1 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: All right, two weekends upon us. Welcome at home with 2 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: Garrie Sullivan. Thanks for joining me, and a lot going on, 3 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: and we're also going to talk a little bit about 4 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: metal roofs at the bottom of the arm. In the meantime, 5 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: happy to take your call regarding your home projects. In 6 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: the meantime, let's get to Sylvia. Sylvia. Welcome. 7 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, thank you. 8 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: There you go. 9 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Well, my husband and I were wondering we've 10 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: got a couple of issues here. We have a storm 11 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: door that has I guess separated from the piano hinges, 12 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: and we were wondering if you could recommend someone in 13 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: our area to come out and take a look at it. 14 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: We're in Westchester, Ohio. 15 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 1: Oh, I think a handyman. I don't think there's anybody 16 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: that's going to be, you know, really focused in on 17 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: just doing that repair. Is so the hinge itself is 18 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: are there screws holding like a piano hinge on it? 19 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: Or how's it? Where's it failing? I guess is what 20 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm asking. 21 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: I guess. I'll be honest, I'm not really sure. 22 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: I guess at the frame, Okay, A lot of handyman, 23 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't visualize it, but I know what 24 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: you're talking about, and you know, I mean it's not 25 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 1: going to be a door company or anything like that 26 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: that's going to make that repair. Sylvia. I'd go down. 27 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: You know, you can get on Angie's list, find a 28 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: handy man. You can go down to your local Ace 29 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: hardware store. They probably have a list of handy men 30 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: there and you know, contact one of them and see 31 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: if they can take a look at it. 32 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: Okay, that'd be great, thank you. Then the other thing 33 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: is we we have. 34 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: Voles v O L E s. 35 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and. 36 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: It's just so aggravating. I mean, the backyard is a mess, 37 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: and now they've gone to the side yard and now 38 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: the front yard. Is there any kind of company or 39 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: anyone that would. 40 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: Eradicate Yeah, certainly. The people that can take care of 41 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: the voles are pretty much the same people that can 42 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: take care of moles. You know, vole is smaller. Uh, 43 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: But the best way to get rid of them is 44 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: still the trapping the same way they do with moles, 45 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, with a scissor trap or a harpoon tap 46 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: and find the main runway. So people that do that 47 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: would be people that get ridd of moles. They can 48 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: also get rid of voles also, like you know Pest 49 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: Control company, a lot of them will also do that 50 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 1: kind of work. They'll trap mice, they'll trap moles, they'll 51 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: drop voles calling around like and you know, a one 52 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: test control see if they do that type of work. 53 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: But that's who's going to work on that. And they're tough, 54 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: little you know, you gotta chase them around for a while, 55 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: but you know they're tough, and you're right, they just 56 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: they just they tear up yard, no question about that. 57 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: They really do. And I'm worried about my husband getting 58 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: out there, maybe twisting an ankle or something, because it. 59 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: Usually somebody that will trap it that knows what they're doing. 60 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: The whole thing is to find which tunnels are active 61 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: because they change. And once you find them the active 62 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: tunnels and then start trapping them, you know, they'll get 63 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: them in you know, a few days, you know, one 64 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: to three days probably, it's pretty normal, I think. Do 65 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: you live near woods, yes, yeah, see, that's that's the 66 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: that's the issue you too, Sylvia. As some of their 67 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: tunnels go into the woods, so they're all connected, right, 68 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: and they're you know, they're feeding tunnels and different things 69 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: like that. So sometimes you get rid of them and 70 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: they also come back. So I will get somebody. If 71 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: you're looking for somebody to eradicate that, it's something you're 72 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: probably gonna work with them for a while. You know, 73 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: they'll get them, they'll get them trapped, they'll get some 74 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: out of there, and then some more return and eventually, uh, 75 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: eventually you're eradicate them. 76 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: I think. Okay, oh gosh, good to know. Well, I 77 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: certainly appreciate it. Thank you very much for the information, 78 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: and quite well, have your show. 79 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: Thank you. I have a great Christmas. Appreciate it all right. 80 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: Uh it's eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. 81 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: That is our phone number. And uh, you know, if 82 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: that's something you want to do yourself, you just got 83 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: to be you know, getting rid of moles or voles. 84 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: You kind of get rid of them the same way. 85 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't really recommend using poisons or anything like that. 86 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: We're just randomly digging, get those traps, find the main runway, 87 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: which is usually man you know, fairly straight, and we'll 88 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: say that step on it, flatten it, come back in 89 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: about a day and see if it's raised again. If 90 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: it's raised again, it's active, and then set that trap 91 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: exactly in that tunnel. Wear gloves too. You want to 92 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: reduce the you know, human scent. Check the traps daily 93 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: and see how you're doing. It's like gold fishing. All right, 94 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: we'll go to Pat Pat Welcome. 95 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: Hey, good morning, Dary. 96 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 5: Hope you're doing. 97 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: Well, doing fine, Sarah, thank you. 98 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 4: The previous lady about no no handyman type and services. Yes, 99 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 4: one thing I would highly recommend is go to whatever 100 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 4: in person. Do not trying to get anything over the phone, right, 101 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 4: because they won't give it to you. 102 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,559 Speaker 1: Oh well, no, yeah, they gotta. Just like when she's 103 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: talking about that type of hinge, a lot of different 104 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: types of hinges on storm doors. I think I visualize it, 105 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: but I don't know what the problem is. I don't 106 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: know what the hinges are. You're right, you got to 107 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: have them take a look at it to get a 108 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: fair estimate. Somebody may look at that and just say 109 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: you need a new storm door. 110 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no. Where I'm going with this is 111 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: they're not because they don't know. If they're like, you're 112 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: a competitor to someone else calling up and saying, okay, 113 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: who's a good contractor. 114 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but if you go to a hardware store, 115 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: they always have active list of different contractors. 116 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and say, okay, this is what I need. Don 117 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 4: who is good? And you've got to do it in first, 118 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 4: and you can't get it down over the phone. 119 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so when you're going to the store. But yeah, 120 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: I was in the hardware business for many years, and boy, 121 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: we knew who the good ones were because they shopped 122 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: and bought stuff, and you know, we get feedback and 123 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: we'd always have a list of you know, at least 124 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: five or ten of them, and we would give them out, 125 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: you know, you know, on a regular basis. Yeah. 126 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 4: Hey, one other tip, you know, and I've already done this, 127 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 4: removed these from the spickett. 128 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, good, and you did. 129 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 4: And one thing though, is, you know my outdoor spicket 130 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 4: goes under and completely unheated outdoor porch. Okay, and there's 131 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 4: a water shut off valve inside the heated portion. 132 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 5: Of the house. 133 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: Yepah, get that shut off, don't you. 134 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. So just because you shut it off at the 135 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 4: faucet doesn't mean you're good to go. 136 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, especially in your situation too. I mean, I 137 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: I use the analogy a lot of times of a 138 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: regular lawn faucet, which is just copper line right up 139 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: to that faucet. I mean you have to shut that 140 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: off on the inside of the house. And then there's 141 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: the frost proof. But as I've said many times, that 142 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: pipe is eight ten or twelve inches long, and so 143 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: is that stem. But if that's not going to get 144 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: you to the heated portion of the house, you know, 145 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter whether it's a lawn faucet or a 146 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: frostproof faucet, you're going to have a problem because the 147 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: line that's feeding the frostproof faucet, you know, has to 148 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: be drained. So you're you're exactly correct. 149 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, mine has a drain valves. So I got 150 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 4: a five gallon docket. I can you know and do it? 151 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: So I've already done it very good. Well, thank you 152 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: much for the tips. I appreciate it. I hope you 153 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: have a wonderful holiday, and if you'd like to join us, 154 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: do so. It's eight hundred and eighty two eight two 155 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: five five and again on his indoor faucets. In all honesty, 156 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: it never hurts if you've got I don't care what 157 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: kind of valve you've got that's going outside. If you 158 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: can follow that into the house and you find that 159 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: shut off valve that's going to that um, there's a 160 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: little cap on there, a little bleeder cap. You shut 161 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: that off. Use that bleeder cap, bleed that water out 162 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: of there, disconnect the hose on the outside. 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I saw it in 217 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: the hardware store just the other day. Pretty cool. I 218 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: like it looks a little bit easier to use. It's 219 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: got a better handle on it. And instead of the 220 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: barbs that stick out the plastic barbes, that's got bristles, 221 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: short little bristles, and I picked one of those up. 222 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: Haven't used it yet, but kind of can't wait to. 223 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: Not that I want to clog drain or anything, but 224 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to using it. We'll put it that way, 225 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: all right again. Our phone numbers eight hundred and eighty 226 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: two three A two five five Candice, Welcome, Hi, How 227 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: are you doing doing fine? Thank you. 228 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 7: I have a solution for the moles. 229 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: Okay, well these are voles, right. 230 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 3: M O. 231 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: L e s. Yeah, Well she had voles, but they're 232 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: kind of the same. 233 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 7: Okay. What I have is a windmill that is attached 234 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 7: to at least it's twelve feet long, and you install 235 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 7: the pole into the ground three to four feet deep, 236 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 7: and then when the will windmill turns, it takes the 237 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 7: pole and it shakes the ground and that runs them away. 238 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. I have seen those. In fact, I've even seen 239 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: smaller ones. I think a little bit of it depends 240 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: on the type of soil too. If you've got a 241 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: softer soil, a sandy soil, it's probably going to work 242 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: a little bit better than a real hard clay soil. 243 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: Is the pole the one on the one you're talking about, 244 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: Is that a steel pole? 245 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: Yes? 246 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: Okay? And how far do you sinking into the ground? 247 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 7: At least three feet? 248 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: So how do you sink that in? Is I mean, 249 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: do you dig a hole or how do you do that? 250 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 3: Well? 251 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, you dig a hole and then you get on 252 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 7: the ladder and you. 253 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: Pound it in driving in Okay. I just wanted to 254 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: get the picture. Yeah, And you've had good luck with 255 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: getting ridal moles with that, and I agree. I mean, 256 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: there's a boy. I'll tell you what. I been almost 257 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: doing a show for almost forty years, and there are 258 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: are all kinds of different remedies to get rid of moles. 259 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: And I've heard that, I've seen that. I haven't done that, 260 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of different solutions. And it's really 261 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: interesting because sometimes you know, they work great. Sometimes I 262 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: found they don't work that well. And I'm not talking 263 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: about yours, but I'm talking about chewing gum. I'm talking 264 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: about there's you know, all kinds of different. You go 265 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: through the hardware story, you probably find ten fifteen different 266 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: things to get rid of moles, and like I said, 267 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: voles are kind of the same, but they are different. 268 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: I've even sonic noises that you can put in there. 269 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: But I appreciate that tip. I used to see. This 270 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: is probably thirty years ago, Candice. They used to have 271 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: little ones with a metal not really a pole, like 272 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:59,119 Speaker 1: a metal dal and it was a little plastic windmill 273 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: that looked like a sun flower, and they were all 274 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: the rage for a while, and I don't even see 275 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: them anymore, so maybe that wasn't long lasting. But the 276 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: only sure fire away I know, and certainly folks you 277 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: can try that if you have that problem. But the 278 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: only surefire away that I know to really get them 279 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: under control is to trap them. I've been one of 280 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: those folks that have tried many different things, sometimes very successfully, 281 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: and then the next time I have the problem not 282 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: so successfully. And I still have told the story many times. 283 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: But you see a problem, it's the mole or the vole, 284 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: and you start using the trap, and they're sneaky little 285 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: devils and a lot of times you pull in the 286 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: driveway and you see that tunnel moving and you get 287 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: out of a spade, and well that'll take care of 288 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: them real fast. But you got to see that tunnel moving, 289 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: you can see where they are under there. I mean, 290 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: you know, it just takes a you have to get 291 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: a little aggressive with them. But there are a lot 292 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: of different and I don't discourage you from trying it 293 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: because they're very frustrating. And some of them, like I said, 294 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: some of them will work, and some of them that 295 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: you swear on will work, they'll quit working. So just 296 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: kind of pass that along. But this lady had voles. 297 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: Here's another another little tip for you. If you're hanging 298 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: up a maybe a shower rod, maybe a safety bar 299 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: and a beathtub area with a ceramic tile on there, 300 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: and I know they got them with suction cups and 301 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: you know, compression with a spring, but if you want 302 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: to really mount one up where you're just not going 303 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: to have problems, and you're going to go through the 304 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: ceramic tile, through the green border whatever's on the other side, 305 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: and you're gonna use a plastic anchor or something, or 306 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna hit the stud whatever. The hard part will 307 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: be getting through the ceramic tile and you may be thinking, well, 308 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: you just use a masonry bit. You can, but there 309 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: are bits strictly for ceramic tile. And if you get 310 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: one of those and you have a variable speed you know, 311 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: drill battery or electric, and you get a ceramic bit, 312 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: that's the key boy. It'll bite right onto that ceramic 313 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: towel once you scratch that glazing a little bit, and 314 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: it'll be like a knife going through a hot knife 315 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: going through butter. It really will. So there are specific 316 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: drill bits for a lot of different things, but they 317 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: have a ceramic tile drill bit, which I think is fantastic. 318 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even mess around with a masonry bit. You'll 319 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: be there for a while with that, but not with 320 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: that seramic tawbidd, It'll cut right through it. So I 321 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: wanted to pass that alone. All right. Our phone number 322 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: is eight hundred eight two three eight two five five, 323 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 1: Go ahead and grab a line. Happy to chat with 324 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: you about your home, Missue. And so what do you 325 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: feel about smart homes? 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He is with 373 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: Classic Metal Roofing and kind of see where the metal 374 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: roofing industry is these days. I would assume it's growing, 375 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: especially with some of the natural disasters that have taken place, 376 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: and I think, quite honestly, some of the not so 377 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: good press that asphalt shingles are getting. So Todd Miller, 378 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: welcome that home with Gary Salvn. How you doing. 379 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 3: I'm doing fantastic. Thank you so much for having me today, 380 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 3: Garrett Pleasure. 381 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: You're quite welcome. What is the metal roofing industry going? 382 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 3: You know, we continue to grow, and you hit on 383 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: something important there. A lot of times the natural disasters 384 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 3: kind of point people toward, hey, there has to be 385 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 3: a better way to roof my home. And a few 386 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: years ago when several hurricanes hit Florida, we saw that 387 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: happen in Florida and Florida very much has turned toward 388 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 3: metal in recent years. And now the big thing is 389 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 3: the horribly tragic fires out in southern California just about 390 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 3: a year ago. As people are starting to think about 391 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 3: rebuilding and even remodeling if they did survive the fires 392 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 3: without devastation, we are seeing a lot of heads and 393 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 3: thoughts turning toward metal roofing in southern California right now. 394 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, what kind of propped in my call to you 395 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: is well, two things happened. Number One, I saw report 396 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: where they were testing s phalt shingles on hell damage 397 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: and across the board. I'm gonna screw this up a 398 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: Criterias and nobody ended up with a classification of as excellent. 399 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: So that was a little concerning. I know, the shingles 400 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: have gotten a little thinner. I know algae has become 401 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: you know, unsightly on shingles that are over ten years old. 402 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: What else is going on? Insurance companies they want to 403 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: pro rate roofs asphalt shingles. I don't know how that 404 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: applies to MET And I thought, after I heard all 405 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: of that, I said, you know what, we got to 406 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: talk to Todd about metal roofing because you think metal roofing, 407 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: and uh, quite honestly, everybody thinks, oh, when it rains, 408 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: it's going to be loud, and how's that do with hail? 409 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: So why don't you give me the benefits of metal roofing? 410 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: Todd Sure, And you know you touched on the insurance 411 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 3: industry there, and absolutely insurance is trying figure out how 412 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 3: they can quit having to buy new people new. 413 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 4: Roosts every year. 414 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 3: The insurance industry and many of these hail prone areas 415 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 3: is extremely upside down, and so they've been looking at 416 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 3: a number of options reducing coverage. In fact, probably a 417 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: lot of your listeners have gotten letters from their insurance 418 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 3: companies that referenced rooft damages in hail, and most of 419 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: those letters are hard to even understand. But the point 420 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: is they're trying to figure out how to not have 421 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: to keep replacing roosts due to hail damage. And you know, 422 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 3: I think one of the keys that is a big 423 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 3: benefit of metal roofing is that it doesn't lose its resiliency, 424 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 3: It doesn't lose its strength, that it doesn't have all 425 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 3: these oils in it that evaporate and dry out, so 426 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 3: that it becomes weaker with age. A metal roof will 427 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 3: resist hail, it will be just as resilient and high winds, 428 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 3: just as fire resistant in thirty forty fifty years as 429 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 3: it is when it's first installed. You look at most 430 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 3: other roofing materials, and you know, including asphalt shingles, including 431 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 3: wood shingles that used to be used a lot in 432 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: grouning tile. There are some newer polymer products on the market. 433 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 3: We're not quite sure how those are going to fair, 434 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: but you know, most of those products tend to lose 435 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 3: a lot of that strength and resiliency as they age, 436 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 3: and that just isn't the case with metal. So for 437 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 3: that reason, insurance companies like metal in a lot of 438 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 3: respects and in many cases where they have started to regulate, hey, 439 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 3: we won't ensure anybody with the roof over fifteen years old. 440 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 3: In most cases that those homeowners dig a little bit, 441 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 3: they will find that there are there is a pathway 442 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 3: for getting their roof in or their home insured if 443 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 3: it has a metal roof on it, despite that metal 444 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 3: roof maybe being fifteen, twenty five, thirty five years old. 445 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: Not that money is the only concern, but in terms 446 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: of metal roofing that's going to last. I think to 447 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: warrant you bod fifty years or something. 448 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 3: I mean, you're pretty common forty to fifty years, sometimes 449 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 3: lifetime for the initial owner. 450 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. How's the insurance treat DOZ? I mean, is there 451 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: a discount to the homeowner in terms of insurance if 452 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: you have a metal roof. 453 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 3: So it's kind of a double edged sword for the 454 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 3: insurance industry. They realize that metal roosts are very resilient, 455 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: very long lasting, but they also know if there's some 456 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 3: sort of disaster that does destroy that roof, they're going 457 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 3: to have a fairly expensive plane because metal roofs do 458 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 3: have a higher upfront cost. So what we have seen 459 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: is they will offer discounts in some areas of the country, 460 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 3: especially in hail prone areas of the country, they will 461 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 3: offer a discount for metal roofing. We've also seen in 462 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 3: some cases a homeowner might be paying extra on their 463 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 3: insurance if they have, say a wood roof due to 464 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 3: the fire hazard, or if they have an older asshole roof. 465 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 3: They may still be being insured but simply be paying 466 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 3: more because of it. So if you replace with a 467 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 3: metal roof, make sure you go back to your insurance, 468 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 3: got me and find out if you've been paying anything 469 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 3: extra for that old roof that can now go away 470 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 3: now that you have a new roof. 471 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had Beth Harper and she's an insurance broker 472 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: out of Cleveland. We had her on last week and 473 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,239 Speaker 1: we've had different discussions. I knew there's big changes, you know, 474 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: with insurance and roofing, and we were talking about a 475 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: lot of those things. But I think metal roofing brings 476 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: so much more to the table than just the insurance. 477 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: And one of his energy savings. A lot of people 478 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: don't look at a roof as an energy saving product, 479 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: but a metal roofing can save you energy in. 480 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 3: Particular during the summer. That is correct. So today's metal roofs, 481 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 3: sometimes with the coatings on them, sometimes just because of 482 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 3: the design of the product. They're designed to keep heat 483 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 3: out of the attic and to be reflective of radiant heat. 484 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 3: And what we will often hear from homeowners is they 485 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 3: will see summertime energy savings of around twenty percent due 486 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 3: to reduced air conditioning needs. And so yeah, that's pretty significant. 487 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 3: And you know, there again, that isn't something that you 488 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 3: just get for the first couple of years and it diminishes. 489 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 3: You know, it's there for the life of the roof. 490 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: How about the look of a metal roof. I'm sure 491 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: there's people listening as conversation going like, yeah, but I 492 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: don't want my house to look like a mar and 493 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: that's so far from the truth. Well, I got a 494 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: niche down in Louisville, Kentucky, and driving through down in 495 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: that area, there's a lot of metal roofs and beautiful 496 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: homes with beautiful metal roofs, and there is a there's 497 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: quite a distinctive look on a metal roof if you 498 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: want it. Kind of talk about the appearance. 499 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 3: Well, there absolutely is. There's a great variety of looks. 500 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 3: You can have that traditional vertical seam root look if 501 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 3: you want that, and you know, in particular on some 502 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 3: homes colonials or some ultra contemporary homes, that vertical seam 503 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 3: look looks really nice. However, there are also a number 504 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 3: of companies, including ours, that manufacture a wide variety of 505 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 3: metal shingles, so you can actually have a metal roof 506 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 3: that looks like traditional asshole shingles or maybe looks like 507 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 3: a high end slate roof or a barrel tile roof 508 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 3: or a wood shake roof. You can have the benefits 509 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 3: of metal with something that doesn't look like metal at all. 510 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: Is there an I mean, do most roofers do metal 511 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: roofing or is it kind of a Nietzsche group of 512 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: folks that do the installation on metal roofing And how 513 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: do we find those folks? Sure? 514 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 3: So, our industry has worked very hard to train new 515 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 3: installers out there, and so yes, most metal roof or 516 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 3: most riffing contractors will offer metal roofs, and a lot 517 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 3: of times they will subcontract that labor out not to 518 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 3: their typical asphalt crew, but to a metal specialist crew. 519 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 3: One of the things I really suggest people do, though, is, 520 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 3: you know, do some research online, look at the metal 521 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 3: roofs that you like, find some products you like, go 522 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: back to those manufacturers and say, hey, I like your product. 523 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 3: Who in my area is experienced installing this product? And 524 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 3: let the manufacturer who you know, they know who their 525 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 3: customers are, and they know who does things right and 526 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 3: who maybe doesn't do things right. Let them refer you 527 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 3: to somebody who's experienced with their product. 528 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: Todd, when you just mentioned something that didn't even really 529 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: think of to even ask. But when you're looking for 530 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: a metal roof, you say different manufacturers and stuff, and 531 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: of course not all manufacturers are the same kind as 532 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: you stated. For as a consumer, what kind of things 533 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: are you asking or looking for in a metal roof? 534 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 3: You know, I think aesthetics and warranty are a big one. 535 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 3: You know, I think looking at the type of coating 536 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 3: that's on the roof. So for many years, the really 537 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 3: the well most respected coating on metal roofing has been 538 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: a paint finish called kin er as a trade name 539 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 3: or it's PVDF polyvanildine fluoride, and the polyvaneldine fluoride is 540 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 3: an extremely robust finish that's well known for its fade 541 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 3: and chalk resistance. So I would certainly look into seeing 542 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 3: what the coating is on it, what the life expectancy, 543 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 3: what the fade and chalk resistance is of that coating. Yes, 544 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 3: you're right, there's a lot of manufacturers out there, and 545 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 3: you know, there are a few folks who are sort 546 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 3: of putting themselves out there as manufacturers, but they are 547 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 3: buying all shore products and bringing it in. You'll know 548 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: who the warranty is coming from. I know exactly what 549 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 3: theroduct warranty covers and know who stands behind that warranty. 550 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 3: And of course when you buy a roof, you're probably 551 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 3: going to get two warranties. You're going to get a 552 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 3: product warranty from the manufacturer. You're going to get an 553 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 3: installation workmanship warranty from the contractor. You certainly want to 554 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 3: understand both of those and know who is behind both 555 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 3: of theirs. 556 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: So the warranties, is it safe to say they're almost 557 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: double of a asphalt roof, I mean, is a just 558 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: being very general? 559 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 3: You know, any warranty, of course you always want to 560 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 3: look at the fine print, right and there are certainly 561 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 3: ways to create warranties out there that have so many 562 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 3: exclusions in them that they look better than they really are. 563 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 3: But typically with a residential metal roof, we're seeing on 564 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 3: product warranty most manufacturers offering a lifetime warranty for the 565 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,719 Speaker 3: life of the initial property owner, and then usually it 566 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 3: transfers to a forty or fifty year warranty after or 567 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 3: when the house is sold. A couple of things to 568 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 3: look at are how many times will that warranty transfer? 569 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 3: We'll just transfer one then never again, we'll transfer multiple 570 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 3: times during the forty or fifty years, and then look 571 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 3: at the pro ration of that warranty. Two, some roofing 572 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 3: warranties of all products pro rate down pretty heavily, whereas say, 573 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 3: maybe by year five, the coverage is only fifty percent 574 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 3: of the value of the roof. And you know that 575 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 3: is all based on the fact that you did get 576 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 3: some value and some use out of that product. But 577 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 3: there are warranties out there that do not pro rate 578 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 3: at all, and so you want to make sure you 579 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 3: understand again exactly what that warranty covers, what its limitations are, 580 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 3: how transferable it is, and whether it pro rates or not. 581 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: Certainly a metal roof is going to cost more upfront. 582 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: You had said that maybe it's a couple times. I 583 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: don't know. It's a roof that you're going to have 584 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: for the rest of your life, that's for sure. Is 585 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: there any text credit in metal roofing? 586 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 3: So there was a federal tax credit for a number 587 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 3: of years, and that did go away at the end 588 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty two. What we do see is some 589 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 3: local utility incentives. The state of Michigan has had a 590 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 3: program that would help homeowners get lower interest rates for 591 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 3: buying energy efficient products, So there are some state and 592 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 3: local incentives out there. Usually, once you get to the 593 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 3: point of talking to a contractor, they're probably going to 594 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 3: know what incentives are available in your area. 595 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: Excellent, Todd. Thank you so much for join us. We're 596 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: going to do this again. I think Metal Roofing is 597 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: going to see a little bit of an explosion here. 598 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: I really I just feelt my bones and you're my 599 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: go to guy. How do people get a hold of 600 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: you or your website? How do we get things started? 601 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 3: So my company corporate name is Isaiah Industry is good 602 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 3: Isaiah Industries dot com. They can also go to classicroof 603 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 3: dot com. Or I have an educational website at ask 604 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 3: Toddmiller dot com and folks can reach me through that 605 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 3: Todd at ask Toddmiller dot com. And I've got lots 606 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 3: of questions on that website and things I've answered and 607 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 3: things I've helped folks with over the years. 608 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: Wonderful. Thank you so much for joining us. You guys 609 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: have a blessed Christmas and a happy New Year. 610 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 2: You too. 611 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Gary taking you. 612 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: Bet you Thanks all right, Todd Miller. I'll tell you 613 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 1: what he is. 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A lot good 663 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: information there and our phone number if you'd like to 664 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: join us too, So it's eight hundred A two three 665 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 1: A two five five Greg Welcome. 666 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 5: Thank you, sir, appreciate this taking the call. Roof question. 667 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 5: My mother uh lives in northern Tennessee almost to Kentucky 668 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 5: and she needs a new roof and we were looking 669 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 5: at getting a metal roof for she's had shingle her 670 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 5: whole life. And mister Todd had mentioned, you know, going 671 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 5: online doing your research. Everything I read had said, you 672 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 5: want to get at least a twenty six gauge roof. 673 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 5: She's gotten three or four quotes up there, and everybody 674 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 5: that she gets the quote from says we put the 675 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 5: roof over the shingles. One guy says they put a 676 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,479 Speaker 5: Thermaguard insulation and vapor barrier between them. But they all 677 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 5: use twenty nine. And I was just wondering if that's 678 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 5: good enough. 679 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what that would be better. And 680 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, not to speak for Todd 681 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 1: or anything. When he was saying about twenty six, I 682 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: think the reference was being made to at least get 683 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: a twenty six gauge. Okay, but that twenty nine. I 684 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: don't know that that's actually that'd be a little thicker, right. 685 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 5: No, so' that's what I'm thinking. 686 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: At first, I'm thinking that's gonna be thicker. I'm thinking, no, 687 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: that's gonna be thinner. 688 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,720 Speaker 5: It's like a shotgun gage. 689 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, I'm back. I'm back, I'm back in orbit. Yeah. 690 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 1: I don't know that. To be honest, I really don't know. 691 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: I think I would go to s Toddmiller dot com 692 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 1: and ask that question again. Yeah, yeah, I don't you know, 693 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: there's also when you're talking metal roofing too. I don't 694 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: think we made the delineation from a steel metal roofing 695 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 1: to an aluminum metal roofing. I know he's talking about steel. 696 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if that comes into play with a 697 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: gauge or not. 698 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 5: Well, I mean that in his in Marl's part of 699 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 5: the country, they look at the weight of snow, you. 700 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: Know, right, well yeah, every decade, sure, sure, but. 701 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 5: She gets it all the time. So I didn't know 702 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 5: if maybe they were doing that because of the snow 703 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 5: weight would make it a little wi Yeah. 704 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, again, I don't know that had been a good question. 705 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: I could have asked him. I will tell you this too, Greg. 706 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: If you want to go that, ask Todd Miller dot com. 707 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,919 Speaker 1: He will answer it. He's very, very thorough, he said 708 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: on the National Board for Metal Roofing. There's also a 709 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:20,439 Speaker 1: independent metal roofing website which is metalroofing dot com. It's 710 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: out west, but you know it speaks for the entire 711 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: nation in metal roofing. You might do a little research 712 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 1: on that website too and see if it says yeah, 713 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking kind of out loud. I know, gutters 714 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,280 Speaker 1: are you know thirty two and then the metal roofing 715 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: he said twenty nine. Todd says twenty six. So I 716 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. I'm sure there's a reason snowload. 717 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's more in the construction. I certainly 718 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: some gauge would come into play there, but I really 719 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: just don't know the answer to that. 720 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate your time and I will definitely email him. 721 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 5: Thank you kind You're. 722 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,439 Speaker 1: Very very good, Thanks Greg. I appreciate it, all right. Yeah, 723 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: I don't know why I said that the gage I 724 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: was all missed up. All right, let me give you 725 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: the phone number you're feel free to grab a line, 726 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 1: happy to talk to you about your own project. It 727 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: is eight hundred eight two three A two five five 728 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: and Danny'll answer to the call. Put you on the 729 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 1: board and well we'll chat about it and get you 730 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: back to working no time at all. And uh, you 731 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: want to test one there say if you're doing a 732 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,720 Speaker 1: little work with stains or stains, uh, and you're using cloth, 733 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: and remember that cloth can be combustionable as it dries, 734 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: so put it either outside, open it up, or if 735 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 1: you're keep in the garage don't roll it up in 736 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,879 Speaker 1: a ball and throw it in a box. You got 737 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: to keep it and let it air drive. All right, 738 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,760 Speaker 1: we'll continue. 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