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Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was thinking, as we were talking about paganism,

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Speaker 2: there's a game, the college game, many many years ago,

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Speaker 2: six degrees of separate separation, or six degrees of Kevin Bacon,

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Speaker 2: if you could get within six tries or six movies

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Speaker 2: back to Kevin Bacon. So you'd name an actor and

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Speaker 2: you'd say Tom Cruise, Well, Tom Cruise was in this

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Speaker 2: with so and so, and that was and then so

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Speaker 2: and so was in this with so and so, and ultimately,

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Speaker 2: within six tries you'd get back mathematically to a movie

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Speaker 2: that Kevin Bacon was in. Well, it's almost six degrees

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Speaker 2: of paganism, because no matter where you go or what

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Speaker 2: paganism even in the things you're comfortable with. As we're

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Speaker 2: during during phone calls and stuff like that. But as

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Speaker 2: we're talking and the mention of Christmas and goes, well,

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Speaker 2: that's Christmas, and they celebrated and the wise men. Unfortunately

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Speaker 2: we had to go to a break. But you think

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Speaker 2: about the concept of the wise men. The wise men

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Speaker 2: were the magi, they were pagan astrologers, and yet people

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Speaker 2: have those on cards and everything like that, and during

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Speaker 2: the holidays, and even see shirts saying Wiseman still follow

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Speaker 2: either on the cross or something like that, and things

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Speaker 2: like this. You'd be surprised how much it is it

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Speaker 2: has infiltrated, not on its own, but willingly buy different

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Speaker 2: groups or leaders like Constantine and the like that had

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Speaker 2: then applied the others so that there was comfort level

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Speaker 2: in its growth. As a matter of fact, Christianity can

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Speaker 2: be argued by historians at least I might have a

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Speaker 2: different thought, but that a lot of that is what

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Speaker 2: propelled Christianity, you know, Rome, Constantine changing Rome and their

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Speaker 2: a okay, listen, you're not going to be persecuted for

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Speaker 2: being Christian anymore. That's the first thing. And then slowly

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Speaker 2: he started opening that up and then he started saying, well, no,

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Speaker 2: allowing everything, but now putting paganism down. And through the

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Speaker 2: process of the years and so on, came to a

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Speaker 2: point where he says, no, Christianity's mandatory in ways, and

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Speaker 2: then you've got people going okay, well then I'm just

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Speaker 2: this with me. Does that always work? Absolutely not. Are

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Speaker 2: there systems that are polluted and perverted because they've brought

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Speaker 2: things into Christianity. Absolutely, But that's where discernment comes from.

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Speaker 2: And my purpose for bringing these things up and pointing

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Speaker 2: them out is even the word holy day has been

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Speaker 2: to look around and see how these things are interacting

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Speaker 2: against those kinds of interruptions. But many of these things

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Speaker 2: from thousands of years of filtering have become benign. You know,

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Speaker 2: are created in the image of God, some argue that

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Speaker 2: that is that you have intellect, will, and emotion. Others

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Speaker 2: Christians are taught not to fear he who can kill

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Speaker 2: and that kind of attitude can be healthy and productive. Now,

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Speaker 2: So is it about taking care of the world that's

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Speaker 2: These are the things that I think are lost in

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Speaker 2: And that's my only hope here. It's not to champion

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Speaker 2: to be reasonable, partially because if when you're reasonable, others

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Speaker 2: about your faith and about God if they're non believers,

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Speaker 2: If you're unreasonable, they will reject what you say and

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Speaker 2: what you do and your belief in God. Rebecca, Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the Jesus Christ Show.

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Speaker 1: Hi, I was wondering if you're tell me what your

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Speaker 2: Well, make no mistake about it. I know it gets politicized,

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Speaker 2: and it seems wrongly so that to become a political issue.

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Speaker 2: And I know that there's different pundits from different sides going, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: it's not about that. But taking care of the earth

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Speaker 2: it as well. And both sides politicize it in a

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Speaker 2: way that I think is vulgar and upsetting. One group

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Speaker 2: So if you scrape all the politics off it, God

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Speaker 2: God says to be a good steward or take care

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Speaker 2: in that, Rebecca, And there's a balance there. A lot

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Speaker 2: It's a problem. That's a problem. But in a capitalistic society,

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Speaker 2: it into the air, don't put it in the water. James,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Hi, James.

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Speaker 2: I'm well, sir, quickly, we only have it a moment

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Speaker 2: a moment or so here, okay, help, Yes, I was.

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Speaker 1: Just wondering, why should we, you know, promote those evil

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I think that's a legitimate question. What would

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Speaker 2: you say about the Halloween holiday, which really is a

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Speaker 2: derivative of a Christian holiday, All Saints Day, and not

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Speaker 2: necessarily sow in this the Celtic festival which preceded them,

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Speaker 2: But it is more mutation of All Saints Day and

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Speaker 2: All Hallows Eve, which came from the Christians. So what

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Speaker 2: part of Halloween do you find to be evil?

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Speaker 1: Well, that same night and everybody studies who whoa, whoa,

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Speaker 1: whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.

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Speaker 2: Why would why would be in the night? Why would

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Speaker 1: Because that's when evil people celebrate, you know, So if you.

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Speaker 2: Not necessarily, there were many pagan rituals that were in

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Speaker 2: the morning. So if you go to church at night,

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Speaker 2: that's evil, No necessarily okay, So anything you do at

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Speaker 1: Evil, not necessarily.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So why is it evil in this case?

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Speaker 1: Because of all this evil masks and the.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so what would be an evil mask?

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Speaker 3: Well, they got you.

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Speaker 1: Could go out there and see yourself all these evil

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Speaker 2: Okay, are there not some non evil masks?

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Speaker 2: a Christian and that is that is your faith, and

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Speaker 2: on the contrary, it may make you run closer to God.

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Speaker 2: But these things are our judgment. Calls on your own.

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Speaker 2: To say all things that deal with violence or ugliness

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Speaker 2: would cut that out of their job and say I

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Speaker 2: can't go on those. It depends what the purpose of

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Speaker 2: these things are and as to where they are and

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Speaker 2: if you're using them for good and how you're applying them.

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Speaker 2: If you think that it's something that's become to you know,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of a rite of passage. Passage for men.

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Speaker 2: A lot of them see these things and kind of

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Speaker 2: a lot of gallows humor and laugh at the things

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Speaker 2: that can be fine. If it becomes an infatuation or something,

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Speaker 2: you know that you're the that you're getting just totally

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Speaker 2: caught up in the macabre, then you got to check

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Speaker 2: yourself a little bit. Fair enough. Yeah, you're very welcome.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that every single thing that deals with

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Speaker 2: the macab or oh my gosh, I'm throwing out all

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Speaker 2: my Tim Burton stuff or any of these things. It's

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Speaker 2: just it's not fair to the concept of of different

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Speaker 2: types of literature and art and filmmaking. There is many

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Speaker 2: types of art, paintings or otherwise that could be considered

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Speaker 2: macob that are quite brilliant and wonderful and insightful. And

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Speaker 2: that goes for movies as well. But you have to

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Speaker 2: it and think that way, Ah, discernment. Isn't it just

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Speaker 2: easier to just say no to everything one of my

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Speaker 2: pet peeves, if you will, is the concept of zero tolerance.

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Speaker 2: You see this a lot in schools, so that a

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Speaker 2: child that brings an aspirin to school is considered as

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Speaker 2: big of a problem as someone who brings illicit drugs marijuana, whatever,

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Speaker 2: it might be, cocaine, but they're all drugs. Even though

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Speaker 2: it's aspirin, everyone gets expelled. So that kind of concept

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Speaker 2: of all or nothing that it really points to laziness

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Speaker 2: then it does anything else. And if you're going to

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Speaker 2: why did God put you here and give you the

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Speaker 2: tools like scripture and prayer and say things like there

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Speaker 2: is wisdom in a multitude of council so the people

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Speaker 2: around you to get insight if you're just supposed to go, okay,

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Speaker 2: not doing this ever? Are there not doing this ever?

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Speaker 2: Type things? Sure there are. But even the Ten commandments

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Speaker 2: because if you're in law enforcement or military or things

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Speaker 2: not bear false witness. However, if you are a Christian

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Speaker 2: in nineteen forties Germany and the Naziss comes to your

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Speaker 2: door and asks if there's Jews in your floorboard being hidden?

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Speaker 2: You say no. So the context is very important and

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Speaker 2: the purpose in which you do things, and that has

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Speaker 2: to be part of your decision making. If you just

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Speaker 2: throw out all your skills of decision making, that just

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Speaker 2: becomes spiritually lazy. You're just looking for a reason not

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Speaker 2: to have to practice your faith, not to have to

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Speaker 2: apply your understanding and scripture. Well, you know what, if

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Speaker 2: I don't just cut it out now, I have to

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Speaker 2: read scripture and really understand things and know whether this

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Speaker 2: is right or wrong in this context, and it just

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Speaker 2: takes too much effort. I'm just going to say no.

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Speaker 2: And that kind of spiritual laziness is permeating the church

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Speaker 2: in a way that the concept of being a sheep

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Speaker 2: becomes the negative or the pejorative of being a sheep

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Speaker 2: and just stupid and doing whatever. Whoever in front of

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Speaker 2: you says, that's not the purpose. The concept of sheeps

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Speaker 2: in scripture is to show the purity and the kindness

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Speaker 2: and the simplicity of following your Master. But doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: you do that in everything you do at church and

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Speaker 2: all of those things. And I want you to be

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Speaker 2: able to think through things and use that brain in

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Speaker 2: the top of your body.

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