1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Tom We got a SoundBite the Penguins coach Dan Muse. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: He was mad about the way the team performed Saturday 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: and Friday at the press conference after the Penguins lost 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: in overtime to Seattle on Saturday. Turns out he was 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: angry er in the dressing room. 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: Here's some sound secreted out of the locker room. 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: Dan Muse addressing the Penguins after that lost to Seattle. 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 3: And for those of you who think you've got no practice, 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 3: tomorrow six am, dogscape, I want to see every single 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 3: wann yet work hitasses off until you if you. 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 4: Can, got sound. 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: This is not baseball. Do you want to make the 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: playoffs or not? 14 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: That's well put and this is not effing baseball. Penguins 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: at home tomorrow night, Buffalo visits. You know what's a 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: big hit on the jumbo tronic Penns games. We were 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: just talking about maybe putting Cutch in a Perogi suit 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: as a mystery parogi for races this coming year at 19 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: PNC Park. But at Penguins games, they do an animated 20 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: Duncan Donuts race on the JumboTron like the Parogi race 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: at PNC. 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: I forget. 23 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: It's like a donut, a cup of coffee. I forget 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: what else is racing, but the crowd really loves it, 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: like when they got beat five nil by Minnesota Friday, 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: the biggest hit of the night in rightly was the 27 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: Duncin donuts race. 28 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 5: Uh. 29 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: Pablo torri Is is great in sports media because he 30 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: actually makes sense. I'm a big fan, and he said 31 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: something I believe for years, The saturation of sports by 32 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: gambling will ruin how we look at sports, and I 33 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: think that's already happening. The saturation of sports by gambling 34 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: is diluting what Tory calls the cultural supremacy of sports 35 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: in America because fans up till now rooted for their 36 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: team uber atus, but now fans are gonna root for 37 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: payouts and not teams. And when gambling was kind of 38 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: a secret thing, illegal you did it with your bookie, 39 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: that wasn't as prevalent. But now rooting for payouts and 40 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: not teams is everywhere. And I think we've seen that 41 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: already with fantasy leagues. Fantasy leagues and gambling just have 42 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: ruined how we look at sports. Fantasy leagues and gambling 43 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: making about me and not us. That's why I stopped 44 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: doing fantasy hockey. I didn't want to root for guys 45 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: to score against the Penguins. So get your calls in 46 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: now for calls on the fifteens UH eight three three 47 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: four one two WSDX. Let's get back to Steeler talk 48 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: is almost mandatory. They had a very interesting conversation on 49 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: get Up about Philadelphia's offense. They said the Eagles offense 50 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: is too simple, to elementary and rudimentary the. 51 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: Words they used. 52 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: Now, if that's true about Philadelphia's offense, which just won 53 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, where does that leave these Steelers in 54 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: their offense is prehistoric, which the Steelers offense is is prehistoric, 55 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: worse than rudimentary. Get Up talked about the Steelers offense too, 56 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: called it limited. 57 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say it's limited now. 58 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: As we've discussed on the show all week, George Pickens's 59 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: breakout in Dallas makes the Steelers look very bad. But 60 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: to be clear, Pickens would not be having the season 61 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: he's having in Dallas here with the Steelers, or even 62 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: a very good season not in that Steelers offense just 63 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't happen. So all y'all who think things would be 64 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: better if they kept George Pickens, Nah, not for the Steelers, 65 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: certainly not for George Pickts. He'd just be mad and 66 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: statless and targetless and pissed off. 67 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: We've been debating. 68 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: How do you fix the Steelers because a lot of 69 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: other people doing what I do, were trying to figure 70 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: that out. I don't think they can be fixed. We'll 71 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: talk to the FABO about that. At four point thirty. 72 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: I had somebody last night remark how did they beat 73 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: Indian New England, who lead their division? And the answer 74 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: is lock. 75 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: It was lock. 76 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: You got eleven turnovers combined in those games, and maybe 77 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: you took some of those, but maybe the Colts and 78 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: Patriots gave most of them. I feel like the Steelers 79 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: are lucky to be six and five, Like six and 80 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: five right now is more than they deserve. I'm not 81 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: saying the standings lie a ton, but I think they 82 00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: might lie a little bit. Your calls on the fifteens 83 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: and now it will be so fetch. 84 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: I gotta give a report. 85 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: Eddie Johnston's ninetieth birthday party last night, which I was 86 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: so honored to attend, was just fantastic. At Kenny Reagan's 87 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: place thirty one in Bridgeville. Kenny and Nicole and everybody 88 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: involved in just a great job. EJ, his wife Diane, 89 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: all the Johnstons. Every couple should be like EJ and Diane. 90 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: EJ's young grandson said, they listened to this show, so 91 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: hi kids, that's awesome. Great kids. Like I said last night, 92 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: I'm still gonna swear, And it was like a Penguins 93 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: Who's who Craig Patrick, all the current guys in management, 94 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: Kyle Dubas, Dan Muse, Jason Spetza, Staggy and Brian Trodier, 95 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: m Seed, Troy Loney, Tyler Kennedy, Bob Aerry, Greg Malone, 96 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: Rick Key, O, Chico Back, Kolby Armstrong, Mark Kachowski, Rocky Saganut, 97 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: my pys therapist, Jim Kittelberger who's worked with the Penguins 98 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: for so very long, Mister Electricity, Dave Mullinery, the dean 99 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: of hockey writers, Donnie Iris, My god, Donnie was there. 100 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: If I'm forgetting anybody, it's understandable because so many people 101 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: were there. Please forgive me. EJ's friends from Montreal, who 102 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: are a hoot. 103 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: I love him. 104 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: Sidney Crosby was there with his lovely girlfriend Kathy. Just 105 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: a great couple. Remind me of EJ and Diane, albeit 106 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: a lot younger Sid out in the wild. He's just 107 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: so gracious and awesome and so just He's Sidney Crosby. 108 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: And a lot of people had kids and grandkids there, 109 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: and that's great because Eddie Johnston needs to be remembered always. 110 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: He is a thoroughly good man. He taught me so much. 111 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: He defines hockey, not least in Pittsburgh. And I love EJ. 112 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: And last night was absolutely terrific. I found myself wondering 113 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: at Sid's ninetieth birthday party will be like, I won't 114 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: be there, but well, I mean, we know one thing, 115 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: He'll still be playing on five ninety. 116 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 6: X fifteen Dead tickets are on sale now, thirteen. 117 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: Action pat games in five days, Dugs dimes at fun times. 118 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: You don't want to miss it. 119 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 6: Secure the best seats in the house now before they're gone. 120 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 6: Get your tickets by visiting landing ten dot com. That's 121 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 6: at lanting ten dot com to lock in your seats today. 122 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 6: And now the super genius Mark mad Now. 123 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: You know it's good. 124 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: Mace is always a component of any nice date. 125 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 7: Thank you for making my day. 126 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: Yeah what you said? 127 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 8: The X at one O five nine. 128 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: Time for calls on the fifteens, which is apparently gonna 129 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: have good days and bad days, but you can still 130 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: get in eight three, three, four one two WXDX. I 131 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: guess you're not mad about the Steelers anymore like you 132 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: were yesterday. 133 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're done, but you can flip them over. 134 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: This side's pretty or. 135 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just they're just not a very good team 136 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: and they're run horribly, and you know, people talk about 137 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: the coach. It's amazing that people still think Tomlin's a 138 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: good coach because Tomlin's incompetence and the incompetence of his staff, 139 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: and really the incompetence of ownership too. Omar Khan as well. 140 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: You can't overachieve in that circumstance. Their roster's not very good, 141 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: but the way they're run gives them zero chance to overachieve. 142 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: And I would love to know what Aaron Rodgers really 143 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: thinks of this, wouldn't you. I don't think this is 144 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: at all what he bargained for when he signed in 145 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh at any level, personnel, playbook coaching. I don't think 146 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: it measured up to what he thought it would be 147 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: at any level. Then I'm gonna call again eight three 148 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: three four one two w XDX. Let's go to Andrew. 149 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: Andrew in the car, you're only double. 150 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 9: M hey, Mark loving the calls on the fifteen segment. 151 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 10: I think it is so fetch. Wanted to get rid 152 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 10: of a little bit of hockey talk. Yes, yeah, I'd 153 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 10: be glad to the Penguins. Yes, they're three four and 154 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 10: three in their last ten, which I don't need to 155 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 10: tell you that's not good. But wanted to get your 156 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 10: perception on potentially losing the Buffalo tomorrow night. Does that 157 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 10: change our perception on the season. Does it change how 158 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 10: the Penguins view themselves? 159 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 5: Going to well, I don't. 160 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: Think you get your perception changed on the season, even 161 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: if you would lose tomorrow night in a season that's 162 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: only a quarter the way through, despite the significance of 163 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: being or not being in a playoff Birth of Thanksgiving 164 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: when those who are make the playoffs seventy seven point 165 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: five percent of the time. But you know it's a 166 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: bad conference. You know there's ground to be made up. 167 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: The loser point keeps teams in it. But I think 168 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: Tomorrow night's a game they need to win. It's certainly 169 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: very winnable. That said, buff who aren't very good, have 170 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: won four of their last five, and Tates Thompson scored 171 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: in six straight games, and they got that goalie with 172 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: the goofy name back upl or whatever, who's pretty good. 173 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: He was injured. So, uh, it's a game they need 174 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: to win, but it won't be easy. 175 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 10: Absolutely, fill up the gravy boats and let's get ready 176 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 10: to play. 177 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: Let's go to Jackie Jackie and Jefferson Hills. Jackie're on 178 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: with double. 179 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 9: M hey mark for all of the Steeler fans who 180 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 9: are absolute apologists for Mike Tomlin and Root and aren't 181 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 9: the second and Omar Kahn thinking that the Steelers can 182 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 9: never do no wrong. Do you feel like that the 183 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 9: vast majorities of those fans are under the age of 184 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 9: like twenty seven or twenty eight. 185 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a good question. 186 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: I felt, and I've said that younger fans, younger people, 187 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: they're less demanding, they they're not result space. They just 188 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: like the Steelers. And if the Steelers are bad or 189 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: the Pirates are bad, or whoever's bad, and they like them, 190 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: they'll just say they're good. I'm right, you don't know 191 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: Ball that's their mo. So I don't know about the 192 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: demographic breakdown, but you might be onto something that said. 193 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: I think the notion that the Steelers and Tomlin could 194 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: do no wrong. I think that's kind of dying on 195 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: the vine right now, don't you. Maybe not universally, but 196 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: I think they're certainly large pockets. 197 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I do. And the reason why I and 198 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 9: how I came up with that age group is because 199 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 9: I was eighteen the last time the Steelers won the 200 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 9: Super Bowl. I'm almost thirty five right now, and I 201 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 9: feel like Steeler fans from that age group, if they 202 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 9: were like eight or ten years old or whatever, I 203 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 9: feel like they're probably not old enough to remember what 204 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 9: really went into those teams in the mid to late 205 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 9: two thousands as to why they were so successful. 206 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 5: And I could tell. 207 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 9: You from what I've seen in the last ten twelve 208 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 9: years or so, this ain't it. It sucks. 209 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: Let's go to Steve. 210 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: Steve, you're on with double M. 211 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,599 Speaker 8: Hey, Mark, got a question for you, Aaron Rodgers. You 212 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 8: keep saying that you know this is not what he 213 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 8: bargained for. Do you think he was fooled by Tomlin 214 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 8: and the Steelers that they see all the right things. 215 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 8: I mean, he's been a fraud for how long? How 216 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 8: did you fall for this? And expect better coming up? 217 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: But the general consensus among those are on the NFL 218 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: is that Tom Wins a Hall of Famer, not a fraud. 219 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: I just think that Rogers was fooled by the name, 220 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: maybe painted into a corner because he didn't have any 221 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 1: other offers wanted to go to Minnesota. They didn't want him, 222 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: and maybe they should have. Then again, the way Rogers 223 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: is killed off and now he's hurt, maybe not. I 224 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: thought at one point that Minnesota would want Rodgers next year. 225 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: Now I don't think there's any way the right move 226 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: for them would have been the franchise Donald But I digress. Yeah, 227 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: I just think that Rogers thought that he could win 228 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: to some degree coming here, and I think the reasons 229 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: that it isn't happening isn't on him. 230 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: I don't think he's the. 231 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 7: MVP Rodgers, but I think he's a good enough to 232 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 7: have a better record than this with this roster version 233 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 7: of Aaron Rodgers, and the coaching has let him down, 234 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 7: and the roster assembly too, But I think this roster 235 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 7: could overachieve given better coaching. 236 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, if they let him do what he wanted, maybe 237 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 8: that's what he thought. He could come in and do 238 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 8: what he wanted and he would have success. But they're 239 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 8: just thwarting his efforts. And maybe it's a good point 240 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 8: though that he did have no nowhere to go and 241 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 8: that was it. So he had to thank you for 242 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 8: the call. 243 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: And by the way, a couple of colors back, a 244 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: guy said that, you know about the excuse making for 245 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: the Steelers, I think that's more on the local media's 246 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: behalf now than the fans like Kabali, like people you know, 247 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: are saying the Steelers don't throw over the middle. Kabali 248 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: put up a video of a pass over the middle 249 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: against Chicago and said, who says the Steelers don't throw 250 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: in the well? Kamoom, that's one time. That's one time. 251 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, let's talk about Williamson. Let's get 252 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: the numbers, because they don't throw over the middle. They 253 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: don't take deep trucks either, they just don't. Let's go 254 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: to Nick in the truck, Nick fire Away. 255 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 11: Hey, Mark, I'm not sure if you know or Tommy 256 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 11: Radio knows, but when Aaron Rodgers did sign was Pickens 257 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 11: still on the team. 258 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, because for like a little overlap in the offseason, 259 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers did have a really good number two receiver, 260 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: but it wasn't Pickens. 261 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: As it turns out, it was Metcalf. 262 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 11: Right, So with Pickens and Metcalf, I do give more 263 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 11: respect to that duo if it was here. I do agree. 264 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 11: Maybe it wouldn't be as good as Ceedee Lamb and Pickens, 265 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 11: but you know, with with him on the outside of 266 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 11: Metcalf and a slot and then you have your tight 267 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 11: ends who Rogers does use. I think that could have 268 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 11: been a very dangerous offense with those No, no. 269 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: No, it could have been. 270 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: Have you listened to a word I've said for the 271 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: last couple of days, Okay, you could have Metcalf and Pickens. 272 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: You could have Metcalf and Pickens and Jerry Rice in 273 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: his mfing prime on that offense, and with Arthur Smiths 274 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: coordinating and with the pop gun quarterbacks they have, it 275 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't be much better. 276 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: They don't know how to get anybody the ball. 277 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: What would make you think the different personnel, why that 278 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: would change it? 279 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 11: Because I think when Rogers is then Arthur smith is 280 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 11: not calling the place that. 281 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: Okay, then Rogers is calling pretty bad place too. 282 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: Bro. 283 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: You just don't know what you're talking about. Goodbye, You 284 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: just don't know what you're talking about. 285 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: There you go acting like things could be better if this, 286 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: if that, if the other. It's the coaching and the 287 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: roster assembly and the administration and the team and the 288 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: owner and the GM and everybody that's flawed and there's 289 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: no escaping it with that major change over. 290 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: Let's go to Eric. Hi, Eric. 291 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 5: Double am, good day. 292 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: I said, good day. 293 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 12: I just wanted I wanted to mention, Uh, whenever you 294 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 12: compared the rudimentary offense of the Eagles to the Steelers 295 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 12: pre historic offense. 296 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: No, I didn't. I didn't compare, but. 297 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 12: Go ahead, Oh I'm sorry, I mean, get. 298 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: Get up called it rudimentary. They called the Steelers offense limited. 299 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: I said, if the Eagles offense is rudimentary, where's that 300 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: leave the Steelers? I mean, the Eagles obviously have a 301 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: much better offense even if it is rudimentary. 302 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 11: Right, But that reminds me of Chuck Noll's quote. 303 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 12: Champions are champions not because they do things extraordinary, but 304 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 12: because they do ordinary things better than anybody. 305 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: El I love Chuck Nole how long has he been dead? Again? Goodbye? 306 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: Okay calls on the fifteenh tremendous love Chuck Noll, But 307 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure things he said about football in the 308 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: seventies and eighties apply now, uh up next hockey talk 309 00:16:58,920 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: with the Great Peter Maguire. 310 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 5: One nine. 311 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: Hey, we're in your smart speakers sucking. Listen to the 312 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: X everywhere you go. Tell your smart speakers. 313 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 8: Alosa play one oh five point nine the X on iHeartRadio. 314 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 2: This is Doug Gotlin. 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Joining me now, 336 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: he's anything but a con man. He knows more about 337 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: hockey than anybody. 338 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: For some reason. He's in Ireland again. Always great to 339 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: talk pucks with the great Pierre Maguire. Pierre, why are you. 340 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: In Ireland for the second time within the last what 341 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: five or six weeks? 342 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 5: In the last three weeks, Mark, and it's great to 343 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 5: talk with you. I'm actually here because of a thing 344 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 5: called the Friendship four which is in Belfast, Ireland, and 345 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 5: this is a tournament this year with riit with Sacred 346 00:18:55,320 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 5: Heart University, with Miami University not Miami, me in Florida 347 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 5: about Miami, and of Ohio and Union College out of 348 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 5: Schenecta in New York. Last year we had Harvard and 349 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 5: Boston University and Notre Dame here and Merrimack. We had 350 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 5: four amazing teams, and next year it's going to be 351 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 5: off the charts. But all I can say is I 352 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 5: come here because these people care so much about hockey. 353 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 5: We're trying to grow the hockey brand around the world, 354 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 5: and the biggest thing to me is that they use 355 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 5: hockey as a motivational tool to try and solve things socially. 356 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 5: And I think it's an amazing cause and I'm really 357 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 5: proud to be part of it. 358 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: Sounds terrific. The Penguins right now not so terrific. They've 359 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: lost eight out of eleven. They're in a fun How 360 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: bad is it to your mind? 361 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 5: I don't think it's as bad as everybody thinks. 362 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 6: You know. 363 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 5: I've been watching all their games and I understand what's 364 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 5: going on, and I work with, as you know, Paul 365 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 5: steigerol and all the pregame shows. I think the biggest 366 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 5: thing is people have to understand and give this team 367 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 5: a little wiggle room. First of all, I think they've overachieved, 368 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 5: so which is a good thing, not a bad thing. Secondly, 369 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 5: the trip to Europe is never an easy thing. It's 370 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 5: a tough thing. I go through it all the time. 371 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 5: You correctly said me being here in Ireland again for 372 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 5: the second time in three weeks, and I'll be back 373 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 5: here before the end of December, by the way, so 374 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 5: I know how hard it is. And I think the 375 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 5: third thing, which is really important is this is a 376 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 5: young team that's trying to figure out their roles, and 377 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 5: it's a young coaching staff at the NHL level. At 378 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 5: the NHL level, I stress that trying to figure out 379 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 5: what they're trying to do. 380 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 2: They're zero and five in overtime and shootouts. That ain't good. 381 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: You ain't gonna make the playoffs giving away all those points. 382 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: How do I improve with that? Because those are two 383 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: things you can practice in Pierre. But I don't think 384 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: three on three or shootouts. Well, shootouts do, but three 385 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: on three doesn't necessarily lend itself to practice, does it. 386 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 5: No, it does not. That's so smart. It's such a 387 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 5: good statement. I totally agree. Three on three is an 388 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 5: exercise and skill and talent and veteran experience more than 389 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 5: anything else, and a lot of times it's the speed 390 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 5: quoting of your team. So Mark, you're not wrong, I'm 391 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 5: a at all. You're one hundred percent right. It's hard, 392 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 5: you know, it's it's a limited situation for Pittrick right now. 393 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 5: They more times than not, they got to try to 394 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 5: win games in regulation. They know that. I know that, 395 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 5: and most people in the NHL know that. You know 396 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 5: I coached in the league. When you know there were 397 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 5: no extra points for losing in overtime, and our team 398 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 5: missed by not very many and I think we lost 399 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 5: eighteen overtime points. My point in this, on this whole 400 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 5: thing is it's it's great that there's an extra point 401 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 5: for getting to overtime. It's really important that you make 402 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 5: sure you get two points, not one point. 403 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, that loser point kind of skews the standings, and 404 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: I think some teams learn to settle. 405 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: Not the Penguins, not so far anyway. But that's a 406 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: bad thing. Now. 407 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: The Stars are still producing Pierre Sidons. You know, each 408 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: scored in that loss to Seattle on Saturday. It seems 409 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: the problems offensively are more about secondary scoring. 410 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, is it ever so well said and 411 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 5: so smart? Agreed? You know again, they're not. This is 412 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 5: a young team kind of find itself. I talked about 413 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 5: it today on Canadian radio. The truth of the matter 414 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 5: is most people did not have Pittsburgh even relatively close 415 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 5: to the playoffs at this time of the season. I 416 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 5: think coach Muse and the staff have done a great job. 417 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 5: I think the goaltending tanum has been really solid to date. 418 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 5: There's a team that's probably overachieved a little bit, to 419 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 5: be fair, and I'd much prefer to be the Pittsburgh 420 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 5: Penguins right now than the National Predators. I'll take one 421 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 5: team from the Ease and one team from the West. 422 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 5: And so the truth is that I still think there's 423 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 5: hope for this group. They're going about it in a 424 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 5: proper way, and I'm pretty excited about their groups, though, 425 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 5: I really am. 426 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: Penguins have the number one power play in the league, 427 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: the number five PK, and that's great, but that can't 428 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: really come through every game in Canada, and it kind 429 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: of master your deficiencies five on five at least, I 430 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: think that's the case with the Penguins right now. 431 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 5: Oh, it's basking it totally. Absolutely it is. And I'm 432 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 5: a big fan of the special Teams quote that was 433 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 5: created by Scottie Bowman, where you add on the power 434 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 5: play percentage and the penalty of percentage. As you want 435 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 5: to compete to the Cup, you need to be one 436 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 5: oh five or better. And so no, that's absolutely true, 437 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 5: that's one hundred percent correct. Again, this is a team 438 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 5: that most fans I think, if they're being fair with, say, Mark, 439 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 5: we've got a chance to be competitive this year. Let's 440 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 5: hope you can get the extra points a little bit 441 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 5: like Montreal and Ottawa last year, so that we can 442 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 5: get into the playoffs. I think most fans before the 443 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 5: season started in Pittsburgh thought that this was not a 444 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 5: playoff team. I think now people think, you know what, 445 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 5: let's let's kind of get gree a little bit. Let's 446 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 5: hope that we can make the playoffs. 447 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: We're talking to ber Maguire's brought to us by always 448 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: say flagging and traffic control. Pierre Raquel's out for a 449 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: little bit longer. How good has mcgrorty been. What do 450 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: you hear about his performance since returning from injury in Wilkes. 451 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: I heard he's been dynamite. At what point is he 452 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: ready to be called up after having come back, like 453 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: like I said, from surgery. 454 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 5: Well, I watch all their games. I watched a lot 455 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 5: of games in the American Hockey League. I watched a 456 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 5: lot of games in the East Coast Hockey League. That's 457 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 5: we knew about Murshaw last year. I think you and 458 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 5: I talked about him, right, and so the truth is 459 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 5: that he's getting really close all the time. The one 460 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 5: thing I caution, just because I've been through it a lot, 461 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 5: is an evaluate and also as a coach, as a 462 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 5: management person, you can't just rush guys out of injury 463 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 5: situations from thinking, oh, yeah they're dominating the American League 464 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 5: and come up and play in the NHL. Yes, they 465 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 5: have this. This player definitely has a chance and will 466 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,239 Speaker 5: be an NHL player on an everyday BASI. I think 467 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 5: they're being smart, just being careful with his development. I 468 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 5: think that's probably the best word, careful with his development 469 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 5: right now. 470 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: You know I agree with that, But again, you know, 471 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: with Raquel out, I mean it's mattered a lot. I mean, 472 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: any injury with this team is going to have drastic effect. 473 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: Now. 474 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: Dan mus was mad after Saturday's loss and said, so 475 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: is that good? Does that push a team? Because Sully 476 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: kinda he kind of walked lightly even when things were bad. 477 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: You had to read his expression. Dan Mwes made things 478 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: perfectly clear, didn't he? 479 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 5: It did, And I like that again. I've walked in 480 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 5: his shoes before. I've taken an underachievement team and made 481 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 5: them very close to being a playoff team. So at 482 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 5: one point you have to decide as a staff are 483 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 5: we gonna push or are we gonna sit back? And 484 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 5: I think he's done the right thing because he does 485 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 5: have Crosby, because he does have Malcolm, because he does 486 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 5: have Carlton, because he does have with dang, and because 487 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,959 Speaker 5: he's got a pretty good tanem and goal right now 488 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 5: where he feels, you know what, we have a chance 489 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 5: to do this and he's in a very I think 490 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 5: the best word is fluid fluid division in the metro 491 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 5: right now where they have a legitimate chance to make 492 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 5: the playoffs. So I'm glad that he actually did that. 493 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 5: At the beginning, he was kind of a nice guy, surpy, nice, polite, 494 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 5: and all of a sudden he showed his players. You 495 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 5: know what, I'm determined on hard, I'm on it, I'm 496 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 5: gonna lean on it. And I think players appreciate that. 497 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 5: The players don't want to sit at home watch the 498 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 5: playoffs at home. They want to be on the road 499 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 5: and they want to compete and win in the playoffs, 500 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 5: and the coaches setment good tone for it. I like, 501 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 5: what Dan, did I really do? 502 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: Buffalo is in town tomorrow. The Sabers have won four 503 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: out of five. Page Thompson scored in six straight game, 504 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: which is very impressive. I like the goal of UPL. 505 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: I can't pronounce his name, I use his initials. I'm 506 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: gonna stick with UPL Pierre. But are the Sabers legitimately 507 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: a team on the rise because we've been waiting a 508 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: long time, So Sabers fans, you know what. 509 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 5: I know. There's a big robbery of Pittsburgh and Buffalo. 510 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 5: I coached in it, so I get it. And there 511 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 5: was also a huge one with Hartford and Buffalo, by 512 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 5: the way, and I coached that too. I think the 513 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 5: biggest thing is that with Buffalo they have enough skill, 514 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 5: they have enough talent, and they've got to coach. It's 515 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 5: way undervalue Lindy ruffs way undervalued. All that being said, 516 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 5: I don't know if they're deep enough. I really don't, 517 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 5: But I also think they got all legitimate chances because 518 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 5: of the turmoil that's been involved in it. With all 519 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 5: the injuries this year in both the Metro in the 520 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 5: Atlantic mark you look at all the injuries, it's just 521 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 5: mind chattering. So the fact that you know, Toronto in 522 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 5: particular has had a terrible start to the year, Montreal's 523 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 5: kind of taking a step back a little bit, Detroit's 524 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 5: been up and down, Ottawa has been one of the 525 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 5: more consistent, Boston has been surprising. I think that, yeah, 526 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 5: Buffalo's got a chance to be a playoff team for sure. Pierre. 527 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: It seems to talk about Logan Cooley every week, the 528 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: local kid from West Smithlin and last goals for you 529 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: to talk four goals and helper, Pierre, I'm so worried 530 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: Logan won't make the US Olympic team, and I'm on 531 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: record as saying if he doesn't, I will storm the capitol. 532 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 5: You have every right to. I don't know what side 533 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 5: of the political aisle that you lean on, but it doesn't. 534 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 2: Matter, no, no, no, either side. I just want Logan 535 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: on the US Olympic team. 536 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, this this I was just gonna say. This has 537 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 5: nothing to do with politics. But all I'll say is this, 538 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 5: he belongs on that team. I think we talked about 539 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 5: this a couple of weeks ago. Look, Clayton Keller's on 540 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 5: his team. He's on that team. There are a lot 541 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 5: of really skilled American players. Austin Matthews is hurt right now. 542 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 5: The injury situation where Timos is really dire. But I 543 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 5: would say one thing. One of the most consistent guys 544 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 5: has been Logan Cooley. Logan Cooley, and you know what, 545 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 5: I'm going to tell you this. My late and best friend, 546 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 5: ray Erroll, the former general manager of the Pittsburgh Penguins, 547 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 5: used to tell me all the time, Pierre, there's a 548 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 5: kid coming up. I used to babysit him and ray 549 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 5: did Logan Cooley? I know, ray Baby said him. And 550 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 5: Ray used to tell me all the time, Pierre, I'm 551 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 5: telling you right now, this guy's really good. And he 552 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 5: was right. He was one hundred percent right. So I 553 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 5: would hope that Logan would have a legitimate opportunity on Timusa. 554 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 2: Who's he remind you of. 555 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: I've tried to draw parallels between him and players we've 556 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: seen it in the past. 557 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: I see a little bit of sit in him. Maybe 558 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: that's unfair. Who does he remind. 559 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 5: You of Patty laugh on Taine's I say, I see 560 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 5: a lot of Patty laugh on Tanna, and there's some 561 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 5: sit in him, for sure, there's some cite. It's hard 562 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 5: not to if you're a kid that grew up in 563 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 5: Pittsford and you watched it over the last twenty years. 564 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 5: It's hard enough to think that you're going to be 565 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 5: sitting in Crosby. You know, I grew up in Montreal. 566 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 5: I was a defenseman. I wanted to be Larry Rottinson. 567 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 5: I nineteen all the time. I was never as tall 568 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 5: as him. I thought there were similarities in our game, 569 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 5: but he was just way better than me. 570 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 4: You know. 571 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 5: So I always say that, you know, Sid would be 572 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 5: one guy, But athletically speaking, I think he and Pat 573 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 5: Lafon team are very very similar, very similar. 574 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: Pierre Eddie Johnston turned ninety yesterday. I was at his 575 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: birthday party last night. I know you're a big fan. 576 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: EJ built the game. I mean, in some ways he 577 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: defines his era of hockey, doesn't. 578 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 5: He he does, and man, oh man, what a job 579 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 5: he did for the Pittsburgh Penguins. And you know, Mark, 580 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 5: I just got to tell you this what one of 581 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 5: the most emotional times I ever had. And this is 582 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 5: probably off color, but it's great for your listeners. I 583 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 5: coached against Eddie's team. I was coaching Hartford, Eddie was 584 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 5: coaching Pittsburgh and I caught Yarmoy yarder with an illegal 585 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 5: stick and was Yarmou was really mad at me. We 586 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 5: tied the game late, and eventually they won because Yarmers 587 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 5: scored coming out of the penalty box after I called 588 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 5: that illegal stick. We couldn't score on the power play, 589 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 5: and Eddie wanted to get after it with me, and 590 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 5: I was picked off, and I had so much respect 591 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 5: for him, but I was not going to back down. 592 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 5: And James Patrick, my former defenseman, grabbed me and said, 593 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 5: You're not going over there, are you nuts? And so 594 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 5: it was pretty amazing. But what I can tell you 595 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 5: is I've been friends with him forever. My late great 596 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 5: friend Ray Schiero adored him to the max. Eddie was 597 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 5: a huge part of those Pittsburgh Penguin runs in the 598 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 5: final you know eight nine. He definitely played a role 599 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 5: even though what wasn't with us in ninety one and 600 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 5: ninety two, And I know he's a very proud member 601 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 5: of the sixteen and seventeen teams that won the Cup. 602 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 5: Eddie's a phenomenal, phenomenal hockey man, a great human being, 603 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 5: and he's done so much for the growth of the game. 604 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 5: I can tell you that. And again as too, probably 605 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 5: a big raised Irish people. As I say that from Delpha, Ireland. 606 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 5: We almost went at it one year and I'm sixty 607 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 5: four and he's ninety, and he still wanted to get 608 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 5: after it, which I have so much respect for. So 609 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 5: I will never ever ever doubt his determination as professionalism 610 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 5: and one thing. 611 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 2: I want people to remember it. And I'm old enough 612 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: and so were you to have seen this. He was 613 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: a great goalie. 614 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: I mean he won two Cups and the one he 615 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,959 Speaker 1: went on in the seventy two playoffs when the Bruins 616 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: beat New York in the final. I mean that's one 617 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: of the better playoff goaltending performances I've seen. 618 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 5: I don't think people understand that, like they don't honestly, 619 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 5: they don't. Like Eddie was an elite goal He and 620 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 5: Jared Cheevers were phenomenal forever with the Boston Bruins. Great 621 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 5: Teddy was a great player, Great Tanem the great Scottie 622 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 5: Bowman obviously my mentor, an amazing friend and dear friend 623 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 5: of Pittsburgh Penglin hockey. He and Eddie are unbelievably tight. 624 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 5: You know, Scotty's ninety two right now. He used to 625 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 5: tell me all the time just how great a goalie 626 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 5: Eddie was as a junior, as an American League goalie, 627 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 5: as an NHL goalie. I know where all the bodies 628 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 5: are buried on this one, and I'm telling you right now, 629 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 5: they're not making any of that stuff up. Eddie was 630 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 5: phenomenal in so many different facets of the game. 631 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: Pierre has always great stuff and joy Ireland will do 632 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: it again next week. 633 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 5: I can't wait. I'll be back. I'll be back in 634 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 5: North America looking forward to it. Take care of Mark, 635 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 5: thank you. 636 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: That's Pierre McGuire brought to was always say flagging and 637 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: traffic control, making traffic safe again. Called four one two 638 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: three oh one twenty three hundred, or visit online at 639 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: awsafe dot net for a quote today. 640 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: By the way, I. 641 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: Misspoke talking about Rockger McGroarty. They do not have surgery, 642 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: but it'd been at a long term with a upper 643 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: body injury. Recently returned to play for Wilkes in the AHL, 644 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: the Penguins farm team, and is ripping it up. So 645 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: maybe we'll see him in Pittsburgh sooner or not later. 646 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: Tristan bros Is it his NHL debut or just season debut. 647 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: I think it's his first NHL game tomorrow night for 648 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: the Penguins when Buffalo visits, assuming he dresses, which, boy, 649 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: you know, we used to do that all the time 650 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: with Sully. 651 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 2: Call a guy up and scratch him. That sucked. Hope, Dan, 652 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 2: don't do it. 653 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: One oh five nine, It's The Woody Show, weekday morning 654 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: six to ten one. 655 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 2: This hour, The Mark Maddon Show is brought to you. 656 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 2: Bye bye. Blight probably served a palmer