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Speaker 1: Free agency to the draft and everything in between. We've

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Speaker 1: got the Bengals off season covered on ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 1: the official home of the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: That's right, four minutes after four o'clock. This is ESBN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Im Oeger. We've We've had a lot happen

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Speaker 2: so far. In the first hour of the show, the

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Speaker 2: NFL Combine is happening in Indianapolis. Paul Danner Junior has

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Speaker 2: been there covering the combine and the Bengals Fortheathletic dot

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Speaker 2: Com and obviously for the Growler podcast. He is cranking

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Speaker 2: out content. Typically Paul joins us in studio on Tuesdays,

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Speaker 2: but a he's been in Indie b I wasn't here yesterday,

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Speaker 2: but we needed a Paul fix and so here that

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Speaker 2: might be what we call the segment now, a Paul fix.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. How's the combine.

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Speaker 4: It's lovely, mo, it's a great time. I'm enjoying myself.

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Speaker 4: It's it's been a little cold, but the takes have

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Speaker 4: been hot. Was one very good? Who's had the hottest one?

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Speaker 4: What's been the hottest take so far?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't The hottest take is probably our

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Speaker 4: good friend James or trying to shove running back down

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Speaker 2: But that's all right, Oh boy, and the draft is

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Speaker 2: still two months away. I it's gonna be It's gonna

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Speaker 2: be fun. Did either of the Bengals coordinators today say

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Actually I thought there was some interesting stuff.

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Speaker 4: I feel like we're starting to get a little bit

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Speaker 4: clearer view from Al Golden on what their approach is

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Speaker 4: some questions around some of these guys. Who do they

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Speaker 4: view as strong enough pieces to keep? And then there's

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Speaker 4: a there's a fun phrase, you like corporate synergistics?

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Speaker 4: So the phrase, the corporate catchphrase this week has been

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Speaker 5: Do you like force multipliers?

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what that means? What's a force multiplier?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's what I'm here for, MO to tell you

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Speaker 4: just that. So they're looking for players that can take

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Speaker 4: because there's a recognition of you know, we've talked a

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Speaker 4: You know, they just didn't have enough of those guys.

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Speaker 4: But they're looking for that in specific in ways that

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Speaker 4: The interesting part at linebacker, I know you're invested in

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Speaker 7: No, there is a hey, he was a warrior last

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Speaker 4: And so that's they're looking for players and free agency

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Speaker 5: That they believe are are part of their future.

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Speaker 3: Should I be unsurprised that they love Jordan Battle?

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Speaker 5: I don't you be whatever you want to be. I'm

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Speaker 4: Sometimes sometimes we get the over the top praise, and

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's a tactic they're taking to

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Speaker 5: Truly a like, we really love this guy.

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Speaker 4: I think there's probably a middle ground in that that

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Speaker 4: I think in this system you can you can see

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Speaker 2: There are different levels of love. So let me just

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Speaker 4: No Caleb Downs, No, that would I don't think that

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Speaker 4: They would just do what everybody has said you would

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Speaker 4: and and dal Golden talked about how you know he says,

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Speaker 5: I love toys. I would love that toy. It would

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Speaker 4: To have and I mean very embracing, and you could

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Speaker 2: Is force multiplier the sort of thing that people are

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Speaker 4: I'm hoping to properly make fun of it in my

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Speaker 4: pick up some of Mike you have. Do you have

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Speaker 4: any favorite corporate jargon words because I'm trying to drop

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Speaker 4: them in intermittently throughout my story. Uh, you know, I've

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Speaker 4: got putting a pin in. Yeah, it's a big one.

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Speaker 4: Synergy is a big.

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Speaker 5: Les, ideation, let's take this offline.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, trying to kind of casually drop those in there,

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Speaker 2: Here's I think my current favorite one. When when corporations

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Speaker 2: that's a big one in the corporate world nowadays. Paul

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Speaker 5: I think you're getting ahead of yourself a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I sound it sounded like a team that's in negotiation,

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Speaker 4: the line of talking about how he brings value to us,

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Speaker 5: We were the fit for him.

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Speaker 4: This kind of reminding everyone this is a guy that

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Speaker 5: I think they're just trying to figure out what that

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Speaker 2: Your night is set. Let's see here, Bob and Bowling Green.

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Speaker 2: You're on ESPN fifteen thirty. Bob, good afternoon. How are you?

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Speaker 10: Oh, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing fine, man, I'm doing extraordinarily well this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Bob. What's on your mind?

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Speaker 6: Well? I was calling to report a little dust up

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Speaker 3: It sounds like it could have been really bad for both.

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Speaker 6: But you know, here's the weird part about that. Most

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Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: All right, Well see you.

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Speaker 2: I watched the gold medal hockey game on Saturday morning.

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Speaker 2: Let's come up with reasons to be mad at other

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get to us sports headlines here a moment

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Speaker 2: twenty five away from five o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Moeger,

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening today. More of your phone calls

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Speaker 2: are coming up, and we'll go back to the combine

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Speaker 2: and talk with our friend Lindsey Rhoads from sumersports dot com.

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Speaker 2: Typically on this show on Tuesdays, we talk about sports

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Speaker 2: and the Law, Sports and legal matters with attorney Stuart W.

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Speaker 2: Penrose from the Manila Law Group. You just heard a

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Speaker 2: few seconds ago. I was not here yesterday, but I

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Speaker 2: wanted to have our conversation, so I asked Stuart, can

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Speaker 2: we carve out some time, maybe on Wednesday instead of Tuesday?

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Speaker 2: And he was, as one might expect, extraordinarily accommodating. And

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Speaker 2: so here we are, Stuart. How are we doing?

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Speaker 10: I'm doing good?

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Speaker 7: Mo?

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Speaker 10: How about you?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing well.

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Speaker 2: I have a feeling you and I are going to

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Speaker 2: spend a lot of time talking about Major League Baseball

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Speaker 2: in their labor situation, which we've discussed already. The entire

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six season is going to occur against the

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Speaker 2: backdrop of a workstoppage, a lockout in all likelihood that

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Speaker 2: will happen once the current collective bargaining agreement with the

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Speaker 2: players expires. This has been complicated because the Major League

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Speaker 2: Baseball Players Association has seen a shake up in leadership

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Speaker 2: because of a scandal involving the guy that used to

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Speaker 2: run the MLBPA, and so now there's been a leadership change.

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Speaker 2: What could something like this mean for the upcoming negotiations?

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Speaker 11: Well, Mo, it's it's a kind to changing your quarterback

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Speaker 11: before the Super Bowl. You know, Tony Park's been the

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Speaker 11: leader of the MLBPA.

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Speaker 5: For for a long time.

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Speaker 11: They know that the owners know who they're dealing with,

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Speaker 11: for better or worse, kind of the devil, you know,

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Speaker 11: versus the devil you don't in a way, so you

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Speaker 11: know who's representing each party as a big sty in

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Speaker 11: setting the tone, and you know how you go about.

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Speaker 10: How aggressive you are, how cooperative you are.

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Speaker 11: And right now it's an unknown with the players Association.

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Speaker 11: Who's going to run it and what kind of way

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Speaker 11: is that new person going to run it?

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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, you're you're right. It's it's a good

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Speaker 3: way of putting it.

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Speaker 2: I guess I would wonder if if the union's overall

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Speaker 2: position as it relates to the biggest issue in the sport,

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Speaker 2: which is so far the lack of a salary cap,

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Speaker 2: like that's that's been such a hard line stance that

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Speaker 2: I would wonder, as silly as this may sound, does

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Speaker 2: it really matter who the head negotiator is if their

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Speaker 2: stance has been unchanged for decades and is likely to

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Speaker 2: unchange no matter what.

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Speaker 11: Well, I mean, they're only going to appoint somebody who

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Speaker 11: they who they want to who they choose. So I'm

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Speaker 11: certain they're going to point someone that's going to represent

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Speaker 11: the interest that they want. So no, I don't think

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Speaker 11: it's going to change in that regard, but certainly the

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Speaker 11: type of leadership that person has and how dynamic they are,

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Speaker 11: it can change. The tone, can change how things are

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Speaker 11: done and uh and in many ways what is done

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Speaker 11: and how long it takes.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna be talking about this a ton as

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Speaker 2: the season unfolds, because it feels like a lockout is

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Speaker 2: almost unavoidable. Uh, can you tell me about this story

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Speaker 2: involving Yeah, well, here's here's a question though, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: you know they're they're gonna talk once the lockout starts,

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Speaker 2: for sure. I guess I would wonder, like, why why

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Speaker 2: can't the negotiations happen during the season. It feels like

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Speaker 2: every time we have one of these, they really don't

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Speaker 2: get the ball rolling on actual discussions about a new

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Speaker 2: labor agreement until the current one expires.

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Speaker 11: Sure, deadlines bring a lot of bring a lot of

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Speaker 11: people to bring people to the table and create pressure

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Speaker 11: to him or something done. And sometimes people don't feel

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Speaker 11: the need to back off of their positions until they

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Speaker 11: see uh, until they see the new clear option about

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Speaker 11: to unfold. I think it's very natural in any type

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Speaker 11: of negotiation.

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Speaker 2: H I have a new rooting interest. I have a

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Speaker 2: new rooting interest. I want to switch gears. I have

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Speaker 2: a new rooting interest. I root against Patrick Mahomes. I

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Speaker 2: wrote against the Kansas City Chiefs. I hate to root

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Speaker 2: against Travis Kelcey because he played for the Bearcats, but

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Speaker 2: I'm sort of like I'm It's how I'm wired now

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Speaker 2: to root against. So they're being sued. They're being sued

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Speaker 2: along with people they are in business with, over the

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Speaker 2: name of a steakhouse they've opened in Kansas City fifteen

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Speaker 2: eighty seven because I guess there's a sneaker brand fifteen

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Speaker 2: eighty seven, and they're saying, look, we already had that

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Speaker 2: four digit number as our brand, so you can't use

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Speaker 2: it for your steakhouse. How do we expect this to unfold?

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Speaker 11: Well, you know, there's layers of insurance to all of this.

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Speaker 11: I mean, there are celebrity names that are put on

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Speaker 11: the top and you know it sounds sexy and you know,

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Speaker 11: headline grabbing. When you have Travis kelce Patrick Mahomes being sued,

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Speaker 11: but you know, in all likelihood, you know, they certainly

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Speaker 11: aren't involved in the daily operations in such a business.

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Speaker 11: You know, they rely on their partners and management teams

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Speaker 11: and there's several layers of insurance that are ultimately going.

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Speaker 10: To cover this.

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Speaker 11: So you know, they are names. They're outage of the

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Speaker 11: lawsuits certainly, and they have to because they're owners, but

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Speaker 11: they're unlikely the main players in this.

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Speaker 3: Quite frankly, this might be a stupid question.

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Speaker 2: That's why I have you on because you're an expert,

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Speaker 2: isn't it that isn't it easy for one to make

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Speaker 2: the distinction between a sneaker brand and a place where

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Speaker 2: you can buy a steak.

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Speaker 11: You would think you would think they're going to have

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Speaker 11: the other plane if they have to prove their damages.

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Speaker 11: Certainly a steakhouse and a sneaker brand are two very

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Speaker 11: different things.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 10: But you saw with the with the Utah hockey team.

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Speaker 11: You know they wanted to go with the name YETI,

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Speaker 11: and you know YETI coolers wouldn't wouldn't let him have it,

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Speaker 11: and you know made they uh, you know, made a

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Speaker 11: big stick about their trademark. You know, probably a very

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Speaker 11: misbranding opportunity, quite.

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Speaker 10: Frankly, but you know you've seen things akin to that.

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Speaker 2: Certainly, our legal expert from the Manila Law Group, attorney

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Speaker 2: Stewart W. Penroses with us a day later than usual.

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Speaker 2: One more so, there's this racial discrimination suit being brought

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Speaker 2: on by some some African American coaches against the National

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Speaker 2: Football League, and the coaches include Brian Flores, Steve Wilkson,

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Speaker 2: Ray Horton. Uh, it's a it's a discrimination lawsuit. There

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Speaker 2: was a ruling in federal court that this suit's going

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Speaker 2: to proceed in an open court rather than a closed

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Speaker 2: door arbitration.

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Speaker 3: I guess for me, I wasn't.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't aware and this is my naivete speaking here

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Speaker 2: that such a thing could be held in a closed

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Speaker 2: door arbitration setting. I just naturally assumed this was going

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Speaker 2: to be in an open court. How often do things

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Speaker 2: like this get decided by arbiters?

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Speaker 5: Quite often.

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Speaker 11: A lot of contracts and a lot of bargaining agreements

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Speaker 11: have have arbitration clauses here, And it sounds like that's

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Speaker 11: what the NFL was trying to, you know, to try

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Speaker 11: and to impose, Hey, we've got an arbitration agreement and

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Speaker 11: the and the court decided otherwise or that h.

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Speaker 10: That it wasn't holding water in this circumstance.

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Speaker 11: But you know, being able to try this in public

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Speaker 11: court versus arbitration is a huge win for the plaintiffs here.

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Speaker 11: It gives them a lot more advantages by making things public.

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Speaker 11: You know, arbitration MOO is a private setting. Uh, there's

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Speaker 11: limited discovery with it. You know, there's no jury. It's

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Speaker 11: very hard to appeal. You know, it really would really

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Speaker 11: benefit the NFL. Uh, you know, in a circumstance like this,

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Speaker 11: whereas if you go to uh, you know, to public court.

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Speaker 10: You know, first off, like.

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Speaker 11: A Jerry trial is public, discovery is broad. You can

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Speaker 11: you can get more evidence, to take more depositions. There's

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Speaker 11: a lot more pressure that they could put on the

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Speaker 11: on the defense. You know, what comes out in discovery.

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Speaker 11: You're gonna get owners' emails that come out. You're gonna

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Speaker 11: get different communications, things that they might not want to

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Speaker 11: see the light of day that can now you know,

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Speaker 11: come out because it's going to be in public court

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Speaker 11: versus going to be you know, behind the screen of

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Speaker 11: an arbitration.

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Speaker 10: So it's a big win for the plaintiffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it sounds like it, and you're right.

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Speaker 2: Communication among owners, I would imagine there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: folks working in the NFL or people who own teams

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Speaker 2: who don't want that stuff being brought to light. Awesome insight.

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Speaker 2: As always, we will talk next week, my friend, thanks

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Speaker 2: so much.

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Speaker 10: Thank you though.

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Speaker 2: That's our legal expert, attorney Stewart W. Penrose from the

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Speaker 2: Manila Law Group. You can learn more at Manilolawgroup dot com.

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Speaker 2: Have let's go, Ahead, Mike, mike you're ON espn fifteen. Thirty,

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Speaker 2: mike what's? Up terren's? Good i'm?

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Speaker 3: Good are you? Okay how's? Everything?

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00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 8: Hello adverse reaction to, This, WELL i was trying, That

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Speaker 8: tony show kind of scared me a little, bit but

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Speaker 8: it's better.

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Speaker 3: Now that's all. Right we'll put the show on pause for.

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Speaker 10: You go.

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Speaker 8: AHEAD i know time is, MONEY i.

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Speaker 3: Understand, yeah, yeah, okay you're.

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00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 2: Good all, right go, ahead The flora's. Yours, whatever whatever's

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00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 2: on your, mind go ahead and spill your.

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00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 10: Guts thank, You you're. Welcome you see the cookiest Team

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Speaker 10: i've ever keep in my.

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00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: Life can, You, mike do you have? Me are you

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00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: like like ten feet away from your? Phone we can

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Speaker 2: barely hear.

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00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 8: You, Well i'll tell you how messed UP i. AM i,

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Speaker 8: WALKED i reached across the bed to a, napkin thinking

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Speaker 8: it was my.

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Speaker 2: Phone oh, okay, okay go ahead, now, now go ahead

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00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 2: and tell us what's on your.

705
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 8: Mind, Okay SO i think you, see it's just the

706
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 8: dopiest Team i've seen in a long. Time they JUST

707
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 8: i cannot figure this team out, ever, ever, ever.

708
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: Ever, WELL i think what made last night weird is

709
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: they've defended at a pretty good level all season. Long

710
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 2: so you're thinking even against a really good team Like

711
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: Texas tech with a guy Like Christian, anderson who is

712
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: a first Team All big twelve caliber, player maybe even.

713
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 2: Better you're, thinking if you make your first nine, shots

714
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 2: you will have built a little bit of a. Cushion,

715
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: Now Texas tech may come back and still win the,

716
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: game but you feel, like if you're playing that well,

717
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 2: offensively because of what you've done defensively for most of the,

718
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: season you ought to be able to build a ten to,

719
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: twelve fourteen point. Lead, instead they make their first nine

720
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: shots and they're up by five eight minutes into the.

721
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: Game and SO i think last night, specifically what made

722
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: it frustrating is they operated at a high level, offensively

723
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: which for the most, part they haven't all, season some

724
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: recent examples. Notwithstanding but they didn't. Defend and then as

725
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 2: the game went, on when the offense started to, regress

726
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 2: the rebounding wasn't there and the defense wasn't. There Texas

727
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 2: tech shot fifty four percent and they grabbed nearly half

728
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 2: of their. MISSES i think the problem FOR uc through

729
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 2: it's been twenty eight. Games they've played really well. Recently

730
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: if you look at the four game winning, streaking three

731
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: of those games offensively they played at a really high.

732
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: LEVEL i don't know, though that you have either a

733
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: team that offensively has anything that game in a game

734
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 2: out you can really count. On And i'm still not

735
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: sure you have somebody who can slow down an opposing

736
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: run by just going and getting you a. Bucket that's

737
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 2: been my biggest complaint all season. Long you can go

738
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: on runs against this team and they just don't have

739
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: anybody who offensively is going to be good enough to

740
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: get a bucket to stop them from stop the other

741
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: team from going on a long. Run they don't have

742
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: anybody who can create offense when the half court offense breaks.

743
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: Down that was a problem back in In. November it's

744
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: a glaring weakness that is sunk the. Season in Late, February,

745
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: WELL i couldn't agree.

746
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 10: More that's What i'm. Saying they're kind of a goofy.

747
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 8: TEAM i, HAVE i get, all you, know excited about,

748
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 8: it and then they lay an egg last night with

749
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 8: the other team not having their best.

750
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: Players so, yeah but like, again like losing the game last, Night,

751
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: Okay Texas tech is, Good Christian anderson's, Awesome like that's

752
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: that's a hard game to. Win they were six and

753
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: a half point underdogs for a. Reason the problem is

754
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: needing to win the game last. Night just an, inch you,

755
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: inch you closer to the. Conversation like we've said this

756
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 2: often in recent, years you can't have these games in

757
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 2: Late february carry as much weight as they. Do you,

758
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: know you want to play these games where if you

759
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: lose a game on the road To Texas, tech it

760
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 2: doesn't hurt you at. All it might hurt you in

761
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: the big twelve, standings but it does nothing to affect your. Resume,

762
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: unfortunately they're playing in tough games that in order to

763
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 2: even have a chance to have a, chance they must.

764
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 2: Win there's no shame in Losing Texas. Tech it's a

765
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: problem when you lose To Eastern. Michigan, frankly they shouldn't

766
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: have lost A. Xavier they should have beaten An Okay

767
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: West virginia teams in the team in both games they.

768
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: Played they should have closed out the game AGAINST ucf

769
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: on the. Road if they win some combination of those,

770
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 2: games then you look at last night and you shrug

771
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 2: your shoulders and, Go, okay opportunity, missed but not a huge. Deal,

772
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: instead when you have twelve losses going into that game last,

773
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: night it magnifies the loss and all of the factors

774
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: that went into.

775
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 8: It it's like you, say with the revs can't we

776
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 8: just get a season where The reds or The bearcats

777
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 8: or somebody The bengals where you, know, well we're not you,

778
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 8: know coming towards the end of the.

779
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 10: Season we're, going, well we're.

780
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 8: In we're, good we're, good we.

781
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 10: Don't have to.

782
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 8: Worry you say this all the time about The, reds

783
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 8: and it's true about several of our local, teams and

784
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 8: it just drives us all.

785
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: N it feels like a familiar, story, right we're doing

786
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 2: this constantly with The, bengals where you're playing from. Behind

787
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: you're playing from behind and trying to make up ground

788
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: In november And. December The, REDS i, mean it was

789
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 2: awesome that they did. It they had overcome a six

790
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: game deficit in the last month of the season to

791
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: barely eke into the. Playoffs this year with The, bearcats

792
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: you you're you're having to win games that you're probably

793
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 2: not gonna, win right the majority of the, time you

794
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: play them, again just just to give yourself a chance

795
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: to have a. Chance it's it's a very you're, Right,

796
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: mike it's a very familiar. Theme you're constantly playing catch,

797
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: Up you're constantly trying to make up for earlier season

798
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: losses or earlier season, missteps and it's it's no, way

799
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: it's no way to, live it's no way to operate

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00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: for a sports.

801
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 8: Team, no it's been going on Since Kenyan Martin broke is,

802
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 8: like you, know we just have the worst luck in

803
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 8: a lot of cases. Too, Anyway i'll get off. That

804
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 8: just to clarify things to everybody. Listening i'm sure they already. Know,

805
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 8: yeah spring training has no bearing on the regular season.

806
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 8: Whatsoever it's for the, development it's for old guys trying

807
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 8: to refine certain, characteristics, pictures trying to. Development it has

808
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 8: no bearing whatsoever on regular season records or postseason, records

809
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 8: AND i need no bearing with a very few.

810
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: Exceptions, YEAH i mean the general theme is. Correct.

811
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: NOW i think you can look FOR i think you

812
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: can look for encouraging, signs or you could look for

813
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: things that may suggest outcomes are going to be. Favorable

814
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: and at the same, time you could look for things

815
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: that happened during spring training that might bring up some

816
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: degree of concern about how things are going to. Unfold but,

817
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: yeah every spring training, result whether it's a game or

818
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: an outcome in a, game is to be taken with

819
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 2: a grain of. SALT i, WOULD i, WOULD i would

820
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 2: agree with. That but, look if If matt McLain has

821
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: a good, spring you're going to feel a least a

822
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: little bit better about his chances of having a better.

823
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: Season and if he plays and if he plays, poorly

824
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: you're going to be a little bit concerned about his

825
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: ability to have the sort of season that we're all

826
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: hoping he.

827
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 8: Has and it has to help the players go into

828
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 8: the season with more confidence and stick that chest out

829
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 8: a little bit. More and that's all good. Stuff SO

830
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 8: i just get frustrated WHEN i hear people putting a

831
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 8: little bit too much credence in these games because they're

832
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 8: not full winning and. Losing they're mostly for development and

833
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 8: what have. YOU i got one last? Thing could you?

834
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 9: Love?

835
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 8: Interesting? Right AND i hope That god you haven't heard

836
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 8: this story you, remember, well you probably. Don't there was

837
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 8: a center that got drafted by The bulls in the

838
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 8: right early seventies Named Clifford. Ray he was a six

839
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 8: to ninth, center very good, rebounder backup Guy Poklahoma, Warriors,

840
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 8: yeah out Of oklahoma in nineteen seventy, eight way before

841
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 8: we had cell phones and all that. Stuff they had

842
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 8: an emergency at The Marine world In Redwood, city which

843
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 8: is northern up By Tom brady's, hometown and they needed

844
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 8: somebody with a long. Arm he had three foot nine

845
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 8: inch long, arms not counting his. Hands. Yeah the, team

846
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 8: The warriors staff went.

847
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 10: Out they knew kind of his.

848
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 8: Hamlets they went out and found him at a restaurant

849
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 8: that he frequented in the mornings and, Said, clifford you

850
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 8: got to go with. Us we've got an. Emergency you

851
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 8: got to help. Us they took him out to The Marine.

852
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 8: World did you hear this?

853
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: Story he saved the dolphins.

854
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 8: Life, yeah Doctor. Spock, yeah he stuck his long arm

855
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 8: and pulled that bolt out of that. DOLPHIN i can.

856
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 8: SEE i can't ever get nothing on. You that's WHY

857
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 8: i get frustrated with.

858
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 3: You, Yeah, mike thank.

859
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 2: You, yeah he Saved remember hearing the story because he

860
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: was a LONGTIME nba assistant listening to him talk about

861
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: being brought into save a dolphin's.

862
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: Life, mike thank. You five, O'CLOCK, espn fifteen.

863
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 5: Thirty this IS.

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00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 3: Sportsna I'm Christine.

865
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 12: Leacy cavalier's Guard James harden sustained a right thumb fracture last.

866
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 12: Night he's questionable tonight against The. Bucks met with a

867
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 12: hand specialist does not need surgery at this. Time he'll

868
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 12: undergo further treatment and. Evaluation The cavs already Without Donovan

869
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 12: mitchell And Evan. Mobley, Tonight thunder will be without point

870
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 12: Guard Shay Gilgess alexander a ninth consecutive game against The

871
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 12: pistons tonight due to an abdominal strain seven Thirty eastern

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