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Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI A six on demand.

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Speaker 2: Mike, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.

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Speaker 3: Hello, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm well, Mike. How can I help you?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: There's two questions. I know Biblically, to be absent from.

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Speaker 4: The body is to be in the presence of the Lord.

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Speaker 4: Once we passed away Christians and believers, he accepts us

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Speaker 4: if anything, through grace, that we accepting to heaven. Two

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Speaker 4: questions going back from day one on New Year calendars,

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Speaker 4: going back to follow thirteen, fourteen hundred and all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: Millions and billions and billions of people.

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Speaker 4: Have passed away and died.

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Speaker 3: And number one isn't heaven getting elett bit crowded up

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Speaker 3: there like a four or.

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Speaker 4: Five on a Friday night.

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Speaker 3: And then number two.

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Speaker 4: Reading a lot of it.

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Speaker 3: Maybe hearsay. I don't know, George Nori, he has special

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Speaker 3: people talking. But I've heard a lot that once you

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Speaker 3: pass away, we go into a spiritual worm where we

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Speaker 3: go through a learning process or a period of time.

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Speaker 3: I heard some say that it's up to the soul

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Speaker 3: of spirit if we want to come back into different

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Speaker 3: body and go through this whole thing again, or we

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Speaker 3: can just stay up in heaven.

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Speaker 4: It says that most.

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Speaker 3: People prefer to come back, and then they said, you

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Speaker 3: do come back, you don't remember what you did before.

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Speaker 3: You know, once around, there's enough this life right now,

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Speaker 3: I'm ready and I'm done. I don't want to go

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Speaker 3: through the s getting food.

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Speaker 5: Will remember.

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Speaker 3: Your view on both of those places.

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Speaker 6: Okay, First of all, there's room for ten more people

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Speaker 6: in heaven. I'm just kidding. That would be horrible. No,

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Speaker 6: there's plenty of room. Heaven does not have the walls

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Speaker 6: and the restraints of time and space the way you

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Speaker 6: think of them. Here there is no limitation. God didn't

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Speaker 6: make it, and in say, oh my gosh, I invited

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Speaker 6: all these people. I didn't think they were all going

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Speaker 6: to make it. It's not a situation like that. So

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Speaker 6: no worries there. There is there is no limit to

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Speaker 6: where somebody will be left out that believes.

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Speaker 3: But isn't it I mean, but if there are all

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Speaker 3: these people and not people, I say, but souls and

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Speaker 3: spirits going around? And haven't I know the soul in

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Speaker 3: spirits like many skill as far as a waiting of

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Speaker 7: But still isn't it does not It does not take

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Speaker 7: up space you're applying human restrictions and attributes of this

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Speaker 7: world to the next, and there is none at a time.

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Speaker 6: There's no time continuum, there's no spatial concerns. It is

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Speaker 6: not the same way in the same sense at all,

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Speaker 6: in any shape for it.

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Speaker 3: So there could be six hundred billion people, it wouldn't

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Speaker 3: matter right now, and Christ than God would still be

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Speaker 3: in control.

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Speaker 4: Over all of that.

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Speaker 2: Yep, wouldn't matter.

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Speaker 3: That's what was going on on earth.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't matter, doesn't There is no

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Speaker 6: limitations there now. As far as the second.

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Speaker 3: Question, and before your dress side person, I appreciate card

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Speaker 3: I do have a very brief, brief third question about

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Speaker 3: the healing practices of evangelists.

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Speaker 4: It's very brief.

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Speaker 3: If I may ask to have to answer this other.

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Speaker 2: Question, sure, sure, Okay, see.

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Speaker 3: After being reborn, not being able to remember going through

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Speaker 3: a learning.

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Speaker 6: Podcast that's not Christianity that you you had quoted some

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Speaker 6: verses earlier in Corinthians and in Hebrews. You loosely paraphrase

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Speaker 6: them about uh in Corinthians about is to be absent

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Speaker 6: from the body is to be present with the Lord.

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Speaker 6: But it also says in Hebrews that you're it's appointed

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Speaker 6: for men to die once and then the judgment. So

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Speaker 6: there is no there's no place for what is referred

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Speaker 6: to as the sumsorrow, that cycle of life. There is

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Speaker 6: no place for reincarnation. Reincarnation was never in scripture. Uh,

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Speaker 6: there's no place for it. It doesn't fit and uh

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Speaker 6: and and so that doesn't make sense with Christianity.

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Speaker 3: Even though George no, I know, he's a little not

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Speaker 3: out there body, he does have people that he talks

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Speaker 3: on your net. So it's basically this is it. Once

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Speaker 3: we're done, that's it.

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Speaker 6: George Nori is a lovely man, a very smart man,

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Speaker 6: and he does have very interesting guests on Coast to

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Speaker 6: Coast AM. But but his his job and his focus

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Speaker 6: is not the same as the focus of the show.

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Speaker 6: So so he's looking at things from a broader spectrum

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Speaker 6: than this. This program is we're very focused on the

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Speaker 6: Christian Judeo Christian presupposition and the Christian theology and specifics,

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Speaker 6: so we obviously have a different point and when it

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Speaker 6: comes to that, So in this particular case, there is

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Speaker 6: nothing in scripture that allows for that reincarnation and there's

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Speaker 6: no need for it. Now there can be those that

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Speaker 6: argue our Catholic brothers and sisters argue that there is

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Speaker 6: a purgatory, but there's different but there's different beliefs in

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Speaker 6: that that has changed throughout the years as well as

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Speaker 6: to what that means and what's taking place. But as

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Speaker 6: far as mainstream Christianity or Protestantism, they differ. So mainstream Christianity,

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Speaker 6: do you put Catholicism and protestant in that same basket

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Speaker 6: they're going to They're going to differ. So keep that

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Speaker 6: in mind. There is differences very quickly so we can

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Speaker 6: make sure that we're fair to everyone else. You had

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Speaker 6: one more question you wanted to ask, Yes, just very

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Speaker 6: very quick.

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Speaker 3: Known evangelist Katherine Coleman probably most probably known other a

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Speaker 3: local evangelists with the healing powers. I went to a

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Speaker 3: Catholic church, growing up on stage for praying everything. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they didn't even touch me yet I felt at people,

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Speaker 3: my wife and other friends. They said he was pred

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Speaker 3: anyone near me and I just supposedly felt under the

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Speaker 3: spirit other places where I went up, actually felt this

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Speaker 3: presence for you just I mean it's like just falling backwards.

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Speaker 3: How what is that manifest and are these really true?

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Speaker 3: Of I want to say, I don't want to say heals,

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Speaker 3: but the presence of falling under what they call falling

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Speaker 3: in the spirit. I don't get that. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: get it, But how's that explained?

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Speaker 5: That?

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Speaker 6: It depends because and this is not specifically speaking about

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Speaker 6: anyone who refers to themselves as a faith healer.

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Speaker 2: A lot of that is garbage.

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Speaker 6: A lot of it ties into theatrics and whatnot and

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Speaker 6: psychology that takes place during a group experience like that.

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Speaker 6: That doesn't mean that it can't take place. Of course,

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Speaker 6: there are gifts of the spirit that do take place,

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Speaker 6: and there are healings that could take place to this day.

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Speaker 2: But that is God's will, not the will of an

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Speaker 2: individual or their ability. God will speak through somebody like

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Speaker 2: a prophet, and God will heal through somebody like a healer,

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Speaker 2: but it's not done in the theatrical way the way

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Speaker 2: it often is betrayed in Christianity. Across the board, there

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Speaker 2: are many of those that act as if they are

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Speaker 2: faith healers, and really it's amount of theatrics and people

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Speaker 2: get caught up in something the same way you can

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Speaker 2: watch a movie that you know is absolutely fake that

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Speaker 2: it is actors that you've seen many times before. You

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Speaker 2: could start to cry or get angry or be thrilled

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Speaker 2: by the outcome, because emotionally, you're having experience with those

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Speaker 2: other people in the theater while watching something. So you

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Speaker 2: have to be careful as to what your experience is.

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Speaker 2: Your experience should always be lining up with scripture and

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Speaker 2: the things of God, and it should never be to

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Speaker 2: the glory of an individual other than God. You shouldn't

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Speaker 2: have to pay for such a thing.

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Speaker 6: These types of things should be thought of before you

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Speaker 6: go and experience on things, because they can be quite

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Speaker 6: emotional and you can catch you up in that kind

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Speaker 6: of overall attitude and excitement, and you can think that

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Speaker 6: it's spiritual when it's just psychological. Something to think about, brother,

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Speaker 6: and not be lost in that. Trisha, Welcome to the

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Speaker 6: Jesus Christow.

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Speaker 8: Hi, Jesus Hi.

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Speaker 2: How can I help you?

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Speaker 8: Well, my husband and I have been together for twenty

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Speaker 8: five years since we're a seen and we had ten

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Speaker 8: years ago we had creamy twins and they had a

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Speaker 8: lot of health problems, but you know, we worked through it.

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Speaker 8: And I'm a real nervous person and through this whole

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Speaker 8: thing with the twins. There was a lot of life

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Speaker 8: and death issues as far as like open heart surgeries

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Speaker 8: getting bt or my kids were healthy and stuff. But

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Speaker 8: then my husband got diagnosed with cancer, and ever since then,

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I can't I can't come to terms with the fact

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Speaker 8: that I feel like everything that I had hoped for

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Speaker 5: That it's just not ever going to be the same now,

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Speaker 5: and I'm always here. I see almost everything now like

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Speaker 5: I'm petrified even if my kids get a cold, that

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Speaker 5: they're going.

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Speaker 6: To die, And like Tricia, that that's no way to

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Speaker 6: live your expectations. Expectations really can be the demon of

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Speaker 6: everything to It's good to have hopes, it's good to

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Speaker 6: have desires, but if you get to a place where

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Speaker 6: where those overshadow everything else, Tricia, and your life becomes

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Speaker 6: this drawing or cartoon of what you expect, you will

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Speaker 6: never appreciate and see what you have in front of you.

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Speaker 6: And that's a huge concern of mine. Don't get lost

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Speaker 6: in that, Tricia. I know that you're going through pain.

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Speaker 6: I know that you have problems, and there are things

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Speaker 6: that you can tackle, but if you start to try

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Speaker 6: be a problem that you will lose sight of the

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Speaker 6: preciousness of the life that you have and the people

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Speaker 6: that are in it don't lose sight of that, not

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Speaker 6: for some hope, some kind of make believe this is

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Speaker 6: what I thought I was going to have.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy what you do have. Nancy, Welcome to the Jesus

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Speaker 10: Hi, Jesus, I have a question. I am looking for

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Speaker 10: verses about the age of accountability.

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Speaker 6: There aren't really any if you're looking about something specifically

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Speaker 6: talking about the age of accountability. It's more theorized by

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Speaker 6: most and some many don't believe that it exists at all.

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Speaker 2: But religiously people.

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Speaker 6: Use them or theologically people use that term usually to

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Speaker 6: say there's different schools of thought. Some of them will say, well,

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Speaker 6: a child will automatically go to Heaven if they're below

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Speaker 6: a certain age or the age of accountability, which really

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Speaker 6: is a sliding scale to begin with, because there are

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Speaker 6: children at very young ages that understand and comprehend many things,

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Speaker 6: and then there are others that get older and maybe

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Speaker 6: slightly slower and don't understand things. There are religious traditions

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Speaker 6: that say that age of accountability is twelve or thirteen

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Speaker 6: because they reference that my first readings in scripture come

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Speaker 6: will make kind of arbitrary lines saying, well, it has

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Speaker 6: to be this, has to be that. But as far

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Speaker 6: as scripture specifically saying an age of accountability, no, But

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Speaker 6: there is talk that people will come to the knowledge

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Speaker 6: of the difference, the difference between sweet and bitter, and

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Speaker 6: some people say, well, that may be alluding to the

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Speaker 6: concept of truth versus that which is false, But no

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Speaker 6: one verse that you're going to come across. That's why

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Speaker 1: Hi Jesus. When I was eight years old, I was

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Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you first, I'm very proud of you

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Speaker 2: But in a.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that just I just couldn't believe it. And it's

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Speaker 6: The other gives the enemy total Foothold Dale, Welcome to

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Speaker 9: Hello Jesus Hi Dale. I'm first time caller I have

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Speaker 2: Well, welcome, How can I help you?

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Speaker 9: I was married to who to whom I perceived as

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Speaker 9: Questions, Yeah, it's been divorced. She she she had, she

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Speaker 9: How does someone well well, I still have yet to know.

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Speaker 2: You're still there, Yes, I am, okay. So you said that.

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Speaker 6: This woman you felt was your soulmate, and you get

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Speaker 9: Yeah, she she she married the man that she was

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Speaker 9: Seems that all I do is I live for I

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Speaker 9: see my children every two weeks. That's what you know.

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Speaker 9: They that's that's what they said that I mean, that's

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Speaker 9: all I could do.

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Speaker 2: Dale, Do you drink it?

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Speaker 9: All I did?

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Speaker 1: I did?

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Speaker 6: But you're cleaning sober now? Excuse me, you're cleaning sober now?

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Speaker 9: Not quite?

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Speaker 2: Not quite? And what does not quite mean?

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Speaker 9: There are times when I when I would do anything

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Speaker 9: to kill the pang.

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Speaker 6: You know that that's not productive and it won't help

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Speaker 6: you see those children?

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Speaker 9: Absolutely absolutely, And I am a Christian and but and

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Speaker 9: I know that that's not the right thing.

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Speaker 2: Are you? Are you drinking today at all?

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Speaker 9: No? I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Good, that's a good.

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Speaker 6: Start, So, Dale, when when it comes to relationships, you

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Speaker 6: get two people, obviously you both have a say, and

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Speaker 6: you both can take the You know, you can either

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Speaker 6: positively move in one direction together or you can move

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Speaker 6: in two different directions. Chances are if we parsed your

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Speaker 6: whole relationship, when we looked back there was a time

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Speaker 6: when you saw signs of maybe she not being the

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Speaker 6: right one. Then people bring children into the equation all

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Speaker 6: of that.

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Speaker 2: We don't have time for that.

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Speaker 6: But what I do want to tell you is that

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Speaker 6: if you live in the bowl of just staring at

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Speaker 6: that circumstance she's married and she's moved on, you won't

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Speaker 6: be able to dig yourself out at all. If you

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Speaker 6: get to a place where you're bettering yourself, you're not

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Speaker 6: you know, getting into the hoots, you're not drinking, you're

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Speaker 6: being productive, and you're finding ways to I would encourage

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Speaker 6: you to help others, And there's programs for people that

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Speaker 6: have been cheated on and things like that that you

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Speaker 6: can go into and talk and find out the things

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Speaker 6: that people have gone through and how they've pushed themselves

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Speaker 6: through it. Prayer and church and all these things play

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Speaker 6: a part of all this. Then you can move forward

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Speaker 6: yourself and find that happiness or a partner in life.

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Speaker 6: But if you're going to focus on the past, on

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Speaker 6: the program a lot of times, and I know pain

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Speaker 6: is difficult to get through, but there's a limit. There's

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Speaker 6: a certain amount of pain that comes from the experience,

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Speaker 6: and then the rest is you putting it on yourself.

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Speaker 6: And I like in the past to driving and when

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Speaker 6: you're driving, you have a rearview mirror, but you use

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Speaker 6: the rearview mirror only to move forward right, to change lanes,

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Speaker 6: to make sure that you're driving safely. But you would

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Speaker 6: never drive staring in the rear view mirror, wouldn't you,

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Speaker 6: Because if you if you just stared at the rearview mirror,

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Speaker 6: you'd crash right absolutely, And that's what you're doing right now.

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Speaker 6: You're driving staring in the rearview mirror.

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Speaker 9: So and I don't want to I want to move forward,

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Speaker 9: I really do.

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Speaker 6: So today you need you need to start and actually

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Speaker 6: have a process, whether it's setting up time to go

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Speaker 6: to church and be constructive there. You need to find

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Speaker 6: a charity or something where you can put your time

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Speaker 6: into helping others, not wallowing in your own pain. And

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Speaker 6: you need to dedicate yourself to those things and continue

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Speaker 6: to build up your wants and desires in life and

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Speaker 6: the things that make you you dale so that you'll

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Speaker 6: be attractive to somebody. But somebody who's wallowing, who's boozing

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Speaker 6: it up, is not going to be attractive to any woman.

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Speaker 6: That's gonna be good for you. You gotta clean yourself up.

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Speaker 6: Your daddy and you're a child to God, and you

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Speaker 6: got to clean yourself up.

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Speaker 2: And then women will come.

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Speaker 6: And you'll build your life and fulfill it by yourself,

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Speaker 6: and then you'll be ready for another partner. But to

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Speaker 6: sit in the pain isn't gonna help. And that's the

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Speaker 6: best I can tell you. It's about you applying that now.

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