WEBVTT - Mike Allen Saturrday Mid-Day -- 11/22/25 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:06.920 News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday Midday 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:09.720 kind of a cold and brisk Saturday morning. 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:13.160 Well, you know what, just one. 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:18.120 You think Trump derangement syndrome can't get any worse? 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:19.640 It does. 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:25.040 We found out this week that Democrats want military men 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:29.840 and women to ignore orders that they, the Democrats, think 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:34.760 are illegal. And the six Democrats that we're talking about, 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:37.600 they put out a statement on video. Are you gonna 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.600 hear that in just a second. Of the six Democrats 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:45.360 are Senator Elise Slotkin, she's the ringleader on this, from Michigan, 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:48.880 Senator Mark Kelly, who he's a Democrat, but I think 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:52.560 you ought to know better. He's from Arizona, Representative Chris 0:00:52.600 --> 0:01:00.720 Deluzio from Pennsylvania, Representative Maggie Goodlander from New Hampshire, Chrissy 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:07.319 Hulahan from Pennsylvania, and Representative Jason Crowe from Colorado. They 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:11.960 put this video together and put it out on Tuesday. 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:13.000 Could you play that please? 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:15.560 Liam? 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:20.000 I'm Senator Alissa Soockin, Senator Mark Kelly, Representative Chris Stluzio, 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.880 Congressman Representative Chrissy. 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.440 Hulahan, Congressman Jason Crowe. I was a captain in the 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:26.400 United States. 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:30.440 Navy, former CIA officer, former Navy, former paratrooper and Army ranger, 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:32.399 former intelligence officer. 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:33.119 Former Air Force. 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:35.440 We want to speak directly to members of the military 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:37.240 and the intelligence community. 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:39.640 Who take risks each day keep Americans safe. 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:42.679 We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now. 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:45.920 Americans trust their military, with that trust is at risk. 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:49.600 This administration is pitting our uniform, military. 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.560 And intelligence community professionals. 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:52.400 Against American citizens. 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:53.200 Like us. 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:56.680 You all swore an oath to protect and defend this constitution. 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.960 Right now, the threats to our constitution aren't just coming 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:01.720 from right here at home. 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:02.680 Our laws are clear. 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:05.240 You can refuse illegal orders. 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:10.000 You can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders. 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.480 No one has to carry out orders that violate the 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:14.079 law or our constitution. 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:16.560 We know this is hard and that it's a difficult 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:17.800 time to be a public servant. 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.359 But whether you're serving in the CIA, the Army, or 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:21.880 Navy the Air Force. 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:23.560 Your vigilance is critical. 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:27.160 And know that we have your back because now more than. 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.040 Ever, the American people need you. 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.799 We need you to stand up for our laws, our constitution, 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.040 and who we are as Americans. 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.240 Don't give up. Don't give up, don't give up, don't 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.280 give up the ship. You know, I tell you what 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.840 I know. I say this all the time, but I 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:43.280 mean it. 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.360 I never, in my wildest dreams would have thought I 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:53.200 would hear United States senators and congress members telling service 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:58.720 members to ignore orders. Where in the hell is that 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:03.160 coming from? And you just wonder what's next. They are 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:07.680 encouraging these members of the military to ignore orders from 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.520 their superiors, the main one being and we're going to 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.040 talk about the oath in a second year the president 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:17.440 of the United States. This has what it has come 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:22.480 to with these people, the Democrats. And you talk about 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:27.799 a horrible precedent. You know, they set the precedent with 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:29.000 respect to lawfare. 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:33.800 They invented it, they started it. And you know, I 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:34.720 have to say. 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:40.360 Republicans are reacting, I think as appropriately as they should, 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.760 but they started it. Now they come up with this 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:48.280 Senator Slotken, she's the one that the ringleader on this thing. 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:52.320 She says, quote the threats to our constitution are coming 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:56.520 right from right here at home close quote. 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:58.560 You know what that makes me sick. 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:02.600 We are all so tired of the whole threat to 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:06.560 democracy thing. I mean, give it a rest, find something 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:10.200 else to say. Let's just break this down and look 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:15.240 at it by the numbers. One ICE is in these 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:22.640 cities to enforce immigration laws that Congress passed. It is illegal. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:26.480 I don't care what anybody says. It's just blatantly obvious. 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:32.320 It is illegal to trespass into our country by ignoring 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:37.599 our laws. Three ICE agents are sworn to enforce the 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:42.840 law as written by Congress. They don't like the immigration laws, 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:48.039 then change them. You know, Biden, lets this is forth. Biden, 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:52.799 lets untold millions of people illegal aliens into this country. 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:56.560 Trump tries to clean it up, and now you get 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:58.440 this from the Democrats. 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:00.120 Ignore order. 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:06.200 Five Democrats are urging service members to basically commit treason 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:10.400 versus the United States, and Trump came out really strong 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:14.839 on that yesterday. Some of the Republican reactions. Senator Eric 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:20.400 Schmidt from Missouri said, I'm quoting him. Elected Democrats just 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:24.320 released a video encouraging members of the military to commit 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:29.880 treason and defy orders from the President of the United States. 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:33.520 And that's exactly what they're telling these young men and 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:39.160 women to do. You know, I just it's still it's 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.520 just so hard to fathom what the hell they're thinking. 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:49.039 Then you got Senator Schmidt, Eric Schmidt from Missouri Republican. 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.040 He goes on to say that at the end of it, 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:54.679 this is a quote. At the end of the day, 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.520 they're meaning the Democrats, at the end of the day, 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.520 they're mad at the They're mad the America. Can people 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:04.159 chose Trump and now they're calling on the military and 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:11.440 intelligence community to interfere. It just sounds a little subversive 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:18.000 to me. Some in the administration and the media. This 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:22.279 is from Senator Hulahan, one of the Democrats. Some of 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:26.640 the administration and media are actively working to distort that 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:30.960 message into something The message that they're putting out something 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:35.520 dark and divisive. You think talent service members to ignore 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:40.159 orders is not dark or divisive. Igazand to say, let 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:44.680 me be absolutely clear, there is nothing more patriotic, nothing 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:48.000 more stabilizing, and nothing more true to the rule of 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:53.200 law than reminding our military of their constitutional obligations and 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:57.680 reassuring them that if they are ever given an unlawful order, 0:06:58.000 --> 0:06:59.920 they do not have to carry it out. 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:04.000 Yeah, it's real. It really makes me. 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:08.440 Happy that we're having Democrats tell service members to ignore 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.400 the law, and that's what they're doing. That's what they're doing, 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:15.960 and what the Democrats are saying that's not dark or divisive. 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:22.680 These people are delusional, you know. Yeah, he says doing 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:27.560 this is something dark and divisive that what the Republicans 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.600 are doing. You know, let me ask a question. Isn't 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:39.040 treason dark or divisive? Isn't sedition dark or divisive? Again, 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:44.560 you have to look at the horrible precedent that this sets. 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:49.320 It's a horrible precedent. You know, what are we to 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:53.120 do when one of the two major political parties in 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:58.320 the United States tells service members to take the law 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:04.400 into their own hand and disobey their superior officers. This 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:09.760 cannot go unchallenged. Something must be done about this. There 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:14.760 must be accountability. You know, maybe I missed it, but 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:20.440 I didn't hear anything in that video about exactly which 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:24.600 orders the Democrats believed to be illegal. They had plenty 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:26.360 of time to put it in there if they wanted to, 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:30.840 but they didn't. Senator Lindsey Graham, he spent three decades 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:35.559 in the army jag. He was livid when he found 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:39.959 out about this. He's all over it. He also wants 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:45.280 to know what so called illegal orders the Democrats are 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:49.880 talking about, and he wrote a letter to these six 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:55.840 idiots telling them just that he wants to know. Here's 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.560 what he says. This is lindsay, I cannot find a 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:02.559 single example of an ill legal order during this administration. 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.880 But as a member of Congress, I believe you owe 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.559 it to the country to be specific as to which 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:15.120 orders you believe are unlawful in this regard, could you 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:19.960 please provide clarity on what orders issued by President Trump 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:24.400 or those in his chain of command you consider illegal. 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:26.400 I think that letter. 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:29.280 Went out Wednesday and we haven't heard anything, but it's 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.440 not an unreasonable request. 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.000 There's a guy named Douglas R. Lindsay. 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:39.960 He wrote an op ed in the publication military dot Com, 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:43.200 and if you're a service member, retired service member, reservist, 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:47.080 you know what Military dot com is. He's the deputy 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:52.480 editor and he's also retired USAF Lieutenant colonel. Colonel Lindsey 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:54.920 thinks the video is misguided. 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:56.480 I think he's being kind there. 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:01.880 Here's what the colonel wrote in Military dot Com about this, 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:06.400 and I'm quoting him. Service members are not blank slates 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.760 waiting to be told what is right. They do not 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:14.959 drift through their careers, unaware of the law or uncertain 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.559 of the boundaries of their authority. So when a video 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:23.040 implies that service members need public reminders to uphold the law, 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:28.640 it misses the reality of the situation, that is that 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:34.199 service members must practice lawful decision making on a daily basis, 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:38.640 not because someone tells them to, but because it is 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.680 who they are expected to be. 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.120 I think that's a long way of saying, we don't 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:45.560 need this. 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.199 We don't need it, Democrats, you don't know what in 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:49.880 the hell you're talking about. 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:51.160 We don't need this. 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.600 And let's just for a second here, let's talk about 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:58.880 the oath of enlistment that every service member takes. 0:10:58.600 --> 0:10:59.600 When they enlist. 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:04.480 The Oath of Enlistment again, sworn by everyone who joins 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:09.240 the military states. They and I am quoting here, they quote, 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:13.560 will obey the orders of the President of the United States. 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.800 Let me just read it again. Will obey the orders 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:18.760 of the President of the United States. 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:19.079 Again. 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.440 Will obey the orders of the President of the United 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:26.840 States and the orders of the officers appointed over me. 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:31.680 They're taking the oath according to the regulations and the 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:35.520 Uniform Code of Military Justice, which is the law for 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.640 every branch of the service, and we're gonna be talking 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.480 to Steve Gooden. I know you know Steve from his 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.360 many appearances on the show. He spent a long time 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:48.120 in the Army JAG as well, and we're going to ask. 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:48.640 Him about that. 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:54.280 Let me add that the UCMJA Uniform Code of Military 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:59.480 Justice also states that orders can orders do carry Listen 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:05.160 to this, the presumption of legality. Again, orders do carry 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:09.760 the presumption of legality. That's in the law, that's in 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:15.400 the UCMJ. Let me just pose this scenario just for 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:20.040 a minute here, Okay, what if Colonel Paul Tibbets and 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:21.800 you may or may not know who he is, he 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:27.360 was the pilot of the Anola Gay, the B twenty 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:31.280 nine that dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima. He was 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.880 the pilot and he had a crew of course, that 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.920 dropped the A bomb on Hiroshima. What if he woke 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:41.920 up on the morning of August sixth, nineteen forty five 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:45.880 and said, you know what, my crew and I thought 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:49.360 about it overnight and we've come to the conclusion that 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:53.040 the order to drop the A bomb is illegal and 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:57.000 we're not going to carry it out. I mean, obviously 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:00.200 that's an extreme example, but that's what we're talking talking 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:00.880 about here. 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.840 I mean, you just can't have that in the military. 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:09.959 Again, as I said, the Uniform Code of Military Justice 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:15.000 states that quote, orders carry the presumption of legality, orders 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:19.199 carry the presumption of legality. One more time, orders carry 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:23.720 the presumption of legality. So, just to sum it up, 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:28.240 the top democrats in this country are telling service members 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.559 not to follow the orders of the President of the 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:32.960 United States. 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:34.400 Their commander in chief. 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.120 That's what we've come to in the year twenty twenty 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:41.440 five in this country. And it's sad and it makes 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:46.880 me angry. There has to be consequences for this. Let 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.840 me just close by saying this, I really do wonder 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.520 what is next with these people. You just don't know 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.240 what's coming next. I think this is going to blow 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.360 up in their face. Trump seems gung ho to do 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:03.560 something about it. You just can't have it anyway, That's 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.200 what I think. I want to know what you think. 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.080 Seven four nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred. The big 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:12.200 one are the numbers. Mike Allen, Saturday midday, all right, 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.600 I get to the callers, and we got a good 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.720 number of them this morning. Just one quick announcement. I 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:21.680 want to say this congratulations to the Saint Xavier Bombers. 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:26.240 They beat my beloved Elder Panthers last night at pay 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:29.480 Course Stadium. A lot of my buddies went and talked 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:33.800 to them afterwards. Heck of a game, man. Elder was 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:37.080 up I don't know twenty something points and Saint. 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:38.400 X came roaring back. 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:43.400 Good luck to the Bombers as they proceed hopefully to 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:47.160 the state championship and win that. You know, my deal is, 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.320 if it can't be Elder, I wanted to be a 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:54.080 GCL team. So again, congratulations to the Saint X Bombers 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.480 for a hell of a game last night. All right, 0:14:56.560 --> 0:15:01.240 let's get back to business here. Let's talk to Joey. Hey, Joey, 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.280 good morning, Good morning, Mike, how are you today? 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:04.680 Good? 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:05.040 Good? 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:05.920 What you got for me? 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:10.520 Well, a couple of things I'd like to touch on briefly. 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:15.640 One with this military stuff. It's just completely. 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.680 Unacceptable and something. 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.960 Needs to be done about these things that just continue 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:21.880 to go on. It really does. There's got to be 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:25.680 consequences for your actions. And ultimately, all they're trying to 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:29.240 do is what they do with everything else. All they're 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:32.880 trying to do is divide the military and create chaos. 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:36.920 And they will. They will, because what they're gonna do 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:40.240 is they'll scout and recruit a couple poster boys or 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.560 girls in the military. They'll come forward, they'll be on 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:44.440 the news. 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:45.560 They'll make a stink out of it. 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.800 And they're trying to can't create chaos in the military. 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.520 All they would love more than anything is some big 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:55.160 bass with protests outside of it. All the other idiots 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:58.880 showing up, all the other paid morons showing up. Throw 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.240 Antiitha in there, create a team. That's what they want. 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.920 And they should all be really asham in themselves. And 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.360 I hope they're damned by God, and I'm sure he's 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:11.520 watching and has had enough of this crap. That is 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:14.400 the ultimate goal. That's what they want to do. And 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.080 they've divided our families. 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:16.960 They have. 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.840 They have divided our families, they divided our schools. They 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:25.040 brain morse and indoctrinated people, and now they're going after 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:27.720 the military and love nothing more to say, Oh look 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:31.360 what Trump did again. That's that's all they want. It's disgusting. 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:32.480 And the other thing. 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:34.800 I'd like to touch on real quick is I think 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:40.360 mister Trump made a mistake, man, Marjorie Tareley gree calling 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:44.200 her out and cut his mouth off, frankly, And I'm 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:48.200 on his side. Connor a trader, man, that is one 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:55.120 strong out of an ordinary woman. She resigned last night. 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:56.040 I heard that. 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.920 Yeah, so he. 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:05.560 Needs to somehow amend this. That's one strong woman. If 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:10.119 anybody's watching any interviews with her with moron interviewers in 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:13.720 hallways or in any of the hearings or anything that 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:18.600 goes on, that's one bad woman. That's really intelligent, very smart, 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:24.479 and she has been an outstanding, pitfull staunch supporter of 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:28.680 Donald Trump. And you know she's gonna throw knockout punches. 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.919 She's not going to walk away. And I think he 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.000 needs to do something about that. He jumped the gun 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.680 on her, and I'm always on his side, don't get 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:38.879 me wrong, But man, he shouldn't have called her a 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.840 trader and called her out. She resigned, and that's just 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.200 one strong woman. He made a mistake there. 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:45.080 Yeah, you can't. 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:49.320 You can't call someone a trader unless you're talking about 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:51.679 these six congress people. 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.720 I think you know in many ways that they are. 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.200 But I don't know what her deal is she seems 0:17:57.240 --> 0:18:02.160 to be a you know what stir but it's he's 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:06.520 and you know, unlike a liberal. I and you, by 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:10.919 what you just said, are not afraid to criticize people 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.600 on our team. And the top guy on our team 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:17.840 that would be President Trump. He sometimes just takes it 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.960 too far. It's like he can't help himself. 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:22.560 Yeah. 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.640 I was really sadden to see that we don't need 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:28.040 dissension in our ranks. 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:31.760 Yeah, I mean, you know, And she went on the 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:36.800 View and she didn't really do anything. I think she's trustworthy. 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:40.840 I think he's jumped the gun. You know, the women 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:44.000 in the View, she could destroy them for crying out 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:46.760 loud yep. I just think he I think he's jumped 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:47.160 the gun. 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:48.159 He should have. 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.600 Backed up a little bit, because, man, I'm telling you, 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:55.760 I really like her, even under these circumstances. That is 0:18:55.920 --> 0:19:00.560 one strong, bad woman. There's a lot of guys or 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:02.640 anybody in there that can't hold a stick to her. 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:05.840 And if anybody out there has listened to don't believe me, 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:09.240 just search her being stopped in the hallways of Congress 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:14.280 talking to these idiots. She destroys them. And she has 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:17.560 been an outstanding support over his I think he's made 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:20.480 a mistake there and he needs to somehow. I don't 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:23.560 know what he can do. But man, you know she resigned, 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:25.440 so that speaks well, yeah. 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.719 It does, it does. I appreciate you. 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:31.120 I appreciate you filling us in on that, Joey, Yes, 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.160 really do thank you for the call. Yeah, I don't 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.160 get that that kind of came out of the blue. 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:38.600 I didn't really pay a whole lot of attention to her. 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:38.920 Now. 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:43.760 I do know that Trump was or maybe did find 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:47.000 a Republican to run in the primary against her, So 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:52.119 who knows. Let them the Democrats have their dissension and 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:56.439 their confusion and all of their nonsense. We don't need it. 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:59.760 We're getting a job done. Hey, let's talk to Ray 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:03.320 on west side. He says, I'm missing one important fact. 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:04.040 What is that? 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:04.320 Ray? 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:05.960 How are you doing? And thanks for calling. 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:08.040 I haven't checked. 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:11.800 How many of these people have any reserve active status 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:12.399 right now? 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:13.119 What people? 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:18.840 The people of the sixth Oh, turnaround and. 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:20.240 You know what people? 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:21.760 Good question. I don't know. 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:22.240 Now. 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:27.480 I have always respected Senator Mark Kelly's prior service. I 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:30.440 think he went pretty high up the rest of them, 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:34.119 I don't know. There was one of them that they say, well, 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:36.160 you know, she had intelligence experience. 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:37.960 I don't know the answer to that question. 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:41.240 One thing I do know is Lindsey Graham's got about 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:44.560 thirty years in the JAG and he is on this 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:45.800 like white on Rice. 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:49.600 Well, Kelly is an astronaut. 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:50.080 I know. 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.520 He's not on any reserve status. The point that I'm 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:58.000 getting at is they're not subject to the UCMJ. 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:01.400 Yes, they are in ten years in the reserves. 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:05.920 Ray they are. I mean, and I'll ask Steve Gooden 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:07.680 even if you're out about that. 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:09.320 That's why I was going to say, it's a question 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:12.440 for Steve, right, and I'll ask him. 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:14.359 I mean, you know, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong about that, 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:17.800 but we were. We were always under the assumption that 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:20.800 it applied to us. And you know what, it doesn't 0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:25.240 matter what they are. I mean, they're telling active duty soldiers, 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:29.480 sailors and marines to if they don't like the law, 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:32.520 then they're not going to obey it, ignore the order 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:34.800 if they think it's wrong. 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:37.639 And we can't have that in the military. 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:40.880 No, no, no, you absolutely cannot have it. But I 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:43.560 only bring it up in the fact that if they're 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:46.919 out because most people don't understand the difference between the 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:53.160 UCMJ versus regular civilian. True, and you do, okay, and 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:57.719 Steve certainly does. But if they're already out, they do 0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:01.560 not carry any active you know, in active reserve status. 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:05.400 They're allowed to run their mouths even if they're stupid. Well, 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:07.040 and they're definitely stupid. 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:07.440 I mean. 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:13.359 The closest thing is that they're endorsing fragging, which obviously, yeah, 0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:16.720 you know is and no, no, but but most people 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:18.280 don't even know what fragging is. 0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:27.720 Yeah, it's not good, especially now if you're exactly and 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:31.240 some of that I understand happened in Vietnam, which which 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:32.080 is a shame. 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:32.679 But very much so. 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:35.639 I think what they're talking about, or what I'm talking 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:39.399 about with these six Democrats is not any kind of 0:22:39.840 --> 0:22:44.520 military action against them, some type of political I don't 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:48.679 want to say, payback political consequences to what they're doing. 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:53.199 My god, I mean, that's kind of the military is 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:56.440 the holiest of holies, and you don't play games with them. 0:22:56.880 --> 0:23:00.320 And you know, and even though like I said, you 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:03.680 respect that, you understand the concept of no, you don't 0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:07.119 run your mouth like this. They're pushing their luck just 0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:08.600 in terms of pr level. 0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:09.000 Sure. 0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:13.560 And by the way, before I forget the guy that 0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:17.080 was on before, when he's talking about the lady from Georgia. Yeah, 0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:20.280 Trump really should suck up to her. 0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:23.800 I don't get it, man. Why was he so mad. 0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:27.560 At her because of the fact that she was pushing 0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:31.760 and put him into a corner on the Epstein stuff? 0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:35.439 Oh that's right, you know what. I'm so sick of 0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:36.560 hearing about Epstein. 0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:41.119 Well, everybody is, and he was too, because he looked 0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:46.359 at it as a big, time consuming, non productive thing. 0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:49.919 But he should not get rid of when he's got 0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:53.560 a low margins already and he's got the New York 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:57.359 lady's going to leave. He's putting the Speaker of the 0:23:57.400 --> 0:23:59.080 House in a really bad position. 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:02.400 Did hear that this morning that the speaker didn't even 0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:03.200 know what was coming? 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:04.760 What? 0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:07.320 What's the Do you know what the governor of Georgia 0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:08.960 is Republican or Democrat? 0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:12.840 I'm I believe he's Republican. I just and Trump got 0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:14.680 into it with him at some point too. 0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:18.280 I don't remember that was that was a long time ago. 0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:20.800 My point is it was he's really got a bank 0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:24.760 on him. If he's going to replace her, yep. Trust's 0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:27.680 best best bat would be to turn around and suck 0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:29.320 up to this lady in a big way. 0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:32.840 Well, that ain't in his DNA, but I think you're 0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:33.720 probably right. 0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:37.399 About it is a no, no, it's not in his 0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:41.880 DNA unless it's worthy of making money, which is effectively 0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:42.840 making a deal. 0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:46.680 Yeah, well, in the DNA. 0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:49.560 We shall see. I appreciate your point of view, Ray, 0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:50.960 and thank you for calling. 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:53.840 But no, check on check on the active duties as 0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:54.879 well as these six. 0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:58.040 I will, I will, I will ask, I'll make a note. 0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:00.440 I'm gonna ask Steve Gooden Damn. 0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:02.200 Well, yeah, Steve's gonna know best. 0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:04.919 Yep, all right, thanks Ray, I appreciate it. 0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:08.480 Yeah, I will ask Steve that I spent ten years 0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:12.200 at the fighting one thirty fifth JAG Detachment. I think 0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:15.720 Steve spent a little bit more time than I did, 0:25:15.880 --> 0:25:19.280 and he came after me, so he's more current on stuff. Hey, 0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:23.479 let's talk to Ransom in Columbus. Hey, Ransom, what do 0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:24.679 you think about the video? 0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:29.720 Well, I've always been doing something about it. I've already 0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:34.040 called two two two two four thirty one twenty one. 0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:38.680 I've called Speaker Johnson's house. I've well, his office, I've 0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:43.440 called chip Boy, and I've also called speaker I mean 0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:48.919 a majority leader soon in a Senate. You and I 0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:52.879 both know that politically, these guys are never going to 0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:56.080 go to jail for being sis or anything else. But 0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:59.240 here's something we can do. Since you and I and 0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:02.720 the rest of your listeners are the employers of all 0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:08.320 these politicians and they're asking and they also have military situations, 0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:12.199 so they're probably double dipping. They're probably getting pension on 0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:14.960 the military side and also on the political side. 0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:15.600 Uh. 0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:20.920 My recommendation to Speaker Johnson and also the President and 0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:27.639 also soon is that we suspend permanently their pensions for 0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:31.720 seditious acts. Then you're setting that you're setting an example 0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.719 to all the other politicians who are looking forward at 0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:37.679 gravy train when they get out of politics, are out 0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:40.400 of the military, and they'll watch their mouth the next 0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:43.600 time they spout off about trying to be seditious to 0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:48.080 this president, because this doesn't just affect this president. This 0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:50.920 can affect a democratic president down the road too. 0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:58.840 No question, no question of the pension situation. 0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:03.000 That's pretty drastic, but this does call for drastic response. 0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:06.399 I think, yeah, Well, if you if you could just 0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:10.200 push that all day. Ask Steve about that too. If 0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:12.800 we can make that happen, you have a very large audience. 0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:17.119 And if we flood the switchboard there in d C 0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:21.840 and say hey, speaker Johnson, speaker, thun uh, it's it's come. 0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:25.080 The blows come to blow. And we know that money talks. 0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:29.080 And they may not serve any time criminally, but civilly, 0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:33.000 they have wounded our country by the seditious Act. They 0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:35.919 don't deserve to have the money that the American people 0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:39.879 pay for their pensions, either military or politically. And I 0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.639 say take it away from them, and then watch the 0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:45.919 change of all the politicians and all the military people 0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:48.760 if they know they're going to lose their because this 0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:52.080 is this. Let's face it, Mike, it's make America great. 0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:56.040 Let's make it a great country again. And sometimes you 0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.760 got to get your big boy pants on, and like 0:27:58.840 --> 0:27:59.920 you said, you got to, you gotta. 0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:00.440 I'm back. 0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:05.199 I appreciate you, man, God bless you. And hope that thousands, 0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:09.720 if not tens of thousands of Ohioans will call the 0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:13.440 switchboard and force this through. And if they just get 0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:18.840 one one of these six Democrats, they take the pensions away. Uh, 0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:21.120 big changes are coming to Washington. 0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:25.080 I hear you. Okay, Ramsey, thanks for the call. You know, 0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:28.879 I mean, that's an idea. It has to be some 0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:30.960 kind there has to be some kind of sanction, and 0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:34.680 it has to be serious. This is George Bush used 0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:38.840 to say, this cannot stand. It just can't stand. We 0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:42.680 can't have this, you know, the Biden administration. As far 0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.200 as the military goes in again, I would remind people 0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:47.760 that enlistments are through the roof. 0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:49.000 Gee. 0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:51.680 It's kind of it's kind of funny how it happened 0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:56.040 pretty much coincided with Biden leaving office and Trump coming in. 0:28:56.360 --> 0:29:00.880 But anyway, Biden was all concerned about DEI in the military, 0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:04.000 had one of his generals saying, well, you know, I'm 0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:05.959 going to learn about white rage. 0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:07.880 I think it's important Trump. 0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:12.120 Threw that crapout and through Secretary of Defense, Secretary of 0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:15.840 War heg Seth is getting away from that they already 0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:20.320 have and focusing the mission on what the military is 0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:23.479 supposed to do, which is kill people and break stuff. 0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:25.680 You know, whether you like it or not, that's what 0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:29.760 it is. Hey, let's talk to Bobby J. Hey, Bobby J. 0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:34.360 Good morning, Good morning to you, my friend, appreciate everything 0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:36.920 you do as always. Well, I've got a couple of 0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:39.320 things I'd like to mention. Yeah, you know, as a 0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:39.880 follow up. 0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:42.080 Well, let me let me ask you first though, what 0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:46.280 do you think about this whole situation with the Democrats 0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:49.000 telling the soldiers to violate their orders. 0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.880 Well, they're anarchist number one, yep. 0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:56.560 And we all know what subversive and seditious acts are, 0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:59.240 so there you go with that. Yeah, but they're part 0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:03.200 of the splinter groups that are soft coup, soft coop 0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:06.440 data And we've talked about culture revolutions. 0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:07.240 And everything that we're in the middle of. 0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.040 But it all has to do with the media also 0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:14.240 that promote these people when they put that videos out 0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:17.040 and everything. Look who picked them up right off the bat. 0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:20.200 Oh yeah, affiliates picked him up. And you're doing the 0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:22.880 right thing, Mike, And I tell you what they come 0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:26.200 after people like you that tell it the way it is. 0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:28.640 Well, you know what, that's what have about it, guys, 0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:29.720 If that's what you want to. 0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:32.920 Do, well, I'll give you an example. That's why Rachel 0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:37.720 Maddow advertised on your segments for m This NBC. 0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:39.440 You're doing the right. 0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:41.840 Thing well, and you know what, I don't have any 0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:44.280 doubt about that, and I appreciate your vote of confidence, 0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:48.040 Bobby Jay, I really do. I just think, you know, 0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:51.800 Lawfair's one thing was bad enough, and they started it 0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:54.800 and they're getting paid back. Just the way it is 0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:58.520 in politics. This ramps it up even further than that. 0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:04.240 The milk terry is doing very well under President Trump's leadership. 0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:08.920 They don't need a bunch of liberal Democrats telling soldiers, 0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:11.480 sailors and marines that hey, if they don't think the 0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:14.640 order's right, they're not going to obey it. And I 0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.880 will say again, and I'm gonna hit this with Steve 0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:22.520 Gooden too. Orders are presumed to be legal. I mean 0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:26.200 that's in the UCMJ. So I guess we'll have to 0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:28.760 see what happens. But it's we can't have this. 0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:30.280 Well. 0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:33.040 We appreciate everything you do, my friend. And it goes 0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:35.280 all the way back to these splinter groups. You shoot 0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:37.640 one hundred arrows, two of three is going to stick 0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:39.600 YEP and a lot of things they don't want to 0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.560 talk about. It's no different than going ahead and pointing 0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:45.360 out who the DNC pipe bomber was and all the 0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:48.520 people that are affiliated with that from the Secret Service 0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:51.520 and the Capitol Police and everything else. You know, they 0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:54.200 only got so many people in the Justice Department. They 0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:57.320 don't have enough to fulfill the obligations that we need. 0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:01.000 Good point, Bobby Jay has always appreciates your call, really do, 0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:02.719 and thank you for your kind words. 0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:04.040 Thank you. 0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:07.480 All right, well, listen, we are out of time for 0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:10.239 this segment. When we get back from the news, We're 0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:13.600 going to talk to Christopher Smithman. Obviously a'all know Christopher. 0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:16.880 Unfortunately he did not it was not successful in getting 0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:19.440 back on council. But I sure hope that young man 0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:22.520 isn't done and he is going to continue. I asked him, 0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:26.200 he's going to continue giving us a political commentary. His 0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:32.360 uh political instincts and knowledge are incredibly on point, and 0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:34.520 uh he's always got something to say. 0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.560 We'll talk to Christopher when we get back. 0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:40.440 Just wanted to tell you too, have another open segment 0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:43.480 ten thirty two eleven, So if you want to call 0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:47.000 uh while Christopher's talking five one three, two four one 0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:50.239 two of two, three seven four nine, seven thousand, one 0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:53.080 eight hundred The big one are the numbers. Mike Allen 0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:01.600 News Radio seven hundred wl W Mike Allen with our 0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:06.880 two of Saturday Midday Switching gears here a little bit. 0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:09.920 Christopher Smithman, a good friend of this show, good friend 0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:13.160 of mine, did not make it back to city council. 0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:16.959 I just breaks my heart, and I and many others 0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:18.880 thought he had a heck of a good chance. I mean, 0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:24.600 this just demonstrates, and the numbers demonstrate that I don't 0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:29.480 know that there will be another non Democrat ever elected 0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.560 to mayor or city council. 0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:34.720 And you got to hand it to the Democrats. 0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:37.240 I think they got their people out a heck of 0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:39.880 a lot more than we did. But at any rate, 0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:42.480 here to talk about that and many other things is 0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:44.160 our good friend, Christopher Smithman. 0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:46.720 Christopher, thanks so much for calling in this morning. 0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:51.680 Oh thanks, thanks for having me on. Always glad to 0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:55.960 hear your voice. And I'm glad that you view me 0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:57.800 as a friend and a friend of your show. 0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:02.080 Absolutely and I'm so glad that you're cool with staying 0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:05.960 on as a commentator because you bring a really good perspective. 0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:10.160 But let me ask you first. I don't know if 0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:13.040 you had prior military or not, it doesn't matter, but 0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:18.279 what do you think about these six Democrats telling our 0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:22.200 young men and women in the service that they don't 0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:25.439 have to obey orders if they don't want to, because 0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:27.080 in essence, that's what they're saying. 0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:28.560 What do you think about. 0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:33.520 That, Well, my father served in the Army. One of 0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:38.120 my older brothers served in the Air Force. Because my 0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:42.759 mother only has had one brother, I only have four 0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:45.920 first cousins, this is important. And he just retired as 0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.719 a colonel in the Army. And my own seven my 0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:53.800 own son is serving in the Air Force. So my 0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:58.640 answer is to you very clearly, is that the men 0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:02.360 and women who did that video, really we're undermining the 0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:07.640 United States military and CIA yea, and undermining our country, 0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:11.080 undermining our country. And I hope that if there's anybody 0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:14.520 out there listening who's serving, that they ignore that it 0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:18.719 would put them in a perilous situation to ignore a 0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:24.200 direct order from from a superior in the military or CIA. Exactly, 0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:26.760 it was almost as if they were trying to plant 0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:33.279 the seeds of not not just you can ignore orders, 0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:37.359 but a seed that you might we might decide that 0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:39.799 we're going to take over the government. Are we're going 0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.200 to take over here? You just don't know how far 0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:44.799 they were going with it, but you and I know 0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:51.160 that you cannot have a military or CIA and and 0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:53.880 have people believing that they can ignore orders. 0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:55.320 You can't. 0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:58.920 I mean, that's what the military is based on, you know, 0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:03.120 officers or or lower ranking or higher ranking people giving 0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:05.880 orders to lower ranking people. You know, It's been that 0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:09.719 way since the Roman Centurions, I believe, and you have 0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:13.000 to have that for the military to function properly. And 0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:16.719 I made the point Christopher, when Biden went out and 0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:21.839 Trump came in, enlistments in every branch of the service just. 0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:23.160 Went through the roof. 0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:26.719 And I don't know, it's I just would love to 0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:30.520 know what the average soldier thinks about this, but many 0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:33.160 of them will not speak out. It'll be retired people, 0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:38.759 retired service members that will but a bad, bad precedent 0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:40.160 for our country. 0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:41.480 I wanted to ask you to. 0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:44.440 Go ahead and let me add let me add another 0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:49.000 piece to that. Shres why so many Democrats has said 0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:55.200 to me that the Democratic Party left me this sense 0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:59.360 that they don't even recognize the Democratic Party. So you know, 0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:01.880 this is a game, and these steps in this direction, 0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:07.560 this hard left mentality, meaning meaning having a strong military, 0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:13.200 having a strong CIA, having a strong border, having a 0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:18.479 strong local police division office, having a strong firefighter, having 0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:22.560 a strong prosecutor. All these things should be nonpartisan. I mean, 0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:25.360 if you just want to have an orderly society and 0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:27.440 want to be safe, all the things that I said, 0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:30.359 the first people listening to you should be nodding their 0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:33.000 heads going. All of that makes sense to me. So 0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:37.040 why has the Democratic Party gone so left, Mike Allen 0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:41.279 that they would say, hey, we're going to some congressional 0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:46.440 members can put out a video articulating to the military. 0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:51.160 They can now ignore orders. It's so far left that 0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:52.560 it's almost unbelievable. 0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:56.040 As Ronald Reagan used to say, it's so far left 0:37:56.239 --> 0:38:00.120 it left the country. You just can't have this. There 0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:03.480 has to be consequences of this. There has to be 0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:07.160 people have to be held accountable, you know, And I 0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:09.040 really do sit here. I know, I say it all 0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:12.200 the time, but I said her and think, well, what's next? 0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:14.920 Because I didn't see this coming. I don't think anybody 0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:19.560 else did. It's just it borders on anarchy. And I 0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:22.280 guess we'll see what they have in store next. 0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:24.000 But hey, can I ask you about the gun? 0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:27.200 And Mike, let me just give a first second on 0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:28.760 a piece of it. 0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:29.640 Take a much time. 0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:34.640 As the other piece that frustrates me is when President 0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:39.200 Donald Trump puts his foot in his mouth, So how 0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:42.840 he responds to this as the president matters to me 0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:48.799 and so he he just seems to lack discipline sometimes. Yeah, 0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:54.239 meaning if there's any commentary around killing them or hanging them, 0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:56.759 I'm not saying there is. I don't know what he 0:38:56.960 --> 0:39:00.080 meant by his words, but I guarantee you that the 0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:04.560 people that are around him, they get very frustrated because 0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:06.520 of some of the language he uses. They are people 0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:10.520 that really like his public policy, but they dislike his 0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:13.960 language and how he gets things done. And so you know, 0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:16.280 as I was out there campaigning and talking to people, 0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:21.279 people who were Republicans, right, who are work articulating this 0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:24.319 to me? And so somebody, if a caller, if one 0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:27.000 of you're listening, audience, you're outors listening to me right now? 0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:31.200 You know how the president conducts himself in the world 0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:37.040 and domestically matter, right, And so we want class. And 0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:40.120 so what I would ask is those people who support 0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:44.319 to the hard President Donald Trump, that be willing to 0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:48.080 call him out when it's necessary, like, don't be so 0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:51.000 partisan that we can talk about the left, but we 0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:54.399 also have to spend time talking about the right. And 0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:58.160 so there are things that President Donald Trump says verbally 0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:03.319 that concern independence like me and wish that he would 0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:07.480 find better ways in his words of conducting himself on 0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:08.719 the national stage. 0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:13.240 Very well put Christopher and unlike liberals, I'm not afraid 0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:16.880 and you're not afraid to criticize members of our party 0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:20.320 and the member who's the most important, the president. 0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:21.120 And I agree with you. 0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:24.440 I don't know why sometimes he says the things that 0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:27.120 he does. I had a very good friend of the show. 0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:28.560 I'm not going to read it now. I'm going to 0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:32.480 read it during the ten thirty slot. Text me what 0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:36.040 he had to say yesterday about Marjorie Taylor Green and 0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:38.520 I don't know what the deal with those two are, 0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:40.439 but it's just it's over the line. 0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:41.160 We don't need it. 0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:44.799 He did that thing yesterday with Mondami, which you know, 0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:47.840 I don't agree with the damn thing he says Mondamie, 0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:51.279 and I know the President does either, But I mean, 0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:53.520 I have to admit it was kind of nice. 0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:55.239 It was in the Oval office. 0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:59.640 Trump spoke, they spoke, they were collegial, and I think 0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:01.759 people want and need to see that. 0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:07.000 Yes, yes, it's so. It's so important in politics because 0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:10.799 you know, once the election ends. You know this very well, 0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:14.040 Mike Allan, that you have to begin to govern, yep. 0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:18.600 And when you're governing, you're governing differently than when you're 0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.759 running for office. And there's some politicians who do not 0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:26.439 understand the difference between those two things. So whatever's going 0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:31.399 on with the congresswoman, right, she deserved to say that 0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:35.080 she wanted the Epstein files released. By the way, I 0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:38.560 want the f Stein files released. It's also fair to 0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:43.040 say that President Biden could have released during his four 0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:46.560 year term. And the Democrats who are making a big 0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:49.960 deal about this and acting as if this is the 0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:53.839 first knowledge, not that the previous administration failed to do 0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:57.000 what they're asking this administrati stration to do and have 0:41:57.160 --> 0:42:00.920 done now, right, is also a farce. The reality of 0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:03.960 it is people in the middle want to see. Do 0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:08.160 we have pedophiles among us? Right? Are these people flying 0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:11.439 out to an island having sex with twelve year olds 0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:14.320 and thirteen year olds? And I would say it's probably 0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:19.000 the biggest scandal next to I won't say, but next 0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:20.919 to some other things that I've seen. Let's just say 0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:24.600 that this is a big scandal and we need to 0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:29.719 understand what happened to see Congressman Crockett go on the 0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:34.319 floor of Congress and imply that a former member or 0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:40.360 somebody in the cabinet of the President received donations from Epstein, 0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:43.640 And the reality of it was it was doctor Epstein, 0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:46.680 a totally different Epstein, just like there are other Alan's 0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:49.880 out there, there are other Smithmen's out there, and she 0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:54.080 didn't do the due diligence to understand smearing that doctor's name, 0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:57.000 who was a physician, spearing the person who she was 0:42:57.040 --> 0:42:59.759 talking about, smearing his name, which I don't want to 0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:02.960 reiterate and keep it going, but the reality of it is, 0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:06.120 we have these people in Congress who are so far 0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:09.840 left and even when they're found to be wrong, meaning 0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:12.600 she now knows that what she said in the will, 0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:15.600 meaning on the floor of Congress, which is supposed to 0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:19.120 be a fake red place, that what she articulated was 0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:22.440 absolutely wrong, and still, as you and I are talking, 0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:26.680 she's unwilling to go and apologize. This kind of civility 0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:31.319 is missing in our elected officials, and it's up to 0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:34.560 the people to demand it. The problem is is that 0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:38.120 there are people out here who are adopting this extreme behavior. 0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:41.160 They'll walk up to me while I'm eating lunch and 0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:43.839 try to cust me out. You know, They'll walk up 0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:46.440 to me and I'm with my daughter and try to 0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:49.720 talk crazy to me in front of my child. People 0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:53.800 have to have basic boundaries, Mike Allen, and if we don't, 0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:56.080 we're going to move this country in a place that we. 0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:57.920 Don't want it, no question about it. 0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:01.720 There has to be some return to so ability, somehow, 0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:04.319 some way. And you know, I'm probably gonna get some 0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:07.480 grief from people about saying that, about that visit at 0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:12.439 the White House with Mondamie and Trump, But again, he's 0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:17.080 a democratic socialist, He's a socialist, a borderline communist. I 0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:19.720 don't think anything that he says is going to work. 0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:22.960 But just the fact that he's in the White House 0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:27.680 talking to President Trump and they were collegial with each other, 0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:31.000 that's a good thing. And boy, at some point, I 0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:33.359 hope we returned to it. But I really did want 0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:36.200 to ask you on the government shutdown. I wanted to 0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:38.560 ask you what you feel the aftermath of that is 0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:41.439 because I'll tell you, Christopher, I looked before the show 0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:45.600 last week for some poll numbers as to who is 0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:49.799 getting the blame for this thing, because Republicans, not by 0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:52.840 a lot, but by a decent margin, were being blamed 0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:56.640 more than Democrats. I haven't had a chance to look recently, 0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:59.560 but just wanted to get your thoughts on that. 0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:03.880 Well, let me say that it is it would be 0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:05.880 a lie to say that. 0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:11.359 The Republicans shut the government down. The people who shut the. 0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:15.239 Government down were the Democrats, and there might have been 0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:18.440 fifteen votes that gave them many opportunities to open up 0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:20.879 the government. There were a handful of three or four 0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:22.880 Democrats who constantly voted in favor. 0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:23.480 One was. 0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:29.920 The senator out of Pennsylvania. But the point is that 0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:35.640 this misinformation, meaning the Democrats continue to repeat over and 0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:37.799 over and over and over again every other day on 0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:41.080 press conference that the Republicans that were the ones that 0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:43.480 were shutting the government down, and there are people out 0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:47.000 there that just believe it because CNN and THENBC they 0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:50.520 continue to repeat the same nonsense. The reality of it 0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:53.319 is is that the Democrats decided that they wanted to 0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:57.600 impact local election and statewide elections. The governor's run in 0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:00.520 Virginia and the local elections they hold. They held a 0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:04.879 King's March. All of these things were strategies to wake 0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:07.799 up what they would call their base and get them 0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:12.120 to participate in the political process, and they successfully did that. 0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:16.760 And so there was a lot of Democrats who walked 0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:19.360 in said I don't care what your political affiliation. I 0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:21.360 don't care who you are, I don't care what you 0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:23.960 stand for, and if you're not a Democrat, I'm not 0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:29.560 voting for you. And Conservatives and Republicans in Cincinnati who 0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:32.040 didn't show up in those might be listening to this 0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:34.399 have to understand that they are a part of that. 0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:37.319 You're part of the problem. Anybody who doesn't show up 0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:40.680 and participate but has an opinion about the election is 0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:43.399 a part of the problem. We have to understand that 0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:46.520 there's an election in twenty twenty six. Locally, we've got 0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:50.040 Winkler on the ballot over a probate court. We've got 0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:53.640 Leah dencin Locker, she's running for common Sees. We've got 0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:56.480 a governor's race. I do not want to live in 0:46:56.520 --> 0:47:00.400 a county or a city or a state where the 0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:05.440 one party is running everything. That is bad for everybody. 0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:08.840 And so I can tell you right now I'm supporting Winkler. 0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:13.680 I'm supporting Leah dinkin Locker and I'm supporting the veck Rabaswami. 0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:18.480 I want diversity like anything else. I want diversity of views, 0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:22.440 I want diversity of gender, I want diversity of ideas. 0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:26.680 These things make our state and our county and our Congress. 0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:31.560 It makes things stronger, not weaker. I'm really concerned that 0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:35.520 Hamilton County, that the city of Cincinnati has moved so 0:47:35.760 --> 0:47:38.760 far left that what we're going to end up having 0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:45.840 are higher taxes, bigger street cars, bigger development, less infrastructure, 0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:49.799 less police, less fire. Not good for the citizens of 0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:50.960 Cincinnati or our county. 0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:53.600 I'm really concerned about the direction of our county right now. 0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:56.680 Yeah, I am too. I mean, you know, Republicans ruled 0:47:56.680 --> 0:47:59.960 the roofs for a long time, but there were Democrats 0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:04.239 that cracked that barrier and Democrat judges. Not a lot 0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:08.360 some Democrat elected officials. Dusty Rhodes comes to mind, but 0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:11.800 there are other Dusty, of course, was a conservative Democrat. 0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:14.919 But man, I mean, we're getting skunked on this thing. 0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:16.839 Got about a minute and a half left. I wanted 0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:20.320 to ask you about it. I did not see exactly 0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:23.040 what the percentage of voters in the city of Cincinnati 0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:26.120 came out and vote, but it was awful, and the 0:48:26.200 --> 0:48:31.040 D's got their people out, but Republicans and Independents didn't 0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:32.040 seem to show up. 0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:34.880 Yeah, well I lost. 0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:39.120 Part of putting your name on the ballot is you 0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:41.960 take the risk of losing. And this is a winner 0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:46.319 take off system, you know. Bottom line, I appreciate all 0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:49.440 the voters who cast votes and voted for me, and 0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:53.239 I appreciate those who didn't vote for me. I want 0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:56.080 people to participate in the process, and I think at 0:48:56.120 --> 0:48:59.680 the end of the day, democracy, whether it's an informed 0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:04.000 voter or not, democracy rules. That's what concerns me about 0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:07.560 where we started our conversation, when you have Congressional members 0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:10.040 who are trying to indicate to our CIA and our 0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:13.480 military not to listen to direct order. So I respect 0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:16.360 the outcome of the election. I'll be back in some 0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:19.839 kind of way. Politically, I'm not out. I'm an appointee 0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:22.560 of the governor right now to the casino board. There 0:49:22.600 --> 0:49:25.359 are lots of things that I'll weigh in on. You'll 0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:28.120 hear about them coming up pretty soon. So whether my 0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:31.600 name is on the ballot, whether we're working on petition drives. 0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:35.560 Whether I'm working for a gubernatorial candidate or working for 0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:41.520 like a Winkler or a dinkin Locker to win county wide, 0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:45.040 you will see me participating, you know, in the political process. 0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:50.360 And you know, my concern is that elections have consequences. 0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:54.520 And so remember that I lost the election. The election 0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:58.439 is over, and people like Keating lost the election good 0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:00.479 and lost the election. But at the end the day, 0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:03.520 you know, for the voters, if your taxes go higher, 0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:08.200 your infrastructure stays the same, violence stays the same. We 0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:12.240 didn't improve anything, right, and so we've got to get better. 0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:12.640 Right. 0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:16.160 The elections have consequences, and I'm praying for our city 0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:17.600 and I want the best for the county. 0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:21.600 All right, Afraid, I sure appreciate you call it in and. 0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:24.720 Appreciate you so much. I appreciate you, Mike Allen. Happy 0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:25.440 Thanksgiving to. 0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:26.160 You and your family. 0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:27.200 You too, buddy, Thank you. 0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:30.000 Okay, take care, okay, all right. 0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:33.000 Christopher Smithman, he's not going anywhere. He's going to be 0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:36.520 with us periodically quite a bit. Actually, I just like 0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:38.120 the perspective that he brings. 0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:39.359 But I don't know. 0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:42.680 I hope he's not done with elective politics. But I mean, 0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:45.960 you got to be smart about it. If if it's 0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:49.480 a near impossibility, then I guess you just got to 0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:53.960 live with that. Hopefully things will change with that respect 0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:56.640 and Amont County in the city. But I ain't holding 0:50:56.640 --> 0:50:58.319 my breath. Hey, we got to take a break. But 0:50:58.360 --> 0:51:02.080 when we get back, open lines seven four nine, seven thousand, one, 0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:05.080 eight hundred. The big one are the numbers. Mike Allen 0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:12.840 Saturday Midday. Hey, we're back, Mike Allen, Saturday Midday. Gonna 0:51:12.880 --> 0:51:14.960 get to the phones in just a moment here. But 0:51:15.680 --> 0:51:18.560 there has been a lot of talk this morning about 0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:24.200 Marjorie Taylor Green and her decision announcement yesterday. I guess 0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:27.480 that she is resigning from Congress. I think it took 0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:30.400 a lot of people by surprise. She had been feuding 0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:35.960 with President Trump, and Trump well, he came out pretty 0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:41.640 strong when that notice hit. But anyway, he did put 0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:44.280 something on truth social A lot of people been asking 0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:44.719 about it. 0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:46.440 So just bear with me a second. I'm going to 0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:46.839 read it. 0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:50.880 This is what President Trump said about the whole situation 0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:56.319 with her, and I'm quoting Marjorie Trader Brown. Because of 0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:59.720 plummeting poll numbers and not wanting to face a primary 0:51:59.840 --> 0:52:03.720 check Vallenger with a strong Trump endorsement where she would 0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:07.800 have no chance of winning, has decided to call it quits. 0:52:08.160 --> 0:52:12.640 Her relationship with the worst Republican Congressman in decades, Tom 0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:17.160 Massey of Kentucky, also known as Ran Paul Jr. Because 0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:21.520 he votes against the Republican Party and really good legislation 0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:26.280 did not help her for some reason, primarily that I 0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:29.640 refused to return her never ending barrage of bad calls. 0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:35.120 Marjorie went bad. Nevertheless, I will always appreciate Marjorie and 0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:38.080 I thank her for her service to our countries. 0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:40.400 Signed President Donald DJT. 0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:41.040 Donald J. 0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:41.520 Trump. 0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:45.080 I'm very lucky on the show to have really great 0:52:45.160 --> 0:52:47.719 listeners who helped me out when I need it, and 0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:50.239 I appreciate that listener sending that to me. 0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:51.919 But I don't know. 0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:55.040 I just wish we didn't have to fight among ourselves 0:52:55.080 --> 0:52:59.319 and we didn't have that hot of rhetoric. But it 0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:02.000 is what it is. I don't know what the reason is. Uh, 0:53:02.320 --> 0:53:06.200 it's just one less Republican I guess. I guess she's 0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:10.400 from a Republican stronghold district. I don't know, but we 0:53:10.440 --> 0:53:12.960 could do without all that stuff. But again it is 0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.600 what it is as promised. Back to the phones. Let's 0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:17.520 talk to Dennis in Annapolis. 0:53:17.680 --> 0:53:21.520 Hey, good morning, Doc, Good morning, Mike. 0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:22.200 What you got. 0:53:22.280 --> 0:53:24.439 I want to make a couple of quick points here 0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:28.960 about this whole whole thing about these uh, these congress 0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:35.000 people making the comments about not following orders. And I've 0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:38.480 been long as a physician, long convinced that most of 0:53:38.520 --> 0:53:46.200 these Democrats have significant mental derangement. I made that point before, 0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:50.680 and call again, and uh, I think that Trump the 0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:54.920 agent syndrome should be included in this, in the psyche, 0:53:55.040 --> 0:53:59.960 in this the ds Yes, you got it, Agnoso Statistical 0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:03.760 Manual Mental Disorders, the d s M five, the fifth edition, 0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:07.560 which you know is a standardized It just has standardized 0:54:07.560 --> 0:54:10.399 criteria for diagnosis and classific classification. 0:54:10.520 --> 0:54:11.919 Lawyer time. 0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:15.239 Yeah right right. So so. 0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:17.799 I don't know if you caught it in a Well 0:54:17.800 --> 0:54:22.880 Street journal, but it's kind of made my point. Jonathan Albert, 0:54:22.880 --> 0:54:27.320 who's a psychotherapist in New York City wrote a big 0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:32.759 op ed about Uh. The title of it is the 0:54:32.760 --> 0:54:36.600 Trump Derangement Syndrome, an actual uh. 0:54:36.400 --> 0:54:37.400 You know disorder. 0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:38.520 I did see that, and. 0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:40.680 He did see it. 0:54:40.760 --> 0:54:42.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, yeah, it was. 0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:46.400 A great piece. Yeah, yeah, he quote him, he. 0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:48.279 Says he he first he thought it was like a 0:54:49.560 --> 0:54:54.200 Trump drained the syndrome is like an ideological reaction. But 0:54:54.239 --> 0:54:56.920 he he came to be convinced that it's, to quote him, 0:54:57.120 --> 0:55:03.720 an obsessive, which, uh, a political figure becomes the focal 0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:05.400 point for through the thoughts. 0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:09.759 Well, it's awful and it's busted up families. I can 0:55:09.800 --> 0:55:14.120 tell you that from experience, and I don't know, I mean, 0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:18.320 it's very hard to explain. But when I hit people 0:55:18.400 --> 0:55:20.520 like you and I forget who was the author of 0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:24.640 that piece saying that that that's something that ought to 0:55:24.680 --> 0:55:27.759 be considered, you know, I'm down with that. 0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:29.240 It's just it's nuts. 0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:31.680 And I'll be honest with you, I'm going through it 0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:34.680 with a family member, and it's it's heartbreaking, is what 0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:35.080 it is. 0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:37.680 It's on top of that, it's just stupid. 0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:39.400 Yeah. 0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:45.400 So coming from that, which I think, these these all 0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:49.160 these people, these Congress people who went on this video, 0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:52.640 which I'm convinced they all of them have this, Uh 0:55:52.760 --> 0:55:55.920 you know, where where was where were these where were 0:55:55.960 --> 0:56:01.000 the Democrats when they're talking about following orders? The dementia 0:56:01.080 --> 0:56:06.400 Joe Biden. You had some serious cognitive issues, you think, 0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:12.560 and our military was taking words from him. Where were they? 0:56:13.200 --> 0:56:13.399 Oh? 0:56:13.520 --> 0:56:17.840 Yeah, where the guy wasn't even capable of ordering a 0:56:17.880 --> 0:56:20.719 big macmeal and that McDonald's drive in. 0:56:21.000 --> 0:56:24.120 No, I don't mean to laugh. You're right, You're right. 0:56:24.200 --> 0:56:28.359 I mean they were nowhere to be found then. But hey, 0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:30.919 I appreciate your point of view, Doc, And I got 0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:31.960 a bunch of callers here. 0:56:32.280 --> 0:56:34.280 Okay, thank you so much. 0:56:34.520 --> 0:56:38.200 All right, all right, you know, and I did read that, 0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:40.960 and apparently there I don't think it'll happen, but there 0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:45.920 are some within the medical slash psychological community that think 0:56:46.000 --> 0:56:50.000 that it ought to be classified as a legitimate syndrome. 0:56:50.200 --> 0:56:52.680 I guess we'll have to see what happens. Hey, let's 0:56:52.719 --> 0:56:56.560 talk to let's talk to Steve Hey. Good morning, Steve. 0:56:57.600 --> 0:56:58.800 Hey, Mike, how you doing. 0:56:58.960 --> 0:56:59.439 I'm good. 0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:00.120 Well. 0:57:00.320 --> 0:57:02.480 I just want to mention something about the military. I 0:57:02.560 --> 0:57:05.279 served twenty seven years in the reserves, and I volunteered 0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:09.000 twice for Desert Storm, and then when that came along, 0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:13.000 my unit got called up and I went to the 0:57:13.120 --> 0:57:16.560 thurge and I went to the invasion. And then yesterday 0:57:16.720 --> 0:57:19.960 my daughter says to me, you know, dad, when you 0:57:20.000 --> 0:57:23.680 want to Iraq, you abandon of the family. And I said, 0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:25.720 how can you say that? 0:57:25.800 --> 0:57:26.880 She said an er nurse. 0:57:26.960 --> 0:57:30.200 I said, how can you talk like that? But this 0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:33.280 is what they're going too. People's minds today. They exist 0:57:33.360 --> 0:57:34.640 like anti military. 0:57:35.120 --> 0:57:38.080 Yeah, I know, and boy, and it starts in grade school, 0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:41.280 goes through high school, then of course into college. 0:57:41.680 --> 0:57:42.640 That's the hell of a thing. 0:57:42.680 --> 0:57:47.080 I mean that happened, has happened for a long long time, 0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:50.320 and that's one of the things that we on the 0:57:50.400 --> 0:57:54.120 sensible right, the normies have to deal with. They've been 0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:56.520 having that crap pounded in their heads for years. 0:57:57.560 --> 0:57:59.360 I just didn't know what to say. I didn't want 0:57:59.400 --> 0:58:01.920 to argue with because you know, you can't change. 0:58:01.640 --> 0:58:03.400 People's mind, especially a liberal. 0:58:04.640 --> 0:58:06.120 Yeah, I guess that's what it is. 0:58:06.800 --> 0:58:07.760 But if you get. 0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:10.400 Orders to go from the military, you just go. You 0:58:10.760 --> 0:58:12.720 don't question it, to give it to your employer and 0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:13.320 then you leave. 0:58:13.760 --> 0:58:18.920 Yep, yeah, you know it's and I'm in a similar 0:58:18.960 --> 0:58:21.800 situation with that. And you know, the way I look 0:58:21.840 --> 0:58:25.800 at it, you got you got family way way up 0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:29.360 the food chain, and you've got politics way down the 0:58:29.360 --> 0:58:33.040 food chain. What is more important? But it's what a 0:58:33.080 --> 0:58:35.120 lot of people are dealing with unfortunately. 0:58:36.080 --> 0:58:38.960 Yeah, so you've got a good show. Make we'll give 0:58:39.000 --> 0:58:39.880 a comment on it. 0:58:39.960 --> 0:58:44.280 Okay, thank you, Steve appreciate it, so, thank you. Yeah. 0:58:44.320 --> 0:58:48.280 I'd like to see it become designated as a syndrome, 0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:50.000 and I guess we'll have to see what happens. 0:58:50.120 --> 0:58:54.160 Hey, let's talk to Larry in Germantown. Hey, good morning, Larry. 0:58:54.840 --> 0:58:55.440 Good morning. 0:58:55.480 --> 0:58:56.000 How are you. 0:58:56.120 --> 0:58:57.760 I'm good, I'm good. What you got for me? 0:58:59.160 --> 0:59:04.120 Well, I thing about the punishments of our elected officials. 0:59:04.320 --> 0:59:07.480 And what I do know is like when a politician 0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:11.880 is censured, like Adam Schiff, it doesn't mean a thing. 0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:13.760 Not a thing. You know, you know what he got 0:59:13.760 --> 0:59:18.160 for his troubles. He got elected to the Senate exactly. 0:59:18.720 --> 0:59:22.360 And so you know, I'd like to hear your if 0:59:22.360 --> 0:59:23.880 you have, if you know more than. 0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:28.600 Me, about what you probably do about, say the the 0:59:28.760 --> 0:59:32.520 chain of punishment, say starting with censor, because that's nothing, 0:59:32.920 --> 0:59:35.000 and then after a censer, what is there? 0:59:35.040 --> 0:59:37.400 And then what is it? You understand what I'm asking. 0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:39.800 That's a good question. Is I sit here, I'm not 0:59:39.840 --> 0:59:42.720 really sure. I know censure is that at the lower 0:59:42.880 --> 0:59:43.320 end of it. 0:59:44.240 --> 0:59:44.640 I don't know. 0:59:44.680 --> 0:59:47.760 I'm going to look into that though, but it can't stand. 0:59:47.960 --> 0:59:50.720 It just can't stand. You can't be putting these uh, 0:59:51.240 --> 0:59:54.640 these young men and women in that situation where they, 0:59:55.680 --> 0:59:58.800 with I guess the attempted help of the Democrat Party, 0:59:59.120 --> 1:00:02.680 they decide what's a lawful order and what's not. I mean, 1:00:02.840 --> 1:00:07.520 some of it's obvious, like the Melay situation in Vietnam, 1:00:07.880 --> 1:00:11.960 that was obvious. That guy for Lieutenant Kelly. I think 1:00:11.960 --> 1:00:14.240 it was gave illegal orders. 1:00:14.240 --> 1:00:14.680 I mean, but. 1:00:16.960 --> 1:00:20.600 They're trying to get them to disobey orders because they 1:00:20.640 --> 1:00:23.800 don't like the politics of it, they being the Democrats, 1:00:23.800 --> 1:00:25.040 and we can't. 1:00:24.760 --> 1:00:26.320 Have that right. 1:00:26.360 --> 1:00:29.560 And I think they're referring to Ice probably. 1:00:29.360 --> 1:00:33.720 Of course, of course. Well, I appreciate the call, my friend. 1:00:34.680 --> 1:00:38.680 All right, thank you, Okay, thank you bye. 1:00:38.760 --> 1:00:42.840 Yeah, that's a good question. I know censure is one option. 1:00:42.960 --> 1:00:45.720 I don't think a lot of them really care if 1:00:45.760 --> 1:00:48.680 they're censured or not these days. But I will look 1:00:48.720 --> 1:00:53.000 into that. Hey, let's talk too, let's talk to Mark. 1:00:53.320 --> 1:00:53.520 Hey. 1:00:53.520 --> 1:00:54.560 Good morning, Mark. 1:00:55.520 --> 1:00:56.200 Hey, good morning. 1:00:56.240 --> 1:00:56.920 How are you today. 1:00:57.080 --> 1:00:58.840 I'm good, I'm good, which god. 1:01:00.200 --> 1:01:03.440 You know, you know, these these five, these five congress 1:01:03.480 --> 1:01:06.680 men Congress women that that that are that have come 1:01:06.680 --> 1:01:09.880 out and made those comments. I think what's really going 1:01:09.920 --> 1:01:13.320 on here They are probably five of the more moderate 1:01:13.440 --> 1:01:16.640 Democrats and you know in Congress if there is any, 1:01:18.240 --> 1:01:21.640 and I think what what's happening here is they are 1:01:21.720 --> 1:01:25.720 trying to carve a niche out for themselves here, uh 1:01:25.800 --> 1:01:28.000 and suck you know, get some of the air back 1:01:28.000 --> 1:01:30.280 in the room for them by the socialist wing of 1:01:30.320 --> 1:01:34.440 that party, and that are they're extremely far left, and 1:01:34.520 --> 1:01:37.880 I think this is their way of trying to keep 1:01:37.920 --> 1:01:40.520 them on the radar. And I think using the military 1:01:40.600 --> 1:01:42.800 as a means to do that is reprehensible. 1:01:42.920 --> 1:01:43.160 Yep. 1:01:43.440 --> 1:01:48.240 So and that's that's a good theory. But that's what 1:01:48.320 --> 1:01:51.680 I think here. I mean, especially Slotkin in Michigan and 1:01:52.280 --> 1:01:56.000 Kelly and Arizona. I mean, they're probably looking at some 1:01:56.080 --> 1:01:58.800 of the people that the leadership of that party and saying, you. 1:01:58.760 --> 1:02:01.560 Know, we're not we're not here, and they're. 1:02:01.320 --> 1:02:04.200 Looking for a way to try to elevate them back, 1:02:04.840 --> 1:02:07.680 you know, back to prominent, especially with a midterm election 1:02:07.840 --> 1:02:10.560 coming up. But I think it's a I think it's 1:02:10.720 --> 1:02:15.120 reprehensible what they're doing. And I think long term, you know, 1:02:15.200 --> 1:02:17.120 this is probably not going to be good. It might 1:02:17.200 --> 1:02:19.760 help them politically in that party, but I don't think 1:02:19.760 --> 1:02:23.560 it's going to win them any votes on the outside, 1:02:23.920 --> 1:02:26.280 you know. And as far as far as Marjorie Taylor 1:02:26.320 --> 1:02:29.240 Green goes, I think the issue with her and what 1:02:29.240 --> 1:02:32.600 what Trump is upset about is that on a lot 1:02:32.640 --> 1:02:35.960 of these core issues like the budget, you know, she 1:02:36.200 --> 1:02:39.000 just hasn't supported the president and been a thorn in 1:02:39.120 --> 1:02:42.120 his side on that, along with you know, Rand Paul 1:02:42.200 --> 1:02:45.680 to some extent, And not that they're wrong what they're 1:02:45.720 --> 1:02:48.640 trying to do, but the problem is the Republicans don't 1:02:48.680 --> 1:02:51.240 have the votes to do what they would like to do, 1:02:52.480 --> 1:02:55.080 and that's the problem. And you know, she needs to 1:02:55.160 --> 1:02:58.480 work towards getting more of the members to come her 1:02:58.560 --> 1:03:02.920 way because you know, until that happens, you know, Trump 1:03:03.000 --> 1:03:05.320 is trying to keep the coalition together and make the 1:03:05.320 --> 1:03:07.760 best deal he can for what he can get, and 1:03:08.160 --> 1:03:11.440 that that's the problem, I believe. And the same is 1:03:11.480 --> 1:03:14.160 true with you know what's his name over in northern Kentucky. 1:03:14.240 --> 1:03:18.240 You know, you know, they may be right theoretically with 1:03:18.240 --> 1:03:22.480 with their thinking, you know, on budget and spending less money, 1:03:22.520 --> 1:03:25.560 but the votes aren't there. With even within that party. 1:03:25.680 --> 1:03:28.880 So you make the best deal you can and you 1:03:29.000 --> 1:03:31.560 move forward. I mean, that's what you do in any business, 1:03:31.640 --> 1:03:36.080 any situation. You make the best deal you can and 1:03:36.320 --> 1:03:38.760 move forward. You have core beliefs that you want us 1:03:38.840 --> 1:03:41.400 that you keep, but you you know you can't. You 1:03:41.440 --> 1:03:44.280 can't get everything you want. And you know as a lawyer, 1:03:44.320 --> 1:03:46.439 you know when you're a negotiating or whatever, you can't 1:03:46.440 --> 1:03:49.160 always get everything you want. That's just that's just the 1:03:49.200 --> 1:03:49.960 world we live in. 1:03:50.080 --> 1:03:50.480 Period. 1:03:50.680 --> 1:03:54.439 It truly is. Hey, I appreciate the call. Running out 1:03:54.440 --> 1:03:56.240 of time here, but really appreciate the call. 1:03:56.360 --> 1:03:58.880 Thanks, Okay, thanks, might take care. You're welcome. 1:03:59.680 --> 1:04:01.640 You know, there's been a lot of talk this morning 1:04:01.680 --> 1:04:06.160 about the oath that soldiers, sailors, and marines take when 1:04:06.160 --> 1:04:08.520 they're enlisting. I just want to read it for you. 1:04:08.560 --> 1:04:12.080 It's only a couple sentences. I, you know, state your name, 1:04:12.480 --> 1:04:16.160 do solemnly swear or affirm that I will support and 1:04:16.200 --> 1:04:19.920 defend the Constitution in the United States against all enemies, 1:04:20.320 --> 1:04:23.800 foreign and domestic. That I will bear true faith and 1:04:23.880 --> 1:04:28.200 allegiance to the same, And that I will obey the 1:04:28.480 --> 1:04:32.920 orders of the President of the United States and the 1:04:33.080 --> 1:04:37.440 orders of the officers appointed over me according to regulations 1:04:37.520 --> 1:04:42.320 and the Uniform Code of Military Justice, So help me god. 1:04:43.080 --> 1:04:45.840 You know again, I don't know how you can get 1:04:46.000 --> 1:04:49.800 much clearer than that. And I do understand that that 1:04:49.880 --> 1:04:54.320 does not apply to unlawful orders, but you're going to 1:04:54.400 --> 1:04:58.240 put a service member on the spot and put that 1:04:58.320 --> 1:05:02.720 person in a situation where they have to decide that. 1:05:03.720 --> 1:05:06.520 And what the Democrats are asking them to do. ICE 1:05:06.640 --> 1:05:11.440 is in these cities enforcing federal law, law that the 1:05:11.560 --> 1:05:16.120 Congress passed. I mean, when you boil it all down, 1:05:16.480 --> 1:05:20.200 that's what it is. These people trespassed into our country. 1:05:20.520 --> 1:05:23.240 Many of them, certainly, not all of them, certainly, not 1:05:23.320 --> 1:05:26.120 the majority of them, but many of them have committed 1:05:26.200 --> 1:05:32.040 serious crimes, and it is an illegal order for ICE 1:05:32.080 --> 1:05:35.000 to go in there. And not so much ICE in 1:05:35.040 --> 1:05:38.440 this situation, but the military, when you know they have 1:05:38.520 --> 1:05:41.120 contact with them and they're not supposed to do anything, 1:05:41.480 --> 1:05:44.120 it doesn't make any sense. And it really does, in 1:05:44.200 --> 1:05:48.320 my mind, make me think, what in the heck do 1:05:48.520 --> 1:05:52.200 they have in store next this one. I think this 1:05:52.240 --> 1:05:55.439 one's gonna last for a while, and I hope there 1:05:55.520 --> 1:05:58.439 is some accountability for it, because I just think it's 1:05:58.680 --> 1:06:04.080 just so harmful for our country. The precedent is horrible. 1:06:04.480 --> 1:06:07.800 And I said, when the Democrats started their lawfare and 1:06:07.840 --> 1:06:10.840 it was obvious what they were doing, I said, Look, 1:06:11.840 --> 1:06:14.360 if people think that the Republicans are not going to 1:06:14.440 --> 1:06:19.440 respond in kind when they are in office, you're you're 1:06:19.600 --> 1:06:23.480 just delusional. They are and they have. That's just the 1:06:23.480 --> 1:06:26.280 way it is. And it's the same thing here, although 1:06:26.320 --> 1:06:31.160 Republicans would never propose something like this, but it's all 1:06:31.200 --> 1:06:35.480 about payback in politics unfortunately. But that's the way it is. Hey, 1:06:35.520 --> 1:06:37.040 we got to take a break up when we get 1:06:37.040 --> 1:06:39.320 back and take a little bit of a break from politics, 1:06:39.360 --> 1:06:42.000 maybe a little Hey, we're going to talk to Jason Williams, 1:06:42.320 --> 1:06:46.360 columnist for the Cincinnati Inquirer, talking about the Elder and 1:06:46.560 --> 1:06:50.400 ex game at the stadium pay Court Stadium last night. 1:06:50.840 --> 1:06:54.080 Jason did a great op ed earlier in the week 1:06:54.800 --> 1:06:57.200 about how he feels and a lot of other people 1:06:57.280 --> 1:06:59.680 feel that, you know, they make these high school teams 1:06:59.760 --> 1:07:03.360 jump through hoops to use Paul Brown's I keep calling 1:07:03.400 --> 1:07:07.400 it that to use pay Corpse Stadium and is a 1:07:07.440 --> 1:07:09.960 really good column Going to talk to Jason about that 1:07:10.000 --> 1:07:16.720 when we get back. Mike News Radio seven hundred wlwa 1:07:17.040 --> 1:07:22.600 you Mike Allen, Saturday midday closing hour of say, well, 1:07:22.640 --> 1:07:24.920 we've been talking about it a little bit this morning, 1:07:24.920 --> 1:07:27.560 and it's been on the newscast. Big game last night 1:07:28.040 --> 1:07:32.760 at pay Corpse Stadium, Elder versus Saint X, and Elder 1:07:32.880 --> 1:07:36.000 charged out in front, but Sat X came back to 1:07:36.120 --> 1:07:38.680 beat Elder forty two. 1:07:38.480 --> 1:07:39.160 To thirty four. 1:07:39.280 --> 1:07:41.400 Not the outcome I would have liked, but that doesn't 1:07:41.440 --> 1:07:45.160 matter because it's good for the city and I congratulate 1:07:45.680 --> 1:07:46.640 the Saint X bombers. 1:07:46.680 --> 1:07:47.720 I hope they win State. 1:07:48.360 --> 1:07:50.880 There was a crowd of twenty two thousand down there 1:07:50.920 --> 1:07:53.960 for a high school game, which is pretty incredible. But 1:07:54.040 --> 1:07:58.840 the question arises who actually owns pay Corpse Stadium and 1:07:59.000 --> 1:08:04.400 who decides what the stadium is used for. Jason Williams, 1:08:04.440 --> 1:08:08.920 columnist for The Inquirer and heard frequently on these airwaves, 1:08:09.320 --> 1:08:12.760 wrote a great op ed piece this week titled Elder 1:08:12.840 --> 1:08:16.280 Saint EX at pay Course Stadium must be the start 1:08:16.439 --> 1:08:20.040 of more prep games on the Bengals field. He's here 1:08:20.040 --> 1:08:23.080 to talk about it, Jason, thanks so much for calling. 1:08:22.840 --> 1:08:23.519 In this morning. 1:08:25.280 --> 1:08:27.599 Thank you, Mike. Great to be back with you. I'm 1:08:27.960 --> 1:08:30.760 always always to enjoy your show and always enjoy you 1:08:31.200 --> 1:08:33.320 when you ask you to come on. I'm always looking 1:08:33.360 --> 1:08:33.840 forward to it. 1:08:34.080 --> 1:08:34.479 Thank you. 1:08:34.840 --> 1:08:38.200 Let me read just one, maybe two sentences of your 1:08:38.240 --> 1:08:41.439 op ed because I think it kind of like sets 1:08:41.479 --> 1:08:46.559 out the issue. All right, count Friday's Friday's massive so 1:08:46.800 --> 1:08:51.640 Cincinnati showdown between the GCL South Powers as a reasonable 1:08:51.760 --> 1:08:55.719 event being played on a reasonable day. 1:08:56.439 --> 1:08:58.040 What's that all about, Jason? 1:09:00.280 --> 1:09:03.240 Uh, Mike in in the uh, in the in the 1:09:03.320 --> 1:09:07.200 lease agreement between the county and the and the Bengals 1:09:07.640 --> 1:09:11.679 uses the term and that, uh, the county is allowed 1:09:11.720 --> 1:09:15.320 to get the stadium for a quote reasonable amount of 1:09:15.400 --> 1:09:19.960 days throughout the year. That was, uh, that was in 1:09:20.000 --> 1:09:22.400 the last lease agreement, and it was in this lease 1:09:22.439 --> 1:09:25.799 agreement we double checked the other day, our Hamilton County 1:09:25.800 --> 1:09:29.320 reporters inquired Aaron Glenn and I looked looked through it, 1:09:29.360 --> 1:09:32.800 and you know, after this elder a sante X game 1:09:32.840 --> 1:09:36.519 was announced and uh, you know, it's the same language 1:09:36.560 --> 1:09:38.200 that was in there last time. And I have no 1:09:38.280 --> 1:09:42.600 idea what a reasonable amount of day it is. And 1:09:42.600 --> 1:09:46.000 and it's interesting because, uh, you know, the Bengals are 1:09:46.040 --> 1:09:49.720 ran by very very smart lawyers and uh, you know 1:09:49.760 --> 1:09:52.320 and it's interesting that they would keep that so vague. 1:09:53.120 --> 1:09:56.280 And my gut tells me there was probably a little 1:09:56.280 --> 1:09:58.679 a little bit of a battle over that, a little 1:09:58.680 --> 1:10:02.760 bit of a battle over Hey, the county wanted guarantees 1:10:02.880 --> 1:10:04.960 on an X amount of days. I don't know that 1:10:05.200 --> 1:10:09.200 for sure. Obviously a lot of those those conversations are private, 1:10:09.960 --> 1:10:12.360 but I could see the Bengals fighting to keep that 1:10:12.640 --> 1:10:17.400 language the same as reasonable and then keeping that open ended. 1:10:20.200 --> 1:10:21.599 Some of you lawyers like to do. 1:10:22.360 --> 1:10:25.040 Yeah, I'll tell you what, that's a lawyer's dream. 1:10:25.479 --> 1:10:28.360 You can rack up the billable hours fighting that one out. 1:10:28.800 --> 1:10:31.720 It's interesting. Let me ask you something is that? 1:10:31.720 --> 1:10:35.240 But I was kind of poking fun at h at 1:10:35.240 --> 1:10:37.400 the language and the lease with that line. 1:10:37.479 --> 1:10:38.360 Okay, it was good. 1:10:39.160 --> 1:10:45.160 Who actually owns pay Corps, the Bengals or the team? 1:10:45.280 --> 1:10:47.840 I mean, I would think, I mean, hell, we built it, 1:10:47.880 --> 1:10:49.799 we paid for it, it's ours. 1:10:50.080 --> 1:10:51.479 What's the situation with that? 1:10:53.400 --> 1:10:55.920 Well, we do you and I and those of us 1:10:55.960 --> 1:10:58.479 who live in others, who live in Hamilton County, we 1:10:58.920 --> 1:11:04.760 own pay Corps Stadium, and yet we we we we 1:11:04.840 --> 1:11:10.080 are representatives decided to give another very one sided sweetheart 1:11:10.120 --> 1:11:13.280 deal to the Bengals in this new ten year lease 1:11:13.280 --> 1:11:17.040 which was agreed upon over the summer, in which basically 1:11:17.080 --> 1:11:20.280 the Bengals have uh you know, they really they control 1:11:20.320 --> 1:11:22.719 the stadium and they control the stadium in the last 1:11:22.800 --> 1:11:25.920 lease and uh and we're gonna we're gonna spend a 1:11:25.920 --> 1:11:30.120 little less money on it and percentage wise, uh as 1:11:30.200 --> 1:11:34.439 than we did last time. But the Bengals, And here 1:11:34.479 --> 1:11:36.479 here's the sticking point. I wrote a lot about it 1:11:36.560 --> 1:11:39.439 during this whole process. Not a lot of people are 1:11:39.439 --> 1:11:42.080 talking about it. But when you look around the NFL, 1:11:43.720 --> 1:11:48.360 most teams have their practice facility in corporate headquarters out 1:11:48.479 --> 1:11:53.080 away from the stadium. It's separate from the home, their 1:11:53.080 --> 1:11:56.920 home stadium. I believe only the New England Patriots and 1:11:57.000 --> 1:12:01.880 the Houston Texans use their stadium or their stadium area 1:12:02.120 --> 1:12:06.040 outside of the Bengals for any kind of team operations 1:12:06.040 --> 1:12:11.360 like practices or corporate a corporate offices. So you have 1:12:11.400 --> 1:12:14.840 to that's a big deal because the Bengals then use 1:12:14.920 --> 1:12:18.080 the building or at least parts of the building, on 1:12:18.120 --> 1:12:22.280 a daily basis. Their their their corporate headquarters and offices 1:12:22.320 --> 1:12:26.000 are inside the stadium. Their locker room, their weight room, 1:12:26.160 --> 1:12:31.200 their players meeting rooms, the coaches offices, all that stuff 1:12:31.240 --> 1:12:35.400 is in the stadium, where in most cases the NFL 1:12:35.520 --> 1:12:40.280 team has their lease with the you know, the municipal stadium, 1:12:40.640 --> 1:12:44.280 but they have their own headquarters somewhere else. So that's 1:12:44.320 --> 1:12:47.040 a big that's a big sticking point here for this 1:12:47.200 --> 1:12:52.240 because the Bengals in some capacity are using the stadium 1:12:52.439 --> 1:12:54.960 every day three hundred and sixty five. I assume they 1:12:54.960 --> 1:12:58.599 probably take you know, the Holidays office there. They have 1:12:58.720 --> 1:13:03.200 operations in that building year round, versus, like I said, 1:13:03.240 --> 1:13:06.080 most other teams do not. You know, they play they 1:13:06.439 --> 1:13:09.840 they play there on on a Sunday or or you know, 1:13:09.880 --> 1:13:12.599 Thursday night. They play their games there and then their 1:13:12.640 --> 1:13:16.439 back to their practice suburban practice facility or wherever they 1:13:16.479 --> 1:13:20.559 have their headquarters located throughout the week. And so that 1:13:20.720 --> 1:13:24.360 that that's a big piece to this whole thing, is 1:13:24.360 --> 1:13:26.880 that the Bengals have their operations there, and so that 1:13:27.120 --> 1:13:31.599 throws all this stuff into you know, the whole issue 1:13:31.760 --> 1:13:38.160 of can other events and high school games and tractor 1:13:38.240 --> 1:13:42.920 pull you know, unster truck events and concerts using the 1:13:42.960 --> 1:13:45.360 stadium And that's where it becomes a big sticky point. 1:13:45.560 --> 1:13:48.120 Yeah, And you make the point in the story that 1:13:48.560 --> 1:13:51.280 it's been seven years since the last high school game 1:13:51.400 --> 1:13:53.280 was played there, and you know what I mean. 1:13:53.400 --> 1:13:54.960 And I didn't get to go last night. It's the 1:13:55.000 --> 1:13:55.920 perfect for them. 1:13:56.439 --> 1:14:01.639 Uh some years ago Elder played Highlands hockey team over there. 1:14:01.720 --> 1:14:04.679 I think there was substantially more than twenty two thousand 1:14:04.760 --> 1:14:07.320 for that. I don't really remember why it was a 1:14:07.320 --> 1:14:11.800 big deal, but it seems perfect for it. And is 1:14:11.840 --> 1:14:14.400 it fair to say, Jason, that the Bengals have been 1:14:15.200 --> 1:14:17.679 a little bit reluctant to let these things happen. 1:14:19.280 --> 1:14:22.599 There's no doubt about it, and that they've been reluctant 1:14:22.600 --> 1:14:26.840 to let it happen, you know, And I know I 1:14:26.920 --> 1:14:29.760 poked fun of this in the column too, because you know, 1:14:29.800 --> 1:14:33.000 we were celebrating that they were that they allowed this 1:14:33.080 --> 1:14:36.160 to happen, and they allowed it to happen in a 1:14:36.240 --> 1:14:38.680 quick turnaround because this game was originally scheduled to be 1:14:38.720 --> 1:14:42.400 played at Mason High School and that place certainly can't 1:14:42.439 --> 1:14:45.320 see twenty two thousand, and to make a point here, 1:14:45.360 --> 1:14:48.559 there's only two other stadiums in this region that can 1:14:48.600 --> 1:14:51.960 seat that many people besides take Ore, and that's Nitford 1:14:51.960 --> 1:14:56.360 Stadium that you see, and obviously a Great American ballplark. 1:14:58.600 --> 1:15:03.360 So yes, they they've and and I do think and 1:15:03.400 --> 1:15:06.000 I heard along the way that, you know, because the 1:15:06.080 --> 1:15:10.320 N Street House commissioners, the N Street House Commissioner Lisha Reese, 1:15:10.600 --> 1:15:13.760 they were pushing for this, They were pushing that there 1:15:13.760 --> 1:15:18.639 could be more, you know, non Bengals events being held 1:15:18.680 --> 1:15:21.240 at the stadium. So I do think there was some 1:15:21.400 --> 1:15:24.960 softening up there of that. I did. I remember hearing 1:15:24.960 --> 1:15:28.720 that during the process of the lease agreement. You know, 1:15:29.439 --> 1:15:32.080 the fact though that you know, it all ultimately was 1:15:32.120 --> 1:15:36.000 decided that the language, you know, and again that can 1:15:36.040 --> 1:15:38.280 be opening, and that doesn't that's not a criticism of 1:15:38.320 --> 1:15:42.360 the Bengals necessarily, because they could be sitting there saying, yes, 1:15:42.439 --> 1:15:45.120 we are more willing to do those things than we 1:15:45.160 --> 1:15:48.040 were last time. The language is the same. But but 1:15:48.479 --> 1:15:51.320 bring us proposals or bring us events on an event 1:15:51.400 --> 1:15:55.320 by event basis is potentially what what could be going 1:15:55.360 --> 1:15:59.280 on there? And you know, when you're you're exactly right, 1:15:59.400 --> 1:16:02.639 my twenty two two thousand uh fans there. Last night 1:16:02.680 --> 1:16:04.559 I watched some of it on TV. Then I was 1:16:04.640 --> 1:16:06.599 falling up on all the clips and all the stuff 1:16:06.640 --> 1:16:09.760 on sincenat dot com and the media social media after 1:16:09.800 --> 1:16:12.360 the game. And I mean that that that's the kind 1:16:12.400 --> 1:16:15.920 of atmosphere you can't you can't have on on any 1:16:16.320 --> 1:16:19.639 school campus. Uh. You know, you can have that an 1:16:19.640 --> 1:16:21.800 elder as awesome as the pit is or at Saint 1:16:22.000 --> 1:16:25.479 X and or any other school around here, you can't 1:16:25.520 --> 1:16:28.840 have that many fans there. And then these Streethhouse made 1:16:28.880 --> 1:16:32.760 a great point, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity, uh, 1:16:32.920 --> 1:16:36.479 for for those for those guys. Now, if you dig 1:16:36.680 --> 1:16:39.839 dig down into that, uh, maybe not for a handful 1:16:39.880 --> 1:16:42.040 of those guys, because I know, if you know, a 1:16:42.080 --> 1:16:44.919 lot of the big time players come through those programs 1:16:45.000 --> 1:16:47.240 that they're going to go on to big time uh 1:16:47.320 --> 1:16:49.320 college football. I know there's a guy that's going to 1:16:49.360 --> 1:16:53.080 Notre Dame from Saint X. But you know, so maybe 1:16:53.080 --> 1:16:55.240 there's a you know, there's a guy here and there 1:16:55.280 --> 1:16:58.160 that's gonna make it to the NFL. But for the 1:16:58.200 --> 1:17:01.080 most part, that's a once in a life time opportunity 1:17:01.120 --> 1:17:06.479 for those players, those coaches, those parents, you know, brothers 1:17:06.479 --> 1:17:10.559 and sisters, grandparents and so everyone who was there last night, 1:17:10.640 --> 1:17:14.479 the players, everyone, they will remember that forever and how 1:17:14.520 --> 1:17:18.760 special that's special. Yeah, And as tough as it was 1:17:18.800 --> 1:17:21.559 for Elder, Like they're gonna remember, Wow, we got to 1:17:21.560 --> 1:17:25.160 play at Pey Corpse Stadium in a huge game, and 1:17:25.200 --> 1:17:28.200 we'll be talking about that game. You know, ten years 1:17:28.200 --> 1:17:30.320 from now we'll write, you know, someone will be along 1:17:30.320 --> 1:17:33.120 the line. They'll be referencing, Oh, okay, you know they played 1:17:33.200 --> 1:17:36.679 this game Elder and Saint X the in the storied rivalry. 1:17:36.840 --> 1:17:38.880 They played this game at pay Corse Stadium in front 1:17:38.920 --> 1:17:42.559 of twenty two thousand people. And those those guys are 1:17:42.680 --> 1:17:44.920 you know, players right now, they'll be telling their kids 1:17:44.960 --> 1:17:48.320 about about, you know, playing in that stadium and hoping, hey, 1:17:48.320 --> 1:17:51.679 maybe you'll get to do that someday. So I get 1:17:51.720 --> 1:17:54.680 what Denise street House is saying on that, and she's right, 1:17:54.800 --> 1:17:58.360 and so let's let's I think, and it's not about 1:17:58.400 --> 1:18:01.760 the touchy feely piece about it so so much is 1:18:01.479 --> 1:18:05.400 it's it's about along those lines, it's about allowing the 1:18:05.520 --> 1:18:10.640 community to use their facility more often. And again we 1:18:10.640 --> 1:18:12.400 don't know how many how much more often? 1:18:12.479 --> 1:18:12.760 Is that? 1:18:13.920 --> 1:18:14.120 You know? 1:18:14.280 --> 1:18:16.920 Is that is that one? Is that one? Is that 1:18:17.040 --> 1:18:19.920 one or two high school football games a year? Is 1:18:19.960 --> 1:18:22.320 that you know, just Tom Gamble, who does the great 1:18:22.360 --> 1:18:26.200 work on putting those high school classics and showdowns together. 1:18:26.640 --> 1:18:30.200 Is that him getting involved and bringing in you know, uh, 1:18:30.280 --> 1:18:34.080 you know, a preseason event or you know, and they 1:18:34.080 --> 1:18:37.160 play some posts and games there. Would love to see that. 1:18:37.280 --> 1:18:40.200 I mentioned the Reds. The Reds for ten years have 1:18:40.360 --> 1:18:43.639 done a big high school showcase where and they rotate 1:18:43.680 --> 1:18:46.960 it where high school baseball teams get to play on 1:18:47.040 --> 1:18:50.719 the Great American Field, uh, you know, the Great American 1:18:50.760 --> 1:18:54.320 Ballpark field. And that's that's special. Those guys who played 1:18:54.320 --> 1:18:57.200 baseball will remember remember we got to play at the 1:18:57.240 --> 1:19:01.639 Red Stadium. Remember that forever. And this is yeah, big, 1:19:01.680 --> 1:19:03.120 a big deal for kids. 1:19:03.240 --> 1:19:03.439 You know. 1:19:03.800 --> 1:19:06.200 Hey, Jason, Unfortunately we're out of time. This has been 1:19:06.200 --> 1:19:10.080 a great discussion and I certainly hope And let me 1:19:10.160 --> 1:19:11.400 just ask you one more question. 1:19:11.920 --> 1:19:13.840 Do you think the Bengals are going to loosen up 1:19:13.840 --> 1:19:14.720 on this a little bit? 1:19:15.320 --> 1:19:17.720 I do, I really do. I think this was the 1:19:17.760 --> 1:19:22.759 start of this was the start of something. And again 1:19:23.920 --> 1:19:26.519 I don't know how many how many events, because you 1:19:26.560 --> 1:19:28.880 know it is you can only really use the place 1:19:28.920 --> 1:19:31.240 for what, you know, eight nine months of the year anyway, 1:19:31.240 --> 1:19:33.599 because of the weather. I don't know how many things 1:19:33.640 --> 1:19:35.920 can go in there, but I do think they are 1:19:35.960 --> 1:19:38.720 going to loosen up, and so I think this was 1:19:38.760 --> 1:19:41.680 the start of something. And I don't know if it's 1:19:41.680 --> 1:19:44.320 gonna be every Friday night every week in high school 1:19:44.320 --> 1:19:47.559 football games, or every other weekend some kind of concert 1:19:47.640 --> 1:19:49.240 or something like that, but I do think you'll see 1:19:49.240 --> 1:19:50.800 some more things there throughout the year. 1:19:51.080 --> 1:19:51.479 I hope. 1:19:51.520 --> 1:19:54.240 So, Hey, I really appreciate you talking to us about it, 1:19:54.280 --> 1:19:56.200 and hope we can call on you again. 1:19:57.479 --> 1:19:58.599 Thanks anytime, Mike. 1:19:58.800 --> 1:20:01.320 Okay, good day, you too, Thanks all right. 1:20:01.400 --> 1:20:05.640 Jason Williams from the Cincinnati Inquirer also heard frequently on 1:20:05.880 --> 1:20:09.839 these airwaves talking about the situation with the Bengals Stadium 1:20:09.840 --> 1:20:13.799 pay Course Stadium. You know, maybe the Bengals can loosen 1:20:13.880 --> 1:20:16.680 up a little bit on who does what they're they're 1:20:16.720 --> 1:20:17.880 a bit proprietary. 1:20:19.200 --> 1:20:20.360 I mean, we paid for it. 1:20:20.560 --> 1:20:23.200 We ought to have some input, and last night we 1:20:23.280 --> 1:20:26.000 did and from everything I've heard, it was just an 1:20:26.040 --> 1:20:29.680 outstanding success. Hey, we got to take a break, but 1:20:29.760 --> 1:20:35.800 we'll be back. Mike Allen, Saturday Midday, one hundred WLW. 1:20:35.880 --> 1:20:40.000 Mike Allen Saturday midday, closing half hour of saying, hey, 1:20:40.000 --> 1:20:42.840 we've been talking about it all morning and everybody around 1:20:42.840 --> 1:20:47.679 the country's talking about it. These six Democrats, Senators and 1:20:47.880 --> 1:20:51.479 congress members yesterday, and we played it at the beginning 1:20:51.479 --> 1:20:52.040 of the show. 1:20:52.479 --> 1:20:53.719 Put this video together. 1:20:53.800 --> 1:20:57.439 That the way I'm looking at it, they're encouraging service 1:20:57.479 --> 1:21:01.759 members to disobey what I feel is a lawful order. 1:21:01.920 --> 1:21:05.679 And boy, you just you shudder at the precedent that 1:21:05.680 --> 1:21:11.200 that sets. And obviously the questions are are the orders lawful? 1:21:11.760 --> 1:21:16.400 And who determines what is lawful? Our next guest, you've 1:21:16.400 --> 1:21:18.839 heard him a million times here, Steve Gooden, in addition 1:21:18.920 --> 1:21:23.559 to everything else he does, former federal prosecutor, former city 1:21:23.600 --> 1:21:27.719 council member. Steve spent a long time in the army 1:21:27.800 --> 1:21:31.679 jag in the reserves, as I did. And Steve really 1:21:31.920 --> 1:21:33.759 appreciates you joining us this morning. 1:21:34.880 --> 1:21:36.639 Thank happy to be here. By good morning. 1:21:36.960 --> 1:21:39.519 How many years were you in the fighting one thirty 1:21:39.560 --> 1:21:41.880 fifth jag out there in Sharonville. 1:21:42.240 --> 1:21:46.759 Although yeah, it was eleven years, good about just shire 1:21:46.840 --> 1:21:48.880 two years active duty, So okay. 1:21:49.200 --> 1:21:50.960 I did not hang around all the. 1:21:50.960 --> 1:21:53.479 Way through, but they did about you know, it was 1:21:53.560 --> 1:21:55.599 kind of a little different during the Iraq spent up, 1:21:55.600 --> 1:21:57.240 so we stayed a little you know, we didn't stick 1:21:57.280 --> 1:22:00.400 to those eight year and four year extensions. So yeah, 1:22:00.439 --> 1:22:02.599 I did just right it eleven years all in. 1:22:03.000 --> 1:22:05.200 I got ten in, but I didn't do any active 1:22:05.280 --> 1:22:10.000 duty time. But anyway, that's neither here nor there. Your thoughts, 1:22:10.439 --> 1:22:12.760 Steve Gooden, then, I know you looked at it, your 1:22:12.800 --> 1:22:16.760 thoughts on this whole brew haha about this, And I 1:22:16.800 --> 1:22:19.040 do want to ask you too, in your opinion if 1:22:19.040 --> 1:22:22.200 you feel that the orders and I guess in general 1:22:23.240 --> 1:22:27.439 orders to quell dangers or whatever, if they're legal, and 1:22:28.280 --> 1:22:30.600 who determines whether they're legal or not? 1:22:32.400 --> 1:22:35.880 Well, yeah, it's an interesting and kind of complicated issue. 1:22:35.920 --> 1:22:38.479 And let's just I mean, cutting, cutting right through it all. 1:22:39.560 --> 1:22:42.679 It's interesting what they what they're saying, what they mean 1:22:42.960 --> 1:22:43.120 is a. 1:22:43.120 --> 1:22:44.759 Little different from what they say. 1:22:45.360 --> 1:22:45.639 I mean. 1:22:45.720 --> 1:22:48.040 I watched the video several times. I've read some of 1:22:48.040 --> 1:22:51.800 the public statements around it. They are clearly referencing the 1:22:51.840 --> 1:22:56.120 Trump administration's decision to deploy regular army troops in the 1:22:56.120 --> 1:22:59.719 district of Columbia, where I believe, you know, it's pretty clear, 1:23:00.479 --> 1:23:04.000 because it's a federal territory for lack of a better word, 1:23:04.000 --> 1:23:07.000 that the president has some pretty clear right to do so. 1:23:07.080 --> 1:23:11.160 He has also deployed troops around federal buildings and other cities, 1:23:11.640 --> 1:23:13.599 and there has been discussion. 1:23:13.160 --> 1:23:15.320 Thirdly about activating. 1:23:14.840 --> 1:23:18.599 National Guard troops in other cities where there's been some 1:23:18.640 --> 1:23:22.000 sort of indication of you know, a potential you know, 1:23:22.640 --> 1:23:26.320 general lawlessness, disorder, what have you. Now, that third category 1:23:26.360 --> 1:23:29.439 is a very complicated thing and is are already being 1:23:29.560 --> 1:23:32.240 kind of litigated preemptively, and you really kind of need 1:23:32.240 --> 1:23:35.120 the governors say so, and the National Guards under a 1:23:35.120 --> 1:23:38.599 different standard and regular army. But that's what these guys 1:23:38.640 --> 1:23:42.479 are talking about. They are insinuating. The senators are sort 1:23:42.520 --> 1:23:45.400 of sending a message to some of the army troops 1:23:45.400 --> 1:23:48.439 in this very dramatic fashion, saying, you know, this may 1:23:48.479 --> 1:23:52.200 not be a lawful order, you know, for the Trump 1:23:52.240 --> 1:23:56.680 administration to send you into these domestic operations, and that 1:23:56.720 --> 1:23:59.280 you have an obligation to disobey a lawful order. Now, 1:23:59.320 --> 1:24:02.240 as you know, is generally true that a soldier, sailor 1:24:02.360 --> 1:24:06.559 marine really does have an obligation to push back against 1:24:06.600 --> 1:24:10.080 an unlawful order. But they don't have an obligation and 1:24:10.160 --> 1:24:12.880 cannot have an obligation to push back against what they 1:24:12.920 --> 1:24:16.400 think might be an unlawful policy. And that's something that 1:24:16.479 --> 1:24:19.639 has been litigated up through the federal courts and again 1:24:19.680 --> 1:24:22.960 and again a lot of it in the Vietnam eras. 1:24:23.000 --> 1:24:25.280 So I mean, look, you know, when you talk about 1:24:25.400 --> 1:24:28.280 your obligations to disobey a lawful order, ninety percent of 1:24:28.320 --> 1:24:32.759 the time you're talking about a superior officer or superior 1:24:32.840 --> 1:24:37.480 enlisted instructing a soldier to violate the Geneva Convention. 1:24:37.280 --> 1:24:38.120 To the Rules of War. 1:24:38.600 --> 1:24:40.160 And when I was on active duty, a big part 1:24:40.160 --> 1:24:42.120 of my job was teaching that those. 1:24:42.000 --> 1:24:43.599 Rules to soldiers, right or wrong. 1:24:44.600 --> 1:24:47.919 The United States is the signatory to all these international agreements, 1:24:47.920 --> 1:24:50.360 and there's certain ways we're supposed to treat our prisoners 1:24:50.360 --> 1:24:52.919 in certain ways we're supposed to conduct ourselves in combat. 1:24:53.560 --> 1:24:56.920 That is the lawful order issue that's being you know, 1:24:56.960 --> 1:25:01.160 that is being discussed in the uniform cod to military conduct. 1:25:01.280 --> 1:25:03.679 Is that concept of if an officer tells you shoot 1:25:03.720 --> 1:25:06.240 that guy, and you're saying with the soldiers, saying, wait, 1:25:06.240 --> 1:25:08.960 he's unarmed or it's a kid. That's the kind of 1:25:08.960 --> 1:25:11.400 thing where you do have some obligation to push back. 1:25:11.880 --> 1:25:15.760 But in terms of general policies about where you are deployed, 1:25:16.280 --> 1:25:18.800 where you were being sent, where you were going to war. 1:25:19.560 --> 1:25:22.640 No soldier should be tasked or ever put in the 1:25:22.680 --> 1:25:25.599 position where they have to ask those questions. Those are 1:25:25.680 --> 1:25:29.120 policy questions. And there was a lot of litigation back 1:25:29.160 --> 1:25:31.439 in the Vietnam era where someone would get drafted and say, 1:25:31.439 --> 1:25:33.519 you know what, I I don't agree with the war, 1:25:33.600 --> 1:25:37.479 and they're like, well, too bad, Like go run for Congress, vote. 1:25:37.240 --> 1:25:38.920 You know, and try to do something that way. 1:25:39.400 --> 1:25:43.679 You don't get to as a soldier, question where you're deployed, 1:25:43.760 --> 1:25:46.400 how you're deployed, etc. Do you have an obligation to 1:25:46.400 --> 1:25:50.719 push back against an unlawful order, particularly in a forward 1:25:50.800 --> 1:25:52.880 situation where you feel that the rules of war are 1:25:52.920 --> 1:25:57.480 being violated Geneva conventions of being violated. Absolutely, that's well established. 1:25:58.560 --> 1:26:00.479 You know, there's president and that and all the way 1:26:00.479 --> 1:26:03.320 back into the Civil War through court's martial, and that's 1:26:03.479 --> 1:26:06.439 very much in our in our tradition. But do you 1:26:06.479 --> 1:26:09.400 have an obligation if if you think the unlawful order 1:26:09.560 --> 1:26:13.240 is your actual deployment? That's absurd because otherwise you're going 1:26:13.320 --> 1:26:14.720 to have all You're going to be trying to fight 1:26:14.760 --> 1:26:19.000 out public policy questions and legislative questions and and so forth. 1:26:19.800 --> 1:26:22.360 You know, in the court martial system, and it just 1:26:22.439 --> 1:26:25.080 it's it would it would absolutely lead to chaos. And 1:26:25.160 --> 1:26:27.040 all six of these senators should. 1:26:26.800 --> 1:26:27.679 Have known better. 1:26:27.800 --> 1:26:30.800 Yes, I don't know how they got there or and 1:26:30.920 --> 1:26:33.320 I guess they're all ambitious and they and they they 1:26:33.400 --> 1:26:35.879 know there's a lot of fear in some urban areas 1:26:35.880 --> 1:26:38.439 of this idea that the idea is very much out 1:26:38.439 --> 1:26:40.880 there that Trump is going to send troops in quote unquote, 1:26:40.880 --> 1:26:42.439 and I guess they're playing to that, and I guess 1:26:42.479 --> 1:26:46.080 they see some political advantage, but it really does put 1:26:46.080 --> 1:26:48.720 the rank and file troops in middle and a lot 1:26:48.720 --> 1:26:50.800 of these young guys maybe they're watching that they can do. 1:26:50.880 --> 1:26:54.720 I have an obligation somehow to push back if I 1:26:54.760 --> 1:26:57.960 don't like where where the Trump administration is sending me. 1:26:58.320 --> 1:27:00.360 And look, it is very limited that they're There are 1:27:00.520 --> 1:27:03.840 times where it is lawful for a president to send 1:27:03.880 --> 1:27:05.920 troops or to active order to work with the governor 1:27:05.960 --> 1:27:10.519 and activate national guards troops in domestic operations. I mean, 1:27:10.560 --> 1:27:15.520 it's pretty routine in times of natural disasters and hurricanes 1:27:15.560 --> 1:27:17.720 and things of that nature. There's a lot of precedent there. 1:27:17.760 --> 1:27:20.160 It's a little more it's not as well developed on 1:27:20.240 --> 1:27:24.280 this issue of general lawlessness and violence in cities. But 1:27:25.560 --> 1:27:27.439 you know, there are obligates, there are times when it 1:27:27.439 --> 1:27:29.439 can happen. I mean, we've had the National Guard. Back 1:27:29.439 --> 1:27:33.040 in nineteen sixty eight after the assassination of Martin Luther King, 1:27:33.040 --> 1:27:35.680 we had a National Guard deployment in the city. We 1:27:35.760 --> 1:27:37.840 came very close in two thousand and one after the 1:27:37.840 --> 1:27:41.960 Timothy Thomas riots. So it's not like it's never happened. 1:27:42.000 --> 1:27:45.439 It's not a good thing, but it's absolutely there, and 1:27:45.479 --> 1:27:47.439 there's no way the rank and file should be put 1:27:47.439 --> 1:27:48.719 in the middle of these six. 1:27:48.880 --> 1:27:51.800 Yeah, Steve, I looked at the Oath of enlistment for 1:27:52.040 --> 1:27:54.080 enlisted people and I'm not going to read all of it, 1:27:54.120 --> 1:27:55.840 but he didn't want to read part of it to you. 1:27:57.360 --> 1:28:00.439 Says some things in introduction and that I will obey 1:28:00.560 --> 1:28:05.160 the orders of the President of the United States and 1:28:05.200 --> 1:28:09.280 the orders of the officers appointed over me. So I mean, 1:28:09.360 --> 1:28:11.400 I know that's not the be all to end all, 1:28:11.840 --> 1:28:15.160 but as a policy situation, it's like, hey, you know, 1:28:15.280 --> 1:28:18.679 the president is the commander in chief and everyone down 1:28:18.720 --> 1:28:22.400 the chain that's above you and rank. You got to 1:28:22.439 --> 1:28:24.840 do what they tell you to do, and you make 1:28:24.880 --> 1:28:27.439 a good point. I didn't think about it looking at 1:28:27.439 --> 1:28:30.479 it from a policy perspective. Let me ask you this, 1:28:31.160 --> 1:28:35.519 who determines whether the order is lawful or not? I 1:28:35.640 --> 1:28:39.479 just think it's putting these young men and women Army, Navy, 1:28:39.720 --> 1:28:43.680 Air Force, and Marines in a really bad spot. 1:28:45.160 --> 1:28:48.040 Well, that's absolutely right. I mean, basically, what would happen, 1:28:49.160 --> 1:28:51.320 you know, is it would It would begin with the 1:28:51.360 --> 1:28:54.800 court martial. It will begin with someone, you know, say, 1:28:54.920 --> 1:28:57.839 basically refusing to carry out the order of being court martialed. 1:28:58.280 --> 1:29:01.200 Their defense would be that they felt the order was unlawful, 1:29:01.600 --> 1:29:03.720 and then if they're convicted that the court martial and 1:29:03.760 --> 1:29:06.200 the military justice system it would work its way out 1:29:06.320 --> 1:29:10.960 up to the through the kind of joint court of 1:29:11.000 --> 1:29:14.040 appeal they have in the military justice system, and then 1:29:14.080 --> 1:29:16.280 from there it can go into the federal system. So 1:29:16.800 --> 1:29:21.000 you would, in all likelihood see a scenario if indeed 1:29:21.000 --> 1:29:22.720 this all comes to pass, where it would end up 1:29:22.720 --> 1:29:25.360 in one of the federal appellate courts making the final call. 1:29:26.080 --> 1:29:28.400 You know, it's just a shame that we apparently have 1:29:28.479 --> 1:29:31.439 to get there. I don't know about you, but I 1:29:31.479 --> 1:29:35.759 look at these things with amazement. It's hard to believe 1:29:36.360 --> 1:29:39.479 that they would want to put these service members in 1:29:39.600 --> 1:29:44.760 that position. It's so so irresponsible, And I don't know, 1:29:46.120 --> 1:29:49.840 do you think that some type of I don't know 1:29:49.840 --> 1:29:51.960 how to put it. Let me ask you, do you 1:29:51.960 --> 1:29:56.879 think there should be some accountability for these six congress 1:29:56.920 --> 1:30:00.120 people for doing this. I had a guy called Earl 1:30:00.240 --> 1:30:03.000 in the morning who mentioned that he didn't think any 1:30:03.040 --> 1:30:07.160 of them were reservist. And you know, I'm not really 1:30:07.200 --> 1:30:11.160 talking about going after them. 1:30:10.200 --> 1:30:11.720 Legally, but I don't know. 1:30:12.000 --> 1:30:16.600 Something else maybe censure, but the UCMJ does apply to reservist. 1:30:16.640 --> 1:30:19.960 I think that happened when I was in so I 1:30:19.960 --> 1:30:22.200 don't know. I guess that's a long way of asking 1:30:22.560 --> 1:30:25.120 what do you think should happen to these congress people? 1:30:26.080 --> 1:30:28.439 Well, Mike, you're asking the wrong guy, because every time 1:30:28.479 --> 1:30:30.599 I watch a movie a few good men. I take 1:30:30.600 --> 1:30:32.880 the side of the Jack Nicholson character. I still think 1:30:32.880 --> 1:30:35.720 he was wrong that court martialed he was trying to 1:30:36.200 --> 1:30:38.720 I think Santiago is a Week was not a good 1:30:38.760 --> 1:30:42.000 soldier or marine. So I'm on the other side of that. 1:30:43.240 --> 1:30:46.240 But no, but you're absolutely right. If any of these 1:30:46.280 --> 1:30:49.200 congress members are still in or senators, then you're all 1:30:49.240 --> 1:30:52.920 senators are still in the reserves in any capacity. Absolutely, 1:30:52.960 --> 1:30:55.759 the u CMJ or CO military conduct still does apply 1:30:55.840 --> 1:30:58.960 to them. They could be court martialed. Trump has suggested 1:30:59.000 --> 1:31:01.920 it's a form of sedition or punishable by death. I 1:31:01.960 --> 1:31:04.280 think that might be overstating it a little bit because 1:31:04.320 --> 1:31:06.519 I think, you know, for it to be actually, you know, 1:31:06.560 --> 1:31:08.960 meet the legal standard of sedition, they have to give 1:31:09.000 --> 1:31:12.200 them a if they basically had come out and said 1:31:12.280 --> 1:31:14.960 all the way, hey, if you're deployed in an urban 1:31:15.000 --> 1:31:17.920 area and you don't think that the President or the 1:31:17.960 --> 1:31:21.200 administration have followed checked all the boxes for that kind 1:31:21.240 --> 1:31:23.519 of domestic deployment, you have an obviasion to fight back. 1:31:23.560 --> 1:31:25.680 If they said something like that, I think they'd be 1:31:25.680 --> 1:31:27.559 in a lot more trouble. There is a little bit 1:31:27.600 --> 1:31:30.720 of a of a cowardly sort of the way this 1:31:30.760 --> 1:31:35.000 is their statement is wordsmithed themselves. That's sort of like 1:31:35.600 --> 1:31:37.280 Bill Clinton way of saying, well, it's not really what 1:31:37.320 --> 1:31:40.679 I meant, kind of kind of covered air. So it's 1:31:40.760 --> 1:31:43.400 not a I think it's going to be hard to 1:31:44.040 --> 1:31:46.479 And they also have some general First Amendment arguments they 1:31:46.479 --> 1:31:49.160 can make about this being a policy matter, so they 1:31:49.200 --> 1:31:52.240 don't come all the way out and say soldiers don't 1:31:52.280 --> 1:31:54.720 go into these urban areas they can. They're talking in 1:31:55.160 --> 1:31:58.200 general terms. It's very clear from the context what they're 1:31:58.200 --> 1:32:03.160 talking about. But yeah, I think hopefully for them, they're 1:32:03.160 --> 1:32:05.439 smart enough to know if all of them are out 1:32:05.680 --> 1:32:09.960 and have met all their reserve requirements to post active duty, 1:32:09.960 --> 1:32:13.000 then they're probably outside the ucum jack. But if any 1:32:13.000 --> 1:32:15.040 of them are still in the reserves, that is something 1:32:15.040 --> 1:32:18.280 where they could be investigated by their friendly local jaggutary. 1:32:18.600 --> 1:32:21.840 Who would make the decision on that, Steve, if something 1:32:21.920 --> 1:32:23.280 like that were to happen. 1:32:24.479 --> 1:32:27.040 Well, it will be their commanding officer in the reserves, 1:32:27.360 --> 1:32:29.280 you know what, it would have a duty and obligation 1:32:29.360 --> 1:32:33.320 to investigate that prefer it. You know, it always begins 1:32:33.360 --> 1:32:35.760 in the chain of command. So you know, any kind 1:32:35.800 --> 1:32:38.760 of court martial referral always, you know, lawfully has to 1:32:38.760 --> 1:32:40.920 begin with their commanding officer, and that's where that would start. 1:32:40.960 --> 1:32:43.519 Gotcha, Hey, we got about five minutes left. Let me 1:32:43.680 --> 1:32:47.040 switch gears on you talk a little politics for a minute. 1:32:47.960 --> 1:32:50.400 Very sorry to learn that you didn't make it back 1:32:50.520 --> 1:32:51.599 to city council. 1:32:52.520 --> 1:32:53.760 The results of this thing. 1:32:54.000 --> 1:32:56.599 Just tell me, Steve, pretty much what I already knew, 1:32:56.640 --> 1:33:01.080 but puts an exclamation point on it. The Democrats, the 1:33:01.160 --> 1:33:05.200 discipline that they have in these elections as far as 1:33:05.320 --> 1:33:10.960 turnout and voting for the Democrat candidate is really something 1:33:11.000 --> 1:33:14.959 to behold. I mean, you look at it. Ryan James 1:33:15.160 --> 1:33:19.479 was nineth he won, Liz Keating came in tenth. But 1:33:19.520 --> 1:33:22.120 there's a very serious, severe drop off. 1:33:22.200 --> 1:33:24.760 I guess with that. 1:33:24.960 --> 1:33:30.400 Ryan got thirty four thousand votes, Liz got about ten thousand. 1:33:30.600 --> 1:33:33.400 Under that, I don't know your thoughts on that, and 1:33:33.439 --> 1:33:36.960 I also want to know too, what is on the 1:33:37.000 --> 1:33:39.000 horizon for the Charter Party. 1:33:40.240 --> 1:33:42.639 Well, Mike, I'd love to run out the clock talking 1:33:42.680 --> 1:33:44.400 about a few good men in court Marcials. 1:33:44.600 --> 1:33:46.400 Yeah, we got our. 1:33:47.880 --> 1:33:51.559 Look, the non incumbent got our butts kicked last month, 1:33:51.920 --> 1:33:55.679 earlier this month, and there's no question about it. And look, 1:33:55.720 --> 1:33:57.559 it was just straight slate voting. I mean, there were 1:33:57.560 --> 1:34:00.160 two or three factors, and we've been digging through and 1:34:00.640 --> 1:34:01.240 to see. 1:34:01.040 --> 1:34:03.040 Sort of what went wrong. 1:34:03.120 --> 1:34:05.040 I mean, we kind of had a pretty good sense 1:34:05.080 --> 1:34:07.679 of where it was heading about those last you know. 1:34:07.640 --> 1:34:09.080 Three or four days. 1:34:09.800 --> 1:34:12.160 We really felt like if the election had been held 1:34:12.200 --> 1:34:14.760 in the summer, I think we would have been at 1:34:14.760 --> 1:34:17.320 a very different place. I think we were winning and 1:34:17.360 --> 1:34:21.400 had defined the issues, and city Hall was responding, particularly 1:34:21.439 --> 1:34:23.320 to those of us on the Charter slate, and vertly 1:34:23.439 --> 1:34:26.360 to me because we were really bringing it to the 1:34:26.360 --> 1:34:29.080 mayor and council on the crime issue and the public 1:34:29.120 --> 1:34:32.240 safety issue and the roads and so forth. You know, 1:34:32.280 --> 1:34:35.080 we were really hitting him hard. And they did respond. 1:34:35.320 --> 1:34:36.960 I mean, I don't think it was the right thing 1:34:37.000 --> 1:34:38.880 to do necessarily, but they did get rid of the 1:34:38.880 --> 1:34:40.920 police chief. They did change the way to the officers 1:34:40.960 --> 1:34:43.719 are deployed downtown. They have, you know, in the last 1:34:43.760 --> 1:34:47.160 few weeks. They did just enough, I think to signal 1:34:47.280 --> 1:34:49.760 the voters that they were looking. But at the end 1:34:49.840 --> 1:34:52.120 of the day, I think there's two things. The turnout, 1:34:52.240 --> 1:34:54.559 even though at thirty percent it wasn't busmal. I mean, 1:34:54.600 --> 1:34:57.439 we have at least three hundred and seven thousand people 1:34:57.439 --> 1:35:00.920 living in the city, so you know, Ryan James got 1:35:01.240 --> 1:35:03.880 roughly ten percent of the residents voted for him. That's 1:35:03.960 --> 1:35:08.160 not some gigantic mandate. So you have a low turnout, 1:35:08.280 --> 1:35:11.600 and then you have very disciplined slate voters, all of 1:35:11.640 --> 1:35:15.880 whom were told that people like me and Liz and uh, 1:35:15.920 --> 1:35:18.160 and Smitherman, all all of us, by the way, who 1:35:18.240 --> 1:35:21.800 brid the polling had named better name ID and better 1:35:21.880 --> 1:35:24.640 positive name ID than most of the folks. 1:35:24.360 --> 1:35:26.599 Who want Ironically it doesn't matter. 1:35:27.240 --> 1:35:29.759 But they were told over and over and over again, 1:35:29.880 --> 1:35:33.759 these Democratic voters that we were, you know, that secretly 1:35:33.800 --> 1:35:36.160 aligned with MAGA. We were going to bring troops into 1:35:36.160 --> 1:35:39.560 the streets, we were going to bring fascism to Cincinnati, 1:35:39.640 --> 1:35:42.320 et cetera, et cetera. So the people who did and 1:35:42.360 --> 1:35:44.559 it's so funny. My daughter is a Democrat who lives 1:35:44.600 --> 1:35:47.160 with me, and I was getting the mailers about myself here. 1:35:47.400 --> 1:35:47.600 It was. 1:35:47.720 --> 1:35:51.240 It was those kind of well it opened her eyes. 1:35:51.400 --> 1:35:53.799 She's like, this is crazy, and I'm like, hey, welcome 1:35:53.840 --> 1:35:55.760 to it, kid. This is the stuff they don't teach 1:35:55.760 --> 1:35:58.000 you about it. Your professors didn't tell you how mean 1:35:58.080 --> 1:35:58.599 this can be. 1:35:58.960 --> 1:35:59.840 That's right, that's right. 1:36:00.200 --> 1:36:02.920 But but yeah, I think they knew it was likely 1:36:02.960 --> 1:36:06.080 going to be a low turnout. Corey Bowman at the 1:36:06.120 --> 1:36:08.080 end of the day, didn't, you know, excited parts of 1:36:08.120 --> 1:36:11.080 the Republican base. But he also I think kind of 1:36:11.160 --> 1:36:13.680 hurt some of the independent candidates like me and Smitherman, 1:36:13.760 --> 1:36:17.040 because you know, we weren't on that Republican sample ballot, 1:36:17.120 --> 1:36:22.479 even though we clearly were law and order candidates, So 1:36:22.640 --> 1:36:24.519 you know, we were kind of getting it from both sides. 1:36:24.720 --> 1:36:27.720 You know, we were there were it just wasn't the 1:36:27.840 --> 1:36:31.439 year for independent type candidates to break through, which is 1:36:31.439 --> 1:36:34.200 weird because we've always had that tradition in Cincinnati. But 1:36:35.360 --> 1:36:37.040 we're going to stay active. We're going to be looking 1:36:37.080 --> 1:36:39.080 at additional candidates. We're also going to be looking at 1:36:39.120 --> 1:36:42.320 some ballot initiatives particularly. I think one of the big 1:36:42.360 --> 1:36:45.160 issues that emerged here from the people I've talked to 1:36:45.320 --> 1:36:48.440 is just there's so many people who live in the townships, 1:36:48.439 --> 1:36:51.160 who live in surrounding counties, who have business here, who 1:36:51.240 --> 1:36:54.240 love the city, who have spent their money here, but 1:36:54.280 --> 1:36:57.200 they can't vote and they don't have any say, and 1:36:57.280 --> 1:37:01.360 it drives them crazy. And of course the city cannot 1:37:01.439 --> 1:37:04.720 sustain itself or live without them. So you know, when 1:37:04.720 --> 1:37:07.200 we look at what Cleveland's done in Indianapolis has done, 1:37:07.200 --> 1:37:10.080 They've they've made some stabs toward metro government to try 1:37:10.120 --> 1:37:13.760 to help make that more fair, and I think that's 1:37:13.800 --> 1:37:15.960 something where the Charter people are going to be putting 1:37:16.000 --> 1:37:19.920 some thoughts to it. Because if you live in Delhi Township, 1:37:20.120 --> 1:37:22.080 but your business is downtown and you want to take 1:37:22.120 --> 1:37:25.840 your kids to supporting events downtown, and you're disgusted by 1:37:26.120 --> 1:37:28.599 shootings in the middle of the work day on Fountain 1:37:28.600 --> 1:37:30.800 Square and you don't feel safe coming downtown, but you 1:37:30.920 --> 1:37:32.760 want to be a part of the city still and 1:37:32.840 --> 1:37:35.240 consider yourself a Cincinnati and even though you live in 1:37:35.240 --> 1:37:38.320 the township, we have to find some way for those 1:37:38.400 --> 1:37:39.519 voices to be heard too. 1:37:39.720 --> 1:37:42.360 Absolutely, I'm glad to hear you say Charter is going 1:37:42.400 --> 1:37:45.719 to stay active. I think it's helpful for the city. 1:37:45.760 --> 1:37:49.400 I really do. Hey, Steve, I appreciate this conversation and 1:37:50.000 --> 1:37:50.880 hope we can call. 1:37:50.800 --> 1:37:51.560 On you again. 1:37:53.400 --> 1:37:55.240 Anytime. You take care of my Okay. 1:37:55.120 --> 1:37:57.840 Thanks, all right, that was Steve good and boy had 1:37:57.840 --> 1:38:00.840 some good scoop, both on the political end about the 1:38:00.880 --> 1:38:06.200 city and from the UCMJ angle with what those Democrat 1:38:06.760 --> 1:38:11.240 Congress people did yesterday. Bad bad, bad news. And we'll 1:38:11.240 --> 1:38:13.960 see how it plays out. Hey, I am finished, So 1:38:14.080 --> 1:38:16.000 I am out of here. As always, I want to 1:38:16.000 --> 1:38:20.040 thank my great producer Liam for keep me out of trouble. Hey, 1:38:20.160 --> 1:38:23.680 We'll see you next week for Saturday Midday seven hundred WLW. 1:38:25.520 --> 1:38:28.519 The football bear Cats clash with the Cougars. 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