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Speaker 1: Already eight ten on your Thursday morning, getting closer and

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Speaker 1: closer to the weekend where you can listen to our

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Speaker 1: good friend Gary Sullivan on our sister station, fifty five

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Speaker 1: KRC nine to noon Saturdays and Sundays, and he syndicated

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Speaker 1: across nearly three hundred radio stations across America.

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Speaker 2: You're a big league operator, Gary, Oh I try.

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Speaker 3: I try so well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you are.

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Speaker 1: A big league operator, big time man, you know, Gary.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, there are very few things in

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Speaker 1: life that I can say I just despise. Okay, very few,

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Speaker 1: And I bet I'm gonna talk about it. You're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about what I'm today. Because when my bride

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Speaker 1: Polly says to me, Hey, you know what, let's take

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Speaker 1: Saturday and put up Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Lights, mean, oh my god, I lose my mind.

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Speaker 3: You can't go hide.

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Speaker 2: I can't go hide. You can run, but you.

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Speaker 3: Put your little elf suit on.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: All right, but a lot of people love doing it,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna ultimately go do it. But look, there

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Speaker 1: is some safety to consider and newmero. You know, whether

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Speaker 1: it's Christmas lights, whether it's changing a white bulb, something

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Speaker 1: maybe in the ceiling.

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Speaker 2: Getting on a ladder.

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Speaker 1: Man, you have I know a fellow who died from

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Speaker 1: a fall I do out in Arizona, and you know

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Speaker 1: his wife told him he was a little bit older guy.

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Speaker 1: But it can happen to a young person too, right, sure.

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Speaker 3: Well it kind of really starts with the type of ladder.

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Speaker 3: And I'm you know, like if you're hanging X to

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Speaker 3: your lights, every ladder has a weight limit on it,

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Speaker 3: and everybody buys the cheapest ladder, right, I mean I'll

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Speaker 3: buy the type on it's got a two hundred pounds

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Speaker 3: weight limit. You take a walk around, there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of people over two hundred pounds. Seriously, be careful. Second

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Speaker 3: thing is an extension ladder. If you're hanging lights on

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Speaker 3: a gutter not having a professionally decorated in there, there's

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Speaker 3: an idea for you. Tom a lot of that going

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Speaker 3: on now, don't give me any ideas. Don't get a

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Speaker 3: lot going on.

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Speaker 2: I just stop it. I mean, I like you.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go south on you, all right,

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Speaker 1: but some professional really does and don'ts about putting up

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Speaker 1: lights outside?

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, So make sure you use the ladder, make

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Speaker 3: sure it's steady, make sure it's got a good footing,

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Speaker 3: make sure somebody's there with you. Make sure it extends

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Speaker 3: three feet above where you're going to hang the lights,

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Speaker 3: like extends above the gutter. Just make sure it's solid,

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Speaker 3: make sure somebody's with you. And when you do the

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Speaker 3: you should always have three points of contact. You know,

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Speaker 3: you got two rails on the side for your hands,

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Speaker 3: you got your feet, that's four. Don't put one foot

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Speaker 3: down and you know, do a two point contact. That's unsafe.

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Speaker 3: So that's probably number one. Number two is where have

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Speaker 3: you stored your lights? A lot of people storm in

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Speaker 3: the attic, and that's the worse place in the world.

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Speaker 3: I mean that attic in the summertime can be one

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Speaker 3: hundred and forty hundred and fifty degrees. Those light cords

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Speaker 3: are very thin, they get very brittle. They're soy oil

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Speaker 3: and they get very brittle. They crack, and then if

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Speaker 3: you start putting the wrong bushes outside with rain and stuff,

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Speaker 3: that's certainly a big issue. I mean, that's a big issue.

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Speaker 3: So another thing you don't want to do. This is interesting,

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Speaker 3: and this happened to me when you're about ten years ago,

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Speaker 3: is letting light cords or extension cords sit on the ground.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 3: I went out one morning and my lights weren't on,

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Speaker 3: and I looked around the bush and I find this

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Speaker 3: extension cord and it looked like somebody with the diagonal

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Speaker 3: players cut the cord. And I'm like, who in the

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Speaker 3: world would come up through the through the driveway, through

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Speaker 3: the yard and cut my my Christmas lights? I mean,

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Speaker 3: what the heck?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And I got on the radio and I was just

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Speaker 3: kind of moaning that fact, and somebody called in and said,

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Speaker 3: he goes, there's a rabbit.

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Speaker 2: No kidding, I said.

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Speaker 3: A rabbit And he goes, yeah. And he told me

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Speaker 3: the reason. He said, there's soy oil in those cords,

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Speaker 3: and rabbits and squirrels will cut them and it'll look

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Speaker 3: like an absolute perfect cut.

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Speaker 2: And it did.

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Speaker 3: I would have bet my life that a diagonal plier

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Speaker 3: cut that thing. Extension cords and like cords, get those

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But Gary, I mean, you and I both know, okay,

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Speaker 1: And you and I both know. When you're going out

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Speaker 1: there and let's say you've got a row of bushes

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Speaker 1: and you're hanging some lights off of them, right, and

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Speaker 1: you plug it into an extension cord. How in the

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Speaker 1: world are you supposed to keep that thing off the

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Speaker 1: ground from where you're plugging it in, perhaps in an

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Speaker 1: outlet that sits outdoors.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well you can get little steaks, okay, an inn

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Speaker 3: slaved staple. Put it right at the top where the

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Speaker 3: quard or extension cord is going to the next set

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Speaker 3: of bushes. Keep it off the ground. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 3: So that's how you do it. And the biggest protection

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Speaker 3: of all the lights, and I know you got a

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Speaker 3: big interview, so I want to run through this real quick.

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Speaker 3: The biggest protection and safety device is having them plugged

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Speaker 3: into a ground fault circuit interrupter. If there's a short,

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Speaker 3: if there's moisture in the connections, that will automatically just

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Speaker 3: shut the entire display down. And it's funny, it's a

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Speaker 3: protection device, but everybody always thinks when it shuts it down,

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Speaker 3: it's the protection device's fault.

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Speaker 2: It's right, It's not that I have a moisture.

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Speaker 3: Problem or short. It's that device's fault. Of course it

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Speaker 3: could be, but rarely is. And what you want to do,

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Speaker 3: and a ground fault circuit interrupter is the one where

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Speaker 3: it's got the little red button and a little black

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Speaker 3: button in the middle of the outlet. Yeah, you can

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Speaker 3: reset it. Many of us have reset them many times

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Speaker 3: and they reset, right. I mean, you plug it in

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Speaker 3: and it resets. But if it doesn't reset, what's going on. Well,

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Speaker 3: maybe it is the ground fall circuit interrupter there, or

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Speaker 3: maybe there's water getting down behind the outlet itself. But

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Speaker 3: do check that. If it goes off once and it resets,

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Speaker 3: that's fine. There was a moisture issue. It worked, everybody's good.

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Speaker 3: If it doesn't reset, you may have to replace that,

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Speaker 3: or you may have to investigate what's going on and

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Speaker 3: it's probably Again gets back to the electrical connections time

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Speaker 3: where the plugs, you know, plugging into the outlet and

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Speaker 3: don't wrap them with tape. Sometimes moisture gets trapped in

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Speaker 3: there and can't dry. Just a good tight saran wrap

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Speaker 3: around there is nice. And make sure the cords. The

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Speaker 3: outdoor lights are obviously outdoor lights, but the extension cords.

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Speaker 3: I've seen people use lamp extension cords. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: it's got to be an outdoor of course to figure

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Speaker 3: that out. Yeah, but people still do it. You know

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Speaker 3: you want to get that job done because you love

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Speaker 3: to do that.

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Speaker 2: Love it. Now.

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Speaker 1: One thing I want to circle back to before I

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Speaker 1: let you go, And we do have Zach Taylor coming

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Speaker 1: up here in about the seven minutes. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: we're about to find out. We're about to find out,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna ask him. I can promise you that

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Speaker 1: we might ask him three or four or five or

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Speaker 1: seven times.

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Speaker 2: That's good for you. Okay, let me.

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Speaker 1: Ask you this show real quick, as I want to

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Speaker 1: circle back. You were talking about the ladder, okay. A

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Speaker 1: lot of times Gary, when you're hanging up stuff outside,

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Speaker 1: you're having to put that ladder on the ground right right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I mean ill, that's where I.

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Speaker 2: Always get a little scared and concern for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, especially if it's on a slope. You've got to

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Speaker 3: make sure that it has very very good footing. And

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Speaker 3: you don't want that letter to be going straight up either.

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Speaker 3: You want that kicked out. There is a formula which

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Speaker 3: is not into my head right now, but on how

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Speaker 3: far out from from the wall it should be. But

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Speaker 3: it should be a nice not straight up and down.

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Speaker 3: It should be a nice gradual maybe like a forty

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Speaker 3: five degrees sixty degree slope. But you know, it's amazing.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry to hear about your friend that that you know,

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Speaker 3: fell from a ladder, but it happens all the time.

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Speaker 3: It's like the number one emergency. Nobody thinks to have

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Speaker 3: somebody out there with them, not that they're going to

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Speaker 3: catch them. But I don't know about your spouse, but

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Speaker 3: mine would quickly tell me that ladder doesn't look solid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well mine, I don't know. Maybe she wants that

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Speaker 1: thing going. Well, you never know, you never know. You

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Speaker 1: very long enough, you never know.

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Speaker 3: You never know.

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Speaker 1: All right, my friend, Thanks for your time is always giving,

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Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 3: Happy Thanksgiving. You and your family appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, buddy,