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Speaker 1: Thursday night show we'd like to call the Midweek Crisis

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night Edition. I'm Dan Carroll, glad to be here,

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Speaker 1: Glad you are here as well. Rush Jackson running the

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Speaker 1: big board in the seven hundred WLW Command Center. A

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Speaker 1: lot going on tonight, a lot of stuff I gotta

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Speaker 1: get to. My buddy Joe Hofft is going to be here,

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Speaker 1: that's going to happen in the ten o'clock hour, A

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff to talk about with him. Jeff Dornick

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Speaker 1: hour from now, and we're going to talk about bots. Bots,

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Speaker 1: a lot of bots that we all have to deal

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Speaker 1: with in life. And how do you know? How do

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Speaker 1: you know? Jeff Dornick is a guy that has seen

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Speaker 1: so we will talk with him about that. But we're

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Speaker 1: gonna start off a little bit different tonight. Normally, the

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Speaker 1: say for the later portions of the show, so especially

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Speaker 1: those with you know, the less of a chance that

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Speaker 1: kids with tender Ears might be listening. I'm bringing them

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Speaker 1: on early tonight because there's a couple of things I

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Speaker 1: off with something that is far more important than in

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Speaker 1: the news of the day, and that is Honor Flight

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Speaker 1: Try State and this is the Honor Flight. Is something

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Speaker 1: that tell me about your journey with Honor Flight, because

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Speaker 1: you this is something that has really become somewhat of

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Speaker 1: a calling in your life to be to be part

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Speaker 1: of Honor Flight, Try State and part of the board.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it started as simply signing up at State dot

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Speaker 2: org many many years ago to be a guardian. So

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Speaker 2: I started the way many people start in Honor Flight,

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Speaker 2: although you can also start by just simply being a

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Speaker 2: volunteer or what we call an ambassador. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I met. It was a moving experience and ever since

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Speaker 2: that first Honor Flight I was I was hooked, man,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was it.

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Speaker 1: That's all it took.

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Speaker 2: And I've been involved ever since. And now I have

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Speaker 2: the good fortune to sit on their board and we

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Speaker 2: are we are quietly doing things under the leadership of

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Speaker 2: Sheryl Pop and the rest of the fine people on

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Speaker 2: the board. We are doing. I think we're quietly doing

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Speaker 2: things very well and always looking for community support, corporate sponsors.

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Speaker 2: We have some great ones Vance Outdoors and gie Aviation Is.

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Speaker 2: I believe that's one of their divisions. They have so

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Speaker 2: many I forget which one is the correct one, but

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Speaker 2: I believe it's GEA Aviation Is. They're actually sponsoring the

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Speaker 2: next flight. And yeah, and I got to tell you

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Speaker 2: we have there's a lot of things, you know. I

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Speaker 2: have veterans in my family and I've always I am

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Speaker 2: not a veterans. You are, Dan Carroll, and I will

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Speaker 2: I will have the honor of I believe this next

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Speaker 2: week of pushing you around DC and A wheelchairs.

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Speaker 1: No, that is not correct because I think and I

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Speaker 1: want to let everybody know that. About what about three

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Speaker 1: Cheryl Pop and I don't know, I don't know Andrew

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Speaker 1: I you had anything to do with this, But it

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Speaker 1: was an invite to go on this honor flight on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: April the seventh, leaving out a CBEG at five am.

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Speaker 1: And when I saw this, I was it was amazing

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Speaker 1: I was on an honor flight, the very one of

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Speaker 1: So I got to know I got to go on

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Speaker 1: I could not say no to it. So I'll be

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Speaker 2: Well, I've requested a wheelchair for you.

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Speaker 1: I am not look condition.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm told I'm on your bus, So I'm

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Speaker 2: Of that's fine, I guess we will gauntlet is thrown down,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I would love to tell you the number

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Speaker 2: I've not that I'm anything special. Many people are in

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Speaker 1: I'm going God, I honest, he didn't and I almost

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Speaker 2: I don't want it's still the beans. But I'm fairly

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Speaker 2: certain that Frank's not up listening at this hour. So

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Speaker 2: Frank is going to be celebrating his Frank wenton camp

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Speaker 2: on the west side of Cincinnati. Well, we're the veteran's

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Speaker 2: is I believe it's this month. I'm almost positive it's

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Speaker 2: And he still is living alone, spry, independently, and uh

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Speaker 3: You know, I think I think the more uh.

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Speaker 2: Now we're primarily uh, you know, we're out of Korea

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Speaker 2: and this spans you know, I've had I've had Republican veterans,

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Speaker 2: not the politicians in DC. That is the veterans of

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Speaker 1: And that's such a great point because it seems that

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Speaker 1: fewer things that can really bring us together, no matter

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Speaker 1: you're emotionally drained after what happened, and then you see

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Speaker 2: Yeah, CBG has been an outstanding partner and they are

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Speaker 2: And you know, five o'clock for a lot of these guys,

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Speaker 2: these older guys such as yourself, Dan, is a pretty

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Speaker 1: Know, bushy tailed baby, I'll be ready. I'll be ready

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Speaker 2: We shall see. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: we have to check all these people through TSA and

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Speaker 2: the TSA agents also, you know, are very very accommodating

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Speaker 2: They do an outstanding job getting us through with relative ease.

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Speaker 2: I highly suggest, I highly suggest that Tuesday evening you

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Speaker 4: They care about how long you're staying on the platform.

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00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 4: They care about keeping you on. So they're gonna feed

437
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 4: you stuff that's going to get you a dopamine hit.

438
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 4: Whether it's positive or negative, they don't care. They just

439
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 4: care about getting you that dopamine hit, gets you addicted,

440
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 4: get you coming back from more, and keep you scrolling

441
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Speaker 4: on that never ending on that the never ending news feed.

442
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Speaker 6: Uh.

443
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Speaker 1: Then when when you're dealing with.

444
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 4: The boss and the and and all that, you know,

445
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 4: the thing you have to realize is that there's there's

446
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 4: bot farms that are out for higher and so there's

447
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 4: lots of competing interests when it comes to bot farms.

448
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 4: For some people that are using it to amplify their

449
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 4: own social media accounts. For other people, it's, uh, it

450
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 4: may be an intelligence agency, maybe ours, maybe another another government's,

451
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 4: and they're using bot farms in order to push narratives.

452
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's it's just you know, propaganda to benefit them.

453
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's actually propaganda in order to discredit somebody else.

454
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 4: There's lots of different reasons why that happens. And or

455
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 4: you know, the other side of it is that you know, businesses, well,

456
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 4: wealthy people, people that have tax they all use bot

457
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 4: farms oftentimes in order to manipulate the public in order

458
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Speaker 4: to support or oppose something that they want them to do.

459
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Speaker 4: And so there's lots of different motivations going on simultaneously,

460
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 4: and then we're stuck in the middle, you know, in

461
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,479
Speaker 4: all this chaos, trying to figure out what's really going on.

462
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Speaker 4: And and I have and I theorize, and I don't

463
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Speaker 4: have any hard evidence on this one, but I theorize

464
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Speaker 4: that that there's also another component at play in that

465
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 4: the powers that be want chaos to where we can't

466
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 4: tell what's real and what's not. And so then where

467
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 4: do we turn in order to be the arbiter of truth?

468
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Speaker 4: We would turn to somebody that would be a quote

469
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Speaker 4: unquote trusted source, an expert. Maybe it's a government agency

470
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Speaker 4: to tell us what's real and what's not. Maybe it's

471
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Speaker 4: artificial intelligence something like that, to where then there can

472
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Speaker 4: be a source of a quote unquote source of truth

473
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 4: that we all turn to because we can't make heads

474
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Speaker 4: or tails about what's.

475
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Speaker 1: Really going on. Yeah, what what's to your way of thinking,

476
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Speaker 1: what is the biggest red flag that's something that you

477
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Speaker 1: think you're engaging with is not real. What's the one

478
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Speaker 1: biggest giveaway on.

479
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Speaker 4: That, Yeah, honestly, like you know, for me that the

480
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Speaker 4: easiest giveaway is oftentimes if you're on if you're on X,

481
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 4: you see an account and that's got eight numbers at

482
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Speaker 4: the end of it, it's a bot, Like like ninety

483
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Speaker 4: nine point ninety nine nine percent of the time that

484
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Speaker 4: that would be a bot. The other the hard part

485
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Speaker 4: about X specifically is that they allow pretty much anybody

486
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Speaker 4: with a credit card to actually get verified, so you

487
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Speaker 4: don't even know if you're if who you're talking to

488
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Speaker 4: is a real person or a.

489
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Speaker 1: Bot or you know, whatever it is.

490
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Speaker 4: And and they don't actually weed out the unverified accounts

491
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 4: either to where you know, if you're verified or unverified,

492
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 4: you're still kind of being able to be to be seen.

493
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,959
Speaker 4: The big the biggest thing that you want to look

494
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 4: out for is obviously the handle with with a bunch

495
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Speaker 4: of random numbers at the tail end of whatever whatever

496
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 4: their username is. And and then also what you want

497
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Speaker 4: to look at the kind of the kind of content

498
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Speaker 4: that is being replied to. Uh, you know, do they

499
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Speaker 4: have zero followers and they're replying to a bajillion different people?

500
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Speaker 1: Probably probably a bot?

501
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 4: Are they just repeating talking points that that you're seeing

502
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 4: the same lines happening over.

503
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Speaker 1: And over and over again. I see a lot of that.

504
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Speaker 1: I think what you just said right there is probably

505
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Speaker 1: the most common thing that I see a lot of

506
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Speaker 1: on X You've got an interesting line on your website.

507
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm looking at pick Acts right now, and you've got

508
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Speaker 1: that great picture of you up there, the same picture

509
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Speaker 1: one two right there. But you've got this saying on

510
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Speaker 1: on your pick Axe homepage. It reads, freedom of speech

511
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: without freedom of reach is control. What exactly does that mean?

512
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: I think that's a very compelling statement right there.

513
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well so so a lot a lot of platforms

514
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Speaker 4: are trying to make them out to be a free

515
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 4: speech platform. You have to see that with that actually

516
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 4: in Facebook's trying to make that claim now. But but

517
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 4: you know, literally in the terms of service on X

518
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 4: they have they have a policy that literally states you

519
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 4: have freedom of speech but not freedom of reach, which

520
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 4: means that they allow you to say whatever you want,

521
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 4: but that doesn't mean that they actually have to let

522
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 4: anybody see it, which flies directly in the face of

523
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 4: what our founding fathers ever intended for the First Amendment

524
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 4: and free speech to be, which was that you could

525
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 4: actually go down to your town square and say what

526
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 4: say whatever you want without restriction. You could go down

527
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 4: to your local printing press, print out pamphlets on your

528
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 4: grievances against the government, distributed really without limitation.

529
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Speaker 3: Uh.

530
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 4: And the key is, the key word in the constitution

531
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Speaker 4: is actually this this word of with without being without

532
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 4: abridging your speech or a bridging your freedom of the press,

533
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 4: which is basically limitation. And so and so when you

534
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 4: when you see that, what ends up happening is they

535
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 4: give you the illusion that you are able to say

536
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 4: whatever you want. But what difference does it make if

537
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 4: you can't if nobody actually sees it. And that's that's

538
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 4: the thing, is that they're able to cite with all

539
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 4: off the truth tellers there are the silo with's all

540
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 4: off if we're not fitting in with whatever narrative they

541
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 4: want to push, whatever propaganda's being pushed out there, and

542
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 4: you don't, You can't actually compete it for the hearts

543
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 4: and the minds of people on the social media platforms

544
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 4: because you're being artificially limited, and so you're being controlled

545
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 4: without even really realizing It's it's a very subversive form

546
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 4: of censorship.

547
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Speaker 2: That's happening.

548
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

549
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Speaker 1: I remember when Elon Musk took over X and then

550
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: the that summer it was called the Twitter Files, and

551
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: all the Twitter files came out, and it showed the

552
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Speaker 1: extent of which the federal government was strong arming sites

553
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: like Twitter, you know, all the social media all the

554
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: big social media sites and Facebook and Twitter and what

555
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: have you, and they the extent to which the government

556
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: was doing that and really just violating the First Amendment

557
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: rights of everyone who used those platforms was astonishing. Do

558
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: you think that we know at this point the full

559
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: extent to which the government was exercising that sort of

560
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: power over these social media sites.

561
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Speaker 4: I don't think we'll ever fully fully know to be

562
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 4: because they were really working hand in hand with a

563
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 4: lot with a lot of these platforms, and even the

564
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 4: ones that are trying to, you know, pretend like, oh,

565
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 4: we were forced to.

566
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Speaker 1: I mean, they were really working working with them. And

567
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: now shocked when those revelations came out. Were you shocked

568
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Speaker 1: at the time when when you learned about that, Because

569
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Speaker 1: I know I was, and I had some some concept

570
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Speaker 1: that it was going on, but as extensive as it

571
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Speaker 1: was to me, was just it was just it was

572
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Speaker 1: a scandalous, Absolutely scandalous.

573
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Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, I wasn't shocked.

574
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Speaker 1: I kind of expected it to me.

575
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Speaker 4: What was more shocking was how brazen the government was

576
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Speaker 4: in forcing it, you know, the way that the way

577
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 4: that I always thought was that they kind of work

578
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 4: at hand in hand, where as before it was like

579
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Speaker 4: you're going to do this or else we're going to

580
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 4: go after you and destroy it like that was it

581
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 4: was a little you know, heavy handed there, you know

582
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Speaker 4: that to be with the shocking part.

583
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the government Leviathon exercising power and control

584
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: over the what really has turned into the public square

585
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: these days. So if I go to pick Acts and

586
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: I get an account there, your your promise to me

587
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: is that by and large, I'm going to be engaging

588
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: with real human beings. Absolutely. If you see if you

589
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: see a blue check mark, that means.

590
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Speaker 4: That that is a real life human being that we

591
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Speaker 4: that we have verified or we actually do not allow

592
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Speaker 4: unverified accounts to trend.

593
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: We don't allow unverified accounts to.

594
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Speaker 4: Be recommended, We don't allow unverified accounts to impact other

595
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Speaker 4: verified accounts be trending or being recommended as well.

596
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Speaker 1: And so basically, you.

597
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Speaker 4: Know, we encourage everybody to get verified, and you know

598
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Speaker 4: you're actually talking to a real human being. And if

599
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 4: there's no blue check mark, just assume, you know, it's

600
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Speaker 4: it's not real, it's the bot. Ignore them and just

601
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Speaker 4: focus focus.

602
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: On those blue check marks.

603
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Speaker 7: Is it?

604
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Speaker 1: Maybe some people want to want to have bots in

605
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Speaker 1: their life. Maybe some people find value in whatever the

606
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: the algorithm is is putting in their brain.

607
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there's there's plenty of platforms for people

608
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 4: like that out there. But what's really interesting is that

609
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 4: more and more people are getting fed up with social

610
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 4: media because they feel like they're A they're not connecting

611
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 4: with other people. B they're not connecting with the friends

612
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 4: and their family, and and C is that they feel

613
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 4: like they're in this constant state of fighting and arguing

614
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 4: without actually getting anywhere. Because you might fight with somebody

615
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 4: and then you'll never see them again, and then you've

616
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 4: got to fight with somebody else you'll never see them again.

617
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Speaker 3: As the boat actually.

618
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Speaker 4: Like, let's let's build a community of people and discussing

619
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Speaker 4: debate ideas with people that you're beginning to build a

620
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 4: relationship with.

621
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Speaker 1: Yeah, discussing debate ideas. I really think that's that's an

622
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: art form that is, uh, that is really being lost

623
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Speaker 1: in this country, and it's a shame. I got to

624
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: let you go here in about a minute or so,

625
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: but it give me give me a thumbnail of your

626
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: book about a Social injustice exposing the false gospel of

627
00:31:54,880 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: social the social justice movement. Give me a thumbnail. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

628
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: So so I basically we put out two books.

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Speaker 4: One was Social Injustice, one was Church and State. They're

630
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 4: kind of back to back sequels almost, and so Social

631
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Speaker 4: Injustice was really taking a look at the theological aspect

632
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Speaker 4: of the social justice movement and taking a look at

633
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Speaker 4: specifically what their beliefs are, and then proving beyond a

634
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Speaker 4: shadow of doubt that it is a false gospel of

635
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Speaker 4: what they're presenting, especially with what's happening in a lot

636
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 4: of evangelical churches of embracing social justice and all that

637
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 4: Church and State had been ended up being the sequel,

638
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 4: which was taking a look at the strategy that was

639
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 4: in play in order to hijack a lot of the

640
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 4: evangelical churches and seminaries in order to pump out these

641
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 4: social justice warrior pastors. And so it was kind of

642
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 4: like a one two punch with there were both group

643
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 4: book book projects that I organized and put together and

644
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 4: got basically experts in each field of topic that we

645
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 4: talked about, and so they're great resources for a lot

646
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 4: of people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just look at these things that comes under

648
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: the social justice umbrella and it's so much mumbo jumbo,

649
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: with so much nonsense. How did we get to the

650
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Speaker 1: point where these ideas and these concepts seem to be

651
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Speaker 1: ingrained in almost every aspect of our lives and every

652
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: aspect of government that we deal with these days.

653
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Speaker 4: It's been a slow build for about the last seventy years,

654
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 4: and it's very incremental, and I think that that's the thing.

655
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Speaker 4: We want to do things very quickly and very fast.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jeff Dornop, we got to run, But good

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Speaker 1: to fifty five Dan Carroll the Thursday night edition of

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Speaker 1: The Midweek Crisis on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 8: I'm making an effort to better myself. That's why I

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Speaker 1: I face the same problems you do, so let's talk

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Speaker 1: about him. And I have a little fun along the way.

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Speaker 8: Just like me, Sloaney is not afraid to get his

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Speaker 1: this is an important message. Seven hundred WLW ten oh seven,

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night edition of The mid Week Crisis. I'm Dan

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Speaker 1: Carroll brus Jackson running the big board of the seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW Command Center. One of the longest running guests,

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Speaker 1: maybe the longest running guests as a regular guest that

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Speaker 1: I've had on my shows here on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: Is my next guest and always great to welcome in.

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Speaker 1: Joe Hooft of joehoff dot com. He's an author formerly

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Speaker 1: of The Gateway Pundon. His brother runs that and just

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Speaker 1: a great friend of the show and Joe Hoff. So

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Speaker 1: many things you said that you texted me earlier today,

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Speaker 1: So there's so much stuff going on you couldn't wait

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Speaker 1: to be on tonight, and I always appreciate you being here, buddy.

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Speaker 3: How you been mat Thanks Dan?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, great being here. And I guess happy Easter weekend.

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Speaker 3: I guess tomorrow's good.

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Speaker 10: Friday already, absolutely, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The the is flying by, sure is already.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's going on every day like this lately, just

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Speaker 10: every day.

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Speaker 1: It is hard to keep up.

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Speaker 10: There's so much to talk about in not enough time.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it an absolute disgrace the way the Senate is

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Speaker 1: conducting itself when it comes to the Look, mid terms

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Speaker 1: are not that far away. I had on my show

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Speaker 1: back in the beginning of it was near the beginning

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Speaker 1: of February, and Alex Trantefilu, he's the state chairman of

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party here in Ohio, and I said, look,

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Speaker 1: we are running out of time. We have got to

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Save Act has got to be a priority.

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Speaker 1: We have got to clean up our elections. We have

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Speaker 1: got to make it hard to cheat, keep it easy

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Speaker 1: to vote, but make it hard to cheat. And he

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Speaker 1: was like, hey, wait, look, it's only February. We've got

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Speaker 1: plenty of time. Now it's beginning of April, and we

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Speaker 1: are no closer. Now, we might be farther away now

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Speaker 1: to getting serious legislation passed that is going to a

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Speaker 1: rest the problems we have with elections in this country.

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Speaker 1: And November is now all suddenly and not that far away.

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Speaker 10: You're right, and it's the most important thing we got

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Speaker 10: because because of these elections, because of the fraud, because

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Speaker 10: of the massive corruption in the elections, then you get

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Speaker 10: monsters in office, and then those monsters bring in monster judges,

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Speaker 10: and then pretty soon the whole system is infected with

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Speaker 10: the cancer of just monsters that have no respect for

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Speaker 10: the law for America. They hate America and they're here

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Speaker 10: to destroy it. And so we've got some major issues.

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Speaker 10: You know, I thought about this, Dan, maybe I mentioned

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Speaker 10: it last.

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Speaker 3: Time on the shelf.

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Speaker 10: To the media today is like, it's as if it

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Speaker 10: just hit.

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Speaker 5: Me one day.

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Speaker 10: You know, it's bad. We keep saying Trump knows it's bad.

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Speaker 10: He points it out every day since twenty sixteenth, since

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Speaker 10: before the election in twenty sixteenth. But it's gotten so

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Speaker 10: bad that it's as if the Nazi Nazis were running

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Speaker 10: our media in World War Two. It'd be the equivalent.

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Speaker 10: That's how bad it is. It's not on our side.

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Speaker 10: They hate America. They hate Americans and they want to

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Speaker 10: destroy this country. And I don't know who's behind it.

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Speaker 10: If it's you know, the World Economic Forum, China, you know,

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Speaker 10: maybe not Iran anymore. They're getting pretty well blown up.

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Speaker 10: Perhaps Russia. And you know, quite frankly, I think there's

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Speaker 10: a you know, a theory I have that maybe the

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Speaker 10: CIA was taken over years ago and maybe our own

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Speaker 10: CIA is working against us. And I'll tell you this,

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Speaker 10: this thought hit me too, and I didn't I jump

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Speaker 10: into this, but I just think the CIA has been

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Speaker 10: working inside this country for a long.

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Speaker 3: Period of time.

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Speaker 10: You know, we saw it with the Russia collusion, and

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Speaker 10: we're seeing it with other things. There was a piece

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Speaker 10: so yesterday it came out that there's this guy, this

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Speaker 10: young black man who's got like what aspergers or some

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Speaker 10: sort of really a mental issue. I think that's fair

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Speaker 10: to call it a mental issue. I'm not really sure,

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Speaker 10: but he's not functional really, And they indicted this guy

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Speaker 10: about a year ago for being the pipe bomber of

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Speaker 10: January sixth, and it was really significant. People don't realize this.

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Speaker 10: This is how they closed down the Capitol. They had

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Speaker 10: these pipe bombs planted the night before right around noonish,

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Speaker 10: they notify authorities that some pipe bombs have been found,

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Speaker 10: and then because of that they end up shutting down

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Speaker 10: the government. It was to me it was like their

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Speaker 10: secondary plan in case the riots didn't get out of

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Speaker 10: hand enough that they were creating, in my belief, then

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Speaker 10: they would bring in the pipe barmber. So ultimately the

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Speaker 10: pipe bomber, the pipe bombs were the reason why they

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Speaker 10: shut down the camp after that day. And what that

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Speaker 10: did then is it allowed Pelosi to take over the

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Speaker 10: government later that evening did the rules in the in Congress,

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Speaker 10: it was removed from Pence. She came in that evening,

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Speaker 10: immediately voted on Joe Biden. He became president. There was

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Speaker 10: no arguments, no more discussions. Nobody was able to raise

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Speaker 10: issues with the election, of which there was at least

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Speaker 10: six states as you know, that had major issues. None

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Speaker 10: of that was able to be to be raised that

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Speaker 10: night because Pelosi took over the took over the entire

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Speaker 10: events and ended up.

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Speaker 3: You know, pushing through Joe Biden.

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Speaker 10: Had we had a certifiable election, as you know, I've

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Speaker 10: written about in these books about the twenty twenty election,

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Speaker 10: three books called The Steel by Joe hope you can

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Speaker 10: get him out there at Amazon or go to Joehawk

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Speaker 10: dot com.

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Speaker 3: You can get him there.

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Speaker 10: And I've had him consolidated into a major book. I've

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Speaker 10: had him consolidated into a book in Italy and Italian.

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Speaker 10: So I was all over this based on my background, Dan,

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Speaker 10: as you know, and you're at a number of times

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Speaker 10: my backgrounds in corporate America and actually internationally. I was

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Speaker 10: head of a large, multi billion dollar block business in

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Speaker 10: Hong Kong at one time and led the audit and

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Speaker 10: the function and the finance teams over the huge block

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Speaker 10: of business. So I knew a lot about auditing. When

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Speaker 10: I came back in twenty twenty and started seeing what

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Speaker 10: was going on, I was like, this is ridiculous. None

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Speaker 10: of this is certifiable, and that's what we're fighting against

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Speaker 10: it ever since then. But we've been fighting it. We've

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Speaker 10: been fighting the media, which is this information war, where

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Speaker 10: we've been fighting countries abroad.

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Speaker 3: We've been then Joe.

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Speaker 10: Biden, Biden comes in and opens up the border for anybody,

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Speaker 10: which is absolutely I think crimes criminal act, and we

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Speaker 10: don't know how many people are hear in this country.

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Speaker 10: Still Trump tried to get rid of them and then

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Speaker 10: the left fights Ice and they make up stories about Ice,

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Speaker 10: and they try to prevent us from removing these monsters

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Speaker 10: from within our country that we don't even know who

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Speaker 10: they are, you know, gangs and god knows what else.

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Speaker 10: And so it's been an attack on America like we've

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Speaker 10: never seen before.

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Speaker 1: You know, Joe was going on, I'm glad, I'm glad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up too, Because when I

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Speaker 1: look at the pipe bomber story, when I look at

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Speaker 1: what happened on January sixth, when I look at things

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Speaker 1: like you know, there's been really a guy like Anthony

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Speaker 1: Fauci has not been brought to justice for what he did.

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Speaker 1: When I look at what is happening with organizations like Antifa,

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Speaker 1: when when we still have all these questions out there,

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Speaker 1: and we were told during the election that we were

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Speaker 1: going to get to the bottom of all of this stuff,

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Speaker 1: get it off the books, get it cleaned up, people

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Speaker 1: were going to be held accountable. Is the only thing

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised about is that Pam Bondi lasted as long

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Speaker 1: as she did. To my way of thinking, all this

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Speaker 1: stuff is under her purview. She could have pulled the strings,

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Speaker 1: called the shots, got the ball rolling on all of them,

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Speaker 1: these things, and got these things at least to where

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Speaker 1: we were going to have, you know, some some reconciliation

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Speaker 1: on this, but we but there's been no reckoning on

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Speaker 1: any of this stuff. So it's no surprise to me

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Speaker 1: that Trump finally fired her and said see you later,

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Speaker 1: because I think, especially when it comes to Trump's cabinet members,

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Speaker 1: he wants people. He gives them all the freedom that

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Speaker 1: they need to do their job. He is not going

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Speaker 1: to sit there and hold your hand and micromanage and

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Speaker 1: approve every single decision. You are supposed to go out there.

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Speaker 1: You are supposed to get a job done, and if

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Speaker 1: you don't do it, you're going to be fired. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's what we saw happen to Pam Bondi today.

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Speaker 1: And she she shouldn't have been around as long as

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Speaker 1: she did because we still there are still so many

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Speaker 1: questions that we don't have answers to, and it's a

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Speaker 1: it's an absolute disgrace. And you know, Trump's over a

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Speaker 1: year now, a year and what two or three months

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Speaker 1: into his second term, and the clock is ticking on

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Speaker 1: this and if we don't get it during this administration.

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Speaker 1: We may never get the answer to some of this stuff.

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Speaker 10: That's right, and that's right. That's why this stuff's all

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Speaker 10: so important. And you know I brought up the Pie Farmer.

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Speaker 10: What we find out yesterday is that there was this

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Speaker 10: lady that was brought up a year ago. They said

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Speaker 10: this lady was at the Capitol. They believe it Pie

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00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 10: Farmer based on the way she walks. They did a

874
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 10: gate analysis. This is her and she was at the

875
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 10: Capitol also that day of the of January sixth. Where

876
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 10: she was she was shoot She was firing on Americans

877
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 10: with Robbert bullets from up above. She fired on one

878
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 10: guy like thirty times. She's targeting the guy in the crowd.

879
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 10: These guys weren't and these were Americans who were standing there.

880
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 10: There was nothing they were doing wrong until he started

881
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 10: getting fired on and they had to grab shields and

882
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 10: try to protect themselves. There's guys got that was.

883
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 3: This girl.

884
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: The question is why why is only this part being

885
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: exposed now? Why wasn't this exposed years ago? I mean,

886
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 1: for god, so it is, I mean right ahead.

887
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 10: Damn what happened? Then they they identify her, some guys

888
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 10: identify her, not not from the FBI, from some reporter

889
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 10: of the journalists. Actually this guy who was January sixth

890
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 10: or himself, he was there as a reporter and he

891
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 10: got he got arrested and he got indicted.

892
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 3: Not some of these other guys, but he did.

893
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 10: And so then he discovers this, he writes about it,

894
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 10: We write about it, and then immediately say, no, you're wrong.

895
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 10: And the thing about this girl, she left it. She

896
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 10: left supposedly the Capitol Police to work for the CIA.

897
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 10: I would question if she was part of the CIA before.

898
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 10: But then they come up with this black guy who's uh,

899
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 10: you know, not really functional. They bring him in for

900
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 10: two hours and they dive him and say, this is

901
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 10: the pipewarmer we had to hold it from for four

902
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 10: years and he bought some stuff like a year before

903
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 10: January sixth that was using these pipe bombs, so it

904
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 10: must be him.

905
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: And we're like, what are you doing? What's going on here?

906
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 10: We had Bondi and then Bongino and Cash Teloff standing

907
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 10: up there on stage proud to announce this. The major

908
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 10: flaw though, was that the ladies that they assigned at

909
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 10: the DOJ to run this thing the same lady as

910
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 10: January sixth for Biden, same lady, the targeted General Flynn.

911
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 3: So what's going on?

912
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 10: How come Bondie and Bongino and Cash didn't know this?

913
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 10: So then today finally you know, Bondi is gone and

914
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 10: you know about time. But you know, I guess my

915
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 10: solace is I thought through this, and I'm like, well,

916
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 10: the main thing is we got to win the election.

917
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 10: Because we don't win this election, then we're screwed. If

918
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 10: we win it, we've got two more years perhaps where

919
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 10: somebody could freaking bring some justice to this country. But

920
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 10: without that, we're done. It's this election is over and

921
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 10: these monsters come in, people that steal the elections. How

922
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 10: do you here's the questions, and we don't know.

923
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 3: How to do it.

924
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 10: How do you deal with people that are in the

925
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 10: legislature that have that have or judges that have been

926
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 10: appointed by people in the legislature that stole their elections

927
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 10: to find office.

928
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 3: How do you deal with that?

929
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 10: Well, the main that you've got to get rid of them,

930
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 10: and that is something we don't know how to do.

931
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 3: There's nothing in.

932
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 10: The constitution to say how here's how you deal with

933
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 10: somebody who stole their election, snuck in there and it's

934
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 10: destroying this country, along with another two hundred or so

935
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 10: Democrats and another one hundred or so Rhinos, which are

936
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 10: lying in staying people that say they're a Republican but

937
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 10: they're really not. They're Democrats because they know they can't

938
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 10: win under the under the Democrat strategy or party or

939
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 10: whatever they're whatever they want to do other than destroy America,

940
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 10: and they run as Republicans. So we've got to win

941
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 10: the election and then we can fix this stuff. But

942
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 10: you know, and you start off with that too, it's

943
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 10: like a lot of work on that.

944
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 3: Trump.

945
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 10: Then it seems like Trump's doing everything on his own.

946
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 10: Came up with this executive order. I had talked to

947
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 10: one guy today from California. He says, you know, we've

948
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 10: got the absentee ballots still, they're still in there, and

949
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 10: we need to get rid of them in California especially.

950
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 3: And he's right.

951
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 10: But I talked to another guy who wrote a piece,

952
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 10: David Clements.

953
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 3: He's in attorney.

954
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 10: He's been looking at this election and integ your stuff

955
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 10: with sometime friend of mine, and he said, you know what,

956
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 10: I think this is pretty good because what he did

957
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 10: with this executive order, this recent one is we're going

958
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 10: to clean up the voter rolls. We're going to provide

959
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 10: voter rolls to the states so we know that they're legit,

960
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 10: and then we're going to force them when they send

961
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 10: out mail in ballots that they use a certain type

962
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 10: of envelope so when these come in, it identified the

963
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 10: ballot that was in them, and we're not going to

964
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 10: have a bunch of extra ballots. So that's the theory.

965
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 10: We'll see if it works, but it's better than what

966
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 10: we did have. And President Trump's doing all he can

967
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 10: by himself in a lot of cases in the in

968
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 10: this arena.

969
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 3: To get this stuff fixed because, like you said.

970
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 10: Too soon the monsters people that got into these roles,

971
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 10: learning about who they were and what they stood for, they're.

972
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 3: Not helping us. They're against us. And so yeah, we

973
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 3: got a lot of work to do. It's it's your

974
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 3: you know.

975
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 10: But Dan, I tell you what, I think. I've shared

976
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 10: this before too.

977
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 3: I think I think we're winning, namely Trump's in office.

978
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope you're right about that, because I look,

979
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: I just saw I just saw Chuck Schumer on with CNN,

980
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 1: and he's doubling down on the notion that shutting down

981
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: the TSA, shutting down Homeland Security, it was, it was

982
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: part of the plan all along. He seems confident now

983
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: that when the midterm elections come around that the House

984
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: in the Senate is going to be back in control

985
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: of the Democrats. Nancy Pelosi is out there. I've seen

986
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: interviews that she's done recently. She's taught talking about the

987
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: plans they've already got for the next impeachment. And when

988
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: it comes to when it comes to the Trump agenda,

989
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: if Republicans don't win the day and control the House

990
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: and the Senate, the Trump agenda is dead in the water,

991
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: and this stuff is going to be buried. And look,

992
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: it just it's unbelievable. We just keep We thought we

993
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: had an idea how of how widespread and deep the

994
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: swamp was in Washington. But every time it seems like

995
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: you make a little progress, you'll find out just how

996
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: much bigger it is.

997
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, you're right, and we saw it to this last election.

998
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 10: No Trump won in a landslide, and then all of

999
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 10: a sudden we were wayheading the House in the Senate,

1000
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 10: and all of a sudden, the sets, one by one

1001
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 10: get dropped and pretty soon. It's just a slim margin.

1002
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 10: And the GOP did nothing, and I believe it was

1003
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 10: all planned that way, but some of the candidates were

1004
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 10: garbage anyway.

1005
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: But anyways, that can't happen this time.

1006
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 10: We're gonna have to fight for every single seat. And

1007
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 10: you know, the GOP, the Rhinos and the gopr are

1008
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 10: a major problem. We're going to have to figure out

1009
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 10: a way to get rid of these monsters, to vet

1010
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 10: them better. Because we get these people and all of

1011
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 10: a sudden, they shine, they raise their hands, say no,

1012
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 10: I'm over here. I'm actually a skunk and I tricked you.

1013
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 10: You know, for this period of time, we've got to

1014
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,919
Speaker 10: figure out a better way to identify those people and

1015
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 10: not got to get them in office. The media wear though,

1016
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 10: that's so important, and they that's why they hate us

1017
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 10: at the Gayway, pont It or Joehawk dot com or

1018
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 10: you guys, anybody sharing the truth. They hate and they

1019
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 10: want to take you down. They want to harm you

1020
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 10: and any way they can. And but we're winning and

1021
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 10: that's why they want to do it. Because sixty two

1022
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 10: after the twenty twenty election, sixty two percent of all

1023
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 10: Americans so that they believe the election was stolen one

1024
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 10: year after the election, despite constant reiteration from this massive, corrupt,

1025
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 10: disgusting line media that Trump tried to steal the election

1026
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 10: and that that he was the culprit sick two thirds

1027
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 10: of America basically believed know that was a lie, that

1028
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 10: Trump had the election stolen, and that another sixty two

1029
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 10: sixty six percent actually believed that January sixth was a setup.

1030
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 10: That's a year after the election, after the media is

1031
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 10: pushing this thing left and right, putting it on primetime

1032
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 10: that January sixty sixth, it was all a lie.

1033
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 3: And we're finding out more and.

1034
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 10: More it's all lie. And you know, and so you know,

1035
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 10: the Americans don't they know from places.

1036
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 2: Like this, but I think they should.

1037
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: It should have all been exposed years ago. And and

1038
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: we still we still haven't scratched surface on this. And

1039
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: to my way of thinking, that lays right at the

1040
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: doorstep of Pam Bondies. I say, good riddance, uh, Joe Hoffin, Yeah,

1041
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: we got to run as always, my friend, The time

1042
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: flies right by whenever you're on If people want to

1043
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: find out more about you and your books, where do

1044
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: they do that?

1045
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1046
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, I go to Joehoff dot com. Appreciate it and

1047
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 10: get some books and read them, share them if you're

1048
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 10: in if you speak Italian, you can get them in Italian.

1049
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: That is outstanding. Joe Hoff, you're the best man. Keep

1050
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: up the great work and we'll talk again soon. My friend.

1051
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

1052
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 3: Dance, take care of Happy Easter.

1053
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: Happy Easter, Happy Easter. There there's Joe Hoff right there.

1054
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: Ten twenty six phone lines are open after this between

1055
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: now and eleven o'clock. Five to one, three, seven four nine,

1056
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: seven thousand, one, eight hundred, The Big One, as we

1057
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 1: roll on on the Thursday night edition of The Midweek

1058
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: Crisis on seven hundred WLW on the Thursday night edition

1059
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Speaker 1: of The Midweek Crisis five one three seven, seven thousand, one,

1060
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: eight hundred, The Big One. You know, when I was

1061
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: a kid, my parents were subscribers to Life magazine, so

1062
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: we always had Life Magazine around the house, and I

1063
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: would spend hours staring at the pictures. And I remember

1064
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: back I mean, I mean a little kid. I was

1065
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: a little kid in those days of the Apollo, the

1066
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 1: Gemini missions and the Apollo missions, and I didn't remember

1067
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: doing everything I could back then to follow what was

1068
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: happening with man going into space, and I remember my

1069
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: parents had a copy of Life magazine and I saw

1070
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 1: the pictures of Ed White, the first American to perform

1071
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: a spacewalk, and I remember thinking, and I still think

1072
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: of today, that it was just one of the most

1073
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: mind blowing coolest pictures I had ever seen, was Ed

1074
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: White out there in space, weightlessness, floating above the Earth,

1075
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: and you could see the Earth in the background of

1076
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: a lot of those shots. And as a kid, that's

1077
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: when my fascination with the space program began looking at

1078
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: Life magazine, and as a little kid, I was up

1079
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: on that July night when Neil Armstrong first stepped on

1080
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: the Moon. And I actually got to meet Neil Armstrong

1081
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: once at a golf outing that I was at. Bill

1082
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: Cunningham tells a similar story. He was at a golf event,

1083
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: walked in and there was Neil Armstrong sitting over there

1084
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: by himself, having a sandwich before the event started. The

1085
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: story that I've got about Neil Armstrong very similar to that,

1086
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: word got around Neil Armstrong is here, really, where's he at?

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Speaker 1: And there he was just sitting at the table, minding

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Speaker 1: his own business. And I walked up to him and

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Speaker 1: got to meet him. One of the greatest milestones of

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Speaker 1: my career as a newsperson was getting a chance to

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Speaker 1: have a sit down and interview with Jim Lovell when

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Speaker 1: his book came out called Lost Moon, and we talked

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Speaker 1: and I had a photographer back then, his name was

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Speaker 1: Dave Smith. I worked quite a bit with him at

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Speaker 1: Fox nineteen and Dave Smith and I read the book,

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Speaker 1: and he was a space enthusiast Apollo mission enthusiasts, just

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Speaker 1: like I was. And we read everything we could about

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Speaker 1: Jim Lovell, and we read his book and read about

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Speaker 1: Apollo thirteen, read about the Moon missions, and we had

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Speaker 1: a debate and we knew that when Neil Armstrong took

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00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: over command of the lunar module and was making his

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00:56:55,480 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: descent onto the lunar surface back then, the story is

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00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: the landing. The designated landing area where they were going

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00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 1: to touch down was covered with boulders, I mean boulders

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00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: the size of volkswagens, big boulders, and Neil Armstrong observed

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00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: this and he knew that they could not land there,

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00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: so he took over manual control of the lunar module

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00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: and began guiding the module above the surface of the

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00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: Moon looking for a clear place to land, and so

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00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: buzz Aldron is there and he's watching the fuel and

1111
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: calling out to Neil Armstrong about how much time they

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00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: had left before they ran out of fuel. And I

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00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: believe they sat down with about fifteen seconds worth of

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00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: fuel left on the lunar module. I mean, it's one

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Speaker 1: of the most arrowing stories about America's adventures in space

1116
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: that you will ever read and think about. That something

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00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: goes wrong, that's it, it's over. You don't come back

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Speaker 1: from those kind of mistakes. But Neil Armstrong did it

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00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: as one of the greatest Americans to ever draw breath.

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Speaker 1: And now we're in at a time when we have

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Speaker 1: the Artemis two flight that is on its way to

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00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: the Moon, and earlier tonight, the mission management team and

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Speaker 1: NASA has a way. All you have to do is

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00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: just just google NASA and it will take it to

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00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: their website and you can read live mission updates on

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00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: what is happening with Artemis two. And the mission management

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00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: team pulled go earlier tonight and the Orion spacecraft fired

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Speaker 1: its main engine for five minutes and fifty seconds beginning

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00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: at seven forty nine pm Eastern time to successfully complete

1130
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: the translunar injection that is sending the crew in Orion.

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00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: There are oreon i should say, out of Earth orbit

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Speaker 1: and on a trajectory towards the Moon. The main engine

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00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: provides up to six thousand pounds of thrust, enough to

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00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: accelerate a car from zero to sixty in about two

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00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: point seven seconds. At the time of the burn, Orion's

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00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: mass was fifty eight thousand pounds, and they burned approximately

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Speaker 1: one thousand pounds of fuel during the firing. So the

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Speaker 1: crew members are in there, they're doing some exercises, and

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00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: they talk about the flywheel exercise device they have on

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00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: board to battle the effects of weightlessness. And I could

1141
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: go on, I could read this stuff, and I'll probably

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00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: when I get out of here tonight, I'll probably go

1143
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: home and dial this up and read all the stuff

1144
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: that I haven't read yet about the mission to orbit

1145
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: the Moon. And one of the things I found interesting

1146
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 1: was that they are now working on a lunar targeting plan,

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01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: a guide to what the crew will look at on

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01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: the Moon's surface during it's approximately six hour observation on Monday,

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01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: so they'll be orbiting the Moon on Monday, and they're

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Speaker 1: going to have a six hour observation period. I would

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01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: have thought they would have had all that planned out

1152
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: by now, but apparently that plan is in the works,

1153
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: So they didn't plan everything ahead of time. And some

1154
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: of the stuff that they're doing by the seat of

1155
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: their pants, which you got to have. You got to

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Speaker 1: give them credit. I'm sure they know exactly what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Jim and Amelia. He's been on hold

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Speaker 1: for a little while. And Jim, are you excited about

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Speaker 1: the current mission to get back to the Moon.

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Speaker 11: Yes, yesterday and taking my call. But why your father

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01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 11: was flying back to the F four's and Vietnam in nineteen sixty.

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Speaker 1: Eight, God bless.

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Speaker 11: Them when Apollo Waight went around the moon.

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Speaker 1: How about this?

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Speaker 11: It's like Artemis is right now on. You know, it

1166
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 11: was like, you know, Christmas Eve or something.

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Speaker 1: Follow Your father was flying F fours back in nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixty eight. Yes, did he apply he applied for the

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Speaker 1: astronaut program.

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Speaker 11: No, he was just dropping bombs on people. Okay, But

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Speaker 11: I'm just saying when he when he my dad was

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Speaker 11: gone that you know that that Christmas Eve when the

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Speaker 11: Pollo wait around, went around the moon and they you know,

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Speaker 11: they did the Genesis thing. This was this is like

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Speaker 11: very good memories.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, we we were both kids when

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Speaker 1: all that was going on, and I was fascinated by

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Speaker 1: that stuff. And thank god, thank god my parents has

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01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: had Life magazine back then, because it was just chock

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Speaker 1: full and Life did a great job of documenting the

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Speaker 1: space program and it was just chock full of all

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Speaker 1: kinds of pictures and information and I read, I read

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Speaker 1: every single word of it.

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Speaker 11: Those are the big Delight magazine that was so big

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Speaker 11: when it put it on the coffee table.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's big magazine, sure, absolutely, Yeah.

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Speaker 11: But I just remember my dad being gone in Vietnam

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Speaker 11: and watching that Paulo Way going around the Mirdham Christmas

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Speaker 11: Eve at sixty eight, and that's what it reminds me of.

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Speaker 11: So thanks Dan, Well.

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Speaker 1: God bless him, Jim, thank you very much for the call.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate that. Let's go to It looks like Mark

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Speaker 1: in Monroe is next, and then we've got Tom on

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Speaker 1: the west side. Mark seven hundred.

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Speaker 6: Ww Hey, Dan, I just wanted to come in on

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Speaker 6: your guest. I just say so. Yeah, he was so

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Speaker 6: spy on with the the whole paying binding assessment. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: you know, over the over the year. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 6: it kind of started out with the whole uh Barack

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01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 6: Obama treason thing. Uh, you know, they went by the wayside, James.

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Speaker 1: You know, why is there no reckoning on any of that.

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01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: I mean, that makes what what Obama did with Joe

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01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: Biden in attendance, what he did when it came to

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01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: spying on the Trump campaign and when it continued to

1206
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: monitor the activities of Trump and his associates even after

1207
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 1: he was elected, makes Watergate look like a picnic, makes

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Speaker 1: it look like absolute child's play. This is a scandal

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01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: that that far outweighs whatever was done during Watergate. And

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Speaker 1: of course our media has no curiosity about it, they

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Speaker 1: have no intention to dig into it. But to my

1212
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Speaker 1: way of thinking, this is something that was under the

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Speaker 1: purview of Pam Bondi and she just let it sit there.

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, think of how much lost time there is.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, by rights, Jase six and the

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01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 6: Biden's auto pen should have blown the left out of

1217
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 6: the water by now. I mean, uh, there's so much

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Speaker 6: lost time and lost ground in this whole scenario. Yeah,

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01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,439
Speaker 6: and again, like you already mentioned the uh the mid

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Speaker 6: terms of if we lose that ground, I mean, we're

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01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 6: back to the whole impeachment thing again. And uh, we're

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Speaker 6: you know, we're just walloween and the mere getting nowhere fast.

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Speaker 1: That's what Nancy Pelosi said the other day that they

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01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: they've are. This is how far ahead of the curve

1225
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: the Democrats are. The moment if the if the Democrats

1226
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: get back in control of the House, the moment that happens,

1227
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: impeachment proceedings are going to start and we're going to

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01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 1: go through all this clown show yet again, absolutely unb

1229
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: leave them.

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Speaker 6: Well her and Schumer are you know the damn or

1231
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 6: should say that damn duo when behind the scenes in

1232
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Speaker 6: most of this stuff. And you know, I hate to

1233
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 6: give corredit where Krets do, but they keep they have

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01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 6: a way of keep pulling pulling it off.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're absolutely ruthless and they don't care. And that's

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01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: that's the way you have to be. And and with

1237
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: Republicans in charge, Republicans have yet to learn that lesson

1238
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: that you have when you have the power, you have

1239
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: to be absolutely ruthless with it. And you have to

1240
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: press your advantage to the max because if you don't,

1241
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: if you give even the slightest opening to especially this

1242
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: group of Democrats that's up there on Capitol Hill, they're

1243
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Speaker 1: going to make you pay for it, much to your regret.

1244
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: And Mark, thank you very much for that call. Let's

1245
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 1: go to the west side and say hello to Tom.

1246
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,439
Speaker 1: Tom you're on seven hundred WLW. We got about two.

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Speaker 2: Minutes that would be me.

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01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 12: I listened to Joe Hoff and I had three questions

1249
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 12: I'd like to ask you.

1250
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh, one.

1251
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 12: Was concerning of twenty twenty fraudulent elections? How many how

1252
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 12: many cases did the Trump backers bring up against that

1253
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 12: said it was a fraudulent the election?

1254
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 3: How many cases were that in court? Wasn't that like sixty?

1255
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was, there was a lot of case. There

1256
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: was a lot of cases that were brought. There was

1257
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: a lot of cases that were dismissed. But go to Joe.

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Speaker 5: Hoff howd on how many did they win?

1259
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: Hold on how many did they win? Who did it?

1260
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: Went Annie, But go to go to sa and some

1261
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 1: of the cases are actually still going on. Go to

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Speaker 1: Joehoff dot com. He's got three books on the subject.

1263
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: And you can and you can read his books and

1264
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 1: then you can get his point of view on those subjects.

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Speaker 3: My understanding was there was an Okay, let's go to

1266
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 3: the second one.

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Speaker 12: Uh, you mentioned rhinos, which I think doesn't that mean

1268
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 12: Republicans in name only?

1269
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: Rhino r I n O Republican in name only?

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01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 3: Great? Is are there any rhinos that do not back

1271
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Speaker 3: President Trump?

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01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: Well? Mostly if you are a Rhino, then you you

1273
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 1: might say you backed Trump President Trump, but when it

1274
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: comes to action, when it comes to demonstrating that support,

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01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: you tend not to do that.

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Speaker 3: So you're saying that rhinos do not support President Trump.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, That's what I'm saying about. Yeah, I'm saying that.

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Speaker 1: Why do you ask that?

1279
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 12: Okay, that's good, Okay that I just wanted to clarify that.

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Speaker 12: And the third one was concerned Pam Bondy.

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Speaker 3: She got fired today?

1282
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1283
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 3: Was she fired because she didn't release the Epstein files.

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01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure that had something. I'm sure. I'm not I

1285
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: don't want to say she got fired because she didn't

1286
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: release it, but I'm sure the way she handled the

1287
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: rollout of files has something to do with it.

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01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 3: She was she was given a directive by President Trump

1289
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 3: to release the files on a certain date in December,

1290
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 3: and they're not yet released. I want to President.

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01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: Trump, there's been a lot of stuff released, there's been

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01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of stuff released. Us all as

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01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 1: all been released. I don't know, but I don't think

1294
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 1: she handled I think she handled the rollout of the

1295
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 1: Epstein files very very poor.

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Speaker 12: A lot of it has been redacted and plus has

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01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 12: at least three million more pages and they haven't been

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Speaker 12: released yet. So if she hasn't released the files, is

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Speaker 12: it because.

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Speaker 3: President Trump is upset with her that she got fired.

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Speaker 1: No, President Trump's he fired her. He's not upset. She

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Speaker 1: didn't she didn't do her job. She did her job,

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Speaker 1: her job.

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Speaker 3: Job and relationship to the Epstein files.

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Speaker 1: Well, the Epstein files was only one of multiple issues

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Speaker 1: that she should have handled, and she didn't do a

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Speaker 1: very good job at any And with that we got

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Speaker 1: to run ten fifty five, seven hundred WLW seven hundred

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Speaker 1: WLW eleven O nine switching gears yet again on this

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Speaker 1: Thursday night edition of the Midweek Crisis. About ten days ago,

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Speaker 1: I said an article to my buddy Steve Oldfield, and

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Speaker 1: the piece was entitled Hollywood is eating itself alive and

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Speaker 1: you should care. And one of the things I talk

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Speaker 1: about from time to time on this program is I

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01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: don't talk a lot about the entertainment of this industry.

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Speaker 1: I don't talk a lot about the movies, but when

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Speaker 1: the subject comes up, I love to have on my

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Speaker 1: buddy Steve Oldfield because I used to work with him

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Speaker 1: at Fox nineteen. He was a movie critic back then.

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01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 1: Now he makes his own documentaries and teaches about media

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Speaker 1: and things like that over at Thomas Moore University and

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Speaker 1: Steve Oldfield, it's great to have you back on seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 7: You know, usually the one who's assigning people articles to read,

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Speaker 7: and you did this to me. You said you're the

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Speaker 7: teacher and I'm the student here. This was a heck

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Speaker 7: of an article and I think everybody who follows the

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Speaker 7: media should read it. And all I can to say

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Speaker 7: is I've seen this developing and boiling over for probably

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Speaker 7: the last fifteen years or so, and it's just.

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Speaker 3: Gotten worse and worse. And you know, I didn't.

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Speaker 7: Watch I watched twenty seconds of the Oscars Dan and

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01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 7: I turned it on and Harvey Javier Bardem was wearing

1335
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 7: this crazy homemade button about the war and started saying

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01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 7: all this crazy stuff about Iran and I went click

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01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 7: and I turned.

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Speaker 3: It off right away.

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01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 7: And I realized, I'm glad I was a film critic

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01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 7: when I was, because now they would have thrown me

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01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 7: out a long time ago, because you know, my politics

1342
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 7: are so different. And they started excluding Fox people. I

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01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 7: worked for a lot of Fox stations, and when I

1344
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 7: was just easing out of it, I'll never forget it.

1345
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 7: Bet Middler's people came to me and they said, we

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01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 7: know you've interviewed her five times before. She likes you

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01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 7: a lot, but she's not talking to Fox people love

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01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 7: and same with Susan Sarandon and with Tim Robbins. And

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01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 7: I don't even know if i'd get interviews today. And yeah,

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01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 7: they've all lost their minds, is all you can say.

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01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 7: And there's such hatefulness. They're the party of hate, the

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01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 7: Democrats are, and the Hollywood people are leading the way.

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Speaker 7: They're the ones who are all part of the No

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01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 7: King's protest and everything else, so they're never going to learn.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Hollywood has serious financial issues right now, and the

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Speaker 1: vast majority of them are really self inflicted. I think

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Speaker 1: some of it. You can chalk up to the changing

1358
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: landscape with all the streaming services and people opting to

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Speaker 1: watch movies at home and what happened during the Wuhan

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01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: and all that. But I still think that it's just

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Speaker 1: it's such a shame that we are losing that generational

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01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: and almost universal love that Americans used to have for

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Speaker 1: American cinema. And I think it really it's it's just

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01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: a shame that that's happening. And I think something that

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01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 1: ties into it. Steve Oldfield and I was talking about

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01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,719
Speaker 1: this during the last segment, is that and of course,

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Speaker 1: you know, we've got these astronauts on the way to

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01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: circle the moon right now. And I was reminiscing about

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01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 1: when I was a kid and my parents always had

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Speaker 1: Life magazine around the house, and Life magazine had extensive

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Speaker 1: coverage of NASA and the space race, and there was always,

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Speaker 1: i mean, the extensive coverage of Mercury, of Gemini, of Apollo,

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01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: and the magazine was just chalk full of photo after

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Speaker 1: photo and story after story of the astronauts and how

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01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 1: it all worked and what NASA was doing. And look

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01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 1: at these amazing buildings and look at these amazing rockets.

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Speaker 1: And all the technology that went with it. And I

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01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 1: just remember spending hours sitting there on the floor of

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Speaker 1: our home and leafing through Life magazine after Life magazine,

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Speaker 1: and then going back to the older ones and looking

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Speaker 1: at those over and over and over again. And I

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Speaker 1: think that was a shared experience that I had with

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Speaker 1: a lot of people who are the same ages as

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Speaker 1: you and I, and I would imagine you might have

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01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 1: had a similar experience, And so I sort of think

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01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: that's on the same wavelength as how this country back in,

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Speaker 1: you know, going all the way, you know, when even

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Speaker 1: when talkie started, when we had those great movies in

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Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties and forties and all the way up

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Speaker 1: through the seventies, that we all had those same sort

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01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: of shared experiences around cinema and huge movies back in

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01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 1: the day, and all that is being lost now, and

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01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: it's it really maybe it didn't have to happen this way.

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Speaker 7: And I'll tell you when it really started for me,

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01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 7: when I first started noticing it. You talk about a

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01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 7: shared experience. There is a movie that I think is

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Speaker 7: one of the greatest movies ever made. It was a

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Speaker 7: Steven Spielberg film, and it was about saving Private Ryan.

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Speaker 7: You remember that film. Everybody saw it. Guys loved it,

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01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 7: women loved it. Everybody was in it, from Tom Hanks

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01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 7: and Matt Damon on down, and everybody tuned into the Oscars.

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Speaker 7: In fact, I was invited to the Saving Private Ryan

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01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 7: Oscar party with this girl who took me as her date.

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01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 7: And I was all excited. I thought, this is going

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01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 7: to be an awesome evening.

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01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 3: And what happened.

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01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 7: Harvey Weinstein, who's now in jail for all the horrible

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01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 7: stuff you did to women in Hollywood, he bought the

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01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 7: Oscar that year. They thought it would be better to

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01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 7: give it to Shakespeare in Love, a film that made

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01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 7: you know, a tenth of the money that people can

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01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 7: share us about that one best picture, instead of Saving

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01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 7: Private Ryan and that Oscar party. Dan was like a wake.

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01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 7: Spielberg was walking around shaking his head. I've never seen

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01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 7: him look sad in his life, and he looked embarrassed

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01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 7: and sad, and we were all and all the viewers

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01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 7: who turned tuned in expecting to see the movie that

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Speaker 7: they had watched win the Oscar, and and it didn't win.

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01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 7: And a lot of times movies today, there was a

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01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 7: great war movie three years ago that a buddy of

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01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 7: mine dead, Rod Lorrie. It was called The Outpost and

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01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 7: it was about Afghanistan.

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Speaker 1: I saw that movie. That's really really.

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Speaker 7: Good, brilliant film. Scott Eastwood, Clint Eastwood's son is in it,

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01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 7: Orlando Bloom, heck of a cast, true story about all

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01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 7: these Medal of Honor winners in this amazing, amazing, heartfelt movie.

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Speaker 7: The only Oscar nomination it got was for the song,

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01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 7: and it was because Diane Warren did this really really

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01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 7: depressing song and that got a nomination. But again, all

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Speaker 7: you know, if you if you see two or three

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01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 7: movies at the box office a year and you think

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01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 7: this one's great, and then you look at you watch

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01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 7: the Oscars and it doesn't even show up. There's that

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01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 7: disconnect between the Hollywood bubble and everybody else, and they

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01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 7: alienated all of us at one point or another because

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01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 7: we thought this is a great movie and then it

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01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 7: doesn't get any recognition. That's why the Oscar ratings were

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01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 7: down nine percent this year. They keep dropping and pretty

1439
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 7: soon the Oscars are going to end up just being

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01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 7: on YouTube or something. Networks aren't going to want to

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01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 7: carry them because they're a money pit.

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01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 1: Sure, and they look at those ratings and I'm sure

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01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 1: they complain to someone when the numbers come in the

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01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: way they do. And these advertisers, they won't bang for

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01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 1: their buck, and there's no way they can be getting

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01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 1: it with numbers like that. But this piece also goes

1447
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: on to talk about total shoot days in Los Angeles. Yes,

1448
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: went down twenty four percent, So in twenty twenty two

1449
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: they had a total of thirty seven thousand shoot days

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01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,679
Speaker 1: and then in twenty twenty five it went down from

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01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 1: thirty seven and twenty twenty two to less than twenty

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01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 1: thousand in twenty twenty five. That is a huge drop off.

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01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: And they lost forty one thousand entertainment jobs in that

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01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 1: same period of time. And even for a city as

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01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 1: big as Los Angeles, when you cut out forty one

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01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 1: thousand jobs in one particular industry, that's a pretty big number.

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01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 3: And we, you know, we always have to remember.

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Speaker 7: A lot of those jobs are regular family people who

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01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 7: are craftsmen who work on these films, who are trying

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01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 7: to raise kids. And it's not just all about the

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01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 7: big Hollywood salaries, but there are a lot of families

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01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 7: who are suffering from that. And yet yet they're idiot.

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01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 7: Gavin Newsome governor still is the toast of Tinseltown, you know,

1464
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 7: and I just I don't get it.

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01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:56,719
Speaker 1: And then there's another part of the piece that talks

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01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 1: about Disney and how much money they're loose and they're losing.

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01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 1: It seems like Disney is losing money at every single turn.

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01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 1: And look, I know Disney is huge, and Disney just

1469
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 1: has mountains and mountains of cash, but how long can

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01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 1: Disney continue to to hemorrhage like this? And it doesn't

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01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 1: seem to me. I think there may be a little

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01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 1: less woke than they were a couple of years ago.

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01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: And they've sort of gotten away from, you know, in

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01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: Doctor Nady Kins into all the trans ideology and all

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01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 1: the rest of it. So I think that's to their

1476
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 1: credit they've sort of gotten away from that. But still

1477
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 1: on the woke scale, I think they're still pretty high

1478
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: up there.

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01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 7: Yes, it's too little, too late. They lost a billion

1480
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 7: dollars between Disney and Marvel projects. Wow and here that

1481
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 7: and live action snow White should have been a slam dunk.

1482
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 7: But what did they do? They say, hired a Latina

1483
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 7: girl to play snow White and that ended up being

1484
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 7: a huge, big, you know, controversy. They it's like they

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01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 7: work hard to make themselves lose money, right, It's like

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01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 7: somebody has got to say, guys, average Americans are going

1487
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 7: to think this is a stupid decision. They're not going

1488
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 7: to like this, they're not going to take their kids

1489
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 7: to it. But again, they're in that bubble and they

1490
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 7: don't realize it. And I'll tell you another real problem, Dan,

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01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 7: and I've experienced this firsthand the Sundance people. And Sundance

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01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 7: is where Quentin Tarantino got his big break with a

1493
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 7: movie called Reservoir Dogs. A lot of big directors have

1494
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 7: cut their teeth at Sundance and that's kind of made

1495
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 7: their career.

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01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 3: Do you know. Sundance has a screenwriting lab.

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01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 7: Where they help you young writers. They craft the script

1498
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:42,679
Speaker 7: and if you get in the screenwriting lab, you're probably

1499
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 7: going to get into the festival. Your whole career is

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01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 7: going to be made as far as they and they

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01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 7: ask you. Because I've applied to Sundance several times for

1502
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:55,480
Speaker 7: my documentaries. They ask you on the application for a documentary.

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01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 7: They don't care about like how did you make it

1504
01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 7: or what did you do? They want to know you

1505
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 7: identify as gay, bisexual, three fans. It's actually one of

1506
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 7: the questions on the form that you have to fill out,

1507
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 7: And the first time I entered, I was like, this

1508
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 7: is both you know, you know I'm not going to

1509
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 7: answer this.

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01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: Well, don't they have that same Don't they have that

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01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:20,600
Speaker 1: same sort of criteria now for films that get nominated

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01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 1: for the Big Awards for Best Picture, Yes, that's got

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Speaker 1: to have X number number. Yeah, go ahead, you.

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01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 7: Tell me what, Yeah, yeah, it's I think it's I

1515
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:32,679
Speaker 7: want to say it's got to be at least twenty

1516
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 7: to thirty percent have to be minority people in the film.

1517
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 7: But at Sundance in the screenwriting lab, one in one

1518
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 7: in ten people in the lab are are white men.

1519
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 7: And and they're purposely shutting out people like you and me.

1520
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 7: They don't care about the project. They just care about

1521
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 7: virtue signaling and saying isn't it wonderful that we have

1522
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 7: all these minority women writing their scripts. All you have

1523
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 7: to do is look at PBS and watch PBS on

1524
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 7: a given night and see if there's any stories about

1525
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 7: any people who aren't marginalized communities as they would call it, right,

1526
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 7: And and I'm not saying that there isn't a place

1527
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 7: for those sorts of films and those sorts of projects.

1528
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 7: Everybody deserves a voice. But when you're purposely shutting out

1529
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 7: the mainstream and the largest audience to prove a point,

1530
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 7: good luck, good luck trying to make it.

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01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1532
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 1: And then I look at the headline today on Hollywood

1533
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 1: and Toto, and I see the number one movie in

1534
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 1: the country is Super Mario Galaxy. So we've had all

1535
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 1: these pictures, you know, based on Suit, on Marvel, on

1536
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 1: comic books, and now the number one picture in the

1537
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: country is based on a video game.

1538
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, I will tell you the Oscar

1539
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,719
Speaker 7: winner this year was by a guy I actually walked

1540
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 7: out of his movie called Magnolia when I was a critic.

1541
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 7: I thought it was one of the weirdest worst films

1542
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 7: I've ever seen in my life. To his credit, he

1543
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 7: did Boogie Knights, which I loved with That was one

1544
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 7: of Mark Wahlberg's first movies.

1545
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was It was a movie.

1546
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 7: That was about basically a government that was all white supremacists,

1547
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 7: and it was too you know, all about immigration controlling

1548
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 7: and it was called one Battle after another and that

1549
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 7: one Best Picture but when they did, when they did

1550
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 7: the math on the film in this article, that movie.

1551
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 3: Lost one hundred million dollars.

1552
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 7: Nobody went to see it, nobody cared about it, and

1553
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 7: yet everybody in Hollywood voted.

1554
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 3: It as the best picture of the year.

1555
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: Boogie Knight's great work by Burt Reynolds in that movie awesome.

1556
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 3: So I agree. I interviewed him for that movie.

1557
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 7: And that there's a scene in that movie where he's

1558
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 7: in the kitchen with Mark Wahlberg and they're trying to

1559
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 7: figure each other out.

1560
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 3: That's to me one.

1561
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 7: Of the great scenes of the last forty years. And

1562
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 7: Reynolds killed it in that movie. I agree. So Paul

1563
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 7: Thomas isn't an idiot. He's done some great films, but

1564
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 7: you know, to do this film, but then where the

1565
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 7: government's all white supremacist and you know, it's just and

1566
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:10,719
Speaker 7: that's what Hollywood thinks is the.

1567
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:13,719
Speaker 3: One to pick. I just it's just.

1568
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 7: They've done it to themselves, is all.

1569
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 3: You can say.

1570
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at this, I've found another piece of

1571
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 1: Something else I wanted to throw at you was Meryl

1572
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 1: Streep was on with Stephen Colbert last night and she

1573
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:31,719
Speaker 1: comes out there and she starts talking about how Donald

1574
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 1: Trump doesn't want women to vote, and it starts going

1575
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,719
Speaker 1: on about the Same America Act and all this other stuff,

1576
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 1: And I think to myself, look, look, Johnny Carson would

1577
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 1: have gladly had Meryl Streep on his show. Do you

1578
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 1: think they would have sat there and talked about Ronald

1579
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: Reagan doesn't want this to happen, or Richard Nixon is

1580
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 1: a jerk? Or do you think Johnny Carson would have

1581
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 1: wasted her time and wasted the time of his audience

1582
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 1: having Meryl Street talk about the politics of the day.

1583
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 7: You know, it's so funny you say that I am

1584
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,719
Speaker 7: like ten years behind the technology that all my friends.

1585
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 7: I finally got a TV that has Roku and I

1586
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 7: started watching. There's a whole channel for Johnny Carson, and

1587
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 7: I watched, I binge watched like four hours of it.

1588
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 1: How about that It's easy to go down that rabbit hole,

1589
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 1: isn't it?

1590
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh. But you're exactly right.

1591
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 3: And that was his rule.

1592
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 7: He didn't want to talk politics, and he was classy

1593
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 7: and he was funny. And I will tell you I

1594
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 7: was telling my students the other day, we're doing a

1595
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 7: whole thing on the Olympics and Olympic coverage, and I

1596
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 7: showed him, I said, you need to see the guy

1597
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 7: who was my hero as a kid. And of course

1598
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 7: it was Bruce Jenner who wanted decathlon and I showed

1599
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 7: him the Wheaties commercial. And what's been really hard for

1600
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 7: me over the last couple of years is all of

1601
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 7: our heroes, the coolest guys we thought were the greatest

1602
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 7: white guys in America, right hip all turned woke and crazy.

1603
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 7: And now, to his credit, Bruce Jenner, yes he's a woman,

1604
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 7: but he's a little more conservative.

1605
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 3: But think about.

1606
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 7: Bruce Springsteen, who was cooler than Bruce Springsteen. And now

1607
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 7: I would I wouldn't go to a Bruce Springsteen concert.

1608
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 7: If he played outside my house, I would flip him

1609
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 7: off and I'd close the blind and I wouldn't even

1610
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 7: walk outside my front door to see Bruce Springsteen. Whereas

1611
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:26,679
Speaker 7: you know, fifteen twenty years ago, I would have paid

1612
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:28,600
Speaker 7: three hundred bucks to go to see his concert in

1613
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 7: Jersey when I lived in Jersey.

1614
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 1: Did you see the way did you say the way

1615
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 1: Trump blasted Bruce Springsteen on his on his true social No? Oh,

1616
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 1: I needed, yeah, go read that Trump on the Boss.

1617
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then and then when you think all of

1618
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 7: your Hollywood heroes would you wouldn't want to respect they're

1619
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 7: all crazy too, and it's just yeah, it's it's but

1620
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 7: it's our generation in particular, and I know there are

1621
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 7: guys out there listening, and you could probably name ten

1622
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 7: other people who you thought were great. Harrison Ford the

1623
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 7: other day, you know, Raiders of the Lost Ark, our

1624
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 7: hero was a kid, Hans Solo came out with some

1625
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 7: rant and rave about Trump, and so they're all they're

1626
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 7: all going nuts and why they're publisher started telling them, hey,

1627
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 7: guess what Trump won? Half the country likes him, or

1628
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 7: more than half. Probably not a good idea to talk

1629
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 7: about this, but they think that they're bulletproof and they're not.

1630
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Steve Oldfield, I love having you on, brother,

1631
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for the time we got to run.

1632
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 1: Before I let you go, though, okay, before I let

1633
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 1: you go. I read a little rumor the other day

1634
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 1: that Quentin Tarantino was toying with the idea of making

1635
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 1: another film, which I would love for that to happen.

1636
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: Do you think any of that is true?

1637
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised. I think he is. He has

1638
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:57,719
Speaker 7: more energy than anybody I've ever met. I can't imagine

1639
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 7: him not wanting to make something else.

1640
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 10: I have a.

1641
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 7: Feeling it's true. He's going to be like all those

1642
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 7: bands who do the farewell tour and then they do

1643
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:06,719
Speaker 7: another one.

1644
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 3: Ten years later. I think it's the same kind of

1645
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 3: a thing.

1646
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 7: He's like the Doobie Brothers. Remember how many goodbye tours

1647
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 7: the Doobie Brothers have done.

1648
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw I saw the Doobie Brothers a couple

1649
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 1: of years ago river from I think they're coming back

1650
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 1: again this year. So yeah, they're still out there. Yeah,

1651
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 1: all right, Steve Oldfield, we got to run with. Thank

1652
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: you so much. I appreciate it. Then take care of

1653
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:29,719
Speaker 1: yourself and tell your mom, I said, I all right,

1654
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,599
Speaker 1: I will, Thanks, thank you, Steve. All right, Steve Oldfield.

1655
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 1: Now he is the absolute best. Eleven twenty seven, little

1656
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 1: late for a break on seven hundred WS and the

1657
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 1: Trump orbit who is more hated by the left than

1658
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 1: Steven Miller. He is the White House Deputy Chief of

1659
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 1: Staff for Policy and Homeland Security. And I listened to

1660
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 1: this guy, and I think, how much better off would

1661
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 1: he be? Members of Congress, members of the Senate. Those

1662
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:08,879
Speaker 1: in the House fought along the same lines and acted

1663
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 1: along the same lines as this guy did. He is

1664
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 1: just unbelievably smart and ruthless when it comes to dealing

1665
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 1: with those on the left, and he does so unapologetically,

1666
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 1: and he does so with great vigor. Here he was

1667
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 1: at the White House Press briefing room talking about the

1668
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 1: reforms that they are going to bring to us education.

1669
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 1: And this is Stephen Miller at his absolute best. Russe,

1670
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 1: let's here cut number two.

1671
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 9: Children will be taught to love America. Children will be

1672
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 9: taught to be patriots. Children will be taught civic values

1673
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 9: for schools that want federal taxpayer funding.

1674
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:58,520
Speaker 1: So as we close the Department of Education and we provide.

1675
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 9: Funding to states, are going to make sure that these

1676
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 9: funds are not being used to promote communist ideology. For

1677
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 9: any nation to be successful, it cannot teach its children

1678
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 9: to hate themselves and to hate their country. So these

1679
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 9: are a few of the areas in which President Trump

1680
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 9: has fought the cancerous communist, woke culture that was destroying

1681
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 9: this country. Where we led to believe that men were women,

1682
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 9: that women were men. The racial discrimination was good, that

1683
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 9: merit was bad. And that safety and physical security matter

1684
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 9: less than the feelings of liberal ideologues.

1685
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 1: How much truth is there and what Stephen Miller just said,

1686
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 1: and how much think about that? What he said in

1687
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 1: the very beginning, We're going to teach kids to love America,

1688
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 1: about the greatness of America, about civic responsibility. Think about

1689
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 1: those ideas and how basic those ideas And maybe some

1690
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 1: of you listening to me right now, we're brought up

1691
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 1: with those kind of values. When you were young, and

1692
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 1: you were in school, and you stood up every day

1693
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 1: and you pledged allegiance to the flag, you put your

1694
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 1: hand over your heart, there was a flag in the classroom,

1695
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 1: and maybe an announcement came over the PA system and

1696
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 1: the pledge of allegiance was read for the entire school

1697
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:27,719
Speaker 1: to recite every day. How many schools do that now?

1698
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 1: How many leftists and communists teaching our kids now would

1699
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 1: abide such a thing? They wouldn't. And Stephen Miller knows

1700
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:46,719
Speaker 1: that the left absolutely hates these ideas, but he goes

1701
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 1: out there loud, proud, and sassy and tells the left

1702
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 1: exactly what the Trump administration plans to do. And so

1703
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 1: Trump is going to shut down the Department of Education

1704
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 1: changed the way schools are funded in this country. Cut

1705
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:11,520
Speaker 1: out all the nonsense, especially all this transgender ultra wokism

1706
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 1: and communist nonsense that is being taught to our kids.

1707
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 1: And you know the left just hates that. So every

1708
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 1: chance I get to play a SoundBite from Steven Miller,

1709
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 1: I am going to do it. CNN has been taking

1710
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 1: a lot of polls lately. They put out a poll

1711
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 1: a few days ago that showed Trump had one hun

1712
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 1: support amongst those who consider themselves MEGA. I had some

1713
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 1: idiot on the phone earlier tonight asking me what a

1714
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:56,520
Speaker 1: rhino meant, and I said, rhino stands for urn Republican

1715
01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:01,879
Speaker 1: in name only. And there are far too any Rhinos

1716
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 1: in positions where they can stab Trump in the back.

1717
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:09,719
Speaker 1: They may go on TV, they may run for election,

1718
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:14,640
Speaker 1: claim that they're Republicans, claim that they support Trump, but

1719
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:16,600
Speaker 1: when the rubber hits the road, well they do no

1720
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 1: such thing. They do just the exact opposite. They stick

1721
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 1: the knife in the back and they twist. But amongst MEGA,

1722
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 1: amongst people who really support Trump, he's got one hundred puport.

1723
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 1: How about the Democrats, How do the Democrats feel about

1724
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 1: Democrat leadership. Well, CNN did a poll on it, and

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Speaker 1: here's the guy from CNN cut fur. What's overall approofal

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Speaker 1: among Democrats of their leaders?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, okay, so you know you speak about Democrat on

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01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:50,680
Speaker 13: Democrat crime, and I want to know how unusual what

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01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 13: we're seeing right now about how Democrats feel about Democrats

1730
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 13: in Congress is take a look at this. This is

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01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:58,679
Speaker 13: a trend line going back through the years a midterm

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01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 13: elections in which there's a g GOP president. Look at this.

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01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:04,600
Speaker 13: In two thousand and six, DEM's net approval of congressional

1734
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 13: Democratic leaders was plus twenty eight. You go back to

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01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 13: last midterm, look at that plus nineteen. Very much on

1736
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 13: the positive side, Lodge, the bottom has fallen out. The

1737
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 13: bottom has fallen out minus four points. That is Democrats Democrats'

1738
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 13: own net approval of their own congressional leaders. Even Democrats

1739
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 13: don't like their own leaders when it comes to Congress.

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01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:28,879
Speaker 13: And overall, of course, the numbers are just absolutely awful.

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01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 13: So Democrat and Democrat crime absolutely. This to me screams

1742
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 13: again primary challenges across the map, and it screams to me, hey,

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01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:39,759
Speaker 13: when it comes to those next leadership elections, maybe something

1744
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 13: might be chooking was overall approval among.

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01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 1: Them, Maybe something might be cooking. Democrats are fed up

1746
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 1: with Democrat leaders, and who can blame them one Democrat leader?

1747
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,600
Speaker 1: And look when you go back and you look at

1748
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 1: what the Demo and Chris from Westchester is on hold,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get to him in just a minute.

1750
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 1: But when you go back and you look at what

1751
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 1: Democrats we're saying about immigration, especially about immigration. You've got

1752
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:12,799
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton talking about illegal aliens, how we can't continue

1753
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:16,080
Speaker 1: to let them come in. They ed Chuck Schumer talking

1754
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 1: about illegals, how they suck the life out of the

1755
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 1: healthcare system. Barack Obama illegal aliens. You can't have a

1756
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 1: country that's serious about borders you continue to let illegal

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01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 1: aliens in. We had the Supreme Court arguments yesterday about

1758
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 1: the Trump executive order that sought to ban the notion

1759
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:45,639
Speaker 1: of birthright citizenship. That if you are from another country

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01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 1: and you're in this country illegally, you come into this

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01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 1: country and you give birth to a kid, that kid

1762
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 1: does not get automatic citizenship just because you happen to

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01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 1: be in the United States of America. If you are

1764
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 1: in this country illegally, you cannot give birth to a

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01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 1: legal citizen. That's not my idea. That was the idea

1766
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 1: of a Democrat, a leading Democrat, Harry Reid. Rush Limbaugh

1767
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 1: used to call him dirty Harry. But here's Harry Reid

1768
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety three talking about birth rights, citizenship, the

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01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 1: argument we just had in the Supreme Court yesterday. Listen

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01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:33,599
Speaker 1: to Harry Reid from nineteen ninety three. Russ Cutt Number one.

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01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 14: If making it easy to be an illegal alien isn't enough,

1772
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 14: how about offering a reward for being an illegal immigrant?

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01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 1: No same country would do that.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:50,599
Speaker 14: Yes, again, if you break our laws by entering this

1776
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 14: country without permission and give birth to a child, we

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01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 14: reward that child with US citizenship and guarantee of full

1778
01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 14: access to all public and social services this society provides.

1779
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:06,799
Speaker 14: And that's a lot of services. Is it any wonder

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01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 14: that two thirds of the babies born at tax for

1781
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 14: expensive country county run hospitals in Los Angeles are born

1782
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 14: to illegal alien mothers. Just when the American people think

1783
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 14: nothing can be more absurd than the way we deal,

1784
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 14: or rather don't deal with illegal immigration, they discover that

1785
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 14: we have a political asylum system that would qualify us

1786
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 14: for Senator Proxmeyer's Golden Fleece Award a thousand times over.

1787
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:38,240
Speaker 14: I don't know why he didn't make this award.

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01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 1: He should have so Chris in Westchester, there's Harry Reid

1789
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety three, and at a time like that,

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01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 1: it would have been possible for Republicans and Democrats to

1791
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 1: find common ground on such issues. But these days it

1792
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what the issue is. If it is something

1793
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:05,240
Speaker 1: that Trump is in favor of, Democrats will oppose it

1794
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:06,639
Speaker 1: without question.

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01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:11,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, because Trump is in favor of it, he could

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01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 5: have made Jesus Christ put him in Miller's position, doctor man,

1797
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:21,840
Speaker 5: they would disagree with Jesus okay, just because Trump is

1798
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 5: the guy who did it. You know, they have this

1799
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 5: whole TDS Trump to raise in syndrome, and that's just

1800
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 5: not going to go away till the man who's out office,

1801
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:31,639
Speaker 5: and I think even twenty years afterwards, they're still gonna

1802
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 5: be piling on the poor guy. But the face of

1803
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:34,639
Speaker 5: the matter.

1804
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:38,679
Speaker 3: Is, Miller said nothing that was untrue. Name one thing.

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01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:42,599
Speaker 5: I want. I want a Democrat to literally discount anything

1806
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 5: that man just said, because what everything he said is

1807
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:49,720
Speaker 5: one hundred percent true, and it can be proven. And

1808
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 5: the fights of the matter is they don't care. They're

1809
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 5: in such a bubble now, buddy, that they just don't

1810
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 5: care anymore. And that's what that's why I was calling earlier.

1811
01:37:58,520 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 5: I was trying to get on with you when you

1812
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 5: the guy about the box. I don't care about that stuff.

1813
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 5: Why because I don't use them. I don't mess it.

1814
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 5: I'm not on the internet. I have no social platforms.

1815
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 5: I have never been on them. Don't care about them.

1816
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 5: They don't affect my life in any way. I don't

1817
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 5: use apps. I don't look at the if I need something.

1818
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 5: I just asked my wife. One of my older boys said, man,

1819
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 5: do you know what this is?

1820
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 3: Next thing? I know, it's showing up the house. Okay.

1821
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:21,559
Speaker 3: I don't touch screens.

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01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 5: I don't when you go into these restaurants with all

1823
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 5: these screens there, I don't touch them. First of all,

1824
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 5: I know if anybody's ever looked at one before they

1825
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 5: touched it, they're disgusting. Okay, So I don't touch these things.

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01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 5: I don't don't use ass I don't don't.

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01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 1: Scan, don't QR code. Don't do not scan the QR code.

1828
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 1: You could you could ruin your cell phone. I'm sure

1829
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 1: you have a cell phone though, don't you.

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01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 5: And that's all it is is a cell phone. I

1831
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 5: don't use it for anything else, there's not the only

1832
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 5: apps that are on it are the ones that came

1833
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 5: installed on it. You've never put one on the phone.

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01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:54,400
Speaker 3: I've never. I don't. To me, it's just a telephone,

1835
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 3: that's it.

1836
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:55,600
Speaker 2: You know.

1837
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 3: I've worked at.

1838
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:57,720
Speaker 5: Places where they say, hey, well, we need you to

1839
01:38:57,760 --> 01:38:59,800
Speaker 5: download this on your PA, saying no, you didn't hire

1840
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:02,639
Speaker 5: me my phone. You hired me. My phone doesn't work here,

1841
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 5: I do. Are you giving my phone a paycheck? No, well,

1842
01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:07,600
Speaker 5: then nothing's going on it. If I need, if I

1843
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 5: need product from you to operate on a digital level,

1844
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 5: then you need to provide me the device. Because I

1845
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 5: said I checked the ball on this phone doesn't say

1846
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:18,720
Speaker 5: you know whatever coching I'm working. It doesn't work like that.

1847
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:22,600
Speaker 5: But yet they they want you now to put everything

1848
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 5: on you. They're trying to put HRS on you. They're

1849
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 5: trying to put your time card on your phone, your

1850
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:29,679
Speaker 5: credit on your phone. They want everything on your phone

1851
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:30,840
Speaker 5: because that way.

1852
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 1: It's easier to track you.

1853
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 5: You know, it's easier to find out. Yeah, I mean

1854
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 5: everything is on the phone.

1855
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:38,799
Speaker 10: I'm sorry, but why would you put any.

1856
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:41,839
Speaker 5: Of that stuff on a phone something that can be taken? Okay,

1857
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,719
Speaker 5: it ripped off, and not all your credit, all everything

1858
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:47,639
Speaker 5: that you your entire life is on this little device. Okay,

1859
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 5: I knew we were you know. Luckily you would buy

1860
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 5: me the same age. So you remember when atari pong

1861
01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 5: was introduced to the world. Okay, that was the downfall

1862
01:39:58,520 --> 01:39:59,519
Speaker 5: of the human race.

1863
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:00,760
Speaker 3: As soon as.

1864
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:05,760
Speaker 5: That digitalation was applied to the human race, it to

1865
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 5: be put in every other platform or every living room

1866
01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 5: in the country. We were screwed.

1867
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 1: We thought, we thought now, we thought pong was the

1868
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 1: most unbelievable thing ever. Of course, you had the little dial.

1869
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 1: You moved the thing back and forth, and the little

1870
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 1: square ball would hit your paddel and go and then

1871
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:27,800
Speaker 1: go slowly across the screen.

1872
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:33,599
Speaker 5: You don't realize that that was actually a military device.

1873
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 5: It was a contractor who was like eighty years old

1874
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:38,599
Speaker 5: for the military, who was coming up with a way

1875
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 5: that they wanted a way to scrabble during World War Two.

1876
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 5: The screens the radar screen, so that the little dots

1877
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 5: would jump all over the place. He did that the

1878
01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:49,479
Speaker 5: dots would go everywhere, and then he realized taking them up.

1879
01:40:49,479 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 5: When the dot hits the edge of the screen, it

1880
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:53,719
Speaker 5: comes back, and when it goes over here, it comes back.

1881
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 5: A couple of guys from an MIT back in the

1882
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 5: late sixties early seventies said, you know, we can do

1883
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 5: something with it and turned it into a game. A

1884
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:06,040
Speaker 5: military tactic was turned into a game. And once that

1885
01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 5: digital platform was introduced to the world and knew we

1886
01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:12,760
Speaker 5: were screwed, we literally went from analog to digital overnight.

1887
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:15,280
Speaker 1: All right, well, Chris, I'm going to remember that you

1888
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:18,679
Speaker 1: said that it was pong that brought about the advent

1889
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:22,439
Speaker 1: of the downfall of America. So there you go, Chris,

1890
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 1: with that, we're up against the clock. We got to run.

1891
01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 1: My friend, I appreciate it. He was always picking up

1892
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:31,719
Speaker 1: the phone and there you go. Chris from Westchester is gone.

1893
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:34,479
Speaker 1: That's it for me. Russ Jackson, thank you for everything.

1894
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 1: Have a great night, have a great Friday, and a

1895
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 1: great weekend here on the Home of the Reds seven

1896
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:40,840
Speaker 1: hundred WLW