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Speaker 1: So dial now a three three four one two WXDX,

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Speaker 1: And here's something.

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Speaker 1: The Detroit Lions rightly and absolutely loved that guy with

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Speaker 1: he's an embarrassment, Oh kick him out of the games forever,

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Speaker 2: He's a loyal fan. He's had season tickets in the

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Speaker 2: Why would the Lions want to kick that guy out?

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Speaker 1: In particular because he apparently did nothing wrong at Detroit

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, DK gonna have to pay him.

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Speaker 2: This is the mark Man show.

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Speaker 2: And I get to his teammates, you're gonna support him.

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Speaker 1: But DK's bad conduct voided his contract guarantees, and the

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Speaker 1: They clinched. I'm sure Love won't play. Then again, Lamar

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Speaker 1: interesting story in the Baltimore paper. There was a column

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Speaker 1: A little kid in a grow man's body. Said he

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Speaker 2: Come watch the.

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Speaker 1: Game with me Sunday at the school host Taverney Claradge

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Speaker 1: That's just being assumed because there's no way our hero,

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Speaker 2: I bet they did, and I bet they made it up.

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Speaker 2: I bet they lied. And DK's not commenting because gonna

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Speaker 1: He's not had his career ruined, but he's gonna have

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Speaker 2: He screwed up in just a big way.

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Speaker 1: But as I've been saying, if this was a local

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Speaker 2: Handling that guy as a hero. You would, you would.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you what I bet in secret, somebody

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Speaker 2: You'd done good, Like I said.

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Speaker 1: I know that other people doing this in this time

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Speaker 1: in this case, there isn't. DK Metcalf one wrong, blue

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Speaker 1: haired dope, obnoxious, nothing worse. Get your calls in out

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Speaker 2: Time for calls on the fifteens unless we don't get any.

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Speaker 2: But that's okay if we don't. But A three three

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Speaker 1: You guys all know the DKs, the dink, the guy

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Speaker 1: What a great match up that is, pit against the

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Speaker 1: Here's a scary note about the Penguins who don't resume

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Speaker 1: You just ain't going nowhere if you do that. And

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Speaker 1: Double A hockey players have gone on strike, and all

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Speaker 1: Go play beer league? What the frigg of your options?

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Speaker 3: Are you.

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Speaker 3: Mark A feel things about the Steelers that really really

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Speaker 3: made me happy. You know, they took you to their

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Speaker 4: Being very repetitive and uh, you know everybody knew what

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Speaker 4: Don't see Rogers jumping off and down having a happy feet.

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Speaker 3: Now. He stays in the pocket because he trusts them,

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Speaker 3: and that is excellent because they the whole offensive line

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Speaker 1: Well, like Jerry Duma's pointed out, Bob, the offensive lines

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Speaker 3: And then the last thing that I wanted to say

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Speaker 2: Now, correct, correct?

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Speaker 1: I mean even of the games Green Bay, I would

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Speaker 1: be played. Then again, if Lamar's nottful, he should, you know,

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Speaker 1: you got to beget out there because it's it's steward

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Speaker 1: die Bob, great call, Thank you for calling up. Next

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Speaker 1: talk to Tim bens one oh five nine Join out

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Speaker 1: by Tim Benz in the trip Tim up, I'm amazed

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Speaker 1: at the reaction to what happened with DK Metcalf. How

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Speaker 5: Well, you can't punch a pope, So I think that's

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Speaker 5: the difference. But aside from that, it's not that different.

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Speaker 5: It's on DK Metcalf, and I get it. If you

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Speaker 1: Tim, It just wasn't. I won't even let that be

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Speaker 5: It doesn't matter if it was or wasn't. He can't

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Speaker 5: Shack lost and happened to get away with it before,

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Speaker 5: that doesn't mean that the NFL isn't right to, or

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Speaker 5: at the very least within its rights to make the

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Speaker 5: a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and that, of course was refresh my memory.

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Speaker 1: Tim lost in a Buffalo player that smacked the Philly fan.

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Speaker 1: You're right, I mean one wrong doesn't mean everything done

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Speaker 1: I just think it's moronic to the guy with everything

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Speaker 1: This obsession goes both ways. Between the blue haired guy

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Speaker 6: Well, I do you know, did you see the press conference?

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Speaker 2: Find a chance I saw enough of it to know

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Speaker 5: Yes, you know, him begging DK to say he was sorry,

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Speaker 5: trying to get DK to admit that nothing happened, or

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Speaker 6: Defamation instead of just one, because.

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Speaker 5: Now he can go after Harrison, go after Johnson, as

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Speaker 1: Think Harrison and O Joe Sinko made that up that

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Speaker 1: they never communicated with DK, because that's what I think.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I mean, what's why do you assume that?

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Speaker 4: Why?

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Speaker 5: Why can't why couldn't he have those two have just

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Speaker 5: texted him and said what happened?

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Speaker 6: And DK sent backwards Because.

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Speaker 1: I don't think X DOOCS would podcast feel any need

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Speaker 5: know about slander, they don't know about those kind of things.

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Speaker 5: They just think that they can shoot from the hip

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Speaker 5: to them. But now it might catch up to him,

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Speaker 5: So you know, I think they do feel like that

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Speaker 5: they can do what they want to do in a vacuum,

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Speaker 5: as opposed to people who do this for a living

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Speaker 1: Tim, Where does the past game go without the Kaitlin

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Speaker 5: See, I still think Baltimore is such a mess that

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Speaker 5: I can't I'm imagine people are okay with how Harball

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Speaker 6: At the end of that game last week.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 6: I don't have a great feel for that game.

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Speaker 5: I have a better field that the Steelers should win

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Speaker 5: game specifically your point where it goes. It has to

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Speaker 5: have any other choice. They've started to get John hu

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Speaker 6: That they would.

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Speaker 5: It's more like that tricky stuff out of the backfield

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Speaker 5: it's gonna have to come down to I think Rogers

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Speaker 5: the greatest strength of feeling and MBS is being at

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Speaker 5: the last part of that equation isn't in the sentence anymore. So,

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Speaker 5: if you're covered, you're still covered, and then Rogers isn't

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Tim Benz of the Trip here on

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Speaker 1: the Mark Mannen Show. Tim uh is Kenneth Gainwell, now

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Speaker 1: officially the new Ladanian Tomlinson. I mean, where where did

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Speaker 5: I'm still not sure, but every angle suggests that he did.

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Speaker 6: And it was a whale of a player.

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Speaker 2: No, he definitely did, but it almost seemed like he

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Speaker 6: Accident, by surprise, by accident.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Why, he's a really good player.

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Speaker 5: I think he was properly cast behind Barkley. Maybe he

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Speaker 5: He's a quality, good dollar signing for sure. I don't

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Speaker 5: hand to him thirty times a game back like Ladanian

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Speaker 5: Tomlinson was, But for what they're using him to do,

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Speaker 5: they're getting more and then some. And I think Mark

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Speaker 5: that's helped Warren. Warren stayed fresher longer than I expected

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Speaker 5: Gainwell has been able to handle so much of the

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Speaker 1: Is he staking a claim to letting Roderick Jones go

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Speaker 6: It's probably more the latter, but I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Regardless of Dylan Cook and how well he's playing, I

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Speaker 5: I would think, or you're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Have to go back into the draft, or maybe you

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Speaker 2: How about that idea, right exactly?

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: No, but I'm talking more like just in a vacuum.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was, you know, it was unfortunate timing

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Speaker 6: I think it's the first time I've seen Gamewell screw.

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Speaker 3: Up on a chip.

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Speaker 5: That's another aspect of his game that's good, but that

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Speaker 6: Or he's going to get that record in the first drive.

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Speaker 6: It's very interesting to see how this goes Mark based.

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Speaker 5: Now Rogers would be one of those that you could

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Speaker 5: sit for. Rudolph, I wouldn't do it for two weeks

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Speaker 6: Don't want him to be hurt going into playoffs. As

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Speaker 6: you're building this momentum.

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Speaker 1: I think it's much more important to rest the old

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Speaker 1: I mean, rest is better than rhythm for somebody who's

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Speaker 5: And it's an excuse to look at Howard. If you

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Speaker 6: You don't they might.

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Speaker 5: But the the other positions like receiver, offensive line, defensive

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Speaker 6: People like rest everybody.

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Speaker 5: I don't know who everybody is at this point. A

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Speaker 2: To because they're gonna and somebody has to play. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's more like.

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Speaker 5: so they might not be able to play that game

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Speaker 5: when it comes to resting guys and inactive guys, considering

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Speaker 5: how many guys are banged up to begin with, Well,

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 1: TJ should play a little bit, assuming he's okay, don't you.

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Speaker 1: I would hate to have him going to the playoffs

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Speaker 1: having not played for over a month.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well that would have to come down to next

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Speaker 5: week because if you saw they got the injury re

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Speaker 5: poored out, I think that might have happened during your

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Speaker 5: commercial break. But he's been ruled out, Austin's been ruled out,

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Speaker 5: Ecchos has.

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Speaker 6: Been ruled out, Pierre has been ruled out.

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Speaker 5: And real, Yeah, Ramsey's questionable and Ciamalo is questionable. So

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Speaker 5: what did I just say three defensive backs? They're questionable

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Speaker 5: or out already. And yeah, so I think they probably

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Speaker 5: want to get what a few reps against the Ravens,

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Speaker 5: whether the game matters or not.

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Speaker 2: Well, Tim, this is assuming they don't stab him in

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Speaker 2: the other lung.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, if they want to get out of

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Speaker 5: that contract, that was a creative way to do it.

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Speaker 6: And Metcalf almost gave them an.

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Speaker 5: Opportunity to get out what technically he did give him

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Speaker 5: a contract, the ability to get out of that contract.

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Speaker 6: But you know, like you said earlier in your show,

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Speaker 6: they're never going to play that hand.

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Speaker 1: Tim, do you think Garrett gets the sack record? I

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Speaker 1: find this game, even if it's meaningless, even if the

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Speaker 1: Steelers have clinched, I find it intriguing because the Garrett

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Speaker 1: sack record thing, and because Shador I mean, he is

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Speaker 1: a story and I hate to admit it. He plays

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Speaker 1: just good enough, just often enough that I'm intrigued.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you, And because they were so obviously linked

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Speaker 5: to him during pre draft conversations, there's an undercurrent of

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Speaker 5: talk there that you want to see followed up. It's

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Speaker 5: an intrigue, intriguing interesting, curious game regardles of if there

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Speaker 5: are playoff implications or not. If it's strictly just from

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Speaker 5: a Pittsburgh perspective, it's do you slow down?

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Speaker 2: Garrett?

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Speaker 6: Who do you protect?

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Speaker 3: Who do you sit?

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Speaker 2: How do you get.

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Speaker 6: Around the metcalf problem?

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Speaker 5: You know, all these things are interesting and intriguing to me.

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Speaker 5: And you know one thing we haven't gotten to mark,

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Speaker 5: and it's a whole nother layer of the conversation.

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Speaker 6: You probably get into more next week. We'll have to.

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Speaker 5: But you know, do you play the game of how

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Speaker 5: hard do you want to play to avoid a team?

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Speaker 6: Depending on the permutation?

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Speaker 2: No, you can't. You can't. You can't do that. You can't.

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Speaker 1: The minute you try to finagle it, it goes the

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Speaker 1: other way, even if you don't mean it to. Even

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Speaker 1: if you do what you want, something else you didn't

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Speaker 1: content happens been in that vein Tim, Who would you

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Speaker 1: most prefer to play? I keep coming back to the

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Speaker 1: LA Chargers, and by far not that it would be

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Speaker 1: an easy game, but her but Harbaugh cannot coach himself,

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Speaker 1: and Herbert's stinged up and has been all year.

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Speaker 5: Really, yeah, the harball out coaching himself is part of

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Speaker 5: the bloodline of the family Herbert.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a different guy.

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Speaker 5: It seems like when it comes to winning playoff games.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's the uniform, it's the helmet. Everybody's spooked

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Speaker 5: because it's Jacksonville. We've seen that fish before here. But

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Speaker 5: still that might be the best option, even though they're

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Speaker 5: playing well right now.

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Speaker 6: It's either them or the Chargers.

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Speaker 5: I know there are two constants with the Bills and

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Speaker 5: Houston that I want no part of. I want no

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Speaker 5: part of seeing that pass rush against a banged up

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Speaker 5: Steelers offensive line. And I want no part of the

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Speaker 5: Steelers trying to defend that run game from Buffalo. If

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Speaker 5: they can avoid either those two, great flip a coin

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Speaker 5: between LA and Jacksonville. But I think the most important

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Speaker 5: thing to advance, Mark, I think you'd agree with me

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Speaker 5: on this. Don't you think the Steelers are a home

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Speaker 5: dog against any of those four teams in the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: Wouldn't any of those four teams come in as a favorite.

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Speaker 1: I think it might be pick him against the Chargers

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Speaker 1: and maybe Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: But I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: I think I think and Jacksonville would be slight favorites.

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Speaker 1: Houston a little bit more than slight Buffalo, I think

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Speaker 1: probably five or six points.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that would kind of go in that same range too.

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Speaker 5: I'd probably make it in a field goal realm for

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Speaker 5: Houston five to six, maybe for Buffalo, and then uh yeah,

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Speaker 5: maybe a point pick them something like that. But even

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Speaker 5: if it's a pick them, that's saying something because then

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Speaker 5: you're suggesting you're getting rid of the three point home

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Speaker 5: field advantage. There's just by making that assumption that you know,

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Speaker 5: then the Chargers are what if it's a neutral field

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Speaker 5: a three point favorite, then by extension or Jacksonville for

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Speaker 5: that matter.

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Speaker 2: Tim great stuff. Will do it again next week.

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Speaker 6: Enjoy the game, all right, you got it?

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Speaker 2: Mark?

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Speaker 3: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: That's Tim Ben's Charlie bats at the top of the

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Speaker 1: IRA one oh five to nine, double him on the ax.

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Speaker 1: deep about the DK metcalf situation.

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Speaker 7: Now, at the same time, as you see in parts

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Speaker 7: of society a road, shall we say, maybe the conduct

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Speaker 7: has changed a little bit over the years. Now I'm

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Speaker 7: all for a good trash talk. And you know, the

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Speaker 7: Brown's got the dog pound, they got a great fan base.

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Speaker 7: I love the banter with the fans. I was bantering

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Speaker 7: with the fan in the in the stands uh the

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Speaker 7: other day. It was it was yelling a bunch of

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Speaker 7: stuff at me and then his voice cracked. I steazing

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Speaker 7: about that. But there's a line. I think there's a

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Speaker 7: line that they shouldn't be crossed.

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Speaker 1: Society is eroding, that's true, and NFL locker rooms aren't ground.

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Speaker 2: Zero for that.

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Speaker 1: Talk about men behaving badly and as far as a

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Speaker 1: line that should not be crossed, that's true. But that

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Speaker 1: fan in Detroit did not cross that line. The guy

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Speaker 1: who crossed the line was to Kaylin Zacharias Metcalf. Should

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Speaker 1: the Steeler sit Aaron Rodgers on Sunday at Cleveland if

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Speaker 1: Baltimore loses on Saturday Night.

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Speaker 2: Here's what Lewis Reddick said on ESPN. I think about it.

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Speaker 8: I don't necessarily believe in that. I do believe that

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Speaker 8: this offense right now has found kind of a sweet

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Speaker 8: spot and found kind of a rhythm that comes with repetition,

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Speaker 8: and so I wouldn't want to break that up. And

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Speaker 8: in particular, look, you saw this over the past couple

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Speaker 8: of weeks, especially his rhythm that he has found with

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Speaker 8: the running backs in the passing game. I think that's

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Speaker 8: the kind of thing you don't want to disrupt, and

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Speaker 8: you probably want to keep playing him.

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Speaker 2: I would just so.

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Speaker 8: I would hate to see this football team without Aaron

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Speaker 8: Rodgers because I think he is a catalyst.

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Speaker 2: Right now.

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Speaker 1: It's a mixed bag, and it's a tough call because

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Speaker 1: the offense has found a sweet spot, even if it's

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Speaker 1: not all that sweet, but there is rhythm, there is repetition.

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Speaker 2: They have found things they can do well.

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Speaker 1: Rogers has looked good, and Riddick is right about Rogers's

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Speaker 1: rhythm thrown to the running backs especially, but Rogers is

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Speaker 1: forty two and Miles Garrett could kill him. And for

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Speaker 1: an old man like Rogers, rest is more important than rhythm.

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Speaker 1: So if the Steelers have clinched by kickoff on Sunday

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Speaker 1: at Cleveland, I might play Rogers at half at Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: at most, maybe just a quarter. Here's Reggie Miller on

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Speaker 1: the Dan Patrick Show talking about ways to ruin basketball

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Speaker 1: even more.

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Speaker 2: Dare I say there may be a four point shot

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Speaker 2: the game.

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Speaker 9: Everything evolves, live e balls. I have no problem with that. Now,

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Speaker 9: it's gonna mess up the records. If I'm Stephen Curry,

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Speaker 9: I would be upset with that, But in ten years

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Speaker 9: I wouldn't be surprised if there's a four point.

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Speaker 2: Line a four point shot.

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Speaker 1: That's not basketball evolving, that's basketball becoming even more Carnie,

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Speaker 1: the three point shot has ruined basketball. There's no pick

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Speaker 1: and roll anymore, there's no mid range jumper anymore. The

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Speaker 1: Boston Celtics jack up fifty three pointers a game.

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Speaker 2: Basketball has no fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: Evolving can also mean recognizing that the three pointers served

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Speaker 1: its purpose, but sucks.

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Speaker 2: Now and they ought to get rid of it.

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Speaker 1: Up Next, more football talk with former Steelers quarterback Charlie

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Speaker 1: Batch here on one oh five nine