1 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: Hour two Twin City's News Talk AM eleven thirty and 2 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: one three five f M John Justice broadcasting from the 3 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: sixty five to one Carpet Next Day Installed Studios. Devin 4 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: is in the master control booth this morning. We'll get 5 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: back to more of your comments from the iHeart Radio app. 6 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: Let's go here briefly, I want to talk about this 7 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: post from Peggy Flannagan that stuck out to me and 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: I need your help on something here in just a moment. 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: First off, though continued a post mortem on the No 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: King's protest. This one from the Daily Wire came up overnight. 11 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: The Federal Bureau of Investigation is aware of multiple instances 12 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: of No King's protesters explicitly calling for violence, the Daily 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: Wire has learned. 14 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,959 Speaker 2: And this goes back to the commentary that I was sharing. 15 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: Last hour where we had that ridiculous comment from Foe 16 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: of the show n Eric regarding Charlie Kirk and Trump 17 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: and the White House demolition and people freaking out on 18 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: the left over the building renovations, and I mentioned how 19 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: I put up a post on a rather benign post 20 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: on Facebook, just sharing my view and opinion of the effectiveness, 21 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: and we talked about this extensively yesterday on the show 22 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: of the No Kings protests. I received several emails overnight 23 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: to Justice at iHeartRadio dot com. I appreciate those, thank 24 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: you for sending them in. 25 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: And I just the. 26 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: Response that I got from individuals who used to be 27 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: huge friends of my show that know me, but now 28 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: they're anti Trump adjusted to that Trump derangement syndrome degree. 29 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: And I bring it up because the level of vitriol 30 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: that some people have when they go anti Trump, and 31 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: these individuals who know you personally, have spent time with 32 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: you that you would consider like acquaintance friends, and yet 33 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: now suddenly because they hate Trump and you support Trump, 34 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: you're now. 35 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: The devil that is. That is basically what the person 36 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: said on that post. 37 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: I just. 38 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: History like books are going to be written on this 39 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: in the future relating to just how irrational people are. 40 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: And it rings true when it comes to the freak 41 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: out going over the building renovations at the White House, 42 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: which has been going on for you know again, decades 43 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: of presidents have done renovations. 44 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: He but Trump's is a big building. Can't have that. 45 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: So I say all this because the FBI does not 46 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: historically confirm active investigations. Typically, they wait for charges to 47 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: be filed or an arrest is imminent. The FBI spokesperson 48 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: Ben Williamson said that he could not comment on the 49 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: existence of specific investigations, but did say the FBI is 50 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: committed to investigating and pursuing all those who threatened and 51 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: perpetuated acts of violence independent journalists, conservative reporters. They captured 52 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: viral video footage showing demonstrators explicitly threatening violence against President Trump, Republicans, 53 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: and top officials within the Trump administration. Many of these 54 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: civilians excuse me. Many of these individuals, of course, referenced 55 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: the death of Charlie Kirk. The Bureau told The Daily 56 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: Wire that it is aware of multiple instances of these 57 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: individuals explicitly calling for acts of violence. At the No 58 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: Kings protests, there was one man screaming into a bullhorn 59 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: about how ICE agents should be killed. Photos of the 60 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: Denver Communists depicted two individuals promoting violence. One shirt read 61 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: on the individual politicians don't die like they used to, 62 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: featuring a figure with its head blowing up, apparently live 63 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: on camera. Another shirt read make assassinations great again and 64 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: depicts Donald Trump and others being killed The group also 65 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: made and distributed signs that read Charlie Kirk had it coming, 66 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: change my mind, and the group posted them. Our new 67 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: signs mocking Charlie Kirk's assassination and Trump's regimes. Demonization of 68 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: descent and the right wing talking point about paid protesters 69 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: got overwhelming support. They invited dozens of conversations about anti fascism. 70 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: They all alter writ to podcast pipeline and the recent 71 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: attacks on free speech. Lots of protesters went out of 72 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: their way to claim ANTIFA multiple individuals eighty six forty seven. 73 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: Of course, when asked to explain the slogan, one demonstrator 74 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: in New York said kill the SOB, but didn't do 75 00:04:54,720 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: the acronym press to explaine went on to refer to 76 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: the forty seventh president. In Pennsylvania, the state's Democratic Party 77 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: chair in Crawford County was photographed holding a sign that 78 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: called for Trump to be eighty six. In Georgia, social 79 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: media user posted a picture of a man holding an 80 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: eighty six forty seven flag. 81 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: And then you had. 82 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: In Portland, Maine, a protester told the Main Wire in 83 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: an interview that she wants the president to be dead. 84 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: It was her birthday, she shared, and she came out 85 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: to protest the nightmare. 86 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: She says that she has been living under. 87 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 4: So this is your birthday, So you came out on 88 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 4: your birthday? 89 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: You thought it was important? 90 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: Tell me one, absolutely, because I have two little boys 91 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: who deserve a right future. 92 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 2: Of freedom and democracy. 93 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 5: And. 94 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 6: This is a nightmare that I'm living in and I'm 95 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 6: here to make a difference and to be loud. 96 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 7: I'm crown and there's no. 97 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: Other way I'd want to celebrate my birthday. The red bud. 98 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 8: Derrets and my best friend fighting for our country. 99 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: Okay, so for a birthday, President, what do you hope happened? No, 100 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: you wake up tomorrow morning. 101 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 6: I hope that I see the obituary that we're all 102 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 6: waiting for tomorrow. 103 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: That's what I hope for. 104 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, you wishing that President Trump is dead? 105 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 7: Yes? 106 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 107 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 6: Absolutely, absolutely, Okay absolutely. 108 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: Just with the smile on her face, holding a sign 109 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: that had different birthday themed caricatures and emojis and balloons, she. 110 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: Said, I just remember day when I'm dead. 111 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: Well, it's really incredible to me as it is that 112 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: there was a time you could not even go close 113 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: to doing what she did. It was it was just 114 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: beyond the social acceptance pale to the point where that 115 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: would be a threat against the president and you would 116 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: be investigated for it. And now it just happens just 117 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: right out in the open. 118 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: And gee, I wonder what the results are. 119 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: Oh, I know, President Donald Trump, there were two attempts 120 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: on his life and the potential of a third when 121 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: they found that sniper's perch that was conveniently parked where 122 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: his plane lands at mar A Lago. But he's awful, guys, 123 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: because he's renovating the White House. 124 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: Hey, John. One thing I dislike about all the controversy 125 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: about the ballroom is that they totally gloss over the 126 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: practical effects of having a new ballroom, as you know, 127 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: a safe area that you can host important diplomats people 128 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: and security concerns are okay, you know, that's a practical thing, 129 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: instead of what they're saying, have a great day. 130 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: Yea not you're right, But it doesn't matter to those 131 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: on the left and anybody that's complaining about that stuff. 132 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: They just need to be ignored. 133 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: If you have an opinion about the size of the building, 134 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: that's fine. I mean, you're entitled to your opinion. That's 135 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: totally fine. If you don't think it should be renovated, 136 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: that's totally fine. But that's not the way that any 137 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: of this is being framed by the Democrats trying to 138 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: take advantage of the imagery that's attached to it, or 139 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: by the legacy media that's more than happy to go 140 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: and perpetuate the same negativity surrounding these White House demonstrations. 141 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to some shutdown news, and then 142 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: I want to get to this. I want to talk 143 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: about this post by Peggy Flanagin. First off, kind of 144 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: along the same theme, the bias in the media. So 145 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: Speaker Mike Johnson press conference yesterday, another day, another failed vote, 146 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: the shutdown continues, all the proof that you need the 147 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: Democrats causes this shutdown. Listen beyond their own words, right you, 148 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: Senator Chris Murphy. 149 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 7: You need Democratic votes to pass a budget. Everybody's known that. 150 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 7: That's been the rule of the Senate for years. 151 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: And I've got another clip that I'll share with you 152 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: here in just a moment, the Democratic whip the US 153 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: House of Representatives, Catherine Clark. She also said the quiet 154 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: part out loud, But here was Speaker Johnson yesterday. 155 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 10: I will tell you that they're the best evidence I 156 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 10: have for you this morning so that you know that 157 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 10: the Democrats caused the shutdown is because if the Republicans 158 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 10: were responsible for this shutdown, that would lead the news 159 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 10: in every mainstream media outlet every single night. It would 160 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 10: be top fold of every newspaper, on the front page 161 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 10: every single day. Some of the mainstream media outlets aren't 162 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 10: even covering it right now. Why because they're trying to 163 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 10: give cover to the Democrats have caused this. 164 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 11: I mean, look, everybody knows the facts. 165 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 10: The American people are not stupid, and we're gonna here 166 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 10: every day appealing to their common sense and relaying the facts, 167 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 10: and thankfully that those facts are saturating us. 168 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 4: Now. 169 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: I will give some credit where credit is due on 170 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: this next clip, because I believe the Democrats can be 171 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: as open and honest as they want to be regarding 172 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: these issues, even if it sounds horrible, awful and heinous, 173 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: and that their base will continue to go and support 174 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: their efforts. So I'd much rather have them be open 175 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: and honest about what it is they're doing. And this 176 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: is what Catherine Clark, the Democratic whip of the US 177 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: House of Representative said, sitting down for an interview number 178 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,599 Speaker 1: two House Democrat talking about the shutdown. 179 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: Listen to this American people. 180 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 4: First, I mean, I mean again, and I understand the 181 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 4: math and the Senate. I understand the health of your 182 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 4: position from the Democrats. No responsibility on the Democrats, or 183 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 4: at least you don't think that the public will perceive that. 184 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 4: The Democrats response. 185 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 8: I mean, shutdowns are terrible, and of course there will be, 186 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 8: you know, families that are going to suffer. We take 187 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 8: that responsibility very seriously. 188 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: There's there's more to the clip. That part got cut off. 189 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: She goes on to say, but this is one of 190 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: the few leverage times we have all the credit in 191 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: the world. She said what everybody knows. She says, of 192 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: course families are going to suffer, but this is the 193 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: only leverage that they have, while continuing to admit that 194 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: the Democrats are the ones causing the shutdown, I would 195 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: much rather have them just to be open and honest 196 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: like this and let the ships fall where they may, 197 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,239 Speaker 1: because then at least the public has a better contrast, 198 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: a more accurate contrast to what Democrats and Republicans stand 199 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: for than when they try to skirt around the issue 200 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: and do the word salad to get away from what 201 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: they actually feel and what the vast majority of people 202 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: who are exercising common sense already know. 203 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 11: Now. 204 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: Speaker Johnson responded to that clip, I'll share this with 205 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: you coming up. 206 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 2: And then. 207 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: A relatively benign clip from excuse me a post from 208 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: Peggy Flanagan. She wrote, you know why people are poor 209 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: this was on X because they don't have enough money 210 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: to afford their lives. That's it. So another appearance of 211 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: before their lives. We have Keith Ellison using this in 212 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: his campaign announcement for seeking re elections Attorney General. She 213 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: went on to say, we need to put more money 214 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: in Minnesotan's pockets. That starts by raising folks wages. It 215 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: seems like a relatively benign post, but it really isn't. 216 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk more about this coming up, and we'll 217 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: get to your comments from the iHeartRadio app next here 218 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: on Twin City's News Talk. 219 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 8: American People First, I mean, I mean again, and I 220 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 8: understand it was the math in the center. 221 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 4: I understand that your position no responsibility on the Democrats, 222 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 4: or at least you don't think that the public who 223 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 4: receives of the Democrats are response. 224 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 8: I mean, shutdowns are terrible, and of course there will 225 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 8: be you know, families that are going to suffer. We 226 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 8: take that responsibility very seriously. 227 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 7: You need Democratic votes to pass a budget. Everybody's known that. 228 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 7: That's been the rule of the Senate for a year, 229 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 7: and so he requires a negotiation. 230 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: So the second voice you heard there was Senator Chris Murphy. 231 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: The first one was the number two House Democrat on 232 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: the Democrat shutdown. Of course there will be families that 233 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: are going to suffer. It's one of the few leverage 234 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: it leverage times we have, you know, ask Speaker Johnson. 235 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: And the clipping played earlier here on Twin Cities News 236 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: Talk from the sixty five to one carpet, Next Day 237 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: install studios all the proof you need the Democrats caused 238 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: a shutdown. If Republicans had caused the shutdown, that would 239 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: be the top story on every single network. I here 240 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: was Speaker Johnson's response to Catherine Clark, the Democrat whip, 241 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: talking about the suffering of individuals. 242 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 11: The person who can answer that question is is Chuck 243 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 11: Schumer and his Democrat colleagues in the Senate. They've now 244 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 11: voted a dozen times to keep the government closed, and 245 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 11: this is. 246 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 2: Really important, Caitlin. 247 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 11: Today there was a big development on Capitol Hill that 248 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 11: the second highest ranked House Democrat in leadership Whip, Catherine Clark, admitted, 249 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 11: They admitted openly that they have shut the government down 250 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 11: and that they are using hard work in American families 251 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 11: as leverage for what so that they can show a 252 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 11: fight against Trump and also so that they can restore 253 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 11: two hundred billion dollars in free healthcare paid for by 254 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 11: US taxpayers to illegal aliens. Yes, that's in their bill, 255 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 11: and it's just part of the one point five trillion 256 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 11: dollars that they have demanded to spend. 257 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: We're not going to do that. 258 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 11: They know we're not going to do that. And she 259 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 11: said in her own words today quote we know that 260 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 11: families will suffer, but this is only one of only 261 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 11: the leverage times. 262 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 9: That we have. 263 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 11: She said that in her own words, And it was 264 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 11: pretty shocking today hear them say that. They usually don't 265 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 11: say the quiet parts out loud. 266 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 5: So when I listened to these Democrats say, well, some 267 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 5: people are in the sufferer and blah blah blah, Well, 268 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 5: I wonder if that's what Maul told the people too, 269 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 5: as he was starving them to death. 270 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: Again. I'm glad they're being honest. 271 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: It's the first step towards really being able to paint 272 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: the clearest picture possible of the difference right now between 273 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: Democrats in America and Republicans. She's absolutely right, people are 274 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: going to suffer. It is the only leverage that they 275 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: have right now. So is Murphy. This does require Democrats. 276 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: They're the ones that continue to perpetuate this. It is 277 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: the only leverage that they have, So they're making people suffer. 278 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: You cannot avoid that narrative anymore. Peggy Flanigan doesn't want 279 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: people to suffer. Lieutenant governor Senate candidate, she posted yesterday, 280 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: you know why people are poor because they don't have 281 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: enough money to afford their lives. 282 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: That's it. 283 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: We need to put more money in Minnesotan's pockets. That 284 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: starts by raising folks wages. Now, first off, I do 285 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: want to continue to point out that this making it 286 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: easier for people to afford their lives. 287 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: This seems to be a new talking point. 288 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: Either it's being workshopped or Democrats have just decided to 289 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: go with it, because this is now the second time 290 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: in two days that we've seen this and heard this 291 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: this this argument being made. Keith Ellison made it saying 292 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: that you know, he's done a good job of helping 293 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: people to afford their lives, but this post so why 294 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: you know why people are poor because they don't have 295 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: enough money to afford their lives. It's as simplistic as 296 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: it is devious. I have a few examples that I 297 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: thought of based off of this post by Peggy Flannagan. 298 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: You know why people murder because they have a gun, 299 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: So let's take away guns. 300 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: This is where I need your help. I want you 301 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: to come up with your own and help me out. 302 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: You know why people rent because they can't afford to 303 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: buy a home, So let's make it really simple to 304 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: get alone, but only for the for those the Democrats 305 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: can convince that they're victims and then go and exploit, 306 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: not for everybody. 307 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: You know why people of you drugs because they're sad. 308 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: Let's make sure that they have government handouts paid for 309 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: by tax dollars that will force everybody else to go and. 310 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: Pay to make them happy. 311 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: You know why people return to work after time off 312 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: because their employers said they had to. So let's force 313 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: employers to give them more time off. So they can 314 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: be away from work longer, and we'll make the other 315 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: employees pay for it. You know why people are poor 316 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: because they don't have enough money to afford their lives. 317 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: That's it. That's what she wrote. She wrote, that's it. 318 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: That's it, that's all. 319 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: That's the only reason why people are poor. So if 320 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: we just give them more money, if we just raise 321 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: their wages, they won't be poor anymore because it has 322 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: nothing to do with their decision making process. Right, That's 323 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: got nothing to do at all with why people are poor. 324 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 9: Goodness, morning, John. I just heard the benign post about 325 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 9: raising wages in Minnesota, and while I'm all for people 326 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 9: making more money, the best way that the government can 327 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 9: put money back in Minnesota's pockets is not through some 328 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 9: arbitrary wage increase, but by reducing and removing wasteful fraud 329 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 9: and taxes, or maybe being. 330 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 2: Champions of meritocracy. 331 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: I've got a clip that I've been holding on to 332 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: you for a while from Trump that I might share 333 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: with you coming up in a bit here on Twin 334 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: City's News Talk. We got to get to our guest 335 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: here in just a moment. We'll deviate from this and 336 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: return to the topic. 337 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 12: How can the State of Minnesota put more money in 338 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 12: our pockets to spend I'm no Einstein, but I'm thinking 339 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 12: maybe if you cut taxes on us like a good. 340 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: Solution to me. You know why people have to get 341 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: public attorneys because they can't afford other attorneys. We should 342 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: just give them more money to afford other representation, make 343 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: the taxpayers pay for it. It's just again, it is 344 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: as simplistic as it is devious for Peggy Flanning. And 345 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: you know why people are poor because they don't have 346 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: enough money to afford their lives. 347 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 13: Some of you may die, but that's a sacrifice I'm 348 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 13: willing to make. 349 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna get to your comments on this first. 350 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a bit about the Supreme Court ruling 351 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: in favor of transgender athletes in the US powerlifting dispute. 352 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: Of course, Peggy Flannagan famous for the knife on the 353 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: shirt and the words protect trans kids. So we'll talk 354 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: with lawyer extraordinaire Jeff O'Brien next, and we'll get to 355 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: your comments from the iHeartRadio app coming up here on 356 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: Twinsday's news Talk Don't Go Anywhere. 357 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 6: Six five one Carpets plus Pome of the Next Day 358 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 6: install studios on twin Cities AM eleven thirty one O 359 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 6: three point five mad on the pre iHeartRadio app. 360 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: The best audience ever. I have some talkbacks coming up. 361 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: I uh I solicited for you to respond to Peggy Flanagan, 362 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: Lieutenant governor Senate candidate and her post you know why 363 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: people are poor because they don't have enough money to 364 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: afford their lives. 365 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: That's it. 366 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 1: Oh and some of you guys absolutely delivered. We'll get 367 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: to those coming up in in just a moment. A 368 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: lot of people are citing another reason why people might 369 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: be poor. That's because of the poor education that they 370 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: receive here in Minnesota. 371 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 2: Be that is in May. 372 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: There are fantastic teachers that they're doing the best job 373 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: they possibly can under dire circumstances. And we all remember 374 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: that one teacher who made a difference in our life 375 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: when we were going through the education system. They believed 376 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: in us, they challenged us, or made learning fun. You 377 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: can say thank you in a really big way. iHeartRadio 378 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: has their Thank the Teacher program going on right now. 379 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: It's powered by donors. Choose you can nominate an outstanding 380 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: school teacher who's gone above and beyond for their students, 381 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: and with that five thousand dollars to stock up their 382 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: classroom with whatever they need. So help us say thank 383 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: you to the educators that are working hard to shape 384 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: our future. Nominate your favorite teacher now at iHeartRadio dot 385 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: com Forward slash Teachers. So, the Minnesota Supreme Court ruled 386 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: that a us A Powerlifting us APL USAPL discriminated against 387 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: a transgender athlete by preventing him from competing in female 388 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: powerlifting competitions. The ruling issued yesterday the latest development in 389 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: a years long at legal saga. The USAAPL national organization 390 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 1: governed to squat bench press deadlift competitions across the country. 391 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 2: In twenty eighteen, J. C. 392 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: Cooper attempted to compete in a pair of female USAPL 393 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: powerlifting competitions, and during the registration process, Cooper was asked 394 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: to be exempted from the group's no drugs policy in 395 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: order to keep taking spirou no lock tones spiro know 396 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: locktne reduces testosterone, it's barred by the USPL. Cooper said 397 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: to the USPL that they had taken this since he 398 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: was first diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Cooper submitted a note 399 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: from a therapist and said the drug is an essential 400 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: part of treatment for gender dysphoria. Now, the USPL ultimately 401 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: prohibited Cooper from competing in the group's female division, saying 402 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: male to female transgenders are not allowed to compete as females. 403 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, Cooper file the laws it against 404 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: the USPL that they were discriminated against, violating the Human 405 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: Rights Act, and during the legal saga, the USPL argued 406 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: that it did not exclude Cooper because of his status 407 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: as a transgender woman. Instead, ed has said it excluded 408 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: Cooper because he went through puberty as a man and 409 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: has natural strength and performance advantages. Arguing before the Supreme Court, 410 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: the USPL said his policy explains that male to female 411 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: transgender powerlifters are excluded from the women's division because of 412 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: their male physiology. On Wednesday, the seven member Minnesota Supreme 413 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: Court issued a zero to six ruling said the USPL 414 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: had engaged in sexual orientation discrimination in public accommodations against 415 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: to Cooper. However, they ended up kicking this down to 416 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: a lower court joining us Now Lawyer extraordinaor Jeff O'Brien, 417 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: Thank you for allowing me the opportunity there to sort 418 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: of get everybody caught up to speed on this. The 419 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: significance in your mind, Jeff O'Brien over the Minnesota Supreme 420 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: Court ruling in favor of this transgender athlete in this 421 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: powerlifting dispute. 422 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 13: Well, John, thanks for having me on. It's not surprising 423 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 13: that because this case was brought under the Minnesota Human 424 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 13: Rights Act, which of course a couple of years ago 425 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 13: when the DFL controlled everything, you know, and they declared 426 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 13: this a trans sanctuary state. It's the most pro trans 427 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 13: human rights statute in the country. So bringing this under 428 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 13: under that state statute in front of a Supreme court 429 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 13: that is one hundred percent appointed by DFL governors, this 430 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 13: was not a surprising result. It's a little bit if 431 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 13: the one thing you that you mentioned in your in 432 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 13: your talking about the background. The other thing to mention 433 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 13: is the USA power Lifting has a trans division for 434 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 13: trans athletes to participate. But that's but this this athlete show, 435 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 13: this person does to uh to compete as a biological 436 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 13: male against in the in the women's division, which for 437 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 13: these for a lot of us common sense would say, yeah, 438 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 13: that would be a distinct advantage. So, but the only 439 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 13: thing I would say is for for some folks that 440 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 13: that that are listening that are disagree with the ruling, 441 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 13: this is sort of like halftime of the football game. 442 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 13: We still have the federal lawsuit filed by the softball 443 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 13: players over the Champlain Softball the trans softball player playing. 444 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 13: That's in federal court, and that's chart that's alleging that 445 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 13: Minnesota's policies on this violate federal Title nine of the 446 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 13: Civil Rights Acts or the titlene of the Federal Civil 447 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 13: Rights Act. So there is more to come on this. 448 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 13: The issue that was remanded there was a whether or 449 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 13: not there was a legitimate business purpose, you know, whether 450 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,719 Speaker 13: or not that that It sounds like from what I've 451 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 13: read that that there's a lot of folks don't expect 452 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 13: that claim to succeed either, And of course it was 453 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 13: going back in front of this court. Probably not, but ultimately, 454 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 13: you know, there's going to be there's a federal case, 455 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 13: and let's be honest, at some point the United States 456 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 13: Supreme Court is would take this too up and decide 457 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 13: what the what, what's what? 458 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: What the law is on this? 459 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: So is it to perhaps pull back on any criticism. 460 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean, we know the left, we know this court 461 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: is left leaning obviously, but based off of what you 462 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: said in this violating the Minnesota Human Rights Act, I mean, 463 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: should the frustration be more pointed to the Minnesota Human 464 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: Rights Act? And let's so at the decision of the 465 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: Minnesota Supreme Court because there obviously is a lot of 466 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: frustration coming out from you know, many different elected officials locally, 467 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: you know, who believe as I do that you know, 468 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: boy men should not be competing against girls and women's sports. 469 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: So you know, where is the frustration here? Should it 470 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: be on the core for ruling the way that it is, 471 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: or should it really be on what the Minnesota Human 472 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: Rights to Act is it says? 473 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 13: I mean all of the above. I mean, the Supreme 474 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 13: Court is going to interpret the law as it is, 475 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 13: and like I said, the Human Rights Act was amended 476 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 13: to produce this result. 477 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 2: Okay. 478 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 13: You know there's a lot of chatter about you know, 479 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 13: school boards and their policies towards transgender athletes, and this 480 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 13: is exactly the problem is. You have groups like Gender 481 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 13: Justice that will bring losses like that. They have brought 482 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 13: other lawsuits against local school districts over the years to 483 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 13: force a change in their policies if they were trying 484 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:22,719 Speaker 13: to bar transgender athletes and so, you know, until until 485 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 13: the case is decided. That resolved this conflict between Minnesota 486 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 13: law and the Human Rights Act and Title nine in 487 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 13: the Federal Civil Rights Act. This is this is the 488 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 13: environment we live in. 489 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: So do you think if they had gone the other 490 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: way on this, do you think the court would have 491 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: received another challenge basically that they are violating you know, 492 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: relating to the to the Minnesota Human Human Rights Act 493 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: as well. I mean, I would imagine that if the 494 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: Court hadn't gone the way you know that they had wanted, 495 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: that would have been another avenue that those that believe 496 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: that you know, men and boys should be competing in 497 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: girls sports should be allowed to do so. 498 00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: Would you would you expect that? 499 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 4: Well? 500 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 13: I could see that if it had had the court 501 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 13: gone the other way, I could see a movement to 502 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 13: you know, if you know, not even under the current 503 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 13: makeup of the legislature, but if if if we did 504 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 13: go back to a trifecta again, I could see them 505 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 13: attempting to you know, write legislation to overrule the decision, 506 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 13: or even pushing for a constitutional amendment to the state constitution, 507 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 13: so that you know, there there could have been other 508 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 13: end there would have been there would have definitely been 509 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 13: a response had the court gone the other way. 510 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: It's so strange to me when they talk about this discrimination, 511 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: but there's no you know that there doesn't seem to 512 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: be any thought on the discrimination that's taking place of 513 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: the biological females relating to these competitions and how they're 514 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: losing out on, you know, potential victories in their chosen 515 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: competition because males are being allowed to go and compete 516 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: against them. It just seems like the arguments only go 517 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: one way and discrimination is only on the the one 518 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: individual as opposed to the group of individuals that are 519 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: also being discriminated against in these circumstances. 520 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, we're always, you know, when we talk 521 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 13: about these issues, John, we're always talking about biological males 522 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 13: competing in women's sports. We never see biological women competing 523 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 13: in men's sports. You know, you and I both believe 524 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 13: there is a competitive advantage to those athletes. I think 525 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 13: the powerlifting group UH recognize that as well, which is 526 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 13: why they were attempting to find a middle ground by 527 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 13: establishing a division for trans athletes to participate in, so 528 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 13: you didn't have to have this type of competitive disadvantage. 529 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 13: But you're right, you know, you're you're you're costing. You know, 530 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 13: some of these competitions involved not only awards, but you know, 531 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 13: cash prizes. Some levels, you know we're talking about like 532 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 13: high school sports. It can lead to college scholarships. At 533 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 13: the college level, it can lead to you know, endorsements. 534 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 13: There's a lot of opportunities that are being denied biological women, 535 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 13: which which is bizarre a considering how with the purpose 536 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 13: of Title nine was originally and trying to give women 537 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 13: more access to athletics at various levels, that that we're 538 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 13: now seemingly going the opposite way after all these years 539 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 13: of progress. 540 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: Lark chordinaire, Jeff O'Brien, Before I let you go this morning, 541 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: I have another very important question to ask you. Not 542 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: only are your extraordinary lawyer, but you're also probably the 543 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: biggest kiss fan friend of the show. So which way 544 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: does it go on the now unfortunately deceased Ace Freely? 545 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 2: Do you go freely? Or do you go freely? 546 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 13: I've always I pronounced it freely, but I you know, 547 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 13: I think the actual pronunciation. 548 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 4: Is it's Yeah. 549 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 13: It was a sad time. We were hoping to see 550 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 13: them all together one more time with the Kennedy Center 551 00:30:55,200 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 13: Honors and that's not to be. But you figure very 552 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 13: strong musical legacy though. 553 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I know you're a huge fan and lyric shraordinaiy. Hey, 554 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: thank you so much for the time this morning. Body, 555 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: it was good talking with you. 556 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 13: Thanks John. 557 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: So before we get back. 558 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: To Peggy fan Again's post on X, just a couple 559 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: of other school related items, especially regarding Title nine. An 560 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: update form Alpha News, a member of the Prior Lake 561 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: Savage Area School Board says another school board member made 562 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: disparaging remarks that were misleading and violated the principles of 563 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: their ethics code. Lisa Atkinson, the treasurer of the Prior 564 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: Lake Savage Area School Board, has served as a member 565 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: of the bodies ince twenty twenty three. In recent weeks, 566 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: Atkinson has become the primary spokesperson for school board members 567 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: who want Minnesota to comply with Title nine. Last month, 568 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: the federal government, you know, said that Minnesota was in 569 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: violation of Title line by the very issue that we 570 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: were just talking about with lawyer Jeff O'Brien allowing males 571 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: to compete in female sports. In turn, the federal government 572 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: has proposed a resolution in which MDE requires the ms 573 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: eight SL to rescind the guidance to allow males to 574 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: compete in female sports. In September thirtieth, MSHSL and MBE 575 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: were instructed to resolve those violations within ten days. 576 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: They did. 577 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: In Minnesota, attorney general, who supports letting transgender students play 578 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: in sporting events of their choice, declined to provide a 579 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: substantive response. He blamed the shutdown. Atkinson warned the district 580 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: could lose up to three point eight million in federal 581 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: funding and be the subject of litigation if the Title 582 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: nine compliance is not achieved. She continues saying this is 583 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: the one issue that I will not be silent on. 584 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: We cannot turn our back. We cannot turn our back 585 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: on the page on what our moms worked so hard 586 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: to advocate for. After the meeting in which she made 587 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: those comments, one of Atkinson's fellow board members took to 588 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: social media to express her displeasure with Atkinson's comments, saying, 589 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: as a school board director, I do not support Director 590 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: Atkinson making a personal, partisan, uninformed and hateful message discriminating 591 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: against a minority population. This is according to Director Mary France. 592 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: In a comment about the school board meeting on Monday. 593 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: Atkinson told ALFA News that she was truly disheartened by 594 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: Director of France's public comments, which felt like a directed 595 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: dismissal of time Care and the integrity that she has 596 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: poured into the Title nine project. Additionally, Atkins said the 597 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: comments were misleading, violated then the principles of the board's 598 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: ethics policy, and they're ridiculous comments when you consider that. Again, 599 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: there are two sides to this issue, and so when 600 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: we're debating the fairness of either side, there is somebody 601 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: that is going to end up being discriminated against regardless. 602 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: So is it the individual who biologically is a male 603 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: but says that they are a female to be discriminated 604 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: against because of what we used to adhere to in 605 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: societal norms of biology, or are all the female athletes 606 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: going to be discriminated against. That's a decision that's in 607 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: play and all of what we're talking about right now. 608 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: But when you hear from those individuals on the left, 609 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: it is only the side that is most politically viable 610 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: for them, to go and win future elections. That gets 611 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: the attention that they side with and the same thing 612 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: rings true with this story. A social study standards in 613 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: Minnesota undergone a controversial change. That change has not taken 614 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: full effect. One of Minnesota's most widely used a sixth 615 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: grade social studies textbooks is being adjusted to match those standards. 616 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: And what we're talking about are these ethnic studies, this 617 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: new category, This is the Marxist critical race theory ideology 618 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: that is now going to be and is infecting our 619 00:34:55,600 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: public education system. Now the standards will be fully implement 620 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: in the twenty six and twenty seven school year. A 621 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: lot of criticism, rightfully so, coming from Republican legislators, parents 622 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: and school board members. Now, the Minnesota Historical Society is 623 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: revising its self published six grade social studies curriculum to 624 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: correspond with the new state wide standards. It's called Northern Lights, 625 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: The Stories of Minnesota's Past. It's used throughout the state. 626 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: According to MHS, the upcoming third edition of Northern Lights 627 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: will address all required benchmark's history, Civics, geography, economics, and 628 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: ethnic studies. A document about the proposed changes shows that 629 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: every chapter of the Northern Lights curriculum has undergone some 630 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: level of revision. For example, chapter five includes narratives of 631 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: the Ojibwe individuals to improve the balance of feature perspectives. 632 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: Chapter ten would ask students to analyze the motivations of 633 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 1: people immigrating to Minnesota, the obstacles and opportunities they face, 634 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: the impact of settler colonialism and immigration on Indigenous people. 635 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: And meanwhile, in chapter sixteen would expand to include information 636 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: on the gay liberation and Chicano rights movements. The coverage 637 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: of women's involvement in these movements has also increased. It says, 638 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: references to American Indian topics are repeatedly featured in the 639 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: proposed changes to the curriculum. And additionally, a chapter on 640 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: Minnesota statehoods has narratives and perspectives explored in this chapter 641 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: will explore the concept of settler colonialism because all of 642 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: this is specific to progressive views in order to indoctrinate 643 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 1: at the local state level while hiding behind the idea 644 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: and label of inclusivity that specifically ignores less politically democrat 645 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: adventageous demographics. So the Ethnic studies is just this benign 646 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: label they throw on top while they use all of 647 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: these different issues that absolutely benefit democrats only, and they 648 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: just say, we're being inclusive and if you push back 649 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: on this, then you're the horrible racist, you're the bigot 650 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 1: for doing so, when in reality, you can never be 651 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: inclusive of all of the different demographics of all the 652 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: students and all of their backgrounds. So they go and 653 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: they handpick the certain ones that are most again politically 654 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: and democrat advantageous to their demographics. That's what you get 655 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: out of ethnic studies, and unfortunately it's not blocked and 656 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: won't be blocked at least not until we have better leadership. 657 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to this because you guys delivered, 658 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: and we'll get to your comments on this. So Piggy 659 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: Flinnicin posted yesterday on x you know why people are 660 00:37:58,640 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: poor because they don't have enough. 661 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 2: I need to afford their lives. That's it. 662 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: She also wrote, we need to put more money in 663 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: Minnesotan's pockets and that starts by raging raising folks wages. 664 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: And as I mentioned earlier when I brought this up, 665 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: it really is simplistic, but it's incredibly devious. Well, might 666 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 1: as well go and post why do people murder? Because 667 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: they have a gun, Let's take away guns. You know 668 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: why people can't afford gasoline because they have a car. 669 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 2: Let's get people on trains. 670 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: You know why Democrats are always constipated because they're full 671 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: of crap. 672 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 4: Do you know why I drink so much. 673 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 2: Because I'm an alcoholic? Do you know why I speed 674 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 2: because I have a gas pedal? 675 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 4: Morner John? 676 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 9: Do you know why people will support the Conservative Republicans 677 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 9: because they love their country? 678 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 6: People don't have enough money to live their lives because 679 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 6: they don't have enough of your. 680 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 2: Money to live their lives. They need your money, and 681 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 2: the Democrats are good at taking your money. 682 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 4: They give it to the. 683 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 2: People who can't afford their lives because. 684 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 4: They don't want to go out and earn their own money. 685 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 3: Yes, you know why I fly coach because I can't 686 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 3: afford my own private planes. 687 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 2: Yes, it's really boring.