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Speaker 1: next Chuck Ingram on fifty five krc HE talks Station Ay.

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Speaker 2: Thirty three to fifty five KRCD talks Station Happy Wednesday

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Speaker 2: always made an extra special thing because Judge entered up Politicano,

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Speaker 2: to whom Chuck Ingram was referring, joins the program and

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Speaker 2: welcome back here, honor. He's setting you up for disaster.

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Speaker 2: Judseph Poltanda, Although because you live on a farm in

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Speaker 3: Welcome back here, correct, And I'm in New York and

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Speaker 3: the farm is in New Jersey. I really thought that

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Speaker 2: Oh, We've become used to that. We always snatched a

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Speaker 3: Anyway, How are you. It's a pleasure to be with your.

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Speaker 2: Bro Always a pleasure to have you want. I'm always

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Speaker 2: And I was actually in a total state of disbelief

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Speaker 3: To say, a retired twenty four year police corrections officer,

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Speaker 3: There is simply no connection whatsoever between quoting something candidate

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Speaker 2: Well, and that the statement that he quoted from Donald

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Speaker 3: So you have a sheriff here, popularly elected, You have

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Speaker 2: And Lord Almighty, Judge Nitta Paulitano, you're on all the time,

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Speaker 2: But this case illustrates, and so do I. There but

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Speaker 2: They kicked this bail hearing off, effectively denying of him

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Speaker 3: How about the Eighth Amendment? Nor shall excessive bail be required?

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Speaker 2: Well, and I don't know a state constitution that doesn't

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Speaker 3: But the government cannot evaluate the content of speech and

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Speaker 3: I don't like his use of Trump's language from one

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Speaker 3: That is an indicator of authoritarianism and a rejection of

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Speaker 2: Amen, and we can leave it on that note, Judge.

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Speaker 2: Editor Paul Tammo brilliant. I can't thank you enough for

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Speaker 2: bringing this to my attention. I'm a Paul. I thought

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Speaker 2: I was reading an article about the UK or Germany,

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Speaker 3: For God's sake, and just to prove I'm a good guy,

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that. It's like prayer. We could

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Speaker 3: Do they still have that Italian kid from New Jersey

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah they did. It didn't work out so well

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Speaker 2: for mister Flaco. He needs some help. He's a one

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Speaker 2: man show. Can't go tolone. It's a team. It's a

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Speaker 3: Judge. Until as just self bunch and then the wife

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Speaker 3: of Tom Brady said, after the Giants beat the Patriots

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Speaker 2: I figured that one out. Judging freedom. Who's on today,

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Speaker 2: Judge Enna Polatanou.

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Speaker 3: The Great scott Rinder at one o'clock this afternoon, How

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Speaker 3: Ukraine is on its last legs, even with all the

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Speaker 2: There week after week after week, the story stays the same. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Judge Enna Polatano, next Wednesday will do this again. God

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Speaker 2: bless you, sir much love my friend eight forty four

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