on hold. Let me make sure I 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: didn't cut her off. Tony, are you with me still? 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: I sure? 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: Am okay. So Tony had a question. She's not thrilled 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: about the the hood over her cook top that the 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: builder put in. It's noise and and so on. So 18 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: she's calling for advice and solutions, and I have one. 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: I have one. Actually, this is well, first of all, 20 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: nine times out of ten, I just want everybody to know, uh, 21 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: nine times out of ten, we for our clients do 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: not install hoods with localized fans because number one, as 23 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: I was saying before the break, the fans that are 24 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: built into you know, the hood itself are rarely strong enough. 25 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: And it's really it's really the the the effectiveness of 26 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: a fan over a cook top in a kitchen is 27 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: really about how much Eric can remove, not about how 28 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: fancy looking the bell or the hood itself is. I 29 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: don't care you know what kind of nice lighting it 30 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: has and all of that kind of stuff. At the 31 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: end of the day, we're talking about pulling out smoke 32 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: and odors out of the kitchen, and that requires the 33 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: movement of air. Plus those fans, not only are they 34 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: typically pretty low efficiency fans, but they're also noisy as heck, 35 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: and so a lot of people just avoid using them. 36 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 1: And Tony's kind of in that camp. So I got 37 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: a quick question for you, Tony. The hood itself, if 38 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: it was, if it was amazing in its performance, do 39 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: you have any issues with the appearance of the hood? 40 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: No, really, I mean it's hidden. It's hidden because this 41 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 2: is just the drop in that goes in under the 42 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: skin the bell. 43 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: All right, Okay, so it's an insert, it's a. 44 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: Liner, it's an insert. It's a liner. 45 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, great, that's great. Great, Okay. So here's the thing. 46 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: If you've got an attic or your you know, above 47 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: your kitchen or your kitchen cook top happens to be 48 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: on an exterior wall, then you have this option, and 49 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: you should at least explore it. It may not be 50 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: your cup of tea, but you should at least explore. 51 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: But this is how we typically, especially in nicer kitchens, 52 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: do this. We utilize whatever kind of a liner and 53 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: light system over the cook top you want, whatever you 54 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: think is sexy and great, whatever we feel is the 55 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: best look, that's all good. And if the hood that 56 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: we picked actually comes with a fan, we actually remove it. 57 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: We remove the fan, but we keep the controls. And 58 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: what we do is down the line up in the attic, 59 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: we will put an inline fan, an inline fan for 60 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: your cook Topay. So that means two things. Number one, 61 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: an inline fan, all you're paying for when you buy 62 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: them is the power of the fan. And so we 63 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: can change out that two or three hundred cfm fan 64 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: for something like an eight hundred or a thousand cfm fan, 65 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: something that will suck the burgers right off the griddle. Okay, 66 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: and well that's a little extreme, but the point is 67 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: very very powerful, very very efficient. And so not only 68 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: do we get this great power, but as you know, 69 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: we can reroute the the the actual ducting for the vent. 70 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: We can rent across the attic, We can send it 71 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: out the side of the house, even if it's coming 72 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: out of the roof relatively above where the kitchen is. 73 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: The point is we can divert that give it several 74 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: feet before it actually goes up. Because it's such a 75 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: powerful fan, it won't matter. And we're gonna move that fan. 76 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: And by the way, inline fans tend to be more 77 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: quiet to begin with, but we're gonna move that fan 78 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: several feet away from the cook top hood. Okay, so 79 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: when you turn it on, the primary thing you're gonna 80 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: hear is the rushing of air, not the sound of 81 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: the fan and the fan motor in the kitchen. 82 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: Well, so that would be awesome. 83 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: Yes, So take a look at And the point is 84 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: this can be retrofit into just about any hood setup, 85 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: so we don't have to go off and replace the 86 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: liner or replace the hood, and the same on off 87 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: medium high controls can end up controlling the right inline fan. 88 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: So take a look at online at inline blowers for 89 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: cook top hoods, and I think you'll find that it 90 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: opens up a world of possibilities for you. An electrician 91 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: can come out and or an HVAC you know, technician 92 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: can come out. Anybody who works with ducks or electricity 93 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: can come out and get that mounted and hooked up 94 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: to the old hoodliner. We've done it countless times and 95 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: vastly improved everybody's you know, appreciation of the hood in 96 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: their kitchen because it's all about getting that era. I'll 97 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: give you an example, a perfect example of what I'm 98 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: talking about, my own little kitchen. You know, we don't 99 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: have a big kitchen. We don't have a big house, 100 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: but our kitchen is nice and I've got a little 101 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: island in the center of our kitchen. And for a 102 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: couple of different reasons, One because I didn't want to 103 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: mess with a hood. Two, I didn't want the hood 104 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: hanging down from my eight foot ceiling and obscuring the 105 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: view of the room. I don't have a hood at all, 106 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: meaning I don't have a bell or any kind of 107 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: a you know, catch basin for the smoke. What we 108 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: do have is a flush ceiling mount fan that mounts 109 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: just in the ceiling, and of course it's got lights 110 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: on it, and it's got the filters for the grease trap. 111 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: But then up in the attic several feet away, I've 112 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: got an eight hundred cfm inline blower that blows out 113 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: when I turn on the hood and without any kind 114 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: of structure to catch smoke when I'm a serious steak 115 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: off of the griddle, that fan moves so much air 116 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: that I can keep my kitchen smoke free no matter 117 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: what kind of shenanigans I'm doing down on the cook 118 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: top on the island, without any kind of hood bell 119 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: at all. And that's why I so highly recommend looking 120 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: into it. How does that sound, Tony? 121 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: That is great to hear. I will look into that. 122 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: We work with our contractor and see what we can 123 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: do there. 124 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,679 Speaker 1: You go, all right, my friend, Thank you for the call, 125 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: and good luck. I think you're going to be very 126 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: very happy with that kind of a setup. And yes, 127 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: there are ducts also specialized ducks if you want to 128 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: get real fancy fancy, there are specialized ducks that also 129 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: or are designed to baffle and muffle sound as the 130 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: air moves through them as well, and it's clean air 131 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: because the filters have already captured the grease of the 132 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: grease trap. In restaurants and those kinds of place paces 133 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: that really rely on those devices. 134 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 135 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: You know, you'll find most of the time those fans 136 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: are mounted on the outside of the building. They're out, 137 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: they're mounted up on the roof, the rooftop. Those are 138 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: the where the actual fan is located. And this just 139 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: duct work down into the kitchen. And that's available for 140 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: residential as well. Okay, UH had a client in uh 141 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: came Rio. We mounted their vent fan on the outside 142 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: of their house way down the road and the duct 143 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: runs all the way out along the garage the inside 144 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: of the garage wall and goes outside and uh lots 145 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: of airflow, minimal sound, and they're super super happy with 146 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: all of that is available. Just look beyond the typical 147 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: vents that are hanging out in the ventile at the 148 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: home depot. There you go. There is there is life 149 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: beyond home depot. I promise you all right, y'all, when 150 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: we come back, more of your calls. It's an all 151 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: call Saturday morning with Dean Sharp. The house whispers, I 152 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: mean Sharp, the house whisper. Here to help you take 153 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: your home to the next level. Thanks for joining us 154 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: on the program. It's an all call Saturday morning, like 155 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: we do. Sun is coming up. It's a beautiful day 156 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: here in southern California. Don't mean to rub it in 157 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: your face if you're not here with us in southern California. 158 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: Just reminding you why. You know, you always hear things 159 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: about California. You know, most of the time if you 160 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: live elsewhere, you hear about people just leaving this place 161 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: as quickly as possible. And you know it is what 162 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: it is, but you should be reminded occasionally of why 163 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: those of us who are here are here. And I'll 164 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: tell you why it's going to be seventy five degrees 165 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: in sunny today. You know my roses. Tina's biggest concern 166 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: is that our rose garden is confused right now because 167 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: it's February and they're already starting to bust back out 168 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: again because they think it's springtime. Sorry, sorry, I don't 169 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: want to rub it in. I just want you to know, 170 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: wherever you are, I hope the weather is treating you well, 171 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: and I hope you've got a great plan for the day, 172 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: regardless whether it's freezing cold or sunny and warm, that 173 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: you've got plans to get out there and keep building 174 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: yourself a beautiful life. Here on the program today, it 175 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: isn't all calls Saturday morning, and I've got calls on 176 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: the board, So let us talk to I want to 177 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: talk to Ken. Hey, Ken, welcome home. 178 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: Yes, oh, thank you, Dan, thank you. My issue is 179 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: a driveway cracks. What is the best alternative compared to 180 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: just replacing the whole driveway. 181 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: Well, best alternative to replacing the whole driveway is live 182 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: with the cracks. I wish here this is one of 183 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: these areas where I am still waiting for like the product, 184 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: the miracle product to come along and so that I can, 185 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: you know, just comfort everybody who who ever calls or 186 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: asks me about this and say, guess what, that's no 187 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: problem anymore. But it is a problem driveways. Concrete driveways 188 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: they crack. You know, you've probably heard me say before. 189 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: In the industry, we have this little joke where we 190 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: say there's only two kinds of concrete in the world, 191 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: concrete with cracks, concrete that hasn't cracked yet, but it's gonna. 192 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: And the whole point, the whole point when we pour. 193 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: And by the way, those of you who are getting 194 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: new flatwork concrete done around your house anywhere, sidewalk, deck, patio, 195 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: new driveway, please please make sure that the crack controlled joints, 196 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: the lines, those score lines that are placed into concrete. 197 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: Make sure that you do not have crack control joints 198 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: any further apart than like six feet apart. I mean 199 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: in both directions. Okay, that's like the outside edge. I'd 200 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: rather you have them four feet apart, because the concrete's 201 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: gonna settle, it's gonna want to crack. And what we're 202 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: gonna do is we're gonna we're not gonna keep it 203 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: from cracking. We're gonna guide those cracks into those crack 204 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: control joints so you don't see them, and so they 205 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: crack nice and clean and straight and and so on. 206 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: And concrete driveways classically crack because the crack control joints 207 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: are insufficient or uh you know. And occasionally we'll get 208 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: a tree route growing under one in a bad location, 209 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: but generally it's because there aren't enough of these control joints. 210 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: So when a concrete driveway cracks, can uh you know, 211 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: we do want to address it in the sense that 212 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: it's good to uh clean out the crack, brush it, 213 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: back fill it with some uh you know flexible uh 214 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, concrete is elastameric compound, so that we don't 215 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: get unnecessary moisture or rain water going in and making 216 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: the crack worse or washing out the dirt underneath it, 217 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So patching it is important, but 218 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: that doesn't really help the esthetic much. There are products 219 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: out there that claim that to resurface concrete driveways and 220 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: they can't. I mean, quick Crete has got a product 221 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: that's you know, it's kind of hit and miss. I'll 222 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: just be honest with you. It's hit and miss because 223 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: since it's when you lay new concrete on top of 224 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: old concrete, you form what in the mason reindustry we 225 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: call a cold joint. The two don't really fuse well 226 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: together because they've already one's already cured and the other 227 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: one is now butting up to it. So we've had 228 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: some situations where I've seen people, you know, they've resurfaced 229 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: their concrete and it looks nice and lovely and it 230 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: actually lasts for them. It's kind of a shot in 231 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: the dark. And others where you know with a season 232 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: or two and now the patch or the resurfacing compound 233 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: starts to flake off or crack itself. So I can't 234 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: because I'm because I'm always completely honest with you, I 235 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: can't just tell you, yeah, just go get some resurfacing stuff. 236 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: You'll do it. It'll look great. It will look great. I 237 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: just can't tell you how long it's gonna look great 238 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: before it cracks again and or the resurfacing compound starts 239 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: flaking off. Now, there is one approach to an exterior driveway. 240 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: There are companies out there, and I would hire a 241 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: company to do this. I would not attempt to diy 242 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: this myself, but there are companies out there that will 243 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: do an epoxy coating on your cracked driveway. The first 244 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: they'll come in and repair all the cracks. They'll grind 245 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: down bad areas, They'll do some really really great prep 246 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: work over the entire they may even acid wash the 247 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: concrete the driveway just to get its clean and it's 248 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: porosity high. Epoxy grade. Epoxy is one of those products 249 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: that has the best chance of bonding and protecting and 250 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: esthetically resurfacing a driveway. But to be clear, we're not 251 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: gonna end up with that nuanced, multi textured concrete look anymore. 252 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: It's going to be a color one color boomp and 253 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: a flat color unless you know, you put the speckles 254 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: or anything like that. All I'm saying is it's gonna 255 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: it's gonna transform and very much change and alter the 256 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: look of the driveway. Now maybe if it's cracked enough, 257 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: that's worth it to you. And some epoxy companies can 258 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: kind of try and simulate concrete driveway or they just 259 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: abandoned it all together and say what color do you 260 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: want your driveway? Let's just go for a different look. 261 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: And I can appreciate that too. I can appreciate that too, 262 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: But but it's it's like when people, if I can 263 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: kind of equate it to I think we take crete 264 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: for granted, we think, well, it's just gray. Well it's 265 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: not just gray. There's actually like one hundred different colors 266 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: in the concrete of all that that particulated aggregate that 267 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: makes it, you know, have a nuanced kind of you 268 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: know look to it, and if you were to just 269 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: paint over it with a color, you're like, oh wow, 270 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: that's just gray now, and it's kind of loud and 271 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: flat and more aggressive aesthetically than we thought it was 272 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: going to be. So my point is, can patch the 273 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: cracks and do your best with them, But as far 274 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: as resurfacing is concerned, it's a it's a it's a 275 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: tough road because patching the cracks, blending that the patchwork 276 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: in not going to really happen. Resurfacing tit and miss epoxy. 277 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: It's going to change the color of the concrete. I'm sorry, 278 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm so full of happy news. 279 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 3: That good advice. I'm looking at the epoxy. And my 280 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: other quick question, Dean, is on that vinyl flooring, the 281 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 3: wood simulated vinyl flooring. We have real hardwood downstairs on 282 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 3: the landing, living room, dining room looks. It's just beautiful. 283 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 3: It's been in the house for years, and of course 284 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 3: it'd be so expensive to do that again. But what 285 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 3: we want to do is we want to do the 286 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: upstairs hallway and then the stairs themselves. But how can 287 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 3: we do the stairs and make them look good but 288 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 3: be safe? 289 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: A great question. Hey, we're up against the break. Let 290 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: me answer that on the other side. So you hang tight, Ken, 291 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about how you do that on stairs 292 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: and keep yourself from sliding downstairs and breaking your neck. 293 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: You are Home with Dean Sharp, the House Whisper. You're 294 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from KFI 295 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: Am sixty. Dean Sharp the House Whisper here to help 296 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: you transform your ordinary house into an extraordinary home. Welcome 297 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: to the program. It's an all call Saturday morning. I've 298 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: got Ken on the line. Ken had cracks in his driveway. 299 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: We kind of I gave him the bad news on 300 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: that one, but then he threw the hardwood floor question 301 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: at me. Ken's thinking about are do you already have 302 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: a luxury vinyl upstairs? Are you thinking about putting it 303 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: in upstairs? 304 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 3: We're thinking about putting it in upstairs. 305 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: And then you're wondering if we can, if you can 306 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: run it down the staircase itself. Let me ask you yes, 307 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: because that's a nuanced answer. Let me ask you what's 308 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: going on with the stairs right now? Carpet carpet, and 309 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,239 Speaker 1: we got carpet upstairs, and we're and and. 310 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 3: The I want to leave the bedrooms carpeted, and but 311 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 3: changed the hallway and the landing to this wood vinyl 312 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 3: product and then run it down the staircase. The staircase 313 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 3: as well. 314 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 1: Got you, Got you? Okay, So the answer here is 315 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: a qualified sure, you can run it down. But this 316 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: is all about and this is where as a as 317 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: a as a consumer, you just need to do your 318 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 1: due diligence. Okay. There are all sorts of luxury vinyl 319 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: products out there that have transition pieces and nosings and 320 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: and you know trim pieces with them that that come 321 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: along with them that I would not touch if you 322 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: paid me to put it in for free, because they're 323 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: they're cheap, they wear out quickly, they sit up above 324 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: the level of the actual vinyl itself and trap it 325 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: in place. Not happy with those at all, But I 326 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: am happy to tell you that there are some vinyl 327 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: products out there that have really durable, actually exact matching 328 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: stare nosing trims that come with them, and also are 329 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: the kind of surface that is heavily textured enough to 330 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 1: have a very low slip coefficient so that you're not 331 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: going to be just slipping and sliding on your way down. 332 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: You shouldn't go downstairs ever in socks. I actually pulled 333 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: a shoulder ligament doing that at a cabin a few 334 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: years back. Whether you've got carpeted stairs or hard surface stairs. 335 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: But the point is, yes, there are, but it's a 336 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 1: question of you finding the right product that can handle it. 337 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: The first thing you're looking for, ken is a hard 338 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: a luxury vinyl that not only floats normally upstairs where 339 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna lay it down, does it's all it's floating routine, 340 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: but also can be glued okay, because we don't float 341 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: the luxury vinyl on stairs on stair treads. We want 342 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: to glue it down, and there are products that do 343 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: just just that. Do both those are my favorite ones 344 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: because by the way, you're run it upstairs in the hallway, 345 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: and if you ever decide, you know what, maybe I'm 346 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: gonna run that luxury vinyl into the bathroom through the 347 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: hallway and right into the hallway bathroom, you can do 348 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: that just as easily and beautifully with that as well. 349 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: But where you run into a problem is when it 350 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: runs up against the shower dam or the tub and 351 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: you can't, you know, put a piece of molding down 352 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: to trap it there up against the tub or the 353 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: shower dam, and that's when the flooring that can be 354 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: glued down, that last strip or so gets glued up 355 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: against the tub or the shower dam, and the same 356 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: kind of thing is true when we come down the stairs. 357 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: We glue those down onto the stairs, so they never move, 358 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: they never slip. And it tends to be those higher 359 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: end products. And I say higher end because now we're 360 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: up in the wopping. You know, five dollars a square 361 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: foot luxury final market still very very inexpensive compared to hardwood. 362 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: But it's the higher end products that number one can 363 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: be glued down, Number two have more texturized surfaces to 364 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: them so that they're less slippery, and number three come 365 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: come with the best trim components, especially one. So you 366 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: want to look for one that advertises in their in 367 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: their material that look look at us putting them on 368 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: the stairs. 369 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: Uh. 370 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: And again it should be seamless transition. It should be 371 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: look smooth as if you just had a solid stair 372 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: tread plank put on, not a stair nosing that raises 373 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: up above the plank and and creates a you know, 374 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: a weird little step. There they're out there, and so 375 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: it's all about uh, you know, I think shaw Shaw 376 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: makes some their their higher end materials do that, but 377 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: they're are There are a number of them. I mean, 378 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: right now, the market is full of luxury vinyl planks. 379 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: So go to a reputable flooring place. You can find 380 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: a place like you can go to floor and decor 381 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: or your local small kind of boutique flooring place. Look 382 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: around and specifically ask, listen, here's my thing. I need 383 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: a plank that will glue down. And I need a 384 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: plank that's got excellent I mean excellent seamless stare nosing. 385 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 1: They'll they'll point you in the right direction. 386 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 3: Boyd, your real asset to your listeners. We all appreciate you. 387 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: Oh, Ken, that's so kind of you. Thanks, Bud, I 388 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: really appreciate that. And uh, you know, worst case scenario too. 389 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: And some people say, well, you could put some traction 390 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: tape on. I don't really like putting traction tape on stairways, 391 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: because you know what, I'm a designer. I don't want 392 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: that stuff looking at it. But I would rather by 393 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: the way, if it came down to it, if the if, 394 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: the if the luxury vinyl that you picked for the 395 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 1: upstairs you're just absolutely in love with it and you're 396 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: concerned that it's a little too slippery, then go ahead 397 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: run it down the stairs. Like you would and then 398 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: get a carpet runner and have a carpet runner run 399 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: down the center that's got a good traction to it. 400 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: But a carpet runner that you can replace when it 401 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: wears out, you can pull it out and replace it. 402 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: You know, we just did this for a client in 403 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: Calabasas beautiful staircase, and I wanted good traction and another 404 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: esthetic layer and so, and I'm talking about the carpet 405 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: runners that are self board, not the ones that you 406 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: staple in place, not the fake ones, but an actual 407 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: carpet runner that's held in place with those you know, 408 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: brass or bronze rods, and so that you can take 409 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: those rods off, replace the runner when it wears out, 410 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: Boom boom, switch it out, protect the stairs, protect yourself, 411 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: have better grip going up and downstairs. Carpet runners are always, always, 412 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: if you do them right, if you use an authentic 413 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: carpet runner, they are always a an esthetically acceptable way 414 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: and often a beautiful way of setting up a set 415 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: of stairs. So, Ken, really good question, Thanks for the call. 416 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: Appreciate that you appreciate the show. We have got one 417 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: more segment of the show coming up and we've got 418 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: calls to fill it, so go know where you are home. 419 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: Dean Sharp, the house Whisperer, Dean Sharp, the house Whisperer, 420 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: here to remind you every home deserves great design, including yours, 421 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: because you live there. And what's all about you, my friend? 422 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: And it is an all call Saturday morning, which means 423 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: it's all about you. You are the star of our 424 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: show today. And we've got some calls on the board. 425 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: I've got a few minutes to tackle another topic. Who 426 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: are we gonna pick? Let me just throw the dart here. 427 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: It's gonna be Cindy. Hey, Cindy, Welcome home, Cindy. Are 428 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: you with me? I guess Cindy got preoccupied. Yes I can. 429 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 4: Okay, Sorry, I'm driving, so I'm supposed to do that. 430 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 4: But I have a question pertaining to flooring also, but 431 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 4: it would be for outdoor, like I'm building a like 432 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 4: a deck, and I have done some research on timberwood 433 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 4: on tracks, and I'm basically very confused. And I was 434 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 4: also considering, you know, I was out there talking to 435 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 4: the rep on the flooring, the different lines, the colors, 436 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 4: you know, like I've heard that the darker the flooring, 437 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 4: the more you can kind of see dirt, and you know, 438 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 4: and I live in the Pitloma area in San Diego. 439 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 4: We get a lot of water due you know, in 440 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 4: the morning. Yeah, what do I consider when I'm making 441 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 4: that decision? Please? 442 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: Okay, So when you when you say you're confused, are 443 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: you confused about just the multiplicity of products out there or. 444 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 3: Yes? 445 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 4: And colors? 446 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: How big is the deck? 447 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: It's not. 448 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 4: It's not huge. I have a small house. It's probably 449 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 4: gonna be around say, fourteen by fifteen. 450 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. Have you talked to anybody about actual wood 451 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: as opposed to, uh, just the composite decking products. 452 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 4: No, I guess because I you know, I just feel like, 453 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 4: would you know, there's so much upkeep and painting it 454 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 4: down the line, dry rot, termites and all that. But 455 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 4: I mean, I would appreciate your feedback. 456 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So so I'll give you the rundown best I 457 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: can real quick. Number one. You know, I don't fault 458 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: anybody for using a composite material on their deck. It's 459 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: the very popular thing to do these days. And most 460 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: composite decking companies, you know, they promote the fact that, hey, 461 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: this thing will never need anything because you know, it's 462 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: not real. It's it's it's a synthetic version of whatever, 463 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: whether it is a composite of resins and sawdust and PVC, 464 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: or whether it's all PVC vinyl, or you know, whatever 465 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: the case may be. I'm going to be one hundred 466 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: percent completely honest. I've said this many many times in 467 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: that is I try and avoid that stuff as much 468 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: as I can because I just don't like the look, 469 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, and I know there are some great products 470 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: out there that do their best, but at the end 471 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: of the day, it looks like plastic to me. It 472 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: feels like plastic to me. And yeah, it'll hold up 473 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: just fine, uh, but it's just not my cup of tea. 474 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: There is one one synthetic material out there that is 475 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: actually primarily made out of nonsynthetic materials. It's it is 476 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: acre acre, as in like an acre of land acre 477 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: and it's made by modern mill and it is eighty 478 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: percent compressed rice hulls. And because of that, and then 479 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, PVC mixed in as a binder, and because 480 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: of that, uh, it it has a wood look. It 481 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: has a wood feel, and it's as impervious to everything 482 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: is everything else out on the market. But it's all in. 483 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: It's the material is through and through. It can be 484 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: stained and or painted any color you want, and so 485 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: that's something that you can either order it pre stained 486 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: or you can order it raw and have it painted 487 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: any color that you want. And it would be a 488 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: medium wood color. Medium wood, real dark wood. You're right, 489 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: shows all the stuff, real light shows all the stuff. 490 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: Something in the middle browns or you know, the median color. 491 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: That's the thing that's going to hide most of the 492 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: dust and the and the and the dirt and so on. 493 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: I really like it. In fact, I've got my outdoor 494 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: dining deck is made out of an acre by Modern 495 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: Mill because it's the only composite material out there that 496 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: I've ever given the thumbs up on. Other than that, 497 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: I just don't want you, and I don't want to 498 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: force a tropical hardwood on you. But I don't want 499 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: you to make your decision about your deck ever, ever 500 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: before you've educated yourself across the entire board, because in 501 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: my opinion, the most gorgeous decking material on planet Earth 502 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: when it comes to wood, is an epay or a 503 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,479 Speaker 1: teak deck. And yes, they are a little bit more 504 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: expensive material but the questions that you the issues that 505 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,239 Speaker 1: you raised about moisture and upkeep and dry rot and 506 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: termites non existent. This stuff is called iron wood for 507 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: a reason. You throw a piece of epay or teak 508 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: in the pool, it will sink to the bottom. Termites 509 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: cannot eat it. Epay is the material that the Coney 510 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: Island boardwalk is made out of. They built it there 511 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: in nineteen twenty something and just started replacing planks, you know, 512 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: about ten years ago. So yeah, we're not worried about 513 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: it holding up. You can let it gray out and 514 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: do nothing to a tropical hardwood deck. It's just going 515 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: to turn gray. It's not going to deteriorate. Or if 516 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: you want to keep the color then you know, you 517 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: give it a reoiling every two or three years to 518 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,719 Speaker 1: keep the color in place. But that's it. It's not repainting, 519 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: it's not resurfacing or restanding. So all in all, Cindy, 520 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: I just want you to explore that option. You don't 521 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: have a large deck, so maybe it's in your budget 522 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: to do it all the way to the the you know, 523 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: the classiest possible. And yes, you can buy sustainably farmed 524 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: epay antique These days. You don't. We're not cutting down 525 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: rainforests in order to achieve this decking material. Other than that, 526 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: I love Acre from Modern Mill. Not a sponsor of 527 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: the show, just a fan. Uh, take a look at 528 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: that as well. And those are my best recommendations for you. 529 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: All right, everybody, thanks for joining us on the program today, 530 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: Big show. Tomorrow, we've got design advice for you. We're 531 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: gonna do another installment of how to Design your Home 532 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: like a House Whisper. 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