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Speaker 1: with Lisa Murkowski. Jeremy Rosenthal, it's great to have you

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Speaker 7: Done anything to indicate it would give you the sign

436
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Speaker 7: that like, oh yeah, things are on the up. They

437
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Speaker 7: obviously had a big win last year or a issue.

438
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Speaker 7: It kind of got discounted because they didn't have Sam

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Speaker 7: Levit in that game. So and then they played the

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Speaker 7: first game against Nebraska, and right, it would have been

441
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Speaker 7: if they had upset Nebraska, right, that would have really

442
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Speaker 7: some chocolate. So it really took a few weeks, maybe

443
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Speaker 7: even more to realize like, oh yeah, actually these guys

444
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Speaker 7: are pretty good and out of one for Tony and

445
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Speaker 7: I thought, actually last week's when was probably the most

446
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Speaker 7: impressive yet just lining up and running it down my throat,

447
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Speaker 7: you know, yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, it was, and I think it's it's going to

449
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Speaker 1: be maybe the showcase game that your colleague, Justin Williams

450
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Speaker 1: at the at the Athletic has at the second best

451
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Speaker 1: game in college football today, certainly tonight, but in the

452
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Speaker 1: in the game day, I'm just you know, I think

453
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Speaker 1: in college football anymore, if you've got a quarterback, and

454
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Speaker 1: the quarterback can maneuver and maneuver with players he might

455
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Speaker 1: not be completely familiar with because of the portal and whatnot,

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Speaker 1: I think you've got a leg up. And here's Brendan Soresby,

457
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Speaker 1: who's just I marvel at what he does on a

458
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Speaker 1: daily basis. He kind of reminds me in a lot

459
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Speaker 1: of ways of Baker Mayfield and just his escapability and

460
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Speaker 1: his ability to make plays where there none seemed to be.

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Speaker 1: But that's everything in college football today. If you've got

462
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Speaker 1: a quarterback that can do that, the ceiling is pretty high,

463
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Speaker 1: is it not.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And give them a lot of credit because you know,

465
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Speaker 7: unfortunately these days, if you have a good quarterback, the

466
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Speaker 7: next thing you have to do is make sure they

467
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Speaker 7: don't leave, you know, especially if a big ten or

468
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Speaker 7: SEC program, a deep pocket program is going to come calling.

469
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Speaker 7: But I know they gave him a really nice deal

470
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Speaker 7: kept for Insource. He kept them in place, and boy

471
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Speaker 7: has he really shined this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they went out and got wide receivers to

473
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Speaker 1: throw to. He didn't have anybody really of any note

474
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Speaker 1: last season. But now he's got Jeff cald Well, he's

475
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Speaker 1: got Cyrus Allen, he's got Caleb Goodie, he's got the

476
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Speaker 1: tight end that came prancing down seventy one from Ohio State,

477
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Speaker 1: Joe Royer. So he's got weapons to throw too, and

478
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Speaker 1: they've got some stability on defense. And quite frankly, it

479
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Speaker 1: was a year ago this time when a lot of

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Speaker 1: people were wondering if Scott Saderfield had what it takes

481
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Speaker 1: to coaching the Big twelve. I don't think it's that

482
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Speaker 1: way anymore. I think they've they've figured out this whole

483
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Speaker 1: portal thing quickly, where a lot of their continent operas

484
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Speaker 1: are struggling. What off teams, what of coaching staffs? Figure

485
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Speaker 1: it out? And others don't. Is it all money? Is

486
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Speaker 1: it all deals in this day and age, or what else?

487
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Speaker 1: What else could it be?

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Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I was one.

489
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Speaker 7: Of the skeptics of Scott got Batterfield, So kudos to

490
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Speaker 7: him for for kind of putting those doubts to rest Well,

491
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Speaker 7: I think it's twofold. In terms of your question, Yes,

492
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Speaker 7: you got to have an I own money, nobody nobody

493
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Speaker 7: that's winning these days doing it without paying their player

494
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Speaker 7: as well. But also you got to get the right players.

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Speaker 7: And I mean, for State spent a ton of money

496
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Speaker 7: on their transfers the last two years and they're terrible.

497
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Speaker 7: They they either picked the wrong players or they haven't

498
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Speaker 7: dissolved them. Well, you know, so it's not like, Okay,

499
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Speaker 7: we made a bunch of deals with ignorantee of success.

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Speaker 7: Right maybe if you're Texas Tech and your billionaire get

501
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Speaker 7: you like all the best transfers.

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Speaker 6: But so yeah, step one is having the money and

503
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Speaker 6: the resources and frankly a lot.

504
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Speaker 3: Of money, but.

505
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Speaker 7: Knowing how to allocate it, especially with the revenue share now.

506
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Speaker 7: But step two is finding the right players. And I

507
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Speaker 7: do think that sometimes, you know, in terms of high

508
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Speaker 7: score recruiting, like high score recruiting, they start studying those

509
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Speaker 7: guys as sophomores, maybe even earlier, do a lot of

510
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Speaker 7: time to evaluate high score cruit transfer portal. Kid who

511
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Speaker 7: was in the portal on Tuesday, he's visiting your campus

512
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Speaker 7: on Thursday.

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Speaker 6: And so I do think a lot of people.

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Speaker 7: You know, miss because they don't have a lot of

515
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Speaker 7: time frankly to scout these guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, and the other thing too, I think the successful

518
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Speaker 1: stabs are stabs that actually know what culture is. You

519
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Speaker 1: hear a lot of coaches preach about culture and family

520
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Speaker 1: and all that other stuff, but to actually implement it.

521
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Speaker 2: Is another thing.

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Speaker 1: In this day and age, you go back ten years

523
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Speaker 1: ago to use your recruiting analogy. That's how you acquired players.

524
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Speaker 1: You might get a transfer, sure, but most of your

525
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Speaker 1: roster camp recruiting. So the player would arrive as freshman

526
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Speaker 1: and then learn to integrate his self into what other

527
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Speaker 1: players are and where they're from and all that in

528
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Speaker 1: essence grow up together. Now it's not that way, and

529
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Speaker 1: culture becomes so much more important because if you don't

530
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Speaker 1: have that, if you don't have an inclusive culture, people

531
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Speaker 1: aren't going to get to know each other, and all

532
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Speaker 1: of a sudden you have dysfunction. I think that's what's

533
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Speaker 1: happening at a lot of these schools.

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Speaker 3: Right The athletic My colleagues are the athletic.

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Speaker 7: Christ Fldman Ropperso had an excellent story of Friday about

536
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Speaker 7: what went wrong for Brian Kelly Lsu and that was

537
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Speaker 7: that was a big, big part of it, because there

538
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Speaker 7: was an assistant in there quoted saying, it's actually more

539
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Speaker 7: important now than ever because you are bringing in, in

540
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Speaker 7: many ways, a whole new roster every year and you

541
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Speaker 7: don't have a lot of time to get guys you know,

542
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Speaker 7: kind of familiar with your culture and your system and

543
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Speaker 7: bought in.

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Speaker 6: And so I think a.

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Speaker 7: Lot of these times when we see highly touted teams,

546
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Speaker 7: Oh they got a great portal class, they're gonna be

547
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Speaker 7: great this year, and they fall apart, it's because of that.

548
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Speaker 7: You can't just have a band of guys who come

549
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Speaker 7: in from all over the place.

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Speaker 6: And I mean it's not the NFL, right, the NFL.

551
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 7: These guys professionals, They change teams, they know what to do.

552
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Speaker 6: So yeah, it's really important.

553
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Speaker 7: I mean look at Indiana clearly, for Signetti has built

554
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Speaker 7: a plan and a culture there and they get guys

555
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Speaker 7: to come and buy in and they're out there kicking

556
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Speaker 7: the race bus. They do not have obviously the kind

557
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Speaker 7: of resources that Ohio State or Michigan have, but.

558
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Speaker 6: They got it right. I mean they really did.

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Speaker 3: Like they are one of these team.

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Speaker 2: Programs that got their portal guys, right, Yeah, and they

561
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Speaker 2: got a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They have Mendoza, and you know where he didn't work

563
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Speaker 1: at one school, he's working there. So you would have

564
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Speaker 1: to think, for example, with Signetti in Bloomington, you would

565
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Speaker 1: have to think that a he knows what he's doing,

566
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Speaker 1: and he is a staff that knows what he's doing.

567
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Speaker 1: But it kind of it doesn't You know, you're right,

568
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Speaker 1: you could throw an all star team together, but it

569
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Speaker 1: it doesn't always work, and oftentimes it doesn't work. So

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Speaker 1: I look at Indiana if you're if you're surprised by

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Speaker 1: what has happened here in the at the University of

572
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Speaker 1: Sin today, I'm surprised by what's going on at Indiana.

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Speaker 1: I thought they'd be good, but number two in the country,

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Speaker 1: no way. Were you surprised or are you surprised that

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Speaker 1: they are number two in the country.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess not now, But I thought that. I mean,

577
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Speaker 7: I knew people were sleeping on them coming to this season.

578
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Speaker 7: I thought they would still be really good, but they've

579
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Speaker 7: just taken it to a whole other level. I mean,

580
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Speaker 7: they're different.

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Speaker 8: I thought, you know, uh Rourke was a really good

582
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Speaker 8: quarterback with Brandom.

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Speaker 7: And Doza is on a whole other level. And their defense,

584
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Speaker 7: their defense.

585
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Speaker 6: Is really taking a step up. We got them last.

586
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Speaker 7: Year, you know, and when they finally you know, first

587
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Speaker 7: of all they had they had such a week competition

588
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Speaker 7: for most last year, you didn't really know how good

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Speaker 7: they were. And then when they finally got to Ohio

590
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Speaker 7: State and that's a Notre Dame, they really got exposed

591
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Speaker 7: in the trenches this year. They played Iowa very early

592
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Speaker 7: in the season. Obviously, the game at Oregon, and I

593
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Speaker 7: mean the game against Illinois obviously was the most eye opening.

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Speaker 3: And they are.

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Speaker 7: Kicking every respot physically, so really good team. At first,

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Speaker 7: I said, you know, people would say in Indiana win

597
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Speaker 7: the national championship, and I say, absolutely not. They're really good,

598
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Speaker 7: They're not on that level. I do now think you

599
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Speaker 7: have to take them seriously.

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Speaker 6: As the national championship contender.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Chattiwi Stewart Mandeldiathletic dot com. We're talking college football,

602
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Speaker 1: you see, and Utah later on tonight. I guess at

603
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Speaker 1: the other end of the spectrum is the University of Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: And I hate to speculate on anybody's job, but I

605
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Speaker 1: would think the clock is running out on Mark Stoops.

606
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Speaker 1: They've lost some games in the SEC this year, and

607
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Speaker 1: other than the loss to Georgia, I'm sorry, other than

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Speaker 1: the last Tech lost to Texas, they've been basically blown out.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm wondering, are you seeing the same thing too,

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Speaker 1: that maybe this isn't going to be a happy ending

611
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Speaker 1: at the end of the year for Stoops.

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Speaker 7: Other than yeah, a very nice buyout, it seems like

613
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Speaker 7: the Kentucky fans have really given up on them for sure.

614
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Speaker 7: Now I'm from a distance saying care for what you

615
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Speaker 7: wish for. I mean, he had the best run of

616
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Speaker 7: any Kentucky coach in Spare Bryant. It hasn't been as

617
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Speaker 7: great recently, to say the least. They kind of bottomed out.

618
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Speaker 7: But you know, you look at this market, this coaching cycle,

619
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Speaker 7: and all the jobs that are already opened, some very

620
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Speaker 7: attractive jobs in there. There are not enough good coaches

621
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Speaker 7: to go around. There are not we might see twelve thirteen,

622
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Speaker 7: fifteen powerful jobs open, and there are not fifteen really

623
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Speaker 7: good candidates out there. So if you're Kentucky and you're

624
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Speaker 7: kind of further down the pecking order, you know, how

625
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Speaker 7: can you be sure, you're actually going to upgrade for

626
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Speaker 7: Mark Stoops, but look, program has to deal with I mean,

627
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Speaker 7: this is this is a this is you're playing for

628
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Speaker 7: the fans, right, You've got to You've got to keep

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Speaker 7: your fans engaged. And for instance, with Penn State, a

630
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Speaker 7: lot of people who maybe weren't as familiar were like,

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Speaker 7: how can they fire a dance? Franklin, you got such

632
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Speaker 7: a good record, And I said, did you did you

633
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Speaker 7: see after they lost to Northwestern at home? I mean,

634
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Speaker 7: I've never seen a crowd be so nasty to the coach.

635
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Speaker 4: They they had to pull the plug.

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Speaker 6: And you know, I'm not.

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Speaker 7: There in Kentucky to know whether it's reached that depth

638
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Speaker 7: just yet.

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Speaker 1: It's not good, I can tell you that. And fans

640
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: are reactive anyway to begin with. So but given the

641
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Speaker 1: fact that I mean, he's you know, he played Texas

642
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Speaker 1: tough and had a chance to win that game, but

643
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Speaker 1: there was some questionable coaching calls in the overtime of

644
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Speaker 1: that game. But I mean have with Tennessee and with

645
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Speaker 1: South Carolina, with Georgia and it, I mean, they weren't

646
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Speaker 1: even really the same that they didn't go along on

647
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Speaker 1: the same field with those teams it was, so I

648
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Speaker 1: think that's probably part of the problem that's exacerbated his situation.

649
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Speaker 1: What games are you watching today? Are you going to

650
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Speaker 1: go to any or or are you going to just

651
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Speaker 1: be a television addict today?

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Speaker 7: You know most weeks now and just a television addicts.

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Speaker 7: I need to the verses of my job. It's more

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Speaker 7: important for me to see all the games instead of

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Speaker 7: just some of the games. The YouTube TV might make

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Speaker 7: that difficult for me. Thankful, We'll see what happens there.

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Speaker 7: It's you know, it's one of those weeks where I

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Speaker 7: look at the matchups and I'm like, something crazy is

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Speaker 7: going to happen. I don't know what exactly, something crazy

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Speaker 7: is going to happen. I am interested to see Vanderbilk

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Speaker 7: go to Texas because Vandy, you know, is kind of the.

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Speaker 6: Talk of college football right now, and Texas is not.

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Speaker 7: Then what we thought they would be, and arch manning

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Speaker 7: status is in doubt. So you know that really that

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Speaker 7: really interests me in a lot of front. Interested to

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Speaker 7: see a cocktail party in Georgia and Florida because in

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Speaker 7: that game, it never matters. You know, Florida fired their coach.

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Speaker 7: They know a great record doesn't matter, Like I guarant

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Speaker 7: to you, they will. They will show up to that

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Speaker 7: game and then an interesting swing game if you will,

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Speaker 7: USC and Nebraska because whoever wins that it becomes talked

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Speaker 7: about as possibly a fourth they can playoff team, and

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Speaker 7: whoever loses is definitely out. But I will say the

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Speaker 7: game I am most excited for all the game is

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Speaker 7: definitely Cincinnati Utah. I guess you guys got to stay

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Speaker 7: up late.

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Speaker 6: For that one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it's it's you know, there's a blessing

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Speaker 1: and occurs to that, but no, no, I think if

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Speaker 1: there's a reason to stay up late tonight, it's Cincinnati Utah.

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Speaker 1: And the schedule kind of falls nicely because right before

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Speaker 1: that you've got Oklahoma Tennessee, so you could you'll probably

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Speaker 1: be able to get it most if not all, of

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Speaker 1: that Oklahoma Tennessee game and before Cincinnati and Utah. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: great catching up with you, Stuart Stewartmandel Theathletic dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Thanks all right, thank you, bet anytime, anytime. Seventeen to seven,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State over Penn State. Just under two minutes to

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Speaker 1: Columbus and IU at Maryland is going to be another one.

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Speaker 1: We're about two hours away from that kickoff. Iun two

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Speaker 1: for US, it is one twenty six on this Saturday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Straight ahead. FC Cincinnati can make short work of Columbus,

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Speaker 1: will they. We'll chat with a soccer influencer of great

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Speaker 1: note here in the greater Cincinnati area. Next on seven

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Speaker 1: hundred wlw WLW Welcome back. I'm ken Brew two o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump works well on the international stage nationally. You

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Speaker 1: sit a few roadblocks thanks to these whack them old

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Speaker 1: judges running around in their robes banging their gabbles on

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Speaker 1: anything they could find. Snap seems to be the big

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Speaker 1: thing now. Is Snap a sham? And are we really

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Speaker 1: getting the true story from the media regarding Snap? Well,

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Speaker 1: the answer to the true story from the media on

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Speaker 1: anything is no, but we're going to get into that

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Speaker 1: at two o'clock. Meanwhile, tomorrow, oh wait, no, one more thing.

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Speaker 1: Ohio State seventeen, Penn State fourteen seventeen fourteen, Ohio State

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Speaker 1: at the half up in Columbus. Meanwhile, as we can

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Speaker 1: say now, tomorrow night in Columbus, it's game two between

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Speaker 1: the Columbus Crew and your FC Cincinnati. FC Cincinnati up

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Speaker 1: one game to none in the best of three. They

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Speaker 1: win tomorrow, it's over. They lose. They're back here next

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Speaker 1: weekend for match number three. FC Cincinnati can end it

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Speaker 1: tomorrow six thirty kick in Columbus. In the hell is

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Speaker 1: real Dettterby playoff? By the way, I mean, isn't that

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Speaker 1: a little contentious when you hear these announcers say Derby,

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Speaker 1: the thing is spelled Derby. That's Derby, not Dutterby. It's

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Speaker 1: like it's you know, we're in the middle of County Cork. No,

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Speaker 1: it's Derby. Nevertheless, detr By Derby. We welcome in one

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Speaker 1: of the great soccer influencers in the greater Cincinnati area.

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Speaker 1: He's our good buddy DJ Sweitzer, and he's standing by

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Speaker 1: to join us right now to talk about this Game

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Speaker 1: two between Columbus and FC Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: DJ, how are you on this glorious day.

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Speaker 6: I'm great, Ken, glad to be joining you once again.

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Speaker 1: Why do they call it detrby when it's really spelled

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Speaker 1: derby d erb Why can you explain to me why

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Speaker 1: they do that on Apple TV?

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Speaker 2: I'm mesmerized by this.

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Speaker 8: I think it's a bit leaning into the way the

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Speaker 8: English pronouncers technically say it, so I think it's another

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Speaker 8: one of those little English uganisms, squeaking its way in there.

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Speaker 1: So in England, then when they say something isn't going right,

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Speaker 1: would they say something ain't going right just to lean

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Speaker 1: into America a little bit?

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Speaker 2: Do you think that happens?

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Speaker 6: Maybe during the NFL broadcast, you know.

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Speaker 1: So this match that was down here on Monday night,

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Speaker 1: I thought, clearly FC Cincinnati played the better game. I

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Speaker 1: thought they had the better opportunities, couldn't put the ball

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Speaker 1: in the back of the net for various reasons. But

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Speaker 1: I think By and Laura je FC Cincinnati fairly dominated

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Speaker 1: that game. Was I watching the same game you were watching?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I mean it was definitely, you know, a match where

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Speaker 8: two different teams are really playing two different styles of soccer,

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Speaker 8: and we definitely saw some ways where both teams had

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Speaker 8: some opportunities, but at Sea since A definitely were the

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Speaker 8: side that had the better of the opportunities. They had

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Speaker 8: better expected goals, better chances overall, more chances overall. They

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Speaker 8: definitely looked the SA that dominated and I'm not at

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Speaker 8: all surprised they came away with the win.

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Speaker 1: I was so afraid during that match because we've seen

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Speaker 1: this several times this year where they dominate a match

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Speaker 1: and they can't put the ball on the back of

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Speaker 1: the net. And was it more of what they weren't doing?

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Speaker 1: Were they Is this still something that dogs them even

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Speaker 1: though they've made changes, radical changes with the folks up front,

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Speaker 1: or was it just the way Columbus plays And it's

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Speaker 1: one of those matchups what side do you fall on?

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Speaker 8: So I think it's a bit more on how Columbus plays.

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Speaker 8: They're a very possession oriented, conservative type of side where

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Speaker 8: they like to hold on the ball and they like

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Speaker 8: to get men behind the ball and it's a very

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Speaker 8: tough nut to crack sometimes and even with the firepower

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Speaker 8: that pat Noun has at a disposal.

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Speaker 6: With the Secason Snatty squad.

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Speaker 8: It can be tough to break it down, and like

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Speaker 8: you said, a couple of those opportunities that went, you know,

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Speaker 8: without a finish early on in the match. It definitely

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Speaker 8: leaves you nervous, and it's one of those things as

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Speaker 8: you get later on in the match that you're like, geez,

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Speaker 8: that they don't convert one e Columbus sneaks in here.

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Speaker 1: I thought a vander who's obviously their best player, but

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Speaker 1: I thought it was guilty of playing a little hero

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Speaker 1: ball in that game.

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Speaker 2: Did you feel the same way, Well.

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Speaker 8: I mean, he's the type of player that's always trying

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Speaker 8: to unlock and come up with some of those creativity

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Speaker 8: type of moments, so you can't really fall him. It's

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Speaker 8: kind of in his nature. But there were some times

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Speaker 8: where he probably chose something a little bit more extraving him,

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Speaker 8: where a simple opportunity might have been an easier finish.

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Speaker 1: There was a little bit of news from FC Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: this week. First of all, Roman Celentana was honored with

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Speaker 1: the Save of the Year and it was just an

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Speaker 1: incredible save that occurred, actually a series of saves that

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Speaker 1: occurred earlier this year, and you know, I don't know

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Speaker 1: where this club would be without Celentano. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: every goalkeeper is going to have it off night. But

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Speaker 1: the fact that he was honored this week I think

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Speaker 1: is nice. But I think it speaks at his consistency

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Speaker 1: and this is what you need at this time of

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Speaker 1: the year is solid goalkeeping. I would think they're probably

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Speaker 1: trying to scratch their heads in Columbus leading into this

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Speaker 1: game tomorrow and night to figure out, Okay, how do

801
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Speaker 1: we deal with this dude?

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Speaker 2: Even if that back line for.

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati is as stout as it is, what do you

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Speaker 1: think is going through the minds of the Columbus crew

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Speaker 1: and how to deal with Celentano?

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Speaker 8: Well, I think Columbus's main priority right now is scoring goals.

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Speaker 8: It's not something that they've had exactly a lot of

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Speaker 8: success with over the last month the month and a

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Speaker 8: half of the season, really mean, many times they've had

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Speaker 8: more than one outside of the kind of an outlier

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Speaker 8: game in Atlanta towards the beginning of September. So they're

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Speaker 8: just looking to find answers offensively all the time, not

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Speaker 8: necessarily as to get past Roman. But I think their

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Speaker 8: big thing is they're going to try to hold onto

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Speaker 8: the ball as much as they can and try to

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Speaker 8: make sure that SEC don't have those opportunities to split

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Speaker 8: forward and break forward and have some of those counter

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Speaker 8: attacking chances that they tend to create in the flow

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Speaker 8: of play. So I think they're really going to be

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Speaker 8: concerned with can we hold onto the ball out last

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Speaker 8: that FCC scoring opportunities and maybe pit something out of

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Speaker 8: our kind of weekend attack.

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Speaker 1: And then the other honor was Nick Hagland wins MLS

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Speaker 1: Comeback Player of the Year. I mean, his injury last

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00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: season was just horrific, but I was really happy to

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Speaker 1: see it on a number of levels. One, he seems

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Speaker 1: like a decent dude. Second, he's from here, and third

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Speaker 1: when he's in that lineup, it's it's a little bit

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Speaker 1: different look for them.

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Speaker 2: Hagland.

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Speaker 1: You know, some people looked at him and wondered, and

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Speaker 1: I was certainly one of them before his injury last year,

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Speaker 1: like maybe, you know, as a game really passed this

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Speaker 1: guy by, But it really hasn't, has it.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 8: I mean, Nick is a guy who keeps defining or

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Speaker 8: redefining what type of player he is and kind of

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Speaker 8: meeting and exceeding the expectations A lot of people said

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Speaker 8: for him when he first arrived here. Obviously, he came,

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Speaker 8: you know, in those first couple of seasons with the

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Speaker 8: SCC when they're trying to make their mark in the league,

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Speaker 8: and he has a great pedigree, whined a championship up

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Speaker 8: in Toronto. It wasn't exactly a guy that you would

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Speaker 8: be like, that's a mark he's signing. But Nick just

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00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 8: had a habit of sticking around and finding his way

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Speaker 8: to be useful for the team. Well again, that first

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00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 8: name that really jumps out on the back line when

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Speaker 8: he's in there. They seem to have their stuff together

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Speaker 8: and it is exciting to see what he's going to

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Speaker 8: be able to do with him next or this weekend.

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Speaker 8: Is he again is going to have to step into

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Speaker 8: that role.

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Speaker 1: Do you think this thing goes to a third game?

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Speaker 1: How do you think this plays out tomorrow night?

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Speaker 8: I mean, as far as things go in Columbus, that

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Speaker 8: SCC haven't exactly had the best run up there. They've

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Speaker 8: only won once and I think seven trips to Columbus.

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Speaker 8: Although it's gotten a little bit better over the last year.

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Speaker 8: They're one zero to one where they had a win

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Speaker 8: and a draw. So I think there's an opportunity to

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Speaker 8: go up to Columbus and get a win, but they're

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Speaker 8: going to have to get that goal early and set

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Speaker 8: Columbus on their back foots so that they're.

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Speaker 6: Not just clogging up that field for the rest of

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Speaker 6: the match.

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Speaker 1: You know this, this this series seems so elongated. You're

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Speaker 1: playing three matches in roughly two weeks. It's just I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never played the game professionally. When

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Speaker 1: I did play, I wasn't that good as an amateur.

870
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Speaker 1: In fact, I was so poor as an amateur I

871
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Speaker 1: don't think I played beyond youth. But the fact of

872
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: the matter is, it seems like that they could could,

873
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe tighten us up a little bit. Is

874
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: three matches inside of two weeks too long or is

875
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: that about right for you?

876
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Speaker 8: Well, I mean, obviously the international window from Major League

877
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 8: Soccer is coming into play here a little bit and

878
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 8: causing some of these long layoffs in between the matches,

879
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Speaker 8: which is less than ideal but probably best from a

880
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Speaker 8: player perspective. I do think the players probably would prefer

881
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 8: a little bit of time off, so there's an opportunity

882
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 8: for recuperation. Obviously, the turnaround between this last game and

883
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 8: this one is it's fairly tight, but then we get

884
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Speaker 8: this big jump in between games two and three, so

885
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Speaker 8: it really becomes a question of you know, do you

886
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Speaker 8: want to have that break? And I think right now

887
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 8: this banged U s Cconcinty team will take a little

888
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Speaker 8: bit of time and get some of these other guys

889
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Speaker 8: back into the lineup if they can.

890
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Speaker 1: Now, I asked you the question before last. How does

891
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: this thing play out? I'm going to pin you down.

892
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: Do they win to borrow night?

893
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 6: I think this is that same game to loose? So yeah,

894
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 6: I think I think they've got it here this weekend.

895
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Speaker 1: Ken, Right, So we're coming, We're looking for you. If

896
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Speaker 1: it doesn't happen, I'm just gonna let you know. Is

897
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Speaker 1: that all right? We'll be looking at now.

898
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Speaker 4: I'll da you.

899
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Speaker 1: DJ Sweitzer soccer influencer. By the way, what is a

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Speaker 1: soccer influencer?

901
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Speaker 4: Hey?

902
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 8: Just run in my mouth about the sport when other

903
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 8: people don't want to hear it.

904
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: What of about what about a million and a half

905
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: here in the greater Cincinnati area?

906
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Speaker 2: All right, DJ, stay well, you know we'll be in touch.

907
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Speaker 6: Thank you appreciate it.

908
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: Game will be on ESPN fifteen thirty tomorrow, night. You

909
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: see tonight here on seven hundred WLW and UK.

910
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 2: Tonight on ESPN fifteen thirty. So we've got a.

911
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Speaker 1: Big guy in the iHeart media family here in Cincinnati.

912
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Speaker 1: Got a lot going on one forty nine already on

913
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Speaker 1: this Saturday. I am ken Brew and this is seven hundred.

914
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Speaker 3: W l W. It's Radio seven hundred WLW.

915
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Speaker 2: Yes, gather around the lemonade stand.

916
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Speaker 1: We have one more hour to go, and that would

917
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Speaker 1: be from now until three we count down to UC

918
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Speaker 1: football and that's a long countdown. Kickoff is not until

919
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: ten fifteen tonight out in Utah, Utah, as they used

920
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: to say back in the old neighborhood, the starting quarterback

921
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Speaker 1: for Utah is a guy named Devin damp Here. He's

922
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: very good, but he's been hurt. Even in his absence

923
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Speaker 1: last week, the backup bird Fickland, played very well.

924
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Speaker 2: Either way, it.

925
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Speaker 1: Sounds like you see HAD football coach Scott Centerfield has

926
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Speaker 1: his team prepared.

927
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Speaker 9: And obviously, you know, Napier is their guy, and if

928
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Speaker 9: he's healthy and then we anticipate him playing and you know,

929
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Speaker 9: but now for them, they got to feel really good

930
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Speaker 9: about the fact that they got another guy that can

931
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Speaker 9: put in there and had an outstanding game and think

932
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Speaker 9: he was.

933
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Speaker 2: A Big twelve Player of the Week this past week.

934
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Speaker 9: So but I think, you know, it's what they do

935
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Speaker 9: team wise, you just have to defend that whole offense.

936
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Speaker 1: Be in about an hour and a half out in

937
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Speaker 1: Maryland College Park, Maryland, it will be the Terps against

938
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Speaker 1: number two Indiana. I don't think a lot of people,

939
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Speaker 1: as we talked about with Stuart Mandela an hour ago,

940
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Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people really saw this

941
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Speaker 1: coming for Indiana, and a lot of people are wondering

942
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Speaker 1: what the success is or why.

943
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Speaker 9: And obviously you know Nampier is their guy and he's healthy.

944
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Speaker 1: No, that's the wrong guy. This guy is Kurt Signetti.

945
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Speaker 1: He's their head coach. So what's the reason. You know,

946
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Speaker 1: it's a reason for this.

947
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 6: You know, the thing we ask our guys that do

948
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 6: is play every play.

949
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Speaker 9: Like it's nothing, nothing, game on the line, and from

950
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Speaker 9: beginning then, regardless of the competitive circumstances.

951
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Speaker 6: And I think they've bought into that message.

952
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Speaker 1: Well they have, and they're they're very good and again

953
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Speaker 1: taking on Maryland today and favored despite being on the

954
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Speaker 1: road UK at Auburn later on tonight, so we are

955
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Speaker 1: now into our second month of the government shutdown, and

956
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Speaker 1: to most of us, we have not been affected. Unless

957
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Speaker 1: you work for the military, or you're someone who is

958
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: working for government agencies like the air traffic controllers, or

959
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Speaker 1: it may be somebody that relies on federal funding, it's

960
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Speaker 1: probably not affected your life all that much. It's about

961
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Speaker 1: to particularly with the situation that is going on with

962
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Speaker 1: the ATC and how there may be delays and flights

963
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: and whatnot. And it's also affected SNAP SNAP, which is

964
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Speaker 1: a term for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, and those are benefits,

965
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Speaker 1: and those benefits help those who maybe have food shortages

966
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Speaker 1: in their life or no food in their life. But remember,

967
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 1: not too long ago, there was the one big beautiful

968
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Speaker 1: bill that was passed by Congress, and in that one

969
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: big beautiful bill, that particular program was really dug into

970
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: to remove most refugees, asylum seekers, trafficking and domestic violence victims,

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Speaker 1: and other legal immigrants. About ninety thousand people will lose

972
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Speaker 1: SNAP in an average month according to what the Big

973
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: Beautiful Bill is all about. But now we're hearing that

974
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Speaker 1: forty two million people are going to be affected because

975
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Speaker 1: of the government shutdown. And not being able to continue

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Speaker 1: funding SNAP. It's complicated, and there have been gross abuses

977
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Speaker 1: of SNAP since the Democrats got that program up and running.

978
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Speaker 1: For example, this is from it's a federal I'm sorry,

979
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 1: this is a federal This is a report from the

980
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Speaker 1: Department of Health and Human Services.

981
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 2: And this is the quote.

982
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: Federal, state and local spending on refugees and asylum seekers,

983
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Speaker 1: including food, healthcare, education, and other expenses, totaled four hundred

984
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: and fifty seven billion with a B dollars from two

985
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Speaker 1: thousand and five to twenty nineteen. Again, that's from the

986
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Speaker 1: Department of Health and Human Services and during that time,

987
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Speaker 1: twenty one percent of refugees and asylum seekers received SNAP benefits.

988
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: The Big Beautiful Bill cut that out, But look at

989
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Speaker 1: the abuse that went on before the one Big Beautiful Bill,

990
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Speaker 1: and it makes you wonder if that was that program

991
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: was so corrupt, Well, what is it now? Who is

992
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: it serving now? And Trump's got a problem. We've got

993
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: a couple of problems with this one. He has two judges.

994
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Speaker 2: John J.

995
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: McConnell maybe the most politically compromised judge in the country.

996
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 2: He operates out of the U. S. District Court of

997
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 2: Rhode Island.

998
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: He was a political operative for the Democrat Party in

999
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: Rhode Island and contributed to Democrat candidates. Begged two Democrat

1000
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: senators to appoint him to the bench there in the

1001
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: District Court, and he so was. He issued a ruling

1002
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: on Snap, as did Judge in Deira Taiwani of the

1003
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: US District Court for Massachusetts. The two rulings that came

1004
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: down yesterday seem to be in conflict with each other,

1005
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: and it also seems, at least from what I'm reading,

1006
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: it also seems to raise the specter that there is

1007
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: this slush fund of about five and a half billion

1008
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: dollars that could be paid right now to eliminate the

1009
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: SNAP problem, except that five and a have billion wouldn't

1010
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: pay for a full month. The program costs the federal

1011
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: government about nine billion dollars monthly, and it's not clear

1012
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: whether or not that they can dip into that money legally.

1013
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: And so the Trump administration is looking for some guidance

1014
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: from these two judges that don't be don't seem to

1015
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: be in sync with each other. Meanwhile, there's a giant

1016
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: political problem that Trump has, and when it comes to politics,

1017
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: why not turn to one of the finest political minds

1018
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: of our time. He is doctor Frank Sorrentino, noted political

1019
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: pundon and also someone who has written the definitive history

1020
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: of American presidents. And I asked doctor Sorrentino to join

1021
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Speaker 1: me today and he's absolutely delighted. I'm told he's standing

1022
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: by online too, So let's go to him, Doctor Sorrentino,

1023
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: how are you on this glorious.

1024
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 10: Saturday, doing wonderful and it's a pleasure to be with you.

1025
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're with us here. Doctor. A lot of

1026
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: things percolating.

1027
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: First of all, I think if I look at Donald

1028
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: Trump right now, what I see is kind of a

1029
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: micro cosm of his presidency. He succeeds internationally, he settles wars,

1030
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: he makes deals with countries that brings dollars into America.

1031
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: All things percolating rather well there, except perhaps on the

1032
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: Ukraine Russia front. And then when you get back home,

1033
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: he's got tremendous problems. He's got problems with the opposing

1034
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: party that doesn't want to do business with him. He's

1035
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: got problems with regards to his own party. He has

1036
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: people that call themselves Republicans, but they're really Democrats, and

1037
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 1: it makes it difficult for him to get things done

1038
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: where in the middle of a government shutdown. So why

1039
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: is this guy so good internationally getting things done but

1040
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: so snyming on so many fronts? Want with what he

1041
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: wants to get done by things here at home?

1042
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 10: Well, I think there is a divide in America, and

1043
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 10: this divide is much more polarized and deeper. So it

1044
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 10: transcends Trump. But Trump has his own style which in

1045
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 10: some ways exacerbates some of that polarization and tension that exists.

1046
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 10: So he's both a product of that polarization which put

1047
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 10: him into the presidency, and it creates the problem of

1048
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 10: trying to deal with it at the same time, Why.

1049
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Speaker 1: Do Democrats hate him? Why do they hate him so much?

1050
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: Is it because he did not allow Queen Hillary to

1051
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: ascend to the throne in twenty sixteen?

1052
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 7: Or is it deeper than I think it's deaker than that,

1053
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 7: But it begins there.

1054
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 10: Hillary couldn't represented the internationalization of the Democratic Party and

1055
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 10: the corporatization of the Democratic Party. And what you had

1056
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 10: in the post Cold War was this notion that America

1057
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 10: was no longer a domestic nation but a member of

1058
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Speaker 10: the globalized community, where we could offshore almost all the

1059
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 10: industrial production of the United States A bit of a

1060
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 10: hyperbole there, but at the same time enriched the profits

1061
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 10: of the corporate elits of America, and it did benefit

1062
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 10: large numbers of people, particularly people on the coastal elites

1063
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 10: of the Pacific and the Atlantic, and it impoverished a

1064
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Speaker 10: large number of people. But those people weren't as important

1065
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 10: because they didn't have the technical skills, because they were

1066
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 10: of a prior error in terms of technology, and two,

1067
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Speaker 10: they didn't have the wealth and the political power. So

1068
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Speaker 10: Trump marshaled the agreed class, if.

1069
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Speaker 6: I could put it that way.

1070
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Speaker 10: And what he did was in danger large numbers of

1071
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Speaker 10: people who made magnificent profits during the period following the

1072
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Speaker 10: Cold War, and I think that was very difficult. Now

1073
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Speaker 10: on social issues, I think I could speak from New

1074
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Speaker 10: York here, where we're about to have maybe a socialist mayor,

1075
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Speaker 10: is that the Democrat Party has also embraced a different

1076
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Speaker 10: view of how governance existed in the United States for

1077
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Speaker 10: a period of almost two hundred and fifty years. We

1078
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Speaker 10: now see a majority of Democrats sympathetic towards the concept

1079
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 10: of socialism and socialism and globalism, while Trump represents nationalism

1080
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 10: and capitalism.

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Speaker 1: You know the issue we have here at home. The

1082
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Speaker 1: government's been shut down for over a month. Food assistance

1083
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Speaker 1: the plans snap is running out, probably will run out

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Speaker 1: here in the next day or two for those that

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Speaker 1: need food. Military is not getting paid. Although apparently there

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Speaker 1: is some sort of private funding that will help air

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Speaker 1: traffic controllers on the job, not getting paid air travel

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Speaker 1: can be a problem. My point in all of this

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Speaker 1: is that the Republicans have the majority in the Senate,

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Speaker 1: and there's a thing called the filibuster, and it wants

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Speaker 1: the filibuster blown up and done away, which means that

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Speaker 1: you can get legislation passed with a mere majority. You

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Speaker 1: don't have to get to the sixty vote threshold. And

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of country club Republicans in Washington,

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Speaker 1: DC right now, doctor that are saying, no, that's army Jeddon.

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Speaker 1: We should never go that way because if the Democrats

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Speaker 1: ever get control, then they would have the ability to

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Speaker 1: push through their agendas statehood for example for DC, or

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Speaker 1: packing the Supreme Court. My position is Trump is waiting

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Speaker 1: on judges to be approved. He's got a government that's

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Speaker 1: been shut down because of Democrat obstinates. Should we be

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Speaker 1: worried about the filibuster because it doesn't matter what Democrats

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Speaker 1: are going to do if they get in power, they're

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Speaker 1: going to do it anyway. They're going to do away

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Speaker 1: with it. So why not just get it over with now,

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Speaker 1: get the government running, get judges approved, and get this

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Speaker 1: thing back on track.

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Speaker 2: Why not just do it?

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Speaker 10: Well, if that's an interesting and very tempting solution, the

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00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 10: problem is that I think you erode some of the restraints.

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Speaker 10: I remember when Harry Reid was the Senate majority leader

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Speaker 10: and Obama was president and they lowered the level for

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Speaker 10: district court judges and Appella Court judges to majority than

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Speaker 10: when Trump got elected. That Mitch McConnell did it for

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Speaker 10: the Supreme Court, and what we have is a polarized

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Speaker 10: judiciary as well. There is something to be said about

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Speaker 10: super majorities in the Senate. Now. The problem here is

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Speaker 10: is some people will say, as you did, that it's

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Speaker 10: going to be done anyway. The filibuster may be a relic,

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Speaker 10: and it may well happen. You may be right, but

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Speaker 10: I'm not so sure it's a good idea.

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Speaker 4: If we could.

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Speaker 6: Strengthen that norm.

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Speaker 10: We could then develop more consensus so that administration becomes

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Speaker 10: just as one sided and just push forth an agenda

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Speaker 10: that half the nation detests.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you don't think, Yeah, okay, I mean I understand that,

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Speaker 1: and I think I think your point is valid. But

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Speaker 1: there has to be something that gets this off the dime,

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Speaker 1: because here we are not a year into his second term,

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Speaker 1: and we've got this obstinence on the side of the Democrats,

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Speaker 1: and we already talked about Trump derangement syndrome, particularly on

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Speaker 1: the far left of the Democrats, and they're sucking the

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Speaker 1: rest of the party into their into their corner with him.

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Speaker 1: So what are we looking at three more years of

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Speaker 1: paralysis here? I mean, they can't even they can't even

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Speaker 1: get a continuing resolution approved, which has been the norm,

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Speaker 1: particularly for the Democrats since since god knows when you

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Speaker 1: can go back decades.

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Speaker 2: They can't even get that done.

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Speaker 1: So then if that's the case, and your anti blowing

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Speaker 1: up the filibuster, then where's the answer here?

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Speaker 2: How does he get done?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: And it just surprises me a bit because he is

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Speaker 10: a deal maker and he seems to be unwilling to

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Speaker 10: offer a face saving device for the Democrats, and I

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Speaker 10: think that's critical in all negotiations he could offer. I mean,

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Speaker 10: one of the big problems is this Obamacare Affordable Care Act,

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Speaker 10: where they made arrangements okay, where the insurance companies would

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Speaker 10: get almost a guaranteed ten percent profit. And he made

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Speaker 10: another alliance with the pharmaceutical companies where they could sell

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Speaker 10: the drugs at list price, and that was successful in

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Speaker 10: getting it passed, but now it becomes symbolic of the

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Speaker 10: financial crisis in the United States about health care. I

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Speaker 10: think the Democrats are so dug in on this that

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Speaker 10: he's got to offer them something. Of course, the subsidies

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Speaker 10: are what keeps Obamacare going, and there may be some

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Speaker 10: temporary thing which you want to you want them to

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Speaker 10: vote for the clear continuing resolution, but they don't appear

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Speaker 10: to be doing that. And I think with his foreign

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Speaker 10: policy success, he could offer an olive branch, whether it

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Speaker 10: is on snap or some subsidies for the Obamacare dreamings,

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Speaker 10: which are going to be very very high for a

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Speaker 10: lot of people, and it's fundamentally destructive. I think of

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Speaker 10: the healthcare system the way he was formulated.

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Speaker 4: But he's he's stubborn too. That could run his problem

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Speaker 4: but foreign policy.

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Speaker 10: He seems to know that you don't win by just

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Speaker 10: demanding what you want. You have to have that win

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Speaker 10: win situation, and I'm not quite sure. I mean, you

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Speaker 10: could say this the principle of continuing resolutions, and I

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Speaker 10: agree with that, but at the same time this hostility,

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Speaker 10: he could be more magnanimous and then try to win

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Speaker 10: again on some of these other issues about how you're

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Speaker 10: going to finance the government. Yeah, I think that's a

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Speaker 10: real problem.

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, I yeah, absolutely, And shame on the Republicans

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Speaker 1: for not having their own quote unquote Obamacare. Where the

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Speaker 1: hell is that They've never They've always said Obamacare is bad.

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Speaker 1: They never came up with anything better. So if you're

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Speaker 1: going to just say we're going to dig our heels

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Speaker 1: in and we're going to try and take Obamacare down,

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Speaker 1: whether it's through not voting on these subsidies or bastardizing

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Speaker 1: whatever Obamacare is, okay, fine, Well what do you offer

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Speaker 1: in return? They don't have anything. The Republicans devoid of

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Speaker 1: any ideas on healthcare for the United States. And it's

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Speaker 1: that's where they and I part because I think if

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Speaker 1: you're going to say, okay, that's bad, get rid of it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, what do you got that's better? And they

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Speaker 2: don't have anything that's better.

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Speaker 10: I think you're absolutely right, Ken, because they have basically

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Speaker 10: been opposed to the Obamacare, but have not provided a

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Speaker 10: solution that deals with some of these same issues in

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Speaker 10: a more economical way that doesn't destroy the premiums and

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Speaker 10: the economic welfare of a large segment of the American public.

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Speaker 10: And that's one of their great failures. But they don't

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Speaker 10: prioritize that. They prioritize the rhetoric but not the solution.

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Speaker 10: And the Democrats have not been willing to modify the

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Speaker 10: Affordable Care Act by taking some of those incentives because

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Speaker 10: that's part of their constituency. And we're facing this very,

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Speaker 10: very difficult crisis because I.

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Speaker 6: Think more than we could go back two.

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Speaker 10: Centuries, but the hatred of both sides towards each other

1205
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 10: is reaching a feverish pitch where so many people are

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Speaker 10: seeing things like assassination and defying the law as legitimate options.

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Speaker 10: And when that happens, you risk not only civil peace,

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Speaker 10: but the unification of the country on agreed upon principles

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Speaker 10: of how you're going to govern.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's why you've got a doctorate. And that's why

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting in Cincinnati talking to you, because you're the expert,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Frank Sorrentino. You can find you out doctor Frankmsorrentino

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Speaker 1: dot com as doctor with a d R d R

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Speaker 1: Frank Msorentino dot com. Okay, Doc, have a great rest

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Speaker 1: of the weekend, and you and I can't take.

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Speaker 6: Down the world.

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Speaker 4: It's always a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: All right, Stay well, doc YouTube now by.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see, we'll we'll see exactly when this comes

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Speaker 1: to a head. I've got a feeling it'll be after

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Speaker 1: election Day. It'll be after this Tuesday. Everybody will get interested.

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Speaker 1: I've said the big thing was after last Sunday when

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Speaker 1: they had was it last Sunday they or last Saturday

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Speaker 1: they had the no Kings nonsense. I said right after

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Speaker 1: that it's but it didn't, it didn't get settled. Now

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking after election Day we'll see. But I think

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Speaker 1: he's right. I think an olive branch from Trump would

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Speaker 1: go a long way. And just bringing this thing to.

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Speaker 2: A head, we'll find out. That's the beauty of it.

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Speaker 1: We'll all find out together to twenty seven News Radio

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Speaker 1: seven hundred at w l.

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Speaker 3: You've got your whole life ahead of you, so choose

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Speaker 3: a Medicare plan you can count on. And that's what

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Speaker 3: you get with a medica.

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Speaker 1: Coming up after the news at the top of the hour,

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Speaker 1: it's sterling and he'll create probably six or seven major problems,

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Speaker 1: but so all of the problems before the ones he creates, So.

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned for him.

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Speaker 1: Ohio State up in a commanding fashion in Columbus over

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Speaker 1: Penn State thirty one fourteen, twelve minutes to go in

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Speaker 1: the fourth and final quarter. Of course, tomorrow it's the

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Speaker 1: Bengals end. It is the Bears down town at Pey

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Speaker 1: Corpse Stadium. The Bears are a two and a half

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Speaker 1: point favorite, largely because Joe Flacco's hurt. Now he's going

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Speaker 1: to start. He said he will play and said also

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Speaker 1: this this week. I don't know, I've never really dealt

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Speaker 1: with it before, but I guess there's a point where

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Speaker 1: it's not really up to you.

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Speaker 2: It's just kind of how it's reacting and how you feel.

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Speaker 3: So that's why I wanted to make sure, you know,

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Speaker 3: I was able to test it out a little bit.

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Speaker 1: So the Bears are not in great shape either. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they did win four in a row before stumbling last

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Speaker 1: week week in Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: What's going on up there?

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Speaker 1: I know their secondary is beaten up, and their quarterback,

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Speaker 1: whom they once thought was the future of the franchise

1258
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Speaker 1: still is on shaky grounds new head coach and Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 2: But what of others?

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Speaker 1: And why does it seem that that team is struggling

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Speaker 1: as much as it is in the red zone? I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're just they get in the renzo, they.

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Speaker 2: Don't know what to do. And so I was wondering

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Speaker 2: about that.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to get Kevin Fishbaine on because he covers

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Speaker 1: the team for the Athletic dot Com. He's one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons why I subscribe to that website, and I

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Speaker 1: was just wondering if we get some insight from him,

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Speaker 1: and there is just boning in right now online number one,

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Speaker 1: So let's bring him on in. So what is the

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Speaker 1: problem with the red zone? I mean, they've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of problems, but the red zone really, to me

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Speaker 1: is I mean, that would be a red flag if

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Speaker 1: I'm a Bears fan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, They've had issues all over the board inside to

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Speaker 4: twenty and it's been penalties, it's been not getting the

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Speaker 4: run game on track. It's been you know, passing in accuracy,

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Speaker 4: you name it. It's been kind of institutional issue more

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Speaker 4: so than on one player that they've had so many problems.

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Speaker 4: You know, they're five for six teams scoring touchdowns the

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Speaker 4: red zone in the last four games as well, below

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Speaker 4: league average and where they should be. And this is

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Speaker 4: Ben Johnson, who you know, the Detroit Lions are one

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Speaker 4: of the best teams in the league in the red zone.

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Speaker 4: So I think that it's a lot of just hammering

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Speaker 4: out the details, gaining these guys in the same page,

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Speaker 4: kind of some of that coach speaks stuff. But look,

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Speaker 4: it's hard not to reference the quarterback when you're talking

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Speaker 4: about the red zone. You know, the quarterback is tasked

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Speaker 4: with so many of those things to try to get

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Speaker 4: the ball in the end zone, and Cable Livers just

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Speaker 4: has not been consistent enough in those critical situations.

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Speaker 1: Is it still a matter of transition from from one

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Speaker 1: coaching staff to the other. I mean, he's got Zach

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Speaker 1: Taylor's brother is the passing game coordinator up there.

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Is it that kind of one of those things that

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Speaker 1: you would expect, or is this kind of eat in

1299
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,600
Speaker 1: the season to expect these things.

1300
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think do you expect it to take some time?

1301
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 4: Look Jared Goff, who was a veteran who's been to

1302
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 4: a Super Bowl, it took him eight games to really

1303
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 4: get a new groove with Ben Jonson back in twenty

1304
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 4: twenty two. So this is this is kind of the

1305
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 4: critical stage now for Caleb Williams. If you're gonna use

1306
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 4: that comparison, this is the game that he if he

1307
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 4: goes in the golf timeline, then he should start to

1308
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 4: really feel good in the system. So yeah, it's going

1309
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 4: to take time. And I think too and Ken you

1310
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 4: know this about you guys have a quarterback there and

1311
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow, who, as much as the team struggled his

1312
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 4: rookie year, I feel like when you watch Burrow, you

1313
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 4: knew right away and it has not really been the

1314
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,959
Speaker 4: case here for them to be able.

1315
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 3: To say that.

1316
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 4: I think the Bears would love to say that, but

1317
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 4: maybe we also should have a little bit more patient.

1318
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is so difficult, it really is. I mean,

1319
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: burrows are few and far between, as you know in

1320
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: the Lake, but I think there could be something on

1321
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: that whole transition thing. How how is the line holding

1322
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: up Uh, there's a guy up there other plays guard,

1323
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: Joe Tooney who's from down here in the Greater Cincinnati

1324
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: area that I thought would have been a target for

1325
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 1: the Bengals in the off season giving their you know,

1326
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 1: their line problems. But how is the line in front

1327
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 1: of Williams played this year?

1328
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been better. Obviously that the Bears made some

1329
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 4: big investments. You mentioned Tony. They traded for Jonah Jackson,

1330
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 4: gave him a new contract. They and Drew Dollman, who

1331
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 4: is the best center available. Their run blocking has generally

1332
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 4: been pretty good. Darnel Wright the right tackles, playing through

1333
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 4: an injury. He has a lot of big kind of

1334
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 4: brace on his arm, but he's been playing really, really

1335
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 4: well the past few weeks. Still better than the left tackle.

1336
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 4: Is a great story on drafted guy out of Canada

1337
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 4: and has helped their run game. But obviously it's going

1338
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 4: to take him some time in the in the past game,

1339
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 4: and we've seen that the last two weeks where opponents

1340
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 4: have really gotten to him on pass plays. So the

1341
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 4: line is better, but when he was taking significantly fewer

1342
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 4: sacks than it took last year. But it's still it

1343
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 4: still can be better.

1344
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 3: Again.

1345
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 4: Red zone issue fall starts a bit a major issue

1346
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 4: with this group, and you know, same thing with these

1347
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 4: guys even better, and it just takes time with the

1348
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 4: new playbook sometimes, especially one is detailed as Ben Johnson.

1349
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched, I watched the offense, and I mean

1350
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 1: even in games that that the Bears won, there it

1351
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 1: just seemed to be off a tick and I don't

1352
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 1: know what it is. And I don't want to hang

1353
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: everything on the transition because there's there's some there's some

1354
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 1: good players there. DJ Moore. Uh, you know, he's a

1355
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 1: good player, don Roma. Donza is a good player. I

1356
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: think DeAndre Swift has proven himself in the league. And

1357
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 1: I know they're all battling injuries, but I mean that

1358
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 1: that the quote unquote skill positions, there seems to be

1359
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: enough talent I think for this team to be clicking

1360
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: just a little bit more.

1361
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 10: Now.

1362
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: Again, look, they had that long win streak that was

1363
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: broken last week. But it just seems like it should

1364
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 1: be better. Doesn't it seem that way to you?

1365
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, it should be. You know, they've got the players.

1366
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 4: You can you can spin it and say, you know,

1367
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 4: Swift's not a pro bowler. DJ Moore is accomplishes, He's

1368
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 4: been never been to a Pro Bowl. Rome is still young.

1369
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 4: You know, They've got these tight ends who they really

1370
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 4: like but just haven't really gotten going. And there's a

1371
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 4: lot the names you ro outted up. I think a

1372
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 4: lot of teams would be happy with that collection of

1373
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 4: skilled players, and each guy has had their flashes, but

1374
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 4: it's just they just even even the game against Dallas,

1375
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 4: which is kind of the biggest offensive explosion they had,

1376
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 4: they stalled out a couple of times in the second half,

1377
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 4: and Ben Johnson he really wanted to kind of put

1378
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 4: that game away and they were not able to. So

1379
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 4: they have not come close to playing their best game

1380
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 4: with something Ben Jonson has been emphasizing. As you know,

1381
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 4: Cincinnati's defense statistically creates an opportunity for the Bears to

1382
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 4: maybe try to get right. But you know, when you

1383
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 4: have false start and you're not consistently running the ball,

1384
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 4: and you're not accurate with the throws, you're not scorking

1385
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 4: the red though, it's a lot of things to fix

1386
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 4: them one week when you're going on the road. So

1387
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 4: it's I would say it's too too simple to say

1388
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 4: that Sincenay is going to be the recipe for the

1389
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 4: Bears to get right. There's a lot of things that

1390
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 4: still need to get worked out.

1391
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 1: Kevin fishban our guest. He is with the Athletic dot Com.

1392
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: He covers the Chicago Bears on a daily basis. They

1393
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: added CJ. Gardner Johnson this week the Bears. Do you

1394
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: have a great story up there Kevin on just the

1395
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: kind of problem he's been for teams off the field.

1396
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 1: But they're desperate. I mean, this is a guy that

1397
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 1: can cover the you know, the slot. Uh, they're gonna

1398
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: have their hands fall obviously in this game against the

1399
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 1: Bengals with Higgins and Chase outside, but he can cover

1400
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 1: players in the slot. There's no question about that. Was

1401
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: that a leap of faith for them because I mean

1402
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 1: he's been with a lot of teams and we know why.

1403
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you know, generally had a good sign when

1404
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 4: a team trains for you and then cuts to you

1405
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 4: a few weeks later, like what happened in Houston, and

1406
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 4: you have to dive into that when you're a Bear's

1407
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 4: steam And I will say this is rare for the

1408
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 4: Bears under GM Ryan Poles to bring in a player

1409
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 4: like this who has bounced around as much as he has,

1410
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 4: but I think there is faith. Obviously. Dennis Allen was

1411
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 4: the coach when Garter Johnson came into the league, and

1412
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 4: Johnson had him for a little bit or overlap with

1413
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 4: him at Detroit in twenty twenty three, and Al Harris

1414
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 4: a secondary coach. It's a no nonsense guy who's got

1415
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 4: a lot of respect in this league, a lot of

1416
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 4: respect in the filing. I think certainly counting on him

1417
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 4: to help, but you're right, they need it. You saw

1418
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 4: Tyler Huntley and the Ravens really attack the Bears backup

1419
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 4: corners last week and do so successfully. So to get

1420
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 4: a veteran who's competitive as they all get out, and

1421
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:47,560
Speaker 4: you know what, sometimes in this league, I mean, you

1422
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 4: got to be careful with it and you got to

1423
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 4: harness it. But sometimes it's okay in this league to

1424
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 4: have somebody who can be a pest. And the Bears

1425
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 4: don't really have a whole lot of guys like that,

1426
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 4: so maybe you would like somebody who's a little more accomplished.

1427
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 4: And it wasn't you know, cut in the middle of

1428
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 4: the season, but he is an upgrade from what they

1429
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 4: were using since Kler Gordon got hurt.

1430
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: Okay, let's handicap this then seriously hurting a corner. You're

1431
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 1: you're going to get Joe Flacco this week. There's no

1432
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: doubt in my mind that whatever ailed him earlier in

1433
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 1: the week, he's he'll be there on Sunday. You know

1434
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:21,600
Speaker 1: you're going to get Chase. You know you're going to

1435
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 1: get Higgins. If you're Chicago, the running game here in

1436
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 1: Cincinnati has blossomed, you also know that you're going to

1437
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 1: get a defense it's not very good and probably won't

1438
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: have Trey Hendrickson. I'm just I'm just I'm just wondering

1439
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 1: as you look at this game and knowing all of

1440
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: that and seeing Chicago in the last four games before

1441
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 1: what happened in Baltimore, the way they played, just wondering,

1442
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 1: how do you handicap this one?

1443
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 2: How do you how do you see this one playing out?

1444
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? It's I mean you talk about the secondary injuries

1445
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 4: for the Bear is going up against Chase and Higgins

1446
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 4: and that's a rough matchup. You know it was Rashan

1447
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 4: Bateman and Save Flowers were making big plays against them

1448
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 4: last week. I can only imagine which of our chases

1449
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 4: they can turn. You on the film I mean, he's

1450
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 4: been beating double teams of good corners, so I like

1451
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 4: that matter for Cincinnati, and as well as the Bears

1452
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 4: have been creating takeaways this season, they're not gained after

1453
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 4: the passer very well. And if you give Joe Flaco time,

1454
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 4: he'll kill you. And you know, the Bears played him

1455
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 4: when he was in Cleveland and twenty twenty three and

1456
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 4: he led a fourth quarter comeback for the Ages in

1457
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 4: that game. Different coaching staff, different players, but it was

1458
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 4: only two years ago. So I like Cincinnati's chances to

1459
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 4: score a lot of points. And I just I know

1460
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 4: that the Bengals defenses has been rough. I have a

1461
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 4: lot of faith in the Bears coaching staff to get

1462
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 4: things better, but you know, sometimes you just got to

1463
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 4: see it to believe it. And I haven't seen them

1464
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 4: from his Bears offense to really think they can fully

1465
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 4: take advantage of Bengals defense. So I haven't made like

1466
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 4: an official pick yet, but I I can see I

1467
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,600
Speaker 4: can see the Bengals finding a way to win this

1468
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 4: one at home, and if it's a shootout, frankly, I'm

1469
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 4: taking I'm taking Flacco, uh and those receivers over a

1470
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,719
Speaker 4: Bears office and just hasn't gotten it all together.

1471
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1472
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's buying into the Bengals defense down

1473
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 1: here just yet. But this is an important game for Chicago.

1474
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: I mean, after this, uh, they played in New York

1475
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: at home, you would think that that's a winnable game

1476
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 1: against the Giants. Then they got to go to Minnesota

1477
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 1: division rivalry game, and then they played Pittsburgh. If you're

1478
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 1: if you're Chicago, you would think your best shot here

1479
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 1: maybe this game against the Bengals and then the Giants.

1480
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 1: Minnesota is going to get McCarthy back, we'll see how

1481
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 1: that goes. And Pittsburgh is uh is a team that's

1482
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: proven it could score some points. So this is kind

1483
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,839
Speaker 1: of a pivotal game. Right after that series of games,

1484
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 1: they go to Philadelphia and then they got to go

1485
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: to Green Bay. So my guess is they got to

1486
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 1: make some sort of hay in these next four games

1487
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 1: if they want to stay competitive, if not inside the

1488
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 1: division as one of the seven teams in the NFC.

1489
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 3: Right, that's a great point.

1490
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 4: I mean, in the last five games, they're gonna be

1491
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 4: underdogs probably in all five. You got Philly, you got

1492
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 4: two against Green Bay. Sorry, they got they have Cleveland homes,

1493
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 4: will be favorite in that game. So five of their

1494
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,719
Speaker 4: six final games they will be underdogs to Green Bay,

1495
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 4: uh two against Green Bay at Philly, Detroit, coming to Chicago,

1496
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 4: and then at San Francisco on a Sunday night. So

1497
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 4: they yeah, they've got to build a little cushion for

1498
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 4: themselves as they enter that stretch. And this is a

1499
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 4: game that you know, look, they should win, but I

1500
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 4: would have said they should have beat Baltimore with Tyer

1501
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 4: Huntley at quarterbacks last week. And so yeah, you know

1502
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 4: Ben Jonson improved in that Dallas game that they need

1503
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 4: to prove anything to us, But that was a really

1504
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 4: pivotal moment for them coming off just an ugly, ugly

1505
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 4: loss in Detroit to make so many corrections and get

1506
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 4: that win. And I'd like to think coming off the

1507
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 4: loss against Baltimore that he has a capability to get

1508
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:08,919
Speaker 4: these guys in position to do it again. And and

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Speaker 4: I'm curious what the Bengals look like coming off are

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Speaker 4: just a tough such a tough loss to the Jets.

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Speaker 4: You know, you don't have you don't have your star quarterbacking,

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Speaker 4: you don't have your star defensive end, that's tough to

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Speaker 4: get off the mat after losing a game like that

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Speaker 4: to a team at the JET. So that's gonna be

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Speaker 4: another interesting storyline the follow You're right, this is this

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Speaker 4: is a game that the Bears really for their the

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01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 4: way their season looks like, you got to win this game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's why you and I live right. I mean,

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01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 1: the game is one thing, but the stories are the

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Speaker 1: are the even more intriguing things. Yes, drama abound, certainly

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Speaker 1: Bengals and Bears at take War Stadium. Kevin good stuff

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Speaker 1: can continue the good work at the Athletic really good stuff.

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Speaker 1: If you're if you're just a football fan, it's it's

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Speaker 1: a great he's a great follow. But also if you're

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Speaker 1: a Bears fan, I can't think of a better guy

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Speaker 1: to follow than Kevin at the Athletic dot Com. Stay well,

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Speaker 1: and I know you're coming to the game, so we'll

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Speaker 1: see you down here on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Thanks all right, thanks for Letten.

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Speaker 1: Bengals give up a lot of yards on the ground,

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Speaker 1: but the Bears are banged up in the backfield. DeAndre Swift,

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Speaker 1: lead running back out, one of the backups Rashawn Johnson out.

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Speaker 2: So see if that makes a difference.

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Speaker 1: You've got to tackle people, man, you gotta start tackling people.

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