1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Costin's new radio. 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: All Right, we are going to talk about Minnesota, because 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 2: Minnesota has been the dominant news story for the last 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: couple of weeks. It's been a tragic story with the 5 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 2: deaths of two individuals. There's some video out that we 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: alluded to last night, which has now been shown on 7 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 2: enough network broadcast, including CNN that I think it's been 8 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: shown that on the thirteenth of January, Alex Pretty, who 9 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: was I think unfortunately killed in that struggle last Saturday morning, 10 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: apparently had had another confrontation with ICE. I don't think 11 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: that this is what led to his death. I hope not, 12 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: because that would call that would show real premeditation. But 13 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: it did show the amount of effort he was making 14 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 2: as a demonstrator, not merely as an observer, spitting at 15 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: an ICE officer and then basically kicking the backlight out 16 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: of a vehicle. He was not arrested. It would have 17 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: been better for him to have been arrested, but obviously 18 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 2: he had a tragic meeting last Saturday morning, which totally never, 19 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: in my opinion, never should have happened. But the story 20 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: today is that Tom Homan, who had been involved in 21 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: a war of words here with Boston Mayor Michelle wou 22 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: a few months ago, basically threatening that he would bring 23 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: held to Boston, and there have been ice arrests in 24 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: and around Boston. He held a news conference this morning, 25 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: and the tone that he struck today this morning was 26 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: much more reasonable, much more conciliatory than the tone that 27 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: many of the Democratic leaders around the country have talked 28 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 2: have said. Tim Walls made some news. The governor of 29 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: Minnesota and the unsuccessful vice presidential candidate for the Democrats 30 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, basically has decided never to run 31 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: for elective office again. My suspicion is that he's making 32 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: a good decision there, because I don't think that he 33 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: would ever be elected to anything again. Now, some will 34 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 2: tell me he was a victim of circumstances, whether it's 35 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: the George Floyd murder, which was a murder in two thousand, 36 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: or whether or not it was what we have seen 37 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: going on in Minnesota. In the last couple of weeks, 38 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: he talked about his conversation with President Trump. Now, Trump 39 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: had said I thought some pretty particularly for Trump, some reasonable, 40 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: reasonably nice things about his conversations with both Governor Waltz, 41 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: I with the mayor of Minneapolis. This was Wallace's take 42 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: a cut number eight. Please Rob, if you'd be so kind. 43 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: What else did he say to you other than saying 44 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: you want to work together? 45 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 4: I mean, what did he tell you about? 46 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: What did you talk about? 47 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: He told me that he doesn't understand what's wrong with Minnesota. 48 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 4: I don't know what's wrong with you people. I said, 49 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 4: nothing wrong with, mister President. We're one of the most 50 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 4: effective states and one of the best places to live. 51 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 4: And he told me that, well looked him. We did 52 00:03:59,240 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 4: this in New Orleans. 53 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: We did it in Louisville. 54 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 4: There's no problems. And I said, you didn't kill anybody 55 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 4: in Louisville or New Orleans, and the operation here looks 56 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: very different from that. And then he told me it 57 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 4: was successful in Venezuela. 58 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: Again a bit of a non secretoury of Governor Waltz. 59 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: Don't exactly know what you mean by that. But then 60 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: Waltz went on to say that he's never going to 61 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: run for office again. Compared to some Democratic politicians, specifically 62 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: the District Attorney of Philadelphia Larry Krasner, just listen to 63 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 2: the invective of this guy who's a district attorney in Philadelphia, 64 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: and it's been elected, I believe twice by the voters 65 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 2: in Philadelphia. This is cut number seventeen, Rob, seventeen. 66 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 5: I want you to understand that just as you have 67 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 5: come together, there are state prosecutors coming together right now 68 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 5: to make sure that people understand there will be accountability. 69 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 5: There will be accountability now, there will be accountability in 70 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 5: the future. There will be accountability after Trump is out 71 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 5: of office. If we have to hunt you down the 72 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 5: way they hunted down Nazis for decades, we will find 73 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 5: your identities, we will find you, we will achieve justice, 74 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 5: and we will do so under the Constitution and the 75 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 5: laws of the United States. 76 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 2: Now there are Democrats like John Fetterman from Pennsylvania, and 77 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: I think it's important to play this this cut who 78 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: undercuts the insanity of Larry Krasner. This is a senator 79 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: fe Rob Cut twelve. 80 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 6: That's that's gross and that I absolutely condemn that. Absolutely, 81 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 6: do not compare anyone anyone to the Nazis. Don't use 82 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 6: that kind of rhetoric. You know that can incite violence. 83 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 6: And now that I strongly reject that and condemn that 84 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 6: kind of language in the strongest terms. You know, members 85 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 6: of the ICE are not Nazis. I don't compare anyone 86 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 6: to Gestapo and those things. You know, this is one 87 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 6: of the reasons why I think we should stand down 88 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 6: in what's happening in Minneapolis. You know, we all have 89 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 6: to reduce the temperature, we have to turn it down, 90 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 6: and using that kinds of rhetoric. You know, again, I 91 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 6: can't ever support that. And I have a basic rule 92 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 6: in politics. Don't compare anyone to Nazis. I don't care, 93 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 6: you just don't do that. 94 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: Senator Fetterman, I think spoke with courage, and he's spoke 95 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: in a way which hopefully can bring us together. I mean, 96 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: the issue is if the Trump administration has said we 97 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: are going to focus on the people who were here 98 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: illegally and who have committed crimes, and we know who 99 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: they are, we know where they are. Maybe I don't know, 100 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: Maybe you disagree. Maybe he would have gotten some cooperation 101 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: from officials in Minnesota. Maybe he wouldn't have. So he 102 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: sends Tom Holman there, and Holman did meet with Governor 103 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: Waltz and with Mayor Fry of Minneapolis and held a 104 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: news conference today, and this was the tone of Tom Holman. 105 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: I think pretty reasonable. In my opinion, you can agree 106 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: to disagree with me. Cut number thirty rob. 107 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: In my meetings with folks so far and most important 108 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: to governor and the AG, the mayor fry, we didn't 109 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 3: agree on everything. I didn't expect to agree on anything. 110 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 3: I've heard many people want to know why we're talking 111 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: to people who they don't consider friends and administration. Bottom 112 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: line is, you can't fix problems if you don't have discussions. 113 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: Didn't come to Minnesota for photo ops or headlines. You 114 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: haven't seen me. I came here to seek solutions, and 115 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: that's what we're going to do. And we wecome a 116 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: long way and we got some good wins for the 117 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: people in Minnesota, I think, and for the administration and 118 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: for the safety security of this city. 119 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: In another cut here he almost, well I shouldn't say almost. 120 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: He did. He put the federal officers, the order patrol agents, 121 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: and the ice officers on notice that they must be 122 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 2: more professional. He didn't didn't use that particular phrase, but 123 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: that's what I take from this sound By cut thirty. 124 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 3: Two, ICEN CB CVP officers are performing their duties in 125 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: a challenging environment under tremendous circumstances, but they're trying to do. 126 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: If they don't, they'll be dealt with. Like any of 127 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: the federal agency, we have standards of conduct. There are 128 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 3: sworn law enforcement officers working tirectly to enforce our countries 129 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: border security and immigration laws, protecting the interests of our country, 130 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: and preventing dangerous people from walking the streets to this 131 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 3: nation when they're not supposed to be here to begin with. 132 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: Again, I don't think there's anything that Homan said that 133 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: I have seen in his news conference this morning that 134 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: I would disagree with. Maybe you have. Wouldn't it be 135 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 2: funny if Tom Homan is the individual who actually brings 136 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: some tranquility to a situation which has in the last 137 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: couple of weeks at times been very much out of 138 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: control on both sides by the way the demonstrators and 139 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: the protesters have no right obstructing with the federal officials 140 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: who are trying to do their job. At the same time, 141 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 2: I I think I've seen too many of the ice 142 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: officers overreact towards people. 143 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 4: Who are not. 144 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 7: Threatening them. 145 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: So I would like to think that I'm somewhere in 146 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: the middle here, and I'm more than happy to try 147 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: to have a conversation with you. Who's ever side you're on, 148 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 2: or if you agree with me, you know, let's let's go. 149 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 2: Let the conversation begin six one seven, six one seven, 150 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 2: nine three thirty. I would remind you that I'm not 151 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: that it matters to you, but it does to me. 152 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 2: I haven't done a show in studio for a couple 153 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: of years. I am in the the iHeart Studios in Medford. 154 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: I see rob through the glass. When I'm broadcasting remotely. 155 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: We're talking like it's it's just preer radio. I'm in 156 00:10:55,160 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: a studio. I have television monitors, I have a big 157 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: clock in front of me. I have a digital clock. 158 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: I have three or four computers here. I'm one happy camper. 159 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: I'm not going to do this a lot, but this 160 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: was this was imposed upon me today because frankly, we 161 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: lost UH power, which can happen, and I know that 162 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: the utility is working diligently to try to get the 163 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: power restored UH and then we'll get restored and probably 164 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: by tomorrow night I'll be back broadcasting remotely. So this 165 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: is an opportunity for us to have a little chat, 166 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: just like the old days, from a studio with a 167 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: big monitor in front of me. I just want to 168 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: give you a sense of where I am. If you 169 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: think the audio is better or the same, I'd really 170 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: be interested in what you have to say on that 171 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: as well. We have full line six one, seven, two, five, 172 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: six seven ninety. Write them down. Be right back on 173 00:11:58,600 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 2: night Side. 174 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 175 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the phones. Whatever you want 176 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: to say. You were more than welcome. Let me started 177 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: off with Bob and ringhom Bob, you were next on Nightside. 178 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 8: Go ahead, Hey, Dan, how's it going? 179 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 2: Good sir? What's your take on all of this? 180 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 8: So my take is from what I've seen, neither one 181 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 8: of those folks should have been killed. But on the 182 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 8: other hand, none of the folks leading up to this 183 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 8: should have been killed either. And and I'm referring to 184 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 8: Lake and Riley, all the Americans that have been killed, 185 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 8: you know, leading up to this. And the purpose device 186 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 8: is to remove the illegals, know the most, you know, 187 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 8: the worst criminals. First. But Dan, our country was invaded 188 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 8: due to the policies of the previous administration, and if 189 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 8: that didn't happen, none of this would be going on 190 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 8: right now. And I know the left is going to 191 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 8: criticize President Trump for every death that happens from this 192 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 8: point forward, but again, none of this wouldn't have had 193 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 8: would be going on if the Biden administration didn't act 194 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 8: the way they did. And in my opinion, all the 195 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 8: blood is on the hands of Biden. 196 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: Well, I think that they had a policy which was 197 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: going to you know, he and majorcas had a policy 198 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: of open borders. It has never been clear to me 199 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: why they would have a policy of open borders. I 200 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: think people walk their doors at night in most areas 201 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: of the country because you want to make sure that 202 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 2: the people who come in your house are invited into 203 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 2: your house, and that to me is just plain common sense. 204 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: There were a lot of people who committed this country, 205 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: brought fentanyl in. There are a lot of people who 206 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: died because of fentanyl, and there were people who died 207 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: at the hands of people who were here illegally violence. 208 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: And there's nothing that you've said that I can disagree with, 209 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: to be honest with you, including that it is those 210 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: two individuals they should have been arrested both the woman 211 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: who was killed in the SUV and the man who 212 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: died last Sunday or last Saturday morning, who was killed 213 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: last Saturday morning, they both should have been arrested and 214 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: that should have been the end of it. 215 00:14:54,760 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 8: And one other thing is any governor or mayor that 216 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 8: obstructs justice, which many are obstructing justice, they should be 217 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 8: arrested for obstructing justice. And until that happens, all this 218 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 8: nonsense is going to continue to happen. 219 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: What happens is. 220 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 8: People. 221 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: What happens is that politicians don't themselves obstruct justice. They 222 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: just say things which incite other people to obstruct justice. 223 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: And so therefore they're going to say, I'm just talking 224 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 2: about you know, people should be out there and protesting peacefully. 225 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: That's that I don't think. I don't see how you 226 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: arrest a governor or a mayor, irrespective how irresponsibly they 227 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: might speak. Irresponsible speech is protected by the First Amendment. 228 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 8: No. But if they're but if they're you know, not 229 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 8: working with ice to take these people out of here, 230 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 8: they are in fact obstructing justice. 231 00:15:55,400 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: There you and I would disagree with that, you know, respectfully, 232 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: I understand your point. Do I think they are obstructing 233 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: justice by not cooperating, Yes, but I don't think they're 234 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: obstructing justice to the point that they could be indicted 235 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: criminally for it, is what I'm trying to say. Okay, okay, 236 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: fair enough, Thank you, Bob. Appreciate your callers. Always keep 237 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: calling the show. Thank you, my friend. Good night six one, seven, two, five, four, 238 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: ten thirty, triple eight, nine to nine, ten thirty. We're 239 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: gonna go next to h We got another Joe, Joe 240 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: and Rehoboth. Joe next on Nisa, go right ahead. Nope, 241 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: I missed. I clicked and I missed it, So we're 242 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: gonna click again. Joe and Rehobeth go right ahead. 243 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 9: Hey Dan, I just we're going from talking to the 244 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 9: patriots to this. It's me again. 245 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: We're gonna We're gonna make an exception. But but but yeah, yeah, 246 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: sort of got by. You got bye, Rob, go ahead, 247 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: go ahead. 248 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 7: All right. 249 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 9: So here's the thing we're you're talking about rhetoric, what 250 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 9: people are saying. And if you ever listen to how 251 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 9: a lot of these governors talk about this stuff, they say, oh, 252 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 9: we're going to protect our neighbors. Listen, these people you're 253 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 9: talking about who who are who are being searched for 254 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 9: by ice. They're not your neighbors. There we legal immigrants. 255 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 9: And that's the problem is I haven't heard one person 256 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 9: say illegal immigrant. You know what I mean? 257 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: Hear me say that that's that's what they are. They 258 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: hear I actually they're illegal aliens. In the law of 259 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: the federal law refers to the illegal aliens. I love 260 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: legal immigrants closest friends of people who came here legally. 261 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: I have said to friends of mine, you're a better 262 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: American than I am. I had the good fortune of 263 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: being born here. You chose to come here legally. That 264 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: makes you, in that person, in my opinion, a better 265 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: American than I am. 266 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 9: Yep, I agree. The people who paid their way and 267 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 9: the people who went out on a limb and did 268 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 9: everything correctly, they have every right to be in this country. 269 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 9: But they don't. You know, they can they can be here. 270 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 9: But the people who who right off the bat illegal aliens. 271 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 9: They broke a law immediately, And now they say, well, 272 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 9: these people didn't break any laws. Yes they did. 273 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: Well, what they're saying is if they came here and 274 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: they re smonted it to say I'm seeking asylum at 275 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: that point they have a right to stay here. But 276 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 2: but they did break in my opinion, they break a 277 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 2: law when you cross a border. And first of all, 278 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: we were so overwhelmed by the number of people who 279 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: came here, overwhelmed that we we had a system was broken. 280 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: There were people who were told, Okay, you'll an asylum 281 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: hearing hearing seven or eight years from now. Come on, 282 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: that's absurd. Yeah, and I'm was absurd because they opened 283 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: the borders, and they opened the borders widely. President Obama 284 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 2: did not open the borders. He deported a lot of people, 285 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: and he actually gave Bill Tom Homan an award, a 286 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 2: presidential medal. So I don't know what happened to the 287 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 2: Democratic Party in the last uh seven or eight years, 288 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, since Trump was saying We're 289 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 2: going to arrest illegal aliens or illegal immigrants who have 290 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: committed crimes here, the Democrats said, well, we have to 291 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: oppose that because Trump's in favor of it. That's nuts. 292 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's nuts. We live in a batty world. But anyways, 293 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 9: I won't hold you up any of your time, Joe. 294 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 2: Great to hear from you. If not twice, we'll talk 295 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: so sorry. 296 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 9: I won't break that rule again. Sorry, thank you. 297 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 2: Joe, talk too sooner. We're going to take a break. 298 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: Six seven two five ten thirty six seven nine, Join 299 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: the conversation. We have one line. The only line that's 300 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 2: open right now is the one that Joe just got off. 301 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: Six one just filled. Coming back on night Side. 302 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: You're on the night Side with Dan Ray on w 303 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: b Z, Boston's news radio. 304 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 2: All right, here we go, let's Rob, here we go. 305 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: We got Jeff in Abington. Jeff, so good to hear 306 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 2: from you. 307 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 10: Go right ahead, Jeff, Oh, I bet you're really thrilled. 308 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 10: Did you hear what that politician, Democrat running for attorney 309 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 10: general in Ohio said about Trump? 310 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 2: Yes? 311 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 7: I did. 312 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: Would you like to hear it? 313 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 11: Yeah, play for you. 314 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 2: Cut twenty two, cut twenty two. Please Rob. This is 315 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: a Democratic candidate for attorney general the state of Ohio. 316 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: This guy should be eliminated from the should be kicked 317 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: out of the Democratic Party. 318 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 12: Is l at forehand candidate for Ohio Attorney General. I 319 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 12: want to tell you what I mean when I say 320 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 12: that I am going to kill Donald Trump. I mean 321 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 12: I'm going to obtain a conviction rendered by a jury 322 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 12: of his peers at a standard of proof beyond a 323 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 12: reasonable doubt based on evidence presented at a trial conducted 324 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 12: in accordance with the requirements of due process, resulting in 325 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 12: a sentence duly executed of capital punishment. That is what 326 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 12: I mean when I say that I am going to 327 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 12: kill Donald Trump. 328 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we need more politicians like that, insane nutjobs who 329 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: should be disqualified from ever running for anything. 330 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 9: Go ahead, Jeff, you. 331 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 10: Say he should be kicked out of the Democratic Party, 332 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 10: that is the Democratic Party. 333 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: No, John Fetterman is also the Democratic Party. And you 334 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: heard John Fetterman before. This guy does not represent rat Party. No, No, 335 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 2: this guy's the outlier. But but we can disagree on that. 336 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 2: Go ahead. 337 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 10: And the reason we're having so many incidents in Minnesota 338 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 10: is because ICE agents have no backup from the local 339 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 10: state police. UH in Minnesota because Fry and Waltz have 340 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 10: told them do not cooperate, so they don't have so 341 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 10: they should have never been able to infiltrate their lines 342 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 10: if they had backup. 343 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: There are there were no lines, okay, uh. And I 344 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: think that Tom Homan has gone there. He has been 345 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 2: I think very effective. Today. I watched his news conference 346 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: early this morning, and it's it's as simple as there. 347 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: It's as simple as that. This is Holman. I want 348 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 2: you to comment on Homan. 349 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 13: I heard Holman. 350 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 9: You don't have to play it, well, I heard guess 351 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 9: what Jet. 352 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 2: There's more than you listening to my show. So if 353 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: you don't want to comment it, that's fine, but I'm 354 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 2: got to play it for my audience. Twenty nine A 355 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: please Rob and. 356 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 3: For the people that argue, well, we're welcome in the 357 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 3: community because we want victims and witnesses of crime that 358 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 3: are here illegally to feel safe to come to police 359 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 3: without fear of work with ice. We're not going to 360 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 3: talk to the victim witness of crime. There's no problem there. 361 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 3: They should feel safe to come to police and ask 362 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 3: for help. All we want is to talk to the 363 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 3: person that local and state law enforcement authorities locked in 364 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 3: the jail cell. 365 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: Pretty simple, pretty direct. 366 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 10: Yeah, it is. And the blood is on Fry's hands 367 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 10: and it's on Waltz's hands. 368 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: Well, I also think that the reaction again I wait 369 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: for the investigation to continue. Preddy could have there were 370 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 2: five guys on him. 371 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 10: Okay, he was known to them because he had been 372 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 10: given spitting in their face. 373 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: Yep, I saw that. I saw that. But you don't 374 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 2: shoot somebody because they spent spat in your face or 375 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 2: kicked out the light on your vehicle. 376 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 10: The wee anybody in your face. 377 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: I didn't kill him. I might have hit him, but 378 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: I didn't kill him. 379 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 10: Well, it's a pretty nasty thing to do to anybody. 380 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 2: No kidding, no kidding. I couldn't agree with you more, Jeff. 381 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: We made it through this conversation, and I'm delighted we did, 382 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 2: and I hope we have more conversations, whether we agree 383 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 2: to disagree. So you do not get the plank tonight. Congratulations. 384 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 10: Yeah, you too quick with that plank with me. You 385 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 10: ought to give me more of a chance. 386 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: Well, a good performance like this might give you a 387 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 2: little bit more of a chance next time to the performance. 388 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 10: I don't think it's a performance. I think it's I'm 389 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 10: just talking with fact. 390 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's fine. I use the word performance I 391 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 2: was talking about. Sometimes you come on a little hard, 392 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: a little. 393 00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 10: Harsh, hush. 394 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 2: You open up with some some language which suggests to 395 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: me that you're not in a conversation and moved that 396 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: night tonight. 397 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 10: I don't know, I don't know you've heard, well Lesbian. 398 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 2: Go to go to some of your last calls. Have 399 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 2: a great night sleep. Well, let me go next to 400 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: who's up next? Eric is in Ohio? Eric, you were 401 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 2: next on nightside. 402 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 7: Welcome, all right, welcome, Thank you Dan for taking a call. Welcome. 403 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 10: Uh. 404 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 7: I don't know about the ag here in Ohio. That's 405 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 7: the first I've heard of him. Doesn't sound like he's 406 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 7: a candidate. 407 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: He is a Democratic candidate for attorney general according to 408 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: his statement, and I believe he's a former state representative 409 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: in your in your legislature. 410 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 7: Okay, I'll have to look him up because I'm not 411 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 7: familiar with him, but it doesn't sound somewhat like somebody 412 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 7: I would vote for on either side of the aisle. Danny, 413 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 7: I'm concerned that versus the Trump's taking advice from the 414 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 7: wrong people that are advising him. And I can specifically 415 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 7: bring up Stephen Miller, who was in his first term 416 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 7: an advisor, and Paul Mattaford got rid of him because 417 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 7: he was I think Paul believed he was a little 418 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 7: bit too edgy in the first in the first uh 419 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 7: Trump administration. Now he seems to have mister Trump's ear 420 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 7: on a lot of immigration issues, and it just seems 421 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 7: that he's coming over and asking these guys, the ice guys, 422 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 7: be a little bit too aggressive because a lot of 423 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 7: times appearance can just put people off. I mean, I'm 424 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 7: not against them even going into jails, you know, make 425 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 7: show me a list. I'd love to see a list 426 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 7: on the Homeland Security of who has been arrested. 427 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 2: But there I think I agree with you. First of all, 428 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: there are a lot of people in this country who 429 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: have come in here illegally and are criminals or have 430 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: committed crimes while they were here. You know, Lincoln Riley, 431 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: and you know the list of names. The list of 432 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 2: names go on and on, and it could have been 433 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: someone in your family, could have been someone in my family, 434 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: God forbid. Who were wrong place, wrong time? A woman 435 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 2: in Georgia out on a run at nine o'clock, a 436 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 2: college student out on a run at nine o'clock in 437 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: the morning. So I did not see the same sort 438 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 2: of emotional outburst of people concerned about her death. It 439 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: was like, well, it didn't affect their families, it didn't 440 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 2: affect someone they knew. But as far as I'm concerned, 441 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 2: any American, you know, they they many people say that 442 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: when one person is discriminated against, it everyone is discriminated against. 443 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 2: And I agree with that. People should not be discriminated. 444 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 7: I agree with your point there. What's happened in Minneapolis 445 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 7: could actually happen in Eddie City in the United States 446 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 7: if someone's coming in with ice and you're not ready 447 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 7: for that. And I mean, they have to work with 448 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 7: Governors have to work with mayors, and I believe that. 449 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 2: And the governors and mayors have to work with them. 450 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it's you're familiar with the case of US 451 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: versus Arizona. I've cited the case when Jan Brewer, Republican 452 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: governor of Arizona in twenty ten, signed a law which 453 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: actually imposed more immigration limitations than the federal government had 454 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 2: had on the books. The US Supreme Court, I think 455 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 2: it was a six to three decision, if I'm not mistaken, 456 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 2: basically said federal government basically preempts immigration law. We kind 457 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: of have fifty We kind of have immigration law for 458 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 2: you know, fifty states, or for however many border states 459 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: we have, and Minnesota is a border state. So yeah, go. 460 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 7: Ahead, I guess I'm trying to ask you, do you 461 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 7: feel the just I've covered swat raids, I've covered masked 462 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 7: raids with its military type police forces coming in to 463 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 7: do crack bus to do drug races. 464 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 2: I've done. If you I was a television reporter for 465 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: thirty one years, I've done those. Are you in the 466 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 2: same business line of work? 467 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 7: I was a videographer for fifteen years with NBC nineties, 468 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 7: so we did the same kind of thing. And it's 469 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 7: just the appearance of when you come in and burst 470 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 7: into a house. Some of those, yeah, they needed it 471 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 7: to be, but the aggression that's going on there, someone 472 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 7: pulling away in a car, I think you can let 473 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 7: them go and you. 474 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: Say, hey, you got the license plate number, you got 475 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: some video of them you. I agree with you. 476 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 7: I've said that you have to shoot somebody. If someone 477 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 7: comes into my house and once you know, and trying 478 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 7: to stealing stuff, my first instinct is, yes, to get 479 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 7: rid of them, but it's not to shoot them. 480 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 2: Now. 481 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 7: If it comes down to it, you know, you have 482 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 7: to defend yourself. I'm just wondering on your end, do 483 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 7: you think ice officers and Steven Miller is trying to 484 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 7: get so many in, you know, ten thousand new hires 485 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 7: in a short period of time. Do you feel their 486 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 7: improperly trained like a police officer would be to de escalate? 487 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 2: Well, let me let me just say this, Eric, and 488 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to avoid you. I have no idea 489 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: what the level of training is. My brothers are retired 490 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 2: Massachusetts State Police lieutenant. I'm very familiar with the training 491 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 2: levels that are expected of the state Police here in 492 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: Massachusetts and the police Department in Boston and other departments. 493 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 2: I think that, uh, that mistakes were made. I've talked 494 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: about them, Okay, so believe me. Mistakes were made. Uh, 495 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: And and I think that the President has recognized that 496 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: whether or not those mistakes emanated from language that Steven 497 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: Miller used or for things that Christy Nome said or did, 498 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 2: that's that's all part of the investigation, so you know. 499 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 2: But at the same time, Walsh and Fry, I think 500 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 2: also should have adopted a posture of I don't maybe 501 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong. I don't think they dropped three thousand 502 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 2: people into Minnesota on any given day. There should have 503 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: been conversations, and if they didn't happen ahead of time, 504 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: shame on whoever was responsible. They should have been an understanding, 505 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: an agreement between state and local and federal what what 506 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 2: would be allowed, what would be necessary, how would would 507 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 2: be conducted? 508 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean a little heads up on both sides. 509 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 7: I too, and I'd love to see that they're getting 510 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 7: rid of the worst of the worst. I'd also love 511 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,719 Speaker 7: to see some statistics on who they are and what 512 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 7: they did. 513 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 2: I think one of the messaging mistakes that the Trump 514 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: administration has made is that they have not let people 515 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:46,239 Speaker 2: know effectively with pictures and citations they might. They have 516 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: to know who these people are, and we deserve to 517 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 2: know who they are as well. I'm not looking for 518 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 2: them to pick up gardeners and people who are farm laborers. 519 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: I'm looking to get the bad guys out, and then 520 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: we can deal with the gardeners and the farm laborers 521 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: and and maybe you can do something to help those 522 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 2: people who were here for the right reasons gain, if 523 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: not full citizenship, some quasi citizenship status for a period 524 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 2: of time to prove that there they would be potentially 525 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 2: good citizens. Eric, I got full line, So I gotta 526 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 2: let you run. This is your first time calling. Have 527 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: you called before? 528 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 7: First? First time? No, sir, how did you find us? 529 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 2: Did you happen to just swing by one night or. 530 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 7: Driving back from a hockey game that I had to 531 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 7: help broadcast that I threw you on AM radio and 532 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 7: I'm glad you're in a nice cozy studio. I heard 533 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 7: that part well. 534 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 2: I am tonight normally normally have broadcast remotely. But I'm 535 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: a hockey guy too. As a lawyer, I repped hockey 536 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 2: client hockey players, NHL players in the eighties, played hockey 537 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: in high school and college, and I think it's a 538 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: and coached hockey with kids when my when my children 539 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 2: were playing, both boys and girls. I'm a big hockey 540 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 2: guy as well. 541 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 7: I kept listening to you, Danny because I like your 542 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 7: common sense approach. So thank you very much for that. 543 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: Thanks again. We'll compare notes sometime. Thanks Eric, talk to 544 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: you soon. I have a great one. 545 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 7: Appreciate good night. 546 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: We're going to take a break here. If you're on 547 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: the line, we're going to get to you. I promise, Okay. 548 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 2: I went a little longer with Eric. I thought he 549 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 2: was a challenging, interesting caller. I got Joe, Patrick, Linda 550 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 2: and Frankie. We're going to get you all. Stay right there. 551 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 2: Coming back on Nightside. 552 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray Boston's News Radio. 553 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 2: We're going to try to get everybody, and let's start 554 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: with Linda in North Weymouth. Linda, I'm going to ask 555 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 2: everybody to be a little more concise. Go ahead, Linda. 556 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,479 Speaker 14: Hi, Dan, you sound much clearer in your studio. By 557 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 14: the way, I know there was a question you wanted 558 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 14: to answer. 559 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 8: All right, Okay, I mind, but. 560 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 14: And I'll make it sure it's late and uh, everything 561 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 14: that I was going to say has been said. But 562 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 14: I do agree that if the mayor and the governor, 563 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 14: if they cooperated what I and helped support them and 564 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 14: turn over these illegal aliens that are criminals, none of 565 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 14: this would be happening. 566 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 2: I think that is a truism. 567 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 7: And uh. 568 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of people out there who whipped 569 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 2: people into a frenzy. 570 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: Uh. 571 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: And I think again, the ice went in, they had 572 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 2: to make the ice officers should have maintained their discipline 573 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 2: a little better. 574 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 11: Uh. 575 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 14: Yeah, I agree, And. 576 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 2: They were in probably a no win situation as well. Linda, 577 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 2: you said it well. I thank you so much, very much. 578 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 2: We'll talk soon. Okay, Thank you, Linda, thanks very much. Okay, 579 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: We'll go next to Joe. Joe is in Lynn, Joe, you're. 580 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 13: Next on Nice I go ahead, Daniel. Audio is perfect. 581 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 13: They wishould broadcast this way all the time. It's perfect. 582 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 13: The reason that happens because it's the liminers. I want 583 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 13: to echo Linda's comment and echo yours. And what the 584 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 13: named fetterman. If the maybe if the Trump had had 585 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 13: the Feds come in and stop this, this wouldn't have happened. 586 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 13: I don't know what Walts and them are going to do. 587 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 13: Maybe they'll be punished later, but all the all the 588 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 13: both sides, the illegals and the people that were causing riots, 589 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 13: my view, should be arrested. I just wanted to touch basely. 590 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 13: You sound perfect, all right, thank you, I appreciate it. 591 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 2: Okay, talk soon, good night. Let's go next to Uh. 592 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 2: Tim is an Arizona. I know who Tim is. Tim, 593 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 2: You're next on Nightside. Go right ahead. We're tight on time. 594 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 15: Yeah, I just want to make it quick. I went 595 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 15: to a restaurant tonight and the first thing I saw 596 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 15: I was eating at the Bay my supper, and that 597 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 15: first thing I saw was mar Healy. And the next 598 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 15: thing I heard everyone the boy's booing at her because 599 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 15: he's uh, he's trying to be making policies for the government, 600 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 15: and and uh, she's not in Arizona. 601 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 2: Therefore, I know you've been in Arizona, but you're not. 602 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 2: You're back home tonight. 603 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 15: No, I'm in Arazon owner. 604 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 2: So she's on the screen. She's not physically in a 605 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 2: bar in Arizona. 606 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 15: No, no, no, she was on national TV. 607 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 2: That's clarified that good enough. 608 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 15: Ahead and then booing the hell out of her. 609 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 2: Okay. 610 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 15: And I talked to one of the cops there and 611 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 15: he said, just let Ice do its jo up and 612 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 15: it goes. They're not perfect. They're going to get investigated. 613 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 15: A few bad apples there, and that's what caused the 614 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 15: thing in Minnesota. 615 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 2: Interesting perspective. 616 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 15: I know many war de Greaves tomorrow, Dan eighty four tomorrow, 617 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 15: Thank you very much. 618 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Have a great night. I'm gonna wrap 619 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 2: it up with Patrick and Charlestown. Patrick. I got about 620 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 2: a minute and a half where you go ahead, pal. 621 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 11: Hey, Dan, your voice sounds just fine to me, by 622 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 11: the way, but you know what, it just sounds like 623 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 11: the same old dance voice. So uh, I'm just kidding 624 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 11: what you did. So hey, listen at the front of 625 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 11: this whole problem is we have a Democratic Party. By 626 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 11: the way, that gentleman who said that Fetterman does not 627 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 11: represent the Democratic Party is right, because what we saw 628 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 11: in the last administration was was an absolute slap in 629 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 11: the face to the democratic will of the entire United States. 630 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 11: And every Democrat I see on Twitter support of what 631 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 11: was happening when they flooded our country. The only one 632 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 11: the exception to the rule was fetterment. Fetament is no 633 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 11: longer the rule in the Democratic Party. 634 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 13: Well there was. 635 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 2: Let me remind you there's also Joe Manchin. Not every Democrat. 636 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,919 Speaker 2: It's more, it's more nuanced than what would you want 637 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 2: me to believe. And I study this stuff pretty carefully. 638 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to give credit where credit is due. And 639 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 2: that's the only point I want to make. I'll give 640 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 2: you thirty more seconds, go right ahead. 641 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm not saying every Democrat saying that that's the 642 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 11: majority position at this point. Second Off, the democratic will 643 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 11: of the people is for immigration enforcement, and the Democratic 644 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 11: Party with the capital D is standing in the way 645 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 11: of the democratic will of the American people. Secondly, the Republicans, 646 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 11: that's to blame too. They have the hell the Senate 647 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 11: and the presidency. They should end the Immigration Act of 648 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 11: nineteen sixty five. They should repeal it. They should repeal 649 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 11: the Immigration Act of nineteen ninety which create a temporary 650 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 11: protective status. And most important of all, they should immediately 651 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 11: terminate the Asylum Act of nineteen eighty, which is used 652 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 11: for massive asylum fraud of the United States. 653 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 7: They have all. 654 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 11: They have all the branches of government, including the Supreme Court. 655 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 11: There's nothing old in the back except for publican business 656 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 11: interests that want continue your asses. 657 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 2: Okay, Patcha and Patrick, you get it all in. I 658 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 2: gave you more than thirty, but you I appreciate it. 659 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,760 Speaker 2: All interesting points. Much for us to discuss. It falls 660 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 2: well the nights right back at you have a great night. 661 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 2: I want to thank everybody. Want to thank my friend 662 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 2: Paul Solana who dropped by to say hello. I want 663 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 2: to thank everyone. 664 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 7: Rob. 665 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 2: Great job. Nice to see you, Rob. I mean that 666 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 2: we will. I'm going to try to do a postgame. 667 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 2: We'll have to see what we can do. My name's 668 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,919 Speaker 2: Dan Ray. This is nice. I had o dogs, all cats, 669 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 2: Oh pets go to heaven. That's my pale Charlie Ray, 670 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 2: who passed sixteen years ago. In February. That's where all 671 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 2: your pets are who had passed. They loved you and 672 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 2: you love them. I do believe you'll see them again. 673 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 2: See again tomorrow night on Nightside. Check it out on 674 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 2: Nice Out with Dan Ray on Facebook in about two 675 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 2: or three minutes