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Speaker 1: This is the Mark Mannon show. You like it, you

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Speaker 1: love it, you want more of it. You can follow

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Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Mark Madden X. We're gonna talk Stillers,

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Speaker 1: but I'd rather talk Penguins. They're tied for the most

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Speaker 1: points in the Eastern Conference. I know it's only eight

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Speaker 1: games in, but I did not see this coming. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure I see it continuing, but it sure is

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Speaker 1: fun now. The Penguins are one of the NHL's top

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Speaker 1: stories right now. Gino twelve points in eight games. Sid

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Speaker 1: eleven points in eight games, six goals, including two goals

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Speaker 1: last night.

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Speaker 2: The old firm.

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Speaker 1: Whenever Florida pulled coast last night, the Penguins scored right

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Speaker 1: away to open back up a two goal lead. That

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Speaker 1: happened twice. That's what good teams do. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: they're a good team, but that's what good teams do.

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Speaker 1: Penguins go out shot thirty seven sixteen. Jari made that

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Speaker 1: scorpion state line flat on his stomach.

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Speaker 2: That was incredible.

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Speaker 1: After the game, we'll talk more about this later, but

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Speaker 1: the Penguins give out a construction helmet to their player

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Speaker 1: of the game.

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Speaker 2: There was a.

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Speaker 1: Picture of Sid wearing the construction level on Twitter. He

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Speaker 1: looked like one of the village people. I kept looking

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Speaker 1: for the biker. The La Chargers blasted Minnesota last night

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Speaker 1: on Thursday Night Football.

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Speaker 2: Thirty seven to ten.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers visit the Chargers in two weeks, after green

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Speaker 1: Bay this week and Indy next week. Mike Pursuda of DV,

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Speaker 1: who has his finger on the pulse no doubt, he

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Speaker 1: says these three games will determine the Steelers season. I agree, Hey,

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Speaker 1: you think the Steelers are great, should be no problem, right,

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Speaker 1: just win the games. Great crowded Sharkis last night for

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Speaker 1: my Penguins watch party, had the NFL game on a

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Speaker 1: couple screens too, just to packed house. So really enjoying

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Speaker 1: doing those things, even more so with the Penguins playing well.

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Speaker 1: And don't forget how much celebrations and Imperial Sunday nights

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Speaker 1: to watch the Penguins at the Penguins. I wish the

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Speaker 1: Steelers hand the Green Bay Packers Penguins watch parties now

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Speaker 1: with a young, fresh team doing so good.

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Speaker 2: They're just a joy.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers when things go bad and it's stale from

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Speaker 1: the get go, like the Baton Death March, but we

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Speaker 1: have fun because we're drinking, and I'll be drinking at

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Speaker 1: celebrations Sunday night, believe you me, so please be there.

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Speaker 2: Gonna have a lot of fun. This NBA thing.

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Speaker 1: How come nobody tells me when games are fixed? Prop

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Speaker 1: bets whatever, help a brother. I you know, if I

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Speaker 1: got toll the game was fixed, I wouldn't rat. I

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Speaker 1: would bet, no question. But this Benning skin, like this

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Speaker 1: Rosier guy. Dudes are flushing NBA paychecks to win chump

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Speaker 1: change by gambling.

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Speaker 2: Total idiotcy. But some people just like to grift.

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Speaker 1: They just like that thrill the art of the steel, like,

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Speaker 1: for example, the Pirate's owner, our buddy, Logan Cooley with

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Speaker 1: three goals and an assist last night for Utah West

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Speaker 1: Mifflin's own Cole's got five goals in eight games. There

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Speaker 1: I am with the locker room nicknamed Coles. I hate

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Speaker 1: myself Utah six and dude, just like the Penguins. Logan Cooley,

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Speaker 1: twenty one years old, New World Order, Man, I love hockey.

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Speaker 1: By the way, those three goals for Koley natural hattie, hattie.

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Speaker 1: There I go again, hat trick, three consecutive goals and

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Speaker 1: scored in under five minutes.

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Speaker 2: Kid is a phenom.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I'm serious about the Steelers showing they're not full of crap,

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Speaker 1: which I think they are and have been for quite

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Speaker 1: some time. But if they're not, just beat green Bay,

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Speaker 1: prove to me it's not the same old Stiller season.

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Speaker 1: It's difficult for me to analyze this game. My only

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Speaker 1: advice to the Steelers is, don't be full of crap.

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Speaker 1: If the Steelers do win, it's gonna be Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: is doing. Oh here's some more advice for the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Be prepared to score thirty points or you don't win. Heck,

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Speaker 1: maybe thirty five. How about forty? Better safe than sorry. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I I think that green Bay, I mean green Bay's

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Speaker 1: favorite on the road for a reason, and they're my

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Speaker 1: preseason pick, you may recall to win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: But Green Bay's been a little disappointing.

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Speaker 1: We think the Steeler's been a lot disappointing because we

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Speaker 1: same old steel feel. But the Steelers, I mean four

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Speaker 1: they're they're one game worse. Green Based four to one

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Speaker 1: lose to Cleveland barely beat Arizona. Offense is okay, fourteenth ranked,

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Speaker 1: at at four and two, they needed a sixty yard

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Speaker 1: field goal to beat the Jets at the death, and

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Speaker 1: the Jets are clearly the worst team in football. The

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Speaker 1: Steelers gonna have played badly at New England and Fluke

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Speaker 1: down Win got beat by Joe Flacco. So both these

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Speaker 1: teams on Sunday night need to answer some questions, need

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Speaker 1: to prove they're not full of crap. And if not

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Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers, the Steelers would be two and four

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Speaker 1: something like that. That's why he's my favorite Steeler. They're

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Speaker 1: lucky to be four and two. And here's something nobody

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Speaker 1: wants to like talk about it loud, but I bet

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Speaker 1: you agree.

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Speaker 2: I bet you agreed. What needs to do more? Watt's

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Speaker 2: killing him.

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Speaker 1: Forty one million paycheck and he's only had two good games.

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Speaker 2: Like I would.

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Speaker 1: Say, when you're making that kind of money out of

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Speaker 1: six games, how many great games?

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Speaker 2: Should you play? I would say five.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's the Mark Manx.

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Speaker 1: Doublem on the ex Brett michaels a poison in his

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Speaker 1: solo band, and Butler. He's actually playing a few songs

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Speaker 1: Sunday night at Acres Shore.

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Speaker 2: At halftime at the Steeler game.

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Speaker 1: That's a big deal for Brett, a big Steeler fan,

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Speaker 1: good friends with Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 2: Brett's gonna join me at three point thirty to talk

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Speaker 2: about that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I got a penguin's idea, because they're gonna keep

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Speaker 1: Bernican kindle. Berney got scratched last night, but the occasional

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Speaker 1: scratch for both guys is part of that. It's load management.

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Speaker 1: It's actually a giveaway that they're sticking around.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: My worry is that them winning this much early will

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Speaker 1: as ridiculous as that sounds with them currently being six

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Speaker 1: with guys like Tommy Novak and Philip Hollander and learns

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Speaker 1: to be a third liner like we talked about Alexey

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Speaker 1: and Riquel period, and I don't want Kindle to play

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Speaker 1: with Malkin. I just don't think that would work. So

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Speaker 1: put Kindle in center his proper position, really, and have

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Speaker 1: a line of Kindle between Conan and McGarty. When McGarty

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Speaker 1: returns from injury, I'll call up Tristan bros. In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: and obviously bring Coyvenon back. I can't believe he stayed

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Speaker 1: at Wilkes this long, So I would have Kindle Conon

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Speaker 1: and either McGroarty or bros. And have a kid line,

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Speaker 1: give him third line minutes, but let him play like

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Speaker 1: their top six in terms of style and approach. Let

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Speaker 1: him grow to and Kindle its center. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: his position. So that's what I would do. Do I

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Speaker 1: think they will, No, I don't, but that's what I

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Speaker 1: would do. I think Kindle in terms of being like

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Speaker 1: a really solid second line center, like twenty twenty five goals,

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Speaker 1: sixty sixty five points, maybe more than that in some

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Speaker 1: good years, I've seen enough to think he's can't miss.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if he's just good at eighteen, I mean,

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Speaker 1: for Heck's sake, But that doesn't mean that they can't

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Speaker 1: screw it up. I think they're more likely to screw

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Speaker 1: it up for him than Kindle is to screw it

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Speaker 1: up on his own. Let's talk out of Tommy Radio.

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Speaker 1: Tom what's your take on that idea? A kid line?

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Speaker 5: I love it, especially if they won't be willing to

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Speaker 5: put Kendle on Crosby's wing, which is something that you

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Speaker 5: have said they should do or experiment with. They should

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Speaker 5: the kids line. Let Kendall play with some other dudes

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Speaker 5: that have some actual skill. I mean he's doing given

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Speaker 5: mark like imagine if he had some actual skill players

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, no, that's skilled. He just isn't skilled enough.

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Speaker 2: He's not who we're talking about. But fair play.

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Speaker 1: He made a nice connection with Kendall on that goal.

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Speaker 1: But but Kendall playing indefinitely with Bummy third liners won't work.

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Speaker 2: It won't develop him.

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Speaker 1: So, like I said, the kid line or Kindle with Crosby,

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Speaker 1: I see, is dent only two options for the sake

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Speaker 2: Is Kendall a bigger sensation of Brunick? Right now? Does

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Speaker 2: Kendall have more buzz? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: But isn't that kind of easier for a forward to

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Speaker 5: capture that if he's, you know, no question playing better

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Speaker 5: putting up points like that's just more of an obvious

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Speaker 5: thing like Brunick's game is a little less obvious. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm not denigrating.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying in terms of buzz, in terms of

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Speaker 2: Like me see it, I think Kendall has a bit

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Speaker 1: A record of six and two is great, tied for

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Speaker 1: most points in the Eastern Conference. That's great. I still

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Speaker 1: feel like coyven it should be in Pittsburgh. I'm worried.

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Speaker 1: Like I said that, the good start scores the development aspect.

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Speaker 2: However, temporarily, I.

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Speaker 5: Really can't figure out why Covenan is not in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Had two games was.

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Speaker 1: Part you could send him done. He didn't have to

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Speaker 1: clear waivers, but I would have done the last well.

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Speaker 1: And also, I think there's only so many veterans you

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Speaker 2: I think that might have been part of it.

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Speaker 1: The point is, in terms of in terms of administration,

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Speaker 5: That last part would make more sense to me if

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Speaker 5: they're limited with the amount of veterans that they can

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Speaker 5: send through waivers, Because if that's not the case and

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Speaker 5: that's concerned, who cares about sending.

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Speaker 2: A bomby veteran through waivers to keep covining.

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Speaker 1: But you already got a guy like Ryan Graves looks boy.

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Speaker 1: I wonder how he feels his career right now.

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Speaker 2: Forgot about that he's playing Wilkes. He's getting huge money,

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Speaker 2: you know, to play Wilkes.

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Speaker 1: I wonder what his teammates will like if they make

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Speaker 1: him like by dinner or you know, because.

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Speaker 2: He's the dynamic. He's the rich guy on that bus.

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Speaker 2: But he is on the bus.

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Speaker 5: But you had to swallow that pride of every team

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Speaker 5: passing and you buy when you went on waivers.

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Speaker 2: No thanks, we don't need Wyan Graves.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I think of Ryan Graves, has watched video of

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Speaker 1: himself played the last few years. He swallowed his pride

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Speaker 1: They're just something to fill space. Correct If he taken

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Speaker 5: Looks like he's going to be pretty good, but they're

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Speaker 1: As far as a rebuild, I still wish they would

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Speaker 2: I think what fourth rob by Montreal is gonna turn out?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a game, but I think it would

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Speaker 1: I really like the revival of the Penguins Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 2: Right now, without a question.

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Speaker 1: Chauncey Billips, the Portland coach, told the wrong people that

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Speaker 1: he was gonna, you know, shit x amount of starters

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Speaker 1: in a game, and of course that that swung the

442
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Speaker 1: betting dramatically against Portland. And if that's not game fixing,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what is. But I also suspect that

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Speaker 1: the broadcast partners will sweep it under the rug after

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Speaker 1: a fashion. I watch ESPN. They're having a very difficult

446
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Speaker 1: time reporting it because you can tell they're not sure

447
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Speaker 1: what they should and shouldn't say. And Greeney was on

448
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 1: and the crawl underneath was a plug for a sports

449
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: betting service, and they literally in the middle of him talking,

450
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Speaker 1: replaced the crawl because they realize.

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Speaker 5: That just looks looks really bad right now. You know,

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Speaker 5: they will try to ignore this, but it's too big

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Speaker 5: to go away. I mean, a sitting head coach was

454
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Speaker 5: just arrested.

455
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Speaker 2: You know what, I think you should be right.

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Speaker 1: I think you might be wrong anyway, because look at

457
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Speaker 1: the O Tawny thing, Oh Tony Gamble.

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Speaker 5: He's on baseball, there's no question, and he's the biggest

459
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Speaker 5: baseball player on the face of the They just.

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Speaker 1: Weren't gonna let that, you know, play out like the

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Speaker 1: rules say it should have.

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Speaker 5: It just is such a bad look for the league

463
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Speaker 5: almost I think they view it this way. If they

464
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Speaker 5: admit how big of a deal this is, they're thinking, oh,

465
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Speaker 5: then no one's gonna think we're credible. It's almost better

466
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Speaker 5: for us to just sweep this under the ruck and

467
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Speaker 5: be like, nothing's wrong here, don't worry about this.

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Speaker 1: Do you agree with my theory that they should go

469
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Speaker 1: to all the sports books, the legal ones, Vegas online,

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Speaker 1: the sponsors, fandor you know the names, and say no

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Speaker 1: more prop bets, no more over under for minutes, points

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Speaker 1: assists that stuff, because those are bets that one guy

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Speaker 1: can fix. If it's a bet you need more than

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Speaker 1: one guy. I guess having the coach billups would would

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Speaker 1: would would have served the purpose. But do you think

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Speaker 1: getting rid of prop bets would be a good idea? Now?

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Speaker 5: Would that just transfer them to like the black market?

478
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Speaker 5: Though offshore betting like it kind of used.

479
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Speaker 2: To be probably easier to catch.

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Speaker 5: Really, I think the legal betting might be easier to

481
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Speaker 5: catch because it's more trackable. You know, you have to

482
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Speaker 5: make these bets on these apps, they pinpoint data on

483
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Speaker 5: their You're right from that.

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Speaker 1: Standpoint, but I think if you eliminated those bets on

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Speaker 1: the legal apps, then you could focus on on what's

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Speaker 1: going on with would well, yeah, you're right, there would

487
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Speaker 1: always be offshore apps where you could Yeah. Maybe, I

488
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Speaker 1: don't know that. My idea of eliminating the prop bets

489
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Speaker 1: is probably better in theory than it would be to

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Speaker 1: actually eliminate the problem.

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Speaker 5: And you're just never putting that back in Pandora's box

492
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Speaker 5: once you open that. I mean, prop bets are so

493
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Speaker 5: damn popular.

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Speaker 1: Well plus which two if you're like you know FanDuel

495
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Speaker 1: or bet Parks, who you know obviously we have an

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Speaker 1: affiliation with, i'd go to the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Now, we're not doing that. Clean up your own.

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Speaker 5: House, Oh absolutely, because it really ruins our credibility as

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Speaker 5: a casino, as a book. If we're allowing bets on

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Speaker 5: a league that is getting fixed, we don't want that

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Speaker 5: as part of our business.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you on that. Now here's another thing

503
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Speaker 2: of the NBA.

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Speaker 1: This stuck in my craw and I tweeted about it

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Speaker 1: and got roundly criticized by the NBA fans who follow

506
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Speaker 1: my account. All like six or seven of them went

507
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Speaker 1: by Ama, the big seven foot five guy for San Antonio.

508
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Speaker 1: He was driving and he pulled up at the arc

509
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Speaker 1: and made a three, and people said how great that was.

510
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Speaker 1: I don't want a seven foot five guy hitting threes.

511
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Speaker 1: I want a seven foot five guy dominating the paint,

512
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Speaker 1: throwing elbows like Will Chamberlain, played like Will Chamberlain, not

513
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Speaker 1: Steph Curry. But it goes to show, which I've said

514
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Speaker 1: for years, how they should have got rid of the

515
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Speaker 1: three point line after X amount of years, because it's

516
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: warped the game and taken the taking the pick and

517
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Speaker 1: roll out of the game, and taking a lot of

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Speaker 1: the toughness Don Low out of the game. Is evidenced

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Speaker 1: by when Bayama hitting a three and everybody thinking how

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Speaker 1: great it is.

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Speaker 5: He's just a stick figure, Webin Yama. I mean, there's

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Speaker 5: just no meat on those bones. And I think the

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Speaker 5: three pointer has become a poison to the league as well.

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Speaker 5: It has just become too relied on. I mean the

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Speaker 5: Celtics kind of were overkilled with that for the past

526
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Speaker 5: couple years. They should, like, fifty three is a game

527
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 5: or something like that's boring to watch the web and

528
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Speaker 5: Yama step back three is unbelievable to see. It's weird

529
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Speaker 5: that somebody that big can even do that. I kind

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Speaker 5: of hate that people are glombing onto that mark as

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Speaker 5: the marvel because there's like five dunks in this game

532
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Speaker 5: between the Spurs and Dallas that Webbin Yama had driving

533
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Speaker 5: to the hoop, reverse jams alley oops, they're sick plays.

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Speaker 2: Those should be the places people should be focusing on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the seven foot five guy hitting the three

536
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Speaker 1: is the more unusual at least, I guess I mean Durant.

537
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Speaker 2: I mean, how close Durant. Durant's like seven foot Durant

538
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Speaker 2: pull up for threes a lot all the time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I guess it's unusual to see that,

540
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 5: but it's also unusual to see you. I'm watching it

541
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Speaker 5: right now. This dude pump, fake drive, dribble into the

542
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 5: lane and throw a reverse jam down.

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Speaker 2: I mean that stuff. Lebron does not seven foot five dudes.

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00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, but how have they improved since he got there?

545
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: Because he was This is the year he was the

546
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: big hope for them. This is his third year now

547
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Speaker 1: in the league, and he looked awesome in Game one.

548
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: This is the year the Spurs should make the playoffs

549
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: and make noise. If not, it's a problem.

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Speaker 2: This shows my NBA ignorance. Is Pop still coaching? Nah,

551
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 2: he stepped down. Yeah, he was getting old and kind

552
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Speaker 2: of think that, right, I think he did that, you know,

553
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 2: transition to the front office thing, who's the coach stops?

554
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: He fixed games?

555
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Speaker 5: I think he's on the up and up because he

556
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Speaker 5: was like Pop. He Pop groomed him for years, you

557
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 5: know what I mean. So he's like Pop junior. So

558
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Speaker 5: so he's not fixing a game. He's not gonna fix games.

559
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Speaker 2: Well he's not. He's not my kind of coach.

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Speaker 5: Then you think Pop was fixing games? No, No, so

561
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Speaker 5: much integrity.

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Speaker 1: I you know, dude, I think basketball is a sport

563
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Speaker 1: that lends itself most easily to fix it.

564
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Speaker 2: You yes, point shaving.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever read any stories you know, Henry Hill,

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Speaker 1: the Good Fellaws, Rayleota's character, how they fixed games of

567
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: Boston College. It was a thirty for thirty thirty and

568
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: raccoon from Swissvale was the was the main player involved

569
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Speaker 1: in the fixing.

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Speaker 5: And then there was the ref in the nineties what

571
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 5: was his name, It was like Tim Donnegey or something

572
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 5: like that, and they swept that under the rocks, right

573
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 5: under the ruck. The league has had the league and

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00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 5: the sport because Henry Hill was College has had a

575
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 5: very long history of this happening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but but the thirty for thirty was really good.

577
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Speaker 1: The one guard, I forget the guard's name, but he

578
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: denies to this day he was involved.

579
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Speaker 5: Boxing is still the king sport when it comes to

580
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 5: the fixes in right, all right, because you can do

581
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 5: it with one guy over you do with one guy.

582
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. This Steeler game, Tom, we should probably

583
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: get back to talking about that. So don't you agree

584
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: that both teams are full of crap, that they have

585
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: a lot to prove like green Bay?

586
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 2: Green Bay is a week four to one and one.

587
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: The Steelers are a week four and two. They're full

588
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 2: of crap right now.

589
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 5: But I just think green Bay is a team that's

590
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 5: gonna prove something eventually. Maybe it's not this game and

591
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 5: the Steelers get lucky there there might pick to win

592
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl still after the kind of an astar

593
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 5: you never revise your pick.

594
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: You know, if you're gonna make a pick at the

595
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: beginning of the year, it you know, you gotta stick

596
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: with it and see if it plays out.

597
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 5: But I think there is a game coming for the

598
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 5: Packers where it's like we put this all together, like

599
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 5: we're running the ball, well, then Love's playing off the

600
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 5: running game our defense.

601
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 2: When they beat the crap out of Detroit week one,

602
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 2: that's week one. Though things can be weird in week

603
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: one in this league this year, things can be weird

604
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: every weekend. In fact are yeah, no doubt.

605
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 5: So it is a proving ground for them to I

606
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 5: just go back and forth how I think this game

607
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 5: is gonna go. The one thing you said at the

608
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Speaker 5: beginning of the show that I completely agree with get

609
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 5: ready to score thirty plus points Steelers, because I don't

610
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 5: see this playing out in any way, But to not.

611
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: Get ready to do it because like sometimes they score,

612
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: like like against Cinci, their intent was to win a

613
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: rock fight, and like it always is every game, and

614
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: then Flacco started, you know, going off, and they had to.

615
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: Rogers had to keep up, right exactly.

616
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Speaker 1: I think it would be better if the Steelers like

617
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: like conceded the first touchdown and they had to you know,

618
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: catch up right away and got in that groove. I

619
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: I think the way they approach games is a detriment,

620
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: not least not that they have er Rogers at quarterback.

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Speaker 5: That's kind of how the Sincy game last year started

622
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 5: when russ autdueled Joe Burrow. Remember he threw the pick

623
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 5: six on like the first play, and they got into

624
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 5: that hole and that forced them into a game that

625
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 5: was high flying and not the rock fight. So yeah,

626
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,239
Speaker 5: maybe getting down seven nothing wouldn't be the worst thing.

627
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: Ever, who's the best team in the NFC right now?

628
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: I think it's Detroit. I think it's still Detroit, even

629
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: though green Bay beat him. Even though green Bay beat him,

630
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: and we're a green Bay rank among the teams in

631
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: the NFC, they might be the runner up. They might

632
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: be number two Rams Tampa green Bay. That's like right

633
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: in Philly too, because of the defending champs. They're like,

634
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: right Philly, AJ Brown's doing his best to be ab

635
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: and blow the team up.

636
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: But they had an awesome guy doing Now, why would you,

637
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: I mean, you're defending Super Bowl champs. I mean, is

638
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: it more important for him to get the ball? And

639
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: the answer is, of course yes, he's a wide receiver.

640
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: For him, it is.

641
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 5: And this is gonna sound weird coming off of the

642
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 5: week he had, but I said it going into that week,

643
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:49,239
Speaker 5: I trade him.

644
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: If I was Philly, I get rid of him. You

645
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: have enough weather Steelers.

646
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 5: Absolutely to the Steelers for like a seventh round pick,

647
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 5: maybe for free, but you have enough in Philly to

648
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 5: survive without a j. Brown want to dismiss a number

649
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 5: one give the ball to Saquon a million time.

650
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: You know, there's still those.

651
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: In the Pittsburgh media and some fans too, but mostly media.

652
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: The fans have seen the light that think they should

653
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: have kept pickets. Poppy and he says that all the

654
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: time that they should have kept pickets.

655
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: You don't win with guys like that. Cowboys aren't gonna

656
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: win with a guy like that.

657
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: But here's here's the one argument you could make for

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Speaker 1: keeping pickets. He is in a contract year and couldn't

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Speaker 1: afford to f around, and clearly he's not in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: But by the same token, idiots don't pay attention to

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Speaker 1: stuff like that when it's time to.

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Speaker 2: Lose the rack.

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Speaker 5: I just keep coming back to the point too, that

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers, like, if you're the fourth or fifth option

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Speaker 5: on a play, you might get the ball, and Pickens

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Speaker 5: just quit on way too many plays.

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Speaker 2: I could see it right now.

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Speaker 5: If Pickens will still here, there be moments where Rodgers

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Speaker 5: wild like throw a ball and hit off the side

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Speaker 5: of his helmet because he was walking up the field.

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Speaker 1: And Rodgers would hate picks. Oh, he spies there would

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Speaker 1: be a problem between the two. By now I.

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Speaker 2: Think yeah, I mean Rodgers gets snippy.

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Speaker 5: When Jalen Warren throws the flea ficker that he wasn't expecting,

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Speaker 5: what do you think he would do?

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Speaker 2: The pickens now hold it.

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Speaker 1: I would have got pretty pissed myself, because that's like

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Speaker 1: balls back in your hands right right with with like

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Speaker 1: the entire team coming your way.

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Speaker 2: He like just spiked it at Darnell's feet after it.

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Speaker 1: It was clearly pissed right in the moment second like

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Speaker 1: he sold big time.

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Speaker 2: He didn't even look downfield if somebody did leak open,

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Speaker 2: he was just like, how's that happen? How does one

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Speaker 2: guy I think it's still a flea flicker?

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Speaker 5: How's the one guy that needs to get the check

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Speaker 5: not get the check that this is off? Like everybody

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Speaker 5: else who thinks it's still a flee flicker is fine.

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Speaker 5: As long as the running back just runs up the middle,

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Speaker 5: we're good.

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Speaker 1: That's one where if I'm Rogers next time, I would

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Speaker 1: like cut my hands around my mouth to go it's

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Speaker 1: not a flea flicker like Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: Did you see that?

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Speaker 5: Mahomes did the fake fake snap against the Raiders where

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Speaker 5: he went to the line on like fourth and one.

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Speaker 5: I was like hot at that and they didn't jump,

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Speaker 5: and he went this never fin works. Guys like said

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Speaker 5: it loud, try to sell it to the sideline. And

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Speaker 5: then he went right under center again and snapped the

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Speaker 5: ball and they ran it up the middle.

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Speaker 1: Not a big fan, that's high school. The first guy

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Speaker 1: to kind of do that. Dan Marino did the fake

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Speaker 1: spike and then threw.

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Speaker 5: A touchdown back way bended it too, remember against the

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Speaker 5: Cowboys to ab they the Steelers ended up losing the

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Speaker 5: game because Tomlins defense blew it.

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Speaker 2: Do you like stuff like that?

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Speaker 5: I think it's too card I like the fake spike.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's Dan Marino, Ben Roethli's. The two most

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Speaker 5: famous occurrences are a Steeler and then a Pitt Panther

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Speaker 5: and Dan Marino.

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Speaker 2: But he did it as a dolphin and Dan Marino.

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Speaker 1: I still say, no matter whether he won a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: which he did in Best Quarterback of All Time one

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Speaker 1: oh five ninety X.

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Speaker 7: Tomorrow Nights, the Pens take on the Blue Jackets.

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Speaker 2: Game time is seven.

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Speaker 5: best coverage right here on your home of the Pens

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Speaker 5: one five nine d X.

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Speaker 7: It's got twice Hound's on the increase today with a

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Speaker 7: chance on DX.

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Speaker 1: Got Bret Michael's a poison and Butler Pa He joins

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Speaker 1: me at three point thirty. He's playing a couple songs

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Speaker 1: with his solo band in halftime at Akroshore Stadium Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: Got Charlie Batch at four o'clock.

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Speaker 1: UH. The Mark Mannen pregame show brought to was by

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Speaker 2: What have we got for today's trifecta?

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Speaker 5: For today's trifecta, I've got three Packers who will wreck

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Speaker 5: the Steelers on Sunday, or it'll be very likely that

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Speaker 5: they'll wreck the Steelers. Number three, I'm not gonna go

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Speaker 5: with the player, gonna go with the head coach, Matt Lafleur.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a big coaching mismatch in this one. Now,

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Speaker 5: we kind of said this with Kevin O'Connell and the Vikings.

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Speaker 5: But the Vikings stink this year. Lafleur's got some actual

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Speaker 5: talent to work with on that offensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 5: Such a successful coach in Green Bay. He wins like

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Speaker 5: thirteen twelve games almost every single year. And Tomlin and

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Speaker 5: Terrell Austin defense is just right for the picking right now.

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Speaker 1: I think it says a lot about Lafleur that he

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Speaker 1: negotiated the transition from Rogers to Love seamlessly, whereas Tomlins

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Speaker 1: never worked it out with the single quarterback since Ben.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Lafleur's in that category of just offensive minds

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Speaker 5: that I really trust in this league.

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Speaker 2: Number two.

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Speaker 5: I didn't include Micah Parsons in this list. I think

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Speaker 5: that's just obvious because he wrecks almost every game. I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna go with Shaun Garry, though, the other pass rusher

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Speaker 5: that they have, because the Steelers are gonna jumbo package Parsons.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna pay a ton of attention to Parsons, just

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Speaker 5: like they did Miles Garrett, except the Browns don't have

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Speaker 5: someone like Rashawn Gary, someone that can truly be like

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Speaker 5: that Rod.

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Speaker 2: In that class.

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Speaker 5: No, so Gary is someone that I would be worried

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Speaker 5: about wrecking this game. He's gonna get a lot of

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Speaker 5: probably one on one matchups. Josh Jacobs is number one, though,

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Speaker 5: How could you not pick a running back of his

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Speaker 5: caliber after you've seen what the running back of Chase

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Speaker 5: Brown's caliber did to the Steelers last week.

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Speaker 1: I think that Jacobs and Jonathan Taylor next week with

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Speaker 1: Indy Taylor, oh my god, are gonna put a stake

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Speaker 1: in the heart of the Steelers season now. And I

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Speaker 1: think that at the end of the day, at the

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Speaker 1: end of these next two games, people are gonna finally

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Speaker 1: halfwack knowledge how badly the defense has let this team down.

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Speaker 5: Now, when you look at jacobs year this year, he's

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Speaker 5: three point seven yards per carry, only like four hundred

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Speaker 5: and fourteen yards here, Like that's not that impressive. He

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Speaker 5: has three straight games of two plus rushing touchdowns. He

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Speaker 5: scored a rushing touchdown on almost every game period this year,

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Speaker 5: and he has the most games tied with Jonathan Taylor

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Speaker 5: back in twenty twenty four, six occurrences of two plus

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Speaker 5: rushing touchdowns in a game, like the dude just finds

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Speaker 5: the end zone. You want to talk about a prop

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Speaker 5: bet you should put someone anytime touchdown. For Josh Jacobs,

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Speaker 5: he almost always scores.

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Speaker 1: I would go under and then see if he would

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Speaker 1: take himself out of the game early Josh Jacobs, Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean if it works in the NBA, well I would,

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Speaker 1: I mean, but if they're ahead, yeah, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: know not, I mean, okay, I'd fix it.

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Speaker 2: If I could.

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Speaker 5: I would love to be on the inside of a fix,

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Speaker 5: like you said earlier in the show, and again I

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Speaker 5: like you, I would not rat. I would totally ride it.

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Speaker 5: I'd be nervous as hell to ride it though, right,

792
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 5: like you get burned because you've got to put a

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Speaker 5: lot up to it if it's going to be fixed.

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Speaker 1: And it invariably is going to be found out because

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Speaker 1: look at Rosier, like who the freak would bet on

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Speaker 1: his prop on his over under, but like in an

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Speaker 1: orderate amount of money came in on I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: how they caught him.

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Speaker 2: It's easy to catch that.

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Speaker 5: And Terror's ear signed a one hundred million dollar contract

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Speaker 5: just recently and it's fully guaranteed in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Like, what are you doing? Why are you flushing that up?

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Speaker 2: That's addiction? No, it's not it's not guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: Well no, Actually, there was a good debate on Inside

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Speaker 1: the NBA with Kenny Smith and Charles Barkley, where Kenny

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Speaker 1: Smith said was an addiction and Charles Brooker said, nah,

807
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Speaker 1: he goes, I gambled a lot. It's stupidity. Hain, no addiction,

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Speaker 1: it's stupidity. You're flushing an NBA contract. But but like

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Speaker 1: I said earlier, I hesitate to weigh in fully on

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Speaker 1: either addiction or stupidity. I think some guys, like I said,

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Speaker 1: just like the grift, just like the feeling of getting

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Speaker 1: away with something, and the money's almost just the bonus.

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Speaker 5: It's not the gamble. It's not the money part of

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Speaker 5: the gamble. It's that you're screwing somebody else over apart. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that just kind of makes a bad person, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: and Packers Sunday night. Don't forget I'll be watching the

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