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Speaker 1: Ben Baby, how are you? How is everything? And is

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Speaker 2: And that is a massive line for people who don't know,

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Speaker 2: Going into that game, the Bengals were without nough Burrow,

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Speaker 2: you know, I think it goes to show where they're

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Speaker 4: This team.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Ben Baby from ESPN was sterling on

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Speaker 1: not just the offense that has struggled. This defense, which

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Speaker 2: Everyone will also say the defense needs to create more turnovers.

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Speaker 7: How's it going, hi, Sterling. It has been quite a day,

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Speaker 1: It certainly has. Let's start with Israel Hamas in that circumstance,

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Speaker 7: than we have seen in the past, and President Trump

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Speaker 7: has weighed in with a very very unequivocal signal to

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Speaker 7: Israel the bombing in Gaza has to stop immediately, like now.

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Speaker 7: So that's a very very strong signal from President Trump.

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Speaker 7: The Arab States are lining up to make arrangements for

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Speaker 7: probably a primarily Muslim or Arab force that will enter

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Speaker 7: the area to begin the disarmament process as well. Peace

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Speaker 7: are beginning to move at this point in time, and

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Speaker 7: it may look really slow, but it strikes me that

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Speaker 7: they're moving very quickly. That two year anniversary I think

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Speaker 7: was something that President Trump did not want to see

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Speaker 7: happen without some movement. So I am very impressed with

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Speaker 7: what Tony Blair has brought to the table. You know,

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Speaker 7: so many more complicated plans and negotiations to follow, but

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Speaker 7: this scenario changes dramatically. If those hostages are released, then

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Speaker 7: I'm pretty confident that the Israeli forces will begin to

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Speaker 7: pull back. It won't happen, you know, fast enough to

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Speaker 7: meet hum often the Palestinian people. I do believe that

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Speaker 7: the Palestinian population in Gaza overwhelmingly wants to see this

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Speaker 7: cease fire and an end to the conflict. We have

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Speaker 7: no way of knowing right what public opinion there is,

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Speaker 7: but sterling more happening in a positive direction, with all

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Speaker 7: the caveats that we have to put on this negotiation.

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Speaker 7: It was a yes, It was a yes.

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Speaker 8: But this is a.

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Speaker 7: Really complicated not too untie, and forty eight families in

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Speaker 7: Israel now probably have more hope than they have had

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Speaker 7: in the past two years. In total, American leadership here

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Speaker 7: to bring this to the point where it can happen

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Speaker 7: if the principles are willing, you know, to take some

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Speaker 7: risks on both sides. This despite the difficulties of the

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Speaker 7: shutdown and the government here, this is one of the

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Speaker 7: you know, the most hopeful developments. It started on Monday

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Speaker 7: there stood President Trump alongside Benjamin not in Yejo saying

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Speaker 7: he accepts these conditions and having gone, you know, much

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Speaker 7: further in the end the war process than many of

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Speaker 7: many of us thought possible. So this is a Trump plan.

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Speaker 7: It's incredibly complicated. It has not been fleshed out nearly

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Speaker 7: in the detail that it will require. I'm impressed that

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Speaker 7: they brought somebody on board with hands on experience. How

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Speaker 7: do you stop the shooting, you know, disarm the combatants,

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Speaker 7: and then lay the groundwork for a future state where

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Speaker 7: people live in peace. Tony Blair actually has that experience.

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Speaker 7: I know he's been criticized in the media lately because

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Speaker 7: of his roles supporting the US in the Iraq War,

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Speaker 7: But I think the valuable lesson is what they did

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Speaker 7: in Northern Ireland. That was nineteen ninety eight when those

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Speaker 7: piece accords were announced. I had the good luck of

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Speaker 7: being in New York at the time and literally sitting

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Speaker 7: in the company of the Consul General for Northern Ireland

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Speaker 7: and the President of Shin Fame who'd been working on

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Speaker 7: it for years.

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Speaker 1: Right now, the troubles on for an extremely long period

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Speaker 1: of time. I know there's been some rumblings there of

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Speaker 1: some of that coming back, but nothing like the horrible

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Speaker 1: circumstance that was in Northern Ireland.

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Speaker 4: UH for so long.

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Speaker 7: Nothing there there. Northern Irish Parliament is open, they've been

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Speaker 7: holding elections. The shootings, the bombings in the ira and

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Speaker 7: the Protestant paramilitaries put their arms beyond access. Amnesties were

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Speaker 7: issued and do you know what party will head the

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Speaker 7: Catholic community. It will be Shin Fame, which used to

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Speaker 7: be called the political arm of the ira UH. And

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Speaker 7: just it tells us that Humus is not going away forever.

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Speaker 7: They haven't promised that, but sterling more light, more hope

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Speaker 7: than we have seen in the in this situation. Uh,

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Speaker 7: the President has put a pretty impressive package together, lined

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Speaker 7: up every single important Arab and Muslim state to be

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Speaker 7: part of trying to bring it to reality.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot.

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Speaker 7: Now, it's good, It's a whole lot. And now it's

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Speaker 7: going to require a really deep breath and some real

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Speaker 7: courage on the part of both the Israelis and the

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Speaker 7: Palestinians to see if they can change their destiny. It

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Speaker 7: looks like they may have that opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Talking to the former head of political science at Wright

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Speaker 1: State University, doctor Donna Schlek, now Professor Amerita from Cincinnati, here,

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Speaker 1: this Israeli Hamas issue and in that Middle Eastern turmoil circumstance,

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Speaker 1: I mean it has gone on for much longer, preceding

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Speaker 1: the hostage taking and the killings and the murders and

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Speaker 1: the incursion into Israel that happened on the seventh of October.

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Speaker 1: So the question is, I guess you know, because initial

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Speaker 1: it was Amas has to go. And you mentioned something

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Speaker 1: very interesting in that no one really knows the people

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Speaker 1: on the ground and how they feel about it. But

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Speaker 1: they've been effectively, in so many cases displaced, killed, and

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Speaker 1: you name it, for all this period of time, effectively

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Speaker 1: bombed back into the Stone Ages. I can't imagine anyone

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Speaker 1: living through that, amongst the rubble of all of that,

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Speaker 1: not wanting to find any way possible to get to

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Speaker 1: some place a piece in whatever normalcy can be, because it's

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Speaker 1: going to take decades for that to be built back up,

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Speaker 1: to be a liveable place of some kind.

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Speaker 7: In any way, Yeah, it is going to be one

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Speaker 7: big infrastructure project. There are going to be jobs, jobs,

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Speaker 7: jobs for Palestinians to rebuild their country. The Arab States

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Speaker 7: want peace in the region. President Trump's Abraham Accords may

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Speaker 7: be extended much more broadly. The remedy in Northern Ireland

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Speaker 7: was get them to stop shooting, begin the disarmament, and

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Speaker 7: then begin an economic development program, because if you can

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Speaker 7: offer young people some hope, perhaps a job, a family,

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Speaker 7: et cetera, they will not be inclined to take the

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Speaker 7: twenty dollars a month stipe then that the IRA may

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Speaker 7: have been offering, or whatever Humus is paying their supporters.

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Speaker 7: Now I wonder we've got five or ten thousand humaff fighters.

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Speaker 7: This disarmament process will be fascinating to watch. It's going

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Speaker 7: to be labor intensive. President Trump has promised American support

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Speaker 7: in the role, but hands on on the ground. This

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Speaker 7: needs to be perhaps the biggest collaborative, constructive project that

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Speaker 7: the leading Arab states in the region have ever engaged in.

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Speaker 7: It is, you know, talk about turning a major corner,

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Speaker 7: addressing a continuing grievance and source of violence in their neighborhood.

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Speaker 7: And for israelis the end of the war, the return

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Speaker 7: of the hostages, but perhaps a different way of living

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Speaker 7: in the future as well. A lot of risks, a

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Speaker 7: lot of distrust, massive amounts of distrust on both sides.

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Speaker 7: And yet the desire and the plan that the President

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Speaker 7: and his team will be fleshing out and Arab states,

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Speaker 7: the wealthy oil states are going to be asked to

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Speaker 7: underwrite a lot of this.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean to cost of fuel by the way,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, you know, will they increase their cost

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Speaker 1: or price to us? And I mean that's a lot

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Speaker 1: of economy conversation there. But even though we produce and

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Speaker 1: have more than basically anyone on the planet at this point,

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Speaker 1: we still get petroleum products from that part of the

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Speaker 1: world as well. If they're trying to use that money

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Speaker 1: or use those bits of fuel and so forth in

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Speaker 1: that process to generate the wealth necessary to build back

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Speaker 1: from what is effectively the stone age in this process,

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Speaker 1: who's going to pay for that in the end? I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's whoever purchases the fuel source.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I think Americans are always interested in that question

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Speaker 7: about the price of petroleum. But the last time the

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Speaker 7: oil producing states in the region met, they decided to slightly,

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Speaker 7: you know, hold constant or slightly increase their production, trying

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Speaker 7: to put more pressure on the Russians as well, who

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Speaker 7: are very cash desperate in selling their petroleum. So the wealthy,

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Speaker 7: wealthy Arab states have those massive funds that they can

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Speaker 7: fall back on if the price of oil has to

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Speaker 7: come down. Their economies are not like the Russians are

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Speaker 7: today dependent upon you know, the income on it almost

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Speaker 7: on a daily basis, from the price of oil. To

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Speaker 7: righte the world's leading producer is the United States, which

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Speaker 7: is on a path under President Trump's leadership to continue

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Speaker 7: to increase production. So when the market is soft and

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Speaker 7: full of oil, the price tends to come down. And

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Speaker 7: when the area is not ripe for another major violent upheaval. Again,

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Speaker 7: the price can remain firm if going to the you know,

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Speaker 7: the lower side as well. That is one price that

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Speaker 7: they are able to pay. But the projects to rebuild

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Speaker 7: Gaza in ten years, we may not be able to

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Speaker 7: recognize the region it. I mean, it has the human capital,

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Speaker 7: it has the potential. The money is going to come in.

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Speaker 7: If the violence stops, so many things become possible. And

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Speaker 7: then this is the Trump plan, that is, that's what

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Speaker 7: it's going to be known as. If it fails, if

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Speaker 7: it succeeds, and there's so many ways it can go

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Speaker 7: off the rail. But we haven't seen process progress like

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Speaker 7: this for two years now. Although we've been hopeful this

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Speaker 7: is it's a substance's turn, and Hamas has actually said, yes,

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Speaker 7: the hostages will be coming out, maybe within a week.

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Speaker 7: I think it will be fairly soon. Once this thing begins,

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Speaker 7: I know the Americans will want to keep the process going,

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Speaker 7: accelerate it, get more planning in place for what comes

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Speaker 7: after the IDF withdrawal, for example. So there's going to

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Speaker 7: be a lot of development opportunities, lots of contracts, lots

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Speaker 7: of ways to attract young Palestinians into rebuilding their country

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Speaker 7: rather than having to go out and die for it.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Donish likes the former head of political science at

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Speaker 1: Wright State and now Professor Mariager. Talking about this Israeli

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Speaker 1: hamas Trump broker peace deal is planned, it seems to

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Speaker 1: be moving a little bit closer to fruition. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: something interesting about the rebuilding. You mentioned about the cost

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Speaker 1: sharing with that of course for those other countries in

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Speaker 1: the region to go along with it, which reminds me

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Speaker 1: then after say World War Two, the Marshall Plan and

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Speaker 1: everything that went into helping to build back Germany and

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Speaker 1: so forth in a little different circumstance. As devastated as

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Speaker 1: it was societally speaking, I mean, there is nothing much

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Speaker 1: left at all in Gaza.

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Speaker 4: I mean it is.

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Speaker 1: It looks like a moonscape, almost in an uninhabitable circumstance.

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Speaker 1: So every element of society, it appears, is going to

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Speaker 1: have to somehow be brought back. And something leading from

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Speaker 1: the initial conversation is this conflict escalated as it is

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Speaker 1: on October seventh, October eighth of twenty twenty three, is

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Speaker 1: that with people suffering through what it has become, how

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Speaker 1: do you keep those that have survived it, who have

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Speaker 1: had to endure it multiple generations, to not have that bitterness,

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Speaker 1: that resentment, that a bloodlust and hunger for retaliation for

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Speaker 1: what has come to be their reality. There be it

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Speaker 1: towards Omas, towards Israel, towards the West, or otherwise.

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Speaker 7: And that is why the prospective hope of rebuilding, rebuilding

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Speaker 7: something better for the children that have had to live

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Speaker 7: through the last two years, the families, the people who

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Speaker 7: have fled, et cetera. When that element of hope for

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Speaker 7: something better, and that's what has been put on the table.

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Speaker 7: Willhammad survived this, Will they reappear later under a new

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Speaker 7: name and as a political party, could very well happen,

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Speaker 7: but something's been put on the table. All the Arab

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Speaker 7: states who had previously supported, you know, the arms struggle

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Speaker 7: for a free and an independent Palestine, these are the

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Speaker 7: people who will be writing the checks and you know,

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Speaker 7: letting the contracts for all of the construction that will

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Speaker 7: have to happen. It will be a massive project. There

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Speaker 7: will be full employment and that's what will squeeze Humas

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Speaker 7: and their appeal out. So how it worked in Northern

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Speaker 7: Ireland and we've had going on thirty years now of peace.

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Speaker 7: Is it perfect?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 7: Do people live together in complete comfort? No? No, there

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Speaker 7: are still a lot of remaining tensions. The Irish and

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Speaker 7: the Palestinians, you know, they have those long histories and

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Speaker 7: they're always willing to recount them for you. But in

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Speaker 7: Northern Ireland they've turned that corner. They're looking forward. You know,

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Speaker 7: how do you fit yourself between the EU and Brexit

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Speaker 7: and you know all of the complicated questions, but they're

656
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Speaker 7: economic questions now. They're not about going back to the

657
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 7: armed struggle.

658
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: Well, safety and hope and opportunity and food on a table,

659
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: and safety and security for children and an opportunity for

660
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: some hope for tomorrow is what it's all about. We're

661
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: against the wild time. Perhaps in a week we can

662
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: talk about an open government rather than a shutdown one.

663
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Speaker 4: But we will let you go.

664
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Speaker 1: Great perspective, insight and an update on what has gone

665
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: on in the Middle East down to Washington and what

666
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: does come with the help of President Trump the United States.

667
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: Tony Blair, former Prime Minister of course for the UK

668
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 1: and Britain and those parties in that part of the world,

669
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: between Israel as well as cutter and across the board,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Dona Shleck, former head of political science Right State University,

671
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Speaker 1: now Professor Meredith.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I hope you enjoy the rest

673
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Speaker 4: of your weekend.

674
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Speaker 7: You two sterling Thanks.

675
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Speaker 1: Take care of yourself straight away your ten o'clock report.

676
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: Kevin Carr on the other side, we'll talk weekend movies.

677
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Speaker 1: Good times here Holm of the Hooday seven hundred WLW,

678
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: Cincinnati ULW, Kevin Carr. Fat guys at the movies, Silver

679
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: get go on the sub stacks everywhere, even in your

680
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: mailbox virtually or otherwise. Welcome back to the big one.

681
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: Seven hundred WLW Kevin. How are you how everything Everything's.

682
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 5: Going pretty well. How are you doing today?

683
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 4: I have no complaints.

684
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: It was like eighty degrees when I was coming into

685
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: this place tonight on a Friday, on the edge of October.

686
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: I know I'll be complaining about darkness and cold and

687
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: freezing temperatures in snow soon enough. So I'm soaking all

688
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: this up as best I can. And this almost seems

689
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: like it's almost comfortable drive in weather too, when we're

690
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: talking about movies and so forth.

691
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 4: Even though we are here on a Friday. Football kind

692
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 4: of night.

693
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, and here's why. You know. It's eighty three

694
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 5: you said eighty three degrees, but it's low humidity. That's

695
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 5: the key. And you can sit out and you can

696
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 5: have a nice breeze come by, and it feels great.

697
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 5: What's weird is then when the temperature starts dropping at night,

698
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 5: it gets more and more humid because the air can

699
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 5: hold less moisture, and then it gets to a point

700
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 5: where you feel like it's condensing on you. So that

701
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 5: can get a little uncomfortable. But no, it was beautiful.

702
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 5: I was out in the park today and I mean

703
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 5: just scored a little the mosquitoes. But you know, hey,

704
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 5: you take what to take, what you get.

705
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: A little malaria, it's no big deal. Don't worry about it.

706
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: Just go to the bathroom a lot.

707
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 4: That's okay.

708
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 5: Pleasant things in life. You just got to deal with

709
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 5: some bloodsucker sometimes.

710
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 4: And that's the truth on more ways than one.

711
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: All Right, So I know that a couple of weeks

712
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: ago we talked about one battle after another, which is

713
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: a new DiCaprio, and everybody under the sun's in that.

714
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: But that's that's not actually out yet, right, that's still

715
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: future speak.

716
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 5: Correct, No, no, no, that came out last week. That

717
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 5: wasn't last Talk last week, but yeah, it came out

718
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 5: last week and it well, here's the thing. Did it

719
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 5: do okay or did it not? Because they spent like

720
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 5: one hundred and thirty million dollars on this film, which

721
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 5: I don't know where that money went because it was

722
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 5: not on the screen. I mean they well probably went

723
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 5: to all the seventy millimeters work that they did with it,

724
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 5: because it is being pushed as a big seventy milimeter release.

725
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 5: But it's but it's still a good movie. It made

726
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 5: like twenty some million last weekend, which is pretty low

727
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 5: for the size of the budget. But it's going to

728
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 5: carry through award season. It's got all these reviews, and

729
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 5: I thought it was an interesting movie, but it's not

730
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 5: a typical movie.

731
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: But you'll sound like really excited, like like not long ago,

732
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: like it was the Superman movie. You you were literally

733
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: bursting through my headphones in the speakers as we drove

734
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: around about your excitement about it this one. You're saying, Oh,

735
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: it's big, and you don't know where they spent all

736
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: the money. Uh whatever? Is this not as good as

737
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: you would hope or is it hype too much.

738
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 5: Now here's the thing that that's the thing. It's it's

739
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 5: a hype thing because whenever Paul Thomas Anderson or pt

740
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 5: Anderson comes out with the movie, there is this collective,

741
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 5: almost sensual groan from the critical side of the world,

742
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 5: and they're just like, it's the greatest movie ever, and

743
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 5: I need to see it, get it in my eyeball.

744
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 5: And that's like kind of the and you get that

745
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 5: with a Christopher Roland movie. Uh, you get that with uh,

746
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 5: you know, certain movies like this from certain directors. And

747
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 5: I'm like, I liked it. It's a good movie. I

748
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 5: gave it four out of five stars. But I am

749
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 5: kind of like guy pumped the brakes a little bit.

750
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 5: It's not the greatest movie of the year, let alone

751
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 5: of all time. But it's entertaining and it's interesting. But

752
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 5: it's it's it's not me when I say it's it's

753
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 5: a typical. It's not a normal movie. That's not a

754
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 5: knock on it. It's more a revel you know, a

755
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 5: realization that it's doesn't follow your normal storyline. You know,

756
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 5: if you were to say, hey, it's this movie about

757
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 5: these people who are sort of like in this uh

758
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 5: sort of pseudo terrorist organization, this sort of this Liberation

759
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 5: Front group.

760
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 3: Uh.

761
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 5: And it's him, Uh, DiCaprio much later in life, just

762
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 5: kind of trying to lead the normal life and the

763
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 5: cage's pulled back into this by somebody who's hunting him.

764
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 5: You think it's gonna be like a Steven Sagall action movie,

765
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 5: and it ain't that. I'll tell you it's it's it's

766
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 5: very different, and it's structured very differently.

767
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: Talking to Kevin Carr Silver Gecko on sub Stack about

768
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: this new DiCaprio movie.

769
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 4: Sean Penn's in this.

770
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: Obviously DiCaprio has got in the face of this and

771
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: all the trailers I've seen Beniitio del Toro, Regina Hall,

772
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: who I love, uh, and uh, Elena Haim, who now

773
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: explained to me May West in this film.

774
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 5: Uh, hold on, what do you? I'm sorry?

775
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 4: The character she that's all right, she just oh the

776
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 4: name of.

777
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Speaker 5: The okay, I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, the actor? Uh see

778
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 5: they they and which one was which one? I'm that's

779
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 5: all right.

780
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet. I just know that she

781
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: plays May West, and I didn't know if she was.

782
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: It was like an old time kind of flashback to

783
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: May West? Or is this just somebody else who's name

784
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: May West.

785
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 5: It's it's just they take code names. Okay, you know

786
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 5: what I mean. Ause what it is is it's sort

787
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 5: of like this this girl group of sort of you know,

788
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 5: sort of what they would consider themselves revolutionary, and they're

789
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 5: they're there to, you know, cause political unrest. And it

790
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 5: was like twenty years ago that they did this, and

791
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 5: everybody had code names, and I'm blanking on a lot

792
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 5: of their codeames, but there's stuff like that like May West, right,

793
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 5: and so so yeah, that's that's that doesn't actually call

794
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 5: back to Maywest.

795
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 4: Okay, good, that's all I was trying to figure out.

796
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 4: You've seen it.

797
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: I had, and I didn't mean to throw you this

798
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: the first time I think I've ever thrown anything at

799
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 1: you were like, I have no idea what you're saying,

800
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: and then I'm like.

801
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 4: I don't know what i'm saying either. This is not good.

802
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 5: So yeah, no, no, no, that was just that's just

803
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 5: a code name for one of the characters.

804
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: Right, So for those who don't know, can you break

805
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: down without ruining it what this is actually about? Because

806
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: I've had two people just message me real quickly going, so,

807
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: what the hell is this movie really about?

808
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, well that that's the thing. So the DiCaprio with

809
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 5: this guy used to be involved in this group that

810
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 5: that caused all these sort of unrest in these and

811
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 5: it's been like twenty years of fifteen years and he

812
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 5: has gotten out of it, and he's raising his daughter

813
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 5: because the woman he had the baby with she left

814
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 5: and kind of because she was sort of a target

815
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 5: in this organization. And he's just trying to raise the

816
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 5: daughter and this guy who was involved in them from

817
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 5: the military who's coming after them to try and track

818
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 5: them down. He targets them and he kind of gets

819
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 5: swept up into it and he's trying to go on

820
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 5: the run save his daughter from sort of this unhinged

821
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 5: military guy. It played by Sean Pett and Sean Penn's

822
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 5: fantastic in it actually because he plays a completely bonker's

823
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 5: character but makes it feel very realistic.

824
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: Okay, is there anything to say else about that?

825
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,959
Speaker 4: Because I'm curious about something else?

826
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 5: There's more. Like I said, I think my thing is

827
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 5: you want to go in with tempered expect and realize

828
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 5: it's not traditional because that doesn't follow that normal like

829
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 5: three acts structure that were sort of even if you

830
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 5: don't know what the three act structures, you go and

831
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 5: watch movies and it kind of flows that way. But

832
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 5: it's interesting. I was never bored in it, you know it.

833
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 5: I was. I never found myself checking my watch even

834
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 5: though it runs over two hours and it's it's it

835
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 5: keeps you guessing because it is one of those movies

836
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 5: that you're like, well, gosh, you know, anything can happen.

837
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 4: Okay.

838
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 5: You know, you watch Superman. You talked about Superman. You're like, corn,

839
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna kill Superman, so you know that's gonna

840
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 5: end okay for him. But this one you have no idea.

841
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 5: So that's what I would say. So it's it's a

842
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 5: non traditional movie, but it's worth checking out.

843
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 4: Okay, very good.

844
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: Now, Good Boy is a dog movie, more or less correct,

845
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: and I've saw a trailer about it. I want to

846
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: see this one too, but I don't know if I should.

847
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: That's why we have you on, Kevin Carr. Is it

848
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: the movies? I just explain the hero nature I guess

849
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 1: of the dog, which they are in most of our lives.

850
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, Good Boy is it's a horror movie. It's told

851
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 5: from the dog's point of view. That's sort of the

852
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 5: angle of it. And I mean not just that he's

853
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 5: the main character, but you know, shot with low angles

854
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 5: the human characters, their faces are often obscured, and there's dialogue,

855
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 5: but it just kind of goes on in the background.

856
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 5: It it's the presence of this dog with his owner

857
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 5: who's got some health problems. He's a younger man but

858
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 5: has some health problems, and he moves into it's more

859
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 5: than a cabin, it's a house, but it's in the

860
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 5: middle of the woods that his grandfather used to own,

861
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 5: and there's something in there. There's some entity and the

862
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 5: dog is trying to figure out what it is, and

863
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 5: it's sniffing around and looking around, and there's some sort

864
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 5: of malevolent presence there. And so yeah, it's a haunted

865
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 5: house movie told from a dog's point of view, which

866
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 5: makes it unique because otherwise it would have just been

867
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 5: kind of a run of the mill entity movie kind

868
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 5: of thing. But the dog's played by the dog's real

869
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 5: names in and the character is named Indie, named after

870
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 5: Indiana Jones. It's been a great dog. I mean, I'm like,

871
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 5: let's give the dog the Academy Award at this point.

872
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: Has that ever happened? No, I just I could have

873
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: gotten like an Emmy, right, not.

874
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 5: Like air Bud, the Oscars or.

875
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 4: If you ever had that happen. I mean, you've had dogs.

876
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: I mean I've been to the house car I know,

877
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: and you've had a dog that like has seemingly had

878
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: something that it's had interest in that, It's been a

879
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: disturbed by in the backyard, in the house, whatever it is.

880
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: It's heard something, smelled something and acted irregular, and then

881
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: you kind of wonder, is there something there? Is it

882
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: something beyond this realm? I mean, so that sort of

883
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: plays into that thing that a lot of us, anybody

884
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: who's had a pet has had something like that kind

885
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: of happened.

886
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 4: Just maybe not really a horror show.

887
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 5: Well, definitely with a dog, cats are less. Cats are

888
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 5: like in general okay kind of the way the cat works.

889
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 5: But no, nothing is creepier than when you have a

890
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 5: dog and you're sitting around and all of a sudden

891
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 5: the dog just purse up and it's like and you

892
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 5: didn't hear.

893
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 4: Anything, because they hear and smell at all.

894
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you just don't know. Now, Like I live

895
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 5: in the suburbs, so there's there's always like cars going

896
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 5: by and you know that kind of thing. So there's

897
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 5: always external noises. But I've been I've been in the

898
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 5: you know, like in relatives, you know when they live

899
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 5: out in the woods, you know, in the hills of

900
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 5: West Virginia. Yeah, you don't want to hear the dogs

901
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 5: get like upset then, because I mean that could be

902
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 5: that's not even a ghost thing. I mean, if you're

903
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 5: like in the West Virginia, it could be there could

904
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 5: be coyotes there. Could you don't know what's outside at

905
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 5: night in the middle of the woods.

906
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: And I hear them all the time around the house

907
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: is sterling, and my dog will will peak up, and

908
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: then he's kind of like, all right, we can go

909
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: in the house now, because I think he he that's

910
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: about the only thing he's scared of. Everything else. He's

911
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: got a big mouth. He'll hide behind me. But when

912
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: he hears the coyotes yipping and yapping and whatever they

913
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: do late at night, he's like, all right, I'm good.

914
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you don't know. The coyotes are not to

915
00:46:59,280 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 5: be trifled with.

916
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'd be a snack. He's like, I know they

917
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: can shump that six foot fence. It's no big deal.

918
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: So of the way that plays out anything else before

919
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: we let you hop I know you mentioned you saw

920
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,479
Speaker 1: something else. I can't remember what it was, though, yeah

921
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: it was.

922
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 5: I got a chance to check out the new Netflix film.

923
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 5: It's coming out in theaters I think on October tenth

924
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 5: and on Netflix on the twenty fourth. House of Dynamite, Yeah,

925
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 5: which is Captain Bigelow's new movie. Stars Rebecca Ferguson, Andrecelba,

926
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 5: Tracy Letts, pretty big cast, and what it does is

927
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 5: it tells a story of sort of like in real time,

928
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 5: of the government and the military's response to an a

929
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 5: ICBM launch into the United States. But they don't know

930
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 5: who's done it, or who's behind it, or where it

931
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,479
Speaker 5: came from exactly, and they have eighteen minutes to figure

932
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 5: out what to do. Oh can you stop it? How

933
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 5: do you respond? And so it's this eighteen minute segment

934
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 5: replayed like three times h and it's it's it's really

935
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 5: quite terrifying when you look at the reality behind a

936
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 5: situation like that. Because we know you and I grew

937
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 5: up with war games and all that kind of stuff

938
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 5: with the with movies about you know, nuclear winter could happen.

939
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 5: We've kind of forgotten that.

940
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about you, but I remember

941
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: in elementary school we had tornado drills and fire drills

942
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: and distinkly we may have done it more than once,

943
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: but there was one time they'd had us go to

944
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,959
Speaker 1: the basement fallout shelter kind of thing. Oh, after seeing

945
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: a movie, like we were supposed to hide. I guess

946
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: if they can't hit ge or right pad or whatever

947
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: it was, you know, if it actually was going down.

948
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: And I remember being a little kid even because they

949
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: were like you could duck your head under the you know,

950
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: the desk, or use a book to cover your head.

951
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 5: You got that, you actually got an honest to god

952
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 5: duck and cover yeah drill when you were in school.

953
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 5: I never got the duck and cover.

954
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 4: Drill only time, and I thought they had too. I mean,

955
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 4: I didn't know anything about it.

956
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: And I told my mom about it, and she was like, uh,

957
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: it's you know, I wouldn't worry about it, which is

958
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: the way she said it, and I kind.

959
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 4: Of alluded to it. I was like, what difference is

960
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 4: that gonna make?

961
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 6: Well?

962
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 5: I remember the original duck and cover like video from

963
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 5: the fifties with the turtle singing and everything. There's like

964
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 5: people having a picnic and they put the blanket over it.

965
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 5: Like that blanket is not going to stop a thermonuclear weapon.

966
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: I don't like to throw kool aid on you and

967
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 1: you would still get wet and stained.

968
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 4: It's not going to stop nuclear fall out.

969
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. The picnic basket is worthless against like soft.

970
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 4: Drinks, that's right.

971
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 5: But one of the things, because because I was in

972
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 5: the there was we had a press conference and Catherine

973
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 5: Bigelow was there and everything, and she talked about one

974
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 5: of the things she said was what was terrifying when

975
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 5: they were doing the research for this film. She's like,

976
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 5: there's like there's like nine countries on this planet that

977
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 5: have nuclear capabilities, and like only three of them are NATO.

978
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 5: I might have those numbers wrong, So my apologies to

979
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 5: those who know that.

980
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, well that's one of those things that we

981
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: know when the Soviet Union broke up, and we know

982
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: it's a problem now obviously, but the talk was always

983
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: about you know, the dirty bomb, those weapons that sort

984
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 1: of may have been missing that you know, something could

985
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: be out there, but there are so many actors now

986
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: that meaning countries, nation states are otherwise there could be

987
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: up to no good. It's just sort of I don't

988
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: even know why worry about it, I guess, but what

989
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 1: you just described is unnerving. Edress Alba is always great,

990
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: Jared Harris, which is of course Richard Harris's son who

991
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: was imagining, and a bunch of other stuff. This cast

992
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: seems interesting when you say it's unnerving, and it's weird

993
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: for you to say, so that clearly got into your head.

994
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 5: Well, like like another thing. And Big Old pointed this

995
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 5: out on the press conferences, and you see it in

996
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 5: the film. You see the play out in the film.

997
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 5: You know, SECTAFF will drill this thing four hundred times

998
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 5: a year. They know what to do in this situation,

999
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 5: and you know how to track the missiles and all

1000
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 5: this kind of stuff. And they and they asked in

1001
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 5: the production. They're asking their consultants and they say, you know,

1002
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 5: how much prep prep does the president get? And they're like,

1003
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 5: he's for less than an hour when he takes office,

1004
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 5: just now, and that is it. And then he has

1005
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 5: this guy following him around with football and he's the

1006
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 5: one who makes the decisions of how many how do

1007
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 5: we respond? Do we respond? You know, do we respond?

1008
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 5: And you know, do we spend everything?

1009
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 7: Do we do it?

1010
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 5: Sturgical? I mean, and in this movie, it shows you

1011
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 5: have eighteen minutes from from the moment it happens to

1012
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 5: the moment at Land you have eighteen minutes and then

1013
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 5: within that time all these decisions have to be made.

1014
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 5: So it's it shows how precariously balanced we are. And

1015
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 5: it's just we don't realize that now because that was

1016
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 5: an eighties thing. You know, everyone's like, oh, we're past it.

1017
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 5: We are not past that.

1018
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 4: No, it's still out there, that's for sure.

1019
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: Kevin Carr. By the way, Silver Gecko on Substec. One

1020
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: last thing I have to ask somebody message me just

1021
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: now about it. And I was going to ask anyway.

1022
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: So that's perfect. Thank you Alex for that. You mentioned

1023
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: it Netflix film, which most of us have streaming of that.

1024
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: But it's in theaters and it's not just going to

1025
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: be in the netflick flix theaters because they have some

1026
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: of their own now, right, But will this be like

1027
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: at the a MC down the street downtown what uh?

1028
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 5: Generally I don't know what the release window is for that.

1029
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 5: Sometimes they do just put them in the Netflix theaters.

1030
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 5: That's that is a qualifying run, so it's eligible for Oscars,

1031
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 5: oh and awards. That's why a lot of times this

1032
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 5: time of year, you're gonna see that when when Gambello

1033
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 5: Tomorrow's Frankenstein comes out, you're gonna see that with a

1034
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 5: bunch of stuff that goes to Netflix where they really

1035
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 5: promoted for the at home viewing, because that's that is

1036
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 5: the business model of the Netflix. But they've bought these

1037
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 5: theaters and then they can run them in these theaters

1038
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 5: in New York and LA in order to qualify. So

1039
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 5: I'm not sure how wide it's gonna run. Now, wake

1040
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 5: Up something like Wake Up dead Man, which is the

1041
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 5: next NICs out movie, that might get a wider release

1042
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 5: in theaters, because that tends to make a little bit

1043
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 5: more money in wide release than than some of these

1044
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 5: smaller movies or or these more targeted no pun intended.

1045
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for that.

1046
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you can make a little bit

1047
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: more money, who doesn't want more money in general? Yeah,

1048
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: so I totally get that. Kevin Cart's good to talk

1049
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: to you again. Sorry we missed a week. We'll obviously

1050
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: have you back as always. Silver Gecko on substack. Fat

1051
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: guys at the movies. Thanks for making time. I hope

1052
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: you enjoy the rest of your weekend. Man all right,

1053
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: thank you too, take care of yourself. More Sterling coming back.

1054
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: Ten third report straight away. Lee Mallen has that, including

1055
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: some ties to Rod Serling in the Big one straight away.

1056
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 4: Seven hundred WLW Thanks seven hundred w LW the weekend.

1057
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: It's cheer reds of course, eliminated from posts and playing.

1058
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: Played two wild card games out in LA and lost both,

1059
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: So vacation time for them, rebuilding or at least planning

1060
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: ahead and some wholesale changes maybe to try to get

1061
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: to the next level next year. So hot the stove

1062
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: league action at least for them sooner than later. Other

1063
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: playoffs continuing on tomorrow. The Big twelve football getting ready

1064
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: to get under way tonight. You got West Virginia on

1065
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: the road at BYU just about to kickoff time or

1066
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: just kicked off actually, so we can update you on

1067
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: that as well. Iowa State in town at Knippert tomorrow

1068
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: kickoff noon, home of those football Bearcats.

1069
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 4: News Radio seven hundred WLW.

1070
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: Hear the game here and will follow of course, so

1071
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: with Donade joining me to get you through your Saturday afternoon.

1072
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: So hopefully they can get back on track. Three and

1073
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: one record for the Bearcats, five and oh for Iowa

1074
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 1: State undefeated coming in it should be a good matchup.

1075
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 1: A lot of stuff going on. Oh, by the way,

1076
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: up Bengals and Lions. I wasn't overlooking it before I

1077
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: get hate on it. It's just that, I mean, you know,

1078
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: two and oh start where everybody was like, oh, you know,

1079
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: let's hope that they start off quick rather than in

1080
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 1: a hole. Oh and two oh and three, and then

1081
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: Joe's tow became an issue thanks to the turf problem

1082
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: and jacked it up, so he's out for at least

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Speaker 1: what three months, give or take, maybe not back the

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Speaker 1: season at all. And Jake Browning under center and now

1085
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: oh and two with him, that makes them five hundred

1086
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 1: with a three to one Lions team coming down seventy

1087
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: five to play at pay Corps. You'll hear that also

1088
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW. Let's see, Oh, this is kind

1089
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: of a big news. It's been around going on for

1090
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: a while in the news. It's been now the better

1091
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: part of ninety days. I think it's a three months

1092
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: since p diddy. Sean Colmes used to be puff Daddy,

1093
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: I mean pick various aliases in his creative outlook, including

1094
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: big screen work too in a great movie called Maids

1095
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: from a number of years ago too, made with the

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00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: dead Colombo some time ago.

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Speaker 4: But serious reasons why he's in the news.

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00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 1: He was convicted in federal court in New York three

1099
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: months ago on two prostitution related charges, acquitted of what

1100
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: was considered to be a much more serious charge of racketeering,

1101
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: conspiracy and sex trafficking, but he is still looking to

1102
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 1: get what could have been a good number of years,

1103
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 1: like ten eleven years instead with time served. Another four

1104
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: altogether is what he's been sentenced to, So he's going

1105
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 1: to go away for a while, in addition to also

1106
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: having a pretty decent size fine associated with it. All

1107
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: the talk of sex trafficking, prostitution issues and Hammer coming

1108
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: down on that, it's gotten a lot of attention. I

1109
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: don't know how much of a big deal this is

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00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: for everybody in general at this point, but for anyone

1111
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: wanting justice, anyone wanting retribution for wrongdoing and putting people

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00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: in situations that they don't want to be forced into

1113
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: some type of sex trade or otherwise. This is probably

1114
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: what people wanted, is an outcome as a penalty for

1115
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: that type of behavior. He of course said all the

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00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: things that you would hope someone would say, certainly what

1117
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: a lot of times people say when they're coming up

1118
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: on sentencing after a conviction, to try to lessen what

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00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: they could be having to navigate when it comes to

1120
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: being locked up in losing their freedom. So what I'm

1121
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 1: wondering about is this. And Cassie Ventura, by the way,

1122
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: one of those a singer that was sort of a

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00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: part of his groups tutelage and his production and all

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00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: the other stuff that goes with it. She testified against him,

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00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: very serious contributor to that prosecution and help get that

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00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: conviction came out. And she says, well, nothing can undo

1127
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: the trauma caused by Combs. The sentence imposed today, this

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00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: is what she said earlier, recognizes the impact of the

1129
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: serious offenses he committed. She says, we're confident that the

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00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: support of her family and friends, Miss Ventura will continue

1131
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: healing and knowing that her bravery and fortitude have been

1132
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: an inspiration to so many. What I'm wondering is this,

1133
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: And I'll open up the phones and see where your

1134
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: head is on this five three seven four nine, seven thousand,

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00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: eight hundred, the Big One. If you're on X what

1136
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: used to be called Twitter. I guess I still have

1137
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: to say that for some because occasionally people will say

1138
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: I got there on T footer, But it's X. Yeah,

1139
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: that's what it is and that's what it has been.

1140
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: At Stirling Radio. You can find me there three seven

1141
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: four nine seven eight hundred the Big One. You can

1142
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: talk back the iHeartRadio app as well by clicking on

1143
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: that microphone. Do you think that five years for what

1144
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: he was convicted of is enough?

1145
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 4: Is it fair?

1146
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: Is it just the judge certainly making that determination. Prosecution

1147
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: wanted to full ride. Defense wanted what had already been

1148
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: served effectively, because that's their job.

1149
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 4: I mean, nobody wants to go away. In some cases.

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00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: Being famous and notable maybe makes his time behind bars

1151
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: more difficult. In some cases from what they say, that

1152
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: may make it a little bit easier of a ride,

1153
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: depending on how you look at it. Certainly will help

1154
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: his street cred in some circles relation to that. But

1155
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: if you are someone who loves women as I do,

1156
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: whether it's your mother, your sister, your daughter, or otherwise

1157
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: the woman in your life if you are a woman,

1158
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: my guess. I hate to make an assumption. I learned

1159
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,479
Speaker 1: that watching reruns of the Benny Hill Show on Channel

1160
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: nineteen when I was a young sterling. You make an

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00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: ass to you and me when you assume. But one

1162
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: would surmise that most people that are reasonable looking at

1163
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: someone who's been convicted of something like that, should go away,

1164
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: should spend time, should be a penalty because they were

1165
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: convicted of doing something that caused harm to another or others.

1166
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: In relation to that, he did spend thirteen months away already,

1167
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: he'll get credit for that. Plus the issue of bond

1168
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: five year Supervoice release in addition to that, and apparently

1169
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: obviously fairly broken up about it, I'm wondering, do you

1170
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: think it's fair? Is it reasonable?

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00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 4: Is it just?

1172
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: And in this time and talk of all the Epstein

1173
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: files and tapes that are still dripping out with no

1174
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: real information beyond that there's some big fish out there

1175
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: who have done some pretty serious thing to some underage

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01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: women and others. A part of that, and occasionally here

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01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: in the news you hear in the tri State, other

1178
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: parts of Ohio and the country it's a fairly common thing.

1179
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: It's the oldest profession out there, and oftentimes it's not

1180
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: women of age making a choice to you know, make

1181
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: money the old fashioned way. It's people that have been

1182
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: forced into it, marginalized, trafficed or otherwise. If I've went three, seven, four, nine, seven,

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01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: eight hundred the big one, what do you think. Let's

1184
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: get to bond Hill and Rafael haven't talked to Raffi

1185
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: in a while. Welcome back to seven hundred WLW with Sterling.

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Speaker 5: How are you, brother, Sterling?

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01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 3: How's it going?

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01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: No complaints, my man, it's a nice, beautiful Friday night

1189
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: and talking to you life is good.

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Speaker 6: Well, man, can't get no better than this, hey, Sterling, Man,

1191
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 6: I got a soft spot for women as well. Females.

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01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 8: Yes, my mother, grandmother.

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01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 6: White, anybody you know that's a female. Men who abuse them,

1194
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 6: beat them, rape, sexual assault, manipulate them are lower than

1195
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 6: the lowest creature ever in the history of life. I

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01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 6: hate saying that guy's name, but he is pure scum, scum,

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01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 6: unadulterated filth. Unfortunately, the charges that's stuck the judge, and

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01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 6: I know judges has to be totally unbiased and whatnot,

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01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 6: but it seems like the sentence for the charges fits.

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01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 6: Even though I don't have a problem that the prosecution

1201
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 6: where they were asking for a full eleven years and whatnot.

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01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 6: The five years or whatever that he got, he could

1203
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 6: have done that half that time with eleven or so.

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01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 8: But so be it.

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01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 6: But I think that if you and I followed the case. Sterling,

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01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 6: one of the witnesses that would have the prosecution had

1207
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 6: lined up to speak today in the eleventh hour, she declined,

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01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 6: that's because of fear. And this dude ran a criminal

1209
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 6: enterprise based on sex, drugs, intimidation, fear of violence, a

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01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 6: gun running. He ran a criminal network empire. And of

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01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 6: course you know that the jury they tossed out things

1212
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 6: that they didn't think were revealing everything.

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Speaker 8: But I thought that the.

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Speaker 6: Prosecute, I'm sorry, prostitution across state lines. I thought that

1215
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 6: that was definitely relevant. But this guy should get the

1216
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 6: full amount of time possible. And he's not going to

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01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 6: get it because he still had people who worked for him,

1218
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 6: who abused women, intimidated women, beat women, and and and

1219
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 6: their family members and whatnot. And and people were fearful

1220
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 6: of this guy, but his his bs crying and and

1221
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 6: and and speaking before the court and letters and everything

1222
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 6: like that. He's talking about that. You know he's so

1223
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 6: honest now and you know he'll never do it like that.

1224
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 6: Remember when the video when he beat hit Casfie in the.

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01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 4: Hallway the elevator.

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01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 6: Right now he said, prior to that video coming out, like, oh,

1227
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 6: I've never hit her. I never abused Kathy. The video

1228
01:03:55,960 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 6: drops and everything in crickets. See, he's a live sterling

1229
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 6: because he's just I'm only hanging up so you can

1230
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 6: get other calls because I don't want anything to slip

1231
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 6: out of my mouth. Okay, he disgusts me, brother, he

1232
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 6: really does.

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Speaker 1: I understand. I can hear it through the the you

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01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: know your call and conversation, refe. I appreciate the call.

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01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: One question before you bounce, though, is it interesting to

1236
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 1: you as it is to me? The fame, the fortune,

1237
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: the notoriety oftentimes brings a soft feeling, more of a

1238
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: feeling of either indifference or somehow uh an idea of

1239
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: softness and consideration for the accused in this case, the

1240
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: convicted and did it columns in a situation like this,

1241
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: to compare to if it was just somebody random off

1242
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: the street, he unfortunately.

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01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 6: Yes, and then he had his kids and family members

1244
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 6: parading in front with the fake peers and all that.

1245
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 6: You know, they're just looking at the money. He's talking

1246
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 6: about his business is gone and everything like that. It's

1247
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 6: not he's still going to make money by ways of

1248
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 6: his criminality. But unfortunately, jury members and others and especially

1249
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 6: in the black community, you know, sterling, but they just

1250
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 6: see this guy. You know, it's just like I think

1251
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 6: one of his attorneys she got up there crime saying, like,

1252
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 6: you know, he's a beacon of hope in the black community.

1253
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 6: The hope is that you hope that this guy doesn't beat, rape,

1254
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 6: drug your daughter, niece, granddaughter.

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01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 5: That's that's the hope.

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01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just.

1257
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 6: All bs that they get caught up in this. You

1258
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 6: know that he's he's somebody, he's somebody.

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01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: Power, hunk, power and fame are a very interesting thing

1260
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: and how people want to let go of stuff and

1261
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: go along with certain elements of it are discounted or

1262
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: somehow marginalize the victim. But we're in a society historically,

1263
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: globally speaking, that is marginalized, treated as less than insignificant

1264
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: or as property. Women and certainly children in so many cases,

1265
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: and it continues to be the case like that. Now

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01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: it's it's bewildering. You're right, you know, and I was

1267
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: raised by Yeah. It really is good to talk to you, Ruffel.

1268
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate the comment. Always you always you take care

1269
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: of yourself, Enjoy the weekend. Five point three seven four

1270
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: nine seven eight hundred. The big one the iHeartRadio app.

1271
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: You can pick up the phone, give it the finger,

1272
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: or to click that microphone on the iHeart app and

1273
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: leave a message that way too. I'm on x AX

1274
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: Sterling Radio as well. I'd like to hear from some

1275
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: ladies on this as well. Give you a chance to

1276
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: sound off on this.

1277
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 6: Uh.

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01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: It is the oldest profession in the book, but forced

1279
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: into it, you know, somehow treated less than abused, beaten

1280
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: or otherwise. Is the thing that is a very wild thing.

1281
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: If it just popped up in the news about somebody

1282
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: from pick A city in the Tri State. I don't

1283
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: want a point a finger in any community where something

1284
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: could happen, But imagine anywhere along seventy one or seventy five,

1285
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: in a hotel someplace or downtown place it happens.

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01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 4: But here's the wrinkle.

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01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: I want to ask, because I've mentioned this before in

1288
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: some fashion, the same way when it comes to legal

1289
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: weed or other drug situations. You know, where you take

1290
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: the moratorium off of it, where you can control it,

1291
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: where you could allow the authorities to have a hand

1292
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: in it. You're never going to completely eradicate the so

1293
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: called black market of trade of drugs or sex and

1294
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: so forth, but to have it safer and more secure,

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Speaker 1: and it is allowed to have some hand of authority

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01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 1: in there for health care and keeping the activities safer,

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01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: not completely safe, and making sure that it's people that

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Speaker 1: are in it because that's what they choose rather than

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Speaker 1: what they've been forced to do. Does that not make

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01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: it better? Should that not be something that we talk about.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying normalize it, but it's going on. It

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01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: has always gone on, and it will never stop going

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01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: on because if not getting it, and even if you've

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01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: got it at home, there's a whole lot of people

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01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: who like to either buy a power play or to

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01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: get what they can't get at the house someplace else

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01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 1: out there. Five point three seven eight hundred the big

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Speaker 1: one real quick, Let's get Chad here before the break

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Speaker 1: on hold, and then we'll give you a chance to

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Speaker 1: speak your mind as well. Chad, what do you think

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01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 1: are with Sterling on the big one?

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Speaker 9: Hey, thanks for all Listen everything that got your least

1313
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 9: car says right, completely right.

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Speaker 8: Listen.

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Speaker 9: If I'm a lot of these victims, I got to

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01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 9: be disgusted with this. The serious charges, I mean, what

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01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 9: he did was serious. But I'm saying the other charges

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01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 9: that they threw out, it's clear that he bought them

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01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 9: or paid or there's money involved here that got rid

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Speaker 9: of these various serious charges. And the fact of the

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01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 9: sense he got. I mean, I'm glad he's going away,

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01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 9: but let's not kid ourselves here for what he did

1323
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 9: is a slap on the wrist he's gonna get. I mean,

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Speaker 9: I'm disgusted, Like I said, the victims have got to

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Speaker 9: be disgusted about this. I mean because, like I said,

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Speaker 9: the other charges that they that they threw out, and

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01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 9: people had to see this coming. You know, when they

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01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:00,040
Speaker 9: threw these other charges out, they you knew you I

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01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 9: knew this was coming. He was going to get. I'm

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Speaker 9: not saying four years of I send, but what he

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01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 9: should have got, what the charges that had left, they

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01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 9: should have gave him the max. Considering all the other

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Speaker 9: charges that we all know he was guilty of, they

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Speaker 9: threw out Chad.

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Speaker 4: You know what's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to a friend of mine earlier today

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Speaker 1: about it, and she was saying that before the sentencing

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Speaker 1: came out, that she thought he was going to be

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01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 1: able to walk. She said she was surprised pleasantly, but

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Speaker 1: not as happy as she would be, as you said,

1341
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Speaker 1: if he had gotten the MAX. But I'll ask you

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01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: what I asked her, and she said that she thought

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01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: it should be decriminalized and controlled in some fashion, talking

1344
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Speaker 1: about the sex trade. But it's not going to eliminate

1345
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,799
Speaker 1: those who like kids in, those who want to traffic

1346
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: in people who were forced into it. But should it

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Speaker 1: be something you know, I don't know, if you have

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Speaker 1: a red light district or something like in Amsterdam or

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01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: other parts of the world. Would that make things safer

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01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: and more secure for the customer as well as the

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01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: person who's doing the work. Or is that just too

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01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 1: far down, you know, across the line of what's inappropriate.

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Speaker 9: Do you think No, I think you're exactly right that

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01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 9: that has to be that's something that can be controlled,

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01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 9: because the way it is right now, there's never going.

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Speaker 4: To be controlled.

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Speaker 9: It's all like you said, it's always going to be

1358
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 9: out there and the people that got all the power

1359
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 9: and the money, they're going to keep doing this stuff.

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01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 9: It's got to be controlled. And it's something like that.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know the numbers, the statistic, but

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01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 9: I'm sure something like in Amsterdam with a red audition

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01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 9: all these other places that have something, or I'll go

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01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 9: to Philippines Platoff and they got like something like that.

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01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 9: I mean, it's it's more controlled now. Obviously you're still

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01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 9: going to have the miners getting in there other stuff,

1367
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 9: but there's got to be something to stop this because

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01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 9: this happens. And this is this because it's the high

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01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 9: profile case. We don't I mean, something like this happens

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01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 9: every day that we don't hear about just because it

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01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 9: has to be Sean Colmes, That's why we've heard everything.

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Speaker 9: It's disgusting and I don't know what has to be done,

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01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 9: but I think something like that. I'm not saying I'm

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01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 9: promoting it, but that might be the only way to

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01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 9: kind of slow this crap down.

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Speaker 8: That's it.

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Speaker 4: You know, great call chat.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the takes, man, I appreciate you listening being a

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Speaker 1: part of the show. Straight away, You're eleven o'clock report.

1380
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Speaker 1: More on this, and a whole lot of other stuff

1381
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 1: to touch on, including doctor Donald Schleck conversation I had

1382
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: with her, former head of political science at Wright State

1383
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 1: about what looks to be the beginnings of an Israeli

1384
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: Hamas broker peace deal, thanks with little help from the

1385
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 1: United States and Tony Blair of the UK. Coming up

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01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,919
Speaker 1: more Sterling here, home of the Reds, Home of the Bengals,

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01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: Home of the Musketeers, and those football Bearcats. Taken on

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Speaker 1: Iowa State Tomorrow noon kickoff here seven hundred WLW Cincinnati,

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01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:35,440
Speaker 1: and Friday night the tri State. Unusually warm leading into October,

1390
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: not quite the as so bad as it could be.

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01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 1: I remember cold and rain and a lot of high

1392
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: school football. Nine updates on score sooner than later. Conversation

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Speaker 1: with doctor Donald Schleck, a Right State University former head

1394
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Speaker 1: of political science now professor Merida. We'll get an earful

1395
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Speaker 1: about what looks to be a positive news about a

1396
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Speaker 1: broker peace deal and an agreement between Israel and Hamas.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how that plays out coming up after your

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Speaker 1: eleven thirty report. Between then and now, continue on a

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Speaker 1: little of this conversation. Actually, I have a lot of

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01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 1: things I want to get to in a short amount

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01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 1: of time. Mentioning earlier about the outcome and the sentencing

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01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: of Sean Ditty Colms used to be puff daddy, a

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01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 1: puffy whatever you want to call Hi, Pete didty, it

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01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Inmate number whatever you want to call it.

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01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 1: Looking away now to fifty months locked up just over

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01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: four years for two prostitution a prostitution related charges with

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Speaker 1: the prosecution that successfully convicted him some three months ago,

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01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 1: about ninety days it was sentencing, coming out today, could

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01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 1: have faced something in the neighborhood of eleven years and

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01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: a couple extra months associated with that. I ask you,

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01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: is that fair? Is reasonable judgment? Judgment? And because it

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01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 1: is the oldest profession in the book, But there's a

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01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 1: difference between somebody deciding to do that as a line

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01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 1: of work and revenue generation as a job for one

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01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: of a better way to describe it, so called oldest

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01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: profession there is, and being forced into it to be traffic,

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01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: to be abused, to be beaten for somebody else's profit.

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01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: In this is really sort of what that boiled down to.

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01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 1: If you are a woman. If you are a mother,

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01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 1: a daughter, a sister, a grandmother, you name it an

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Speaker 1: aunt whatever it is. I know I was raised by

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01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: a mom who did it on her own. She has

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Speaker 1: like four three four sisters, and I'm sympathetic. I love women,

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01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: and one making a choice to do something is one thing.

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01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: One being forced into it. Abused in general is a

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01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 1: weird thing when you're talking about buying of a person,

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01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 1: whether it's renting them their parts or otherwise, which is

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01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 1: sort of what it boils down to their accompaniment whatever

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01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: it is. In general, trafficking of them is an odd scenario.

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01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: But I think freedom of choice for consenting adults is

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01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 1: one thing. This clearly was something else. Is that time

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01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: away some fifty months legit? Is it reasonable? Is it rational?

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01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:10,759
Speaker 1: What about the decriminalization of and legality of somehow bringing

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01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 1: out prostitution in a more controlled way the way it

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01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,520
Speaker 1: is in parts of Nevada and other parts of the world.

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01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: Is that something that would make it safer and more secure?

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01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: Five three, seven, four, nine, seven, eight hundred The big one.

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01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 1: I asked this before, and I'll restate this. I got

1439
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: some hate at Sterling Radio one X about this. Five

1440
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: one three seven nine eight hundred, the big one. It

1441
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: is something that has always been there, and even legalizing

1442
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: it or decriminalizing it, in controlling it, however much safer

1443
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: it might make it for those that are the patronage,

1444
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, those that are shopping for love for one

1445
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 1: of a better way to describe it, probably not love

1446
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 1: but the love, and or those that are actually doing

1447
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 1: it as their business, you know, health wise, safety, security,

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01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: et cetera. There's always going to be be a black

1449
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: market for it. Even though there's legal weed, there's still

1450
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: a black market for that and a danger associated with it,

1451
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: depending on who you're dealing with and how it rolls.

1452
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 1: I want to know what you think, Tinaz First was

1453
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 1: Sterling appreciate your holding for so long? It with Sterling

1454
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW. What do you think about one

1455
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: the sentencing of Didy Was it reasonable and just do

1456
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 1: you think? And what about making it legal?

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01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 8: Well let me find out first. Let me get this right.

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Speaker 10: When I first started listening, I thought they said that

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01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 10: did he got five years eleven years?

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Speaker 3: No?

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01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 4: No, no, he was up.

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Speaker 1: He could have faced like eleven years plus he got

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01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 1: four years for plus time served already, which is somewhere

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01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood of thirteen months. I think he's already

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01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 1: been away, so but he'll have another four years behind bars.

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Speaker 8: Well, I think that's a travesty to women.

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Speaker 10: I think it's hugely disrespectful for our legal system to

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01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 10: only have given him that much triticularly most of us

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01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 10: thought he should have gotten twenty years or longer. Not

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01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 10: only was its sex trafficking, it was very brutal beatings.

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01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 8: It was you know, they were.

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Speaker 10: Threatened with their life.

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01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 8: You also have the.

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Speaker 10: Drug trafficking, and if you're taking it to another country,

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01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 10: wouldn't that be illegally transferring drugs or transferring drugs internationally,

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01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 10: which they seem to blow over. I think, you know, truthfully,

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01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 10: it's embarrassing for our legal teams, our legal systems. There

1478
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 10: was so much that he was in charge for that

1479
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 10: he should have been certainly a whole lot more than

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Speaker 10: just prostitution.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was just going to ask you, because

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01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 1: you know, all the talk and it's sort of died

1483
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: down because there's just so much in a news cycle

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01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 1: at this point.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's almost overwhelming a wave of it.

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01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 1: But you know, the Epstein Fi else those associated with it,

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01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 1: we know he killed himself allegedly. We know about Elayne

1488
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 1: Maxwell in her circumstance and her sharing of information subsequent

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01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: to her prosecution. Her time away got her a little

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01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 1: bit of a softer, more livable circumstance, which I think

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01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: is a joke.

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01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 4: Frankly.

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01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 1: Yes, that being said, do you think you know what

1494
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: about what we don't know now and what is apparently

1495
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: yet to be shared openly about all that with the

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Speaker 1: Epstein files thing, And I'm not you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: care who's involved. Isn't that something that should be also

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01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 1: thought of, because I mean, this stuff happens all the time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, And I think a lot of the hold up

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01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 10: on you know, the Epstein trials is because there's too

1502
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 10: many political people and too many people in high up positions,

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01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 10: even from other countries that were involved in the Epstein

1504
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 10: And I think that's that's a travesty that because of that,

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01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 10: we're not going to really know the truth on all

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01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 10: of that, And that's I think that's bull crap, you know,

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Speaker 10: I mean, the American people are you know, we're kept

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01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 10: away from so much of the truth because who may

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01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 10: be involved and what the position is and what money

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01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 10: they have involved. And not do that way. You know

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01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 10: who's like has had you know, instances where on on

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01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 10: my phone that I have gotten news that states a

1513
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,719
Speaker 10: lot of different actors that are involved in that as well,

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01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 10: And I think because of their money and their position,

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01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 10: is wrong for them not to be named, not for

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01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 10: the American people to medd the truth. You know, I

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01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 10: think you know it all boils down to a lot

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01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 10: of people. Well, it boils down through money and who

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01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 10: you are.

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01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, power, money, power, authority. It It's always been the

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01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 1: case and it will always be the circumstance. Tina, you

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01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,879
Speaker 1: mentioned something associated with us that I think is relevant

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01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 1: in thought provoking. So I'll pose the question I've posed

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01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 1: to others and have mentioned here before, if in fact

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01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 1: it were decriminalized, if it were controlled, would it make

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01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 1: it safer and more secure for more people involved, be

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01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 1: it the customer, the client, one for health, and all

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01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: the other stuff that goes with it. It's already going on,

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01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,719
Speaker 1: It's always been going on. But the difference, of course,

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01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 1: in the case of Diddy with what he was convicted of,

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01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 1: with those with the Epstein thing is a little bit

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01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,679
Speaker 1: different because we're talking about underage girls. In many cases

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01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: effectively children kids is really what it is youngteen girls,

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01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,520
Speaker 1: which is really bewildering.

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Speaker 8: And that's rage. That's not just sex trafficking. That's also rape.

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01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, underage and even women over age that you know

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01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 10: are forced into it. It's that's rape as well as

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01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 10: well as the sex trafficking. And don't I don't think,

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01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 10: I don't believe that it should be any any breaks

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01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 10: for that money or power. I know I was right

1541
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 10: at eleven years old. I spotted even at a eleven

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01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 10: years old with my mother and the guy got forty

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01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 10: years and he did thirty six thirty six with those

1544
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 10: forty And we need to see sentences like that again

1545
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 10: where you know they're giving you know, they do the crime,

1546
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 10: they get sentenced, and they should do the time the

1547
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 10: full time. Too many people are let out early and

1548
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 10: it's another reasons for them to continue doing what they

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01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 10: were doing. The prostitution has been around as long as

1550
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 10: we know. It doesn't make it right, It shouldn't make

1551
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 10: it legal, it shouldn't make it okay, and certainly it's

1552
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 10: should be treated, you know, to the fullest extent of

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01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 10: the law. You know, men can go in and do

1554
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 10: time or women if they break the man, which the

1555
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 10: cases are a lot lower, but they do the time,

1556
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 10: and they get off and they go home at the

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01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 10: end of their time. Women have that memory like I

1558
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 10: have the memory of maybeing rate eleven, and I could

1559
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 10: tell you the whole story beginning to end. And I'm

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01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 10: sixty one now. So we don't get a break from it.

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01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 10: We don't get time off for good behavior. You remember

1562
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 10: it for the rest of our life.

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01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, your sentenced to that abuse forever. First of all, team,

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01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that you suffered that. And I can't imagine

1565
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 1: that circumstance and the fact that you went through it

1566
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 1: in a prosecution and they were able to send that

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01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: waste of flesh away for some period of time thirty

1568
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: six or forty years. That's something that doesn't happen that often,

1569
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 1: especially in the window of time that you're talking about.

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01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 1: That's in fact unusual. I will say this that almost

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01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 1: every woman that I have gotten over the years to

1572
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 1: be friends with, not necessarily dated, but just friends. Even

1573
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 1: the conversation has come up. It is astounding to me

1574
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 1: how many tell me about being abused in some fashion,

1575
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 1: whether it's date rape or some other type of assault.

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01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 1: I would say sixty percent that I've talked to, if

1577
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: it's ever broached in conversation, have told me they victims

1578
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 1: of such activity.

1579
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 10: Yes, yes, And the thing is, and this was in

1580
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 10: seventy five, but we need to go back to that

1581
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 10: same sentence, a kind where you're giving the full extent

1582
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,719
Speaker 10: of the penalty and you have to serve that all time.

1583
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 10: There's no getting off for you know, good behavior. That's

1584
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 10: what happened with me.

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01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 8: They let the guy off once for good behavior.

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01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 10: He was in jail for five years, and when they

1587
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 10: let him out for good behavior, he came out, he

1588
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 10: got me.

1589
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 8: It was right back in jail. And that's the thing.

1590
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 8: I mean.

1591
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 10: Women don't get a break from time. We remember it forever. Yes,

1592
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,799
Speaker 10: I mean I could tell you what happened from moment

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01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 10: to moment, and that was, you know, in nineteen seventy five.

1594
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 8: So where's my break? Where's my time off?

1595
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 10: But you know, I rely on God?

1596
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 5: Was still.

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01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,600
Speaker 10: Another thing that the country is falling away from is

1598
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 10: the belief in God. The strength that's sad.

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01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:02,680
Speaker 1: The strength that you you have shown and endured in

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01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,640
Speaker 1: carrying those scars with you. But to pick up the

1601
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 1: phone to you know, contribute to this conversation and share

1602
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 1: that with me, and you know, the tens of thousands,

1603
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 1: if not as Willy likes to say, millions and millions

1604
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 1: listening shows how strong you are. I'm sorry that you

1605
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 1: dealt with that, but I am glad that you've been

1606
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 1: strong enough to endure it as a child effectively to

1607
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 1: put them away, but also to be able to share

1608
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: it now.

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01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 4: So thank you very much.

1610
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 8: Not a problem.

1611
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 10: I mean, I just want to tell people that, you know,

1612
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 10: they don't break us totally. We do remember it for

1613
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 10: a long time and we're somewhat scarred. But you know,

1614
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 10: I have a higher power who who just helps me

1615
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 10: forget the bad parts. And actually I forgave him after

1616
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 10: a number of years. He was sick and I didn't

1617
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 10: know that as a child, but I know it now.

1618
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 10: And the thing is, you still have to go through,

1619
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 10: you have to go on. But they should still be

1620
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 10: punished at the full extent of the law and it

1621
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 10: should stick.

1622
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 8: You know, no getting off. You know, early good behavior

1623
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 8: and booth crap.

1624
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 7: You know, if you had good behavior, you would have

1625
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 7: done it.

1626
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 10: So but I thank you for running the program. I

1627
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 10: love your program. I'm in front Cincinnati, I live in Leumington, Ohio. Now,

1628
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 10: but I always enjoy getting into the van on all

1629
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 10: the road.

1630
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 8: Trip and turning you guys on. Well, Tina, I appreciate yourself.

1631
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 1: I appreciate you listening to being a part of it,

1632
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 1: and just I can't say how in all of you

1633
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 1: being able to comfortably share that, or at least sharing it.

1634
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 1: I don't know how comfortable it was. And hopefully maybe

1635
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 1: you know somebody listening was able to be helped in

1636
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 1: some fashion by hearing your tale and what you've dealt

1637
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 1: with too.

1638
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 4: So thank you very much.

1639
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed the rest of your weekend and

1640
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 1: feel free to call back any time. Take care of

1641
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 1: yourself certainly. Well all right, Tina, thank you, God bless

1642
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 1: you pleasure too.

1643
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 4: Thank you, Tina. Quick break will come back. It's wow.

1644
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 1: I can't imagine having to suffer through something like that,

1645
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 1: especially as a child, and to be able to go

1646
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 1: through the prosecution process, the whole judicial system scenario, and

1647
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: going back into the seventies it was changing somewhat, but

1648
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 1: a child having to navigate that and to be strong

1649
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 1: enough to deal with that had to have great support

1650
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 1: from family and though those are out there and even

1651
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 1: in the situation in court proceedings.

1652
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 4: So often you hear.

1653
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 1: About it, and you've read about it, and you see

1654
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 1: it in film and everything else. And the people who

1655
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 1: go through such things often or they turn it around

1656
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 1: in a court setting and want to point the finger

1657
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 1: of blame at the victim, which should never ever be

1658
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 1: the case. I'm sterling in. This is seven hundred WLW

1659
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: conversation from early with doctor donnad Schleck former had a

1660
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 1: political science at right State, now professor Meredith. You know,

1661
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 1: she's Cincinnati kid talking about the Israel hamas a broker

1662
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 1: peace deal with the help of President Trump the United States.

1663
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 1: Dates and Tony Blair from the UK, former Prime Minister.

1664
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 1: There details on that and great insights from her. Back

1665
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: again tomorrow with Donna d in the afternoon following UC football,

1666
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 1: Bearcats looking to take on Iowa State. They're unbeaten five

1667
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,600
Speaker 1: and oh ranked fourteen in the country. You see Bearcats

1668
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 1: three and one and Big twelve action. Of course, some

1669
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 1: of that going on right now BYU hosting West Virginia

1670
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 1: leading fourteen to three. What else is going on? Oh

1671
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: FC Cincinnati they're doing it tomorrow night as well. They

1672
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 1: take on New York and I think it's an Apple

1673
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: TV game if I'm not mistaken. And they're playing on

1674
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:44,799
Speaker 1: the road in Harrison, New Jersey at Sports Illustrated Stadium.

1675
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 4: So there is that. What else is there?

1676
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 8: Oh?

1677
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 1: Well, Bengals Lions Sunday afternoon, late kickoff like four point

1678
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 1: thirty four to twenty five. Hopefully the Bengals can get

1679
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 1: back on the winning side of things. Two and oho

1680
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: to start, Joe's Toad became initial zero and two with

1681
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 1: Jake Browning under center trying to rework the offense as

1682
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 1: seemingly all the wheels came off. Hopefully they'll get it

1683
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 1: back together and maybe shock the world. I think it's

1684
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:11,759
Speaker 1: a ten and that last the last time I looked,

1685
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 1: Drew wester Heidie correct me if I'm wrong. I think

1686
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 1: it was a ten and a half point spread. And

1687
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 1: it's not for the well the Bengal Tigers that we've

1688
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 1: got right, Yeah, So we've got big cats looking to

1689
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 1: maul each other at Pacoorps down on the River and

1690
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 1: on the big one straight away. Lee Mawen has news

1691
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,759
Speaker 1: conversation with Donna Schlake on the other side back again tomorrow,

1692
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 1: also with Donna d right here on seven hundred WLW