1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike, Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati. 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 2: From Cincinnati. 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 3: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sport Station. 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, let's cut right to it. 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: It's hour number two on a Tuesday, which means we 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: go to our guy from Fox nineteen. Joe Daniman is 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: standing by to join us and kick off our number two. 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: Joey D. What's going on? 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 3: Hi, Tony, Hi, Audi Tony. How was the Saint Patrick's 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 3: Day Parade on Fox nineteen? Now? 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: It was electric. I did not realize the parade was 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: as big as it is. The coverage was great, I 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: did say earlier in the show. Once I got through 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: my portion of the parade, I walked back and watched 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: the rest of the parade with my family. I attempted 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: to split a G on a Guinness and I'll say this, 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: in my mind, I thought I was gonna like stop drinking. 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: It was gonna be like halfway done, and I was 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: gonna be well passed the G. I mean, I was 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: inches away from even getting to the G. It was 21 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: a terrible effort. Outside of that effort, awesome day, awesome crowd, 22 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: awesome parade, and great coverage by the way. 23 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: That's an early afternoon Guinness. 24 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, although some of the people on the 25 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: parade route had started much earlier than I did. I 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: will say that I've got to ask before we dive 27 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: into this today. I said this at the start of 28 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: the show filling out NCAA tournament brackets. I remember the 29 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: days where they wheeled the TV into school on the Thursday. 30 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: Like I'm that old, I feel like. But I also 31 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: am old enough that I would get like the paper 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: when it came out and fill it out in the paper. 33 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: I'm still to this day a fill out a bracket 34 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: on paper and pen type of guy. 35 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: Are you that. 36 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: Way or are you just now online and you got 37 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: a couple of clicks and your brackets done? 38 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: Paper? 39 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: Pen I mean it has to be penn It cannot 40 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: be penciled. Nothing can beat erased. I'm very much like 41 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: Dan Patrick, a one bracket of integrity kind of guy. 42 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 3: And when I was a kid, Tony, this was before 43 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: the internet, Okay, I would have four pieces of loose 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: leaf paper. I would have a ruler and I would 45 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: measure out each part of the bracket so it filled 46 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: out the entire page. And then I would get a 47 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: piece of scrap paper, and as Greg Gumble went through 48 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: each team, I would write them down quickly what region 49 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: they're going to, and then I would fill out my 50 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: bracket and it was so beautiful. 51 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: I used to keep it in like. 52 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: A folder and I would fill it in as the 53 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 3: teams won to kind of keep track of who won 54 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 3: and lost, and then look at how I was doing 55 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: in my predictions. But I always say this, okay, and 56 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: I give one piece of bracket advice for a guy 57 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 3: who has wanted I think three times last year I 58 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: had the perfect first. 59 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: Round man two to zero and one zero dollars? How 60 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: is that possible? 61 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 3: And how I lost Cooper flag and Continipple choked against Houston. 62 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: Ye couldn't get otherwise I would have gotten it. 63 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 3: So my advice is this, look at winning your tournament bracket, 64 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: whatever office pull you're in. You have to find value 65 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: in the champion, because you're not going to win unless 66 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: you pick the champion. Correction the way seeds and points 67 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: are weighted in whatever bracket pull you're in. Unless you 68 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: think there's a dominant team that there's no way they're 69 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: going to lose, Like when you think about the Jalen 70 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: Brunson and Michale Bridges and Dante Devincenzo Villanova. Team no 71 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: one was going to beat them. You put them in 72 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: the championship and you work back. Otherwise, you try to 73 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: find value in the champion. Like the year Virginia one. 74 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: No one wanted to pick Virginia. There's a one seed 75 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 3: no one wanted to pick, and I said, Okay, there's 76 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: my value. 77 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: It's like gambling. 78 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: Where should I find the value? And so I put 79 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: Virginia's champion, work back and won the office pool. 80 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: Manow Well, I have to add to that because it 81 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: is March Madness, and it's different this time of the 82 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: year because we're used to, or I've felt like I've 83 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: been used to growing up so many local teams being 84 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: a part of the tournament. We haven't had that as 85 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: of late. We don't have it this year. Uc has 86 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: moved on from Wes Miller. I think Wes Miller lost 87 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: his job in the final two minutes against UCF. I 88 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: think if that game goes differently, he's probably still the 89 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: coach of the Bearcats. They have moved on. What did 90 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: you make of the decision to move on from Wes Miller? 91 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: And I know it's early in the process, but does 92 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: it feel like a clear cut number one that they 93 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: need to go to right now? 94 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, don't make this process harder than it needs to be. 95 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 3: If you have a candidate that stands out the way 96 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: that Jared Calhoun does, I think you jump on it 97 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: and look due process, right, you talk to other people, 98 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 3: you look at other people. But if everyone I talked 99 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 3: to who's involved in program or played for UC previously, 100 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: he says they want someone who gets UC basketball. And 101 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: I think sometimes a lot of those folks lean too 102 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: much into the Huggins era a little bit. And I 103 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 3: get it because those were the glory years for people 104 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: in our generation. But I do think there is some 105 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: merit to having someone who understands Cincinnati basketball and having 106 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: at least a little bit of a taste of what 107 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: it means to the program and to the city of Cincinnati. 108 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 3: And Jered Calhoun checks that box. He also checks the 109 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 3: box up. He's gone to Utah State, which is a 110 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 3: higher mid major in the Mountain West, and has now 111 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: gone to back to back n CAA tournaments two years. 112 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 3: So if you're talking about checking boxes, that's a guy 113 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: who's checking a lot of boxes. But to your original 114 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: question about Wes Miller, in the idea of him now 115 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 3: moving on from Cincinnati and Cincinnati moving on from him, 116 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: this felt like year five it had to be NCAA 117 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 3: tournament or bust. And if that was the feeling in 118 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: the fan base and for people who watched the team, 119 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: I'm glad it was the same feeling for the people 120 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 3: who make decisions about this. I think it's important to 121 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 3: say this West Miller's a good coach. He's not a 122 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: bad coach. I do think the guy can be successful. 123 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: But for whatever reason, it didn't click here in Cincinnati. 124 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: Five years is a long enough window. He didn't get 125 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: it done, he didn't go to the tournament. It was 126 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: time to move on. 127 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 4: How big of a learning curve do you think there 128 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 4: is for a coach like let's say Calhoun coming from 129 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 4: Utah State jumping immediately to the Big Twelve, which many 130 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 4: believe is the best basketball conference in the country. Like 131 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,559 Speaker 4: what should the runway be? Like what should the grace 132 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 4: period be? Because that's not easy. I mean for any coach, it's. 133 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: Not I do think there's a little bit of a 134 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 3: grace period for him this year with the transfer portal 135 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 3: date being a little bit later than it was for 136 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: saying Richard Patino making the jump from New Mexico to Xavier. 137 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 3: And I know that's not exactly apples to apples, considering 138 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: how much you See has in its nil fund to 139 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: pay for its roster compared to what Xavier does. But 140 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: you saw the late start that Richard Patino had trying 141 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: to build the team he had e Xavier, and then 142 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: you saw the result this year of a losing record 143 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: in his first year in a power conference. But with 144 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: you See, and whoever they decide to bring in the coach, 145 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 3: and let's just say for conversation's sake, it's Jared Calhoun. 146 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: The portal doesn't open until April seventh. You tossed eight. 147 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: Let's be honest, is going to be eliminated by the 148 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: end of this weekend unless they shock the world and 149 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: beat Arizona in the second round after beating Villanova in 150 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: the first round. And then you've answered your question about 151 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: a guy who can beat teams of the Big twelve. 152 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: So you have to look at it for two reasons. 153 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: For two ways he gets the extra time it would 154 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: take to find guys in the portal. But also you're 155 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 3: not just jumping into the Big twelve where the talent 156 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 3: is a different level than he's coached against. But you're 157 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: also coaching against some of the best coaches in the country, 158 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: and this is going to be a trial by fire 159 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 3: for a guy in his first year. If they do 160 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: go with Jared Calhoun going up against the Kelvin Sampsons 161 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: and the bill selves and pick whatever big name coach 162 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: you want to pick in the Big twelve, to me, 163 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 3: that's what's most interesting. I think we'll get his roster. 164 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: We've seen the support the program has for the fan 165 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: base from the donors, because even last year when you 166 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: see was struggling, they still had ten thousand plus in 167 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: the building. That's there, That infrastructure is there. To me, 168 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: it's can he coach with and against some of the 169 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: best coaches in the country. 170 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: In the background of all this going on, we're now 171 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: nine days away from opening day, and we just had 172 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: this conversation earlier in the show, Joe. Because you're kind 173 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: of taught and it's talked about in spring training, don't 174 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: overreact to everything going on in spring training. Guys are 175 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: working on stuff you don't really have a clear understanding yet. 176 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: Hunter Green's not going to be available till July. There's 177 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 1: been some uncertainty around Chase Burns in the last week 178 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: or so with innings and what they're doing with him, 179 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: and then your opening day starter. I get it. Spring 180 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: Training has thrown thirteen innings in spring training, twenty four 181 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: hits in twenty runs. Is there a point now under 182 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: ten days away where you do find yourself a little 183 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: bit concerned about this rotation, which is clear and above 184 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: supposed to be the strength of this roster. 185 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 3: So we talked at the start of this conversation about 186 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 3: bracket strategy, right, and Austin has invited me into the 187 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 3: Sincy three to sixty bracket challenge and I will not 188 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 3: fill that out until eleven fifty on Thursday morning because 189 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: I want all the information they can get about these teams. 190 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 3: And that's not me diving in and reading things. It's 191 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: like the situation in Alabama. What if something happens to 192 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 3: one of these star players for these teams. That's why 193 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: I don't want to make any predictions until I have to. 194 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: That's why I want to walk back. Since you're read 195 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: I shouldn't have done that until opening that I put 196 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: it out there. I got pedigree in my back around Austin. 197 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: I'm going for it. 198 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 3: You said concern, I'm curious. I don't know if I'm 199 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: concerned at this point. Certainly, Hunter Green's injury is a 200 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: big ding, There's no doubt about it. Okay, you can't 201 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: make up for losing an all star caliber pitcher for 202 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: perhaps half of a season. But the Reds are equipped 203 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 3: to be able to survive it with what they have 204 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: in depth in their starting rotation. The Chase Burns thing, again, 205 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 3: I think, fits right into that curious not concerned bucket. 206 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: I know there are some projections out there that he 207 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: might not be on the opening day roster. I'll believe 208 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: that when I see that. Okay, I still think that 209 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 3: Chase Burns is still inside track to be on the 210 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: opening day roster. And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the Reds 211 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: do want to send him down to the my leagues 212 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: and let him ramp up a little bit to be 213 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: ready for the majority of the season. But I still 214 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 3: think there's a chance he's on the opening day roster. 215 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 3: The Andrew Abbott thing, the numbers don't bother me. What 216 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 3: peaks my radar just a little bit is the way 217 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: he talked about it yesterday after his outing when he 218 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 3: used words like frustrated that the process is right, but 219 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 3: the results aren't there, and results maybe don't matter in spring, 220 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 3: but some of the ancillary stuff is a little bit curious. 221 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: The walks are higher. 222 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: You look at his walk to strike out late last year, 223 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 3: it was really excellent, and it's not been excellent so 224 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: far in spring training. 225 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: And you never know what a guy's working on. 226 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 3: But the fact that Andrew says I'm going to try 227 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 3: to ride out the storm, hope it starts to click. 228 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: You. 229 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 3: Hope if you're a Reds fans, that when the lights 230 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 3: turn on on opening day, everything just falls into place 231 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: and he goes back to being the Andrew Abbott we expect. 232 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 2: Him to be. 233 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 3: And that's opening day starter, that's all star level pitcher. 234 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: But I think the word I would land on guys 235 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 3: is more curious. At this point, a week plus out 236 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 3: from opening day, and I am concerned about the starting rotation. 237 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 4: How much stock are you buying in Matt McClain because 238 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 4: it's not just been a week or two, it's been 239 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 4: twenty days, twenty days of Matt McClain wearing long pants 240 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 4: and hitting long homers. So should we be all in 241 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 4: on this. 242 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: Yes, I was a stockholder on Matt McClain even. 243 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 2: When he was playing. 244 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 3: Poorly last year, because I thought it was going to 245 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 3: be a blip on his long career of multiple All 246 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 3: Stars on his resume. 247 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: I go back to what he is. 248 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 3: Is he the twenty twenty three player or is he 249 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five player? And I think for his 250 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: entire life, he's been closer to the twenty twenty three 251 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 3: guy who came up here and looked like one of 252 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 3: the best hitters in the organization and a would be 253 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 3: future star in Cincinnati. The only other data point we 254 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: have of is twenty twenty five. But he was coming 255 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 3: back from the shoulder surgery, the shoulder rehab, and he 256 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: looked a little bit lost with his confidence in twenty 257 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: twenty five. So I'm going to lean on every other 258 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: data point that we have that made Matt McClain a 259 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: first round pick, that made him a great player in 260 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: his rookie season, and not necessarily buy anything that I 261 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 3: saw last year. I think it's important he uses last 262 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 3: year as a data point for himself mentally the things 263 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 3: he needs to get better at. 264 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: You know, I talked to Matt when he's going well. 265 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: I've asked him, what are you doing particularly well when 266 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 3: you're going well, and he always says, I'm swinging at 267 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 3: strikes and I'm not chasing. And I read Charlie Goldsmith's 268 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 3: article talking yesterday about that exact same idea, being more 269 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 3: aggressive on pitches in the zone, and there's been a 270 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: lot of talk about him chasing those low and away 271 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: sliders and making the adjustment of trying take that ball 272 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: to right field. And we've seen that so far in 273 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 3: spring training. I understand spring training numbers are what they are, 274 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 3: but when you're hitting like Babe Ruth, give me all 275 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 3: the stock. 276 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: So back to ninety, back to that. 277 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: Nineties one hundred. 278 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: We're going one hundred Central champions and bringing home a 279 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: World Series championship on the back of Maddie Long Pans. 280 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: I gotta I've got to ask for the the Bengals. 281 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about this offseason, Joe, and it 282 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: feels like they've done a lot of really good things. 283 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: The Dalton Riiser had to happen the decision with Trey Hendrickson. 284 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: They've made three defensive additions that I think are going 285 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: to help this team in a big way. They get 286 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: Orlando Brown Junior extended. They're doing a lot of good stuff, 287 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: and yet at the end, it feels like, now there's 288 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:41,239 Speaker 1: this conversation happening around the cap and how they're structuring 289 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: these deals based on how other teams across the NFL 290 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: are structuring those deals, and they're just not in the 291 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: frame to restructure Joe Burrows deal. And you see that 292 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: happening across teams across the National Football League, where they 293 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: restructure the quarterbacks deal, they free up cap space and 294 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: they use that to make the team better. Joe Burrow 295 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,479 Speaker 1: has even said he's open to this. Are you surprised 296 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: seeing the cap hits in year one at these contracts 297 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: and that they've not ventured down the path of restructuring 298 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: Burrow for a year? 299 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: Am I surprised? I am not surprised. I would be 300 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: if I were a Bengals fan, I would be disappointed 301 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 3: a little bit by the way free agency in the 302 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: offseason has started the fact that there was this understanding 303 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: of the urgency of what this off season meant to 304 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 3: this coaching staff, to the patience of the quarterback that 305 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: is wearing very thin, very quickly. They understood the assignment. 306 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 3: They got in front of microphones, they got in front 307 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: of whatever person they can get in front of the media, 308 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: and they said that they got it, that they were 309 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 3: going to go for it. They knew the urgency of 310 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: the situation. And right now we haven't seen that really 311 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: play out. You have to give them credit. Okay, Mafey 312 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: will help, Alan will help, Cook will help. I said 313 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 3: before the offseason this team probably needed five new starters 314 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: on defense to compete for a Super Bowl. Four new starters. 315 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: I think they're back in the playoffs right now. They 316 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 3: have three new starters defensively, they have an address linebacker. 317 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 3: Makes me think that the Bengals are probably going to 318 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: use the number ten overall pick on a guy that 319 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: they expect to come in and start day one here 320 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 3: in Cincinnati. So even if they add that guy, that's 321 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 3: four new starters. But you're relying on running it back 322 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: with Knight and Carter, and I wonder how much that 323 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 3: is going to define what the twenty twenty six Bangals are. 324 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: It feels like we always pull something right from the 325 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: Bengals and say this could define the season, and then 326 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 3: there we are week ten, week eleven, week twelve, and 327 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 3: like we were right, it is defining the season. So 328 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 3: the Bengals are betting unless they go out and get 329 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 3: someone that surprises me here in the next couple of weeks, 330 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 3: or if perhaps they get lucky and a sunny Styles 331 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 3: drops to them at number ten, then you're starting another 332 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: rookie at linebacker again, when all offseason they said they 333 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: wanted to add someone in that room who has some 334 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 3: experience and has proven they can play on Sundays. So 335 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: to me, it's going to come down to in twenty 336 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 3: twenty six if they run this back with Knight and Carter, 337 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 3: young players that I don't think anybody listening to this 338 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 3: would say get rid of they can't play, But can 339 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 3: you rely on them to take the kind of jump 340 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 3: they have to take to help drag this team to 341 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 3: a different level in twenty twenty six. I'm skeptical. I'm 342 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: a little worried about it, and I'm very curious if 343 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 3: this was the plan for them after investing in those 344 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: two players last year, to bring them back in twenty 345 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 3: twenty six as your two starters. 346 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my question too, is because like, okay, you 347 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 4: can see Logan Wilson's in that room, Logan Wilson can 348 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 4: help them, but then Logan Wilson played terribly and he 349 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 4: gets traded. And orn Berg's kind of the same situation, 350 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 4: wasn't necessarily the best player to help them, And Doko 351 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 4: Toobin kind of referenced that, like, if you're not playing well, 352 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 4: it's difficult for your message to resonate all that stuff 353 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 4: that they said about linebacker, and then reading what Paul 354 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 4: Daaner reported that they weren't really even in on Caden 355 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 4: Ellis or even in on Leo Chanel. That doesn't make 356 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 4: sense to me, and I have a hard time understanding 357 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 4: what the plan actually is to make those two guys 358 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 4: better as opposed to other than just hey, you had 359 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 4: a whole offseason as an NFL player, You had a 360 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 4: whole season as a rookie, like now you know what 361 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 4: to expect. 362 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: I think you can make the argument that adding the 363 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 3: players they've added will make them better, sure, right, but 364 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 3: I think that's hollow. 365 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: I think that's hollow to the fan base. 366 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 3: I think the fan base wanted to see that box 367 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: checked in free agency. I certainly wanted to see it 368 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 3: checked in free agency, and they're so close, right, it 369 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 3: feels like, they're so close to having this successful, well 370 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 3: done check every box off season, and I'd never thought 371 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 3: they were going to get the big splash. I never 372 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: thought they were going to get the top one or 373 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 3: two players at whatever position they were going to address. 374 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 3: But they've improved the pass rush, they've improved the tackling. 375 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 3: They had to improve linebacker, and it's disappointing that here 376 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 3: we are now looking forward most likely to the draft 377 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 3: as a place to address it if they're going to 378 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 3: address it, unless they want to bring in an Orin 379 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: Burks type player, and I don't know how much that's 380 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 3: going to help in that position. It's disappointed the Bengals 381 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 3: didn't address that, and I think it might at the 382 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 3: end of the twenty twenty six season be something we 383 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 3: point back at and say, hm, that kind of defined 384 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 3: the season. 385 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, wouldn't be surprised if we see a Keem Davis 386 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 4: Gaither eventually come back. But before we let you go, 387 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 4: your buddy Trey Hendrickson now a Baltimore Raven. 388 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: Your reaction, it's interesting, it's a fresh start. Trey is 389 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 2: a enigma. Okay. 390 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 3: So I was on a Baltimore radio station last week 391 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 3: and they were asking me about Trey Hendrickson, and I said, listen, 392 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 3: you know when he gets in front of the cameras 393 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: and he talks about his faith and his family, and 394 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 3: those are two pillars. And I'm not saying those two 395 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 3: things aren't legitimate. Those are two legitimate things. He also 396 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 3: has a selfish side to him that he doesn't do 397 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: a lot of interviews, and when he did do them, 398 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 3: he would act like he didn't know how many sacks 399 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 3: he had, and then you would see these clips of 400 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 3: him when he was miked up calling up to the 401 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 3: press box making sure he was credited for the sacks 402 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 3: he got on the field, asking people the number of 403 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 3: sacks he had. 404 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: There's a little bit of. 405 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: Disingenuous side to Trey Hendrickson, and all that's saying when 406 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 3: he goes to Baltimore, he's going to be productive. Right, 407 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 3: Teams value what he does well he gets to the quarterback, 408 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 3: He's going to help Baltimore. But I am glad the 409 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson era in Cincinnati is done. He did a 410 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 3: lot for the Bengals. What he did for them should 411 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 3: be celebrated on the field, and I understand he was 412 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 3: a captain in his last year, but sometimes guys leaving 413 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 3: is a good thing, and I think this is a 414 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 3: good thing for the Cincinnati Bengals. 415 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: Do you think there's going to be a contingent to 416 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: Savior fans that make the trip to Dayton to Boucheonpime. 417 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 3: I would be surprised. Now you've asked. I think you 418 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 3: asked a poll question earlier. What are you watch it? 419 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 3: And I roll Baseball Classic? Of the first four I'm 420 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: watching World Baseball Classic. I'm all in, but I will 421 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 3: sample the Texas game to see if anything like that happens. 422 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: I doubt it's anything that comes across through on television. 423 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 3: There will be some boots, There's no doubt there's some 424 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: people regionally who are going to go to the game 425 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 3: in Bouchhawn Miller. I just don't know if it'll make 426 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 3: the kind of impact that would be noteworthy or heard 427 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 3: on television. 428 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: That's fair. 429 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 4: Speaking of television, what's a true company man? He chose 430 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 4: the World Baseball Classic. 431 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: On Fox nineteen Joe Hey, we've got state championships. 432 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 3: For the high school team's final week of the high 433 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 3: school season. For the state championship tournaments in Kentucky and Ohio, 434 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 3: we got a handful of teams going for that, so 435 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 3: we'll be covering that this week and then it's all 436 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 3: hands on deck getting ready for Opening Day on Fox nineteen. 437 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 2: Now in nine. 438 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: Days, guys, we will literally be on the air four 439 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 3: point thirty in the morning all the way through final 440 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: pitch of the Reds game on Opening Day against the 441 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 3: Red Sox, with Reds coverage on Opening Day from Great 442 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 3: American Ballpark and the parade included. 443 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 4: Will you be doing a live drive down to Great 444 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 4: American Ballpark? Ah? 445 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: I will not be. This is gonna be fun, though. 446 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 3: This is my This is MI, My Mike Tarico, Kirkirb Street, 447 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 3: Dan Horde moment. Whoa so I I host with Trisha 448 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 3: Mackie and Rob Williams the parade and I have to 449 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 3: leave about halfway through it to get down through the 450 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 3: traffic to the ball park to then help and co 451 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 3: host with Jeremy Row our pregame show that goes live 452 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 3: on the. 453 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: Air immediately after the parade. 454 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 3: So this is my big moment, right when I'm jumping 455 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 3: in the car and I'm changing clothing to match whatever 456 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: Jeremy's going to wear to get down of the ballpark 457 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: after the Parade. 458 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 2: Big Day. 459 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: You ever thought about being on air that long? Maybe 460 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: mixing in a karaoke segment? 461 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: Ha ha ha. 462 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: I was thinking the other day ton about I need 463 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 3: to work in a new song and what happened to 464 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 3: my intro in music, which was my greatest karaoke moment ever. 465 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've witnessed some karaoke and I think I think 466 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: viewers and listeners alike would would welcome that I have 467 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:46,479 Speaker 1: it somewhere. 468 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 2: I can't even. 469 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 3: Name the artist anymore because his name is so toxic. 470 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 4: I wish I had it ready. I don't know. It 471 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 4: would take me a while, but you you bring it back. 472 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: You're the best. Joe, thanks so much for your time today, 473 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: and uh we'll talk again next week. Gee gee, Joe 474 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: Danoman from Fox nineteen. This is since he three point 475 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: sixty talkbacks next. ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station