Speaker 1: As from a two and zero start to zero and
Speaker 1: two with Jake Browning on her center after Joe's toe
Speaker 1: became an issue and the Lions coming to town looking
Speaker 1: to maul the Whoday tinding up to give us some
Speaker 1: time for ESPN Nation. We've had him on the show
Speaker 1: a bunch in the past. He covers those who day Bengals,
Speaker 1: Ben Baby, how are you? How is everything? And is
Speaker 1: this ten and a half point line that I see
Speaker 1: favoring the Lions an understatement of this situation?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, always good to be on with you, Stirling,
Speaker 2: And that is a massive line for people who don't know,
Speaker 2: a double digit line in the NFL is very uncommon.
Speaker 3: I think you have to go all the way back.
Speaker 2: For the Bengals to be, you know, especially when you
Speaker 2: look at where the Bengals are right now. And the
Speaker 2: last time that was the Bengals with this big of
Speaker 2: a home underdog was Week eighteen of the twenty twenty season.
Speaker 2: Going into that game, the Bengals were without nough Burrow,
Speaker 2: the coaching staff was about to get a big shake
Speaker 2: up at the end of Zach Taylor's second year, and
Speaker 2: they definitely played like it in that game. The Ravens
Speaker 2: and at winning thirty eight to three. Before where that
Speaker 2: you go back to the infamous Monday Night football game
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty where Ryan Finley somehow beat the Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: Steelers and shift at the momentum for the franchise for
Speaker 2: the next season. You know that that's the last time
Speaker 2: the Bengals have been this big of an underdog. So
Speaker 2: you know, I think it goes to show where they're
Speaker 2: at and they're going to need a special performance to
Speaker 2: it to somehow find a way to beat the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 4: This team.
Speaker 1: By the way, Ben Baby from ESPN was sterling on
Speaker 1: the Big One talking Bengals and Lions Sunday afternoon at
Speaker 1: pay Corps and on seven hundred WLW. You know, it's
Speaker 1: not just the offense that has struggled. This defense, which
Speaker 1: we thought was so much better and look pretty solid
Speaker 1: the first two weeks, seemed to the last couple of
Speaker 1: weeks finds itself rated about the worst in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like that the boat is leaking
Speaker 1: from a whole lot of holes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think the big thing with the defense,
Speaker 2: and you talk folks inside the building, I think there's
Speaker 2: an understanding that the offense has really put the defense
Speaker 2: in a bad position.
Speaker 5: Now, I think.
Speaker 2: Everyone will also say the defense needs to create more turnovers.
Speaker 2: We heard Al Golden talk about that this week. In
Speaker 2: his first year's defensive coordinator, it's been hard to gauge
Speaker 2: kind of where things are at because that offense has
Speaker 2: struggled so much. The defense been on the field for
Speaker 2: so many snaps. They did a good job relatively in
Speaker 2: the second half against Denver early and getting stops with
Speaker 2: the offense just could not capitalize. That Minnesota game was
Speaker 2: really spiraled from them. But you know, you go back
Speaker 2: and look, I think they were fortunate in those first
Speaker 2: two games to come away with wins because you know,
Speaker 2: you had some drops, you had some ill timed, you know,
Speaker 2: mistakes from the other team. You see the missfield goals
Speaker 2: against Cleveland, and maybe if those things don't happen, you're
Speaker 2: staring at zero to four instead of.
Speaker 3: Two and two right now.
Speaker 2: And so you know, maybe that is more of an
Speaker 2: indicative of where this team's at. But you know, I
Speaker 2: think that we'll get a better glimpse as to what
Speaker 2: this defense will look like once the offense gets rolling,
Speaker 2: if and whenever that actually does happen.
Speaker 1: What do you think the biggest problem is? I understand
Speaker 1: obviously that this offense has been built around Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: We saw Jake Browning step up in the past. That's
Speaker 1: why he got the deal that he did to stay,
Speaker 1: because he proved himself to be able to get it
Speaker 1: done in in a tenuous situation, which is probably the
Speaker 1: best way to describe what he's walked into here again
Speaker 1: in this but he's got more interceptions than touchdowns and
Speaker 1: adjusting this to what Jake does. How challenging is that?
Speaker 1: Is that the biggest problem? Or are there just that
Speaker 1: many holes in what we thought was going to be
Speaker 1: this offense of power?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think it's it's it's hard to
Speaker 2: say what exactly is going wrong here, right, I think
Speaker 2: it's unfair to say it's all on Jake Browning. You
Speaker 2: know that they came in in twenty twenty three when
Speaker 2: he when he came in place of Joe Burrow, they
Speaker 2: looked serviceable. They were still able to find wins. And
Speaker 2: you know, I think this year when you look at
Speaker 2: the splits, you know, the inability to convert on third
Speaker 2: downs has been a problem, and ability for Jake to
Speaker 2: do well when pressured. That's been that's been a big
Speaker 2: concern this season. I think that's where that area where
Speaker 2: he has to get better.
Speaker 3: But also, you know, you.
Speaker 2: Have to find ways to find better wins, easier you know,
Speaker 2: easier completions. Maybe for Browning, see if you can get
Speaker 2: him some good one on one situations with Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2: You know, now that the Bengals face two challenging fronts
Speaker 2: in what Denver in Minnesota have, can they find a
Speaker 2: more advantageous position against the Lions.
Speaker 3: You know, we'll see. I think there's some confidence.
Speaker 2: That they will be better this week, but you know,
Speaker 2: I think they do need a good showing, you know,
Speaker 2: regardless of whether they win or lose, to give them
Speaker 2: a little bit of confidence moving forward, because right now,
Speaker 2: I mean this is so one if you statistically, one
Speaker 2: of the worst stretches in franchise history, what happened these
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks getting out you know, our lopside
Speaker 2: that these results have been and so if you're able
Speaker 2: to get some momentum, I think that's going to be huge.
Speaker 2: And you know, it's as simple as maybe running the
Speaker 2: ball and in finding easy completions.
Speaker 1: Talking to Ben Baby for me ESPN Nation about Bengals
Speaker 1: Lions Sunday Lions three and one. The Who Day at
Speaker 1: five hundred and two and two started two and zero
Speaker 1: zero and two with Jake Browning. It's not all on him.
Speaker 1: I absolutely one hundred percent agree with you. Is you
Speaker 1: look at what they're facing with the Lions, do you
Speaker 1: see weaknesses or they are there opportunities for this Bengals
Speaker 1: team to find a way not just to be competitive,
Speaker 1: but where they have an opportunity really to send the
Speaker 1: Lions back home to Detroit up seventy five as losers.
Speaker 3: I think that if.
Speaker 2: You're able to go out and jump on them early,
Speaker 2: if you're able to you know, if the Bengals are
Speaker 2: able to win the toss, it might be as easy
Speaker 2: as that and almost like you're in cricket, you know,
Speaker 2: when in the toss gives you a great chance of winning.
Speaker 3: Here it's a little bit different.
Speaker 2: But the Bengals can win the toss, go out and
Speaker 2: score a touchdown early, you know, get the lines and
Speaker 2: make some mistakes or force some mistakes and be able
Speaker 2: to play with the lead. I think that's your best
Speaker 2: chance against them, you know, Jamar Chase and t Higgins,
Speaker 2: if they can find a way, find a way to
Speaker 2: be involved against a line secondary that's been a little
Speaker 2: susceptible at times. You know, I think if they can
Speaker 2: find a way to maybe match up against carry On
Speaker 2: Arnold a little bit, that would be a prime matchup
Speaker 2: for them. When you look at the numbers, you know,
Speaker 2: so I think it's gonna be that's your best bet,
Speaker 2: you know. Otherwise, you know you're looking at a Lion's
Speaker 2: offense that's really doesn't have any weaknesses. Jared Goff playing
Speaker 2: really well. I'm on Ross Saint Brown, two time All Pro.
Speaker 2: You look at the running backs they call him Sonic
Speaker 2: and Knuckles and David Montgomery.
Speaker 3: A local guy, and Jamior Gibbs.
Speaker 2: You know that there's really not a lot of weaknesses
Speaker 2: on that line's front, and really in the way that
Speaker 2: they use Pine Soul, you know, is really unique they
Speaker 2: view him. I remember talking to Mario Cristobal, who coached
Speaker 2: him in college, and said, you know, Pena is a
Speaker 2: playmaker in our mind. You know, we go out and
Speaker 2: we will scheme out plays knowing that he's going to
Speaker 2: be you know, he's going to be blocking either in
Speaker 2: the run of the pass game and so you know,
Speaker 2: he I think that's going to be an interesting magic
Speaker 2: to watch as well. So you know that that Bengals defense,
Speaker 2: they know what they're going to have their hands full
Speaker 2: on Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 1: Ben, when you you mentioned sul how irregular in outstanding
Speaker 1: is penna when you describe what you just did about
Speaker 1: what he's capable of doing, because you don't hear that
Speaker 1: a lot about tackles like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think that makes him unique is
Speaker 2: that he's got great feet and is really able to
Speaker 2: do so much in both the run in the past
Speaker 2: game you're able to pull him and just because he
Speaker 2: moves so well.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: I think it's why that conversation back in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: one about you know, should you draft Jamar Chase, should
Speaker 2: you take in a sool?
Speaker 3: You know, what is the best option to go there?
Speaker 2: I think for this offense, obviously Jamaar and kind of
Speaker 2: the reps that he had with Joe Burrow got going
Speaker 2: back for the days at LSU, that was a no brainer.
Speaker 2: You see the growth that Jamar Chase has had this year,
Speaker 2: and that's been big. But also I mean you go
Speaker 2: look at it. You know, the Bengals that paid, you know,
Speaker 2: forty million dollars, And this is something that is interesting
Speaker 2: to think about. Well, the Bengals have paid forty one
Speaker 2: million dollars for a receiver. They paid a lot of
Speaker 2: money for Tea Higgins at well three and one fifteen
Speaker 2: four and one fifteen uh for him, and they just
Speaker 2: haven't been able to get them involved. And when you
Speaker 2: spend that kind of money, you ideally want those receivers
Speaker 2: to be to be a major impact. And I don't
Speaker 2: think it's a fault of Jamar and te you know,
Speaker 2: when you is it too dependent?
Speaker 3: Sometimes?
Speaker 2: I think you know, it's going to be a question
Speaker 2: on this wide receiver market moving forward. You know, do
Speaker 2: teams want to continue to give that kind of money
Speaker 2: to receivers knowing how dependent they are on targets and
Speaker 2: other parts of the offense. But you know that that's
Speaker 2: kind of that's a that's a side discussion. But yeah,
Speaker 2: so well, definitely very good. It does a lot of
Speaker 2: great things for that line's offensive line.
Speaker 1: ESPN Nations that Ben Baby was stirling on seven hundred
Speaker 1: WLW talking Bengals and Lions. What have I not asked?
Speaker 1: I always liked to ask because You're in and around
Speaker 1: this organization on the ground all the time, and I
Speaker 1: know enough to know I don't know enough, but there
Speaker 1: are elements of this that are sort of under the
Speaker 1: radar that really make a huge difference other than the obvious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think the big question is going
Speaker 2: to be where does this team go long term? You know,
Speaker 2: can they find a way to kind of rally a
Speaker 2: little bit? I think these next couple of weeks are
Speaker 2: going to be tough. You've got Detroit coming home at
Speaker 2: home and then green Bay a really good team. We're
Speaker 2: going to be a contender to represent the NFC of
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl this year.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: So if you go and lose those games and you
Speaker 2: go you two and four after going to and Oher,
Speaker 2: you know, where does this thing go? I think if
Speaker 2: you're the Bengals, you want to have some kind of
Speaker 2: resolve because skeets soften up in the middle of the
Speaker 2: year and you ideally will have a chance to reel
Speaker 2: off some wins get back to five hundred if they
Speaker 2: lose these next couple of games, Can Jack Taylor keep
Speaker 2: this team together? Can they continue to believe that they
Speaker 2: can be competitive and give hope that maybe if Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow gets healthy at the end of the year, they
Speaker 2: get sneak in the playoffs in salvage some of this season.
Speaker 2: I think that's all stuff that you want to watch.
Speaker 2: And then, you know, I think that's going to be
Speaker 2: fascinating because when you lose the way you have the
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: You wonder what kind of toll that takes on a
Speaker 3: locker room.
Speaker 2: So far, haven't seen any any big issues, but I think,
Speaker 2: you know, those things always can develop the more season
Speaker 2: starts to unravel.
Speaker 1: Now in baseball they call it a grind. The NFL is,
Speaker 1: you know, even worse when it comes to that going
Speaker 1: through it. Not as long, but certainly brutal physically. And
Speaker 1: you just talked about the toll of facing these tougher
Speaker 1: teams early, just struggling to get through that. And that's
Speaker 1: what Jake Browning in that offense a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: was somehow able to do, is find their way to
Speaker 1: get to the open space where they could get some
Speaker 1: wins behind them, and then if Joe is able to
Speaker 1: come back with the toe being in a better place
Speaker 1: to maybe make a run down the way.
Speaker 4: But I get that's a lot of ifs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and so you know, first things first, you know,
Speaker 2: seeing if they can just even look remotely competitive. The
Speaker 2: betters do not think that this is going to be
Speaker 2: a close game. At ten and a half, might as
Speaker 2: well be one hundred in the NFL. And so, you know,
Speaker 2: we'll see what kind of resolved the Bengals continue to
Speaker 2: have as the season, you know, rolls on.
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to figure out how they generally are
Speaker 1: so good at calling these lines overall, because it can
Speaker 1: be frustrating. Is it really possibly that big of a margin,
Speaker 1: you know, on the outset, but they weekend week out,
Speaker 1: it seems like they're pretty close to being on it.
Speaker 1: How is that possible?
Speaker 2: Well, when you've got a lot of money at stake,
Speaker 2: I think you generally try to be good at this.
Speaker 3: And I think over the years they've.
Speaker 2: Got it down sien a point off here, a point
Speaker 2: off there, even a half a point. You've got a
Speaker 2: lot of money writing on it, So I think, you know, ultimately,
Speaker 2: I think a general rule of thumb is that when
Speaker 2: people are paid to do something for a living, they
Speaker 2: generally tend to be pretty good at it.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, and you are good at what you do,
Speaker 1: Ben Baby ESPN Nation seem all over ESPN here in
Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty and kind enough to give us some
Speaker 1: time here on a Friday night, the weekend with Sterling.
Speaker 4: Thank you, my man.
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed the rest of it, and hopefully Sunday,
Speaker 1: maybe the Bengals will surprise everybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sounds good. Thanks Sterling, take.
Speaker 1: Care of yourself more Sterling coming back. Seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: Thanks seven hundred WLW Sterling back seat red Someone twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five season in the books. We'll spend some Friday
Speaker 1: nights together, at least, I think so, Drew, keep me
Speaker 1: in line, mister Western Heidi. We got Lee Malwood news
Speaker 1: coming up in a while, Jack Crumley before that, about
Speaker 1: four and a half minutes, and former head of political science,
Speaker 1: doctor Donna Schleck at Wright State going to join us now,
Speaker 1: Professor Mayer to talk about what rumblings now you've heard
Speaker 1: in the news. You will get another update in about
Speaker 1: four minutes. Is Israel and Hamas apparently very close, maybe
Speaker 1: possibly to a peace deal maybe, so we'll pick her
Speaker 1: brain about that and the government shutdown of course that
Speaker 1: we're all navigating it, and I realize it's Friday, and
Speaker 1: part of me wants to just goof off, have fun
Speaker 1: and put that serious stuff on the back burner. But
Speaker 1: we'll get some details on it because it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Also movie stuff, Kevin Carr Fat Guys at the movies,
Speaker 1: he also confining silver Gecko on Substack, will join us
Speaker 1: talk about the new deal e Leonardo DiCaprio movie, some
Speaker 1: other stuff going on, and a lot of other ground
Speaker 1: to cover as well. We're short on time here before
Speaker 1: the news, but I want to mention this because it's
Speaker 1: I had the I don't know if i'd say it's
Speaker 1: the weirdest conversation. I have a lot of weird conversations,
Speaker 1: I believe it or not. But shopping yesterday, I grab
Speaker 1: some Halloween candy. Usually I have leftovers, which I consume
Speaker 1: throughout the year because we don't get a lot of kids,
Speaker 1: which is fine, So I buy candy that I like
Speaker 1: that I want, so I'm not stuck with crap that
Speaker 1: I don't like and I don't want, which maybe is
Speaker 1: a bad choice because I'm the one eating most of it. However,
Speaker 1: I'm talking to a buddy of mine and he tells
Speaker 1: me that he's put the kaibash on the trick or
Speaker 1: treating at their house. Not for his kids, which are
Speaker 1: a little bit older now like in high school, there's
Speaker 1: are probably out the stealing bags.
Speaker 4: No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: His kids are upstanding of fine citizens, probably, But he
Speaker 1: tells me that it's too expensive, that he's seen the
Speaker 1: price of candy go up and he's done with it
Speaker 1: because of the chocolate prices and stuff along those lines.
Speaker 1: So a little later we'll get into that too.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: We hear mixed signals about the economy, how it's doing
Speaker 1: and not.
Speaker 4: What do they say?
Speaker 1: It's a recession if it's your neighbor that's in trouble
Speaker 1: having problems, it's depression. If it's you that are having
Speaker 1: personal problems when it comes to money, stuff and jobs
Speaker 1: and whatnot. But when people are cutting back on the
Speaker 1: idea a candy for the kids at Halloween, I start
Speaker 1: to scratch my head and go, is you know, my
Speaker 1: neighbor just getting old and crodgety or whatever, or they legitimately,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe touched upon and scratched upon a real
Speaker 1: itch that's out there, which is people sort of not
Speaker 1: wanting to cough up the cash because maybe these are
Speaker 1: harder times and some would think or hope or want
Speaker 1: in the midst of everything going on, including the government
Speaker 1: shutdown that we're in the midst of right now.
Speaker 4: So we'll touch on that.
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering because I mean, I got my receis,
Speaker 1: I got some TUTSI rolls, and I got some blowpops.
Speaker 1: Those are all things that I like that I understand
Speaker 1: that I can appreciate. I don't do the smarties, I
Speaker 1: don't do all the weird wax candies. I spend good
Speaker 1: money on the candy because I know what I like,
Speaker 1: and I'm tired over the years of accumulating candy when
Speaker 1: the kids haven't shown up, even going back to COVID
Speaker 1: times when I get the got the big PVC pipe
Speaker 1: tube that I was able to toss some candy through
Speaker 1: that so I would not put the kids in danger
Speaker 1: of them and me because they're they're germ monsters generally,
Speaker 1: and very few kids came then. And then I just
Speaker 1: had extra PVC pipe, which I mean, you can never
Speaker 1: have too much of. That just didn't think in case
Speaker 1: things go weird or whatever else. So we'll touch on
Speaker 1: that a bit later. I just don't know how bad
Speaker 1: does it have to be for someone to be in
Speaker 1: a situation when you're like, I'm not buying candy.
Speaker 4: For the kids.
Speaker 1: My guess is they'll be talking more hooligans and vandalism
Speaker 1: and windows, soapd and toilet papering of trees and houses
Speaker 1: as a result of that. If kids still do that
Speaker 1: type of thing today's world, kids might end up getting
Speaker 1: shot they start tpeeing and soaping windows. But when I
Speaker 1: was coming up, it was a very common circumstance, not
Speaker 1: even just Halloween time, just because kids were bored and
Speaker 1: you know, out after high school football, which we'll give
Speaker 1: you some scores by the way, because it is football
Speaker 1: Friday night, straight away, the latest on the shutdown, what
Speaker 1: could be a broker peace deal or at least the
Speaker 1: very beginning of talk of maybe some success in that
Speaker 1: route with Jack Crumbley in the news and the other side,
Speaker 1: former head of political science at Wright State, doctor donnah
Speaker 1: Schlaheck joins me as well, it's a Friday night, Stirling,
Speaker 1: glad you're along. It's a beautiful night, warmer than normal,
Speaker 1: not feeling like football weather, not feeling like fall, but
Speaker 1: it is just the same. On the home of your reds,
Speaker 1: and of course the whoday they play here seven hundred
Speaker 1: WLW shaken.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: After this period of time there is talk in Israeli
Speaker 1: and Hamas peace steel, or at least rumblings of Hamas
Speaker 1: accepting what terms were given them.
Speaker 4: Is a part of that.
Speaker 1: Settlement with Israel with the United States helped us some
Speaker 1: insight with that, as well as a government shutdown. If
Speaker 1: you hadn't noticed the government shut down, A lot of
Speaker 1: people are a region right Air Force base up in
Speaker 1: Dayton Fairborne, right near Wright State, by the way, the
Speaker 1: largest employer in the region, one of the biggest in
Speaker 1: Ohio for that matter, certainly a lot of people dealing
Speaker 1: with that and the ramifications in the days ahead. Former
Speaker 1: had a political science at Wright State, now professor Meredith.
Speaker 1: She is a Cincinnati kid, always lending great perspective and
Speaker 1: insight to what's going on in the world and what
Speaker 1: matters to us here in the Tri State. Is doctor
Speaker 1: Dona Schlank. Welcome back to the Big one. Seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 7: How's it going, hi, Sterling. It has been quite a day,
Speaker 7: hasn't it.
Speaker 1: It certainly has. Let's start with Israel Hamas in that circumstance,
Speaker 1: because initially I get all these push messages to my
Speaker 1: random device is saying, hey, there's a deal that's been broken,
Speaker 1: but it's not actually fully done. And we've talked for
Speaker 1: however long this has been since October seventh, twenty three,
Speaker 1: in the horrible events that took place there with the
Speaker 1: kidnapping and the murders of all those people in the
Speaker 1: version into Israel, and what's gone on subsequent to that,
Speaker 1: but for so many years before that, do you think
Speaker 1: that this is a legitimate, sustainable circumstance that we're talking
Speaker 1: about with peace as these deals in details of this
Speaker 1: are coming out.
Speaker 7: Guardedly, guardedly hopeful, but it is a very important step.
Speaker 7: It also coincides with the expected soon to be Peace
Speaker 7: Prize nominations, but we'll we'll see what happens.
Speaker 8: In Sweden.
Speaker 7: The signal from Hamas was pretty plain on yes, all
Speaker 7: forty eight of the last of the hostages, about twenty
Speaker 7: of whom are still living with that big butt, right,
Speaker 7: that's the condition and literally specified the need to meet
Speaker 7: certain conditions on the ground unspecified, but one might think
Speaker 7: it may take them some time, certainly before the Sunday
Speaker 7: deadline that President Trump had previously said, but it may
Speaker 7: take some time for them to bring those hostages and
Speaker 7: the remains of the hostages who've died in captivity. Two
Speaker 7: years of this sterling two years. Israeli public opinion is
Speaker 7: all over the place too. But it would appear that
Speaker 7: they have said yes to the hostages, which is their
Speaker 7: massive point of leverage, right yes to the hostages release,
Speaker 7: which will bring many Palestinians released in many detainees, probably
Speaker 7: over one thousand to be released as well. Those take
Speaker 7: a little bit of time to coordinate. But what I
Speaker 7: find really interesting in this package that President Trump has
Speaker 7: put forward, and Hamas says they're accepting the first stage
Speaker 7: of it. But you know who, Tony Blair is the
Speaker 7: Prime minister, former Prime Minister's one who helped negotiate the
Speaker 7: end of terrorism and violence in Northern Ireland and put
Speaker 7: together an amnesty package. You lay down your arms, you
Speaker 7: sign an oath to renounce violence. You can stay or
Speaker 7: you can peaceably leave. So they've actually announced that component
Speaker 7: of this agreement as well. This is more, much more
Speaker 7: than we have seen in the past, and President Trump
Speaker 7: has weighed in with a very very unequivocal signal to
Speaker 7: Israel the bombing in Gaza has to stop immediately, like now.
Speaker 7: So that's a very very strong signal from President Trump.
Speaker 7: The Arab States are lining up to make arrangements for
Speaker 7: probably a primarily Muslim or Arab force that will enter
Speaker 7: the area to begin the disarmament process as well. Peace
Speaker 7: are beginning to move at this point in time, and
Speaker 7: it may look really slow, but it strikes me that
Speaker 7: they're moving very quickly. That two year anniversary I think
Speaker 7: was something that President Trump did not want to see
Speaker 7: happen without some movement. So I am very impressed with
Speaker 7: what Tony Blair has brought to the table. You know,
Speaker 7: so many more complicated plans and negotiations to follow, but
Speaker 7: this scenario changes dramatically. If those hostages are released, then
Speaker 7: I'm pretty confident that the Israeli forces will begin to
Speaker 7: pull back. It won't happen, you know, fast enough to
Speaker 7: meet hum often the Palestinian people. I do believe that
Speaker 7: the Palestinian population in Gaza overwhelmingly wants to see this
Speaker 7: cease fire and an end to the conflict. We have
Speaker 7: no way of knowing right what public opinion there is,
Speaker 7: but sterling more happening in a positive direction, with all
Speaker 7: the caveats that we have to put on this negotiation.
Speaker 7: It was a yes, It was a yes.
Speaker 8: But this is a.
Speaker 7: Really complicated not too untie, and forty eight families in
Speaker 7: Israel now probably have more hope than they have had
Speaker 7: in the past two years. In total, American leadership here
Speaker 7: to bring this to the point where it can happen
Speaker 7: if the principles are willing, you know, to take some
Speaker 7: risks on both sides. This despite the difficulties of the
Speaker 7: shutdown and the government here, this is one of the
Speaker 7: you know, the most hopeful developments. It started on Monday
Speaker 7: there stood President Trump alongside Benjamin not in Yejo saying
Speaker 7: he accepts these conditions and having gone, you know, much
Speaker 7: further in the end the war process than many of
Speaker 7: many of us thought possible. So this is a Trump plan.
Speaker 7: It's incredibly complicated. It has not been fleshed out nearly
Speaker 7: in the detail that it will require. I'm impressed that
Speaker 7: they brought somebody on board with hands on experience. How
Speaker 7: do you stop the shooting, you know, disarm the combatants,
Speaker 7: and then lay the groundwork for a future state where
Speaker 7: people live in peace. Tony Blair actually has that experience.
Speaker 7: I know he's been criticized in the media lately because
Speaker 7: of his roles supporting the US in the Iraq War,
Speaker 7: But I think the valuable lesson is what they did
Speaker 7: in Northern Ireland. That was nineteen ninety eight when those
Speaker 7: piece accords were announced. I had the good luck of
Speaker 7: being in New York at the time and literally sitting
Speaker 7: in the company of the Consul General for Northern Ireland
Speaker 7: and the President of Shin Fame who'd been working on
Speaker 7: it for years.
Speaker 1: Right now, the troubles on for an extremely long period
Speaker 1: of time. I know there's been some rumblings there of
Speaker 1: some of that coming back, but nothing like the horrible
Speaker 1: circumstance that was in Northern Ireland.
Speaker 4: UH for so long.
Speaker 7: Nothing there there. Northern Irish Parliament is open, they've been
Speaker 7: holding elections. The shootings, the bombings in the ira and
Speaker 7: the Protestant paramilitaries put their arms beyond access. Amnesties were
Speaker 7: issued and do you know what party will head the
Speaker 7: Catholic community. It will be Shin Fame, which used to
Speaker 7: be called the political arm of the ira UH. And
Speaker 7: just it tells us that Humus is not going away forever.
Speaker 7: They haven't promised that, but sterling more light, more hope
Speaker 7: than we have seen in the in this situation. Uh,
Speaker 7: the President has put a pretty impressive package together, lined
Speaker 7: up every single important Arab and Muslim state to be
Speaker 7: part of trying to bring it to reality.
Speaker 4: That's a lot.
Speaker 7: Now, it's good, It's a whole lot. And now it's
Speaker 7: going to require a really deep breath and some real
Speaker 7: courage on the part of both the Israelis and the
Speaker 7: Palestinians to see if they can change their destiny. It
Speaker 7: looks like they may have that opportunity.
Speaker 1: Talking to the former head of political science at Wright
Speaker 1: State University, doctor Donna Schlek, now Professor Amerita from Cincinnati, here,
Speaker 1: this Israeli Hamas issue and in that Middle Eastern turmoil circumstance,
Speaker 1: I mean it has gone on for much longer, preceding
Speaker 1: the hostage taking and the killings and the murders and
Speaker 1: the incursion into Israel that happened on the seventh of October.
Speaker 1: So the question is, I guess you know, because initial
Speaker 1: it was Amas has to go. And you mentioned something
Speaker 1: very interesting in that no one really knows the people
Speaker 1: on the ground and how they feel about it. But
Speaker 1: they've been effectively, in so many cases displaced, killed, and
Speaker 1: you name it, for all this period of time, effectively
Speaker 1: bombed back into the Stone Ages. I can't imagine anyone
Speaker 1: living through that, amongst the rubble of all of that,
Speaker 1: not wanting to find any way possible to get to
Speaker 1: some place a piece in whatever normalcy can be, because it's
Speaker 1: going to take decades for that to be built back up,
Speaker 1: to be a liveable place of some kind.
Speaker 7: In any way, Yeah, it is going to be one
Speaker 7: big infrastructure project. There are going to be jobs, jobs,
Speaker 7: jobs for Palestinians to rebuild their country. The Arab States
Speaker 7: want peace in the region. President Trump's Abraham Accords may
Speaker 7: be extended much more broadly. The remedy in Northern Ireland
Speaker 7: was get them to stop shooting, begin the disarmament, and
Speaker 7: then begin an economic development program, because if you can
Speaker 7: offer young people some hope, perhaps a job, a family,
Speaker 7: et cetera, they will not be inclined to take the
Speaker 7: twenty dollars a month stipe then that the IRA may
Speaker 7: have been offering, or whatever Humus is paying their supporters.
Speaker 7: Now I wonder we've got five or ten thousand humaff fighters.
Speaker 7: This disarmament process will be fascinating to watch. It's going
Speaker 7: to be labor intensive. President Trump has promised American support
Speaker 7: in the role, but hands on on the ground. This
Speaker 7: needs to be perhaps the biggest collaborative, constructive project that
Speaker 7: the leading Arab states in the region have ever engaged in.
Speaker 7: It is, you know, talk about turning a major corner,
Speaker 7: addressing a continuing grievance and source of violence in their neighborhood.
Speaker 7: And for israelis the end of the war, the return
Speaker 7: of the hostages, but perhaps a different way of living
Speaker 7: in the future as well. A lot of risks, a
Speaker 7: lot of distrust, massive amounts of distrust on both sides.
Speaker 7: And yet the desire and the plan that the President
Speaker 7: and his team will be fleshing out and Arab states,
Speaker 7: the wealthy oil states are going to be asked to
Speaker 7: underwrite a lot of this.
Speaker 1: What does that mean to cost of fuel by the way,
Speaker 1: because I mean, you know, will they increase their cost
Speaker 1: or price to us? And I mean that's a lot
Speaker 1: of economy conversation there. But even though we produce and
Speaker 1: have more than basically anyone on the planet at this point,
Speaker 1: we still get petroleum products from that part of the
Speaker 1: world as well. If they're trying to use that money
Speaker 1: or use those bits of fuel and so forth in
Speaker 1: that process to generate the wealth necessary to build back
Speaker 1: from what is effectively the stone age in this process,
Speaker 1: who's going to pay for that in the end? I mean,
Speaker 1: it's whoever purchases the fuel source.
Speaker 7: Yes, I think Americans are always interested in that question
Speaker 7: about the price of petroleum. But the last time the
Speaker 7: oil producing states in the region met, they decided to slightly,
Speaker 7: you know, hold constant or slightly increase their production, trying
Speaker 7: to put more pressure on the Russians as well, who
Speaker 7: are very cash desperate in selling their petroleum. So the wealthy,
Speaker 7: wealthy Arab states have those massive funds that they can
Speaker 7: fall back on if the price of oil has to
Speaker 7: come down. Their economies are not like the Russians are
Speaker 7: today dependent upon you know, the income on it almost
Speaker 7: on a daily basis, from the price of oil. To
Speaker 7: righte the world's leading producer is the United States, which
Speaker 7: is on a path under President Trump's leadership to continue
Speaker 7: to increase production. So when the market is soft and
Speaker 7: full of oil, the price tends to come down. And
Speaker 7: when the area is not ripe for another major violent upheaval. Again,
Speaker 7: the price can remain firm if going to the you know,
Speaker 7: the lower side as well. That is one price that
Speaker 7: they are able to pay. But the projects to rebuild
Speaker 7: Gaza in ten years, we may not be able to
Speaker 7: recognize the region it. I mean, it has the human capital,
Speaker 7: it has the potential. The money is going to come in.
Speaker 7: If the violence stops, so many things become possible. And
Speaker 7: then this is the Trump plan, that is, that's what
Speaker 7: it's going to be known as. If it fails, if
Speaker 7: it succeeds, and there's so many ways it can go
Speaker 7: off the rail. But we haven't seen process progress like
Speaker 7: this for two years now. Although we've been hopeful this
Speaker 7: is it's a substance's turn, and Hamas has actually said, yes,
Speaker 7: the hostages will be coming out, maybe within a week.
Speaker 7: I think it will be fairly soon. Once this thing begins,
Speaker 7: I know the Americans will want to keep the process going,
Speaker 7: accelerate it, get more planning in place for what comes
Speaker 7: after the IDF withdrawal, for example. So there's going to
Speaker 7: be a lot of development opportunities, lots of contracts, lots
Speaker 7: of ways to attract young Palestinians into rebuilding their country
Speaker 7: rather than having to go out and die for it.
Speaker 1: Doctor Donish likes the former head of political science at
Speaker 1: Wright State and now Professor Mariager. Talking about this Israeli
Speaker 1: hamas Trump broker peace deal is planned, it seems to
Speaker 1: be moving a little bit closer to fruition. You mentioned
Speaker 1: something interesting about the rebuilding. You mentioned about the cost
Speaker 1: sharing with that of course for those other countries in
Speaker 1: the region to go along with it, which reminds me
Speaker 1: then after say World War Two, the Marshall Plan and
Speaker 1: everything that went into helping to build back Germany and
Speaker 1: so forth in a little different circumstance. As devastated as
Speaker 1: it was societally speaking, I mean, there is nothing much
Speaker 1: left at all in Gaza.
Speaker 4: I mean it is.
Speaker 1: It looks like a moonscape, almost in an uninhabitable circumstance.
Speaker 1: So every element of society, it appears, is going to
Speaker 1: have to somehow be brought back. And something leading from
Speaker 1: the initial conversation is this conflict escalated as it is
Speaker 1: on October seventh, October eighth of twenty twenty three, is
Speaker 1: that with people suffering through what it has become, how
Speaker 1: do you keep those that have survived it, who have
Speaker 1: had to endure it multiple generations, to not have that bitterness,
Speaker 1: that resentment, that a bloodlust and hunger for retaliation for
Speaker 1: what has come to be their reality. There be it
Speaker 1: towards Omas, towards Israel, towards the West, or otherwise.
Speaker 7: And that is why the prospective hope of rebuilding, rebuilding
Speaker 7: something better for the children that have had to live
Speaker 7: through the last two years, the families, the people who
Speaker 7: have fled, et cetera. When that element of hope for
Speaker 7: something better, and that's what has been put on the table.
Speaker 7: Willhammad survived this, Will they reappear later under a new
Speaker 7: name and as a political party, could very well happen,
Speaker 7: but something's been put on the table. All the Arab
Speaker 7: states who had previously supported, you know, the arms struggle
Speaker 7: for a free and an independent Palestine, these are the
Speaker 7: people who will be writing the checks and you know,
Speaker 7: letting the contracts for all of the construction that will
Speaker 7: have to happen. It will be a massive project. There
Speaker 7: will be full employment and that's what will squeeze Humas
Speaker 7: and their appeal out. So how it worked in Northern
Speaker 7: Ireland and we've had going on thirty years now of peace.
Speaker 7: Is it perfect?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 7: Do people live together in complete comfort? No? No, there
Speaker 7: are still a lot of remaining tensions. The Irish and
Speaker 7: the Palestinians, you know, they have those long histories and
Speaker 7: they're always willing to recount them for you. But in
Speaker 7: Northern Ireland they've turned that corner. They're looking forward. You know,
Speaker 7: how do you fit yourself between the EU and Brexit
Speaker 7: and you know all of the complicated questions, but they're
Speaker 7: economic questions now. They're not about going back to the
Speaker 7: armed struggle.
Speaker 1: Well, safety and hope and opportunity and food on a table,
Speaker 1: and safety and security for children and an opportunity for
Speaker 1: some hope for tomorrow is what it's all about. We're
Speaker 1: against the wild time. Perhaps in a week we can
Speaker 1: talk about an open government rather than a shutdown one.
Speaker 4: But we will let you go.
Speaker 1: Great perspective, insight and an update on what has gone
Speaker 1: on in the Middle East down to Washington and what
Speaker 1: does come with the help of President Trump the United States.
Speaker 1: Tony Blair, former Prime Minister of course for the UK
Speaker 1: and Britain and those parties in that part of the world,
Speaker 1: between Israel as well as cutter and across the board,
Speaker 1: Doctor Dona Shleck, former head of political science Right State University,
Speaker 1: now Professor Meredith.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I hope you enjoy the rest
Speaker 4: of your weekend.
Speaker 7: You two sterling Thanks.
Speaker 1: Take care of yourself straight away your ten o'clock report.
Speaker 1: Kevin Carr on the other side, we'll talk weekend movies.
Speaker 1: Good times here Holm of the Hooday seven hundred WLW,
Speaker 1: Cincinnati ULW, Kevin Carr. Fat guys at the movies, Silver
Speaker 1: get go on the sub stacks everywhere, even in your
Speaker 1: mailbox virtually or otherwise. Welcome back to the big one.
Speaker 1: Seven hundred WLW Kevin. How are you how everything Everything's.
Speaker 5: Going pretty well. How are you doing today?
Speaker 4: I have no complaints.
Speaker 1: It was like eighty degrees when I was coming into
Speaker 1: this place tonight on a Friday, on the edge of October.
Speaker 1: I know I'll be complaining about darkness and cold and
Speaker 1: freezing temperatures in snow soon enough. So I'm soaking all
Speaker 1: this up as best I can. And this almost seems
Speaker 1: like it's almost comfortable drive in weather too, when we're
Speaker 1: talking about movies and so forth.
Speaker 4: Even though we are here on a Friday. Football kind
Speaker 4: of night.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, and here's why. You know. It's eighty three
Speaker 5: you said eighty three degrees, but it's low humidity. That's
Speaker 5: the key. And you can sit out and you can
Speaker 5: have a nice breeze come by, and it feels great.
Speaker 5: What's weird is then when the temperature starts dropping at night,
Speaker 5: it gets more and more humid because the air can
Speaker 5: hold less moisture, and then it gets to a point
Speaker 5: where you feel like it's condensing on you. So that
Speaker 5: can get a little uncomfortable. But no, it was beautiful.
Speaker 5: I was out in the park today and I mean
Speaker 5: just scored a little the mosquitoes. But you know, hey,
Speaker 5: you take what to take, what you get.
Speaker 1: A little malaria, it's no big deal. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: Just go to the bathroom a lot.
Speaker 4: That's okay.
Speaker 5: Pleasant things in life. You just got to deal with
Speaker 5: some bloodsucker sometimes.
Speaker 4: And that's the truth on more ways than one.
Speaker 1: All Right, So I know that a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: ago we talked about one battle after another, which is
Speaker 1: a new DiCaprio, and everybody under the sun's in that.
Speaker 1: But that's that's not actually out yet, right, that's still
Speaker 1: future speak.
Speaker 5: Correct, No, no, no, that came out last week. That
Speaker 5: wasn't last Talk last week, but yeah, it came out
Speaker 5: last week and it well, here's the thing. Did it
Speaker 5: do okay or did it not? Because they spent like
Speaker 5: one hundred and thirty million dollars on this film, which
Speaker 5: I don't know where that money went because it was
Speaker 5: not on the screen. I mean they well probably went
Speaker 5: to all the seventy millimeters work that they did with it,
Speaker 5: because it is being pushed as a big seventy milimeter release.
Speaker 5: But it's but it's still a good movie. It made
Speaker 5: like twenty some million last weekend, which is pretty low
Speaker 5: for the size of the budget. But it's going to
Speaker 5: carry through award season. It's got all these reviews, and
Speaker 5: I thought it was an interesting movie, but it's not
Speaker 5: a typical movie.
Speaker 1: But you'll sound like really excited, like like not long ago,
Speaker 1: like it was the Superman movie. You you were literally
Speaker 1: bursting through my headphones in the speakers as we drove
Speaker 1: around about your excitement about it this one. You're saying, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's big, and you don't know where they spent all
Speaker 1: the money. Uh whatever? Is this not as good as
Speaker 1: you would hope or is it hype too much.
Speaker 5: Now here's the thing that that's the thing. It's it's
Speaker 5: a hype thing because whenever Paul Thomas Anderson or pt
Speaker 5: Anderson comes out with the movie, there is this collective,
Speaker 5: almost sensual groan from the critical side of the world,
Speaker 5: and they're just like, it's the greatest movie ever, and
Speaker 5: I need to see it, get it in my eyeball.
Speaker 5: And that's like kind of the and you get that
Speaker 5: with a Christopher Roland movie. Uh, you get that with uh,
Speaker 5: you know, certain movies like this from certain directors. And
Speaker 5: I'm like, I liked it. It's a good movie. I
Speaker 5: gave it four out of five stars. But I am
Speaker 5: kind of like guy pumped the brakes a little bit.
Speaker 5: It's not the greatest movie of the year, let alone
Speaker 5: of all time. But it's entertaining and it's interesting. But
Speaker 5: it's it's it's not me when I say it's it's
Speaker 5: a typical. It's not a normal movie. That's not a
Speaker 5: knock on it. It's more a revel you know, a
Speaker 5: realization that it's doesn't follow your normal storyline. You know,
Speaker 5: if you were to say, hey, it's this movie about
Speaker 5: these people who are sort of like in this uh
Speaker 5: sort of pseudo terrorist organization, this sort of this Liberation
Speaker 5: Front group.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: And it's him, Uh, DiCaprio much later in life, just
Speaker 5: kind of trying to lead the normal life and the
Speaker 5: cage's pulled back into this by somebody who's hunting him.
Speaker 5: You think it's gonna be like a Steven Sagall action movie,
Speaker 5: and it ain't that. I'll tell you it's it's it's
Speaker 5: very different, and it's structured very differently.
Speaker 1: Talking to Kevin Carr Silver Gecko on sub Stack about
Speaker 1: this new DiCaprio movie.
Speaker 4: Sean Penn's in this.
Speaker 1: Obviously DiCaprio has got in the face of this and
Speaker 1: all the trailers I've seen Beniitio del Toro, Regina Hall,
Speaker 1: who I love, uh, and uh, Elena Haim, who now
Speaker 1: explained to me May West in this film.
Speaker 5: Uh, hold on, what do you? I'm sorry?
Speaker 4: The character she that's all right, she just oh the
Speaker 4: name of.
Speaker 5: The okay, I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, the actor? Uh see
Speaker 5: they they and which one was which one? I'm that's
Speaker 5: all right.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet. I just know that she
Speaker 1: plays May West, and I didn't know if she was.
Speaker 1: It was like an old time kind of flashback to
Speaker 1: May West? Or is this just somebody else who's name
Speaker 1: May West.
Speaker 5: It's it's just they take code names. Okay, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. Ause what it is is it's sort
Speaker 5: of like this this girl group of sort of you know,
Speaker 5: sort of what they would consider themselves revolutionary, and they're
Speaker 5: they're there to, you know, cause political unrest. And it
Speaker 5: was like twenty years ago that they did this, and
Speaker 5: everybody had code names, and I'm blanking on a lot
Speaker 5: of their codeames, but there's stuff like that like May West, right,
Speaker 5: and so so yeah, that's that's that doesn't actually call
Speaker 5: back to Maywest.
Speaker 4: Okay, good, that's all I was trying to figure out.
Speaker 4: You've seen it.
Speaker 1: I had, and I didn't mean to throw you this
Speaker 1: the first time I think I've ever thrown anything at
Speaker 1: you were like, I have no idea what you're saying,
Speaker 1: and then I'm like.
Speaker 4: I don't know what i'm saying either. This is not good.
Speaker 5: So yeah, no, no, no, that was just that's just
Speaker 5: a code name for one of the characters.
Speaker 1: Right, So for those who don't know, can you break
Speaker 1: down without ruining it what this is actually about? Because
Speaker 1: I've had two people just message me real quickly going, so,
Speaker 1: what the hell is this movie really about?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well that that's the thing. So the DiCaprio with
Speaker 5: this guy used to be involved in this group that
Speaker 5: that caused all these sort of unrest in these and
Speaker 5: it's been like twenty years of fifteen years and he
Speaker 5: has gotten out of it, and he's raising his daughter
Speaker 5: because the woman he had the baby with she left
Speaker 5: and kind of because she was sort of a target
Speaker 5: in this organization. And he's just trying to raise the
Speaker 5: daughter and this guy who was involved in them from
Speaker 5: the military who's coming after them to try and track
Speaker 5: them down. He targets them and he kind of gets
Speaker 5: swept up into it and he's trying to go on
Speaker 5: the run save his daughter from sort of this unhinged
Speaker 5: military guy. It played by Sean Pett and Sean Penn's
Speaker 5: fantastic in it actually because he plays a completely bonker's
Speaker 5: character but makes it feel very realistic.
Speaker 1: Okay, is there anything to say else about that?
Speaker 4: Because I'm curious about something else?
Speaker 5: There's more. Like I said, I think my thing is
Speaker 5: you want to go in with tempered expect and realize
Speaker 5: it's not traditional because that doesn't follow that normal like
Speaker 5: three acts structure that were sort of even if you
Speaker 5: don't know what the three act structures, you go and
Speaker 5: watch movies and it kind of flows that way. But
Speaker 5: it's interesting. I was never bored in it, you know it.
Speaker 5: I was. I never found myself checking my watch even
Speaker 5: though it runs over two hours and it's it's it
Speaker 5: keeps you guessing because it is one of those movies
Speaker 5: that you're like, well, gosh, you know, anything can happen.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 5: You know, you watch Superman. You talked about Superman. You're like, corn,
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna kill Superman, so you know that's gonna
Speaker 5: end okay for him. But this one you have no idea.
Speaker 5: So that's what I would say. So it's it's a
Speaker 5: non traditional movie, but it's worth checking out.
Speaker 4: Okay, very good.
Speaker 1: Now, Good Boy is a dog movie, more or less correct,
Speaker 1: and I've saw a trailer about it. I want to
Speaker 1: see this one too, but I don't know if I should.
Speaker 1: That's why we have you on, Kevin Carr. Is it
Speaker 1: the movies? I just explain the hero nature I guess
Speaker 1: of the dog, which they are in most of our lives.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Good Boy is it's a horror movie. It's told
Speaker 5: from the dog's point of view. That's sort of the
Speaker 5: angle of it. And I mean not just that he's
Speaker 5: the main character, but you know, shot with low angles
Speaker 5: the human characters, their faces are often obscured, and there's dialogue,
Speaker 5: but it just kind of goes on in the background.
Speaker 5: It it's the presence of this dog with his owner
Speaker 5: who's got some health problems. He's a younger man but
Speaker 5: has some health problems, and he moves into it's more
Speaker 5: than a cabin, it's a house, but it's in the
Speaker 5: middle of the woods that his grandfather used to own,
Speaker 5: and there's something in there. There's some entity and the
Speaker 5: dog is trying to figure out what it is, and
Speaker 5: it's sniffing around and looking around, and there's some sort
Speaker 5: of malevolent presence there. And so yeah, it's a haunted
Speaker 5: house movie told from a dog's point of view, which
Speaker 5: makes it unique because otherwise it would have just been
Speaker 5: kind of a run of the mill entity movie kind
Speaker 5: of thing. But the dog's played by the dog's real
Speaker 5: names in and the character is named Indie, named after
Speaker 5: Indiana Jones. It's been a great dog. I mean, I'm like,
Speaker 5: let's give the dog the Academy Award at this point.
Speaker 1: Has that ever happened? No, I just I could have
Speaker 1: gotten like an Emmy, right, not.
Speaker 5: Like air Bud, the Oscars or.
Speaker 4: If you ever had that happen. I mean, you've had dogs.
Speaker 1: I mean I've been to the house car I know,
Speaker 1: and you've had a dog that like has seemingly had
Speaker 1: something that it's had interest in that, It's been a
Speaker 1: disturbed by in the backyard, in the house, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: It's heard something, smelled something and acted irregular, and then
Speaker 1: you kind of wonder, is there something there? Is it
Speaker 1: something beyond this realm? I mean, so that sort of
Speaker 1: plays into that thing that a lot of us, anybody
Speaker 1: who's had a pet has had something like that kind
Speaker 1: of happened.
Speaker 4: Just maybe not really a horror show.
Speaker 5: Well, definitely with a dog, cats are less. Cats are
Speaker 5: like in general okay kind of the way the cat works.
Speaker 5: But no, nothing is creepier than when you have a
Speaker 5: dog and you're sitting around and all of a sudden
Speaker 5: the dog just purse up and it's like and you
Speaker 5: didn't hear.
Speaker 4: Anything, because they hear and smell at all.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you just don't know. Now, Like I live
Speaker 5: in the suburbs, so there's there's always like cars going
Speaker 5: by and you know that kind of thing. So there's
Speaker 5: always external noises. But I've been I've been in the
Speaker 5: you know, like in relatives, you know when they live
Speaker 5: out in the woods, you know, in the hills of
Speaker 5: West Virginia. Yeah, you don't want to hear the dogs
Speaker 5: get like upset then, because I mean that could be
Speaker 5: that's not even a ghost thing. I mean, if you're
Speaker 5: like in the West Virginia, it could be there could
Speaker 5: be coyotes there. Could you don't know what's outside at
Speaker 5: night in the middle of the woods.
Speaker 1: And I hear them all the time around the house
Speaker 1: is sterling, and my dog will will peak up, and
Speaker 1: then he's kind of like, all right, we can go
Speaker 1: in the house now, because I think he he that's
Speaker 1: about the only thing he's scared of. Everything else. He's
Speaker 1: got a big mouth. He'll hide behind me. But when
Speaker 1: he hears the coyotes yipping and yapping and whatever they
Speaker 1: do late at night, he's like, all right, I'm good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you don't know. The coyotes are not to
Speaker 5: be trifled with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'd be a snack. He's like, I know they
Speaker 1: can shump that six foot fence. It's no big deal.
Speaker 1: So of the way that plays out anything else before
Speaker 1: we let you hop I know you mentioned you saw
Speaker 1: something else. I can't remember what it was, though, yeah
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 5: I got a chance to check out the new Netflix film.
Speaker 5: It's coming out in theaters I think on October tenth
Speaker 5: and on Netflix on the twenty fourth. House of Dynamite, Yeah,
Speaker 5: which is Captain Bigelow's new movie. Stars Rebecca Ferguson, Andrecelba,
Speaker 5: Tracy Letts, pretty big cast, and what it does is
Speaker 5: it tells a story of sort of like in real time,
Speaker 5: of the government and the military's response to an a
Speaker 5: ICBM launch into the United States. But they don't know
Speaker 5: who's done it, or who's behind it, or where it
Speaker 5: came from exactly, and they have eighteen minutes to figure
Speaker 5: out what to do. Oh can you stop it? How
Speaker 5: do you respond? And so it's this eighteen minute segment
Speaker 5: replayed like three times h and it's it's it's really
Speaker 5: quite terrifying when you look at the reality behind a
Speaker 5: situation like that. Because we know you and I grew
Speaker 5: up with war games and all that kind of stuff
Speaker 5: with the with movies about you know, nuclear winter could happen.
Speaker 5: We've kind of forgotten that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about you, but I remember
Speaker 1: in elementary school we had tornado drills and fire drills
Speaker 1: and distinkly we may have done it more than once,
Speaker 1: but there was one time they'd had us go to
Speaker 1: the basement fallout shelter kind of thing. Oh, after seeing
Speaker 1: a movie, like we were supposed to hide. I guess
Speaker 1: if they can't hit ge or right pad or whatever
Speaker 1: it was, you know, if it actually was going down.
Speaker 1: And I remember being a little kid even because they
Speaker 1: were like you could duck your head under the you know,
Speaker 1: the desk, or use a book to cover your head.
Speaker 5: You got that, you actually got an honest to god
Speaker 5: duck and cover yeah drill when you were in school.
Speaker 5: I never got the duck and cover.
Speaker 4: Drill only time, and I thought they had too. I mean,
Speaker 4: I didn't know anything about it.
Speaker 1: And I told my mom about it, and she was like, uh,
Speaker 1: it's you know, I wouldn't worry about it, which is
Speaker 1: the way she said it, and I kind.
Speaker 4: Of alluded to it. I was like, what difference is
Speaker 4: that gonna make?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 5: I remember the original duck and cover like video from
Speaker 5: the fifties with the turtle singing and everything. There's like
Speaker 5: people having a picnic and they put the blanket over it.
Speaker 5: Like that blanket is not going to stop a thermonuclear weapon.
Speaker 1: I don't like to throw kool aid on you and
Speaker 1: you would still get wet and stained.
Speaker 4: It's not going to stop nuclear fall out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. The picnic basket is worthless against like soft.
Speaker 4: Drinks, that's right.
Speaker 5: But one of the things, because because I was in
Speaker 5: the there was we had a press conference and Catherine
Speaker 5: Bigelow was there and everything, and she talked about one
Speaker 5: of the things she said was what was terrifying when
Speaker 5: they were doing the research for this film. She's like,
Speaker 5: there's like there's like nine countries on this planet that
Speaker 5: have nuclear capabilities, and like only three of them are NATO.
Speaker 5: I might have those numbers wrong, So my apologies to
Speaker 5: those who know that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well that's one of those things that we
Speaker 1: know when the Soviet Union broke up, and we know
Speaker 1: it's a problem now obviously, but the talk was always
Speaker 1: about you know, the dirty bomb, those weapons that sort
Speaker 1: of may have been missing that you know, something could
Speaker 1: be out there, but there are so many actors now
Speaker 1: that meaning countries, nation states are otherwise there could be
Speaker 1: up to no good. It's just sort of I don't
Speaker 1: even know why worry about it, I guess, but what
Speaker 1: you just described is unnerving. Edress Alba is always great,
Speaker 1: Jared Harris, which is of course Richard Harris's son who
Speaker 1: was imagining, and a bunch of other stuff. This cast
Speaker 1: seems interesting when you say it's unnerving, and it's weird
Speaker 1: for you to say, so that clearly got into your head.
Speaker 5: Well, like like another thing. And Big Old pointed this
Speaker 5: out on the press conferences, and you see it in
Speaker 5: the film. You see the play out in the film.
Speaker 5: You know, SECTAFF will drill this thing four hundred times
Speaker 5: a year. They know what to do in this situation,
Speaker 5: and you know how to track the missiles and all
Speaker 5: this kind of stuff. And they and they asked in
Speaker 5: the production. They're asking their consultants and they say, you know,
Speaker 5: how much prep prep does the president get? And they're like,
Speaker 5: he's for less than an hour when he takes office,
Speaker 5: just now, and that is it. And then he has
Speaker 5: this guy following him around with football and he's the
Speaker 5: one who makes the decisions of how many how do
Speaker 5: we respond? Do we respond? You know, do we respond?
Speaker 5: And you know, do we spend everything?
Speaker 7: Do we do it?
Speaker 5: Sturgical? I mean, and in this movie, it shows you
Speaker 5: have eighteen minutes from from the moment it happens to
Speaker 5: the moment at Land you have eighteen minutes and then
Speaker 5: within that time all these decisions have to be made.
Speaker 5: So it's it shows how precariously balanced we are. And
Speaker 5: it's just we don't realize that now because that was
Speaker 5: an eighties thing. You know, everyone's like, oh, we're past it.
Speaker 5: We are not past that.
Speaker 4: No, it's still out there, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Kevin Carr. By the way, Silver Gecko on Substec. One
Speaker 1: last thing I have to ask somebody message me just
Speaker 1: now about it. And I was going to ask anyway.
Speaker 1: So that's perfect. Thank you Alex for that. You mentioned
Speaker 1: it Netflix film, which most of us have streaming of that.
Speaker 1: But it's in theaters and it's not just going to
Speaker 1: be in the netflick flix theaters because they have some
Speaker 1: of their own now, right, But will this be like
Speaker 1: at the a MC down the street downtown what uh?
Speaker 5: Generally I don't know what the release window is for that.
Speaker 5: Sometimes they do just put them in the Netflix theaters.
Speaker 5: That's that is a qualifying run, so it's eligible for Oscars,
Speaker 5: oh and awards. That's why a lot of times this
Speaker 5: time of year, you're gonna see that when when Gambello
Speaker 5: Tomorrow's Frankenstein comes out, you're gonna see that with a
Speaker 5: bunch of stuff that goes to Netflix where they really
Speaker 5: promoted for the at home viewing, because that's that is
Speaker 5: the business model of the Netflix. But they've bought these
Speaker 5: theaters and then they can run them in these theaters
Speaker 5: in New York and LA in order to qualify. So
Speaker 5: I'm not sure how wide it's gonna run. Now, wake
Speaker 5: Up something like Wake Up dead Man, which is the
Speaker 5: next NICs out movie, that might get a wider release
Speaker 5: in theaters, because that tends to make a little bit
Speaker 5: more money in wide release than than some of these
Speaker 5: smaller movies or or these more targeted no pun intended.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you can make a little bit
Speaker 1: more money, who doesn't want more money in general? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I totally get that. Kevin Cart's good to talk
Speaker 1: to you again. Sorry we missed a week. We'll obviously
Speaker 1: have you back as always. Silver Gecko on substack. Fat
Speaker 1: guys at the movies. Thanks for making time. I hope
Speaker 1: you enjoy the rest of your weekend. Man all right,
Speaker 1: thank you too, take care of yourself. More Sterling coming back.
Speaker 1: Ten third report straight away. Lee Mallen has that, including
Speaker 1: some ties to Rod Serling in the Big one straight away.
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Speaker 1: State undefeated coming in it should be a good matchup.
Speaker 1: A lot of stuff going on. Oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: up Bengals and Lions. I wasn't overlooking it before I
Speaker 1: get hate on it. It's just that, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: two and oh start where everybody was like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: let's hope that they start off quick rather than in
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Speaker 1: Joe's tow became an issue thanks to the turf problem
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Speaker 1: what three months, give or take, maybe not back the
Speaker 1: season at all. And Jake Browning under center and now
Speaker 1: oh and two with him, that makes them five hundred
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Speaker 1: five to play at pay Corps. You'll hear that also
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW. Let's see, Oh, this is kind
Speaker 1: of a big news. It's been around going on for
Speaker 1: a while in the news. It's been now the better
Speaker 1: part of ninety days. I think it's a three months
Speaker 1: since p diddy. Sean Colmes used to be puff Daddy,
Speaker 1: I mean pick various aliases in his creative outlook, including
Speaker 1: big screen work too in a great movie called Maids
Speaker 1: from a number of years ago too, made with the
Speaker 1: dead Colombo some time ago.
Speaker 4: But serious reasons why he's in the news.
Speaker 1: He was convicted in federal court in New York three
Speaker 1: months ago on two prostitution related charges, acquitted of what
Speaker 1: was considered to be a much more serious charge of racketeering,
Speaker 1: conspiracy and sex trafficking, but he is still looking to
Speaker 1: get what could have been a good number of years,
Speaker 1: like ten eleven years instead with time served. Another four
Speaker 1: altogether is what he's been sentenced to, So he's going
Speaker 1: to go away for a while, in addition to also
Speaker 1: having a pretty decent size fine associated with it. All
Speaker 1: the talk of sex trafficking, prostitution issues and Hammer coming
Speaker 1: down on that, it's gotten a lot of attention. I
Speaker 1: don't know how much of a big deal this is
Speaker 1: for everybody in general at this point, but for anyone
Speaker 1: wanting justice, anyone wanting retribution for wrongdoing and putting people
Speaker 1: in situations that they don't want to be forced into
Speaker 1: some type of sex trade or otherwise. This is probably
Speaker 1: what people wanted, is an outcome as a penalty for
Speaker 1: that type of behavior. He of course said all the
Speaker 1: things that you would hope someone would say, certainly what
Speaker 1: a lot of times people say when they're coming up
Speaker 1: on sentencing after a conviction, to try to lessen what
Speaker 1: they could be having to navigate when it comes to
Speaker 1: being locked up in losing their freedom. So what I'm
Speaker 1: wondering about is this. And Cassie Ventura, by the way,
Speaker 1: one of those a singer that was sort of a
Speaker 1: part of his groups tutelage and his production and all
Speaker 1: the other stuff that goes with it. She testified against him,
Speaker 1: very serious contributor to that prosecution and help get that
Speaker 1: conviction came out. And she says, well, nothing can undo
Speaker 1: the trauma caused by Combs. The sentence imposed today, this
Speaker 1: is what she said earlier, recognizes the impact of the
Speaker 1: serious offenses he committed. She says, we're confident that the
Speaker 1: support of her family and friends, Miss Ventura will continue
Speaker 1: healing and knowing that her bravery and fortitude have been
Speaker 1: an inspiration to so many. What I'm wondering is this,
Speaker 1: And I'll open up the phones and see where your
Speaker 1: head is on this five three seven four nine, seven thousand,
Speaker 1: eight hundred, the Big One. If you're on X what
Speaker 1: used to be called Twitter. I guess I still have
Speaker 1: to say that for some because occasionally people will say
Speaker 1: I got there on T footer, But it's X. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what it is and that's what it has been.
Speaker 1: At Stirling Radio. You can find me there three seven
Speaker 1: four nine seven eight hundred the Big One. You can
Speaker 1: talk back the iHeartRadio app as well by clicking on
Speaker 1: that microphone. Do you think that five years for what
Speaker 1: he was convicted of is enough?
Speaker 4: Is it fair?
Speaker 1: Is it just the judge certainly making that determination. Prosecution
Speaker 1: wanted to full ride. Defense wanted what had already been
Speaker 1: served effectively, because that's their job.
Speaker 4: I mean, nobody wants to go away. In some cases.
Speaker 1: Being famous and notable maybe makes his time behind bars
Speaker 1: more difficult. In some cases from what they say, that
Speaker 1: may make it a little bit easier of a ride,
Speaker 1: depending on how you look at it. Certainly will help
Speaker 1: his street cred in some circles relation to that. But
Speaker 1: if you are someone who loves women as I do,
Speaker 1: whether it's your mother, your sister, your daughter, or otherwise
Speaker 1: the woman in your life if you are a woman,
Speaker 1: my guess. I hate to make an assumption. I learned
Speaker 1: that watching reruns of the Benny Hill Show on Channel
Speaker 1: nineteen when I was a young sterling. You make an
Speaker 1: ass to you and me when you assume. But one
Speaker 1: would surmise that most people that are reasonable looking at
Speaker 1: someone who's been convicted of something like that, should go away,
Speaker 1: should spend time, should be a penalty because they were
Speaker 1: convicted of doing something that caused harm to another or others.
Speaker 1: In relation to that, he did spend thirteen months away already,
Speaker 1: he'll get credit for that. Plus the issue of bond
Speaker 1: five year Supervoice release in addition to that, and apparently
Speaker 1: obviously fairly broken up about it, I'm wondering, do you
Speaker 1: think it's fair? Is it reasonable?
Speaker 4: Is it just?
Speaker 1: And in this time and talk of all the Epstein
Speaker 1: files and tapes that are still dripping out with no
Speaker 1: real information beyond that there's some big fish out there
Speaker 1: who have done some pretty serious thing to some underage
Speaker 1: women and others. A part of that, and occasionally here
Speaker 1: in the news you hear in the tri State, other
Speaker 1: parts of Ohio and the country it's a fairly common thing.
Speaker 1: It's the oldest profession out there, and oftentimes it's not
Speaker 1: women of age making a choice to you know, make
Speaker 1: money the old fashioned way. It's people that have been
Speaker 1: forced into it, marginalized, trafficed or otherwise. If I've went three, seven, four, nine, seven,
Speaker 1: eight hundred the big one, what do you think. Let's
Speaker 1: get to bond Hill and Rafael haven't talked to Raffi
Speaker 1: in a while. Welcome back to seven hundred WLW with Sterling.
Speaker 5: How are you, brother, Sterling?
Speaker 3: How's it going?
Speaker 1: No complaints, my man, it's a nice, beautiful Friday night
Speaker 1: and talking to you life is good.
Speaker 6: Well, man, can't get no better than this, hey, Sterling, Man,
Speaker 6: I got a soft spot for women as well. Females.
Speaker 8: Yes, my mother, grandmother.
Speaker 6: White, anybody you know that's a female. Men who abuse them,
Speaker 6: beat them, rape, sexual assault, manipulate them are lower than
Speaker 6: the lowest creature ever in the history of life. I
Speaker 6: hate saying that guy's name, but he is pure scum, scum,
Speaker 6: unadulterated filth. Unfortunately, the charges that's stuck the judge, and
Speaker 6: I know judges has to be totally unbiased and whatnot,
Speaker 6: but it seems like the sentence for the charges fits.
Speaker 6: Even though I don't have a problem that the prosecution
Speaker 6: where they were asking for a full eleven years and whatnot.
Speaker 6: The five years or whatever that he got, he could
Speaker 6: have done that half that time with eleven or so.
Speaker 8: But so be it.
Speaker 6: But I think that if you and I followed the case. Sterling,
Speaker 6: one of the witnesses that would have the prosecution had
Speaker 6: lined up to speak today in the eleventh hour, she declined,
Speaker 6: that's because of fear. And this dude ran a criminal
Speaker 6: enterprise based on sex, drugs, intimidation, fear of violence, a
Speaker 6: gun running. He ran a criminal network empire. And of
Speaker 6: course you know that the jury they tossed out things
Speaker 6: that they didn't think were revealing everything.
Speaker 8: But I thought that the.
Speaker 6: Prosecute, I'm sorry, prostitution across state lines. I thought that
Speaker 6: that was definitely relevant. But this guy should get the
Speaker 6: full amount of time possible. And he's not going to
Speaker 6: get it because he still had people who worked for him,
Speaker 6: who abused women, intimidated women, beat women, and and and
Speaker 6: their family members and whatnot. And and people were fearful
Speaker 6: of this guy, but his his bs crying and and
Speaker 6: and and speaking before the court and letters and everything
Speaker 6: like that. He's talking about that. You know he's so
Speaker 6: honest now and you know he'll never do it like that.
Speaker 6: Remember when the video when he beat hit Casfie in the.
Speaker 4: Hallway the elevator.
Speaker 6: Right now he said, prior to that video coming out, like, oh,
Speaker 6: I've never hit her. I never abused Kathy. The video
Speaker 6: drops and everything in crickets. See, he's a live sterling
Speaker 6: because he's just I'm only hanging up so you can
Speaker 6: get other calls because I don't want anything to slip
Speaker 6: out of my mouth. Okay, he disgusts me, brother, he
Speaker 6: really does.
Speaker 1: I understand. I can hear it through the the you
Speaker 1: know your call and conversation, refe. I appreciate the call.
Speaker 1: One question before you bounce, though, is it interesting to
Speaker 1: you as it is to me? The fame, the fortune,
Speaker 1: the notoriety oftentimes brings a soft feeling, more of a
Speaker 1: feeling of either indifference or somehow uh an idea of
Speaker 1: softness and consideration for the accused in this case, the
Speaker 1: convicted and did it columns in a situation like this,
Speaker 1: to compare to if it was just somebody random off
Speaker 1: the street, he unfortunately.
Speaker 6: Yes, and then he had his kids and family members
Speaker 6: parading in front with the fake peers and all that.
Speaker 6: You know, they're just looking at the money. He's talking
Speaker 6: about his business is gone and everything like that. It's
Speaker 6: not he's still going to make money by ways of
Speaker 6: his criminality. But unfortunately, jury members and others and especially
Speaker 6: in the black community, you know, sterling, but they just
Speaker 6: see this guy. You know, it's just like I think
Speaker 6: one of his attorneys she got up there crime saying, like,
Speaker 6: you know, he's a beacon of hope in the black community.
Speaker 6: The hope is that you hope that this guy doesn't beat, rape,
Speaker 6: drug your daughter, niece, granddaughter.
Speaker 5: That's that's the hope.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 6: All bs that they get caught up in this. You
Speaker 6: know that he's he's somebody, he's somebody.
Speaker 1: Power, hunk, power and fame are a very interesting thing
Speaker 1: and how people want to let go of stuff and
Speaker 1: go along with certain elements of it are discounted or
Speaker 1: somehow marginalize the victim. But we're in a society historically,
Speaker 1: globally speaking, that is marginalized, treated as less than insignificant
Speaker 1: or as property. Women and certainly children in so many cases,
Speaker 1: and it continues to be the case like that. Now
Speaker 1: it's it's bewildering. You're right, you know, and I was
Speaker 1: raised by Yeah. It really is good to talk to you, Ruffel.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the comment. Always you always you take care
Speaker 1: of yourself, Enjoy the weekend. Five point three seven four
Speaker 1: nine seven eight hundred. The big one the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1: You can pick up the phone, give it the finger,
Speaker 1: or to click that microphone on the iHeart app and
Speaker 1: leave a message that way too. I'm on x AX
Speaker 1: Sterling Radio as well. I'd like to hear from some
Speaker 1: ladies on this as well. Give you a chance to
Speaker 1: sound off on this.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: It is the oldest profession in the book, but forced
Speaker 1: into it, you know, somehow treated less than abused, beaten
Speaker 1: or otherwise. Is the thing that is a very wild thing.
Speaker 1: If it just popped up in the news about somebody
Speaker 1: from pick A city in the Tri State. I don't
Speaker 1: want a point a finger in any community where something
Speaker 1: could happen, But imagine anywhere along seventy one or seventy five,
Speaker 1: in a hotel someplace or downtown place it happens.
Speaker 4: But here's the wrinkle.
Speaker 1: I want to ask, because I've mentioned this before in
Speaker 1: some fashion, the same way when it comes to legal
Speaker 1: weed or other drug situations. You know, where you take
Speaker 1: the moratorium off of it, where you can control it,
Speaker 1: where you could allow the authorities to have a hand
Speaker 1: in it. You're never going to completely eradicate the so
Speaker 1: called black market of trade of drugs or sex and
Speaker 1: so forth, but to have it safer and more secure,
Speaker 1: and it is allowed to have some hand of authority
Speaker 1: in there for health care and keeping the activities safer,
Speaker 1: not completely safe, and making sure that it's people that
Speaker 1: are in it because that's what they choose rather than
Speaker 1: what they've been forced to do. Does that not make
Speaker 1: it better? Should that not be something that we talk about.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying normalize it, but it's going on. It
Speaker 1: has always gone on, and it will never stop going
Speaker 1: on because if not getting it, and even if you've
Speaker 1: got it at home, there's a whole lot of people
Speaker 1: who like to either buy a power play or to
Speaker 1: get what they can't get at the house someplace else
Speaker 1: out there. Five point three seven eight hundred the big
Speaker 1: one real quick, Let's get Chad here before the break
Speaker 1: on hold, and then we'll give you a chance to
Speaker 1: speak your mind as well. Chad, what do you think
Speaker 1: are with Sterling on the big one?
Speaker 9: Hey, thanks for all Listen everything that got your least
Speaker 9: car says right, completely right.
Speaker 8: Listen.
Speaker 9: If I'm a lot of these victims, I got to
Speaker 9: be disgusted with this. The serious charges, I mean, what
Speaker 9: he did was serious. But I'm saying the other charges
Speaker 9: that they threw out, it's clear that he bought them
Speaker 9: or paid or there's money involved here that got rid
Speaker 9: of these various serious charges. And the fact of the
Speaker 9: sense he got. I mean, I'm glad he's going away,
Speaker 9: but let's not kid ourselves here for what he did
Speaker 9: is a slap on the wrist he's gonna get. I mean,
Speaker 9: I'm disgusted, Like I said, the victims have got to
Speaker 9: be disgusted about this. I mean because, like I said,
Speaker 9: the other charges that they that they threw out, and
Speaker 9: people had to see this coming. You know, when they
Speaker 9: threw these other charges out, they you knew you I
Speaker 9: knew this was coming. He was going to get. I'm
Speaker 9: not saying four years of I send, but what he
Speaker 9: should have got, what the charges that had left, they
Speaker 9: should have gave him the max. Considering all the other
Speaker 9: charges that we all know he was guilty of, they
Speaker 9: threw out Chad.
Speaker 4: You know what's interesting.
Speaker 1: I was talking to a friend of mine earlier today
Speaker 1: about it, and she was saying that before the sentencing
Speaker 1: came out, that she thought he was going to be
Speaker 1: able to walk. She said she was surprised pleasantly, but
Speaker 1: not as happy as she would be, as you said,
Speaker 1: if he had gotten the MAX. But I'll ask you
Speaker 1: what I asked her, and she said that she thought
Speaker 1: it should be decriminalized and controlled in some fashion, talking
Speaker 1: about the sex trade. But it's not going to eliminate
Speaker 1: those who like kids in, those who want to traffic
Speaker 1: in people who were forced into it. But should it
Speaker 1: be something you know, I don't know, if you have
Speaker 1: a red light district or something like in Amsterdam or
Speaker 1: other parts of the world. Would that make things safer
Speaker 1: and more secure for the customer as well as the
Speaker 1: person who's doing the work. Or is that just too
Speaker 1: far down, you know, across the line of what's inappropriate.
Speaker 9: Do you think No, I think you're exactly right that
Speaker 9: that has to be that's something that can be controlled,
Speaker 9: because the way it is right now, there's never going.
Speaker 4: To be controlled.
Speaker 9: It's all like you said, it's always going to be
Speaker 9: out there and the people that got all the power
Speaker 9: and the money, they're going to keep doing this stuff.
Speaker 9: It's got to be controlled. And it's something like that.
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know the numbers, the statistic, but
Speaker 9: I'm sure something like in Amsterdam with a red audition
Speaker 9: all these other places that have something, or I'll go
Speaker 9: to Philippines Platoff and they got like something like that.
Speaker 9: I mean, it's it's more controlled now. Obviously you're still
Speaker 9: going to have the miners getting in there other stuff,
Speaker 9: but there's got to be something to stop this because
Speaker 9: this happens. And this is this because it's the high
Speaker 9: profile case. We don't I mean, something like this happens
Speaker 9: every day that we don't hear about just because it
Speaker 9: has to be Sean Colmes, That's why we've heard everything.
Speaker 9: It's disgusting and I don't know what has to be done,
Speaker 9: but I think something like that. I'm not saying I'm
Speaker 9: promoting it, but that might be the only way to
Speaker 9: kind of slow this crap down.
Speaker 8: That's it.
Speaker 4: You know, great call chat.
Speaker 1: Appreciate the takes, man, I appreciate you listening being a
Speaker 1: part of the show. Straight away, You're eleven o'clock report.
Speaker 1: More on this, and a whole lot of other stuff
Speaker 1: to touch on, including doctor Donald Schleck conversation I had
Speaker 1: with her, former head of political science at Wright State
Speaker 1: about what looks to be the beginnings of an Israeli
Speaker 1: Hamas broker peace deal, thanks with little help from the
Speaker 1: United States and Tony Blair of the UK. Coming up
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Speaker 1: not quite the as so bad as it could be.
Speaker 1: I remember cold and rain and a lot of high
Speaker 1: school football. Nine updates on score sooner than later. Conversation
Speaker 1: with doctor Donald Schleck, a Right State University former head
Speaker 1: of political science now professor Merida. We'll get an earful
Speaker 1: about what looks to be a positive news about a
Speaker 1: broker peace deal and an agreement between Israel and Hamas.
Speaker 1: We'll see how that plays out coming up after your
Speaker 1: eleven thirty report. Between then and now, continue on a
Speaker 1: little of this conversation. Actually, I have a lot of
Speaker 1: things I want to get to in a short amount
Speaker 1: of time. Mentioning earlier about the outcome and the sentencing
Speaker 1: of Sean Ditty Colms used to be puff daddy, a
Speaker 1: puffy whatever you want to call Hi, Pete didty, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Inmate number whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1: Looking away now to fifty months locked up just over
Speaker 1: four years for two prostitution a prostitution related charges with
Speaker 1: the prosecution that successfully convicted him some three months ago,
Speaker 1: about ninety days it was sentencing, coming out today, could
Speaker 1: have faced something in the neighborhood of eleven years and
Speaker 1: a couple extra months associated with that. I ask you,
Speaker 1: is that fair? Is reasonable judgment? Judgment? And because it
Speaker 1: is the oldest profession in the book, But there's a
Speaker 1: difference between somebody deciding to do that as a line
Speaker 1: of work and revenue generation as a job for one
Speaker 1: of a better way to describe it, so called oldest
Speaker 1: profession there is, and being forced into it to be traffic,
Speaker 1: to be abused, to be beaten for somebody else's profit.
Speaker 1: In this is really sort of what that boiled down to.
Speaker 1: If you are a woman. If you are a mother,
Speaker 1: a daughter, a sister, a grandmother, you name it an
Speaker 1: aunt whatever it is. I know I was raised by
Speaker 1: a mom who did it on her own. She has
Speaker 1: like four three four sisters, and I'm sympathetic. I love women,
Speaker 1: and one making a choice to do something is one thing.
Speaker 1: One being forced into it. Abused in general is a
Speaker 1: weird thing when you're talking about buying of a person,
Speaker 1: whether it's renting them their parts or otherwise, which is
Speaker 1: sort of what it boils down to their accompaniment whatever
Speaker 1: it is. In general, trafficking of them is an odd scenario.
Speaker 1: But I think freedom of choice for consenting adults is
Speaker 1: one thing. This clearly was something else. Is that time
Speaker 1: away some fifty months legit? Is it reasonable? Is it rational?
Speaker 1: What about the decriminalization of and legality of somehow bringing
Speaker 1: out prostitution in a more controlled way the way it
Speaker 1: is in parts of Nevada and other parts of the world.
Speaker 1: Is that something that would make it safer and more secure?
Speaker 1: Five three, seven, four, nine, seven, eight hundred The big one.
Speaker 1: I asked this before, and I'll restate this. I got
Speaker 1: some hate at Sterling Radio one X about this. Five
Speaker 1: one three seven nine eight hundred, the big one. It
Speaker 1: is something that has always been there, and even legalizing
Speaker 1: it or decriminalizing it, in controlling it, however much safer
Speaker 1: it might make it for those that are the patronage,
Speaker 1: you know, those that are shopping for love for one
Speaker 1: of a better way to describe it, probably not love
Speaker 1: but the love, and or those that are actually doing
Speaker 1: it as their business, you know, health wise, safety, security,
Speaker 1: et cetera. There's always going to be be a black
Speaker 1: market for it. Even though there's legal weed, there's still
Speaker 1: a black market for that and a danger associated with it,
Speaker 1: depending on who you're dealing with and how it rolls.
Speaker 1: I want to know what you think, Tinaz First was
Speaker 1: Sterling appreciate your holding for so long? It with Sterling
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW. What do you think about one
Speaker 1: the sentencing of Didy Was it reasonable and just do
Speaker 1: you think? And what about making it legal?
Speaker 8: Well let me find out first. Let me get this right.
Speaker 10: When I first started listening, I thought they said that
Speaker 10: did he got five years eleven years?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: No, no, he was up.
Speaker 1: He could have faced like eleven years plus he got
Speaker 1: four years for plus time served already, which is somewhere
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood of thirteen months. I think he's already
Speaker 1: been away, so but he'll have another four years behind bars.
Speaker 8: Well, I think that's a travesty to women.
Speaker 10: I think it's hugely disrespectful for our legal system to
Speaker 10: only have given him that much triticularly most of us
Speaker 10: thought he should have gotten twenty years or longer. Not
Speaker 10: only was its sex trafficking, it was very brutal beatings.
Speaker 8: It was you know, they were.
Speaker 10: Threatened with their life.
Speaker 8: You also have the.
Speaker 10: Drug trafficking, and if you're taking it to another country,
Speaker 10: wouldn't that be illegally transferring drugs or transferring drugs internationally,
Speaker 10: which they seem to blow over. I think, you know, truthfully,
Speaker 10: it's embarrassing for our legal teams, our legal systems. There
Speaker 10: was so much that he was in charge for that
Speaker 10: he should have been certainly a whole lot more than
Speaker 10: just prostitution.
Speaker 1: You know, I was just going to ask you, because
Speaker 1: you know, all the talk and it's sort of died
Speaker 1: down because there's just so much in a news cycle
Speaker 1: at this point.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's almost overwhelming a wave of it.
Speaker 1: But you know, the Epstein Fi else those associated with it,
Speaker 1: we know he killed himself allegedly. We know about Elayne
Speaker 1: Maxwell in her circumstance and her sharing of information subsequent
Speaker 1: to her prosecution. Her time away got her a little
Speaker 1: bit of a softer, more livable circumstance, which I think
Speaker 1: is a joke.
Speaker 4: Frankly.
Speaker 1: Yes, that being said, do you think you know what
Speaker 1: about what we don't know now and what is apparently
Speaker 1: yet to be shared openly about all that with the
Speaker 1: Epstein files thing, And I'm not you know, I don't
Speaker 1: care who's involved. Isn't that something that should be also
Speaker 1: thought of, because I mean, this stuff happens all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Absolutely, And I think a lot of the hold up
Speaker 10: on you know, the Epstein trials is because there's too
Speaker 10: many political people and too many people in high up positions,
Speaker 10: even from other countries that were involved in the Epstein
Speaker 10: And I think that's that's a travesty that because of that,
Speaker 10: we're not going to really know the truth on all
Speaker 10: of that, And that's I think that's bull crap, you know,
Speaker 10: I mean, the American people are you know, we're kept
Speaker 10: away from so much of the truth because who may
Speaker 10: be involved and what the position is and what money
Speaker 10: they have involved. And not do that way. You know
Speaker 10: who's like has had you know, instances where on on
Speaker 10: my phone that I have gotten news that states a
Speaker 10: lot of different actors that are involved in that as well,
Speaker 10: And I think because of their money and their position,
Speaker 10: is wrong for them not to be named, not for
Speaker 10: the American people to medd the truth. You know, I
Speaker 10: think you know it all boils down to a lot
Speaker 10: of people. Well, it boils down through money and who
Speaker 10: you are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, power, money, power, authority. It It's always been the
Speaker 1: case and it will always be the circumstance. Tina, you
Speaker 1: mentioned something associated with us that I think is relevant
Speaker 1: in thought provoking. So I'll pose the question I've posed
Speaker 1: to others and have mentioned here before, if in fact
Speaker 1: it were decriminalized, if it were controlled, would it make
Speaker 1: it safer and more secure for more people involved, be
Speaker 1: it the customer, the client, one for health, and all
Speaker 1: the other stuff that goes with it. It's already going on,
Speaker 1: It's always been going on. But the difference, of course,
Speaker 1: in the case of Diddy with what he was convicted of,
Speaker 1: with those with the Epstein thing is a little bit
Speaker 1: different because we're talking about underage girls. In many cases
Speaker 1: effectively children kids is really what it is youngteen girls,
Speaker 1: which is really bewildering.
Speaker 8: And that's rage. That's not just sex trafficking. That's also rape.
Speaker 10: Yeah, underage and even women over age that you know
Speaker 10: are forced into it. It's that's rape as well as
Speaker 10: well as the sex trafficking. And don't I don't think,
Speaker 10: I don't believe that it should be any any breaks
Speaker 10: for that money or power. I know I was right
Speaker 10: at eleven years old. I spotted even at a eleven
Speaker 10: years old with my mother and the guy got forty
Speaker 10: years and he did thirty six thirty six with those
Speaker 10: forty And we need to see sentences like that again
Speaker 10: where you know they're giving you know, they do the crime,
Speaker 10: they get sentenced, and they should do the time the
Speaker 10: full time. Too many people are let out early and
Speaker 10: it's another reasons for them to continue doing what they
Speaker 10: were doing. The prostitution has been around as long as
Speaker 10: we know. It doesn't make it right, It shouldn't make
Speaker 10: it legal, it shouldn't make it okay, and certainly it's
Speaker 10: should be treated, you know, to the fullest extent of
Speaker 10: the law. You know, men can go in and do
Speaker 10: time or women if they break the man, which the
Speaker 10: cases are a lot lower, but they do the time,
Speaker 10: and they get off and they go home at the
Speaker 10: end of their time. Women have that memory like I
Speaker 10: have the memory of maybeing rate eleven, and I could
Speaker 10: tell you the whole story beginning to end. And I'm
Speaker 10: sixty one now. So we don't get a break from it.
Speaker 10: We don't get time off for good behavior. You remember
Speaker 10: it for the rest of our life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your sentenced to that abuse forever. First of all, team,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that you suffered that. And I can't imagine
Speaker 1: that circumstance and the fact that you went through it
Speaker 1: in a prosecution and they were able to send that
Speaker 1: waste of flesh away for some period of time thirty
Speaker 1: six or forty years. That's something that doesn't happen that often,
Speaker 1: especially in the window of time that you're talking about.
Speaker 1: That's in fact unusual. I will say this that almost
Speaker 1: every woman that I have gotten over the years to
Speaker 1: be friends with, not necessarily dated, but just friends. Even
Speaker 1: the conversation has come up. It is astounding to me
Speaker 1: how many tell me about being abused in some fashion,
Speaker 1: whether it's date rape or some other type of assault.
Speaker 1: I would say sixty percent that I've talked to, if
Speaker 1: it's ever broached in conversation, have told me they victims
Speaker 1: of such activity.
Speaker 10: Yes, yes, And the thing is, and this was in
Speaker 10: seventy five, but we need to go back to that
Speaker 10: same sentence, a kind where you're giving the full extent
Speaker 10: of the penalty and you have to serve that all time.
Speaker 10: There's no getting off for you know, good behavior. That's
Speaker 10: what happened with me.
Speaker 8: They let the guy off once for good behavior.
Speaker 10: He was in jail for five years, and when they
Speaker 10: let him out for good behavior, he came out, he
Speaker 10: got me.
Speaker 8: It was right back in jail. And that's the thing.
Speaker 8: I mean.
Speaker 10: Women don't get a break from time. We remember it forever. Yes,
Speaker 10: I mean I could tell you what happened from moment
Speaker 10: to moment, and that was, you know, in nineteen seventy five.
Speaker 8: So where's my break? Where's my time off?
Speaker 10: But you know, I rely on God?
Speaker 5: Was still.
Speaker 10: Another thing that the country is falling away from is
Speaker 10: the belief in God. The strength that's sad.
Speaker 1: The strength that you you have shown and endured in
Speaker 1: carrying those scars with you. But to pick up the
Speaker 1: phone to you know, contribute to this conversation and share
Speaker 1: that with me, and you know, the tens of thousands,
Speaker 1: if not as Willy likes to say, millions and millions
Speaker 1: listening shows how strong you are. I'm sorry that you
Speaker 1: dealt with that, but I am glad that you've been
Speaker 1: strong enough to endure it as a child effectively to
Speaker 1: put them away, but also to be able to share
Speaker 1: it now.
Speaker 4: So thank you very much.
Speaker 8: Not a problem.
Speaker 10: I mean, I just want to tell people that, you know,
Speaker 10: they don't break us totally. We do remember it for
Speaker 10: a long time and we're somewhat scarred. But you know,
Speaker 10: I have a higher power who who just helps me
Speaker 10: forget the bad parts. And actually I forgave him after
Speaker 10: a number of years. He was sick and I didn't
Speaker 10: know that as a child, but I know it now.
Speaker 10: And the thing is, you still have to go through,
Speaker 10: you have to go on. But they should still be
Speaker 10: punished at the full extent of the law and it
Speaker 10: should stick.
Speaker 8: You know, no getting off. You know, early good behavior
Speaker 8: and booth crap.
Speaker 7: You know, if you had good behavior, you would have
Speaker 7: done it.
Speaker 10: So but I thank you for running the program. I
Speaker 10: love your program. I'm in front Cincinnati, I live in Leumington, Ohio. Now,
Speaker 10: but I always enjoy getting into the van on all
Speaker 10: the road.
Speaker 8: Trip and turning you guys on. Well, Tina, I appreciate yourself.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you listening to being a part of it,
Speaker 1: and just I can't say how in all of you
Speaker 1: being able to comfortably share that, or at least sharing it.
Speaker 1: I don't know how comfortable it was. And hopefully maybe
Speaker 1: you know somebody listening was able to be helped in
Speaker 1: some fashion by hearing your tale and what you've dealt
Speaker 1: with too.
Speaker 4: So thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed the rest of your weekend and
Speaker 1: feel free to call back any time. Take care of
Speaker 1: yourself certainly. Well all right, Tina, thank you, God bless
Speaker 1: you pleasure too.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Tina. Quick break will come back. It's wow.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine having to suffer through something like that,
Speaker 1: especially as a child, and to be able to go
Speaker 1: through the prosecution process, the whole judicial system scenario, and
Speaker 1: going back into the seventies it was changing somewhat, but
Speaker 1: a child having to navigate that and to be strong
Speaker 1: enough to deal with that had to have great support
Speaker 1: from family and though those are out there and even
Speaker 1: in the situation in court proceedings.
Speaker 4: So often you hear.
Speaker 1: About it, and you've read about it, and you see
Speaker 1: it in film and everything else. And the people who
Speaker 1: go through such things often or they turn it around
Speaker 1: in a court setting and want to point the finger
Speaker 1: of blame at the victim, which should never ever be
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