WEBVTT - Sterling -- 10/3/25 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.200 As from a two and zero start to zero and 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:04.840 two with Jake Browning on her center after Joe's toe 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:08.560 became an issue and the Lions coming to town looking 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:10.920 to maul the Whoday tinding up to give us some 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:13.239 time for ESPN Nation. We've had him on the show 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:16.200 a bunch in the past. He covers those who day Bengals, 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:19.840 Ben Baby, how are you? How is everything? And is 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:22.040 this ten and a half point line that I see 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:25.520 favoring the Lions an understatement of this situation? 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:28.720 Yeah, you know, always good to be on with you, Stirling, 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:32.120 And that is a massive line for people who don't know, 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:36.240 a double digit line in the NFL is very uncommon. 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:38.120 I think you have to go all the way back. 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:40.479 For the Bengals to be, you know, especially when you 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:42.080 look at where the Bengals are right now. And the 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:44.920 last time that was the Bengals with this big of 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:48.320 a home underdog was Week eighteen of the twenty twenty season. 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:50.720 Going into that game, the Bengals were without nough Burrow, 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:53.160 the coaching staff was about to get a big shake 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:55.720 up at the end of Zach Taylor's second year, and 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:58.520 they definitely played like it in that game. The Ravens 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:00.360 and at winning thirty eight to three. Before where that 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.120 you go back to the infamous Monday Night football game 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:06.080 in twenty twenty where Ryan Finley somehow beat the Pittsburgh 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:09.039 Steelers and shift at the momentum for the franchise for 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:11.480 the next season. You know that that's the last time 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.520 the Bengals have been this big of an underdog. So 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:15.520 you know, I think it goes to show where they're 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:18.720 at and they're going to need a special performance to 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:20.679 it to somehow find a way to beat the Detroit Lions. 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:22.199 This team. 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:24.520 By the way, Ben Baby from ESPN was sterling on 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:27.560 the Big One talking Bengals and Lions Sunday afternoon at 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:32.640 pay Corps and on seven hundred WLW. You know, it's 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:35.400 not just the offense that has struggled. This defense, which 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.120 we thought was so much better and look pretty solid 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:40.560 the first two weeks, seemed to the last couple of 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:44.480 weeks finds itself rated about the worst in the NFL. 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:46.399 I mean, it seems like that the boat is leaking 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:47.640 from a whole lot of holes. 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:50.760 Yeah, you know, I think the big thing with the defense, 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:53.000 and you talk folks inside the building, I think there's 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.240 an understanding that the offense has really put the defense 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:57.160 in a bad position. 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:58.160 Now, I think. 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:01.720 Everyone will also say the defense needs to create more turnovers. 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:05.080 We heard Al Golden talk about that this week. In 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.559 his first year's defensive coordinator, it's been hard to gauge 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:09.880 kind of where things are at because that offense has 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.320 struggled so much. The defense been on the field for 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.799 so many snaps. They did a good job relatively in 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.400 the second half against Denver early and getting stops with 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.560 the offense just could not capitalize. That Minnesota game was 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.200 really spiraled from them. But you know, you go back 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.360 and look, I think they were fortunate in those first 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.000 two games to come away with wins because you know, 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:31.440 you had some drops, you had some ill timed, you know, 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:34.040 mistakes from the other team. You see the missfield goals 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:37.000 against Cleveland, and maybe if those things don't happen, you're 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:38.560 staring at zero to four instead of. 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:39.760 Two and two right now. 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.680 And so you know, maybe that is more of an 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.520 indicative of where this team's at. But you know, I 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:47.840 think that we'll get a better glimpse as to what 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.240 this defense will look like once the offense gets rolling, 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:52.480 if and whenever that actually does happen. 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.239 What do you think the biggest problem is? I understand 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:59.280 obviously that this offense has been built around Joe Burrow. 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.440 We saw Jake Browning step up in the past. That's 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:03.280 why he got the deal that he did to stay, 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.440 because he proved himself to be able to get it 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.400 done in in a tenuous situation, which is probably the 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:10.800 best way to describe what he's walked into here again 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:15.440 in this but he's got more interceptions than touchdowns and 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:19.760 adjusting this to what Jake does. How challenging is that? 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.440 Is that the biggest problem? Or are there just that 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.480 many holes in what we thought was going to be 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:28.240 this offense of power? 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.280 Yeah, you know, I think it's it's it's hard to 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.519 say what exactly is going wrong here, right, I think 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:36.200 it's unfair to say it's all on Jake Browning. You 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:38.720 know that they came in in twenty twenty three when 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:40.640 he when he came in place of Joe Burrow, they 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.720 looked serviceable. They were still able to find wins. And 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:45.480 you know, I think this year when you look at 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.520 the splits, you know, the inability to convert on third 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:50.400 downs has been a problem, and ability for Jake to 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.840 do well when pressured. That's been that's been a big 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.000 concern this season. I think that's where that area where 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:56.800 he has to get better. 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:58.160 But also, you know, you. 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:01.720 Have to find ways to find better wins, easier you know, 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:03.960 easier completions. Maybe for Browning, see if you can get 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.880 him some good one on one situations with Jamar Chase. 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:10.600 You know, now that the Bengals face two challenging fronts 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.640 in what Denver in Minnesota have, can they find a 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:15.960 more advantageous position against the Lions. 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.680 You know, we'll see. I think there's some confidence. 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.599 That they will be better this week, but you know, 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.520 I think they do need a good showing, you know, 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:26.000 regardless of whether they win or lose, to give them 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.920 a little bit of confidence moving forward, because right now, 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.480 I mean this is so one if you statistically, one 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.720 of the worst stretches in franchise history, what happened these 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:37.240 last couple of weeks getting out you know, our lopside 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.760 that these results have been and so if you're able 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:41.960 to get some momentum, I think that's going to be huge. 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:43.960 And you know, it's as simple as maybe running the 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:46.120 ball and in finding easy completions. 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:48.440 Talking to Ben Baby for me ESPN Nation about Bengals 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.240 Lions Sunday Lions three and one. The Who Day at 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:53.400 five hundred and two and two started two and zero 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.840 zero and two with Jake Browning. It's not all on him. 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:00.560 I absolutely one hundred percent agree with you. Is you 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:05.200 look at what they're facing with the Lions, do you 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.920 see weaknesses or they are there opportunities for this Bengals 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:11.680 team to find a way not just to be competitive, 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:13.960 but where they have an opportunity really to send the 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:18.040 Lions back home to Detroit up seventy five as losers. 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:20.160 I think that if. 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:21.880 You're able to go out and jump on them early, 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:23.640 if you're able to you know, if the Bengals are 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:25.080 able to win the toss, it might be as easy 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.120 as that and almost like you're in cricket, you know, 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.200 when in the toss gives you a great chance of winning. 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:30.200 Here it's a little bit different. 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.680 But the Bengals can win the toss, go out and 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.320 score a touchdown early, you know, get the lines and 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.720 make some mistakes or force some mistakes and be able 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:39.520 to play with the lead. I think that's your best 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:43.000 chance against them, you know, Jamar Chase and t Higgins, 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.240 if they can find a way, find a way to 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:48.440 be involved against a line secondary that's been a little 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:50.840 susceptible at times. You know, I think if they can 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:52.760 find a way to maybe match up against carry On 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.839 Arnold a little bit, that would be a prime matchup 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.159 for them. When you look at the numbers, you know, 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:00.640 so I think it's gonna be that's your best bet, 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.120 you know. Otherwise, you know you're looking at a Lion's 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:06.600 offense that's really doesn't have any weaknesses. Jared Goff playing 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.680 really well. I'm on Ross Saint Brown, two time All Pro. 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:11.919 You look at the running backs they call him Sonic 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:13.800 and Knuckles and David Montgomery. 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.800 A local guy, and Jamior Gibbs. 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.400 You know that there's really not a lot of weaknesses 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.159 on that line's front, and really in the way that 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:24.160 they use Pine Soul, you know, is really unique they 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.400 view him. I remember talking to Mario Cristobal, who coached 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.680 him in college, and said, you know, Pena is a 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.520 playmaker in our mind. You know, we go out and 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:33.880 we will scheme out plays knowing that he's going to 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:35.480 be you know, he's going to be blocking either in 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:37.159 the run of the pass game and so you know, 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.039 he I think that's going to be an interesting magic 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.880 to watch as well. So you know that that Bengals defense, 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:43.719 they know what they're going to have their hands full 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:44.680 on Sunday afternoon. 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:48.960 Ben, when you you mentioned sul how irregular in outstanding 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:51.880 is penna when you describe what you just did about 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:54.000 what he's capable of doing, because you don't hear that 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:55.520 a lot about tackles like that. 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.279 Yeah, you know, I think that makes him unique is 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.920 that he's got great feet and is really able to 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:03.679 do so much in both the run in the past 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.280 game you're able to pull him and just because he 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:07.240 moves so well. 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:07.800 Uh. 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:10.760 I think it's why that conversation back in twenty twenty 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.360 one about you know, should you draft Jamar Chase, should 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:14.360 you take in a sool? 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:16.520 You know, what is the best option to go there? 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.160 I think for this offense, obviously Jamaar and kind of 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.720 the reps that he had with Joe Burrow got going 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:23.680 back for the days at LSU, that was a no brainer. 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.480 You see the growth that Jamar Chase has had this year, 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:28.880 and that's been big. But also I mean you go 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.000 look at it. You know, the Bengals that paid, you know, 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:33.560 forty million dollars, And this is something that is interesting 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.800 to think about. Well, the Bengals have paid forty one 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.240 million dollars for a receiver. They paid a lot of 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.520 money for Tea Higgins at well three and one fifteen 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.800 four and one fifteen uh for him, and they just 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:45.840 haven't been able to get them involved. And when you 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:48.880 spend that kind of money, you ideally want those receivers 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.000 to be to be a major impact. And I don't 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.480 think it's a fault of Jamar and te you know, 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:55.239 when you is it too dependent? 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:55.720 Sometimes? 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:57.119 I think you know, it's going to be a question 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.320 on this wide receiver market moving forward. You know, do 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.840 teams want to continue to give that kind of money 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:06.960 to receivers knowing how dependent they are on targets and 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.840 other parts of the offense. But you know that that's 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:12.400 kind of that's a that's a side discussion. But yeah, 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.160 so well, definitely very good. It does a lot of 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.080 great things for that line's offensive line. 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.680 ESPN Nations that Ben Baby was stirling on seven hundred 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:24.360 WLW talking Bengals and Lions. What have I not asked? 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:27.080 I always liked to ask because You're in and around 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:29.960 this organization on the ground all the time, and I 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.040 know enough to know I don't know enough, but there 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.280 are elements of this that are sort of under the 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:38.920 radar that really make a huge difference other than the obvious. 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:41.840 Yeah, you know, I think the big question is going 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.600 to be where does this team go long term? You know, 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.240 can they find a way to kind of rally a 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.120 little bit? I think these next couple of weeks are 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.760 going to be tough. You've got Detroit coming home at 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:54.120 home and then green Bay a really good team. We're 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.160 going to be a contender to represent the NFC of 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:57.240 the Super Bowl this year. 0:08:58.080 --> 0:08:58.320 You know. 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.520 So if you go and lose those games and you 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:02.520 go you two and four after going to and Oher, 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:04.640 you know, where does this thing go? I think if 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.040 you're the Bengals, you want to have some kind of 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.679 resolve because skeets soften up in the middle of the 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.520 year and you ideally will have a chance to reel 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:14.600 off some wins get back to five hundred if they 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.280 lose these next couple of games, Can Jack Taylor keep 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.120 this team together? Can they continue to believe that they 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:23.280 can be competitive and give hope that maybe if Joe 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.240 Burrow gets healthy at the end of the year, they 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.520 get sneak in the playoffs in salvage some of this season. 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:30.439 I think that's all stuff that you want to watch. 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.760 And then, you know, I think that's going to be 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:34.960 fascinating because when you lose the way you have the 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:36.199 last couple of weeks. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.080 You wonder what kind of toll that takes on a 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:38.640 locker room. 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:42.640 So far, haven't seen any any big issues, but I think, 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.520 you know, those things always can develop the more season 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:46.400 starts to unravel. 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:49.720 Now in baseball they call it a grind. The NFL is, 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.120 you know, even worse when it comes to that going 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:55.120 through it. Not as long, but certainly brutal physically. And 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.760 you just talked about the toll of facing these tougher 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.480 teams early, just struggling to get through that. And that's 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:03.080 what Jake Browning in that offense a couple of years ago, 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.160 was somehow able to do, is find their way to 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.600 get to the open space where they could get some 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:11.600 wins behind them, and then if Joe is able to 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.600 come back with the toe being in a better place 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:16.240 to maybe make a run down the way. 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:18.720 But I get that's a lot of ifs. 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:22.960 Yeah, absolutely, and so you know, first things first, you know, 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:26.160 seeing if they can just even look remotely competitive. The 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:27.839 betters do not think that this is going to be 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:29.520 a close game. At ten and a half, might as 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.240 well be one hundred in the NFL. And so, you know, 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.640 we'll see what kind of resolved the Bengals continue to 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:36.640 have as the season, you know, rolls on. 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.880 I'm still trying to figure out how they generally are 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:43.760 so good at calling these lines overall, because it can 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.720 be frustrating. Is it really possibly that big of a margin, 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.840 you know, on the outset, but they weekend week out, 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.000 it seems like they're pretty close to being on it. 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:53.480 How is that possible? 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:56.200 Well, when you've got a lot of money at stake, 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:58.000 I think you generally try to be good at this. 0:10:58.080 --> 0:10:59.760 And I think over the years they've. 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:01.800 Got it down sien a point off here, a point 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.120 off there, even a half a point. You've got a 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.720 lot of money writing on it, So I think, you know, ultimately, 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:08.679 I think a general rule of thumb is that when 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:11.000 people are paid to do something for a living, they 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:12.719 generally tend to be pretty good at it. 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:14.880 Fair enough, and you are good at what you do, 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:18.040 Ben Baby ESPN Nation seem all over ESPN here in 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:20.480 ESPN fifteen thirty and kind enough to give us some 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.440 time here on a Friday night, the weekend with Sterling. 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:24.000 Thank you, my man. 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.040 I hope you enjoyed the rest of it, and hopefully Sunday, 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.120 maybe the Bengals will surprise everybody. 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:30.680 Yeah, sounds good. Thanks Sterling, take. 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.640 Care of yourself more Sterling coming back. Seven hundred WLW. 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:39.120 Thanks seven hundred WLW Sterling back seat red Someone twenty 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.959 twenty five season in the books. We'll spend some Friday 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:44.520 nights together, at least, I think so, Drew, keep me 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.440 in line, mister Western Heidi. We got Lee Malwood news 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.959 coming up in a while, Jack Crumley before that, about 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.840 four and a half minutes, and former head of political science, 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:56.760 doctor Donna Schleck at Wright State going to join us now, 0:11:56.800 --> 0:12:00.120 Professor Mayer to talk about what rumblings now you've heard 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.040 in the news. You will get another update in about 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:06.760 four minutes. Is Israel and Hamas apparently very close, maybe 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:10.960 possibly to a peace deal maybe, so we'll pick her 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.520 brain about that and the government shutdown of course that 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:16.079 we're all navigating it, and I realize it's Friday, and 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.040 part of me wants to just goof off, have fun 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:21.199 and put that serious stuff on the back burner. But 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.520 we'll get some details on it because it doesn't matter. 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:27.800 Also movie stuff, Kevin Carr Fat Guys at the movies, 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:31.319 he also confining silver Gecko on Substack, will join us 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.880 talk about the new deal e Leonardo DiCaprio movie, some 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.200 other stuff going on, and a lot of other ground 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.520 to cover as well. We're short on time here before 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:43.000 the news, but I want to mention this because it's 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.360 I had the I don't know if i'd say it's 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.520 the weirdest conversation. I have a lot of weird conversations, 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:56.679 I believe it or not. But shopping yesterday, I grab 0:12:56.760 --> 0:13:02.800 some Halloween candy. Usually I have leftovers, which I consume 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.040 throughout the year because we don't get a lot of kids, 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:08.880 which is fine, So I buy candy that I like 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.120 that I want, so I'm not stuck with crap that 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:14.040 I don't like and I don't want, which maybe is 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:17.120 a bad choice because I'm the one eating most of it. However, 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.120 I'm talking to a buddy of mine and he tells 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:23.000 me that he's put the kaibash on the trick or 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.200 treating at their house. Not for his kids, which are 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.360 a little bit older now like in high school, there's 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.000 are probably out the stealing bags. 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:30.839 No, I'm just kidding. 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:36.520 His kids are upstanding of fine citizens, probably, But he 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:40.040 tells me that it's too expensive, that he's seen the 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.840 price of candy go up and he's done with it 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:46.000 because of the chocolate prices and stuff along those lines. 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:47.720 So a little later we'll get into that too. 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:48.680 I don't know. 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:52.760 We hear mixed signals about the economy, how it's doing 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:53.040 and not. 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:53.719 What do they say? 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.280 It's a recession if it's your neighbor that's in trouble 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.080 having problems, it's depression. If it's you that are having 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.920 personal problems when it comes to money, stuff and jobs 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:05.679 and whatnot. But when people are cutting back on the 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.440 idea a candy for the kids at Halloween, I start 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:10.400 to scratch my head and go, is you know, my 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:15.359 neighbor just getting old and crodgety or whatever, or they legitimately, 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:19.520 you know, maybe touched upon and scratched upon a real 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:22.440 itch that's out there, which is people sort of not 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.120 wanting to cough up the cash because maybe these are 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:27.400 harder times and some would think or hope or want 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:30.640 in the midst of everything going on, including the government 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:32.640 shutdown that we're in the midst of right now. 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:34.240 So we'll touch on that. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.440 I'm just wondering because I mean, I got my receis, 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:41.400 I got some TUTSI rolls, and I got some blowpops. 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.800 Those are all things that I like that I understand 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.520 that I can appreciate. I don't do the smarties, I 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.440 don't do all the weird wax candies. I spend good 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:51.560 money on the candy because I know what I like, 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:56.560 and I'm tired over the years of accumulating candy when 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:59.000 the kids haven't shown up, even going back to COVID 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:02.360 times when I get the got the big PVC pipe 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.880 tube that I was able to toss some candy through 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.400 that so I would not put the kids in danger 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.000 of them and me because they're they're germ monsters generally, 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.080 and very few kids came then. And then I just 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:17.360 had extra PVC pipe, which I mean, you can never 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.160 have too much of. That just didn't think in case 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:22.080 things go weird or whatever else. So we'll touch on 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:24.200 that a bit later. I just don't know how bad 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:26.840 does it have to be for someone to be in 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:30.280 a situation when you're like, I'm not buying candy. 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:30.480 For the kids. 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.960 My guess is they'll be talking more hooligans and vandalism 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:38.800 and windows, soapd and toilet papering of trees and houses 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.880 as a result of that. If kids still do that 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:45.920 type of thing today's world, kids might end up getting 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:49.520 shot they start tpeeing and soaping windows. But when I 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:53.080 was coming up, it was a very common circumstance, not 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.720 even just Halloween time, just because kids were bored and 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.160 you know, out after high school football, which we'll give 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.240 you some scores by the way, because it is football 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:04.520 Friday night, straight away, the latest on the shutdown, what 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.320 could be a broker peace deal or at least the 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:11.720 very beginning of talk of maybe some success in that 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:15.200 route with Jack Crumbley in the news and the other side, 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.200 former head of political science at Wright State, doctor donnah 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:21.120 Schlaheck joins me as well, it's a Friday night, Stirling, 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.000 glad you're along. It's a beautiful night, warmer than normal, 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.760 not feeling like football weather, not feeling like fall, but 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.320 it is just the same. On the home of your reds, 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.760 and of course the whoday they play here seven hundred 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:36.560 WLW shaken. 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:37.400 I don't know. 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.960 After this period of time there is talk in Israeli 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:45.320 and Hamas peace steel, or at least rumblings of Hamas 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.280 accepting what terms were given them. 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:49.760 Is a part of that. 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:53.120 Settlement with Israel with the United States helped us some 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:55.520 insight with that, as well as a government shutdown. If 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:57.560 you hadn't noticed the government shut down, A lot of 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:00.680 people are a region right Air Force base up in 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:04.280 Dayton Fairborne, right near Wright State, by the way, the 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.720 largest employer in the region, one of the biggest in 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.240 Ohio for that matter, certainly a lot of people dealing 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.880 with that and the ramifications in the days ahead. Former 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.720 had a political science at Wright State, now professor Meredith. 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:19.199 She is a Cincinnati kid, always lending great perspective and 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:21.239 insight to what's going on in the world and what 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:23.879 matters to us here in the Tri State. Is doctor 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.840 Dona Schlank. Welcome back to the Big one. Seven hundred WLW. 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:31.280 How's it going, hi, Sterling. It has been quite a day, 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:32.160 hasn't it. 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:37.600 It certainly has. Let's start with Israel Hamas in that circumstance, 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.720 because initially I get all these push messages to my 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:45.040 random device is saying, hey, there's a deal that's been broken, 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:48.600 but it's not actually fully done. And we've talked for 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:52.240 however long this has been since October seventh, twenty three, 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:57.760 in the horrible events that took place there with the 0:17:57.840 --> 0:17:59.800 kidnapping and the murders of all those people in the 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:04.359 version into Israel, and what's gone on subsequent to that, 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:08.320 but for so many years before that, do you think 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:12.320 that this is a legitimate, sustainable circumstance that we're talking 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.919 about with peace as these deals in details of this 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:16.720 are coming out. 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:24.359 Guardedly, guardedly hopeful, but it is a very important step. 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:28.240 It also coincides with the expected soon to be Peace 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:31.199 Prize nominations, but we'll we'll see what happens. 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:31.840 In Sweden. 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:37.880 The signal from Hamas was pretty plain on yes, all 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:41.679 forty eight of the last of the hostages, about twenty 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:45.760 of whom are still living with that big butt, right, 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:49.440 that's the condition and literally specified the need to meet 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:54.440 certain conditions on the ground unspecified, but one might think 0:18:55.080 --> 0:19:00.000 it may take them some time, certainly before the Sunday 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:03.720 deadline that President Trump had previously said, but it may 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:08.280 take some time for them to bring those hostages and 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:12.560 the remains of the hostages who've died in captivity. Two 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:17.960 years of this sterling two years. Israeli public opinion is 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:23.720 all over the place too. But it would appear that 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:27.440 they have said yes to the hostages, which is their 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:32.240 massive point of leverage, right yes to the hostages release, 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:37.360 which will bring many Palestinians released in many detainees, probably 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:40.560 over one thousand to be released as well. Those take 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:44.240 a little bit of time to coordinate. But what I 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:49.040 find really interesting in this package that President Trump has 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:53.520 put forward, and Hamas says they're accepting the first stage 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:56.600 of it. But you know who, Tony Blair is the 0:19:56.720 --> 0:20:01.520 Prime minister, former Prime Minister's one who helped negotiate the 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:05.960 end of terrorism and violence in Northern Ireland and put 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:10.119 together an amnesty package. You lay down your arms, you 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:14.199 sign an oath to renounce violence. You can stay or 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:19.600 you can peaceably leave. So they've actually announced that component 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:24.440 of this agreement as well. This is more, much more 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:28.800 than we have seen in the past, and President Trump 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:33.679 has weighed in with a very very unequivocal signal to 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:39.359 Israel the bombing in Gaza has to stop immediately, like now. 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:44.240 So that's a very very strong signal from President Trump. 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:48.600 The Arab States are lining up to make arrangements for 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:55.000 probably a primarily Muslim or Arab force that will enter 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:59.880 the area to begin the disarmament process as well. Peace 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:03.600 are beginning to move at this point in time, and 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:06.720 it may look really slow, but it strikes me that 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:10.960 they're moving very quickly. That two year anniversary I think 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:14.800 was something that President Trump did not want to see 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:20.320 happen without some movement. So I am very impressed with 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:23.159 what Tony Blair has brought to the table. You know, 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:28.359 so many more complicated plans and negotiations to follow, but 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:33.720 this scenario changes dramatically. If those hostages are released, then 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:39.040 I'm pretty confident that the Israeli forces will begin to 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:43.240 pull back. It won't happen, you know, fast enough to 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:47.840 meet hum often the Palestinian people. I do believe that 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:53.080 the Palestinian population in Gaza overwhelmingly wants to see this 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:56.159 cease fire and an end to the conflict. We have 0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:59.680 no way of knowing right what public opinion there is, 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:06.240 but sterling more happening in a positive direction, with all 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:09.320 the caveats that we have to put on this negotiation. 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:11.800 It was a yes, It was a yes. 0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:13.720 But this is a. 0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:21.880 Really complicated not too untie, and forty eight families in 0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:26.360 Israel now probably have more hope than they have had 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:31.240 in the past two years. In total, American leadership here 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:35.320 to bring this to the point where it can happen 0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:38.480 if the principles are willing, you know, to take some 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:44.800 risks on both sides. This despite the difficulties of the 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:47.479 shutdown and the government here, this is one of the 0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:50.960 you know, the most hopeful developments. It started on Monday 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:54.800 there stood President Trump alongside Benjamin not in Yejo saying 0:22:55.119 --> 0:23:00.360 he accepts these conditions and having gone, you know, much 0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:03.840 further in the end the war process than many of 0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:08.359 many of us thought possible. So this is a Trump plan. 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:14.159 It's incredibly complicated. It has not been fleshed out nearly 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:18.760 in the detail that it will require. I'm impressed that 0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:23.720 they brought somebody on board with hands on experience. How 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:28.280 do you stop the shooting, you know, disarm the combatants, 0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:31.280 and then lay the groundwork for a future state where 0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:35.280 people live in peace. Tony Blair actually has that experience. 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:38.399 I know he's been criticized in the media lately because 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:41.600 of his roles supporting the US in the Iraq War, 0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:45.480 But I think the valuable lesson is what they did 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:49.880 in Northern Ireland. That was nineteen ninety eight when those 0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:52.520 piece accords were announced. I had the good luck of 0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:55.800 being in New York at the time and literally sitting 0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:58.720 in the company of the Consul General for Northern Ireland 0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:02.000 and the President of Shin Fame who'd been working on 0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:03.680 it for years. 0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:06.760 Right now, the troubles on for an extremely long period 0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:09.439 of time. I know there's been some rumblings there of 0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.240 some of that coming back, but nothing like the horrible 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:14.160 circumstance that was in Northern Ireland. 0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:16.720 UH for so long. 0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:22.400 Nothing there there. Northern Irish Parliament is open, they've been 0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:26.800 holding elections. The shootings, the bombings in the ira and 0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:33.760 the Protestant paramilitaries put their arms beyond access. Amnesties were 0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:37.480 issued and do you know what party will head the 0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:42.359 Catholic community. It will be Shin Fame, which used to 0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:46.120 be called the political arm of the ira UH. And 0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:50.200 just it tells us that Humus is not going away forever. 0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:55.960 They haven't promised that, but sterling more light, more hope 0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:59.200 than we have seen in the in this situation. Uh, 0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:04.480 the President has put a pretty impressive package together, lined 0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:09.480 up every single important Arab and Muslim state to be 0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:11.560 part of trying to bring it to reality. 0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:13.200 That's a lot. 0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:16.360 Now, it's good, It's a whole lot. And now it's 0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:20.080 going to require a really deep breath and some real 0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:24.000 courage on the part of both the Israelis and the 0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:28.960 Palestinians to see if they can change their destiny. It 0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.600 looks like they may have that opportunity. 0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:34.040 Talking to the former head of political science at Wright 0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:39.080 State University, doctor Donna Schlek, now Professor Amerita from Cincinnati, here, 0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:45.800 this Israeli Hamas issue and in that Middle Eastern turmoil circumstance, 0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:48.960 I mean it has gone on for much longer, preceding 0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:52.600 the hostage taking and the killings and the murders and 0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:56.719 the incursion into Israel that happened on the seventh of October. 0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:59.919 So the question is, I guess you know, because initial 0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:03.520 it was Amas has to go. And you mentioned something 0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:06.919 very interesting in that no one really knows the people 0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:09.440 on the ground and how they feel about it. But 0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:13.800 they've been effectively, in so many cases displaced, killed, and 0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:16.600 you name it, for all this period of time, effectively 0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:20.160 bombed back into the Stone Ages. I can't imagine anyone 0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:23.080 living through that, amongst the rubble of all of that, 0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:26.520 not wanting to find any way possible to get to 0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:30.720 some place a piece in whatever normalcy can be, because it's 0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:33.480 going to take decades for that to be built back up, 0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:36.440 to be a liveable place of some kind. 0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:41.080 In any way, Yeah, it is going to be one 0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:47.480 big infrastructure project. There are going to be jobs, jobs, 0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:52.520 jobs for Palestinians to rebuild their country. The Arab States 0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:57.440 want peace in the region. President Trump's Abraham Accords may 0:26:57.480 --> 0:27:01.840 be extended much more broadly. The remedy in Northern Ireland 0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:06.800 was get them to stop shooting, begin the disarmament, and 0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:11.400 then begin an economic development program, because if you can 0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:16.160 offer young people some hope, perhaps a job, a family, 0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:21.760 et cetera, they will not be inclined to take the 0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:24.359 twenty dollars a month stipe then that the IRA may 0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:28.400 have been offering, or whatever Humus is paying their supporters. 0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:32.840 Now I wonder we've got five or ten thousand humaff fighters. 0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:38.560 This disarmament process will be fascinating to watch. It's going 0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:43.400 to be labor intensive. President Trump has promised American support 0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:47.400 in the role, but hands on on the ground. This 0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:53.239 needs to be perhaps the biggest collaborative, constructive project that 0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:57.280 the leading Arab states in the region have ever engaged in. 0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:01.920 It is, you know, talk about turning a major corner, 0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:08.520 addressing a continuing grievance and source of violence in their neighborhood. 0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:13.240 And for israelis the end of the war, the return 0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:17.000 of the hostages, but perhaps a different way of living 0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:20.199 in the future as well. A lot of risks, a 0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:24.480 lot of distrust, massive amounts of distrust on both sides. 0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:29.200 And yet the desire and the plan that the President 0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:34.040 and his team will be fleshing out and Arab states, 0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:36.800 the wealthy oil states are going to be asked to 0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:38.240 underwrite a lot of this. 0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:41.520 What does that mean to cost of fuel by the way, 0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:44.920 because I mean, you know, will they increase their cost 0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:47.320 or price to us? And I mean that's a lot 0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:51.840 of economy conversation there. But even though we produce and 0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:54.360 have more than basically anyone on the planet at this point, 0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:57.760 we still get petroleum products from that part of the 0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:00.360 world as well. If they're trying to use that money 0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.240 or use those bits of fuel and so forth in 0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:06.600 that process to generate the wealth necessary to build back 0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:09.640 from what is effectively the stone age in this process, 0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:12.160 who's going to pay for that in the end? I mean, 0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.200 it's whoever purchases the fuel source. 0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:19.720 Yes, I think Americans are always interested in that question 0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:22.719 about the price of petroleum. But the last time the 0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:26.600 oil producing states in the region met, they decided to slightly, 0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:32.640 you know, hold constant or slightly increase their production, trying 0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:35.640 to put more pressure on the Russians as well, who 0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:40.520 are very cash desperate in selling their petroleum. So the wealthy, 0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:45.240 wealthy Arab states have those massive funds that they can 0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:47.400 fall back on if the price of oil has to 0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:52.520 come down. Their economies are not like the Russians are 0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:56.120 today dependent upon you know, the income on it almost 0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:59.520 on a daily basis, from the price of oil. To 0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:03.240 righte the world's leading producer is the United States, which 0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:07.400 is on a path under President Trump's leadership to continue 0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:11.960 to increase production. So when the market is soft and 0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:16.040 full of oil, the price tends to come down. And 0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:21.080 when the area is not ripe for another major violent upheaval. Again, 0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:24.720 the price can remain firm if going to the you know, 0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:28.080 the lower side as well. That is one price that 0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:32.440 they are able to pay. But the projects to rebuild 0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:36.760 Gaza in ten years, we may not be able to 0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:41.040 recognize the region it. I mean, it has the human capital, 0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:43.680 it has the potential. The money is going to come in. 0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:50.600 If the violence stops, so many things become possible. And 0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:52.920 then this is the Trump plan, that is, that's what 0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:55.040 it's going to be known as. If it fails, if 0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:59.120 it succeeds, and there's so many ways it can go 0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:04.120 off the rail. But we haven't seen process progress like 0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:07.480 this for two years now. Although we've been hopeful this 0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:12.400 is it's a substance's turn, and Hamas has actually said, yes, 0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:15.920 the hostages will be coming out, maybe within a week. 0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:20.400 I think it will be fairly soon. Once this thing begins, 0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:25.040 I know the Americans will want to keep the process going, 0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:29.000 accelerate it, get more planning in place for what comes 0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:33.080 after the IDF withdrawal, for example. So there's going to 0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:36.880 be a lot of development opportunities, lots of contracts, lots 0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:41.960 of ways to attract young Palestinians into rebuilding their country 0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:44.640 rather than having to go out and die for it. 0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:47.200 Doctor Donish likes the former head of political science at 0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:50.880 Wright State and now Professor Mariager. Talking about this Israeli 0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:55.400 hamas Trump broker peace deal is planned, it seems to 0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:59.000 be moving a little bit closer to fruition. You mentioned 0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:02.120 something interesting about the rebuilding. You mentioned about the cost 0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:05.120 sharing with that of course for those other countries in 0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.120 the region to go along with it, which reminds me 0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:10.960 then after say World War Two, the Marshall Plan and 0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:13.600 everything that went into helping to build back Germany and 0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:19.280 so forth in a little different circumstance. As devastated as 0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:23.120 it was societally speaking, I mean, there is nothing much 0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:24.960 left at all in Gaza. 0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:25.800 I mean it is. 0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:33.360 It looks like a moonscape, almost in an uninhabitable circumstance. 0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:36.480 So every element of society, it appears, is going to 0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.040 have to somehow be brought back. And something leading from 0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:43.600 the initial conversation is this conflict escalated as it is 0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:47.600 on October seventh, October eighth of twenty twenty three, is 0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:52.200 that with people suffering through what it has become, how 0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.880 do you keep those that have survived it, who have 0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:59.800 had to endure it multiple generations, to not have that bitterness, 0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:04.680 that resentment, that a bloodlust and hunger for retaliation for 0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:08.080 what has come to be their reality. There be it 0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:11.000 towards Omas, towards Israel, towards the West, or otherwise. 0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:18.280 And that is why the prospective hope of rebuilding, rebuilding 0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:21.440 something better for the children that have had to live 0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:24.400 through the last two years, the families, the people who 0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:28.200 have fled, et cetera. When that element of hope for 0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:32.520 something better, and that's what has been put on the table. 0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:37.520 Willhammad survived this, Will they reappear later under a new 0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:41.680 name and as a political party, could very well happen, 0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:44.960 but something's been put on the table. All the Arab 0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:48.680 states who had previously supported, you know, the arms struggle 0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:52.240 for a free and an independent Palestine, these are the 0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:55.920 people who will be writing the checks and you know, 0:33:56.040 --> 0:34:00.520 letting the contracts for all of the construction that will 0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:04.560 have to happen. It will be a massive project. There 0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:09.440 will be full employment and that's what will squeeze Humas 0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:13.400 and their appeal out. So how it worked in Northern 0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:18.120 Ireland and we've had going on thirty years now of peace. 0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:19.000 Is it perfect? 0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:19.759 No? 0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:24.520 Do people live together in complete comfort? No? No, there 0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:27.799 are still a lot of remaining tensions. The Irish and 0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:31.680 the Palestinians, you know, they have those long histories and 0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:35.080 they're always willing to recount them for you. But in 0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:39.080 Northern Ireland they've turned that corner. They're looking forward. You know, 0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:42.320 how do you fit yourself between the EU and Brexit 0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:45.239 and you know all of the complicated questions, but they're 0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:48.600 economic questions now. They're not about going back to the 0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:49.560 armed struggle. 0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:53.680 Well, safety and hope and opportunity and food on a table, 0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:57.440 and safety and security for children and an opportunity for 0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:00.680 some hope for tomorrow is what it's all about. We're 0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:02.640 against the wild time. Perhaps in a week we can 0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:05.440 talk about an open government rather than a shutdown one. 0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:06.719 But we will let you go. 0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.399 Great perspective, insight and an update on what has gone 0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:11.880 on in the Middle East down to Washington and what 0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:14.799 does come with the help of President Trump the United States. 0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:18.080 Tony Blair, former Prime Minister of course for the UK 0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:21.720 and Britain and those parties in that part of the world, 0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:25.080 between Israel as well as cutter and across the board, 0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:28.120 Doctor Dona Shleck, former head of political science Right State University, 0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:29.240 now Professor Meredith. 0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:30.920 Thank you so much. I hope you enjoy the rest 0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:31.480 of your weekend. 0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:34.440 You two sterling Thanks. 0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:37.520 Take care of yourself straight away your ten o'clock report. 0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.120 Kevin Carr on the other side, we'll talk weekend movies. 0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:43.080 Good times here Holm of the Hooday seven hundred WLW, 0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:49.680 Cincinnati ULW, Kevin Carr. Fat guys at the movies, Silver 0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:53.000 get go on the sub stacks everywhere, even in your 0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:57.600 mailbox virtually or otherwise. Welcome back to the big one. 0:35:57.640 --> 0:36:02.520 Seven hundred WLW Kevin. How are you how everything Everything's. 0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:03.960 Going pretty well. How are you doing today? 0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:05.320 I have no complaints. 0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:07.560 It was like eighty degrees when I was coming into 0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:11.520 this place tonight on a Friday, on the edge of October. 0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:14.600 I know I'll be complaining about darkness and cold and 0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:18.919 freezing temperatures in snow soon enough. So I'm soaking all 0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:22.400 this up as best I can. And this almost seems 0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:25.640 like it's almost comfortable drive in weather too, when we're 0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:27.080 talking about movies and so forth. 0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:29.279 Even though we are here on a Friday. Football kind 0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:29.560 of night. 0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:32.399 Well, yeah, and here's why. You know. It's eighty three 0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:35.800 you said eighty three degrees, but it's low humidity. That's 0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:38.359 the key. And you can sit out and you can 0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:40.760 have a nice breeze come by, and it feels great. 0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:44.200 What's weird is then when the temperature starts dropping at night, 0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:48.239 it gets more and more humid because the air can 0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:51.520 hold less moisture, and then it gets to a point 0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:53.960 where you feel like it's condensing on you. So that 0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:56.200 can get a little uncomfortable. But no, it was beautiful. 0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:58.960 I was out in the park today and I mean 0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:01.520 just scored a little the mosquitoes. But you know, hey, 0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:03.200 you take what to take, what you get. 0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:05.680 A little malaria, it's no big deal. Don't worry about it. 0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:06.879 Just go to the bathroom a lot. 0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:07.399 That's okay. 0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:09.560 Pleasant things in life. You just got to deal with 0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:10.840 some bloodsucker sometimes. 0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:12.880 And that's the truth on more ways than one. 0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:15.839 All Right, So I know that a couple of weeks 0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:17.840 ago we talked about one battle after another, which is 0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.080 a new DiCaprio, and everybody under the sun's in that. 0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:22.399 But that's that's not actually out yet, right, that's still 0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:23.240 future speak. 0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:25.360 Correct, No, no, no, that came out last week. That 0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:27.880 wasn't last Talk last week, but yeah, it came out 0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:32.239 last week and it well, here's the thing. Did it 0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:34.920 do okay or did it not? Because they spent like 0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.319 one hundred and thirty million dollars on this film, which 0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:39.560 I don't know where that money went because it was 0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:42.080 not on the screen. I mean they well probably went 0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.399 to all the seventy millimeters work that they did with it, 0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:47.800 because it is being pushed as a big seventy milimeter release. 0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:51.560 But it's but it's still a good movie. It made 0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:55.160 like twenty some million last weekend, which is pretty low 0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:58.000 for the size of the budget. But it's going to 0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:02.120 carry through award season. It's got all these reviews, and 0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.400 I thought it was an interesting movie, but it's not 0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:06.600 a typical movie. 0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:10.640 But you'll sound like really excited, like like not long ago, 0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:14.000 like it was the Superman movie. You you were literally 0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:17.200 bursting through my headphones in the speakers as we drove 0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:21.440 around about your excitement about it this one. You're saying, Oh, 0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:23.759 it's big, and you don't know where they spent all 0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:27.440 the money. Uh whatever? Is this not as good as 0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:29.440 you would hope or is it hype too much. 0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:31.879 Now here's the thing that that's the thing. It's it's 0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:35.239 a hype thing because whenever Paul Thomas Anderson or pt 0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:39.919 Anderson comes out with the movie, there is this collective, 0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:45.840 almost sensual groan from the critical side of the world, 0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:48.520 and they're just like, it's the greatest movie ever, and 0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:50.440 I need to see it, get it in my eyeball. 0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:53.239 And that's like kind of the and you get that 0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:57.120 with a Christopher Roland movie. Uh, you get that with uh, 0:38:57.239 --> 0:39:01.359 you know, certain movies like this from certain directors. And 0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:03.719 I'm like, I liked it. It's a good movie. I 0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:06.440 gave it four out of five stars. But I am 0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:09.600 kind of like guy pumped the brakes a little bit. 0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:13.120 It's not the greatest movie of the year, let alone 0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:16.680 of all time. But it's entertaining and it's interesting. But 0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:20.600 it's it's it's not me when I say it's it's 0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:22.560 a typical. It's not a normal movie. That's not a 0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:26.400 knock on it. It's more a revel you know, a 0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:31.080 realization that it's doesn't follow your normal storyline. You know, 0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:33.839 if you were to say, hey, it's this movie about 0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:36.359 these people who are sort of like in this uh 0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:40.920 sort of pseudo terrorist organization, this sort of this Liberation 0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:41.840 Front group. 0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:42.359 Uh. 0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:45.719 And it's him, Uh, DiCaprio much later in life, just 0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:47.520 kind of trying to lead the normal life and the 0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:51.520 cage's pulled back into this by somebody who's hunting him. 0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:54.440 You think it's gonna be like a Steven Sagall action movie, 0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:57.359 and it ain't that. I'll tell you it's it's it's 0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:00.000 very different, and it's structured very differently. 0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:04.400 Talking to Kevin Carr Silver Gecko on sub Stack about 0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:06.960 this new DiCaprio movie. 0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:08.120 Sean Penn's in this. 0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:11.040 Obviously DiCaprio has got in the face of this and 0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:14.600 all the trailers I've seen Beniitio del Toro, Regina Hall, 0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:18.759 who I love, uh, and uh, Elena Haim, who now 0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:25.960 explained to me May West in this film. 0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:29.480 Uh, hold on, what do you? I'm sorry? 0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:32.840 The character she that's all right, she just oh the 0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:33.200 name of. 0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:40.239 The okay, I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, the actor? Uh see 0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:44.160 they they and which one was which one? I'm that's 0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:44.400 all right. 0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:46.360 I haven't seen it yet. I just know that she 0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:48.680 plays May West, and I didn't know if she was. 0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:51.200 It was like an old time kind of flashback to 0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:53.440 May West? Or is this just somebody else who's name 0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:54.080 May West. 0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:57.000 It's it's just they take code names. Okay, you know 0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:59.080 what I mean. Ause what it is is it's sort 0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:02.600 of like this this girl group of sort of you know, 0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:06.720 sort of what they would consider themselves revolutionary, and they're 0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:12.160 they're there to, you know, cause political unrest. And it 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:13.880 was like twenty years ago that they did this, and 0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:17.120 everybody had code names, and I'm blanking on a lot 0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:19.799 of their codeames, but there's stuff like that like May West, right, 0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:23.319 and so so yeah, that's that's that doesn't actually call 0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:24.080 back to Maywest. 0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:25.759 Okay, good, that's all I was trying to figure out. 0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:26.239 You've seen it. 0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:27.440 I had, and I didn't mean to throw you this 0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:29.319 the first time I think I've ever thrown anything at 0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:31.240 you were like, I have no idea what you're saying, 0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:32.200 and then I'm like. 0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:34.279 I don't know what i'm saying either. This is not good. 0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:36.400 So yeah, no, no, no, that was just that's just 0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:38.200 a code name for one of the characters. 0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:40.840 Right, So for those who don't know, can you break 0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:45.319 down without ruining it what this is actually about? Because 0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:47.680 I've had two people just message me real quickly going, so, 0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:49.200 what the hell is this movie really about? 0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:54.800 Yeah, well that that's the thing. So the DiCaprio with 0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:57.320 this guy used to be involved in this group that 0:41:57.320 --> 0:42:00.279 that caused all these sort of unrest in these and 0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:03.319 it's been like twenty years of fifteen years and he 0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:06.440 has gotten out of it, and he's raising his daughter 0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:10.960 because the woman he had the baby with she left 0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:12.680 and kind of because she was sort of a target 0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:15.239 in this organization. And he's just trying to raise the 0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:19.000 daughter and this guy who was involved in them from 0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:21.760 the military who's coming after them to try and track 0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:24.759 them down. He targets them and he kind of gets 0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:27.560 swept up into it and he's trying to go on 0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:31.960 the run save his daughter from sort of this unhinged 0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:35.120 military guy. It played by Sean Pett and Sean Penn's 0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:39.160 fantastic in it actually because he plays a completely bonker's 0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:41.120 character but makes it feel very realistic. 0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:45.680 Okay, is there anything to say else about that? 0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:47.959 Because I'm curious about something else? 0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:55.600 There's more. Like I said, I think my thing is 0:42:56.680 --> 0:43:00.880 you want to go in with tempered expect and realize 0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:04.279 it's not traditional because that doesn't follow that normal like 0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:08.360 three acts structure that were sort of even if you 0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:10.000 don't know what the three act structures, you go and 0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:12.600 watch movies and it kind of flows that way. But 0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:15.000 it's interesting. I was never bored in it, you know it. 0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:18.120 I was. I never found myself checking my watch even 0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:21.840 though it runs over two hours and it's it's it 0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:24.080 keeps you guessing because it is one of those movies 0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:26.200 that you're like, well, gosh, you know, anything can happen. 0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:26.720 Okay. 0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:29.839 You know, you watch Superman. You talked about Superman. You're like, corn, 0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:33.200 I'm not gonna kill Superman, so you know that's gonna 0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:35.680 end okay for him. But this one you have no idea. 0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:37.480 So that's what I would say. So it's it's a 0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:39.919 non traditional movie, but it's worth checking out. 0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:40.960 Okay, very good. 0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:45.680 Now, Good Boy is a dog movie, more or less correct, 0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:47.640 and I've saw a trailer about it. I want to 0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:50.200 see this one too, but I don't know if I should. 0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:52.719 That's why we have you on, Kevin Carr. Is it 0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:57.400 the movies? I just explain the hero nature I guess 0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.760 of the dog, which they are in most of our lives. 0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:02.680 Yeah, Good Boy is it's a horror movie. It's told 0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:04.880 from the dog's point of view. That's sort of the 0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:08.759 angle of it. And I mean not just that he's 0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:11.840 the main character, but you know, shot with low angles 0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:17.160 the human characters, their faces are often obscured, and there's dialogue, 0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:18.719 but it just kind of goes on in the background. 0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:23.400 It it's the presence of this dog with his owner 0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:26.719 who's got some health problems. He's a younger man but 0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:31.719 has some health problems, and he moves into it's more 0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:33.320 than a cabin, it's a house, but it's in the 0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:35.759 middle of the woods that his grandfather used to own, 0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:38.960 and there's something in there. There's some entity and the 0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:41.279 dog is trying to figure out what it is, and 0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:44.439 it's sniffing around and looking around, and there's some sort 0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:48.480 of malevolent presence there. And so yeah, it's a haunted 0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:50.560 house movie told from a dog's point of view, which 0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:52.879 makes it unique because otherwise it would have just been 0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:56.520 kind of a run of the mill entity movie kind 0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:59.560 of thing. But the dog's played by the dog's real 0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:01.879 names in and the character is named Indie, named after 0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:04.840 Indiana Jones. It's been a great dog. I mean, I'm like, 0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:07.359 let's give the dog the Academy Award at this point. 0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:13.360 Has that ever happened? No, I just I could have 0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:15.400 gotten like an Emmy, right, not. 0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:17.080 Like air Bud, the Oscars or. 0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:20.680 If you ever had that happen. I mean, you've had dogs. 0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:22.279 I mean I've been to the house car I know, 0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:27.080 and you've had a dog that like has seemingly had 0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:29.560 something that it's had interest in that, It's been a 0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:32.640 disturbed by in the backyard, in the house, whatever it is. 0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:36.200 It's heard something, smelled something and acted irregular, and then 0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:38.279 you kind of wonder, is there something there? Is it 0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:41.640 something beyond this realm? I mean, so that sort of 0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:44.200 plays into that thing that a lot of us, anybody 0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:46.719 who's had a pet has had something like that kind 0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:47.200 of happened. 0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:49.160 Just maybe not really a horror show. 0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:53.279 Well, definitely with a dog, cats are less. Cats are 0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:57.920 like in general okay kind of the way the cat works. 0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:00.000 But no, nothing is creepier than when you have a 0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:02.240 dog and you're sitting around and all of a sudden 0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:05.560 the dog just purse up and it's like and you 0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:06.160 didn't hear. 0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:08.680 Anything, because they hear and smell at all. 0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:11.719 Yeah, and you just don't know. Now, Like I live 0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:14.200 in the suburbs, so there's there's always like cars going 0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:16.560 by and you know that kind of thing. So there's 0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:20.239 always external noises. But I've been I've been in the 0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:22.359 you know, like in relatives, you know when they live 0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:24.480 out in the woods, you know, in the hills of 0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:27.160 West Virginia. Yeah, you don't want to hear the dogs 0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:29.719 get like upset then, because I mean that could be 0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:31.640 that's not even a ghost thing. I mean, if you're 0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:33.799 like in the West Virginia, it could be there could 0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:36.759 be coyotes there. Could you don't know what's outside at 0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:38.480 night in the middle of the woods. 0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:40.799 And I hear them all the time around the house 0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:43.239 is sterling, and my dog will will peak up, and 0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:44.279 then he's kind of like, all right, we can go 0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:46.359 in the house now, because I think he he that's 0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:48.920 about the only thing he's scared of. Everything else. He's 0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:51.279 got a big mouth. He'll hide behind me. But when 0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:53.640 he hears the coyotes yipping and yapping and whatever they 0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:55.680 do late at night, he's like, all right, I'm good. 0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:59.279 Yeah, yeah, you don't know. The coyotes are not to 0:46:59.280 --> 0:46:59.960 be trifled with. 0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:02.799 Yeah, he'd be a snack. He's like, I know they 0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:04.719 can shump that six foot fence. It's no big deal. 0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:08.239 So of the way that plays out anything else before 0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:10.800 we let you hop I know you mentioned you saw 0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:13.479 something else. I can't remember what it was, though, yeah 0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:13.759 it was. 0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:16.600 I got a chance to check out the new Netflix film. 0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:20.280 It's coming out in theaters I think on October tenth 0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:25.480 and on Netflix on the twenty fourth. House of Dynamite, Yeah, 0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:30.440 which is Captain Bigelow's new movie. Stars Rebecca Ferguson, Andrecelba, 0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:34.440 Tracy Letts, pretty big cast, and what it does is 0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:37.040 it tells a story of sort of like in real time, 0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:44.840 of the government and the military's response to an a 0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:48.759 ICBM launch into the United States. But they don't know 0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:52.279 who's done it, or who's behind it, or where it 0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:55.479 came from exactly, and they have eighteen minutes to figure 0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:58.759 out what to do. Oh can you stop it? How 0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:01.520 do you respond? And so it's this eighteen minute segment 0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:05.719 replayed like three times h and it's it's it's really 0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:08.680 quite terrifying when you look at the reality behind a 0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:11.040 situation like that. Because we know you and I grew 0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:13.200 up with war games and all that kind of stuff 0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:17.680 with the with movies about you know, nuclear winter could happen. 0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:19.120 We've kind of forgotten that. 0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:22.280 I mean, I don't know about you, but I remember 0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:26.040 in elementary school we had tornado drills and fire drills 0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:28.839 and distinkly we may have done it more than once, 0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:30.520 but there was one time they'd had us go to 0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:33.959 the basement fallout shelter kind of thing. Oh, after seeing 0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:35.600 a movie, like we were supposed to hide. I guess 0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:38.560 if they can't hit ge or right pad or whatever 0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:41.360 it was, you know, if it actually was going down. 0:48:41.840 --> 0:48:43.920 And I remember being a little kid even because they 0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:45.400 were like you could duck your head under the you know, 0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:47.399 the desk, or use a book to cover your head. 0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:49.839 You got that, you actually got an honest to god 0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:52.120 duck and cover yeah drill when you were in school. 0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:53.360 I never got the duck and cover. 0:48:53.280 --> 0:48:57.000 Drill only time, and I thought they had too. I mean, 0:48:57.160 --> 0:48:58.080 I didn't know anything about it. 0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:00.279 And I told my mom about it, and she was like, uh, 0:49:00.400 --> 0:49:02.239 it's you know, I wouldn't worry about it, which is 0:49:02.280 --> 0:49:03.880 the way she said it, and I kind. 0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:06.080 Of alluded to it. I was like, what difference is 0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:06.839 that gonna make? 0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:07.920 Well? 0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:10.359 I remember the original duck and cover like video from 0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:12.960 the fifties with the turtle singing and everything. There's like 0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:15.160 people having a picnic and they put the blanket over it. 0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:19.160 Like that blanket is not going to stop a thermonuclear weapon. 0:49:19.320 --> 0:49:21.080 I don't like to throw kool aid on you and 0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:22.760 you would still get wet and stained. 0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:25.160 It's not going to stop nuclear fall out. 0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:29.320 Yeah, that's right. The picnic basket is worthless against like soft. 0:49:29.120 --> 0:49:30.560 Drinks, that's right. 0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:34.360 But one of the things, because because I was in 0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:36.560 the there was we had a press conference and Catherine 0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:39.080 Bigelow was there and everything, and she talked about one 0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:41.120 of the things she said was what was terrifying when 0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:43.920 they were doing the research for this film. She's like, 0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:47.399 there's like there's like nine countries on this planet that 0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:51.000 have nuclear capabilities, and like only three of them are NATO. 0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:53.279 I might have those numbers wrong, So my apologies to 0:49:53.320 --> 0:49:54.040 those who know that. 0:49:55.200 --> 0:49:58.000 But yeah, well that's one of those things that we 0:49:58.640 --> 0:50:01.680 know when the Soviet Union broke up, and we know 0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:04.120 it's a problem now obviously, but the talk was always 0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:06.839 about you know, the dirty bomb, those weapons that sort 0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:08.879 of may have been missing that you know, something could 0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:10.799 be out there, but there are so many actors now 0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:14.600 that meaning countries, nation states are otherwise there could be 0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:17.839 up to no good. It's just sort of I don't 0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:20.279 even know why worry about it, I guess, but what 0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:23.280 you just described is unnerving. Edress Alba is always great, 0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:26.759 Jared Harris, which is of course Richard Harris's son who 0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:30.279 was imagining, and a bunch of other stuff. This cast 0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:33.560 seems interesting when you say it's unnerving, and it's weird 0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:37.120 for you to say, so that clearly got into your head. 0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:40.759 Well, like like another thing. And Big Old pointed this 0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:42.600 out on the press conferences, and you see it in 0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:44.040 the film. You see the play out in the film. 0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:47.399 You know, SECTAFF will drill this thing four hundred times 0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:50.280 a year. They know what to do in this situation, 0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:52.040 and you know how to track the missiles and all 0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:54.600 this kind of stuff. And they and they asked in 0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:57.400 the production. They're asking their consultants and they say, you know, 0:50:57.400 --> 0:50:59.600 how much prep prep does the president get? And they're like, 0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:02.320 he's for less than an hour when he takes office, 0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:06.200 just now, and that is it. And then he has 0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:08.880 this guy following him around with football and he's the 0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:11.759 one who makes the decisions of how many how do 0:51:11.840 --> 0:51:14.360 we respond? Do we respond? You know, do we respond? 0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:16.800 And you know, do we spend everything? 0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:17.360 Do we do it? 0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:20.719 Sturgical? I mean, and in this movie, it shows you 0:51:20.760 --> 0:51:23.480 have eighteen minutes from from the moment it happens to 0:51:23.520 --> 0:51:26.239 the moment at Land you have eighteen minutes and then 0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:28.399 within that time all these decisions have to be made. 0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:33.600 So it's it shows how precariously balanced we are. And 0:51:33.640 --> 0:51:36.520 it's just we don't realize that now because that was 0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:38.799 an eighties thing. You know, everyone's like, oh, we're past it. 0:51:38.840 --> 0:51:39.759 We are not past that. 0:51:39.920 --> 0:51:41.200 No, it's still out there, that's for sure. 0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:43.440 Kevin Carr. By the way, Silver Gecko on Substec. One 0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:45.880 last thing I have to ask somebody message me just 0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:47.680 now about it. And I was going to ask anyway. 0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:51.000 So that's perfect. Thank you Alex for that. You mentioned 0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:54.759 it Netflix film, which most of us have streaming of that. 0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:57.640 But it's in theaters and it's not just going to 0:51:57.680 --> 0:51:59.840 be in the netflick flix theaters because they have some 0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:02.319 of their own now, right, But will this be like 0:52:02.320 --> 0:52:06.440 at the a MC down the street downtown what uh? 0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:11.120 Generally I don't know what the release window is for that. 0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:13.680 Sometimes they do just put them in the Netflix theaters. 0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:18.640 That's that is a qualifying run, so it's eligible for Oscars, 0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:20.840 oh and awards. That's why a lot of times this 0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:22.880 time of year, you're gonna see that when when Gambello 0:52:23.000 --> 0:52:25.799 Tomorrow's Frankenstein comes out, you're gonna see that with a 0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:28.359 bunch of stuff that goes to Netflix where they really 0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:30.520 promoted for the at home viewing, because that's that is 0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:32.880 the business model of the Netflix. But they've bought these 0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:34.680 theaters and then they can run them in these theaters 0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:38.319 in New York and LA in order to qualify. So 0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:41.640 I'm not sure how wide it's gonna run. Now, wake 0:52:41.719 --> 0:52:43.520 Up something like Wake Up dead Man, which is the 0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:46.400 next NICs out movie, that might get a wider release 0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:49.799 in theaters, because that tends to make a little bit 0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:52.759 more money in wide release than than some of these 0:52:52.760 --> 0:52:55.800 smaller movies or or these more targeted no pun intended. 0:52:55.960 --> 0:52:57.000 Yeah, thanks for that. 0:52:57.400 --> 0:52:59.360 Yeah, I mean, if you can make a little bit 0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:02.000 more money, who doesn't want more money in general? Yeah, 0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:04.319 so I totally get that. Kevin Cart's good to talk 0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:07.000 to you again. Sorry we missed a week. We'll obviously 0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:10.120 have you back as always. Silver Gecko on substack. Fat 0:53:10.160 --> 0:53:12.480 guys at the movies. Thanks for making time. I hope 0:53:12.520 --> 0:53:14.600 you enjoy the rest of your weekend. Man all right, 0:53:14.600 --> 0:53:16.839 thank you too, take care of yourself. More Sterling coming back. 0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:20.000 Ten third report straight away. Lee Mallen has that, including 0:53:20.040 --> 0:53:22.359 some ties to Rod Serling in the Big one straight away. 0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:26.120 Seven hundred WLW Thanks seven hundred w LW the weekend. 0:53:26.120 --> 0:53:30.520 It's cheer reds of course, eliminated from posts and playing. 0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:34.279 Played two wild card games out in LA and lost both, 0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:38.360 So vacation time for them, rebuilding or at least planning 0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:40.560 ahead and some wholesale changes maybe to try to get 0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:43.360 to the next level next year. So hot the stove 0:53:43.440 --> 0:53:46.000 league action at least for them sooner than later. Other 0:53:46.040 --> 0:53:51.080 playoffs continuing on tomorrow. The Big twelve football getting ready 0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:54.879 to get under way tonight. You got West Virginia on 0:53:54.920 --> 0:53:58.239 the road at BYU just about to kickoff time or 0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:01.160 just kicked off actually, so we can update you on 0:54:01.200 --> 0:54:05.520 that as well. Iowa State in town at Knippert tomorrow 0:54:05.680 --> 0:54:08.960 kickoff noon, home of those football Bearcats. 0:54:09.000 --> 0:54:10.960 News Radio seven hundred WLW. 0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:14.680 Hear the game here and will follow of course, so 0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:18.080 with Donade joining me to get you through your Saturday afternoon. 0:54:18.120 --> 0:54:20.400 So hopefully they can get back on track. Three and 0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:23.040 one record for the Bearcats, five and oh for Iowa 0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:26.280 State undefeated coming in it should be a good matchup. 0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:29.359 A lot of stuff going on. Oh, by the way, 0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:32.560 up Bengals and Lions. I wasn't overlooking it before I 0:54:32.600 --> 0:54:35.600 get hate on it. It's just that, I mean, you know, 0:54:36.400 --> 0:54:39.080 two and oh start where everybody was like, oh, you know, 0:54:39.160 --> 0:54:41.799 let's hope that they start off quick rather than in 0:54:41.840 --> 0:54:44.359 a hole. Oh and two oh and three, and then 0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:47.680 Joe's tow became an issue thanks to the turf problem 0:54:48.200 --> 0:54:51.080 and jacked it up, so he's out for at least 0:54:51.320 --> 0:54:53.759 what three months, give or take, maybe not back the 0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:57.160 season at all. And Jake Browning under center and now 0:54:57.239 --> 0:54:59.680 oh and two with him, that makes them five hundred 0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:03.760 with a three to one Lions team coming down seventy 0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:07.360 five to play at pay Corps. You'll hear that also 0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:12.480 on seven hundred WLW. Let's see, Oh, this is kind 0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:14.600 of a big news. It's been around going on for 0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:17.520 a while in the news. It's been now the better 0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:20.600 part of ninety days. I think it's a three months 0:55:20.640 --> 0:55:24.120 since p diddy. Sean Colmes used to be puff Daddy, 0:55:25.080 --> 0:55:31.120 I mean pick various aliases in his creative outlook, including 0:55:31.120 --> 0:55:35.320 big screen work too in a great movie called Maids 0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:38.480 from a number of years ago too, made with the 0:55:38.520 --> 0:55:41.120 dead Colombo some time ago. 0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:43.480 But serious reasons why he's in the news. 0:55:43.520 --> 0:55:48.240 He was convicted in federal court in New York three 0:55:48.280 --> 0:55:53.400 months ago on two prostitution related charges, acquitted of what 0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:57.200 was considered to be a much more serious charge of racketeering, 0:55:57.239 --> 0:56:01.440 conspiracy and sex trafficking, but he is still looking to 0:56:01.520 --> 0:56:05.320 get what could have been a good number of years, 0:56:05.880 --> 0:56:09.720 like ten eleven years instead with time served. Another four 0:56:09.920 --> 0:56:13.400 altogether is what he's been sentenced to, So he's going 0:56:13.480 --> 0:56:17.240 to go away for a while, in addition to also 0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:22.480 having a pretty decent size fine associated with it. All 0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:26.600 the talk of sex trafficking, prostitution issues and Hammer coming 0:56:26.640 --> 0:56:28.920 down on that, it's gotten a lot of attention. I 0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:31.000 don't know how much of a big deal this is 0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:34.920 for everybody in general at this point, but for anyone 0:56:34.960 --> 0:56:40.120 wanting justice, anyone wanting retribution for wrongdoing and putting people 0:56:40.400 --> 0:56:43.160 in situations that they don't want to be forced into 0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:46.960 some type of sex trade or otherwise. This is probably 0:56:48.160 --> 0:56:51.200 what people wanted, is an outcome as a penalty for 0:56:51.280 --> 0:56:53.400 that type of behavior. He of course said all the 0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:56.440 things that you would hope someone would say, certainly what 0:56:56.600 --> 0:57:00.200 a lot of times people say when they're coming up 0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:03.960 on sentencing after a conviction, to try to lessen what 0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:07.080 they could be having to navigate when it comes to 0:57:07.120 --> 0:57:11.160 being locked up in losing their freedom. So what I'm 0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:13.800 wondering about is this. And Cassie Ventura, by the way, 0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:17.160 one of those a singer that was sort of a 0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:21.520 part of his groups tutelage and his production and all 0:57:21.520 --> 0:57:25.080 the other stuff that goes with it. She testified against him, 0:57:25.200 --> 0:57:30.320 very serious contributor to that prosecution and help get that 0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:33.600 conviction came out. And she says, well, nothing can undo 0:57:33.720 --> 0:57:36.920 the trauma caused by Combs. The sentence imposed today, this 0:57:37.000 --> 0:57:39.920 is what she said earlier, recognizes the impact of the 0:57:39.960 --> 0:57:43.960 serious offenses he committed. She says, we're confident that the 0:57:44.200 --> 0:57:48.800 support of her family and friends, Miss Ventura will continue 0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:52.680 healing and knowing that her bravery and fortitude have been 0:57:52.720 --> 0:57:56.880 an inspiration to so many. What I'm wondering is this, 0:57:58.200 --> 0:58:00.640 And I'll open up the phones and see where your 0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:03.640 head is on this five three seven four nine, seven thousand, 0:58:04.040 --> 0:58:07.240 eight hundred, the Big One. If you're on X what 0:58:07.400 --> 0:58:09.400 used to be called Twitter. I guess I still have 0:58:09.440 --> 0:58:12.040 to say that for some because occasionally people will say 0:58:12.200 --> 0:58:14.240 I got there on T footer, But it's X. Yeah, 0:58:14.400 --> 0:58:16.200 that's what it is and that's what it has been. 0:58:16.440 --> 0:58:20.400 At Stirling Radio. You can find me there three seven 0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:22.720 four nine seven eight hundred the Big One. You can 0:58:22.760 --> 0:58:25.480 talk back the iHeartRadio app as well by clicking on 0:58:25.520 --> 0:58:29.480 that microphone. Do you think that five years for what 0:58:29.560 --> 0:58:31.680 he was convicted of is enough? 0:58:31.760 --> 0:58:32.320 Is it fair? 0:58:32.520 --> 0:58:36.200 Is it just the judge certainly making that determination. Prosecution 0:58:36.400 --> 0:58:39.600 wanted to full ride. Defense wanted what had already been 0:58:39.640 --> 0:58:43.160 served effectively, because that's their job. 0:58:43.480 --> 0:58:46.400 I mean, nobody wants to go away. In some cases. 0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:50.000 Being famous and notable maybe makes his time behind bars 0:58:50.080 --> 0:58:53.520 more difficult. In some cases from what they say, that 0:58:53.640 --> 0:58:55.520 may make it a little bit easier of a ride, 0:58:55.560 --> 0:58:58.120 depending on how you look at it. Certainly will help 0:58:58.160 --> 0:59:01.440 his street cred in some circles relation to that. But 0:59:01.520 --> 0:59:04.200 if you are someone who loves women as I do, 0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:08.200 whether it's your mother, your sister, your daughter, or otherwise 0:59:08.280 --> 0:59:10.680 the woman in your life if you are a woman, 0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:14.400 my guess. I hate to make an assumption. I learned 0:59:14.400 --> 0:59:16.479 that watching reruns of the Benny Hill Show on Channel 0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:19.320 nineteen when I was a young sterling. You make an 0:59:19.360 --> 0:59:22.200 ass to you and me when you assume. But one 0:59:22.200 --> 0:59:25.560 would surmise that most people that are reasonable looking at 0:59:25.560 --> 0:59:28.880 someone who's been convicted of something like that, should go away, 0:59:29.000 --> 0:59:32.240 should spend time, should be a penalty because they were 0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:36.600 convicted of doing something that caused harm to another or others. 0:59:36.640 --> 0:59:40.480 In relation to that, he did spend thirteen months away already, 0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:45.120 he'll get credit for that. Plus the issue of bond 0:59:45.920 --> 0:59:51.360 five year Supervoice release in addition to that, and apparently 0:59:51.400 --> 0:59:54.240 obviously fairly broken up about it, I'm wondering, do you 0:59:54.240 --> 0:59:56.240 think it's fair? Is it reasonable? 0:59:56.440 --> 0:59:57.040 Is it just? 0:59:57.720 --> 0:59:59.920 And in this time and talk of all the Epstein 1:00:00.680 --> 1:00:04.200 files and tapes that are still dripping out with no 1:00:04.880 --> 1:00:09.600 real information beyond that there's some big fish out there 1:00:09.640 --> 1:00:12.640 who have done some pretty serious thing to some underage 1:00:12.720 --> 1:00:16.080 women and others. A part of that, and occasionally here 1:00:16.080 --> 1:00:17.800 in the news you hear in the tri State, other 1:00:17.840 --> 1:00:21.120 parts of Ohio and the country it's a fairly common thing. 1:00:21.480 --> 1:00:24.720 It's the oldest profession out there, and oftentimes it's not 1:00:24.920 --> 1:00:29.040 women of age making a choice to you know, make 1:00:29.080 --> 1:00:31.640 money the old fashioned way. It's people that have been 1:00:31.680 --> 1:00:36.720 forced into it, marginalized, trafficed or otherwise. If I've went three, seven, four, nine, seven, 1:00:37.200 --> 1:00:38.840 eight hundred the big one, what do you think. Let's 1:00:38.840 --> 1:00:41.000 get to bond Hill and Rafael haven't talked to Raffi 1:00:41.040 --> 1:00:43.960 in a while. Welcome back to seven hundred WLW with Sterling. 1:00:43.960 --> 1:00:46.120 How are you, brother, Sterling? 1:00:46.160 --> 1:00:46.720 How's it going? 1:00:46.880 --> 1:00:49.680 No complaints, my man, it's a nice, beautiful Friday night 1:00:49.720 --> 1:00:51.000 and talking to you life is good. 1:00:51.320 --> 1:00:54.960 Well, man, can't get no better than this, hey, Sterling, Man, 1:00:55.000 --> 1:00:58.840 I got a soft spot for women as well. Females. 1:00:59.200 --> 1:01:02.520 Yes, my mother, grandmother. 1:01:02.760 --> 1:01:10.160 White, anybody you know that's a female. Men who abuse them, 1:01:10.600 --> 1:01:19.760 beat them, rape, sexual assault, manipulate them are lower than 1:01:19.800 --> 1:01:27.720 the lowest creature ever in the history of life. I 1:01:27.720 --> 1:01:33.960 hate saying that guy's name, but he is pure scum, scum, 1:01:34.000 --> 1:01:43.000 unadulterated filth. Unfortunately, the charges that's stuck the judge, and 1:01:43.040 --> 1:01:45.760 I know judges has to be totally unbiased and whatnot, 1:01:46.560 --> 1:01:50.920 but it seems like the sentence for the charges fits. 1:01:51.400 --> 1:01:54.440 Even though I don't have a problem that the prosecution 1:01:55.320 --> 1:01:59.320 where they were asking for a full eleven years and whatnot. 1:02:00.400 --> 1:02:04.360 The five years or whatever that he got, he could 1:02:04.400 --> 1:02:06.920 have done that half that time with eleven or so. 1:02:07.760 --> 1:02:09.920 But so be it. 1:02:11.480 --> 1:02:16.400 But I think that if you and I followed the case. Sterling, 1:02:17.360 --> 1:02:20.800 one of the witnesses that would have the prosecution had 1:02:20.880 --> 1:02:25.480 lined up to speak today in the eleventh hour, she declined, 1:02:26.320 --> 1:02:30.720 that's because of fear. And this dude ran a criminal 1:02:32.080 --> 1:02:38.960 enterprise based on sex, drugs, intimidation, fear of violence, a 1:02:39.360 --> 1:02:47.200 gun running. He ran a criminal network empire. And of 1:02:47.280 --> 1:02:51.640 course you know that the jury they tossed out things 1:02:51.640 --> 1:02:53.440 that they didn't think were revealing everything. 1:02:53.480 --> 1:02:55.160 But I thought that the. 1:02:55.080 --> 1:03:00.400 Prosecute, I'm sorry, prostitution across state lines. I thought that 1:03:00.400 --> 1:03:06.880 that was definitely relevant. But this guy should get the 1:03:06.920 --> 1:03:10.640 full amount of time possible. And he's not going to 1:03:10.720 --> 1:03:14.840 get it because he still had people who worked for him, 1:03:15.880 --> 1:03:20.360 who abused women, intimidated women, beat women, and and and 1:03:20.440 --> 1:03:25.040 their family members and whatnot. And and people were fearful 1:03:26.160 --> 1:03:33.080 of this guy, but his his bs crying and and 1:03:33.080 --> 1:03:36.320 and and speaking before the court and letters and everything 1:03:36.440 --> 1:03:39.080 like that. He's talking about that. You know he's so 1:03:39.240 --> 1:03:41.920 honest now and you know he'll never do it like that. 1:03:42.360 --> 1:03:46.480 Remember when the video when he beat hit Casfie in the. 1:03:46.400 --> 1:03:48.320 Hallway the elevator. 1:03:49.360 --> 1:03:52.560 Right now he said, prior to that video coming out, like, oh, 1:03:52.600 --> 1:03:55.840 I've never hit her. I never abused Kathy. The video 1:03:55.960 --> 1:04:01.000 drops and everything in crickets. See, he's a live sterling 1:04:01.720 --> 1:04:06.680 because he's just I'm only hanging up so you can 1:04:06.680 --> 1:04:08.600 get other calls because I don't want anything to slip 1:04:08.640 --> 1:04:11.800 out of my mouth. Okay, he disgusts me, brother, he 1:04:11.880 --> 1:04:12.320 really does. 1:04:12.400 --> 1:04:15.120 I understand. I can hear it through the the you 1:04:15.160 --> 1:04:17.320 know your call and conversation, refe. I appreciate the call. 1:04:17.360 --> 1:04:20.880 One question before you bounce, though, is it interesting to 1:04:20.960 --> 1:04:24.160 you as it is to me? The fame, the fortune, 1:04:24.200 --> 1:04:28.600 the notoriety oftentimes brings a soft feeling, more of a 1:04:28.600 --> 1:04:35.240 feeling of either indifference or somehow uh an idea of 1:04:35.400 --> 1:04:38.800 softness and consideration for the accused in this case, the 1:04:38.920 --> 1:04:42.960 convicted and did it columns in a situation like this, 1:04:43.120 --> 1:04:46.160 to compare to if it was just somebody random off 1:04:46.200 --> 1:04:49.880 the street, he unfortunately. 1:04:49.280 --> 1:04:53.160 Yes, and then he had his kids and family members 1:04:53.160 --> 1:04:56.440 parading in front with the fake peers and all that. 1:04:56.560 --> 1:04:59.200 You know, they're just looking at the money. He's talking 1:04:59.200 --> 1:05:02.520 about his business is gone and everything like that. It's 1:05:02.640 --> 1:05:06.680 not he's still going to make money by ways of 1:05:07.000 --> 1:05:13.840 his criminality. But unfortunately, jury members and others and especially 1:05:13.920 --> 1:05:17.240 in the black community, you know, sterling, but they just 1:05:17.320 --> 1:05:20.040 see this guy. You know, it's just like I think 1:05:20.080 --> 1:05:22.640 one of his attorneys she got up there crime saying, like, 1:05:22.960 --> 1:05:25.960 you know, he's a beacon of hope in the black community. 1:05:26.840 --> 1:05:30.200 The hope is that you hope that this guy doesn't beat, rape, 1:05:31.040 --> 1:05:33.880 drug your daughter, niece, granddaughter. 1:05:34.440 --> 1:05:35.600 That's that's the hope. 1:05:35.840 --> 1:05:37.400 Yeah, it's just. 1:05:37.400 --> 1:05:39.680 All bs that they get caught up in this. You 1:05:39.720 --> 1:05:42.640 know that he's he's somebody, he's somebody. 1:05:43.520 --> 1:05:47.040 Power, hunk, power and fame are a very interesting thing 1:05:47.080 --> 1:05:49.360 and how people want to let go of stuff and 1:05:49.400 --> 1:05:52.640 go along with certain elements of it are discounted or 1:05:52.720 --> 1:05:56.480 somehow marginalize the victim. But we're in a society historically, 1:05:56.880 --> 1:06:02.320 globally speaking, that is marginalized, treated as less than insignificant 1:06:02.400 --> 1:06:06.200 or as property. Women and certainly children in so many cases, 1:06:06.240 --> 1:06:08.360 and it continues to be the case like that. Now 1:06:08.800 --> 1:06:11.480 it's it's bewildering. You're right, you know, and I was 1:06:11.560 --> 1:06:14.840 raised by Yeah. It really is good to talk to you, Ruffel. 1:06:14.840 --> 1:06:17.800 I appreciate the comment. Always you always you take care 1:06:17.840 --> 1:06:20.240 of yourself, Enjoy the weekend. Five point three seven four 1:06:20.320 --> 1:06:23.080 nine seven eight hundred. The big one the iHeartRadio app. 1:06:23.320 --> 1:06:24.800 You can pick up the phone, give it the finger, 1:06:24.880 --> 1:06:27.320 or to click that microphone on the iHeart app and 1:06:27.440 --> 1:06:29.560 leave a message that way too. I'm on x AX 1:06:29.600 --> 1:06:31.960 Sterling Radio as well. I'd like to hear from some 1:06:32.040 --> 1:06:34.320 ladies on this as well. Give you a chance to 1:06:34.400 --> 1:06:35.200 sound off on this. 1:06:35.720 --> 1:06:35.840 Uh. 1:06:36.560 --> 1:06:39.680 It is the oldest profession in the book, but forced 1:06:39.680 --> 1:06:44.080 into it, you know, somehow treated less than abused, beaten 1:06:44.160 --> 1:06:47.240 or otherwise. Is the thing that is a very wild thing. 1:06:47.400 --> 1:06:49.800 If it just popped up in the news about somebody 1:06:49.880 --> 1:06:51.720 from pick A city in the Tri State. I don't 1:06:51.720 --> 1:06:54.040 want a point a finger in any community where something 1:06:54.080 --> 1:06:57.640 could happen, But imagine anywhere along seventy one or seventy five, 1:06:57.720 --> 1:07:02.160 in a hotel someplace or downtown place it happens. 1:07:03.040 --> 1:07:04.840 But here's the wrinkle. 1:07:04.920 --> 1:07:09.480 I want to ask, because I've mentioned this before in 1:07:09.520 --> 1:07:12.480 some fashion, the same way when it comes to legal 1:07:12.520 --> 1:07:16.560 weed or other drug situations. You know, where you take 1:07:16.600 --> 1:07:19.680 the moratorium off of it, where you can control it, 1:07:20.000 --> 1:07:22.400 where you could allow the authorities to have a hand 1:07:22.400 --> 1:07:24.720 in it. You're never going to completely eradicate the so 1:07:24.880 --> 1:07:28.400 called black market of trade of drugs or sex and 1:07:29.080 --> 1:07:32.800 so forth, but to have it safer and more secure, 1:07:33.480 --> 1:07:36.560 and it is allowed to have some hand of authority 1:07:36.600 --> 1:07:41.160 in there for health care and keeping the activities safer, 1:07:42.120 --> 1:07:45.120 not completely safe, and making sure that it's people that 1:07:45.200 --> 1:07:47.520 are in it because that's what they choose rather than 1:07:47.520 --> 1:07:49.880 what they've been forced to do. Does that not make 1:07:49.920 --> 1:07:52.640 it better? Should that not be something that we talk about. 1:07:53.440 --> 1:07:56.200 I'm not saying normalize it, but it's going on. It 1:07:56.200 --> 1:07:59.320 has always gone on, and it will never stop going 1:07:59.320 --> 1:08:01.640 on because if not getting it, and even if you've 1:08:01.640 --> 1:08:04.040 got it at home, there's a whole lot of people 1:08:04.080 --> 1:08:06.760 who like to either buy a power play or to 1:08:06.800 --> 1:08:09.720 get what they can't get at the house someplace else 1:08:09.800 --> 1:08:12.960 out there. Five point three seven eight hundred the big 1:08:12.960 --> 1:08:14.919 one real quick, Let's get Chad here before the break 1:08:14.960 --> 1:08:16.920 on hold, and then we'll give you a chance to 1:08:17.000 --> 1:08:18.599 speak your mind as well. Chad, what do you think 1:08:18.640 --> 1:08:19.880 are with Sterling on the big one? 1:08:20.360 --> 1:08:22.280 Hey, thanks for all Listen everything that got your least 1:08:22.280 --> 1:08:24.000 car says right, completely right. 1:08:24.600 --> 1:08:24.920 Listen. 1:08:25.320 --> 1:08:27.040 If I'm a lot of these victims, I got to 1:08:27.080 --> 1:08:30.000 be disgusted with this. The serious charges, I mean, what 1:08:30.080 --> 1:08:31.920 he did was serious. But I'm saying the other charges 1:08:32.160 --> 1:08:34.800 that they threw out, it's clear that he bought them 1:08:34.880 --> 1:08:37.599 or paid or there's money involved here that got rid 1:08:37.600 --> 1:08:39.920 of these various serious charges. And the fact of the 1:08:39.960 --> 1:08:41.719 sense he got. I mean, I'm glad he's going away, 1:08:42.040 --> 1:08:44.080 but let's not kid ourselves here for what he did 1:08:44.160 --> 1:08:46.840 is a slap on the wrist he's gonna get. I mean, 1:08:46.960 --> 1:08:48.920 I'm disgusted, Like I said, the victims have got to 1:08:48.920 --> 1:08:51.400 be disgusted about this. I mean because, like I said, 1:08:51.439 --> 1:08:54.200 the other charges that they that they threw out, and 1:08:54.280 --> 1:08:56.880 people had to see this coming. You know, when they 1:08:56.920 --> 1:09:00.040 threw these other charges out, they you knew you I 1:09:00.080 --> 1:09:01.800 knew this was coming. He was going to get. I'm 1:09:01.800 --> 1:09:04.080 not saying four years of I send, but what he 1:09:04.160 --> 1:09:07.000 should have got, what the charges that had left, they 1:09:07.000 --> 1:09:09.160 should have gave him the max. Considering all the other 1:09:09.240 --> 1:09:11.320 charges that we all know he was guilty of, they 1:09:11.360 --> 1:09:12.880 threw out Chad. 1:09:12.920 --> 1:09:13.679 You know what's interesting. 1:09:13.800 --> 1:09:15.519 I was talking to a friend of mine earlier today 1:09:15.560 --> 1:09:18.640 about it, and she was saying that before the sentencing 1:09:19.080 --> 1:09:21.280 came out, that she thought he was going to be 1:09:21.320 --> 1:09:24.840 able to walk. She said she was surprised pleasantly, but 1:09:24.960 --> 1:09:26.720 not as happy as she would be, as you said, 1:09:26.760 --> 1:09:28.920 if he had gotten the MAX. But I'll ask you 1:09:28.960 --> 1:09:30.880 what I asked her, and she said that she thought 1:09:30.960 --> 1:09:34.360 it should be decriminalized and controlled in some fashion, talking 1:09:34.360 --> 1:09:36.639 about the sex trade. But it's not going to eliminate 1:09:36.680 --> 1:09:39.799 those who like kids in, those who want to traffic 1:09:40.040 --> 1:09:42.920 in people who were forced into it. But should it 1:09:42.960 --> 1:09:44.519 be something you know, I don't know, if you have 1:09:44.560 --> 1:09:47.040 a red light district or something like in Amsterdam or 1:09:47.080 --> 1:09:50.200 other parts of the world. Would that make things safer 1:09:50.240 --> 1:09:53.120 and more secure for the customer as well as the 1:09:53.120 --> 1:09:55.519 person who's doing the work. Or is that just too 1:09:55.600 --> 1:09:58.640 far down, you know, across the line of what's inappropriate. 1:09:58.680 --> 1:10:03.000 Do you think No, I think you're exactly right that 1:10:03.280 --> 1:10:05.920 that has to be that's something that can be controlled, 1:10:06.160 --> 1:10:09.360 because the way it is right now, there's never going. 1:10:09.360 --> 1:10:10.040 To be controlled. 1:10:10.080 --> 1:10:11.760 It's all like you said, it's always going to be 1:10:11.760 --> 1:10:13.280 out there and the people that got all the power 1:10:13.320 --> 1:10:15.280 and the money, they're going to keep doing this stuff. 1:10:15.920 --> 1:10:18.800 It's got to be controlled. And it's something like that. 1:10:19.080 --> 1:10:21.200 I mean, I don't know the numbers, the statistic, but 1:10:21.240 --> 1:10:24.040 I'm sure something like in Amsterdam with a red audition 1:10:24.120 --> 1:10:26.160 all these other places that have something, or I'll go 1:10:26.240 --> 1:10:28.439 to Philippines Platoff and they got like something like that. 1:10:29.080 --> 1:10:32.360 I mean, it's it's more controlled now. Obviously you're still 1:10:32.360 --> 1:10:34.960 going to have the miners getting in there other stuff, 1:10:35.360 --> 1:10:37.599 but there's got to be something to stop this because 1:10:37.640 --> 1:10:40.880 this happens. And this is this because it's the high 1:10:40.920 --> 1:10:43.439 profile case. We don't I mean, something like this happens 1:10:43.439 --> 1:10:45.680 every day that we don't hear about just because it 1:10:45.760 --> 1:10:48.000 has to be Sean Colmes, That's why we've heard everything. 1:10:48.000 --> 1:10:50.840 It's disgusting and I don't know what has to be done, 1:10:50.880 --> 1:10:53.600 but I think something like that. I'm not saying I'm 1:10:53.600 --> 1:10:55.559 promoting it, but that might be the only way to 1:10:55.680 --> 1:10:56.920 kind of slow this crap down. 1:10:56.960 --> 1:10:57.360 That's it. 1:10:57.439 --> 1:10:58.559 You know, great call chat. 1:10:58.600 --> 1:11:01.120 Appreciate the takes, man, I appreciate you listening being a 1:11:01.120 --> 1:11:03.479 part of the show. Straight away, You're eleven o'clock report. 1:11:03.560 --> 1:11:05.240 More on this, and a whole lot of other stuff 1:11:05.280 --> 1:11:07.840 to touch on, including doctor Donald Schleck conversation I had 1:11:07.880 --> 1:11:09.960 with her, former head of political science at Wright State 1:11:10.240 --> 1:11:13.240 about what looks to be the beginnings of an Israeli 1:11:13.280 --> 1:11:16.200 Hamas broker peace deal, thanks with little help from the 1:11:16.280 --> 1:11:19.320 United States and Tony Blair of the UK. Coming up 1:11:19.400 --> 1:11:21.919 more Sterling here, home of the Reds, Home of the Bengals, 1:11:22.120 --> 1:11:25.680 Home of the Musketeers, and those football Bearcats. Taken on 1:11:25.760 --> 1:11:30.480 Iowa State Tomorrow noon kickoff here seven hundred WLW Cincinnati, 1:11:30.800 --> 1:11:35.440 and Friday night the tri State. Unusually warm leading into October, 1:11:35.520 --> 1:11:38.240 not quite the as so bad as it could be. 1:11:39.240 --> 1:11:41.720 I remember cold and rain and a lot of high 1:11:41.720 --> 1:11:45.000 school football. Nine updates on score sooner than later. Conversation 1:11:45.120 --> 1:11:47.800 with doctor Donald Schleck, a Right State University former head 1:11:47.800 --> 1:11:52.080 of political science now professor Merida. We'll get an earful 1:11:52.240 --> 1:11:55.280 about what looks to be a positive news about a 1:11:55.280 --> 1:11:58.360 broker peace deal and an agreement between Israel and Hamas. 1:11:58.400 --> 1:12:00.880 We'll see how that plays out coming up after your 1:12:00.880 --> 1:12:04.280 eleven thirty report. Between then and now, continue on a 1:12:04.280 --> 1:12:06.600 little of this conversation. Actually, I have a lot of 1:12:06.640 --> 1:12:08.000 things I want to get to in a short amount 1:12:08.040 --> 1:12:12.680 of time. Mentioning earlier about the outcome and the sentencing 1:12:12.840 --> 1:12:16.200 of Sean Ditty Colms used to be puff daddy, a 1:12:16.200 --> 1:12:18.120 puffy whatever you want to call Hi, Pete didty, it 1:12:18.120 --> 1:12:21.680 doesn't matter. Inmate number whatever you want to call it. 1:12:21.960 --> 1:12:25.800 Looking away now to fifty months locked up just over 1:12:25.920 --> 1:12:31.240 four years for two prostitution a prostitution related charges with 1:12:31.320 --> 1:12:35.400 the prosecution that successfully convicted him some three months ago, 1:12:35.439 --> 1:12:39.160 about ninety days it was sentencing, coming out today, could 1:12:39.200 --> 1:12:41.800 have faced something in the neighborhood of eleven years and 1:12:41.880 --> 1:12:44.840 a couple extra months associated with that. I ask you, 1:12:44.920 --> 1:12:48.960 is that fair? Is reasonable judgment? Judgment? And because it 1:12:49.000 --> 1:12:50.760 is the oldest profession in the book, But there's a 1:12:50.760 --> 1:12:53.880 difference between somebody deciding to do that as a line 1:12:53.920 --> 1:12:57.040 of work and revenue generation as a job for one 1:12:57.040 --> 1:12:59.320 of a better way to describe it, so called oldest 1:12:59.320 --> 1:13:03.400 profession there is, and being forced into it to be traffic, 1:13:03.479 --> 1:13:07.120 to be abused, to be beaten for somebody else's profit. 1:13:08.040 --> 1:13:10.840 In this is really sort of what that boiled down to. 1:13:11.479 --> 1:13:13.439 If you are a woman. If you are a mother, 1:13:13.640 --> 1:13:17.880 a daughter, a sister, a grandmother, you name it an 1:13:17.920 --> 1:13:20.760 aunt whatever it is. I know I was raised by 1:13:20.800 --> 1:13:23.000 a mom who did it on her own. She has 1:13:23.120 --> 1:13:28.559 like four three four sisters, and I'm sympathetic. I love women, 1:13:28.800 --> 1:13:32.160 and one making a choice to do something is one thing. 1:13:32.840 --> 1:13:36.880 One being forced into it. Abused in general is a 1:13:36.920 --> 1:13:40.160 weird thing when you're talking about buying of a person, 1:13:40.479 --> 1:13:44.200 whether it's renting them their parts or otherwise, which is 1:13:44.200 --> 1:13:46.920 sort of what it boils down to their accompaniment whatever 1:13:46.960 --> 1:13:51.920 it is. In general, trafficking of them is an odd scenario. 1:13:52.240 --> 1:13:55.200 But I think freedom of choice for consenting adults is 1:13:55.280 --> 1:13:59.720 one thing. This clearly was something else. Is that time 1:13:59.760 --> 1:14:04.200 away some fifty months legit? Is it reasonable? Is it rational? 1:14:05.320 --> 1:14:10.759 What about the decriminalization of and legality of somehow bringing 1:14:10.800 --> 1:14:13.640 out prostitution in a more controlled way the way it 1:14:13.680 --> 1:14:16.520 is in parts of Nevada and other parts of the world. 1:14:17.040 --> 1:14:19.519 Is that something that would make it safer and more secure? 1:14:20.160 --> 1:14:23.040 Five three, seven, four, nine, seven, eight hundred The big one. 1:14:23.560 --> 1:14:27.960 I asked this before, and I'll restate this. I got 1:14:27.960 --> 1:14:31.479 some hate at Sterling Radio one X about this. Five 1:14:31.479 --> 1:14:35.160 one three seven nine eight hundred, the big one. It 1:14:35.240 --> 1:14:39.040 is something that has always been there, and even legalizing 1:14:39.080 --> 1:14:43.200 it or decriminalizing it, in controlling it, however much safer 1:14:43.280 --> 1:14:46.040 it might make it for those that are the patronage, 1:14:46.240 --> 1:14:48.080 you know, those that are shopping for love for one 1:14:48.120 --> 1:14:49.840 of a better way to describe it, probably not love 1:14:49.880 --> 1:14:53.240 but the love, and or those that are actually doing 1:14:53.240 --> 1:14:58.160 it as their business, you know, health wise, safety, security, 1:14:58.280 --> 1:15:00.479 et cetera. There's always going to be be a black 1:15:00.520 --> 1:15:03.400 market for it. Even though there's legal weed, there's still 1:15:03.439 --> 1:15:07.040 a black market for that and a danger associated with it, 1:15:07.120 --> 1:15:10.519 depending on who you're dealing with and how it rolls. 1:15:10.800 --> 1:15:12.720 I want to know what you think, Tinaz First was 1:15:12.760 --> 1:15:15.360 Sterling appreciate your holding for so long? It with Sterling 1:15:15.400 --> 1:15:18.040 on seven hundred WLW. What do you think about one 1:15:18.080 --> 1:15:21.240 the sentencing of Didy Was it reasonable and just do 1:15:21.280 --> 1:15:23.160 you think? And what about making it legal? 1:15:24.720 --> 1:15:27.240 Well let me find out first. Let me get this right. 1:15:27.280 --> 1:15:29.920 When I first started listening, I thought they said that 1:15:30.240 --> 1:15:33.200 did he got five years eleven years? 1:15:33.360 --> 1:15:33.479 No? 1:15:33.479 --> 1:15:34.320 No, no, he was up. 1:15:34.360 --> 1:15:37.599 He could have faced like eleven years plus he got 1:15:37.640 --> 1:15:41.599 four years for plus time served already, which is somewhere 1:15:41.640 --> 1:15:43.800 in the neighborhood of thirteen months. I think he's already 1:15:43.840 --> 1:15:48.000 been away, so but he'll have another four years behind bars. 1:15:48.680 --> 1:15:51.120 Well, I think that's a travesty to women. 1:15:52.600 --> 1:15:58.080 I think it's hugely disrespectful for our legal system to 1:15:58.240 --> 1:16:01.720 only have given him that much triticularly most of us 1:16:01.720 --> 1:16:04.519 thought he should have gotten twenty years or longer. Not 1:16:04.560 --> 1:16:10.840 only was its sex trafficking, it was very brutal beatings. 1:16:11.360 --> 1:16:13.519 It was you know, they were. 1:16:13.479 --> 1:16:15.959 Threatened with their life. 1:16:16.200 --> 1:16:17.680 You also have the. 1:16:17.720 --> 1:16:21.400 Drug trafficking, and if you're taking it to another country, 1:16:21.680 --> 1:16:27.320 wouldn't that be illegally transferring drugs or transferring drugs internationally, 1:16:27.840 --> 1:16:33.080 which they seem to blow over. I think, you know, truthfully, 1:16:33.120 --> 1:16:37.559 it's embarrassing for our legal teams, our legal systems. There 1:16:37.600 --> 1:16:39.439 was so much that he was in charge for that 1:16:39.520 --> 1:16:42.800 he should have been certainly a whole lot more than 1:16:42.920 --> 1:16:44.800 just prostitution. 1:16:45.400 --> 1:16:49.000 You know, I was just going to ask you, because 1:16:49.840 --> 1:16:51.920 you know, all the talk and it's sort of died 1:16:51.920 --> 1:16:54.280 down because there's just so much in a news cycle 1:16:54.280 --> 1:16:54.840 at this point. 1:16:54.880 --> 1:16:57.320 I mean, it's almost overwhelming a wave of it. 1:16:58.240 --> 1:17:01.760 But you know, the Epstein Fi else those associated with it, 1:17:01.800 --> 1:17:04.679 we know he killed himself allegedly. We know about Elayne 1:17:04.960 --> 1:17:09.280 Maxwell in her circumstance and her sharing of information subsequent 1:17:09.320 --> 1:17:13.200 to her prosecution. Her time away got her a little 1:17:13.240 --> 1:17:15.920 bit of a softer, more livable circumstance, which I think 1:17:16.000 --> 1:17:16.519 is a joke. 1:17:17.040 --> 1:17:17.479 Frankly. 1:17:17.640 --> 1:17:21.160 Yes, that being said, do you think you know what 1:17:21.280 --> 1:17:25.120 about what we don't know now and what is apparently 1:17:25.200 --> 1:17:27.880 yet to be shared openly about all that with the 1:17:27.920 --> 1:17:30.000 Epstein files thing, And I'm not you know, I don't 1:17:30.000 --> 1:17:33.040 care who's involved. Isn't that something that should be also 1:17:33.120 --> 1:17:35.639 thought of, because I mean, this stuff happens all the time. 1:17:36.760 --> 1:17:36.960 Yeah. 1:17:37.000 --> 1:17:39.720 Absolutely, And I think a lot of the hold up 1:17:39.840 --> 1:17:43.519 on you know, the Epstein trials is because there's too 1:17:43.560 --> 1:17:48.000 many political people and too many people in high up positions, 1:17:48.840 --> 1:17:51.840 even from other countries that were involved in the Epstein 1:17:52.160 --> 1:17:55.320 And I think that's that's a travesty that because of that, 1:17:55.520 --> 1:17:58.439 we're not going to really know the truth on all 1:17:58.479 --> 1:18:03.559 of that, And that's I think that's bull crap, you know, 1:18:03.720 --> 1:18:08.479 I mean, the American people are you know, we're kept 1:18:08.520 --> 1:18:11.240 away from so much of the truth because who may 1:18:11.280 --> 1:18:13.880 be involved and what the position is and what money 1:18:13.880 --> 1:18:18.000 they have involved. And not do that way. You know 1:18:18.320 --> 1:18:23.000 who's like has had you know, instances where on on 1:18:23.040 --> 1:18:27.439 my phone that I have gotten news that states a 1:18:27.439 --> 1:18:30.719 lot of different actors that are involved in that as well, 1:18:31.120 --> 1:18:33.439 And I think because of their money and their position, 1:18:34.600 --> 1:18:37.720 is wrong for them not to be named, not for 1:18:37.760 --> 1:18:41.599 the American people to medd the truth. You know, I 1:18:41.640 --> 1:18:43.599 think you know it all boils down to a lot 1:18:43.600 --> 1:18:45.880 of people. Well, it boils down through money and who 1:18:45.920 --> 1:18:46.200 you are. 1:18:46.439 --> 1:18:49.519 Yeah, power, money, power, authority. It It's always been the 1:18:49.560 --> 1:18:52.760 case and it will always be the circumstance. Tina, you 1:18:52.840 --> 1:18:55.879 mentioned something associated with us that I think is relevant 1:18:56.320 --> 1:18:59.120 in thought provoking. So I'll pose the question I've posed 1:18:59.120 --> 1:19:02.439 to others and have mentioned here before, if in fact 1:19:02.479 --> 1:19:06.800 it were decriminalized, if it were controlled, would it make 1:19:06.840 --> 1:19:09.800 it safer and more secure for more people involved, be 1:19:09.840 --> 1:19:13.080 it the customer, the client, one for health, and all 1:19:13.080 --> 1:19:15.800 the other stuff that goes with it. It's already going on, 1:19:15.960 --> 1:19:18.719 It's always been going on. But the difference, of course, 1:19:19.120 --> 1:19:22.200 in the case of Diddy with what he was convicted of, 1:19:22.520 --> 1:19:24.439 with those with the Epstein thing is a little bit 1:19:24.479 --> 1:19:27.679 different because we're talking about underage girls. In many cases 1:19:27.720 --> 1:19:31.320 effectively children kids is really what it is youngteen girls, 1:19:31.560 --> 1:19:33.520 which is really bewildering. 1:19:34.760 --> 1:19:39.240 And that's rage. That's not just sex trafficking. That's also rape. 1:19:39.320 --> 1:19:43.840 Yeah, underage and even women over age that you know 1:19:43.920 --> 1:19:46.679 are forced into it. It's that's rape as well as 1:19:46.720 --> 1:19:50.240 well as the sex trafficking. And don't I don't think, 1:19:50.320 --> 1:19:54.479 I don't believe that it should be any any breaks 1:19:54.520 --> 1:19:57.240 for that money or power. I know I was right 1:19:57.280 --> 1:20:00.240 at eleven years old. I spotted even at a eleven 1:20:00.280 --> 1:20:03.880 years old with my mother and the guy got forty 1:20:04.000 --> 1:20:07.639 years and he did thirty six thirty six with those 1:20:07.680 --> 1:20:10.599 forty And we need to see sentences like that again 1:20:10.960 --> 1:20:14.000 where you know they're giving you know, they do the crime, 1:20:14.400 --> 1:20:17.120 they get sentenced, and they should do the time the 1:20:17.160 --> 1:20:20.400 full time. Too many people are let out early and 1:20:20.439 --> 1:20:22.720 it's another reasons for them to continue doing what they 1:20:22.720 --> 1:20:25.519 were doing. The prostitution has been around as long as 1:20:25.560 --> 1:20:28.640 we know. It doesn't make it right, It shouldn't make 1:20:28.680 --> 1:20:33.200 it legal, it shouldn't make it okay, and certainly it's 1:20:33.200 --> 1:20:35.640 should be treated, you know, to the fullest extent of 1:20:35.720 --> 1:20:38.080 the law. You know, men can go in and do 1:20:38.240 --> 1:20:41.040 time or women if they break the man, which the 1:20:41.120 --> 1:20:45.160 cases are a lot lower, but they do the time, 1:20:45.240 --> 1:20:47.120 and they get off and they go home at the 1:20:47.200 --> 1:20:50.960 end of their time. Women have that memory like I 1:20:51.040 --> 1:20:54.200 have the memory of maybeing rate eleven, and I could 1:20:54.200 --> 1:20:56.639 tell you the whole story beginning to end. And I'm 1:20:56.680 --> 1:21:00.400 sixty one now. So we don't get a break from it. 1:21:00.479 --> 1:21:04.160 We don't get time off for good behavior. You remember 1:21:04.200 --> 1:21:05.479 it for the rest of our life. 1:21:05.520 --> 1:21:10.280 Yeah, your sentenced to that abuse forever. First of all, team, 1:21:10.320 --> 1:21:13.519 I'm sorry that you suffered that. And I can't imagine 1:21:13.560 --> 1:21:17.040 that circumstance and the fact that you went through it 1:21:17.160 --> 1:21:19.760 in a prosecution and they were able to send that 1:21:20.400 --> 1:21:23.040 waste of flesh away for some period of time thirty 1:21:23.080 --> 1:21:26.439 six or forty years. That's something that doesn't happen that often, 1:21:26.520 --> 1:21:28.920 especially in the window of time that you're talking about. 1:21:29.640 --> 1:21:35.200 That's in fact unusual. I will say this that almost 1:21:35.240 --> 1:21:38.000 every woman that I have gotten over the years to 1:21:38.080 --> 1:21:41.559 be friends with, not necessarily dated, but just friends. Even 1:21:42.280 --> 1:21:45.439 the conversation has come up. It is astounding to me 1:21:46.240 --> 1:21:50.280 how many tell me about being abused in some fashion, 1:21:50.360 --> 1:21:53.000 whether it's date rape or some other type of assault. 1:21:54.040 --> 1:21:57.720 I would say sixty percent that I've talked to, if 1:21:57.720 --> 1:22:00.559 it's ever broached in conversation, have told me they victims 1:22:00.560 --> 1:22:02.400 of such activity. 1:22:02.479 --> 1:22:07.360 Yes, yes, And the thing is, and this was in 1:22:07.439 --> 1:22:10.000 seventy five, but we need to go back to that 1:22:10.040 --> 1:22:13.200 same sentence, a kind where you're giving the full extent 1:22:14.400 --> 1:22:17.719 of the penalty and you have to serve that all time. 1:22:18.000 --> 1:22:21.880 There's no getting off for you know, good behavior. That's 1:22:21.920 --> 1:22:22.680 what happened with me. 1:22:22.800 --> 1:22:25.080 They let the guy off once for good behavior. 1:22:25.160 --> 1:22:27.439 He was in jail for five years, and when they 1:22:27.520 --> 1:22:29.800 let him out for good behavior, he came out, he 1:22:29.920 --> 1:22:30.240 got me. 1:22:30.520 --> 1:22:34.160 It was right back in jail. And that's the thing. 1:22:34.280 --> 1:22:34.559 I mean. 1:22:34.800 --> 1:22:40.360 Women don't get a break from time. We remember it forever. Yes, 1:22:40.560 --> 1:22:42.799 I mean I could tell you what happened from moment 1:22:42.840 --> 1:22:47.160 to moment, and that was, you know, in nineteen seventy five. 1:22:47.320 --> 1:22:49.400 So where's my break? Where's my time off? 1:22:50.439 --> 1:22:52.360 But you know, I rely on God? 1:22:52.520 --> 1:22:52.760 Was still. 1:22:52.760 --> 1:22:55.600 Another thing that the country is falling away from is 1:22:55.600 --> 1:22:59.280 the belief in God. The strength that's sad. 1:22:59.040 --> 1:23:02.680 The strength that you you have shown and endured in 1:23:03.080 --> 1:23:05.640 carrying those scars with you. But to pick up the 1:23:05.680 --> 1:23:10.320 phone to you know, contribute to this conversation and share 1:23:10.360 --> 1:23:13.000 that with me, and you know, the tens of thousands, 1:23:13.040 --> 1:23:15.160 if not as Willy likes to say, millions and millions 1:23:15.240 --> 1:23:18.960 listening shows how strong you are. I'm sorry that you 1:23:19.040 --> 1:23:20.920 dealt with that, but I am glad that you've been 1:23:20.920 --> 1:23:25.320 strong enough to endure it as a child effectively to 1:23:25.360 --> 1:23:27.840 put them away, but also to be able to share 1:23:27.880 --> 1:23:28.280 it now. 1:23:29.080 --> 1:23:30.200 So thank you very much. 1:23:31.360 --> 1:23:32.080 Not a problem. 1:23:32.479 --> 1:23:35.840 I mean, I just want to tell people that, you know, 1:23:36.400 --> 1:23:40.760 they don't break us totally. We do remember it for 1:23:40.800 --> 1:23:44.160 a long time and we're somewhat scarred. But you know, 1:23:44.280 --> 1:23:47.880 I have a higher power who who just helps me 1:23:48.680 --> 1:23:51.200 forget the bad parts. And actually I forgave him after 1:23:51.320 --> 1:23:56.080 a number of years. He was sick and I didn't 1:23:56.120 --> 1:23:57.800 know that as a child, but I know it now. 1:23:58.360 --> 1:24:01.840 And the thing is, you still have to go through, 1:24:02.000 --> 1:24:03.960 you have to go on. But they should still be 1:24:04.040 --> 1:24:06.640 punished at the full extent of the law and it 1:24:06.680 --> 1:24:07.360 should stick. 1:24:08.120 --> 1:24:13.200 You know, no getting off. You know, early good behavior 1:24:13.280 --> 1:24:13.920 and booth crap. 1:24:14.120 --> 1:24:16.240 You know, if you had good behavior, you would have 1:24:16.280 --> 1:24:16.599 done it. 1:24:16.960 --> 1:24:19.559 So but I thank you for running the program. I 1:24:19.640 --> 1:24:23.599 love your program. I'm in front Cincinnati, I live in Leumington, Ohio. Now, 1:24:23.840 --> 1:24:26.040 but I always enjoy getting into the van on all 1:24:26.040 --> 1:24:26.479 the road. 1:24:26.360 --> 1:24:29.760 Trip and turning you guys on. Well, Tina, I appreciate yourself. 1:24:29.560 --> 1:24:31.439 I appreciate you listening to being a part of it, 1:24:31.520 --> 1:24:35.960 and just I can't say how in all of you 1:24:36.400 --> 1:24:39.400 being able to comfortably share that, or at least sharing it. 1:24:39.400 --> 1:24:42.479 I don't know how comfortable it was. And hopefully maybe 1:24:42.560 --> 1:24:45.320 you know somebody listening was able to be helped in 1:24:45.360 --> 1:24:48.840 some fashion by hearing your tale and what you've dealt 1:24:48.840 --> 1:24:49.160 with too. 1:24:49.200 --> 1:24:49.960 So thank you very much. 1:24:50.000 --> 1:24:51.400 I hope you enjoyed the rest of your weekend and 1:24:51.400 --> 1:24:53.519 feel free to call back any time. Take care of 1:24:53.600 --> 1:24:56.360 yourself certainly. Well all right, Tina, thank you, God bless 1:24:56.400 --> 1:24:57.439 you pleasure too. 1:24:57.560 --> 1:25:00.599 Thank you, Tina. Quick break will come back. It's wow. 1:25:02.439 --> 1:25:04.960 I can't imagine having to suffer through something like that, 1:25:05.160 --> 1:25:07.920 especially as a child, and to be able to go 1:25:08.000 --> 1:25:16.040 through the prosecution process, the whole judicial system scenario, and 1:25:16.080 --> 1:25:19.840 going back into the seventies it was changing somewhat, but 1:25:20.000 --> 1:25:23.120 a child having to navigate that and to be strong 1:25:23.200 --> 1:25:25.160 enough to deal with that had to have great support 1:25:25.200 --> 1:25:28.120 from family and though those are out there and even 1:25:28.280 --> 1:25:30.120 in the situation in court proceedings. 1:25:30.160 --> 1:25:31.400 So often you hear. 1:25:31.280 --> 1:25:33.519 About it, and you've read about it, and you see 1:25:33.560 --> 1:25:35.559 it in film and everything else. And the people who 1:25:36.040 --> 1:25:39.320 go through such things often or they turn it around 1:25:39.640 --> 1:25:41.840 in a court setting and want to point the finger 1:25:41.840 --> 1:25:44.400 of blame at the victim, which should never ever be 1:25:44.520 --> 1:25:47.760 the case. I'm sterling in. This is seven hundred WLW 1:25:48.439 --> 1:25:51.160 conversation from early with doctor donnad Schleck former had a 1:25:51.200 --> 1:25:54.000 political science at right State, now professor Meredith. You know, 1:25:54.040 --> 1:25:57.519 she's Cincinnati kid talking about the Israel hamas a broker 1:25:57.560 --> 1:26:00.000 peace deal with the help of President Trump the United States. 1:26:00.120 --> 1:26:03.639 Dates and Tony Blair from the UK, former Prime Minister. 1:26:03.720 --> 1:26:07.800 There details on that and great insights from her. Back 1:26:07.840 --> 1:26:12.920 again tomorrow with Donna d in the afternoon following UC football, 1:26:12.960 --> 1:26:16.360 Bearcats looking to take on Iowa State. They're unbeaten five 1:26:16.400 --> 1:26:19.600 and oh ranked fourteen in the country. You see Bearcats 1:26:19.840 --> 1:26:23.479 three and one and Big twelve action. Of course, some 1:26:23.479 --> 1:26:26.280 of that going on right now BYU hosting West Virginia 1:26:26.800 --> 1:26:30.080 leading fourteen to three. What else is going on? Oh 1:26:30.280 --> 1:26:35.000 FC Cincinnati they're doing it tomorrow night as well. They 1:26:35.000 --> 1:26:38.120 take on New York and I think it's an Apple 1:26:38.200 --> 1:26:41.200 TV game if I'm not mistaken. And they're playing on 1:26:41.240 --> 1:26:44.799 the road in Harrison, New Jersey at Sports Illustrated Stadium. 1:26:45.040 --> 1:26:48.559 So there is that. What else is there? 1:26:48.640 --> 1:26:48.800 Oh? 1:26:48.840 --> 1:26:53.519 Well, Bengals Lions Sunday afternoon, late kickoff like four point 1:26:53.520 --> 1:26:55.960 thirty four to twenty five. Hopefully the Bengals can get 1:26:55.960 --> 1:26:58.120 back on the winning side of things. Two and oho 1:26:58.160 --> 1:27:01.519 to start, Joe's Toad became initial zero and two with 1:27:01.680 --> 1:27:04.840 Jake Browning under center trying to rework the offense as 1:27:04.880 --> 1:27:08.000 seemingly all the wheels came off. Hopefully they'll get it 1:27:08.040 --> 1:27:09.840 back together and maybe shock the world. I think it's 1:27:09.880 --> 1:27:11.759 a ten and that last the last time I looked, 1:27:12.280 --> 1:27:14.080 Drew wester Heidie correct me if I'm wrong. I think 1:27:14.120 --> 1:27:16.320 it was a ten and a half point spread. And 1:27:16.360 --> 1:27:20.320 it's not for the well the Bengal Tigers that we've 1:27:20.320 --> 1:27:23.200 got right, Yeah, So we've got big cats looking to 1:27:23.240 --> 1:27:25.880 maul each other at Pacoorps down on the River and 1:27:25.960 --> 1:27:28.479 on the big one straight away. Lee Mawen has news 1:27:28.680 --> 1:27:31.759 conversation with Donna Schlake on the other side back again tomorrow, 1:27:31.760 --> 1:27:35.840 also with Donna d right here on seven hundred WLW