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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Back Sincy three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty, third and

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Speaker 2: final hour on this Tuesday, October fourteenth. I am ast

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Speaker 2: to know more with you until three o'clock, will turn

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Speaker 2: things over to Moe Egger. Then phone lines back open

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Speaker 2: at five, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty. Still to come.

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Speaker 2: Should the Bengals trade Trey Henderson? Here what Boomersiasin had

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Speaker 2: to say about that. Plus Dan Pitcher, the Bengals offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 2: talked about Joe Flacco and what we got out of

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Speaker 2: Flaco Sunday, what we might get out of him on

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Speaker 2: Thursday night. Joe Flaco supposed to meet with the media

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Speaker 2: lay this afternoon. We won't be able to air it,

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Speaker 2: at least not on this show, but we'll get the

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Speaker 2: best of that for you tomorrow on SINCY three sixty

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase will also speak as everything's kind of sped up.

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Speaker 2: The timeline's a little bit different this week due to

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Speaker 2: the short week Thursday night game. By the way, the

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Speaker 2: game will be heard right here on ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 2: and as I mentioned earlier, I've got the postgame show

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Speaker 2: from twelve thirty Am to two thirty AM right here

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Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty and seven hundred WLW listen anywhere

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Speaker 2: from the iHeartRadio app. I got to talk about this.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone cares, but I just want

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Speaker 2: to talk about it. I had the chance to go

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Speaker 2: If anyone who knows me would tell you, I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: trip to see the Bengals play at lambeau Field. I

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Speaker 2: I've completely fallen in love with it. I'm enamored by it.

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Speaker 2: But this trip, there was no work. It was just

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Speaker 2: I went on this trip by myself. I had some

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Speaker 2: And so I stayed outside of lambeau Or. I stayed

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Speaker 2: I get their Thursday evening and I get cheese kurds,

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Speaker 2: And you're met with this sign that says, welcome to

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Speaker 2: of the blueprint for a lot of teams these days.

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Speaker 2: Like that is legitimately who they are and that was

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincy three sixty on Austin

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Speaker 2: this afternoon from three to six. Just talked about my

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Speaker 4: Thanks for taking my call, buddy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me. What's up?

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Speaker 4: I I just want to say that, uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: Thanks for the courtesy to laugh there.

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Speaker 4: Hey, you know, who was it that you were talking

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I agree with you guys completely. Two weeks ago,

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Speaker 4: And then they signed Joe Flacco, and I think the

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Speaker 4: I hear you and Joe dam and talk and I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: this is the season. Thursday is the season. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: You don't have anything else to do Thursday night, Chris,

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Speaker 4: I mean you know I might as well.

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Speaker 5: It's on TV.

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Speaker 4: You know. Well, anyways, Hey, Audie, congratulations on the show

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Speaker 2: Everything, Chris, thank you. I appreciate it and all your

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Speaker 2: that's obvious. You came to a compromise.

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Speaker 2: gonna need depth, and that you're gonna need more draft picks,

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Speaker 2: you should be open to trading Trey Hendrickson. And not

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Speaker 2: just Trey Hendrickson, should be open to trading Logan Wilson too.

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Speaker 2: If you're committed to the youth movement at linebacker. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure there's a team out there that would take one.

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Speaker 2: San Francisco just lost Fred Warner for the season. Now,

439
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Speaker 2: Logan Wilson's no Fred Warner. Nobody is, but I'm sure

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Speaker 2: they'd take him. I'm sure there are some good teams

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Speaker 2: out there looking for a linebacker that they wouldn't mind

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Speaker 2: trading draft capital for and get something in return. Keep

443
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Speaker 2: in mind, the Bengals did a pick swap with the

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Speaker 2: Browns for Joe Flacco, so they moved back about eighty spots.

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Speaker 2: If I know the Bengals, they value draft picks, I

446
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Speaker 2: would assume they want to get those eighty spots back.

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Speaker 2: I would assume they would try to get back into

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Speaker 2: the fourth at the very least for someone like Logan Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Definitely for Trey Hendrickson. Here's what Boomer A. Sizon had

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Speaker 2: to say. Boomer was on the Up and Adams Show

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Speaker 2: with Kay Adams. This is about fifty seconds long. This

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Speaker 2: is the conversation Boomer had with Ka about trading Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 7: If he's healthy, I would trade him if you could

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Speaker 7: get some quality draft picks back, because that's how they're

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Speaker 7: going to have to rebuild their team. They got, they

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Speaker 7: got the offense, They've got to make some key acquisitions

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Speaker 7: in the draft on defense to go along with Shamar

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Speaker 7: Stewart and to see if they can rebuild that defense.

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Speaker 7: And any of these teams with losing records that really

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Speaker 7: don't have the chance at the playoffs, they got to

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Speaker 7: move away from guys that they think are tradeable assets

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Speaker 7: and bring back draft choices. All these teams, the Lions,

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Speaker 7: the Broncos, all these teams come out of the duldrums

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Speaker 7: when they make key trades now for Jared Goff, of course,

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Speaker 7: or a key draft like you know, Bo Nicks, and

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Speaker 7: that's what you need.

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Speaker 3: You need draft assets.

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Speaker 7: You need to get younger, you need to get faster,

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Speaker 7: and you certainly need to get cheaper.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we wait a week though, on the trade, and

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Speaker 3: that's what.

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Speaker 2: I agree with Kay Adams there. Maybe you wait a

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Speaker 2: week with Trey Hendrickson, see where you're at the mini buy,

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Speaker 2: and then go from there. But you should be having

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Speaker 2: these conversations right now. If you're Duke Toven, if you're

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Speaker 2: Zach Taylor, if you're the Bengals, where are we willing

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Speaker 2: to go? How are we willing to pivot if this

478
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Speaker 2: thing gets out of hand. We tried Joe Flacco, it

479
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Speaker 2: didn't cost us very much. Can we do something to

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Speaker 2: set ourselves up going into next year? They're going to

481
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Speaker 2: have plenty of money, even more so if they move

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Speaker 2: on from Trey Hendrickson and give yourself a fresh start

483
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Speaker 2: to flip this roster over quickly so that you're not

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Speaker 2: wasting a year next year rebuilding. That can't be an option.

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Speaker 2: You cannot waste another year with Joe Burrow when he's

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Speaker 2: back healthy next year, you just can't. I think you

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Speaker 2: open up the door and consider doing the same thing

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Speaker 2: with Logan Wilson. Maybe with Cam Taylor Britt if there's

489
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Speaker 2: a team out there that thinks they could fix him.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you get anything for him, but

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Speaker 2: maybe these are all conversations that need to be had.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a break, we'll come back. Phone lines open

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Speaker 2: five point three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty. This is

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Speaker 8: The stretch and the pitch. Julio swinging the drive deep

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Speaker 8: down the left field lines. Stay fair, is a fair ball?

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Speaker 8: Goodbye baseball? Just fair dom the left field line, Julio

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Speaker 8: rod Rigguez. We have a home run scoring Randy and

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Speaker 8: cal On in front of him.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 8: Just like that, the Mariners have a three nothing lead

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Speaker 8: here in the top of the first sitting.

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Speaker 2: That was the call on Seattle's Sports seven to ten,

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Speaker 2: By the way, Seattle up two games to none on

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Speaker 2: Toronto in that series. Getting ready to go back to

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Speaker 2: Seattle before long. And I'm kind of rooting for the Mariners, man,

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Speaker 2: I want the Mariners to go all the way. Brewers

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Speaker 2: Dodgers Game two tonight. Dodgers took the first game in

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Speaker 2: that series by a score of two to one in

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Speaker 2: a wild game. As the Major League Baseball playoffs continue

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Speaker 2: that as our wind Shooler's Call of the day, have

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Speaker 2: a couple of minutes for phone calls. Let's go to

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Speaker 2: Jeff in Virginia. What's up, Jeff, Happy.

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Speaker 4: Tuesday, Austin. Congrats on getting the gig.

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Speaker 3: We'll all be right behind you. You know that. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 9: You hit on two topics that have been driving me nuts.

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Speaker 9: The we us thing and the packers thing too, so

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Speaker 9: I'll combine both of them. The trip I did the

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Speaker 9: same trip you did. I got to go on the

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Speaker 9: tour the day before you did. I got to go

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Speaker 9: in the I got to go in the visitors locker room,

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Speaker 9: which I've been in nicer high school locker rooms, to

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Speaker 9: be honest with you. And when we did our tours,

533
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Speaker 9: don't walk on the field, and our guy told the

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Speaker 9: story of people who have brought ashes in and spread

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Speaker 9: ashes on the field in there and it's killed the grass,

536
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Speaker 9: which I thought was wow, I get it. I can't

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Speaker 9: imagine how many people want their ashes spread at lambeau Field.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, they probably get so many requests it.

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Speaker 4: Must be unbelievable.

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Speaker 9: And then onto the weis and you stop me if

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Speaker 9: you think I'm not going the right way here. I

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Speaker 9: got caught in traffic even you know, I don't know

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Speaker 9: how to get out of Green Bay, and I probably

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Speaker 9: made two wrong turns and I was just sitting in traffic.

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Speaker 6: So I had the.

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Speaker 9: Post game on, and we all love Lap. Lap is a.

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Speaker 4: Homer, He's our homer. He's history of the franchise.

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Speaker 3: We love him.

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Speaker 9: We need somebody who goes in the locker room and

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Speaker 9: doesn't ask Sunshine and Lollipop questions though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it's part of Lap's personality,

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Speaker 2: and you understand Lap, you know, works for the Bengals

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Speaker 2: and it does have a personal relationship with a lot

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Speaker 2: of these guys. And I don't know that the Bengals

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Speaker 2: postgame show with Dave Lapham is where you're going to

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Speaker 2: be looking for those types of questions those guys are

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Speaker 2: then after he comes in or after he leaves, or

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Speaker 2: when you know, the rest of the media comes in

559
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Speaker 2: and gets to ask many of the same questions that

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Speaker 2: you'd probably be looking for.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm not asking to embarrass anybody or press anybody,

562
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Speaker 9: but I'm like, it's there's a little bit of kid

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Speaker 9: glove stuff there.

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Speaker 4: And you're right.

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Speaker 9: I hope the local guys and the Beat reporters, especially

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Speaker 9: after Jamar admitted he went in the huddle and changed

567
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Speaker 9: to play every week, Zach needs to be asked about

568
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Speaker 9: giving up play calling by the local guys and.

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Speaker 3: The Beat report.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm sure he will, and Jeff, thank you

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Speaker 2: for the phone call. I'm sure he will. And I

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00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 2: didn't get to hear the whole thing yesterday. I got

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00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: to hear bits and pieces of it, but I would

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Speaker 2: imagine play calling was brought up again. I don't expect

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Speaker 2: it to change, but I think it's fair to ask

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Speaker 2: him about it, especially if the offense continues to underperform.

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Speaker 2: That's it for phone calls today. We are out of

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Speaker 2: time because we've got to take a break and check

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Speaker 2: in with Moe Egger, who's standing by for Quick Hits

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Speaker 2: from Oakley Greens ahead of the Moegger Show this afternoon

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Speaker 2: from three to six. That's next right here on Cincy

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Speaker 2: three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: S ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station. It's time three

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Speaker 1: sixty Quick Hits.

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Speaker 2: On FEOK for Yes, indeed, it is welcome in to

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Speaker 2: since three sixties Quick Hits joined now by our friend

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Speaker 2: Moe Egger live from Oakley Greens where the Tony or no,

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Speaker 2: We're the mo Egger Show got lee. I was thinking

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Speaker 2: Tony and Mo Football Show because to to really Today's Monday.

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Speaker 3: I got really.

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Speaker 6: Excited for a second.

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Speaker 3: I screwed that up.

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Speaker 2: Today's Monday to me, and I was just as that's

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Speaker 2: muscle memory right there.

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Speaker 6: Hi, Mo, how are you Oh, I'm wonderful. How about

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Speaker 6: It's nice to have you back. It looks like you

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Speaker 6: had it. Sounds like I had an awesome time at

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Speaker 6: lambeau Field.

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Speaker 2: Thanks man. Yeah, I won't shut up about it. It was

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Speaker 2: the coolest thing I ever got to do.

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Speaker 3: I blame you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, look looked your photos looked awesome. Listening to you

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Speaker 6: talk about it looked awesome. And uh yeah, good for you, man,

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Speaker 6: that's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you. You've got a sports talk radio show

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Speaker 2: coming up this afternoon. What's going to be on it.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna have Dave Lapham on and I'm gonna ask him.

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Speaker 6: Why don't you ask tougher questions in the locker room?

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Speaker 6: It's live radio, man, Okay, Like here's here's why that

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Speaker 6: is live. Okay, everybody else goes in there. It's not

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Speaker 6: live on radio. It's not live on TV. For the

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Speaker 6: most part. My man's live. Like you hear him, Like.

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Speaker 5: Okay, let's see if I can catch up to Noah Fan. No,

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Speaker 5: I got got a few minutes. No, they're just okay,

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Speaker 5: tough one out there today.

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Speaker 6: It's live, so he's gonna live on the air. Hey

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Speaker 6: or big O Orlando talk talk to you, Okay, get

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Speaker 6: you for a few minutes. Okay, I know you're naked.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Yeah, And the guys did a good job on

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Speaker 5: on Michael.

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Speaker 6: Parsons like, it's live radio. Is our ambushing people? No,

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Speaker 6: So there's your answer, Dave.

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Speaker 5: That is live.

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Speaker 6: That is And to me, it's I love that part

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Speaker 6: of the places. It's because it's unscripted, and I you know,

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Speaker 6: I don't like it when the Bengals lose, but I

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Speaker 6: like it. I like listening to lap do that when

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Speaker 6: they lose because you know, he's got to be hush tones.

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Speaker 3: That's really hard to do.

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Speaker 6: It's really hard to do hush tones. So it's it's

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Speaker 6: almost like he's reporting from the trenches of a war, right,

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Speaker 6: and he's got to walk up to these guys and

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Speaker 6: ask them while he's on the radio if they'll and

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Speaker 6: most of them are cool, most of them, yeah, Stave Lapham,

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Speaker 6: you don't. But there have been times, yea where you've like,

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Speaker 6: see if I see if I get a few minutes

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Speaker 6: here with with Geno Atkins Gino, Yeah, okay, okay, I

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Speaker 6: got you, Okay, cool, you're naked, okay, all right? Uh

639
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Speaker 6: see if I can see if I grab Andre Smith

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Speaker 6: here for Andre. Yeah, okay, no, no, okay, Andre doesn't

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Speaker 6: want to talk that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think i've ever heard Laps say you're naked

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Speaker 2: on the air though.

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Speaker 6: Who's gonna win a who's gonna get the one hundred

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Speaker 6: dollars gift card? I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, today we're uh I give that to Jermaine Gresham.

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Speaker 3: I tell you what, yea one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 6: I mean so, so there's there's perhaps why you're you're

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Speaker 6: you're not exactly getting somebody doing muck raking journalism live

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Speaker 6: on the ring muck raking.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, uh so what is actually going to be.

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Speaker 6: My laps back? Dude's going to the Ring of Honor

653
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Speaker 6: now we dumped on him for his post game and

654
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Speaker 6: I know, I know, uh what do you want to know?

655
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Speaker 6: What's on the show?

656
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Speaker 5: Me?

657
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 6: I don't believe in moral victories, but I believe in context.

658
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Speaker 3: Austin Oh, I think one of the most important.

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Speaker 6: Things in life is context, understanding context, and I will

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Speaker 6: make that make sense. We're gonna talk more about Mike Tomlin.

661
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Speaker 6: I love Mike Tomlin because what he said about what

662
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 6: the Browns did with Joe Flacco is not inaccurate. We'll

663
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 6: spend a few minutes on that. I believe in the Bearcats.

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Speaker 6: Now that's not me being a homer, but I believe

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Speaker 6: in the Bearcats. Last year, you see was five and

666
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Speaker 6: two and then fell apart. I do not think that's

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00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 6: gonna happen this season. For one simple reason. You'll hear

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Speaker 6: Jamar Chase, You'll hear Joe Flacco. I think some are

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Speaker 6: making a bigger deal than they need to out of

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Speaker 6: Jamar Chase changing a play. Paul Danner Junior is gonna

671
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Speaker 6: join us at four o'clock. He can't be here in

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Speaker 6: person because the weird week, this is their big heavy

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Speaker 6: work day, but he's still gonna check in at to

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Speaker 6: four h five. Our guy, Sean so I had stats

675
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Speaker 6: and scheme newsletter, loved talking ball with him at five twenty.

676
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Speaker 6: And I'm going to tell you what you should say

677
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Speaker 6: to the next person who tells you that college football

678
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Speaker 6: and college sports are broken.

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00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: James Franklin got fired, and I was hoping he would

680
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Speaker 2: be the head coach at Penn State from now until

681
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Speaker 2: the end of time. What did you make of the

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Speaker 2: firing of James Franklin.

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Speaker 6: Well, it sort of felt like when they lost to Northwestern,

684
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Speaker 6: Like I mean, was audible on TV. They were chanting fire.

685
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Speaker 3: Franklin felt like it was inevitable.

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Speaker 6: I think that job's interesting, right because he did a

687
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 6: good job there, you know, but folks forget like that

688
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 6: program was given a death penalty of sorts in the

689
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Speaker 6: aftermath of the Joe Paterno issue. They thought they had

690
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Speaker 6: their guy with Bill O'Brien. Program was kind of left

691
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Speaker 6: for dead. But the Big Ten is bigger. The Big

692
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 6: Ten is tougher. Ohio State's not going anywhere, Michigan's not

693
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Speaker 6: going anywhere, Oregon's not going anywhere. At the same time,

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Speaker 6: I would imagine they have very deep pockets. I just

695
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Speaker 6: think that that gig is is interesting. I think it's

696
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Speaker 6: going to be really interesting to see how and when

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Speaker 6: James Franklin resurfaces, because in any in any like relaxed

698
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 6: media setting I've seen him in it's pretty good. Now

699
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 6: in media settings where he's you know, kind of in

700
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 6: season or being asked to explain things happening with this program,

701
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 6: he's a little bit of a cry baby. I think

702
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Speaker 6: it's going to be interesting to see if he's one

703
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Speaker 6: of these guys who uses the media to kind of

704
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Speaker 6: rehabilitate his reputation a little bit and make people forget

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Speaker 6: how it ended at at Penn State.

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Speaker 2: And he also has, if I'm not mistaken, a clause

707
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Speaker 2: in in that buyout that basically says he has to

708
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: apply for a job, whether that be in coaching or

709
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Speaker 2: in the media, which I think is an interesting noe.

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Speaker 6: Why I would I would like print out applications and

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00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 6: just apply, yeah, and and and then make sure they

712
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Speaker 6: saw it. But then tell the person I'm giving the

713
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Speaker 6: application to, like, hey, can you just put this at

714
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Speaker 6: the bottom of the pile.

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Speaker 4: Making forty dollars?

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Speaker 2: Do you think Brian Callahan will be applying to be

717
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Speaker 2: an offensive assistant for the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 6: Hugh Jackson two point zero right. I talked about this

719
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Speaker 6: with Rappin yesterday. I think there's some validity to that.

720
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Speaker 6: And I look at that two different ways. One is,

721
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Speaker 6: you can't have enough smart people in the building, and

722
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Speaker 6: I think when it comes to quarterbacks and offensive football,

723
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Speaker 6: Brian Callahan is probably a pretty smart guy. But if

724
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Speaker 6: the key to a turnaround is hiring Brian Callahan, then

725
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Speaker 6: shouldn't he just be the head coach we need? Cali

726
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Speaker 6: back well, okay, well then what do we have all

727
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 6: these other dudes for.

728
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: What do we have Zach Taylor, for Tiger Woods is

729
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 2: having another surgery, this time on his back.

730
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Speaker 3: Will he ever play professionally again?

731
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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 6: And I don't want him to. I don't want to

733
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Speaker 6: watch Tiger Woods stumbling around shooting in eighty three and

734
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 6: missing the cut. Like I don't love watching goat like

735
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 6: struggle to compete. I'm especially for somebody like that who

736
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 6: brought so many of us to the sport, For a

737
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 6: guy who was so good, so dominant, so era defining,

738
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Speaker 6: so sport defining, watching him recently hasn't been enjoyable at all.

739
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Speaker 6: Watching him struggle to make cuts in tournaments, There's no

740
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Speaker 6: fun in that to me. Like twenty I said this

741
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Speaker 6: at the time, the twenty nineteen, I was hoping that

742
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Speaker 6: would be his walk off. You know what, I came

743
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Speaker 6: back in ten years, I think ten years, nine years

744
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Speaker 6: after my last major, I won the Masters. Yeah, I

745
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 6: was hoping that would be the walk off because it's

746
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 6: a cool story. The last six years, because of his

747
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 6: health and because of his age, I don't get excited

748
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Speaker 6: when I see that he's in the field of a

749
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 6: major I go, Okay, if I want to see him,

750
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Speaker 6: I better watch on Thursday or Friday. And what I do,

751
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Speaker 6: that's not Tiger Woods. I don't love watching dudes who

752
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 6: are the greatest of all time. Look, they all like

753
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 6: everybody's skill set declines. It's one thing to have your

754
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 6: skill set decline, it's something else to just not be competitive.

755
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Speaker 6: And I don't think Tiger Woods on a regular basis

756
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Speaker 6: can be competitive. So I don't want to watch.

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Speaker 3: That very quickly. What do you think about Monday night

758
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Speaker 3: football doubleheaders?

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Speaker 6: I don't know. Like last night was cool. There were

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Speaker 6: two LCS games on. One was a blowout. There were

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Speaker 6: two Monday night football games on. They were both pretty good.

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Speaker 6: To me, it depends on the quality of the games.

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Speaker 6: And I think most of the time when we've had

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Speaker 6: double headers, one of the games and sometimes both haven't

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Speaker 6: been very good. But like last night, that was I

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Speaker 6: enjoyed that I enjoyed watching. I didn't pay as much

767
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 6: attention to Seattle Toronto because it got out of hand,

768
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Speaker 6: But the National League Championship Series game was awesome, and

769
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Speaker 6: the two NFL games were pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Chicago and Washington was really fun game.

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Speaker 6: Not opposed to it I wish that would have staggered

772
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Speaker 6: them a little bit more, but you know, neither was

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Speaker 6: played on the West Coast, so I guess you're not

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Speaker 6: going to do that. I'm not opposed, but I think

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Speaker 6: we sour on them when the games just simply aren't

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00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 6: that good.

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Speaker 3: Fair enough.

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Speaker 2: Moeggar coming up this afternoon, Oakley Greens. Mo Thank you

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Speaker 2: all right, man.

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Speaker 6: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: That is Moegar. The Moegger Radio Show is next from

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Speaker 2: three to six. He is live over at Oakley Greens.

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Speaker 2: Go check him out. Meanwhile, I'll be back here tomorrow

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Speaker 2: starting at noon for the regularly scheduled Sincy three sixty

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Speaker 2: from noon to three. Thanks so much for listening. Back

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Speaker 2: at it tomorrow. Moe is next on ESPN fifteen thirty