1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: And Rock big giant spread in the inquiry today the 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: Cincinnati dot com about drugs in prison. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: New and creative ways to get high, right, apparently going 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: on in prisons, and I assume everywhere. 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Right, Well it's a new thing called K two, but Rock, 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: it's not just the K two thing. It seems like 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: every day you read about something a new way to 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: get high, right. 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: And whether it's people smuggling this stuff in and again 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: we'll talk about the creative ways that people are doing that, 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: but apparently it's a big problem. 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: Well, here to discuss is our old friend. We always 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: love talking to this guy. We don't talk to him enough, 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: and maybe that's a good sign, Todd, that's some of 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: this drug addiction stuff is taking is being taken care of. 16 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: But he is the chief of police and new Town 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: co chair of the Interdiction Committee at Hamlin County Office 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: of Addiction Response. He has been around with us for 19 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: many years and the law enforcement community respects the hell 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: out of this guy. Our good friend Tom signing, Tom, 21 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: welcome back to the program. 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: Hey, it's good to be back. Good to hear from 23 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 3: you guys. 24 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: Thank you so Tom. 25 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: You and I were communicating today, even you don't know 26 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: a lot about this K two stuff. 27 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 4: Huh, Yeah, we don't see it much in our overdoses. 28 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 4: Now I have followed it on a national level, and 29 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 4: what it is is a synthetic Canada void and Canada 30 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 4: b adoid. Easy for me to say, it's really just 31 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 4: the synthetic part. It's really trying to mimic the THC 32 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 4: found in marijuana. Now across the country. It has caused 33 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 4: some problems, especially in Connecticut and Washington, d C. 34 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 5: A few years ago is big. 35 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 4: In Washington, DC caused nearly one hundred overdoses in four days. 36 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 4: So it is something that can cause quite a bit 37 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 4: of damage. And the way you transported and the acquired 38 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 4: did a fantastic job and are always so good when 39 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: it comes to drugs and how they're finding trends and 40 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 4: staying on top of it. But you can just spray 41 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 4: it on a plant material, you can spray it on 42 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 4: rolling papers. And it makes sense that, especially in a 43 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 4: prison system, not that I take people to jail out. 44 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 4: I don't work within that system. It's a whole different ecosystem. 45 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 4: But it makes sense something along that line, like a 46 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 4: K two a spice would come in there. 47 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: Because I took a tour of the Hemon County Detention Center, 48 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 2: a voluntary tour by the way, didn't have to stay 49 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: there at night, and some of the folks that worked 50 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: there who were great, we're talking about kind of the 51 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: same thing, like of all the just unique and creative ways. 52 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: It said that one way that people got drugs in 53 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: was they take a piece of paper and you spray 54 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: it with raid, like you know, like the bug killer 55 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: or the wasp pillar, that kind of thing. Let it 56 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: soak up, let it dry, then you write your note 57 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: on it. 58 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: But what it is is then people were in jail 59 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: receive that note, they burn it and can get high 60 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: off of it. So they got to scan every piece 61 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: of paper. They said, it's just crazy the different creative 62 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: ways they find to get stuff in. 63 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just like the street. It's just a whole 64 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 4: different environment. And you would think in a prison system 65 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 4: would be much more challenging. And I hate to say 66 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 4: this that I'm not being flippant at all, but where 67 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 4: there's a mean, where there's a will, there's definitely a means. 68 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 4: And like I said, it Acquired does a fantastic job 69 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 4: of following this and reading that article this weekend, and 70 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 4: they were talking about in the past where the prison 71 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 4: personnel found out about this and now are scanning a 72 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 4: lot of things electronically, making copies and doing it that way. 73 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 3: But sometimes it doesn't even. 74 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 4: Take something necessarily tech technology or some kind of maneuver 75 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 4: like that, and the acquire picked upon this. And this 76 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 4: is a trend we see sometimes around treatment facilities, is 77 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 4: people just tossing it over the side of the wall, 78 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 4: the fence, whatever it may be, someone smuggling something in. 79 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 4: It can get pretty low tech, and that's what ends 80 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 4: up being challenging is how do you just like we 81 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 4: on the street, how are we able to stop all 82 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 4: the products coming in, know who's using. But you in 83 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 4: a contained area like a prison, how do they how 84 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 4: are they able to stop everything from coming in? Especially 85 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 4: if you're just thrown over the wall or someone and 86 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 4: someone springing in you spray something on a piece of paper, 87 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 4: how that is extremely difficult to figure out what's on 88 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 4: that piece of paper unless you can test it, which 89 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 4: is very difficult to pass, costs a lot of money, 90 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 4: a lot of time. And there's some legal stuff where 91 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 4: people do have to have paper sign and stuff coming 92 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 4: in for legal reasons. So it's a whole different environment, 93 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 4: the concepts the same. There's people out there trying to 94 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 4: make money. They're going to find a way to make money. 95 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 4: There's people out there with addiction or substance, choose disorder, 96 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 4: and they're going to try to find a way of 97 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 4: taking advantage of that and make money. 98 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: So, Tom, let me ask you kind of started out 99 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: by saying this, but where do these new drugs come from? 100 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: Is it just an offshoot of something else? I mean, 101 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: is it the I don't know. Is there some guy 102 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: in Mexico in a lab that's doing it. Is there 103 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: some guy in Westfordvirginia that's doing it in the lab. 104 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: I don't know where this stuff comes from. But it 105 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: seems like, you know, like I was saying coming into this, 106 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 1: that you're always hearing of something brand new that nobody's 107 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: ever heard of before. 108 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 2: I want to know who these signed it to the starre. 109 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 4: That's exactly what it is. A's scientists and chemist. And 110 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 4: you had to think about this and Cincinnati has this 111 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 4: unique qualifier and that we were one of the first 112 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 4: ones in the country to see car fentanyl, which caused 113 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 4: nearly two hundred overdoses and I talked about that week 114 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 4: August nineteen through the twenty seven to twenty sixteen. I'll 115 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 4: never forget it because it literally transformed the drug landscape, 116 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: not only here in Cincinnati, Ohio, but across the country. 117 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 4: And that switched from the organic to the synthetics, and 118 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 4: synthetics changed the game for everything from as far as 119 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 4: addiction goes, the potency of drugs to the quickness of 120 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 4: being able to cycle drugs into the supply. It changed 121 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 4: the production of it, so thing is pretty much synthetic now. 122 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 4: I was just on a national drug call and there's 123 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 4: a new opioid that none of us have ever heard 124 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 4: before that just popped up. And all they're literally doing 125 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 4: is changing one molecule and a chemical and then changing 126 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 4: the entire drug structure. And I was joking with somebody 127 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 4: on that call, and I said, there's really no end 128 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 4: to this, is there. And they're actually someone who is 129 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 4: a chemist and knows all these. 130 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 3: Ingredients how to do it, and they said, there absolutely 131 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 3: is no end to it. 132 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 4: So having stuff switch to synthetics not only makes it 133 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 4: more dangerous for the public, but also it is much 134 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 4: more challenging to fight from the drug enforcement side, and 135 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 4: think about this. We were having trouble when it was 136 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,239 Speaker 4: organics of the plants of coca or poppy seeds of heroin. 137 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: So it has really. 138 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 4: Changed the game, and I don't know how you keep 139 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 4: up with it. Fetanol has nearly over five thousand potential 140 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 4: different analogs that could be made into we're not even 141 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 4: close to seeing that. So you take any kind of 142 00:06:55,760 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 4: drug like synthetic marijuana, the synthetic cannibaldoid, you're taking this 143 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 4: plant drug and making this synthetic and literally you can 144 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 4: change the composure of the molecules and make it into 145 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 4: something completely different. It is extremely difficult to keep up with. 146 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 4: And this is going to be the challenger of our 147 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 4: day when it comes to drugs, and we'll never go 148 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 4: back to what we were before with the introduction of 149 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 4: the synthetics back in twenty sixteen or even before. 150 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: So Tom, look, there's some out there that would say, look, 151 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: if a bunch of criminals inside a justice center want 152 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: to off themselves, why should I care? So what problems 153 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: do do drugs in prisons create that maybe the average 154 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: person isn't aware of. 155 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'm going to always go back to 156 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 4: We've got to think about the people using. The vast 157 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 4: majority of people in jail are there for substance use 158 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 4: disorder or some kind of mental health conditions, So it's 159 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 4: not everyone's a murderer or everyone is some kind of killer. 160 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: So you have to look at that scale too. 161 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: It is often as someone who has something going on 162 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 4: since use disorder, mental health disorder, and they're sitting in prison, 163 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 4: they're obviously a right market for people to take advantage of. 164 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 4: For me, especially when it's someone like that that is 165 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 4: still somebody's mother, father, brother, sister, son, or daughter. There 166 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 4: is a human aspect of that, and there is a 167 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 4: cost to pay, not only from the family side, but 168 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 4: from a financial cost. You're still paying money for someone 169 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: to be in prison, and you're still paying money when 170 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 4: someone dies. You're paying money for these officers to be 171 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: taken away to try to find these drugs coming in there. 172 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 4: And the other thing too is often it's not just 173 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 4: killing everybody. I think there's this misconception that there's this 174 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 4: all these people that are dying from drugs and drug overdoses, 175 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 4: and that's not the case. 176 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: A lot of people do survive. 177 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 4: They become addicted, they may go into comas, they have 178 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 4: long term health conditions. Those are things that impact us all, 179 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 4: especially when it comes to health care. What we should 180 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 4: be trying to do is can we work on those 181 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 4: with substance use disorder and mental health, especially in a 182 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 4: prison system. I know this sounds kind of you know, 183 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 4: we've been talking like this for ten years, but think 184 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 4: about the coalition. It really was changing the way we 185 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 4: view and deal with addiction. We dropped drug overdoses in 186 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 4: the CINCINNTI Hamlet Care County area by sixty six percent 187 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 4: five hundred and seventeen twenty seventeen, one hundred and ninety 188 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 4: four in twenty twenty five. This works when we get 189 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 4: people long term care and get more people into long 190 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 4: term care so that they're not addicted, so they're not 191 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 4: going into prison. It takes a little bit more on 192 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 4: the front end, a little bit more investment, but in 193 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 4: the back end we pay huge dividends because those are 194 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 4: people coming back out into society who have jobs, cars, transportations, 195 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 4: and family. It makes more sense to try to get 196 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 4: somebody long term recovery than just to have an attitude 197 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 4: of just let them do what or they want to 198 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 4: do and die. 199 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 3: We still pay for it. 200 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 4: We just don't get money on the back end like 201 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 4: we would if we get people into long term care. 202 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: Well, and I would think, I mean, my thought goes 203 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 2: to the folks that work there, the prison guard. I 204 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: wouldn't want to deal with somebody who's hopped up on 205 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: some drug that I don't know what through, how erratics 206 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: are going to behave and what it's going to do 207 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: to them, and some of them, you know, make you 208 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: want to fight and make you really strong, you know 209 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: what I mean. So I would I would think that 210 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 2: would be a major issue for the folks that work there. 211 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 2: You don't know what you're dealing with when you got 212 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: somebody on god knows what every single day. 213 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great point. 214 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 4: It is impacting those people too, and they're seeing it 215 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 4: not only from like you said, the potential physical danger, 216 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 4: but they're seeing them emotionally and mentally. And as the 217 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 4: first responder seeing these things and dealing with them, you're 218 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 4: gonna there's gonna be could be back end cost on 219 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 4: that with mental health for first responders. 220 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 3: So it is definitely it takes a toll on us all. 221 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 4: And I wish there was a way to eradicate all drugs, 222 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 4: but there isn't. And I got to continue to say this. 223 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 4: I say this every time we talk. The worst drug 224 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 4: I've ever seen in my career is alcohol, and alcohol 225 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 4: is perfectly legal. So I don't think we're ever going 226 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 4: to get away from the substances. It's a matter of 227 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 4: how do we mitigate that damage, not only on the 228 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 4: outside with what we deal with and a lot of 229 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 4: times what you and we are talking about, but then 230 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 4: to this conversation today about the jail prison system, how 231 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 4: do we mitigate the damage within that prison system so 232 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 4: that not only the people in the prison who may 233 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 4: be getting out aren't long term impacted, but also the 234 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 4: people that are working there aren't long term impacted. We 235 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 4: got to do more, and I think we've done a lot, 236 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 4: but there's still a lot more we can do. And 237 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 4: these are great conversations and questions to be asking and 238 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 4: keep out in the forefront. 239 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: All right, with that, Tom sign it, We will let 240 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: you go, buddy. It is always our pleasure. Keep doing 241 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: what you're doing. 242 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: Hey, thanks guys, I appreciate you guys. 243 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, thanks Tom. Tom was signing. He's been doing 244 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: this for a long time time. Yeah, and obviously very 245 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: passionate about it. 246 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent, and he's seen a lot. Like 247 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: he's the early early on one of the first people 248 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: out there talking about fentanyl. What's that. Well, we all 249 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: know what it is now. 250 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: That guy is a cop through and through. It was 251 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: a yeah, I mean you knew. Oh yeah, it was 252 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: a swat team guy for a while. 253 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,239 Speaker 2: Good stuff. Yeah. 254 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: With that, we check in with traffic and weather. What 255 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: is going on, rock and Rocky We're going on Friday. 256 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:15,359 Speaker 1: Missed a lot by the way, I heard, but yeah, 257 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: you didn't really busy. Uh, but you weren't here because 258 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: you were taking your your football team do Yeah. 259 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're football teams. Seven on seven football were sponsored 260 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: by Black Sheep Performance, great training place here in town. Uh, 261 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: Patrick Coyn, Gavont Harrison. They run that outfit. And yeah, 262 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: we've you know, I've had a team for a while. Yeah, 263 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: we got a we've got a really good team and 264 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: we went to there was a it's called Pylon. It's 265 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: one of the big governing bodies of seven on seven. 266 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: They have tournaments throughout the country and yeah, and some 267 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: of the best best teams in the in the region, 268 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: best teams in the nation come and show up and 269 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 2: we won a whole thing. Man one the one of 270 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: the twelve U division won a blue. We first day 271 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 2: we lost to this team from Detroit. They were those 272 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 2: kids were twelve years old. I want to I want 273 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: to see some verser deificates. There's a lot of mustaches 274 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 2: out there. Okay, let me just tell you that. But yeah, 275 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 2: we came back in the championship game and beat him. Awesome, 276 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: took it to him. Yeah, it was great. So all 277 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: the boys played great and uh proud. 278 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, proud of you and proud of uh and really 279 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: happy for the boys. 280 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: That's gotta be. Yeah, it's been a long time coming. 281 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 5: Man. 282 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: We've uh, you know, we've had again, been working hard 283 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 2: this year and we're close in a couple other tournaments 284 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 2: and didn't work out, but this year we are assoowing. 285 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: This past weekend we took it and moving on the 286 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 2: next one. 287 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: Now, good job, part great, thank you. With that, we 288 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: head to the news news radio seven hundred w l 289 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: W cover. But nonetheless there was a pictures than the 290 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: guys with their their unies on whatever this things would 291 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: calm and Paul's got his back to the camera and 292 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: that was supposed to be one of the signs that 293 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: he was dead. 294 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: Oh how was it right? So they dropped little hens 295 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 2: in there. 296 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: You couldn't really you wouldn't be able to tell it 297 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: was fake, Paul, if they actually you know, just saw 298 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:05,599 Speaker 1: the back of them. 299 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: I love all the one I'm thinking of and you're 300 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: gonna disrespect. But when Tupac's album Don Cluminatti, the Seven 301 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: Day Theory came out, Okay Machavelly supposedly right at the 302 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: beginning of the album, like there's like some kind of 303 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: ruckus going on before the song starts, there's a voice 304 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: that sounds like. 305 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: Shug shot me. And so that was like, oh, Shug 306 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: Knight's the one that actually had him, because the album 307 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: was released after his death, and it was like he 308 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: was pre warning everyone who is his murder. You always 309 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: hear people say if if I get shot, if something 310 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: happens to me, it was right, blah blah, right, Well 311 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: maybe he knew. 312 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: So again, if you're you know, fifty years old, between 313 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: fifty and like forty years old, you know what I'm 314 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: talking about. If you're higher than had her, learn that, 315 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: you have absolutely no clue. 316 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: I know what I just said. I know people got shot. 317 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: Everybody was blaming the other guy. I couldn't tell you 318 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: how it all happened, but yeah, yeah, he's in your car, 319 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: like like you know, rewinding the CD back. 320 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: Is that what he said? I think that's what he said. 321 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: Now back to the Beatles though, so so tell me 322 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: because I was reading up on it today. But like 323 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: right around this time, what was the album before Revolver? 324 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 6: Yeah? 325 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so they like after that one, didn't they just 326 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: say we're not torn anymore. It's exhausting. Crowds are ridiculous, 327 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: We're not doing well. They were working on Revolver when 328 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: they stopped touring, okay, but then after that they're like, 329 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: we're completely done. 330 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: We'll never That was the reason it was such a 331 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: big deal that they did the show on the rooftop 332 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: during that let be. 333 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: Thing, gotcha right, because that was one off. 334 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and even and George didn't even want to do that, 335 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: but they're like, get your ass up there and just 336 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: play a. 337 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: Couple of songs. This is gonna be iconic and big. Yeah. 338 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: But for Sergeant Peppers, like you know, I know, they 339 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: went on like a you know, I got three you know, 340 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 2: three months kind of took a break, like George went 341 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: to like India and learned Hindu or something, and you know, 342 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: John was hanging out with some grown in Yoko. 343 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: No, that was when I was. That was right before 344 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: that started. Sergeant Peppers was, but George was into the 345 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: mystical thing. It was after that that they all went 346 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: to India, and apparently Ringo left because he didn't like 347 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: the food. That's what I always read. Paul didn't like 348 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: the maharishi. John wanted to punch the mahi by the 349 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: end of it, yea, so he left. But George was 350 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: sitting there, you know, sitar and all that. Yeah, cross legged, 351 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: you know. 352 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: I also read that Paul in particular was recording Sergeant 353 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: Peppers was doing a lot of LSD. 354 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: Yoh yeah, yeah, it was expanding mind I was. I 355 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: read that it was I think it was the. 356 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 2: I forget which one of them. 357 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: It was said that Revolver was the pod album and 358 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: Pepper's was the acid album. 359 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 2: But take us back, like, like, what made Sergeant Peppers so, 360 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: I mean, other than the fact there's just a lot 361 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 2: of damn great songs on what what made it so 362 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: iconic or different or stand out even above the top 363 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: of the. 364 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: Well, it was just it was the time and that 365 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, it was the Summer of Love, and it 366 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: was right at the beginning of the summer summer of 367 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: sixty seven, yep, and you know, and all the of course, 368 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: all the chat was about the drug influences and stuff, 369 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: and the hippies glombed onto it, and it just music 370 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: like that had never really been done before in a 371 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: co It was. It's supposed to be kind of a 372 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: meant like a rock like Tommy or something, but it 373 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: didn't really pan out like that. The whole idea was, 374 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: Paul said. His idea was, if we pretend that we're 375 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: not the Beatles, we can douce whatever the hell we 376 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: want to do. 377 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: That was the idea. So if we were like that 378 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 2: didn't sound the Beatles that you can go ah right, 379 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: were not the Beatles were the Sergeant Pepper's only hardst 380 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: club banding. That's what he said. Who didn't Garth Brooks, 381 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: he didn't. He takes some surname on or something similar, 382 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 2: not but not as well received. 383 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: Chris, Yeah, it was Chris some I forget Yeah, yeah, 384 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: Chrises was it? Chris Hayes Sean yeah, but he well 385 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 1: he it was creepy with the Garth Brooks. 386 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had like a like a weird kind of 387 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: skater haircut. Yeah, I didn't get. 388 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: It didn't really didn't work for old Garthy, but yeah, no, 389 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: it just it changed. It changed music and a lot. 390 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: I think there are better Beatles albums, to be honest 391 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: with you, I think better than Pepper's. 392 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just me. 393 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: But that that's you know, that's when Brian Epstein died 394 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: and they just went cuckoo. 395 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 2: Right, that was that was the beginning of the end. 396 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 2: That was like the last. Yeah. 397 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: See John John went from pot to uh acid to 398 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: heroin in about a year. 399 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 2: Not good. That's a rough trip right there. Now, by 400 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: the way, I remember, and I took what was it 401 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: was British lit and at Sane Act. I think my 402 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 2: junior year, Missus Smith was a teacher. She's a no 403 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: nonsense teacher, but she was good. And we were studying 404 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: like the romantic poets, like you know, like Courridge and 405 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: you know, Wadsworth and all that sort of stuff. And 406 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 2: we had a debate topic of like because like it 407 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: was it Samuel Corridge wrote the story or the poem 408 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 2: Kopa Khan, and it was like I think he was 409 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: on like some acid trip. He was like, you know, 410 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 2: and then somebody knocked at the door and he wasn't 411 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: able to finish it, and it was I'm kind of 412 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: you know, transcending kind of thing. But the topic was like, 413 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: what are the ethics involved of taking you know, substances 414 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: to quote unquote expand your mind? Is that really you 415 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 2: writing the song? Should you do that? If the result 416 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: is some great piece of music or literature or art, 417 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: is it worth it? Like, I don't know, I just 418 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 2: remember debating that in school. I don't know from personal. 419 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: Tell us that I'm looking at you like you can 420 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: do something. You can do some serious deep thinking. Man, 421 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you think you are gandhi Olden 422 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: Einstein like write this one down with that thought in mind. 423 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: We check in with traffic and weather. 424 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 7: What is going on, ironic queen, I'm doing the traffic 425 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 7: from the roof today, Yeah. 426 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 2: Exactly, so we be flying out right and early. So now, 427 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: from what I hear, the TSA stuff is getting mitigated right, 428 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: and folks are getting paid. And I know some ICE 429 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 2: agents have been at at at airports reportedly doing a 430 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: great job helping out. So but yeah, we're trying to 431 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: figure out what what time are we going to leave 432 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 2: the house, what times a plane takes flight? I think 433 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: we're we're at five thirty wof Yeah, so that's going 434 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 2: to put us out of the house. Oh boy, three. 435 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 8: Easy. 436 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm just I'm real curious because this new 437 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: payment thing is like, as you said, we're gonna be 438 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: talking to Alex Stone from ABC about it here in 439 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: a little bit. But yeah, that that needs to be 440 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: mitigated and fast fast. 441 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. 442 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean because I mean a couple of 443 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 2: weeks ago, like three and four hour lines at Austin Atlanta, 444 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 2: you know. 445 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: With forty percent of their TSA guys out right, you 446 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: know that's tough. Coming up next, we're going to be 447 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: talking to our friend, uh Ray Trevino Artie is going 448 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: to join us and talk about, hey, the price of gas. 449 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: Where are we heading with this? And it all depends 450 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: obviously on what's going on in Iran and stuff, but 451 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: they're also talking about doing stuff here at home that 452 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: could help with gas taxes and that type of thing. 453 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 2: And you know, the strategic oil reserves. You know, we'll 454 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: ask them all these questions. 455 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: After the news News Radio seven hundred WLW Right back 456 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: with Eddie and Rocky and rock The gas prices continue 457 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: to well, they seem to have kind of stabilized around here. 458 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: The highest I've seen is three ninety nine, but I've 459 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: seen it, you know, there's some I've been, I've driven 460 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: by gas stations that are like three sixty nine round 461 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: these parts. It's three ninety nine, but that's the range 462 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: I've seen at least forty said swing. 463 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been up and down, but it's certainly been 464 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: in general higher than it was, you know, two three 465 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: four months ago kind of thing. So what is the 466 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: is there any end in sight? What's the story? 467 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk to our expert in these matters. We 468 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: always love talking to our good friend Ray Travigno from 469 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: pekos to Country Energy. They are based out of for 470 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: Worth and he knows of what he speaks. Uh, Ray, Archie, 471 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: what is going on? 472 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 3: Buddy? 473 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 2: What can we expect? 474 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: I mean, does this We don't obviously we don't know 475 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: what's going on, but is do you have a rough idea? 476 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: What can we can expect? 477 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 6: Thank you for having me on as always. 478 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 8: I think what we could expect is hopefully gas prices 479 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 8: where they are for the next couple of weeks. And 480 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 8: what do I mean hopefully, I mean hopefully. 481 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 9: They don't go up anymore. 482 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 8: We will see gas prices to probably stabilize, like y'all 483 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 8: mentioned in. 484 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 6: The opener, and even if the conflict. 485 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 9: For the today, we'd probably be. 486 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 8: At these higher gasoline prices for about two or three 487 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 8: weeks until everything was back all as well in Iran. 488 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 2: All right, so talk to us, I Ray about the 489 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: strait of horror moves right, A lot of talk about that, 490 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: and you're getting that reopen to how that could help prices? 491 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 2: What do you know about that? 492 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 9: Yes? And technically great question. 493 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 8: The strain of horror move is technically not closed. It 494 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 8: is due to all the threads that they are making 495 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 8: right now that Iran makes towards tinkers going through the 496 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 8: street and the amount of the cost and insurance that 497 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 8: the insurance companies like Lloyd's and London are putting on tankers. 498 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 8: Is why the strait is unofficially close right there. 499 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 2: And tell us, because I know I've asked you this before, 500 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: but remind folks, and you know with special under the 501 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 2: Trump administration, the United States has done a lot in 502 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 2: terms of becoming energy independent and getting our own oil 503 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 2: from America. But break it down for us, how much 504 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: is produced here and how much how much from an 505 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 2: amount standpoint, do we still need to get from a country, 506 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 2: say like Iran. 507 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 6: Yes, that's a great question. 508 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 8: We produce fourteen million barrels of oil a day, and 509 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 8: it's just under that. It's anywhere between thirteen point six 510 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 8: and thirteen point nine million barrels of oil a day 511 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 8: if the United States produces and I'm proud to say 512 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 8: that's the great state of Texas produces almost half of that. However, 513 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 8: we as a country, we are blessed, and we consume 514 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 8: twenty one million barrels of oil. 515 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 9: A day in this country. 516 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 8: And so we have to get to a place not 517 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 8: only to where we are producing that much, but that 518 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 8: we're refining that much. And right now, now were I'm 519 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 8: excited to announce that we have now the first refinery 520 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 8: that we will be built in fifty years right here 521 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 8: in Texas, and it will be refining sweet Texas crude 522 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 8: oil and of course oil from other parts of America, 523 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 8: and will not use any foreign oil to make his products. 524 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 2: So let me listen to this, and I know those 525 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: things don't go up in a day, right, But once 526 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 2: that one gets built a new drilling place you're talking 527 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: about here in America, here in Texas. How many more 528 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: barrels a day will that get us? And will that 529 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 2: get us to that twenty one million threshold where we 530 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: can be independent? 531 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 8: Well, to get there, we're gonna have to drill, baby drilled. 532 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 8: And this new refinery is gonna process about one hundred 533 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 8: and sixty thousand barrels of crude oil a day and 534 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 8: turn it into things like diesel, gasoline and jet fuel 535 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 8: and other products. So we are getting closer. Unfortunately, it's 536 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 8: not going to be the end all. 537 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 6: What we are. 538 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 8: Excited to see, though, is this conflict in Iran end 539 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 8: and probably get back down to that seventy five dollars 540 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 8: oil price. 541 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 6: What's this conflict is over? 542 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: And calm Artie, Well, I think the question too needs 543 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: to be asked. What about this oil that we are 544 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 1: extracting from the Venezuela, what's going on with that? 545 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 8: Yes, that's a great question, Eddie and Rocky and I 546 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 8: expect the same thing to happen in Iran once the 547 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 8: United States has control of Iranian oil. And let me 548 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 8: say that part again. Once I expect the United States 549 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 8: to have control of Iranian oil. What this president did 550 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 8: was set a deal with countries like India to sell 551 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 8: them that Venezuelan oil at the proper prices, just like 552 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 8: the rest of the world, and not at these black 553 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 8: market lower prices, which in turn did not affect the 554 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 8: oil production year in America. 555 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 9: Meaning it wasn't good. 556 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 8: It wasn't bad, meaning it wasn't bad because oil. 557 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 6: Prices didn't jump up. 558 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 9: It wasn't necessarily good because. 559 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 6: That means we didn't start producing more. 560 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 8: However, what also happened that nobody's talking about with. 561 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 9: Venezuela and oil, and what. 562 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 8: Will also happen with Iranian oil once it's under the 563 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 8: United States jurisdiction, is that two billion dollars a year again, that's. 564 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 9: Two billion with a B. 565 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 8: Two billion dollars a year will not be going towards 566 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 8: terrorism across the world to hurt individuals like US Americans. 567 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: Right let me ask you this though. Right now, oil 568 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: is you know whatever, hovering around one hundred bucks a barrel, 569 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: which isn't good for you, me, anybody. But also, I 570 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: mean if oil got down to fizzy bucks a barrel, 571 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: that probably wouldn't be good for you and your industry. 572 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: Where does oil need to be where it's like good 573 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 2: enough for Americans everyday people, but also for folks know 574 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 2: oil industry to make money and profit and do all that. 575 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: What's kind of that that sweet spot for you? 576 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 9: Yes, that sweet spot is eighty dollars oil. 577 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 6: You will hear a. 578 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 8: Lot of experts saying the sweet spot it's between seventy 579 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 8: five and eighty five dollars oil. 580 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 6: So we're going to meet in the middle and. 581 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 8: Say that sweet spot is eighty dollars oil. And as 582 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 8: we're speaking, we are definitely trading above one hundred right now. 583 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 8: And one thing Eddie and Rocky I would love for 584 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 8: your listeners to note and remember is this, during both 585 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 8: President Trump's administrations, we have been at one hundred dollars 586 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 8: oil for a total of seven days. During the Biden administration, 587 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 8: we are at one hundred dollars oil for a consecutive 588 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 8: three months. During the Obama administration, we are at one 589 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 8: hundred dollars oil for. 590 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 9: A consecutive three years. 591 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 8: I love this president. I do support them. However, he 592 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 8: wants these prices way lower than where they are, and 593 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 8: that's something I know that we are working with him. 594 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 9: Harold Ham and a lot. 595 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 8: Of other large independent producers to get to that sweet spot. 596 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 8: But he had definitely a drill, maybe drill keep the 597 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 8: prices low. Why because he knows that affects every American 598 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 8: out there. 599 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 9: I will say that. 600 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: All right with that, Ray, all we can do at 601 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: the stage of the game is wait and see. 602 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 5: Huh. 603 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 8: Yes, sir, I'm hoping that this conflict is over sooner 604 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 8: than later. But again, even if it were in today, 605 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 8: I do expect prices to stay high for the next 606 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 8: couple of weeks. 607 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,959 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this one. I wanted to ask 608 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: you this. What do you think the prospects are on 609 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 2: the suspension of the federal gas tax for a little bit. 610 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: Is that something that could actually happen or no. 611 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 6: I think it would be great if it happened. 612 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 8: It would show how high of a tax they actually 613 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 8: put on gas, and it would be something that would 614 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 8: benefit the entire country. 615 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 9: You look at what President Trump is. 616 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 8: Doing right now by getting oil back online in California 617 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 8: to help Californians out. 618 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 9: And obviously they didn't vote for him, but he's. 619 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 8: Working on things in this administration to bring down the 620 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 8: price of oil for every American. Just like every man 621 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 8: and woman in the oil and gas industry is producing 622 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 8: oil every day for every America. 623 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: All right, with that, Ray, we will let you go, buddy. 624 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: It is always our pleasure to talk to you. I 625 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: people want to find out more about what it is 626 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: you all do down there in Texas. 627 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 9: Yes, thank you for the opportunity. 628 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 8: I invite people to go to the crudetruth dot com 629 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 8: or pecos Operating dot com. 630 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 9: Please reach out and ask us any other questions. 631 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: Rachel Vino, always our pleasure, Son, Thank. 632 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 6: You, Thank you guys. 633 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: Thanks Ray uh arties always well. Obviously the man knows 634 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: what he's talking about. He runs an oil oil business. 635 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: I'd be fascinating to uh shadow him for a day 636 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: and just kind of see all the ins and outs 637 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: of that business. 638 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: You imagine working in the Texas oil business. Dude, that 639 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: has got to be down and deady. 640 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no doubt with that. 641 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: We check in with traffic and weather. What is going on? 642 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 9: All right? 643 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: Back with Eddie, Rocky and rock This this election in 644 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: France has already happened, but it was there was a 645 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: lot of attention on this thing in the past several months. 646 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard about it. It was just 647 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: the mayor of a small town in France. We we 648 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: uh there was it's a uh si. 649 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: That was pretty good. No, it wasn't French, I know. 650 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: But anyways, there was a mayor mayor's race there the 651 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: two candidates, Charles Hitler versus antone Renault Zelensky. Did you 652 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: hear about this? 653 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 5: No? 654 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 2: I did. 655 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now that was gonna slip by me. Hitler running 656 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: against Zelensky. Hitler was the incumbent if and Hitler said, 657 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: if people were talking about our town and our policies, 658 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: that would be one thing. But they're all they're only 659 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: interested in our names. 660 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: You think, I mean, dude, you gotta change your name? Well, like, 661 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 2: for many reasons. 662 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: Why it's a He says his father considered changing his 663 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: name after World War Two, but it would have been 664 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: too expensive. Now come on, man, can it catch you 665 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: a break? 666 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 9: Like? 667 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 2: Look, it's not like my name's you know, Johnson, and 668 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 2: I wanted to be it's Hitler. 669 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: Your name is Hitler. I'm named you with Satan Hitler 670 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: or something. But yeah, I would have I would have 671 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: done anything. I've just said, No, my name's not Hitler anymore. 672 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: It is Johnson. Or whatever the hell. But anyways, Hitler 673 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: did win the election. 674 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: In an upset of complete irony. Yeah, no, Hitler won 675 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 2: in an upset, Oh my god. 676 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: But uh yeah one. And then it's a small town. 677 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: There was only like twenty eight hundred people there. But 678 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: still you gotta, hey, Hitler, call yourself, Johnny vote for Johnny. 679 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Johnny H. Johnny H is back in town. 680 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 6: Lord. 681 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 2: And there's god, I gotta look it up now. I 682 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 2: know there's been I've seen sites of just funny names 683 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 2: and elections that that's uh, that's a whole another level there. 684 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: But well, I here, here's the thing. Maybe maybe they 685 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: used this dodge his his name was spelled with two teas. 686 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 2: They'll never I'll never say anything. 687 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: Now, how can you confuse it? His name was Adolf, 688 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: Mine is Charles Charlie if you will, and I spelled 689 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: my last name with two teas is Heatler. Heat Well, 690 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: it's French, so maybe it was. 691 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 2: You ever brend to France, by the way, that's right, Eric, 692 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 2: When did you go there? A couple of years ago? 693 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: We went, well, I went to Paris on my honeymoon, 694 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: hated it, and then we went to Nice a few 695 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: years back. 696 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 2: With our sons. See, we went to Paris and yeah, 697 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 2: just saw kind of a you know, touristy stuff. Yeah, yeah, 698 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 2: that's that's what we saw. In the Napoleon's tomb though, 699 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 2: that was cool. In the armory, the French armory. Did 700 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 2: you go to Jim Morrison's grave? Did not? Really? I know, 701 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 2: I don't know why I do, totally should, but it 702 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: was like one of those things where we had it. 703 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,479 Speaker 2: It was on our honeymoon. We had like a day 704 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 2: and we had to. 705 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: See the most Parisian thing happened to me. We're walking 706 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: along and it's a super hot day, it's middle of summer, 707 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: and we sit down on an outdoor cafe. This you know, 708 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: just your normal restaurant with tables outside. Sit down and 709 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm wearing shorts and a T shirt. Nothing, no, not 710 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: cut offs and you know, dirty converse or something. You 711 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: have a nice shorts and decent T shirt and nobody 712 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,879 Speaker 1: waited on me. I finally wait with the waiter and 713 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 1: he just didn't. He just went made some weirdo French 714 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: noise at me and pointed to my T shirt and 715 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: walked away. Well, you need like a suit to coffee there, right? 716 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: The beer well, okay, I was like, there were on 717 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,399 Speaker 1: they got they got standards. I guess with that where 718 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: they don't have my money. You go with that that 719 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: we check in with with the news news radio seven 720 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: hundred WLW. They all right back with Eddie and Rocky 721 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: and rock The beat goes on at the airports. But 722 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: is it getting better? Here to discuss with it is 723 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: our good friend from ABC, Alex Stone ABC, and the 724 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,760 Speaker 1: TSA guys are now getting paid. 725 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 2: What do we seeing Alex? 726 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 10: Yeah, so they're getting paid. It's not a perfect world yet, 727 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 10: which we can explain the big difference today now that 728 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 10: they are getting money. The TSA officers are coming back 729 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 10: to work. So yesterday close to forty percent of TSA 730 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 10: officers called out sick in Baltimore, thirty six percent in Houston, 731 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 10: where the wait times had been five hours long, and 732 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,439 Speaker 10: today at George Bush and or Continental the wait time 733 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 10: is five minutes. I mean that had a big difference 734 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 10: from five hours last week and into the weekend and 735 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 10: now five minutes today. Because the paychecks are coming through. 736 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 10: But there are still some airports that have some issues 737 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 10: here and there. But the TSA officers say, yeah, that 738 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 10: they are getting money. 739 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 9: Now. 740 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 10: Angela Granta is a TSA officer in Colorado. She got 741 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 10: a paycheck today and money went in this morning. She 742 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 10: confirms that with. 743 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 11: Us morning when a paycheck, she got that money. 744 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 10: Across the country, TSA officers are saying, yeah, that they 745 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 10: are getting back paid, but it only covers two of 746 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 10: three paychecks in which they they didn't get their full 747 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 10: or any pay because the first paycheck was mostly empty, 748 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 10: but because of where it was in the pay period, 749 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 10: they got just a tiny bit of there was some 750 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 10: that should have been in the pay period. They're not 751 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 10: getting any of that money. So they've gotten two of 752 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 10: the three paychecks, and it doesn't include other things that 753 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 10: they thought they were going to get, like overtime, where 754 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 10: many of them have been working a lot over time 755 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 10: to make up for those who are calling out sick. 756 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 10: She said that that was a surprise of them today. 757 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 10: They thought they were going to get. 758 00:38:50,920 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 11: Paid anything, and that's the thing. 759 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 10: At least we're getting something. But what nobody knows yet 760 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 10: is if the President's ordered to pay back pay, if 761 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 10: that's going to mean that from here on out they 762 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 10: get paid as per usual moving forward, or if this 763 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,479 Speaker 10: was a one time lump sum backpay paycheck where then 764 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 10: once there is a funding building, they'll figure out that 765 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 10: first paycheck and then holiday pay in overtime and then 766 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 10: moving forward from there or if they're going to get 767 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 10: paid per normal moving forward. And then the TSA offswers 768 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 10: they don't know. Their union doesn't know yet. Pascal Concarence 769 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 10: say he's a TSA offswer in Phoenix. He's been calling 770 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 10: out sick. He says he's going to return tomorrow, but 771 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 10: he says not everybody is because they still don't know 772 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 10: about all their. 773 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 3: Money because we haven't received a paycheck. 774 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 5: They s but that's. 775 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 9: And guys. 776 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 10: He says that the hundreds who quit during all of 777 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 10: this because they could go make in some cases similar 778 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 10: better money working at fast food or the Amazon warehouse, 779 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 10: that they're gone for good. And you know, we've heard 780 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 10: from some of them that they turned in, you know, 781 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 10: kind of symbolically turned in their badge, they lost their 782 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 10: security clearance and they're done. They're not coming back. 783 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 11: And he said a lot of them certainty, and we 784 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 11: have lost a lot of unfortunately. 785 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 10: And they say the good ones just kind of walked away. 786 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 10: But their union wants Congress to come back from spring 787 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 10: recess to fix this partial government shut down so that 788 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 10: they know that they're going to get paid moving forward 789 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 10: and everybody who didn't quit will then come back, uh 790 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 10: and and they then they know they're going to get 791 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 10: all of their their back pay, but there is no 792 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 10: movement within Congress for that to occur. And these officers 793 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 10: say that they're still having a hard time paying the 794 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 10: bills and the the interest that had piled up and 795 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 10: the overdue notices and all of that over the last 796 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 10: month month and a half, and so it's not over yet. 797 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 10: But they they are thanking the President today for getting 798 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 10: some money, but they want to know where the rest 799 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 10: of the money is and then and what's going. 800 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 2: To go on moving forward again. And the pay they're 801 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 2: getting is from an executive order, Like where is that 802 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 2: money coming from? Like what pot of money is that 803 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 2: is being tapped into to pay them? And how deep 804 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 2: is it? 805 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,240 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a good question because the way we've described 806 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 10: to us is essentially that that money is being moved 807 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 10: around to make it happen. I mean, look, the money 808 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 10: is there, whether there is a funding bill or not. 809 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,760 Speaker 10: It's not like poof all of a sudden, money appears 810 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 10: because the funding bill has gone through that there is 811 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,280 Speaker 10: money there, but they got to to move it around 812 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 10: to be able to legally do it. And the Office 813 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 10: of Management and Budget was tasked with you know, kind 814 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 10: of like within a company, as you move money around 815 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,879 Speaker 10: that it almost seems like funny money at a time 816 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 10: that you figure out what comes from over here and 817 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 10: it comes from over there. And the question that seems 818 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 10: somewhat legitimate, and there's no good answer from the White House. 819 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 10: The TSA officers are asking, is if this could have 820 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 10: been done at this point, why wasn't it done sooner? 821 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 10: Why did they have to wait three paychecks for this 822 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 10: to go on? And we don't know, but it did 823 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 10: get to the point now where the President has done this, 824 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 10: but they don't know moving forward if they're going to 825 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 10: get paid if this continues, the pay coming it seems 826 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 10: like it may not, and so this may have been 827 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 10: a one time thing. And at this point, Congress isn't 828 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 10: going to be back for at least two more weeks 829 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,439 Speaker 10: to get this done unless somebody gets them to come back, 830 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 10: and so it's going to be a while where they 831 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 10: may go with no pay moving forward again. 832 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: And we're talking to Alex Stone from ABC and Alex. 833 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: One of the things I got an email from one 834 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: of our listeners earlier talking about He said, he just 835 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: flew the other night and he said, the problem isn't 836 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: the TSA, it's all the people getting to the airport 837 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: way earlier than there's when you know they're scheduled because 838 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 1: they're afraid of all the delay times they're reading about 839 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: and getting hyped on in the media. So the people 840 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 1: maybe they don't have like a flight until two, they're 841 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: getting there at eight. They're just saying out to make 842 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: sure they get on their plane airport. 843 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 10: Yeah, it depends on the airport that you're going to 844 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 10: that you know. I mean whether you get there at 845 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 10: five hours before your flight or two hours before your flight. 846 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,839 Speaker 10: If you go to security, you're going to get through, 847 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 10: and then you just got more people waiting on the 848 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 10: back end. 849 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 9: Yeah. 850 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,320 Speaker 10: But but but not it wouldn't be a security issue 851 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 10: in the sense that that they would have to wait somewhere, 852 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 10: but they wouldn't be waiting in the security line. But 853 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 10: at like Phoenix, at Atlanta, at Houston, this was a 854 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 10: problem that they had to shut down all of the 855 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 10: many of the security checkpoints where they went from like 856 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 10: six down to two, and if you didn't get there 857 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 10: five hours before and at those specific airports, you weren't 858 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 10: going to get through on time. So it depended. I mean, 859 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 10: I live in la and Lax had no problem. The 860 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,720 Speaker 10: southern California airports had no problem. But the big issue 861 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 10: was it's at the airports like Denver, Houston, Atlanta where 862 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 10: you go and there's like one main area of checkpoints 863 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 10: and then you disperse on trams from there, versus other 864 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 10: airports where there are numerous checkpoints you can spread everybody 865 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 10: out in one area doesn't get really backed up. So 866 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 10: a lot of it is in the design of the 867 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 10: airport when they have less staffing. But no, I mean, 868 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 10: if you got there two hours before in Houston last week, 869 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,240 Speaker 10: or in Atlanta, or at times in Denver, you weren't 870 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 10: going to get on your flight. But it really depended. 871 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,760 Speaker 10: There were a lot of airports that had no problem 872 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 10: whatsoever based on staffing, an airport layout, and a number 873 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 10: of other issues that that may or may not have 874 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 10: been going on at some airports. So some were bad 875 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 10: and some were no problem at all. 876 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 2: I asked this for everybody out there, but mainly me 877 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 2: because I'm traveling Wednesday. Would you suggest do people need 878 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 2: to get their extra early or would they should they 879 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 2: go to the airport in the given time that they 880 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 2: would have say last year at this time. 881 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 10: Well, I mean, I think again, it depends on one airport. 882 00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 10: You're going to LA I would get there at at 883 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 10: normal time because I've been there covering it and there 884 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 10: haven't been any lines. If I were going through Phoenix 885 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 10: or Houston, I would really see where they are in 886 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,359 Speaker 10: the next couple of days when you've got to fly. 887 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 10: If it's like today and Houston's down to five or 888 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 10: ten minutes, well then you're good to go. If it, 889 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 10: for some reason, we're to go back up to last week, 890 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 10: you would be up the creek without a paddle if 891 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 10: you tried to get on a flight and you got 892 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 10: there two hours before. We heard from people last week 893 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 10: that said they got there at three point thirty in 894 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 10: the afternoon for their eight thirty flight and they didn't 895 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 10: make it. They didn't get through a security in time. 896 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 10: So you know, it just it depends on the airport. 897 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 10: But it also now seems like we're probably going to 898 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 10: be okay. I mean, that guy that you heard from 899 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 10: a moment ago the officer of Pasquello Contreras. He's going 900 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 10: back tomorrow. So little by little, as they're getting pay 901 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 10: they're coming back and they're being ordered back that if 902 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,919 Speaker 10: they don't, they're going to be penalized in a wall 903 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 10: status and other things. So it seems like more and 904 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 10: more of what we're seeing today, if things getting back 905 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 10: to normal, is probably where it's going to go this week. 906 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 10: But again it depends on the airport and the TSA 907 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 10: staff at that airport and what they're desired to come 908 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 10: in with the unknown on paychecks. You know, there's a 909 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 10: snowball effect in this at some airports where your colleagues 910 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 10: are out and you're like, well, I'm not going to 911 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,760 Speaker 10: pick up his slack. I'm not coming in either. And 912 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 10: the snowball effect has been a big issue at some 913 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 10: of these airports and at others they don't add that 914 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,720 Speaker 10: because people aren't calling out sick and they're all working 915 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 10: through this not getting paid. So it depends on the airport, 916 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 10: the staff at that airport, and but you're probably going 917 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 10: to be fine at this point now the money's gone through. 918 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 10: It seems like they're coming. 919 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 2: Back all right. 920 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,800 Speaker 1: With that, Alex, we will let you go, buddy, always 921 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: good stuff, Thank you, you got it. Thanks our good friend, 922 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: uh Alex Stone. And with that we check in with 923 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 1: traffic and weather, what's going on? 924 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 2: And Rockaway. 925 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: I set this guy a text today and said, hey, Sheldon, 926 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 1: it's been five days into the season. We have a 927 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 1: budget yet I think it's about time. 928 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 2: That valid time. And of course the look the Red's 929 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 2: all off to a great start to win the first 930 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 2: series two out of three against the Socks. But but 931 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 2: I think the first thing we got to talk about 932 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 2: is this new abs uh you know, pitch count or 933 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 2: strike zone system they have going on. 934 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,319 Speaker 1: Let's talk to him about it. It's Mark Sheldon. He 935 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 1: is the senior reporter, the b reporter for MLB dot com. Mark, 936 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 1: always our pleasure, buddy. 937 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 2: What's up? 938 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 5: Hey, not too much to say, you know, Eddie, you 939 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 5: never bug me. 940 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: Well that's tell that to my wife. Yeah, so so Mark, 941 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: You know, Rocky and I have been talking about this 942 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,839 Speaker 1: the whole a bit. What is going on with this thing? 943 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 1: What exactly is it? I'm I'm confused, man. 944 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 5: Well, it's it's called automatic balls and strikes and essentially, 945 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 5: I know the flang Ford is robot hops and they 946 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 5: didn't do that completely. They don't let the machines, UH 947 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 5: do all the balls and strikes. But when I when 948 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,879 Speaker 5: I pitch looks questionable or it looks like it could 949 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 5: either way, and the player, either the catcher, the pitcher 950 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 5: or the hitter don't like the call, they could tap 951 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 5: their helmet or tap their hat and and ask for 952 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 5: a review. You get two of them. As long as 953 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 5: you're correct, you get to keep two of them. But 954 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 5: if you if you mess up and you get one wrong, 955 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 5: you lose a challenge. And like the Red Stuff the 956 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 5: other day, they lost both their challenges in the third 957 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,879 Speaker 5: by the third inning, and the Reds kept theirs because 958 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 5: they were correct on all of theirs. So it's it's 959 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 5: just one of those things. It's like tennis. But when 960 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,839 Speaker 5: there's a lion call and you're not sure if it 961 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 5: was a fault or a you know, the pall was in. 962 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 5: You go to this thing and it's almost immediate. It's 963 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 5: it takes less than thirty seconds, and that's and it's 964 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 5: you know, so far in the first weekend, it's proven 965 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 5: to be wildly entertaining. Fans, especially on Saturday, really got 966 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 5: into it. I think it'll it'll start dying down. I 967 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 5: think right now it's the newness of it that's got 968 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 5: the buzz and people talking about it. But I think 969 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 5: eventually it'll kind of even out, and I don't think 970 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 5: you'll see it quite as proficient or prolific as it is, 971 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 5: but it is definitely a part of the strategy. Now. 972 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,359 Speaker 5: You know, players have to be mindful. They only have 973 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 5: two and you don't want to blow them both in 974 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 5: the first thing, so you got to use them strategically. 975 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 2: So explain maybe a little bit more of the of 976 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 2: the parameters of it, you know, like l Ajla Cruise 977 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 2: is what six'? 978 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:18,399 Speaker 9: FIVE. 979 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 2: Tj friedel is five? Eight how does it? Electronically does 980 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 2: it you? Know and also how does it keep you, 981 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 2: from you, know kind of slunching over and bending your. 982 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 2: Knees how does it? CHANGE i don't know what the 983 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 2: parameters of it. 984 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 5: Are, well they went ahead before the season and measured 985 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 5: every player, digitally, individually digitally the. 986 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: Zone we're talking To Mark, Sheldon, mark that's WHAT i 987 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: THOUGHT i. HEARD i was, like they did what? 988 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:42,879 Speaker 9: Now? 989 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 5: Wow, yeah that's why you've noticed if you look at 990 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 5: some players height on the cards or on the on the, 991 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,879 Speaker 5: website some of them have shrunk. Somehow, yeah the guy 992 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 5: that the guy that used to be six too is 993 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 5: suddenly six feet and you know things like, That so 994 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 5: there's there are Some it does eliminate the so called 995 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 5: basketball thing where a guy suddenly is six' ten but 996 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 5: he's really. Six seven so it just sort of makes. 997 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:09,399 Speaker 9: It all. 998 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,240 Speaker 5: You know the strike zone is tailored to, each player 999 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,360 Speaker 5: so in, a way for someone like Li Ed la 1000 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 5: cruz who seem to get hosed a lot on those 1001 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 5: low strikes that were closer to his knees or, his 1002 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 5: ankles now it's it's a more truer strike zone for. 1003 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:27,320 Speaker 2: Each, PLAYER interesting i will admit. It does it doesn't 1004 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 2: take a very. Long time there is some redundancy, to it, 1005 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 2: of course where, it's, like well if the machine already 1006 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 2: knows what's balling, a strike why do we have the 1007 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 2: umpire there kind. OF thing. I don't do you ever 1008 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 2: see umpires? GOING away i know that's. A question that's 1009 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 2: a debate that goes on all. The time what do, You, THINK. 1010 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 5: Well i think you still need to. HAVE umpires i 1011 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 5: like the human. ELEMENT personally i think it's okay to 1012 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 5: have a check here. AND there i mean some of, these, 1013 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 5: changes though are. REALLY close, i mean you know you 1014 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,760 Speaker 5: see them like zero zero. Point one, it's different and that's. 1015 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,400 Speaker 5: Really tough but it also shows a lot of the 1016 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,280 Speaker 5: statistics right now show it's been about fifty four percent, 1017 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,720 Speaker 5: of overturns so it's. About half, you know they're getting. 1018 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 5: At half the players are getting. A, Half right catchers 1019 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 5: are definitely better knowing their strike zone and the hitters are, 1020 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 5: The pitchers so catchers have been really the best at making. 1021 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 5: These Challenges h so, you know hitters are, obviously biased 1022 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 5: and pitchers have the problem of when they're pitching that 1023 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,279 Speaker 5: their their head doesn't really get focused back on the 1024 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 5: strike zone until, after that well after, the delivery so 1025 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 5: they and of course pitchers. Are biased they think everything 1026 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 5: they throws. The strike so catchers seem to be the 1027 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 5: best at. Doing this, and again you really got to 1028 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,359 Speaker 5: pick your spots because you don't want to blow all 1029 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 5: your challenges early and have it not available to you 1030 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 5: in the. 1031 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 1: Ninth Inning mark SHELDON from Mlb dot com is, our 1032 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: Guest and mark THE guy i should have written. It 1033 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 1: down but who was the ump the other day that 1034 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 1: ABSOLUTELY got i mean just. 1035 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,319 Speaker 2: Book roast he had a. 1036 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:09,240 Speaker 5: Tough day six six of eight, were overturned and, uh 1037 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 5: yeah that was a. Tough one and that's and this 1038 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 5: is what's gonna be like for a while for. Some 1039 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 5: umpires it's definitely gonna have to make, them better but 1040 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 5: it's also going to have to make the, players better 1041 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 5: because like The red socks got a couple wrong and 1042 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 5: that cost them their challenges early in. The game So 1043 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 5: the reds were six, For six so you. Got it 1044 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 5: you got to get. IT right i think it's going 1045 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,399 Speaker 5: to really focus on who has the best strike zone 1046 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 5: awareness if you're a hitter and obviously, a catcher and 1047 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 5: if you're, an umpire you get graded anyway whether you 1048 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 5: have the abs. Or not so this is just gonna 1049 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 5: make it, you know they want to get it, right 1050 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 5: too and so this is how it's going to. 1051 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 2: Get Right mark sulden is, our Guests, and mark as 1052 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 2: we said at, the top there is certainly a great 1053 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,880 Speaker 2: start For the reds winning two out. Of three suarez 1054 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,359 Speaker 2: with a, Bomb YESTERDAY so, i mean, you know it's it's, 1055 00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 2: you know we're talking a couple, of games BUT that 1056 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 2: i was an Investment the reds made and worked, out 1057 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 2: well helped win that Game salth stewart and. The opener 1058 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 2: it looks good in terms of a young. Young guy 1059 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,399 Speaker 2: so things looking pretty good for the team. 1060 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 5: Right now it's looking. Pretty good obviously is a long way, 1061 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 5: to go but what they they wanted to get, better 1062 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 5: offensively and You got suarez back to do exactly what 1063 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,319 Speaker 5: he was brought in. To do he wasn't able to 1064 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,759 Speaker 5: do it On. Opening day he had a couple of 1065 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 5: chances in some big moments it, didn't happen but he 1066 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 5: he completely changed the Game on. Sunday yesterday and then 1067 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,400 Speaker 5: you Look, at stewart he got at, seven hundred he 1068 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 5: reached case ten times in. Three, games, he's incidentally if 1069 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,400 Speaker 5: you haven't, heard yet he's JUST Named nl player Of. 1070 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,400 Speaker 5: The week And Then. Matt McLean you know what he 1071 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 5: did in. Spring training, you know you, could, say oh 1072 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 5: it's just, spring training but he's kind of carrying it 1073 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,360 Speaker 5: into the season now and he's looked really good in 1074 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 5: the first. Three games he's getting on base, a lot 1075 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 5: he's hitting the. Ball well so having those guys in 1076 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 5: in the, you know the top to the middle of 1077 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 5: the order, hitting well that's exactly what they were kind 1078 00:53:59,200 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 5: of lacking. 1079 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,359 Speaker 2: Last, year Well, South stewart rod brought up As. 1080 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 1: SOUTH stewart, i, mean hey he's living up to the 1081 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,800 Speaker 1: hype so far FOR the i mean he's even said 1082 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 1: right THAT if i Don't get rookie Of, THE year i, 1083 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 1: you know it won't be for lack of trying kind. 1084 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 5: Of, THING yeah, i mean he's definitely, a candidate and, 1085 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,959 Speaker 5: you know going into the season and he's not gonna 1086 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,239 Speaker 5: hit seven hundred, all season but if he continues to 1087 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 5: take good approaches they talk about as a. Mature approach 1088 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 5: he doesn't strike out. A lot i don't think He 1089 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,960 Speaker 5: strikes he, Struck, out yes. This season he, makes contact 1090 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 5: he hits. All fields that's exactly what you want in, 1091 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,839 Speaker 5: any hitter let alone a guy that's, twenty, two no 1092 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 5: no doubt. 1093 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 2: About it and Any updates Mark On nick lodolo and. The, 1094 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,320 Speaker 2: blister yes. 1095 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,439 Speaker 5: He threw a bullpen Session. On sunday it. Went well 1096 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 5: he's gonna throw another bullpen Session, tomorrow tuesday and then 1097 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 5: if that, goes well he will leave and go to 1098 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 5: a rehab assignment At Single a Daytona. On thursday it 1099 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 5: was going to Be At, louisville wednesday but rain in. 1100 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 5: The forecast they didn't want it to have him go 1101 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 5: down there and not be able. To pitch so he'll Go, 1102 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,760 Speaker 5: pitch thursday and then if that, goes well he'll rejoin 1103 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,279 Speaker 5: the team for the Series in miami and get one 1104 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 5: of the one of the starts at one of. Those 1105 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,479 Speaker 5: games all. 1106 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 1: Right, With That, mark sheldon great to have, you, Back man. 1107 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,319 Speaker 5: Awesome, stuff hey and thank you very much for. HAVING 1108 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:20,360 Speaker 5: me i look forward to talking. 1109 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:20,319 Speaker 7: To you. 1110 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 1: No Doubt, Thanks Mark. Mark sheldon red zubeat GUY from mlb. 1111 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 1: Dot com by, the way he should, be careful he 1112 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 1: asked for he wants to come on. 1113 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,239 Speaker 2: The show are you? 1114 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 1: Kidding me but twice? A? Week dude what are your 1115 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 1: nuts with some Of these? Reds guys so these Our 1116 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 1: own reds guys lose? My number yeah, you good name, 1117 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:44,719 Speaker 1: a couple but. 1118 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 2: We won't but. We won't we have, our favorites but one. 1119 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 2: Of them but. 1120 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,319 Speaker 1: See you you got out of town before all the 1121 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 1: news broke Before on friday about all the postgame activities 1122 00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:02,280 Speaker 1: the other night the oh, yeah yeah, oh, no yeah. 1123 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 1: That's right you had. Left TOWN yeah i had. Left town, 1124 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,760 Speaker 1: YEAH no i voiced my opinion on, that. 1125 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 2: Deal, right well it was uh how's? It good, come 1126 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 2: on how's the mayor not in town For the cincinnati's 1127 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,840 Speaker 2: biggest day of the? 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