1 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the Great American October the seventh, twenty twenty 2 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: three is a date that will live an infamy for 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: those of the Jewish faith. I think throughout the world 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: as far as the of the aggravation of what happened 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: with the Hamas has below all the Islamic extremists and 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: what happened on that date is incredible. And joining you 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: and I now as Urik Kaufman, author of American Intafada 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: and professor Uri Kaufman, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: And much as we did during nine to eleven or 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: maybe Pearl Harbor, the world change for Israel on October 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: the seventh, twenty twenty three. Can you describe Israel, say, 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: on October the third or fourth of twenty twenty three, 13 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: two or three days before the attack by hamas the 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: status of Israel at that point. Then we're going to 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: compare it to what Israel was today after October the seventh, 16 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: and what's happening today. But describe Israel, say a couple 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: of days before October the seventh. 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: You go back to let's say October the sixth, twenty 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: twenty three. Okay, Israel, I could say was in its 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: golden age. Its economy was thriving. It's per capita income 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: was higher than Germany, Italy, Britain, France, Canada. Even it 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 2: seemed like it was in an extended period of peace. 23 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: It was only spending three and a half percent of 24 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 2: its GDP on defense, the lowest level in its history, 25 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: I think, even a bit lower than what we spent 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: here in America. It really looked like blue skies ahead, 27 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 2: and then just overnight the whole thing went upside down, 28 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: which kind of is what happened in nineteen seventy three. 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: It looked like everything was great, and then October the sixth, 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy three, came along and everything got turned upside down. 31 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: Of course, I was there six months before that. I 32 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: sensed when I spoke to israelis I spent time in 33 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: the West Bank, spent time in Masada, spent time in 34 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: Palestinian held territories. It was safe, it was secure. We 35 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: were told there might be some rockets at the Hotel David. 36 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: If that's the case, we'll give you a warning, go 37 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: into the stairwell. None of that happened. The streets were 38 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: full of tourism. I was told that before October the seventh, 39 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: and you know, there was full employment. About twenty five 40 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: thousand Palestinians came across the checkpoints every day. There was 41 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: a sense that we're over the hump. The Abraham Accords 42 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: were not quite fully implemented, but Trump was going to 43 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: win the election, in which case it'll be better. And 44 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden October seventh happened. Can you to 45 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: tell the American people why it happened? We've gone back 46 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: in time with Pearl Harbor and with nine to eleven. 47 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: Why did October the seventh happen? And why weren't the 48 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: Israeli government prepared for that? 49 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: Well, the lead that it happened was that CAMAS wanted 50 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 2: to prevent normalization between Israel and Saudi Arabia. And of course, 51 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: when we talk about CAMAS, it's a terrorist group. We 52 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: don't know the inner workings, it's all opaque. But this 53 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: is basically a good I guess you could say, assessment 54 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: of what happened. They did not want to see Israel normalized. 55 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: There was, as you say, talk of the Abraham Accords, 56 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: President Trump's Abraham Accords expanding, expanding to Saudi Arabia, expanding 57 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: to a country called Oman. Maybe some other players and 58 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 2: Hamas saw this. And you have to understand, Kamas never 59 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: gave up its dream of genocide, of killing all the Jews, 60 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: of wiping Israel off the map. Iran never gave up 61 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: on that dream. They had a clock ticking in downtown Tehran, 62 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: ticking down to a date in twenty forty when they 63 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: said they were going to kill all the Jews. Hesbila 64 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: never gave up on the dream, and Iran had built 65 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: what they called the ring of fire around Israel. It 66 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: was Camas, and not just Kamas in Gaza, but Hamas 67 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: in Judea, Samaria. It was Hesbola up in Lebanon. It 68 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: was Bishar Assad in Syria. It was the Iraqi militias 69 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: in Iraq. She had militias in Iraq, and of course 70 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: it was Yemen where you have the who, theies, and 71 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: Iran itself. So they have this ring of fire. They 72 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: always said they were going to activate it at some 73 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: point to wipe Israel off the map. It does appear 74 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: that y es Cin Nooir, the head of the mosque, 75 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: jumped the gun and he dragged the region into a 76 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: war before Iran would have wanted it but that's really 77 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: what happened. You never really need much of a reason. Unfortunately, 78 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: with the Jahadists, I guess you can say that it's 79 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: when they're living in peace that you have to ask 80 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: yourself why that's happening. 81 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: Why did October seventh militarily from the AMS perspective, why 82 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: did it succeed? Why was the idea of unprepared? 83 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: It's exactly what happened in nineteen seventy three. There was 84 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: a failure of a core assumption. The core assumption was 85 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: the Palestinians in Gaza are not going to go to 86 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: war because it would be an active national suicide. You 87 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: have to realize at that moment, as you indicated, seventeen 88 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: thousand Palestinians from Gaza were working in Israel each and 89 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: every day. Israel was supplying Gaza with sixty seven thousand 90 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: trucks filled with supplies. Israel supplied Gaza with five point 91 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 2: seven billion yallons of water, of its electricity, all of 92 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: its fuel by the way, as an asside, The New 93 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: York Times described this as a blockade, sometimes as the 94 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: Draconian blockade. 95 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: They like making stuff up. 96 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: But the Palestinians and God, there was no blockade. It 97 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: was the opposite. They had effectively given them the benefits 98 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: of peace. Prime Minister in Nittanye, who had even announced. 99 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: A few weeks before. 100 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: That Gods and Palestinians could explore for offshore natural gas 101 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: in the Mediterranean off the coast of Goza, where there 102 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: is thought to be natural gas, which would be, of 103 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 2: course a big source of wealth for the Palestinian people. 104 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: And no one dreamt that they would blow that up, 105 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: but they did, and they did because, as the Kamas 106 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: leaders themselves said, they're not like you and me. They're 107 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: not like the West. They're not really concerned about bettering 108 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: the lives of their people. They're not concerned with raising 109 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: their kids. They just want to wipe Israel off the map. 110 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: They just want to come a genocide, they say'd user 111 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: apes and pigs, and that's more important to them. And 112 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: you can really say the same about Iran. The Ayapola 113 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: Homini back in the day once said the revolution was 114 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 2: not about the price of watermelons, and what he met 115 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: by that was if I were to ask you what's 116 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: the role of government, you'd say, well, the role of 117 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 2: government is to improve the lives of the citizenry. And 118 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: then you might say, without a trick question, isn't that 119 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: obvious over there? That's not the way the Islamists look 120 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 2: at it. They view the role of government as trying 121 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: to create this caliphate, hopefully in the capitol of Mecca, 122 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: and killing all the people they deemed to be infidels, 123 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: and that's more important than anything else, and that is 124 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 2: why all their resources are directed towards war, towards Hesbola, 125 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: towards the hoolies. Even now, the Iranians can't keep the 126 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 2: lights on, they don't have water. I mean, certain basic 127 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: things we take for granted. You turn the faucet, water 128 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: comes out. They can't take that for granted in Iran. 129 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: And yet the Iranians are still sending billions and billions 130 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 2: of dollars. Took thems to Hespula, to the Hoovies, because again, 131 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 2: this is what's most important to them. That could just 132 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: make one final pull. When President Obama did the Iran deal, 133 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: it freed up over one hundred billion dollars to the Iranians, 134 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: and at the time, President Obama said, well, they're going 135 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: to spend that money on their kids, on their country, 136 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: on their economy, And it was ridiculous they took that 137 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: money and they sent it to the who theies. The 138 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: hes bought a kama because that's their national priority, that's 139 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 2: what's most important to them, and it just showed a 140 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: fundamental misunderstanding of Iranian priorities. And again, as you said, Thanky, 141 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: president Trump is in the White House and we finally 142 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: understand our enemies a little better than. 143 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: We did before. 144 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: It's a culture of death. Some a US leaders when 145 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: asked why do you build your facilities underground below hospitals 146 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: and orphanages, in schools and apartment buildings, it's because the 147 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: civilians that are being killed to get at them are 148 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: also part of the Intifada against Israel. They want Palestinians 149 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: and gods and children to be killed by the Jew 150 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: in order to demonstrate to the UN into the world 151 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: world that there's some sort of holocaust happening, some sort 152 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: of Genosade happening, which is a bunch of bs. They 153 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: Hamas specifically wants men, women and children and gods. It'll 154 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: be killed, and that's part of the Intifada, that's part 155 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: of They're part of it. They want four year old 156 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: girls to have their legs blown off because that's what 157 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: they want. It's a culture of death, not a culture 158 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: of life. So why should. 159 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 4: Anyone make peace with them? 160 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: Right right now? You know the talks are ongoing, it's 161 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: going to be close to hostages are going to be released, allegedly. 162 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: I'll believe it when I see it. But why do 163 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: business with them at all? Because whether it's five thousand 164 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: left or five hundred left, they're committed to the destruction, 165 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: the murder of Jews and Westerners whoever they might be found. 166 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 4: Why accept their word for anything? We know what they want. 167 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: Well, they're not accepting their word. And that's what's different 168 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: about it this time. This time, we're not trusting the Palestinians. 169 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: The way the deal is set up, the first thing 170 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: that happens is the hostages go free. That's what we 171 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: all want to sha. The second thing, though, is the 172 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: key point. Israel is going to stay in Gaza with 173 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: its soldiers in a perimeter surrounding Gaza so that they 174 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: can no longer flood it with weapons from Egypt from Sinai. Now, 175 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: when Kamala Harris was Vice president, she said I will 176 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: not allow this. It was in a speech in July 177 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four when she was already he presumed 178 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: a candidate for the Democrats. She said, I will not 179 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: allow this. I'm not going to let Israel have a 180 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 2: presence there. It'll shrink Gaza and that'll hurt the Palestinians. Well, well, 181 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: then if you're doing that, you're basically trusting Comas to 182 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: not do what he has done before and has been 183 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: doing for decades, which is just rearmed for the next round. 184 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: This time it's going to be different, and President Trump 185 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: has made that absolutely clear. He is also said Camas 186 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: is not going to be in power when this is over. 187 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: Gaza is going to demilitarize. There will be some sort 188 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: of civilian government, but Hamasa and the PA, the Palestinian authority, 189 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: which isn't really much better, they're just not going to 190 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: be allowed to take a part in that. So we 191 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: can only hope that it's going to get a little 192 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: bit better because now Israel will be in charge of 193 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: security instead of trusting the Palestinians who've broken their word, 194 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: basically broken every treaty they've ever signed. 195 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: Professor Yurik Kaufman, can you address yourself to the issue 196 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: why is Israel so despised by Europe, by the UN? 197 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: By American college kids. If a poll was done about 198 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: do you support Palestinians or israel I think the poll 199 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: indicates two thirds of Americans wrongfully educated by the miseducation systems. 200 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: We have support Palestinians over Israelis, who simply won piece 201 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: and Israel has few friends in the world. 202 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 4: Why is that? 203 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 2: The easiest way to understand this is to engage in 204 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: a thought experiment. So let's assume every fact of the 205 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: October seven attack happened exactly the way it did. Total 206 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: unprovoked attack. Twelve hundred people murdered, two hundred and fifty ostages, 207 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: women raped. One more fact you need to know the 208 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: Biden administration budgeted billions of dollars in aid for Gaza, 209 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: to whom they would characterize as the innocent civilians. Okay, 210 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: let's assume all that happened exactly the way it did. 211 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 2: Only let's assume the attackers were Germans of another era 212 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: or Ukrainians, in other words, are white supremacists. Let's assume 213 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: they were white people. Right, do you really think that 214 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: Biden would have budgeted billions of dollars to white people 215 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 2: who said Jews are apes and pigs? And now hold 216 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: the thought, let's change all the identities of the players. 217 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: Let's assume again same attack, and let's assume white supremacists 218 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: instead of Arab supremacists. But let's assume they murdered twelve 219 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: hundred black people and they raped black women. And now 220 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: a Republican administration said, let's give billions of dollars to 221 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: the innocent civilians, the innocent white supremacist who say that 222 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: Blacks are apes and pigs. There would have been rioting 223 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: in the streets, and rightly so. So what we have 224 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: here is this weird kind of dynamic. And then you 225 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: get into something called cognitive diss where when people have 226 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 2: deeply held beliefs and then facts appear the contradict the beliefs, 227 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: people change the facts, not the beliefs. And that's why 228 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 2: Barack Obama, right after the attack tweeted that we have 229 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 2: to say facts that there's unclean hands on both sides. Well, 230 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: why don't he draw the moral equivalents, he said, because 231 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: of what he termed the unbearable occupation. Well, there was 232 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: no occupation Israels was drawn from Godza eighteen years before. 233 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: But he didn't like those facts, so he changed the 234 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: facts to fit the narrative, and just one final thought, 235 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: imagine for a moment again, a thought experiment. Every fact 236 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: happened exactly the way it did, and Iran was run 237 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: not by crazy ayahtolas who say jewser apes and pigs, 238 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: but by white supremacists who say Blacks are apes and pigs. 239 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: Do you really think he would have done in Iranvian? 240 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: Do you really think that Barack Obama would have agreed 241 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: that they get to keep the first generation centri if 242 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: you just continue their research, get over one hundred billion 243 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 2: dollars to spend on insurgents killing black people. They get 244 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: to make arms in five years, missiles in as they 245 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 2: enrich uranium in ten fifteen years later, from the beginning 246 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: of the agreement its sunsets. They get all the enriched 247 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: uranium back. The experts say the breakout period maybe a 248 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: few weeks, maybe a few months. The Iranians say they're 249 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: going to take that and drop a bomb on black people, 250 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: kill all the black people. Do you really think that 251 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: Obama would have done a deal? Of course not. But 252 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: it was with a regime run by what is turned 253 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: people of color, and the people they're fighting are a 254 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: white group of privileged, the Jews, and now suddenly it 255 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: all gets scrambled, and you can convince yourself cognitive dissonance 256 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: that well, maybe the Iranians really hate us because of 257 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: that coop in nineteen fifty three, which is of course ridiculous. 258 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: The Iatola's Bastak whop as well, just for the same 259 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: reason we did. They didn't want to see a communist 260 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: running Uran anymore than we did. I'm not defending the 261 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: coup itself. I'm just pointing out that's not why they 262 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 2: hate us. It's absurd, you know, And you to convince yourself, well, 263 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: they'll take that one hundred billion dollars, they'll spend it 264 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: on their kids. They're gonna lie to love us. They're 265 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: people of color, they're fighting oppression, and you get all 266 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: this nonsense which has passed around his truth, and not 267 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: just in college campuses, but in mainstream media, in the 268 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: New York Times, in CNN, in the BBC by Christian Amenport. 269 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: But I have to say not by Bill Cunningham. And 270 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: that's why it's so important to listen to your show. 271 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: I went there. I went to Israel. You know, I 272 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: worked in Jewish law firms for a long time. Katzman, 273 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: logan and helper, And for some reason, I feel a 274 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: great affinity for the Jewish people. What they've had to 275 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: put up with the Ring of Fire was something which 276 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: has largely been eliminated except for what's happening in certain 277 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: parts of Iran, in which they won't give up, They 278 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: won't spend their money to help their own people. They 279 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: continue to have the outside power about to take you over. 280 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: It's been used throughout history. The policies of the Iranian 281 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: government is awful, it's terrible, it makes no sense. However, 282 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: it's not our problem. It's the Jews causing the difficulties. 283 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: It's the classic what alf Hitler used against the Jews 284 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: is not our policies that have failed, is the Jews 285 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: destroying us. And that same idea is our policies have 286 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: failed internally. We can't look at ourselves as having failed. 287 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: Got to blame someone else for it. And that's always 288 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: throughout history, the jew for causing the problems. And all 289 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: the Israeli wants to do is live in peace. Israel 290 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: is a multi dimensional I've seen the gay pride flag 291 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: flying in Jerusalem. I've gone to Catholic masses in Jerusalem, 292 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: I've seen twenty twenty five percent of the Kanesse are Muslims. 293 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: It is a Western style democracy. The truth will set 294 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: you free. But many, as you say, I'm not going 295 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: to change my opinion, So I changed the facts. The 296 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: Palestinians have been in charge of the gods for almost 297 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: twenty years, and that they freely elected Hamasta be their government. 298 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: Knowing I think what would happen in the long run, 299 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: Begging that Iran will get the nuclear weapon quickly. 300 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 4: Set it out over Israel. 301 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: All hell would break loose and then it's a culture 302 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: of death, and then they'll go to heaven with the 303 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: seventy two virgins. And I wish the rest of the 304 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: world could see the reality of what Israel faces and 305 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: what they've overcome. They've called the desert to bloom. It's 306 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: a multi functional, multi dimensional Western democracy and it's working. 307 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: And I'm sure in the months ahead, when peace finally 308 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: comes and Benjamin not to you know who's government's going 309 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: to be in trouble for not being prepared for what 310 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: happened on October the seventh. It's going to be a problem. 311 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: And I guess they're going to change governments. And I 312 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: pray the next government has his attitude when it comes 313 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: to defending our homeland. And the Professor Uri Kaufman book 314 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: Is America into Intofada. We've not even touched the surface 315 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: of the of what's happening on college campus is how 316 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: they're infiltrated and paid for by ignorance from the river 317 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: to the sea. They think it's the Mississippi and the Caribbean. 318 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: They have no idea it's Jordan. In other words, killed 319 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: the Jews the six million that remained. But Professor, today's 320 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: a big day. We'll see what happens down the road. 321 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: But thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show and 322 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: Ury Kaufman the book Is America into Fada? Once again, 323 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Professor, you're 324 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: a great American. I think you have it right, and 325 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: I think I have it right. 326 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more. And thank you so much for 327 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: having me. It's always a privilege to speak to you 328 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: and a pleasure to be on the show. 329 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 4: God bless America and God bless Israel. Thank you very much. 330 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: Let's continue with more news coming up next at Joe 331 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: Home of the Reds and the Bengals. News Radio seven hundred. Wow, Hi, 332 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: Billy Cunningham, Dave Keaton, hit the music, please hit the music. 333 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: Weather has changed to here in River City and we 334 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: love it. A little bit of rain. It's going to 335 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: get a little cooler. We need that too. Then good 336 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: weather returns on Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. I love 337 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: having on people like Yuri Kaufman, who's written books on 338 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: the subject. There's a posting about three hours ago on 339 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: the official ex account of Israel itself that says the following. 340 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: At this moment two years ago today, Israel faced the 341 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: darkest day in our history. 342 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 5: They wrote. 343 00:17:53,040 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: Today, on October seventh, Palestinian homosgy Hottist invaded our land, murdering, raping, 344 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: and kidnapping innocent men, women and children. Two years later, 345 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: we remember October the seventh, We remember the victims. We 346 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: pray for the return of the hostages still held in Gaza, 347 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: and we stand united against terror. A moss must be 348 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: dismantled to end this war. We remain committed to our 349 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 1: values now more than ever. Light will rise over darkness. 350 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: Quote unquote. Two years ago, approximately one thy two hundred Jews, Muslims, 351 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 1: Catholics and Christians all Israelis and foreign nationals were murdered, 352 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: and two hundred and fifty one were taken hostage. Including 353 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: in the group taken hostage was seventeen babies and toddlers, 354 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: all of whom have been killed by AMAS. 355 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 4: I might add. 356 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: The video goes on to summarize Israeli efforts to dismantle 357 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: amasa's leadership. I don't know about you, but maybe I'll 358 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: watch at some point some of the documentaries and actually 359 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: what happened in October the seventh, twenty twenty three. But 360 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: much like watching Charlie Kirk being shot down in cold blood, 361 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 1: it's hard to watch. But one thing I do know 362 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: is that Israel has the right to defend itself. The 363 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: charges of genocide are lies, damnable lies. It's not true. 364 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: You know how we were acted on December seventh, nineteen 365 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: forty one. We were not at war at that point 366 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: with Japan nor Germany. We were trying to stay the 367 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: hell out of the war because at that point it 368 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: was mainly in Asia with Japan invading China, and in 369 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: Europe it was of course Germany doing what Germany and 370 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: the Nazis did. Beginning of nineteen thirty nine, We tried 371 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: to stay out of it. We were sucked into it 372 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: only because of Pearl Harbor. Everything flipped. There were about 373 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: eighteen hundred service personnel and others killed at Pearl Harbor. 374 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: How do we respond to eighteen hundred being killed? We 375 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: declared war on Japan. Two days later, Hitler declared war 376 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: on us, and we declared war on Germany. And for 377 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: the next four years we were at a total war 378 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: for our existence. In that war, Americans directly and indirectly 379 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: killed tens of millions, the great majority who, by the way, 380 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: were civilians. Unfortunately, such as the fire bombings in Germany 381 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: and the nuclear devices set over Japan, and also the bombing. 382 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 1: But it was necessary to win the war, and there 383 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: was no between nineteen forty one and nineteen forty five 384 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: till the Armacist the Peace Treaty was signed in August fifteenth, 385 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: nineteen forty five. There wasn't nothing in the American media 386 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: about killing tens of millions of innocent civilians in order 387 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: to get at the Japanese government and the German government. 388 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: It wasn't a factor. It's simply that's what war is. 389 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: On nine to eleven, there was about two thousand Americans 390 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: were murdered in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, and the nation's capital, and 391 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: of course in New York City when the Twin Tires fell. 392 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: And at that point we more or less had been 393 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: at war with Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, but 394 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: not really that they were killing us. They had a 395 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: clear war on us. We didn't respond to nine to eleven. Well, 396 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: nine to eleven got our attention, and over the next 397 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: several years, one hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed 398 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan, in Iraq and still being killed, and there 399 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: wasn't met much protestation beginning in nine to eleven oh 400 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: one through the last few years and killing unfortunately unintentionally 401 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of civilians all over the Middle East. 402 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: Because we declared war on al Kada, we went after him, 403 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: and we did our duty. From Israel's perspective, when those 404 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: were twelve hundred Jews, mainly Jews, but also Muslims and 405 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: Catholics in Christian Israelis were slaughtered in the most horrible way, 406 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: that the same proportionality would be if two hundred and 407 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: fifty thousand Americans were killed by a terrorist attack. How 408 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: would we respond, For example, if the Mexican government was 409 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: taken over by Narco terrorists and then in an incursion 410 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: into Texas that they invaded to Dallas and killed, Say, 411 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, two hundred thousand Texans in Dallas, and 412 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: on the way out, kidnapped a whole bunch of students 413 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: from Baylor University and went back to Mexico and put 414 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: the students in the ground somewhere in holes in caves 415 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: in Mexico. How would we respond to that? What do 416 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: you think we would have done? Well, I can tell 417 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: you what we have done. We would have made Mexico 418 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: a parking lot. You can't do that. So proportionality, what 419 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: happened to Israel two years ago today would be the 420 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: same as two hundred and fifty thousand Americans being killed 421 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: and twenty thousand being taken hostage by the terrorists kept 422 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: under ground in tunnel somewhere near Guadalajara. We would have 423 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: declared war in Mexico, invaded Mexico, killed everyone involved, dug 424 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: up the terrorists, and shot them three times in the head. Heck, 425 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: I sound like a Virginia Democrat running for the attorney 426 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: general's position, and we would have won that war. When 427 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: you get our attention. We win the war World War two, 428 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: you got our attention, and the war on terror got 429 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: our attention for a while. Then Obama and Biden took over, 430 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: and things that were kind of million mouthed after that, 431 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: including the withdrawal from Afghanistan. 432 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 4: But that's a different story. 433 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: We were united in twenty oh one to two, three 434 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,719 Speaker 1: and four held George Bush. It was a lousy, lousy 435 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: candidate and a lousy president was re elected in twenty 436 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: oh four. Because we're still at the globe, we're going 437 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: to go get you for doing this to us. Well, 438 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: the Israelis have the right to go get them who 439 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: did this to us. And the proportionality of civilian deaths 440 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: compared to the deaths that we've been involved in is minuscule. 441 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: In fact, many independent groups have said the Israelis bend 442 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: over backwards to kill as few Palestinians civilians as possible 443 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: going after the terrorists who did that to them on 444 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: October the seventh, twenty twenty twenty three. And so they 445 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: are more careful than we ever wore when killing civilians 446 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: imbedded with the combatants and amass as you may know, 447 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: is a death cult. As we sit here this Tuesday 448 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: afternoon at twelve forty five pm. Almost two days have 449 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: gone by since Donald Trump drew the line in the sand, 450 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: gave them until eight pm on Sunday night to accept 451 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: the peace treaty, and time after time after time they 452 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: play for more time. All it takes is for Hamas 453 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: to say, we lost you one. Here are the living hostages, 454 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: here are the dead ones, and flow in the aid, 455 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: rebuild goss and may take ten years, and we surrender, 456 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: and they probably could get some sort of free passage 457 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: to cutter or somewhere else. The ones that are left 458 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: living in the ground like moles probably could get that too, 459 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: to get out the hostages, but they refuse to do so. 460 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 4: It is simple. 461 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: Normally, when you lose a war this badly, you simply 462 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: acknowledge reality and say we lost you one. We'll sign 463 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: some piece of paper and then the festivity. From our perspective, 464 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: it's over. But Amas doesn't want to do that. It's 465 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: one of the oddest movements in world history in which 466 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: they are a death cult. They want to die, They 467 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 1: want to spend time with those seventy two virgins committing 468 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: some active jihad and Benjamin Nintanyahu has arranged a meeting, 469 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: and instead of admitting reality and saying you know what 470 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: we lost, they want to put their facilities under schools, 471 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: under apartment buildings, under hospitals, under orphanages, under power plants 472 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: that they actually spend. They have five hundred miles of 473 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: tunnels like rats underneath all the important structures in Gaza. 474 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: So to get at them as an enemy combatant, the 475 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: Israelis provide notices that were coming and they have to 476 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: notify the civilians above them to get the all out 477 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: of dodge. They try their best not to kill civilians 478 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: because Hamas wants their own people to be killed. Hamas 479 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: wants Palestinians to be killed at the hands of the Jews. 480 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: Or if there's protest in Gossa, as there was in 481 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: Gaza City, in which average Gazans say, we can't take 482 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: this anymore, a Hamas get the hell out of here. 483 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: Hamas will come out of their holes and kill the 484 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: protest or shoot them in the head two or three 485 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: times and they're dead. Then they go back in the 486 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: ground torturing some of the twenty five living hostages that remain. 487 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 4: And so here we. 488 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: Are again, waiting again and again. 489 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 4: What will Hamas do? Won't they do? 490 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: At some point this madness has got to stop at 491 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: some point. It's sad when hostages are killed, as so 492 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: we had prisoners of war killed in the Hanoi Hilton 493 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 1: because of American bombing in Hanoi, North Korea, in North Vietnam. 494 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 5: It happened. 495 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: We don't intend it, but to win wars, certain ugly 496 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: things have to transpire. To make an omelant, a few 497 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: eggs have got to be broken, and it's sad. America 498 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: spends his time trying to avoid civilian deaths, and the 499 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: Jews Israel spends its time trying to avoid civilian deaths. 500 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: One how Maas demands that their civilians be murdered on 501 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: the altar of jihad. Some of the leaders in Cutter 502 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: living in luxury have said, look, we know what we 503 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: know what we're doing, but they're part of the movement. 504 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: If if a little baby is killed in Gaza, who's 505 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: who's a Muslim? That's part of the process. We have 506 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 1: to pay to kill the Jews. And when Yuri Kaufman 507 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: talked about the ring of fire all around until recently 508 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: Israel faced in the North Hespala they faced Syria. They 509 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: faced Iran on the on the east, down south. They 510 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: had the hoodies, and they had all the other Jihadis groups, 511 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: Islami jihad, et cetera. The ring of fire has been 512 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: put out, and with the help of the United States 513 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: of America, Iran cannot produce electricity. Now Iran is running 514 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: out of water. Iran is in Syria is difficulty. But 515 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: the motivating factor of those politicians is not the warmth 516 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: and welfare of their own citizens. It is the fact 517 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: that the circumstances you find in your life is not 518 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: caused by the failure of our policies, but rather by 519 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: the Jews. The Jews did it to us. It is 520 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: a nice artifact to use, but it's wrong. Iran is 521 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: in its current condition because the Islamic leaders of Iran, 522 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: beginning in nineteen seventy nine, did everything in its power 523 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: to kill the Infidel, to kill the jew and use 524 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: all the resources of that great country toward building bombs 525 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: and tunnels and arming all the Jihattist around the world. 526 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: And now they're paying the price. So yes, I hope 527 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: Hamas at some point soon says, okay, we lost, you won. 528 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: Here are the hostages. Here are the body bags, and 529 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: then the Jews are going to release about a thousand 530 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: gee hottists, many of whom are serving life sentences for 531 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: killing large numbers of people. Wire every one hostage, it 532 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: might be forty Islamic terrorists released by the Jews thinking Okay, 533 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: we'll get those guys later. And that's the name of 534 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: that tune, that the failure of the public policies of 535 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: Muslim governments are obscured by the hatred they all have 536 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: for Israel, and that we're not responsible for the failure 537 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: of our policies and Jordan, or in Lebanon, or in Yemen, 538 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: or in Iran or Iraq, because after all, the Jews 539 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: did it. All the Jews have done all this in 540 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: the Middle East, and therefore we're not responsible for the 541 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: failure of our public policies. Blame the jew And hopefully 542 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: more and more Arab countries will figure that out. So 543 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 1: sometime soon, along with Professor Yurik Kaufman and others, I 544 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: hope a Moss comes to its census. It doesn't help 545 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: to have all these terrorist groups funding protest on demand 546 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: across college campuses. It doesn't help to have large foundations 547 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: in this country funding the protest and the assaults on 548 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: ICE personnel. These are federal cops incentivized to be attacked 549 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: by democratic politicians. Then the stormtroopers arrive and box in 550 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: some of the ice vehicles or shoot at police officers. 551 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: That's what's happening, incentivized by big left wing democratic politicians 552 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: in Chicago, in Los Angeles and California and Portland. It's sad, 553 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: but it's the way things are. It's the manifestation of 554 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: true evil. So today we commemorate the second anniversary of 555 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: the slaughter of about twelve hundred Jews on October the seventh, 556 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: two years ago, and they're taking a two hundred and 557 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: fifty one hostages. A few remain. I'm sure they're in 558 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: terrible condition. And if I had a loved one living 559 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: in a hole somewhere in Gaza, i'd want almost anything 560 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: done and get them back. And I get that completely. 561 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, the Jews and Israelis are not the problem. 562 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: It is Islamic Jihat. It's the problem. Beginning in nineteen 563 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: seventy nine, the Middle East was plunged into darkness. Largely, 564 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: I hope more and more citizens and Lebanon's maybe has 565 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: figured it out, and Jordan has figured it out, and 566 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: maybe Iran will figured out. We live the way we 567 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 1: live in Iran because of the failure of our policies 568 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: and misuse of our moneies, not because of Israel. 569 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 5: Let's continue with more. 570 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: After one o'clock today, I have a guest here from 571 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: Heritage Foundation Heritage dot org about what's really happening happening 572 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: with the ice attack on federal cops and also who's 573 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: funding the whole process, and the fact that although the 574 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: media loves to talk about illegals cannot get medicaid, this 575 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: guest and others will talk about how it's done. Black 576 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: letter law is correct, it's in the books. Illegals cannot 577 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: get medicaid. But there's so many workarounds on that issue, 578 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: such as whether someone is not necessarily illegal maybe undocumented 579 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: it ought to be should citizens get government benefits because 580 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: undocumented carries a whole bunch of connotation. But we'll see 581 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: what happens down the road. Then after two o'clock today 582 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: will be the great Grover Norquist of Americans for tax reform, 583 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: and with the real goal of the left wing in 584 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: Congress is relative the taxes and things in that things 585 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: of that character. 586 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 5: So let's continue with more. 587 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: Plus of course, the Bengalley's this Sunday at four to 588 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: twenty five are going to be in Green Bay, and 589 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: after that in Tennessee, then after that in Pittsburgh. We 590 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: will see what happens and keep hope alive, because when 591 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: you look at think about the REGs and the Bengals, 592 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: all we have is hope. 593 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 4: Don't have much else. All we have is hope. 594 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: Bill cunning Him the Great American with you every day. 595 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: But say a prayer for those who have been killed 596 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: at the hands of one of the worst religious movements 597 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: in world history, Islamic Jihad. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven 598 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: hundred WLW, Bill Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, immigration 599 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: is a huge issue right now, and the President ran 600 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: on the issue of doing something were acted about the 601 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: illegal immigration migration into this country and all that foretells 602 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: And every time I listen to the media now we're 603 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: being told that the federal law prohibits the illegal immigrants 604 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: are getting medical care and hospitalization, which is on the 605 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: face is accurate, but actually it's completely inaccurate. There's so 606 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: many workarounds, especially the California Loop in which they're we're 607 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: paying for the illegal migration in this country is a 608 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: magnet into hospitals and emergency rooms. And if you've been 609 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 1: in an er recently, you see a lot of faces 610 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: in there that appears they're not paying a damn thing. 611 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: The rest of us are. And of course the Heritage Foundation, 612 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: Heritage dot org has been there for decades, which is 613 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: on the face is accurate, but actually it's completely inaccurate. 614 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: There's so many workarounds, especially the California loop in which 615 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,719 Speaker 1: they're we're paying for the illegal migration in this country 616 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: is a magnet into hospitals and emergency rooms, and if 617 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: you've been in an er recently, you see a lot 618 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: of faces in there that appears they're not paying a 619 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: damn thing. The rest of us are. And of course 620 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: the Heritage Foundation, Heritage dot org has been there for 621 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: decades now. Conservative principles and how they apply to this 622 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: great nation of ours. 623 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 4: And Laura Reese. 624 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 6: Actually has authority over DC, and as does the President 625 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 6: has unique powers here in DC that he doesn't in 626 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 6: other states and localities. So when we're talking about the 627 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 6: National Guard and bringing them into a city or a state, 628 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 6: as we're seeing the need for in cities like Portland 629 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 6: and Chicago. 630 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 7: Right now, as a general rule, the president needs to 631 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 7: have the governor of that state request the National Guard 632 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 7: to come in. However, if the president declares an insurrection 633 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 7: there because there is a riot or some sort of 634 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 7: violent activity that prevents the president from carrying out the law, 635 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 7: then the president can call the National Guard into a 636 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 7: city or a state without cooperation from the governor. 637 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: And is it limited to federal properties because right now 638 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: all hell's breaking loose in Portland and Chicago especially, and 639 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: in fact, the mayor Brandon Johnson, who is completely out 640 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: of his gord, is talking about issuing executive orders that 641 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: would bar CPD Chicago police from helping. But does it 642 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: only involve federal assets around ice facilities or federal courthouses 643 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: or could it involve other aspects of federal enforcement. 644 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 6: Well, for the interruption law, no, it doesn't have to 645 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 6: be federal. I mean recall for later when the riots 646 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 6: were happening there in the nineties after the Rodney King trial. 647 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 6: That was you know, national Guard just out on the 648 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 6: streets keeping the street safe. That wasn't about federal property 649 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 6: or federal agents. So no, not limited to that now 650 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 6: in current events, because we're talking about ICE trying to 651 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 6: carry out immigration enforcement of our immigration laws that Congress passed, 652 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 6: then oftentimes we have rioters appearing around ICE buildings and 653 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 6: attacking the agent. So you know the current situation. It 654 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 6: is often about federal property, but it doesn't have to 655 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 6: be right. 656 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: And so at this point you would like to think 657 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: the governors and the mayors would say, we could use 658 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: the help. I use the example of MARYE. Bowser, the 659 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: mayor of Washington, d C. Who was against it until 660 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: it happened. Now she seems to be in favor of it. 661 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: Plus the mayor of Memphis appears to be saying, Okay, 662 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: let's see what happens, but the governor says, let's do it. 663 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,240 Speaker 4: So it's not required. Is that correct? 664 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 2: Right? 665 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 6: It's always easier when the governor is asking for the help, 666 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 6: but it is not required. 667 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: And as far as the attacks on ICE, do you 668 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: have a sense that the rhetoric by the liberal democratic 669 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: politicians incentivize physical attacks on federal law enforcement? Is that 670 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: something you're examining absolutely? 671 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 6: I mean, how many times have democratic leaders called Ice Nazis, 672 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 6: the Gestapo, and on and on fascists they are inciting violence. 673 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 6: And if you think about California Governor Newsom demanding that 674 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 6: ICE agents not wear masks after ICE agents have been attacked, threatened, 675 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 6: had their family members docked and threatened, you know, of 676 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 6: course ICE agents are going to wear masks because they 677 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 6: don't want to be distinguished. Yet they've got, you know, 678 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 6: very clear markings and uniform that they are law enforcements. 679 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 6: The name of the individuals doesn't matter. And I don't hear, 680 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 6: you know, the governor of California or other Democrat leaders 681 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 6: telling Antifa to. 682 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 3: Remove their masks. 683 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 6: They're perfectly fine with the violent rioters being covered up 684 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 6: and not identifiable. So you know, that's typical for the left, 685 00:37:59,480 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 6: isn't it. 686 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 4: A ain't political act? 687 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 1: Because the state officials or the city cannot tell federal 688 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 1: law enforcement how to dress when they do their job. 689 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:08,479 Speaker 4: They can't. 690 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: In other words, this is simply political and no one's 691 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,439 Speaker 1: going to pay attention to Governor Newsom. 692 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 4: On this issue. 693 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 5: Correct, that is correct. 694 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: Let's talk about paid protesters. I've seen some YouTube videos 695 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: in which certain individuals show up at every riot, every protest. 696 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: The same person's fifty to one hundred strong might show 697 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: up for Gaza and other times they show up anti vacs, 698 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: and other times they'll show up for immigration issues, another 699 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: time they'll show up for Black Lives Matter. What is 700 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: the legalities of foundations and whether it's Iran or a 701 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: communist Red China or other organizations left wing groups by 702 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: Zuckerberg's ex wife who paid twenty million dollars to crowds 703 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: on demand, or other institutions whose job it is to 704 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: organize protests and maybe insurrections or riots and major cities. 705 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: And is that in violation of federal law? If the 706 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: same protesters change their garb and show up at different 707 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: kind of rallies, well. 708 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 6: If they're practicing free speech and not bleeding over to 709 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 6: incitement or violence, you know, again, as we just said, 710 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 6: it doesn't matter really what they're wearing, but if they're 711 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 6: crossing state lines and citing violence, carrying out violence, that 712 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 6: is where they are breaking the law. And ever since 713 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 6: the riots of twenty twenty, you know, we've been calling 714 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 6: for investigations into the organizers and the funders of these 715 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 6: clearly organized rioters, and finally now the Trump administration seems 716 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 6: to be doing that. 717 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: So if that becomes a matter of public I think 718 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: generally those of us involved in the news business understand 719 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: these are individuals that are paid to be there, but 720 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: they whip others into a froth. Then they get connected 721 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: to other left wing social as groups and then from 722 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: that begins all the all the illegal activities. And there 723 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: were other examples. For example, protesters in August were caught 724 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: on camera displaying at guillotine and clashing with police before 725 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 1: law enforcement fired and munitions to calm it down. And 726 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: so when individuals are not like I are not really 727 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: concerned with the issue, but they're bought and paid for, 728 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: that's that's a different issue. What role does sanctuary cities 729 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: play into this? And I watched the news conference the 730 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: other day with the Chief of Police of Chicago who 731 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: was outraged with the idea that his comps are not helping, 732 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: which I think wasn't true. But as far as the 733 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: issue sanctuary city sanctuary states, does the sanctuary city really 734 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: have an illegal status? 735 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 6: No, it doesn't. And recall, sanctuary leaders tried to have 736 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 6: tried to justify their refusal and the path to cooperate 737 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 6: with Ice by saying, while immigrations the federal matter, you know, 738 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 6: we stay in locals. We don't have immigration authority, so 739 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 6: we're not going to enforce immigration law. Now we've got 740 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 6: cities like Chicago and Portland obstructing ICE, and that's where 741 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 6: they cross the line. They are violating the law, and 742 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 6: it reveals the lies of their prior justification for sanctuary policies. 743 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 6: What they're really about is preventing immigration enforcements to facilitate 744 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 6: and prolong illegal immigration here because of their political power 745 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 6: depends on it for their calculations. 746 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: So much like kind of much like ordering Ice not 747 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 1: to have a mask. Also, sanctuary cities have no legal 748 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: status at all. 749 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 6: No, they don't. It's just a policy that they declare 750 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 6: or sometimes lie about, but practice and really it has 751 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 6: become an obstruction, a prevention of carrying out several. 752 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: Law and lower raceothe Heritage Foundation dot org. As far 753 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: as the illegal is, getting medicaid is an article of 754 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: faith and the mainstream meta talks about it all the 755 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,839 Speaker 1: time that it's illegal for illegals to get medicaid, and 756 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: that's I hear it on NBCCBS, ABC, NPR and headline 757 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 1: is despite the comments of the administration, illegals illegally cannot 758 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: get medicaid, And is that true? 759 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 5: Or false. 760 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 6: It's false. The last love to play word games. And 761 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 6: so recall Biden waives his lawnd over many populations worth 762 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 6: of millions of people and declared them to be here 763 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,240 Speaker 6: lawfully when they in fact were not, and then turns 764 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 6: around and would give federal benefits to those quote unquote 765 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 6: lawful aliens. And also medicaid works through the states, so 766 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 6: we know there are many states, including New York and California, 767 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 6: that do in fact give medicaid to illegal aliens here. 768 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 5: Those governors brag about it. 769 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 6: And California quickly went in the world read many billions. 770 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 3: Of dollars because of it. 771 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 6: So this is really a fiscal bottomless pit for these 772 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 6: states and the residents there. The citizens there need to 773 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 6: rise up and put political pressure against these governors and 774 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 6: leaders and say no, our tax dollars should be going 775 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,280 Speaker 6: to resources for us, not to people who aren't supposed 776 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 6: to be here. 777 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 1: You know, I heard it this morning on a national 778 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: broadcast that despite the statements that Donald Trump, illegals cannot 779 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: get medicaid. Can you describe in specificity the workaround by 780 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: California that gets to the same place that is illegals 781 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,240 Speaker 1: getting medicaid and federal funding for medical issues as opposed 782 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: to the black letter law that legals can't get it. 783 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: How does California work around that specifically, Well, Medicaid. 784 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 6: Is largely dependent on and uses the states for vehicles 785 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 6: for distribution. And so when you've got a state that 786 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 6: sets up distribution to the populations, it determines, and in 787 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 6: California's case, it has determined that it is going to 788 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 6: include anyone here, regardless of immigration status, in that population, 789 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 6: then those aliens can receive and do receive that funding. 790 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 6: And also, I mean you had mentioned emergency rooms when 791 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 6: illegal aliens here often don't have health insurance and treat 792 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 6: the emergency room as their primary care provider, while hospitals 793 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 6: need to be paid for that, and they know that 794 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,840 Speaker 6: they're not going to be paid by the illegal aliens, 795 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 6: and so they turn to the state and say, okay, 796 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 6: please pay this bill. And so that happens every single day. 797 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 6: And that is why one of many reasons why we 798 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 6: need to enforce our immigration laws so that hard earned 799 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,760 Speaker 6: tax dollars are going to US citizens and those who are. 800 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 1: Here lawfully, because we can't stop legal from going into 801 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: an er claiming I got you know, I got a 802 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: broken arm, I neat stitches, I have a fever, Give 803 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: me some medicine. 804 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 4: We can't stop that from occurring. 805 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 1: And that pass along goes first to the state, then 806 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,360 Speaker 1: they put it in some formula to send it to 807 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: the Feds, and the Feds pay that. And so that's 808 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 1: why we need to stop stop illegals getting into the country. 809 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: How much money are we talking about in California, roughly 810 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 1: that they pay for medical care for illegals? About how 811 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 1: much in the state of California. 812 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,919 Speaker 6: I don't know per head, but earlier this year they 813 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 6: California quickly went into the red three billion dollars and 814 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 6: then just a few months later that doubled to being 815 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,879 Speaker 6: in the whole six billion dollars, to the point where 816 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 6: then Governor Nathan had to apply the brakes a little 817 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 6: bit and narrow eligibility kind of the terms of giving 818 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 6: that money to illegal alien population. So you know, yet 819 00:45:55,400 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 6: again reality will smack a the communist the socialists in 820 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 6: the head every single time. 821 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,280 Speaker 1: And lastly, Laura raised as far as these other governmental benefits, 822 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,280 Speaker 1: so we're talking about medicaid paying for illegals directly or indirectly. 823 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 1: What about Section eight housing? What about food stamps, what 824 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 1: about free public education? What about free col cards? And 825 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 1: what the prescriptions are all paid for? That it isn't 826 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 1: just Medicaid getting paid to the illegals for their medical care. 827 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 1: What about the other federal benefits, the whole menu of benefits. 828 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: They are treated the same in Blue states as regular citizens. 829 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 1: And so is it true that illegals get food stamps, 830 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,760 Speaker 1: Section eight, housing, free prescriptions, all the things that regular 831 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 1: Americans get. Is that also being paid for by the taxpayer. 832 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,320 Speaker 6: That certainly was during the Biden administration. Now during the 833 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,839 Speaker 6: Trump administration at the federal level, they've been turning those 834 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 6: bigots off. The Secretary of Housing and Urban Development have 835 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 6: certainly turned off the Title eight housing for illegal aliens. 836 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 6: You will do their workarounds in Blue states again. But 837 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 6: all of this goes to show why you need to 838 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 6: prevent illegal immigration and to it fully enforced immigration laws 839 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 6: against those who are here illegally. Because every one of 840 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 6: these benefits, JEFF facilitates and prolongs and sinks the US 841 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 6: more into debt and deficit. And that's why we've got 842 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 6: to fully enforce the law. And that's why the last 843 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 6: is aiming all of their fire at ice to delay 844 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 6: and prevent deportations. 845 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 1: When you drive around your car and you hear on 846 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 1: the radio, as we all know, illegals cannot get Medicaid funding, 847 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 1: do you want to drive off the road? 848 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 6: I tend to yell at the radio a lot. 849 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Laura reso Heritage dot Org. And thanks 850 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 1: for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And the best 851 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: thing we have in this so called democracy is informed 852 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 1: citizens upon which they can cast and form the ballots 853 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,839 Speaker 1: and coming in the elections about four weeks away, and 854 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: a lot of these issues may be directly or indirectly 855 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,840 Speaker 1: on the ballot. But understand, the way to stop a 856 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 1: legal migration is out the Southern bord. It goes once 857 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: they get into the country and get status or don't 858 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,399 Speaker 1: get status, then all hell breaks loose financially. But Laura Race, 859 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Laura, 860 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,439 Speaker 1: you're a great American. Thank you very much. 861 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,399 Speaker 6: Well, thank you, thank you, Bill having on. 862 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 5: Thank you. 863 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: Well, let's continue with more news coming up. But when 864 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,760 Speaker 1: you hear in the news that legals don't get Medicaid benefits, 865 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: there's the answers, and hopefully you'll understand. Sometimes the media 866 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:38,280 Speaker 1: is not accurate. Bill Cunningham News Radio. Seven hundred Wow. 867 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,840 Speaker 8: Second down and sixteen after that six yard sack for 868 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 8: Trey Hendrickson, Placo fakes a handoff. 869 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 5: Here comes the rush, his pass over. 870 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 8: The middle and it is intercepted offer ricochet by Jordan Battle. 871 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 8: He's running it back at the twenty five and he'll 872 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 8: be tackled after getting down to the twenty five yard line. 873 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 1: Hell, hello, quiet, and I'm Skulls. 874 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:06,839 Speaker 5: I'm broadcasting. 875 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 4: Guys. You nice segment. We have a legendary Xavier coach 876 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 4: and my first coach. 877 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,800 Speaker 1: Before we get to Gordon Veterino, who has all the answers. 878 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 1: How many feet is it from home plate to second base? 879 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 1: How many feet is it across the football field? How 880 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 1: long are basketball courts? The parameters? But segment, the Bengals 881 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 1: just made an incredible trade. I'm gonna ask Gordon veteran 882 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: or whether he likes this trade or not. Tell the 883 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 1: American people what's going. 884 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:34,760 Speaker 4: On, Willie. 885 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 9: The Bengals and a very rare intra division trade have 886 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,840 Speaker 9: acquired quarterback veteran Joe Flacco today in a trade with 887 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,839 Speaker 9: the Cleveland Browns. What they're going to receive a six 888 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 9: round draft pick, while the Browns landed a fifth round 889 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 9: pick in the deal, and Flacco joins the Bengals two 890 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 9: days after. Zach Taylor was noncommittal about Jake Browning, who 891 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,720 Speaker 9: was thrown to eight interceptions, taking over for Joe Burrow. 892 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 1: Gordon Venteran, what do you think about the trade? You 893 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 1: like Joe Flacco? 894 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 4: Yes or no? 895 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,760 Speaker 1: It's got to be an improvement segment. 896 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 9: What do you say, seg I agree with the coach, 897 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,399 Speaker 9: no question about it, bringing am out here and let's go. 898 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 1: What does this mean for Jake the Snake? 899 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 9: Well, it means that he goes back to what he 900 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,879 Speaker 9: was doing. And uh, you know what backup quarterback is. 901 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 1: He going to start someday in Green Bay. 902 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 4: I don't know, Willie. 903 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,959 Speaker 9: Maybe though, maybe mister Flacco will be on a high 904 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,720 Speaker 9: speed lane fast track to learn some of the offense. 905 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 1: Gordon Venteran, you recall the seventh grade Saint Savior Grade school. 906 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 1: The year would have been something like nineteen sixty or 907 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 1: sixty one when you called me the quarterback of the 908 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,240 Speaker 1: Saint Savior Golden Bears, and one cheerleader was Penny Esbrock. 909 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:57,240 Speaker 5: Do you recall that unbelievable. That's that's impressive, very impressive. 910 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: Yes, it all began with you with basket off, football 911 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:01,280 Speaker 1: and baseball. 912 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 5: It was fun. It was fun. It's been a few 913 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 5: years though, hasn't it at least a couple? 914 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 1: Do you turn ninety today? 915 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 5: Or when? 916 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 1: Is it? 917 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 6: In? 918 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 5: About an hour? 919 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 1: An hour you'll be ninety sake, Give me some more 920 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,479 Speaker 1: sports and make it fast place. 921 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 4: This is fast breaking news. 922 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 9: Willie the stood report us of proud service of your 923 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 9: local teme Star heating and air conditioning dealers, Tamestar quality 924 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 9: you can feel in beautiful Milford, the home of one 925 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 9: main gallery called Baker Heating at five one three eight 926 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 9: three one fifty one twenty four. 927 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 4: Coaches Jack Monahan. 928 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 1: He dated Penny first and he's the a chief of 929 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 1: police in Amberley Village for many years. 930 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 4: Jack. 931 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 1: Did he ever arrest you going through Amberland Village? Did 932 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: he give you a pass? 933 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 10: It came close a few times, but no, say Please continue. 934 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,919 Speaker 9: Willie, And we also want to thank uh Lear's Prime 935 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,800 Speaker 9: Market for our lunch today. Deluxe Deli located in beautiful 936 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 9: downtown Milford, Learsprime dot com, Lears Prime Always and of course, 937 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 9: like I said, the Bengals have acquired Joe Flacco in 938 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 9: a trade with the Cleveland Browns. We'll see, if you know, 939 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,800 Speaker 9: We'll see if he goes on Sunday. 940 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 1: Yes or no segment. The fans desperate fans alone. Now 941 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm starting on Sunday. 942 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,799 Speaker 9: If they could get him on the fast track, will 943 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 9: he to give him some plays? 944 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 4: I say, flat goes in. He's in. I failed in Cleveland. 945 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: If you fail in Cleveland, why do we take him 946 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:22,719 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati? 947 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,919 Speaker 9: He can, he can only there's only an upside now, 948 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 9: only an upside. I think he's got a little bit 949 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 9: better players than Cleveland does. Really, Yeah, Gordon's offense. When 950 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 9: you began, who hired you at Saints? Save your grades? 951 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 1: Going to start at your career to culminated, and you 952 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 1: coaching Xavier baseball? 953 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 4: How did that all begin? That's been a long time. 954 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 11: I've got it. 955 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,839 Speaker 10: I have to think about that, think about it. There's 956 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 10: a lot of people involved with a lot of nuns. 957 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 10: A lot of nuns. 958 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 5: Well, there was what in every classroom. 959 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 1: I didn't have like a lay teacher until I went 960 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 1: to Deer Park High School as a sophomore. I never 961 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,360 Speaker 1: saw one. I don't know if nuns were male or female. 962 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 1: I have no idea. What the hell do you remember 963 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 1: who the priest was that year when you was the father, 964 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 1: Joseph Dowie. 965 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 5: I can't believe that that's. 966 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:10,839 Speaker 4: Everyone knows that though. 967 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: That's an easy one. His two assistance father McNicholas. 968 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,800 Speaker 5: I was away with, but you beat me to it, 969 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,720 Speaker 5: bit sag. Please continue with sports, Willie. 970 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,320 Speaker 4: Let's see baseball tonight. 971 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 9: The American League Division Series has the spotlight Seattle in Detroit. 972 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,920 Speaker 9: That's one one, Toronto and the Yankees, with the Jays 973 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,240 Speaker 9: up two games to none. 974 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,320 Speaker 1: Coach, who do you like now between Toronto and the 975 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 1: Yankees tonight? 976 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,800 Speaker 5: I go with the Yankees every time they play. 977 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,399 Speaker 4: Please continue, Willie. 978 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 9: It looks like the golfers high school golf is being 979 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,919 Speaker 9: delayed today because of the rainy weather around the tri State. 980 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 1: That's Roger Bacon, Ron Basevich and also Wayne Carucci. 981 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 9: Roger Bacon was tied first place what early on yesterday, 982 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 9: but they they are seventh overall after day one of action. 983 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 9: Madeira and Fenwick are second and third overall in my 984 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,240 Speaker 9: division two girls, Coach, did you ever coach golf? 985 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,359 Speaker 5: I played it a lot, but I've never coached it. 986 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 1: Please continue segment. It's all I got, So coach, let 987 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 1: me tell you a story. Okay, I'm a I went 988 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 1: to Saint Savior as a as a first grader. I 989 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 1: first met you when I was in the seventh grade, 990 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,480 Speaker 1: you might recall, and you came up with the name 991 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 1: Golden Bears. You know how you came up with the 992 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 1: name Golden Bears. I'll tell you the story. If you 993 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 1: don't remember it, I have no idea. Hell all r 994 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 1: At that point, there's a guy named im Hoff who 995 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 1: was playing basketball for the University of California, and you 996 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: liked the way im Hoff played basketball, and so you 997 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,399 Speaker 1: had to come up with a name. The principal came 998 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 1: to you, Sister Mary Ruth, and said, well, if we're 999 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 1: going to start a football program at Saint Savior's, we 1000 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,840 Speaker 1: need a nickname. And you said, well, I like this 1001 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,800 Speaker 1: im Hoff guy. One don't we call him the Golden Bears? 1002 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 1: And she said, that's a great name. So that's how 1003 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 1: the Golden Bears started and football. And I can remember 1004 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,440 Speaker 1: coming out for the football team and I played baseball 1005 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 1: a lot, and you had this little line us up 1006 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,800 Speaker 1: on the goal line. Gave everybody a football and said, 1007 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: who can throw it twenty thirty yards? I threw it 1008 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 1: like thirty five yards and you said what's your name? 1009 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 1: I said Bill Cunningham and you said you're the quarterback. 1010 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 1: So that's how I got that. You had some plays 1011 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 1: like forty six and twenty five crossbuck. You recall twenty 1012 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 1: five and forty six crossbuck. Those are the plays. 1013 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 5: That you gave me. 1014 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 3: Naked. 1015 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 1: How about the naked reverse? 1016 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 10: Remember that one in the Catholic school. 1017 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 5: You wouldn't use that. 1018 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 1: I little thing, well segment then naked reverse. 1019 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 9: Are you sure you can tell this story? Yes, you 1020 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 9: didn't take your clothes off or nothing. And again exactly 1021 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 9: at that point you didn't show anything. 1022 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 1: Okay, everyone lad into the left and I got the 1023 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,400 Speaker 1: ball and I pivoted and faked alan striker going around 1024 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 1: the left side. I faked the pitch and all of 1025 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 1: a sudden, I put the ball on my hip and 1026 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 1: ran the opposite direction with no blockers and on linemen 1027 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,280 Speaker 1: in front of me, and you called it the naked reverse. 1028 00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 1: Do you recall. 1029 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:02,480 Speaker 12: That petty on the sidelines on and she you know 1030 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 12: where she's singing aka laka ching akaalaka chong akaka ching 1031 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 12: Chong Chong Chong Chong booma a. 1032 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,719 Speaker 1: Boomah like a sis komba. Saint Savior, Saint Savior raw 1033 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 1: raw raw here. 1034 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 3: We call that. 1035 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,320 Speaker 5: One coach that I remember is. 1036 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 1: Remember her that little skirtchy hat on with that white blouse. 1037 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,279 Speaker 1: I was attractive, you know what I'm saying. 1038 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's funny. 1039 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,319 Speaker 10: Yeah, that's your memory is unbelievable. 1040 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,799 Speaker 4: I got that right, You got that right. 1041 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,680 Speaker 1: At that point in my life, my father was an alcoholic, 1042 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 1: terrible he left and when I hadn't needed a father 1043 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 1: figure in my life as a twelve. 1044 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 4: Thirteen, fourteen year old, that was you. 1045 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,840 Speaker 1: You had values, you had ethics, you had morals, and 1046 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,919 Speaker 1: living there in Deer Park, there were fathers in every home, 1047 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,839 Speaker 1: but I was one of the few homes that didn't 1048 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,400 Speaker 1: have a dead And so it was you, And it 1049 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,880 Speaker 1: was Jerry Wood, and it was Hal Pennington, and it 1050 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,760 Speaker 1: was Joe Hawk and uh And and Jerry and Hank 1051 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,719 Speaker 1: Has and Tom Griswold. Those were the father figures in 1052 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 1: my life. I played sports. I threw myself in a football, basketball, baseball, 1053 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 1: and golf. But the memories I have of you at St. 1054 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 1: Savior for those three years like the corners of my mind. 1055 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 1: I remember one time you stole me from Ev Banker 1056 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 1: at we were playing for the Thomas Funeral Home, and uh, 1057 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 1: you wanted to recruit me to play for Bernatt Pontiac. Yes, 1058 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 1: and so I had to go to Ev Banker's home 1059 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 1: and tell him that Gordon Veterino is stealing me in 1060 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 1: two or three other guys to leave the Thomas Funeral 1061 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 1: Home to go to Bernat Pontiac. 1062 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 4: Did you did you get an I O, my, he 1063 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 4: gave me things. 1064 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 5: Okay, I do not remember that. 1065 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 1: And then you have this. Here's the picture of the 1066 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 1: eighth grade boys team at Saint Savior in baseball. 1067 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 5: How many of those can you name? 1068 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 6: Now? 1069 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:52,920 Speaker 4: About half? 1070 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 1: About half? I see Jim Wannstrom, I see Alan Stricker, 1071 00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,920 Speaker 1: I see me Marty Schwenarski, and I have to look 1072 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 1: at the other one. It's a little blurry. I see 1073 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 1: Bobby Lake here. Remember, very good. And you've kept this 1074 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 1: for the last. 1075 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 5: Time I've had it ever since. 1076 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,200 Speaker 1: Sixty three years. 1077 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 4: That's it's been a while, sake, that's you haven't changed 1078 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:16,400 Speaker 4: a bit. 1079 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 10: Will you take it right in front of the home 1080 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,959 Speaker 10: that was right across the street from where the. 1081 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 1: School was right there. Yeah, coach, thank you ninety years. 1082 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 1: May you have ninety more years. Gordon Veterino? How many 1083 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 1: times have I used his name? What wom Gordon Veterina? 1084 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 5: Zillions? And here he had dollar? 1085 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 9: If he had had a dollar for every time you 1086 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 9: mentioned his name, he'd be you know. 1087 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,480 Speaker 1: I'd be rich a lot rich. Well, coach, thank you 1088 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 1: for coming in. I p ninetieth. Do you listen now 1089 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 1: and then. 1090 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 5: All the time? 1091 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 1: You ever, you don't miss much? 1092 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 5: Well, no, this is a this is a big thrill 1093 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:53,480 Speaker 5: for me. 1094 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,480 Speaker 1: And you're here with Mark and Mindy your son. I 1095 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 1: see many at Montgomery and and Montgomery. I get me 1096 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 1: a slabber rib every now and then. So, boy, you're 1097 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,920 Speaker 1: the best coach. Thank you for what you've done for me. 1098 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 5: Well, you're welcome, and I'm glad I did it. You 1099 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:09,560 Speaker 5: did it, yes, and. 1100 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,640 Speaker 1: You got the Xavier and you want it all. But Gordon, 1101 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 1: may you may you have great success. Without you, I 1102 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't be the kind of person I am today. 1103 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 5: Oh, that's nice for you to say that. 1104 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you, sech give me out of the stude. 1105 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:22,480 Speaker 5: WILLI and honor of the coach. 1106 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 9: We leave you with the immortal words of the Stooge Report. 1107 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 5: This is getting good. 1108 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 4: Stand Horde, Thank you coach. Congratulations on the life well live. 1109 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,439 Speaker 5: This was super there, buddy, Thank you very much. 1110 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,400 Speaker 1: A texture from Ron Raff from all Or High School 1111 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,960 Speaker 1: with an image. Oh yeah, he was texting me right now, 1112 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,720 Speaker 1: one of my coaches, one of them. 1113 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:43,440 Speaker 4: You taught them all. 1114 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, he was a good friend. 1115 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, continue to have a good life. 1116 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 5: Thank you. 1117 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 1: Let's continue with more segment. 1118 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 4: Thank you, yes, sir. 1119 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 1: On seven hundred WLW Nasian. 1120 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:56,880 Speaker 11: White keyword on our website. 1121 00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,919 Speaker 5: Deposit that's deposit, enter it now. 1122 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Bill Cunning him the great American of course, Grover Northwest 1123 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 1: is going to frequent guest of mind for many years, 1124 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,320 Speaker 1: if not decades. He's the founder CEO of Americans for 1125 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 1: Tax Reform. He is the underpinnings of what happened during 1126 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,919 Speaker 1: the Reagan and the Trump terms and returning more money 1127 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,160 Speaker 1: to the American people and chopping down the socialist inclinations 1128 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 1: the Democrats, which are only getting worse not better. Now 1129 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,720 Speaker 1: in the middle of the government shut down, and there's 1130 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 1: some effort by the media and the Democrats to go 1131 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,360 Speaker 1: back and redo the Big Beautiful Bill, which had lots 1132 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,400 Speaker 1: of tax really for average Americans, and also to make 1133 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 1: sure that the legals get medical care. And one thing 1134 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:43,920 Speaker 1: that drives me crazy, and I got to talk to 1135 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 1: Grover about this one, is every time the national media 1136 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 1: says the federal law prohibits Medicaid dollars going to illegal aliens, 1137 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 1: my eyes roll back in my head because in black 1138 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,640 Speaker 1: letter law that is true, but in practice it is 1139 01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:58,320 Speaker 1: not true. 1140 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 4: In fact, it's a damnable lie. 1141 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,360 Speaker 1: Illegals get lots of medical care paid for through that 1142 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 1: by the taxpayer, especially in Blue states. Grover Norquest to 1143 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 1: ATR Americans for Tax Reform, Welcome again to the Bill 1144 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,440 Speaker 1: Cunningham Show. And first of all, on the lie about 1145 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 1: the Feds, through Medicaid or other sources, not paying for 1146 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,760 Speaker 1: the medical bills of illegals, can you put that one. 1147 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 11: To rest bill. 1148 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 13: One of the ways I heard it explained by a 1149 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:30,160 Speaker 13: Democratic governor went as follows, what the bill really means. 1150 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,560 Speaker 13: What I mean when I say that illegals can't get it, 1151 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 13: is I mean undocumented can't get it. Now, somebody that 1152 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 13: comes across the border illegally and gets from the Biden 1153 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,240 Speaker 13: administration this little card that says sometime in the next 1154 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 13: six years, come back and we'll have a hearing. 1155 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 3: He has a document. 1156 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 13: Now he's there illegally, but he has a document. So 1157 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,720 Speaker 13: their shift from are you there illegally? 1158 01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:00,400 Speaker 3: Two? Do you have a document? A few's paper, guy's 1159 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:01,360 Speaker 3: as paper. 1160 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,960 Speaker 13: But he's never coming back to the court. The answer 1161 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,440 Speaker 13: is you're right. The law is very clear. 1162 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 3: People who enter this. 1163 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 13: Country illegally do get benefits that Americans pay for. There 1164 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:21,439 Speaker 13: are people who young males who could be working, who 1165 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,320 Speaker 13: choose not to work, who choose not even to look 1166 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:30,520 Speaker 13: for work, who get taxpayer benefits. Right, The requirement there 1167 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,280 Speaker 13: is very low, even for citizens. Okay, And by the way, 1168 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,640 Speaker 13: you can make up to like half a million dollars 1169 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 13: and still be getting welfare under this. This is ridiculous, 1170 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 13: and the other team throws up shafts. The Democrats want 1171 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:50,240 Speaker 13: to spend one and a half trillion billion dollars more 1172 01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 13: than the Republicans while whining about the deficit. 1173 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 1: So undocumented is not illegal according to Joe Biden's policies 1174 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 1: on document it means you don't have a piece of 1175 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 1: paper getting a hearing. Those are tens of millions of 1176 01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 1: people that are undocumented. Of course they're here waiting for 1177 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,600 Speaker 1: a hearing that will never take place, and so that's 1178 01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 1: the loophole. Plus California has another work around. Many Blue 1179 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 1: states had the same thing. Explain what Gavin Newsom did 1180 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 1: was a Calcare whatever that gave every human being legal 1181 01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 1: or illegal in the state of California free medical care 1182 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 1: and the taxpayer dime. 1183 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 4: Explain how that works. 1184 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,680 Speaker 13: Well, they do this, but they also the money just 1185 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:37,840 Speaker 13: goes to the hospital and therefore. 1186 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,160 Speaker 3: And then get spent. 1187 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:44,200 Speaker 13: It is the easy way to understand is they're lying. 1188 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,280 Speaker 13: They want more money and they want to be able 1189 01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,760 Speaker 13: to spend it as they wish, and they do not 1190 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:55,120 Speaker 13: wish to have the American people see that they are 1191 01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:59,360 Speaker 13: spending money on non citizens, on people who came here 1192 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 13: ill legally, on people who are supposed to be deported, 1193 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:09,560 Speaker 13: on some Americans who make hundreds and hundreds of thousands 1194 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:15,000 Speaker 13: of dollars but they get this free healthcare, and others 1195 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,360 Speaker 13: who simply refuse to work. 1196 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,200 Speaker 3: And could be working. They're not handicapped or anything. 1197 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:26,040 Speaker 13: So this was done to reduce the cost of Obamacare 1198 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 13: by cutting back on people who are abusing the system. 1199 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 13: And for the left, abusing the system means somebody owes 1200 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,920 Speaker 13: you money and is going to vote for you because 1201 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:39,960 Speaker 13: you gave it to them. They don't get any benefit 1202 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 13: out of giving some money to somebody who needs it. 1203 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 5: So the issue ought to be non citizens. 1204 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:49,760 Speaker 1: If you're a non citizen, non citizen, not documented, undocumented, legal, 1205 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 1: how about non citizens? If you put down on the 1206 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,520 Speaker 1: ballot grove an no request and say should non citizens 1207 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,240 Speaker 1: receive free government benefits? 1208 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 5: I would think that's a ninety ten issue. 1209 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:05,440 Speaker 1: But the media changes it to illegals undocumented instead of citizens. 1210 01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,560 Speaker 1: And I think most Americans kind of conflate citizens with 1211 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:15,680 Speaker 1: legal status and those have temporary protective status from Venezuela, 1212 01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,920 Speaker 1: Haiti or Cuba, with the idea of we don't want 1213 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,520 Speaker 1: to use our money to incentivize individuals that come here 1214 01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:27,640 Speaker 1: illegally and secondly by undocumented. As an American, I want 1215 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:34,000 Speaker 1: American citizens to have priority over illegals, undocumented, temporary protective status, etc. 1216 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,320 Speaker 1: But if you would ask the average American should we 1217 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:41,400 Speaker 1: give non citizens billions of dollars in our tax dollars? 1218 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:41,960 Speaker 4: Answers no. 1219 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,240 Speaker 1: If you say, well, what about undocumented? But they have 1220 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:46,960 Speaker 1: a hearing set that's different, isn't it. 1221 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:50,200 Speaker 3: Well, in California. 1222 01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:53,440 Speaker 13: This was actually on the ballot several decades ago, and 1223 01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:57,880 Speaker 13: overwhelmingly the people of California said, no welfare for people 1224 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,320 Speaker 13: who aren't citizens, and then they got some court to 1225 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 13: strike that down because for some reason. This is back 1226 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:09,720 Speaker 13: when the courts were much more left wing. So, yes, 1227 01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,760 Speaker 13: it is a serious problem. Here's the cheerful news. The 1228 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:18,760 Speaker 13: Republicans actually passed a budget and they put it forward 1229 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:26,080 Speaker 13: and they cut spending and they reduced taxes. There was 1230 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,720 Speaker 13: going to be a four trillion dollar tax increase on 1231 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:33,400 Speaker 13: the American people, and the Big Beautiful. 1232 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:34,320 Speaker 3: Bill stopped that. 1233 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:41,120 Speaker 13: So every single Democrat voted against protecting the American people 1234 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,160 Speaker 13: from a four And by that way, that's four trillion 1235 01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:45,360 Speaker 13: every decade. 1236 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,360 Speaker 3: So it's not like four trillion and you're done. 1237 01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:52,960 Speaker 13: Four trillion this decade, another four trillion next decade. That's 1238 01:06:53,040 --> 01:07:00,960 Speaker 13: a four hundred billion every year into infinity. Is what 1239 01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:05,760 Speaker 13: Trump and the Republicans said, this will not happen. The 1240 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,640 Speaker 13: Democrats wanted to raise taxes on people with children. They 1241 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,880 Speaker 13: wanted to raise taxes on the standard reduction that people 1242 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,480 Speaker 13: get to take. But by reducing the standard reduction, they 1243 01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,000 Speaker 13: wanted to raise taxes on small businesses. They wanted to 1244 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,520 Speaker 13: raise taxes on people who get social Security. They want 1245 01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:25,560 Speaker 13: to raise taxes on businesses in general, on and on investment, 1246 01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,840 Speaker 13: on job creating investment. They wanted to raise taxes. And 1247 01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,200 Speaker 13: the Republicans said no, and Trump signed the bill and 1248 01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,360 Speaker 13: they didn't have the votes to stop it because they 1249 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,520 Speaker 13: lost the election because they were running left wing crazy. 1250 01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,760 Speaker 13: And now they're sitting back, going, we will blow up 1251 01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,720 Speaker 13: everything and shut down the government for two months. 1252 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,280 Speaker 3: Remember this in two months is all we have to 1253 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 3: do in the budget. 1254 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:50,960 Speaker 13: This is a fight over what do we do for 1255 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,200 Speaker 13: two months. Republicans say, how about status quote for two months? 1256 01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,600 Speaker 13: We just get that done, and the Democrats go, no, 1257 01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,840 Speaker 13: but we won't talk to you about doing something other 1258 01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:01,280 Speaker 13: and status crow, len't. 1259 01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:05,240 Speaker 3: You give us one and a half trillion. 1260 01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:10,680 Speaker 13: Dollars of average Americans paying taxes for the Democrats? And 1261 01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,120 Speaker 13: the Democrats want to spend it themselves, so they don't 1262 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,360 Speaker 13: have the votes to keep to race access. They don't 1263 01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,439 Speaker 13: have the votes to race spending, but they want to 1264 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,240 Speaker 13: say we will shut the government down. 1265 01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,400 Speaker 3: Hold it in the movies. 1266 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,559 Speaker 13: When they hold somebody hostage and they will shoot the hostage. 1267 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,360 Speaker 13: If you don't let us have a plane to leave 1268 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,800 Speaker 13: the country. Okay, that's what the Democrats are doing. And 1269 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 13: then they're sitting there in the bank with a gun 1270 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,240 Speaker 13: to the teller's head, going the Republicans vade us do this. 1271 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,599 Speaker 1: The legendary Grover Norquest I had on Senator Ram Paul 1272 01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 1: about a week ago, and also Congressman Tom Massey, and 1273 01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,920 Speaker 1: those two guys said both said the same thing. Donald 1274 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:55,320 Speaker 1: Trump wants to spend an additional two trillion dollars every 1275 01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:59,599 Speaker 1: year and the Democrats want to spend three trillion dollars 1276 01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,120 Speaker 1: every year. How do you respond to Rand Paul and 1277 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:07,120 Speaker 1: Tom Massey that voted no against Trump because they want 1278 01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,360 Speaker 1: to balance budget the penny plan? How do you respond 1279 01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:09,680 Speaker 1: to that. 1280 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:16,280 Speaker 13: One, Well, their votes no didn't reduce spending by a penny. 1281 01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,160 Speaker 13: In fact, you worried that we were so close in 1282 01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:21,639 Speaker 13: the House that there. 1283 01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,160 Speaker 3: Are no votes. In the past have. 1284 01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:28,400 Speaker 13: Forced us to go get Democrat votes, which then cost 1285 01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,320 Speaker 13: you a lot of money. This happens more often at 1286 01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,559 Speaker 13: the state level and at the federal level. But I'm 1287 01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 13: all in favor of what Ron Paul did. When the 1288 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,519 Speaker 13: Republicans had thirty extra votes in the House. He would 1289 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,680 Speaker 13: stand there and go, I'm the North Pole, or not 1290 01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:45,479 Speaker 13: the north pole, the north star, and here's perfect here's 1291 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,040 Speaker 13: what I think perfect would be. And I probably agree 1292 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:49,320 Speaker 13: with him on most of his. 1293 01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,680 Speaker 3: Definition of what perfect budget would look like. 1294 01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,600 Speaker 5: Yes, however, perfect. 1295 01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:58,200 Speaker 13: Budget is not on the menu today. We don't have 1296 01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,640 Speaker 13: the votes to get there. So what we want to 1297 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:06,280 Speaker 13: do is take every step in the right direction we can. 1298 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:10,640 Speaker 13: And this big, beautiful bill was a step in reducing 1299 01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,479 Speaker 13: the size and scope of government from where it was heading. 1300 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,160 Speaker 13: It was heading way up into the sky, and they 1301 01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,120 Speaker 13: brought it down. We need to do this every year, 1302 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,760 Speaker 13: again and again and again, and I get the frustration. 1303 01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,200 Speaker 13: How can we have to do this all the time? 1304 01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:31,120 Speaker 13: How come the government can't be reduced? The Democrats didn't 1305 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,760 Speaker 13: build this monstrosity in a year or two. It was 1306 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:39,000 Speaker 13: sixty two years between nineteen thirty two and nineteen ninety 1307 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:44,599 Speaker 13: four when the Democrats in two two year periods thirty 1308 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:48,200 Speaker 13: four to thirty six New Deal and then. 1309 01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:52,760 Speaker 3: Sixty four to sixty six great society that's at the 1310 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:53,880 Speaker 3: federal government was. 1311 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:58,719 Speaker 13: Invented, created, built, you know, the seeds planted that grew 1312 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:03,479 Speaker 13: into great trees to increest that and now we're trying 1313 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 13: to undo that expensive damage. 1314 01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,439 Speaker 3: It's not easy. It takes time. 1315 01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:13,479 Speaker 13: We have narrow majorities, and whenever somebody goes off and 1316 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,360 Speaker 13: says I want to give speeches instead of working to 1317 01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,040 Speaker 13: reduce the size the government, I go, you know, if 1318 01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:22,919 Speaker 13: we had a thirty vote majority, that would be fine. 1319 01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,920 Speaker 13: I never wind it. Ron Paul, when he would take 1320 01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,920 Speaker 13: that approach, Gingrich used to say, okay, we need everybody's volt. 1321 01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,360 Speaker 13: There's the Ron Paul exception. And people go, how do 1322 01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,280 Speaker 13: I get one of the Ron Paul exemptions? He said, 1323 01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:40,320 Speaker 13: vote against federal funding to fight floods when your district 1324 01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,679 Speaker 13: is underwater, then you seek him, Then you get the exemption. 1325 01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,120 Speaker 1: You know that's a great answer. Because you grow up 1326 01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,560 Speaker 1: in North Qost. I can remember Ronald Reagan saying, you 1327 01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,640 Speaker 1: get eighty percent of what you want, we'll work on 1328 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,439 Speaker 1: the other twenty percent later. And so in senat Iran 1329 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,800 Speaker 1: Paul's case, there's flex a little bit of flexibility in 1330 01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,840 Speaker 1: the Senate, and Tom Massey's case, there's no flexibility in 1331 01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,040 Speaker 1: that house. There were one vote away from this thing 1332 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,800 Speaker 1: going down in flames, in which case all hell would 1333 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,439 Speaker 1: have broken loose. So at this present time. We're in 1334 01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,640 Speaker 1: the middle of this government shutdown and the Democrats are 1335 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,120 Speaker 1: shutting down the government because they want to provide premium 1336 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,400 Speaker 1: support under Obomita care for those making five hundred thousand 1337 01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,639 Speaker 1: dollars a year. They went NPR and PBS to get 1338 01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,720 Speaker 1: five hundred million dollars immediately. 1339 01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:23,479 Speaker 4: They want to. 1340 01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:27,679 Speaker 1: Repeal the Big Beautiful Bill, which is repealing the tax 1341 01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:31,040 Speaker 1: on tips over time in Social Security. But the media 1342 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,360 Speaker 1: doesn't point out those things, do they No? 1343 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:38,080 Speaker 13: And the Democrats say, oh, it's about healthcare, okay, And 1344 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,720 Speaker 13: the answer is no, it's not. It's a trillion and 1345 01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,920 Speaker 13: a half dollars A piece of that is quote unquote healthcare. 1346 01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,880 Speaker 13: And again much of that is healthcare for people who 1347 01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:52,479 Speaker 13: aren't citizens. But as you point out, they want to 1348 01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,600 Speaker 13: give money to public broadcasting. You know, a bunch of 1349 01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,200 Speaker 13: rich people have fun with it with TV shows that 1350 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:04,439 Speaker 13: they like at the Hoyt Feloy that you know, don't appreciate. Well, 1351 01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,519 Speaker 13: they can pay for it them. Sure, you want to 1352 01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,519 Speaker 13: go to the symphony, pay for the symphony. Don't steal 1353 01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,120 Speaker 13: money from taxpayers to pay for your symphony. 1354 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,120 Speaker 4: All right, how do you see this thing? 1355 01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,639 Speaker 1: Because right now it appears we have an unmovable object, 1356 01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:21,559 Speaker 1: which is Donald Trump meeting the irresistible resistible force. 1357 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:25,080 Speaker 4: Chuck Schumer. We're several days into this thing. 1358 01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,400 Speaker 1: The last shut down with Trumpster was about thirty five days, 1359 01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,840 Speaker 1: about seven years ago. The next paychecks not to be 1360 01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:37,000 Speaker 1: paid out will be will be the fifteenth of this month. 1361 01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,760 Speaker 1: The confederal workers were paid on the thirtieth. Now the 1362 01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,800 Speaker 1: fifteenth is coming up. How do you see this playing out? Well, 1363 01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,880 Speaker 1: the last thirty five days where Donald Trump collapsed, which 1364 01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,759 Speaker 1: I think is unlikely. What Chuck Schumer bow his head 1365 01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,599 Speaker 1: and acknowledged the reality. How do you see it playing out? 1366 01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:57,840 Speaker 13: Groover Northquist, Well, what the Trump administration has said they're 1367 01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,920 Speaker 13: going to do is layoff extraeous workers. 1368 01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:02,720 Speaker 3: Remember they said, we want. 1369 01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,880 Speaker 13: The workers, the necessary workers to come to work, but 1370 01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:09,479 Speaker 13: the non necessary workers not to come to work. I 1371 01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:13,599 Speaker 13: got a suggestion, why are we paying the non necessary. 1372 01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:14,679 Speaker 3: Workers at all in the first place? 1373 01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:20,120 Speaker 13: And so we need to reduce the total number of 1374 01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:23,560 Speaker 13: federal employees, the number of people even at the Pentagon, 1375 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:27,519 Speaker 13: in the civilian employees of the Penagon, not the guys 1376 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:31,120 Speaker 13: who with to carry rifles and fly planes, but the civilians, 1377 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,679 Speaker 13: the bureaucrats, who manage it. 1378 01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:35,080 Speaker 3: The Controller of the. 1379 01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:38,160 Speaker 13: Pentagon said, they're seven hundred thousand. We only need five 1380 01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:42,120 Speaker 13: hundred thousand. We did not downsize the bureaucracy when we 1381 01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:46,480 Speaker 13: downsize the military after the Soviet Union broke into fifteen pieces. 1382 01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,920 Speaker 13: Just they're a thousand miles further back than they used 1383 01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:50,880 Speaker 13: to be. You don't need the same size army, but 1384 01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,880 Speaker 13: somehow we got the same bureaucracy. And the Pentagon is 1385 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,640 Speaker 13: probably the least of our worries in terms of how 1386 01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:00,120 Speaker 13: it's out much waste there. It's because they do some 1387 01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,840 Speaker 13: pretty serious work, but the rest of the government is 1388 01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 13: very expensive. When they hire people and hire people, they 1389 01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:14,559 Speaker 13: don't fire people who misbehave they They used to have 1390 01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,679 Speaker 13: unions everywhere. Trump has gotten read of the unions anywhere 1391 01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:21,160 Speaker 13: that national security is involved, which was the law. I mean, 1392 01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:24,640 Speaker 13: any president could have done that up until now. The 1393 01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:26,680 Speaker 13: Bushes could have done that, they just chose not to. 1394 01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:31,680 Speaker 13: Obama could have done that. But Trump said at the 1395 01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,519 Speaker 13: VA people were dying because people go, oh, we worked 1396 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,320 Speaker 13: to the contract. We can't be bothered to get out 1397 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,960 Speaker 13: of bed just because somebody is too sick. And people 1398 01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,679 Speaker 13: were dying, and he said, you can't do this, You're bad. 1399 01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,000 Speaker 13: That's bad for national security. No union at the v 1400 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:50,639 Speaker 13: no union at the Pentagon, no union at TSA, all 1401 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,840 Speaker 13: of these places where it really matters to be able 1402 01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,759 Speaker 13: to quickly change guys. 1403 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,479 Speaker 3: Everybody focus over here. Oh no, no, The union says, 1404 01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,400 Speaker 3: we don't have to No. No, the love we have 1405 01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:01,000 Speaker 3: the union. 1406 01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,479 Speaker 13: If they're going to get in the way of saving lives, 1407 01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:07,240 Speaker 13: can't hepp and Trump shape. And the law says, the 1408 01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:11,080 Speaker 13: president alone makes this decision, not the president in Congress, 1409 01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,320 Speaker 13: not a judge, not a bureaucrat, not an expert. The 1410 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:19,439 Speaker 13: President decides. So that's ironclad. And we really need to 1411 01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:23,439 Speaker 13: be saying, let's reduce that. When somebody leaves, let's not 1412 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,160 Speaker 13: be replacing all of them. Let's figure out which ones 1413 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,000 Speaker 13: need to be replaced. There is an awful lot of 1414 01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:32,360 Speaker 13: money to be saved by reducing the size of the bureaucracy. 1415 01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,599 Speaker 13: And we have two months to take advantage of that 1416 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:39,439 Speaker 13: and do some more a great deal of that now 1417 01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,360 Speaker 13: and over time, we need to make the commitment to 1418 01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:43,799 Speaker 13: slim down the government. 1419 01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,000 Speaker 3: Every team wants to raise patent, the. 1420 01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:50,080 Speaker 13: Government gets stuck and and expensive, and they go, oh, 1421 01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,960 Speaker 13: you know, that's a good argument for taking more money 1422 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:53,639 Speaker 13: from workers. 1423 01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,960 Speaker 3: No, it's not. No, it's an argument for a diet 1424 01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,000 Speaker 3: for the federal government. 1425 01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,040 Speaker 4: Oh, we have to run and go over a nore question. 1426 01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,960 Speaker 1: You're the best at the us ATR Americans for tax Reform, 1427 01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:05,160 Speaker 1: and I hope Russell Vaught, director of Management and Budget, 1428 01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:06,599 Speaker 1: is going to do what needs to be done. But 1429 01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,479 Speaker 1: Grover Norquist, you're a great American. And thanks for coming 1430 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,599 Speaker 1: on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Grover Bell Bell, 1431 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,040 Speaker 1: thank you for having me. God bless you. Let's continue 1432 01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,040 Speaker 1: with more news coming up. You're home of the Reds 1433 01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:21,559 Speaker 1: and Bengals. News Radio seven hundred WLW. I've never seen 1434 01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:26,080 Speaker 1: anything like this in Israel. The massive rocket fire continuing 1435 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:30,839 Speaker 1: from Gaza. This is clearly a coordinated operation by Hamas 1436 01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,160 Speaker 1: Islamic Jahad and other factions inside the strip. But you 1437 01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:37,320 Speaker 1: can see here significant damage to the southern part of 1438 01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:41,559 Speaker 1: this country. Sirens sounding in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv. Days 1439 01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:42,559 Speaker 1: of war are ahead. 1440 01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:51,519 Speaker 6: He Hello, quiet, and I'm spokes I'm broadcasting. 1441 01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:58,120 Speaker 1: Rocky. About an hour ago, ninety year old, we had 1442 01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:01,840 Speaker 1: in my first formal Coach Gordon in Vetterino legend you've 1443 01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,599 Speaker 1: had me talk about him quite often. 1444 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:05,639 Speaker 5: He is the legend to get on the. 1445 01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:10,160 Speaker 14: Team, Like he tells everything you know about sports, politics, life. 1446 01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:11,680 Speaker 5: Now look at him, now look at me. 1447 01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:15,200 Speaker 1: I thanked him because I needed that any formation of 1448 01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,200 Speaker 1: my life. We'd have to take a test to get 1449 01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,920 Speaker 1: on the field. How many feet is it from home 1450 01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:23,280 Speaker 1: plate to second base in a direct line? Seg from 1451 01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,840 Speaker 1: home plate to second base in a direct line? I 1452 01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:29,200 Speaker 1: still know a long one twenty seven hundred twenty seven 1453 01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:33,160 Speaker 1: feet three and three inches. You should know how many 1454 01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,040 Speaker 1: inches and how many feet from rubbers the pitcher's rubber? 1455 01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,080 Speaker 1: What's a single? What's a double? What's a fielder's choice? 1456 01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:43,839 Speaker 1: When should you sacrifice bunt? How do you catch a baseball? 1457 01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:44,240 Speaker 5: Show me? 1458 01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:46,880 Speaker 1: And then football? How wide is the field? 1459 01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:47,479 Speaker 4: Not how long? 1460 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,280 Speaker 1: How wide is the field? And what's the first down? 1461 01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,439 Speaker 1: And there are six plays you must master? 1462 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:53,080 Speaker 4: What are they? 1463 01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,839 Speaker 1: He had the form he was like Bill Walsh before 1464 01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:58,839 Speaker 1: Bill Walsh existed. 1465 01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:02,960 Speaker 14: That's great because I know from coaching youth like, don't 1466 01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,520 Speaker 14: assume they know stuff because they likely don't. 1467 01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:09,439 Speaker 4: You know, like how why it's a basketball court? How 1468 01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:10,000 Speaker 4: long is it? 1469 01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:10,559 Speaker 5: He said? 1470 01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:12,760 Speaker 1: Unless you know the rules, you can't play the game. 1471 01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:16,519 Speaker 1: I still remember forty six crossbuck, twenty five crossbuck, then 1472 01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:17,400 Speaker 1: naked reverse. 1473 01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:18,639 Speaker 4: We did all those. 1474 01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:20,800 Speaker 14: Things, see what I'm saying, and naked on the field 1475 01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:22,080 Speaker 14: and naked not exactly. 1476 01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,400 Speaker 1: What he said, and then he mentioned what my wife, 1477 01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:25,799 Speaker 1: my cheerleader girlfriend. 1478 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:26,840 Speaker 5: Boy, it was on. 1479 01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to say that. She was only fourteen 1480 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,439 Speaker 1: at the time, but I saw that little girl doing 1481 01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,360 Speaker 1: those cheers and that little plaid skirt and that white blouse. 1482 01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:39,160 Speaker 14: That was it right there, right there. 1483 01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:40,280 Speaker 5: What do I gotta do? 1484 01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:41,559 Speaker 11: Give you that? 1485 01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:42,200 Speaker 1: Right there? 1486 01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,679 Speaker 4: The big man on campus. And I was quarterback, of course, 1487 01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,240 Speaker 4: and picked of course. 1488 01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:49,360 Speaker 1: He lined up on in the first day of practice, 1489 01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,439 Speaker 1: and I ever played football, never touched the football. Line 1490 01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,040 Speaker 1: them up and said who thinks they can throw football? 1491 01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:57,400 Speaker 1: And if by seven of us said whoever throws at 1492 01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,720 Speaker 1: the farthest is the quarterback? I got up and throw 1493 01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:01,840 Speaker 1: it four. You are, I said, you're the quarterback, Boom, 1494 01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:03,920 Speaker 1: And then we taught me seven or eight plays. I 1495 01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,280 Speaker 1: taught the backfield. Jack Monahan, the chief of police in 1496 01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:09,519 Speaker 1: Emberly Village, and Bobby Lake, you remember all those guys 1497 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,679 Speaker 1: legends and how he named the Golden Bears. He also 1498 01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:16,720 Speaker 1: took like Federal Savings alone to the national title with 1499 01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,600 Speaker 1: Jeff Beckham and Ken Griffy was on the team, and 1500 01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:20,439 Speaker 1: he was the coach that. 1501 01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,320 Speaker 14: He coached like a high level of summer league baseball team, 1502 01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:24,720 Speaker 14: high level and then he went to his age or 1503 01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,000 Speaker 14: coach there for many years after I left. 1504 01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:30,200 Speaker 1: Joe Hawk, those are the days of Menroo. He got 1505 01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:33,400 Speaker 1: a hairy ass. He was a hair ass man, that's all. 1506 01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:36,479 Speaker 1: He fell off the chair too, fell off the chair 1507 01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,040 Speaker 1: right there, ninety years old. 1508 01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:40,559 Speaker 3: The chair. 1509 01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:41,559 Speaker 5: He fell off the chair. 1510 01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,160 Speaker 1: He's trying to sit in that chair on rollers, so 1511 01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:49,160 Speaker 1: he sits in the chair. What about Joe Flacco? How 1512 01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:50,680 Speaker 1: long will it take? What does he have to do? 1513 01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,200 Speaker 1: Is he going to start? I need the information right now. 1514 01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,640 Speaker 14: I guess my initial thing is, you know, he's not 1515 01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:57,360 Speaker 14: very mobile for an offensive line. 1516 01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:59,840 Speaker 11: That's a little that struggles a little bit. 1517 01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:04,120 Speaker 14: Not that was my first initial thought. For God's sakes, 1518 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:10,080 Speaker 14: He's got experience a lot of it, he's you know, 1519 01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,280 Speaker 14: so I think that that's the ones in the job. 1520 01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,639 Speaker 14: I think the Bengals said, well, we tried the backup route, 1521 01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,240 Speaker 14: tried going with a guy that doesn't have experience. 1522 01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:19,360 Speaker 11: I mean one thing. 1523 01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,160 Speaker 14: If you do watch Flacco like as it did in 1524 01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,920 Speaker 14: the first game the Bengals played, I thought, he knows 1525 01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:26,760 Speaker 14: where to go with the ball again, because he's seen 1526 01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:28,479 Speaker 14: every coverage, he's seen every blitz. 1527 01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:30,639 Speaker 11: He's not gonna be surprised. But all that that's important. 1528 01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:32,840 Speaker 14: You gotta know that you got to know where the 1529 01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:34,759 Speaker 14: guys are and you got to have the quick decision 1530 01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,880 Speaker 14: making him when the ball has got to go to him. 1531 01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:38,840 Speaker 1: Don't have hope at this a little bit of hope 1532 01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:39,439 Speaker 1: for Green Bay. 1533 01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:40,000 Speaker 5: I think. 1534 01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,120 Speaker 14: Look, I think if you're a fan, you're at least saying, well, 1535 01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,439 Speaker 14: the Bengals aren't throwing away this season, which you can't 1536 01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,439 Speaker 14: because the Ravens are bad at one and four, the 1537 01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:52,040 Speaker 14: Browns are are bad. The Steelers are not world beaters. 1538 01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:56,040 Speaker 14: The Bengals are one of only what one team that's yeah, 1539 01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:59,519 Speaker 14: the only team that's beating the Jaguars. Yeah, right, So 1540 01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:00,960 Speaker 14: I mean a few things you look. 1541 01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,840 Speaker 11: At it and say, is as bad as it is 1542 01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:04,920 Speaker 11: not totally out of this thing. 1543 01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,479 Speaker 1: And then when they played the Browns and Bengals played, 1544 01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,639 Speaker 1: Joe threw for like two hundred and fifty some yards and. 1545 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,880 Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean remember the second half of that game, 1546 01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:14,800 Speaker 14: he was dissecting the Bengals defense. 1547 01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,360 Speaker 11: That guy, the guy dosn't miss that field goal? 1548 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,160 Speaker 1: So why would the Browns trade him for a bag 1549 01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:19,439 Speaker 1: of ball? 1550 01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:22,880 Speaker 11: Because they had like seventeen quarterbacks from their team, and. 1551 01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,960 Speaker 4: They're in, they're becomes a backup, right Yeah. 1552 01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,960 Speaker 14: And they're they're like a developmental kind of team. They're 1553 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,519 Speaker 14: not gonna win any more anyway. Right, they never go 1554 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:32,479 Speaker 14: in and never go anywhere. Yeah, so what the hell? 1555 01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,600 Speaker 14: They're perpetually rebuilding. 1556 01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,360 Speaker 1: At least three times. We've been to the super Bowl 1557 01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,759 Speaker 1: three times in fifty six years. Three times. 1558 01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:40,120 Speaker 5: It's not bad. It's not bad. 1559 01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,800 Speaker 1: It isn't I think that's bad. But maybe I'm wrong. 1560 01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:45,200 Speaker 1: The Browns have never last time they won anything. 1561 01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:46,599 Speaker 5: Compared to the Browns, it's not bad. 1562 01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:49,200 Speaker 1: Nineteen sixty four. You might remember Frank Ryan. 1563 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,040 Speaker 11: Just a couple of years after Gordon Vetterino Veterina. 1564 01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:54,599 Speaker 1: In fact, in fact, Paul Brown learned a lot from 1565 01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,840 Speaker 1: Gordon Vetterino, and that's how he got the job here 1566 01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,679 Speaker 1: and he became the owner and sold yeah, et cetera. 1567 01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:04,080 Speaker 1: But think so, you have more hope with Flacco than 1568 01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:04,920 Speaker 1: with Jake the Snake. 1569 01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:09,880 Speaker 14: I mean, look, I would they put Sean Clifford in there, 1570 01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,439 Speaker 14: but I'm you know, he's he's from saying saying next, 1571 01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,040 Speaker 14: he's not going to failure. But no, I think it 1572 01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:16,960 Speaker 14: gives you hopes if you're a fan, if you're if 1573 01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:20,040 Speaker 14: you're a fan, Elder is my new team. Elder, that's right, 1574 01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,000 Speaker 14: Elder is my new team. Are on the leading the 1575 01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:25,920 Speaker 14: bandwagon right now. There, those are my guys. Now that 1576 01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:30,000 Speaker 14: you said that, Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, careful panthers, you 1577 01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:31,160 Speaker 14: just said the kiss of death. 1578 01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,320 Speaker 11: Willie has jumped on your bandwagon. 1579 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,880 Speaker 1: I told Doug Ramsey, look, I talked to Rocky Boyman, 1580 01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,840 Speaker 1: who knows those guys that at h at Muller, and 1581 01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:41,439 Speaker 1: they said they're going to kick your ass tonight. He said, really, 1582 01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:43,920 Speaker 1: I said, you tell those Elder players get ready for 1583 01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,599 Speaker 1: an ass kiss kicking. And guess what he did. That's 1584 01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:48,680 Speaker 1: what he said. They came out of that locker room 1585 01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,800 Speaker 1: ready to go. Love it, love it all right, sick, 1586 01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:53,080 Speaker 1: give me some Willy. 1587 01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,720 Speaker 9: The Student Board is a proud service every local tame 1588 01:23:55,840 --> 01:24:00,839 Speaker 9: Star Heating in air conditioning dealers Tame Star Feeling Beautiful 1589 01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:04,400 Speaker 9: Western Hills called Durmoin Heating and Cooling at five one three, 1590 01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:08,360 Speaker 9: five ninety eight, eighty four forty nine or go to 1591 01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:11,519 Speaker 9: Durbin Heating and Cooling dot com spot. 1592 01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:13,479 Speaker 1: I want to I have an answer, Rock. Is he 1593 01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:14,880 Speaker 1: starting Sunday or not? 1594 01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:15,640 Speaker 4: I need to know. 1595 01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:18,439 Speaker 11: I think there's a chance he could. 1596 01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:21,679 Speaker 5: What do you say, seg yes? Please continue. 1597 01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,160 Speaker 9: We also want to thank Penn Station Willie for our 1598 01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:27,599 Speaker 9: lunch today East Coast Subs. It's all about good taste 1599 01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:29,639 Speaker 9: at Penn Station East Coast Subs. 1600 01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:30,560 Speaker 5: I love it. 1601 01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,639 Speaker 9: Let's see the big trade as we've been talking about. 1602 01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:37,120 Speaker 9: Joe Flacco comes from the Browns to the Bengals and 1603 01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,760 Speaker 9: a deal deal the Bengals also get a sixth round 1604 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,360 Speaker 9: draft pick, the Browns a fifth round pick, and the deal. 1605 01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:43,960 Speaker 4: Who gets the fifth and who gets the sixth. 1606 01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:47,479 Speaker 9: The Bengals get a sixth and the Browns get a fifth. 1607 01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,479 Speaker 1: So they traded him for a one round up or 1608 01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:50,240 Speaker 1: one round down. 1609 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:53,640 Speaker 5: That was it, right, that's not a big deal. 1610 01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,479 Speaker 1: We'll get a pick down a player, whether Bengals pick somebody. 1611 01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,000 Speaker 1: They never picked good players anyway. 1612 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,479 Speaker 9: College football twenty six ranks Cincinnata Aircast looks to continue 1613 01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,920 Speaker 9: those winning way Saturday against UCF more tonight on the 1614 01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,840 Speaker 9: Scott Satderfield showed live for the Ridge of Montgomery in 1615 01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:13,760 Speaker 9: after Sports Talk right here on seven hundred wlw uh. 1616 01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:16,879 Speaker 9: Let's see American League Division series coming up today Seattle 1617 01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,880 Speaker 9: in Detroit. That series nodded one to one tonight the 1618 01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:23,439 Speaker 9: Toronto and the Yanks. That Jay's leaded there too. 1619 01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:29,120 Speaker 1: Oh oh, Flaco is seeing it all and done at all. 1620 01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,600 Speaker 1: It's got a super Bowl ring him credit for that. 1621 01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:34,640 Speaker 1: Been to four different teams. I mean Baker Mayfield a 1622 01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:36,519 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I forget what team he was on. 1623 01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:37,920 Speaker 1: He came in, was it with the Ram? 1624 01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:38,679 Speaker 11: With the Rams? 1625 01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:39,960 Speaker 4: Did okay? 1626 01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,360 Speaker 14: Came right in one week on the team and did well. 1627 01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:46,120 Speaker 14: So let's say what can happen if you if you 1628 01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:48,320 Speaker 14: have experience, it can happen. 1629 01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:49,880 Speaker 1: You'll be there tonight. You'll be here tonight. 1630 01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:50,120 Speaker 6: Right. 1631 01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:52,280 Speaker 11: Oh he's yeah, he's here now and. 1632 01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,839 Speaker 1: He's studying the playbooks. Percent of the playbook? 1633 01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:55,320 Speaker 5: Can he use? 1634 01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:58,200 Speaker 11: May get twenty of it in? 1635 01:25:58,479 --> 01:25:58,639 Speaker 4: Well? 1636 01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:02,920 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow helped, Oh Placo, that's I never thought of 1637 01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:07,800 Speaker 1: that one. That doesn't seem like they should, right, doesn't should, 1638 01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,479 Speaker 1: but he probably will elm a little bit. Yeah, you 1639 01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:13,280 Speaker 1: still got the money anyway, got the money, got the 1640 01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:14,679 Speaker 1: ring from l s U's got everything. 1641 01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:16,080 Speaker 11: So Jake Brownie want not help you. 1642 01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:18,960 Speaker 1: Jake the snake Brownie will not helping him. How about 1643 01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,920 Speaker 1: Clifford A big red dog from saying X, What about him? 1644 01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:22,040 Speaker 6: Oh? 1645 01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:24,080 Speaker 11: I mean moved up right because they got they got 1646 01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:25,080 Speaker 11: rid of Mike White. 1647 01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:25,640 Speaker 5: They got rid of him. 1648 01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, these are tough times. 1649 01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:32,000 Speaker 11: Rock just us a war of attrition. Got to keep 1650 01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:34,240 Speaker 11: wear him down, get to the top. 1651 01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:35,400 Speaker 5: Do you have any hope? 1652 01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:37,880 Speaker 11: A little bit? 1653 01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,280 Speaker 5: You didn't answer a little bit of hope? 1654 01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:41,240 Speaker 11: Again? 1655 01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:45,240 Speaker 14: I hope this is an injection of hope. Shows that 1656 01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:46,960 Speaker 14: the franchise cares. 1657 01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:48,320 Speaker 1: And what is the player right now? 1658 01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:48,920 Speaker 5: In the locker room. 1659 01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,040 Speaker 4: You're in the locker room and here comes Joe Flecco 1660 01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,599 Speaker 4: and you're a linebacker. What do you say, a Joe? 1661 01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:55,000 Speaker 5: What's up? 1662 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:55,760 Speaker 1: Hey? 1663 01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:56,880 Speaker 5: Hey? 1664 01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:58,519 Speaker 11: I hope you're as good as they think you are. 1665 01:26:58,640 --> 01:26:58,960 Speaker 5: Let's go. 1666 01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,439 Speaker 1: Let's go all in Green Bay. They're like a fourteen 1667 01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:04,320 Speaker 1: and a half point dog in the lines moving. 1668 01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,800 Speaker 14: I've I mean, hell, I've signed, you know, six weeks 1669 01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:12,000 Speaker 14: into a season more, it's I signed with the Chiefs. 1670 01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:14,880 Speaker 14: I worked out with the Chiefs on a Monday, signed 1671 01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,200 Speaker 14: on a Tuesday, and started on a Sunday. 1672 01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:22,559 Speaker 4: But you know it's a much at Deer Park. Let's 1673 01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:25,839 Speaker 4: go get the ball when you're the quarterback. 1674 01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:27,280 Speaker 11: A little different. 1675 01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,840 Speaker 14: Well, it's more of a it's a language thing. So 1676 01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:33,640 Speaker 14: all the routes and the and the schemes are all 1677 01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:35,800 Speaker 14: the same. It's just a matter of, well, hey, we 1678 01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,920 Speaker 14: usould call it, you know, patriot, you guys call it whatever, 1679 01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:42,240 Speaker 14: and you know we gotta whiddle that down. 1680 01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:45,720 Speaker 4: Go from there, see what happens. What's in the big 1681 01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:46,240 Speaker 4: show today. 1682 01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,840 Speaker 14: Let's see, Uh, well we are gonna do a little 1683 01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:51,200 Speaker 14: bit of one eighty and talk a little Joe flaccoho 1684 01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,200 Speaker 14: join us. But right out of the gate we have 1685 01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:57,040 Speaker 14: Susan Fisher, the executive director of America's River Roots, and 1686 01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:57,640 Speaker 14: join us. 1687 01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:58,240 Speaker 1: Got a big. 1688 01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:00,360 Speaker 6: Here. 1689 01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:02,280 Speaker 5: Let's see. 1690 01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,080 Speaker 11: We got doctor Patrick Porter on at four o'clock. 1691 01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:06,760 Speaker 5: You got you ever get. 1692 01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:08,040 Speaker 14: Songs in your head and you're like, why the hell 1693 01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:09,519 Speaker 14: is that song in my head? And I keeps singing 1694 01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,839 Speaker 14: it over He's gonna tell us why. He's a brain expert, 1695 01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,360 Speaker 14: really gonna tell us why I need that? That'll be interesting. 1696 01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:16,120 Speaker 14: I got Joe Sturrego. It's bad to the bone in 1697 01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:19,000 Speaker 14: my head, I can't get it out. Well, that's because 1698 01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,240 Speaker 14: it's your freaking Maybe how do we get out of it? 1699 01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:24,200 Speaker 14: Like well, maybe not use that as your intro music? 1700 01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:26,240 Speaker 11: Even doing that for? How long has that been your 1701 01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:26,800 Speaker 11: intro song? 1702 01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:28,599 Speaker 5: Twenty years? 1703 01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,839 Speaker 1: Bert Camphor? I had some jingle from Bert Camphor segnoes 1704 01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:35,639 Speaker 1: him in the beginning, I'd say thirty thirty five years. 1705 01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:36,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, introduced him once. 1706 01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:39,000 Speaker 5: He should change it up, change it up to what 1707 01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:39,720 Speaker 5: I don't know. 1708 01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:44,479 Speaker 1: From good anthem, national anthem, Philadelphia, freedom, God, bless America. 1709 01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:45,640 Speaker 5: I don't know. 1710 01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:46,400 Speaker 3: Lee. 1711 01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:48,800 Speaker 4: How about Lee Greenwood Lee Green that's the one I like. 1712 01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:49,640 Speaker 3: Like that. 1713 01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:50,679 Speaker 11: Don't change your intro. 1714 01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:53,599 Speaker 1: It's classic. You got to stay with his classic, iconic. 1715 01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:57,080 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. I know we have hope we never had before. 1716 01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:57,840 Speaker 4: Now we have hope. 1717 01:28:58,200 --> 01:28:59,080 Speaker 5: Black over a little bit. 1718 01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,400 Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be something? It took us to the to 1719 01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:03,720 Speaker 1: the playoffs of the Super Bowl? Would you believe it? 1720 01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:06,840 Speaker 3: Did? 1721 01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:09,280 Speaker 14: Did we get any defensive players? Di Did Miles Garrett 1722 01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,479 Speaker 14: come with him? Any of those guys? 1723 01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:15,120 Speaker 5: Don't wonderful? 1724 01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:16,520 Speaker 11: We got both those guys. 1725 01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:19,200 Speaker 5: To trade Joe Burrow to throw him in a trunk. 1726 01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:25,080 Speaker 14: Would you trade Joe Burrow for Miles Garrett and Joe Flacco? No, No, 1727 01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:27,799 Speaker 14: Miles Garrett, Joe Flacco and Quinn Shawn Judkins. 1728 01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:31,479 Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't trade Joe for anybody. How about Hunter 1729 01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:33,920 Speaker 1: Green for Miles Garrett? What about that one? 1730 01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:35,600 Speaker 11: Now that I would do it? 1731 01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:39,760 Speaker 5: Right now? Trade Hunter Green right now? You would? I 1732 01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:40,760 Speaker 5: would would. 1733 01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:45,360 Speaker 4: I'm not sure how that would work, but let's find 1734 01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:46,439 Speaker 4: out the heck, you gotta think. 1735 01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:47,759 Speaker 11: Ask the question. 1736 01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:49,880 Speaker 5: I think outside the park, you sure do. 1737 01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:51,719 Speaker 11: How do you know if you don't ask, ask. 1738 01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:53,760 Speaker 4: Ask the guardians and talk talk to the Do you 1739 01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:55,240 Speaker 4: know that Penny was ever gonna grow with? 1740 01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:55,840 Speaker 11: You had to ask? 1741 01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:56,920 Speaker 5: Asked her? 1742 01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:57,800 Speaker 4: At one a m. 1743 01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,760 Speaker 14: In the morning, I called her you her Dad's house 1744 01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:06,120 Speaker 14: at one am? Why, oh boy, were you drunk? Now, Sanchez, 1745 01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,599 Speaker 14: I was like fifteen years old. I want to take 1746 01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:10,960 Speaker 14: a round and yeah, you know the rest. 1747 01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:13,640 Speaker 1: I went to the midnight mass at Saint Savier, got 1748 01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:16,400 Speaker 1: home by it was after one o'clock and I was 1749 01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,360 Speaker 1: looking for a date. So I looked in the book 1750 01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:21,120 Speaker 1: under rick Asbrock and he lived at eighty three oh 1751 01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:23,519 Speaker 1: one York and his phone number was five one three 1752 01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:25,400 Speaker 1: seven nine one three nine nineth threes. 1753 01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:26,280 Speaker 2: And so. 1754 01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:31,040 Speaker 1: At one thirty am on December the twenty sixth I 1755 01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:34,800 Speaker 1: called and he answered the phone. He said, who is this? 1756 01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:36,919 Speaker 4: I said, this is Bill Cunningham. 1757 01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:39,320 Speaker 1: Who are you? Well, I like to ask your daughter 1758 01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:42,599 Speaker 1: on a date. And then I heard him say, Penny, 1759 01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,920 Speaker 1: do you know of Bill Cunningham? She said yeah, I 1760 01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:49,280 Speaker 1: think I do, and she dad said he's dressed marine. 1761 01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:53,200 Speaker 1: You got thirty seconds and I said, hey, you want 1762 01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:54,400 Speaker 1: to go on a date? She said sure. 1763 01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:55,000 Speaker 4: I said okay. 1764 01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,080 Speaker 11: He asked why you were calling at one thirty in 1765 01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:57,400 Speaker 11: the morning. 1766 01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,400 Speaker 1: Then, well, at two am I picked drew up the 1767 01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:03,599 Speaker 1: next night and the reason of the reason I'm calling 1768 01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:05,479 Speaker 1: so later, I just came home from midnight Mass. 1769 01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:06,760 Speaker 8: There you go. 1770 01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:11,439 Speaker 1: We were midnight Max, I said, yes, a little Penny 1771 01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:13,000 Speaker 1: in the blonde hair, standing there shirt. 1772 01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:16,439 Speaker 14: And then all of a sudden thoughts while you were 1773 01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:19,200 Speaker 14: sitting there, sort of thoughts, I did. 1774 01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:21,559 Speaker 4: It worked out? 1775 01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:25,240 Speaker 1: Well, that's all it matters. The rest is history. And 1776 01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:26,640 Speaker 1: then she wouldn't have sex and we so we had 1777 01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:28,000 Speaker 1: to get married when I was nineteen. 1778 01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:29,479 Speaker 5: That was terrible. 1779 01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:31,840 Speaker 1: Imagine that you don't have that problem today. 1780 01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:34,519 Speaker 5: That's not how it goes anymore. That's the way it went. 1781 01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:37,840 Speaker 1: And when I picked her up, she had a rosary 1782 01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:40,000 Speaker 1: around her neck her mother put there, and so they 1783 01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:41,000 Speaker 1: talked about a rally. 1784 01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,000 Speaker 5: Killer right there, getting that or anything else. 1785 01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:49,520 Speaker 1: No bingo, give me out of the stuture today. 1786 01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:51,680 Speaker 5: Around her. 1787 01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:56,200 Speaker 4: Scapitolo. Oh my god, she had a prayer book with 1788 01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:59,240 Speaker 4: her Willian of a rainy day year at the tri 1789 01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:00,280 Speaker 4: State True Story. 1790 01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:02,120 Speaker 5: We leave you with the immortal. 1791 01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:03,240 Speaker 4: Words of the stew. 1792 01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:08,840 Speaker 3: Joe. 1793 01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:13,840 Speaker 1: He's not saying that anymore, is he. Joe Flacco, Welcome 1794 01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:17,479 Speaker 1: to the Queen City. Do better than Jake the Snake Browning. 1795 01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:20,200 Speaker 1: He's related to Tom Browning. I'm sure you won't say that. 1796 01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:22,240 Speaker 1: I think they forced Joe Fla to drive down. 1797 01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:23,200 Speaker 4: Yes, he drove him. 1798 01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:25,240 Speaker 11: That was like the cheerleaders pay Mileagh. 1799 01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:29,600 Speaker 1: That's part of the cheerleaders flying their own nickel to 1800 01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:34,160 Speaker 1: Canson for the Super Bowl. That's anyway. Rockley, thank you, 1801 01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:36,320 Speaker 1: thank you. Think about little Penny with a rosier around 1802 01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:40,240 Speaker 1: her neck, trying not to say thank you. Seven hundred 1803 01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:41,120 Speaker 1: w l you