1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Is Tony Pike's Friday Football Frenzy show, brought to you 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: in part five fellow Windows and door making life writer 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: Pelean ow Hey. Later Skyline Chilly Feeling Good. It's Skyline time. 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Encore Technologies. Visit OnCore dot Tech, Hunts an Oil fielding 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: champions on and off the field game, Dame mant Health, 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: Start your best life today, and by the Creation Museum. 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: It's more than a museum. Visit Creation Museum dot org 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: today on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: All right, here we go. It's our number two. You 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: know what that means on a Friday afternoon. Charlie Goldsmith 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: joins us to kick this second hour off. He's standing 13 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: by right now as we go to Charlie. Hey, Charlie, 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 2: what's up? 15 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: How're you doing great? How are you? 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: Charlie? Here's what I need from you. Give me some positivity. 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: Give me the most positive story coming out from the 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: Bengals into the bye week that you have. 19 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 3: I was ready to go full you know Bearcats previews 20 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 3: for tonight. If you're looking for some positivity. 21 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 2: What do you know about Georgia State? 22 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 3: A hunter was there? Back up? A million years ago. 23 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 3: I remember that I used to be good at knowing 24 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: mid majors. I'd say around twenty eighteen I lost that skill. 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 2: Okay, do you know Georgia State's mascot, nah Panthers? Very good? Wow, 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: very good, Charlie, you're one and oh the game just 27 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: doesn't leave you. 28 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 4: You know. 29 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 3: I was ready to say no, and then Panthers came 30 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 3: out of nowhere. 31 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: Man, you're one and O get yourself to two and oh, 32 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 2: give me something positive for the Bengals. 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: Uh, this Joe Flacco is playing at a top eight, 34 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: top ten quarterback level. It's the most married the run 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: in the past game I've ever been. They've unlocked different 36 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: ways to make the most out of Chase Brown, p 37 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: Ryan when he's healthy. I'm still a believer and andre 38 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: josavaj and that paid off against the Jets. The tight 39 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: end room is not at all what they expected heading 40 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 3: into the year, and they're still getting production out of that. 41 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: The rookie guards are playing okay, But I'm not gonna 42 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: lie to you, man. I just watched a bunch of 43 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: Shamar Stewart tape and and that kind of sucked away 44 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: any positivity I could. I could muster for more than. 45 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: A minute, Charlie, in all honesty, if they find a 46 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: way with how bad the defense is to just win 47 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: the last two weeks. Is Joe Flacco the talk of 48 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: the NFL right now? 49 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: I just keep going back to the fact that the 50 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: Colts benched him for Anthony Richardson last year. You know, 51 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: they benched Richardson for Flacco and then bench Flacco again 52 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 3: for Richardson. That's how low things were for Flacco. I mean, 53 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 3: the Scott can just play, he would be the talk 54 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: of the NFL. He's making or he's completing real passes. 55 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: It's not just you know, dinks and dunks like no offense. 56 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: A lot of what Aaron Rodgers has been doing in Pittsburgh. 57 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 3: He's playing real high level quarterbacks for a guy who 58 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 3: I believe, outside of that run in Cleveland, had won 59 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: like two games since twenty nineteen, outside of like the 60 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: four he won in Cleveland. And he's proven that he's 61 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: a guy who probably should have been getting more of 62 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: an opportunity all along. 63 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 5: You mentioned Shamar Stewart and how difficult maybe it's been 64 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 5: to watch that tape. Why hasn't it worked? What have 65 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 5: we learned if anything about why it hasn't worked for Schamar. 66 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 3: Awareness play recognition, he ends up on the ground a lot. 67 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: Rush lanes wore a big thing as I went through 68 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: that tape, like trying too much to make a play 69 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: and having poor technique doing so, and letting Caleb Williams 70 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: or even Aaron Rodgers sneak out the back door on 71 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: a scramble. Aside from the Bears game, he's kind of 72 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: quietly been getting benched down the stretch recently, which has 73 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: been very concerning. The mistackles have been a problem that 74 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: goes back to techniques. It's all of the worst case 75 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: scenario stuff for when you draft a project who then 76 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: misses a ton of practice and then misses more time 77 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: during the regular season due to an injury, if you 78 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: could dream up a worst case scenario of what that 79 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: would translate into, That's what I saw going through Samar's 80 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: tape this morning. 81 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: A week for a bye is a week to self 82 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: scout and really assess where you are as a team. 83 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 2: The defensive side of the ball. We know it's been terrible. 84 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 2: Same question that Austin Poe's around Tamar Stewart. Have you 85 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: been able to watch much Demetrius Knight and Barrett Carter 86 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: and similar question what's went wrong there? 87 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: I just keep going back to misstackles. I use the 88 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 3: word hyper a lot when I look at them and 89 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: their production and their performance as well. Like the Jets 90 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: kind of seemed to be egging the Bengals on with 91 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 3: all the pre snap motions that they were using. They 92 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 3: seem to create a lot of pre snap confusion. And 93 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 3: then also they found some productivity out of the same 94 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: side tosses and outside runs where they forced the linebackers 95 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: to kind of get into that edge area, and of 96 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: course that works. And the most concerning part is how 97 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 3: the Bears then just took the game plans that really 98 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 3: the Jets in the Steelers did. They really just took 99 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: those concepts and quadrupled down on them, and the Bengals, 100 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: you know, failed to adjust over the course of the week. 101 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 3: The league makes you pay when you show you're susceptible 102 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: to something. And then Ben Jonson also added all these 103 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: trick plays knowing that the linebackers were so susceptible to 104 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 3: the eye candy, and they just kept taking the bait. 105 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: They keep taking the bait, and there's a lot of 106 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 3: work that needs to be done. 107 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: There is there any paths that they can improve on 108 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: any of that in the second half of the season. 109 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: Is there anything you've seen that leads you to believe 110 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: that it could get better? 111 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: Defensively, I went through Barrett Carter's so I like the 112 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: optimism idea and the tone and so I haven't done 113 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: this for Night yet. I did go through Barret carter 114 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 3: his tape looking for positive plays, like, all right, what's 115 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: their doing well right now? And there are a couple 116 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: of times where he is right shooting through the gap. 117 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: He's been a good delayed blitz. He's not finishing enough plays, 118 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 3: but his ability to just get from point A to 119 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: point B and his range is something to build on. 120 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 3: And then Night we really more saw it during the 121 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: first half of the year or the first quarter of 122 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: the season, just his plays and his instincts when he 123 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: kind of gets targeted and coverage and his ability to 124 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,239 Speaker 3: make plays on the ball for an outside linebacker, that's something. 125 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 3: But both have just been bad for the last couple 126 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 3: of weeks, and there's so much coaching and development that 127 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 3: needs to be done during the second half of the season. 128 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: What does the offense need to watch out for Charlie. 129 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: It's hard in the NFL to put up forty points 130 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 2: a game, and you think at some point they're going 131 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: to slow down a little bit. What could aid in 132 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: the offense hitting a roadblock along the way outside of 133 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 2: just playing some really good competition coming up? Is there 134 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: anything you're watching for on offense that would allow them 135 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: to continue this success? 136 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: Well, the rookie guards have really more fair Child together 137 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: some solid games. Rivers has done enough, but those two 138 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: guys are still going to be in the spotlight, and 139 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: those two guys have each had their share of negative moments. 140 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: I think the best case scenario for the Bengals offense 141 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: is you end the season righting those guys as your 142 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: starters for twenty twenty six. But that's far from a 143 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: shirt thing with either of them right now. Despite the 144 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: positivity more from Fairchild that you've seen recently. I came 145 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 3: up with him the other day. He kind of echoed 146 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: what we had heard from Dan Pitcher around Week four 147 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: that he was playing a little hesitant, a little passive, 148 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 3: thinking too much and not just being physical early in 149 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: the season. He said after he came back from that injury, 150 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: coming off of the Steelers game, That's when he really 151 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: felt a flip switch for him and started playing more 152 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: aggressively because of some things he was able to clean up. 153 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: But he has to continue to do that when the 154 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: massups get tougher and when teams continue to throw more 155 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: at him and throw at him things they haven't seen. 156 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: And then Jalen Rivers has just had consistently some self 157 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: inflicted mistakes. Though on the whole it's been positive, he's 158 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: been a part of some negative plays. So I'm looking 159 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 3: at those two guys. How the offense can get derailed, 160 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: especially with an immobile quarterback. Is that interior pressure? So 161 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: they've got to continue to develop. 162 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: What do you feel like the plan becomes now with 163 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson. They choose not to move him at the deadline, 164 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: they hold Trey, They hold with Trey Hendrickson. What do 165 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: you envision the future with Trey Hendrickson here in Cincinnati? 166 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: How does this play out? 167 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: I mean, it would be bad business if stand up 168 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: with him on a franchise tag next season, or they 169 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 3: kind of overpay for him in the offseason heading into 170 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six because they feel like they end up 171 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 3: in a spot where they just have no one else 172 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 3: to pay. 173 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: That would be bad. 174 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: Business because they could have just saved themselves some money 175 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: by you know, getting the deal done earlier. But we 176 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 3: you know, that's a tale as old as time. With 177 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: the Bengals, the value of Hendrickson now is like, at 178 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 3: least I would have traded him, actually probably would have 179 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 3: traded him and then kind of flip those that's right 180 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: away and try to have gotten a longer term contributor 181 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: and kind of buy and sell. But at least with 182 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: Trey and now ideally you know, I expect them to 183 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: come back after the buye. You do have a more 184 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: fair chance to evaluate the coaches, the linebackers a Shamar 185 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: Stewart who doesn't have to be your number one, he 186 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 3: can be your number two when he's on the field 187 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: on the edge like he does give you a fair 188 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 3: chance to evaluate everybody. And I guess that's worth something. 189 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: But what's the plan with Trey Henderson? I mean, we've 190 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: been asking that for three years now and there's never 191 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 3: been any clarity. 192 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: What I'd saying. On offense, we've talked about a little 193 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: bit this week. Is there a scenario in which you 194 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: can see Joe Flacco coming back to this team for 195 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: next year, whether it be obviously a backup role behind 196 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, but I think there's such a value there 197 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: and what he brings to the table and maybe how 198 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: he can even help Joe and his continued development. Is 199 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: there an avenue where you make that a priority? 200 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 3: I wrote this the day that Burrow got hurt, and 201 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: it's a very dark question. You know, it's already a 202 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 3: Bengals team that hasn't historically invested a ton of guard. 203 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: Do you invest five million dollars into a guard who 204 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 3: could be a starter or a backup quarterback? And it 205 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: will show a lot about yourself, You the listener, you 206 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: the decider. How you answer that question. Are you just 207 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: resigned to the fact that Burrow will get hurt and 208 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 3: you need a backup and you're that pessimistic about the 209 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 3: outlook of Burrough's health that you are just almost expecting 210 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: the worst to happen. That's fair, I understand if you're 211 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 3: thinking that way having watched six years of Joe Burrow. 212 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 3: Or do you say, you know what, cross your fingers 213 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: and hope for the best with Burrow and get the 214 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: best twenty twenty, get the best twenty two guys fear 215 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 3: starting lineup the best eleven on offense. Like I could 216 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 3: understand if you were thinking either way, but that is 217 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: a very existential question. Pay a guard or pay a 218 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: backup quarterback. 219 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 2: The bye week gives us an opportunity to talk a 220 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: little Cincinnati Reds as well. You and I and Austin 221 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: we get to talk every Friday. Charlie, next time we 222 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 2: talk a week from today, do you think there'll be 223 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: a parade set for Kyle Schwarber being a Cincinnati read. 224 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: I wonder if KYLEE Warm will get spotted at the 225 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 3: Tedwood Mall, but like just because he's from Cincinnati and 226 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 3: that's a realistic place that he could be if he 227 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: stops back home. I expect the right to have about 228 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 3: twenty to twenty five million dollars total of payroll flexibility 229 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 3: that ownership is given this front office this season, and 230 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: I expect Shwarb to get around thirty. So unless they 231 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 3: are turning a paper clip into a into a boat 232 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: this offseason by wheeling and dealing and maneuvering to open 233 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: up all this sort of cap space while also filling 234 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 3: like seven needs on the roster, I just don't see 235 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 3: how that's possible. 236 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 5: Now Schwarber is supposed to be here in a week 237 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 5: or two for an event that he's doing. Do you 238 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 5: think the Reds just like say, hey, do you want 239 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 5: to talk just to just yeah, we're both here at 240 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 5: the same time, or does Schwarber's agent just say, all right, 241 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 5: where are we going to start? And then that determines 242 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 5: whether or not they even have a conversation. 243 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: So how this works really is a lot of it's 244 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: driven through the agents, especially at the initial part of 245 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 3: the process. That's kind of the value of the GM meetings, 246 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: which are next week in Las Vegas. You hear it 247 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 3: every year. Man, you know, we started talking at the 248 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: GM meetings. You meet with all the agents, you meet 249 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 3: with all the teams, and you kind of you know, 250 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: I don't know who Shoberd's agent is specifically that I 251 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 3: would assume that he represents a couple other free agents 252 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 3: that maybe the Reds would be interested in. So I 253 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: can see a conversation having there about a bunch of 254 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 3: guys and Shoarber's name comes up and something like that. 255 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: But no, I don't expect Kyle to be read in 256 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, but maybe some conversations around the league 257 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: with the Reds open up next week. 258 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: Charlie dive in just for a moment, if you will. 259 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: The roster and where it is now. You mentioned the 260 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: roster spots available, you mentioned the money to spend. How 261 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: do you view strengths weaknesses of where this roster is 262 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: right now and where it needs to go. 263 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 3: Well, we're like five years into looking for a way 264 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 3: to get the Reds a better bat, and that's something 265 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: that's something they need. But you look at or like 266 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: the real needs, like the things they need to field 267 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 3: a tomb are a fewer leievers, especially a left hander, 268 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: someone who can kind of cover the backup infield spots. 269 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: They need someone also who can at least be a 270 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: platoon piece in the lineup against right or excuse me, 271 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: against left handed pitching. Like, yes, they need another bat, 272 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: but to feel the team, they need all of those things. 273 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: And they only have twenty to twenty five million dollars 274 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: to work with, you know, And with that they've got 275 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 3: to replace their closer, their Swiss Army Knights and Nick Martinez. 276 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 3: They're losing Austin Hayes and Miguel on Duhar, who were 277 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 3: presences in the middle of their lineup at a nice 278 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 3: value last year, and then Barlow and suitor are are 279 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: are free agents, so there's just so much work they 280 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 3: have to get done to just steal the team. You 281 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 3: can't go out and get the best bat available. You 282 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 3: have to be creative. You have to find value. So 283 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 3: could that value be at first base with like an 284 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: O'Har with the Hoskins. Could that value be kind of 285 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 3: a platoon outfield piece, like a Mikey Strempsky or Elaine 286 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 3: Thomas like that might be the best the Reds can 287 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 3: do with how much work they have to do. 288 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: I saw it was. 289 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 5: It was interesting as well that Francona, when he was 290 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 5: on the hot stove, really kept hammering home the point 291 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 5: about depth and guys getting hurt and guys having maybe 292 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 5: to play a little bit too much. Do you expect 293 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 5: there to be a decent chunk of that money going 294 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 5: towards the depth and just having guys that they can 295 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 5: turn to comfortably, because we've mentioned in the past, and 296 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 5: maybe the minor league system's a little bit thin at 297 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 5: least for now, do you expect depth signings to be 298 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 5: a big part of the offseason. 299 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 3: So I have them looking at the roster now nine 300 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: guys he were regular in the lineup to end last season, 301 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: Fredo Marte, Luxpeer, Elie Stevenson, Stuart McLean, Hayes Now Stewart 302 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: will technically be competing for a spot, but we all 303 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 3: like sal And then you have Will Benson, who his 304 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 3: role is a conversation that we'll have another day and 305 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 3: what his role was in twenty twenty five to do 306 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 3: a podcast on that. Benson, is he a guy competing 307 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: for a spot? Benson? Is he a guy who's a 308 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: regular in this lineup? 309 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 4: Well? 310 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: And then throw Stewart in there as well. Well, that 311 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 3: depends on how many guys you act. Do you add 312 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: one guy for fifteen million dollars or if you're prioritizing depth, well, 313 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 3: that looks more like prioritizing getting two, three four guys 314 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 3: to build that depth. You're probably not getting that from 315 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: the minor league now. Hector Rodriguez. I keep saying the name. 316 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 3: We need to know he'll be a big part of 317 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 3: next year's Reds, but the rest of their depths right 318 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: now looks like cees. You know, I'm not expecting him 319 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: to be a factor next season. Tyler Callahan coming off 320 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 3: major injuries, Blake done. Shout out to Blake Dunn for 321 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 3: the way he finished last year, but he still got 322 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 3: a ton to prove, rEFInd a huge mystery box. It's 323 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 3: not like there's this way coming outside effector so if 324 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: death is the plan, that would look like two to 325 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: three kind of bench platoon, fill in the gaps pieces 326 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 3: being their plan on the position player side. 327 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 5: Kind of an off the wall question here, but the 328 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 5: Colorado Rockies hired Paul D. Podesta away from the Cleveland Browns. 329 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 5: What did you make of And not that you are 330 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 5: fully versed in this, but what did you make of 331 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 5: Paul D. Podesta with the Browns and what could he 332 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 5: be doing with the Rockies. 333 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: There's a general theme here that I really think is 334 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 3: fascinating and we can talk again. But like, yeah, Terry Francona, 335 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 3: congratulations manager your finalists. Of course, we also talk about 336 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 3: decisions that we like and don't like with Francona and 337 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: all that stuff. But Francona is a good, solid manager 338 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: who's accomplished a lot in the league. Look at the 339 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 3: higher that were made this year. You know you're toning 340 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: the teller on the manager side. It's coming from Tennessee, 341 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: Craig Stammon or a lever with no managing our coach 342 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 3: of experience Kurt Suzuki in La like boy. The Reds 343 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 3: must be glad that they were shopping on the manager 344 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 3: market last year as opposed to this year, because last 345 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 3: year was just the Reds, the Marlins, the White Sox, 346 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 3: the Reads were by far the most enticing, attractive job 347 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 3: and they got the best guy available in Terry Francona. 348 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 3: This year, both on the on the front office and 349 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 3: on the manager side, due to some you know, some 350 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 3: some changing factors in baseball and so many openings going on, 351 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 3: you saw a lot of off the wall hires where 352 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 3: there's a ton of risks, and those will be fascinating 353 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 3: stories in baseball. But the Reds really did kind of 354 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 3: get lucky with their timing in Francona that they didn't 355 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 3: have to be shopping for, you know, lead decision makers 356 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: when the market was so poor and so deluded. You know, 357 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 3: the Reds weren't a good spout to be able to 358 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 3: do that last year. Because this year you're seeing some 359 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: guys get hired and you're like, what the heck happened here? 360 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 5: Last question with the potential lockout looming in twenty twenty seven. 361 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 5: Do you think that affects decisions in this offseason, especially 362 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 5: from a financial standpoint. 363 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 3: I think it should. I think you go all in. 364 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: And this is just me speculating, like I'm not Nick 365 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: call what I do. And Nick has never indicated that 366 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: his plan is to go all in. He uses the 367 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 3: word sustainability long you build them within all that. What 368 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 3: I do is I push real chips in for twenty 369 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 3: twenty six, see what happens in twenty twenty seven, and 370 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 3: see how your roster looks, and as soon as the 371 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 3: wheels fall out, trade from the top of your roster, 372 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: restop the roster that way. But at least in that 373 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 3: case you get a real chance to make a run, 374 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 3: and you do have some valuable pieces who can catch 375 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 3: you some stuff in return in twenty seven and twenty 376 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: eight to kind of rebuild for twenty twenty nine or 377 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: twenty twenty or twenty thirty. But that's me, that's not them. Yes, 378 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: the lockout is the looming thing that creates some fear 379 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 3: from a payrol perspective, what you'll have to work with, 380 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 3: and that would probably that's kind of a talk of 381 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 3: baseball right now is how that impacts planning going forward. 382 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: Charlie, before we let you go, we mentioned positivity. Make 383 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 2: me feel better that last week for the Bearcats was 384 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: just a bad game against Utah and that this team 385 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: can win out and play for a big twelve championship. 386 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: I feel very confident about the growth and development development 387 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 3: of Brendan Towresby. Last year, what you saw was a 388 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: very negative arrow. Once teams figured them out, once teams 389 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 3: kind of took away the underneath game, he wasn't able 390 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 3: to beat too deep. I feel much more confident about 391 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 3: his ability to make adjustments and about his ability to 392 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: be consonant when things aren't going his way. I'll feel 393 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 3: very positive about the difference in just who he is 394 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 3: as a quarterback compared to last season. So you know, 395 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 3: he played poorly against you saw that was a big 396 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: part of that game. Special teams play poorly as well. 397 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: But I like this quarterback and I like the star 398 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 3: power on this team. As soon as they can just 399 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 3: become more consistent against the run, they'll be on a 400 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 3: better path. 401 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: Charlie, You're never on a bye week, So for those listening, 402 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 2: what's the easiest way they can follow along with all 403 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: your work. 404 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 3: Charlie Shockboard in Fox nineteen. We've got a We're not 405 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 3: on a bye week, you know. It's it's very convenient 406 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: that the MLP off season opened up right, But the 407 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 3: Bengals are off and we've got some fun baseball stories 408 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: and the works, and then we'll be back at Pacoor 409 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 3: next week. 410 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 2: You're the best, Charlie heaving during weekend. We'll talk to 411 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 2: you again next week. 412 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 3: See you guys. 413 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: That's Charlie Goldsmith. That is a time that I value 414 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 2: a great deal. Every Friday my favorite twenty five minutes 415 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 2: of the week. I just enjoy talking to Charlie and 416 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: picking his brain so much. We'll get to pick Tom 417 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: Gillaider's brain at two o'clock Austin and I will peel 418 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 2: back what we're thinking in our brains with our pick 419 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 2: him segment. But for now, your talkbacks are next on 420 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: the Home of the Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 421 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 6: Now your chance to win a thousand for dumpbacks. 422 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 7: Go and grab your phone and record a message. 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Thanks to Cincy Shirt's our number two. 434 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: These are your Friday edition of. 435 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 8: Talkbacks Dangles forty two, Bye Week forty five. Oh, just 436 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 8: giving my prognostication, it's the Lord. 437 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: Thanks now, energy, How are we here? 438 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 5: How now? 439 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 9: The Dolphins sure pub a fight last night against our uskies, 440 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 9: but we sliced them and diced them. 441 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 2: And turned them into tuna fish. 442 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 9: I also heard to my sources that's Tony Pike's nickname 443 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 9: Tuna Breath. 444 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: Oh crazy. 445 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 9: And now the Cats face a daunting powerhouse and the 446 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 9: Georgia State Panthers. 447 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: I can't wait. 448 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 5: Tony can't have bad breath because all he eats his 449 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 5: chicken tenders and mac and cheese. 450 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 2: And now chewing gum. Hello is this home? 451 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 9: Hello, mister conen Ham, It's great to talk to you. 452 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 9: You are a great American, unlike those guys down the hallway. 453 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: They're not great Americans. 454 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 9: Austin Gilmour and Tony pick I don't don't care for 455 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 9: those two. 456 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 10: First time, last time. So you know, I hear you 457 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 10: doing these ads for a wind Shooters, and you know, 458 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 10: I mean, maybe you gotta you know, maybe you think 459 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 10: outa instead of just doing those, maybe do some recipes 460 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 10: or something. And I mean you got at your bacon, 461 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 10: your cheddy, your pepper you know, maybe maybe maybe put 462 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 10: put it in lasagna. You know, you could do a 463 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 10: collab as a kid. Say what the Holtman where you 464 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 10: suck out the Boston cream and you spit in some 465 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 10: pepper jack? 466 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 2: What about that? Thank you? 467 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 5: Stop the fight, just stop. Bill Dinnison, Oh my god, 468 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 5: oh the first time, last time, he said, oh my god. 469 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: Hell hello, this is a le Roy. 470 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 9: I accidentally talked back to the wrong place I was 471 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 9: trying to reach mister Canham. 472 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, we get it. 473 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 11: Thanks, Bingals, Bye week, give me the bye week thirty 474 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 11: five Bengals twenty eight. That's right, I got the Bengals 475 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 11: seven point home dogs during a bye good week. Everybody 476 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 11: talk to you later, pimps. 477 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 2: Whoa whoa dude? 478 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 5: Whoa whoa take it easy man, get slow. 479 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 2: Bye week. 480 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 12: I guess I should start saying my name at the beginning. 481 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 12: You don't have to swing. I've noticed even a long 482 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 12: timer say their name at the beginning, and even though they. 483 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: Know we all know who they are. 484 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 12: Hey, Jim and Milford, have you noticed Evan McPherson has 485 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 12: been quiet this year, just quietly doing his thing. I 486 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 12: think it's because he hasn't had a game winning field 487 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 12: goals or something. 488 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 2: Had one three weeks ago. 489 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 13: Yeah, Hi, guys, Happy Friday, join the show. Hey, I'm 490 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 13: not a soccer fan name it because I don't know 491 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 13: enough about the game, but it sure does look like 492 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 13: fun I except I would never play it. I can't 493 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 13: stand to be hitting the shins or the knee. 494 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it just makes me want to barf. 495 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 13: Anyway, I wish all this FC soccer fans out there 496 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 13: good luck this weekend. Hell is real and I hope 497 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 13: FC Cincinnati comes out on top. 498 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: All right, guys, have a good Tommy g coming up 499 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: at two o'clock. By the way, Evan McPherson's only three 500 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: misses on the year from fifty out. He's yet to 501 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: make a field goal over fifty Oh, so he hasn't 502 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: made a single one over No, he's over three on 503 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 2: over fifty attempts in Tristy Yard attempts. 504 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 5: Lynn, you should go to the game. You will have 505 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 5: a new appreciation for soccer. 506 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 7: Yeah. 507 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 4: So Moe does a ad for Share Facts Bank where 508 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 4: they're giving keys to treasure chests for kids. Tony, did 509 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 4: you ever go to Johnny Toys when you're a kid 510 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 4: and have a key for the old castle? 511 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: That is the best man? 512 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 6: I know. 513 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 4: Austin probably didn't because he's not from this area, but 514 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 4: that was always awesome to do. 515 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 5: Love Love Love Johnny's Toys blameless to me. You get 516 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 5: a key and then you get to your toy store 517 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 5: your birthday. 518 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: At Johnny's Toys, there's like an extra room, like a 519 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 2: little castle, and on your birthday they'll give you a 520 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: key and you get to use the key, open the 521 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: door and go in there and you essentially get to 522 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 2: pick out something for your birthday. Oh, they just give 523 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 2: it to you. That's pretty really really cool, man. It 524 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: is Uh. I did it when I was a kid, 525 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 2: and I believe was it last year of the year 526 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: before my aunt took Wilder on his birthday as well. 527 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 2: It's really cool. 528 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 14: Yeah, I need to share it. Tony's good for him, brother. 529 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 14: I thought that this messy yesterday, but I guess I didn't. 530 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 14: But the Bangles right now need to part ways. Would 531 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 14: battle Britt and Brown. If it can't tackle and block 532 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 14: at this level of competition nowadays, you need to go. 533 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 14: Just my opinion, go Bear can. 534 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 2: It's good to hear from your brother. 535 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 15: Hey, guys, Jeff and the Richmond Happy Friday. I hope 536 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 15: you guys have a great weekend coming up. As far 537 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 15: as Wisconsin and Luke Fickle, who's to say that the 538 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 15: athletic directors not on the hot seat And if they 539 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 15: fire him, maybe they'll just get rid of Fickle. Anyway, 540 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 15: as far as FC Cincinnati goes, I would say Pat 541 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 15: Nenan's on the hot seat if he doesn't advance these 542 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 15: guys this weekend. 543 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 5: Your thoughts well based off the history of FC Cincinnati. 544 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 5: I mean, they've had a bunch of coaches really in 545 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 5: ten years. I don't think that's crazy to say. I 546 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 5: personally would not feel that way. 547 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 3: Man. 548 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: If it was a loss though at Columbus, Man, that 549 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: would be it would be tough. 550 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there would. I'm sure there would be 551 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 5: thoughts and conversations at guys. 552 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 16: We're talking earlier about the Indianapolis Colts owner and how 553 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 16: much respect you have for her. And I know it's 554 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 16: pretty hard to predict in the future, but what's your 555 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 16: opinion on what do you think Katie Blackburn's going to 556 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 16: do when she takes charge of the team. Do you 557 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 16: think that she's going to be like her old man 558 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 16: or do you think you're hoping that she is like 559 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 16: the owner of the Colts and just fixing everything. 560 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: It says you want this, you got it. I don't 561 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 2: know Katie, but what I've seen and heard around her, 562 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: I think she'll crush it. 563 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 5: I don't know if I would share that opinion. I 564 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 5: want to know how involved she would be in football, 565 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 5: because Mike is still involved in football. He is involved 566 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 5: in the roster, in who goes where, and blah blah 567 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 5: blah blah blah. He he signs off on everything. Katie, 568 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 5: I don't know if she would do that. That's my 569 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 5: biggest thing is like how involved is she in football? 570 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 5: And maybe most notably, what then does Elizabeth and Caroline 571 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 5: take in that situation? How do their roles expand? It's 572 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 5: one of the most fascinating questions about this franchise. 573 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 17: I think this three first round picks for Burrow nonsense 574 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 17: is the biggest load of crap that I've ever heard 575 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 17: in news surrounding Joe Burrow in the national media. The 576 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 17: Browns and Blackburn's would never consider trading Joe Burrow, at 577 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 17: least not at this point in his career. He has 578 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 17: been their meal ticket to any success that they've had 579 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 17: in the last thirty thirty five years. No chance in hell. 580 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 17: Plus they would blow all three of those picks. 581 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: We all know it. 582 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 11: I don't think it's crazy from a Bengals perspective to 583 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 11: trade Burrow on the old man low Key. 584 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 3: When the last time he played a full healthy season. 585 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 7: I think the Jets would be. 586 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 18: The dumb ones in this situation. 587 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 6: Those five first round picks, that's five people. 588 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 15: You can try to plug in and play in three 589 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 15: or five. 590 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 3: And they're really good. 591 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 11: That's pretty successful. 592 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: People that you don't kind of pay. 593 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 15: But if the Bengals can use those five first rounders, 594 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 15: and I'm sure some other stuff. 595 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: They would get, I think that would successfully. 596 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 3: Set them up, Especially we got the drafting on quarterback. 597 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: Was that Garrett from Lexington No oh, I thought I 598 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: was a guy that was calling out close enough. 599 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 5: Pretty similar. Just two years ago, Woody Johnson's grandsons were 600 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 5: making football decisions based off of Madden ratings for the Jets. 601 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 5: If you want to, you want to talk about an 602 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 5: organization that is so screwed up, The Jets are one 603 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 5: of the worst run organizations in sports. This is the 604 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 5: taj Mahall compared to the Jets, and Joe Burrow knows that. 605 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 17: And with FC Cincinnati obviously a must win situation tomorrow night, 606 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 17: West end hot take, I think Pat Noonan might just 607 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 17: be playing for his job. Wow, you know he's had 608 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 17: all this regular season success, so what does he have 609 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 17: to show now in the postseason aside from that one 610 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 17: run to the Eastern Conference Finals a few years ago. 611 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 2: Not a whole lot. 612 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 17: And he's wasting a hell of a lot of talent, 613 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 17: especially on the offensive end, kind of like a Tomlin 614 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 17: situation in Pittsburgh, but without any championships to show for it. 615 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 2: Okay, this is as maybe I'm behind on this all right. 616 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 19: This Joe Burrow conversation is so silly. I had to 617 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,959 Speaker 19: go back and look it up a little bit. In 618 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 19: recent years, the Browns. Remember that three first rounders, a 619 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 19: third and a fourth to the. 620 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: Texans for Deshaun Watson. 621 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 19: How'd that work out? The Broncos and two first rounders, 622 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 19: no offense, Shelby Harris Andrew Locke to the Seahawks for 623 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 19: Russell Wilson. Yeah, that didn't work. Now one that did? 624 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 19: Rams two first rounders and Jerry Goff to the Lions 625 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 19: for Stafford. 626 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: That one worked worked for both? Yeah. 627 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 7: Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan and Oe Ela. 628 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 7: I wouldn't trust the Bengals with five first round draft 629 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 7: picks for Joe Burrow. Heck, I wouldn't trust the Bengals 630 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 7: with five first round draft picks for Cam Taylor. 631 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: Brit Oh my gosh. 632 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 7: I wouldn't trust the Bengals with five first round draft 633 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 7: picks in one year. 634 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Great point. 635 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 20: Yeah, the Joe Burrow conversation is very interesting, but in 636 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 20: reality it. 637 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 6: Would never happen. 638 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 20: The Bengals are probably just help holding hostage if it 639 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 20: came down to it. But if you put yourself in 640 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 20: Burrow's shoes and you're a smart, confident personal contest, there 641 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 20: is no way that you can say with a straight 642 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 20: face that's staying with the Bengals is the best decision 643 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 20: for your career if you truly want to win. There's 644 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 20: a reason the rest of the league looks at the 645 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 20: Bengals to lose confient franchise. 646 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: They've only won a playoff. 647 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 20: Game in five seasons out of their fifty eight. 648 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 18: Hey, fellas, it's out them, and you know, I want 649 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 18: to talk to you about patterns, particularly with the Bengals. 650 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 18: It's be good for two three years and then stink 651 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 18: for twenty years like clockwork. They missed their window with Burrow. 652 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 3: It's done. 653 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 18: And you know what, I'm too old for this crap. 654 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 18: I'm done with the Bengals. 655 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 2: I am done. 656 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 18: If I'm going to watch an NFL game, it's going 657 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 18: to be up the role in Indianapolis. 658 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 3: Go Colts. 659 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 2: Oh boy, oh boy? 660 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 21: See man Tony Austin George from vet Town. Hey, that 661 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 21: last fourteen minutes of my life was completely wasted about 662 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 21: you guys talking about trading Joe Burrow. That's the dumbest 663 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 21: ring any of us have ever heard. That's never happening. 664 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,719 Speaker 21: And you know it, I know, and it's I know, 665 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 21: you know it's why are you talking about it? Because 666 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 21: I mean talking about everyone. How about them boys? We're 667 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,959 Speaker 21: about We're about to win Saturday. I'm gonna be at 668 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 21: the Bailey. 669 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 5: Uh. 670 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 21: Also, the Bengels need to get rid of Duke Toob 671 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 21: and that's out of mind. 672 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: I don't know how they even keep that gear out anymore. 673 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 2: It's got one. That was something that was brought up 674 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: that we brought to light. Two, We're gonna talk to 675 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: Tom Glenner in just a few minutes to talk f 676 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 2: C Cincinnati and hell is real. It's a bye week, 677 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 2: it's a Friday, Let's go crazy. Comprehension has never been 678 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: a strong suit of Georgia's credit. 679 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 6: It sucks to say out loud, it sucks to hear it, 680 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 6: it sucks to come to grips with it, especially if 681 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 6: you're a Bengals fan. But this historically is a bottom 682 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 6: five organization franchise in the NFL. And there's one reason 683 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 6: for that. And this is an overused statement, but it's true. 684 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 6: I mean, it's just it is what it is. It's 685 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 6: the ownership. This team will never truly reach its potential 686 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 6: under this current ownership. Kind of like the Cowboys with 687 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 6: Jerry Jones, but at least he's got flair and you know, 688 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 6: and they're worth a lot of money with the Bengals. 689 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 3: What do you got. 690 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 7: Hey, guys? 691 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: Markus from the groove, Hello, Marcus, got a question for 692 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 2: you guys. 693 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 22: So in the NFL people like to bring up the 694 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 22: division record. Why is that so important in the NFL 695 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 22: to be two and oh or five and oh, five 696 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 22: and one in the division win? 697 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 2: In all honesty, the vision record has. 698 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 22: Nothing to do with what we do in the division, 699 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 22: unlike college with the SEC or the Big twelve. 700 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 2: It's just kind of curious, Austin, do you want to 701 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 2: handle that one? The way I view it is, if 702 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 2: you can go four and two, five and one, six 703 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: and oh in your division, you're probably going to win 704 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 2: that division, and that guarantees a home playoff game. Now, 705 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 2: it's not all, it's not right, it's not always the case, 706 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: but typically it's the start. If you do that, start 707 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 2: with your division. Marvin Lewis always used to say, we 708 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 2: want to win the AFC North, we want to be 709 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 2: undefeated at home, and we want to be world champions. 710 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 2: So if you start with the af SEE North, there's 711 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 2: three home wins right there, three road wins. That's six. 712 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 2: Let's just put you in a spot to make it attainable. 713 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,439 Speaker 5: And being able to battle through those teams I think 714 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 5: is just really important. 715 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 4: Now. 716 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 5: The FC North this year is maybe not what we 717 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 5: thought it would be, but that's always been my mentality. 718 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 5: I don't know that there's a specific, you know thing. 719 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I heard earlier that the Bengals 720 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 23: would lose the rest of the year. Does that include 721 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 23: the bye week, Tony, I'm a big TP fan. 722 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it sounds like Bill Cunningham through the hallways. 723 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 24: Hey, guys, I was pondering a thought about the Bengals and. 724 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 2: Well that was your thought. 725 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 24: Hey, guys, call from Cleaves here, was pondering a thought. 726 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 24: You know, the one thing that I think about all 727 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 24: the time if you look back through you know, the 728 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 24: last thirty years of the Bengals. 729 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 2: Okay, they've always had two really good. 730 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 24: Receivers, a good quarterback and everything else. Because offense sells tickets. 731 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 24: The only thing really people look at it on the 732 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 24: defensive side of the ball with sacks, and that's the 733 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 24: reason why we're at one. 734 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 5: I had some really great defensive ends here over the years, 735 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 5: Justin Smith and Smith, Carlos Dunlap. Do you know Atkins 736 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 5: had a bunch of sacks Man Carlos Dunlap, I mean, 737 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 5: what a time and a lot of great ones over 738 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:41,439 Speaker 5: the years. 739 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 2: What a time. Happy bye week everybody. This just in 740 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 2: Chicago scores again. Who day. 741 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,760 Speaker 25: The Bengals don't want all those first round draft picks. 742 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 25: The old man would have a heart attack for sure 743 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 25: when they all when all the contracts come to do 744 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 25: at the same time. No, they much rather have a 745 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 25: bunch of fifth, sixth, and seventh round picks. That way 746 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 25: they can keep them on the cheap. 747 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 748 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 5: I mean, this is a thing like if I were 749 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 5: the Bengals listening to this, if I were Mike and 750 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 5: Katie and Dukentroy, it would infuriate me to no end 751 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 5: that this is what people think about me, the perception, 752 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 5: and and that's the thing that I always come back to, 753 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 5: is like it would drive me nuts it I would 754 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 5: not be able to sleep. I would do everything I 755 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 5: could to change that narrative. 756 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 19: Jordan battle for new recycled bins oft pay Corps in 757 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 19: the offseason. 758 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 2: Who says, No, are the recycling bins a problem? Can 759 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 2: they tackle? I guess they both have the same time. 760 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 2: What do you want to worry about. The bye week 761 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 2: has some of the best players in space that you'll 762 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 2: see on a team. If you thought the tackling was 763 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 2: an issue, wait till Sunday. Oh boy, Yeah, let's see 764 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 2: what the bye week's got. Yeah, all right, we're done. 765 00:37:58,520 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break. What we got on 766 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 2: or two segments? Coming back? You tell me we're gonna 767 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 2: have two seconds. 768 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 5: No, no, no, We're gonna have one segment, one segment, and. 769 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 2: Then we'll get to Tom Gallader. All coming up next 770 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 2: the ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station thanks to Cincy Shirts. 771 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 26: Ball in the NATI gotch you in part by bod 772 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 26: Light and by Oakley Greens on ESPN fifteen thirty, the 773 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 26: official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 774 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back Football in the NATI. Finishing up 775 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 2: Hour number two, Tom Gallader, we'll talk f C Cincinnati. 776 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 2: He's the voice of FC Cincinnati. He'll join us to 777 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 2: kick off Hour number three. Austin and I also gonna 778 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 2: make our picks. We have quick hits all coming up 779 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 2: in the next hour. But before we get there, we 780 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 2: kind of alluded to this with with Charlie h Paul 781 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 2: de Podesta Austin. Yeah, has been hired by the Colorado 782 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 2: Rockies to run their baseball ops and he's moving on 783 00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 2: from the Browns. Two Part one, Your thoughts on the 784 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 2: transition of going sport to sport? How different going from 785 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 2: football to baseball is this? And two? Paul was made 786 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 2: famous because of Moneyball? Correct? Where does moneyball know? 787 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 5: He worked with Nick Crawl back in those days where 788 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 5: Oakland Athletics. Where does Moneyball rank for you? In sports movies? 789 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,479 Speaker 5: One of the all time best? Oh, like it's top 790 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 5: it's probably top five? 791 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 2: Wow? 792 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that is an elite movie you can 793 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,280 Speaker 5: watch anytime. It's got that soundtracked, the Mighty River Grand 794 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,760 Speaker 5: or whatever that that song is called. It just takes 795 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,280 Speaker 5: you back to a moment and can transform any moment 796 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 5: to something more meaningful. Brad Pitt's awesome in that movie 797 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 5: is Billy Bean by the way, You know it's he's 798 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,439 Speaker 5: at least going back to a sport where he has 799 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 5: some pelts on the wall. He did have some sick 800 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 5: sess in baseball, now not a lot. He was the 801 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 5: GM of the Dodgers for like twenty months before he 802 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 5: got fired. He did have the whole moneyball thing in 803 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 5: that run. But he's he's now forever known as the 804 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 5: guy who brought in Andrew Berry to run the Browns, 805 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 5: who brought in Kevin Stefanski, and who signed off on 806 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 5: and helped facilitate the Deshaun Watson trade. And so I 807 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 5: think a lot of Browns fans are thinking to themselves, Okay, well, 808 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 5: maybe we're better off without Paul de Podesta, who still, 809 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 5: by the way, lived in California and would either work 810 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 5: remotely or sometimes travel to Cleveland. Yeah, but he wasn't 811 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 5: around a ton and there was still a lot of 812 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 5: like ambiguity around what exactly he did and what his 813 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 5: role was and on the day to day. But I 814 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 5: think a lot of Browns fans wonder now two things. 815 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 5: Number One, are we better off without him being around 816 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 5: and having the ear of the haslms? And number two, 817 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 5: what does this now mean for Ae Drew Berry and 818 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 5: Kevin Stefanski. If you remember a couple of weeks ago 819 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 5: Andrew Berry was supposed to have it might have been 820 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 5: last week, he was supposed to have his press conference 821 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 5: around the trade deadline, And to Andrew Berry's credit, he 822 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 5: actually gets up and speaks to the media and answers 823 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 5: for the decisions that he makes. That's noteworthy, But this 824 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 5: time he didn't. That press conference was mysteriously canceled. I 825 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 5: wonder why now we don't know what's going on in 826 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 5: Andrew Berry's life. Could have been something personal, could have 827 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 5: been something professional. But I think it's interesting. Kevin Stefanski 828 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 5: has also given up play calling for the second time 829 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:42,280 Speaker 5: in Countum two years. Wow, So two years, two times 830 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 5: Kevin Stefanski has given up play calling. I just wonder 831 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 5: what the future of the Browns is with Paul de 832 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 5: Podesta out of the equation. 833 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 3: Yep. 834 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 5: And when it comes to the Colorado Rockies, if you 835 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 5: want to talk about. 836 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,399 Speaker 2: A dumpster fire, people still show up out there, man, 837 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 2: they do. 838 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 5: And that's to the credit of Dick Monfort, the owner 839 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 5: of the Rockies. He's done a marvelous job of making 840 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 5: that a destination place, building up the area around the 841 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 5: ballpark like all of it. And you know it's I 842 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 5: always like to go and look at what Woody Page, 843 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 5: the former Denver Post columnist, has to say about the Rockies. 844 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 5: He calls them the rocks Bottoms. He says, the Rocks 845 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 5: Bottoms dumpster fire of a franchise, won't have a GM 846 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 5: at GM meetings. They don't have a President of Baseball Operations, 847 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 5: GM manager, coaching staff, closure on Chris Bryant, any kind 848 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 5: of plan moving forward, and no for sale sign. The 849 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 5: worst team in baseball has nothing but the Monforts. Oh now, 850 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 5: so like forty five minutes later they hired Paul de Podesta. 851 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 2: But I mean that is just a train wreck of 852 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 2: an organization. I do have to ask you mentioned top 853 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 2: five sport movie of all time. Yeah, Now, I know 854 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 2: you're not privy to movies, so you probably haven't seen 855 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 2: a ton of sports movies. 856 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:11,760 Speaker 5: But Rocky, It's fine. I had News Bears, Caddy Shack. 857 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,280 Speaker 5: Remember the Titans is up there, Raging Bull Remember the Titans? 858 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, Field of Dreams, Friday Night Lights, Field of Dreams. 859 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 2: White men can't jump Hoosiers? Where where do you put 860 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 2: Happy Gilmour? 861 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:31,399 Speaker 4: On there? 862 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 2: Right up there? Okay? I mean, have you named five 863 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 2: movies better than Moneyball? I think Moneyballs maybe like number 864 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 2: ten any given Sunday, phenomenal, Rudy's probably number eleven. Rudy 865 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 2: is a documentary, Miracle is awesome, ten Cup and ten Cup. 866 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 2: I can't put Moneyball on my top five. Yeah, yeah, 867 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 2: you can. I can get him in the top ten. 868 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,879 Speaker 2: That's what about Bull Durham. That's right, Bull's up there. 869 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 5: I mean, that's just these are all good movies. None 870 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 5: of them are Moneyball. Oh no, oh no, Friday Night Lights. 871 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 5: Oh you've seen all these. 872 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 2: No. I was gonna say this, stop right now, stop 873 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 2: right now. There's no like. 874 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 5: So here's my I think you could even say I 875 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 5: think you'd even say Moneyball transcends the sports genre. 876 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 2: It's beyond just sports. Here's the thing. You've seen five 877 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 2: sports movies ever, so yes, out of the five movies 878 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 2: you've seen, Moneyball is probably in the top five. 879 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,439 Speaker 5: So I just put in top sports movies of all 880 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 5: time on the Google machine. Okay, where's Moneyball land? And 881 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 5: if you if you click on so, Moneyball's on there. 882 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 5: Remember the Titans is on there. I've seen that Rockies 883 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 5: on there. I've seen that Dodgeball is on there. Does 884 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 5: that count? Dodgeball's a sports a great movie. Okay, great movie. 885 00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 5: I've seen that Coach Carter. Awesome movie. I've seen that. No, 886 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 5: I haven't seen it. You've got to be kidding me. What 887 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 5: about air Bud is he in the conversation. I've seen 888 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 5: multiple air buds, did you. 889 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 2: I didn't know. What about the Mighty Ducks? Absolutely, I 890 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 2: like Mike, what about Miracle? I didn't know. I didn't 891 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 2: know until I started having kids that it's just not 892 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 2: air bud. There's a baseball bud, soccer bud everything. 893 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:31,919 Speaker 5: What about Space Jam, the original Space two? I only 894 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 5: watched the original Space Jam probably seven hundred times. I 895 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 5: had This is no joke. I had the soundtrack, the 896 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 5: CD of the soundtrack in my car growing up. I 897 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 5: thought you were going to say right now, but I 898 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 5: still have it somewhere. 899 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 2: Let's go. I mean, do do. 900 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 5: Is back before we all hated R Kelly? Terrence still 901 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,120 Speaker 5: loves R Kelly really yeah, you know he. I mean 902 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 5: he's always talking about Art Kelly this, RC Kelly that, 903 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 5: and like, I get it, that's your guy. But like, 904 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 5: at some point, don't you want to like publicly distance 905 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 5: yourself from Mark Kelly. I mean, Diddy might have a 906 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 5: bop out there, but I'm not talking about how much 907 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 5: I love Diddy's music. Not All Trapped in the Closet 908 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 5: series was just insanity. You know, when they did the 909 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 5: Quarterback series on Netflix with Joe Burrow. They didn't show 910 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 5: like half of the songs he actually played. Do you 911 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 5: know why on his piano? You know why? 912 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 4: No? 913 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 2: Because they were Kanye West songs. Oh. 914 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 5: Netflix is like, nah, man, we don't want anything to 915 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,359 Speaker 5: do with Kanye School. Kanye was so good. Oh yeah, 916 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,399 Speaker 5: I mean, no doubt about it. But people aren't over 917 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,879 Speaker 5: there saying, gosh, Kanye love Kanye. 918 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 919 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 5: You know, it's just just concerning behavior from tern. Some 920 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 5: would say loyal to a fault perhaps, Yeah, some would 921 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 5: say that these movies can transcend time. I think you 922 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 5: can make an argument that this segment may have transcended 923 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 5: time now you've started to see it. So I actually 924 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 5: have seen some movies. They're all just sports movies, and 925 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 5: many of them have seen over and over again. 926 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 2: But you you're I just don't think you're the most 927 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 2: capable to dive into to naming a sports movie that's 928 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 2: top five when you've probably only seen six sports movies. 929 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 5: Undeniable that I am not the voice. 930 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 2: I'm thirty. Yes, thirty years have went by and not 931 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 2: one time have you been like, you know what, let 932 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 2: me see what this this buzz around Caddie shocks all about. 933 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 5: No, dude, I don't care about Like, what about Air 934 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 5: the Michael Jordan movie? What about Hoosiers? Huh have you 935 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,879 Speaker 5: seen Hoosiers? I've seen like the scene of the free 936 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 5: throw line. I haven't seen the whole thing. I don't 937 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 5: I don't know how much. Why Why is the one 938 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 5: guy smiling at the end though, the coach of the 939 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 5: team that's losing, he's like smiling. Sometimes you can only 940 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 5: laugh through the pain. Yeah, these are the questions that 941 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,359 Speaker 5: nobody seems to have the answers to. Sometimes I'm trying 942 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 5: to think, like, who what I was doing other stuff? 943 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 22: Uh? 944 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 2: Huh? Okay, Well, well I heard how many seasons you're 945 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 2: You're thirteen seasons into your Madden League. Cut back on 946 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 2: nine games a week. Let's keep it to one season 947 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,479 Speaker 2: a week and start. Let's watch the gay Let's watch 948 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 2: some movies. Man, my second I had a second monitor, 949 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 2: have a movie on in. 950 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 5: The background, Well, then I can't watch it. That's part 951 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 5: of the problem too, is I have to like be 952 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 5: all in. I have to like goodness, pay attention to everything, 953 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,280 Speaker 5: and then I'll like rewind it so it becomes a chore. 954 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,280 Speaker 2: I'm like that with everything. I feel bad for Tommy 955 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 2: G who's got to follow this conversation. Yeah, we'll attempt 956 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 2: to do that. Next, we'll talk about Hell is Real 957 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati. Hell was that segment? 958 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 26: Next, you've been listening to Football in the Natti on 959 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 26: ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 960 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,399 Speaker 2: Okay, if you're