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Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday Midday

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Speaker 1: kind of a cold and brisk Saturday morning.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, just one.

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Speaker 1: You think Trump derangement syndrome can't get any worse?

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Speaker 2: It does.

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Speaker 1: We found out this week that Democrats want military men

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Speaker 1: and women to ignore orders that they, the Democrats, think

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Speaker 1: are illegal. And the six Democrats that we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: they put out a statement on video. Are you gonna

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Speaker 1: hear that in just a second. Of the six Democrats

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Speaker 1: are Senator Elise Slotkin, she's the ringleader on this, from Michigan,

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Speaker 1: Senator Mark Kelly, who he's a Democrat, but I think

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Speaker 1: you ought to know better. He's from Arizona, Representative Chris

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Speaker 1: Deluzio from Pennsylvania, Representative Maggie Goodlander from New Hampshire, Chrissy

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Speaker 1: Hulahan from Pennsylvania, and Representative Jason Crowe from Colorado. They

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Speaker 1: put this video together and put it out on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Could you play that please?

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Speaker 3: Liam?

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Speaker 4: I'm Senator Alissa Soockin, Senator Mark Kelly, Representative Chris Stluzio,

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Speaker 4: Congressman Representative Chrissy.

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Speaker 2: Hulahan, Congressman Jason Crowe. I was a captain in the

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Speaker 2: United States.

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Speaker 4: Navy, former CIA officer, former Navy, former paratrooper and Army ranger,

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Speaker 4: former intelligence officer.

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Speaker 2: Former Air Force.

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Speaker 4: We want to speak directly to members of the military

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Speaker 4: and the intelligence community.

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Speaker 2: Who take risks each day keep Americans safe.

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Speaker 4: We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now.

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Speaker 5: Americans trust their military, with that trust is at risk.

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Speaker 2: This administration is pitting our uniform, military.

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Speaker 4: And intelligence community professionals.

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Speaker 2: Against American citizens.

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Speaker 6: Like us.

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Speaker 2: You all swore an oath to protect and defend this constitution.

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Speaker 4: Right now, the threats to our constitution aren't just coming

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Speaker 4: from right here at home.

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Speaker 7: Our laws are clear.

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Speaker 2: You can refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 4: You can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 2: No one has to carry out orders that violate the

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Speaker 2: law or our constitution.

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Speaker 4: We know this is hard and that it's a difficult

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Speaker 4: time to be a public servant.

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Speaker 2: But whether you're serving in the CIA, the Army, or

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Speaker 2: Navy the Air Force.

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Speaker 7: Your vigilance is critical.

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Speaker 2: And know that we have your back because now more than.

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Speaker 8: Ever, the American people need you.

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Speaker 4: We need you to stand up for our laws, our constitution,

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Speaker 4: and who we are as Americans.

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Speaker 2: Don't give up. Don't give up, don't give up, don't

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Speaker 2: give up the ship. You know, I tell you what

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Speaker 2: I know. I say this all the time, but I

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Speaker 2: mean it.

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Speaker 1: I never, in my wildest dreams would have thought I

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Speaker 1: would hear United States senators and congress members telling service

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Speaker 1: members to ignore orders. Where in the hell is that

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Speaker 1: coming from? And you just wonder what's next. They are

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Speaker 1: encouraging these members of the military to ignore orders from

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Speaker 1: their superiors, the main one being and we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about the oath in a second year the president

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Speaker 1: of the United States. This has what it has come

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Speaker 1: to with these people, the Democrats. And you talk about

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Speaker 1: a horrible precedent. You know, they set the precedent with

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Speaker 1: respect to lawfare.

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Speaker 2: They invented it, they started it. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: Republicans are reacting, I think as appropriately as they should,

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Speaker 1: but they started it. Now they come up with this

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Speaker 1: Senator Slotken, she's the one that the ringleader on this thing.

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Speaker 1: She says, quote the threats to our constitution are coming

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Speaker 1: right from right here at home close quote.

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Speaker 2: You know what that makes me sick.

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Speaker 1: We are all so tired of the whole threat to

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Speaker 1: democracy thing. I mean, give it a rest, find something

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Speaker 1: else to say. Let's just break this down and look

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Speaker 1: at it by the numbers. One ICE is in these

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Speaker 1: cities to enforce immigration laws that Congress passed. It is illegal.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what anybody says. It's just blatantly obvious.

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Speaker 1: It is illegal to trespass into our country by ignoring

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Speaker 1: our laws. Three ICE agents are sworn to enforce the

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Speaker 1: law as written by Congress. They don't like the immigration laws,

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Speaker 1: then change them. You know, Biden, lets this is forth. Biden,

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Speaker 1: lets untold millions of people illegal aliens into this country.

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Speaker 1: Trump tries to clean it up, and now you get

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Speaker 1: this from the Democrats.

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Speaker 2: Ignore order.

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Speaker 1: Five Democrats are urging service members to basically commit treason

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Speaker 1: versus the United States, and Trump came out really strong

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Speaker 1: on that yesterday. Some of the Republican reactions. Senator Eric

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Speaker 1: Schmidt from Missouri said, I'm quoting him. Elected Democrats just

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Speaker 1: released a video encouraging members of the military to commit

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Speaker 1: treason and defy orders from the President of the United States.

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what they're telling these young men and

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Speaker 1: just so hard to fathom what the hell they're thinking.

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Speaker 1: Then you got Senator Schmidt, Eric Schmidt from Missouri Republican.

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Speaker 1: He goes on to say that at the end of it,

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Speaker 1: this is a quote. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: they're meaning the Democrats, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: they're mad at the They're mad the America. Can people

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Speaker 1: chose Trump and now they're calling on the military and

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Speaker 1: intelligence community to interfere. It just sounds a little subversive

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Speaker 1: to me. Some in the administration and the media. This

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Speaker 1: is from Senator Hulahan, one of the Democrats. Some of

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Speaker 1: the administration and media are actively working to distort that

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Speaker 1: message into something The message that they're putting out something

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Speaker 1: dark and divisive. You think talent service members to ignore

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Speaker 1: orders is not dark or divisive. Igazand to say, let

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Speaker 1: me be absolutely clear, there is nothing more patriotic, nothing

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Speaker 1: more stabilizing, and nothing more true to the rule of

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Speaker 1: law than reminding our military of their constitutional obligations and

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Speaker 1: reassuring them that if they are ever given an unlawful order,

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Speaker 1: they do not have to carry it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's real. It really makes me.

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Speaker 1: Happy that we're having Democrats tell service members to ignore

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Speaker 1: the law, and that's what they're doing. That's what they're doing,

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Speaker 1: and what the Democrats are saying that's not dark or divisive.

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Speaker 1: These people are delusional, you know. Yeah, he says doing

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Speaker 1: this is something dark and divisive that what the Republicans

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Speaker 1: are doing. You know, let me ask a question. Isn't

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Speaker 1: treason dark or divisive? Isn't sedition dark or divisive? Again,

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Speaker 1: you have to look at the horrible precedent that this sets.

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Speaker 1: It's a horrible precedent. You know, what are we to

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Speaker 1: do when one of the two major political parties in

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Speaker 1: the United States tells service members to take the law

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Speaker 1: into their own hand and disobey their superior officers. This

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Speaker 1: cannot go unchallenged. Something must be done about this. There

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Speaker 1: must be accountability. You know, maybe I missed it, but

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Speaker 1: I didn't hear anything in that video about exactly which

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Speaker 1: orders the Democrats believed to be illegal. They had plenty

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Speaker 1: but they didn't. Senator Lindsey Graham, he spent three decades

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Speaker 1: in the army jag. He was livid when he found

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Speaker 1: out about this. He's all over it. He also wants

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Speaker 1: to know what so called illegal orders the Democrats are

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Speaker 1: talking about, and he wrote a letter to these six

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Speaker 1: idiots telling them just that he wants to know. Here's

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Speaker 1: what he says. This is lindsay, I cannot find a

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Speaker 1: single example of an ill legal order during this administration.

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Speaker 1: But as a member of Congress, I believe you owe

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Speaker 1: it to the country to be specific as to which

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Speaker 1: orders you believe are unlawful in this regard, could you

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Speaker 1: please provide clarity on what orders issued by President Trump

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Speaker 1: or those in his chain of command you consider illegal.

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Speaker 2: I think that letter.

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Speaker 1: Went out Wednesday and we haven't heard anything, but it's

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Speaker 1: not an unreasonable request.

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Speaker 2: There's a guy named Douglas R. Lindsay.

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Speaker 1: He wrote an op ed in the publication military dot Com,

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Speaker 1: and if you're a service member, retired service member, reservist,

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Speaker 1: you know what Military dot com is. He's the deputy

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Speaker 1: editor and he's also retired USAF Lieutenant colonel. Colonel Lindsey

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Speaker 1: thinks the video is misguided.

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Speaker 2: I think he's being kind there.

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Speaker 1: Here's what the colonel wrote in Military dot Com about this,

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Speaker 1: and I'm quoting him. Service members are not blank slates

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Speaker 1: waiting to be told what is right. They do not

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Speaker 1: of the boundaries of their authority. So when a video

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Speaker 1: it misses the reality of the situation, that is that

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Speaker 1: service members must practice lawful decision making on a daily basis,

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Speaker 2: I think that's a long way of saying, we don't

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Speaker 1: We don't need it, Democrats, you don't know what in

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Speaker 2: We don't need this.

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Speaker 1: And let's just for a second here, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: the oath of enlistment that every service member takes.

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Speaker 2: When they enlist.

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Speaker 1: The Oath of Enlistment again, sworn by everyone who joins

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Speaker 1: the military states. They and I am quoting here, they quote,

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Speaker 1: will obey the orders of the President of the United States.

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Speaker 1: Let me just read it again. Will obey the orders

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: Will obey the orders of the President of the United

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Speaker 1: They're taking the oath according to the regulations and the

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Speaker 1: Uniform Code of Military Justice, which is the law for

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Speaker 1: every branch of the service, and we're gonna be talking

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Speaker 1: to Steve Gooden. I know you know Steve from his

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Speaker 1: in the Army JAG as well, and we're going to ask.

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Speaker 2: Him about that.

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Speaker 1: Let me add that the UCMJA Uniform Code of Military

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Speaker 1: Justice also states that orders can orders do carry Listen

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Speaker 1: to this, the presumption of legality. Again, orders do carry

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Speaker 1: the presumption of legality. That's in the law, that's in

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Speaker 1: the order to drop the A bomb is illegal and

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Speaker 1: we're not going to carry it out. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 1: that's an extreme example, but that's what we're talking talking

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Speaker 2: I mean, you just can't have that in the military.

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Speaker 1: Again, as I said, the Uniform Code of Military Justice

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Speaker 1: states that quote, orders carry the presumption of legality, orders

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Speaker 1: carry the presumption of legality. One more time, orders carry

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Speaker 1: the presumption of legality. So, just to sum it up,

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Speaker 1: the top democrats in this country are telling service members

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Speaker 2: Their commander in chief.

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Speaker 1: That's what we've come to in the year twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: me angry. There has to be consequences for this. Let

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Speaker 1: me just close by saying this, I really do wonder

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Speaker 1: what is next with these people. You just don't know

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Speaker 1: good morning, Good morning, Mike, how are you today?

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Speaker 2: What you got for me?

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Speaker 10: Well, a couple of things I'd like to touch on briefly.

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Speaker 10: Needs to be done about these things that just continue

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Speaker 7: They'll make a stink out of it.

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Speaker 10: And they're trying to can't create chaos in the military.

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Speaker 7: They have.

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Speaker 10: They have divided our families, they divided our schools. They

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Speaker 10: mister Trump made a mistake, man, Marjorie Tareley gree calling

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Speaker 10: her out and cut his mouth off, frankly, And I'm

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Speaker 10: Needs to somehow amend this. That's one strong woman. If

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Speaker 10: and she has been an outstanding, pitfull staunch supporter of

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Speaker 10: me wrong, But man, he shouldn't have called her a

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Speaker 10: trader and called her out. She resigned, and that's just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't call someone a trader unless you're talking about

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Speaker 1: these six congress people.

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Speaker 2: I think you know in many ways that they are.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know what her deal is she seems

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Speaker 1: and you know, unlike a liberal. I and you, by

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was really sadden to see that we don't need

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, you know, And she went on the

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Speaker 10: I think he's jumped the gun. You know, the women

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Speaker 12: He should have.

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Speaker 10: Backed up a little bit, because, man, I'm telling you,

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Speaker 10: I really like her, even under these circumstances. That is

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Speaker 10: And if anybody out there has listened to don't believe me,

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Speaker 10: been an outstanding support over his I think he's made

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Speaker 10: know what he can do. But man, you know she resigned,

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Speaker 10: so that speaks well, yeah.

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Speaker 2: It does, it does. I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you filling us in on that, Joey, Yes,

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Speaker 1: really do thank you for the call. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 14: Now.

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Speaker 1: I do know that Trump was or maybe did find

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Speaker 1: who knows. Let them the Democrats have their dissension and

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Speaker 1: We're getting a job done. Hey, let's talk to Ray

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Speaker 1: on west side. He says, I'm missing one important fact.

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Speaker 2: What is that?

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Speaker 14: Ray?

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Speaker 2: How are you doing? And thanks for calling.

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Speaker 7: I haven't checked.

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Speaker 15: How many of these people have any reserve active status

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Speaker 2: What people?

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Speaker 15: The people of the sixth Oh, turnaround and.

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Speaker 14: You know what people?

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Speaker 2: Good question. I don't know.

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Speaker 13: Now.

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Speaker 1: I have always respected Senator Mark Kelly's prior service. I

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Speaker 1: I don't know. There was one of them that they say, well,

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Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to that question.

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Speaker 1: One thing I do know is Lindsey Graham's got about

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Speaker 1: thirty years in the JAG and he is on this

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Speaker 15: Well, Kelly is an astronaut.

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Speaker 7: I know.

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Speaker 15: He's not on any reserve status. The point that I'm

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Speaker 15: getting at is they're not subject to the UCMJ.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they are in ten years in the reserves.

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Speaker 2: Ray they are. I mean, and I'll ask Steve Gooden

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Speaker 8: That's why I was going to say, it's a question

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong about that,

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Speaker 2: And we can't have that in the military.

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Speaker 15: No, no, no, you absolutely cannot have it. But I

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Speaker 15: They're allowed to run their mouths even if they're stupid. Well,

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Speaker 15: The closest thing is that they're endorsing fragging, which obviously, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not good, especially now if you're exactly and

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Speaker 1: some of that I understand happened in Vietnam, which which

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Speaker 15: But very much so.

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Speaker 1: I think what they're talking about, or what I'm talking

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Speaker 1: My god, I mean, that's kind of the military is

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Speaker 15: And you know, and even though like I said, you

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Speaker 15: run your mouth like this. They're pushing their luck just

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Speaker 15: in terms of pr level.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 15: And by the way, before I forget the guy that

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Speaker 15: Trump really should suck up to her.

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Speaker 2: I don't get it, man. Why was he so mad.

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Speaker 15: At her because of the fact that she was pushing

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right, you know what. I'm so sick of

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Speaker 15: Well, everybody is, and he was too, because he looked

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Speaker 15: But he should not get rid of when he's got

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Speaker 15: a low margins already and he's got the New York

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Speaker 1: Did hear that this morning that the speaker didn't even

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Speaker 7: What?

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Speaker 15: What's the Do you know what the governor of Georgia

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Speaker 1: I'm I believe he's Republican. I just and Trump got

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Speaker 15: I don't remember that was that was a long time ago.

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Speaker 15: My point is it was he's really got a bank

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Speaker 15: on him. If he's going to replace her, yep. Trust's

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Speaker 15: best best bat would be to turn around and suck

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Speaker 15: up to this lady in a big way.

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Speaker 2: Well, that ain't in his DNA, but I think you're

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Speaker 15: About it is a no, no, it's not in his

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Speaker 15: making a deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, in the DNA.

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Speaker 1: We shall see. I appreciate your point of view, Ray,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for calling.

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Speaker 15: But no, check on check on the active duties as

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Speaker 15: well as these six.

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Speaker 2: I will, I will, I will ask, I'll make a note.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask Steve Gooden Damn.

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Speaker 15: Well, yeah, Steve's gonna know best.

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Speaker 2: Yep, all right, thanks Ray, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I will ask Steve that I spent ten years

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Speaker 1: and he came after me, so he's more current on stuff. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's talk to Ransom in Columbus. Hey, Ransom, what do

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Speaker 1: you think about the video?

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Speaker 11: Well, I've always been doing something about it. I've already

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Speaker 11: called two two two two four thirty one twenty one.

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Speaker 11: I've called Speaker Johnson's house. I've well, his office, I've

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Speaker 11: called chip Boy, and I've also called speaker I mean

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Speaker 11: a majority leader soon in a Senate. You and I

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Speaker 11: both know that politically, these guys are never going to

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Speaker 11: go to jail for being sis or anything else. But

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Speaker 11: here's something we can do. Since you and I and

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Speaker 11: the rest of your listeners are the employers of all

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Speaker 11: these politicians and they're asking and they also have military situations,

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Speaker 11: so they're probably double dipping. They're probably getting pension on

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Speaker 11: the military side and also on the political side.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 11: My recommendation to Speaker Johnson and also the President and

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Speaker 11: also soon is that we suspend permanently their pensions for

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Speaker 11: seditious acts. Then you're setting that you're setting an example

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Speaker 11: to all the other politicians who are looking forward at

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Speaker 11: gravy train when they get out of politics, are out

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Speaker 11: of the military, and they'll watch their mouth the next

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Speaker 11: time they spout off about trying to be seditious to

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Speaker 11: this president, because this doesn't just affect this president. This

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Speaker 11: can affect a democratic president down the road too.

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Speaker 2: No question, no question of the pension situation.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty drastic, but this does call for drastic response.

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Speaker 11: I think, yeah, Well, if you if you could just

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Speaker 11: push that all day. Ask Steve about that too. If

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Speaker 11: we can make that happen, you have a very large audience.

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Speaker 11: And if we flood the switchboard there in d C

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Speaker 11: and say hey, speaker Johnson, speaker, thun uh, it's it's come.

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Speaker 11: The blows come to blow. And we know that money talks.

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Speaker 11: And they may not serve any time criminally, but civilly,

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Speaker 11: they have wounded our country by the seditious Act. They

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Speaker 11: don't deserve to have the money that the American people

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Speaker 11: pay for their pensions, either military or politically. And I

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Speaker 11: say take it away from them, and then watch the

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Speaker 11: change of all the politicians and all the military people

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Speaker 11: if they know they're going to lose their because this

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Speaker 11: is this. Let's face it, Mike, it's make America great.

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Speaker 11: Let's make it a great country again. And sometimes you

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Speaker 11: got to get your big boy pants on, and like

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Speaker 11: you said, you got to, you gotta.

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Speaker 7: I'm back.

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Speaker 11: I appreciate you, man, God bless you. And hope that thousands,

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Speaker 11: if not tens of thousands of Ohioans will call the

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Speaker 11: switchboard and force this through. And if they just get

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Speaker 11: one one of these six Democrats, they take the pensions away. Uh,

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Speaker 11: big changes are coming to Washington.

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Speaker 1: I hear you. Okay, Ramsey, thanks for the call. You know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's an idea. It has to be some

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Speaker 1: kind there has to be some kind of sanction, and

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Speaker 1: it has to be serious. This is George Bush used

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Speaker 1: to say, this cannot stand. It just can't stand. We

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Speaker 1: can't have this, you know, the Biden administration. As far

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Speaker 1: as the military goes in again, I would remind people

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Speaker 1: that enlistments are through the roof.

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Speaker 3: Gee.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of it's kind of funny how it happened

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Speaker 1: pretty much coincided with Biden leaving office and Trump coming in.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, Biden was all concerned about DEI in the military,

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Speaker 1: had one of his generals saying, well, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to learn about white rage.

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Speaker 2: I think it's important Trump.

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Speaker 1: Threw that crapout and through Secretary of Defense, Secretary of

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Speaker 1: War heg Seth is getting away from that they already

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Speaker 1: have and focusing the mission on what the military is

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Speaker 1: supposed to do, which is kill people and break stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know, whether you like it or not, that's what

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Speaker 1: it is. Hey, let's talk to Bobby J. Hey, Bobby J.

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Speaker 14: Good morning, Good morning to you, my friend, appreciate everything

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Speaker 14: you do as always. Well, I've got a couple of

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Speaker 14: things I'd like to mention. Yeah, you know, as a

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Speaker 14: follow up.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me let me ask you first though, what

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Speaker 1: do you think about this whole situation with the Democrats

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Speaker 1: telling the soldiers to violate their orders.

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Speaker 7: Well, they're anarchist number one, yep.

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Speaker 14: And we all know what subversive and seditious acts are,

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Speaker 14: so there you go with that. Yeah, but they're part

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Speaker 14: of the splinter groups that are soft coup, soft coop

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Speaker 14: data And we've talked about culture revolutions.

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Speaker 7: And everything that we're in the middle of.

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Speaker 14: But it all has to do with the media also

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Speaker 14: that promote these people when they put that videos out

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Speaker 14: and everything. Look who picked them up right off the bat.

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Speaker 14: Oh yeah, affiliates picked him up. And you're doing the

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Speaker 14: right thing, Mike, And I tell you what they come

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Speaker 14: after people like you that tell it the way it is.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, that's what have about it, guys,

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Speaker 2: If that's what you want to.

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Speaker 14: Do, well, I'll give you an example. That's why Rachel

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Speaker 14: Maddow advertised on your segments for m This NBC.

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Speaker 16: You're doing the right.

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Speaker 1: Thing well, and you know what, I don't have any

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Speaker 1: doubt about that, and I appreciate your vote of confidence,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Jay, I really do. I just think, you know,

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Speaker 1: Lawfair's one thing was bad enough, and they started it

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Speaker 1: and they're getting paid back. Just the way it is

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Speaker 1: in politics. This ramps it up even further than that.

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Speaker 1: The milk terry is doing very well under President Trump's leadership.

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Speaker 1: They don't need a bunch of liberal Democrats telling soldiers,

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Speaker 1: sailors and marines that hey, if they don't think the

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Speaker 1: order's right, they're not going to obey it. And I

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Speaker 1: will say again, and I'm gonna hit this with Steve

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Speaker 1: Gooden too. Orders are presumed to be legal. I mean

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Speaker 1: that's in the UCMJ. So I guess we'll have to

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Speaker 1: see what happens. But it's we can't have this.

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Speaker 12: Well.

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Speaker 14: We appreciate everything you do, my friend. And it goes

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Speaker 14: all the way back to these splinter groups. You shoot

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Speaker 14: one hundred arrows, two of three is going to stick

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Speaker 14: YEP and a lot of things they don't want to

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Speaker 14: talk about. It's no different than going ahead and pointing

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Speaker 14: out who the DNC pipe bomber was and all the

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Speaker 14: people that are affiliated with that from the Secret Service

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Speaker 14: and the Capitol Police and everything else. You know, they

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Speaker 14: only got so many people in the Justice Department. They

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Speaker 14: don't have enough to fulfill the obligations that we need.

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Speaker 1: Good point, Bobby Jay has always appreciates your call, really do,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for your kind words.

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Speaker 7: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, listen, we are out of time for

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Speaker 1: this segment. When we get back from the news, We're

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Speaker 1: going to talk to Christopher Smithman. Obviously a'all know Christopher.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately he did not it was not successful in getting

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Speaker 1: back on council. But I sure hope that young man

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Speaker 1: isn't done and he is going to continue. I asked him,

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Speaker 1: he's going to continue giving us a political commentary. His

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Speaker 1: uh political instincts and knowledge are incredibly on point, and

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Speaker 1: uh he's always got something to say.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to Christopher when we get back.

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Speaker 1: Just wanted to tell you too, have another open segment

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Speaker 1: ten thirty two eleven, So if you want to call

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Speaker 1: uh while Christopher's talking five one three, two four one

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Speaker 1: two of two, three seven four nine, seven thousand, one

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Speaker 1: eight hundred The big one are the numbers. Mike Allen

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Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred wl W Mike Allen with our

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Speaker 1: two of Saturday Midday Switching gears here a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman, a good friend of this show, good friend

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Speaker 1: of mine, did not make it back to city council.

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Speaker 1: I just breaks my heart, and I and many others

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Speaker 1: thought he had a heck of a good chance. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this just demonstrates, and the numbers demonstrate that I don't

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Speaker 1: know that there will be another non Democrat ever elected

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Speaker 1: to mayor or city council.

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Speaker 2: And you got to hand it to the Democrats.

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Speaker 1: I think they got their people out a heck of

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Speaker 1: a lot more than we did. But at any rate,

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Speaker 1: here to talk about that and many other things is

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Speaker 1: our good friend, Christopher Smithman.

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Speaker 2: Christopher, thanks so much for calling in this morning.

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Speaker 13: Oh thanks, thanks for having me on. Always glad to

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Speaker 13: hear your voice. And I'm glad that you view me

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Speaker 13: as a friend and a friend of your show.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely and I'm so glad that you're cool with staying

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Speaker 1: on as a commentator because you bring a really good perspective.

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Speaker 1: But let me ask you first. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you had prior military or not, it doesn't matter, but

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Speaker 1: what do you think about these six Democrats telling our

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Speaker 1: young men and women in the service that they don't

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Speaker 1: have to obey orders if they don't want to, because

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Speaker 1: in essence, that's what they're saying.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about.

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Speaker 13: That, Well, my father served in the Army. One of

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Speaker 13: my older brothers served in the Air Force. Because my

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Speaker 13: mother only has had one brother, I only have four

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Speaker 13: first cousins, this is important. And he just retired as

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Speaker 13: a colonel in the Army. And my own seven my

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Speaker 13: own son is serving in the Air Force. So my

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Speaker 13: answer is to you very clearly, is that the men

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Speaker 13: and women who did that video, really we're undermining the

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Speaker 13: United States military and CIA yea, and undermining our country,

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Speaker 13: undermining our country. And I hope that if there's anybody

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Speaker 13: out there listening who's serving, that they ignore that it

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Speaker 13: would put them in a perilous situation to ignore a

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Speaker 13: direct order from from a superior in the military or CIA. Exactly,

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Speaker 13: it was almost as if they were trying to plant

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Speaker 13: the seeds of not not just you can ignore orders,

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Speaker 13: but a seed that you might we might decide that

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Speaker 13: we're going to take over the government. Are we're going

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Speaker 13: to take over here? You just don't know how far

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Speaker 13: they were going with it, but you and I know

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Speaker 13: that you cannot have a military or CIA and and

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Speaker 13: have people believing that they can ignore orders.

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Speaker 2: You can't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what the military is based on, you know,

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Speaker 1: officers or or lower ranking or higher ranking people giving

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Speaker 1: orders to lower ranking people. You know, It's been that

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Speaker 1: way since the Roman Centurions, I believe, and you have

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Speaker 1: to have that for the military to function properly. And

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Speaker 1: I made the point Christopher, when Biden went out and

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Speaker 1: Trump came in, enlistments in every branch of the service just.

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Speaker 2: Went through the roof.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know, it's I just would love to

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Speaker 1: know what the average soldier thinks about this, but many

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Speaker 1: of them will not speak out. It'll be retired people,

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Speaker 1: retired service members that will but a bad, bad precedent

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Speaker 1: for our country.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you to.

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Speaker 13: Go ahead and let me add let me add another

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Speaker 13: piece to that. Shres why so many Democrats has said

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Speaker 13: to me that the Democratic Party left me this sense

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Speaker 13: that they don't even recognize the Democratic Party. So you know,

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Speaker 13: this is a game, and these steps in this direction,

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Speaker 13: this hard left mentality, meaning meaning having a strong military,

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Speaker 13: having a strong CIA, having a strong border, having a

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Speaker 13: strong local police division office, having a strong firefighter, having

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Speaker 13: a strong prosecutor. All these things should be nonpartisan. I mean,

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Speaker 13: if you just want to have an orderly society and

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Speaker 13: want to be safe, all the things that I said,

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Speaker 13: the first people listening to you should be nodding their

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Speaker 13: heads going. All of that makes sense to me. So

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Speaker 13: why has the Democratic Party gone so left, Mike Allen

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Speaker 13: that they would say, hey, we're going to some congressional

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Speaker 13: members can put out a video articulating to the military.

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Speaker 13: They can now ignore orders. It's so far left that

662
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Speaker 13: it's almost unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: As Ronald Reagan used to say, it's so far left

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Speaker 1: it left the country. You just can't have this. There

665
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Speaker 1: has to be consequences of this. There has to be

666
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Speaker 1: people have to be held accountable, you know, And I

667
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Speaker 1: really do sit here. I know, I say it all

668
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Speaker 1: the time, but I said her and think, well, what's next?

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Speaker 1: Because I didn't see this coming. I don't think anybody

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Speaker 1: else did. It's just it borders on anarchy. And I

671
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Speaker 1: guess we'll see what they have in store next.

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Speaker 2: But hey, can I ask you about the gun?

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Speaker 13: And Mike, let me just give a first second on

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Speaker 13: a piece of it.

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Speaker 2: Take a much time.

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Speaker 13: As the other piece that frustrates me is when President

677
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Speaker 13: Donald Trump puts his foot in his mouth, So how

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Speaker 13: he responds to this as the president matters to me

679
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 13: and so he he just seems to lack discipline sometimes. Yeah,

680
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 13: meaning if there's any commentary around killing them or hanging them,

681
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Speaker 13: I'm not saying there is. I don't know what he

682
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Speaker 13: meant by his words, but I guarantee you that the

683
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Speaker 13: people that are around him, they get very frustrated because

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Speaker 13: of some of the language he uses. They are people

685
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Speaker 13: that really like his public policy, but they dislike his

686
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Speaker 13: language and how he gets things done. And so you know,

687
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Speaker 13: as I was out there campaigning and talking to people,

688
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Speaker 13: people who were Republicans, right, who are work articulating this

689
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Speaker 13: to me? And so somebody, if a caller, if one

690
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 13: of you're listening, audience, you're outors listening to me right now?

691
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Speaker 13: You know how the president conducts himself in the world

692
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Speaker 13: and domestically matter, right, And so we want class. And

693
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Speaker 13: so what I would ask is those people who support

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Speaker 13: to the hard President Donald Trump, that be willing to

695
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 13: call him out when it's necessary, like, don't be so

696
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 13: partisan that we can talk about the left, but we

697
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 13: also have to spend time talking about the right. And

698
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Speaker 13: so there are things that President Donald Trump says verbally

699
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Speaker 13: that concern independence like me and wish that he would

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Speaker 13: find better ways in his words of conducting himself on

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Speaker 13: the national stage.

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Speaker 1: Very well put Christopher and unlike liberals, I'm not afraid

703
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Speaker 1: and you're not afraid to criticize members of our party

704
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Speaker 1: and the member who's the most important, the president.

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Speaker 2: And I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why sometimes he says the things that

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Speaker 1: he does. I had a very good friend of the show.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to read it now. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: read it during the ten thirty slot. Text me what

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Speaker 1: he had to say yesterday about Marjorie Taylor Green and

711
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Speaker 1: I don't know what the deal with those two are,

712
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Speaker 1: but it's just it's over the line.

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Speaker 2: We don't need it.

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Speaker 1: He did that thing yesterday with Mondami, which you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with the damn thing he says Mondamie,

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Speaker 1: and I know the President does either, But I mean,

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Speaker 1: I have to admit it was kind of nice.

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Speaker 2: It was in the Oval office.

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Speaker 1: Trump spoke, they spoke, they were collegial, and I think

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Speaker 1: people want and need to see that.

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Speaker 13: Yes, yes, it's so. It's so important in politics because

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Speaker 13: you know, once the election ends. You know this very well,

723
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Speaker 13: Mike Allan, that you have to begin to govern, yep.

724
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Speaker 13: And when you're governing, you're governing differently than when you're

725
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Speaker 13: running for office. And there's some politicians who do not

726
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Speaker 13: understand the difference between those two things. So whatever's going

727
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Speaker 13: on with the congresswoman, right, she deserved to say that

728
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Speaker 13: she wanted the Epstein files released. By the way, I

729
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Speaker 13: want the f Stein files released. It's also fair to

730
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Speaker 13: say that President Biden could have released during his four

731
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Speaker 13: year term. And the Democrats who are making a big

732
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Speaker 13: deal about this and acting as if this is the

733
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Speaker 13: first knowledge, not that the previous administration failed to do

734
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Speaker 13: what they're asking this administrati stration to do and have

735
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Speaker 13: done now, right, is also a farce. The reality of

736
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Speaker 13: it is people in the middle want to see. Do

737
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Speaker 13: we have pedophiles among us? Right? Are these people flying

738
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Speaker 13: out to an island having sex with twelve year olds

739
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Speaker 13: and thirteen year olds? And I would say it's probably

740
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Speaker 13: the biggest scandal next to I won't say, but next

741
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Speaker 13: to some other things that I've seen. Let's just say

742
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 13: that this is a big scandal and we need to

743
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Speaker 13: understand what happened to see Congressman Crockett go on the

744
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Speaker 13: floor of Congress and imply that a former member or

745
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Speaker 13: somebody in the cabinet of the President received donations from Epstein,

746
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Speaker 13: And the reality of it was it was doctor Epstein,

747
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Speaker 13: a totally different Epstein, just like there are other Alan's

748
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Speaker 13: out there, there are other Smithmen's out there, and she

749
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Speaker 13: didn't do the due diligence to understand smearing that doctor's name,

750
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Speaker 13: who was a physician, spearing the person who she was

751
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Speaker 13: talking about, smearing his name, which I don't want to

752
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 13: reiterate and keep it going, but the reality of it is,

753
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Speaker 13: we have these people in Congress who are so far

754
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 13: left and even when they're found to be wrong, meaning

755
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Speaker 13: she now knows that what she said in the will,

756
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Speaker 13: meaning on the floor of Congress, which is supposed to

757
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Speaker 13: be a fake red place, that what she articulated was

758
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 13: absolutely wrong, and still, as you and I are talking,

759
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 13: she's unwilling to go and apologize. This kind of civility

760
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Speaker 13: is missing in our elected officials, and it's up to

761
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 13: the people to demand it. The problem is is that

762
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 13: there are people out here who are adopting this extreme behavior.

763
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Speaker 13: They'll walk up to me while I'm eating lunch and

764
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Speaker 13: try to cust me out. You know, They'll walk up

765
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Speaker 13: to me and I'm with my daughter and try to

766
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Speaker 13: talk crazy to me in front of my child. People

767
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 13: have to have basic boundaries, Mike Allen, and if we don't,

768
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Speaker 13: we're going to move this country in a place that we.

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Speaker 2: Don't want it, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: There has to be some return to so ability, somehow,

771
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Speaker 1: some way. And you know, I'm probably gonna get some

772
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Speaker 1: grief from people about saying that, about that visit at

773
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Speaker 1: the White House with Mondamie and Trump, But again, he's

774
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Speaker 1: a democratic socialist, He's a socialist, a borderline communist. I

775
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 1: don't think anything that he says is going to work.

776
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Speaker 1: But just the fact that he's in the White House

777
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Speaker 1: talking to President Trump and they were collegial with each other,

778
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Speaker 1: that's a good thing. And boy, at some point, I

779
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: hope we returned to it. But I really did want

780
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Speaker 1: to ask you on the government shutdown. I wanted to

781
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Speaker 1: ask you what you feel the aftermath of that is

782
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Speaker 1: because I'll tell you, Christopher, I looked before the show

783
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Speaker 1: last week for some poll numbers as to who is

784
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Speaker 1: getting the blame for this thing, because Republicans, not by

785
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: a lot, but by a decent margin, were being blamed

786
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Speaker 1: more than Democrats. I haven't had a chance to look recently,

787
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Speaker 1: but just wanted to get your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 13: Well, let me say that it is it would be

789
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Speaker 13: a lie to say that.

790
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Speaker 12: The Republicans shut the government down. The people who shut the.

791
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Speaker 13: Government down were the Democrats, and there might have been

792
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Speaker 13: fifteen votes that gave them many opportunities to open up

793
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Speaker 13: the government. There were a handful of three or four

794
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Speaker 13: Democrats who constantly voted in favor.

795
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Speaker 12: One was.

796
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Speaker 13: The senator out of Pennsylvania. But the point is that

797
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 13: this misinformation, meaning the Democrats continue to repeat over and

798
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Speaker 13: over and over and over again every other day on

799
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Speaker 13: press conference that the Republicans that were the ones that

800
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 13: were shutting the government down, and there are people out

801
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 13: there that just believe it because CNN and THENBC they

802
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 13: continue to repeat the same nonsense. The reality of it

803
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 13: is is that the Democrats decided that they wanted to

804
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Speaker 13: impact local election and statewide elections. The governor's run in

805
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 13: Virginia and the local elections they hold. They held a

806
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 13: King's March. All of these things were strategies to wake

807
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 13: up what they would call their base and get them

808
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 13: to participate in the political process, and they successfully did that.

809
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 13: And so there was a lot of Democrats who walked

810
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Speaker 13: in said I don't care what your political affiliation. I

811
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 13: don't care who you are, I don't care what you

812
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 13: stand for, and if you're not a Democrat, I'm not

813
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 13: voting for you. And Conservatives and Republicans in Cincinnati who

814
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 13: didn't show up in those might be listening to this

815
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 13: have to understand that they are a part of that.

816
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 13: You're part of the problem. Anybody who doesn't show up

817
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 13: and participate but has an opinion about the election is

818
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 13: a part of the problem. We have to understand that

819
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Speaker 13: there's an election in twenty twenty six. Locally, we've got

820
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Speaker 13: Winkler on the ballot over a probate court. We've got

821
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Speaker 13: Leah dencin Locker, she's running for common Sees. We've got

822
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Speaker 13: a governor's race. I do not want to live in

823
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Speaker 13: a county or a city or a state where the

824
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 13: one party is running everything. That is bad for everybody.

825
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Speaker 13: And so I can tell you right now I'm supporting Winkler.

826
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Speaker 13: I'm supporting Leah dinkin Locker and I'm supporting the veck Rabaswami.

827
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Speaker 13: I want diversity like anything else. I want diversity of views,

828
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Speaker 13: I want diversity of gender, I want diversity of ideas.

829
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Speaker 13: These things make our state and our county and our Congress.

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Speaker 13: It makes things stronger, not weaker. I'm really concerned that

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Speaker 13: Hamilton County, that the city of Cincinnati has moved so

832
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 13: far left that what we're going to end up having

833
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 13: are higher taxes, bigger street cars, bigger development, less infrastructure,

834
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Speaker 13: less police, less fire. Not good for the citizens of

835
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Speaker 13: Cincinnati or our county.

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Speaker 12: I'm really concerned about the direction of our county right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I am too. I mean, you know, Republicans ruled

838
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: the roofs for a long time, but there were Democrats

839
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Speaker 1: that cracked that barrier and Democrat judges. Not a lot

840
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Speaker 1: some Democrat elected officials. Dusty Rhodes comes to mind, but

841
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 1: there are other Dusty, of course, was a conservative Democrat.

842
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Speaker 1: But man, I mean, we're getting skunked on this thing.

843
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: Got about a minute and a half left. I wanted

844
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Speaker 1: to ask you about it. I did not see exactly

845
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Speaker 1: what the percentage of voters in the city of Cincinnati

846
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Speaker 1: came out and vote, but it was awful, and the

847
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: D's got their people out, but Republicans and Independents didn't

848
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Speaker 1: seem to show up.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, well I lost.

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Speaker 13: Part of putting your name on the ballot is you

851
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Speaker 13: take the risk of losing. And this is a winner

852
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 13: take off system, you know. Bottom line, I appreciate all

853
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 13: the voters who cast votes and voted for me, and

854
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 13: I appreciate those who didn't vote for me. I want

855
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 13: people to participate in the process, and I think at

856
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 13: the end of the day, democracy, whether it's an informed

857
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 13: voter or not, democracy rules. That's what concerns me about

858
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 13: where we started our conversation, when you have Congressional members

859
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 13: who are trying to indicate to our CIA and our

860
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 13: military not to listen to direct order. So I respect

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Speaker 13: the outcome of the election. I'll be back in some

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00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 13: kind of way. Politically, I'm not out. I'm an appointee

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Speaker 13: of the governor right now to the casino board. There

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00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 13: are lots of things that I'll weigh in on. You'll

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00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 13: hear about them coming up pretty soon. So whether my

866
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Speaker 13: name is on the ballot, whether we're working on petition drives.

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Speaker 13: Whether I'm working for a gubernatorial candidate or working for

868
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Speaker 13: like a Winkler or a dinkin Locker to win county wide,

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Speaker 13: you will see me participating, you know, in the political process.

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Speaker 13: And you know, my concern is that elections have consequences.

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Speaker 13: And so remember that I lost the election. The election

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00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 13: is over, and people like Keating lost the election good

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00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,479
Speaker 13: and lost the election. But at the end the day,

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00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 13: you know, for the voters, if your taxes go higher,

875
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Speaker 13: your infrastructure stays the same, violence stays the same. We

876
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 13: didn't improve anything, right, and so we've got to get better.

877
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 15: Right.

878
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 13: The elections have consequences, and I'm praying for our city

879
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 13: and I want the best for the county.

880
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 2: All right, Afraid, I sure appreciate you call it in and.

881
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 13: Appreciate you so much. I appreciate you, Mike Allen. Happy

882
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 13: Thanksgiving to.

883
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 12: You and your family.

884
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 2: You too, buddy, Thank you.

885
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 13: Okay, take care, okay, all right.

886
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman, he's not going anywhere. He's going to be

887
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: with us periodically quite a bit. Actually, I just like

888
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: the perspective that he brings.

889
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

890
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: I hope he's not done with elective politics. But I mean,

891
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: you got to be smart about it. If if it's

892
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: a near impossibility, then I guess you just got to

893
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: live with that. Hopefully things will change with that respect

894
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: and Amont County in the city. But I ain't holding

895
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: my breath. Hey, we got to take a break. But

896
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: when we get back, open lines seven four nine, seven thousand, one,

897
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: eight hundred. The big one are the numbers. Mike Allen

898
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: Saturday Midday. Hey, we're back, Mike Allen, Saturday Midday. Gonna

899
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: get to the phones in just a moment here. But

900
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: there has been a lot of talk this morning about

901
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green and her decision announcement yesterday. I guess

902
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: that she is resigning from Congress. I think it took

903
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people by surprise. She had been feuding

904
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: with President Trump, and Trump well, he came out pretty

905
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: strong when that notice hit. But anyway, he did put

906
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 1: something on truth social A lot of people been asking

907
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: about it.

908
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 2: So just bear with me a second. I'm going to

909
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 2: read it.

910
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: This is what President Trump said about the whole situation

911
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: with her, and I'm quoting Marjorie Trader Brown. Because of

912
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 1: plummeting poll numbers and not wanting to face a primary

913
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 1: check Vallenger with a strong Trump endorsement where she would

914
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: have no chance of winning, has decided to call it quits.

915
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: Her relationship with the worst Republican Congressman in decades, Tom

916
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: Massey of Kentucky, also known as Ran Paul Jr. Because

917
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: he votes against the Republican Party and really good legislation

918
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 1: did not help her for some reason, primarily that I

919
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: refused to return her never ending barrage of bad calls.

920
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: Marjorie went bad. Nevertheless, I will always appreciate Marjorie and

921
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: I thank her for her service to our countries.

922
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 2: Signed President Donald DJT.

923
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 7: Donald J.

924
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: Trump.

925
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm very lucky on the show to have really great

926
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: listeners who helped me out when I need it, and

927
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: I appreciate that listener sending that to me.

928
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

929
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: I just wish we didn't have to fight among ourselves

930
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: and we didn't have that hot of rhetoric. But it

931
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: is what it is. I don't know what the reason is. Uh,

932
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: it's just one less Republican I guess. I guess she's

933
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: from a Republican stronghold district. I don't know, but we

934
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: could do without all that stuff. But again it is

935
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: what it is as promised. Back to the phones. Let's

936
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: talk to Dennis in Annapolis.

937
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, Doc, Good morning, Mike.

938
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Speaker 7: What you got.

939
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 8: I want to make a couple of quick points here

940
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 8: about this whole whole thing about these uh, these congress

941
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 8: people making the comments about not following orders. And I've

942
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 8: been long as a physician, long convinced that most of

943
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 8: these Democrats have significant mental derangement. I made that point before,

944
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 8: and call again, and uh, I think that Trump the

945
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 8: agent syndrome should be included in this, in the psyche,

946
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 8: in this the ds Yes, you got it, Agnoso Statistical

947
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 8: Manual Mental Disorders, the d s M five, the fifth edition,

948
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 8: which you know is a standardized It just has standardized

949
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 8: criteria for diagnosis and classific classification.

950
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 2: Lawyer time.

951
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 12: Yeah right right. So so.

952
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 8: I don't know if you caught it in a Well

953
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 8: Street journal, but it's kind of made my point. Jonathan Albert,

954
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 8: who's a psychotherapist in New York City wrote a big

955
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 8: op ed about Uh. The title of it is the

956
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 8: Trump Derangement Syndrome, an actual uh.

957
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 12: You know disorder.

958
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 2: I did see that, and.

959
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 12: He did see it.

960
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, yeah, it was.

961
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 12: A great piece. Yeah, yeah, he quote him, he.

962
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 8: Says he he first he thought it was like a

963
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 8: Trump drained the syndrome is like an ideological reaction. But

964
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 8: he he came to be convinced that it's, to quote him,

965
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 8: an obsessive, which, uh, a political figure becomes the focal

966
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 8: point for through the thoughts.

967
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: Well, it's awful and it's busted up families. I can

968
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: tell you that from experience, and I don't know, I mean,

969
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: it's very hard to explain. But when I hit people

970
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: like you and I forget who was the author of

971
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: that piece saying that that that's something that ought to

972
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: be considered, you know, I'm down with that.

973
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 2: It's just it's nuts.

974
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: And I'll be honest with you, I'm going through it

975
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: with a family member, and it's it's heartbreaking, is what

976
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: it is.

977
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 2: It's on top of that, it's just stupid.

978
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 12: Yeah.

979
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 8: So coming from that, which I think, these these all

980
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 8: these people, these Congress people who went on this video,

981
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 8: which I'm convinced they all of them have this, Uh

982
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 8: you know, where where was where were these where were

983
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 8: the Democrats when they're talking about following orders? The dementia

984
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 8: Joe Biden. You had some serious cognitive issues, you think,

985
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 8: and our military was taking words from him. Where were they?

986
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 2: Oh?

987
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, where the guy wasn't even capable of ordering a

988
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 8: big macmeal and that McDonald's drive in.

989
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: No, I don't mean to laugh. You're right, You're right.

990
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: I mean they were nowhere to be found then. But hey,

991
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 1: I appreciate your point of view, Doc, And I got

992
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of callers here.

993
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you so much.

994
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: All right, all right, you know, and I did read that,

995
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: and apparently there I don't think it'll happen, but there

996
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: are some within the medical slash psychological community that think

997
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: that it ought to be classified as a legitimate syndrome.

998
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: I guess we'll have to see what happens. Hey, let's

999
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: talk to let's talk to Steve Hey. Good morning, Steve.

1000
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 7: Hey, Mike, how you doing.

1001
00:56:58,960 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 2: I'm good.

1002
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 7: Well.

1003
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 3: I just want to mention something about the military. I

1004
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 3: served twenty seven years in the reserves, and I volunteered

1005
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 3: twice for Desert Storm, and then when that came along,

1006
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 3: my unit got called up and I went to the

1007
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 3: thurge and I went to the invasion. And then yesterday

1008
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 3: my daughter says to me, you know, dad, when you

1009
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 3: want to Iraq, you abandon of the family. And I said,

1010
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 3: how can you say that?

1011
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 7: She said an er nurse.

1012
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 3: I said, how can you talk like that? But this

1013
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 3: is what they're going too. People's minds today. They exist

1014
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 3: like anti military.

1015
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, and boy, and it starts in grade school,

1016
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: goes through high school, then of course into college.

1017
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 2: That's the hell of a thing.

1018
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: I mean that happened, has happened for a long long time,

1019
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: and that's one of the things that we on the

1020
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: sensible right, the normies have to deal with. They've been

1021
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: having that crap pounded in their heads for years.

1022
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 3: I just didn't know what to say. I didn't want

1023
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 3: to argue with because you know, you can't change.

1024
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: People's mind, especially a liberal.

1025
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that's what it is.

1026
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 7: But if you get.

1027
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 3: Orders to go from the military, you just go. You

1028
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 3: don't question it, to give it to your employer and

1029
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 3: then you leave.

1030
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, you know it's and I'm in a similar

1031
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: situation with that. And you know, the way I look

1032
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: at it, you got you got family way way up

1033
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: the food chain, and you've got politics way down the

1034
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: food chain. What is more important? But it's what a

1035
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: lot of people are dealing with unfortunately.

1036
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you've got a good show. Make we'll give

1037
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 3: a comment on it.

1038
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, Steve appreciate it, so, thank you. Yeah.

1039
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: I'd like to see it become designated as a syndrome,

1040
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: and I guess we'll have to see what happens.

1041
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 2: Hey, let's talk to Larry in Germantown. Hey, good morning, Larry.

1042
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 16: Good morning.

1043
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 7: How are you.

1044
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good. What you got for me?

1045
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 16: Well, I thing about the punishments of our elected officials.

1046
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 16: And what I do know is like when a politician

1047
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 16: is censured, like Adam Schiff, it doesn't mean a thing.

1048
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 2: Not a thing. You know, you know what he got

1049
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 2: for his troubles. He got elected to the Senate exactly.

1050
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 16: And so you know, I'd like to hear your if

1051
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 16: you have, if you know more than.

1052
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 17: Me, about what you probably do about, say the the

1053
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 17: chain of punishment, say starting with censor, because that's nothing,

1054
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 17: and then after a censer, what is there?

1055
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 16: And then what is it? You understand what I'm asking.

1056
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Is I sit here, I'm not

1057
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: really sure. I know censure is that at the lower

1058
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: end of it.

1059
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1060
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to look into that though, but it can't stand.

1061
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: It just can't stand. You can't be putting these uh,

1062
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: these young men and women in that situation where they,

1063
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: with I guess the attempted help of the Democrat Party,

1064
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: they decide what's a lawful order and what's not. I mean,

1065
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: some of it's obvious, like the Melay situation in Vietnam,

1066
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: that was obvious. That guy for Lieutenant Kelly. I think

1067
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: it was gave illegal orders.

1068
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 2: I mean, but.

1069
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: They're trying to get them to disobey orders because they

1070
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: don't like the politics of it, they being the Democrats,

1071
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: and we can't.

1072
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 2: Have that right.

1073
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 16: And I think they're referring to Ice probably.

1074
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 2: Of course, of course. Well, I appreciate the call, my friend.

1075
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 16: All right, thank you, Okay, thank you bye.

1076
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question. I know censure is one option.

1077
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of them really care if

1078
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: they're censured or not these days. But I will look

1079
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: into that. Hey, let's talk too, let's talk to Mark.

1080
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 7: Hey.

1081
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 2: Good morning, Mark.

1082
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 12: Hey, good morning.

1083
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 16: How are you today.

1084
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good, which god.

1085
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 18: You know, you know, these these five, these five congress

1086
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 18: men Congress women that that that are that have come

1087
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 18: out and made those comments. I think what's really going

1088
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 18: on here They are probably five of the more moderate

1089
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 18: Democrats and you know in Congress if there is any,

1090
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 18: and I think what what's happening here is they are

1091
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 18: trying to carve a niche out for themselves here, uh

1092
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 18: and suck you know, get some of the air back

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Speaker 18: in the room for them by the socialist wing of

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Speaker 18: that party, and that are they're extremely far left, and

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Speaker 18: I think this is their way of trying to keep

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Speaker 18: them on the radar. And I think using the military

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Speaker 18: as a means to do that is reprehensible.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 18: So and that's that's a good theory. But that's what

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Speaker 18: I think here. I mean, especially Slotkin in Michigan and

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Speaker 18: Kelly and Arizona. I mean, they're probably looking at some

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Speaker 18: of the people that the leadership of that party and saying, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, we're not we're not here, and they're.

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Speaker 18: Looking for a way to try to elevate them back,

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Speaker 18: you know, back to prominent, especially with a midterm election

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Speaker 18: coming up. But I think it's a I think it's

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Speaker 18: reprehensible what they're doing. And I think long term, you know,

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Speaker 18: this is probably not going to be good. It might

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Speaker 18: help them politically in that party, but I don't think

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Speaker 18: it's going to win them any votes on the outside,

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Speaker 18: you know. And as far as far as Marjorie Taylor

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Speaker 18: Green goes, I think the issue with her and what

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Speaker 18: what Trump is upset about is that on a lot

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Speaker 18: of these core issues like the budget, you know, she

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Speaker 18: just hasn't supported the president and been a thorn in

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Speaker 18: his side on that, along with you know, Rand Paul

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Speaker 18: to some extent, And not that they're wrong what they're

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01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 18: trying to do, but the problem is the Republicans don't

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Speaker 18: have the votes to do what they would like to do,

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Speaker 18: and that's the problem. And you know, she needs to

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Speaker 18: work towards getting more of the members to come her

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Speaker 18: way because you know, until that happens, you know, Trump

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Speaker 18: is trying to keep the coalition together and make the

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Speaker 18: best deal he can for what he can get, and

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Speaker 18: that that's the problem, I believe. And the same is

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Speaker 18: true with you know what's his name over in northern Kentucky.

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Speaker 18: You know, you know, they may be right theoretically with

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Speaker 18: with their thinking, you know, on budget and spending less money,

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Speaker 18: but the votes aren't there. With even within that party.

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Speaker 18: So you make the best deal you can and you

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Speaker 18: move forward. I mean, that's what you do in any business,

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01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 18: any situation. You make the best deal you can and

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01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 18: move forward. You have core beliefs that you want us

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01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 18: that you keep, but you you know you can't. You

1135
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 18: can't get everything you want. And you know as a lawyer,

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01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,439
Speaker 18: you know when you're a negotiating or whatever, you can't

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Speaker 18: always get everything you want. That's just that's just the

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Speaker 18: world we live in.

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Speaker 7: Period.

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Speaker 1: It truly is. Hey, I appreciate the call. Running out

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01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: of time here, but really appreciate the call.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Okay, thanks, might take care. You're welcome.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's been a lot of talk this morning

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01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: about the oath that soldiers, sailors, and marines take when

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01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: they're enlisting. I just want to read it for you.

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01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: It's only a couple sentences. I, you know, state your name,

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01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: do solemnly swear or affirm that I will support and

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Speaker 1: defend the Constitution in the United States against all enemies,

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01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: foreign and domestic. That I will bear true faith and

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Speaker 1: allegiance to the same, And that I will obey the

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Speaker 1: orders of the President of the United States and the

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Speaker 1: orders of the officers appointed over me according to regulations

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01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: and the Uniform Code of Military Justice, So help me god.

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Speaker 1: You know again, I don't know how you can get

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Speaker 1: much clearer than that. And I do understand that that

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01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: does not apply to unlawful orders, but you're going to

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Speaker 1: put a service member on the spot and put that

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Speaker 1: person in a situation where they have to decide that.

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01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: And what the Democrats are asking them to do. ICE

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01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 1: is in these cities enforcing federal law, law that the

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Speaker 1: Congress passed. I mean, when you boil it all down,

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01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: that's what it is. These people trespassed into our country.

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Speaker 1: Many of them, certainly, not all of them, certainly, not

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Speaker 1: the majority of them, but many of them have committed

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Speaker 1: serious crimes, and it is an illegal order for ICE

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Speaker 1: to go in there. And not so much ICE in

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01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: this situation, but the military, when you know they have

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01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: contact with them and they're not supposed to do anything,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense. And it really does, in

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Speaker 1: my mind, make me think, what in the heck do

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Speaker 1: they have in store next this one. I think this

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Speaker 1: one's gonna last for a while, and I hope there

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Speaker 1: is some accountability for it, because I just think it's

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Speaker 1: just so harmful for our country. The precedent is horrible.

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Speaker 1: And I said, when the Democrats started their lawfare and

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Speaker 1: it was obvious what they were doing, I said, Look,

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Speaker 1: if people think that the Republicans are not going to

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Speaker 1: respond in kind when they are in office, you're you're

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Speaker 1: just delusional. They are and they have. That's just the

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Speaker 1: way it is. And it's the same thing here, although

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01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 1: Republicans would never propose something like this, but it's all

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Speaker 1: about payback in politics unfortunately. But that's the way it is. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we got to take a break up when we get

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Speaker 1: back and take a little bit of a break from politics,

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Speaker 1: maybe a little Hey, we're going to talk to Jason Williams,

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Speaker 1: columnist for the Cincinnati Inquirer, talking about the Elder and

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Speaker 1: ex game at the stadium pay Court Stadium last night.

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01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: Jason did a great op ed earlier in the week

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Speaker 1: about how he feels and a lot of other people

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01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: feel that, you know, they make these high school teams

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Speaker 1: jump through hoops to use Paul Brown's I keep calling

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Speaker 1: it that to use pay Corpse Stadium and is a

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Speaker 1: really good column Going to talk to Jason about that

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Speaker 1: when we get back. Mike News Radio seven hundred wlwa

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Speaker 1: you Mike Allen, Saturday midday closing hour of say, well,

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Speaker 1: we've been talking about it a little bit this morning,

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Speaker 1: and it's been on the newscast. Big game last night

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Speaker 1: at pay Corpse Stadium, Elder versus Saint X, and Elder

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Speaker 1: charged out in front, but Sat X came back to

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Speaker 1: beat Elder forty two.

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Speaker 2: To thirty four.

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Speaker 1: Not the outcome I would have liked, but that doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter because it's good for the city and I congratulate

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Speaker 1: the Saint X bombers.

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Speaker 2: I hope they win State.

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Speaker 1: There was a crowd of twenty two thousand down there

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Speaker 1: for a high school game, which is pretty incredible. But

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Speaker 1: the question arises who actually owns pay Corpse Stadium and

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Speaker 1: who decides what the stadium is used for. Jason Williams,

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Speaker 1: columnist for The Inquirer and heard frequently on these airwaves,

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Speaker 1: wrote a great op ed piece this week titled Elder

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Speaker 1: Saint EX at pay Course Stadium must be the start

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Speaker 1: of more prep games on the Bengals field. He's here

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Speaker 1: to talk about it, Jason, thanks so much for calling.

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Speaker 2: In this morning.

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Speaker 12: Thank you, Mike. Great to be back with you. I'm

1217
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 12: always always to enjoy your show and always enjoy you

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01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 12: when you ask you to come on. I'm always looking

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Speaker 12: forward to it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Let me read just one, maybe two sentences of your

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Speaker 1: op ed because I think it kind of like sets

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Speaker 1: out the issue. All right, count Friday's Friday's massive so

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01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 1: Cincinnati showdown between the GCL South Powers as a reasonable

1225
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:55,719
Speaker 1: event being played on a reasonable day.

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Speaker 2: What's that all about, Jason?

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Speaker 12: Uh, Mike in in the uh, in the in the

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01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 12: lease agreement between the county and the and the Bengals

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01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 12: uses the term and that, uh, the county is allowed

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01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 12: to get the stadium for a quote reasonable amount of

1231
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 12: days throughout the year. That was, uh, that was in

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Speaker 12: the last lease agreement, and it was in this lease

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01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,799
Speaker 12: agreement we double checked the other day, our Hamilton County

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01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 12: reporters inquired Aaron Glenn and I looked looked through it,

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Speaker 12: and you know, after this elder a sante X game

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01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 12: was announced and uh, you know, it's the same language

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01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 12: that was in there last time. And I have no

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01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:42,600
Speaker 12: idea what a reasonable amount of day it is. And

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Speaker 12: and it's interesting because, uh, you know, the Bengals are

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01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 12: ran by very very smart lawyers and uh, you know

1241
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 12: and it's interesting that they would keep that so vague.

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01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 12: And my gut tells me there was probably a little

1243
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 12: a little bit of a battle over that, a little

1244
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 12: bit of a battle over Hey, the county wanted guarantees

1245
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 12: on an X amount of days. I don't know that

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Speaker 12: for sure. Obviously a lot of those those conversations are private,

1247
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 12: but I could see the Bengals fighting to keep that

1248
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 12: language the same as reasonable and then keeping that open ended.

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Speaker 12: Some of you lawyers like to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what, that's a lawyer's dream.

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01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: You can rack up the billable hours fighting that one out.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting. Let me ask you something is that?

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Speaker 12: But I was kind of poking fun at h at

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01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 12: the language and the lease with that line.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it was good.

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Speaker 1: Who actually owns pay Corps, the Bengals or the team?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would think, I mean, hell, we built it,

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01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:49,799
Speaker 1: we paid for it, it's ours.

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Speaker 2: What's the situation with that?

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Speaker 12: Well, we do you and I and those of us

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Speaker 12: who live in others, who live in Hamilton County, we

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01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 12: own pay Corps Stadium, and yet we we we we

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Speaker 12: are representatives decided to give another very one sided sweetheart

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Speaker 12: deal to the Bengals in this new ten year lease

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01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 12: which was agreed upon over the summer, in which basically

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01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 12: the Bengals have uh you know, they really they control

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01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 12: the stadium and they control the stadium in the last

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01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 12: lease and uh and we're gonna we're gonna spend a

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Speaker 12: little less money on it and percentage wise, uh as

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Speaker 12: than we did last time. But the Bengals, And here

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Speaker 12: here's the sticking point. I wrote a lot about it

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Speaker 12: during this whole process. Not a lot of people are

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01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 12: talking about it. But when you look around the NFL,

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01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 12: most teams have their practice facility in corporate headquarters out

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01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 12: away from the stadium. It's separate from the home, their

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01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 12: home stadium. I believe only the New England Patriots and

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01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 12: the Houston Texans use their stadium or their stadium area

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Speaker 12: outside of the Bengals for any kind of team operations

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01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 12: like practices or corporate a corporate offices. So you have

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Speaker 12: to that's a big deal because the Bengals then use

1281
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 12: the building or at least parts of the building, on

1282
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 12: a daily basis. Their their their corporate headquarters and offices

1283
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 12: are inside the stadium. Their locker room, their weight room,

1284
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 12: their players meeting rooms, the coaches offices, all that stuff

1285
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Speaker 12: is in the stadium, where in most cases the NFL

1286
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 12: team has their lease with the you know, the municipal stadium,

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01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 12: but they have their own headquarters somewhere else. So that's

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01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 12: a big that's a big sticking point here for this

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01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 12: because the Bengals in some capacity are using the stadium

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01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 12: every day three hundred and sixty five. I assume they

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01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 12: probably take you know, the Holidays office there. They have

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01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 12: operations in that building year round, versus, like I said,

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Speaker 12: most other teams do not. You know, they play they

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01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 12: they play there on on a Sunday or or you know,

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01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 12: Thursday night. They play their games there and then their

1296
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 12: back to their practice suburban practice facility or wherever they

1297
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 12: have their headquarters located throughout the week. And so that

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01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 12: that that's a big piece to this whole thing, is

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01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 12: that the Bengals have their operations there, and so that

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01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 12: throws all this stuff into you know, the whole issue

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Speaker 12: of can other events and high school games and tractor

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01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 12: pull you know, unster truck events and concerts using the

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01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 12: stadium And that's where it becomes a big sticky point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you make the point in the story that

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Speaker 1: it's been seven years since the last high school game

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Speaker 1: was played there, and you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't get to go last night. It's the

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01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 2: perfect for them.

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Speaker 1: Uh some years ago Elder played Highlands hockey team over there.

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Speaker 1: I think there was substantially more than twenty two thousand

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01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: for that. I don't really remember why it was a

1312
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 1: big deal, but it seems perfect for it. And is

1313
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 1: it fair to say, Jason, that the Bengals have been

1314
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 1: a little bit reluctant to let these things happen.

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Speaker 12: There's no doubt about it, and that they've been reluctant

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01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 12: to let it happen, you know, And I know I

1317
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 12: poked fun of this in the column too, because you know,

1318
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 12: we were celebrating that they were that they allowed this

1319
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 12: to happen, and they allowed it to happen in a

1320
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 12: quick turnaround because this game was originally scheduled to be

1321
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 12: played at Mason High School and that place certainly can't

1322
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 12: see twenty two thousand, and to make a point here,

1323
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 12: there's only two other stadiums in this region that can

1324
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 12: seat that many people besides take Ore, and that's Nitford

1325
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 12: Stadium that you see, and obviously a Great American ballplark.

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01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 12: So yes, they they've and and I do think and

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01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 12: I heard along the way that, you know, because the

1328
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 12: N Street House commissioners, the N Street House Commissioner Lisha Reese,

1329
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 12: they were pushing for this, They were pushing that there

1330
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 12: could be more, you know, non Bengals events being held

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01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 12: at the stadium. So I do think there was some

1332
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 12: softening up there of that. I did. I remember hearing

1333
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 12: that during the process of the lease agreement. You know,

1334
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 12: the fact though that you know, it all ultimately was

1335
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 12: decided that the language, you know, and again that can

1336
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 12: be opening, and that doesn't that's not a criticism of

1337
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 12: the Bengals necessarily, because they could be sitting there saying, yes,

1338
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 12: we are more willing to do those things than we

1339
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 12: were last time. The language is the same. But but

1340
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 12: bring us proposals or bring us events on an event

1341
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 12: by event basis is potentially what what could be going

1342
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 12: on there? And you know, when you're you're exactly right,

1343
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 12: my twenty two two thousand uh fans there. Last night

1344
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 12: I watched some of it on TV. Then I was

1345
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 12: falling up on all the clips and all the stuff

1346
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 12: on sincenat dot com and the media social media after

1347
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 12: the game. And I mean that that that's the kind

1348
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 12: of atmosphere you can't you can't have on on any

1349
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 12: school campus. Uh. You know, you can have that an

1350
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 12: elder as awesome as the pit is or at Saint

1351
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 12: X and or any other school around here, you can't

1352
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 12: have that many fans there. And then these Streethhouse made

1353
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 12: a great point, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity, uh,

1354
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 12: for for those for those guys. Now, if you dig

1355
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,839
Speaker 12: dig down into that, uh, maybe not for a handful

1356
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 12: of those guys, because I know, if you know, a

1357
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,919
Speaker 12: lot of the big time players come through those programs

1358
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 12: that they're going to go on to big time uh

1359
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 12: college football. I know there's a guy that's going to

1360
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 12: Notre Dame from Saint X. But you know, so maybe

1361
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 12: there's a you know, there's a guy here and there

1362
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 12: that's gonna make it to the NFL. But for the

1363
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 12: most part, that's a once in a life time opportunity

1364
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 12: for those players, those coaches, those parents, you know, brothers

1365
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 12: and sisters, grandparents and so everyone who was there last night,

1366
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 12: the players, everyone, they will remember that forever and how

1367
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 12: special that's special. Yeah, And as tough as it was

1368
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 12: for Elder, Like they're gonna remember, Wow, we got to

1369
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 12: play at Pey Corpse Stadium in a huge game, and

1370
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 12: we'll be talking about that game. You know, ten years

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01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 12: from now we'll write, you know, someone will be along

1372
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 12: the line. They'll be referencing, Oh, okay, you know they played

1373
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,679
Speaker 12: this game Elder and Saint X the in the storied rivalry.

1374
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 12: They played this game at pay Corse Stadium in front

1375
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 12: of twenty two thousand people. And those those guys are

1376
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 12: you know, players right now, they'll be telling their kids

1377
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 12: about about, you know, playing in that stadium and hoping, hey,

1378
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 12: maybe you'll get to do that someday. So I get

1379
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 12: what Denise street House is saying on that, and she's right,

1380
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 12: and so let's let's I think, and it's not about

1381
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 12: the touchy feely piece about it so so much is

1382
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 12: it's it's about along those lines, it's about allowing the

1383
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 12: community to use their facility more often. And again we

1384
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 12: don't know how many how much more often?

1385
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 14: Is that?

1386
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 15: You know?

1387
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 12: Is that is that one? Is that one? Is that

1388
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 12: one or two high school football games a year? Is

1389
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 12: that you know, just Tom Gamble, who does the great

1390
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 12: work on putting those high school classics and showdowns together.

1391
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 12: Is that him getting involved and bringing in you know, uh,

1392
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 12: you know, a preseason event or you know, and they

1393
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 12: play some posts and games there. Would love to see that.

1394
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 12: I mentioned the Reds. The Reds for ten years have

1395
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 12: done a big high school showcase where and they rotate

1396
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 12: it where high school baseball teams get to play on

1397
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,719
Speaker 12: the Great American Field, uh, you know, the Great American

1398
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 12: Ballpark field. And that's that's special. Those guys who played

1399
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 12: baseball will remember remember we got to play at the

1400
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 12: Red Stadium. Remember that forever. And this is yeah, big,

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01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 12: a big deal for kids.

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01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 2: You know.

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01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: Hey, Jason, Unfortunately we're out of time. This has been

1404
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 1: a great discussion and I certainly hope And let me

1405
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: just ask you one more question.

1406
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 2: Do you think the Bengals are going to loosen up

1407
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 2: on this a little bit?

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01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 12: I do, I really do. I think this was the

1409
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:22,759
Speaker 12: start of this was the start of something. And again

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01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 12: I don't know how many how many events, because you

1411
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 12: know it is you can only really use the place

1412
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 12: for what, you know, eight nine months of the year anyway,

1413
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 12: because of the weather. I don't know how many things

1414
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 12: can go in there, but I do think they are

1415
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 12: going to loosen up, and so I think this was

1416
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 12: the start of something. And I don't know if it's

1417
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 12: gonna be every Friday night every week in high school

1418
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 12: football games, or every other weekend some kind of concert

1419
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 12: or something like that, but I do think you'll see

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01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 12: some more things there throughout the year.

1421
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 2: I hope.

1422
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 1: So, Hey, I really appreciate you talking to us about it,

1423
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 1: and hope we can call on you again.

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01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 12: Thanks anytime, Mike.

1425
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 2: Okay, good day, you too, Thanks all right.

1426
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 1: Jason Williams from the Cincinnati Inquirer also heard frequently on

1427
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:09,839
Speaker 1: these airwaves talking about the situation with the Bengals Stadium

1428
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:13,799
Speaker 1: pay Course Stadium. You know, maybe the Bengals can loosen

1429
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 1: up a little bit on who does what they're they're

1430
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 1: a bit proprietary.

1431
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 2: I mean, we paid for it.

1432
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 1: We ought to have some input, and last night we

1433
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: did and from everything I've heard, it was just an

1434
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 1: outstanding success. Hey, we got to take a break, but

1435
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 1: we'll be back. Mike Allen, Saturday Midday, one hundred WLW.

1436
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 1: Mike Allen Saturday midday, closing half hour of saying, hey,

1437
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 1: we've been talking about it all morning and everybody around

1438
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:47,679
Speaker 1: the country's talking about it. These six Democrats, Senators and

1439
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 1: congress members yesterday, and we played it at the beginning

1440
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: of the show.

1441
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:53,719
Speaker 2: Put this video together.

1442
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 1: That the way I'm looking at it, they're encouraging service

1443
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:01,759
Speaker 1: members to disobey what I feel is a lawful order.

1444
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 1: And boy, you just you shudder at the precedent that

1445
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 1: that sets. And obviously the questions are are the orders lawful?

1446
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: And who determines what is lawful? Our next guest, you've

1447
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,839
Speaker 1: heard him a million times here, Steve Gooden, in addition

1448
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 1: to everything else he does, former federal prosecutor, former city

1449
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:27,719
Speaker 1: council member. Steve spent a long time in the army

1450
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,679
Speaker 1: jag in the reserves, as I did. And Steve really

1451
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,759
Speaker 1: appreciates you joining us this morning.

1452
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 7: Thank happy to be here. By good morning.

1453
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 1: How many years were you in the fighting one thirty

1454
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: fifth jag out there in Sharonville.

1455
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:46,759
Speaker 9: Although yeah, it was eleven years, good about just shire

1456
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 9: two years active duty, So okay.

1457
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 7: I did not hang around all the.

1458
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 9: Way through, but they did about you know, it was

1459
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 9: kind of a little different during the Iraq spent up,

1460
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 9: so we stayed a little you know, we didn't stick

1461
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 9: to those eight year and four year extensions. So yeah,

1462
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 9: I did just right it eleven years all in.

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01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: I got ten in, but I didn't do any active

1464
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: duty time. But anyway, that's neither here nor there. Your thoughts,

1465
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 1: Steve Gooden, then, I know you looked at it, your

1466
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 1: thoughts on this whole brew haha about this, And I

1467
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 1: do want to ask you too, in your opinion if

1468
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 1: you feel that the orders and I guess in general

1469
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 1: orders to quell dangers or whatever, if they're legal, and

1470
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,600
Speaker 1: who determines whether they're legal or not?

1471
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 9: Well, yeah, it's an interesting and kind of complicated issue.

1472
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 9: And let's just I mean, cutting, cutting right through it all.

1473
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 9: It's interesting what they what they're saying, what they mean

1474
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 9: is a.

1475
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:44,759
Speaker 7: Little different from what they say.

1476
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 12: I mean.

1477
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 9: I watched the video several times. I've read some of

1478
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 9: the public statements around it. They are clearly referencing the

1479
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 9: Trump administration's decision to deploy regular army troops in the

1480
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,719
Speaker 9: district of Columbia, where I believe, you know, it's pretty clear,

1481
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 9: because it's a federal territory for lack of a better word,

1482
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 9: that the president has some pretty clear right to do so.

1483
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 9: He has also deployed troops around federal buildings and other cities,

1484
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 9: and there has been discussion.

1485
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 7: Thirdly about activating.

1486
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 9: National Guard troops in other cities where there's been some

1487
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 9: sort of indication of you know, a potential you know,

1488
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 9: general lawlessness, disorder, what have you. Now, that third category

1489
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 9: is a very complicated thing and is are already being

1490
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 9: kind of litigated preemptively, and you really kind of need

1491
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 9: the governors say so, and the National Guards under a

1492
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 9: different standard and regular army. But that's what these guys

1493
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 9: are talking about. They are insinuating. The senators are sort

1494
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 9: of sending a message to some of the army troops

1495
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 9: in this very dramatic fashion, saying, you know, this may

1496
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 9: not be a lawful order, you know, for the Trump

1497
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 9: administration to send you into these domestic operations, and that

1498
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 9: you have an obligation to disobey a lawful order. Now,

1499
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 9: as you know, is generally true that a soldier, sailor

1500
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 9: marine really does have an obligation to push back against

1501
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 9: an unlawful order. But they don't have an obligation and

1502
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 9: cannot have an obligation to push back against what they

1503
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 9: think might be an unlawful policy. And that's something that

1504
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,639
Speaker 9: has been litigated up through the federal courts and again

1505
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 9: and again a lot of it in the Vietnam eras.

1506
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 9: So I mean, look, you know, when you talk about

1507
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 9: your obligations to disobey a lawful order, ninety percent of

1508
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:32,759
Speaker 9: the time you're talking about a superior officer or superior

1509
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:37,480
Speaker 9: enlisted instructing a soldier to violate the Geneva Convention.

1510
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 7: To the Rules of War.

1511
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 9: And when I was on active duty, a big part

1512
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 9: of my job was teaching that those.

1513
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 7: Rules to soldiers, right or wrong.

1514
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,919
Speaker 9: The United States is the signatory to all these international agreements,

1515
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 9: and there's certain ways we're supposed to treat our prisoners

1516
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,919
Speaker 9: in certain ways we're supposed to conduct ourselves in combat.

1517
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 9: That is the lawful order issue that's being you know,

1518
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 9: that is being discussed in the uniform cod to military conduct.

1519
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 9: Is that concept of if an officer tells you shoot

1520
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 9: that guy, and you're saying with the soldiers, saying, wait,

1521
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 9: he's unarmed or it's a kid. That's the kind of

1522
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 9: thing where you do have some obligation to push back.

1523
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 9: But in terms of general policies about where you are deployed,

1524
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 9: where you were being sent, where you were going to war.

1525
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 9: No soldier should be tasked or ever put in the

1526
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 9: position where they have to ask those questions. Those are

1527
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 9: policy questions. And there was a lot of litigation back

1528
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 9: in the Vietnam era where someone would get drafted and say,

1529
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 9: you know what, I I don't agree with the war,

1530
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 9: and they're like, well, too bad, Like go run for Congress, vote.

1531
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 7: You know, and try to do something that way.

1532
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 9: You don't get to as a soldier, question where you're deployed,

1533
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 9: how you're deployed, etc. Do you have an obligation to

1534
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:50,719
Speaker 9: push back against an unlawful order, particularly in a forward

1535
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 9: situation where you feel that the rules of war are

1536
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:57,480
Speaker 9: being violated Geneva conventions of being violated. Absolutely, that's well established.

1537
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 9: You know, there's president and that and all the way

1538
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 9: back into the Civil War through court's martial, and that's

1539
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 9: very much in our in our tradition. But do you

1540
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 9: have an obligation if if you think the unlawful order

1541
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 9: is your actual deployment? That's absurd because otherwise you're going

1542
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 9: to have all You're going to be trying to fight

1543
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 9: out public policy questions and legislative questions and and so forth.

1544
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 9: You know, in the court martial system, and it just

1545
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 9: it's it would it would absolutely lead to chaos. And

1546
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 9: all six of these senators should.

1547
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:27,679
Speaker 7: Have known better.

1548
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 9: Yes, I don't know how they got there or and

1549
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 9: I guess they're all ambitious and they and they they

1550
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,879
Speaker 9: know there's a lot of fear in some urban areas

1551
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 9: of this idea that the idea is very much out

1552
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 9: there that Trump is going to send troops in quote unquote,

1553
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 9: and I guess they're playing to that, and I guess

1554
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 9: they see some political advantage, but it really does put

1555
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 9: the rank and file troops in middle and a lot

1556
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 9: of these young guys maybe they're watching that they can do.

1557
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 9: I have an obligation somehow to push back if I

1558
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 9: don't like where where the Trump administration is sending me.

1559
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 9: And look, it is very limited that they're There are

1560
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 9: times where it is lawful for a president to send

1561
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 9: troops or to active order to work with the governor

1562
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 9: and activate national guards troops in domestic operations. I mean,

1563
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:15,520
Speaker 9: it's pretty routine in times of natural disasters and hurricanes

1564
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 9: and things of that nature. There's a lot of precedent there.

1565
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 9: It's a little more it's not as well developed on

1566
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 9: this issue of general lawlessness and violence in cities. But

1567
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 9: you know, there are obligates, there are times when it

1568
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 9: can happen. I mean, we've had the National Guard. Back

1569
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 9: in nineteen sixty eight after the assassination of Martin Luther King,

1570
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 9: we had a National Guard deployment in the city. We

1571
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 9: came very close in two thousand and one after the

1572
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 9: Timothy Thomas riots. So it's not like it's never happened.

1573
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 9: It's not a good thing, but it's absolutely there, and

1574
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 9: there's no way the rank and file should be put

1575
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:48,719
Speaker 9: in the middle of these six.

1576
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Steve, I looked at the Oath of enlistment for

1577
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: enlisted people and I'm not going to read all of it,

1578
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 1: but he didn't want to read part of it to you.

1579
01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: Says some things in introduction and that I will obey

1580
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 1: the orders of the President of the United States and

1581
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 1: the orders of the officers appointed over me. So I mean,

1582
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 1: I know that's not the be all to end all,

1583
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 1: but as a policy situation, it's like, hey, you know,

1584
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:18,679
Speaker 1: the president is the commander in chief and everyone down

1585
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 1: the chain that's above you and rank. You got to

1586
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 1: do what they tell you to do, and you make

1587
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 1: a good point. I didn't think about it looking at

1588
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 1: it from a policy perspective. Let me ask you this,

1589
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 1: who determines whether the order is lawful or not? I

1590
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 1: just think it's putting these young men and women Army, Navy,

1591
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 1: Air Force, and Marines in a really bad spot.

1592
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 9: Well, that's absolutely right. I mean, basically, what would happen,

1593
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 9: you know, is it would It would begin with the

1594
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 9: court martial. It will begin with someone, you know, say,

1595
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:57,839
Speaker 9: basically refusing to carry out the order of being court martialed.

1596
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 9: Their defense would be that they felt the order was unlawful,

1597
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 9: and then if they're convicted that the court martial and

1598
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 9: the military justice system it would work its way out

1599
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 9: up to the through the kind of joint court of

1600
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 9: appeal they have in the military justice system, and then

1601
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 9: from there it can go into the federal system. So

1602
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 9: you would, in all likelihood see a scenario if indeed

1603
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 9: this all comes to pass, where it would end up

1604
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 9: in one of the federal appellate courts making the final call.

1605
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 1: You know, it's just a shame that we apparently have

1606
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: to get there. I don't know about you, but I

1607
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:35,759
Speaker 1: look at these things with amazement. It's hard to believe

1608
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 1: that they would want to put these service members in

1609
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 1: that position. It's so so irresponsible, And I don't know,

1610
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 1: do you think that some type of I don't know

1611
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 1: how to put it. Let me ask you, do you

1612
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:56,879
Speaker 1: think there should be some accountability for these six congress

1613
01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 1: people for doing this. I had a guy called Earl

1614
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 1: in the morning who mentioned that he didn't think any

1615
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 1: of them were reservist. And you know, I'm not really

1616
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 1: talking about going after them.

1617
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:11,720
Speaker 2: Legally, but I don't know.

1618
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:16,600
Speaker 1: Something else maybe censure, but the UCMJ does apply to reservist.

1619
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 1: I think that happened when I was in so I

1620
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess that's a long way of asking

1621
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 1: what do you think should happen to these congress people?

1622
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 9: Well, Mike, you're asking the wrong guy, because every time

1623
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 9: I watch a movie a few good men. I take

1624
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 9: the side of the Jack Nicholson character. I still think

1625
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,720
Speaker 9: he was wrong that court martialed he was trying to

1626
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 9: I think Santiago is a Week was not a good

1627
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 9: soldier or marine. So I'm on the other side of that.

1628
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 9: But no, but you're absolutely right. If any of these

1629
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 9: congress members are still in or senators, then you're all

1630
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 9: senators are still in the reserves in any capacity. Absolutely,

1631
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:55,759
Speaker 9: the u CMJ or CO military conduct still does apply

1632
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 9: to them. They could be court martialed. Trump has suggested

1633
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 9: it's a form of sedition or punishable by death. I

1634
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 9: think that might be overstating it a little bit because

1635
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 9: I think, you know, for it to be actually, you know,

1636
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 9: meet the legal standard of sedition, they have to give

1637
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 9: them a if they basically had come out and said

1638
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 9: all the way, hey, if you're deployed in an urban

1639
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 9: area and you don't think that the President or the

1640
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 9: administration have followed checked all the boxes for that kind

1641
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 9: of domestic deployment, you have an obviasion to fight back.

1642
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 9: If they said something like that, I think they'd be

1643
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 9: in a lot more trouble. There is a little bit

1644
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 9: of a of a cowardly sort of the way this

1645
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 9: is their statement is wordsmithed themselves. That's sort of like

1646
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 9: Bill Clinton way of saying, well, it's not really what

1647
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:40,679
Speaker 9: I meant, kind of kind of covered air. So it's

1648
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 9: not a I think it's going to be hard to

1649
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 9: And they also have some general First Amendment arguments they

1650
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 9: can make about this being a policy matter, so they

1651
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 9: don't come all the way out and say soldiers don't

1652
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 9: go into these urban areas they can. They're talking in

1653
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 9: general terms. It's very clear from the context what they're

1654
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 9: talking about. But yeah, I think hopefully for them, they're

1655
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 9: smart enough to know if all of them are out

1656
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 9: and have met all their reserve requirements to post active duty,

1657
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 9: then they're probably outside the ucum jack. But if any

1658
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 9: of them are still in the reserves, that is something

1659
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 9: where they could be investigated by their friendly local jaggutary.

1660
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 1: Who would make the decision on that, Steve, if something

1661
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 1: like that were to happen.

1662
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 9: Well, it will be their commanding officer in the reserves,

1663
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 9: you know what, it would have a duty and obligation

1664
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 9: to investigate that prefer it. You know, it always begins

1665
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 9: in the chain of command. So you know, any kind

1666
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 9: of court martial referral always, you know, lawfully has to

1667
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 9: begin with their commanding officer, and that's where that would start.

1668
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 1: Gotcha, Hey, we got about five minutes left. Let me

1669
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 1: switch gears on you talk a little politics for a minute.

1670
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: Very sorry to learn that you didn't make it back

1671
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 1: to city council.

1672
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 2: The results of this thing.

1673
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 1: Just tell me, Steve, pretty much what I already knew,

1674
01:32:56,640 --> 01:33:01,080
Speaker 1: but puts an exclamation point on it. The Democrats, the

1675
01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 1: discipline that they have in these elections as far as

1676
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 1: turnout and voting for the Democrat candidate is really something

1677
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:14,959
Speaker 1: to behold. I mean, you look at it. Ryan James

1678
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 1: was nineth he won, Liz Keating came in tenth. But

1679
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 1: there's a very serious, severe drop off.

1680
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 2: I guess with that.

1681
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 1: Ryan got thirty four thousand votes, Liz got about ten thousand.

1682
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 1: Under that, I don't know your thoughts on that, and

1683
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 1: I also want to know too, what is on the

1684
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,000
Speaker 1: horizon for the Charter Party.

1685
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:42,639
Speaker 9: Well, Mike, I'd love to run out the clock talking

1686
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 9: about a few good men in court Marcials.

1687
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, we got our.

1688
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 9: Look, the non incumbent got our butts kicked last month,

1689
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:55,679
Speaker 9: earlier this month, and there's no question about it. And look,

1690
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 9: it was just straight slate voting. I mean, there were

1691
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 9: two or three factors, and we've been digging through and

1692
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 9: to see.

1693
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 7: Sort of what went wrong.

1694
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 9: I mean, we kind of had a pretty good sense

1695
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:07,679
Speaker 9: of where it was heading about those last you know.

1696
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 7: Three or four days.

1697
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 9: We really felt like if the election had been held

1698
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:14,760
Speaker 9: in the summer, I think we would have been at

1699
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 9: a very different place. I think we were winning and

1700
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 9: had defined the issues, and city Hall was responding, particularly

1701
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 9: to those of us on the Charter slate, and vertly

1702
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 9: to me because we were really bringing it to the

1703
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 9: mayor and council on the crime issue and the public

1704
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 9: safety issue and the roads and so forth. You know,

1705
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 9: we were really hitting him hard. And they did respond.

1706
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't think it was the right thing

1707
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 9: to do necessarily, but they did get rid of the

1708
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 9: police chief. They did change the way to the officers

1709
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:43,719
Speaker 9: are deployed downtown. They have, you know, in the last

1710
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 9: few weeks. They did just enough, I think to signal

1711
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 9: the voters that they were looking. But at the end

1712
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 9: of the day, I think there's two things. The turnout,

1713
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 9: even though at thirty percent it wasn't busmal. I mean,

1714
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 9: we have at least three hundred and seven thousand people

1715
01:34:57,439 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 9: living in the city, so you know, Ryan James got

1716
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 9: roughly ten percent of the residents voted for him. That's

1717
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 9: not some gigantic mandate. So you have a low turnout,

1718
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:11,600
Speaker 9: and then you have very disciplined slate voters, all of

1719
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 9: whom were told that people like me and Liz and uh,

1720
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 9: and Smitherman, all all of us, by the way, who

1721
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:21,800
Speaker 9: brid the polling had named better name ID and better

1722
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:24,640
Speaker 9: positive name ID than most of the folks.

1723
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:26,599
Speaker 7: Who want Ironically it doesn't matter.

1724
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:29,759
Speaker 9: But they were told over and over and over again,

1725
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:33,759
Speaker 9: these Democratic voters that we were, you know, that secretly

1726
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 9: aligned with MAGA. We were going to bring troops into

1727
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:39,560
Speaker 9: the streets, we were going to bring fascism to Cincinnati,

1728
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 9: et cetera, et cetera. So the people who did and

1729
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 9: it's so funny. My daughter is a Democrat who lives

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Speaker 9: with me, and I was getting the mailers about myself here.

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Speaker 7: It was.

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Speaker 9: It was those kind of well it opened her eyes.

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01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:53,799
Speaker 9: She's like, this is crazy, and I'm like, hey, welcome

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Speaker 9: to it, kid. This is the stuff they don't teach

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01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 9: you about it. Your professors didn't tell you how mean

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01:35:58,080 --> 01:35:58,599
Speaker 9: this can be.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 9: But but yeah, I think they knew it was likely

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01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 9: going to be a low turnout. Corey Bowman at the

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01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 9: end of the day, didn't, you know, excited parts of

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01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 9: the Republican base. But he also I think kind of

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01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:13,680
Speaker 9: hurt some of the independent candidates like me and Smitherman,

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01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 9: because you know, we weren't on that Republican sample ballot,

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01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 9: even though we clearly were law and order candidates, So

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01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 9: you know, we were kind of getting it from both sides.

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Speaker 9: You know, we were there were it just wasn't the

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Speaker 9: year for independent type candidates to break through, which is

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01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 9: weird because we've always had that tradition in Cincinnati. But

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01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 9: we're going to stay active. We're going to be looking

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Speaker 9: at additional candidates. We're also going to be looking at

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01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 9: some ballot initiatives particularly. I think one of the big

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Speaker 9: issues that emerged here from the people I've talked to

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Speaker 9: is just there's so many people who live in the townships,

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01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 9: who live in surrounding counties, who have business here, who

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01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 9: love the city, who have spent their money here, but

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01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 9: they can't vote and they don't have any say, and

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01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 9: it drives them crazy. And of course the city cannot

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01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 9: sustain itself or live without them. So you know, when

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01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 9: we look at what Cleveland's done in Indianapolis has done,

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Speaker 9: They've they've made some stabs toward metro government to try

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01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:13,760
Speaker 9: to help make that more fair, and I think that's

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01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 9: something where the Charter people are going to be putting

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Speaker 9: some thoughts to it. Because if you live in Delhi Township,

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01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 9: but your business is downtown and you want to take

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01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 9: your kids to supporting events downtown, and you're disgusted by

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01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 9: shootings in the middle of the work day on Fountain

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01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:30,800
Speaker 9: Square and you don't feel safe coming downtown, but you

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01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 9: want to be a part of the city still and

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01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 9: consider yourself a Cincinnati and even though you live in

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01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 9: the township, we have to find some way for those

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01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 9: voices to be heard too.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm glad to hear you say Charter is going

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01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:45,719
Speaker 1: to stay active. I think it's helpful for the city.

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Speaker 1: I really do. Hey, Steve, I appreciate this conversation and

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01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 1: hope we can call.

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01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:51,560
Speaker 2: On you again.

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01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 7: Anytime. You take care of my Okay.

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01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 1: Thanks, all right, that was Steve good and boy had

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01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 1: some good scoop, both on the political end about the

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01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 1: city and from the UCMJ angle with what those Democrat

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01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 1: Congress people did yesterday. Bad bad, bad news. And we'll

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01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 1: see how it plays out. Hey, I am finished, So

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Speaker 1: I am out of here. As always, I want to

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01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 1: thank my great producer Liam for keep me out of trouble. Hey,

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Speaker 14: My buddies from the army are all gone.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm really alone. No matter what you're going through.

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Speaker 2: I keep getting calls about the bills, and I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to get a job.

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Speaker 12: I feels so stuck.

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Speaker 5: Excuse me, I know you have a nine o'clock so

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Speaker 5: I'll keep this short. I'm the business suit in the

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Speaker 5: back of your closet. You wore me nearly every day

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Speaker 5: before your office went quote casual. I used to be

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Speaker 5: the CEO of your closet. Now I'm just that one

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Speaker 5: intern no one ever talks to. I always thought you'd

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Speaker 5: circle back with me, get granular, keep me in the pipeline,

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Speaker 5: but nada, nothing. Don't you remember the McKittrick presentation. You

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Speaker 5: spilled coffee on me and I still looked amazing during

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Speaker 5: the breakout talk back Q and A. So I think

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Speaker 5: it's time for me to move on. I've got a

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Speaker 5: great resume and I absolutely crush it in interviews. Okay,

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Speaker 5: let's make this a clean break shift the paradigm. The

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