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I've 10 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: not seen any official designation. 11 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: The updated status report that came out about four hours ago. 12 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: He's a fish listed as questionable. Yeah, along with Jalen Clark, 13 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: who's sick and Finch. He'll tell us in about an 14 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: hour and a half. My I think. 15 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: Most, I mean the betting money is that he's going 16 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 3: to play. I'll be more surprised if he no. Obviously, 17 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: if there's a setbacker he's not ready, then you don't 18 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 3: play him. But I think questionable as an upgrade from 19 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: where he was, so I will be surprised if he 20 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 3: doesn't play. It's the it's the second game. Is this 21 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 3: a national doubleheader? Tonight or is it just a late game. 22 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: I think it's a triple header tonight. Oh is that 23 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: right on Amazon? 24 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 2: I believe. 25 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: Let me pull up the sketch Amazon ninety. I'm pretty 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: sure this is an Amazon one. 27 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: I need to know from our very aerodite and sophisticated audience, 28 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: and this doesn't include fallness. 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: It's a doubleheader Philly New York is the first game 30 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: in US on Amazon Prime. 31 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: So if you have those are our audience who've watched 32 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: a decent this is maybe a steady diet, or at 33 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: least enough of the games that have taken place on 34 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: Amazon or Peacock to tell me what you think of 35 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: the broadcast, not so much whether the games you happen 36 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 3: to watch were good or ended up being good or 37 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: bad or whatever. 38 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: Do you like the broadcast? 39 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 3: Does it feel different because it's just a different network 40 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 3: and different people, or does it feel different because the 41 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: approach seems different to analysis, to pregame, to halftime. 42 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: To postgame. 43 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: I said early that I thought the departure was pretty significant, 44 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: And that doesn't mean I honestarily loved every one of the broadcasters, 45 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: but I felt like it was almost as if there 46 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 3: was a concerted effort to say, we're going to go 47 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 3: at this quite differently. We're going to be less concerned 48 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 3: about creating debate and or fire and brimstone on a 49 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 3: regular basis, and we're just gonna talk basketball. We're gonna analyze, 50 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: We're gonna look at this from an adult perspective, because. 51 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. 52 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 3: I know what the early reviews were, but I haven't 53 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: paid attention late and I haven't watched that many games 54 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: lately period. 55 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 2: The question, I do think. 56 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: Some of the some of the reason it feels refreshing 57 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: is simply because it's people we're not accustomed to seeing 58 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: year after year, day after day, month after month, decade 59 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: after decade. And you know, imitation, it's the sincerest form 60 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: of flattery, but it also breeds contempt, and so sometimes 61 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: we just get tired of how the same people over 62 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 3: and over again. I'm kind of curious to hear what 63 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: people think. Meantime, it's time for Cafe to take a 64 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: big swing, speaking of big swings, and sign garbigement to 65 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: a huge contract extension. They want a contract extension. I'm 66 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: gerby now. I had was it last week or the 67 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: week before? I retweeted two consecutive tweets, one basically saying 68 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 3: I'm sick of him. 69 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: Yep, stop having him on. It's over. 70 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: It was a good run, but it's over. And then 71 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 3: the next person basically found the Gershon appearances as a 72 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: religious experience, and don't you dare ever stop having Karl 73 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: Gertschmann on just to. 74 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: Just to give you the range. 75 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 4: And I did so. 76 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 2: I didn't want to. 77 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: Just retweet the one that made us look good. I 78 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 3: was saying, Okay, I'll throw it out. I'll you know, 79 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 3: both extremes. I guess you could say it back out there. 80 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: As Gerby said, Paul Allen was described he's polarizing. Gerby 81 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: at times is polarized. 82 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: True. 83 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: I think rapping Gerby should be pretty universally liked, because 84 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: that was unbelievable Rappingby that was I. 85 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: Didn't and like you said, I that was not wasn't 86 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: anything that in the pre production meeting they'll talk to 87 00:04:58,720 --> 00:04:59,559 Speaker 3: you about with Carl. 88 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 2: No. 89 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: I believe that he got third place in that Western 90 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: Wisconsin rap ballot contest all those years we'd like to 91 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: know about first and second. I would too. I would 92 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: too from that perspective. I'm looking forward to this article 93 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 1: too in the Start t I can't. 94 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 3: Wait he breaks the story that, uh, Jim Beam actually 95 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: John Breen called him up, asked for an interview, and 96 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: apparently Gerby granted an interview with longtime rock critic at 97 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 3: the Start Tribune John breeb I'm still trying to figure 98 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 3: out the hook or the angles exactly. So that's got 99 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: most of my SERI assumption is he said he talked 100 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 3: to him within the last day or two, right, So 101 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 3: I'm I'm assuming over the weekend. 102 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: But I don't know. 103 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 3: The way the Start Evening drops stories now in the 104 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 3: Internet age is it's hard to follow what the threat 105 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 3: of logic is if there is any logic. So I 106 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,559 Speaker 3: but my guess it'll be is it will be sometime 107 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 3: over the weekend or concert. How about photos? Hey did 108 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: did he did? Did Jim Beam ask for any photos? 109 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: I don't know that. I didn't. I don't think that 110 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 2: was a style bush and I just spilled coffee on mean, 111 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: that's just great. Be careful keep it away from the equipment. Yeah, 112 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 2: better on me. I guess in the equipment those are 113 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: new cameras. We've got new microphones within the last couple 114 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: of years. 115 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 116 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 2: Well, a lot of investments here. Be careful. 117 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 3: Are we done with the studio investment or are we 118 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 3: going to something else there? 119 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 2: What's the latest do we know? 120 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: You mean, like, why isn't that wall that wall? I 121 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: mean the unfinished wall. It seems like we just hit 122 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: like a I feel like we hit yeah, like a. 123 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: Well it's a long pause. 124 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: Now, Well you've had people work on your house as before, right, Yeah, 125 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: you start a projects sometimes back to it. 126 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, very true, Davy. 127 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: Let's let's we got Ben Gestling at the bottom of 128 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 3: the hour. Let's get in a little more depth about 129 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 3: Wolves Okie City tonight. I again, you look right now, 130 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 3: I think the Wolves. The interest in the Wolves is 131 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: going to be solid because they're coming off two straight 132 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 3: Final Four appearances. So I'm not saying it's evaporating, but 133 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: I feel like it's kind of light right now. I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, 134 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 3: I watch because that's what I do, and I happen 135 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: to like pro basketball. But and I don't want to 136 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: turn this into a competition between the Wild and the Wolves, 137 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: no question. Right now, the Wild are more with it 138 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: than Wild because it's newer. But the Wild have not 139 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: yet come close to accomplishing what the Wolves did the 140 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 3: last two postseasons, so we'll get into a little bit 141 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 3: of that of expectations for the Wolves and a thunder 142 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: game tonight, and then prepare to chat with Guessling about 143 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 3: four thirty. 144 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: Hockey fans. 145 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: The IIHF World Junior Championship is set to take over 146 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: the state of hockey, and we've got your tickets to 147 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: the action all week long. 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Who is the former 161 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 3: Clipper Griffin. 162 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: I think he's really good. He's good. I like him 163 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: a lot. 164 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 3: I think again, I don't know how many games he 165 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: does as opposed to studio or what the what the 166 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: breakdown is? Novinsky is involved in some of this as well. 167 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: Yep, Steve Nash. How has the experiment gone? 168 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: Is it? 169 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 3: I think just Peacock is doing this thing where on 170 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:14,359 Speaker 3: a given game, the sidekick, the analyst, the color analyst 171 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 3: sits on the bench, not next to play by play 172 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: guy or gal. 173 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: Any word on. I mean that sounds a bit gimmicky 174 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 2: to me. 175 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: Do you get something extra being on the bench other 176 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: than saying you're on the bench. Is it as easy 177 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 3: to be as honest if you're on the bench and 178 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: you're ripping strategy from that team? 179 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: Does that get a little bit uncomfortable? 180 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: These are the questions I need answers to bratchaw on 181 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: Brian Kafan text line six four, six eighty six. I 182 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: also want to know if you're on your way to Wolves, 183 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 3: Oklahoma City tonight to the fan, it's a late start tonight. 184 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 3: We are the second game of the What did you 185 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 3: tell me? This was Prime video Prime Video double Amazon 186 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 3: double header, with the first game being the Knicks and 187 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 3: the Sixers. Yes, nixt to just of course won the Cup. 188 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 3: In fact, didn't that. I thought they just played somebody 189 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 3: else since then already when was it? 190 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 4: What? 191 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: What was the what night was the Cup title game? Round? Yeah? No, Monday, 192 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: it was Wednesday. Oh, I think the companies playing another game. 193 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: They may have. I'll pull up their schedule game in 194 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: case there'd be a lot of games in a row. 195 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: If if, if that's true, because it's the Cup, because 196 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 3: it's the Cup, I guess that might answer it. 197 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 4: You know. 198 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: It's like, I think a lot of people are looking 199 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: at this. Okay, well, here's the opportunity for the Wolves 200 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: to sort of re establish themselves as one of the 201 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 3: threats again in the Western Conference. I'm not sure you 202 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: do that with any single game this early in the season, 203 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 3: but I guess you do have to start somewhere. You 204 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 3: got to get on the board, yeah, if if you 205 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 3: want to sort of get the feeling within the even 206 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: within the room, that we're we're heading towards something. You know, 207 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 3: you mentioned this yesterday. I like a lot of people, 208 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: I love Finchy's honesty, but there is occasionally that desire 209 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 3: to push back when he's like, well, I don't know, 210 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know what we're doing with the 211 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 3: offense was awful. We make bad decisions a whotle bit 212 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: that it is. You know, he's he didn't just get 213 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 3: here five minutes ago. It is his team. And so 214 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 3: I don't know how many times you go to the 215 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: well with that. And the subject came up. We've talked 216 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 3: about it before. The subject came up after the Memphis 217 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: game that this was another one of those occasions when 218 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: Finchy needed to call more plays and he doesn't. You know, 219 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: he's loathed to calling plays. He's free wheeling guy, free 220 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 3: rhythm guy. Just he doesn't want to like the word flow. 221 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: He does like the word flow. We all like flow. 222 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: But I'm still not sure you can trust some of 223 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 3: the players in this flow enough. And if it's it's 224 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: once again, isn't your responsibility if it's going that bad 225 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: to say we're structuring it up for a while for 226 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: the next five minutes, I'm gonna call a decent number 227 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 3: of plays. I don't know what the answer is to that, 228 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: but it's at least you know. Part of the difficulty 229 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 3: in evaluating the Wolves is their record. What are we 230 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: are We still in the sixth spot or we slipped 231 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: to seven our sus standings. 232 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been we're pretty clear of Phoenix. For seven. 233 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: I think we're three games ahead of Phoenix. I'm gonna 234 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: pull it up here right now, so we're pretty solid there. 235 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: I yeah, we're two games ahead of Phoenix right now. 236 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: Seventeen and ten, we are in the sixth spot there 237 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: in the seven or a half game behind the Rockets 238 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: for five. 239 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: Okay. 240 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: Some of the on we regarding this team this year 241 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: is they have not played a lot of good teams, 242 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: and that's not their fault, but it does I think 243 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: contribute to a feeling of, oh, we're kind of just meandering, 244 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 3: and maybe you feel better about where this is headed 245 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: if you've had a a steadier diet of games against 246 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 3: better teams and you've done you've held your own. You 247 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 3: know you've won some of those, perhaps you've lost some 248 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 3: of those. Have we beaten somebody had the stat I mean, 249 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 3: have we beaten? We beat Golden State? They had a 250 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 3: winning record. I think we beat him. They're basically playing 251 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: five hundred ball. They are so beyond that. Have we 252 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 3: beaten a team with a winning record, Man, I'm not sure. 253 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: Not a bunch. 254 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 3: Now, we haven't played a bunch either, I think, But 255 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 3: we have it, so we'll see if this kind of 256 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: gets the thing jumped start. 257 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: Is there any chance that tonight beat the Celtics. I 258 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: assume they have a winning record. 259 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: They do. I think that's true. Anyway, go ahead. Is 260 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: there any. 261 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: Chance that tonight KG will make his first appearance at 262 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 3: Tariat Center and they will make a big announcement, because 263 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 3: I don't think you can rule that out as part 264 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 3: of Okay, we're reintroducing him. Not going to be a 265 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: big ceremony tonight, but he's back, he's in the house tonight. 266 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: Let's see if we get a little lyft we had 267 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 3: Oklahoma City here, it'd be a great time to do it. 268 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 3: It would be a tremendous time to do it. Well, 269 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: you're the guy who told me he's been in town 270 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: for like a month. Well, no, I heard he was 271 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: in town the day before they made the announcement. I 272 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 3: don't know if he's still in town. I don't know. 273 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: That interesting the text from Lavel who will join us 274 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: at five point thirty flow, I think Dillingham needs pure progression. 275 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: He might be right, I've told you before. I'm already 276 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: on Dillingham. I think in the short run, you just 277 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 3: stop even pretending that you want him to really, you know, 278 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: run the offense. I just say, go out there and 279 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: for like ten minutes, go out and just take as 280 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 3: be as selfish as you take a bunch of shots 281 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: off the bench, because we don't really have much scoring 282 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: going on off the bench right now. I don't know. 283 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 3: I mean, worst things have been tried, right what how 284 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: how much worse could it be it is now? I know, 285 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 3: But I don't think vinc you'll go along with that 286 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 3: because he still has easily the worst body language with 287 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 3: any player that I've ever seen. With Dillingham when he 288 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 3: screws up. I mean, and I'm not saying he doesn't 289 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 3: have a right to be mad at Dillingham sometimes, all 290 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 3: I'm saying is in terms of showing his disdain, Yeah, 291 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 3: he's He doesn't hide it ever with Dillingham, ever, which 292 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: frustrates me, because they've got thirty year olds making stupid 293 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: mistakes at times. 294 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: Taking bad shot Now, in fairness, Finchy, it's bad body 295 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: language for them too when that happens. Fink's body language 296 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: hasn't been very good this year. Like I joked about 297 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: the New Orleans games, he looked like he wanted to 298 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: just go out and grab one of those Mississippi river 299 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: boats and just ride off into the Gulf of Mexico 300 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: because his team was just completely messing around those two nights. 301 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: They won both games and pretty authoritatively when all was 302 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: said and done. But that's what always bothers me about 303 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: the young players, that they seem to get no slack 304 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: and they have no equity. I know that's part of it, 305 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: but we alsot to have a lot of guys that 306 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: are out to lunch sometimes where it's i'd have a 307 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: much shortering. Yes, true, Yes, all right, So we got 308 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: a lot of good texts coming in from people who 309 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: have watched a decent amount on Amazon and Peak. We'll 310 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: save those for a little bit later in the broadcast 311 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: because we've got Ben Gasling coming up next Levelle will 312 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: join at five thirty as well. At the risk of 313 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: losing some listeners, Man, the Union Home Mortgage Gasparilla Bowl. 314 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: It's hot right now with about ten minutes to go 315 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. NC State thirty one Memphis seven. 316 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: Is that an upset? No, not really. I had no 317 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: wild fans. This could be your season experience. 318 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: The energy, the goals, the unforgettable moments of Grand Casino Arena. 319 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: Get your tickets now, including to Wild im Predators next Tuesday, 320 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: the twenty third at wild dot Com. Slash tickets to 321 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: cheer on the Wild this season. 322 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: Thank you, Kevin Falness. 323 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 3: Ben Gestling with us via the Connecticut Water Systems Hotline 324 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 3: on this rather chilly Friday evening in the Twin Cities. 325 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 3: Although my sources say that Ben Gesling has already made 326 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: the trip east to the Big Apple to the Greater 327 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 3: New York, New York area, maybe happen to bring along 328 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: a couple of family members as well. It's funny that 329 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: I was reminded of that because earlier today I am 330 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 3: watching CNN The Morning Show, and they are I can't 331 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: remember who the it's one of their law law enforcement 332 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 3: reporters who's really very good covering analyzing stories like the 333 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 3: Brown University story, and he gets this is a lighter 334 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 3: piece where he kind of tours various New York stops 335 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: for the holiday season, and ultimately the final stop they 336 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 3: make is Macy's. 337 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: Do you know the. 338 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 3: Answer to this question or might you learn it over 339 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 3: the course of your weekend sojourn to New York is 340 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 3: the New York Macy's still what we associate with Macy's 341 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 3: in a way that, let's be honest, we don't anymore 342 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: wherever Macy's is around the country, including here or in Chicago, 343 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: where it's just not as fancy, it's not as hot, 344 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 3: you it just doesn't seem to be as as important 345 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 3: and as cool. 346 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: But is the is that Macy's. 347 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 3: Does that hold on to the ongoing Macy's traditions as 348 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 3: far as you know, I think it does. 349 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 4: I was here with my older daughter about three years 350 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 4: ago and it was still pretty decked out. I think 351 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 4: that was that was in the spring, so it was 352 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 4: during the middle of a flower show. But yes, I 353 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 4: think in terms of like the old school department stores, 354 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 4: it's kind of the central gathering spot where everybody comes 355 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 4: for big events, not just to buy things. I think 356 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 4: that one has more of that than you find in 357 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 4: most places. Obviously, the downtown department store has largely gone 358 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 4: away in a lot of cities, whether it's Dayton's in 359 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 4: the Twin Cities or you know, any of the other ones, 360 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 4: probably Sears and Marshall Fields in Chicago, and obviously a 361 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 4: lot of them in New York. I don't think it's 362 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 4: quite as big of a thing in a general concept, 363 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 4: but I think this one still holds a lot of 364 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 4: that together. It'll be fun to see it. I haven't 365 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 4: been here at Christmas time in a long time. My 366 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 4: kids have not been here at all colubs. So they 367 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 4: just found out this morning. I surprise that, Yeah, big 368 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 4: surprise this morning. Hey you're not going to school. We'll 369 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 4: run to New York in a couple hours. So yeah, 370 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 4: figured the game being over Christmas or being near Christmas 371 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 4: in New York, It's like, when is this going to 372 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 4: ever happen again? So let's pounce on them all we can. 373 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 3: It's a great opportunity, a good very forward thinking and 374 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: you know, let's face it, the game didn't mean that 375 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: much at this point, so why but you still have 376 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: to go? So why not take this opportunity to get 377 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: to New York and with the whole family. Before we 378 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 3: talk Purple and the Darsaw news not particularly surprising at 379 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 3: this point, I want to get your reaction to the 380 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 3: Rams Seahawks game last night. A terrific game between two teams. 381 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 3: I think that both entered the game with eleven and 382 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 3: three records, and it goes into OT, and there's a 383 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 3: lot of discussion about ultimately the Seattle decision. They have 384 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 3: to you know, for those who did not watch the 385 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 3: Rams get the ball first in OT, they not only score, 386 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: they score a touchdown and an extra point. 387 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: They're up seven. 388 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 3: By definition, that means Seattle can't settle for a field goal. 389 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 3: They have to score a touchdown. They chose, and they 390 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 3: get it. They choose to go for two, and they 391 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 3: get it darnold with a good throw and showing good 392 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 3: patience to let the play develop, and they that's it. 393 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: Game's over. They win the thing. 394 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 3: And a couple people have speculated that is it going 395 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: to be long before a team or two decides if 396 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 3: they get the ball first to score and go for 397 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 3: two to really set the tone and put the pressure 398 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 3: on the other team. I'm assuming that's inevitable as well. 399 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 4: I think you'll see it. I mean, I could see 400 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 4: the argument for it, saying, now you create essentially two 401 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 4: gates that an opponent would have to clear if they 402 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 4: were to come back at the ball and have a 403 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 4: chance to put a drive together. And there's obviously the 404 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 4: risk of what if we don't convert, then they win 405 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 4: the game on an extra point. I think to that, 406 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 4: I would say, if you want to go do it, 407 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 4: and you're feeling good about your defense, then you take 408 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 4: the chance, because if your defense gives up a touchdown 409 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 4: at that point anyway, it's like, well, you know, the 410 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 4: extra point is kind of academic, and I think the 411 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 4: idea of well, if we can hold them to a 412 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 4: tie game and come back and score again, I think 413 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 4: a lot of times, especially in an overtime setting where 414 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 4: it is only ten minutes long, the clock is not 415 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 4: always in your favor to do that. So yeah, it 416 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 4: wouldn't surprise me if we see somebody decide to be 417 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 4: a little more aggressive there and say, let's just go 418 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 4: for two right off the bat, and then even if 419 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 4: you score, we have one more chance to stop you, 420 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 4: and if we do, that's the game. So yeah, it 421 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 4: wouldn't shock me to see one of the more analytically 422 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 4: and clients coaches give that a chance at some point. 423 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 3: How should the average Vikings fan look at Darnold's performance 424 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 3: last night, Because he had a couple of big blunders, 425 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 3: he did get the help I think in the second 426 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 3: half comeback of a return for a touchdown, I think yep, 427 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 3: And yet he also down the stretch made some important 428 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: throws as well. So what's the conclusion on Sam after 429 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 3: that game against the Rams. 430 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think there's it's kind of both 431 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 4: of those two extremes, because we did see him make 432 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 4: some mistakes early against a team that has absolutely owned him, 433 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 4: whether it's been with the Vikings or since he's been 434 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 4: in Seattle this year. I think even going back maybe 435 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 4: a couple times he played them previously before he come 436 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 4: to Minnesota, he had lost to them as well, So 437 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 4: he had some of those moments early in that game 438 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 4: that he looked like it was going to be another 439 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 4: one of those nights. I mean, but that game is 440 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 4: sixteen points. They're down sixteen points in i think the 441 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 4: fourth quarter, and yes, you get the pump return. It 442 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 4: makes things a little east to get the comeback done. 443 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 4: But he made a couple of throws at the end 444 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 4: of that game that they had to have it and 445 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 4: he was nails. I mean, that's not something we've seen 446 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 4: from a guy who has received quite a bit of criticism, 447 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 4: justifiably so, for his failures in big games. And I 448 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 4: think the fact that he made the throws that he did, 449 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 4: including kind of working through his reads on a two 450 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 4: point conversion and then finding the tight end of the 451 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 4: middle kind of in the software of that zone. He 452 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 4: gave them everything they needed down the stretch, and it 453 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 4: was not perfect by any means, and it was a 454 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 4: lot of the things we've seen him do. But for 455 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 4: him to come back and reassert himself in a game 456 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 4: they had to have against that team, I think it's 457 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 4: a big moment for him, and it puts them in 458 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 4: a position where if there's the number one seed. You know, 459 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 4: we've seen this over the years, but good luck to 460 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 4: people coming into that building if that is a team 461 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 4: that has a chance to win two games to get 462 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl. So I think for the payoffs 463 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 4: that he got in the stakes of the moment, I 464 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 4: think it's a pretty big you know, notching his belt 465 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 4: so to speak. 466 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 3: Stafford had it was it almost five hundred yards passing? Yeah, 467 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 3: he was, I do look at him now. And so 468 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 3: who had said that, I think with Sean Salisbury had 469 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 3: said this yesterday that in some ways he might be 470 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 3: throwing the ball about as well as he ever has, 471 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 3: and in this case with something at stake, because he 472 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 3: had some good years with Detroit where they really weren't 473 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 3: playing for anything, but he's playing, you know, with something 474 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 3: on the line. And yesterday, I mean he ultimately obviously 475 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 3: they didn't get the thing done, but he made some. 476 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 3: He is the guy who now looks to me like 477 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 3: he can make literally every throw that would I'm assuming, 478 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 3: make a guy like Koc salivate. 479 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yes, I think. I mean, Koc obviously has 480 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 4: a ring in large part because of that he's Stafford. 481 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 4: And the interesting thing with that is they obviously had 482 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 4: Jared Goff when Sean McVay was there, when Kevin O'Connell 483 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 4: got there, and they make the decision to move on 484 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 4: from Jared Goff, as I understand it, in part because 485 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 4: of the game against the Dolphins in twenty twenty where 486 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 4: it's Brian Flores and Andrew van Ginkel had a touchdown 487 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 4: in that game, and that game had a lot to 488 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 4: do with the Rams deciding we need to go a 489 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 4: different direction, we need to kind of make the move here. 490 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 4: So obviously they make the trade for Matthew Stafford to 491 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 4: win the Super Bowl. After that, I mean, we saw 492 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 4: a lot of years in Detroit where you know, when 493 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 4: he gets hit in the ribs last night, I'm thinking, man, 494 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 4: how many times have I seen this happen against the 495 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 4: Vikings over the years, where he was just getting beat 496 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 4: up before they put the investments into the upline that 497 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 4: the Lions did. But yeah, I mean the no look 498 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 4: passed a cup with fantastic. We've seen him do some 499 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 4: of that before. And he makes a lot of throws 500 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 4: that you want a quarterback to be able to deliver 501 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 4: in that spot where he can elevate and it's going 502 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 4: to be tight. The coverage is going to be tight, 503 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 4: There's going to be timing that has to be right 504 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 4: on he is. He is as good at that part 505 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 4: of the game, I think as anybody in the NFL 506 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 4: at this point in his career. Arc is going to 507 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 4: be very interesting because he was kind of this sad 508 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 4: sad of he got picked number one to a horrible 509 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 4: team and he's just getting beat up. And if he 510 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 4: won the second Super Bowl, it's like, are we having 511 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 4: a Hall of Fame conversation about Matthew Stafford. I mean, 512 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 4: it will be interesting to see how all of that 513 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 4: shakes out. But I think you could make the argument 514 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 4: for that is he gets towards the end because I 515 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 4: think they have as good a chance as anybody, even 516 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 4: if they're going on the road. I think that team 517 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 4: with Stafford the weapons he has, especially once DeVante Adams 518 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 4: gets healthy in that defense, they are forced to be 519 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 4: reckoned with in the playoffs. A lot of those teams 520 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 4: are coming out of the NFC West, so it's very 521 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 4: similar to the NFC North last year. But yeah, he is. 522 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 4: I think he's been tremendous. I think when the Vikings 523 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,719 Speaker 4: looked at Craig May and loved him, I think some 524 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 4: of the comparisons you could make there as he looks 525 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 4: like Matthew Stafford, so a lot of the things that 526 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 4: he does well. Yes, I think Evan O'Connell will look 527 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 4: at and say, yeah, I want a quarterback that can 528 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 4: make a lot of those sur the see Matthew Stafford 529 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 4: making pretty regularly at this point. 530 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 3: Standard Heating and Air Conditioning is the sponsor of Ben 531 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 3: Guestling's appearances on this program and on the Project as well. 532 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 3: The news becomes official today via the head coach koc 533 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 3: that Christian Darisa will be shut down for the rest 534 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 3: of the season put on the injured reserve list. I 535 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 3: had said yesterday, I thought this was pretty much inevitable. 536 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 3: I was stunned that they hadn't already done it. I 537 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 3: think the question on the table is whether they did 538 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 3: it out of protection in his case, or out of 539 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 3: frustration with how this season has progressed, the you know 540 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 3: stops and starts associated with Darisa. 541 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: What do you think? 542 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 4: Well, I would say this, I don't think they did 543 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 4: it because there was anything new that medically raised their 544 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 4: level of concern. I don't think there was a setback. 545 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 4: I don't think there was an aggravation. I think it 546 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 4: was a lot of you know, kind of what you 547 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 4: mentioned there where there is this back and forth all 548 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 4: season of there's still so swelling in his knee. They're 549 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 4: still kind of getting back to the point where he 550 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 4: trust it. Does he feel like he can go about 551 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 4: things the way he normally has And I think it 552 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 4: took him a while to get to a point where 553 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 4: he was comfortable with the obviously never really did so, Yeah, 554 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 4: I think there's probably some frustration there, and it's just 555 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 4: it's one of those things that I think as they 556 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 4: looked at it and we've gone into this thing now 557 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 4: where he hadn't practiced Wednesday Thursday, the last couple of 558 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 4: weeks and you're kind of going off of while he's 559 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 4: limited on a Friday, can he count on that for 560 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 4: a game. I think there was a thought process of 561 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 4: let's kind of hit the reset button here, he can 562 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 4: let this thing completely calm down, and then you heard 563 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell fait today it's my belief that this won't 564 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 4: go in the next season. I think there's probably a 565 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 4: little bit of a subtext there. We need to assume 566 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 4: this has been nipped in the butt now, like he 567 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 4: is going to be done for the last three games. 568 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 4: He can start the rehab early, there's no further stress 569 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 4: being placed on his knee, and then the vikings can 570 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 4: also go about these games not doing the will he 571 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 4: or won't he thing, or you know it's going to 572 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 4: be just school left tackle even if there's drawbacks to that, 573 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 4: and the fact that it's not Christians aias, so you're 574 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 4: not trying to play this guessing game late into a week. 575 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 4: So I think that's a lot of what goes into it. 576 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think it was a trying situation for 577 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 4: a lot of people because you're just you go through 578 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 4: training camp, I think excited about where he's at and 579 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 4: saying he's not on the pump, he can be ready 580 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 4: to go. But in retrospect, there was a lot of 581 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 4: optimism about his trajectory for the season that didn't pan out, 582 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 4: and I think, you know, there's certainly some tension that 583 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 4: gets related to that, And I think a lot of 584 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 4: this decision was let's kind of level set here and 585 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 4: get everybody back to the point where this is not 586 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 4: a part of the conversation next year. 587 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 3: Do we have any sense at all on how coveted 588 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 3: as head coaching material Brian Flores will be after this season? 589 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 3: To me, it's one of the open questions about the 590 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 3: future this team in the direction they go defensively, And 591 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 3: you know, I'm assuming there's going to be some jobs 592 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 3: that open up. 593 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: I don't know how many. 594 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 3: They usually there's usually several, But you know, we're still 595 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 3: I don't think have his case completely settled. I always 596 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 3: wonder whether that gives some team's pause that might be 597 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 3: interested in him, or is he is he viewed less 598 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 3: of a hot commodity just because that's the way it goes. 599 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 3: The team is going to make the postseason, and those 600 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 3: are the guys who, whether it's fair or not, or 601 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 3: Wright or not end up getting more attention. So where's 602 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 3: bflow as a head coaching candidate. 603 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 4: It's going to be very interesting because my understanding is 604 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 4: that his contract is up after this year, and I 605 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 4: don't believe there's been anything that's changed that, So that 606 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 4: means he will have the opportunity to shop around, both 607 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,479 Speaker 4: as a head coach and possibly as the coordinator. It's 608 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 4: very possible he's back here as well, but I think 609 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,719 Speaker 4: there's a thought process of if I have the opportunity 610 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 4: to kind of see what my market is, this is 611 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 4: as good a chance as any to do it. So 612 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 4: you know, he had three interviews last year, and I say, 613 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 4: I think felt pretty good about how those wins. But 614 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 4: what does his candidsey look like this year? I think 615 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 4: Will hinge On is somebody looking for a coach that 616 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 4: has quarterback experience more so than he does. I mean, 617 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 4: you know, the stuff with Tua Taga Bay Laura will 618 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 4: come up and then the interview I'm sure it did 619 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 4: last year as well, and how does he fit is 620 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 4: the guy that's leading your culture in your building when 621 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 4: the head coach has to be involved in every department 622 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 4: of it. I mean, I think that would be the 623 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 4: thing that people would have to feel really good about that, 624 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 4: and you know that's for any head coach in candidate, 625 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 4: you have to feel good about how does he interact 626 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 4: with every facet of your organization and is this the 627 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 4: guy you want leading it? So, I mean, I think 628 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 4: a lot of the questions he will get will revolve 629 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 4: around those things. And I'm sure he'll have interviews because 630 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 4: I mean, they are not going to make the playoffs. 631 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 4: But the fact that they've been competitive I think has 632 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 4: a lot to do with how they've played defensively. Given 633 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 4: the fact that their offense hasn't been as effective as 634 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 4: it's typically been, that defense has been put in a 635 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 4: lot of situations where hey, we need another stop, we 636 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 4: went three and out and you got to come through, 637 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 4: and that defense has kept them in a lot of games. 638 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 4: I think the way they've gone about it, you know, 639 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 4: not with a ton of depth in the secondary and 640 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 4: having to manage some injuries in the front seven, has 641 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 4: been a credit to the way he's gone about it. 642 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 4: I think it will just hinge on kind of what 643 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 4: he wants his next phase to look like, how the 644 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 4: vikings factor into that, and you know, how do teams 645 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 4: feel about him as a possible candidate. There's going to 646 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 4: be a lot of questions that probably stretch beyond just 647 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 4: the job he's done at the defensive coordinator this year. 648 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 3: So we've got three people shut down now, right, Grenard. 649 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 2: Was due to have surgery. I don't know if you 650 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 2: already had it or not on his shoulder. I believe 651 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: Mattellus is out correct, yep. Now he's shut down and 652 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: Darra saw. 653 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 4: Not that. 654 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 3: As we said, the result matters all of that much. 655 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 3: But does it how much impact does it have in 656 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 3: terms of your own thing regarding Vikings Giants on Sunday. 657 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 4: Well, I think it goes back again to J. J. McCarthy. 658 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 4: I mean, there's this continued question of how much progress 659 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 4: can you see from this quarterback. I mean, two weeks 660 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 4: they've won in a row now, and he's played better. 661 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 4: I mean, it's certainly not been something that he's let 662 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 4: the world on fire. There's still some throwers he's missed. 663 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 4: But I thought they were more willing to put a 664 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 4: few things on his plate, put a few things on 665 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 4: his back in Dallas than they've been most of the year. 666 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 4: I'm curious to see if that continues. I think this 667 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 4: is a team they should beat. I mean, that's front 668 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 4: seven the Giants have is awfully talented. It has not 669 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 4: been as productive as you would expect it to be 670 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 4: with the given the people they have, and that secondary 671 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 4: is there for the taking if they could protect J. McCarthy. 672 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 4: So I think it's a game they should win. I 673 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 4: think it's a game that they will get after Jackson Dart. 674 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 4: Even if they're missing Jonathan Grenard, I think they'll have 675 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 4: ways to pressure him. So ultimately, if they win it 676 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 4: or not, probably isn't that big of a deal. But 677 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 4: continuing to see progress from J. J McCarthy, I think 678 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 4: is important, and if they see that progress, I think 679 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 4: they win the game. So all of this kind of 680 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 4: works together. But to me, these last three are all 681 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 4: about the quarterback and what kind of consistency he continues 682 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 4: to show has a lot to do with how this 683 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 4: offseason plays out. So I think that is continually the 684 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 4: if you want to chart it as a win or 685 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 4: a loss, in some ways, the win becomes, hey, we 686 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 4: saw a little more from our quarterback that we could 687 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 4: build on it. I think that becomes the biggest factor 688 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 4: in these last three. 689 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 3: Speaking of consistency, we're chatting about this at the top 690 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 3: of the program. We tried to do the research on 691 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 3: air as we were talking about it. I think we 692 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 3: got it right, but you would probably be more knowledgeable 693 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 3: on it, maybe even off the top of your head. 694 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 3: But we noted that how often, or I should say 695 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 3: how rare in the last twenty five years, really never 696 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 3: since what what do we say guards the two thousand 697 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 3: and eight and nine, nine and ten, I should say, 698 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 3: have the Vikings actually nine? Yeah, because ten the game 699 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 3: the playoff games are played the next year, the eight 700 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 3: and nine seasons, that's the last time the Vikings have 701 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 3: made the playoffs two straight years. And I get the league. 702 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 3: There's a lot of teams that tend to be up 703 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 3: and down, but then you look at a select number 704 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 3: of teams that get there pretty routinely, or they get 705 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 3: their four years out of five or whatever. This team 706 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 3: has really had, and it's probably directly related to the 707 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 3: quarterback position. This team has just had none of that 708 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 3: consistency that we like to associate with, Hey, we're cutting edge, 709 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 3: we're on top of it, we're right there, and yet 710 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 3: we're sitting here again knowing they're mathematically eliminated once again, 711 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 3: they're not going to make the playoffs even as little 712 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 3: as two straight seasons, let alone actually. 713 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 2: Making a run. 714 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it is remarkable that it's taken that long, 715 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 4: and I think it is one to get the quarterbacks. 716 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 4: If we go through it. Eight and nine, obviously they 717 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 4: go to the NFTY title game and then Park comes 718 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 4: back for ten pieces are in place, we should be 719 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 4: pretty good. And that season goes off the rails very 720 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 4: quickly and in any number of ways, including the Metrorome Classic. 721 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 4: So you go from there to twenty twelve, they make 722 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 4: the playoffs kind of the surprise you with Christian Ponder 723 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,919 Speaker 4: and Adrian Peterson has the MVP year. The next year 724 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 4: is the disaster with Ponder and then Matt Castle plays 725 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 4: some and Josh Freeman plays the one game and they 726 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 4: end up losing. The coaches get fired. Fifteen, they win 727 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 4: the division. The next year, Teddy Bridgewater's knee basically spontaneously 728 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 4: combusts on the practice field, so they missed the playoffs 729 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 4: that year. Then you go to seventeen. Okay, they go 730 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 4: to then SCY title game, but then there's a quarterback 731 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 4: change after that year and the first year with Cousins 732 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 4: isn't because the way they wanted to nineteen, they go 733 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 4: to the playoffs, they win a game twenty that one 734 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 4: is not type to a quarterback change where they don't 735 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 4: go to the playoffs. After twenty nineteen, obviously Cousins comes back. 736 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 4: That's probably bore the defense falling apart at that point. 737 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 4: But a lot of these years, including twenty four to 738 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 4: twenty five, Donald takes out of the playoffs, and then 739 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 4: there's a quarterback change at twenty two into twenty three. 740 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 4: Cousins is there, but the Cousin gets hurt. So it 741 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 4: has been in almost all of those cases some level 742 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 4: of quarterback turnover that I think has prevented them from 743 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,959 Speaker 4: doing it. Because the teams that you see that get 744 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 4: there routinely. It's been the Bills lately, it's been the 745 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 4: Packers with Aaron Rodgers, It's been the Chiefs obviously with 746 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes. You know, a lot of those teams are 747 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 4: consistently factors because they have consistency at the quarterback position. 748 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 4: They know they're going to have a chance every single 749 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 4: week because of the guy they have playing the most 750 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 4: important position in sports. And I think that's a lot 751 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 4: of why this becomes when we talk about McCarthy, consistency 752 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 4: now important because you have to have some level of 753 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 4: reliability at that position to go into a season or 754 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 4: a game or a stretchup games saying we have a 755 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 4: chance to be competitive and make a run with this thing. 756 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 4: And there's a lot to be figured out with JJ 757 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 4: McCarthy in that sense yet. But the reason they have 758 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 4: wanted to invest in a quarterback is they want to 759 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 4: have that position settled, which it really has not been. 760 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 4: You know, we're doing our all quarter century team next week. 761 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 4: Mark Craig, Andrew Kramer and I all picked those teams 762 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 4: and we all picked a different quarterback for the last 763 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 4: twenty five years because there just hasn't been that kind 764 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 4: of consistency. It just speaks to the level of up 765 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 4: and down this team has had, and I think getting 766 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 4: that quarterback position fixed really for the first time since 767 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 4: fran Tarkenton is the only way that you get out 768 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 4: of this up and down in the playoffs. Out of 769 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 4: the playoffs thing, they continue to do. 770 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 3: Have fun in the Big Apple and thereabouts, and we'll well, 771 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 3: actually probably won't chat next week because I'm off and 772 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 3: Merry Christmas to you and yours and we'll chat soon. 773 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 4: It sounds good, Damn Mary Christmas and your family as well, 774 00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 4: and we'll look quarter to chapp soon. 775 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 2: Sounds good. 776 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 3: That has Ben Gesling, brought to you by Standard Heating 777 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 3: and Air Conditioning. Lavelle is scheduled to join in about 778 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 3: a half hour. Looks like it's now final at the 779 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 3: what do we call it? Is it the Sasparilla Bowl, No, 780 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 3: the gas Parilla Ball, whatever it's called. I think Memphis 781 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 3: got edged by was it? I don't even remember. Was 782 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 3: it NC State? Does it even really matter who it was? 783 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 3: It doesn't, It makes no difference. There is a meaningful 784 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 3: college football game coming up later tonight which might be 785 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 3: a part of the top five and five. I know 786 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 3: Guardzi will give us wild results from yesterday preview Minnesota 787 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 3: Timberwolves results or what might be coming tonight against the 788 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 3: defending NBA champion club. 789 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 2: And there's apparently some. 790 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 3: Rumors, some speculation that the National Basketball Association might be 791 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 3: mulling over some changes to the draft lottery system to 792 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 3: really attempt to discourage quote unquote tanking, So that could 793 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 3: be on the agenda. 794 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 2: Who played in that game, who won that game? 795 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 3: I was just watching the Assasparilla Bowl, the Gasparilla Bawl Gas. Yeah, 796 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 3: North Carolina, Carolina State, Memphis, Yeah, thirty one to seven 797 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 3: Memphis coach. 798 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 2: Their old coach is at Arkansas right now. Oh that's right. 799 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: I have still decided to play the game, part of 800 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: the change. So yeah, it's ball season. You never know, 801 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: some wild stuff. I'm assuming some wool stuff and Vikings 802 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,760 Speaker 1: injury report. You nailed all of it. I have nothing 803 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: else to add.