1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,680 Speaker 1: She wish just every now and then they turned the 2 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: mics on early. 3 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: Not not in that case. We got to Rick Lewis 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: the studio with this. What was up, Ricky, I'm glad 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: to see that your face is okay? 6 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 3: Uh you referencing that Instagram post? Yes, yeah, from the 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 3: pregame me David Susie in the booth. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: I just I'm not bothered by it. But but why 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: that's all? Like what what what was the thinking behind 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: that face? 11 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: Well, Dave, you know it's. 12 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: This is not about you can't real you can't tell 13 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 3: him the picture. Don't don't lump me into he's got 14 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 3: his finger in my ear. 15 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: Oh please, save. 16 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: Don't tell the truth. Come on, that's that works in 17 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: like middle school. 18 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: You can't. 19 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 2: You can't use that here as adult. You made that face, 20 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: and and now it is the whatever. 21 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: You call me screensaver. 22 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 4: I didn't realize before every game I give her such 23 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 4: a hard time. I'm like, come on, man, I mean 24 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 4: how many we've taken how many pictures? And we got 25 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 4: to take another picture, so of course it is Susie. 26 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 4: So I take the picture. But I didn't realize Rick 27 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 4: had had that face until I see it posted somewhere. 28 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, what do we have here? 29 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: Oh? Man, it was hilarious. 30 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, And then Dave called me on the way home. 31 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 3: Much of the game the tears laughing. They could barely drive. 32 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 3: We were both cracking up. Oh it was hilarious. Hilarious, 33 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: A good laugh if you haven't seen it and you 34 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 3: want a good laugh. 35 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: Yes, it's been scrubbed. No it has not. 36 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: No, a rod scrubbed it. Oh you scrubbed it. I 37 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: don't have, you, vain little bastard. I don't have access 38 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: to scrubbed the picture. I got hold. I showed deal 39 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: my wife and she laughed and then she would you know, 40 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: that probably wouldn't be good to have out there for 41 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: the rest of you. 42 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 43 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: The good news is I have it, okay, Oh, I've 44 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: got a screenshot of it. 45 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: I kept the screenshot. 46 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 4: Seriously, I cannot believe you took I mean, honestly, we 47 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 4: were going to use that next year as the Broncos broadcast. 48 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, in the media, in the media, in the media, 49 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 3: here's the Broncos radio ahead. 50 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: Does it not perfectly encapsulate the hilarious you had? The 51 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: greatest you had the greatest sort of tag for it. 52 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 4: What was that? Uh, oh, you're gonna put me on 53 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 4: the spine out never mind, never mind, never mind. 54 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: I know I want you to say that. I'll tell 55 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: you off the air. But that's what was so funny. Okay, 56 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 3: the tag. You had a great tag for it. 57 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 1: But it's always though. It's not societal friendly. It's not. No, 58 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: not only radio friendly, it's not. 59 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: Even if you said it like driving down the road 60 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: with your face, your family would shun you. 61 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So now I don't want to repeat it, 62 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: but I'll tell you. Is there a PG version of 63 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: it or not? No? No, really no, no, no, no, no, 64 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: no no. Dave is more of my barometer for these. 65 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: Things that if Dave says yeah, no, this would be 66 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: an area that would get get you in trouble. 67 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 4: I'm all for helping you sort of crawl out on 68 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 4: the limb. I mean, because I think, I think as 69 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 4: your radio career continues, you have to every now and 70 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 4: then you've got to say, you know what, I know, 71 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 4: I know how far I can go here. I mean, 72 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 4: I worked with Scott Hastings for twelve years. I learned, 73 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 4: you know, over the course of that twelve year period, 74 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 4: you know, to take it right to the edge and 75 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 4: then maybe stick my toe in the water a little 76 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 4: bit and then pull back exactly so, and it's all. 77 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: You would be in trouble, Ryan, because you're the driver 78 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: of the show. And then you asked me to repeat it, 79 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: and then you no, no, Ryan wouldn't be in trouble. 80 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: You would be in trouble because you repeat it variety 81 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: of the sudden. Well, we might all get canceled, now 82 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 3: we all might not. It would be you they got 83 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: canceled because you said it. 84 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: Why, I'm a little more sad. 85 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: You've never wanted to take a break more than you 86 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 3: do right now in your life. 87 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: Just see what it is right? Well, I yes, that's 88 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: what I really want. 89 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 5: To know that. 90 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: But I've never been more sad to know that we 91 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: scrubbed that photo from social media. 92 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: We have it. 93 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 4: Well, it'll be it'll be posted after practice permission to 94 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 4: do that. No, I don't, I'm in the show. I'm 95 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 4: in the shot. You could talk to. 96 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: My lawyer, my wife deal likes me. It'll be okay. 97 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: Yes, nothing than a good bottle of our tequila couldn't 98 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: fix there. 99 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: You go, all right, So we have. 100 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: All sorts of fun stuff get to get to over 101 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 2: the course of the show. Ian Rapport's gonna join us 102 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: at four o'clock this afternoon. We'll talk to Jack Corgan. 103 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: Uh just for a moment here the Rockies Bill Schmidt, 104 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 2: he's stepping down as general manager. Now we expected, Dave, 105 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: you talked about it quite a bit over the last 106 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 2: several months. That you expect is some kind of change 107 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: would happen for the Rockies. This seems like the first 108 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: step in that process. The one thing that I think 109 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: most Rockies fans that are I guess slightly encouraged about 110 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: is the statement we're going to look outside the organization 111 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: first for the next GM. 112 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 113 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 4: I think this this was a move that had to happen. 114 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 4: When you have I mean, this is a third consecutive 115 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 4: year they've had over one hundred losses. But this, I mean, 116 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:31,679 Speaker 4: this season was you know, it was an all time 117 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 4: bad season, and so in in professional sports, when you 118 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 4: have when you have, I mean, I think there's reasons, 119 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 4: but I think ultimately you're judge on how many games 120 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: you win and lose. Most professional organizations at least are 121 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 4: and I think. 122 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: This was this was the right move. 123 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 4: I like Bill personally, I've always he's always been great, 124 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 4: coming on the show. He's been he's been a good dude, 125 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 4: I think. But I think this had to happen, and 126 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 4: that's what happens again in professional sports. If you're the 127 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 4: GM or you're the coach and you don't have any 128 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 4: we're close to the kind of success that most people 129 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 4: were hoping for, then somebody has to go. 130 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: I mean, this is the accountability stuff that we talk 131 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 2: about all the time in sports, and I think sometimes 132 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: that gets overblown, in my opinion, because we are so 133 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 2: quick to fire people, like at least on in like 134 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: radio and blogs and articles. 135 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: It's like, if you're the Rockies, well, okay, that's fair, 136 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: that's fair, that's fair. 137 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: And that's been the organization that usually gets held up 138 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: as the one that values loyalty above almost everything else. 139 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: And so, yes, you're right, that's the one example. But 140 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: I do think sometimes we get into the well, this 141 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 2: guy's been terrible. I mean, George Payton had been fired 142 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: for how many times throughout this town until now where 143 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: everything looks great in the draft classes and the free 144 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 2: agency classes, it all looks really good. So sometimes you 145 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: do need to let these things play out. But in 146 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 2: this case, Rick, as he just said, it felt like 147 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: this was an inevitability, probably as soon as August, maybe 148 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 2: even earlier. 149 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they probably waited maybe a year or 150 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: two too long, in fact, And I'm an original Rockies 151 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: season ticket holder. I believe you are too, Dad, big fan, 152 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: big baseball fan, and the Rockies have become hard to 153 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: watch and hard to follow because they've been so bad 154 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: three straight one hundred lost seasons and then the catastrophe 155 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: this year. Somebody has to pay the price for that, 156 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: and I think they probably should have done that after 157 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: the first one hundred lost season. 158 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: They kept Bud Black until this year. 159 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying it was Bud Black's fault, but 160 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: typically most baseball franchises, that's the first guy that goes. 161 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: They'll fire the baseball manager and then try to figure 162 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: things out. But the Rockies, if you want to say 163 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: they're loyal, I guess that's one way to look at it. 164 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: I just think they're a little slow to react in 165 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: those situations. 166 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: I would be interested. 167 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: I mean, of course, the names that they're going to 168 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: be looking at. The first thing that jumped out to 169 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: me was maybe the opportunity for Dick montfort To sort 170 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,679 Speaker 2: of picked the brain of several execs around the league. 171 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: Now. I say that because we actually interviewed him a 172 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: couple of years ago and he said they did that. 173 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: They said they did that, and he said nobody brought 174 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: us anything that we didn't already know yep. 175 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: Which it was a perplexing comment. 176 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 4: It stuck both of us, right, It's it's one that 177 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 4: I mean, You've got the owner of the Rockies on 178 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 4: opening Day coming to where we are outside the course, 179 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: outside of course field and and doing an interview. So 180 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 4: you want there's a certain I think there's a certain 181 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 4: amount of respect that he is due. Now he didn't 182 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 4: he didn't do the interview this year, so and we 183 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 4: don't know, we don't know exactly why. 184 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: But when he. 185 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 4: Said that, I just thought that was really a curious thing. 186 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 4: I'm not saying I'm not saying they didn't, and I'm 187 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 4: not saying that wasn't his perspective, but I did find 188 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 4: it hard to believe that that if you would interview 189 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 4: people outside your organization that are in that business in 190 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 4: Major League Baseball, that none of those people would have 191 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 4: any ideas in terms of how to turn this franchise 192 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 4: around that you hadn't already discovered yourself. And if if 193 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 4: that were the case, then I would imagine this thing 194 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 4: would have been turned around a little bit quicker. And 195 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be a smartss about this, but 196 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 4: I think two things. You know, Greg fiesel the had 197 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 4: run the business operation for thirty some years. 198 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: This will be his last season. 199 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 4: Now we know that Bill Schmidt is going to step down, 200 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 4: and I think Walker Montford has been a positive sort 201 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 4: of influence on his dad and the rest of the organization, 202 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 4: judging from things that I am told from people that 203 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 4: would know. I don't pretend to be down there. I mean, 204 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 4: I'm just not, so I'm not going to act like 205 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 4: I am. But so I I think there will be 206 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 4: somebody from outside the organization, and you know what, I'm 207 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 4: willing to say, Hey, let's get i mean fresh start, 208 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 4: Let's get some ideas going, let's build the farm system, 209 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 4: let's get this thing back on track, because we've seen 210 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 4: what a great baseball town this is. Especially if the 211 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 4: Rockies are anywhere close in August and September to being 212 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 4: in the race. 213 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: I think they still have five or six sellouts this year. 214 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: Well yeah, that's a historically bad season. And look at 215 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: the last five seasons. 216 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: Guys. 217 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 3: The Rockies lost four hundred and ninety one games over 218 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 3: five seasons, almost one hundred games a year. And that's 219 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 3: why I say they waited maybe two three years too 220 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: long and then it got away from them. 221 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: So this was needed. That's the right thing to do. 222 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: Let's hope they can get the right guy in there 223 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 3: and turn this around, because, like Dave said, this is 224 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 3: a huge baseball town. People will go and support this 225 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 3: team win or lose. In a lot of cases, I 226 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 3: think people are going to watch me be their favorite 227 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: team from another market where they moved here from. But still, 228 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 3: I mean, they still have a lot of fans fill 229 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 3: in that park on a nightly basis. 230 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 2: I mean to that point, do you realize what their 231 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: attendance finished this year, like as far as where they 232 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 2: ranked top thirty, Yeah they were. 233 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: I think they were a little bit above middle of 234 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: the pack, exactly middle of the pack. 235 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: Fifteen, yeah, fifteenth, you're the worst team in baseball and fifteenth. 236 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: Now, point they averaged like twenty twenty three or twenty four, 237 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 3: did they average thirty thirty thousand? Then that went up, 238 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 3: that went up because midway in the summer, I know 239 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: they were down like twenty six something. 240 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: Yep, thirty thy fifty seven was the final average when 241 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: it got when all sudden done. 242 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of markets tremendously in Major League Baseball. 243 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: With five seasons like this, there'd be five six thousand 244 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: people at the game. 245 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: Well, Athletics, I mean Athletics, the Marlin they don't draw. 246 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: They don't draw in Florida. 247 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tampa BA Tampa Bay ninety seven hundred on average, 248 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: ninety seven hundred, Miami on average fourteen thousand. These are 249 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: the bottom. Athletics were ninety four. That's a little bit 250 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: of a weird, weird situation. Checkout White Sox eighteen, Pittsburgh eighteen. 251 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: And so again those are bad teams, like some of 252 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: those are really bad teams, but not as bad this 253 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 2: year as the Rockies, but not as bad as the Rockies. 254 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: And so you had the point. I mean, we've made 255 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 2: the point that a lot of out of town fans 256 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: or even local people that are fans of teams from 257 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 2: out of town will go to these games, and that 258 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: does add to the numbers, but either way, it's still 259 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: a draw, and that that's kind of the point is 260 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: it's still a draw. It's a town that wants good baseball, 261 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: and hopefully the people they bring in here can help 262 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 2: without process. One last thing on this and gave will 263 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: check check in with Jack Corgan at four thirty. 264 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: What about William Shaffer. 265 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I think I would say that if 266 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 3: I had to handicap it, I would say he would 267 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 3: not be back. 268 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: I think he inherited a pretty tough, tough draw, agreed, 269 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 4: and I think there were some things that he did. 270 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 4: I thought he brought energy to the team. 271 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: You know he would. 272 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 4: And I listen, I'm a big fan of Buddies too, 273 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 4: and I'm like Rick, I think Buddy. I think Buddy's 274 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 4: a good manager. He just got stuck in the situation 275 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 4: that that you know, you can't win in. But I 276 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 4: thought Schaeffer was accountable after games for the most part. 277 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 4: But I think judging from sort of what they've done now, 278 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 4: I would my guests would be that they will completely 279 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 4: start over with a totally new crew, and they'll lay 280 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 4: that thing out for Rockies fans and say here's here's 281 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 4: who we've hired. Give us a chance to earn your 282 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 4: trust back. 283 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 2: I think You're absolutely right, and I think this move 284 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: was sort of the indication to go from your GM, 285 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: which will be down from there. 286 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: And you're right about Walker Montfort. 287 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: I mean that was something that was done kind of 288 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: middle season that also sort of tipped their hand on 289 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: changes coming. And I'll give you credit because I was 290 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: being a smart alec earlier in the season, because I 291 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: was acknowledging what we all know to be true with 292 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: that organization where they tend to not make a lot 293 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: of changes even in the midst of everything looking like 294 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: they should. And you said, Nope, there's going to be changes. 295 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: Just wait, just hanging there, It's going to happen. And 296 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: today was the first move. And especially if they bring 297 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: in somebody from outside the organization that it gives you 298 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: a chance to It does. 299 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: Create a real interest. 300 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 4: I think if you're a Rockies fan, yes I know 301 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 4: we are, and I'm anxious to see, like, Okay, who 302 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 4: you bringing in? Yeah, what's what's the you know, what 303 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 4: are their credentials look like? And then who's going to 304 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 4: be the skipper? And as he had major league experience before, 305 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 4: and if so, what kind of experience. So, I mean, 306 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 4: Bruce Bochie just stepped down long ago. Now Bruce's you know, 307 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 4: Bruce is over seventy years of age, and I'm not 308 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 4: suggesting it would be him, but I am suggesting that 309 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 4: I think the next next manager is going to be 310 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 4: somebody that has some experience running a major league team. 311 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, And regarding Schaeffer, I think fans would be really 312 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: disappointed if they brought him back as the manager. You 313 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: could give him a role that's, you know, somewhere on 314 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: the on the team, but I think you need to 315 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 3: clean house. Otherwise fans are going to just throw their 316 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: hands up in the air and go, here we go again, right, 317 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 3: And I love you know, Day brought up a name 318 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: manager like Bochie. Maybe that's what you need, maybe just 319 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: on a three year deal, to bring in a guy 320 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: who's won, a guy everybody knows, a guy that fans 321 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: will have confidence and get excited about it. 322 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: I mean, if you kind of like that, I if 323 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: you look at the job that. 324 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 4: He did in Texas and again he did, his name 325 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 4: just popped into my mind. But I'm trying to think 326 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 4: what year he took the Rangers job. And I want 327 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 4: to say, before he got there, the Rangers had been abysmal. 328 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 4: Now I don't know anything about the farm system of 329 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: the Rangers or if they had a good young nucleus 330 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 4: of players that that Bruce inherited, but in a relatively 331 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 4: or period of time. I think maybe the second year, 332 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 4: second or third year, I can't remember, and the Rangers 333 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 4: were in the World Series. So I do think it 334 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 4: would be important to find a guy that you know, 335 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 4: has had some success, that has some gravitas that you 336 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 4: know players will look at and say, Okay, this dude, 337 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 4: he's done it before, he knows what it looks like. 338 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 4: And I think it's going to be It's gonna be 339 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 4: really interesting to see what they do. 340 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: I mean, buddy, was that for this team for a 341 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: long time, and I mean you and I both celebrated 342 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: that higher. 343 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: I loved that too. 344 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: It was it was at the right time, and he 345 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: felt like he pushed the right buttons early on. But eventually, 346 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: you know, the message gets lost, especially when you start losing, 347 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: and there's only so much you can do right as 348 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: a manager at that point. So yes, I'm looking forward 349 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: to I like Bochi. I liked that name a lot. 350 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: That would be very interesting. 351 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: Has his name been mentioned, No, Honestly, I haven't seen it. 352 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: Either Yeah, not that I've seen, and he might not. 353 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not even sure Bruce Bochi wants to 354 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 4: continue managing. I mean he may be at the point 355 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 4: of his career where it's like, listen, I'm gonna have 356 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 4: a I'm gonna have a cold win and kick back 357 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 4: and watch some baseball. 358 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 3: Maybe take a year off or something like that. I 359 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 3: don't think he's got a year to take off. Hewls 360 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 3: Bruce bow I don't know, early seventies. He's got to 361 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 3: be seventy ish. No, he's he's over seventy. The seventy seventy. 362 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 3: Oh I thought he was early seventies. Oh, so he's 363 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 3: maybe three years. Yeah, bring him in. Yeah, a little 364 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: shot in the arm for the organization. The Rangers and 365 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 3: Boche mutually agreed to end this tenure. Uh, that can 366 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 3: mean anything, but yeah, Ron Washington's out there. Although he's 367 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 3: got health issues, underwent quadruple bypass heart surgery. He's so 368 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: he's probably out. And those are the only real name 369 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 3: guys that I can see that might be available by 370 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 3: the Dolvin the Yankees manager is going to change here 371 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 3: if they lose. If they lose to the Red Sox, 372 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 3: how you doing with that? I have you said, Chisholm, 373 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 3: Not that I'm a Yankees fan, but I am. I 374 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 3: grew up as a Yankee. Stand you take him out 375 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 3: of the lineup, A thirty home run guy over thirty 376 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: stolen based guy. 377 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: Why? I don't know. 378 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 4: I don't know, but I love baseball, and I love 379 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 4: baseball in particular this time a year when there's so much. 380 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 3: At stake, so much at stake. I got a name 381 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 3: for you. Oh, go ahead, Former Rocky Joe Girardi. 382 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: Huh. I like Joe a lot. Yeah, I like Joe 383 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: a lot of success. He's got some toughness to him, 384 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: some grit. 385 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 3: Sixteen years old. What has Joe Girardi been doing? I 386 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 3: mean he left the Phillies looks like twenty twenty two, 387 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 3: so he's been I don't know if he's been in 388 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 3: the game since then, but. 389 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: He's well rested, and well that's one would look at it. 390 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 3: He's rested, he's fresh three years of rest, he's tanned, 391 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 3: he's ready to go. 392 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: If fans know. 393 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 3: Who he is, I think he was a fan favorite 394 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: when he played here, and he's been a good manager 395 00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: in Major League Baseball. 396 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: I like you, Yankee tonight a lot. I'm big on me. 397 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: You're taking the inks. 398 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 2: I got the number, by the way, the uh they've 399 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: got to be Famus one eighty five and let me 400 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 2: see if the favorite Yeah one and a half. Yeah, 401 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: so that's pretty typical over nundred seven and a half. 402 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: But I love I love Roodon h He's a tremendous pitcher. 403 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 2: And I'm not a brayon bello guy who's pitching for 404 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: the Red Sox. 405 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: So all I know is that I like you guys. 406 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 4: The Yankees loaded the bases in the bottom of the 407 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 4: ninth with I did not score. 408 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: It did not score, three one loss. That's all in 409 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 2: the three to one loss. It's gonna get better. It 410 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 2: has to get better. 411 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: And you know what worst case scenario, Just look at 412 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: the photo of Rick and that's going to roof of 413 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: your day. 414 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 4: You know what, That'll bring a smile to anybody's face. 415 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 4: That'll be posted here, I would say probably by six 416 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 4: thirty tonight. 417 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 3: Grant just Joe Girardi is the color analyst for the 418 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: Yankees on TV. 419 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: Oh is he really? That's a nice job. He believed that. 420 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know after I think you take the 421 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: shop after a world Series win of course, you know Yankees. 422 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 3: Well if that's if that's the prerequisite, then Joe Girardi 423 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 3: is not going to be the manager because the Yankees 424 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 3: aren't winning the World Series this year. 425 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: Really don't think. 426 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 3: I'm not even sure they're getting out of this three 427 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 3: game serious, I mean five game? 428 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: Wait? What is this? I see I thought it's three? 429 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: You know what I think it is three? Yeah, yeah, 430 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: it is three. 431 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, they do too, So they've got to win. Yeah, 432 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 4: they've got to win the last two. 433 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: All right, we're off and rolling here. Well we come back. 434 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: We got to hear VIC fans. You're talking about bo Nix. 435 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if you already heard it. It's really good. 436 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 2: And of course we want to talk about the meatballs 437 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: that Rick still hasn't gotten. 438 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 3: We'll get to that all coming to Saturday Saturday night, 439 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 3: you think so? Me and Vic? If Dave shows up, 440 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: bet on that. If Dave shows up, we have an invitation. 441 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: You should show them the photo. We'll get to that next. 442 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 2: We will chat with Ian Rockport cover at the top 443 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 2: of the aar A lot of questions, a lot of 444 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 2: injuries around the league. Forty nine ers tomorrow night are 445 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 2: going to be pretty shorthanded Lamar Jackson. 446 00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: We'll get to all of that coming up here in 447 00:20:59,440 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: just a little bit. 448 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: Vic Fangio talking about bo Nicks the has so many 449 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: layers for me, not only just because the Broncos are 450 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 2: playing the Eagles and Vic of course the DC, but 451 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: then also his history here check out what he said. 452 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 6: He's a scrambler, he's a competitor. You know, he'll throw 453 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 6: the ball in tight places. He runs their offense really well. 454 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 6: I think Sean's done a great job bringing him alone. 455 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: And they got their quarterback for the future. 456 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 6: You know, they looked long and hard for many years, 457 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 6: and I've got one. 458 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: That last part, That last part sends me so much 459 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 2: because you got to think, for Vic, who we all 460 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: regard as a very very good coach, he never got 461 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: the quarterback to pair with his really good defense, and 462 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: just that very in vy He's like, Yeah, they looked 463 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: really hard for that for many many years. 464 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 4: He never got the coordinator that's to pair. That's it 465 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 4: with the Broncos offense, right man. I told that story before, 466 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 4: and I'm not the only one that knows it. But 467 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 4: when Vic took the job, he was promised that the 468 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 4: idea was Gary Kubiak was going to be his offensive coordinator, 469 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 4: and then he wasn't. 470 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: So vicked Hardy signed. 471 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 4: Gary wanted to bring a couple of former Broncos assistant 472 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 4: coaches on with him and was told that that's not 473 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 4: going to happen. So therefore he said, well then I'm 474 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:31,719 Speaker 4: not coming. 475 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 3: And it all got back to vic late having to 476 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 3: hire rich Gangarello because he had been in the Shanahan 477 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 3: sort of tree with the forty nine ers. But as 478 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: I was told by someone who would know, it's one 479 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 3: thing to be in the system, it's another thing to 480 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 3: design and call the place. 481 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: As we saw out of the league. 482 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 3: Now he's out of the league, maybe he can be 483 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 3: the Rockies manager. 484 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 7: So yeah, I always loved his pressers personally. I always 485 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 7: got a lot of information, got dealt kind of a 486 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 7: tough hand. This is a great defensive coach. Uh, He's 487 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 7: not warm and fuzzy. It was a hard guy. 488 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 3: To you know, hard guy to like, I guess is 489 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: a way to put it. He's old school man for 490 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 3: some old school tough guy. 491 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 492 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 3: And I tried, Dave. I tried really hard, as you know, 493 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: and finally broke through. And then they fired him. So 494 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 3: that's why I'm hoping. 495 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 4: I don't know, Billy, it would be an accurate characterization 496 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 4: to say you finally broke through. 497 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 3: Well, he did invite me to dinner if you come. 498 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 3: That was yeah, there wasn't there was a qualifier. There 499 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: was a qualifier, But I did get invited. It took 500 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 3: three years. I finally broke through, and then now he's 501 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: not here. 502 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 2: But I'm with Dave, I think we're taking some liberties 503 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: with the word broke through here. 504 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 3: It feels like it was an actual invitation on the 505 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 3: air here. I'm sure Grant's probably got. 506 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 2: It somewhere, so he trapped him on the air and said, hey, 507 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 2: a coach, now that we're acting here. 508 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: After down of asking. 509 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do think he got got dealt a 510 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 3: bit of a tough hand here. 511 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: Yes he did. 512 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 3: And I'm not sure if Vic would have made a 513 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 3: really good head coach or not. I don't think anybody 514 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 3: would know. Well, you know, he's a damn good coordinator 515 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 3: and he has been everywhere he goes, and you know, 516 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 3: he's probably got some secrets that he knows about this roster. 517 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 3: There's still some guys on this roster that played for him. 518 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 3: A few that he would know their weaknesses and their strengths. Uh, 519 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 3: it's going to be interesting on Sunday. 520 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 2: I always think about his tenure with the Broncos, especially 521 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 2: when it comes to the quarterbacks and the offense and 522 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: all that, and and his his thoughts on Drew Lock, 523 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: because he just never and listen, you don't have to 524 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 2: tell me if you knew something otherwise, Dave. But it 525 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: never felt like he warmed up to Drew Lock like that. 526 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: That really wasn't as much as I think the fan 527 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 2: base clamor for Drew. 528 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: It was. 529 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: He called him a thrower of the football more so 530 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: than a quarterback. And I remember when he and Teddy 531 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: Bridgewater shared the same birthday and He's like announced it 532 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: with Teddy Bridgewater's birthday. 533 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: The media was like, it's also Drew lax birthday. He's like, 534 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: oh all. 535 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, allows for me to add there. 536 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I. 537 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 3: Uh, no, nonsense guy. Yeah, that's what he is. Vic 538 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 3: loves football. Yes, there have been there have been. Overdoing 539 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 3: my job a long time, there have been a handful 540 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 3: of coaches that you you stay in touch with a 541 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 3: little bit, and and Vic is one of those guys 542 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 3: to me at least. 543 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I love the fact that he loves our 544 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 4: game so much. You're right, he's not. I mean, he'll 545 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 4: go play golf a little bit, but it's about football 546 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 4: and designing a defense and how. 547 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: Do we get better, and so I I, uh, you know. 548 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 4: I admire that about him, and he's he is a 549 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 4: hell of a defensive coach. You and I Ryan, on 550 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 4: whatever day that was Monday, maybe Monday, we talked about 551 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 4: this matchup with. 552 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: Two I think brilliant football minds. 553 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 4: You got Sean Payton trying to create a scheme that 554 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 4: can move the ball and ultimately score points against Vic 555 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 4: Fangio's defense, and Vic knows Sean very well and vice versa. 556 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 4: I just think this, man, this is a huge storyline 557 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 4: between two brilliant football guys. 558 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: In the regular season. 559 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 2: There's a really fun moment in the game this last 560 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: weekend with the Eagles and the Bucks when the two 561 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: broken plays we talked about those, they Mecha Buka touchdown 562 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 2: and then the Bucky Irving touchdown, and they went immediately 563 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 2: to him in the box in the booth to see 564 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: a little reaction from him and just this like, oh, 565 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 2: like the dirty look. 566 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 3: And I was like he was asked in the in 567 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 3: the Today's Wednesday. In the Tuesday press conference that coordinators have, 568 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 3: he was asked by a reporter in Philadelphia coach and 569 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 3: the reporter was trying to be Cagy and I think 570 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 3: phrased it probably in a pretty good way, something to 571 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 3: the effect of, Hey, you get up two big plays 572 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 3: in that win in Tampa, would you consider those to 573 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 3: be good learning opportunities? 574 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: Teaching opportunities? And he said, yep, teaching opportunities. 575 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 3: And he said, you want to elaborate a little bit 576 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 3: in terms of like what exactly you mean. 577 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: He goes, Nope, just teaching opportunities. 578 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 8: No nonsense, No, no nonsense, guy, Yep, right, they'll be 579 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 8: I just think this is one of the best individual, 580 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 8: you know, matchups between a brilliant offensive guy and a 581 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 8: brilliant defensive guy. 582 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: I just can't wait to see how this thing plays out. Yeah. 583 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: I just started looking at the game coming up on 584 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 3: the short week and give me some optimism. Oh, I 585 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 3: do feel like going to Philly on a short week 586 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: and then to London is tricky. But they just had 587 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 3: a really tough game against Tampa and got beat up 588 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 3: a bit in that game. Some injuries. We'll see how 589 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 3: that plays out during the week, But I just kind 590 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 3: of feel like Philly is they're about ready to lose one. 591 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 3: You know, they're four and ohero. They haven't really won 592 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 3: impressively on offense, and so this could be the week 593 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 3: where maybe the Broncos could beat a team they're not 594 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 3: supposed to beat. That's the optimistic me, and I tend 595 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 3: to lean that way anyway. But as the week goes on, 596 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 3: I'm you know, trying to build up a little more 597 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 3: optimism for this game. What I'm worried about is going 598 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 3: to London after There's a lot of distractions built into 599 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 3: these trips, and I think on this trip the players 600 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 3: will bring their family with them, wife or maybe even kids. 601 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 3: There's a lot of distraction of like, Okay, we're going 602 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 3: to London, next to which you got to pack. We're 603 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 3: going to be there a week, Yeah, you mean to Philadelphia. No, 604 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 3: I mean after Philly. The families are going to meet 605 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: over there. But that's but still there's all taken care of. 606 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 3: But still they're going and you know, and you've got 607 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 3: to get your passports in order and all of that stuff. 608 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 4: Negative ghost writer, you don't need a passport. No, you 609 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 4: need a passport. But I don't think the families. I 610 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 4: don't think that'll be a distraction, because that's all I hope. No, no, no, 611 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 4: I think that's now, you know. I mean for those 612 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 4: of us. I mean you're leaving right from Philly to 613 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 4: go to to go to London. Yep, right, so you've 614 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 4: got you got that. I'm coming back here to coach, 615 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 4: and then I will catch up with you guys leaving 616 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 4: I think Friday. But I would say this to Rick's point, Yeah, 617 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 4: I think you could make the case of Philly's kind 618 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 4: of ready. But man, oh man, this team does not 619 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 4: beat themselves the right. I mean, Jalen hurts four games, 620 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 4: zero picks. They've turned the ball over, I believe, one 621 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 4: time in four weeks. 622 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: One time. 623 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 3: So if you're going to beat them, especially in Philadelphia, 624 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 3: you are going to have to win the game. 625 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: They are not. I mean, they just don't appear to be. 626 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 4: A team that gives games away, and we've seen teams 627 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 4: that do that. 628 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 3: I think it's a great defensive coach. He's not warm 629 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 3: and fuzzy, hard guy to like, I guess is a 630 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 3: way to put it. He's old school man for some 631 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: old school tough guy. Yeah, and I tried, Dave. I 632 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: tried really hard, as you know, and finally broke through 633 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 3: and then they fired him. 634 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: So that's why I'm hoping. 635 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 3: I don't know, Billy, it would be an accurate characterization 636 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 3: to say you finally broke through. Well, he did invite 637 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 3: me to dinner if you come, that was yeah, there 638 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 3: was there was a qualifier there, There was a qualifier. 639 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 3: But I did get invited. 640 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: Like he had some friendly moments, and there were guys 641 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: in the locker room that got to see some of 642 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: that once in a while. 643 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: It's just it was few and far between. 644 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: It was very, very difficult getting compliments out of him, 645 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: certainly most of them. 646 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 3: I mean that I think he's socially uncomfortable. Yeah, but 647 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 3: I think he's a really good dude. Yeah, from what 648 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 3: I hear from people that really have gotten to know him, Yes, 649 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 3: he's a really good dude. 650 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: He's just not he's kind of awkward socially. 651 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: We're going to be in Rappabord joining us here at 652 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 2: the top of the hour. Boy, the laundry list of 653 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: injuries for the Ravens, that's that's something we got to 654 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: get to. I wanted to also get to the Dylan 655 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: Gabriel story when we didn't get. 656 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: To get that with Dave. 657 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 2: But Dylan Gabriel named the starter with the Cleveland Browns 658 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: today and so not so much breaking down what that 659 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: means and whatever it means the Browns, right, But it 660 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: was the Shore Sanders part of it that is. 661 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: Really getting the most attention today. 662 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 2: Now, if you haven't seen the video, you and I 663 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 2: were texting about it earlier. Shadoor Sanders being asked in 664 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: the locker room about Dylan Gabriel being named the Starter, 665 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 2: and rather than answer any questions, he's sort of pantomimed responses. 666 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: He like smiled and he just words yeah, no with 667 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: no sound coming with. 668 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: No sound coming out, and let the amount of people 669 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 2: are it is bizarre and it's it's weird behavior. And 670 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: we can get into that in a second. But a 671 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: lot of people was funny is they were like, is 672 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: my phone broken? Like there's so many people. 673 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: I thought the same when I first watched it. 674 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, let's go turning up the volume and 675 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 2: then you can hear the questions. You're like, what's going 676 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 2: on with this thing? Yeah, but it was very it 677 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 2: was very weird, but it was a response and even 678 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: Adam Schefterer pointed this out later. It was in response 679 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: to what Rex Ryan said on Get Up the other day. 680 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 5: So Fanski is one of the I mean, an outstanding coach, 681 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 5: all right, but why the hell isn't he putting should 682 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 5: or Sanders. We're all waiting to see the Shad or 683 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 5: Sanders be the guy or Gabriel whatever. Something's missing, something's 684 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 5: missing with this kid. This kid talks and he runs 685 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 5: his mouth like he's a I could be a starting 686 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 5: quarterback with his arms crossed like this. Get your ass 687 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 5: in the front row and study and do all that. 688 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: If I know the. 689 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 5: Whole league knows, quit be in an embarrassment that way. 690 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 5: You got the talent to be the quarterback you should be. 691 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 5: You should be embarrassed that you're not the quarterback now, 692 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 5: you know, I like to I don't like this toe. 693 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: Yes, Rex Ryan famously big on toes. 694 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, Chador's mom then came out on 695 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 3: social media and called Rex Ryan cancerous evil, which she 696 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 3: she deleted afterwards. I don't know if Shador might have 697 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 3: called her, went mom, come. 698 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: On, you can't do that. 699 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 5: Mom. 700 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 2: Maybe look bad here yeah, parent parents in general should 701 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 2: stay out of it with pro athletes, but especially the moms, 702 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 2: and that that's look as your kid, I understand, but 703 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 2: it just makes it look like you're coming to their 704 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 2: defense and they can't defend themselves. 705 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: Drew Locke's mom did the same thing several years ago. 706 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 2: When a lot of media was coming after Drew Locke, 707 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 2: and it just made things way. 708 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: Worse for Dreds. 709 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 3: I remember that, and when you're a quarterback in the NFL, 710 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 3: you have to take shots like that, not just shots 711 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 3: on the field, shots off the field from the analyst. 712 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 3: And if you can't take that, I don't know what 713 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 3: that says about him. He's going to have to get 714 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 3: a little more callous because this is how it's going 715 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 3: to be your whole career. 716 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 2: It wasn't a great look for Shador. But I will 717 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: say a couple really quick things here. First of all, 718 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 2: interviewing a third string quarterback in general is kind of 719 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 2: a weird deal. I would never go into locker room 720 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 2: and ask him longer anything about the team or like, 721 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 2: unless he's going to be the starter or even got 722 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 2: promoted to backup, there'd. 723 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 1: Be no reason. 724 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 2: And even at backup, I don't want a reason to 725 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: talk to him. So talking to the third string quarterback 726 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: is weird in general. But he's such a polarizing figure 727 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 2: and he tends to give you good sound bites, so 728 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 2: I can understand what from the media. The first thing 729 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 2: people are thinking is like, well, doing Gabriel named scharter. 730 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 2: We should go see what Shador Sanders has to say 731 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 2: about this. And I understand that. And he isn't your 732 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 2: typical third stringer because of that right, because of the name, 733 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: and because of who he is. But at the same time, 734 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: for Shador, who wants to continue to prove that he 735 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 2: belongs in this league, that he can be a leader 736 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 2: in the locker room, they could be a leader on 737 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 2: the field. I felt this was a bit childish, to 738 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 2: be honest, and I liked Youdor a lot. I tend 739 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 2: to be for so very supportive of him. I thought 740 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 2: this wasn't a great look for him. Ultimately, I agree 741 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 2: it's not a good look. 742 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 3: I feel like he's very likable, charismatic, yes, and I 743 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 3: feel like he's a bit immature with that type of behavior, 744 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 3: Like I feel like he wasn't ready to be an 745 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 3: NFL quarterback coming out of SeeU. He's got a lot 746 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 3: of talent, but he wasn't ready like Dylan Gabriel, I 747 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 3: think is ready more prepared for it, and I'm not 748 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 3: sure he was ready if he was mature enough to 749 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 3: handle all of this. And I think that was an 750 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 3: example right there that maybe he's not think about this. 751 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 3: In an alternate universe, Ryan Shador would be starting for 752 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 3: the Ravens this week, but he turned that down. They 753 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 3: tried to draft him. Remarkable and he could have had 754 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson as a mentor and he would be starting 755 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 3: this week, probably with a high powered offense, and he 756 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 3: could really show off his skills. But he chose not 757 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 3: to go that route. He said, don't draft me. I 758 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 3: don't want to play for you guys. Appport joins us 759 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 3: next