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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,

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Speaker 1: Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back every one thing very much, Dan Watkins, as

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Speaker 2: we move into our nine o'clock hour tonight. Last night

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Speaker 2: we spent two hours talking about the designs that the

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Speaker 2: Trump administration have suggested had suggested that they have on Greenland.

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Speaker 2: This morning, President Trump appeared at the World Economic Forum

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Speaker 2: in Davos, Switzerland, and delivered what can best be described

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Speaker 2: as a rambling speech for I don't know. It was

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Speaker 2: an hour and fifteen minutes in which he had script,

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Speaker 2: he got off script, he went back to script, got

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Speaker 2: off script. It was a very Trumpian speech. Last night,

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Speaker 2: we had the good fortune of having as a guest

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Speaker 2: during the ten o'clock hour the forming Nited States Ambassador

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Speaker 2: to Denmark Alan Leventhal Boston, who represented our country in

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Speaker 2: Denmark from July of twenty twenty two to the last

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Speaker 2: day of the Biden administration January twentieth, twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: and last night. It is fair to say that Ambassador

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Speaker 2: Leventhal sounded an alarm, particularly if Donald Trump were to

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Speaker 2: take the step steps of introducing US military onto the

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Speaker 2: ground in Greenland. Ambassador Leventhal is back with us this evening,

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Speaker 2: and I am really appreciative that you've rejoined us tonight,

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Speaker 2: Ambassador Leventhal, Well.

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Speaker 3: So nice to be with you Dan again this evening.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what I'd like to do is I want to

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Speaker 2: play one SoundBite from the President today and I want

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Speaker 2: to get your reaction to it. And I want to

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Speaker 2: get also your reaction to his speech. And it seemed

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Speaker 2: to me that he has changed course. I hope that

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Speaker 2: is true, but I but you are going to properly

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Speaker 2: look at it from the point of view, the diplomatic

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Speaker 2: point of view, So I don't want to prejudice what

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Speaker 2: you're going to say. I want the honest truth that

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Speaker 2: you provided with us last night, which started a conversation

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Speaker 2: here on Nightside. I don't know if you had to listen,

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Speaker 2: if you listen to it, but it was two hours

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Speaker 2: of the best radio I've done on this program in many,

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Speaker 2: many years. The callers were exquisite. They were all over

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Speaker 2: the board, you know, in terms of their reaction to it.

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Speaker 2: But let's this is what the President had to say,

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Speaker 2: not that he was listening to you on Night Side

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Speaker 2: last night, but maybe someone reached out to him because

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Speaker 2: he did. In my opinion say pretty clearly. And you

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Speaker 2: said to me last night, believe what people say that

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Speaker 2: military force was off the table. This has cut fifty two.

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Speaker 2: Please rob again, ambassador. I want to get your reaction

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Speaker 2: immediately after this. Go ahead, rock forty.

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Speaker 4: We never asked for anything, and we never got anything.

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Speaker 4: We probably won't get anything unless I decide to use

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Speaker 4: excessive strength and force where we would be frankly unstoppable.

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Speaker 2: But I won't do that. Okay.

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Speaker 4: Now everyone's saying, oh good, that's probably the biggest statement

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Speaker 4: a man, because people thought I would use force. I

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Speaker 4: don't have to use force. I don't want to use force.

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Speaker 2: I won't use force.

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Speaker 4: All the United States is asking for is a place

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Speaker 4: called Greenland, where we already had it as a trustee,

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Speaker 4: but respectfully returned it back to Denmark not long ago

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Speaker 4: after we defeated the Germans, the Japanese, the Italians and others.

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Speaker 2: In World War Two.

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Speaker 4: We gave it back to them.

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Speaker 2: Ambassador. I'm not going to ask you to conjugate that sentence,

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Speaker 2: because obviously you probably one of the few people who

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Speaker 2: remember the word used to conjugate sentences at blackboards when

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Speaker 2: we were kids, and I think that's what you were

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Speaker 2: laughing at having heard the president. I'm sure you heard

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Speaker 2: more of him this morning. I have to just ask you,

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Speaker 2: what's your reaction to it? Seems to me at least

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Speaker 2: a difference in tone, hopefully more.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 6: Dan.

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Speaker 3: First of all, I have to say, you're smarter than

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Speaker 3: I am, and you're a little someone because you said

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Speaker 3: last night when we were talking about this, that this

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Speaker 3: was going to happen. So I compliment you on your

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Speaker 3: pretiense and and understanding what predicting what would happen here.

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Speaker 2: I thank you, but I have no doubt that you

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Speaker 2: know more, much, much more about this than I do.

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Speaker 3: So and I and I said last night that I

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Speaker 3: What I was when I when I think about his

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Speaker 3: much better today when I heard that comment this morning

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Speaker 3: hopeful that this will be put to bed so that

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Speaker 3: were at a very dangerous spot for America in our

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Speaker 3: and Taiwan, with a potential trade war between Europe and

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Speaker 3: the US. I felt this was we were really at

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Speaker 3: a tipping point, and the fact that I feel better today,

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Speaker 3: but I'd like to know more tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: So the question is is he so mercurial that, even

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Speaker 2: that he could do another one eighty.

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Speaker 3: Well, anything's possible. But I think what we've seen, and

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Speaker 3: I think what why I think that would be likely,

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Speaker 3: is we've seen the resolve of the EU and particularly

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Speaker 3: the European countries that he was going to post haarriffs on,

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Speaker 3: and they stood strong, and they and they set a

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Speaker 3: strong message so and and Denmark's has stood strong. So

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Speaker 3: in that sense, I think this has been a very

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Speaker 3: important day and I don't think we're turning back from.

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Speaker 2: It the NATO Secretary General Mark Rita, who was former

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Speaker 2: Prime minister I guess in the Netherlands. As I understand

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Speaker 2: that correct.

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Speaker 3: Very very long, long term and very effective, yes, and.

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Speaker 2: From what I understand, a solid guy.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: He apparently has a relationship with the president. I wonder

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Speaker 2: if if maybe he played a role in trying to

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Speaker 2: talk the president off the ledge of which which could

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Speaker 2: have been a particularly dangerous place to be.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure you've noticed that over the past couple

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Speaker 3: of days where they asked him for comment, he didn't

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Speaker 3: see anything, yes, and so there was there was clearly

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Speaker 3: something going on in terms of discussions with the President

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Speaker 3: or the administration. But book we'll find out more over

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Speaker 3: the next few days. But I'm very anxious to hear

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Speaker 3: in the morning to read what if there's any more news.

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Speaker 2: Could I impose upon you for one more segment? I

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Speaker 2: know last night we were a little later, but I

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Speaker 2: promise I would. I would let you go at nine

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Speaker 2: thirty and not keep you beyond that or not entertain

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Speaker 2: or subject you to phone calls because there will be

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Speaker 2: people on different points, different points of view here, and

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Speaker 2: I also, most importantly I would love to uh ask

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Speaker 2: come away from this potential confrontation with something to brag

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Speaker 2: about from a diplomatic point of view, I'd love to

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Speaker 2: if you'd be so if you'd be so kind to

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Speaker 2: sketch out what you either think might happen or what

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Speaker 2: you would hope could happen.

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Speaker 3: Well, Dan, I look, the big two big steps you

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Speaker 3: talked about is no no, no use of force and

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Speaker 3: uh and the taris off the table, okay, and it

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Speaker 3: and it appears and I you know, I hate to

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Speaker 3: speculate about this. What it appears that there's going to

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Speaker 3: be some type of redo of the existing security agreement

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Speaker 3: and the ability to provide have more bases. Perhaps it

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Speaker 3: be a longer term. I think that the President made

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Speaker 5: But all of this, you know, all.

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Speaker 3: Of this could have been done from the beginning because

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Speaker 3: the Danes, I just feel so close to the US.

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Speaker 3: The US is the closest ally to Denmark and the Danes.

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Speaker 3: Danes have such love of the US and will do

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Speaker 3: anything for the US. And I think I mentioned last evening,

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Speaker 3: So they will do anything for the US and the agreement,

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Speaker 3: and that we have from nineteen fifty one contemplated additional basis.

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Speaker 3: Whether it's a new agreement, it's a longer agreement. I

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Speaker 3: don't know what the terms will be, but I'm hopeful

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Speaker 3: we'll know more about that and then we can move

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Speaker 3: on and put behind us.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, let me take the speculation off the table

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Speaker 2: and let me see if I can convince you to

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Speaker 2: stay with me for a few more minutes. I'll go

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Speaker 2: let you go to nine thirty. But what I wanted

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Speaker 2: to ask you about was, is this a genuine concern

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Speaker 2: that we, as Americans, Democrats, Republicans, people support Trump, people

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Speaker 2: don't support Trump, should have based upon geography and the

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Speaker 2: proximity and the potential of as the President has seemed

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Speaker 2: to sketch it out, Soviet Russian missiles or Chinese missiles.

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Speaker 2: Or is the concern itself overrated? Can I ask you

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Speaker 3: A concern about security agreements with Greenland, and we absolutely

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Speaker 3: should be concerned about that the President's right about that

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Speaker 3: there should be a focus, focus of ours. It was

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Speaker 3: a focus of mine when I was ambassador. Okay, I

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Speaker 3: the experts on the mineral said, what do we need?

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Speaker 3: What do we want? Tell me which? And so it

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Speaker 3: is a I said from the beginning, I agree with

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Speaker 3: Absolutely Okay, But but I said from the beginning, we

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Speaker 3: don't have to threaten them fair enough. That's difference.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to let I'm going to let you go

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Speaker 2: because I think you capitalize that very quickly and very effectively.

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Speaker 2: I so much thank you for your time, not only tonight,

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Speaker 3: And I have to say, Dan, as a listener of

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Speaker 3: such an astute person doing this as often as you

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Speaker 3: are and engaging in any point to So thank you

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Speaker 3: for what you do.

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Speaker 2: Mister ambassador. I'm humbled by your comment and I hope

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Speaker 2: to have you back many times in the future. You

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Speaker 2: have served this country so well and have helped my

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Speaker 2: audience understand a situation that you have much more knowledge

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Speaker 2: of than I could ever even hope to have. So

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Speaker 2: thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: We will talk, sir, my pleasure right.

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Speaker 2: Back at you. Thanks, Ambassador Alan Leventhal, former United States

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Speaker 2: Ambassador Denmark. Let me take a quick break here, we

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Speaker 2: come back. We'll set it up, and I want to

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Speaker 2: change of tone or maybe even more from President Trump.

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Speaker 2: I think it's been fascinating to have the ambassador, former

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Speaker 2: nights in a row. So let us reach for the

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Speaker 2: We're talking about what is the US future in Greenland?

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Speaker 2: So we only have a couple of minutes left here

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Speaker 2: I just want to set this up. Last night, we

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Speaker 2: This is an important issue. As Ambassador Leventhal just mentioned,

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Speaker 2: All right, the President went to Davos today. It was

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Speaker 4: We saw this in World War Two when Denmark fell

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Speaker 2: So we did it for ourselves. Also. So the speech

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Speaker 4: We never asked for anything, and we never got anything.

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Speaker 4: We probably won't get anything unless I decide to use

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Speaker 4: All the United States is asking for is a place

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Speaker 2: go first to Joe and Quincy. Joe, what a difference

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Speaker 2: to day makes, I guess is what I'd like to say?

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Speaker 2: How are you today? How are you tonight?

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Speaker 2: So? What's your thought as to how this has played out?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that is in my opinion, I think Donald Trump

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Speaker 9: I believe I could be wrong, but never once did

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Speaker 2: he's not going to do it that way. I hope.

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Speaker 9: So I agree and I feel the same way. But

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Speaker 5: That was the right thing.

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Speaker 2: I tend there's nothing new that I could say that

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Speaker 5: Hey, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: Ye.

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Speaker 5: I think Ronald Trump is brilliant and he knows how

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Speaker 5: But what he did was he focused their attention on

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Speaker 2: So you never had in the back of your mind

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Speaker 2: They literally do not have they have a police force.

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Speaker 2: It's not what you would call a military force. That

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Speaker 5: Absolutely not. He's a smart man. You know, only the

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Speaker 2: He touches, unfortunately for him at this point. And he

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Speaker 2: down from where they were a year ago.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And what I attribute that to is the NonStop

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Speaker 5: crazy trunk arrangement, media seating, you know, crisis, you know,

442
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Speaker 5: chicken little the sky is falling. Day after day. They

443
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Speaker 5: take every little issue and they make it like, you know,

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Speaker 5: a world crisis, whether it's you know, Epstein or arresting

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Speaker 5: illegals or whatever. That's all you get day in day

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Speaker 5: out from the mainstream media. That's why the balls are down.

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Speaker 5: But if you look at the facts, if you look

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Speaker 5: at the facts on prices, the economy, security, everything is

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Speaker 5: pointing up.

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Speaker 2: Well, he has about ten months be well, nine months

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Speaker 2: now when you I guess ten months to November. If

452
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Speaker 2: he loses control of the House and Senate, he will

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Speaker 2: become a lame duck president in the final two years

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Speaker 2: of his second term.

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Speaker 5: So this, yeah, and that would be a shame. And

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Speaker 5: that's what the you know, the forces of evil in

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Speaker 5: this country are trying to make happen. But you know,

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Speaker 5: it's a long way off and he hasn't begun the

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Speaker 5: campaign yet.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, look, I really appreciate you calling and Jim,

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Speaker 2: have you called before or and if not, I want

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Speaker 2: you to become more.

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Speaker 5: Of a regular Okay, thank you, bye very.

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Speaker 2: Much, Jim and Concord, Massachusetts will continue our conversation. I

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Speaker 2: want to hear from you. The Greenland situation is not over, however,

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Speaker 2: I think it's pretty clear, as Ambassador Leventhal said that

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Speaker 2: the President now has taken a position publicly in front

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Speaker 2: of the world at the Davos Economic Summit that he

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Speaker 2: cannot reverse himself. They must have been some behind the

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Speaker 2: scenes negotiations involving people like Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State.

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Speaker 2: So for him to come out and say today that

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Speaker 2: that he has basically will not use. When I say

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Speaker 2: military force, forget going in with guns blazing, I'm talking

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Speaker 2: about what good would have it done to have landed

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Speaker 2: the eighty second Airborne Division there, What would be what

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Speaker 2: would have been accomplished, what would have they occupied the

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Speaker 2: homes of Greenlanders? I think not the only military bases

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Speaker 2: up there are military bases that the US has. I

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Speaker 2: am not as familiar as I would hope to be

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Speaker 2: as to how modern those bases are and are they

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Speaker 2: equipped with all of the equipment that is necessary to

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Speaker 2: do with the president Fields needs to be done in

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Speaker 2: the short term. He keeps referring to sort of a

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Speaker 2: golden dome similar to what Israel has, where they can

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Speaker 2: shoot down rockets as they approach. So we will continue.

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Speaker 2: Got to take a quick break. Six one, seven, two, five, four,

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Speaker 2: ten thirty. There's one line there and six one seven,

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Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. I want to hear from

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Speaker 2: as many people as possible Again. Last night, it was

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Speaker 2: an extraordinary group of callers. And I know that there

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Speaker 2: are many of you out there who have not expressed

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Speaker 2: your opinion on this. I need your voice as well.

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Speaker 2: This is important. This is about not only your future,

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Speaker 2: but the future of your kids and the future of

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Speaker 2: your grandchildren. There's a lot at stake here. I know

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Speaker 2: that many people are very excited about the Patriots being

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Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl. I understand that, but that doesn't

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Speaker 2: have much real impact on your life, or on your

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Speaker 2: children's lives, or on your grandchildren's lives. When we're talking

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Speaker 2: about here on night Side often, and particularly tonight and

501
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Speaker 2: last night, these are issues that will affect what sort

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Speaker 2: of a life your kids inherent, and what sort of

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Speaker 2: a life your children inherent, and your grandchildren and your

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Speaker 2: great grandchildren. And this is this is serious what we're

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Speaker 2: talking about tonight. And I don't want to be disappointed

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Speaker 2: after an extraordinary night last night, So feel free. The

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Speaker 2: only line I have one line at six one seven,

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Speaker 2: coming right back on Nightside.

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Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's News Radio.

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Speaker 2: We have full lines right now. So don't be you know,

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Speaker 2: dialing when we have full lines, but I will let

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Speaker 2: you know when something comes available that's for sure. Let

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Speaker 2: me go next to gonna go to Joe. Joe, you

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Speaker 2: are next on Nightside. Welcome.

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Speaker 10: Thank you for giving me another chance at this Dan,

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Speaker 10: I sent you an email, keep reminding you, and I

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Speaker 10: wish I could have seen that thing or President Trump,

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Speaker 10: but I don't know what station he's on when he

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Speaker 10: comes on. You can tell me.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, I'll tell you right I'll tell you right now

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Speaker 2: to hesitate to ask a question, Joe. His speech at Davos,

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Speaker 2: in its entirety was carried both by Fox and CNN.

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Speaker 2: Those are the two cable news networks. Remember it cable

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Speaker 2: news networks. But I do not believe that uh, the

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Speaker 2: the the so called mainstream media networks chose to uh

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Speaker 2: cover it, and and I think that's unfortunate because when

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Speaker 2: you do too, and you see what was going on

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Speaker 2: at that hour of the morning. I don't know they

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Speaker 2: had a you know, a couple of the the the

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Speaker 2: morning talk shows that that talk about you know, fashion

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Speaker 2: and uh in movies and and things like that. Uh,

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Speaker 2: nothing of any in my opinion, you know, great great importance.

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Speaker 2: That's that's for sure.

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Speaker 10: Thanks for telling me. I'll remember next time. I think

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Speaker 10: that's we should have Greenland. But I don't think we

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Speaker 10: should acquire Greenland. I think it's their right. We can

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Speaker 10: help them, maybe help them get how to protect themselves,

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Speaker 10: but we don't need to acquire. We have too many

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Speaker 10: problems over here in this country, as you know.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he I don't think he's looking to

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Speaker 2: acquire it. I don't think he's going to occupy it.

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Speaker 2: I think he's going to get to the point where

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Speaker 2: there's some sort of a conversation and there will be

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Speaker 2: some sort of an agreement. I don't know how much

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Speaker 2: work needs to be done. I believe we have just

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Speaker 2: one air force base up there, which is now technically

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Speaker 2: I guess a space force station. Uh. You know, they

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Speaker 2: they need to put things in place to make sure

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Speaker 2: that that we're not wide open and undefended, not defend

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Speaker 2: against if the so if the Russians or the Chinese

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Speaker 2: decide to throw some missiles in our direction.

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Speaker 10: And well, but it's interesting he changed his tune. I

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Speaker 10: remember him specifically saying, we're going to acquire Greenland.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have it. I think, well, I think I

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Speaker 2: have even there might have even been some conversation today.

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Speaker 2: He was he you, I wish you had had a

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Speaker 2: chance to see the entire speech, because he he did

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Speaker 2: have some comments that initially thought, gee, what are we

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Speaker 2: going to do here? Okay, and you can you can. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: As they say, he's changed his tune, which is I

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Speaker 2: think a good thing. Uh And.

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Speaker 10: Sometimes he gets like a bully though, Dan, sometimes I

563
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Speaker 10: know it does.

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Speaker 2: He gets that a lot. He does that a lot.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, before he authorized the raid on

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Speaker 2: uh Maduro in Venezuela, he was having conversations phone conversations

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Speaker 2: with It would be like say, Joe, if you don't

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Speaker 2: do this, I'm gonna come over and I'm gonna send

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Speaker 2: the people over and we're gonna kidnap you.

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Speaker 10: Then now we still have other problems there. The vice president,

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Speaker 10: which is supposed to work with him, may may not

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Speaker 10: work with him.

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Speaker 3: We don't talk.

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Speaker 2: We will talk about Venezuela a lot, but tonight we'll

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Speaker 2: stick with with Greenland. I want to get one more Joe. Okay, thanks,

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Speaker 2: you have a great night, Joe and Belmont. Joe next

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Speaker 2: on Nisaka.

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Speaker 7: Right ahead, Dan, I want to throw this open to

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Speaker 7: you in your audience. I was reading in the New

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Speaker 7: York Post today that there was an article Trump was

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Speaker 7: saying God is on his side, and God is I

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Speaker 7: don't know if this is true or not, but God

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Speaker 7: is kind of backing up everything he's doing. I recommend

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Speaker 7: your audience read it now. I'm saying that that I

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Speaker 7: hope Trump doesn't think that God is taking every position

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Speaker 7: he's doing.

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Speaker 2: But I have no idea, Joe. You know what, I

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Speaker 2: have no idea what what what sort of a relationship

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Speaker 2: he may have with God. I have no idea what

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Speaker 2: God thinks about him. I'm more interested in what you

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Speaker 2: think about Greenland.

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Speaker 7: Well, well, I'm kind of worried about Trump thinking God's

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Speaker 7: taking every position he makes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know what, Joe, I will open up an

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Speaker 2: entire conversation about that sometime in the next few weeks,

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Speaker 2: and I will want you to make be one of

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Speaker 2: the first callers. But we're not doing God talk tonight,

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Speaker 2: I promise. Okay.

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Speaker 7: But one thing, one thing he did do he moved

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Speaker 7: the capitol from Tel Aviv to Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And that's another topic we'll talk on, but we're not

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Speaker 2: talking about that tonight. Thanks, Joe, appreciate your call. Let

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Speaker 2: me go to Bill in Pennsylvania. Bill, you have a

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Speaker 2: right to take a bit of a victory lap because

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Speaker 2: I think last night we'll make an exception and give

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Speaker 2: you a second call this week. You were pretty accurate,

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Speaker 2: Go right ahead.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it was because you know why, damn, Because I'm practical,

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Speaker 8: and because Comp's been doing the same thing for the

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Speaker 8: last eleven years. And what really gets me is after

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Speaker 8: he does it, and after he goes over there to

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Speaker 8: Doubos and makes his speech today that the media okay,

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Speaker 8: we're they were uh, they didn't know how to take it.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it was, it was, it was hilarious. And

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Speaker 8: let me say, if you can get the clips okay

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Speaker 8: on CNN. Uh, Ambassador Bill Taylor, okay, the former ambassador

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Speaker 8: to Ukraine. Yep, under if you can get the clip

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Speaker 8: when he first came on CNN and if and the

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Speaker 8: lady was asking him this, and you should get try

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Speaker 8: to get that clip because it's it's amazing. How how

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Speaker 8: Bill Taylor and me? Okay, he said exactly the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe he listened to our show last night and

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Speaker 2: he heard you.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they ought to They ought to listen to your

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Speaker 8: show because the people who listened to your show are

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Speaker 8: smarter than half those people down at Washtington. That guy

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Speaker 8: that was just gone there a couple of seconds ago.

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Speaker 8: He made a lot of sense and he uh, he

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Speaker 8: said it like it was. Trump is practical and and

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Speaker 8: these people just don't get it. They've never had any

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Speaker 8: They've never we've been all these politicians in Washington year

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Speaker 8: after year. Remember Simpson bowls. Okay, there's a perfect Yeah.

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Speaker 8: That that that gentleman was talking a little bit before.

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Speaker 8: He said, they don't do anything. Yeah, they sit around,

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Speaker 8: they have a conference, and they have a meeting. Okay,

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Speaker 8: we're gonna have Simpson bowls. That was That was a

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Speaker 8: Barack Obama he made. He made Simpson bowls, and Simpson

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Speaker 8: Bowls came out and made all the recommendations, and they

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Speaker 8: threw it in the trash. All right, But if had

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Speaker 8: implemented Simpson bowls, our economy today would be way way

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Speaker 8: better than it is.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the economy is getting better. Uh and

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Speaker 2: and I think that you can't you can't look at

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Speaker 2: the economy without realizing we went through COVID, which was

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Speaker 2: devastating to this country, and we're we're lucky where we are.

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Speaker 2: I think that I think that there's there's some good

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Speaker 2: days ahead. Let's hope that that the the good times

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Speaker 2: keep rolling for everyone because, as President Kennedy said, a

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Speaker 2: lifting tide, right, uh, you know, all boats riseing a

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Speaker 2: lifting tide.

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Speaker 8: And and then you said it just a little while ago. Okay,

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Speaker 8: Trump is he he's not done with He's not done

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Speaker 8: with this deal. Okay, Okay, Bill, I hate to do this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I took you before the newscast. I didn't want

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Speaker 2: you to break. Wait, but we got to go to

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Speaker 2: news and we will talk again and you can continue

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Speaker 2: your victory lap. Okay, thank you much. Quick one six, one, seven, two, five, four,

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Speaker 2: ten thirty. Those lines are open. Feel free to join us.

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Speaker 2: Coming back on Nightside