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Speaker 1: Six thirty seven, seven hundred WLWRNL Carrier Sports Talk presented

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Speaker 1: by Kelsey Chevrolet. My first guest is a Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame college basketball writer. This week's trip to Indianapolis in

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Speaker 1: the Final Four will be his thirtieth and last. Is

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Speaker 1: a full time employee the Sporting News. He will be

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Speaker 1: retiring from the position in July. Still going to see

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Speaker 1: him Big Ten Network and maybe other things. He's been

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Speaker 1: a guest on this show throughout those thirty years. What

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Speaker 1: a treat to welcome in once again. Mike de COURSI Hi,

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Speaker 1: Mike Las, how are you? I am well, and I

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Speaker 1: will say upfront, congratulations. I know you're not completely done,

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Speaker 1: but what a run you've had.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you. That's very kind. You know. It was

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Speaker 2: pretty close to the start of being in Cincinnati. I

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Speaker 2: spent one year in.

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Speaker 3: Memphis as the college basketball columns.

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Speaker 2: It started as a part time.

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Speaker 3: Deal, going going one column a week for the Sporting

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Speaker 3: News that's the way it used to be done, and

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Speaker 3: they hired me five years later after my four years

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Speaker 2: My last Bearcat game.

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Speaker 3: Was down in Nashville, covering the Bearcats in their NCAA tournament,

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Speaker 3: lost to Tulsa, and obviously I was on the scene

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Speaker 3: for the Kenyon Martin situation and.

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Speaker 4: Always thought, you know, one of my goals, when a small,

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Speaker 4: small goal as a newspaper writer, was I wanted to

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Speaker 4: have one of those front pages that's on the wall

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Speaker 4: in the sports bar, even if it was on the wall.

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Speaker 2: In the bathroom, I wanted to have that.

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Speaker 3: And when Kenyon broke his leg, that.

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Speaker 2: Was the end of that.

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Speaker 1: You've covered college basketball in places like Memphis and India

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Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh, and as you've mentioned, Cincinnati. What was it

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Speaker 1: like covering college basketball in this town from ninety seven

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Speaker 1: to two thousand.

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Speaker 3: Well, one of the beautiful things about my experience after

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Speaker 3: I left.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, we may have lost, we may have lost.

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Speaker 2: Mike. Let me Russ, Let's do this.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's draw. I'm going to drop him and call

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Speaker 1: him back and see if we can establish a better line.

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Speaker 1: I'll do that and we'll get Mike back. Mike was

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Speaker 1: here from ninety seven to two thousand. He was at

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Speaker 1: the Get Kenyon the Ball game at Rosemont Horizon against

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Speaker 1: the DePaul Blue Demons. He wrote this week about the

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Speaker 1: Final four experiences in his Top ten Final Four memories

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Speaker 1: I want to ask him about as well. I want

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Speaker 1: to ask him about Indy hosting the Final Four and more.

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Speaker 1: And let's let's get him back in here. There is, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Are you back.

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Speaker 2: I'm back, all right, I'm sorry what I heard your

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Speaker 2: question about what it was like in Cincinnati. One one

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Speaker 2: of the interesting things about it was when I was

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Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, I didn't think I was ever going to

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Speaker 2: leave five. I was a little bit of a fish

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Speaker 2: out of water. All my contemporary who grew up wanting

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Speaker 2: all grew up at the same time as I did,

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Speaker 2: that the opposition for pitt whoever it might have been,

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Speaker 2: that night, shifted into a two three zone and one

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Speaker 2: it was kind of like, uh So, when I went

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Speaker 2: was like, wait a second, you understand that? Tell us more.

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Speaker 2: And Cincinnati was so much like that. And the rivalry

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Speaker 2: And so to be in Cincinnati, to be in in

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Speaker 1: Mike. I believe you were at because I can. I

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Speaker 1: can remember reading your story. You were at get Kenyon

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Speaker 2: That's another story, lamp So. I mean, they were playing

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Speaker 2: I write whatever I wrote about how poorly they played.

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Speaker 2: And then while I'm starting this, in the four minute

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Speaker 2: telling the players, if anybody but Kenyan, if any if

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Speaker 2: your scholarship. While he while that's happening, I'm writing, Man,

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Speaker 2: they play loudy and Quentin Richardson scored twenty five or

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Speaker 2: I just love, reached over to me and he said,

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Speaker 2: I saw that stuff you were righting about us, and

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Speaker 2: he didn't and if I can say, he did not

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Speaker 1: Oh that's beautiful. That is beautiful. I'm so glad to

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Speaker 1: ask you about that. You wrote this week or may

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the first, the number one memory that I listed

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Speaker 2: But they brought him out and he answered questions because

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Speaker 2: I remember Bobby Hurley's shot, what a huge shot it was.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't think that I did justice to the

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Speaker 2: did on ninety six Kentucky the greatest team I've ever

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Speaker 1: You've been to so many different Final four sites. What

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Speaker 2: I think so highly of atlant that there shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: San Antonio, I like visiting there. I like New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: sure if I want to go there for a Final Four,

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Speaker 2: because I think it should always be here. It's the

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Speaker 2: I didn't like at Lance was in twenty fifteen when

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Speaker 2: I love beeing Deeth every night, but it's the Final Four.

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Speaker 2: I want to be hooped twenty four hours a day.

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Speaker 1: I got to ask you before we conclude about this

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Speaker 1: to speak on it, perhaps you haven't written about it.

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Speaker 1: How do you see the final four playing out?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think Arizona is the best team.

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Speaker 2: But what I think about Michigan after watching them over

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Speaker 2: when when they got into the Big ten tournament, and

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Speaker 2: maybe it was just we already went nineteen to one

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Speaker 2: in this league and the real things, you know, the

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Speaker 2: real big deal is in a week from now. But

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Speaker 2: they went all the way to the final and they

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Speaker 2: just never looked like like an elite championship level team.

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Speaker 2: And then the tournament started and they resumed playing like

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Speaker 2: an elite national championship level team. What I think, the

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Speaker 2: way I describe it is this, if Michigan gets to

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Speaker 1: Wow, Now that's a stat to conclude on excellent. All right,

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Speaker 1: Your appearances on this show have made my show better

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Lance, But if you stop calling me,

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Hey again, congrats, thank

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, thank you, Liz, Thanks Mike.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Mike the Corsi Hall of Fame college

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