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Speaker 4: Hi, Billy Cunningham, the great American. Welcome this glorious Sunday

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Speaker 4: night throughout this country. There's so much stuff going on.

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Speaker 4: When can I keep track of everything? Tonight? We're going

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Speaker 4: to try to do our best, I understand. A few

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Speaker 4: hours ago, it was reported that Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome

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Speaker 4: Powell is now the subject of a federal criminal investigation

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Speaker 4: for the way you handle the spending of public money

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Speaker 4: in building the Federal Reserve building that was about four

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Speaker 4: billion dollars over costs. And so we'll see what happens

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Speaker 4: with Jerome Powell. He's going to claim politics is behind this,

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Speaker 4: but he's leaving office anyway in about three months. We'll

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Speaker 4: see what happens with that. Whether it's Greenland or Venezuela

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Speaker 4: or Mexico or Iran or Columbia or Cuba. This president

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Speaker 4: is doing a wonderful job and shaking things up. Would

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Speaker 4: you agree? And what happened in Minneapolis on Wednesday morning

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Speaker 4: is an example of what's wrong with sanctuary cities and

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Speaker 4: sanctuary states. Let's begin by saying, first, fast and factual,

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Speaker 4: that it is illegal to be a sanctuary city and

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Speaker 4: sanctuary state. That says to law enforcement, guess what, you

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Speaker 4: cannot come here. We are a sanctuary city sanctuary state. No,

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Speaker 4: you're not. There's no part of Minneapolis not subject to

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Speaker 4: federal law. There was no part of Alabama not subject

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Speaker 4: when the Democratic Party then refused to give black folks

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Speaker 4: intervention by Eisenhower, by Kennedy, and by Johnson, and by

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Speaker 4: Richard Nixon to tell the Democrats in the South, guess what,

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Speaker 4: you're part of the United States of America. You cannot

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Speaker 4: do this to black folks. You cannot charge criminally federal agents.

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Speaker 4: You have to allow black Americans to vote. In the South.

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Speaker 4: You can't let you You must let them to go

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Speaker 4: to school, for example. So the Democratic Party has a

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Speaker 4: long history and exploriting minority groups for their personal benefit,

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Speaker 4: which is what's happening in Minnesota right now. You can't

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Speaker 4: have a more incompetent governor than Jim Waltz or a

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Speaker 4: more incompetent mayor. Watching them both perform this morning with

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Speaker 4: Jake Tapper was disgusting and so wrong. You cannot have

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Speaker 4: including trend der Waga, to come to your city and

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Speaker 4: Federal law applies in Minnesota, and state officials cannot stop

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Speaker 4: And I put this on my ex account. You cannot

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Speaker 4: day next week will be hundreds or thousands of Minnesota's

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Speaker 4: by Democratic politicians like Pritzer to commit federal crimes on

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Speaker 4: a regular basis. It is illegal, completely illegal to impede

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Speaker 4: And it is illegal what Renee Good was doing that morning,

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Speaker 4: on Wednesday morning. She committed felonies long before that. Part

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Speaker 4: she drove a car purposely to hit police Officer Vice

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Speaker 4: at that distance the intent of the driver is somewhat irrelevant.

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Speaker 4: Well, there it is Superintendent of Police Larry Snelling in Chicago.

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean this weapon there was used, this sonic boom.

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean, I applaud what we did with Minduro.

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Speaker 8: So the President and saying, all right, well, we're going

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean, we didn't have the permission of Maduro

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Speaker 8: to go in and take him. So when we need

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Speaker 8: to do something for our national security, I think President

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Speaker 8: Trump feels authorized to do it. And I think, yeah,

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Speaker 8: CNN O Hall, they've been houling about the Maduro operation.

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Speaker 8: They're upset about Ice, They're upset about everything the president's doing.

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Speaker 8: MSNBC calls him a dictator on a daily basis, But

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Speaker 8: I think he knows that these are threats and we

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Speaker 8: can shake up the entire hemisphere here. I mean, we're

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Speaker 8: now fulfilling the Monroe doctrine, the Donroe doctrine. Phil and

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Speaker 8: I think this makes sense to me. This is in

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Speaker 8: our neighborhood. This is our next four neighbor Mexico. This

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Speaker 8: is a neighbor that has not been a good neighbor.

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Speaker 8: They've been allowing in all these illegals, allowing in all

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Speaker 8: this drug all these drugs. So we need to take

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Speaker 8: action to safeguard our people. And I think this is

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Speaker 8: something that will be done eventually.

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Speaker 4: And Jeff crue Eric, give me some thoughts of yours

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Speaker 4: on this Somali fraud which appears to be between ten

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Speaker 4: and fifty billion dollars. That's the tip of the iceberg.

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Speaker 4: You can only imagine the one hundred billion dollar fraud

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Speaker 4: out of Sacramento, California, dealing with homeless problems. And in

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Speaker 4: a sense, this has gotten that issue off the front

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Speaker 4: page of the paper because of what's happened in Minneapolis

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Speaker 4: with the unfortunate death of Renee Good. But this has

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Speaker 4: this been a godsend for the governor the and for

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Speaker 4: the mayor of Minneapolis because this is off the front page.

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Speaker 4: Is it good for Jeffrey Epstein? He's now done? The

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Speaker 4: Russian collusion, delusion is done, Hands up, don't shoot. That's done.

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Speaker 4: And so what does it do to the Somali fraud issue.

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Speaker 8: Well, it puts it on the back burner because all

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Speaker 8: the attention is on ice protests and you know, the

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Speaker 8: mayor they are ranning and raving, dropping the f bomb

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Speaker 8: and tim walls, you know, comparing this to the Civil

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Speaker 8: War and talking about you know, you know, the people

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Speaker 8: standing up against all this and encouraging protests. And so

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Speaker 8: they're going to try to maximize this as much as

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Speaker 8: they can because the last thing they want to talk about,

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Speaker 8: Bill is this Somali fraud that was going on there.

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Speaker 8: As you say, billions of dollars. There's no doubt he

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Speaker 8: knew about it. There's no doubt they did nothing about it.

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Speaker 8: And they didn't for political reasons. Obviously, this is a

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Speaker 8: constituency for these Democrat politicians and they don't want to

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Speaker 8: take on, you know, the massive fraud that has been

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Speaker 8: going on. Thank goodness, a guy named Nick Shirley, a

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Speaker 8: little twenty three year old kid, went in there and

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Speaker 8: exposed it all did the job. The mainstream news media,

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Speaker 8: the watchdogs didn't do bill.

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Speaker 4: In fact, ABCNBCCBS, you seldom see a story about Somali

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Speaker 4: fraud because of fears of being called a racist. And

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Speaker 4: over a two year period, there were twenty four million

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Speaker 4: dollars of political donations to Democrats from Somali daycare centers.

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Speaker 4: I don't know about you, but it's hard to make

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Speaker 4: that kind of money in a daycare center if you

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Speaker 4: have teachers and you have classrooms and you have things

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Speaker 4: like that going on. But then none of that happened,

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Speaker 4: and so this Somali fraud was funding the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 4: That's why they're going to embrace it. And they're going

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Speaker 4: to act as if any cries against Somali fraud is

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Speaker 4: similar to racism. You can't talk about that.

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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, they like to shut off debate on issues

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Speaker 8: that are uncomfortable for them, and they throw around the

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Speaker 8: R word constantly and say everything's racist, and you know

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Speaker 8: that's their way to shut down a discussion. But we

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Speaker 8: need to forge on because this is an issue that

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Speaker 8: I think is nationwide. I was glad to see the

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Speaker 8: Vice President talking about a special position being created to

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Speaker 8: go after the fraud. I applaud the Treasury Secretary. It's

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Speaker 8: got that sent for now, saying hey, if you're on welfare,

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Speaker 8: you know you can't be sending money overseas because a

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Speaker 8: lot of the Somalis in Minnesota, we're sending money back

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Speaker 8: to Somalia and guess what it was going into terrorist organizations.

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Speaker 8: So we were funding terror groups back in Somalia. So

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Speaker 8: all that's hopefully coming to an end.

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Speaker 4: Bill Well, the important matter is the American taxpayer paid

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Speaker 4: billions of dollars to fronsters who used the money and

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Speaker 4: overseas transfers to Somalia and elsewhere. That was given El

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Speaker 4: Schabab into al Qaeda, So we funded terrorism all over

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Speaker 4: the world. Now, you would think that seventy eight indictments

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Speaker 4: have been issued beginning in the Biden administration. Jeffrey crue Air,

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Speaker 4: there was seventy eight indictments issued over one hundred persons.

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Speaker 4: The great majority have been convicted. But that is the

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Speaker 4: tip of the iceberg. There's so many more underneath that.

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Speaker 4: And when Scott Bessett said, if you're on welfare, you

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Speaker 4: got to check a box on an overseas transfer, We're

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Speaker 4: going to run your name, your identifier through a database

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Speaker 4: and if you're getting any federal benefits at all, we're

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Speaker 4: going to arrest you. That'll stop that fraud.

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Speaker 8: Correct one hundred percent, And this should have done a

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Speaker 8: long time ago, but better late than ever. And the

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Speaker 8: good thing is the President's now sending more agents to

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Speaker 8: fight the fraud in Minnesota, so they're not backing down.

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Speaker 8: And that's what I think is good. You know, we're

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Speaker 8: plowing ahead with this agenda and going after it and

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Speaker 8: can't let Democrat extremism stop us or the media, because

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Speaker 8: the media is constantly on the side of the Democrats

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Speaker 8: and they're going to oppose anything the president does. So

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Speaker 8: I think this is an issue that's got nationwide implications

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Speaker 8: and could possibly be an issue Republicans could use in

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Speaker 8: the twenty twenty six minth Terms bill.

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Speaker 4: And lastly, Jeffrey Crueer, one thing that caught my attention

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Speaker 4: is that there was a motion by US attorney in

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Speaker 4: Southern Florida to panel a federal grand jury to investigate

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Speaker 4: Barack Hussein Obama, Clapper, Brennan Comy at All for what

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Speaker 4: they did to the country by changing intelligence, which gave

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Speaker 4: birth to the Mueller Report and impeachment. What happened in

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Speaker 4: the next four or five months. There's federal indictments against

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Speaker 4: Obama and that crew. Now Obama may be exempt from prosecution,

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Speaker 4: he can follow the motion. Can you imagine the mainstream

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Speaker 4: media if in fact all those individ jos are indicted.

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine that they'll go crazy?

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Speaker 8: But you know what a lot of us will say, finally,

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Speaker 8: because that's what we've been looking for from the very beginning.

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Speaker 9: We've been looking for.

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Speaker 8: Finally, a justice system that's not just focused on Republicans.

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Speaker 8: I mean, there's got to be equal justice. And if

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Speaker 8: you have Democrat law breakers, you have to have some

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Speaker 8: kind of indictments prosecutions against the Democrats. And we've seen

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Speaker 8: historically over the years the Democrats always get away with it.

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Speaker 8: So it would Obama committed all kinds of potentially criminal acts.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, I'm glad to see this bill. I hope

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Speaker 8: we see more. Well.

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Speaker 4: According to media accounts, the underlings and the various D

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Speaker 4: and I departments of the federal government have been given

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Speaker 4: immunity on condition testify truthfully against Obama and against Clapper

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Speaker 4: and COMI that whole crew because they changed the intelligence

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Speaker 4: which served as the basis for illegal search warrants against

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Speaker 4: various individuals of Donald Trump, resulting in the indictment of

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Speaker 4: about seventy five Trump officials. We think about Donald Trump's indictment,

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Speaker 4: but below that were dozens of others, his chief of

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Speaker 4: staff and his National security advisor, etc. Because Obama changed

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Speaker 4: the intelligence and ordered it to be done untethered the reality.

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Speaker 4: The reality was there was no Russian collusion delusion, and

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Speaker 4: after Trump was elected in twenty sixteen, there was a

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Speaker 4: big Powell to summer of the eight twenty sixteen in

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Speaker 4: the White House in which Obama ordered the intelligence falsely

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Speaker 4: be changed to serve as the basis for more investigations.

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Speaker 4: And that was illegal. That's called sedition, right, and it

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Speaker 4: would be amazing many times. I'm waiting for some Democrat

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Speaker 4: to have handcuffs put on them.

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Speaker 8: Maybe I'll wait for you know, we saw a lot

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Speaker 8: of Republicans go to jail, Cee Bannon, he had Paul Manifort,

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Speaker 8: Peter Navarro, I mean, patriots, people that were doing the

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Speaker 8: president's agenda, following the will of the people, but never

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Speaker 8: on the Democrat side. And you know, a good man

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Speaker 8: like General Flynn was abused, mistreated, he was removed from

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Speaker 8: his position all because of this, and he's somebody that

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Speaker 8: I think of all the time, the dastardly illegal activity

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Speaker 8: that was focused on him. So for his take and

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Speaker 8: so many others, I'd like to see justice.

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Speaker 4: Well, Jeff Crueer. The article is next to co America's

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Speaker 4: next front in the narco war, as Mexico's fentanyl friendly cartels.

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Speaker 4: I'd be in the state of shock if somehow that

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Speaker 4: Trump could go after the cartels in Mexico like we

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Speaker 4: go after al Qaeda wherever they can be located. The

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Speaker 4: cartels are killing a thousand times more Americans than ever killed,

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Speaker 4: and I think that ought to be the standard. But

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Speaker 4: Jeff Crueer, I love your stuff. Wonderful and thanks for

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Speaker 4: coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And we'll continue to

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Speaker 4: follow the attack on Mexico.

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Speaker 8: Yes, indeed, hey, Bill, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: God bless America. Let's continue with more. Jeff crue Air,

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Speaker 4: get all of this stuff at town hall dot com

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Speaker 4: or jeffkrue Air dot com. And all of this stuff

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Speaker 4: is there. C R O U E R E. He's

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Speaker 4: in New Orleans. It makes a lot of sense if

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Speaker 4: we go after al Qaida, because they kill Americans and

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Speaker 4: our threat. What about the cartels in Mexico? Are they

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Speaker 4: a threat? And in fact that they are bigger threat?

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Speaker 4: I certainly would think so. Bill Cunningham, the Great American,

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Speaker 4: with you every Sunday night, My Bully Cunningham, the Great American.

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Speaker 4: Imagine Mexico is next to maybe Greenland, maybe Cuba. God knows,

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Speaker 4: and I pray to God that this turns out well

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Speaker 4: for our great country. I know, I know one thing

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Speaker 4: that this thing in Minneapolis cannot metastasize to every blue

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Speaker 4: city and every blue state. Federal law applies in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 4: it applies in Chicago, it applies in Cincinnati, it applies everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Reminds me of what was happening in the eighteen thirties, forties,

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Speaker 4: and fifties. There is resistance in the South to the

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Speaker 4: federal government. It kinded to me smacks of Senator John C.

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Speaker 4: Calhoun style anti bellum nullification, that is, telling the Feds

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Speaker 4: don't operate in our city, don't operate in our state.

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Speaker 4: Federal law does not apply here. Who in the hell

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Speaker 4: do they think they are? The result is crass lawlessness,

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Speaker 4: mafia style shakedown artistry, and a neo Confederate stench combined

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Speaker 4: in one package. In the state of Minnesota, in the

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Speaker 4: city of Minneapolis, federal law has got to apply everywhere.

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Speaker 4: In New York City, or in Cincinnati, or in Austin, Texas,

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Speaker 4: federal law applies in those states. And when elected leaders

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Speaker 4: say constantly federal law doesn't apply where sanctuary city sanctuary

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Speaker 4: state and tell its citizens to impede and harass federal

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Speaker 4: officials in the performance of their duty. Now, those are

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Speaker 4: serious felonies, and it must stop. They will not voluntarily stop,

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Speaker 4: so they must be stopped. That Renee Good gave her

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Speaker 4: life because she listened to the plaintive cry of liberal

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Speaker 4: Democrats and others who say she was a social justice

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Speaker 4: warrior when she committed numerous felonies and she paid for

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Speaker 4: her ignorance with her life, which is very sad. Now

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Speaker 4: I do not applaud whatsoever the fact that a woman,

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Speaker 4: a mother of three, is dead. But she's dead because

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Speaker 4: of her behavior. And she would have got out of

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Speaker 4: the car when the officers walked up used the F

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Speaker 4: bomb as they get out of the car. We've had enough,

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Speaker 4: And she simply locked the doors of the car, would

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Speaker 4: not let her wife come in the other side, went backwards,

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Speaker 4: then forwards, knowing the officer was there, but she looked

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Speaker 4: and saw him there, So her behavior caused her own death.

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Speaker 4: Let's continue with more. The Somali thing is the predicate

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Speaker 4: for so much of this. Coming in next as MAYA Cook,

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Speaker 4: she's a Fox News contributor about what's happening in Ohio,

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Speaker 4: Minnesota and many other states. The line becomes available eight

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Speaker 4: six six six four seven seven three three seven Goll

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Speaker 4: Cunningham with you, every ye say to.

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Speaker 10: Me, Willie welcome you.

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Speaker 4: May I Cook, You're a Fox News contributor and attorney,

654
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Speaker 4: and you've done a lot of investigations in the state

655
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Speaker 4: of Ohio, which is a piggyback on what's happening in Minnesota.

656
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Speaker 4: The hearings are underway there and also in the state

657
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Speaker 4: of Maine, and I can only imagine the fraud that's

658
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Speaker 4: present in the so called Blue cities and Blue states

659
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Speaker 4: when it comes to daycare fraud and autism fraud, and

660
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 4: medicaid fraud, transportation fraud, foods and fraud. But maheck Cook,

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Speaker 4: first of all, can you tell the American people what

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Speaker 4: is happening? What is your investigation shown so far in

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Speaker 4: the Columbus area and the great state of Ohio.

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Speaker 11: Well, thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 12: I am looking both at home health care services and daycares.

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Speaker 12: I have visited a building with about thirty four home

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Speaker 12: healthcare services here in Columbus, Ohio, and was able to

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Speaker 12: talk to one or two businesses. One was not able

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Speaker 12: to provide much information about how home healthcare services work.

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Speaker 11: So if you have an.

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Speaker 12: Aging grandparent or a parent, she said she really didn't

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Speaker 12: know how it worked.

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Speaker 11: And the second office did sit me.

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Speaker 12: Down and explain to me that I could go through

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Speaker 12: a process with insurance. But for the most part, the

676
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 12: the lights were off, the doors were locked, nobody was available.

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Speaker 12: This is my third visit there, and I'm just wondering

678
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Speaker 12: how these businesses are operating given that they're getting state funding.

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Speaker 11: Who are they?

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Speaker 12: How are they operating How do you operate a business

681
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Speaker 12: when you don't show up for three days? And unfortunately,

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Speaker 12: the last day that I was there, I was encountered

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Speaker 12: by three individuals that were of Somalian descent that cornered

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Speaker 12: me and said that they would not be providing services,

685
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Speaker 12: and I said that was fine, and then they continued

686
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Speaker 12: to scream at me and try to intimidate me and

687
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Speaker 12: say that I should not be asking these questions that

688
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Speaker 12: I am Indian and not white. It has nothing to

689
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Speaker 12: do with the fact that anybody can walk through a

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Speaker 12: door and ask simple questions. But I think they have

691
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Speaker 12: a real problem. They think, for some reason they're going

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Speaker 12: to scare me with the racist word, but they can't

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Speaker 12: because I'm not white. And this is what they the

694
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Speaker 12: whole community has continued to say, you're not white. This

695
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Speaker 12: is not a white or black issue. This is they

696
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Speaker 12: are you committing fraud or not issue? And so that

697
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 12: has been insanely disturbing to me that you can't answer

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Speaker 12: simple questions. And then on the daycare front, I mean,

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Speaker 12: I'll be honest, we're not.

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Speaker 11: Seeing any kids.

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Speaker 12: We've maybe seen one facility with a few kids, but

702
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Speaker 12: the kids we're both referring to the owner or the

703
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Speaker 12: individual talking to us as mom, which is fine. You

704
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Speaker 12: can take care of your kids in a daycare. Many

705
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Speaker 12: of them are run down, many of them are filthy.

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Speaker 12: I've had three assaults of three different daycares by just

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Speaker 12: simply knocking you hear a click, they let you in,

708
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Speaker 12: and then they're violently attacking you. Most of these daycares

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Speaker 12: don't have children. There's only two that have allowed me

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Speaker 12: to come in and ask basic questions, and only one

711
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Speaker 12: of them has actually been able to give me an

712
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Speaker 12: application for a child and tell me how much it costs.

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Speaker 12: So when you ask questions about attendance, I also learned

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Speaker 12: that you can basically forget to sign in your child.

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Speaker 12: According to the State of Ohio, we have the best system,

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Speaker 12: but you can forget to sign in your child and

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00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 12: they can retroactively sign in children. So suddenly I have

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Speaker 12: questions about attendance.

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Speaker 11: I mean, these are.

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Speaker 12: Issues and our compliance in our audit system, and we

721
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Speaker 12: should be asking questions. And the elephant in the room

722
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Speaker 12: right now is yes, majority are Somalian owned. This isn't targeted.

723
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Speaker 12: This is the community that is running these daycares and

724
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Speaker 12: home healthcare centers, and that's what we're looking into.

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Speaker 4: Talk about the scam relative to home healthcare. I've seen

726
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Speaker 4: all your videos, and one of the videos I saw

727
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Speaker 4: looked as if these guys are about to assault you.

728
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Speaker 4: They use the F bomb, use racial epithets, and they're Somalis.

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Speaker 4: But nonetheless it seemed to work. In Minnesota. You simply

730
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Speaker 4: raise their racial flag and seeming like the Ellison and

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Speaker 4: Waltz and Fry, the mayor, the attorney general, the governor

732
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Speaker 4: of Minnesota simply back off completely. In fact, Keith Ellison,

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Speaker 4: I watch it so you don't have to on MS

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Speaker 4: now and he was talking about, yes, there is some fraud,

735
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Speaker 4: however it's being handled internally. There have been numerous convictions,

736
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Speaker 4: dozens of convictions for fraud, twenty five percent being of

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Speaker 4: Somali origin. But how does the healthcare scandal work? And

738
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Speaker 4: not just in Ohio, guess in every state? How does

739
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Speaker 4: one sign up to care for an aging parent and

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Speaker 4: have the government pay you?

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Speaker 12: Well, look, I think it's going to be different in

742
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Speaker 12: every state, but Ohio, Pennsylvania, obviously, Minnesota, their standards are

743
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Speaker 12: i would say lower. You are allowed as a child

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Speaker 12: to take care of your aging parent. Or a grandparent.

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Speaker 12: So the way that the alleged fraud is occurring right

746
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 12: now in Ohio is I sign up to take care

747
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Speaker 12: of my mother. I take her to a doctor. I

748
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Speaker 12: ask that doctor to approve her for home health care

749
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Speaker 12: because she is old and she has a lot of

750
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Speaker 12: aches and pains. The providers pushed back and said, your

751
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 12: mother doesn't qualify. Well, then I go and find another

752
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 12: doctor who's willing to There's several doctors in town that

753
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 12: have now been identified as part of this alleged fraud.

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Speaker 11: They'll robert stamp it.

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Speaker 12: Many of them allegedly are getting a kickback because now

756
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Speaker 12: that you've rubber stamped it, I'm making money.

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Speaker 11: Right between twelve hours.

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Speaker 12: So let's say I need a lot of care for

759
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Speaker 12: my mother twenty four hours, so I can sit at

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Speaker 12: home and apparently take care of my mother for seventy

761
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 12: five to ninety thousand dollars. Now I say my dad

762
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Speaker 12: needs home health care, that's one hundred and eighty thousand.

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Speaker 12: Then I move my husband's parents into my home. I mean,

764
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Speaker 12: all of this racks up for individuals that many of

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Speaker 12: them don't need home health care services, and there's one individual,

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Speaker 12: one provider that's basically pocketing the money, and many of

767
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Speaker 12: them are allegedly getting kickbacks for helping. Some of these

768
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Speaker 12: individuals are going door to door to recruit more individuals,

769
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Speaker 12: and the services are not being provided because many of

770
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Speaker 12: these people really don't need home health care services.

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Speaker 11: It's a massive scam. It needs to be looked into.

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Speaker 12: We need to revise the way that we're just handing

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Speaker 12: out tax pay dollars. And my bigger issue with all

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Speaker 12: of this is how do you come from another country

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Speaker 12: to America the first thing you sign up for as welfare.

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Speaker 3: That's a red flag for me.

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Speaker 4: Well, it happened in Minnesota and Columbus is the second

778
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Speaker 4: highest population of Somali's. Is this a Somali problem or

779
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Speaker 4: is it a welfare problem? Because most of those who

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Speaker 4: have gained the system so far have been Somali's. Most

781
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 4: not even here legally, most are not citizens. But is

782
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Speaker 4: this a Somali problem or an American problem?

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Speaker 11: It's both.

784
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Speaker 12: It's both to sit and demonize, and I will not

785
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Speaker 12: do this. I know people love to corner me on this.

786
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Speaker 12: I think you would.

787
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Speaker 11: Agree with me.

788
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Speaker 12: I think immigrants add value to our country. But what

789
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Speaker 12: I have unfortunately seen from the Somali population. Many of

790
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Speaker 12: them have benefited off of the welfare system, and many

791
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Speaker 12: of them, at least in Minnesota, based on indictments, there's

792
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Speaker 12: alleged fraud. So there's a massive problem in the system,

793
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Speaker 12: and there's a massive problem in the population.

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Speaker 11: And it's not only Somali. I said this many weeks

795
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Speaker 11: ago on Sean Hannity's show.

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Speaker 12: It's Bootney's and look, President Trump just came out with

797
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Speaker 12: the truth social thing. Boot needs are the number one

798
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Speaker 12: recipients of welfare. So when you put blocks of people

799
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Speaker 12: in the United States together who've never been asked to assimilate,

800
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Speaker 12: who don't speak English well, and then somebody is teaching

801
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Speaker 12: them how to gain the system, whether it's welfare and

802
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Speaker 12: home healthcare or daycares, that's how fraud occurs. And then

803
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Speaker 12: in the state of Ohio, we have to actually audit

804
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Speaker 12: our audit system because there's loopholes. We need to get

805
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Speaker 12: in a room with US attorneys and the DJ to

806
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 12: talk about all the problems with our legislature, all the

807
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Speaker 12: problems with the Department of Youth Services and come up

808
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Speaker 12: with a plan, a better audit, a better checklist. The

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Speaker 12: fact that people are saying in government, there's nothing to

810
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 12: see here is a red flag to me because they

811
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Speaker 12: are not doing their job. They're just pushing paperwork back

812
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Speaker 12: and forth. Paperwork doesn't tell you first fraud. You actually

813
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Speaker 12: have to use your eyes and ears. That's what I

814
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Speaker 12: want from state off beholders today to actually take this

815
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Speaker 12: seriously and to change the system.

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Speaker 4: Well, one other area of fraud, and Nick Shirley is

817
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Speaker 4: doing great work. I can't imagine a twenty two year

818
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Speaker 4: old YouTuber uncovering billions of dollars worth of fraud in Minnesota.

819
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Speaker 4: He posted a video he said in Minnesota there's more

820
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Speaker 4: than one thousand fraudulent medical transportation companies. In fact, one

821
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Speaker 4: transportation company received four million dollars in one month for

822
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Speaker 4: transporting patients to and from appointments when there was It's

823
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Speaker 4: impossible when you do the math for this one company

824
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Speaker 4: to have done that. And is that another area ripe

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Speaker 4: with fraud? To say, some patient has an appointment with

826
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Speaker 4: a doctor who's on the take, you take them from

827
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Speaker 4: your home to the doctor and doctor and back and

828
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Speaker 4: do that repeatedly. Is that also ripe with fraud? The

829
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Speaker 4: medical the medicaid transportation system, with all these ambulances, so

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Speaker 4: to speak, that don't exist.

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Speaker 11: Yes, all of it.

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Speaker 12: Anytime you have taxpayer dollars going out, it's not my

833
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 12: money for your money, it's our collective money that is

834
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Speaker 12: going in. And the state then is abusing the system

835
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Speaker 12: by allowing for something like this to occur. We have

836
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Speaker 12: to audit every welfare program. I have not looked into

837
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Speaker 12: medical transport.

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Speaker 11: I am up to my.

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Speaker 12: Ears between individuals that have come out as whistleblowers that

840
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 12: are giving me evidence. But one hundred percent, I mean,

841
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Speaker 12: this is a systematic issue with the American system of welfare,

842
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 12: and so we have to look at ourselves to and

843
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Speaker 12: say what did we do wrong and how do we

844
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Speaker 12: fix it? But we can't say it's the cost of

845
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Speaker 12: doing business. We actually have to roll up our sleeves

846
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Speaker 12: and do something different otherwise this is a definition of

847
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Speaker 12: insanity to me.

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Speaker 4: You used the term cost of doing business. There was

849
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Speaker 4: an interview that one of the PR directors for Governor

850
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Speaker 4: Mike DeWine who said that some fraud is the cost

851
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Speaker 4: of doing business. And when I saw that, I thought,

852
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Speaker 4: are you kidding me? How's that a cost of doing business?

853
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Speaker 4: And I guess, as in ohioan most of the other

854
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Speaker 4: states are blue cities, blue state completely controlled by the

855
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Speaker 4: Democratic Party. Ohio is the only state which is a

856
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Speaker 4: so called republican state having similar problem. Since you live here,

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Speaker 4: are you particularly concerned that if the state government is saying, well,

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Speaker 4: fraud is the cost of doing business, that's a problem.

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Speaker 11: It is.

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Speaker 12: I don't accept the status quo. And look, I believe

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Speaker 12: every bureaucrat that tells me that they did the audits

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Speaker 12: through paperwork. But my problem with the audit system is

863
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Speaker 12: it's broken. When you go into a daycare and you

864
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 12: see feces, you see bottles that haven't been cleaned, you

865
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 12: see there's no betting crib blood stains on sheets, and

866
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 12: then you allow them to operate on a conditional license

867
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Speaker 12: and don't come back for three to five months. That's

868
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 12: a red flag that means our system is broken. The

869
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 12: cost of fraud is exponential. And I have to ask

870
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 12: any person listening today, when you get a thirty dollars

871
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 12: charge on your whether it's Chase Bank or any bank

872
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 12: you use, and it's not your charge, I guarantee you

873
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 12: ninety eighty percent of the audience called the bank to

874
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 12: say this wasn't my charge. So imagine if it's millions

875
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 12: of dollars, you don't think the government has a duty

876
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 12: to protect us, because if they're rolling up their sleeves

877
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 12: and saying our hands are clean, I have a huge

878
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 12: issue with that because they're then complicit by giving our

879
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 12: tax dollars and not protecting us.

880
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Speaker 4: May Cook. I also spoke to the state office holders.

881
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Speaker 4: I'll reference the auditor, the attorney general of the Governor's office,

882
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 4: and they're saying this can't happen in Ohio in a

883
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 4: broad fashion because we don't deal with enrollment. We deal

884
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 4: with attendance. And so that's the key hook they hang

885
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 4: their hat on that there's not massive fraud because we

886
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Speaker 4: have an attendance. When you go to these so called

887
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Speaker 4: daycare centers, how much attendance do you see?

888
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 11: Not much? And here's here's the key to attendance today.

889
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 12: When I asked, if I forget to enroll my child

890
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 12: as they're walking through the door because I was running

891
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 12: with their lunchbox, how do I change the attendance? They

892
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 12: said that every administrator can go back and change attendance numbers.

893
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 12: They just have to use a phone number and they're

894
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Speaker 12: able to do it. And by the way, most of

895
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,919
Speaker 12: these compliance reports that I've read, the biggest issue is attendance. Well,

896
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Speaker 12: if the biggest issue is attendance, are you paying them

897
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Speaker 12: State of Ohio or are you not? And if you're

898
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Speaker 12: allowing people to change attendance records, that's another red flag.

899
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 12: So again there's loopholes, and you can't just strictly stay

900
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 12: based on attendance. We know that they're doing everything they

901
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 12: should be doing. That's like a cover up of your

902
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 12: audit system. Why not ask the question why are people

903
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 12: changing the numbers.

904
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Speaker 11: Of enrollment if they've.

905
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Speaker 12: Forgotten to check in their child, that sounds like a

906
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 12: loophole to me. And secondly, if it purely is attendance,

907
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 12: who's checking those records? Are you checking records at midnight?

908
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 12: I don't know any state officeholder who's working until midnight?

909
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 10: Do you no?

910
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 4: Not exactly now? I don't think so. And medicaid fraud

911
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 4: is another thing, right for the abuse and the somalis.

912
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 4: In a sense, individual somalis that are here under temporary

913
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 4: protective status, and most of a lot of that's been pulled,

914
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 4: are simply part of a system. They may be in

915
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 4: their own minds there think they came from a war

916
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 4: ravaged country where most Somalis at home live in garbage dumps,

917
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 4: and they come here and all of a sudden, they

918
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 4: may think themselves, this is like part of the deal,

919
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 4: this is what living in America is that I get paid.

920
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 4: And so I like to think there's some innocence on

921
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Speaker 4: the behalf of individual Somalis, for example, because they don't

922
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 4: know what they're doing. Do you have some empathy for

923
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 4: individuals who think this is the way we operate.

924
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 11: One hundred percent.

925
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 12: I set down with the Somalian business owner that didn't

926
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Speaker 12: want to be on camera because she didn't have the

927
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 12: best English. I thought she was perfectly fine, who shared

928
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 12: that she immigrated, went to the Ohio State University, graduated.

929
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 12: One of her kids is going to be a doctor,

930
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 12: the other one is still working. She owns the daycare today,

931
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 12: She owns and operates it. She's ethical and above board.

932
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 12: She walked through the entire process of the check in

933
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 12: and how kids it's all based on attendance. But again

934
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 12: I can have empathy but still ask questions. And the

935
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 12: one thing that raised a red flag to me is

936
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Speaker 12: she said that every parent that comes in with their

937
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 12: child checks in. I saw a parent walk in and

938
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 12: they didn't check in their child. Now is she going

939
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 12: to go back and audit that and add a child

940
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 12: checked in? I mean, this is where there's a problem

941
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 12: with the States system. They think it's so strong. I

942
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 12: don't I challenge that. And I'd like to have them

943
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 12: sit down with the US Attorney's office and go through

944
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 12: all of.

945
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 11: The issues that we have with their audit process. It's

946
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,479
Speaker 11: not just me claiming issues. I bet you.

947
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 12: Other attorneys and auditors and tax experts could sit there

948
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 12: and school them on the issues. But yes, I have

949
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 12: empathy for any immigrant community that's trying to achieve the

950
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 12: American dream. I don't have empathy for somebody who is

951
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Speaker 12: committing fraud, assault, or intimidating anybody out there, including me.

952
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 4: All right, now, a couple more quick inquiries. One is

953
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 4: that I'm told by state officials about fifty percent of

954
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 4: the Medicaid and daycare and autism and food stamps are

955
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Speaker 4: paid by the state and about fifty percent paid by

956
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Speaker 4: the Feds. The Feds are not the investigator, so to speak.

957
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 4: Each state should have their own investigation. I would also

958
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 4: note that the permanent representative of Somalia to the United

959
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 4: Nations is linked to a home healthcare agency in Cincinnati,

960
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Speaker 4: Ohio that was prosecuted for Medicaid fraud. His name is

961
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 4: Akbar d'had Osman. And according to Health and Human Services

962
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 4: that the actual ambassador from Somalia who as at the

963
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 4: United Nations is linked to a fraud in Cincinnati, Ohio.

964
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 4: And I would ask, well, I live here. Why isn't

965
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 4: that a bigger story? When the UN ambassador is part

966
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 4: of the fraud from Somalia, isn't that a big story?

967
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 11: Yes, he's blacked.

968
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 12: I mean, everybody's scared of being called racist today and

969
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 12: we have to stop. I don't care what anybody looks like.

970
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 12: I don't care what anybody sounds like. If you're committing fraud,

971
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 12: it's wrong. And every news station should be asking questions

972
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 12: the fact that they're not racist red flags. I mean,

973
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 12: I went to the Somalian Education Resource Center and let

974
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 12: me tell you, four different offices and I finally found

975
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 12: the forty two million dollar door with a group of

976
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 12: friends and there was nobody there. Lights out, And we

977
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 12: have questions about what they did with the fourteen million

978
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 12: dollars they received in the state of Ohio in twenty

979
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 12: twenty five. Nobody's answering our questions. But at some point

980
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 12: we have to get reporters and real journalists who want

981
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 12: the truth to ask these questions and stop fearing the

982
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 12: loudest critics because the loudest critics definitely have something to hide,

983
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 12: and race baiting is no longer acceptable. I mean, look

984
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 12: at what sham Bondi did. She didn't care what anybody

985
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 12: looked like. She is indicting in Minnesota. We have to

986
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 12: do the same thing here. If there's fraud, deal with

987
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 12: a conduct and not color. There's TSA agents in Minneapolis

988
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 12: who testified that they had suitcases filled with American cash

989
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 12: one hundred dollars bills going to Somalia. We also have

990
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 12: circumstances where in Minnesota the daycare providers who are Somali's

991
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 12: gave to the state Democratic Party in Minnesota twenty four

992
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 12: million dollars. Not too many daycare providers that are legitimate

993
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 12: are spending off that kind of money. It's a protection

994
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 12: racket operated by the Democratic Party to keep them in power.

995
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 12: Maya Cook, we have to run what is your website?

996
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 12: How to those who want to be whistleblowers get a

997
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 12: hold of you. Anybody can email me at cookfro Ohio

998
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 12: at gmail dot com. It's Cook with an E. Please

999
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 12: include evidence and information. We're getting a lot of tips.

1000
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 8: And my.

1001
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 12: Handle on Twitter is just at mahak Cook or Instagram.

1002
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 12: That's where I've done a lot of the posting. And

1003
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 12: I appreciate everybody who is trusting me. I'm never going

1004
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 12: to share their name with the state and be protective,

1005
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 12: continue to work with them to get to the bottom

1006
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 12: of this.

1007
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 4: Bill Cunningham, the Great American Live with you every Sunday Night. Bye,

1008
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 4: Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Then Maya Cook has a

1009
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 4: great future at Fox News. I'm certain she'll be there soon.

1010
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 4: Coming up next, I'm going to put a call in

1011
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 4: the Joshua Philip about what's happening in Venezuela. And now

1012
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 4: it's going to affect not just freedom in South America,

1013
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 4: but the ripples affect all over the country. And he's

1014
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 4: with epic times. Bill Cunningham, the Great American with you

1015
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 4: and all great Americans every Sunday Night. By Billy Cunningham,

1016
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 4: the Great American. Of course, the last several days has

1017
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 4: been incredible when it comes to international relations and also

1018
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 4: what's happening, whether it's Minneapolis or Portland or Somalia and

1019
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 4: the fraud there, but also Venezuela. A few days ago,

1020
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 4: the new leaders of Venezuela released certain political prisoners. And

1021
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 4: now every time I see a Democratic senator of being interviewed,

1022
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 4: it's a terrible disaster to take over Maduro. When of

1023
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 4: course Biden was in power, it was a great idea

1024
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 4: to get rid of a macduro. Now they're questioning it,

1025
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 4: but I can't imagine a more successful takeover of a government.

1026
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 4: And more, shall I say, the arrest of someone involved

1027
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 4: in massive drug trafficking. That what the Delta team performed

1028
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 4: several days ago. Jonah, you and I now is Joshua

1029
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 4: Phillip of Epic TV. He's a great award winning journalist

1030
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 4: and senior investigative reporter, and he laid out in his

1031
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 4: column and also an Epic TV the headlines Venezuela is

1032
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 4: an Iceberg. What lies beneath oil, cocaine, communism, corruption, terrorism

1033
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 4: and power. And once again, Joshua Phillip, welcome to the

1034
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 4: Bill Cunningham Show, and just give me the overview from

1035
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 4: your perspectives. Happened in Venezuela. How good it is in

1036
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 4: every aspect of American foreign relations, and where we go

1037
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 4: from here, Joshua Philip, give me a full report.

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00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 9: All right, So let me let me let me start

1039
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 9: off with what you were saying. This was bipartisan. This

1040
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 9: was a bipartisan issue when Biden was president. Joe Biden

1041
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 9: his administration put a twenty five million dollars price on

1042
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 9: Nicholas Maduro's head, Right, So not only not only should

1043
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 9: they not be making this a partisan thing, technically they

1044
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 9: should pay Trump twenty five million dollars for capturing him.

1045
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 10: Right, Let break that down.

1046
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 4: I'm not sure that's going to happen. I have my doubts.

1047
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, probably not, probably not. Maybe maybe go to the

1048
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 9: Delta operators. Right, but on that front, get this, so,

1049
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 9: I would actually say that the capture of Maduro is

1050
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 9: more significant than just drugs or oil, because, in my opinion,

1051
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 9: the Trump administration could probably do a bit better on

1052
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 9: explaining this. Bru basically was working with the cartels, right,

1053
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 9: he was the head of the cartel, the Sons, but

1054
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 9: Duro was working with Iran Cartelsen's also a terrorist organization.

1055
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 9: Hezbola and Hamas have huge influence there. He was giving

1056
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 9: visas to them. They were giving visas to them so

1057
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 9: they could travel freely all through the region. He was

1058
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 9: using diplomatic planes and passes to traffic drugs into Mexico.

1059
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 9: According to the criminal complaint, he was also it was

1060
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 9: technically the guy before m Hugo Chap has pushed the

1061
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 9: United States out of most of Latin America, working together

1062
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 9: for Delcaster in Cuba. They established many multi governmental organizations

1063
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 9: throughout Latin America that rejected the United States, pushed out

1064
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 9: of the United States, and then brought in Chinese and

1065
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 9: Russian influence. So while they were saying get the gring

1066
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 9: goes out, they signed over four hundred deals with the

1067
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 9: Chinese Communist Party, over two hundred deals of the Russians,

1068
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 9: and they imported them. And then they created organizations and

1069
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 9: programs all throughout Latin America to make everybody else do

1070
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Speaker 9: the same thing. And so now that Trump is trying

1071
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Speaker 9: to restore them in road doctrine or they were hesails

1072
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 9: of the don road doctrine now where they don't want

1073
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Speaker 9: to have, you know, foreign influence. You know, if you're

1074
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Speaker 9: in Europe or China, you don't belong in Latin America.

1075
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Speaker 9: They want to push this out because there's been a

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Speaker 9: big political game and basically China, especially with the Beltman

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Speaker 9: Roads initiative, it's it's major infrastructure investment programs, which which

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Speaker 9: work on debt traps, so countries become effectively slaves to them.

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Speaker 9: They have to send them that for resources like Venezuela

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Speaker 9: and oil, which they were doing. For example, Venezuela was

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Speaker 9: that was the pilot program. Venezuela is a testing ground

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Speaker 9: for that, and I call that all goes back to

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Speaker 9: Hugo Javas. So if you're going to get rid of

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Speaker 9: that entire network, if you're going to get rid of

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Speaker 9: the CCP infiltrate in the region, corrupting the region, feeding

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Speaker 9: even the cartels in drug trade, which they are, you

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Speaker 9: need to get rid of Maduro because MCDUA was handpicked

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Speaker 9: by Javas and Maduro basically carried the torch of both

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Speaker 9: Javas and Fidel Castrum.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you kind of look at this down the road.

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Speaker 4: It's brilliant, it's unbelievable. It's brilliant because at this point

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Speaker 4: you have a Venezuela who might play ball with capitalism

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Speaker 4: and not communism. It was the headquarters for a long time,

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Speaker 4: believe it or not of Hesbela in South America. There

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Speaker 4: was Iranian connections, there was Hesbla connections, there were Chinese

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Speaker 4: Communist Party connections, there were Russian connections, Iranian connections, and

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Speaker 4: at this point it appears the Venezuelan people now have

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Speaker 4: a chance to recover after I don't know, twenty five

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Speaker 4: years of democratic socialist rule like which is coming to

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Speaker 4: New York City with Mamdani and so long term. This

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Speaker 4: is brilliant. And because it's so brilliant, the crist on

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Speaker 4: the left is awful. And just on the issue of oil,

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Speaker 4: I had on an expert earlier and the other day

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Speaker 4: Jason Icy who talked about oil reserves, which is a factor.

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Speaker 4: But mainly it's freeing the Venezuelan peace people from the

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Speaker 4: boot of democratic socialism. It's kicking out of South America.

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Speaker 4: I call it the Donroe doctrine. The Chinese, the Russians,

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Speaker 4: the Iranians kicking them out and maybe in five to

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Speaker 4: ten years from now, Venezuela could be the most prosperous

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Speaker 4: country again in South America, which it was. I saw

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Speaker 4: this report in the Wall Street Journal that in nineteen fifty,

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Speaker 4: Venezuela was the fourth most powerful country in the world economically,

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Speaker 4: right behind the United States, Switzerland, New Zealand. Number four

1114
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 4: was Venezuela. The potential is incredible. And why going back

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Speaker 4: to twenty five years, why has Venezuela, why did it

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Speaker 4: become critical to Iran's operations in Western Hemisphere and also

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Speaker 4: China and Russia. Why was it so critical at that point?

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Speaker 9: Well, so the United States and some mid eighteen hundreds

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01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 9: or early eighteen hundreds had they had a policy called

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Speaker 9: the Monroe Doctrine, and this effectively said no new European

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Speaker 9: colonies in the Americas, that means North America, South America,

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Speaker 9: and Central America. That was enforced first of all against

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Speaker 9: Western Europe and the you know, the colonization at the time.

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Speaker 9: Later on during the Cold War, it was enforced against

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Speaker 9: the Russians and the Chinese, the exception to that being Cuba.

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Speaker 9: Mainly that was the basis of the Cuban Missile crisis.

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Speaker 9: We blocked them from bringing nuclear missiles to Cuba. And again,

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Speaker 9: basically Chavez was the guy who overthrew, overthrew all that.

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Speaker 9: And not only that, but again it wasn't about and

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Speaker 9: this was the argument. They're like, well, America invaded Venezuela.

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Speaker 9: People there, including the opposition, we were saying no Venezuela

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Speaker 9: was already invaded. You had the studio, you had the

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Speaker 9: Chinese controlling most of the natural reion that most, but

1134
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Speaker 9: a lot of the natural resources. You have the Chinese

1135
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Speaker 9: build and gain control of the critical infrastructure, you know,

1136
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Speaker 9: basically control in the country. The Chinese Communist Party, through

1137
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 9: the Belt of Road initiative, gets countries make bad deals,

1138
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 9: oftentimes bribing off the official because they know it's a

1139
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Speaker 9: bad deal, they default on it. When they default on it,

1140
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Speaker 9: they have to give them instead of paying interest on

1141
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 9: a loan, you have to give them, you know, tons

1142
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 9: of oil. You have to give them critical minerals. You

1143
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 9: have to give them timber, you have to give them

1144
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 9: natural like via ore. And they do this country by country,

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01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 9: region by region and effectively turn them into vassal states.

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Speaker 9: The CCP was taking over Latin America and to a

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01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 9: large extent already has. And what is the condition now

1148
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 9: of Trump going in there for the if the new

1149
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 9: leadership wants to be able to get rid of the

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01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 9: distinctions and oil, what's the condition the condition is you

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Speaker 9: have they have to push out Russia, they had to

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01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 9: push out China, that to push out Cuba, and that

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01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 9: to push out Iran. And as you mentioned, Iran has

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Speaker 9: a lot of influencer not even not even just in Venezuela.

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Speaker 9: Iran is extremely influential throughout Latin America. They have they

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Speaker 9: have literal Hesbela political parties in some countries, for example,

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Speaker 9: in Peru they they have a Hesibla political parties. Hesbela

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Speaker 9: even works with the cartels. I had very good information

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Speaker 9: many years ago that they were even working with the

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Speaker 9: Mexican cartels. They were teaching them i eds, how to build,

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Speaker 9: how to build you know, improvised explosive devices, and they

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Speaker 9: were also teaching them how to do some of the

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Speaker 9: tunnel building for drug trafficking. At a lot of that

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Speaker 9: was was through Hesbela. And so American national security has

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Speaker 9: been massively undermined by these organizations that have infiltrated the

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Speaker 9: entire region, that are poisoning Americans, killing more Americans every

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Speaker 9: single year than were killed in the entire Vietnam War.

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Speaker 9: And let that sink in working together laudering the money

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Speaker 9: through Chinese banks being provided with it by China, precursor

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Speaker 9: chemicals like even for methan, fetamine and synthetic drugs extensional

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Speaker 9: and of course also running the ports that this was

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Speaker 9: a giant game and they were all in on it.

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01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 9: In America, we were the big fools trying to pretend

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Speaker 9: that it's just the gang's doing it, and that was

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Speaker 9: never the case. This was an intergovernmental policy mental wage,

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Speaker 9: unconventional war against the United States while undermining US, while

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Speaker 9: turning all the governments against US. And that was the

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Speaker 9: legacy of Javas. But Maduro inherited that.

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Speaker 4: And Joshua Phillips talk about those around Maduro, I hear

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Speaker 4: the radical left in this country talk about well, in

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Speaker 4: a sense, Maduro is still in power because those he

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Speaker 4: put in power is still in power. And of course

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Speaker 4: Maduro's in Rikers Island. He went to bed in Caracas,

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Speaker 4: woke up in Rikers Island. What about the new president,

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Speaker 4: the interim president, the old the female vice president, what

1186
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 4: about the military leadership, what about the politicians that run Venezuela.

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01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 4: Is the same Maduro crowd in charge of Venezuela today

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Speaker 4: as they were a week ago. That's an argument of

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Speaker 4: the radical left that really nothing's changed in Venezuela.

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Speaker 9: Relatively so, only because there's an interim period right now.

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01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 9: So this is going to be the picture. The Trump

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01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 9: administration is saying that America is going to basically run

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Speaker 9: Venezuela for probably years. People are saying, well, what about

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01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 9: Iraq Is it's the same thing. No, because we're not

1195
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 9: fighting an insurgency, we're not fighting terrorists. We're dealing with

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01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 9: people who want to better life. Most of them don't

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Speaker 9: support the government, and the government is literally a cartel.

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Speaker 9: It's the cartel of the Sons. The generals, the other

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Speaker 9: leaders are designated terrorists by the United States because they're

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01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 9: also tied in with the Cartel of the Sons. Every

1201
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 9: one of those guys has a little ticking time or

1202
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 9: hanging over his head. And so we'll have to see

1203
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 9: what Trump does. They have not acted that strongly against

1204
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 9: them yet, but I think they will, and I think

1205
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 9: they need to. They don't seem to be very concerned

1206
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 9: about it either. Let's put it that way. Trump's meeting

1207
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Speaker 9: with the leader of the Columbia soon, Petro, and that

1208
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 9: will also eliminate a lot of the guerrilla forces. So

1209
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 9: the whole thing is the whole thing is shifting. You

1210
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 9: have these guys basically dancing around and putting on a show,

1211
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 9: but they don't have any power anymore. It's game over already.

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Speaker 4: I watched Senator Ted Cruz, whose father was born in Cuba,

1213
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Speaker 4: talk about what's going to happen in Avanak, what's going

1214
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Speaker 4: to happen now in Cuba. I said years ago that Cuba,

1215
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 4: once it becomes capitalistic, once it becomes freedom, will be

1216
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 4: the fifty first state. Cuba is right for the downfall

1217
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 4: of the democratic socialists who run Cuba. Can you talk

1218
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,440
Speaker 4: about the impact on Cuba with the fall of Maduro's

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01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 4: government to.

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Speaker 9: The Cuban communist regime if Russia or China were Iran basically, basically,

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01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 9: if they don't bail them out right now, which I

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01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 9: don't think they will because America is a whole blockade

1223
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 9: in that area now, the Cuban regime will likely fall.

1224
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Speaker 9: Would I would actually give it within the next two months.

1225
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 9: I would say within the next two months, the Cuban

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01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 9: regime will fall with that without outside intervention. And the

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01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 9: main reason is this, and this is this is what

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01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 9: the Trump adminstration is saying. Also, they're saying we can

1229
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Speaker 9: do nothing. We could sit back and do nothing and

1230
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 9: they will fall on their own. Why is that This

1231
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,919
Speaker 9: actually goes into one of the reasons why Hugo Javes

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01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 9: worked so closely with thedel Castro. Basically, this was all

1233
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 9: post post Cold War policies. After the fall of the

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01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 9: Soviet Union, the Cuban regime was basically being propped up

1235
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 9: by the Soviets. The Soviet Union collapsed, the money dried up,

1236
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 9: the support dried up, and they needed an economy they

1237
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 9: didn't have one, and so they actually they actually made

1238
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 9: a deal with Venezuela at the time. Again that was

1239
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 9: Javas and Venezuelan oil, Venezuelan trade, Venezuelan exchange is what

1240
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 9: kept Cuba going. Cuba militarily is not very strong, Cuebe

1241
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,799
Speaker 9: economically is not very strong. But in Latin America, Cuba

1242
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:00,759
Speaker 9: in terms of intelligence, infiltration and that type of stuff

1243
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 9: is extremely strong. They actually are some of the major

1244
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 9: hands behind the cartels in drug trade, working together with

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Speaker 9: China on that. By the way, they also Cuba they

1246
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 9: actually have a lot of governmental influence. Accusations that many

1247
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 9: government officials are working as pseudo Cuban agents, Accusations in Brazil,

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Speaker 9: for example, the Cuban agents have taken over a lot

1249
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 9: of their military accusations in Venezuela. Actually, so they were

1250
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 9: controlling the politicians. And what happens when Delta Force goes

1251
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 9: in there. They killed what like more than two dozen

1252
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 9: Cuban agents around Maduro. How did that happen? So the

1253
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 9: jig is up? You know again, this is game over

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01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 9: for Cuba right now.

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine Delta four shows up. Maduro said a

1256
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 4: few weeks ago, Hey, gringo, come get me. You know

1257
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 4: where I am, Come get me. And he goes to sleep,

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01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,879
Speaker 4: I assume with his wife, and all of a sudden

1259
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,520
Speaker 4: he wakes up in Rikers Island and according to Cuba,

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Speaker 4: thirty to forty Cuban soldiers were killed protecting Maduro, who

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Speaker 4: didn't trust his own soldiers to protect him. This was

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01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 4: on a Venezuelan military base. And somehow all the Cuban

1263
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:16,759
Speaker 4: soldiers are dead. Not one Delta Force warrior was killed.

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Speaker 4: And if I'm sitting in Claudia Shinbaum in Mexico, if

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01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 4: I'm sitting some other government and I'm thinking, what impact

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Speaker 4: about minute remaining? Joshua Philip of Epic TV Minute remaining.

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01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,799
Speaker 4: What are the reverberations around the evil parts of the world.

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Speaker 4: Is that what Donald Trump and America's military can do.

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01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 4: What's the fallout, in.

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Speaker 9: My opinion, a lot of shock and awe, because you know,

1271
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 9: they realized last time twenty eighteen, Russia and China bailed

1272
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 9: them out. Russia sent strategic bombers down there when Trump

1273
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 9: was talk about intervention because they stole the Maduro stole

1274
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 9: the election, according to Trump. According to Trump and Biden

1275
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 9: and China worked on the diplomatic front. They're not doing

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01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 9: any thing right now Russia. Russia has no power beyond

1277
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 9: its supports. They can barely even deal with Ukraine. And

1278
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 9: they need North Koreans fighting the war because the guys

1279
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 9: have died so much. They have no power anymore. China

1280
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 9: can be destroyed in the day economically with with tariffs.

1281
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 9: Trump knows that they know it. They're not going to

1282
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 9: do anything, and so what you're watching is literal shock

1283
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 9: and don In fact, the Chinese delegation was there when

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Speaker 9: they abducted Maduro. They probably they probably did it right

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Speaker 9: in front of them.

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Speaker 4: It's unbelievable if somebody this is so good. That's why

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Speaker 4: the Democrats are so mad because it's so good. Well,

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Speaker 4: Joshua Philip, we got to go epictv dot com. You're

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Speaker 4: the best on this stuff. And once again thanks for

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Speaker 4: coming on the Bill Cunningham Show and continue to follow

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Speaker 4: this thing. We'll check in with you later and may

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Speaker 4: God bless you and God bless America. Joshua, thank you

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Speaker 4: very much.

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Speaker 9: Thank you appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: God bless you all. Let's continue with more shock and

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Speaker 4: all Trump style. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night,

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Speaker 4: Billy cunning into Great America. What a cavalcated, great guest,

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Speaker 4: I have this Sunday night. You know a few hours

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Speaker 4: ago it was announced that the FED chairman might be

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Speaker 4: the subject of a federal criminal indictment. And if that happens,

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Speaker 4: all hell's going to break loose. And now we find

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Speaker 4: out from many sources that Cuba and Columbia have been

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Speaker 4: asked to come to the White House to join the

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Speaker 4: President to work things out one way or another. What's

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Speaker 4: happening in Iran is incredible, It's unbelievable. I pray for

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Speaker 4: the Iranian people and the five hundred or so that

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Speaker 4: have been murdered. I look at the situation in Ukraine.

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Speaker 4: That continues. We've had on guests before, like Jeff Krua

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Speaker 4: talked about Mexico being Mexico and that wherever we find

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Speaker 4: El Kada, we kill El Qaeda because they're a national

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Speaker 4: terrorist group. And the President has now designated the narco traffickers,

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Speaker 4: the Cineloa, drug cards, hell, etc. Is the same kind

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Speaker 4: of a terrorist. That means the President under this executive

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Speaker 4: order can eradicate them wherever they can be located. That means,

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Speaker 4: are we going to have the special sonic boom weapons

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Speaker 4: used in Venezuela use it against the drug traffickers in Mexico.

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Speaker 4: Will Claudia Shanbaum come to the White House and say,

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Speaker 4: we can't live like this anymore? According to the President,

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Speaker 4: Mexico is owned by the drug cartels. Al Qaeda has

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Speaker 4: killed far less people than Mexicans indirectly have allowed to

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Speaker 4: be killed because they're the transit point over which the drugs,

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Speaker 4: the precursors come from China get into Mexico and the

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Speaker 4: drug cartels use them to kill something like one hundred

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Speaker 4: thousand Americans every year. And Claudia Shanbaum, the President of Mexico,

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Speaker 4: says that's no big deal. We're not going to let

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Speaker 4: you interact whatsoever in Mexico. I hope she'll look at

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Speaker 4: what happened in Venezuela and understand that this president is

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Speaker 4: conducting a real war on drugs, and that war on drugs,

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Speaker 4: according to Jeff Crueir earlier tonight, may involve attacks inside Mexico.

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Speaker 4: Haven't been designated as a terrorist group. Is Cinela at

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Speaker 4: drug cartel, etc. Continue with more, Curtis House. A lot

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Speaker 4: of stuff up on NewsBusters dot Org. But the media

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Speaker 4: coverage of what's happening in Somaliland, what's happening in Minnesota

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Speaker 4: and more. And these always the best Bill Cunningham with

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Speaker 2: for his broadcast excellence, The one and Only Bill Cunningham.

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Speaker 4: By Billy Cunningham, the Great American. This Sunday Night and

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Speaker 4: Curtis Holk is one of the great chronicles of what's

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Speaker 4: happening in the mainstream media. He's executive editor of NewsBusters,

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Speaker 4: a great part of Media Research Center, And what Curtis

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Speaker 4: does is keep the record of what other industry, what

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Speaker 4: other media types are doing, and how they're reporting the news.

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Speaker 4: And I always say to Curtis and others, garbage in,

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Speaker 4: garbage out. When garbage goes in one direction, you're likely

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Speaker 4: that garbage coming out the other. And so he's written

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Speaker 4: a column at NewsBusters dot org about ABCNBCCBS, also NPR

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Speaker 4: and Curtis once again, welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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Speaker 4: And Curtis, may I recite to you a few of

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Speaker 4: the headlines I've noted that is similar to what you

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Speaker 4: have done, but I think it's going to provide some insight.

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Speaker 4: Are you ready for a couple of great headlines that

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Speaker 4: tell objectively what happened in Minneapolis? Are you prepared?

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir?

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Speaker 4: All right? New York Times? How about New York Times?

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Speaker 4: Is that the paper of records about headlined mother of three,

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Speaker 4: a poet, a guitarist, a prize winning activist who helped

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Speaker 4: her neighbors was shot and killed by ice. That's one.

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Speaker 4: Another one? How about the ap mother of three killed

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Speaker 4: by ice. How about NPR. We have whistles, they have guns,

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Speaker 4: said the wife of Renee Good. How about the BBC

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Speaker 4: Curtis HOWK prize winning poet and guitarist and a legal

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Speaker 4: observer is gunned down by ice. She was a loving

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Speaker 4: mother of three, She had a social conscience and ABC

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Speaker 4: reports quote she was made of sunshine, said her wife,

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Speaker 4: Becca Good. Now, if somebody would have watched the news

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Speaker 4: media coverage the last four or five days, what are

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Speaker 4: their visions of number one of miss Good and secondly

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Speaker 4: of the police officer. Give me a full report.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, I mean this is just absolutely pathetic. I mean,

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Speaker 13: completely devoid of the fact. Yes, she is the mother

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Speaker 13: of three, but she's not technically the custody of two

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Speaker 13: of them. She kind of gave that up when her

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Speaker 13: mind went to the woke virus that she started batting

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Speaker 13: for the other team, as in, she changed which gender

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Speaker 13: she was attracted to.

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Speaker 14: You know.

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Speaker 13: So it's all about emotion, Bill, I think that's the

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Speaker 13: through line in all of this. It's not talking about

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Speaker 13: what did she actually do with her car? You know,

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Speaker 13: what were the conditions, what were the moments leading up

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Speaker 13: to this that she was a chief antagonist. She was

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Speaker 13: part of an anti ice watch activist group that had

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Speaker 13: been following Ice around all day. You know that is

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Speaker 13: really the story here, not that she was a poet

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Speaker 13: and beloved individual who just somehow was you know, the

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Speaker 13: wrong place at the wrong time.

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Speaker 4: So this wasn't hot Ice hunting her down. I put

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Speaker 4: on my ex account the following. It is a federal

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Speaker 4: felony for a person to obstruct, impede, or interfere with

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Speaker 4: ICE in the performance of their duties. Did Renee Good

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Speaker 4: commit felonies? And did she ignore orders to vacate her car?

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Speaker 4: Plus does the video show she was struck she had

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Speaker 4: her car strike the body of the ICE official. She

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Speaker 4: committed more crimes? Was this shooting justified? And I caught

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Speaker 4: serious flag for that? And I have the statue available

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Speaker 4: here federally about what happens, what you're supposed to do

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Speaker 4: when you confront a police official, and what the police

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Speaker 4: official is going to do. And so to add on

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Speaker 4: what you said the ICE official in question, two of

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Speaker 4: them exited their vehicle, approached Good's marine maroon two ton.

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Speaker 4: I looked up the weight by the way, Curtis, it's

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Speaker 4: founds which she used to block the road deliberately, and

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Speaker 4: so we've seen I guess you've seen the videos of

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Speaker 4: her earlier that morning. The event took place about nine

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Speaker 4: to forty five am. Earlier that morning, she had spent

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Speaker 4: about an hour or two obstructing and impeding federal investigations,

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Speaker 4: and in doing so, she committed several felonies. In fact,

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Speaker 4: her car was perpendicular or vertical in the roadway, and

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Speaker 4: so what she was doing was impeding ice officials and

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Speaker 4: the performance of their law enforcement functions, which, by the way,

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Speaker 4: is a felony. And at the time those two officers

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Speaker 4: went up to her car, which was illegally blocking the roadway,

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Speaker 4: impeding ice officials, they said they used the F bomb

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Speaker 4: as they get out of the car. At that point

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Speaker 4: she was at least detained and maybe under arrest, and

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Speaker 4: so her wife walked around the back of the car,

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Speaker 4: as did the police officer who later would fire the shot.

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Speaker 4: And at that point, the police officer, I believe, based

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Speaker 4: upon what Christy Gnomes said this morning in some interview,

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Speaker 4: she was on the officer was on the shall we say,

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Speaker 4: the passenger side of the vehicle, and at that point,

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Speaker 4: because he needed to help his officers get Good out

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Speaker 4: of the car. What he did then was walk around

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Speaker 4: the front of the car, which was the direction that

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Speaker 4: he was heading. And at that point, when he got

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Speaker 4: to the front left headlighted is when the car alurts

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Speaker 4: backwards and then it lurts forwards, and at that point

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Speaker 4: he fired the fatal shot. And at that point, And

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Speaker 4: the media doesn't get into much of that, do they whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: And it's also worth noting the ICE agent and the

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Speaker 4: ICE agent involved in this, I'm reluctant to use his name,

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Speaker 4: but it's everywhere is now under supposedly a thread of

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Speaker 4: state criminal charges. I'll get into that bit later, but

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Speaker 4: that kind of a situation Curtis Hawk indicates to me,

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Speaker 4: at least as a lawyer, that he was justified in

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Speaker 4: shooting and Good is the one that put her in

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Speaker 4: that circumstances. Give us some ABC News stories on this

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Speaker 4: which didn't give us a whole bunch of shall we

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Speaker 4: say background.

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Speaker 13: Well, I'll just say too that the Minnesota Ice Watch

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Speaker 13: group that she belonged to, they had a series of

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Speaker 13: Instagram posts that trains activists from their pamphlets about how

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Speaker 13: to assault law enforcement, to swarm and pressure and open

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Speaker 13: their car doors, and they talk about each de arrest

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Speaker 13: being a micro into FADA to kind of somehow release

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Speaker 13: people from ICE custody. You know what really upset me

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Speaker 13: in some of the coverage was ABC was just completely

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Speaker 13: off the rails. ABC is live in the moments after

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Speaker 13: the shooting. They had this woman on, this never Trumper

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Speaker 13: who served for the president the first time and then

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Speaker 13: just became a deranged lunatic. She's part of the kind

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Speaker 13: of never Trump Jesus was a Democrat crowd.

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Speaker 9: She tries to suggest.

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Speaker 13: That it was only a matter of time before ice

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Speaker 13: killed someone, and she suggested without evance that this officer,

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Speaker 13: who had over a decade of experience in ice and

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Speaker 13: even longer in law enforcement, didn't know what he was

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Speaker 13: doing and he had no training whatsoever. And that's the

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Speaker 13: kind of rancorous speculation that we do not need in

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Speaker 13: our mainstream media. This is what the Vice President was

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Speaker 13: talking about when he said there were agents of propaganda.

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Speaker 13: And for the video on Friday from the officer to

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Speaker 13: come out and folks to roundly dismiss it like they

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Speaker 13: did on ABC and CNN, MS NOW on the like

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Speaker 13: is just pathetic Because I thought Bill when it comes

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Speaker 13: to the news business, you want as much information as possible.

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Speaker 13: But we've long learned the press are not interested in

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Speaker 13: certain facts because if it goes against their counternared that

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Speaker 13: they will suppress it or pretend it doesn't exist.

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Speaker 11: To begin with.

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Speaker 13: And I think that's really the key here, or if

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Speaker 13: they do want to acknowledge it. In the case of

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Speaker 13: this video that came out late last week, we'll just

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Speaker 13: say it was inconclusive. Inconclusive when really, I mean, I

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Speaker 13: think that definitely speaks volumes about what actually happened. You know,

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Speaker 13: the mayor saying he really wasn't hit, you know, was

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Speaker 13: a king. You know, her hitting him with his car

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Speaker 13: was a cane to you opening a refrigerator on your knee,

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Speaker 13: refrigerator door on your knee.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 13: CNN Darren Burnett's used the word bumped to miss Good

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Speaker 13: bumped ice agent with her car. That is a new one.

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Speaker 13: I didn't know that a bumped or a car was

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Speaker 13: really no big deal. But you know, or they say

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Speaker 13: that she was on armed. That's the last point I'll

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Speaker 13: make your bill is it's unarmed. This woman was unarmed. Well,

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Speaker 13: I don't care whether you're an eighty pound high schooler

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Speaker 13: or three hundred and fifty pound lineman in the NFL.

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Speaker 13: You get behind the vehicle, especially of a Honda Pilot

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Speaker 13: in suv like hers, you could be dead real fast.

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Speaker 4: In fact, there's about fifty thousand Americans who die every

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Speaker 4: year in vihiguro accidents, one way or another. And a

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Speaker 4: car comes in contact with a human being who might

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Speaker 4: weigh two hundred pounds, the car weighs four thousand pounds,

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Speaker 4: and Officer Jonathan.

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Speaker 13: Specially if it's the electric vehicle.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, unless it might weigh six thousand pounds. And he

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Speaker 4: was in a position where, you know, tactically maybe he

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Speaker 4: should not been in that position, but he had no

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Speaker 4: idea he was going to be in a life and

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Speaker 4: death situation where he'd have to make a split a

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Speaker 4: decision yay or nay, And he made a decision in

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Speaker 4: that position. And the law seems to indicate that he

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Speaker 4: was in the right now. Secondly, when all this began,

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Speaker 4: the radical left was talking about, well, you know, the

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Speaker 4: car never touched him, But when the videos came out,

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Speaker 4: at least two I've seen demonstrates he was hit by

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Speaker 4: that vehicle. And Thirdly, Christy Nomans said he went to

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Speaker 4: the hospital and was treated for injuries. And I would

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Speaker 4: imagine at the hospital there's going to be evidence of

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Speaker 4: the car striking his trouser and also evidence on his

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Speaker 4: left leg that he was hit. And an officer does

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Speaker 4: not have to wait in order to be hit to

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Speaker 4: far his weapon. If he perceives a risk to himself

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Speaker 4: for others, he has a duty to discharge his firearm,

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Speaker 4: and that's what he did in most of CNN's interview.

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Speaker 4: I watched this morning a lot of the replay of

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Speaker 4: the interview with Jake Tapper and Christy Noan basically attacking her.

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Speaker 4: And then he also head up next to Mayor Jacob

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Speaker 4: of the mayor of Minneapolis and the governor, and he

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Speaker 4: gave them softball questions. There's no question that if he

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Speaker 4: was struck by that car, it was a deadly situation

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Speaker 4: that demanded that he respond. And one other thing I'd

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Speaker 4: point out, Curtisock before we go on to NBC. You're

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Speaker 4: giving props to NBC A little bit about the Somali fraud,

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Speaker 4: which is the mainstream media's ignoring, is that the bullet,

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Speaker 4: the so called deadly shot, was head on that as

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Speaker 4: she was looking at police officer Jonathan Ross, when he

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Speaker 4: fired his weapon and hit her one time in the head,

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Speaker 4: and that was strictly about a foot above the bottom

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Speaker 4: of the windshield, about four inches to the left, and

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Speaker 4: that was the deadly shot. So she was looking at

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01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 4: him when she was shot. That demonstrates to me that

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Speaker 4: she had knowledge about what she was doing. She may

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Speaker 4: have tried to turn a little bit to the right,

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Speaker 4: but she did strike the police officer. And when you

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01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 4: strike a cop, I'm going to play later. I played

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01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 4: earlier kind of the comments of the police chief of Chicago.

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Speaker 4: His name is Larry Snelling, and I put it on

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Speaker 4: my ex account that when that happens, an officer as

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01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 4: a duty to respond to protect himself and others talk

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01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 4: about NBC a little bit. You'll give some good props

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Speaker 4: to NBC. Please explain that.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, in my case, what I'm seeing here

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Speaker 13: with Minneapolis was Tom Winter, the one guy there did

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Speaker 13: a really nice job. He talked about when he breaks

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01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 13: down these videos, what's going on is what do you

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01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 13: know and what do you not know? And sometimes I

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01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 13: think in this situation that's okay to say that we

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01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 13: don't know something or some of this looks bad, you know,

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01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 13: and so Molly fraud. You go to these daycares like

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01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 13: Nick Shirley did, and there's no kids there, and you're like, well,

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Speaker 13: there could be kids there, but it doesn't.

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Speaker 8: It sure doesn't look like it.

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Speaker 13: So then we want to know more. Ad many you

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01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 13: don't know something you or that we need to find

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01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 13: out more information about. Is not a sign of weakness.

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Speaker 13: In fact, I actually think that's good journalism. Yes, you

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Speaker 13: want to be first, but I think it's not the

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Speaker 13: rush to be first.

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Speaker 7: Bill.

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Speaker 13: What's going on with all of these stories is a

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01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 13: rush to cement a narrative. It's like the Michael Brown shooting.

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Speaker 13: You know how many months later it came out that

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Speaker 13: what the people were marching about, saying hands up, don't shoot,

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01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 13: burning Ferguson, Missouri to the ground was not true. So

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01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:14,799
Speaker 13: now this story, it's rushing out to cement a narrative,

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Speaker 13: just like you know the president is a Russian agent.

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01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:21,599
Speaker 13: To then when the facts actually come out and it's

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Speaker 13: the opposite of what the perceptive narrative was. You can't

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01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 13: put the toothpaste back of the tooth in.

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Speaker 4: A sense, Curtis Hawk, is this a godsend to the

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Speaker 4: fraudsters in Minneapolis who are receiving billions of dollars wrongfully,

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Speaker 4: that somehow this is off the front page. Also, Jeffrey

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01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,799
Speaker 4: Epstein matter, the media's given up on that one completely.

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Speaker 4: They've ignored that. They moved into the circus.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Tim Walls would have been in some conference, would

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01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 13: have spending his days in conference rooms talking to lawyers

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Speaker 13: if he was not out channeling his Democratic forefathers by

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Speaker 13: wanting to sick the National Guard on federal law enforcement.

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Speaker 4: Now there's no question that somehow the whole Jeffrey Epstein

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01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 4: matter doesn't matter anymore. The Russian collusion, delusion diaction, it

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Speaker 4: is a distraction. Venezuela. He did that to Madure is

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Speaker 4: a distraction, I would imagine. And it's wonderful to watch

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Speaker 4: the media coverage the great success in Venezuela as a failure.

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Speaker 4: Earlier today I watched the CNN report about what the

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Speaker 4: stupid idea was to remove Maduro. Then I watched it

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Speaker 4: was either on NewsBusters, your Side or others that played

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Speaker 4: all the comments of the Democrats for years who said

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Speaker 4: Maduro must go. But now that he's gone, the media

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Speaker 4: once in back and right now it was a mistake.

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Speaker 4: That was the most brilliant military operation maybe in the

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Speaker 4: history of the world, to have maybe twenty to forty

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Speaker 4: Delta soldiers go in there and remove Maduro, to use

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Speaker 4: some sort of sonic wave, and to have turn off

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01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:51,840
Speaker 4: all the lights, and to kill individuals as quickly as

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01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 4: they did who were trying to protect this guy. So

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01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 4: they have to come up with something else. Forget about Epstein,

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01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 4: forget about the Russian collusion delusion, forget about hands up,

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01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 4: don't shoot, forgot about all the crap we can beat

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Speaker 4: up Trump on the issue of Christy Nome and whether

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Speaker 4: this mother of three, who was a poet and a

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Speaker 4: guitarist should have been killed by an officer. Put yourself

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Speaker 4: in his shoes, the average officer, reasonable officer, I have

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Speaker 4: done exactly what Jonathan Ross did, which was to protect himself.

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Speaker 4: Would you agree.

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Speaker 13: That's a split second decision. And you know, sometimes journalists

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Speaker 13: get put in this position with different law enforcement stories

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Speaker 13: over the years, People, sensible folks that are allowed on

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01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 13: these networks from time to time will raise that issue. Well,

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01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:34,679
Speaker 13: you know, they have to make a split second decision.

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01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 13: What would you've done? Well, I'm not you know, a

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01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:40,559
Speaker 13: police officer. So basically I can prejudge them, you know,

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Speaker 13: I can hurt all sorts of insults. Well, I'm not

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Speaker 13: in their position, so no, no, no, that's that's the point.

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Speaker 13: That's the point to show how to talk about how

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Speaker 13: difficult it is to be in law enforcement.

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Speaker 4: Very difficult. And the comments of superintendent of police the

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Speaker 4: Chief Larry Snelling in Chicago was beautiful. He's out of

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01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 4: touch and I may he may not be either, long

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01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 4: from Brandon Johnson if he keeps saying essentially, he said

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Speaker 4: the officer was in a position that was put there

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Speaker 4: because of the behavior rene good the officer went to

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Speaker 4: work that they with no intent to do anything but

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01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 4: try to enforce the law. And much like the Confederacy

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01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 4: in the Old South, the Democrats want the Feds out

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01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 4: so they can do what they want to do. And

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01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,719
Speaker 4: they want to have their sanctuary cities and the sanctuary states,

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01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 4: which attract the worst kinds of gang bangers from all

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01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:25,600
Speaker 4: over the world because they know they're protected. And the

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01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 4: fact that Donald Trump is not backing down, I think

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01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 4: is a good thing. But the media doesn't like it whatsoever.

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01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 4: Curtis Hock, we have to run, but the headline is

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01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 4: mother of three killed by ice much like hands up,

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01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 4: don't shoot at some point, and I don't want to

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01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 4: diminish the idea that Rene Good should not be dead.

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Speaker 4: But she's dead because of her behavior and what he

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01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 4: put the officer in. And the officer, Jonathan Roscoe, will

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01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 4: go through hell for years to come. But once again,

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01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 4: exactly right, he's going to go through hell. You know,

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01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:59,639
Speaker 4: I have the liability of a federal officer under state

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01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:03,759
Speaker 4: law criminally is almost non existent. But whether he sued,

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01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 4: whether a new administration comes in down the road and

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01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:09,600
Speaker 4: then decides to indict him, his poor CoP's going to

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01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 4: go through a lot, and he was put in that

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Speaker 4: position because of the wrongful behavior of Rene Good. Curtis Hawk,

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Speaker 4: you're a great American. Thanks coming into the Bill Cunningham Show.

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Speaker 11: Thank you, no problem.

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Speaker 13: They'll take care.

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Speaker 4: God bless you. Let's continue with more. The line becomes

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Speaker 4: available eight sixty six six four seven seven three three

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Speaker 4: seven Bill cunning In The Great American with you every

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Speaker 4: Sunday Night, Billy cunning In the Great American. Curtis howck A,

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Speaker 4: NewsBusters dot Org also a meeting research center have their

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Speaker 4: recording devices going daily and the lack of coverage by

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Speaker 4: the so called mainstream media of the truth. What's happening

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Speaker 4: in Minnesota. Minneapolis is incredible. It's unbelievable. Somali refugees who

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Speaker 4: came here seeking a better life have been led by

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Speaker 4: those who loot the treasury for their personal benefit and

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Speaker 4: also benefits greatly. Believe it or not, El El Qaeda

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Speaker 4: and other terrorist groups. I've seen Senator Kennedy and others

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Speaker 4: talk about the incapability we have to stop these money transfers,

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Speaker 4: and thank god that Secretary Commerce, Scott Pisset has now

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Speaker 4: begun under an executive order, will stop transfers overseas through

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Speaker 4: individuals that are on welfare or food stamps or suffering

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Speaker 4: from autism. Are those who daycare centers? Think about that.

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Speaker 4: Normally this welfare benefits go to people in need and

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Speaker 4: if they can, if they can fly off them funds

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Speaker 4: to Somali land. At seventy five percent of what they

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Speaker 4: receive goes to the Horn of Africa. Something is seriously wrong.

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Speaker 4: Would you agree? Seriously wrong? So Scott Bissett is going

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01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 4: to stop the international transfer of our money the international

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Speaker 4: drug cartels. If one is on public assistance, five one

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Speaker 4: C three's ngngos have marginalized the ability of Americans to

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Speaker 4: help the needy, and they're hurting many individuals right now

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Speaker 4: they were intended to help. And so if somehow we

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Speaker 4: can stop the flow of billions of our dollars to

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Speaker 4: terrorist groups, why would we not do it? I certainly

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Speaker 4: hope we do. Let's continue with more. One other aspect

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Speaker 4: of this is it appears liberals in Washington have told

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Speaker 4: some of these NGOs to some of these liberal white females,

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Speaker 4: and may be time to become armed. That was said

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Speaker 4: by one of the officers that was injured in the

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Speaker 4: January sixth riot. Is time for this so called NGOs

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Speaker 4: and for the protesters to become armed, and that would

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Speaker 4: be sick. So coming up next is the Great John

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Speaker 4: Lite Bill Cunningham, the great American with you and all

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Speaker 4: great Americans every Sunday night, the Great John Lott Lott.

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Speaker 4: John Lott worked for years in the Trump administration in

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Speaker 4: the first term. He's an expert researcher when it comes

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Speaker 4: to guns and violence, more guns, less crime, and author

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Speaker 4: He's done many things, great degrees from many of the

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Speaker 4: great universities. And I noticed in the New York post back,

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Speaker 4: there was a big headline new data reveals the horrific

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Speaker 4: truth about illegal immigrant crime and John Lott, Welcome again

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Speaker 4: to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, John,

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Speaker 4: what I hear from the radical left, from CNN, MS

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Speaker 4: NOW so many others is that immigrant crime immigrants commit

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Speaker 4: fewer crimes than American citizens, and therefore they should be

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Speaker 4: welcome because there's such a benefit. We've had on guests before,

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01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 4: May Cook and many others Ken Blackwell et cetera talking

1708
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:37,440
Speaker 4: about the amount of illegal activities involving welfare, whether it's daycare, autism, medicaid,

1709
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 4: foods and fraud, home health fraud. It's massive. But one

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Speaker 4: thing that is a predicate of inviting into our country

1711
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Speaker 4: more citizens from third world countries is the fact they

1712
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:51,400
Speaker 4: don't commit crime. Can you tell the American people what

1713
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 4: are the facts about aliens, illegal aliens or immigrants committing

1714
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 4: crime relative to native born Americans. Give us a full report.

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Speaker 14: Right, thanks, Happy New Year. Look the type of data

1716
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 14: looking at immigrants as a whole mixes together illegal and

1717
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:14,760
Speaker 14: legal immigrants. Legal immigrants do tend to commit crime at

1718
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 14: very low rates. Unfortunately, illegal immigrants tend to commit crime

1719
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:24,559
Speaker 14: at extremely high rates compared to native born Americans. And

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01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 14: we can see this with some recent data that just

1721
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:28,959
Speaker 14: came out for the state.

1722
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 9: Of New York.

1723
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:30,639
Speaker 8: New York.

1724
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Speaker 14: ICE put out indicated that they had seven and thirteen

1725
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 14: detainers on those who are currently incarcerated in New York

1726
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:47,600
Speaker 14: State prisons in jails. You know, you're talking about individuals.

1727
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:50,680
Speaker 14: One hundred and forty eight were there for homicides, you

1728
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 14: had them there for child rape, hundreds, you know, seven

1729
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 14: hundred for assaults and so on. And the thing is,

1730
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 14: if you compare that to their share of the overall

1731
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:08,799
Speaker 14: prison and jail populations in the state, which is about

1732
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 14: fifty thousand people total there, that's fourteen percent. And you

1733
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 14: can compare that then to the share of the population

1734
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:21,839
Speaker 14: that illegals reportedly have in New York. The highest estimate

1735
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:24,599
Speaker 14: from Pew comes from Pew when they say it's about

1736
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 14: four percent. So you compare that fourteen percent to the

1737
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 14: four percent that they make up in the general population,

1738
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 14: they're way over represented. And the problem is that four

1739
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:40,679
Speaker 14: percent is very clearly an underestimate for many reasons. One

1740
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 14: reason is New York as a sanctuary state, is not

1741
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:50,600
Speaker 14: assisting ICE and identifying who might be an illegal who's

1742
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 14: incarcerated in the state. There also, as you may know,

1743
01:38:55,960 --> 01:39:01,800
Speaker 14: ice will go and stay at different courthouses for when

1744
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:05,760
Speaker 14: illegals are either convicted.

1745
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 9: Or whether they're charged with the.

1746
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:10,720
Speaker 14: Crimes, and pick them up and deport them right at

1747
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 14: that point, so they never make it in to the

1748
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 14: prison or jail populations in the state. CBS had a

1749
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:23,719
Speaker 14: report that just over a two month period this last year,

1750
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 14: just in New York City alone, there were four hundred

1751
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 14: and sixty of those illegal aliens who were picked up

1752
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 14: at the courthouse and deported at that stage. So, you know,

1753
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 14: four hundred and sixty just from two months, just from

1754
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:42,559
Speaker 14: one place in the state. You know that you can

1755
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 14: see that that seven than one hundred could be a

1756
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:48,760
Speaker 14: big underestimate. And there are other reasons we can go

1757
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 14: into too, but it's very clear, and you know, and

1758
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 14: this doesn't even take into account the almost seven thousand

1759
01:39:56,600 --> 01:40:00,720
Speaker 14: illegal aliens who had been convicted and served time in

1760
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:05,720
Speaker 14: prison in jails who were released this last year.

1761
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Speaker 4: Also, I look at these numbers according to the Homeland

1762
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 4: Security one hundred and forty eight homicides, seven hundred and

1763
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 4: seventeen assaults, one hundred and thirty four burglaries, one hundred

1764
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 4: and six robberies, two hundred and thirty six dangerous drug offenses,

1765
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:26,439
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty two weapons offenses, two hundred and

1766
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 4: sixty sexual predatory offenses. And you often talk about there's

1767
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:34,719
Speaker 4: a differential between crimes committed on one hand and arrest

1768
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 4: and conviction on the other, that the arrest and conviction

1769
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:41,360
Speaker 4: is a small number of the crimes committed. So explain

1770
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:42,880
Speaker 4: that to the American people.

1771
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Speaker 14: Right, Well, we know, in general, only about forty percent

1772
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:51,360
Speaker 14: of violent crimes and only about thirty percent to property

1773
01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 14: crimes are reported to police. And there are lots of

1774
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:57,680
Speaker 14: reasons for that. Whether or not people think that the

1775
01:40:57,720 --> 01:41:01,040
Speaker 14: people are going to be caught and punished has a

1776
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:04,800
Speaker 14: significant role in that. But this is particularly important when

1777
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 14: you're talking about crimes by illegals, and the reason is

1778
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:13,559
Speaker 14: that criminals tend to commit crimes against people who are

1779
01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:17,559
Speaker 14: similar to them. You know, ninety percent of blacks are

1780
01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 14: murdered by other blacks. Hispanics is about eighty percent are

1781
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 14: murdered by other Hispanics, for example. And if illegals tend

1782
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 14: to commit crimes against other illegals, which is pretty clearly

1783
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:35,040
Speaker 14: the case, not exclusively, but if they disproportionately tend to

1784
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 14: do that, then what happens is you're going to underrepresent

1785
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:49,360
Speaker 14: their share of reported crimes to police because illegals might

1786
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 14: be unwilling to go and report crimes to the police.

1787
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Speaker 4: No question about it, because they don't want to be

1788
01:41:56,640 --> 01:42:00,640
Speaker 4: identified as victims and maybe deported. So then ony one

1789
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 4: and fourteen number is a small number compared to the

1790
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 4: crimes committed. And I also would point out that you

1791
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 4: were involved in the Uvalde situation as far as talking

1792
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:14,200
Speaker 4: about the police and what they did and didn't do.

1793
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:17,719
Speaker 4: One of the officers is on trial in Uvalde, Texas

1794
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:23,559
Speaker 4: for not responding appropriately to that deranged criminal that went

1795
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:26,240
Speaker 4: into a classroom and killed a bunch of students and

1796
01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 4: there were no armed teachers. There's no one around in

1797
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 4: that situation, which feeds into many things you've said, which

1798
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:35,840
Speaker 4: means more guns, less crime. And so one thing that's

1799
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:38,640
Speaker 4: happened in my home state of Ohio is that there

1800
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Speaker 4: are local sheriffs who have trained personnel, like in Butler

1801
01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 4: County where Richard K. Jones, who are teachers vice principals

1802
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:49,719
Speaker 4: principals to discreetly carry weapons to make it less likely

1803
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 4: someone's going to pick that particular school to commit an offense.

1804
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 4: Another thing that weighs into this is sanctuary status of

1805
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:59,839
Speaker 4: cities and states right now, because if you're a sanctuary

1806
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:03,600
Speaker 4: city and you won't share information, like Minnesota, which is

1807
01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:06,719
Speaker 4: having terrible problems, and I'm glad that Governor Tim Waltz

1808
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 4: is not going to run for reelection. I fear the

1809
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 4: citizens of Minnesota would probably re elect him, and that

1810
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 4: there are many county jails and city jails that don't

1811
01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 4: share information. So instead of arresting someone with a federal

1812
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:23,959
Speaker 4: criminal warrant in prison, which is protecting of both parties,

1813
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:26,559
Speaker 4: they let them go and then once they get into

1814
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 4: the community, then there has to be an entire raid

1815
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:31,920
Speaker 4: to arrest someone with a warrant. So what are the

1816
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 4: dangers like in the blue cities and blue states when

1817
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:38,880
Speaker 4: they don't participate in the federal function of law enforcement?

1818
01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 4: And the act is if the Feds or shall I say,

1819
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:46,719
Speaker 4: an invading force. In fact, this incident with a ice

1820
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:49,760
Speaker 4: officials were tried to be rammed by a woman in

1821
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 4: a white pickup truck and she was shot and as

1822
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 4: a consequence, it creates havoc and turmoil, And so how

1823
01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 4: much easier is it. Do you have red cities, red

1824
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:05,639
Speaker 4: states that will tell the Feds this person is here,

1825
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:09,439
Speaker 4: we will honor your detainer pick them up. That's safer

1826
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 4: for everyone, correct, Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Of course.

1828
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:16,719
Speaker 14: Look, I mean, I think one of the reasons why

1829
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:20,760
Speaker 14: we've seen this huge record dropped in murders in the

1830
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:23,760
Speaker 14: United States, it looks like we're going to be on

1831
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 14: track for the lowest murder rate ever recorded in the

1832
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Speaker 14: US history.

1833
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:32,599
Speaker 10: This past year. It has to do with many things.

1834
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Speaker 14: You know, obviously, the FBI has doubled the number of

1835
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:38,040
Speaker 14: arrests this last year compared to what they were in

1836
01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 14: twenty twenty four. But also what Trump has been doing

1837
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 14: with regard to deporting criminal illegal aliens. You know, not

1838
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:49,599
Speaker 14: only do you go and you take the criminals off

1839
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 14: the street there, but even the ones that you haven't caught,

1840
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:56,599
Speaker 14: they don't want to get deported. And so what they

1841
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:59,240
Speaker 14: do is they want to keep off a police radar.

1842
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:01,320
Speaker 14: And how do you keep off of police radar. You

1843
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 14: stop committing or commit fewer crimes, so you're not going

1844
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:06,920
Speaker 14: to be as much of a target for the police

1845
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 14: to go after. And so you know, it's not a

1846
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:14,479
Speaker 14: coincidence that we've seen what looks like, at least for

1847
01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 14: the first nine months of the year as twenty percent

1848
01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 14: drop in murders. And my guess is when the data

1849
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 14: comes out for all the crimes it's coming September for

1850
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:31,559
Speaker 14: last year, it's going to show a big drop in

1851
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 14: violent crimes across the board. You just to give people

1852
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:39,440
Speaker 14: an idea of what we're talking about in terms of percentages.

1853
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 14: You know, we just had during the Biden administration the

1854
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:47,559
Speaker 14: largest percentage increase in violent crime over any four year

1855
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 14: period time that's.

1856
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 9: Ever been recorded.

1857
01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:54,360
Speaker 14: They went up by fifty nine percent. There's no time

1858
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 14: that's even remotely close to that. It's like a little

1859
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:02,120
Speaker 14: bit more than half or twice what it was previously.

1860
01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 14: And so you know, here, I think you're going to

1861
01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:12,920
Speaker 14: see violent crime reverse that trend that occurred. And with murders.

1862
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 14: In twenty twenty four, we had about five murders per

1863
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:21,960
Speaker 14: one hundred thousand people. The highest or the lowest that

1864
01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 14: we previously had was four point five per hundred thousand.

1865
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 14: But we're on track right now to have about four

1866
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 14: or slightly less than four per hundred thousand. That's a

1867
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:36,400
Speaker 14: huge that's a huge difference from one of the lowest

1868
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:38,120
Speaker 14: that we had ever previously recorded.

1869
01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:41,400
Speaker 4: And you point out in your story in the New

1870
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 4: York Post a few days ago, the Biden administration admitted

1871
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 4: the nine percent of the seven point four million non

1872
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 4: detained illegal immigrants at itally already had criminal records. And

1873
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:54,839
Speaker 4: you also point out in your story of the cost

1874
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:58,439
Speaker 4: we're worried about the cost of fraud somalis when it

1875
01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 4: comes to daycare or medicaid or food stamps or home health.

1876
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:05,360
Speaker 4: What are the costs just in one city or one

1877
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:09,400
Speaker 4: state in New York about housing illegals who commit crime?

1878
01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 4: And let's face it, the majority of people brought in

1879
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 4: by the Biden administration I contend illegally for those four years.

1880
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:20,559
Speaker 4: We're young, poorly educated, unattached males who are the formula

1881
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 4: for more crime being committed. But what are the costs

1882
01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 4: in New York City and New York State to the

1883
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 4: taxpayers that are born indirectly by all of us when

1884
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:32,519
Speaker 4: you start detaining thousands and thousands of illegal aliens shouldn't

1885
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:34,320
Speaker 4: be here in the first place. How much money does

1886
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:34,759
Speaker 4: it cost?

1887
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:37,599
Speaker 8: That costs a lot.

1888
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:40,360
Speaker 14: Look, we can't get an exact figure, because we don't

1889
01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:44,640
Speaker 14: know how many of these individuals that I issued detainers

1890
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:47,639
Speaker 14: on were in the prison system versus the jail system.

1891
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:52,000
Speaker 14: Those two systems have different costs of incarcerating people. But

1892
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:55,000
Speaker 14: if you the prison system costs are less, and if

1893
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 14: you assume that all of the illegals who are incarcerated

1894
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:02,400
Speaker 14: are incarcerated in the prison system, you're talking about a

1895
01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:06,240
Speaker 14: billion dollars a year. You know, that's a billion dollars

1896
01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:09,800
Speaker 14: a year the State of New York could save if

1897
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:15,320
Speaker 14: they let ice take those individuals and deport them. But

1898
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:19,840
Speaker 14: you know, you mentioned the data that finally came out

1899
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:24,320
Speaker 14: before the election in twenty twenty four showing that nine

1900
01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:28,360
Speaker 14: percent of the so called non detained individuals who were

1901
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 14: at least in the country had criminal records. The problem

1902
01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:35,640
Speaker 14: is that's clearly a huge underestimate. The reason is is

1903
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:41,560
Speaker 14: because many of those illegals came from countries like Venezuela

1904
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:46,599
Speaker 14: for example, that refused to provide information on the criminal

1905
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:51,160
Speaker 14: backgrounds of those individuals. So the buy An administration just

1906
01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:53,800
Speaker 14: put them down. As you know, we don't know whether

1907
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:58,120
Speaker 14: they had criminal backgrounds, and we know Venezuela for example,

1908
01:48:58,160 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 14: and other countries released people from prisons in jails in

1909
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:05,720
Speaker 14: order to have them come to the United States. They

1910
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:08,600
Speaker 14: were not exactly people that they wanted to go and

1911
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:11,799
Speaker 14: have to spend their own money on keeping in prison.

1912
01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 14: So you know, there are multiple reasons for you know,

1913
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:22,360
Speaker 14: the thing is, these non detained individuals were almost exclusively

1914
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 14: individuals who voluntarily turned themselves into the border. Those are

1915
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:29,679
Speaker 14: not the ones that you should be most concerned about.

1916
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:33,680
Speaker 14: You know, we had about two point one million so

1917
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:37,439
Speaker 14: called guidaways that came into the United States during the

1918
01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:41,120
Speaker 14: Biden administration. These are people that we saw coming across

1919
01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:45,000
Speaker 14: the border but we didn't catch, and then we have

1920
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Speaker 14: untold millions that we never even saw come across the border.

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Speaker 14: And the reason is is that the Biden administration had

1922
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Speaker 14: pulled seventy six percent of the border agents off of

1923
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Speaker 14: guarding the border and instead we're using them to go

1924
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Speaker 14: and process illegals. And also about thirty percent of the

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Speaker 14: passive monitoring equipment, the cameras and other things were broken

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Speaker 14: during the Buying administration and they were not fixing them.

1927
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Speaker 14: So between pulling agents off the border and having broken

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Speaker 14: equipment over large parts of the border that weren't even

1929
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Speaker 14: you know, monitoring people coming across. We have no idea

1930
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Speaker 14: how many more millions, And those are the ones that

1931
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Speaker 14: you should be most concerned about. There's a reason why

1932
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Speaker 14: they didn't turn themselves in at the border and get

1933
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Speaker 14: you know, the prepaid credit cards and get housing and

1934
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Speaker 14: get food and get you know, transportation to wherever in

1935
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Speaker 14: the country they wanted to go.

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Speaker 4: Well, I want to put a sharper point in something

1937
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Speaker 4: you say in the story in the New York Post.

1938
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Speaker 4: It's hardly surprising that violent crime serged by a record

1939
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Speaker 4: fifty nine percent during Joe Biden's four years in office,

1940
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Speaker 4: the largest percentage increase ever over any four year period

1941
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Speaker 4: in American history. This same time, the United States experience

1942
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Speaker 4: and then president influx of illegal aliens. It's almost as

1943
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Speaker 4: if one intends the logical consequences of one's behavior, which

1944
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Speaker 4: means Joe Biden, etc. Wanted to flood the country with illegals.

1945
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Speaker 4: Get them incorporated into societies largely all over the country.

1946
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Speaker 4: Give them daycare benefits, autism benefits, medical benefits, food stamp benefits,

1947
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Speaker 4: home health care benefits, get them registered to vote as

1948
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Speaker 4: quickly as possible. Minnesota has a system where a sponsor

1949
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:37,200
Speaker 4: can vouch for eight other people who are voting without

1950
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Speaker 4: an ID and that's how Democrats stayed in power. And

1951
01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:44,800
Speaker 4: in Minnesota, in one year, the so called daycare providers

1952
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:49,000
Speaker 4: gave to the Democrats twenty three million dollars in political donations.

1953
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Speaker 4: I don't know too many daycare providers throwing off that

1954
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Speaker 4: kind of money. It was a protection racket that's finally

1955
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:57,679
Speaker 4: going to be broken. We got to run John Lott

1956
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Speaker 4: Crimeresearch dot Org. All the doubt is there crimeresearch dot Org.

1957
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Speaker 4: And once again John Lott, thanks for coming on the

1958
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Speaker 4: Bill Cunningham Show and the truth will set us all free.

1959
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Speaker 4: John Lot, thank you very much.

1960
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Speaker 9: Thank you for being there.

1961
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Speaker 4: Bill, God bless you. Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham

1962
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Speaker 4: the Grand American live with you every Sunday night. No

1963
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Speaker 4: Billy cunning in the Great Night, Great American going out tonight.

1964
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Speaker 4: I want to thank everyone for listening. We're up to

1965
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Speaker 4: about five hundred and fifty stations and we try to

1966
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Speaker 4: cover the stories every Sunday night for what happened the

1967
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Speaker 4: previous week, what's coming up the next week. And I

1968
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Speaker 4: pray to God against all hope and wishes that the

1969
01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:37,679
Speaker 4: political leadership in Minnesota will say that you must follow

1970
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Speaker 4: the commands of federal law enforcement. You cannot obstruct or

1971
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Speaker 4: impede federal officials and the performers of their duties. If

1972
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,839
Speaker 4: you do so, guess what that is a federal felony

1973
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:51,960
Speaker 4: that carries up to five years in jail. And all

1974
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Speaker 4: it took was for Renee Good to follow the orders

1975
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Speaker 4: of federal officials who said get out of the car.

1976
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Speaker 4: If she would have done that, she would be alive today.

1977
01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:03,960
Speaker 4: And do not think you're part of some greater event

1978
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Speaker 4: than yourself. Live your life humbly, simply and allow federal

1979
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Speaker 4: law enforcement officials to enforce federal law. It is a

1980
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Speaker 4: lie that somehow sanctuary city or sanctuary state means you're

1981
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Speaker 4: exempt from the application of federal law.

1982
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Speaker 6: You are not.

1983
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Speaker 4: And I have great empathy for the law enforcement or

1984
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Speaker 4: working many times one hundred hours a week who have

1985
01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:28,800
Speaker 4: to put themselves at risk life and limb and you

1986
01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 4: have so little support from the local officials. The Minneapolis

1987
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Speaker 4: Police Department out to be one hundred percent in support

1988
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Speaker 4: of the federal officials to make sure they can do

1989
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Speaker 4: their job and do their job well. We want no

1990
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Speaker 4: more Renee Goods follow the orders of federal officials. Do

1991
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Speaker 4: not obstruct or impede them and the performance of their duties.

1992
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Speaker 4: And if you do so, you'll be alive today. Let

1993
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Speaker 4: the Feds do their job, Let the city do which job,

1994
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Speaker 4: Let the state do their job. Say prayer tonight for

1995
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Speaker 4: the repose of the soul of many officials or simply

1996
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Speaker 4: doing their job. Bill Cunningham, the Great American, with you

1997
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Speaker 4: every Sunday night.