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Speaker 1: We welcome to the Creative Construction of Wisconsin home improvement

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Speaker 2: You know, a couple months a were saying you may

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Speaker 2: want to check your furens make shirt works. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: don't have to worry about if you're checking it today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you better. May you have better be working, if better.

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Speaker 1: A lot of cuddling going on today. I can tell

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Speaker 1: you that. In fact, you and I are a little

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Speaker 1: close here today.

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Speaker 2: That's why we don't do live streaming yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not yet. But well we did have a conversation

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Speaker 1: with that, didn't we.

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Speaker 2: Well it works good in here, but put your shirt

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Speaker 2: back on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, I'm not putting. I mean now I've got

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Speaker 1: those daisy dukes and then my shirt off and we're

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Speaker 1: ready to go. We're not supposed to lie in this show, so.

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Speaker 2: Okay, anyways, I gotta do some of the pulver service

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Speaker 2: announcements about the ice. Yes, I mean a lot of

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Speaker 2: phone calls about ice. How can you solve the ice problem?

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Speaker 2: And you know every week you kind of make front

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Speaker 2: of our front of our friend Randy. Randy was giving

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Speaker 2: me some really good advice, you know, talking to Rice

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Speaker 2: or Randy earlier. Because people they call up and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: I want you to you know, can you come over

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Speaker 2: and knocked the icicles off my head or chop off

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Speaker 2: my roof or something. That's like the worst thing you

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Speaker 2: can do. I mean you should. You can get the

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Speaker 2: snow off, you can do that kind of stuff, but

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Speaker 2: don't go up to the hammer or hatchet knocked ice off.

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Speaker 2: That just makes it worse.

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Speaker 1: If you do call Randy Miller to come.

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Speaker 2: Help, Yeah, well no you will be calling him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you will be if you do that.

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Speaker 2: But well but just you know, people say, well, how

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Speaker 2: can you prevent the icicles? And it's a lot to

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Speaker 2: do with you know, It's like if you call Randy,

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Speaker 2: that's what they do. They'll come out there a little

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Speaker 2: infrared cameras whatever, they can figure it out. That solved

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Speaker 2: the problem. So they can't really, you know, I can't

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Speaker 2: guarantee that's not going to be icicles because you just

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Speaker 2: that's just nature, bicycles or just part of life. But

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Speaker 2: they can help reduce it. You know, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of air ceiling because like one time I asked them

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Speaker 2: to cone to my dad's. I was come, my dad's

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Speaker 2: also is leaking. Roof's leaking even over it's not, it's

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Speaker 2: not leaking. You got a air ceiling problems, you know,

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Speaker 2: insulation in the attic venting. Get your roof fented. You know,

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Speaker 2: if you make your roof fence properly, it gets cold,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't melt. Because what happens how ice damning works

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Speaker 2: is it melts and then we get see the edge

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Speaker 2: what overhangs are right, it freezes again and that's what

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Speaker 2: calls ice damming. So you want to do is you

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Speaker 2: want to roof to say the same temperature the whole

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Speaker 2: roof and they want to go away.

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Speaker 1: Man, So my my, my feet are frozen. Because you've

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Speaker 1: said good things about Randy Miller for the first three

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Speaker 1: minutes of the show.

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Speaker 2: That works out, well, well, we can we can rip

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Speaker 2: on them later when we Yeah, we can't like to

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Speaker 2: wish Randy Miller Marry Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Though there it is there. It is our special guest today.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be fun for me. We could we

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Speaker 1: could just turn this into a one hour baseball show

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Speaker 1: if you want. Marquette High Baseball. He played for South Banditwills.

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Speaker 2: Spencer about how time at Jesse got black flag for well,

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Speaker 2: he actually jumped the start, so he deserved it. But

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Speaker 2: in Wisconsin, guy, we didn't see it that way.

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Speaker 1: I think you're talking about racing. We're talking baseball. Man,

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Speaker 1: our special guest. He is an employee with Sherman Williams

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Speaker 1: and he's been there five years. But in his previous

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Speaker 1: life high school baseball player, played four years at Saint Louis,

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Speaker 1: brought it over to Sherman Williams. And again he's been

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Speaker 1: there five years. He is Parker Schneiitinsky. How did they do?

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Speaker 1: Pretty freaking not bad?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Not bad? Hey, remember we are not on on on cable,

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna watch our language there. Marquette High boy

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Speaker 1: my friends.

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Speaker 2: He maybe sitting in a truck with wrestler.

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Speaker 1: Shod I did. He had to go, he had to

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Speaker 1: go out to the truck. Parker, how you doing. It's

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Speaker 1: good to meet you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you as well. I'm doing great.

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Speaker 1: It's a little little chilli out, but you're not playing

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Speaker 1: baseball outside of the day for sure.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Hey, before we get into Sherman Williams, and I've got

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Speaker 1: a number of questions regarding the things to Sherman Williams.

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Speaker 2: You just say Sherman Williams.

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Speaker 1: Sherwin Williams.

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Speaker 2: What did I say, Sherman Sherman Williams.

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Speaker 1: That's all right. I got his last name right, that's

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Speaker 1: the biggest thing. I've got it written down four different times.

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Speaker 1: And I asked him when he got introduced to, you know,

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Speaker 1: half the time they'd go and coming up Parker, Parker.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're coming up Parkery.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Hey, how you doing.

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Speaker 1: Hey, really quickly, before before we get into to Sherwin

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Speaker 1: Williams and some of the things you do for them.

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Speaker 1: The the decision to go to Saint Louis for you,

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Speaker 3: Very hard actually.

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Speaker 4: So originally I was a late bloomer physically, so I

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Speaker 4: was uncommitted for college going into my senior year. Saint

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Speaker 4: But I then did commit to UWM Milwaukee for baseball,

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Speaker 4: then ended up having kind of some late growth spurts,

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Speaker 4: it ended up being a really good fit for me

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Speaker 1: They take away the walk on then after a bit,

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Speaker 4: Yep, pretty much right after my freshman year because with

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Speaker 4: Like it's not just a flat here's fifty percent of

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Speaker 4: all your tuition books all that it gets divvied up

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Speaker 1: So baseball's tough with that.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, it's really they.

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Speaker 1: They've got a budget and they've got to field a

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah, maybe you would have made a

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Speaker 4: I have some lot of the kids I've coached who've

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Speaker 4: baseball for a year at a big time SEC school.

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Speaker 4: Like get your money if you're the kid until they

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Speaker 1: But yeah, and those changes are coming, oh, because it's

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Speaker 1: You've got to believe that. Yeah, you kind of think

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Speaker 3: Yep, it wouldn't hurt you or anything. Transfer.

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Speaker 1: I want to I want to get mad at those kids.

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Speaker 1: a Badger fan, right and I wish he'd bring baseball

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Speaker 1: That's my second show, by the way, talk high school

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, so.

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Speaker 4: My dad actually worked for the company for around twenty years.

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Speaker 4: Really growing up. I had no intention to get into

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yet every kid yeah him Zack Sam that nobody

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Speaker 4: And so then pretty much I had run into one

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Speaker 4: Very good, I mean, or company that's been around one

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Speaker 1: Have you always been in this market?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, I've been in Milwaukee the whole time I've

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Speaker 4: But yeah, everything's been in Milwaukee so far.

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Speaker 1: A lot of growth then, yeah, yeah, no, yeah, not

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Speaker 3: I know, it's so shocking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I'm pretty good friends with Terry Kelly and

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Speaker 1: Dick Bash, John John Saint Peter, and yeah, my man

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Speaker 1: My son went to Calvary Baptist time. He went over

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Speaker 4: Like he he was my first class my freshman year

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Speaker 4: for one of my theology classes. And I loved him

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Speaker 1: And and what I love about him the most is

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Speaker 1: and he'll sugarcoat it a little bit. But I said, no,

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Speaker 1: Hey, do you recommend if people want to paint stucco

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Speaker 4: Absolutely So. Sherwin has called their management Training program. I

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Speaker 1: You get to throw out a first pitch. Absolutely, had

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I'd say it's a very mixed bag.

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Speaker 2: Driveway does' let you out until you talk to him?

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Speaker 2: It's about relationships too, because if you don't have a

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Speaker 1: What kind of questions are you getting this time of year?

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Speaker 1: The kind of questions contractors have for you. Is it

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Speaker 1: What is your father's first name?

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Speaker 2: Rich?

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Speaker 1: So he is Rich still with no So he finished

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Speaker 4: Down in Kenoshan now, but I mean he had done

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Speaker 3: It's terrifying.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get into that in the second segment,

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Speaker 1: you're telling us everything there is to know about Sherwin

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Speaker 4: If he wants to do it, it's a good company,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, recently. Congratulations. What's her name?

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Speaker 3: My wife's name is Bryce.

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Speaker 1: What is it Bryce? Bryce?

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Speaker 3: So think like Bryce Harper.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was yeah, yeah, that was.

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Speaker 3: When I was still playing baseball.

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Speaker 4: So I went off to Canada probably four or five

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Speaker 4: months after we were dating for nine months and somehow

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Speaker 4: she was.

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Speaker 1: Crazy enough to be like she hung in there.

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Speaker 3: She hung in there like an absolute trooper.

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Speaker 1: She has a rock starman, Brice, well done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll make sure she looks at the link later.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, there you go. Oh trust me, Yeah I looked.

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Speaker 1: I saw a picture. Y'all kicked your coverage by a mile.

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Speaker 1: You know that, right? Yeah, we all did all the

451
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Speaker 1: guy between between us. He really did. I'm telling you, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, dub she next time you talk to her,

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Speaker 1: tell her twenty twenty six is the year for her

454
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Speaker 1: to come in studio and come on the air with us.

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Speaker 1: And and that's so kind of her to agree to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you just say that you officially make that her

457
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Speaker 2: new year's resolution.

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Speaker 1: That that is her new Year's resolution. And I think

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Speaker 1: that I think that she's coming in, but I don't really,

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Speaker 1: it's not going to happen.

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Speaker 3: I have to push her a little.

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Speaker 1: Hey, when when you started, before we get to a break,

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Speaker 1: when you started with Sherwan Williams, did you have an

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Speaker 1: idea on what you're getting into? And and that the

465
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Speaker 1: the track that you're on after five years being kind

466
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Speaker 1: of moved up is that kind of what they're their

467
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Speaker 1: their their templays for guys like you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I mean there there is.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we have little marketing and recruiting tools that

470
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Speaker 4: kind of show what the normal path is. Now that's

471
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Speaker 4: really more with like our store side of the company. Again,

472
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Speaker 4: there's a bunch of other sides, so there really is

473
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Speaker 4: a ton of different paths. But really everyone kind of

474
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Speaker 4: starts in that training program for the most part. Once

475
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Speaker 4: you get kind of past running your own branch or location,

476
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Speaker 4: then the funnel kind of opens up. It can be

477
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Speaker 4: a lot more flexible. But I really knew what I

478
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Speaker 4: was getting into. I mean, my dad and a couple

479
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Speaker 4: of his, like our long term family friends, were very

480
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Speaker 4: blunt about it. They're like, you're working a retail store.

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Speaker 4: If you want to progress, like your goal is just

482
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Speaker 4: to kind of turn and burn and bust your butt

483
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Speaker 4: so you can get out have success. Then you become

484
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Speaker 4: a rep or you get the management level have more responsibilities.

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Speaker 4: But I was very aware of what I was getting into.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you like, do you you like the job that

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Speaker 1: you have now and you're hoping to stay in this

488
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Speaker 1: position for a while, there's your still movement coming, so

489
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Speaker 1: I'll be moving roles.

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Speaker 4: Here at the beginning of the year to run one

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Speaker 4: of our new stores that'll be opening. But really, with

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Speaker 4: most of the positions I've held, I think my recent

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Speaker 4: one as the sales rep was the longest I've had

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Speaker 4: with a little over two years. Okay, and not saying

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Speaker 4: I don't like my job or any my other positions,

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Speaker 4: just when a new opportunity comes up, it's and when

497
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Speaker 4: it makes sense for me my family professionally, it's hard

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Speaker 4: to turn down. And a lot of it's just having

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Speaker 4: success in my current position.

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Speaker 2: Well put that down. Your notes Like in fifteen years

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Speaker 2: are on again. We're like, hey, remember fifteen years Do

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Speaker 2: you think you need to see you're now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the president of Remember we're nice to you right

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Speaker 1: now when you get up into the high level there.

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Speaker 1: Hey no, the two no new locations coming next year,

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Speaker 1: one in Franklin, one in Waukeshop. Which one will you

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Speaker 1: be in charge of?

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Speaker 4: So I'll be in charge of our Franklin location, so

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Speaker 4: right off twenty seventh Street between College and Rawson, and

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Speaker 4: then our one in is going to be a new

511
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Speaker 4: commercial branch. So okay, we even have basically bigger locations

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Speaker 4: that serve as bigger customers, your commercial contractors, industrial content.

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Speaker 2: We need bigger, we need bigger buckets, a huge bucket, bigger.

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Speaker 3: Hey man, we do drums. It's you know, it's not here.

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Speaker 1: You see them light up here? Yeah, that answer. Hey.

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Speaker 1: The educational side to learn all of the things that

517
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Speaker 1: you guys do and to be able to answer questions

518
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Speaker 1: that people have many a lot of studying, right, one

519
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Speaker 1: hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: I mean even like as I'm interviewing people for this

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Speaker 4: new location, like paints paint to a degree, but also

522
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Speaker 4: when people come in expect you to be the kind

523
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Speaker 4: of the Swiss Army knife of every single question they

524
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Speaker 4: could have. There is a lot of learning to it.

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Speaker 4: So really, like with any new hires, new employees, I say,

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Speaker 4: just no different than sports, right, like be a sponge man. Yeah,

527
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Speaker 4: just soak up whatever you can, like, don't stress yourself

528
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Speaker 4: out because when I started, I knew nothing about paint

529
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Speaker 4: at all. Wow, Like I knew my dad worked for sure,

530
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Speaker 4: and that was it. That was Yet I couldn't tell

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Speaker 4: you a difference between paints, brushes, any of that stuff.

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Speaker 4: So all of it's pretty much been self taught or

533
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Speaker 4: through our training. Like but I just I hate not

534
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Speaker 4: knowing things right. So I'm that guy who will go home.

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Speaker 4: I hear Bingo talk about a hydrophobic coding, I'm like,

536
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Speaker 4: all right, I'm gonna look up all these hydrophobic codings

537
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Speaker 4: out there.

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Speaker 1: Like you know how many times I have to google

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Speaker 1: things that he says on the show because I'm like

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Speaker 1: and and not even Nascar stuff. I'm talking about like

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Speaker 1: real life stuff and home improvement. And I laugh. People

542
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Speaker 1: are like asking me in a grocery I go to

543
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Speaker 1: pick and say, They're like, hey, if I need new roofing, Dwight,

544
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, what do you listen to the show?

545
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Speaker 1: Do you listen to the music it's fan for for

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Speaker 1: the common man called Bingo, call Randy Miller.

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Speaker 2: Those are the guys because you know this stuff, County

548
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Speaker 2: gets advertised that who's coming on?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: So I got a question, right, So I can't wait

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Speaker 2: for his answers. Bathroom question. I got a bathroom feeling

552
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Speaker 2: paint question. I need him answer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna get to a break. We're gonna start

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Speaker 1: with that, so you better do the the answer if

555
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Speaker 1: you got to start googling. Now, I got my tea.

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Speaker 1: There you go, he's.

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Speaker 2: Well, you'll be looking, where's the ceiling on the house?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? That I got I'm pretty good at that. He

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Speaker 1: is Parker Schnei Tinsky. He is with Sherwin Williams five

560
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Speaker 1: years experience, and I can tell you I've got a

561
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Speaker 1: zillion questions for him, not only with paint, but how

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Speaker 1: to choose the right prime for their wall and what

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Speaker 1: should that people should do? And this time of year,

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Speaker 1: you know, can you you can't paint outside but the

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Speaker 1: walls are cold. Man, We'll Parker's gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: answer all of those. And I know that Bryce is

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Speaker 1: probably listening. She's awfully proud, not bad for the first segment,

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Speaker 1: young man. This is the Creative Construction Wisconsin Home Improvement

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Speaker 1: Show on Fox Sports nine twenty and your iHeart Radio app.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Creative Construction Wisconsin Homi Improvement Show

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports nine twenty.

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Speaker 2: Spencer got that thing that's long done good.

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Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite I love this time of

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Speaker 1: year because I get to play all my bumper music.

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Speaker 1: After the first year, Spencer gets back to take control.

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Speaker 1: But I give them a list. I give them a list,

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Speaker 1: and these are the kind of songs you can hear

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Speaker 1: if you go over to Brooks Side Baptist Church looking

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Speaker 1: for a local church. Parker, you're right down the block

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Speaker 1: our special guest in studio. Look he is, he's moving

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Speaker 1: up to chain sureman Williams. But he is richest son

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Speaker 1: and he is Bryce's husband, and I love that, Hey, Parker.

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Speaker 1: Before we go, I went to a break. I know

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Speaker 1: Bingo has gotten a couple of text messages regarding bathroom ceilings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bathroom ceilings, hear it? Yeah, Well they said a

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Speaker 2: paint keeps peeling in their bathroom. What painter do they

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Speaker 2: use to fix it?

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Speaker 4: So, I'd say very common with bathrooms, honestly. Usually my

589
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Speaker 4: first questions from there is is there a window in

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Speaker 4: the bathroom? Is there a ceiling fan? Because if you

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Speaker 4: don't have those, you really can't ventilate your bathroom. So

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Speaker 4: if you're like me and you like to take a

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Speaker 4: nice twenty minute shower with a negative five out, sure

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Speaker 4: bathroom gets all steamy if you have nowhere for that

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Speaker 4: steam to go, Usually it's just going to absorb up

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Speaker 4: into the ceiling. Talking with even concrete or stucco coatings, Basically,

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Speaker 4: that moisture gets behind that paint film. Once it evaporates

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Speaker 4: down the road, it can be a week, it can

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Speaker 4: be six months. All of a sudden you start getting bubbles,

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Speaker 4: starts peeling off. So really a lot of times it's

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Speaker 4: kind of the environment that it's in. Now, if you

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Speaker 4: have a ceiling fan, you have a window and you

603
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Speaker 4: open it, you have the fan running, it's still peeling paint.

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Speaker 4: The best way I say it is paint is not smart.

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Speaker 4: You know, Paint's just paint, right, So if something like

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Speaker 4: that's going on and the conditions are right, there's usually

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Speaker 4: an underlying issue. But now to answer your question, like

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Speaker 4: maybe you don't have a ceiling fan in there so

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Speaker 4: you can't really ventilate it. We have an interior line

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Speaker 4: called our Duration Home. Basically it's a moisture and mildy

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Speaker 4: resistant coating, so for bathrooms, kitchens, powder rooms.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what they have. The question is that

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Speaker 2: they want to know what kind of paint should they use?

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Speaker 4: YEP, So with that, I'd say our Duration interior line.

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Speaker 1: Should they prime the walls?

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Speaker 4: So if you're having any issues on your walls, whether

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Speaker 4: it's INTI your exterior, I always recommend priming. People don't

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Speaker 4: think it's always necessary. But take it from someone who

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Speaker 4: sells paint and has finally bought a house so he's learning.

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Speaker 1: How to paint. There you go.

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Speaker 2: It makes a difference, man, Okay, prime, I just like

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Speaker 2: you know, prime is so important that when we do

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Speaker 2: a job, people say you don't have to prime and

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Speaker 2: paint it. We primate no matter what, because I just don't. Ye,

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Speaker 2: I don't trust the homeowner or a lot of contracts

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Speaker 2: to use the right primer for paint because you know,

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Speaker 2: you got the PHR plaster as long and we can

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Speaker 2: talk about that. But yeah, if you don't, if you

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Speaker 2: don't reduce that, the paint, it just it bleeds through.

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Speaker 1: Hey, if people ask you how to choose the right

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Speaker 1: paint color for their home, is that just a personal option?

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Speaker 1: Like I think everything should be kelly green. That's just

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Speaker 1: that whole Irish saying mcgiffern and O'faehi, my wife's mad

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Speaker 1: or my my my mom's maiden name. Yeah, everything should

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Speaker 1: be kelly green. However, I don't I know everybody's gonna

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Speaker 1: have the same feeling I have with that. But if

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Speaker 1: people come into your stores, you're your your guys working

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Speaker 1: in there, and Gal's working.

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Speaker 2: There, well, go over by the chart and pick one out.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever see the chart?

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Speaker 4: Oh, there's five thousands over there. But as much direction

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Speaker 4: is go find some out in the cornfield.

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Speaker 1: I need. I need somebody to give me three options,

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Speaker 1: right that that for men. My final decision and stuff

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Speaker 1: is always maybe right. So we had to pick out

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Speaker 1: the hardware for new cabinets at a home that over

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Speaker 1: on eighty eighth Street, and I'm not kidding. I ended

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Speaker 1: up going to the car and in the fetal position,

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Speaker 1: it said to my wife, you just I don't care

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Speaker 1: what you pick. Pick something. I can't do this. There

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Speaker 1: was five similar to paint colors, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: colors look the same to me, right, eggshell and whatever.

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Speaker 1: It all looks kind of similar. And for me to

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Speaker 1: make decision, I need somebody educated to be able to

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Speaker 1: go look. If I were you, I would look at this,

656
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: this family of color and maybe here are three options.

657
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: Pick one of these.

658
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: And there's problem. Even somebody's like, well what color would

659
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: you want the ceiling?

660
00:28:59,720 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

661
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: Some kind of white? You know white.

662
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 3: There's not just a couple of whites, man, there's like

663
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 3: a hundred whites.

664
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: And how do you do you help people? Through that

665
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: process to do the people at your store that the

666
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: new story that's gonna open up in Franklin that you're

667
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: gonna run. If people come in and have that question,

668
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: how do I choose the right paint color for my home?

669
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: Can you guys work with them and step them through

670
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: that process.

671
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 4: Absolutely? I mean, honestly a lot of times kind of

672
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 4: go back to your point. It is personal preference. It's

673
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 4: your home. Like I can have my two cents on it,

674
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 4: but that's what I like. It doesn't mean you're gonna

675
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 4: like the colors I picked.

676
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: I can tell you someth too, something that they do

677
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: it that we like. They'll sell you small sample cams

678
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 2: to try it, because a little swatch looks a different

679
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: thing when you do it. When you paint apart next

680
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: to a window instead of frame like I s, they'll say,

681
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: you know you can't. It's really cheap.

682
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean even like again, like our color chips,

683
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 4: it's paper. I mean, when you put the sample or

684
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 4: a paint on, it's gonna look a little more identical.

685
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 4: But when people hold up a piece of paper and

686
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 4: they're like, it's not the exact same, you know, paring applest.

687
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: Orangers you know, without interrupting them anyways. That's like when

688
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: you do when you paint something that's textured, and it's

689
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: way different than it is when it's on flat. Yeah,

690
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: changes the whole. It's like, hold up, you could take

691
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: a flat piece, you can paint a while flat, and

692
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: you paint the while that's texture next with the same color,

693
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: and people think you get two different color paints.

694
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: And Parker guys like me, who can't. I can't see

695
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: it until it's fully done. Like I don't have that gift.

696
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: It's so if we paint three different lines and use okay,

697
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: rather than taking the piece of paper and putting it there,

698
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: I still can't and I have to. I either am

699
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: working with somebody that can kind of guide me through it,

700
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: or my wife has a pretty good eye with with colors.

701
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: Do you find that you're working more with with the

702
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: women for the home or the man.

703
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 3: Or every single time?

704
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: Really?

705
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean on the weekends.

706
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: I've seen it so many times where mom and dad

707
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 4: come in with the kid. We're again we're helping them

708
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 4: with colors, kind of figuring out what they're looking for.

709
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 4: I'm no different than you, Mike, where I've done the

710
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 4: with with my wife. At this point, as we remodeled

711
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 4: our bathroom. After thirty minutes, the husband's like, you work

712
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 4: with her, help her pick a color. For the love of.

713
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: God, yes, please, please, and please there the final this is,

714
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to be at the sports bar next door

715
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: watching the ball game. Please send a when you're done.

716
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: When we used to have that little showroom up in

717
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: and told for a while, uh, that's what we did.

718
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: It was like, just if you come here without your wife,

719
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: bring a note.

720
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: Bring a note, Yeah, bring out.

721
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: That saying you have permission to pick stuff out.

722
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: If your weapon is not in your jacket, because you're

723
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: not getting in.

724
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: If you come in and.

725
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 4: Your wife is not there and we're looking for colors,

726
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: one of my first questions is usually is there someone

727
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 4: else that is probably gonna want to help you with

728
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 4: this decision? And they're like, yep, I need to bring

729
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 4: these back and have her take a peek at them.

730
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Hey, and I got a text. The

731
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: best finish, the best paint finish for different rooms? Is

732
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: there for you know, a different paint finish for the

733
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: bathroom than it would be for the kitchen. Yep, would

734
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: be for the bedroom. When you tell when people ask

735
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: you what's the best finish for different rooms, what do

736
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: you tell them?

737
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 3: So it's kind of a multifaceted answer.

738
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: I would say it is personal preference because really, when

739
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 4: I hear finish, like, we call it sheen on our side. Okay,

740
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 4: Really what that means is basically just the level of

741
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 4: shine you'll see when you put the paint on the walls.

742
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 4: So if you're in a bathroom or kitchen and again

743
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 4: you get grease on it, you get moisture on or steam,

744
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 4: you want to be able to wipe it down. You

745
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 4: want something that has a little shine, like a satin

746
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 4: or eggshell, because it's a little more washable, a little

747
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 4: more durable. You can scrub it a lot easier. Now,

748
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 4: if you're doing a ceiling, you're never touching it up.

749
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 4: Stuff's not getting up there. You can put a flat

750
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 4: pain on there because it hides better. You're not going

751
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 4: to see him perfections. But now then you get to

752
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 4: trim cabinets. Some people like that duller look, which is

753
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 4: still kind of a satin. Some people like a little

754
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 4: more shine, which is a semi gloss.

755
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: So a lot of too many options for a guy

756
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: like me.

757
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got colors right now, what kind of sheine

758
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: do you want?

759
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 4: You?

760
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a whole yeah, back in the fetal position

761
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: for for sure.

762
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 4: The worst part about that, and this is across the

763
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 4: entire industry when we talk finish, everyone has different names

764
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 4: for their finish, whether it's Holman Bend for Moore Sherwin Williams.

765
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 4: You kind of have your standard flat eggshell, semi gloss,

766
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 4: and then you have velvet, then you have matt and

767
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 4: then you have pearl and all these.

768
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: But the finish makes a difference too. If you take

769
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: if you paint a semi gloss finish over something that's flat,

770
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: it sticks all over. Yeah, the same thing the other

771
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: way too. Right, It's like you know, you run over

772
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: to the box store, you get a paint matched up, right,

773
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: and so I want this because it's like this paints

774
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: on sales great matches up and machine doesn't match.

775
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: Is this is?

776
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: This is it's a bad patch that sticks out.

777
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: And look if if if you're going to a big

778
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: box store just going to just pick a paint because

779
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: you want the color, look, I would go, I would

780
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: go visit you. I would wait until the Franklin store

781
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: opened up. And I'd come over and I would ask

782
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: you to help me with it. Because if you think

783
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: you're going to just go to one of the big

784
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: box stores and just pick a color, if it's not eggshell,

785
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: or if it's not a semi gloss or high gloss

786
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: or whatever it should be for that room, and you

787
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: don't have anybody educated there, that's the key for me. Look,

788
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: I've got a brother in law of that works for

789
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: home depot and heat, and he knows a lot about

790
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: a lot of things when it comes to the exact

791
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: type of paint and the kind of finish you need

792
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: for a different room. If you if you painted with

793
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: with that that finish for your kitchen and really liked

794
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: it and it worked well for you, it's just going

795
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: to be a different product if you use it in

796
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: the bathroom, yep, exactly. And to have somebody educated in

797
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 1: it that's gone through that's the other part. Look, Bingo's

798
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: big in further education, right, whatever you're in and what

799
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: you do. My gosh, every year it's coming out with

800
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: new cross, new this, and.

801
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 4: New new colors, new tools, new stuff for our contractors.

802
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 4: Like even we were talking picking colors, right, Actually, something

803
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 4: that we have We have a few mobile apps, but

804
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 4: we have one. You can take a picture of your bathroom,

805
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 4: go through the colors. It'll throw the color.

806
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 3: On the wall in that image.

807
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 4: So if you're not a guy who wants to put

808
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 4: a sample on, have a little color card there. You

809
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 4: can see it on your phone. Now again it's your phone,

810
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 4: so it's it'll be close like it's not going to

811
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 4: be exact exact, but then there's a different way there.

812
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 4: I mean even with AI Now honestly, I have contractors

813
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 4: who will take they'll do renderings.

814
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 3: Through chat GBT. They'll take a picture of a home.

815
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 4: They know what the customer wants for colors really throw

816
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 4: it in there and say, hey, can you make this

817
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 4: house have the trim look like this and the body

818
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 4: look like this?

819
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: You know, like your life big o' when when people go, look,

820
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: this is what for the Molly who we had in

821
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: last week that her stuck out on the back of

822
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: her house was falling off and she was able to

823
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: get a picture of what it looked like back in

824
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: the day. Come to you guys, and and Aaron and

825
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: and he matched it identical but similar to to what

826
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: Parker has to go through. Can you match this color

827
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: you guys go through every day. It's it's hard, man.

828
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 2: That's a that's what a specialty that you get what

829
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: you because you don't get that from a box store.

830
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I want to rip on them

831
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 2: because you know they're trying. But I mean there's people

832
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: that you know one hundred and some years. You know,

833
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: they've been around longer than Creative it's been around us.

834
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: Well, look I can if Parker doesn't know the answer,

835
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: and nobody at the Franklin store is going to know what,

836
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: he can call Rich Richel. Hey, Rich'll work part time

837
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 1: for you know he's he's saying, don't say that mcgiffer.

838
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: Rich might come out retirement, work part time for you, Franklin.

839
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: Can you imagine, Dad, you were three minutes late. I

840
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: got a docuy paycheck. That's what I'm just like that

841
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: as a conflict of interest. Yeah, yeah, you're going to

842
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: walk a shop health You've been here a day, but

843
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm transferring you to walk a show from Wakashatnosha.

844
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: Every day you'll learn his lesson.

845
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: You'll learn his lesson. Oh man, you tell me he

846
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: will learn it. We got to get to a break

847
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: other side of the break will continue. I look, I

848
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: not only was your baseball player, and I love the

849
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: fact that he played over Marquette High for sal Bando Junior.

850
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: One of my favorite guys. By the way, does a

851
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: nice job with that program. Oh my gosh, man, like

852
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: he's forgotten more about baseball than we know.

853
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred percent.

854
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 4: Like I mean, Sale came in after Wilke did and

855
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 4: ran a great program, and Sale did such a phenomenal job.

856
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 4: I mean I invited Sale to my wedding man, like

857
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 4: his brother was my agent, Like I'm I talked to

858
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 4: Sale still to this day. He's one of my favorite humans.

859
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 4: I mean, he's how I got to Saint Louis. Like,

860
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 4: so I want to make sure I get my two cents,

861
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 4: like he did a lot for me personally.

862
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: If he needs a little discoud of then some paint,

863
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: he knows who to call.

864
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, if he goes, if he goes and pays retail price,

865
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 4: that's because he didn't call me, so Sale called me.

866
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: There you go. He's been so kind to me because

867
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: I do a high school baseball show during the summer,

868
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: and he's been really kind to come in and answer

869
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: questions for me. M On that show.

870
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 2: You gotta get some stories about Parker. So for next trust.

871
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: Me, you get me in here, No just getting I

872
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: might just get him in here to talk about what

873
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: you were liking at mark Hill.

874
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: Have a good one. He still tells kids about when

875
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 3: he benched me.

876
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: John Peter will be my gush. That's what we'll do.

877
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: He is Parker Snitinsky. He is with Sherwin Williams five years,

878
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: and he is after the first of the year when

879
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 1: that Franklin New Franklin store, when's that going open?

880
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 4: So right now we're slotted to open January second, So

881
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 4: after New Year's Yes, we're we're getting there quick. I

882
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 4: mean I'm going there today to take a peek at it.

883
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 4: They're doing the build out right now.

884
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: So he goes New Year's resolution is to get his

885
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: the indoor of his house painted. I think that's what said.

886
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: He'll be there in Franklin. I'll say what happens my know.

887
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: YouTube, nor should you? Nor should you?

888
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: This is like only color Wheel can paint it. I

889
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 2: mean she is really specific.

890
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: As long as they you Shewan Williams painted, It's okay,

891
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: no problem right there. That Hey, we'll get to you

892
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: a break other side of the break again, Parker Sneaitinsky

893
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: from Shearan Williams. What really great guest. I got a

894
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: number of questions for him. We're gonna talk exterior on

895
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: the other side of the break. It's too cold to

896
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: paint now, but springtime people are going to be painting,

897
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: and let's make sure we give him some good information.

898
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: Also, paint in a groage, never mind, is right?

899
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? Never mind? Put it in the basement where fee. Yeah,

900
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: it will look at There's good information right there. This

901
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: is the Creative Construction Wisconsin Home Improvement Show on Fox

902
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: Sports nine twenty and your iHeart Radio app. Welcome back

903
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: to the Creative Construction Wisconsin Home Improvement Show, coming live

904
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: from the Donovan and Jorgensen Heating and Cooling Studios. I'm

905
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: Mike McGivern alongside Bingo Emmons. He is the owner of

906
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: Creative Construction of Wisconsin. Our special guest in studio man,

907
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm a fan. Hey, you know what he He can

908
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: talk about hitting a curveball, and he can talk about

909
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: what colors you should use for your living room. He

910
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: is Parker Snaitinsky from Sherwin Williams. Hey, different types of

911
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: businesses that that you deal with your you're more of

912
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: a on the retail side, some more like the residential side. Yep.

913
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 4: So if you have like if you need someone to

914
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 4: paint your interior, paint your exterior like handyman modelers, that's

915
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 4: the bulk of who I deal with. I know Bingo's

916
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 4: mentioned like color Wheel painting out of Brookfield, Like they

917
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 4: do cabinets, high end residential work. So that's that's the

918
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 4: bulk bulk of my contractors. Now I have people who

919
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 4: do who are specific cabinet shops. They build cabinets, send

920
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 4: them out to new builds and river Hills Mechwan, like

921
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 4: the really really nice.

922
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: Spots of the area.

923
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 4: I work with commercial contractors, so doing warehouses, buildouts. But

924
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 4: we have a bunch of different reps that work with different.

925
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 2: Asus, different products. You know, I'll just throw one out

926
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: there in a dairy state. I mean, like, if you're

927
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: painting the interior of a cheese factory, that's gonna be

928
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: that's a different product and just grabbing some paint off

929
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: the shelf.

930
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 4: So if Bingo called me and said, hey, we're got

931
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 4: this job. We're painting the interior of a dairy factory,

932
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 4: I am calling a couple of people to make sure

933
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 4: because then you have different specifications. It's probably a USDA facility.

934
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 4: Like so there are times where it's, for lack of

935
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 4: a better term, I need to get the right people

936
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 4: involved because if I mess that up, I get paid

937
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 4: every two weeks.

938
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 3: But that's going to really put Bingo in a hole

939
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 3: for his business.

940
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: Hey, we I wanted to talk just a couple of

941
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: questions on the exterior. Obviously you can't paint this time

942
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 1: of year. Would you highly recommend not doing? Thank you? Yeah,

943
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: there you go. That's about as honest as you can

944
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: get people, it seems to me, at least with with

945
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 1: the circles I run in. People talk a lot about

946
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: trying to paint brick, right a brinck home, brick home?

947
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: Can can? Did you recommend that? And that's a whole

948
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: different animal right.

949
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 4: A little bit. So, I mean, you can paint brick

950
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 4: just fine. Now, what I usually say with it, and

951
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 4: Bingal I think has kind of gone on this too,

952
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 4: is like whether it's a hydro phoba coating or even

953
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 4: like a solid stain, because with concrete, stucco, any real masonry,

954
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 4: you need to let it breathe so you can paint it.

955
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 4: It'll it'll last, it'll hold up, but eventually it will

956
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 4: peel because paint's just it's a film on it. Moisture's

957
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 4: gonna penetrate at some point, versus different hydrophobic coatings, different

958
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 4: stains that lets the concrete breathe. So usually I'm going

959
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 4: to recommend a solid stain before a paint. But then

960
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 4: that's where I talk to my contractor maybe talk to

961
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 4: the homeowner kind of just see what they're looking for,

962
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 4: make sure it fits the bill for them. But usually

963
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 4: I start with something that's gonna let the stucco concrete breathe.

964
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 4: Paint's usually my last one I go to for that.

965
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: Hey, it's so trends and I don't know if you know,

966
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: and we didn't talk about this and I didn't tee

967
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: up for it. But look, gray was the big color

968
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: for a long time, and is there is there trends

969
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 1: that you see coming used to look for a while

970
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: there people were painting, like using different colors for the

971
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: ceiling and then the walls, and that was big for

972
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: a while. And Mike Maxon said that's kind of gone

973
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: away a little bit. Wallpaper's big again. There's a lot

974
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: of trends that you guys have to be on top of.

975
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: Is there colors you see coming that maybe in our

976
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: area in the Midwest, people haven't caught on that this

977
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,959
Speaker 1: is kind of the next big Yeah.

978
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 4: So I think just color specifically, the last four or

979
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 4: five years, they've been a lot of like softer tone

980
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 4: colors like light blue, kind of like a lighter army green,

981
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 4: almost like a light clay red. Really been kind of

982
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 4: the trendy ones now one of the big ones I've seen,

983
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 4: And Mike Madison's been a good one to refer on

984
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 4: this one or a lot of my bigger accounts like

985
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 4: and I use their infhoto kind of hear what's happening

986
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 4: in the market for a lot of homes.

987
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: A lot of people, like we.

988
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 4: Said, gray on the walls, white trim. A lot of

989
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 4: people are starting to get back. They really like wallpaper,

990
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 4: They like that stained would work look. So a lot

991
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 4: of that old school feel is really starting to kind

992
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 4: of make a comeback in the Midwest.

993
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: Do you guys do about your wallpaper?

994
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 3: We do, yep.

995
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 4: So, I mean we do commercial final that we sell

996
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 4: to a lot of our contractors.

997
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 3: Some of our.

998
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 4: Stores have wallpaper books in there, so like we do

999
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 4: do it for sure, but again it's making sure we're

1000
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 4: taking the right measurements with the homeowner with a contractor,

1001
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 4: because last thing we need is someone putting up some wallpaper.

1002
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: They run short, we got to order it. Now their

1003
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 3: job's going back.

1004
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: And they're not happy and they are not happy.

1005
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 4: So again the education piece and really just asking the

1006
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 4: right question.

1007
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: I to get wallpaper off was always just the worst.

1008
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 3: It is awful.

1009
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's awful. It's just you know what, and people

1010
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: I know people that paint over wallpaper because they don't

1011
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: want to take it. You can do it, you can

1012
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: do it, you can do it. They don't want to

1013
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 1: take it down. They don't want to take it down.

1014
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: And I just.

1015
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: May've actually plastered over the wall paper, you know, you know,

1016
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: he kills it and you can actually plaster over wallpaper.

1017
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: We do it once. They just don't want to deal with.

1018
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: It, so we just rip it down.

1019
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: Damage the drywall just becomes a lot.

1020
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: The questions for you on on eco friendly paint options, Uh,

1021
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: not a ton, but I do get them from time

1022
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: to time. Now, I'd say in the in the commercial landscape,

1023
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: without a doubt, that is a very big thing for

1024
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: like low VOC coatings. There's a couple of different certifications

1025
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: nationally out there, like one's MPI Green Guard where it

1026
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: basically says this is a low VOC like a not

1027
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: very toxic paint, not a lot of fumes. So for

1028
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: commercial landscapes, when you have different facilities, they're a lot

1029
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: more keyed into the eco friendly paints. Hey, with this

1030
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: new house, Temunami follows if you're going to do more painting,

1031
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: who picks the color? You were? Bryce?

1032
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 3: I think we know the answer, Yes we do.

1033
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: Hey, Bryce, you know what he said during the break

1034
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: is for Christmas, He's getting you like paint and paint

1035
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: brushes and all rollers wrapped up.

1036
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: I'll be painting some trim tonight.

1037
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: Hey, last question, and I'm sorry because I've got a

1038
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: hundred of them. We got to get you back in here.

1039
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: But how important is the right material and the right

1040
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 1: like the right paint brush and the right roller. And

1041
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: to go to one of the big box stores and

1042
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: spend four dollars on a bag of five.

1043
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: You ever like? You ever like talk to Okay, e's

1044
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: an answer. Ask them what kind of paint brush you

1045
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: should use? And then then what kind of paint youre using.

1046
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: They just go on and on.

1047
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: Never mind, Oh you're you must be fun at parties.

1048
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: Nowadays Bryce hates it.

1049
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 3: I need you to stop the work talk for the

1050
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 3: love of guy.

1051
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: But having the right having the right tools is very important.

1052
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and like don't get me wrong, especially with online ordering,

1053
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 4: there are a lot of very cost effective ways to

1054
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 4: go about it.

1055
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: Now.

1056
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 4: Certain ones they're consuming balls, you throw them away, no

1057
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 4: big deal. If you're doing a high end home and

1058
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 4: o'connom walk mechwan. They have a standard that they want.

1059
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 4: If you're not, if you're short in yourself on materials,

1060
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 4: kind of cheaping out there.

1061
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 3: I've seen it where it does not go well.

1062
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 4: Not saying you need to spend the pretty penny on everything,

1063
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 4: but yes, the right materials, right brush, roller, even tape,

1064
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 4: those make a big difference. Put the wrong tape on

1065
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 4: your new hard hardwood floors, you pull it up all

1066
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 4: of a sudden that finish has an adhesive on it

1067
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 4: and you can't get it all.

1068
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: In the old days, we just buy masking tape. Now different,

1069
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: two day, three day, different.

1070
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 3: There's a billion different tapes.

1071
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 4: But really the big thing, I would say, even outside

1072
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 4: materials prep is the king. I'm going to go back

1073
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 4: to paint's not smart. But if you just throw paint

1074
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 4: on the walls sometimes it will be fine. But prepping it's.

1075
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 3: The big one.

1076
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 2: Always. Well, our stuff is good to what you stick to.

1077
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: His pain is only as good as what your surface.

1078
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to get him back in because the

1079
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: preparation part is all the all the questions I had,

1080
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: but I went along on the whole baseball and sal

1081
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: Bando thing.

1082
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: I think we need to bring his wife into, Yeah,

1083
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 2: coming in.

1084
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: I want Rich too. I want Rich coming in. Yeah,

1085
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: I want your dad coming in because I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what he has forgotten more about the paint industry than you,

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Speaker 1: and I'll ever know. You might have to put a

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Speaker 1: muzzle on him. Yeah, no, no, I want him full baby.

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Speaker 1: He is Parkerson Schneitinsky from Sheerwin Williams. Hey, Merry Christmas,

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Speaker 1: Junior family. It's really good to meet you. Merry Christmas

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Speaker 1: to you guys as well. Appreciate you all having me on.

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Speaker 1: You got it, Bingo, have a good week. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you don't have a prey today. Oh man, you'd beat

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Speaker 1: Those cookies have been frozen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll just be handing out frozen cookies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. Have a good week, guys. This

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Speaker 1: is the Creative Construction Wisconsin home improvement show. I'm Fox

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