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Speaker 3: The basketball Jones is back over here right six' five

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Speaker 3: one guy at the Coffee maniac, Household Glad SlowMo is,

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Speaker 3: back AND i guess we really don't Need. Tyrus i'm

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Speaker 3: thinking this is dictated Because bones is way better THAN i. Thought,

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Speaker 3: PLUS i Love io's. Game Probably Tias Tyas jones Y Tias,

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Speaker 3: Jones that's WHAT i was. Thinking, yeah and the first

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Speaker 3: game it seems like he really had excellent chemistry With jade.

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Speaker 3: McDaniels like to see them together on the floor more,

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Speaker 3: WELL i think we did see the promise in the

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Speaker 3: second quarter In denver of What bones And io might

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Speaker 3: do together just, running just, running and that's a nice

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Speaker 3: change of pace for a. Team what the best, TEAMS

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Speaker 3: i think do is they they rely on different people

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Speaker 3: to do different, things and they give their offense a.

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Speaker 3: Jolt maybe with other players who aren't the main, players

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Speaker 3: a different way to, score a DIFFERENT i guess spirit to,

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Speaker 3: it a different tempo to. It that's not always going

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Speaker 3: to be easy in the. Postseason but it's not at

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Speaker 3: all a bad. IDEA i wouldn't SAY i didn't get

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Speaker 3: to this With, johnny but a texture raised though a fair.

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Speaker 3: Point we all Love Mike, conley, right we all have

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Speaker 3: appreciated What SlowMo, did and we all Love, ingles, Right

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Speaker 3: but can you make the argument that that's one roster

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Speaker 3: spot too many for quasi assistant coaches Ambassadors BECAUSE i

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Speaker 3: think you. COULD i think you could, say, now, well

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Speaker 3: the unknown is at the expense of who there may

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Speaker 3: not have, been anybody that they really had a chance

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Speaker 3: to bring in via, buyout for, example who might actually

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Speaker 3: be able to help them in a playoff game more,

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Speaker 3: regularly BECAUSE i think right, NOW i Think johnny Thinks

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Speaker 3: SlowMo can still be a. Factor maybe he. CAN'T i

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Speaker 3: haven't seen him in a. WHILE i still think that's

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Speaker 3: going to be. Limited With conley at this, POINT i

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Speaker 3: think it's going to be. Limited doesn't mean he can't

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Speaker 3: help in a. Game and With, joe he's just, there,

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Speaker 3: right we know that so IT'S i think it's a

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Speaker 3: fair observation to make that as popular as those guys all,

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Speaker 3: are as much we like having, around you, know would

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Speaker 3: it have been better if you could find, another another

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Speaker 3: guy who might have a chance to be a player

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Speaker 3: now or a player, later you? KNOW i think that's.

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Speaker 3: Fair but on the buyout, market nothing's happened. Yet AND i,

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Speaker 3: think who's the guy With dallas longtime, VETERAN i think

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Speaker 3: he's staying With. Dallas he was one of the names

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Speaker 3: that have been mentioned about being a buyout, candidate AND

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Speaker 3: i don't know how many others are are even out

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Speaker 3: there at This at this, point let me revert back

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Speaker 3: to the Basketball jones. Discussion this is From allen And. Afton,

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Speaker 3: dan are you suggesting we should get the commeminative print

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Speaker 3: commemorative prints ready to celebrate almost doing? SOMETHING i thought

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Speaker 3: you were the guy that would, say, nice but win.

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Speaker 3: Something if you're, winning or if you're writing a column

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Speaker 3: as an instant, retch would you be this positive on

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Speaker 3: almost doing? Something have you really gotten this? Soft living

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Speaker 3: here this? Long this may be proof that you are

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Speaker 3: one of us, now after, ALL i don't think it's going.

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Speaker 3: SOFT i think it's all timing. RIGHT i think you

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Speaker 3: look at the. LANDSCAPE i said. THIS i can still

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Speaker 3: remember the. Day my good, Buddy.

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Speaker 2: Roger.

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Speaker 3: HEDRICK i don't think he's with us. Anymore Is roger

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Speaker 3: He Hedrick, SOLON i don't.

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Speaker 2: Know It's Chris, middleton the. Player you're Talking.

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Speaker 3: Chris, middleton thank, you as the. PLAYER i was thinking

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Speaker 3: about WHO i think is gonna he's going to stay With.

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Speaker 3: Dallas Roger headrick used to run The vikings and.

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Speaker 2: HE i don't know whether he said.

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Speaker 3: This to me or he conveyed a message that he

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Speaker 3: got to. Me and it was a belief THAT i

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Speaker 3: was inconsistent in my commentary on a toughness scale between

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Speaker 3: HOW i wrote about The vikings and HOW i wrote

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Speaker 2: Timberwolves. Interesting but this goes.

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Speaker 3: Back to probably the Early Steph Marbury garnett days a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit he's eighty nine years, old by he is.

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Speaker 3: Alive, yeah, okay my, apologies, Sorry. ROGER i shouldn't have done.

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Speaker 3: THAT i should have checked. First in any, case he

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Speaker 3: felt like HEN i was sure as easy on us

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Speaker 3: retort was, well the programs are in different, places so

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Speaker 3: you grade on a different. Curve in other, words as

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Speaker 3: The wolves ascended a, bit it was improvement over where

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Speaker 3: they had, been which was not even within a sniff

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Speaker 3: of the playoffs Right Marbury garnett, period there were signs

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Speaker 3: that they are ready to. Emerge oh, yeah, OKAY i

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Speaker 3: grew up on, it and so at that POINT i

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Speaker 3: think it's easier to be positive and to say this is.

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Speaker 3: Better it looks like something's going. On The vikings were

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Speaker 3: much further along in whatever they were attempting to. Do so,

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Speaker 3: example if The, vikings as they did Under, denny lost

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Speaker 3: in the first round of the playoffs three straight, years by.

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Speaker 2: Year, three you're up in the ante on the. Criticism

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Speaker 2: same with The.

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Speaker 3: Wolves, eventually when The wolves were making the playoffs early

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Speaker 3: after having never made, it they got celebrated because they

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Speaker 3: had not even been a. Factor but guess, WHAT i

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Speaker 3: think we were one and done six straight, years and

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Speaker 3: is that pace? Quickened then guess what we started grading,

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Speaker 3: on or at LEAST i tried to start grading on a

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Speaker 3: tougher curve for The. WOLVES i think that applies right.

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Speaker 3: Now i'm grading starting with going to go for men's

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Speaker 3: basketball on a curve where if let's say two years from,

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Speaker 3: now they're playing five.

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Speaker 2: Hundred or a little below five.

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Speaker 3: Hundred still in The Big, ten chances Are i'm not

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Speaker 3: going to be as positive AS i am, now knowing

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Speaker 3: what they're coming out of and factoring in the number

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Speaker 3: of injuries that this team has, suffered and you're, allowed

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Speaker 3: it looks like they got somebody who basically knows what he's.

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Speaker 3: Doing that's not saying we're on the verge of winning

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Speaker 3: A Big ten. Title in the case of the, women

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Speaker 3: it's even. EASIER i mean that they are in a

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Speaker 3: place they've not been in close to a decade where

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Speaker 3: they're going to make the postseason and they're gonna make

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Speaker 3: it with a. Bullet they're not going to, weigh you,

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Speaker 3: know wander. In they're not going to backpedal. In and

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Speaker 3: let's remember it got pretty rough here the last few

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Speaker 3: years Under lindsay correct it was not going. Well So

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Speaker 3: i'm grading right now on a different. Curve if the

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Speaker 3: go for women the next two years go back into

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Speaker 3: the tank and end up you, know we was a

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Speaker 3: one year, wonder then, yeah it's IT'S i don't think

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Speaker 3: it's going to continue to be. Celebrated in the case

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Speaker 3: The wolves final four the last two years is. Good

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Speaker 3: now we all are aware if they probably if they

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Speaker 3: don't go as, far they'll probably get. RIPPED i think

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Speaker 3: we've been pretty hard on The wolves this. YEAR i

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Speaker 3: think we, have SO i don't Think i'm going soft.

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Speaker 3: NECESSARILY i think it's more what's the what's the landscape

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Speaker 3: that we're working in regarding each of those, programs each

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Speaker 3: of the three, programs and you have to factor that in.

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Speaker 3: IT i just don't know how you watch The gopher men's,

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Speaker 3: team even when they, lose given their deficiencies and given

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Speaker 3: their lack of, depth and say they should be getting

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Speaker 3: sad as this is as a threshold blowing. It they

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Speaker 3: should be getting blown out, regularly and they're. Not they

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Speaker 3: have a bunch of losses that were five or. Less,

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Speaker 3: yeah a few overtime, games some heart, breakers. Heartbreakers they

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Speaker 3: go To michigan and they end ultimately THERE i, think

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Speaker 3: lose by. Ten but based on everything we, knew it

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Speaker 3: was it felt like it was going to be twenty.

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Speaker 3: Points six point game was like eight minutes. Left it

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Speaker 3: was crazy SO i don't think there's any. SOFTNESS i,

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Speaker 3: think you, know the anti can always be upped and

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Speaker 3: you can grade on a tougher. Curve but we Were

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Speaker 3: we got to realize where we are and where we have.

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Speaker 3: Been so you're looking FOR i look for signposts for

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Speaker 3: a while of progress now that eventually it has to

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Speaker 3: victories and has to pay.

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Speaker 2: Off in the case of the, women they got a

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Speaker 2: lot of victories this. Year that's a good records.

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Speaker 3: EXACTLY i don't think there's any apology necessary for praising

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Speaker 3: that program right. Now so that would be my answer

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Speaker 3: To alan From, Afton and to be honest with, You

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Speaker 3: i'm not going to lie to. YOU i was starting

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Speaker 3: Here we're talking nothing but, hockey and AND i was

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Speaker 3: trying maybe to downplay the fact that we've lost two

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well And i've always said not make a big

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Speaker 1: deal of, it but this one, TOO i would say To,

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Speaker 1: alan basketball is one of your love languages as.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes there's, basketball, Guy, yeah that's. IT i went

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Speaker 2: back To gary Got Magic. JOHNSON i did have a Basketball, Jones,

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Speaker 3: Shawan were right all the way back to watching high

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Speaker 3: school basketball At memorial Auditoryman, GARY i had a Basketball,

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Speaker 3: jones even THOUGH i was already Watching Chicago blackhawks, hockey

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Speaker 2: Both there was room for pretty much all of. It

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Speaker 2: we should pause. HERE pj got.

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Speaker 3: Ben got the, shove hoops per strings tight like a.

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Speaker 2: Glove wolves in Five.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan From, bloomington speaking of grading on a, CURVE i

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Speaker 3: realized it's. Hockey but should we not be great hard

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Speaker 3: hockey in their, Season louis says. NO i, say, YES

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Speaker 3: i get. It you, know we lose, people we're, younger

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Speaker 3: we're refashioning the. Thing i'm enough of a hockey purist

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Speaker 3: to believe that we should never dip as low as

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Speaker 3: we have this. Season i'm, SORRY i JUST i, Now

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Speaker 3: i'm not calling for everybody's. HEAD i don't mean, that

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Speaker 3: BUT i just THINK i actually don't think they're getting enough.

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Speaker 2: Heat NOW i.

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Speaker 3: SHOULDN'T i should qualify that because we do Get texters

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Speaker 3: who are frustrated hardcore hockey fans who are and they

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Speaker 3: may be unrealistic in what they're expectations, are but it's.

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Speaker 1: UH i look at track record though, too Like bob

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Speaker 1: had that thing coming pretty, well you have, to, RIGHT

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Speaker 1: i mean a couple of frozen fours and all of.

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Speaker 3: That the, argument, though for, me is if you have

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Speaker 3: the machinery that we, have AND i know hockey college

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Speaker 3: hockey has changed dramatically from let's, say you, know thirty

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Speaker 3: years ago in terms of, depth et, cetera and where

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Speaker 3: people go.

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Speaker 2: And where they're willing to, GO i.

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Speaker 3: DON'T i just have a hard time believing it ever

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Speaker 3: should should fade to the level that we seemingly have this.

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Speaker 2: Season where else WAS i?

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Speaker 3: GOING i had one other, Text, oh any other team

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Speaker 3: Third march? Second Today's march second trade deadline in THE?

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Speaker 3: I mean in this, town, well how do we, view,

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Speaker 3: To win a single playoff? Game as it reverted to

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Speaker 2: Oh, man does that do anything for? You because it

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Speaker 3: IT i even theorized yesterday if if literally that's what

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Speaker 2: Year it's, possible BUT I kyler just. DOESN'T i.

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Speaker 3: doesn't appear there's any momentum from any of The jackals

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Speaker 2: Rodgers so, OKAY i don't. Know i'm Just i'm Just i'm.

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Speaker 3: ELSE i THINK i Think, jones AND i might be Overrating,

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Speaker 3: Time i'm sure this did not take you by surprise

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Speaker 4: The iranian scientists are we're trying to have been trying

433
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 4: to develop intercontinental ballistic, missiles which eventually would be able

434
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 4: to reach The United states with a warhead on, them

435
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 4: and SO i do think that was kind of one

436
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 4: of the precipitating. Causes on the other, Hand i've heard

437
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 4: administration officials assert that there are so many things that have,

438
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 4: happened so Many american soldiers in The Middle east and

439
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 4: In South, asia In, afghanistan for, example they have been

440
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 4: killed by improvised explosive devices that have been supplied and

441
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 4: created By. Iranians so they've taken a toll on The United.

442
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 4: States and if we go back to the bobbing of

443
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 4: our embassies in the late nineteen nineties and the attack

444
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 4: on THE uss coal in two, THOUSAND i Think october,

445
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 4: two there has been a lot of attacks on The

446
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 4: United states From, iran And President trump seems to be

447
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 4: taking a very hardline year and saying.

448
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 2: Enough with, This we're going to deal with.

449
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 4: THIS i think one of the problems IS dan, though

450
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 4: is how much can you actually deal with it from

451
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 4: the air just using air. Power you can bomb, sites

452
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 4: you can bomb navy, ships you can bomb a lot

453
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 4: of the defense, capabilities but it's a pretty entrenched power

454
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 4: structure In iran and decapitating the, leadership which we've done

455
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 4: at least with The Supreme leader Of, Iran Ali, khamani

456
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 4: is debt, now but there's so many layers beneath that,

457
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 4: that you, know how do you root that out without

458
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 4: actually putting ground forces. In i'm not sure how that's.

459
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 3: Done based on your own experience in The Middle east

460
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 3: and what you've read and believe and folks you've talked,

461
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 3: to is there any sense that there is within the, country,

462
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 3: potentially because it sounds like the strikes are going to

463
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: go on here for a, while a galvanizing force that

464
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 3: could coalesce and become something to potentially take that power away,

465
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 3: from as you, say the, regime because it's not just

466
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 3: it's so, entrenched no matter what the demonstrations, indicated it's so.

467
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 3: Entrenched it's not just about one. Person is there any

468
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 3: reason to believe that we know or are we just

469
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 3: hoping that something might coalesce involving The, shas you, know

470
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: The shas, family whatever the case may.

471
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Speaker 4: BE i think there is substantial opposition In iran against the,

472
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 4: regime AND i think especially the under generation really wants a.

473
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 4: Reform they want to be out of the, world to

474
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 4: study outside Of. Iran they don't want to be seen

475
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 4: as this pariah country. Anymore and it's not just young,

476
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 4: people but there's opposition to the regime and to that.

477
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 4: Theocracy the problem is that those in power have been

478
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 4: so ruthless to put that down and to put any opposition.

479
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 4: Down the numbers, vary but you hear numbers that thirty

480
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 4: thousand the government killed thirty Thousand iranians during the protests

481
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 4: just since the beginning of the. Year whether that number

482
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 4: is accurate or, NOT i don't. Know i've seen numbers

483
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 4: like seven thousand and eight. Thousand still a lot of,

484
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 4: people and when you ruthlessly put down any opposition like,

485
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 4: that it has a big.

486
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: Effect.

487
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 4: Now one of the things that could happen In iran,

488
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 4: now given the actions of THE us government and The

489
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 4: israeli government and our, militaries is there could be sort

490
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 4: of a decentralization of, power because it's not just The

491
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 4: persians In. Iran There's, balucci's there's A, zeri There's kurds as,

492
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 4: well to all of whom have their own interests and

493
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 4: so unifying that to get behind creating some kind of

494
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 4: representative institutions is going to BE i, think very very.

495
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 4: Difficult and the other thing to bear in, Mind, dan

496
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 4: is that the country has ninety million. People it's a

497
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 4: pretty big, country and so finding out who to support

498
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 4: and which democratic movements there could possibly gain power is

499
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 4: going to be part of the. Problem and then if

500
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 4: they're being ruthlessly put down by what remains of THE,

501
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 4: irgc of The Iranian Revolutionary Guard corps and The Cuds

502
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 4: force and those loyal to the leaders, there you, know

503
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 4: it's going to be very. Hard AND i really, HOPE

504
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 4: i really, hope And i'm going to be watching for

505
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 4: reporting on this that THE us, military The partner Of,

506
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 4: defense and the administration has a plan in place for

507
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 4: supporting any kind of movement towards democracy. There it's going

508
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 4: to take a very, complicated complex plan to be able

509
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 4: to do. That you can't JUST i don't think you

510
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 4: can just rely on sort of, saying you, know we,

511
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 4: bombed we bomb The iranian military and now it's, okay

512
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 4: you can just take to the streets and you'll be

513
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 4: able to achieve your. OBJECTIVES i don't think it's going

514
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 4: to work that. Way that's just my.

515
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: OPINION i want to read you SOMETHING i read ON

516
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 2: X this is FROM i think a political.

517
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 3: Writer if you call yourself a progressive and you're not

518
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: even a little excited by the prospect of a woman hating,

519
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 3: gay hating jew Hating neanderthal regime that in no way

520
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: represents the will of its people being, crushed you're not

521
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: actually a.

522
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: Progressive do you agree with?

523
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 4: That? WELL i agree. THAT i agree that it's a

524
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 4: terrible and sinister regime that oppressed its, people that violated human,

525
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 4: rights that Killed iranian people just, expressing you, know sort

526
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 4: of freedom of speech and so, on are trying to

527
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 4: get that and ruthlessly put them. Down That i'm happy

528
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 4: to see that regime. OUSTED i just don't know if

529
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 4: we've been able to actually. Ousted it's going to take some.

530
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 4: Time it's going to take some. Time these things are not,

531
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 4: easy and it's, not in my, view going to be

532
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 4: Like Venezuela, dan which has been touted as a. Success

533
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 4: we Captured President maduro and decaptiated the leadership, there but

534
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 4: those in power now still are really kind of the

535
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 4: remnants of his. Administration So i'm not sure how much

536
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 4: has actually really changed. There and in any, event that's

537
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 4: an easier task than what we'll be facing In. Iran so,

538
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 4: Yes i'm happy That kamani has, gone And i'm happy,

539
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 4: that you, know we appear to be making some. Progress

540
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 4: BUT i think you have to sort of take a

541
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 4: long term view here and see what happens over the

542
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 4: coming weeks and even, months to see if this is

543
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 4: going to be successful or whether these actions have added

544
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 4: to an already Chaotic Middle.

545
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: East Former congressman WHO i think you're familiar, With Adam,

546
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 3: kinzinger you described himself as a Proud, rhino wrote, This

547
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: it's completely acceptable to hate The, ayatola hope THE us

548
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 3: wins and, succeeds and also believe that the president should

549
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: have come To congress and made the case to The american.

550
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: People was that a?

551
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 4: MISTAKE i, AGREE i agree with What Kim finger has,

552
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 4: said AND i THINK i think it's always. Smart it's

553
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 4: always smart for an administration to consult With congress and

554
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 4: to make The american uh and and to bring The

555
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 4: american public behind what the administration wants to. Do if

556
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 4: they have persuasive, case The american public will. Follow one

557
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 4: of the problems that happens is that if things bogged

558
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 4: down AND, uh and things get really tough. There if

559
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 4: you haven't made that effort to really explain why we're doing,

560
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 4: this and you don't Have congress behind, you then it's

561
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 4: going to lead to a real fall off in support

562
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,959
Speaker 4: from The american, public which you kind of, need if,

563
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 4: you which you definitely need if you if you want

564
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 4: to SUSTAIN, uh sustain our military role, there especially when

565
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 4: we start taking. LOSSES i think there are six service

566
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 4: people who have been killed so, far and that number

567
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 4: is likely to go up for, sure the longer the

568
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 4: longer disconflict goes. On The iranians are are relying on

569
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 4: their own warfare in a lot of, ways AND i

570
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 4: think we're seeing the future.

571
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: Of warfare.

572
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 4: Being demonstrated, now and they'll just use drones on all

573
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 4: these places in The Middle east that they think are

574
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 4: the countries that they're are allying with The United, States

575
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 4: and so it's kind of a Frightening we have overwhelming.

576
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 4: Power i'm not suggesting that we, don't but changing the

577
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 4: reality on the ground is going to take a lot

578
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 4: of time and a lot of. SACRIFICE i think.

579
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: The, strategy THE rna of strategy seems to, be as you,

580
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: say we're sending these drones. Everywhere we're going to maybe

581
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: deal with some oil, tankers we're going to deal With

582
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 3: we're going to nail a couple of. Hotels and the

583
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: hope seems to be the strategy that if they do

584
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 3: enough damage that those countries will turn on THE us and,

585
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: say you've got to call off your dogs. Here this

586
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 3: is getting out of. Control but Everything i've read so, Far,

587
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: michael is it's doing the opposite that so. Far it's

588
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: making those, individuals those countries in many cases seem more

589
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: interested in following THE us lead or certainly not separating

590
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 3: themselves from.

591
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: That what do you make of that, Strategy, WELL.

592
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 4: I i think your assessment of that is right. There

593
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 4: they're sticking with the other countries in The Middle east

594
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 4: are sticking with The United states so, far and AND

595
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 4: i think THAT'S i think that's that's a good. Thing

596
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 4: we'll see if that, continues if they start taking, serious serious,

597
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 4: casualties and the longer that that this drags, OUT i

598
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 4: don't think in any event that The trump administration is

599
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 4: going to change its mind based on on. Pressure if

600
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 4: it eventually does come from The Gulf, states for, EXAMPLE

601
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 4: i don't think that's going to deter this administration from

602
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 4: from what it from what it wants to. DO i

603
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 4: think it has its objectives and it will stick WITH

604
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 4: uh with going forward full speed until those objectives are.

605
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 4: Accomplished one of the things, Though dan that that there's

606
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 4: some very practical considerations, here which is we're going to

607
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 4: be going through a lot of smart bombs and a

608
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 4: lot of munitions very, quickly and we do not have

609
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 4: that as our military does not have an unlimited supply

610
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 4: of THOSE. Uh and you, know if you if you

611
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 4: if you're using a lot of that those reserves up

612
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 4: In iran and fighting this, conflict you've kind of depleted

613
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 4: resources for if something else pops, up which you, know

614
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 4: you can never totally plan, for but you can you

615
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 4: can sort of always bet on that there'll be some

616
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 4: conflict coming up In asia or or you, know In

617
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 4: Eastern europe or something like.

618
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: That So.

619
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 4: I'm sure our leaders are are aware of that and you,

620
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 4: know trying to figure out how to how to make

621
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 4: sure that our forces have this have the resources that they.

622
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: NEED. Uh there was an analysis out OF i believe

623
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 3: in The New York times By Steven erlanger THAT i

624
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: thought raised a lot of interesting, questions and it seemed

625
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 3: TO i think the big conclusion was, that you, know

626
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: maybe the regime does make, it who knows, yet but

627
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 3: that The Islamic republic is already, unpopular it's already, weakened and,

628
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 3: now in the words of one, writer further just diminished

629
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 3: at home and in the, region the LOWEST ebb since

630
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 3: its leaders took power during the. Revolution this is part

631
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 3: of what fascinates me is we think we tend to

632
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: think about The Middle east as if it's, static as

633
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 3: if nothing ever, changes like it's twenty three years ago With,

634
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 3: iraq and it does seem in a lot of ways

635
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: that the landscape is very. Different can you speak to

636
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 3: that issue and how that pertains to you, know the current.

637
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: SITUATION i think it has changed.

638
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 4: SIGNIFICANTLY i think the regime In iran was was. Weakened

639
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 4: it has been weakening over the last couple of. Years

640
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 4: we have talked about this Before dan in The Israeli

641
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 4: israel's targeting in the past couple of years of leaders In.

642
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 4: Iran they KILLED i think the leader Of hesbila And.

643
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 4: LEBANON i think this was about a year. Ago and

644
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 4: these operations that they've had there where they where The

645
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 4: israelis seem to have known Where iranian leadership is has

646
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 4: got to have created paranoia In.

647
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Speaker 2: Iran so that was.

648
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Speaker 4: Weakening the economy is, terrible the inflation rate is extremely.

649
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 4: HIGH i think people aren't happy after the. BOMBING i

650
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 4: think it was Last.

651
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: June was it.

652
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 4: Twelve days of THE us And israel that, really you,

653
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 4: know put a thunder punch on On iran and and

654
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 4: really made some of its proxies and at least stand,

655
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 4: Down and that was a significant. Change so there are

656
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 4: these changes that are taking. Place AND i think it's

657
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 4: quite possible that Because iran was in this weekend position

658
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 4: the government, there that perhaps that explains the timing Of

659
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 4: President trump's decision better than anything. Else SO i do

660
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 4: think there are significant changes that are taking, place and

661
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 4: it's just unclear now how it's all going to play

662
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 4: out over.

663
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: Time before we get to, it there's a couple of

664
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Speaker 3: good questions to come into the Bratche On Brian kaffean

665
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Speaker 3: text line as we continue our discussion With Mike hurley

666
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Speaker 3: before we get. THERE i heard rom And manuel a couple.

667
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Speaker 3: Times he's doing a lot of analysis these days FOR,

668
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 3: cnn and he has gotten into something That i've not

669
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 3: heard a lot of other analysts. Discuss i'm curious to

670
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: get your reaction to. It and for a manual one

671
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: of the concerns for him where he does think that

672
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 3: this particular issue is going to be very big as

673
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: it plays. Out he said over years and, decades not just,

674
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 3: minutes that this is perceived more as us With israel

675
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 3: together in a way that he, says we've tended to not. Go,

676
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,959
Speaker 3: therefore countries or Anti israel can view us as doing

677
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 3: their bidding in a way that maybe we've done a

678
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: better job, of at least in theory separating a little.

679
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 2: Bit is there anything to that or is he overplaying

680
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: that aspect of the.

681
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 4: Story So dan just to cliffy. It so his point

682
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 4: is that we're too close To israel now in.

683
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 3: This, yeah that in this case almost as if maybe

684
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 3: it was their plan and that we got talked into

685
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 3: and to a certain extent we are Doing trump is

686
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 3: Doing israel's.

687
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 4: Bidding, YEAH i have heard that. Argument and there's no

688
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 4: question In israel is our is our you, know our

689
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 4: principal ally in, this and we're cooperating so closely in

690
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 4: these attacks On. IRAN i do think that we have

691
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 4: we have interests to protect our national security Beyond israel's

692
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 4: interest in protecting its own national security because of a

693
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 4: concern about the nuclear weapon threat If iran were to

694
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 4: develop one and then have missiles that could deliver, them you,

695
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 4: know intercontinentally to get to The United. States so ensuring

696
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 4: that that capability doesn't, EXIST i think is in THE

697
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 4: us national. Interest but, YES i can see that previous

698
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 4: administrations have wanted to maintain at least a degree of

699
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Speaker 4: separation From israel and not you, know just give a

700
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 4: blank check to every action That israel was. Taking now

701
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 4: we are very very closely, allied AND i think have

702
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 4: in in particular since the attacks From Gazan israel back

703
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago In october.

704
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: Seventh and SO.

705
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 4: I suppose that's a perception that could affect us in

706
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 4: the eyes of other countries in the, region that we're

707
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 4: too close To. Israel but a number of those, Countries

708
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 4: Saudi arabia counter Weight United Arab, emirates their mortal enemies

709
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 4: Of iran as well, too so that they they they

710
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 4: Applaud israel in The United states or actions that we can.

711
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: That we ca In iran text From todd wants me

712
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 3: to ask, you how much Of Iran iranian leadership do

713
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 3: you believe are true, believers as in those who really

714
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: Believe god put them there to attack The, west as

715
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 3: opposed to a more, cynical self interested actors who just

716
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: want the. Power and how might that dynamic affect the outcome.

717
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 4: HERE I i think that's a really interesting. Question there's

718
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 4: no question in my mind That Supreme Leader Ali, famani

719
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 4: who recently Deceased Supreme, leader was a true. Believer i've

720
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 4: read his speeches in, translation and for forty years he's

721
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: ended his speeches by starting the chant death To america

722
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 4: and death To, israel and so he definitely was Anti,

723
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 4: west anti The United. States AND i think there are

724
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 4: a number of people around him that are true believers

725
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 4: as well. Too BUT i find the question really interesting

726
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 4: BECAUSE i think the implication of it is WHAT i

727
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 4: infer from it, anyway is, that, YEAH i agree that

728
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 4: there are any number of people who have profited from the,

729
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 4: corruption the, scandals the ripping off from The iranians that

730
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 4: were In iraq for, example and you, know we're just

731
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 4: cutting off with money and wealth and so, on and

732
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 4: have profited greatly from the positions that they're, in AND

733
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 4: i wouldn't call them true believers in in the same you,

734
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 4: know sort of at a terrible principle step that The

735
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 4: Supreme leader. Had but there there are any number of

736
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 4: people that that that will feel threatened now because these

737
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 4: wonderful likelihoods that they've had being allied with with the

738
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 4: theocracy and and and. Rising because of that in power

739
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 4: and stature and wealth is going to be cut off

740
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 4: or could be cut, off and they'll fear that and

741
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 4: they'll fight against.

742
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: That you.

743
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 3: Know the one of the questions in this country obviously

744
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 3: is whether the that there we might end up having

745
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 3: to deal with sleeper cells here that might be activated

746
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 3: at a time like, this given the desperation of The iranian.

747
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 3: Government do you have any belief or any knowledge of

748
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 3: what kind of reach The iranians have in that? Regard

749
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: have they been so weakened in recent years, that, yeah

750
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 3: there might be the chance of somebody acting on their

751
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 3: own saying they're doing it on behalf of the, cause

752
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 3: but less likely that there would be anything organized here

753
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 3: From iran sleeper, cells et. Cetera what's your level of

754
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 3: concern regarding that?

755
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: Issue wasn't that?

756
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 4: Shooting was it In texas or The southwest? Anyway in

757
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 4: the last ear two of someone who who is angry

758
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 4: about THE us attacks.

759
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: And, Indications, yeah, yeah, Exactly, yeah and.

760
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 4: That's likely a lone. Wolf BUT i mean what you

761
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 4: cited is a fear of mine as well, too that

762
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 4: are there sleeper. Cells you, know one would think that

763
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 4: the regime was so paranoid In iran that they and

764
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 4: they know that, there they know that their military capability

765
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 4: is is really very and compared to that of The United,

766
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 4: states so they can't win a conventional. War and when that,

767
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 4: happens then usually they use asymmetric kinds of times of,

768
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 4: Attack so trying to get a sleeper cell or some,

769
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 4: qualified you, know, personnel kind of the Way putin is

770
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 4: done In, europe sending people to kill the enemies Of

771
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 4: putent trained. AGENTS i WOULDN'T i wouldn't discount. THAT i

772
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 4: think it could be a. Possibility one hopes that THE

773
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 4: fbi is all over that and is has got eyes

774
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 4: on Potential iranian agents. Here but you, know you always

775
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 4: have to fear that there are those that that you

776
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 4: don't know, about or that the government doesn't know, about

777
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 4: and that could do some that could do some. Damage

778
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 4: they definitely will want to strike back in in ways

779
00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 4: that that will get The american public's. Attention and so

780
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 4: if they have that canon kind of, CAPABILITY i imagine

781
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 4: they'll they'll light it.

782
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 3: Up two last things are real quick AND i could

783
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 3: we Could we could talk for hours about this.

784
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: Stuff we always appreciate your.

785
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 3: Insight The president, SPOKE i think this was in an

786
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: interview with might have Been Jake tapper OR, cnn basically saying, that,

787
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 3: well the big wave hasn't even hasn't even arrived yet

788
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: in terms OF, us what THE us has. Planned do

789
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: you have any idea what that might entail or what

790
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 3: he might be referring.

791
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 4: TO i don't have a real clear idea THAT i

792
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 4: Think Marco, Rubio sectary Of State rubio said the same

793
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 4: thing today or yesterday as well, too that you know sort,

794
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 4: OF i guess the implication is you haven't seen anything,

795
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 4: yet and SO i don't. Know it could be like

796
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 4: waves and swarms OF us launch, drones for. Example it

797
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 4: could be h, disruption complete disruption of of cyber In.

798
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 4: Iran it could be taking control through cyber Of we

799
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 4: have some pretty good offensive cyber, weapons but critical. Infrastructure

800
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 4: for example In. Iran the The, iranians of, course when

801
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,959
Speaker 4: when these conflicts, start completely control the, internet so people

802
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 4: aren't really able to call out Of iran or even contact.

803
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 4: There they're kind Of persian family in The United, states

804
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 4: and there's there's a lot Of iranians as you, know

805
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 4: In Randian americans now In Los angeles and other parts

806
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 4: of the. Country. Uh and and SO i think that you,

807
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 4: know all those sort of capabilities are out, There so

808
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 4: it could be an attack THE us really really turning

809
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 4: on some of these cyber. Capabilities it could be using

810
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 4: swarms of drones taking down more and more of the

811
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 4: infrastructure And. Iran i'm not really sure These this is

812
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 4: just speculation on my, Part, dan but no doubt we

813
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 4: have an amazing array of. Capabilities so, far we've been

814
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 4: kind of focused on the using smart bombs in these

815
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 4: in this bombing campaign and each, say taking out more

816
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 4: ships in The iranian navy and production affility. Facilities of,

817
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 4: course we've seen the decapitation of The iranian. Leadership but you,

818
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 4: know the question always is that these goes on longer and. Longer,

819
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 4: uh the conflict goes on longer and longer is how

820
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 4: many targets do you have left after a certain. Point but,

821
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 4: YEAH i imagine there's still you, know quite a number

822
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 4: of tools that we have that have not been used.

823
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 4: Yet and maybe that's what they're referring.

824
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: To last item on the.

825
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 3: Subject people always at a time like this worry about,

826
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 3: well you THE us might And israel might have certain

827
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 3: intentions about the limitations of this, war but they are

828
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 3: unforeseen circumstances that can suddenly make it a widening.

829
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 2: Conflict do you see any signs of? That do? You

830
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 2: is that something you're you're wary of and and and

831
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 2: what would you be looking for?

832
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 4: There, well you do, see you sort of see sort

833
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 4: of see it. Expanding israel has been has been uh

834
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 4: attacking His bolla And, lebanon for, Example so that's that's

835
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 4: seeded up quite a. Lot. Uh The uranian, drones as

836
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 4: we've discussed, already have attacked other places in other countries

837
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 4: in The, gulf AND i expect that's going to continue

838
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 4: for a. While so, YEAH i think THAT i think

839
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 4: other things can can. Emerge that's the one thing about about.

840
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 4: War you can have your your your your plans and

841
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 4: and hope that things, go go your. Direction i'm always

842
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 4: reminded of that that famous line from the Boxer Mike

843
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 4: tyson who, said you have a game plan and boxing

844
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 4: until you get smacked in the face and to wash

845
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 4: your plan out pretty. Quickly so, YEAH i think THAT

846
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 4: i think that there are any number of things that

847
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 4: that could, happen AND i sort of wish that this

848
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 4: is this is just me, now this is An, israeli

849
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 4: Uh United states. ACTION i always like to to be

850
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 4: in a position where where we've got our traditional allies

851
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 4: on board as well, too because they have interested in

852
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 4: the at least The, brits The, french The, germans and

853
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 4: to have that sort of sewn up to be getting more.

854
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 4: Help And i'm sure we're getting intelligence help from them

855
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 4: as well. Too but this so far as administration that

856
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 4: likes to go it alone in these, matters and it's

857
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 4: just it's it's really hard for me right. Now, well

858
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 4: we'll talk about this more in the, FUTURE i, Think,

859
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 4: dan but to see over the horizon and around around

860
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 4: corners as to what might be coming at, us it's

861
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 4: just hard to.

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Speaker 2: Predict i'll leave you with.

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Speaker 3: This this is From Secretary rubio earlier. TODAY i believe

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Speaker 3: The president made the very wise. Decision we knew that

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Speaker 3: that that would precipitate an attack Against american, forces and

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Speaker 3: we knew that if we didn't preemptively go after them

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Speaker 3: before they launched those, attacks we would suffer higher. Casualties

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Speaker 3: that's not exactly going to discourage the notion that this,

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Speaker 3: is you, know more of An israeli operation that we

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Speaker 3: kind of piggybacked.

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Speaker 4: Onto, yeah but it begs the question of whether whether

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Speaker 4: we could have that, is the administration could have put

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Speaker 4: the brakes on it as well. TOO i, mean it's

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Speaker 4: hard to See israel taking unilateral action without having some

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Speaker 4: backing from The United. States, now they will do that

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Speaker 4: if they think that their own security is facing an imminent,

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Speaker 4: threat but you, know typically they try to have us on.

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Speaker 4: Board SO i it sounds to me Like rubio is

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Speaker 4: playing a bit of a game. Here he wants to

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Speaker 4: make the argument that The israelis are going to do,

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Speaker 4: this so we had to participate to protect our own

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Speaker 4: forces in The Middle. East, maybe but my guess is

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Speaker 4: that my guess is that we were involved in the planning.

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Speaker 3: From the Beginning that's why we have you on because you,

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Speaker 3: can you, can you can translate for us because all your.

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Speaker 3: Experience thank, you my. Friend always good to catch, up

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Speaker 3: and the next time maybe we'll.

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Speaker 2: Talk what the.

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Speaker 3: What The Michael Hurley vikings quarterback plan for twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 3: is BECAUSE i know you have recommendations.

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Speaker 2: THERE i know you pay.

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Speaker 4: ATTENTION i do pay attention And i'm open for A

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Speaker 4: i guess a good draft and you know we'll. See

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Speaker 4: BUT i think we NEED i think we need a

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Speaker 4: better season come up and we have him the last.

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Speaker 2: One thanks, Again we'll be in.

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Speaker 4: Touch Thanks, Dan Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Mike Michael, hurley FORMER cia.

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Speaker 3: OFFICER I dinah's own an attorney a long long time,

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Speaker 3: ago all sorts of jobs for the government working at

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Speaker 3: The pentagon nine to, eleven and decided at that point

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Speaker 3: he wanted to go back out into the, field into

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Speaker 3: The Middle east as, well and we became familiar with

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Speaker 3: him and he's been joining us for, years especially at crisis.

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Speaker 2: Times we are very. LATE i apologize for. That guards.

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Speaker 2: Ye top five is coming up next With i'm sure

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Speaker 2: some good. Headlines