Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday Midday
Speaker 1: kind of a cold and brisk Saturday morning.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, just one.
Speaker 1: You think Trump derangement syndrome can't get any worse?
Speaker 2: It does.
Speaker 1: We found out this week that Democrats want military men
Speaker 1: and women to ignore orders that they, the Democrats, think
Speaker 1: are illegal. And the six Democrats that we're talking about,
Speaker 1: they put out a statement on video. Are you gonna
Speaker 1: hear that in just a second. Of the six Democrats
Speaker 1: are Senator Elise Slotkin, she's the ringleader on this, from Michigan,
Speaker 1: Senator Mark Kelly, who he's a Democrat, but I think
Speaker 1: you ought to know better. He's from Arizona, Representative Chris
Speaker 1: Deluzio from Pennsylvania, Representative Maggie Goodlander from New Hampshire, Chrissy
Speaker 1: Hulahan from Pennsylvania, and Representative Jason Crowe from Colorado. They
Speaker 1: put this video together and put it out on Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Could you play that please?
Speaker 3: Liam?
Speaker 4: I'm Senator Alissa Soockin, Senator Mark Kelly, Representative Chris Stluzio,
Speaker 4: Congressman Representative Chrissy.
Speaker 2: Hulahan, Congressman Jason Crowe. I was a captain in the
Speaker 2: United States.
Speaker 4: Navy, former CIA officer, former Navy, former paratrooper and Army ranger,
Speaker 4: former intelligence officer.
Speaker 2: Former Air Force.
Speaker 4: We want to speak directly to members of the military
Speaker 4: and the intelligence community.
Speaker 2: Who take risks each day keep Americans safe.
Speaker 4: We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now.
Speaker 5: Americans trust their military, with that trust is at risk.
Speaker 2: This administration is pitting our uniform, military.
Speaker 4: And intelligence community professionals.
Speaker 2: Against American citizens.
Speaker 6: Like us.
Speaker 2: You all swore an oath to protect and defend this constitution.
Speaker 4: Right now, the threats to our constitution aren't just coming
Speaker 4: from right here at home.
Speaker 7: Our laws are clear.
Speaker 2: You can refuse illegal orders.
Speaker 4: You can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders.
Speaker 2: No one has to carry out orders that violate the
Speaker 2: law or our constitution.
Speaker 4: We know this is hard and that it's a difficult
Speaker 4: time to be a public servant.
Speaker 2: But whether you're serving in the CIA, the Army, or
Speaker 2: Navy the Air Force.
Speaker 7: Your vigilance is critical.
Speaker 2: And know that we have your back because now more than.
Speaker 8: Ever, the American people need you.
Speaker 4: We need you to stand up for our laws, our constitution,
Speaker 4: and who we are as Americans.
Speaker 2: Don't give up. Don't give up, don't give up, don't
Speaker 2: give up the ship. You know, I tell you what
Speaker 2: I know. I say this all the time, but I
Speaker 2: mean it.
Speaker 1: I never, in my wildest dreams would have thought I
Speaker 1: would hear United States senators and congress members telling service
Speaker 1: members to ignore orders. Where in the hell is that
Speaker 1: coming from? And you just wonder what's next. They are
Speaker 1: encouraging these members of the military to ignore orders from
Speaker 1: their superiors, the main one being and we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about the oath in a second year the president
Speaker 1: of the United States. This has what it has come
Speaker 1: to with these people, the Democrats. And you talk about
Speaker 1: a horrible precedent. You know, they set the precedent with
Speaker 1: respect to lawfare.
Speaker 2: They invented it, they started it. And you know, I
Speaker 2: have to say.
Speaker 1: Republicans are reacting, I think as appropriately as they should,
Speaker 1: but they started it. Now they come up with this
Speaker 1: Senator Slotken, she's the one that the ringleader on this thing.
Speaker 1: She says, quote the threats to our constitution are coming
Speaker 1: right from right here at home close quote.
Speaker 2: You know what that makes me sick.
Speaker 1: We are all so tired of the whole threat to
Speaker 1: democracy thing. I mean, give it a rest, find something
Speaker 1: else to say. Let's just break this down and look
Speaker 1: at it by the numbers. One ICE is in these
Speaker 1: cities to enforce immigration laws that Congress passed. It is illegal.
Speaker 1: I don't care what anybody says. It's just blatantly obvious.
Speaker 1: It is illegal to trespass into our country by ignoring
Speaker 1: our laws. Three ICE agents are sworn to enforce the
Speaker 1: law as written by Congress. They don't like the immigration laws,
Speaker 1: then change them. You know, Biden, lets this is forth. Biden,
Speaker 1: lets untold millions of people illegal aliens into this country.
Speaker 1: Trump tries to clean it up, and now you get
Speaker 1: this from the Democrats.
Speaker 2: Ignore order.
Speaker 1: Five Democrats are urging service members to basically commit treason
Speaker 1: versus the United States, and Trump came out really strong
Speaker 1: on that yesterday. Some of the Republican reactions. Senator Eric
Speaker 1: Schmidt from Missouri said, I'm quoting him. Elected Democrats just
Speaker 1: released a video encouraging members of the military to commit
Speaker 1: treason and defy orders from the President of the United States.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what they're telling these young men and
Speaker 1: women to do. You know, I just it's still it's
Speaker 1: just so hard to fathom what the hell they're thinking.
Speaker 1: Then you got Senator Schmidt, Eric Schmidt from Missouri Republican.
Speaker 1: He goes on to say that at the end of it,
Speaker 1: this is a quote. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: they're meaning the Democrats, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: they're mad at the They're mad the America. Can people
Speaker 1: chose Trump and now they're calling on the military and
Speaker 1: intelligence community to interfere. It just sounds a little subversive
Speaker 1: to me. Some in the administration and the media. This
Speaker 1: is from Senator Hulahan, one of the Democrats. Some of
Speaker 1: the administration and media are actively working to distort that
Speaker 1: message into something The message that they're putting out something
Speaker 1: dark and divisive. You think talent service members to ignore
Speaker 1: orders is not dark or divisive. Igazand to say, let
Speaker 1: me be absolutely clear, there is nothing more patriotic, nothing
Speaker 1: more stabilizing, and nothing more true to the rule of
Speaker 1: law than reminding our military of their constitutional obligations and
Speaker 1: reassuring them that if they are ever given an unlawful order,
Speaker 1: they do not have to carry it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's real. It really makes me.
Speaker 1: Happy that we're having Democrats tell service members to ignore
Speaker 1: the law, and that's what they're doing. That's what they're doing,
Speaker 1: and what the Democrats are saying that's not dark or divisive.
Speaker 1: These people are delusional, you know. Yeah, he says doing
Speaker 1: this is something dark and divisive that what the Republicans
Speaker 1: are doing. You know, let me ask a question. Isn't
Speaker 1: treason dark or divisive? Isn't sedition dark or divisive? Again,
Speaker 1: you have to look at the horrible precedent that this sets.
Speaker 1: It's a horrible precedent. You know, what are we to
Speaker 1: do when one of the two major political parties in
Speaker 1: the United States tells service members to take the law
Speaker 1: into their own hand and disobey their superior officers. This
Speaker 1: cannot go unchallenged. Something must be done about this. There
Speaker 1: must be accountability. You know, maybe I missed it, but
Speaker 1: I didn't hear anything in that video about exactly which
Speaker 1: orders the Democrats believed to be illegal. They had plenty
Speaker 1: of time to put it in there if they wanted to,
Speaker 1: but they didn't. Senator Lindsey Graham, he spent three decades
Speaker 1: in the army jag. He was livid when he found
Speaker 1: out about this. He's all over it. He also wants
Speaker 1: to know what so called illegal orders the Democrats are
Speaker 1: talking about, and he wrote a letter to these six
Speaker 1: idiots telling them just that he wants to know. Here's
Speaker 1: what he says. This is lindsay, I cannot find a
Speaker 1: single example of an ill legal order during this administration.
Speaker 1: But as a member of Congress, I believe you owe
Speaker 1: it to the country to be specific as to which
Speaker 1: orders you believe are unlawful in this regard, could you
Speaker 1: please provide clarity on what orders issued by President Trump
Speaker 1: or those in his chain of command you consider illegal.
Speaker 2: I think that letter.
Speaker 1: Went out Wednesday and we haven't heard anything, but it's
Speaker 1: not an unreasonable request.
Speaker 2: There's a guy named Douglas R. Lindsay.
Speaker 1: He wrote an op ed in the publication military dot Com,
Speaker 1: and if you're a service member, retired service member, reservist,
Speaker 1: you know what Military dot com is. He's the deputy
Speaker 1: editor and he's also retired USAF Lieutenant colonel. Colonel Lindsey
Speaker 1: thinks the video is misguided.
Speaker 2: I think he's being kind there.
Speaker 1: Here's what the colonel wrote in Military dot Com about this,
Speaker 1: and I'm quoting him. Service members are not blank slates
Speaker 1: waiting to be told what is right. They do not
Speaker 1: drift through their careers, unaware of the law or uncertain
Speaker 1: of the boundaries of their authority. So when a video
Speaker 1: implies that service members need public reminders to uphold the law,
Speaker 1: it misses the reality of the situation, that is that
Speaker 1: service members must practice lawful decision making on a daily basis,
Speaker 1: not because someone tells them to, but because it is
Speaker 1: who they are expected to be.
Speaker 2: I think that's a long way of saying, we don't
Speaker 2: need this.
Speaker 1: We don't need it, Democrats, you don't know what in
Speaker 1: the hell you're talking about.
Speaker 2: We don't need this.
Speaker 1: And let's just for a second here, let's talk about
Speaker 1: the oath of enlistment that every service member takes.
Speaker 2: When they enlist.
Speaker 1: The Oath of Enlistment again, sworn by everyone who joins
Speaker 1: the military states. They and I am quoting here, they quote,
Speaker 1: will obey the orders of the President of the United States.
Speaker 1: Let me just read it again. Will obey the orders
Speaker 1: of the President of the United States.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: Will obey the orders of the President of the United
Speaker 1: States and the orders of the officers appointed over me.
Speaker 1: They're taking the oath according to the regulations and the
Speaker 1: Uniform Code of Military Justice, which is the law for
Speaker 1: every branch of the service, and we're gonna be talking
Speaker 1: to Steve Gooden. I know you know Steve from his
Speaker 1: many appearances on the show. He spent a long time
Speaker 1: in the Army JAG as well, and we're going to ask.
Speaker 2: Him about that.
Speaker 1: Let me add that the UCMJA Uniform Code of Military
Speaker 1: Justice also states that orders can orders do carry Listen
Speaker 1: to this, the presumption of legality. Again, orders do carry
Speaker 1: the presumption of legality. That's in the law, that's in
Speaker 1: the UCMJ. Let me just pose this scenario just for
Speaker 1: a minute here, Okay, what if Colonel Paul Tibbets and
Speaker 1: you may or may not know who he is, he
Speaker 1: was the pilot of the Anola Gay, the B twenty
Speaker 1: nine that dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima. He was
Speaker 1: the pilot and he had a crew of course, that
Speaker 1: dropped the A bomb on Hiroshima. What if he woke
Speaker 1: up on the morning of August sixth, nineteen forty five
Speaker 1: and said, you know what, my crew and I thought
Speaker 1: about it overnight and we've come to the conclusion that
Speaker 1: the order to drop the A bomb is illegal and
Speaker 1: we're not going to carry it out. I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: that's an extreme example, but that's what we're talking talking
Speaker 1: about here.
Speaker 2: I mean, you just can't have that in the military.
Speaker 1: Again, as I said, the Uniform Code of Military Justice
Speaker 1: states that quote, orders carry the presumption of legality, orders
Speaker 1: carry the presumption of legality. One more time, orders carry
Speaker 1: the presumption of legality. So, just to sum it up,
Speaker 1: the top democrats in this country are telling service members
Speaker 1: not to follow the orders of the President of the
Speaker 1: United States.
Speaker 2: Their commander in chief.
Speaker 1: That's what we've come to in the year twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five in this country. And it's sad and it makes
Speaker 1: me angry. There has to be consequences for this. Let
Speaker 1: me just close by saying this, I really do wonder
Speaker 1: what is next with these people. You just don't know
Speaker 1: what's coming next. I think this is going to blow
Speaker 1: up in their face. Trump seems gung ho to do
Speaker 1: something about it. You just can't have it anyway, That's
Speaker 1: what I think. I want to know what you think.
Speaker 1: Seven four nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred. The big
Speaker 1: one are the numbers. Mike Allen, Saturday midday, all right,
Speaker 1: I get to the callers, and we got a good
Speaker 1: number of them this morning. Just one quick announcement. I
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Speaker 1: Good luck to the Bombers as they proceed hopefully to
Speaker 1: the state championship and win that. You know, my deal is,
Speaker 1: if it can't be Elder, I wanted to be a
Speaker 1: GCL team. So again, congratulations to the Saint X Bombers
Speaker 1: for a hell of a game last night. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get back to business here. Let's talk to Joey. Hey, Joey,
Speaker 1: good morning, Good morning, Mike, how are you today?
Speaker 9: Good?
Speaker 7: Good?
Speaker 2: What you got for me?
Speaker 10: Well, a couple of things I'd like to touch on briefly.
Speaker 10: One with this military stuff. It's just completely.
Speaker 3: Unacceptable and something.
Speaker 10: Needs to be done about these things that just continue
Speaker 10: to go on. It really does. There's got to be
Speaker 10: consequences for your actions. And ultimately, all they're trying to
Speaker 10: do is what they do with everything else. All they're
Speaker 10: trying to do is divide the military and create chaos.
Speaker 10: And they will. They will, because what they're gonna do
Speaker 10: is they'll scout and recruit a couple poster boys or
Speaker 10: girls in the military. They'll come forward, they'll be on
Speaker 10: the news.
Speaker 7: They'll make a stink out of it.
Speaker 10: And they're trying to can't create chaos in the military.
Speaker 10: All they would love more than anything is some big
Speaker 10: bass with protests outside of it. All the other idiots
Speaker 10: showing up, all the other paid morons showing up. Throw
Speaker 10: Antiitha in there, create a team. That's what they want.
Speaker 10: And they should all be really asham in themselves. And
Speaker 10: I hope they're damned by God, and I'm sure he's
Speaker 10: watching and has had enough of this crap. That is
Speaker 10: the ultimate goal. That's what they want to do. And
Speaker 10: they've divided our families.
Speaker 7: They have.
Speaker 10: They have divided our families, they divided our schools. They
Speaker 10: brain morse and indoctrinated people, and now they're going after
Speaker 10: the military and love nothing more to say, Oh look
Speaker 10: what Trump did again. That's that's all they want. It's disgusting.
Speaker 11: And the other thing.
Speaker 10: I'd like to touch on real quick is I think
Speaker 10: mister Trump made a mistake, man, Marjorie Tareley gree calling
Speaker 10: her out and cut his mouth off, frankly, And I'm
Speaker 10: on his side. Connor a trader, man, that is one
Speaker 10: strong out of an ordinary woman. She resigned last night.
Speaker 2: I heard that.
Speaker 12: Yeah, so he.
Speaker 10: Needs to somehow amend this. That's one strong woman. If
Speaker 10: anybody's watching any interviews with her with moron interviewers in
Speaker 10: hallways or in any of the hearings or anything that
Speaker 10: goes on, that's one bad woman. That's really intelligent, very smart,
Speaker 10: and she has been an outstanding, pitfull staunch supporter of
Speaker 10: Donald Trump. And you know she's gonna throw knockout punches.
Speaker 10: She's not going to walk away. And I think he
Speaker 10: needs to do something about that. He jumped the gun
Speaker 10: on her, and I'm always on his side, don't get
Speaker 10: me wrong, But man, he shouldn't have called her a
Speaker 10: trader and called her out. She resigned, and that's just
Speaker 10: one strong woman. He made a mistake there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't call someone a trader unless you're talking about
Speaker 1: these six congress people.
Speaker 2: I think you know in many ways that they are.
Speaker 1: But I don't know what her deal is she seems
Speaker 1: to be a you know what stir but it's he's
Speaker 1: and you know, unlike a liberal. I and you, by
Speaker 1: what you just said, are not afraid to criticize people
Speaker 1: on our team. And the top guy on our team
Speaker 1: that would be President Trump. He sometimes just takes it
Speaker 1: too far. It's like he can't help himself.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was really sadden to see that we don't need
Speaker 1: dissension in our ranks.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, you know, And she went on the
Speaker 10: View and she didn't really do anything. I think she's trustworthy.
Speaker 10: I think he's jumped the gun. You know, the women
Speaker 10: in the View, she could destroy them for crying out
Speaker 10: loud yep. I just think he I think he's jumped
Speaker 10: the gun.
Speaker 12: He should have.
Speaker 10: Backed up a little bit, because, man, I'm telling you,
Speaker 10: I really like her, even under these circumstances. That is
Speaker 10: one strong, bad woman. There's a lot of guys or
Speaker 10: anybody in there that can't hold a stick to her.
Speaker 10: And if anybody out there has listened to don't believe me,
Speaker 10: just search her being stopped in the hallways of Congress
Speaker 10: talking to these idiots. She destroys them. And she has
Speaker 10: been an outstanding support over his I think he's made
Speaker 10: a mistake there and he needs to somehow. I don't
Speaker 10: know what he can do. But man, you know she resigned,
Speaker 10: so that speaks well, yeah.
Speaker 2: It does, it does. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you filling us in on that, Joey, Yes,
Speaker 1: really do thank you for the call. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: get that that kind of came out of the blue.
Speaker 1: I didn't really pay a whole lot of attention to her.
Speaker 14: Now.
Speaker 1: I do know that Trump was or maybe did find
Speaker 1: a Republican to run in the primary against her, So
Speaker 1: who knows. Let them the Democrats have their dissension and
Speaker 1: their confusion and all of their nonsense. We don't need it.
Speaker 1: We're getting a job done. Hey, let's talk to Ray
Speaker 1: on west side. He says, I'm missing one important fact.
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 14: Ray?
Speaker 2: How are you doing? And thanks for calling.
Speaker 7: I haven't checked.
Speaker 15: How many of these people have any reserve active status
Speaker 15: right now?
Speaker 2: What people?
Speaker 15: The people of the sixth Oh, turnaround and.
Speaker 14: You know what people?
Speaker 2: Good question. I don't know.
Speaker 13: Now.
Speaker 1: I have always respected Senator Mark Kelly's prior service. I
Speaker 1: think he went pretty high up the rest of them,
Speaker 1: I don't know. There was one of them that they say, well,
Speaker 1: you know, she had intelligence experience.
Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to that question.
Speaker 1: One thing I do know is Lindsey Graham's got about
Speaker 1: thirty years in the JAG and he is on this
Speaker 1: like white on Rice.
Speaker 15: Well, Kelly is an astronaut.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 15: He's not on any reserve status. The point that I'm
Speaker 15: getting at is they're not subject to the UCMJ.
Speaker 1: Yes, they are in ten years in the reserves.
Speaker 2: Ray they are. I mean, and I'll ask Steve Gooden
Speaker 2: even if you're out about that.
Speaker 8: That's why I was going to say, it's a question
Speaker 8: for Steve, right, and I'll ask him.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong about that,
Speaker 1: but we were. We were always under the assumption that
Speaker 1: it applied to us. And you know what, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter what they are. I mean, they're telling active duty soldiers,
Speaker 1: sailors and marines to if they don't like the law,
Speaker 1: then they're not going to obey it, ignore the order
Speaker 1: if they think it's wrong.
Speaker 2: And we can't have that in the military.
Speaker 15: No, no, no, you absolutely cannot have it. But I
Speaker 15: only bring it up in the fact that if they're
Speaker 15: out because most people don't understand the difference between the
Speaker 15: UCMJ versus regular civilian. True, and you do, okay, and
Speaker 15: Steve certainly does. But if they're already out, they do
Speaker 15: not carry any active you know, in active reserve status.
Speaker 15: They're allowed to run their mouths even if they're stupid. Well,
Speaker 15: and they're definitely stupid.
Speaker 7: I mean.
Speaker 15: The closest thing is that they're endorsing fragging, which obviously, yeah,
Speaker 15: you know is and no, no, but but most people
Speaker 15: don't even know what fragging is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not good, especially now if you're exactly and
Speaker 1: some of that I understand happened in Vietnam, which which
Speaker 1: is a shame.
Speaker 15: But very much so.
Speaker 1: I think what they're talking about, or what I'm talking
Speaker 1: about with these six Democrats is not any kind of
Speaker 1: military action against them, some type of political I don't
Speaker 1: want to say, payback political consequences to what they're doing.
Speaker 1: My god, I mean, that's kind of the military is
Speaker 1: the holiest of holies, and you don't play games with them.
Speaker 15: And you know, and even though like I said, you
Speaker 15: respect that, you understand the concept of no, you don't
Speaker 15: run your mouth like this. They're pushing their luck just
Speaker 15: in terms of pr level.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 15: And by the way, before I forget the guy that
Speaker 15: was on before, when he's talking about the lady from Georgia. Yeah,
Speaker 15: Trump really should suck up to her.
Speaker 2: I don't get it, man. Why was he so mad.
Speaker 15: At her because of the fact that she was pushing
Speaker 15: and put him into a corner on the Epstein stuff?
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, you know what. I'm so sick of
Speaker 1: hearing about Epstein.
Speaker 15: Well, everybody is, and he was too, because he looked
Speaker 15: at it as a big, time consuming, non productive thing.
Speaker 15: But he should not get rid of when he's got
Speaker 15: a low margins already and he's got the New York
Speaker 15: lady's going to leave. He's putting the Speaker of the
Speaker 15: House in a really bad position.
Speaker 1: Did hear that this morning that the speaker didn't even
Speaker 1: know what was coming?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 15: What's the Do you know what the governor of Georgia
Speaker 15: is Republican or Democrat?
Speaker 1: I'm I believe he's Republican. I just and Trump got
Speaker 1: into it with him at some point too.
Speaker 15: I don't remember that was that was a long time ago.
Speaker 15: My point is it was he's really got a bank
Speaker 15: on him. If he's going to replace her, yep. Trust's
Speaker 15: best best bat would be to turn around and suck
Speaker 15: up to this lady in a big way.
Speaker 2: Well, that ain't in his DNA, but I think you're
Speaker 2: probably right.
Speaker 15: About it is a no, no, it's not in his
Speaker 15: DNA unless it's worthy of making money, which is effectively
Speaker 15: making a deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, in the DNA.
Speaker 1: We shall see. I appreciate your point of view, Ray,
Speaker 1: and thank you for calling.
Speaker 15: But no, check on check on the active duties as
Speaker 15: well as these six.
Speaker 2: I will, I will, I will ask, I'll make a note.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask Steve Gooden Damn.
Speaker 15: Well, yeah, Steve's gonna know best.
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, thanks Ray, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will ask Steve that I spent ten years
Speaker 1: at the fighting one thirty fifth JAG Detachment. I think
Speaker 1: Steve spent a little bit more time than I did,
Speaker 1: and he came after me, so he's more current on stuff. Hey,
Speaker 1: let's talk to Ransom in Columbus. Hey, Ransom, what do
Speaker 1: you think about the video?
Speaker 11: Well, I've always been doing something about it. I've already
Speaker 11: called two two two two four thirty one twenty one.
Speaker 11: I've called Speaker Johnson's house. I've well, his office, I've
Speaker 11: called chip Boy, and I've also called speaker I mean
Speaker 11: a majority leader soon in a Senate. You and I
Speaker 11: both know that politically, these guys are never going to
Speaker 11: go to jail for being sis or anything else. But
Speaker 11: here's something we can do. Since you and I and
Speaker 11: the rest of your listeners are the employers of all
Speaker 11: these politicians and they're asking and they also have military situations,
Speaker 11: so they're probably double dipping. They're probably getting pension on
Speaker 11: the military side and also on the political side.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 11: My recommendation to Speaker Johnson and also the President and
Speaker 11: also soon is that we suspend permanently their pensions for
Speaker 11: seditious acts. Then you're setting that you're setting an example
Speaker 11: to all the other politicians who are looking forward at
Speaker 11: gravy train when they get out of politics, are out
Speaker 11: of the military, and they'll watch their mouth the next
Speaker 11: time they spout off about trying to be seditious to
Speaker 11: this president, because this doesn't just affect this president. This
Speaker 11: can affect a democratic president down the road too.
Speaker 2: No question, no question of the pension situation.
Speaker 1: That's pretty drastic, but this does call for drastic response.
Speaker 11: I think, yeah, Well, if you if you could just
Speaker 11: push that all day. Ask Steve about that too. If
Speaker 11: we can make that happen, you have a very large audience.
Speaker 11: And if we flood the switchboard there in d C
Speaker 11: and say hey, speaker Johnson, speaker, thun uh, it's it's come.
Speaker 11: The blows come to blow. And we know that money talks.
Speaker 11: And they may not serve any time criminally, but civilly,
Speaker 11: they have wounded our country by the seditious Act. They
Speaker 11: don't deserve to have the money that the American people
Speaker 11: pay for their pensions, either military or politically. And I
Speaker 11: say take it away from them, and then watch the
Speaker 11: change of all the politicians and all the military people
Speaker 11: if they know they're going to lose their because this
Speaker 11: is this. Let's face it, Mike, it's make America great.
Speaker 11: Let's make it a great country again. And sometimes you
Speaker 11: got to get your big boy pants on, and like
Speaker 11: you said, you got to, you gotta.
Speaker 7: I'm back.
Speaker 11: I appreciate you, man, God bless you. And hope that thousands,
Speaker 11: if not tens of thousands of Ohioans will call the
Speaker 11: switchboard and force this through. And if they just get
Speaker 11: one one of these six Democrats, they take the pensions away. Uh,
Speaker 11: big changes are coming to Washington.
Speaker 1: I hear you. Okay, Ramsey, thanks for the call. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's an idea. It has to be some
Speaker 1: kind there has to be some kind of sanction, and
Speaker 1: it has to be serious. This is George Bush used
Speaker 1: to say, this cannot stand. It just can't stand. We
Speaker 1: can't have this, you know, the Biden administration. As far
Speaker 1: as the military goes in again, I would remind people
Speaker 1: that enlistments are through the roof.
Speaker 3: Gee.
Speaker 1: It's kind of it's kind of funny how it happened
Speaker 1: pretty much coincided with Biden leaving office and Trump coming in.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Biden was all concerned about DEI in the military,
Speaker 1: had one of his generals saying, well, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: going to learn about white rage.
Speaker 2: I think it's important Trump.
Speaker 1: Threw that crapout and through Secretary of Defense, Secretary of
Speaker 1: War heg Seth is getting away from that they already
Speaker 1: have and focusing the mission on what the military is
Speaker 1: supposed to do, which is kill people and break stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, whether you like it or not, that's what
Speaker 1: it is. Hey, let's talk to Bobby J. Hey, Bobby J.
Speaker 14: Good morning, Good morning to you, my friend, appreciate everything
Speaker 14: you do as always. Well, I've got a couple of
Speaker 14: things I'd like to mention. Yeah, you know, as a
Speaker 14: follow up.
Speaker 1: Well, let me let me ask you first though, what
Speaker 1: do you think about this whole situation with the Democrats
Speaker 1: telling the soldiers to violate their orders.
Speaker 7: Well, they're anarchist number one, yep.
Speaker 14: And we all know what subversive and seditious acts are,
Speaker 14: so there you go with that. Yeah, but they're part
Speaker 14: of the splinter groups that are soft coup, soft coop
Speaker 14: data And we've talked about culture revolutions.
Speaker 7: And everything that we're in the middle of.
Speaker 14: But it all has to do with the media also
Speaker 14: that promote these people when they put that videos out
Speaker 14: and everything. Look who picked them up right off the bat.
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, affiliates picked him up. And you're doing the
Speaker 14: right thing, Mike, And I tell you what they come
Speaker 14: after people like you that tell it the way it is.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, that's what have about it, guys,
Speaker 2: If that's what you want to.
Speaker 14: Do, well, I'll give you an example. That's why Rachel
Speaker 14: Maddow advertised on your segments for m This NBC.
Speaker 16: You're doing the right.
Speaker 1: Thing well, and you know what, I don't have any
Speaker 1: doubt about that, and I appreciate your vote of confidence,
Speaker 1: Bobby Jay, I really do. I just think, you know,
Speaker 1: Lawfair's one thing was bad enough, and they started it
Speaker 1: and they're getting paid back. Just the way it is
Speaker 1: in politics. This ramps it up even further than that.
Speaker 1: The milk terry is doing very well under President Trump's leadership.
Speaker 1: They don't need a bunch of liberal Democrats telling soldiers,
Speaker 1: sailors and marines that hey, if they don't think the
Speaker 1: order's right, they're not going to obey it. And I
Speaker 1: will say again, and I'm gonna hit this with Steve
Speaker 1: Gooden too. Orders are presumed to be legal. I mean
Speaker 1: that's in the UCMJ. So I guess we'll have to
Speaker 1: see what happens. But it's we can't have this.
Speaker 12: Well.
Speaker 14: We appreciate everything you do, my friend. And it goes
Speaker 14: all the way back to these splinter groups. You shoot
Speaker 14: one hundred arrows, two of three is going to stick
Speaker 14: YEP and a lot of things they don't want to
Speaker 14: talk about. It's no different than going ahead and pointing
Speaker 14: out who the DNC pipe bomber was and all the
Speaker 14: people that are affiliated with that from the Secret Service
Speaker 14: and the Capitol Police and everything else. You know, they
Speaker 14: only got so many people in the Justice Department. They
Speaker 14: don't have enough to fulfill the obligations that we need.
Speaker 1: Good point, Bobby Jay has always appreciates your call, really do,
Speaker 1: and thank you for your kind words.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 1: All right, well, listen, we are out of time for
Speaker 1: this segment. When we get back from the news, We're
Speaker 1: going to talk to Christopher Smithman. Obviously a'all know Christopher.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately he did not it was not successful in getting
Speaker 1: back on council. But I sure hope that young man
Speaker 1: isn't done and he is going to continue. I asked him,
Speaker 1: he's going to continue giving us a political commentary. His
Speaker 1: uh political instincts and knowledge are incredibly on point, and
Speaker 1: uh he's always got something to say.
Speaker 2: We'll talk to Christopher when we get back.
Speaker 1: Just wanted to tell you too, have another open segment
Speaker 1: ten thirty two eleven, So if you want to call
Speaker 1: uh while Christopher's talking five one three, two four one
Speaker 1: two of two, three seven four nine, seven thousand, one
Speaker 1: eight hundred The big one are the numbers. Mike Allen
Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred wl W Mike Allen with our
Speaker 1: two of Saturday Midday Switching gears here a little bit.
Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman, a good friend of this show, good friend
Speaker 1: of mine, did not make it back to city council.
Speaker 1: I just breaks my heart, and I and many others
Speaker 1: thought he had a heck of a good chance. I mean,
Speaker 1: this just demonstrates, and the numbers demonstrate that I don't
Speaker 1: know that there will be another non Democrat ever elected
Speaker 1: to mayor or city council.
Speaker 2: And you got to hand it to the Democrats.
Speaker 1: I think they got their people out a heck of
Speaker 1: a lot more than we did. But at any rate,
Speaker 1: here to talk about that and many other things is
Speaker 1: our good friend, Christopher Smithman.
Speaker 2: Christopher, thanks so much for calling in this morning.
Speaker 13: Oh thanks, thanks for having me on. Always glad to
Speaker 13: hear your voice. And I'm glad that you view me
Speaker 13: as a friend and a friend of your show.
Speaker 1: Absolutely and I'm so glad that you're cool with staying
Speaker 1: on as a commentator because you bring a really good perspective.
Speaker 1: But let me ask you first. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you had prior military or not, it doesn't matter, but
Speaker 1: what do you think about these six Democrats telling our
Speaker 1: young men and women in the service that they don't
Speaker 1: have to obey orders if they don't want to, because
Speaker 1: in essence, that's what they're saying.
Speaker 2: What do you think about.
Speaker 13: That, Well, my father served in the Army. One of
Speaker 13: my older brothers served in the Air Force. Because my
Speaker 13: mother only has had one brother, I only have four
Speaker 13: first cousins, this is important. And he just retired as
Speaker 13: a colonel in the Army. And my own seven my
Speaker 13: own son is serving in the Air Force. So my
Speaker 13: answer is to you very clearly, is that the men
Speaker 13: and women who did that video, really we're undermining the
Speaker 13: United States military and CIA yea, and undermining our country,
Speaker 13: undermining our country. And I hope that if there's anybody
Speaker 13: out there listening who's serving, that they ignore that it
Speaker 13: would put them in a perilous situation to ignore a
Speaker 13: direct order from from a superior in the military or CIA. Exactly,
Speaker 13: it was almost as if they were trying to plant
Speaker 13: the seeds of not not just you can ignore orders,
Speaker 13: but a seed that you might we might decide that
Speaker 13: we're going to take over the government. Are we're going
Speaker 13: to take over here? You just don't know how far
Speaker 13: they were going with it, but you and I know
Speaker 13: that you cannot have a military or CIA and and
Speaker 13: have people believing that they can ignore orders.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what the military is based on, you know,
Speaker 1: officers or or lower ranking or higher ranking people giving
Speaker 1: orders to lower ranking people. You know, It's been that
Speaker 1: way since the Roman Centurions, I believe, and you have
Speaker 1: to have that for the military to function properly. And
Speaker 1: I made the point Christopher, when Biden went out and
Speaker 1: Trump came in, enlistments in every branch of the service just.
Speaker 2: Went through the roof.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, it's I just would love to
Speaker 1: know what the average soldier thinks about this, but many
Speaker 1: of them will not speak out. It'll be retired people,
Speaker 1: retired service members that will but a bad, bad precedent
Speaker 1: for our country.
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you to.
Speaker 13: Go ahead and let me add let me add another
Speaker 13: piece to that. Shres why so many Democrats has said
Speaker 13: to me that the Democratic Party left me this sense
Speaker 13: that they don't even recognize the Democratic Party. So you know,
Speaker 13: this is a game, and these steps in this direction,
Speaker 13: this hard left mentality, meaning meaning having a strong military,
Speaker 13: having a strong CIA, having a strong border, having a
Speaker 13: strong local police division office, having a strong firefighter, having
Speaker 13: a strong prosecutor. All these things should be nonpartisan. I mean,
Speaker 13: if you just want to have an orderly society and
Speaker 13: want to be safe, all the things that I said,
Speaker 13: the first people listening to you should be nodding their
Speaker 13: heads going. All of that makes sense to me. So
Speaker 13: why has the Democratic Party gone so left, Mike Allen
Speaker 13: that they would say, hey, we're going to some congressional
Speaker 13: members can put out a video articulating to the military.
Speaker 13: They can now ignore orders. It's so far left that
Speaker 13: it's almost unbelievable.
Speaker 1: As Ronald Reagan used to say, it's so far left
Speaker 1: it left the country. You just can't have this. There
Speaker 1: has to be consequences of this. There has to be
Speaker 1: people have to be held accountable, you know, And I
Speaker 1: really do sit here. I know, I say it all
Speaker 1: the time, but I said her and think, well, what's next?
Speaker 1: Because I didn't see this coming. I don't think anybody
Speaker 1: else did. It's just it borders on anarchy. And I
Speaker 1: guess we'll see what they have in store next.
Speaker 2: But hey, can I ask you about the gun?
Speaker 13: And Mike, let me just give a first second on
Speaker 13: a piece of it.
Speaker 2: Take a much time.
Speaker 13: As the other piece that frustrates me is when President
Speaker 13: Donald Trump puts his foot in his mouth, So how
Speaker 13: he responds to this as the president matters to me
Speaker 13: and so he he just seems to lack discipline sometimes. Yeah,
Speaker 13: meaning if there's any commentary around killing them or hanging them,
Speaker 13: I'm not saying there is. I don't know what he
Speaker 13: meant by his words, but I guarantee you that the
Speaker 13: people that are around him, they get very frustrated because
Speaker 13: of some of the language he uses. They are people
Speaker 13: that really like his public policy, but they dislike his
Speaker 13: language and how he gets things done. And so you know,
Speaker 13: as I was out there campaigning and talking to people,
Speaker 13: people who were Republicans, right, who are work articulating this
Speaker 13: to me? And so somebody, if a caller, if one
Speaker 13: of you're listening, audience, you're outors listening to me right now?
Speaker 13: You know how the president conducts himself in the world
Speaker 13: and domestically matter, right, And so we want class. And
Speaker 13: so what I would ask is those people who support
Speaker 13: to the hard President Donald Trump, that be willing to
Speaker 13: call him out when it's necessary, like, don't be so
Speaker 13: partisan that we can talk about the left, but we
Speaker 13: also have to spend time talking about the right. And
Speaker 13: so there are things that President Donald Trump says verbally
Speaker 13: that concern independence like me and wish that he would
Speaker 13: find better ways in his words of conducting himself on
Speaker 13: the national stage.
Speaker 1: Very well put Christopher and unlike liberals, I'm not afraid
Speaker 1: and you're not afraid to criticize members of our party
Speaker 1: and the member who's the most important, the president.
Speaker 2: And I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I don't know why sometimes he says the things that
Speaker 1: he does. I had a very good friend of the show.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to read it now. I'm going to
Speaker 1: read it during the ten thirty slot. Text me what
Speaker 1: he had to say yesterday about Marjorie Taylor Green and
Speaker 1: I don't know what the deal with those two are,
Speaker 1: but it's just it's over the line.
Speaker 2: We don't need it.
Speaker 1: He did that thing yesterday with Mondami, which you know,
Speaker 1: I don't agree with the damn thing he says Mondamie,
Speaker 1: and I know the President does either, But I mean,
Speaker 1: I have to admit it was kind of nice.
Speaker 2: It was in the Oval office.
Speaker 1: Trump spoke, they spoke, they were collegial, and I think
Speaker 1: people want and need to see that.
Speaker 13: Yes, yes, it's so. It's so important in politics because
Speaker 13: you know, once the election ends. You know this very well,
Speaker 13: Mike Allan, that you have to begin to govern, yep.
Speaker 13: And when you're governing, you're governing differently than when you're
Speaker 13: running for office. And there's some politicians who do not
Speaker 13: understand the difference between those two things. So whatever's going
Speaker 13: on with the congresswoman, right, she deserved to say that
Speaker 13: she wanted the Epstein files released. By the way, I
Speaker 13: want the f Stein files released. It's also fair to
Speaker 13: say that President Biden could have released during his four
Speaker 13: year term. And the Democrats who are making a big
Speaker 13: deal about this and acting as if this is the
Speaker 13: first knowledge, not that the previous administration failed to do
Speaker 13: what they're asking this administrati stration to do and have
Speaker 13: done now, right, is also a farce. The reality of
Speaker 13: it is people in the middle want to see. Do
Speaker 13: we have pedophiles among us? Right? Are these people flying
Speaker 13: out to an island having sex with twelve year olds
Speaker 13: and thirteen year olds? And I would say it's probably
Speaker 13: the biggest scandal next to I won't say, but next
Speaker 13: to some other things that I've seen. Let's just say
Speaker 13: that this is a big scandal and we need to
Speaker 13: understand what happened to see Congressman Crockett go on the
Speaker 13: floor of Congress and imply that a former member or
Speaker 13: somebody in the cabinet of the President received donations from Epstein,
Speaker 13: And the reality of it was it was doctor Epstein,
Speaker 13: a totally different Epstein, just like there are other Alan's
Speaker 13: out there, there are other Smithmen's out there, and she
Speaker 13: didn't do the due diligence to understand smearing that doctor's name,
Speaker 13: who was a physician, spearing the person who she was
Speaker 13: talking about, smearing his name, which I don't want to
Speaker 13: reiterate and keep it going, but the reality of it is,
Speaker 13: we have these people in Congress who are so far
Speaker 13: left and even when they're found to be wrong, meaning
Speaker 13: she now knows that what she said in the will,
Speaker 13: meaning on the floor of Congress, which is supposed to
Speaker 13: be a fake red place, that what she articulated was
Speaker 13: absolutely wrong, and still, as you and I are talking,
Speaker 13: she's unwilling to go and apologize. This kind of civility
Speaker 13: is missing in our elected officials, and it's up to
Speaker 13: the people to demand it. The problem is is that
Speaker 13: there are people out here who are adopting this extreme behavior.
Speaker 13: They'll walk up to me while I'm eating lunch and
Speaker 13: try to cust me out. You know, They'll walk up
Speaker 13: to me and I'm with my daughter and try to
Speaker 13: talk crazy to me in front of my child. People
Speaker 13: have to have basic boundaries, Mike Allen, and if we don't,
Speaker 13: we're going to move this country in a place that we.
Speaker 2: Don't want it, no question about it.
Speaker 1: There has to be some return to so ability, somehow,
Speaker 1: some way. And you know, I'm probably gonna get some
Speaker 1: grief from people about saying that, about that visit at
Speaker 1: the White House with Mondamie and Trump, But again, he's
Speaker 1: a democratic socialist, He's a socialist, a borderline communist. I
Speaker 1: don't think anything that he says is going to work.
Speaker 1: But just the fact that he's in the White House
Speaker 1: talking to President Trump and they were collegial with each other,
Speaker 1: that's a good thing. And boy, at some point, I
Speaker 1: hope we returned to it. But I really did want
Speaker 1: to ask you on the government shutdown. I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you what you feel the aftermath of that is
Speaker 1: because I'll tell you, Christopher, I looked before the show
Speaker 1: last week for some poll numbers as to who is
Speaker 1: getting the blame for this thing, because Republicans, not by
Speaker 1: a lot, but by a decent margin, were being blamed
Speaker 1: more than Democrats. I haven't had a chance to look recently,
Speaker 1: but just wanted to get your thoughts on that.
Speaker 13: Well, let me say that it is it would be
Speaker 13: a lie to say that.
Speaker 12: The Republicans shut the government down. The people who shut the.
Speaker 13: Government down were the Democrats, and there might have been
Speaker 13: fifteen votes that gave them many opportunities to open up
Speaker 13: the government. There were a handful of three or four
Speaker 13: Democrats who constantly voted in favor.
Speaker 12: One was.
Speaker 13: The senator out of Pennsylvania. But the point is that
Speaker 13: this misinformation, meaning the Democrats continue to repeat over and
Speaker 13: over and over and over again every other day on
Speaker 13: press conference that the Republicans that were the ones that
Speaker 13: were shutting the government down, and there are people out
Speaker 13: there that just believe it because CNN and THENBC they
Speaker 13: continue to repeat the same nonsense. The reality of it
Speaker 13: is is that the Democrats decided that they wanted to
Speaker 13: impact local election and statewide elections. The governor's run in
Speaker 13: Virginia and the local elections they hold. They held a
Speaker 13: King's March. All of these things were strategies to wake
Speaker 13: up what they would call their base and get them
Speaker 13: to participate in the political process, and they successfully did that.
Speaker 13: And so there was a lot of Democrats who walked
Speaker 13: in said I don't care what your political affiliation. I
Speaker 13: don't care who you are, I don't care what you
Speaker 13: stand for, and if you're not a Democrat, I'm not
Speaker 13: voting for you. And Conservatives and Republicans in Cincinnati who
Speaker 13: didn't show up in those might be listening to this
Speaker 13: have to understand that they are a part of that.
Speaker 13: You're part of the problem. Anybody who doesn't show up
Speaker 13: and participate but has an opinion about the election is
Speaker 13: a part of the problem. We have to understand that
Speaker 13: there's an election in twenty twenty six. Locally, we've got
Speaker 13: Winkler on the ballot over a probate court. We've got
Speaker 13: Leah dencin Locker, she's running for common Sees. We've got
Speaker 13: a governor's race. I do not want to live in
Speaker 13: a county or a city or a state where the
Speaker 13: one party is running everything. That is bad for everybody.
Speaker 13: And so I can tell you right now I'm supporting Winkler.
Speaker 13: I'm supporting Leah dinkin Locker and I'm supporting the veck Rabaswami.
Speaker 13: I want diversity like anything else. I want diversity of views,
Speaker 13: I want diversity of gender, I want diversity of ideas.
Speaker 13: These things make our state and our county and our Congress.
Speaker 13: It makes things stronger, not weaker. I'm really concerned that
Speaker 13: Hamilton County, that the city of Cincinnati has moved so
Speaker 13: far left that what we're going to end up having
Speaker 13: are higher taxes, bigger street cars, bigger development, less infrastructure,
Speaker 13: less police, less fire. Not good for the citizens of
Speaker 13: Cincinnati or our county.
Speaker 12: I'm really concerned about the direction of our county right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am too. I mean, you know, Republicans ruled
Speaker 1: the roofs for a long time, but there were Democrats
Speaker 1: that cracked that barrier and Democrat judges. Not a lot
Speaker 1: some Democrat elected officials. Dusty Rhodes comes to mind, but
Speaker 1: there are other Dusty, of course, was a conservative Democrat.
Speaker 1: But man, I mean, we're getting skunked on this thing.
Speaker 1: Got about a minute and a half left. I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you about it. I did not see exactly
Speaker 1: what the percentage of voters in the city of Cincinnati
Speaker 1: came out and vote, but it was awful, and the
Speaker 1: D's got their people out, but Republicans and Independents didn't
Speaker 1: seem to show up.
Speaker 12: Yeah, well I lost.
Speaker 13: Part of putting your name on the ballot is you
Speaker 13: take the risk of losing. And this is a winner
Speaker 13: take off system, you know. Bottom line, I appreciate all
Speaker 13: the voters who cast votes and voted for me, and
Speaker 13: I appreciate those who didn't vote for me. I want
Speaker 13: people to participate in the process, and I think at
Speaker 13: the end of the day, democracy, whether it's an informed
Speaker 13: voter or not, democracy rules. That's what concerns me about
Speaker 13: where we started our conversation, when you have Congressional members
Speaker 13: who are trying to indicate to our CIA and our
Speaker 13: military not to listen to direct order. So I respect
Speaker 13: the outcome of the election. I'll be back in some
Speaker 13: kind of way. Politically, I'm not out. I'm an appointee
Speaker 13: of the governor right now to the casino board. There
Speaker 13: are lots of things that I'll weigh in on. You'll
Speaker 13: hear about them coming up pretty soon. So whether my
Speaker 13: name is on the ballot, whether we're working on petition drives.
Speaker 13: Whether I'm working for a gubernatorial candidate or working for
Speaker 13: like a Winkler or a dinkin Locker to win county wide,
Speaker 13: you will see me participating, you know, in the political process.
Speaker 13: And you know, my concern is that elections have consequences.
Speaker 13: And so remember that I lost the election. The election
Speaker 13: is over, and people like Keating lost the election good
Speaker 13: and lost the election. But at the end the day,
Speaker 13: you know, for the voters, if your taxes go higher,
Speaker 13: your infrastructure stays the same, violence stays the same. We
Speaker 13: didn't improve anything, right, and so we've got to get better.
Speaker 15: Right.
Speaker 13: The elections have consequences, and I'm praying for our city
Speaker 13: and I want the best for the county.
Speaker 2: All right, Afraid, I sure appreciate you call it in and.
Speaker 13: Appreciate you so much. I appreciate you, Mike Allen. Happy
Speaker 13: Thanksgiving to.
Speaker 12: You and your family.
Speaker 2: You too, buddy, Thank you.
Speaker 13: Okay, take care, okay, all right.
Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman, he's not going anywhere. He's going to be
Speaker 1: with us periodically quite a bit. Actually, I just like
Speaker 1: the perspective that he brings.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I hope he's not done with elective politics. But I mean,
Speaker 1: you got to be smart about it. If if it's
Speaker 1: a near impossibility, then I guess you just got to
Speaker 1: live with that. Hopefully things will change with that respect
Speaker 1: and Amont County in the city. But I ain't holding
Speaker 1: my breath. Hey, we got to take a break. But
Speaker 1: when we get back, open lines seven four nine, seven thousand, one,
Speaker 1: eight hundred. The big one are the numbers. Mike Allen
Speaker 1: Saturday Midday. Hey, we're back, Mike Allen, Saturday Midday. Gonna
Speaker 1: get to the phones in just a moment here. But
Speaker 1: there has been a lot of talk this morning about
Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green and her decision announcement yesterday. I guess
Speaker 1: that she is resigning from Congress. I think it took
Speaker 1: a lot of people by surprise. She had been feuding
Speaker 1: with President Trump, and Trump well, he came out pretty
Speaker 1: strong when that notice hit. But anyway, he did put
Speaker 1: something on truth social A lot of people been asking
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: So just bear with me a second. I'm going to
Speaker 2: read it.
Speaker 1: This is what President Trump said about the whole situation
Speaker 1: with her, and I'm quoting Marjorie Trader Brown. Because of
Speaker 1: plummeting poll numbers and not wanting to face a primary
Speaker 1: check Vallenger with a strong Trump endorsement where she would
Speaker 1: have no chance of winning, has decided to call it quits.
Speaker 1: Her relationship with the worst Republican Congressman in decades, Tom
Speaker 1: Massey of Kentucky, also known as Ran Paul Jr. Because
Speaker 1: he votes against the Republican Party and really good legislation
Speaker 1: did not help her for some reason, primarily that I
Speaker 1: refused to return her never ending barrage of bad calls.
Speaker 1: Marjorie went bad. Nevertheless, I will always appreciate Marjorie and
Speaker 1: I thank her for her service to our countries.
Speaker 2: Signed President Donald DJT.
Speaker 7: Donald J.
Speaker 2: Trump.
Speaker 1: I'm very lucky on the show to have really great
Speaker 1: listeners who helped me out when I need it, and
Speaker 1: I appreciate that listener sending that to me.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just wish we didn't have to fight among ourselves
Speaker 1: and we didn't have that hot of rhetoric. But it
Speaker 1: is what it is. I don't know what the reason is. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's just one less Republican I guess. I guess she's
Speaker 1: from a Republican stronghold district. I don't know, but we
Speaker 1: could do without all that stuff. But again it is
Speaker 1: what it is as promised. Back to the phones. Let's
Speaker 1: talk to Dennis in Annapolis.
Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, Doc, Good morning, Mike.
Speaker 7: What you got.
Speaker 8: I want to make a couple of quick points here
Speaker 8: about this whole whole thing about these uh, these congress
Speaker 8: people making the comments about not following orders. And I've
Speaker 8: been long as a physician, long convinced that most of
Speaker 8: these Democrats have significant mental derangement. I made that point before,
Speaker 8: and call again, and uh, I think that Trump the
Speaker 8: agent syndrome should be included in this, in the psyche,
Speaker 8: in this the ds Yes, you got it, Agnoso Statistical
Speaker 8: Manual Mental Disorders, the d s M five, the fifth edition,
Speaker 8: which you know is a standardized It just has standardized
Speaker 8: criteria for diagnosis and classific classification.
Speaker 2: Lawyer time.
Speaker 12: Yeah right right. So so.
Speaker 8: I don't know if you caught it in a Well
Speaker 8: Street journal, but it's kind of made my point. Jonathan Albert,
Speaker 8: who's a psychotherapist in New York City wrote a big
Speaker 8: op ed about Uh. The title of it is the
Speaker 8: Trump Derangement Syndrome, an actual uh.
Speaker 12: You know disorder.
Speaker 2: I did see that, and.
Speaker 12: He did see it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 12: A great piece. Yeah, yeah, he quote him, he.
Speaker 8: Says he he first he thought it was like a
Speaker 8: Trump drained the syndrome is like an ideological reaction. But
Speaker 8: he he came to be convinced that it's, to quote him,
Speaker 8: an obsessive, which, uh, a political figure becomes the focal
Speaker 8: point for through the thoughts.
Speaker 1: Well, it's awful and it's busted up families. I can
Speaker 1: tell you that from experience, and I don't know, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's very hard to explain. But when I hit people
Speaker 1: like you and I forget who was the author of
Speaker 1: that piece saying that that that's something that ought to
Speaker 1: be considered, you know, I'm down with that.
Speaker 2: It's just it's nuts.
Speaker 1: And I'll be honest with you, I'm going through it
Speaker 1: with a family member, and it's it's heartbreaking, is what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: It's on top of that, it's just stupid.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So coming from that, which I think, these these all
Speaker 8: these people, these Congress people who went on this video,
Speaker 8: which I'm convinced they all of them have this, Uh
Speaker 8: you know, where where was where were these where were
Speaker 8: the Democrats when they're talking about following orders? The dementia
Speaker 8: Joe Biden. You had some serious cognitive issues, you think,
Speaker 8: and our military was taking words from him. Where were they?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 8: Yeah, where the guy wasn't even capable of ordering a
Speaker 8: big macmeal and that McDonald's drive in.
Speaker 1: No, I don't mean to laugh. You're right, You're right.
Speaker 1: I mean they were nowhere to be found then. But hey,
Speaker 1: I appreciate your point of view, Doc, And I got
Speaker 1: a bunch of callers here.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, you know, and I did read that,
Speaker 1: and apparently there I don't think it'll happen, but there
Speaker 1: are some within the medical slash psychological community that think
Speaker 1: that it ought to be classified as a legitimate syndrome.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll have to see what happens. Hey, let's
Speaker 1: talk to let's talk to Steve Hey. Good morning, Steve.
Speaker 7: Hey, Mike, how you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm good.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 3: I just want to mention something about the military. I
Speaker 3: served twenty seven years in the reserves, and I volunteered
Speaker 3: twice for Desert Storm, and then when that came along,
Speaker 3: my unit got called up and I went to the
Speaker 3: thurge and I went to the invasion. And then yesterday
Speaker 3: my daughter says to me, you know, dad, when you
Speaker 3: want to Iraq, you abandon of the family. And I said,
Speaker 3: how can you say that?
Speaker 7: She said an er nurse.
Speaker 3: I said, how can you talk like that? But this
Speaker 3: is what they're going too. People's minds today. They exist
Speaker 3: like anti military.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, and boy, and it starts in grade school,
Speaker 1: goes through high school, then of course into college.
Speaker 2: That's the hell of a thing.
Speaker 1: I mean that happened, has happened for a long long time,
Speaker 1: and that's one of the things that we on the
Speaker 1: sensible right, the normies have to deal with. They've been
Speaker 1: having that crap pounded in their heads for years.
Speaker 3: I just didn't know what to say. I didn't want
Speaker 3: to argue with because you know, you can't change.
Speaker 2: People's mind, especially a liberal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that's what it is.
Speaker 7: But if you get.
Speaker 3: Orders to go from the military, you just go. You
Speaker 3: don't question it, to give it to your employer and
Speaker 3: then you leave.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, you know it's and I'm in a similar
Speaker 1: situation with that. And you know, the way I look
Speaker 1: at it, you got you got family way way up
Speaker 1: the food chain, and you've got politics way down the
Speaker 1: food chain. What is more important? But it's what a
Speaker 1: lot of people are dealing with unfortunately.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you've got a good show. Make we'll give
Speaker 3: a comment on it.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, Steve appreciate it, so, thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see it become designated as a syndrome,
Speaker 1: and I guess we'll have to see what happens.
Speaker 2: Hey, let's talk to Larry in Germantown. Hey, good morning, Larry.
Speaker 16: Good morning.
Speaker 7: How are you.
Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good. What you got for me?
Speaker 16: Well, I thing about the punishments of our elected officials.
Speaker 16: And what I do know is like when a politician
Speaker 16: is censured, like Adam Schiff, it doesn't mean a thing.
Speaker 2: Not a thing. You know, you know what he got
Speaker 2: for his troubles. He got elected to the Senate exactly.
Speaker 16: And so you know, I'd like to hear your if
Speaker 16: you have, if you know more than.
Speaker 17: Me, about what you probably do about, say the the
Speaker 17: chain of punishment, say starting with censor, because that's nothing,
Speaker 17: and then after a censer, what is there?
Speaker 16: And then what is it? You understand what I'm asking.
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Is I sit here, I'm not
Speaker 1: really sure. I know censure is that at the lower
Speaker 1: end of it.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm going to look into that though, but it can't stand.
Speaker 1: It just can't stand. You can't be putting these uh,
Speaker 1: these young men and women in that situation where they,
Speaker 1: with I guess the attempted help of the Democrat Party,
Speaker 1: they decide what's a lawful order and what's not. I mean,
Speaker 1: some of it's obvious, like the Melay situation in Vietnam,
Speaker 1: that was obvious. That guy for Lieutenant Kelly. I think
Speaker 1: it was gave illegal orders.
Speaker 2: I mean, but.
Speaker 1: They're trying to get them to disobey orders because they
Speaker 1: don't like the politics of it, they being the Democrats,
Speaker 1: and we can't.
Speaker 2: Have that right.
Speaker 16: And I think they're referring to Ice probably.
Speaker 2: Of course, of course. Well, I appreciate the call, my friend.
Speaker 16: All right, thank you, Okay, thank you bye.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question. I know censure is one option.
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of them really care if
Speaker 1: they're censured or not these days. But I will look
Speaker 1: into that. Hey, let's talk too, let's talk to Mark.
Speaker 7: Hey.
Speaker 2: Good morning, Mark.
Speaker 12: Hey, good morning.
Speaker 16: How are you today.
Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good, which god.
Speaker 18: You know, you know, these these five, these five congress
Speaker 18: men Congress women that that that are that have come
Speaker 18: out and made those comments. I think what's really going
Speaker 18: on here They are probably five of the more moderate
Speaker 18: Democrats and you know in Congress if there is any,
Speaker 18: and I think what what's happening here is they are
Speaker 18: trying to carve a niche out for themselves here, uh
Speaker 18: and suck you know, get some of the air back
Speaker 18: in the room for them by the socialist wing of
Speaker 18: that party, and that are they're extremely far left, and
Speaker 18: I think this is their way of trying to keep
Speaker 18: them on the radar. And I think using the military
Speaker 18: as a means to do that is reprehensible.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 18: So and that's that's a good theory. But that's what
Speaker 18: I think here. I mean, especially Slotkin in Michigan and
Speaker 18: Kelly and Arizona. I mean, they're probably looking at some
Speaker 18: of the people that the leadership of that party and saying, you.
Speaker 2: Know, we're not we're not here, and they're.
Speaker 18: Looking for a way to try to elevate them back,
Speaker 18: you know, back to prominent, especially with a midterm election
Speaker 18: coming up. But I think it's a I think it's
Speaker 18: reprehensible what they're doing. And I think long term, you know,
Speaker 18: this is probably not going to be good. It might
Speaker 18: help them politically in that party, but I don't think
Speaker 18: it's going to win them any votes on the outside,
Speaker 18: you know. And as far as far as Marjorie Taylor
Speaker 18: Green goes, I think the issue with her and what
Speaker 18: what Trump is upset about is that on a lot
Speaker 18: of these core issues like the budget, you know, she
Speaker 18: just hasn't supported the president and been a thorn in
Speaker 18: his side on that, along with you know, Rand Paul
Speaker 18: to some extent, And not that they're wrong what they're
Speaker 18: trying to do, but the problem is the Republicans don't
Speaker 18: have the votes to do what they would like to do,
Speaker 18: and that's the problem. And you know, she needs to
Speaker 18: work towards getting more of the members to come her
Speaker 18: way because you know, until that happens, you know, Trump
Speaker 18: is trying to keep the coalition together and make the
Speaker 18: best deal he can for what he can get, and
Speaker 18: that that's the problem, I believe. And the same is
Speaker 18: true with you know what's his name over in northern Kentucky.
Speaker 18: You know, you know, they may be right theoretically with
Speaker 18: with their thinking, you know, on budget and spending less money,
Speaker 18: but the votes aren't there. With even within that party.
Speaker 18: So you make the best deal you can and you
Speaker 18: move forward. I mean, that's what you do in any business,
Speaker 18: any situation. You make the best deal you can and
Speaker 18: move forward. You have core beliefs that you want us
Speaker 18: that you keep, but you you know you can't. You
Speaker 18: can't get everything you want. And you know as a lawyer,
Speaker 18: you know when you're a negotiating or whatever, you can't
Speaker 18: always get everything you want. That's just that's just the
Speaker 18: world we live in.
Speaker 7: Period.
Speaker 1: It truly is. Hey, I appreciate the call. Running out
Speaker 1: of time here, but really appreciate the call.
Speaker 2: Thanks, Okay, thanks, might take care. You're welcome.
Speaker 1: You know, there's been a lot of talk this morning
Speaker 1: about the oath that soldiers, sailors, and marines take when
Speaker 1: they're enlisting. I just want to read it for you.
Speaker 1: It's only a couple sentences. I, you know, state your name,
Speaker 1: do solemnly swear or affirm that I will support and
Speaker 1: defend the Constitution in the United States against all enemies,
Speaker 1: foreign and domestic. That I will bear true faith and
Speaker 1: allegiance to the same, And that I will obey the
Speaker 1: orders of the President of the United States and the
Speaker 1: orders of the officers appointed over me according to regulations
Speaker 1: and the Uniform Code of Military Justice, So help me god.
Speaker 1: You know again, I don't know how you can get
Speaker 1: much clearer than that. And I do understand that that
Speaker 1: does not apply to unlawful orders, but you're going to
Speaker 1: put a service member on the spot and put that
Speaker 1: person in a situation where they have to decide that.
Speaker 1: And what the Democrats are asking them to do. ICE
Speaker 1: is in these cities enforcing federal law, law that the
Speaker 1: Congress passed. I mean, when you boil it all down,
Speaker 1: that's what it is. These people trespassed into our country.
Speaker 1: Many of them, certainly, not all of them, certainly, not
Speaker 1: the majority of them, but many of them have committed
Speaker 1: serious crimes, and it is an illegal order for ICE
Speaker 1: to go in there. And not so much ICE in
Speaker 1: this situation, but the military, when you know they have
Speaker 1: contact with them and they're not supposed to do anything,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense. And it really does, in
Speaker 1: my mind, make me think, what in the heck do
Speaker 1: they have in store next this one. I think this
Speaker 1: one's gonna last for a while, and I hope there
Speaker 1: is some accountability for it, because I just think it's
Speaker 1: just so harmful for our country. The precedent is horrible.
Speaker 1: And I said, when the Democrats started their lawfare and
Speaker 1: it was obvious what they were doing, I said, Look,
Speaker 1: if people think that the Republicans are not going to
Speaker 1: respond in kind when they are in office, you're you're
Speaker 1: just delusional. They are and they have. That's just the
Speaker 1: way it is. And it's the same thing here, although
Speaker 1: Republicans would never propose something like this, but it's all
Speaker 1: about payback in politics unfortunately. But that's the way it is. Hey,
Speaker 1: we got to take a break up when we get
Speaker 1: back and take a little bit of a break from politics,
Speaker 1: maybe a little Hey, we're going to talk to Jason Williams,
Speaker 1: columnist for the Cincinnati Inquirer, talking about the Elder and
Speaker 1: ex game at the stadium pay Court Stadium last night.
Speaker 1: Jason did a great op ed earlier in the week
Speaker 1: about how he feels and a lot of other people
Speaker 1: feel that, you know, they make these high school teams
Speaker 1: jump through hoops to use Paul Brown's I keep calling
Speaker 1: it that to use pay Corpse Stadium and is a
Speaker 1: really good column Going to talk to Jason about that
Speaker 1: when we get back. Mike News Radio seven hundred wlwa
Speaker 1: you Mike Allen, Saturday midday closing hour of say, well,
Speaker 1: we've been talking about it a little bit this morning,
Speaker 1: and it's been on the newscast. Big game last night
Speaker 1: at pay Corpse Stadium, Elder versus Saint X, and Elder
Speaker 1: charged out in front, but Sat X came back to
Speaker 1: beat Elder forty two.
Speaker 2: To thirty four.
Speaker 1: Not the outcome I would have liked, but that doesn't
Speaker 1: matter because it's good for the city and I congratulate
Speaker 1: the Saint X bombers.
Speaker 2: I hope they win State.
Speaker 1: There was a crowd of twenty two thousand down there
Speaker 1: for a high school game, which is pretty incredible. But
Speaker 1: the question arises who actually owns pay Corpse Stadium and
Speaker 1: who decides what the stadium is used for. Jason Williams,
Speaker 1: columnist for The Inquirer and heard frequently on these airwaves,
Speaker 1: wrote a great op ed piece this week titled Elder
Speaker 1: Saint EX at pay Course Stadium must be the start
Speaker 1: of more prep games on the Bengals field. He's here
Speaker 1: to talk about it, Jason, thanks so much for calling.
Speaker 2: In this morning.
Speaker 12: Thank you, Mike. Great to be back with you. I'm
Speaker 12: always always to enjoy your show and always enjoy you
Speaker 12: when you ask you to come on. I'm always looking
Speaker 12: forward to it.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Let me read just one, maybe two sentences of your
Speaker 1: op ed because I think it kind of like sets
Speaker 1: out the issue. All right, count Friday's Friday's massive so
Speaker 1: Cincinnati showdown between the GCL South Powers as a reasonable
Speaker 1: event being played on a reasonable day.
Speaker 2: What's that all about, Jason?
Speaker 12: Uh, Mike in in the uh, in the in the
Speaker 12: lease agreement between the county and the and the Bengals
Speaker 12: uses the term and that, uh, the county is allowed
Speaker 12: to get the stadium for a quote reasonable amount of
Speaker 12: days throughout the year. That was, uh, that was in
Speaker 12: the last lease agreement, and it was in this lease
Speaker 12: agreement we double checked the other day, our Hamilton County
Speaker 12: reporters inquired Aaron Glenn and I looked looked through it,
Speaker 12: and you know, after this elder a sante X game
Speaker 12: was announced and uh, you know, it's the same language
Speaker 12: that was in there last time. And I have no
Speaker 12: idea what a reasonable amount of day it is. And
Speaker 12: and it's interesting because, uh, you know, the Bengals are
Speaker 12: ran by very very smart lawyers and uh, you know
Speaker 12: and it's interesting that they would keep that so vague.
Speaker 12: And my gut tells me there was probably a little
Speaker 12: a little bit of a battle over that, a little
Speaker 12: bit of a battle over Hey, the county wanted guarantees
Speaker 12: on an X amount of days. I don't know that
Speaker 12: for sure. Obviously a lot of those those conversations are private,
Speaker 12: but I could see the Bengals fighting to keep that
Speaker 12: language the same as reasonable and then keeping that open ended.
Speaker 12: Some of you lawyers like to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what, that's a lawyer's dream.
Speaker 1: You can rack up the billable hours fighting that one out.
Speaker 2: It's interesting. Let me ask you something is that?
Speaker 12: But I was kind of poking fun at h at
Speaker 12: the language and the lease with that line.
Speaker 2: Okay, it was good.
Speaker 1: Who actually owns pay Corps, the Bengals or the team?
Speaker 1: I mean, I would think, I mean, hell, we built it,
Speaker 1: we paid for it, it's ours.
Speaker 2: What's the situation with that?
Speaker 12: Well, we do you and I and those of us
Speaker 12: who live in others, who live in Hamilton County, we
Speaker 12: own pay Corps Stadium, and yet we we we we
Speaker 12: are representatives decided to give another very one sided sweetheart
Speaker 12: deal to the Bengals in this new ten year lease
Speaker 12: which was agreed upon over the summer, in which basically
Speaker 12: the Bengals have uh you know, they really they control
Speaker 12: the stadium and they control the stadium in the last
Speaker 12: lease and uh and we're gonna we're gonna spend a
Speaker 12: little less money on it and percentage wise, uh as
Speaker 12: than we did last time. But the Bengals, And here
Speaker 12: here's the sticking point. I wrote a lot about it
Speaker 12: during this whole process. Not a lot of people are
Speaker 12: talking about it. But when you look around the NFL,
Speaker 12: most teams have their practice facility in corporate headquarters out
Speaker 12: away from the stadium. It's separate from the home, their
Speaker 12: home stadium. I believe only the New England Patriots and
Speaker 12: the Houston Texans use their stadium or their stadium area
Speaker 12: outside of the Bengals for any kind of team operations
Speaker 12: like practices or corporate a corporate offices. So you have
Speaker 12: to that's a big deal because the Bengals then use
Speaker 12: the building or at least parts of the building, on
Speaker 12: a daily basis. Their their their corporate headquarters and offices
Speaker 12: are inside the stadium. Their locker room, their weight room,
Speaker 12: their players meeting rooms, the coaches offices, all that stuff
Speaker 12: is in the stadium, where in most cases the NFL
Speaker 12: team has their lease with the you know, the municipal stadium,
Speaker 12: but they have their own headquarters somewhere else. So that's
Speaker 12: a big that's a big sticking point here for this
Speaker 12: because the Bengals in some capacity are using the stadium
Speaker 12: every day three hundred and sixty five. I assume they
Speaker 12: probably take you know, the Holidays office there. They have
Speaker 12: operations in that building year round, versus, like I said,
Speaker 12: most other teams do not. You know, they play they
Speaker 12: they play there on on a Sunday or or you know,
Speaker 12: Thursday night. They play their games there and then their
Speaker 12: back to their practice suburban practice facility or wherever they
Speaker 12: have their headquarters located throughout the week. And so that
Speaker 12: that that's a big piece to this whole thing, is
Speaker 12: that the Bengals have their operations there, and so that
Speaker 12: throws all this stuff into you know, the whole issue
Speaker 12: of can other events and high school games and tractor
Speaker 12: pull you know, unster truck events and concerts using the
Speaker 12: stadium And that's where it becomes a big sticky point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you make the point in the story that
Speaker 1: it's been seven years since the last high school game
Speaker 1: was played there, and you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And I didn't get to go last night. It's the
Speaker 2: perfect for them.
Speaker 1: Uh some years ago Elder played Highlands hockey team over there.
Speaker 1: I think there was substantially more than twenty two thousand
Speaker 1: for that. I don't really remember why it was a
Speaker 1: big deal, but it seems perfect for it. And is
Speaker 1: it fair to say, Jason, that the Bengals have been
Speaker 1: a little bit reluctant to let these things happen.
Speaker 12: There's no doubt about it, and that they've been reluctant
Speaker 12: to let it happen, you know, And I know I
Speaker 12: poked fun of this in the column too, because you know,
Speaker 12: we were celebrating that they were that they allowed this
Speaker 12: to happen, and they allowed it to happen in a
Speaker 12: quick turnaround because this game was originally scheduled to be
Speaker 12: played at Mason High School and that place certainly can't
Speaker 12: see twenty two thousand, and to make a point here,
Speaker 12: there's only two other stadiums in this region that can
Speaker 12: seat that many people besides take Ore, and that's Nitford
Speaker 12: Stadium that you see, and obviously a Great American ballplark.
Speaker 12: So yes, they they've and and I do think and
Speaker 12: I heard along the way that, you know, because the
Speaker 12: N Street House commissioners, the N Street House Commissioner Lisha Reese,
Speaker 12: they were pushing for this, They were pushing that there
Speaker 12: could be more, you know, non Bengals events being held
Speaker 12: at the stadium. So I do think there was some
Speaker 12: softening up there of that. I did. I remember hearing
Speaker 12: that during the process of the lease agreement. You know,
Speaker 12: the fact though that you know, it all ultimately was
Speaker 12: decided that the language, you know, and again that can
Speaker 12: be opening, and that doesn't that's not a criticism of
Speaker 12: the Bengals necessarily, because they could be sitting there saying, yes,
Speaker 12: we are more willing to do those things than we
Speaker 12: were last time. The language is the same. But but
Speaker 12: bring us proposals or bring us events on an event
Speaker 12: by event basis is potentially what what could be going
Speaker 12: on there? And you know, when you're you're exactly right,
Speaker 12: my twenty two two thousand uh fans there. Last night
Speaker 12: I watched some of it on TV. Then I was
Speaker 12: falling up on all the clips and all the stuff
Speaker 12: on sincenat dot com and the media social media after
Speaker 12: the game. And I mean that that that's the kind
Speaker 12: of atmosphere you can't you can't have on on any
Speaker 12: school campus. Uh. You know, you can have that an
Speaker 12: elder as awesome as the pit is or at Saint
Speaker 12: X and or any other school around here, you can't
Speaker 12: have that many fans there. And then these Streethhouse made
Speaker 12: a great point, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity, uh,
Speaker 12: for for those for those guys. Now, if you dig
Speaker 12: dig down into that, uh, maybe not for a handful
Speaker 12: of those guys, because I know, if you know, a
Speaker 12: lot of the big time players come through those programs
Speaker 12: that they're going to go on to big time uh
Speaker 12: college football. I know there's a guy that's going to
Speaker 12: Notre Dame from Saint X. But you know, so maybe
Speaker 12: there's a you know, there's a guy here and there
Speaker 12: that's gonna make it to the NFL. But for the
Speaker 12: most part, that's a once in a life time opportunity
Speaker 12: for those players, those coaches, those parents, you know, brothers
Speaker 12: and sisters, grandparents and so everyone who was there last night,
Speaker 12: the players, everyone, they will remember that forever and how
Speaker 12: special that's special. Yeah, And as tough as it was
Speaker 12: for Elder, Like they're gonna remember, Wow, we got to
Speaker 12: play at Pey Corpse Stadium in a huge game, and
Speaker 12: we'll be talking about that game. You know, ten years
Speaker 12: from now we'll write, you know, someone will be along
Speaker 12: the line. They'll be referencing, Oh, okay, you know they played
Speaker 12: this game Elder and Saint X the in the storied rivalry.
Speaker 12: They played this game at pay Corse Stadium in front
Speaker 12: of twenty two thousand people. And those those guys are
Speaker 12: you know, players right now, they'll be telling their kids
Speaker 12: about about, you know, playing in that stadium and hoping, hey,
Speaker 12: maybe you'll get to do that someday. So I get
Speaker 12: what Denise street House is saying on that, and she's right,
Speaker 12: and so let's let's I think, and it's not about
Speaker 12: the touchy feely piece about it so so much is
Speaker 12: it's it's about along those lines, it's about allowing the
Speaker 12: community to use their facility more often. And again we
Speaker 12: don't know how many how much more often?
Speaker 14: Is that?
Speaker 15: You know?
Speaker 12: Is that is that one? Is that one? Is that
Speaker 12: one or two high school football games a year? Is
Speaker 12: that you know, just Tom Gamble, who does the great
Speaker 12: work on putting those high school classics and showdowns together.
Speaker 12: Is that him getting involved and bringing in you know, uh,
Speaker 12: you know, a preseason event or you know, and they
Speaker 12: play some posts and games there. Would love to see that.
Speaker 12: I mentioned the Reds. The Reds for ten years have
Speaker 12: done a big high school showcase where and they rotate
Speaker 12: it where high school baseball teams get to play on
Speaker 12: the Great American Field, uh, you know, the Great American
Speaker 12: Ballpark field. And that's that's special. Those guys who played
Speaker 12: baseball will remember remember we got to play at the
Speaker 12: Red Stadium. Remember that forever. And this is yeah, big,
Speaker 12: a big deal for kids.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Hey, Jason, Unfortunately we're out of time. This has been
Speaker 1: a great discussion and I certainly hope And let me
Speaker 1: just ask you one more question.
Speaker 2: Do you think the Bengals are going to loosen up
Speaker 2: on this a little bit?
Speaker 12: I do, I really do. I think this was the
Speaker 12: start of this was the start of something. And again
Speaker 12: I don't know how many how many events, because you
Speaker 12: know it is you can only really use the place
Speaker 12: for what, you know, eight nine months of the year anyway,
Speaker 12: because of the weather. I don't know how many things
Speaker 12: can go in there, but I do think they are
Speaker 12: going to loosen up, and so I think this was
Speaker 12: the start of something. And I don't know if it's
Speaker 12: gonna be every Friday night every week in high school
Speaker 12: football games, or every other weekend some kind of concert
Speaker 12: or something like that, but I do think you'll see
Speaker 12: some more things there throughout the year.
Speaker 2: I hope.
Speaker 1: So, Hey, I really appreciate you talking to us about it,
Speaker 1: and hope we can call on you again.
Speaker 12: Thanks anytime, Mike.
Speaker 2: Okay, good day, you too, Thanks all right.
Speaker 1: Jason Williams from the Cincinnati Inquirer also heard frequently on
Speaker 1: these airwaves talking about the situation with the Bengals Stadium
Speaker 1: pay Course Stadium. You know, maybe the Bengals can loosen
Speaker 1: up a little bit on who does what they're they're
Speaker 1: a bit proprietary.
Speaker 2: I mean, we paid for it.
Speaker 1: We ought to have some input, and last night we
Speaker 1: did and from everything I've heard, it was just an
Speaker 1: outstanding success. Hey, we got to take a break, but
Speaker 1: we'll be back. Mike Allen, Saturday Midday, one hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: Mike Allen Saturday midday, closing half hour of saying, hey,
Speaker 1: we've been talking about it all morning and everybody around
Speaker 1: the country's talking about it. These six Democrats, Senators and
Speaker 1: congress members yesterday, and we played it at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the show.
Speaker 2: Put this video together.
Speaker 1: That the way I'm looking at it, they're encouraging service
Speaker 1: members to disobey what I feel is a lawful order.
Speaker 1: And boy, you just you shudder at the precedent that
Speaker 1: that sets. And obviously the questions are are the orders lawful?
Speaker 1: And who determines what is lawful? Our next guest, you've
Speaker 1: heard him a million times here, Steve Gooden, in addition
Speaker 1: to everything else he does, former federal prosecutor, former city
Speaker 1: council member. Steve spent a long time in the army
Speaker 1: jag in the reserves, as I did. And Steve really
Speaker 1: appreciates you joining us this morning.
Speaker 7: Thank happy to be here. By good morning.
Speaker 1: How many years were you in the fighting one thirty
Speaker 1: fifth jag out there in Sharonville.
Speaker 9: Although yeah, it was eleven years, good about just shire
Speaker 9: two years active duty, So okay.
Speaker 7: I did not hang around all the.
Speaker 9: Way through, but they did about you know, it was
Speaker 9: kind of a little different during the Iraq spent up,
Speaker 9: so we stayed a little you know, we didn't stick
Speaker 9: to those eight year and four year extensions. So yeah,
Speaker 9: I did just right it eleven years all in.
Speaker 1: I got ten in, but I didn't do any active
Speaker 1: duty time. But anyway, that's neither here nor there. Your thoughts,
Speaker 1: Steve Gooden, then, I know you looked at it, your
Speaker 1: thoughts on this whole brew haha about this, And I
Speaker 1: do want to ask you too, in your opinion if
Speaker 1: you feel that the orders and I guess in general
Speaker 1: orders to quell dangers or whatever, if they're legal, and
Speaker 1: who determines whether they're legal or not?
Speaker 9: Well, yeah, it's an interesting and kind of complicated issue.
Speaker 9: And let's just I mean, cutting, cutting right through it all.
Speaker 9: It's interesting what they what they're saying, what they mean
Speaker 9: is a.
Speaker 7: Little different from what they say.
Speaker 12: I mean.
Speaker 9: I watched the video several times. I've read some of
Speaker 9: the public statements around it. They are clearly referencing the
Speaker 9: Trump administration's decision to deploy regular army troops in the
Speaker 9: district of Columbia, where I believe, you know, it's pretty clear,
Speaker 9: because it's a federal territory for lack of a better word,
Speaker 9: that the president has some pretty clear right to do so.
Speaker 9: He has also deployed troops around federal buildings and other cities,
Speaker 9: and there has been discussion.
Speaker 7: Thirdly about activating.
Speaker 9: National Guard troops in other cities where there's been some
Speaker 9: sort of indication of you know, a potential you know,
Speaker 9: general lawlessness, disorder, what have you. Now, that third category
Speaker 9: is a very complicated thing and is are already being
Speaker 9: kind of litigated preemptively, and you really kind of need
Speaker 9: the governors say so, and the National Guards under a
Speaker 9: different standard and regular army. But that's what these guys
Speaker 9: are talking about. They are insinuating. The senators are sort
Speaker 9: of sending a message to some of the army troops
Speaker 9: in this very dramatic fashion, saying, you know, this may
Speaker 9: not be a lawful order, you know, for the Trump
Speaker 9: administration to send you into these domestic operations, and that
Speaker 9: you have an obligation to disobey a lawful order. Now,
Speaker 9: as you know, is generally true that a soldier, sailor
Speaker 9: marine really does have an obligation to push back against
Speaker 9: an unlawful order. But they don't have an obligation and
Speaker 9: cannot have an obligation to push back against what they
Speaker 9: think might be an unlawful policy. And that's something that
Speaker 9: has been litigated up through the federal courts and again
Speaker 9: and again a lot of it in the Vietnam eras.
Speaker 9: So I mean, look, you know, when you talk about
Speaker 9: your obligations to disobey a lawful order, ninety percent of
Speaker 9: the time you're talking about a superior officer or superior
Speaker 9: enlisted instructing a soldier to violate the Geneva Convention.
Speaker 7: To the Rules of War.
Speaker 9: And when I was on active duty, a big part
Speaker 9: of my job was teaching that those.
Speaker 7: Rules to soldiers, right or wrong.
Speaker 9: The United States is the signatory to all these international agreements,
Speaker 9: and there's certain ways we're supposed to treat our prisoners
Speaker 9: in certain ways we're supposed to conduct ourselves in combat.
Speaker 9: That is the lawful order issue that's being you know,
Speaker 9: that is being discussed in the uniform cod to military conduct.
Speaker 9: Is that concept of if an officer tells you shoot
Speaker 9: that guy, and you're saying with the soldiers, saying, wait,
Speaker 9: he's unarmed or it's a kid. That's the kind of
Speaker 9: thing where you do have some obligation to push back.
Speaker 9: But in terms of general policies about where you are deployed,
Speaker 9: where you were being sent, where you were going to war.
Speaker 9: No soldier should be tasked or ever put in the
Speaker 9: position where they have to ask those questions. Those are
Speaker 9: policy questions. And there was a lot of litigation back
Speaker 9: in the Vietnam era where someone would get drafted and say,
Speaker 9: you know what, I I don't agree with the war,
Speaker 9: and they're like, well, too bad, Like go run for Congress, vote.
Speaker 7: You know, and try to do something that way.
Speaker 9: You don't get to as a soldier, question where you're deployed,
Speaker 9: how you're deployed, etc. Do you have an obligation to
Speaker 9: push back against an unlawful order, particularly in a forward
Speaker 9: situation where you feel that the rules of war are
Speaker 9: being violated Geneva conventions of being violated. Absolutely, that's well established.
Speaker 9: You know, there's president and that and all the way
Speaker 9: back into the Civil War through court's martial, and that's
Speaker 9: very much in our in our tradition. But do you
Speaker 9: have an obligation if if you think the unlawful order
Speaker 9: is your actual deployment? That's absurd because otherwise you're going
Speaker 9: to have all You're going to be trying to fight
Speaker 9: out public policy questions and legislative questions and and so forth.
Speaker 9: You know, in the court martial system, and it just
Speaker 9: it's it would it would absolutely lead to chaos. And
Speaker 9: all six of these senators should.
Speaker 7: Have known better.
Speaker 9: Yes, I don't know how they got there or and
Speaker 9: I guess they're all ambitious and they and they they
Speaker 9: know there's a lot of fear in some urban areas
Speaker 9: of this idea that the idea is very much out
Speaker 9: there that Trump is going to send troops in quote unquote,
Speaker 9: and I guess they're playing to that, and I guess
Speaker 9: they see some political advantage, but it really does put
Speaker 9: the rank and file troops in middle and a lot
Speaker 9: of these young guys maybe they're watching that they can do.
Speaker 9: I have an obligation somehow to push back if I
Speaker 9: don't like where where the Trump administration is sending me.
Speaker 9: And look, it is very limited that they're There are
Speaker 9: times where it is lawful for a president to send
Speaker 9: troops or to active order to work with the governor
Speaker 9: and activate national guards troops in domestic operations. I mean,
Speaker 9: it's pretty routine in times of natural disasters and hurricanes
Speaker 9: and things of that nature. There's a lot of precedent there.
Speaker 9: It's a little more it's not as well developed on
Speaker 9: this issue of general lawlessness and violence in cities. But
Speaker 9: you know, there are obligates, there are times when it
Speaker 9: can happen. I mean, we've had the National Guard. Back
Speaker 9: in nineteen sixty eight after the assassination of Martin Luther King,
Speaker 9: we had a National Guard deployment in the city. We
Speaker 9: came very close in two thousand and one after the
Speaker 9: Timothy Thomas riots. So it's not like it's never happened.
Speaker 9: It's not a good thing, but it's absolutely there, and
Speaker 9: there's no way the rank and file should be put
Speaker 9: in the middle of these six.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Steve, I looked at the Oath of enlistment for
Speaker 1: enlisted people and I'm not going to read all of it,
Speaker 1: but he didn't want to read part of it to you.
Speaker 1: Says some things in introduction and that I will obey
Speaker 1: the orders of the President of the United States and
Speaker 1: the orders of the officers appointed over me. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I know that's not the be all to end all,
Speaker 1: but as a policy situation, it's like, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: the president is the commander in chief and everyone down
Speaker 1: the chain that's above you and rank. You got to
Speaker 1: do what they tell you to do, and you make
Speaker 1: a good point. I didn't think about it looking at
Speaker 1: it from a policy perspective. Let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: who determines whether the order is lawful or not? I
Speaker 1: just think it's putting these young men and women Army, Navy,
Speaker 1: Air Force, and Marines in a really bad spot.
Speaker 9: Well, that's absolutely right. I mean, basically, what would happen,
Speaker 9: you know, is it would It would begin with the
Speaker 9: court martial. It will begin with someone, you know, say,
Speaker 9: basically refusing to carry out the order of being court martialed.
Speaker 9: Their defense would be that they felt the order was unlawful,
Speaker 9: and then if they're convicted that the court martial and
Speaker 9: the military justice system it would work its way out
Speaker 9: up to the through the kind of joint court of
Speaker 9: appeal they have in the military justice system, and then
Speaker 9: from there it can go into the federal system. So
Speaker 9: you would, in all likelihood see a scenario if indeed
Speaker 9: this all comes to pass, where it would end up
Speaker 9: in one of the federal appellate courts making the final call.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just a shame that we apparently have
Speaker 1: to get there. I don't know about you, but I
Speaker 1: look at these things with amazement. It's hard to believe
Speaker 1: that they would want to put these service members in
Speaker 1: that position. It's so so irresponsible, And I don't know,
Speaker 1: do you think that some type of I don't know
Speaker 1: how to put it. Let me ask you, do you
Speaker 1: think there should be some accountability for these six congress
Speaker 1: people for doing this. I had a guy called Earl
Speaker 1: in the morning who mentioned that he didn't think any
Speaker 1: of them were reservist. And you know, I'm not really
Speaker 1: talking about going after them.
Speaker 2: Legally, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: Something else maybe censure, but the UCMJ does apply to reservist.
Speaker 1: I think that happened when I was in so I
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess that's a long way of asking
Speaker 1: what do you think should happen to these congress people?
Speaker 9: Well, Mike, you're asking the wrong guy, because every time
Speaker 9: I watch a movie a few good men. I take
Speaker 9: the side of the Jack Nicholson character. I still think
Speaker 9: he was wrong that court martialed he was trying to
Speaker 9: I think Santiago is a Week was not a good
Speaker 9: soldier or marine. So I'm on the other side of that.
Speaker 9: But no, but you're absolutely right. If any of these
Speaker 9: congress members are still in or senators, then you're all
Speaker 9: senators are still in the reserves in any capacity. Absolutely,
Speaker 9: the u CMJ or CO military conduct still does apply
Speaker 9: to them. They could be court martialed. Trump has suggested
Speaker 9: it's a form of sedition or punishable by death. I
Speaker 9: think that might be overstating it a little bit because
Speaker 9: I think, you know, for it to be actually, you know,
Speaker 9: meet the legal standard of sedition, they have to give
Speaker 9: them a if they basically had come out and said
Speaker 9: all the way, hey, if you're deployed in an urban
Speaker 9: area and you don't think that the President or the
Speaker 9: administration have followed checked all the boxes for that kind
Speaker 9: of domestic deployment, you have an obviasion to fight back.
Speaker 9: If they said something like that, I think they'd be
Speaker 9: in a lot more trouble. There is a little bit
Speaker 9: of a of a cowardly sort of the way this
Speaker 9: is their statement is wordsmithed themselves. That's sort of like
Speaker 9: Bill Clinton way of saying, well, it's not really what
Speaker 9: I meant, kind of kind of covered air. So it's
Speaker 9: not a I think it's going to be hard to
Speaker 9: And they also have some general First Amendment arguments they
Speaker 9: can make about this being a policy matter, so they
Speaker 9: don't come all the way out and say soldiers don't
Speaker 9: go into these urban areas they can. They're talking in
Speaker 9: general terms. It's very clear from the context what they're
Speaker 9: talking about. But yeah, I think hopefully for them, they're
Speaker 9: smart enough to know if all of them are out
Speaker 9: and have met all their reserve requirements to post active duty,
Speaker 9: then they're probably outside the ucum jack. But if any
Speaker 9: of them are still in the reserves, that is something
Speaker 9: where they could be investigated by their friendly local jaggutary.
Speaker 1: Who would make the decision on that, Steve, if something
Speaker 1: like that were to happen.
Speaker 9: Well, it will be their commanding officer in the reserves,
Speaker 9: you know what, it would have a duty and obligation
Speaker 9: to investigate that prefer it. You know, it always begins
Speaker 9: in the chain of command. So you know, any kind
Speaker 9: of court martial referral always, you know, lawfully has to
Speaker 9: begin with their commanding officer, and that's where that would start.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, Hey, we got about five minutes left. Let me
Speaker 1: switch gears on you talk a little politics for a minute.
Speaker 1: Very sorry to learn that you didn't make it back
Speaker 1: to city council.
Speaker 2: The results of this thing.
Speaker 1: Just tell me, Steve, pretty much what I already knew,
Speaker 1: but puts an exclamation point on it. The Democrats, the
Speaker 1: discipline that they have in these elections as far as
Speaker 1: turnout and voting for the Democrat candidate is really something
Speaker 1: to behold. I mean, you look at it. Ryan James
Speaker 1: was nineth he won, Liz Keating came in tenth. But
Speaker 1: there's a very serious, severe drop off.
Speaker 2: I guess with that.
Speaker 1: Ryan got thirty four thousand votes, Liz got about ten thousand.
Speaker 1: Under that, I don't know your thoughts on that, and
Speaker 1: I also want to know too, what is on the
Speaker 1: horizon for the Charter Party.
Speaker 9: Well, Mike, I'd love to run out the clock talking
Speaker 9: about a few good men in court Marcials.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we got our.
Speaker 9: Look, the non incumbent got our butts kicked last month,
Speaker 9: earlier this month, and there's no question about it. And look,
Speaker 9: it was just straight slate voting. I mean, there were
Speaker 9: two or three factors, and we've been digging through and
Speaker 9: to see.
Speaker 7: Sort of what went wrong.
Speaker 9: I mean, we kind of had a pretty good sense
Speaker 9: of where it was heading about those last you know.
Speaker 7: Three or four days.
Speaker 9: We really felt like if the election had been held
Speaker 9: in the summer, I think we would have been at
Speaker 9: a very different place. I think we were winning and
Speaker 9: had defined the issues, and city Hall was responding, particularly
Speaker 9: to those of us on the Charter slate, and vertly
Speaker 9: to me because we were really bringing it to the
Speaker 9: mayor and council on the crime issue and the public
Speaker 9: safety issue and the roads and so forth. You know,
Speaker 9: we were really hitting him hard. And they did respond.
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't think it was the right thing
Speaker 9: to do necessarily, but they did get rid of the
Speaker 9: police chief. They did change the way to the officers
Speaker 9: are deployed downtown. They have, you know, in the last
Speaker 9: few weeks. They did just enough, I think to signal
Speaker 9: the voters that they were looking. But at the end
Speaker 9: of the day, I think there's two things. The turnout,
Speaker 9: even though at thirty percent it wasn't busmal. I mean,
Speaker 9: we have at least three hundred and seven thousand people
Speaker 9: living in the city, so you know, Ryan James got
Speaker 9: roughly ten percent of the residents voted for him. That's
Speaker 9: not some gigantic mandate. So you have a low turnout,
Speaker 9: and then you have very disciplined slate voters, all of
Speaker 9: whom were told that people like me and Liz and uh,
Speaker 9: and Smitherman, all all of us, by the way, who
Speaker 9: brid the polling had named better name ID and better
Speaker 9: positive name ID than most of the folks.
Speaker 7: Who want Ironically it doesn't matter.
Speaker 9: But they were told over and over and over again,
Speaker 9: these Democratic voters that we were, you know, that secretly
Speaker 9: aligned with MAGA. We were going to bring troops into
Speaker 9: the streets, we were going to bring fascism to Cincinnati,
Speaker 9: et cetera, et cetera. So the people who did and
Speaker 9: it's so funny. My daughter is a Democrat who lives
Speaker 9: with me, and I was getting the mailers about myself here.
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 9: It was those kind of well it opened her eyes.
Speaker 9: She's like, this is crazy, and I'm like, hey, welcome
Speaker 9: to it, kid. This is the stuff they don't teach
Speaker 9: you about it. Your professors didn't tell you how mean
Speaker 9: this can be.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 9: But but yeah, I think they knew it was likely
Speaker 9: going to be a low turnout. Corey Bowman at the
Speaker 9: end of the day, didn't, you know, excited parts of
Speaker 9: the Republican base. But he also I think kind of
Speaker 9: hurt some of the independent candidates like me and Smitherman,
Speaker 9: because you know, we weren't on that Republican sample ballot,
Speaker 9: even though we clearly were law and order candidates, So
Speaker 9: you know, we were kind of getting it from both sides.
Speaker 9: You know, we were there were it just wasn't the
Speaker 9: year for independent type candidates to break through, which is
Speaker 9: weird because we've always had that tradition in Cincinnati. But
Speaker 9: we're going to stay active. We're going to be looking
Speaker 9: at additional candidates. We're also going to be looking at
Speaker 9: some ballot initiatives particularly. I think one of the big
Speaker 9: issues that emerged here from the people I've talked to
Speaker 9: is just there's so many people who live in the townships,
Speaker 9: who live in surrounding counties, who have business here, who
Speaker 9: love the city, who have spent their money here, but
Speaker 9: they can't vote and they don't have any say, and
Speaker 9: it drives them crazy. And of course the city cannot
Speaker 9: sustain itself or live without them. So you know, when
Speaker 9: we look at what Cleveland's done in Indianapolis has done,
Speaker 9: They've they've made some stabs toward metro government to try
Speaker 9: to help make that more fair, and I think that's
Speaker 9: something where the Charter people are going to be putting
Speaker 9: some thoughts to it. Because if you live in Delhi Township,
Speaker 9: but your business is downtown and you want to take
Speaker 9: your kids to supporting events downtown, and you're disgusted by
Speaker 9: shootings in the middle of the work day on Fountain
Speaker 9: Square and you don't feel safe coming downtown, but you
Speaker 9: want to be a part of the city still and
Speaker 9: consider yourself a Cincinnati and even though you live in
Speaker 9: the township, we have to find some way for those
Speaker 9: voices to be heard too.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm glad to hear you say Charter is going
Speaker 1: to stay active. I think it's helpful for the city.
Speaker 1: I really do. Hey, Steve, I appreciate this conversation and
Speaker 1: hope we can call.
Speaker 2: On you again.
Speaker 7: Anytime. You take care of my Okay.
Speaker 1: Thanks, all right, that was Steve good and boy had
Speaker 1: some good scoop, both on the political end about the
Speaker 1: city and from the UCMJ angle with what those Democrat
Speaker 1: Congress people did yesterday. Bad bad, bad news. And we'll
Speaker 1: see how it plays out. Hey, I am finished, So
Speaker 1: I am out of here. As always, I want to
Speaker 1: thank my great producer Liam for keep me out of trouble. Hey,
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