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Speaker 1: You're listening to Cracking Weekly with Mike ben After this show,

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Speaker 1: But for now, looking forward to diving into watah and

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Speaker 1: after the Kraken went into the Holidays on a high

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Speaker 1: note and came so close to extending their win streak

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Speaker 1: loss last night against the Vancouver Canucks. A pretty good

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Speaker 1: He'll be joined me Everett, fits you, Al Kaniski as well,

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Speaker 1: the Caducks. As far as game night cover turn on

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Speaker 1: on the program. Beyond that, Everett al and myself, we

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Speaker 1: have our picks of our best stories of twenty twenty

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Speaker 5: Front every shot scar torn It Everly goals in three straight.

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. All right, roundtable time? All right? Coming

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Speaker 1: up out of this the Crack and four to zero

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Speaker 1: We're doing this roundtable A thirty two bar and grill

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Speaker 1: Mike Benton never fits you, al kiniski with you. Happy

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Speaker 1: New Year, by the way to you and yours fellas

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Speaker 1: Go to nine, the New York City ball drop.

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Speaker 2: That's Plan A, but plan BES not completely off Plan B.

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Speaker 7: If he texted me later, I mean, we'll reevaluate, but

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Speaker 1: End of the conversation. You kind of work things that

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Speaker 4: For me, it's Plan A, Plan A and Plan A.

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Speaker 4: I you know, we'll watch that East Coast ball drop.

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Speaker 4: We'll have a few glasses of uh, fermented grape juice,

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Speaker 1: You got me on the bourbons right now, you got that.

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Speaker 1: and we'll look forward to seeing you tomorrow. For the

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Speaker 1: Krack and the Nashville Predators. All right, last time we

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Speaker 7: I think they've gotten back to what's made them successful

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Speaker 3: But Philip Grubauer as well.

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Speaker 7: this has been the resurgence that we've been looking for

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Speaker 7: Dare I say that. I think he's back to playoff

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Speaker 7: But you know he's getting back to that and it's

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Speaker 4: Well, well, I would just add one more thing on that.

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Speaker 1: Team say percentage right now for the Kraken, they are

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Speaker 1: And there's been a ton of stability issues, I think

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Speaker 7: I think, honestly, a little bit of Colin Man and

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Speaker 1: He is hitting everything that moves right now. Ty Cartier

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, there isn't another line on this

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Speaker 7: They're playing like a line that has everything to lose

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Speaker 7: bit of extra time to recover. They have done everything right.

436
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Speaker 7: And and Mike, you.

437
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Speaker 3: Said it, you can't take them off the ice.

438
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Speaker 7: And you said to me the other day, in a

439
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Speaker 7: world where Jared McCann comes back to the lineup three

440
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Speaker 7: years ago, we're sending one of them.

441
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Speaker 2: Back to Valley.

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Speaker 7: Yeah right now, not anymore, because they they have proven

443
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Speaker 7: too valuable to break up. Uh And and as long

444
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Speaker 7: as they continue to play that way, you're gonna be

445
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Speaker 7: seeing a lot more of those four and I don't

446
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 7: think you can go wrong with the combination of anyone

447
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Speaker 7: on the eyes.

448
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'll just add one more common to the

449
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Speaker 4: There's no other line that does what they do out there,

450
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 4: especially when car chase on that line, because when car

451
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Speaker 4: chase on that line, you get two wingers Ben Myer's

452
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Speaker 4: not as much, but two wingers that seek out physicality.

453
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Speaker 4: There isn't another line that's primary objective on the wings

454
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Speaker 4: is to seek out physicality. And then you add that

455
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Speaker 4: speed element in there. You want that fourth line rolling

456
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Speaker 4: on a regular cycle.

457
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Speaker 1: Two things I notice here from this line. One at home,

458
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Speaker 1: you put Malanson out there. Every time he lays a

459
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Speaker 1: body in and the glass rattles, you hear a stir

460
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Speaker 1: out of the crowd. Yes, And it's something that kind

461
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Speaker 1: of takes me a little bit back here to when

462
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Speaker 1: this was very prevalent back in the nineties and two thousands.

463
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Speaker 1: Now I get a different game now. But yet successful

464
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Speaker 1: teams always have an edge. They have a level of

465
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Speaker 1: abrasiveness that a line like this brings. I think to me,

466
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Speaker 1: it's so important. And secondly, when you say, well, hey,

467
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Speaker 1: if they're playing so well, why do you play a

468
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Speaker 1: more well? You can't have it both ways because they

469
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Speaker 1: sort of a certain role. Malanson plays about eight minutes

470
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Speaker 1: a game, card Shave about roughly eleven, Ben Meyers ten minutes.

471
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Speaker 1: You know, a game, et cetera, et cetera. But the

472
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Speaker 1: point is here, it's almost like a successful pitching staff

473
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Speaker 1: in baseball, where one pitcher does well, it's a chain

474
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Speaker 1: reaction the torches passed on to the next guy in here.

475
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Speaker 1: In this sense, you have one line that goes out

476
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Speaker 1: and creates a stir. They do something positive, they make

477
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Speaker 1: an effect that then creates a chain reaction here for

478
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Speaker 1: the next line to go out and build out that energy.

479
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Speaker 3: For their role.

480
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Speaker 7: I feel like this might be Seattle's most effective line

481
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Speaker 7: again based on their role.

482
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Speaker 3: They're not gonna score one hundred points for you, but you're.

483
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Speaker 2: Not gonna be out in the last minute.

484
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Speaker 1: Yeah right, But.

485
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Speaker 7: Based on their role, this might be this team's most

486
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Speaker 7: effective line since year two.

487
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Speaker 1: They have fan favorite potential, by the way.

488
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Speaker 7: But but I think of Geeky Sproung Donado that fourth

489
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Speaker 7: line for year two, one hundred and one points from

490
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Speaker 7: that line.

491
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Speaker 3: We've seen what Geeky is and I don't have done.

492
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 7: In the NHL ever, since sprungs over in Russia right now,

493
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 7: tearing it up over there. But I feel like this,

494
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Speaker 7: I would love to get your opinion, especially for you

495
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Speaker 7: because you were here that year. Yeah, this, for my money,

496
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Speaker 7: might be the most effective line for their role.

497
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Speaker 3: Yeah, since that line we had two three years ago.

498
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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. And I think because you had to

499
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Speaker 1: use players like Geeky Donado's Sprung in a sheltered role,

500
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: you can't overplay them and overexpose them. Yet you find

501
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Speaker 1: a way to put them out at the right time

502
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: in the right spots, and they're going to be effective.

503
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Speaker 1: Same goes here for this line, but they operate in

504
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Speaker 1: a bit of a different fashion. Where I go back

505
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Speaker 1: to it again, if you're playing physical, you're hitting, you're

506
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: taking guys you know, on the opposition out of the play,

507
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: and you are creating energy not just in the building,

508
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: but you are creating energy for your bench for that

509
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: next line to go and do exactly like they do.

510
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: That's a positive chain reaction. I think that really has

511
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: been I think unseen since that second year when you

512
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: had Geeky and company on that fourth line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

514
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Speaker 4: I guess the one last thing I'd say about this

515
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 4: line and when I think about this line, I think

516
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 4: about them as four players, especially as this team becomes

517
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 4: more healthy. Winterton's been on that third line a little bit,

518
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 4: but you know, think about them in terms of Malanson

519
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 4: Myers in the middle and Carchay or Winterton on that wing.

520
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Speaker 4: I'll say something a little bit controversial.

521
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Speaker 2: Ooh.

522
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Speaker 4: I think that Malonson knows that he has to compete

523
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Speaker 4: to stay here, and I think he's looking at the

524
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Speaker 4: wingers on his line, whether that's Winterton or Karcha. Is

525
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 4: I have to be better than one of those two guys.

526
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Speaker 4: Now that's not to say Winterton couldn't bump up to

527
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Speaker 4: the third line and they could stay together. But if

528
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Speaker 4: this team is one hundred percent healthy, one of those

529
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 4: guys probably is a healthy scratch. And I think Malonson's thinking,

530
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Speaker 4: I want to show them.

531
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Speaker 1: And that is not a bad thing. I want to

532
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Speaker 1: show the coach internal competition, and this team has talked

533
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: about ever since this last summer.

534
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and again, this is a team sport. You support

535
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 4: each other, you stand up for each other. But at

536
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 4: the end of the day, it's also a business, and

537
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 4: Malonson wants to be here just as much as Carcier does.

538
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 4: As much as Winterton does, but he knows that there's

539
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 4: only room for two wingers in that line, and if

540
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 4: he's going to be one of them, he's got to

541
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Speaker 4: be the hardest working, most effective winger out there.

542
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Speaker 1: He also had, by the way, I think one of

543
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: the top three soundbites for the intermission of all time

544
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: on these radio airwaves and talking about Yeah, that first

545
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: point puck is nice, but he wants his first goal.

546
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: He'll just get the first point puck to his dodge.

547
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: Yea.

548
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Speaker 7: As we're sitting here recording that's swagger. By the way,

549
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 7: as we're sitting here recording this before practice today, there's

550
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Speaker 7: three goals on the ice. Up until three minutes ago,

551
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Speaker 7: there were two players on the ice, Ben Myers and

552
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Speaker 7: Jacob Alansa. They were the first two out here. Cale

553
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 7: Flury has now joined them. But again, these are guys,

554
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 7: and i'll throw Kale and that as well. These are

555
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 7: guys that understand that they're playing time unfortunately is not guaranteed,

556
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 7: so they're going to try to make sure that they

557
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 7: get every ounce out of this NHL experience and to

558
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 7: keep themselves in the lineup as they can.

559
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that this is a signal that I

560
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 4: want to get better. I want to be first on

561
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 4: the ice, I want to be lost off the ice,

562
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 4: And this is how you do it. Yeah, practice doesn't

563
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 4: start for half an hour. All three of them are

564
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 4: out there on the.

565
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Speaker 1: Ice before we get to Satiarsha. Here in our conversation,

566
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Speaker 1: I want to touch on Yonni Newman sent to Coachella Valley,

567
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: which this year twenty four points four goals, I mean,

568
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: is not going to exactly turn heads. But we're talking

569
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: about still a player who is dealing with his first

570
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: full season in the NHL, and for different players, that

571
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: can certainly be an adjustment period. But I think we

572
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: have to understand is that Newman is still very much

573
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: a work in progress. That shot is there, it's major

574
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: league quality, it will be great on the power play,

575
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: but there are still other parts of his game that,

576
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: from what we've seen, needs a little bit more work.

577
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: And there are two ways to go about this year.

578
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: Number one, do you keep him up here and just

579
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: let him sit in the press box and observe, or

580
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: do you sent him to the AHL where he's gonna

581
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: be getting big minutes, let him contribute, let him find

582
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: out what being not just not fensive player, but a

583
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: two hundred foot player in what Laine Lambert wants is

584
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: all about. And we talked about this here before. Guys,

585
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: there's only one way to get better, and it's reps, reps,

586
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: reps and more reps.

587
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 4: I think with Janni Neuman, you know, his last five

588
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 4: games before he got sent down, he was starting to

589
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 4: slowly turn the corner a little bit. And what I

590
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 4: mean by that is that you started you started to

591
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 4: see him play a little more physical. He was getting

592
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Speaker 4: onto pucks first, or if he wasn't, he was throwing

593
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 4: the body as he was getting there. I think the

594
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 4: issue was it was happening too slowly. I think the

595
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 4: coaches wanted to see more of that, more puck battles,

596
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 4: and I was, honestly, I think his skating needs to

597
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 4: get a little bit better. Does it get better here

598
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 4: practicing but not playing or down in Coachella That remains

599
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 4: to be seen. But if I'm Yanni Newman, I'm on

600
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 4: Coachella telling the coaches, I want to get better at

601
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 4: skating while I'm here, I want to get better at

602
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 4: at my two hundred foot game. I want to get

603
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 4: better physical, physic, physical, in my physical game. But I

604
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 4: also want to continue to shoot the puck, so he

605
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 4: wants he should see power play time as well. But

606
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 4: his game needs to get more rounded right now. Unfortunately,

607
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 4: he's like a heavyweight fighter with just a right hook.

608
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 4: He's gonna work on his his jabs, its uppercuts, his

609
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 4: his blocks, that sort of thing to become a more

610
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 4: rounded player.

611
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 7: I was hoping that we were gonna see with with

612
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 7: Schwartz on the on the sidelines. I was hoping we

613
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 7: were going to see a little bit more of that

614
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 7: power forward game development. And I remember and I were

615
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 7: talking about it. I'd love to see him go to

616
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 7: the corners. I'd love to see him get a goal

617
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 7: off his face, battle to the.

618
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 3: Front of the net.

619
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Speaker 7: And and you're right, it was starting to get there,

620
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 7: but it wasn't coming fast enough.

621
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Speaker 3: And and Yannie Newman is.

622
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 7: Probably a top three player in the AHL. He's too

623
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 7: good for the AHL. And that's okay. He's got to

624
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 7: go down, he has to dominate. He's gotta to find

625
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 7: these other areas of his game.

626
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: We'll see him again.

627
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll be the number one call.

628
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 7: It will be the first call up, back up, And honestly,

629
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 7: this potentially could be seen as a bit of a

630
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 7: wake up call. It wouldn't surprise me if the Crack

631
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 7: can keep him down there for five games and before

632
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 7: they go on that East Coast road trip they bring

633
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 7: them back up going into Carolina. You have to say, hey,

634
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 7: you got five or six games down there. Work on

635
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 7: some things. This is not permanent. Who knows, We don't

636
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 7: know what's in the minds of the management group and

637
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 7: all of that. But I see this as an opportunity

638
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 7: to get better and maybe a bit of a jolt,

639
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 7: a bit of a wake up call for him.

640
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Speaker 4: And if he does get better, the guy that he

641
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 4: could eventually replace, who knows when is Ellie Tolvenan. Yeah,

642
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 4: Ellie Tolvenan's game is exactly the game that Yanni Newman

643
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 4: should develop.

644
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653
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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, we'll say to you happy holidays, Mary, Christmas everybody,

654
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 8: and a happy New Year. And it's coming up tomorrow.

655
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 8: I'm sure everybody has good plans and stay safe and

656
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 8: have a good time.

657
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 9: And they've been great. You know, it's you know what

658
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 9: it's like here.

659
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 8: It's kind of a mix of holiday and also working

660
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 8: and working the games, but have days off in between.

661
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 8: So it's been really nice. But you know, I love

662
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 8: this time of year. It's good to see some family

663
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 8: and everyone seems to be in a pretty good mood

664
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 8: for the most party. But I mean, it all depends

665
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 8: on your travel schedule, I.

666
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: Guess, yeah, And it's going to come up here pretty

667
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: hot and heavy here on the crack inside here. But

668
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: we're going to get into i think, first off, last night,

669
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: and we're going to be seeing a lot of these

670
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: two teams I think coming up here and then the

671
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: not too distant future, especially twice this week from the

672
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: crack inside of this they fought hard to get into overtime.

673
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: But let a little bit on the table from the

674
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Speaker 1: Canucks standpoint, what kind of a spot did they leave

675
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: from last night as far as how they performed and

676
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: maybe how it also affects them right now with their

677
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: view in this Western Conference playoff picture.

678
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 8: Well, and I think that's the you know, if you

679
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 8: ask fans in Vancouver, some are more focused on finishing

680
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 8: thirty second.

681
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 9: They want a high draft pick there.

682
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 8: You know, there's been a lot of talk about rebuilding

683
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 8: and the team embracing the suck, so to seek and

684
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 8: being bad for a few years. But we'll see if

685
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 8: that ultimately happens that way. But I thought last night

686
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 8: the krack And were the better team for the most part.

687
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 8: I thought the Crackner were better in the first, they're

688
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 8: better in the third. And Kevin lankinin really stole the

689
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 8: show for Vancouver espeently, Yes, especially in the shoot up,

690
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 8: but also early in the game. I mean there was

691
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 8: the breakaway right away from coppococ coke lank and they

692
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 8: made the glove. Say Ben Myers had the rush going

693
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 8: in to him. There was a great chance from Eberley.

694
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 8: There was another chance on the power play afterwards as well,

695
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 8: and lank they made some huge stops and you got

696
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 8: to get the connects credit. I thought they played well

697
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 8: in the second and you never apologize for getting great

698
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 8: goaltending but I do think it was it was a

699
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 8: somewhat of a stolen win to some degree because I thought,

700
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,479
Speaker 8: you know, that Cracking on the totality of the night

701
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 8: were better. And one thing that Crack and I think

702
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 8: have done a better job of, and you guys know

703
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 8: this better than me, is defensively. They've been pretty good

704
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 8: this year for the most part, now giving up a ton,

705
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 8: and I thought for the most part last night they

706
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 8: were superior defensively. But you know, sometimes you get goaltending

707
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 8: and you get some saves and some time they scoring.

708
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 9: And you know, for Vancouver, they're.

709
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 8: Twenty ninth now in the league, I believe, and that

710
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 8: can change really quickly. It doesn't look like the playoffs

711
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 8: are a realistic, you know, end goal here for Vancouver,

712
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 8: even the games they won, they're five and two in

713
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 8: their last seven. And you never, you know, you know,

714
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 8: boo the wins because hey, you give the team credit

715
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 8: or finding ways to win. But a lot of it's

716
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 8: been Lanka and being stellarn to shootout. Last game he

717
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 8: won against was against Boston, this game last night against Seattle,

718
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 8: thatcher dem goal was sensational on that five game road trip,

719
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 8: and they've found ways to win because of their goaltending,

720
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 8: and sometimes goaltending a carrier pretty far, but it's also

721
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 8: not a recipe for sustained success game in a game out.

722
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 8: So I'm not sure that they who is ready to

723
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 8: launch off into the playoff race, whereas I think Seattle

724
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 8: at least they have a real strong backbone with how

725
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 8: they defend and their goaltending for the most part. And

726
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 8: whether that's going to be enough for Seattle to get

727
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 8: into the playoffs, we'll see, But I do think they

728
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 8: have a stronger foundation in terms of the playoff race

729
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 8: moving forward than Vancouver does.

730
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: Opinions may vary. What's yours right now on the shootout.

731
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 8: I mean, I guess I'm a bit tired of the

732
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 8: shootout in general. At the same time, I know fans

733
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 8: in the buildings seem to like it, they get into

734
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 8: it or whatever. I'm always I'm a bit of a

735
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 8: purist when it comes to sports, Like I don't mind ties.

736
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 8: I think ties are perfectly fine. I don't mind going

737
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 8: to overtime and it ending and going to a tie.

738
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 9: But I know fans like it and you.

739
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 8: Know, having some certainty at the end of the game.

740
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 8: It doesn't and you know it's not the worst thing,

741
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 8: but it's just it's so different over time and shootout

742
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 8: in the regular season versus the playoffs.

743
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 9: It's like two different sports.

744
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 8: So I cannot feel like as soon as we get

745
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 8: through regulation, we don't learn anything about a hockey team

746
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 8: because it's nothing transferable once to get into the playoffs

747
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 8: or no shootouts, there's no three on three, so it's.

748
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 9: Just a bit of a circus. But it's for entertainment,

749
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 9: so I'm a problem with it.

750
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 8: But generally I'm kind of fine with ties and not

751
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 8: having to go through all the extras.

752
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 4: So here, let's talk about rivalry for a second. I'm

753
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 4: not sure what Vancouver's perspective is on this, but I

754
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 4: think Seattle and Vancouver are starting to get a fairly

755
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 4: good rivalry. Is John Shorthouse coined iye, rivalry, you know,

756
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 4: and mccannon and Connor Garland kind of got that going

757
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 4: last night as well in that game. What's the sense

758
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 4: from your side is this? Is this something that's been

759
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 4: kind of simmering for the past five seasons since the

760
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 4: crack and camer League.

761
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: Is it growing? What are your thoughts?

762
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 8: I'd say it would be kind of simmering a little bit,

763
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 8: and it's one of those things where we are seeing

764
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 8: some more you know, the games are a bit more

765
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 8: heated between the two rifles. I think every game we

766
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 8: see now there is an extra edge to it. And

767
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 8: I know maybe Myer's got to go in with those

768
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 8: if it has hits on Viniers a couple of years back,

769
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 8: and I know he's been persona non grada in Seattle,

770
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 8: and I think those are great things because you know,

771
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 8: the animosity from the fan base and the players that

772
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 8: I think that adds an extra passion.

773
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 9: So it's certainly growing.

774
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 8: But I think ultimately for it to really blossom into

775
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 8: this this incredible rival we were all waiting for, it

776
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 8: has to be a playoff matchup between the teams, and

777
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 8: that's that's what truly elevates it, and that's when the

778
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 8: stakes are at their highest. But there is the natural

779
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 8: built in rivalry being you know, down the I five,

780
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 8: and the fact that a lot of Vancouver rights are

781
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 8: super happy that Seattle does have a hockey team because

782
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 8: you know, I've already seen some Canucks fans because of

783
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 8: how things have gone, they're they're already switching allegiances and

784
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 8: becoming cracking fans, but I think naturally fans want.

785
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 9: To get on board with it. For players, you're starting to.

786
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 8: See a bit more of a game in a game out.

787
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 8: But ultimately, what we need is both these teams would

788
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 8: be good at the same time and make the playoffs.

789
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 8: And ideally it'd be great if both these teams are

790
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 8: top three in the division, let's say second and third

791
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 8: one year, and they go headhead in the first round.

792
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 8: I think those are the types of matchups when teams

793
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 8: are even and they get into that seven game series,

794
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 8: it just elevates everything. It's kind of what happened with

795
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 8: Vancouver and the Minnesota wht out for instance, some years back,

796
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 8: and when they played their playoff series, and that's when

797
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 8: Vancouver became Minnesota's biggest rival. And for a long time,

798
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 8: those two teams really hated each other. And I think

799
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 8: we're always going to have the rivalry because of the

800
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 8: proximity between Vancouver and Seattle. But what we truly need

801
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 8: is as a seven game series of these teams going

802
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 8: toe to toe.

803
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 9: Who is Vancouver's biggest rivalry right now?

804
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, considering how bad they've been, It's just

805
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 8: one of those things where you know other teams don't

806
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 8: view them as the rivals.

807
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 9: But I'd say right now, probably Edmonton.

808
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 8: Because they played them last in the playoffs too, and

809
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 8: they had Vancouver's number.

810
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 9: But with the Canucks, you know, having this, you know.

811
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 8: The false starts and not having the sustained success in

812
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 8: the playoffs year in a year out, that's where there

813
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 8: was r like for a long time those Calgary because

814
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 8: Vancouver and Calgary would end up meeting each other in

815
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 8: the playoffs every few years. So for the longest time

816
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 8: was like, those are the two teams that you know,

817
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 8: really hated one another. There's always hatred towards Toronto no

818
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 8: matter what. So I think you have that, But I'd say,

819
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 8: if you have to pick one, I'd say it's Edmonton

820
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 8: right now.

821
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 9: It's funny you mentioned Tyler Myers in that hit.

822
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 7: I think between him, Cale mccarr and Martin Pasposol, the

823
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 7: fan base is starting to slowly pick out a few

824
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 7: public enemies around the league. You know, you mentioned earlier

825
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 7: about the Vancouver Canuck fan base and them wanting to

826
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 7: maybe tank for McKenna or whatever the case may be.

827
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 7: When you look at Rutherford and Alvin, I mean, it's

828
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 7: not an easy job being a GM of a Canadian team.

829
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 7: How do they manage those expectations from you know, the

830
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 7: fan base wanting success and wanting a cup obviously, to

831
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 7: trying to avoid a full tear down and rebuilding on

832
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 7: the fly. What have you seen from that player development,

833
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 7: roster development standpoint that leads you to believe that maybe

834
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 7: this is the right path or should they just go

835
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 7: full San Jose, tear it down to the studs and

836
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 7: then be good for twenty years after that?

837
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 3: Well?

838
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 8: I think a big part of it is the mandate

839
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 8: at the end of the day comes from the very

840
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 8: top of the organization, and do you have an ownership

841
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 8: group that's willing to go through that type of pain?

842
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 8: Because ultimately, when it comes to tear down rebuild, managers, coaches,

843
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 8: players can have opinions, but ultimately the person writing the

844
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 8: checks is the one that's going to have to decide.

845
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 9: Am I willing to.

846
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 8: Go through the suffering for X amount of years and

847
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 8: looking at something that might take the better part of

848
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 8: five years And ultimately that's the person that has to

849
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 8: be on board for that type of rebuild to happen.

850
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 9: I also think Rutherford and.

851
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 8: Honestly, you know to be to be Frank, I don't

852
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 8: think any general manager in the NHL for the most part,

853
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 8: or president truly wants to tear their team down to

854
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 8: the studs like you mentioned San Jose, and yeah, I

855
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 8: mean they ended up, you know, getting down to the studs.

856
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 8: A lot of it was bad contracts too, it was

857
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 8: you know, they kind of got stuck in the mud,

858
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 8: and especially when they traded away all those picks to

859
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 8: get Eric Carlson, and they had no choice about to

860
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 8: embrace where what they were facing. And now they're finally

861
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 8: growing out of it and you're seeing you know, the upswing,

862
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 8: but they haven't made the playoffs of twenty nineteen. And

863
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 8: we heard the owner not too long ago have an

864
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 8: interview and talk about how disappointed he was about what

865
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 8: happened some years back. And there's still some trepidation about

866
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 8: needed to get better quicker. We can't have this goal

867
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 8: long gone too long. And I think Rutherford also given

868
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 8: his age, that he wants to whenever he leaves Vancouver,

869
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 8: because at his age, it's not like he's going to

870
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 8: be here for another decade. So I think he wants

871
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 8: to be in a spot where he can hand this

872
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 8: off in a positive environment or in a positive direction.

873
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 9: In a couple of years. And if you want to

874
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 9: look at.

875
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 8: It from what's the best way for them to have success,

876
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 8: they've done a good job building atmosphere and they wont

877
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 8: to call the couple last year. Their development program has

878
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 8: improved by leaps and bounds since Rutherford and now being

879
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 8: took over. They've done a good job of finding talent

880
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 8: through the cracks. They haven't had a lot of high picks,

881
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 8: but even the picks they've had, they've done a good

882
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 8: job of getting them to the NHL. We're seeing Tom Bilander,

883
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 8: el Elias Petterson the defenseman come in. He was a

884
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 8: third round draft pick. Even Jonathan Lecramack, he has shown

885
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 8: some promise college free agency, they've signed like a Maxson,

886
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 8: he's becoming an everyday player. And they've been able to

887
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 8: even develop players like a Lina's Carlson who was here

888
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 8: prior but they finally work with them in Abbotsford and

889
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 8: now he's becoming at the very least a player that

890
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 8: can play down your lineup. So if you look at

891
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 8: it from what they've done in terms of finding talent

892
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 8: and drafting players and developing them, you should have some

893
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 8: confidence that this group is able to do those things.

894
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 8: The question is can you do within the time frame

895
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 8: you're hoping to get it done, because they're hoping that

896
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 8: we might be bad this year and perhaps maybe next

897
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 8: year is not where we want it to be. But

898
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 8: we want to be able to turn up into two

899
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 8: to three years and be a competitive team again. That

900
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 8: might be a tight timeline to turn things around. But

901
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 8: if they do nail the draft and keep developing their players,

902
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 8: there might be an outside chance of that happening. But ultimately,

903
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 8: you know, teams in the NHL, they don't fully tear

904
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 8: down for the most part. Like even look people love

905
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 8: the Montreal example, Well Montreal still trade it for first

906
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 8: round picks. You know, the trader for Alex Neuhook, the

907
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 8: trader for Kirby Doc They go up two first round

908
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 8: picks to get no adopts And now is incredible. Hudson too,

909
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 8: I mean drafted him, But that's kind of the way

910
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 8: it goes, right, Like, you know, teams don't want to

911
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 8: be in the basement for seven eight years. They still

912
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 8: want to be able to turn it around relatively quickly.

913
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 8: So I don't think what Vancouver is doing is, you know,

914
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 8: divergent from most teams face what they're faced with. But

915
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 8: in a passionate hockey market like Vancouver, I think people

916
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 8: want to see the team be a trendsetter in some

917
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 8: ways and embrace something that teams normally don't. But organizationally,

918
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 8: you know, I think the best path forward is drafting,

919
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 8: and at the very least this management groups shown a

920
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 8: good track record of drafting and developing players.

921
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: Satires Jah joining us right now here on the Beacon

922
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: Plumbing hotline on Cracking Weekly, and as a part of

923
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: what they're trying to build from the foundation, they get

924
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: three pretty good players here out of one of the

925
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: biggest blockbuster deals I think in years in the NHL,

926
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: in Liam Ogrin, Marco Rossi and Ze Buoyam, and of

927
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: course Quinn use out the door as a result. But

928
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: sat tro or, where do you put the Quinn use

929
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: trade versus others you've seen over the years, And is

930
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: it fair to call zeev Booyam Quinn used light.

931
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to.

932
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 8: Put that on Ze because I think Quinn is just

933
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 8: Zeve has been really good. Honestly the seven games he's played,

934
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 8: he's rushing the puck well, I think his defensive game

935
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 8: has been a bit more mature than I expected it

936
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 8: would be, considering he's a twenty year old rookie in

937
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 8: the in the NHL. But Quinn's a one of one.

938
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 8: I mean, nobody in the league skates the way Quinn

939
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 8: Hughes does. Nobody in the league plays the way Quinn does.

940
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 8: And that's not to say he's the best player, the best.

941
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 9: Defenseman in the league, but he's unique.

942
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 8: It's him and mccarr and even if Bulliam hits his potential,

943
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 8: he may not be, you know, one or two levels

944
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 8: compared to where Quinn is. So I don't want to

945
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 8: put that on Zeve. And I think there's a uniqueness

946
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 8: to how Quinn skates. Ze might actually be a little

947
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 8: quicker in a straight line. He might be more explosive

948
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 8: in a few years. But where Quinn dusts everybody in

949
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 8: the league as his edgework, I mean, he's he's almost

950
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 8: like a ballet dancer on the ice. It's just incredible

951
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 8: what he's able to do. I mean, his mom was

952
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 8: a figure skater two so I think you know, he

953
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 8: learned these these this trade at a really young age.

954
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 9: And he's so elusive.

955
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 8: I think there's nobody that can compare it to Quinn

956
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 8: in terms of how he skates. Like mccarr is more

957
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 8: direct and powerful and dynamic and has a bit more

958
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 8: power in how he plays, but Quinn's just the elegance

959
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 8: he plays with. So I can never put that on anybody.

960
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 8: I think it's unfair to Zave, but he has potential

961
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 8: to be a top pair, you know, perhaps franchise chasing,

962
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 8: changing defenseman, and I think where Vancouver kind of finds

963
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 8: itself now after having made the trade. I think it

964
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 8: is a fair value because you're never getting, you know,

965
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 8: one for one replacement when you trade a player like Quinn.

966
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 8: But I do think it's the biggest trade we've seen

967
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 8: since the cap Era started in two thousand and five.

968
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 8: There's been some big trades like Joe Thornton got moved,

969
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 8: of course, but the return I don't think looks anywhere

970
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 8: close to what bank who ended up getting it was

971
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 8: Brad Stewart, Marco Stern. I think Wayne Primo came over

972
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 8: from San Jose to a Boston in that trade. The

973
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 8: rants in a trade last year I think was maybe

974
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 8: the second biggest or the biggest when he got moved

975
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 8: from Martin Natchez in the move again to Carolina. But

976
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 8: I'd say in the cap Era, this was the biggest

977
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 8: trade that we have seen and perhaps the best player

978
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 8: to get traded since you know, you have to go

979
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 8: back to prior to the cap Era. I mean Vancouver

980
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 8: traded Papal Burret to Florida. I think that kind of

981
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 8: ranks similar in that type of range, like one of

982
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 8: the single best players in the league at his position

983
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 8: getting moved just kind.

984
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: Of reminded me also of Tamuslani from Winnipeg to Anaheim.

985
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, that one is not a huge one as well. Yeah,

986
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,479
Speaker 8: and those are the types of you know, erth chattering moves.

987
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 8: I mean, you're talking about guys were Hall of Fame

988
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 8: level talents and you know, and they don't usually get

989
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 8: traded in their prime like Quinn's like firmly right in

990
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 8: his prime and that's when you got moved.

991
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 9: You don't see that very often.

992
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 7: I've heard a lot of people talk about this trade

993
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 7: and I want to ask you, would you consider Quinn Hughes.

994
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 7: Is he the best Canuck in history?

995
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: And I've seen that flying around.

996
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 7: You know, the Canucks out of here trading are best

997
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 7: player that we've ever had.

998
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 3: And I'm like, all the sadems are pretty good. Yeah,

999
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 3: Rumbo was pretty good.

1000
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 7: You guys, there's some guys hanging up in the rafters

1001
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 7: rogers that are pretty good. Not saying Quinn is not,

1002
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 7: but in the history of the Knucks is Quinn he

1003
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 7: is number one.

1004
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 8: I think you could argue he is in terms of

1005
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 8: pure talent, right. And I think part of the reason

1006
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 8: why there was an extra affinity towards Quinn is the Canucks.

1007
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 8: Canucks fans have been dying to see the team have

1008
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 8: a number one defenseman up until they drafted Quinn. The

1009
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 8: conversation in Vancouver always was they've had great teams. They've

1010
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 8: had great you know forwards, you know, maybe the best

1011
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 8: wing and one of the best in Burret.

1012
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 9: They had the cities.

1013
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 8: You know, even looking a guy like Marcus Naslin, I

1014
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 8: think he gets lost to you know, a guy who

1015
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 8: won the Art Ross one year and the Lester B.

1016
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 8: Pearson one year, one of the most prolific scores in

1017
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 8: the NHL, right before the cap Earro started. But they

1018
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 8: never had a defenseman that defined a franchise the way

1019
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 8: Quinn did. And you know, fans had always talked about

1020
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 8: and even in the media throughout the years that do

1021
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 8: you truly win a Stanley coup unless you get a

1022
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 8: Bona fid number one defenseman? Do you need to have

1023
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 8: that type of lynch fin And the Knucks finally got one.

1024
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 8: So I do think part of it is what fans

1025
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 8: and a lot of people have.

1026
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 9: Been longing for for forty.

1027
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 8: Plus years for the team to find a player like Quinn,

1028
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 8: so they finally got him. So I do think there's

1029
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 8: also the recency bias because he's the latest one here.

1030
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 9: It's an argument.

1031
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 8: I mean, you can argue him Burry the Sadines, but

1032
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 8: you can certainly craft an argument that Quinn is the

1033
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 8: single most talented player this franchise ever had.

1034
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 7: Let's not forget former Bowling Green Falcon Kevin Bixit.

1035
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: Yeahvure quota for one shell fit you venture quota for

1036
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: one Bowling Green name drop?

1037
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would.

1038
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 4: I would add, you know, I grew up in the

1039
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 4: Vancouver area, so it was a follower of the Canucks

1040
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 4: for a long time, and I you know, I would

1041
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 4: add that Quinnhughest is probably the best defenseman of the franchisees,

1042
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 4: you know history. I think that you got to throw

1043
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 4: in guys like you know, Trevor and Steven's going back

1044
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 4: to Stan Smeil and you know some of the some

1045
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 4: of the workhorses they had back in the eighties, but certainly,

1046
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 4: you know, probably over the last decade and a half,

1047
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 4: the Sadines, Burr and obviously Quinn User in that conversation, Yeah.

1048
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 8: No doubt, And I think you know, you know, the

1049
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 8: Conducks don't have a rich history of winning championships, but

1050
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 8: they certainly have players that you know, we're amongst the

1051
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 8: best of their position for the Vancouver like even Trevor,

1052
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 8: Linda and the represented Canada at the Olympics. You know,

1053
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 8: you looked at Stancemeal, maybe not the most talented player,

1054
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 8: but one of the most hard, hardest working character players

1055
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 8: in the NHL, known as one of the best leaders

1056
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 8: in the NHL. So there is a rich history of

1057
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 8: some real strong characters. And you know, in terms of

1058
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 8: how Quinn's going to be remembered, that's going to be interesting,

1059
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 8: right because there was no real success team success outside

1060
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 8: of the you know, the Bubble Playoffs in his rookie

1061
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 8: season and then two years ago when they got to

1062
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 8: the second round.

1063
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 9: Whereas Stan Smeil. He got to a Cup final.

1064
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 8: Luongo got to a Cup final, Linden got to a

1065
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 8: Cup final, The Cities got to a Cup final. Berry

1066
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 8: got to a Cup final. So there's a difference between

1067
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 8: who the best and most respect and loved Canucks were

1068
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 8: and also who the most talented players were, and where

1069
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 8: Quinn doesn't rank compared to those guys.

1070
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 9: The teams successful was never here.

1071
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 8: Now, I don't put that on Quinn only there's a

1072
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 8: lot of failures to go around, but that's the one

1073
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 8: thing missing from his resume.

1074
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: Before we wrap this up, we're gonna get to Nashville

1075
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: and Calgary. Who was on the crack and schedule. The

1076
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: Canucks have already seen them here, so I think there's

1077
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: a bit of a bas of information here to work

1078
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: off for the season satire. But it just seems like

1079
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: as if nobody is realistically out of the race yet

1080
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: in the Western Conference, and all of a sudden, here

1081
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: come the Calgary Flames. They won seven of ten. Here

1082
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: comes Nashville, they've won seven of ten. To you, who's

1083
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,439
Speaker 1: the more surprising team still hanging around right now?

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00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 8: You know, I'd say Nashville given all the drama around

1085
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 8: the team right, Like, I mean, we've heard so much

1086
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 8: about is Brunette's job in jeopardy, and you know, is

1087
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 8: stamcos no longer able to play in the NHL, Who's

1088
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 8: getting traded? And they were still just spony last year?

1089
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 8: Is spending all that money in free agency? And it

1090
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 8: just seemed like there's so much turmoil that I wasn't

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00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 8: sure if they were going to be able to get

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Speaker 8: through it. And to give them credit, they've they've found

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Speaker 8: something here recently, and Stamkosa has really re emerged. I mean,

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00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 8: him and Ryan o'reiley last a little while have been

1095
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 8: red hot playing next to one another, and they're kind

1096
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 8: of finding that, you know, found to no use perhaps

1097
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 8: to some extent, and they've really driven the team. And

1098
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 8: when you get a guy like Roman Yosi back and

1099
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 8: he's not as young as he used to be, but

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Speaker 8: he's still one of the top seven eight defensemen in

1101
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 8: the National Hockey League. And if you get start, if

1102
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Speaker 8: you start getting saved from guys like Sorrows, like there

1103
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 8: is a better foundation there in Nashville, then I think

1104
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 8: the results have indicated.

1105
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 9: Now I'm not sure they'll make the playoffs. I'm not

1106
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 9: sure if you.

1107
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 8: Know they have longevity here, but there is talent on

1108
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 8: that squad and now we're in the biggest disappointment in the

1109
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 8: last couple of years where the veteran players not being

1110
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 8: able to live up to their contracts, and now you're

1111
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 8: seeing some of their veterans really get going and they

1112
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 8: do play an aggressive style. They do have some decent

1113
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 8: speed on the team. There's some tenacity with how they

1114
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 8: play as well. So I think they're the surprise because

1115
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 8: I just kind of felt like they were a team

1116
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 8: dead in the water to start the year, and especially

1117
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 8: with all the turmoil going on. I think the Flames

1118
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 8: are a team you have to give a lot of

1119
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 8: credit to. It's a really hard working bunch. Huska has

1120
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 8: those guys working hard every single game. They have a

1121
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 8: nice combination of youth and veterans. And again, I'm not

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00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 8: sure Calgary is going to make the playoffs, and perhaps

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00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 8: the best thing for them is another high draft pick

1124
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 8: this year, as they're still are looking to kind of retool.

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00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 8: But when you have Rasmus Anderson, McKenzie Wieger and those

1126
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 8: two guys, you know, hold down the ford on the

1127
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 8: back end, it gives you a foundation. Dustin Wolfe, you know,

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00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 8: one of the most talented young goalies in the National

1129
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 8: Hockey League. He's kind of regained his form. Their backup's

1130
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 8: been pretty solid so far this year as well. So

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00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 8: they're a team that on any given night, if you

1132
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 8: don't show up and play hard, they're going to beat you.

1133
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 8: And we've seen that with Calgary going back to last

1134
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 8: year they just missed the playoffs. I don't know if

1135
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 8: they have enough juice, but if you show up against

1136
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 8: Calgary and you're not ready, ready to work their team,

1137
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 8: that's going to beat you. So I think that's the

1138
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 8: biggest thing about Calgary is you can't take them lightly.

1139
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 9: If you do, you're in trouble.

1140
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 8: If you don't, I think you're a pretty good chance

1141
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 8: of coming away with something against them. But they're a

1142
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 8: really hard working team and they have veterans who don't

1143
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 8: stop working. And I mentioned Wiger and Rastus anderson Nas

1144
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 8: and Padre is an absolute horse up front two. I mean,

1145
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 8: the guy works his butt off every single shift. He

1146
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 8: has a true desire to have success every time he's

1147
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 8: out there. And those are the types of teams there's

1148
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 8: pestkey to play against, and especially it's true kind of

1149
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 8: like the the doul drums of a season where teams

1150
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 8: might kind of relax a little bit or kind of

1151
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 8: feel like they don't have it. That's a team that's

1152
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 8: going to be locked in and trying to work hard

1153
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 8: every game. So the Calgary squad kind of look at

1154
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 8: an all effort team that you just can't fall asleep against.

1155
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: The filter is certainly still getting up and running right

1156
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: now for this playoff picture, and a lot to be

1157
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: decided before we get into the Olympic break. But hey, Satyre,

1158
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate this. You do find work once again. We'll

1159
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: look forward to catch you once more down the road.

1160
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, Happy new year, Thanks for doing

1161
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 1: this year with us.

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00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 9: Hey, same to you, guys.

1163
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 8: I appreciate it very much and the best selected rest

1164
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 8: of the season.

1165
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 2: Unhappy all right, that's.

1166
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: Sat to our shot in our conversation Mike Everett, AL,

1167
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: we're doing this year again back at thirty two bar

1168
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: and real just ahead a crack and practice us one

1169
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: here before the end of the calendar year of twenty

1170
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Speaker 1: twenty five. Crack in Nashville coming up tomorrow. But before

1171
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: we get to the mailbag segment, about fifteen minutes before

1172
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 1: we hit record on this. How about this announcement, Berkeley

1173
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: Catton gonna switch from seventy seven to twenty seven.

1174
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: Patrick coming out, Happy New Year, new number.

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00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: You might have been choking the like. I mean, I

1176
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: watched this game against Vancouver time it was ice.

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00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is Oh look at that numbers already changed.

1178
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 3: Seven already changed.

1179
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 2: On his helmet, on his jersey.

1180
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Speaker 3: So you know, those of you who have a seventy

1181
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 3: seven caton jersey, you.

1182
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 2: Just gonna change one.

1183
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 3: That's gonna be all hold on to that.

1184
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1185
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: I said this again back up the press box, and

1186
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: Curtis Crabtree pointed this out probably about two or three times.

1187
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: We thought Caton was gonna pop that for a skull.

1188
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: But it's coming, And I said it might just be

1189
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: Nashville coming up on New Year's.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you had a great opportunity in that last game.

1191
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 4: He just flubbed on the pocket, little bit rolled on

1192
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 4: his stick. But what a great shooting spot he was in.

1193
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 7: For Berkeley Catton. For me, his confidence the last two weeks,

1194
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 7: three weeks, every game he's doing something a little bit

1195
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 7: more skillful, and I mean this is the nicest way

1196
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 7: in the best way possible. He's doing something a little

1197
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 7: bit more cocky here and I love it. He's he's

1198
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 7: told dragging one more guy. He's he's carrying the puck

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00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 7: over the blue line. He's deaking in the high slot.

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00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 7: He's doing something a little bit more skilled every single game.

1201
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 7: He probably should have five goals by now, and I

1202
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 7: mean he is right there. But I have loved watching

1203
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 7: his game. I love everything for him has been coming

1204
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 7: together the last two and a half three weeks and

1205
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 7: it's been awesome to see.

1206
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: Let's get to our mail bag segment here. First off,

1207
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: great question from Curtis Allen on Twitter and x's where

1208
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: you can find me. By the way, I Benton underscore

1209
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: Mike crack an Audio network at Cracking audio Net evergets

1210
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: that the voice fits al Kiniski is at al Koniski obviously.

1211
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: Curtis's question, is it concerning that jac O'Brien did not

1212
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: main Team Canada's World Junior squad this year? Do you

1213
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: think he will play in Coachelle Valley next year with

1214
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: the new nineteen year old rule. I'll tee it up

1215
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 1: here with this, I think number one, absolutely positively zero concern.

1216
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: And this is where I think the selection part of

1217
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: this has, you know, come under scrutiny where you're not

1218
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: sometimes taking the most talented players, you're sometimes taking the

1219
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: players that maybe fit a certain scheme or core values

1220
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: of the management staff. It is not at all a

1221
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: knock here on Jacobrien, and I think he was one

1222
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: of the more highly discussed, maybe even controversial players left

1223
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: off here from this roster. The returns as far as

1224
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: what he's doing right now in the OHL say he

1225
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: is without question beyond the shadow of a doubt next

1226
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 1: year ready as a nineteen year old with that new

1227
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: rule going into place in coachell O Valley. And I

1228
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: think based on what we've seen maybe in trying to

1229
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: finagle Shane right in there questions of you know, could

1230
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: Berkeley Catton play there? Well, this is now right place,

1231
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: right time for Jacobrian.

1232
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 7: Jason Robertson being left off tv USA is concerning, right

1233
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 7: Jacobrien being left off Team Canada for the World Juniors.

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00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 3: I'm with him. You know, he still is the second.

1235
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 7: Leading scorer in the OHL right now. I mean he's

1236
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 7: gonna be fine. And also too and Al being being

1237
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 7: our resident Canadian. There's so much politics in Hockey Canada idea.

1238
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 3: Who knows.

1239
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: We need about a ten hour podcast here to dissect this.

1240
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 7: Jacobrien is gonna be fine. If anything, I hope this

1241
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 7: pisses him off a little bit. And he's like, you're

1242
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 7: not gonna take me, all right, Well, then up the league.

1243
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: Yep.

1244
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 7: We'll see you next year in CV, and I'll make

1245
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 7: my NHL debut next year as well, I am.

1246
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 3: I am. My concern level with this is below zero

1247
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 3: for for for him not making the team.

1248
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I also think too, And you know you said,

1249
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 4: I hope it pisses him off. I I agree, I

1250
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 4: hope it stokes those fires has been that makes him

1251
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 4: want to not just show people, but just become a

1252
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 4: better player than all those guys that were selected. And

1253
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 4: they when they select a team for four nations for

1254
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 4: the Olympics, it's not about necessarily picking the guy with

1255
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 4: the most points you know in the NHL that qualifies

1256
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 4: for being on the team, or the most points at

1257
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 4: the junior level or USh whatever. It's about finding the

1258
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 4: right combination of guys. And for whatever reason, the coaching

1259
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 4: staff didn't think he was the part of that right combination.

1260
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 4: They don't think he's a bad hockey player. They don't

1261
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 4: think he's going to be a great They don't not

1262
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 4: think he's going to be a great hockey player. It

1263
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 4: just wasn't the right combination for that team.

1264
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: Forty seven points, by the way, forty seven points in

1265
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: twenty eight games, third in league scoring this year. My goodness,

1266
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: he is on a tear well.

1267
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 3: And you're right too, Mike. You need you need guys

1268
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 3: to fill certain roles.

1269
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 7: Right basketball, With the Olympics, you can bring every Lebron,

1270
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 7: every Kobe, everybody, right, you can't have twenty five McDavid's

1271
00:57:58,800 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 7: on your team.

1272
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 3: It just won't work. You know, I don't care how

1273
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 3: skilled you are. You know, it's team us.

1274
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 7: Say, like I said, Jason Robertson, probably the best American

1275
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 7: player right now, He's gonna more than likely be left

1276
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 7: off the Olympic roster. Yeah, for reasons I don't understand.

1277
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 7: But apparently he doesn't fit the role that Billy Garran

1278
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 7: and the rest of the management staff want to phill.

1279
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 7: And we're gonna have to move on from that. But

1280
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 7: you never know why. But yeah about it. I'm talking

1281
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 7: in circles here.

1282
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 3: He's fine.

1283
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: Question here from Phil saying we have seen Hins and

1284
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: Lowe's here from goaltending Philip Grubauer a part of this

1285
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: year over the last few years. Right now it looks

1286
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: like a high with the salary cap going up in

1287
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: contenders with weaknesses in goal, Is there a market to

1288
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: trade out goaltunding right now? Would the team sell high?

1289
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: That from Phil on Twitter and X Here's where I

1290
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: get into the delicate part of this, and that when

1291
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: you examine where the crack and are at right now

1292
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: in the thick of this playoff race, and the kind

1293
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: of return you would get for goaltending, would it measure

1294
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: up and say other needs versus defense and forwards to

1295
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: get this team at least stable here. Goaltending is a

1296
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: big part of this because of the condensed nature of

1297
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: the schedule and the fact that they plan to have

1298
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: three goalies out there to sustain this kind of a

1299
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: rigorous schedule here at this point. So, I mean, I

1300
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: really don't know. It takes really the right kind of

1301
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: trade partner and the right kind of fit, and I

1302
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: think based on what Grubauer is making right now in salary,

1303
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that would fit as well with

1304
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: a lot of teams that's at least one example here

1305
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: of this, So I think if you see movement elsewhere,

1306
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: it's likelier thing from a defensive standpoint or a forward standpoint.

1307
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: Goaltending is a very very tricky picture that I'm not

1308
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: sure that makes a lot of sense as of right now.

1309
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 4: Well, we've talked about this a little bit too over

1310
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 4: the last few weeks as we get closer to the

1311
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 4: trade deadline, and I think there's a small handful of

1312
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 4: players where if I put my GM hat on for

1313
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 4: a second, I would say thanks, but no thanks too

1314
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 4: if somebody came college. It's a small handful of players

1315
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 4: in this team. I think the goaltenders are not in

1316
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 4: that handful. Maybe Joey, but the way Grubauer has been playing,

1317
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 4: might be the two of them. But the right offer

1318
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 4: gets presented to me, I have to look at it

1319
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 4: and say, if I give up blank Joey Gruby, Matt Murray,

1320
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 4: what am I getting in return? Having said that, we

1321
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 4: were about to head into the part of the schedule

1322
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 4: where we've got seventeen games in thirty one days. I

1323
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 4: think you need three goaltenders during that run, at least

1324
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 4: for that part of the schedule.

1325
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: We get onto our top stories of twenty twenty five,

1326
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: and I want to begin here with each of us

1327
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: going here with three of these here. I think, first off,

1328
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: for me as a hiring a head coach, Lane Lambert,

1329
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: which I think set this team on a different course,

1330
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: a different trajectory, and I think it's going to pay

1331
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: off long term. You bring in a guy who has

1332
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: been a part of a Stanley Cup winner. He brings

1333
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: a hate to lose, mentality, there's intensity, and there's accountability

1334
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: here to what he's brought here with this group. We've

1335
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: seen this already. I think from just the moves he

1336
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: makes in game, the moves he makes here with the

1337
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: lineup beforehand, and I think ultimately what he's got to

1338
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: consider maybe his crowning achievement through about roughly half this

1339
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: season was pulling everyone together when you had Brandon montur Al,

1340
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: Jared McCann, Jayden Schwartzman's done with that trip all the

1341
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: way through from San Jose into Los Angeles, Anaheim in between,

1342
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: after you trade out Mason Marchmen, I think with Lane Lambert,

1343
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: this is a move that's going to create long term

1344
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: effects here in the dressing room. Secondly, for me, the

1345
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,439
Speaker 1: shakeup of the crack in front office, Jason Votteroll moving

1346
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: up to GM Ron Francis, President of Hockey Operations and

1347
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: missing the playoffs here two years in a row and

1348
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: getting here to the end of contracts I think is

1349
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: a big key for off ice leadership, and he hasn't

1350
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: been afraid to take big swings in the past. His

1351
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: name was in the hunt here for other jobs reportedly

1352
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: in the past, so this was a move to set

1353
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: up the long term framework of how the next wave

1354
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: is going to be. I think coming in he's gone

1355
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: out of his way to explain how young players over

1356
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: and over and over are going to be at the

1357
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: core of this. And finally, for me, the third one

1358
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: the drafting of Jacobrien. Long term, of course, there's question

1359
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: marks and you have to assess those, I think on

1360
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: a very very neutral scale. Short term though, I think

1361
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: for me it was a right move because depending upon

1362
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: how he pops, potentially you've got a collection here of Jacobrian,

1363
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: Matty Venier's, Shane Wright even getting deeper into his contract,

1364
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: Chandler Stevenson. There's also Berkeley Catton, where you're showing that

1365
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: he can play on the wing right now and that's

1366
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 1: so important O'Brien. Again, I go back to our mailbag segment,

1367
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: miss the World Juniors, not because of his game, but

1368
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: just because basically he got squeezed out of a job.

1369
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: He's got hands, he's got skill, he's got vision. The preseason,

1370
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: that thing told me a lot, and in two to

1371
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,959
Speaker 1: three years you could be looking at a top line

1372
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: guy ready here to break through here for this team.

1373
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean for you went management and coaching on

1374
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 4: yours and the draft. I got to start with the

1375
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 4: best start in franchise history. Through game number twenty two,

1376
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 4: that's November twenty third, this cracking team had points in

1377
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 4: seventeen of twenty two games. They were eleven to five

1378
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 4: and six. And it wasn't a soft start to the schedule.

1379
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 4: They had wins against Anaheim right off the bat, Vegas,

1380
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 4: two wins against Winnipeg and Edmonton as well. We all

1381
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 4: know what happened to Edmonton the first month, and yeah,

1382
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 4: that's all you need to say start, but certainly two

1383
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 4: wins against Winnipeg was was huge, and obviously Vegas and

1384
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 4: Anaheim as well, so best start in franchise history. That

1385
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 4: was a great story to come out of the blocks.

1386
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 4: With second story for me was, I guess the yang

1387
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 4: of that story the losing streak this team went on

1388
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 4: from November twenty six to December eighteenth. They were one

1389
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 4: to nine, they'd lost five to one to one and

1390
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 4: lost four and you really started to question her. You know,

1391
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 4: is this team that looked like it was absolutely gonna

1392
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 4: be in the playoffs a week ago based on that start,

1393
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 4: now starting to lose that opportunity. Obviously things have changed

1394
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 4: just of late with the winning streak and the points

1395
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 4: in five that they've gone on. So the best starting

1396
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 4: franchise history number one, the losing streak number two. Number

1397
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 4: three for me was the decision to keep Berkeley Catton.

1398
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 4: Now you know, you can say, well, this isn't the

1399
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 4: right place for him. He should have been back at junior.

1400
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 4: He should have been a world juniors, but this team

1401
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 4: decided to keep him. I think a big part of

1402
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 4: it was based on off of injuries. I think that

1403
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 4: they they decided to keep him here for that reason,

1404
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 4: for the reason of he's going to develop faster at

1405
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 4: this level. He's gonna he's going to transition his junior

1406
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 4: game to the NHL game faster being here, Even if

1407
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 4: he's not playing every game. You got to get him

1408
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 4: playing to develop. You can't just have him practice in

1409
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 4: But I think that decision to keep him here is

1410
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 4: going to turn him into a top contributing forward faster

1411
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 4: than it would have been having sent him back to junior.

1412
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you both have hit on all three

1413
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 3: of mine.

1414
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 7: I think anytime you make a coaching change, I mean

1415
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 7: that's that's my time storyline of the calendar year. You know,

1416
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 7: your third coach in three years, and and.

1417
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 3: I mean we could have gone five honestly.

1418
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 7: You know, you bring Lane and for the first time

1419
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 7: you've got a more defensive, a structured coach, and it's

1420
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 7: paid off dividends. So anytime you do that, and I'm

1421
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 7: gonna lump in the managerial changes as well with that

1422
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 7: the best start in franchise history. That's my second storyline

1423
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 7: as well. I was I was looking at some numbers

1424
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 7: the other day and just looking at where this team

1425
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 7: was projected to finish and where this team, you know,

1426
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 7: you listen to certain people on the national circuit who

1427
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 7: never want to give this team credit. Beginning of the year. Oh,

1428
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 7: cracket are gonna be thirty of thirty two. They're gonna be.

1429
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 3: At the bottom.

1430
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 7: I've got no hope, no prayer for this team. And

1431
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 7: they come out, you say, twenty two points in their

1432
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 7: first However many games.

1433
01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 2: Like seventeen seventeen points in the first twenty two, seventeen.

1434
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 3: Points in the first twin to two games. I mean

1435
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 3: that is.

1436
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 7: If that's not silencing the detractors, I don't know what is.

1437
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 7: And then my third storyline, I'm gonna go a bit

1438
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 7: a little bit off the reservation here, but I think

1439
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 7: it's gonna be. It has to be the play of

1440
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 7: Matt Even here's for me this season, turning into that

1441
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 7: two way centerment, turning into a defensively responsible centerment. You know,

1442
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 7: I think he had that sophomore slump we all talked

1443
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 7: about last year. You know, he bounced us back a

1444
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 7: little bit. But now you're seeing the center of the future,

1445
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 7: right your your future one a, your probable future captain.

1446
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 7: At some point you sign him to that big extension,

1447
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 7: and now he's he's finding areas of his game. And

1448
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 7: I think if there's one player right now on this

1449
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 7: roster who probably is the most vital, the most important

1450
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 7: to the future success of this team, it's number ten. Yea,

1451
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 7: and his game aim this year has been very very

1452
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 7: nice to see. I need him to score more goals and.

1453
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 3: Then I'll tell him that to his face. I love you, Maddy.

1454
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 3: I need more than.

1455
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 7: Game.

1456
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:13,439
Speaker 3: I need more than four.

1457
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 7: But that for me watching him develop into that responsible

1458
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 7: he loves Patrice Bergeron, but that's the comparison you get.

1459
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 7: I'm starting to see it. And because of that two

1460
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 7: way game of his, that's my third storyline that he's

1461
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 7: been able to develop that.

1462
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I just want to correct one statement. The

1463
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 4: Kraken had points in seventeen of twenty two games. They're

1464
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 4: actually had twenty eight points on November twenty third. I

1465
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 4: want to correct that because I know someone listens going

1466
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 4: that's not right. So that's the correction there. The other

1467
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 4: comment I want to make is, okay, my my four

1468
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 4: fourth story is that three goalie story. Yeah, you know

1469
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 4: it was talked about a lot in the preseason. I

1470
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 4: think that it's it's turned out to be a genius move,

1471
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 4: but not just having three goalies, but Colins Zulnel as well,

1472
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 4: the role he has in and played with.

1473
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: Be remiss without mentioning Colin zu Leonello. To end this

1474
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: calendar you're on this podcast.

1475
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 4: What he's done to keep these three goalies hungry, to

1476
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 4: keep them ready, to keep them at the top of

1477
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 4: their game. I give him all the credit of getting

1478
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 4: Gruby to where he is right now, and also getting

1479
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 4: Matt Murray in a place where you know he was

1480
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 4: injured for a while. I think he's he's close to

1481
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 4: being ready to go, if not ready, to get him

1482
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 4: into a place where when he comes in he's playing well.

1483
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 4: To have three goaltenders playing this well is incredible.

1484
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 7: Go back and listen to some of our pregame chats

1485
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 7: with Ley Lambert and he he cannot help, but heap

1486
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 7: all the praise on top of Colin and his work

1487
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 7: with these three guys.

1488
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 1: Time for our three stars here to wrap up this

1489
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: show and to wrap up twenty twenty five. I'll first

1490
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: off begin with Elie Toulvenan as my third Star NHL

1491
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: second Star of the Week from this last week six

1492
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: game points streak he had carrying into Vancouver, which tied

1493
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: a career high. But the abrasiveness he had and the

1494
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,839
Speaker 1: ability in the willingness again to shoot the puck with purpose,

1495
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: I thought told me that he's searching for something deeper

1496
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: with his game, and he is finding results with that

1497
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: as far as an effect, and it's helping elevate Chandler

1498
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 1: Stevenson and his line as well, because Stevenson's playing his

1499
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: best hockey really at this point heading into twenty twenty six,

1500
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: and the two kind of go hand in hand. But

1501
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: Ellie Tolbenen well deserved for the NHL Second Star of

1502
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 1: the Week. He's my third star. My second star is

1503
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 1: Jordan Eberley, who scored clutch goals at Anaheim clutch a

1504
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 1: clutch goal at Los Angeles, who get the Kraken on

1505
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 1: the board. He was the first guy on the board

1506
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: as well against Philadelphia. He's on track right now for

1507
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 1: about a thirty goal season. He is turning back the

1508
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 1: clock to early Edmonton years right now, and we're showing

1509
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: that he's still got a We're seeing that he still

1510
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 1: got much more in the tank when you can when

1511
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: health is on his side, versus what was an unfortunate

1512
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 1: season last year with the catastrophic collision he had against

1513
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: Chicago and then just coming back for about what was

1514
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: like a fraction of the season. But he is turning

1515
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: up the heat right now at the right time. And

1516
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 1: I think for any question marks you had maybe with him,

1517
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: Maddy Banier, is that line being put together? They are

1518
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: being answered in resounding fashion. Jordan Eberley is my second start,

1519
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: my first star. I'm gonna go with youth here. Jacob

1520
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:26,799
Speaker 1: Allanson thirty four hits in eight NHL games this season.

1521
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 1: He is an absolute battering ram. He's got an edge.

1522
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: And again, as I said, saying this with maybe some

1523
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 1: measure of calculation, you keep doing this over and over,

1524
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,719
Speaker 1: you're putting yourself on track to become a deep track

1525
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: fan favorite line. He is a big part of this

1526
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: right now. Jacob Allanson is my first start of the week.

1527
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, let me just add on to that Jacob mollanson comment,

1528
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 4: because he's not one of my three stars, but I'll

1529
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 4: make it my fourth. You talk about those hits going

1530
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 4: into the gate last game. Ellie Tolvenen leads this team

1531
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 4: in hits. Total hits averages about two point five per game.

1532
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 4: Tykrcha is second in total hits. He averages about two

1533
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 4: point three per game. Jacob Mollnson right now is averaging

1534
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 4: almost four and a half pits per game. So he's

1535
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 4: on paste to take this lead over if he was

1536
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 4: to play every game the rest of the season. That's

1537
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 4: exciting and I look forward to seeing more of Can.

1538
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: You imagine him by the way against the Florida Panthers

1539
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: because we haven't seen them yet.

1540
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, my goodness, I can't wait.

1541
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 4: In terms of my three stars, I gotta go with

1542
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 4: the captain first. Jordan Neberley. Four goals, one assess plus

1543
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 4: two over those last four games over the last week.

1544
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 4: I love seeing Jordan Neberley grab that first goal of

1545
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 4: the game. I love seeing Jordan Neberley in a one

1546
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 4: to one situation go get that go ahead goal in

1547
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 4: the second or third period. I love seeing him be

1548
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 4: the first guy on the ice after Jacob Mallonson and

1549
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,480
Speaker 4: Ben Myers are out in the ice here for practice,

1550
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 4: like he is showing his leadership style at the highest

1551
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 4: level right now. So I love that about Jordan Neberley.

1552
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 4: And over the last week he was my third star,

1553
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 4: second star. It was the second Star of the week

1554
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 4: for the NHL l E twelve and two goals for

1555
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 4: assists plus five in that in that timeframe. I didn't

1556
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 4: write it down, but probably a dozen hits as well

1557
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 4: over those four games. You know the difference between Ellie

1558
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 4: Tolvenan and Jacob Lahnson is Jacob Mallanson is a crowd

1559
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 4: pleasing hitter, like he is going to throw that open

1560
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 4: ice hit, He's going to put somebody on their back

1561
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 4: in the corner, Whereas Ellie Tolvenan, he's a quiet hitter,

1562
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 4: which means he's just gonna finish every reach out quietly.

1563
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:27,759
Speaker 3: Did you see Mallanson take out Tyler Myers?

1564
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 4: I did see that. We didn't talk about that. I

1565
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 4: wanted to see a replay because him also. I wanted

1566
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 4: to see replays. I thought, did Jacob Mollatson just put

1567
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 4: Tyler Myers on his back?

1568
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 7: I saw it in a highlight like later that night,

1569
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 7: But again it happened behind the place, so the puck

1570
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 7: was already in the other end of the ice and

1571
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 7: out of the corner of my eye. I'm like, no

1572
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 7: bleeping away, did Tyler Myers?

1573
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: There are seeds here opposing players who have taken who

1574
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 1: have taken liberties on craw and players here, and Jacob

1575
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 1: Allanson it feels like right now is with within the

1576
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 1: bounds of his own game and being responsible, is trying

1577
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 1: to now keep receipts and payball.

1578
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 3: So I told SATs here on the when our interview,

1579
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 3: I was like.

1580
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 7: The krack and now have got three public enemies between Myers,

1581
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 7: Paspacil and Cale mccar.

1582
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're still booming, kar I love it.

1583
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 2: No.

1584
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 4: I I saw Myers go onto his back. I saw

1585
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 4: Mallanson skating away. I didn't see the actual contact made,

1586
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 4: and I meant to go back and look at that

1587
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 4: to see if that's not.

1588
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 3: The other day, and I was like, he absolutely right.

1589
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 4: So that was one of his hits. And then my

1590
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 4: number one star of the past week is Philip Grubauer.

1591
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 4: He had two wins in that time, stopping thirty seven

1592
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 4: shots on goal on average over those two goal games,

1593
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 4: as well as a forty one shot on goal high

1594
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 4: high for the franchise, nine seven save percentage on average. Again,

1595
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 4: he's playing the top of his game right now. I

1596
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 4: look forward to the next time he's in net.

1597
01:13:58,880 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1598
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 7: I mean I ided five stars of the week. I'm

1599
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 7: gonna go by my third star. The kids. I mean

1600
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 7: that line just again impacting every game that they've played in.

1601
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 7: I go back to Carts mixing it up at Anaheim,

1602
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 7: Jacob Alansen all of his hits. Winderton gets back on

1603
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 7: that line last game and helps to generate some offense

1604
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 7: as well.

1605
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 3: So give me that.

1606
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 7: Jordan Eberley the captain number two for me, leading by

1607
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 7: example with his four goals, getting the first goal of

1608
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 7: the game. You said it, he's finding the fountain of

1609
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 7: youth again, going back to early Edmonton days, and I

1610
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 7: think if this team wants to have success this year,

1611
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 7: they're going to need the captain. And we would also

1612
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,799
Speaker 7: be remiss without if we didn't mention. Listen, the Kraken

1613
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 7: Vets have been in the headlines this week. Is in

1614
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 7: terms of are they going to get moved? Everly's name

1615
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 7: has come up and you know, you're.

1616
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: Just go down and listen, see who's a UFA. They

1617
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 1: are well very much in the center of the conversation.

1618
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 7: And I think a guy like Jordan Everly to put

1619
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 7: that out of his mind and the games that we've

1620
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 7: seen from him this week, I mean all year really,

1621
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 7: but for me, four goals in a week, that's amazing.

1622
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 7: And then I mean, you're second star of the week,

1623
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 7: you're my first star of the week.

1624
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 3: Ellie's told it.

1625
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 7: I mean Et has put together some some of his

1626
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 7: best hockey that I think we've seen from him in

1627
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 7: a cracking uniform. Never mind the stats, it's the hits,

1628
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 7: it's the defending, it's the blocking shots. He's he's been

1629
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 7: in the middle of some extra curriculars you know as well.

1630
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 7: Really a complete game out of him the last week for.

1631
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 4: Me, just some honorable mention too, only because I wrote

1632
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 4: it down. I did the home run Freddy goodrou two

1633
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 4: goals plus four over the last week, Maddy Benier's three

1634
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 4: assists plus two over the last week, Coppo Coco same thing,

1635
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 4: three assists plus one, and Chandler Stevenson a goal and

1636
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 4: two assists plus three. So some additional guys that were

1637
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 4: flirting with that third or second second, second star, but

1638
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 4: absolutely contributing.

1639
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: How are you into New Year's restiutions, Yeah, I'm gonna

1640
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 1: hit the gym more.

1641
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 7: I'm going to join al on the road in the

1642
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 7: in the gyms because I use your round of water

1643
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 7: to go find yeah, refill his bottle. Yeah yeah, No,

1644
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 7: you know what my New Year's resolution, I'm gonna I'm

1645
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 7: gonna get a little cheesy here. I am going to

1646
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 7: I'm going to play more hockey with my son.

1647
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, guy, he beats a guy.

1648
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 7: I don't like being beat by a three year old.

1649
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 7: So my New Year's resolution is to get better than

1650
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 7: my three year old son in hockey.

1651
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1652
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,719
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not a big resolution guy just because

1653
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 4: I hate how they happened January first, most of them

1654
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 4: en by January fifteenth. But I'm certainly gonna take the

1655
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,799
Speaker 4: month of January and try and eat a little cleaner

1656
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 4: whatever that entails, maybe a little bit less alcohol.

1657
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 3: You're not doing dr January.

1658
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 2: I didn't say dry. I didn't say dry. You shut

1659
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 2: that up?

1660
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 1: Did that last year? I did that last year.

1661
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 4: By the way, I have too many events in January

1662
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 4: that involved alcohol. I can't say no but one days,

1663
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 4: maybe twenty of them, I get dry for eating a

1664
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 4: little healthier, exercise a little bit more, and again, I

1665
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 4: want to try and carry it as far as possible.

1666
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 4: So if I say dry January, that's not going to

1667
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 4: go twelve months. But if I say a little better,

1668
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 4: eating a little less alcohol, I can keep it going

1669
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 4: for the rest of it.

1670
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm trying to trim a little bit of the holiday

1671
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: pounds off of here, so that that's the big thing

1672
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: for me, and I think within the discipline of that,

1673
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 1: it's not so much. I think the extra stuff, like

1674
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, the adult beverages, the sugar. It's more like

1675
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 1: you know, cheese. For me, cheese is my weakness. I'm

1676
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 1: trying to Yeah, cheese can be my weakness. So I

1677
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 1: think a little bit less of that, you know, coming

1678
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 1: up in this next month. But I mean, I want

1679
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:39,799
Speaker 1: to dive back into the book one of my favorites

1680
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: of all time, Atomic Habits by James Clear. Folks, if

1681
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,719
Speaker 1: you have not read it yet, it is a life changer.

1682
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 1: It is a game changer, yes for you. I do

1683
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 1: read books, by the way. I'm not just a guy

1684
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: who just recorded the buttons buttons and stuff.

1685
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 2: I try.

1686
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 1: I try to get in touch grass anyway. But you know,

1687
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 1: James Clear, Atomic Habits, I think is a great one

1688
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 1: of lifebook which I think really sets you up for

1689
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: the kind of person that you want to be, and

1690
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: it teaches more about structure, kind of like using the

1691
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: Hockey term of this, and how it reinforces habits and

1692
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 1: makes this easier for you to repeat over and over

1693
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 1: and over. To the bottom line, the more habits you

1694
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 1: build up, you get better point zero one percent every day.

1695
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 1: But you do it day by day by day. Pure

1696
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 1: math that adds up to doing what you want to

1697
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 1: do better. And so I think for me to kind

1698
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 1: of round all this, I want to get back into

1699
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,480
Speaker 1: the book Atomic Habits, which is I think an absolute

1700
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 1: game changering.

1701
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 4: Reading books in school. I really did my book. My

1702
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 4: idea of book, I've seen you on the plane. I've

1703
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 4: not seen you dive yet into a book. My idea

1704
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 4: of reading the book when I was a kid was

1705
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 4: reading Mad magazine.

1706
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 3: I tell my life all the time. I know how

1707
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 3: to read.

1708
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 7: My life is now two years in a row of

1709
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 7: reading over one hundred books.

1710
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 2: Congratulations, and she's.

1711
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 7: Reading Shelle is reading War and Peace like These aren't

1712
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 7: like ninety age books. These are three four, five hundred

1713
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 7: page books that she's reading and listening to.

1714
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 3: And yes, audio books count as reading audiobooks count.

1715
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: That's our next full question here, do audiobooks county?

1716
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 2: We're kidding?

1717
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 3: But no, Yeah, my wife she is she reads enough

1718
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 3: for the both of us.

1719
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 1: I'm in the same boat here. I can't hold a

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01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 1: candle to my wife, Amy who I've seen her pick

1721
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 1: up a three hundred page book for Christmas or for

1722
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 1: a birthday present, and she literally has plowed through half

1723
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:36,520
Speaker 1: the book in one day. It is unbelievable.

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01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 4: I think we just got our question of the week.

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01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 4: There we go audiobook reading, or is it not, because

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01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 4: we can.

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01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: Do that tomorrow. By the way, for the Kraken and Nashville,

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01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 1: that's called the Segway. Also in broadcast Land, that's up

1729
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,679
Speaker 1: next here for the Kraken. Back to back once again.

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01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 1: New Year's Day, please join us for the Kraken and

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01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 1: the predators from Climate Pledgerina join us as well in

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01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 1: the House on Her Wives six thirty as usual, put

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01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 1: dropping at seven o'clock one once again. Everett. Now off

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01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: to Vancouver. I'll be back in studio seven thirty Friday

1735
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 1: for the Kraken and the Canucks, and then on the

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01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 1: Calgary we all go six thirty puck drop Pacific times,

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01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 1: six pm local time airtime, and then back to back again,

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01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: ending back at home next Tuesday. Crack in Boston seven

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01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 1: o'clock puck drop, six thirty airtimes. Certainly hope that you

1740
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 1: can join us, friends, and we'll do it big. Thanks

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01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 1: a sad to our shop for joining us. Happy New

1742
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: Year for Everett. Now I'm Mike. See you if you're

1743
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 1: home for the Kraken. Sports Radio ninety three point three

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Speaker 1: kjr FM,