WEBVTT - Scott Sloan Show -- 1/19/26 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:03.440 Do you want to be in American start floating on 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:06.480 this MLK day on seven hundred Wow, more than that, 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:09.080 about nine thirty five feels kind of hollow to me 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:10.360 here in Cincinnati anyway. 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:12.080 Maybe not the rest they came here, but here in Cinty. 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:13.000 I'll explain why I'm. 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:17.440 Momentarily first though TERRFF related stuff. Announcement just came out. 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:21.400 Canada has cut tariffs on Chinese made electric vehicles, so 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:23.919 kind of an end around there on the United States 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:27.840 because the ongoing tariff war, and speaking of which, over 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:31.040 the weekend, the President threatened tariffs on eight NATO allies 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:33.080 unless the deal has reached for US to buy Greenland, 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:36.120 which leaves a lot of US scratching our head. And 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:40.000 also the United States Supreme Court last week we're expected 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:41.800 to they never tell you what they're going to rule 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:45.440 on when, but last week or expecting a decision maybe 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:48.640 on whether the Trump tariffs are legal. According to the 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:50.560 Ice Supreme Court, they have kicked the can down the 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:53.040 least till next time. We'll find out. It could be 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.360 weeks away at this point, we're not sure. But all 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:59.440 this comes together as costs continue to just be stubborn 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:01.480 with inflation and everything else in tariff's a part of 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.640 that for sure. On that is Kyle Moran, our friend 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:06.280 from Young Voices, welcome back, How you been. 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:08.240 I'm good, Thank you for having me. 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:09.160 Yeah, appreciate it. 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:12.120 So the big issue here as we debate tariffs and 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:15.399 if they're effective or not, is that the President invoked 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.960 the Powers Act and designed for a national security crisis 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:22.200 like wars or terrorism or seizing assets things like that, 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:27.000 to impose trade tarffs on China. Is this a misuse 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:29.520 of emergency powers because that's what the High Court is 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:30.360 going to decide here. 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:35.600 Yeah, it basically is guaranteed to be some sort of 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:39.440 abuse of overreach in terms of the emergency powers granted 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:43.479 to him through that Act, because from day one when 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:48.760 he rolled these out, he was already exempting very specific 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:53.720 industries that are economically important because he knows the impact 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:56.560 that tariff would have on those would be detrimental to 0:01:56.680 --> 0:02:00.640 the United States. But critically this shows that it's not 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:06.600 based on national security. When he's exempting cowper, pharmaceuticals, semiconductors, 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:11.119 all these other types of materials from the tariffs, then 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.239 what is it What is he even tariffing a lot 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:18.560 of it is a lot less important goods that we're importing, 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:22.320 So therefore it's not based on national security, which he 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:26.160 himself has sort of admitted very at various times. He 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:28.680 has gone on record as saying it's going to be 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:32.120 used to pay down the national debt, to do now, 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:35.840 to do these stimulus checks as a source of revenue 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:38.360 rather than as a national security concern. 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:42.000 Yeah, and that is a concern too. It's just purely 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.480 on a revenue standpoint. And so far we've had some 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:48.040 indication that the conservative justices are even pushing back on this. 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:53.000 Amy Cony Barrett and Justice Chief Justice Rod John Roberts 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:55.840 said that the vehicle is in position of taxes on 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.519 Americans and that has always been a core power of Congress. 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:02.360 Those early indication certainly don't indicate how they're going to vote, 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.480 because there's been time to I've thrown that out. They're 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:07.600 challenging it. But that if you're looking at the tea 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:09.000 lives here, it doesn't bode well for this. 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.600 No, it doesn't, because like I was, like I said, 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:17.120 so much of this has not even been like the 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:22.400 oppositions criticizing the administration, but the administration undermining its own position. 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.760 So it really does. It does get into some tricky 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:31.480 legal battles for the administration to keep this standing. But 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.120 I have, I do have to step back and think 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:38.200 these powers were passed to be very limited in times 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:42.680 of in terms of actual concerns to national security. We 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:46.520 have reached a point where Congress has ceded so much 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:51.520 power to the executive. The point of passing that Act 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:56.880 in nineteen seventy seven was never to institute broad sweeping 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:00.720 powers for the executives to just simply impose and pull 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:04.760 off and impose more care really nilly. That was not 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:06.840 what it was for. It's not what it is for now, 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:12.560 and the country is not designed to be run by 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:17.440 somebody who has essentially more and more unlimited power for 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:19.760 four years before election. 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.960 If the Supreme Court rules against these terroriffs, does that 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:28.000 then call in the re examination of the executive order 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:29.880 power the part of the presidency and executive I mean, 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.120 we saw Biden and the autopen do it with impunity, 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.600 and Trump said, well, here, hold my diet coke, watch 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.120 me make a bunch of executive orders. In Congress has 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.560 absolutely no They're feckless, right, I mean, you can shut 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.440 the government down for forty something days over god knows what. 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.520 They can't really pass any and come to conclusion other 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.240 than releasing the Epstein files because it covers their asses. 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.760 But does this change then how we how we maybe 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:55.960 that the Congress actually is forced to do their job. 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.960 I'm not optimistic on that. I it will limit the 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:04.280 executive in terms of being able to do this on again, 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:08.239 off again charade, which has reached incredible levels where it's 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.000 literally back in April and May, it was every day 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:15.080 you would open the news, new tariff and then one 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.120 of those tariffs was canceled, and then the next day 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:21.080 more tariff. So that type of stuff would be much 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.680 harder for future executives. But to your point about Biden 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:27.920 with the auto pen and all these things, Congress has 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.920 essentially feeded, like I said, so much of its own 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.440 power to the executive on a broad range of issues. 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:38.640 The Supreme Court doesn't have the ability to step in 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:42.400 and say Congress needs to do this. It can say 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:45.880 that the President doesn't have the ability himself to do it, 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:49.560 but it can't make Congress do its job. And certainly, 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:51.800 as we have seeing, Congress can't make Congress do its 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:55.760 own job. So we are in an unfortunate position there, 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.320 and I'm not gone through them that will see much 0:05:58.320 --> 0:05:59.040 of an improvement. 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:03.400 Yeah, well, I'm hoping anyway, uh, Cale Moran that if 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.279 the if the Supreme Court rolls against him with tariffs, 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:09.000 which we'll get in the repercussions of that in a second, 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:12.000 but on a bigger scale, and that is limiting executive 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:16.560 office powers and executive branch powers. That there's a roadblock there, 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:18.360 and the other one is going to be Venezuela at 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.200 some point, I imagine you know that's going to come 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.800 to some sort of fruition here, but relative to the 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:26.960 ninety billion collected, that is another big problem there. The 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.279 of course the money's coming back in, but it would 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.159 there be a refund and how would that even work? 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:36.320 That is an excellent question because this is something on 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:40.279 this scale that's never been attempted before. So if these 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:44.080 are stripped down, there would have to be refunds. But 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:49.239 depending on when this actually happens, depending on if the 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.640 government has spent this money. Trump is already eyeing using 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:56.360 those funds for these two thousand dollars stimulus checks, which 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.360 wouldn't even be enough to cover those by the way, 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:03.320 but it would create a very unprecedented situation. We would 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.200 have to see exactly how this plays out, But to 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.839 answer your question, yes, they would have to be refunded well. 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.200 And the other element here is if we have a 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.040 thirty eight trillion dollar deficit, why are we handing out 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.280 two thousand dollars checks which seems like it was light 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.160 years ago and I was proposed, but again, nothing ever dies. 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:22.320 I think more than that though, the idea we're going 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.760 to spend seven hundred billion on buying greenland. 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.240 We got the money and the count for that one. 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:30.960 Exactly, which is part of the issue here. Again. We 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:36.720 saw the impact back under the Biden administration incredibly big 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:41.480 spending and money printing in twenty twenty one, which drove 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:45.760 inflation up to nine percent, and we are still feeling 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.920 the results of that. We're still feeling the impact of 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:52.960 that for almost five years on now. So when the 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:57.040 inflation goes up like that, it never comes down again. 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.600 The inflation rate at which is increase may come down, 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:05.160 but the prices that went up they're just there and 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.920 you're stuck with that. You will never see twenty nineteen 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.800 prices for a lot of goods again. And that's the 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:15.960 unfortunate reality of the money system that we have now, 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:19.800 where we just print more and more, and almost certainly 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.440 we would have to print a considerable amount of money 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:26.160 to make these two thousand dollars checks happen. And then 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.880 on top of that, Trump hates the current Federal Reserve 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:33.000 chairge your own Powell, who's not flallaced by any means, 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.840 but he wants to replace them with somebody who's going 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:39.040 to be even more dubbish and turn the money printers 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.680 back on and just print print. 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:45.640 As someone who is I guess more libertarian than anything, 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.480 and I just dis trust government top to bottom of 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.800 my team, your team. Kind of nonsense. There's an hypocrisy 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:55.000 test here, right, So how many Republicans who absolutely celebrate 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:58.000 the tariffs and all this and the bombing of ships 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:01.240 off Venezuela would they be outrage of a Democratic president 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:02.520 of this sen I mean, look at this one. We 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.400 talk about the Affordable Care Act, which is they're right, 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:09.800 it's subsidy. You're taking taxpayer money to give other people 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:12.600 a break on their healthcare. Healthcare is to damn expensive. 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.280 Let's do something the lower the cost of healthcare, as 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:18.400 opposed to just giving aid to people and redistributing wealth. 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.520 It doesn't work. It's too expensive, it's not a four. 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:23.000 It doesn't make it affordable, it makes it less affordable. 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:26.400 Subsidy does using that same logic, And I'm right about that. 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:30.240 Republicans should be talking about what we're doing here with 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.719 Trump and be equally outraged that now we're going to 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:35.680 take money that could go pay off the deficit and 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:37.280 we're going to give people subsidies. 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:42.559 Yeah, and to your point, the healthcare situation is something 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.680 the GOP has basically ignored for the last no course 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:49.680 a decade minimum, and at this point it's reaching a 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:53.240 breaking point where they just can't ignore it anymore. They 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:56.200 tried to appeal and replace obamac here in twenty seventeen 0:09:56.280 --> 0:10:00.600 twenty eighteen, it went down in pretty famous ways, and 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.800 the deal they wanted to pass is not a great 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.480 deal to begin with. But ever since then, they just 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:10.640 haven't tried much of anything. And the only people talking 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.960 about healthcare reform now are the progressive And that's a 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:18.040 very dangerous situation because when people when people see that 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:21.760 their health career costs are skyrocketing, which they are, uh 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.560 and the only people even talking about it are going 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.920 to be AOC and Bernie Sanders like that is how 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:31.400 you wind up with people like Zar Mombami is mayor, 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:35.120 even though he doesn't have direct control over health care. 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:39.200 People just hear these things from the left and resonate 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:43.440 with it, and not illegitimately either because they they they 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:47.800 cannot afford these crazy surge surges in these pranceses. So 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:51.079 the got really needs to get going on healthcare. 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.400 The Democrats plan is, here's groupon we're going to get 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.320 the lower cost on your healthcare. We're going to take 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.040 someone else's money and give it to you. Okay, that's 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:00.760 not a plan. That is just a band aid. 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:01.320 Is what that does? 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.400 It make things worse, not better in the long run. 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.679 Look what the subsidies done to the college industry. You know, 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:09.439 college is out of control because the substet it's the 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:11.840 same thing. And then I look at the Republicans and 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.080 it's been fifteen years. They have no answer on this. 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:17.120 All I hear is well, eat better. Well, that's okay, 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:21.440 eat better, but don't take tail and all okay, great, 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.400 but I've got cancer now and I can't afford it. 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:27.320 I'm going to take the subsidy. That's that's what we're 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:27.720 faced with. 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:32.439 I know, it's it's absolute madness. And the talking points 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.960 that they use for some of it is are legitimate. 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.640 So when they were talking about not wanting any illegal 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.679 immigrants to be on government subside healthcare, this is a 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:47.040 legitimate concern. But that is not addressing the issue that 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:51.760 millions of American suits and are seeing their healthcare costs 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:55.560 go up more than double, sometimes triple over the last 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:59.800 several years. Myself, I have seen mine go up more 0:11:59.880 --> 0:12:03.120 than in doubles over the last four years. So this 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:06.800 is this is unsustainable, and nobody on the right is 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:11.720 even talking about it, let alone at proposing real plans 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:12.040 on it. 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:12.840 Yeah. 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.319 Yeah, and it was supposed to make America great again, 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.240 and I think healthcare is certainly a cornerstone of that, 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:22.600 and to some degree, people like Marjorie Taylor Greener are 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.280 accurate on that one too. Let's focus on this kind 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.640 of stuff. You've had fifteen years to come up with 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.920 a plan, and there's no plan at this point. It's 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.760 nothing but platitudes, is what I'm getting. He is a 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.160 comic go ahead. 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.719 People on the right have been attacking her over this, 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.439 and I'm thinking to myself, this is this is madness. 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:44.520 I find it incredible. I'm raising Marjorie Taylor Green of 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.720 all people, but she is absolutely right about this, and 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.599 I respect her for her courage and standing up to 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:54.040 people who are otherwise just burying their heads in the 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:58.040 stands and suspending all is well, it's not, and I 0:12:58.080 --> 0:12:59.599 respect the fact that she's addressing it. 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.280 He is a common ran political analyst and young voice, 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:06.240 a senior contributor, and talking about tariffs now before the 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.520 Supreme Court and they will decide whether not these are 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.000 illegal or not. If it's a no go. We got 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.640 to talk about refunding money to these countries. But you know, 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.560 at the same time, you look at getting China to 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:18.480 the table to kind of negotiate, look at some of 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.880 the deals done with other countries. Would it be tough 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:23.520 for the Supreme Court done do all that. 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:30.280 Well? In terms of executive the president negotiating with foreign countries, 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:35.760 he certainly has pretty broad powers there. But the issue 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:40.560 is that he is currently arguing that the tariffs are 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.960 for national security and in no small part using that 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:46.600 as leverage. But the issue is that he has also 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.720 made so many other statements as well as other people 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:54.000 in his administration making other statements that directly undermine that argument, 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:57.560 because on one day the case what we made that 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:01.920 we need tariff to protect American industry. The next day 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.520 it will be that tariffs I needed as a temporary 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:09.040 measure to get other countries to lower their tariffs on up. 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.640 And then the day after that it will be that 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.280 we need tariffs to generate revenues that we can pay 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:14.920 off our debt. 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:15.320 Yeah. 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:20.720 Yeah, So nobody, the administration's position on this changes on 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:25.760 the daily and it's going to be a very challenging 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:29.440 hill for the administration to climb, given how all over 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:30.400 the places has been. 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.920 Yeah, it's almost like corporate America in a way. Is 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:35.680 that you know, we live quarter to quarter. We don't 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:37.960 care about tomorrow. We just care about the bottom line today, 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.360 and we might cut our nose off to spite our face, 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:42.080 but damn it, we got to do that right now. 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.560 And it's now that's permeated to politics to agree. If 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:48.200 you think about it, is if this is allowed, you 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:50.480 want and you know, Republicans will celebrate this big win 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:52.360 by the Supreme Court and the tariffs can stand. The 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.120 present can do that, Okay, great, but I want of 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.040 the same people will be yelling and angry about this 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.440 in the future next year or five years or eight whenever, 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:03.400 and at some point a Democrat will be back in 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.920 charge and maybe they go, hey, you know what, climate 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.640 change is an economic emergency. We're going to impost carbon 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:11.960 tariffs exactly. 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:15.240 And that's why this whole system was set up not 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.880 to be just as a way we're currently experiencing it, 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.760 because we are. If you have a country in which 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:27.840 you have radical changes of national policy every four years, 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:32.480 you're going to go through these wild whiplashes of moving 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.720 to the right for one administration moving to the west, 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.280 and the other administration. And this will happen to some 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.040 extent no matter what the system is, because the executive 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.720 does have some power. But it was never designed to 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:48.640 be this wild swing between Biden comes into office and 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.880 because he's president, he can do all of these far 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.680 left things and open the border and at least ten 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:58.400 million illegal immigrants, which nobody voted for. Nobody voted in 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:01.160 twenty twenty to open the ordering the ten million people 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.440 into the country. That was not part of the campaign. 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.440 It just happened with no input from the American electorate. 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:12.360 But despite widespread opposition to it. It just continued for 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.560 three and a half years before he even really tried 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:18.840 to address it. Then Trump comes in. Nobody voted. I 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:22.840 do not seriously believe that anyone really voted for such 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:27.040 high parents on other countries. People may, as he did 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.560 talk about it during the campaign to his credit on that, 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:31.880 but I really don't think that this is much of 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:36.600 a huge point that people ended up voting on. So 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:41.600 these massive swings are just detrimental to the stability of 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:42.120 our country. 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.240 Yeah, there are checks and balances and we need them, 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.520 and this will this definitely will decide. It is a 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:49.160 huge case before the court. He is a calmran with 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.080 the young voices. Thanks again, Kyle, great stuff, appreciate it. 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:58.920 Thank you very much for having me cool. 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:04.399 Yeah, Canada just announcing they're gonna cut tariffs on Chinese 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.399 electric vehicles, so it kind of cuts America out a 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:10.879 little bit. A little bit anyway, and Trump's as we 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:12.520 wait for the court to decide the thing. I think, 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:14.800 as we started this conversation back in November, if I'm 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.600 not mistaken, he threatened tariffs on eight NATO allies unless 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:20.440 we get a deal over Greenland, and so it goes. 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.600 Got to get a news update down this a MLK 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:26.720 day back with that topic actually and why it means 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:28.800 a little less this year here in Cincinnati, or maybe 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:33.800 a lot less anyway, explain next seven hundred ww here 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.840 we go and it's Martin Luther King Holiday twenty twenty six, 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:40.000 and a cold one at that. A seal for the 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:43.879 folks they're marching out there today in front of the 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:46.720 Freedom Center. It can be cold. The double glove, double hat, 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:48.480 double knit kind of day. You know what I'm saying. 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:51.760 You know what I'm saying. What else is going on? 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:56.240 I kind of mentioned that in the tea's here about 0:17:56.480 --> 0:18:01.080 today being a little bit hollow in Cincinnati and maybe 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.520 maybe nationally as well, because you look at what doctor 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.560 Martin Luther King believed and what he did and how 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:10.680 he suffered himself. Kind Of I wouldn't say quietly because 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:12.520 you know, we've seen a lot of footage, heard a 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.400 lot of stories. But I wind on whind it because 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.399 I mean, let's start nashally here for a second. In 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:22.840 the protests that are happening in Minnesota, and the Department 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:24.520 of Justice, by the way, said they're not going to 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:27.480 pursue a criminal civil rights investigation into the killing of 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:31.400 Rene good by Ice in Minneapolis, because there's no basis 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:36.840 for criminal rights investigation, like you know what. Maybe not, 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:40.080 but I think I think it's optics too. I think 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:41.879 you got to do this and make it look, you know, 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:44.200 at least look like you're investigating this thing. It's gonna 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:45.840 take some time. You just kind of let it, you know, 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:48.280 even if you're not doing it, just say you are. 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:50.840 But all that's going to do is make people more angry, 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:54.960 which I guess I don't know that's in the exercise. 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:58.200 I think of what the administration wants people pissed off 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.080 all the time. Well, it's working, that's for sure. Seems 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:02.880 like you just go, yeah, we'll take a look at it, 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:05.280 and then really not do anything. It seems like i'd 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:08.200 be the more common sense, pr cut thing kind of do. 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:10.480 But you know, we should probably should be looking at 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:16.399 this thing based on what occurred. Nonetheless, I point this 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.320 out because you know, today being the King Day, the 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.560 King Day holiday is you know, Martin Luther King suffered immeasurably. 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.240 People have tried to silence him well in his entire life. 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:28.120 He was in jail at thirty to rest in jail 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:30.960 thirty times, and he used the downtime to further his cause. 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:33.359 You know, a letter from Birmingham Jail, et cetera, et cetera. 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:35.720 And today you look at the eight point one million 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:39.320 dollars settlement in Cincinnati with the protesters here for during 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:42.760 the Rodney King protests. You know, they're assuing the government 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.440 of going after been getting settlement money because they didn't 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:47.320 they forgot to bring their medication with them. And just 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:49.920 I hear that, go, Yeah, he had dougs and fire 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:53.119 hoses and beatings and everything else. And you know he 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.120 really suffered for what he believed in. For sure, there's 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.800 no question why. That's why it's a national holiday, which 0:19:57.840 --> 0:19:58.360 was overdue. 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:00.399 But this is the today. 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:02.639 You go, yeah, I didn't have a Yeah it was 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:04.960 really it was kind of hot today, a little thirsty. 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:08.000 They didn't give me a bottle of enough bottles of 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:10.280 water in time or something like like, I don't know it. 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:12.920 You look at what happened in the sixties and protests 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:15.280 to today sawing an old man going out the kids 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:19.480 protesters today, what do they know. I do bring this 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:25.080 up in all seriousness though, because to me today I 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.000 don't get some feedback from this, but it feels a 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:28.960 little bit hollow to me here locally, and that is 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:33.000 simply because a lot of the individuals and groups for 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:35.080 that matter, that were out or will be out that 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:38.840 are protesting not protesting, that aren't marching today. I was 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:41.440 thinking of Minneapolis again, my apologies on marching today. People 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:45.119 march for doctor King's legacy, et cetera, et cetera. And 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:47.879 I kept, hell, think what happened in Cincinnati this summer 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:53.200 where you had this guy who was attacked, white guy 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:56.320 who was attacked by a number, and they say that 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:58.480 it's you know, all the the entire mob that was 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:00.560 down there was all black and beating on No. It 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:02.879 was like six individuals, right, and everyone else tried to 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:06.640 get the guy out of there. So it was certainly 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.240 not you know, the entire crowd. But I guess what 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:11.919 bothers me about this is, you know, the groups that 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:13.840 are out there that are leading the march today for 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:16.000 doctor King, we're the ones that's saying, you know, there's 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:19.000 no there's no justice, there's no peace. Scottie Johnson said, 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:22.600 there's something in the chamber if there's no justice that 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:26.600 all these racist forces led to what happened in backing 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:29.719 up this white guy who got the crap beat on them, 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:31.480 and initially, you know, we saw that and said, wow, 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:34.560 this guy started something. And of course, much like we 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:36.760 saw with Chris Seille back back in the day with 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:42.320 the young man, the high school kid, Nick Sandman, the 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:44.320 initial reaction was, wow, he did this. And of course, 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:47.239 you know when you back up and the context is that, now, 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:51.320 that's not really what happened, because the prosecutor's office said, 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:55.159 this is actually what occurred here. It was they were 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:58.639 targeted in a at a VIP and a club. They 0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:01.320 left there and they were being yell and eventually everything 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:03.800 escalated their threatned. People started pushing and shoving them, and 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.199 the guy turned on and slapped the dude. And is 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:08.600 that self defense or is that assault? 0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:08.920 Yeah? 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:11.320 I suppose it could be assault. But yeah, we had 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:13.639 some of the individuals, somebody groups in NAACP and the 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:17.000 rest coming out and downplaying this and saying no, no, no, no, again, 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:20.280 we have a wonderful example here of more white privilege 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:22.320 and more white racism. When it turns out it was 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.760 it was not that, and it looks that way even clearly. 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:27.680 And what makes me believe this is even more true 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:30.119 now than it was a summers the fact that where's 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:31.760 the legs on the story? 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:33.640 Right? 0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:36.560 I know, Alex, the guy who's beat up is going 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:38.399 to have his day in courtsun that's coming up. But 0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:40.600 you know, if this is the other way around, and 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:42.919 there was the narrative that was started here is actually true, 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:47.040 there'll probably be more protest and anger over this thing, 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:49.679 because wait a minute, you're just ignoring this, you're sweeping 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:51.359 on the rug. But because it looks like the victim 0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:54.840 they're truvic than the skins of the white guy, that 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:58.040 store hasn't legs anymore. And that's why I think today 0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:01.720 that the march is downtown are somewhat hollow in my opinion, 0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:05.320 because of that. It's like, yeah, okay, we know racism 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:08.280 is alive and well out there, but it's not always 0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:10.920 just white people who are racist. And if you can't 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.920 admit that, then what is the point of marching for? 0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:14.760 What? 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:19.240 Doctor King believed in that that all men, all women, 0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:22.360 all children deserve an opportunity to see at the table equally. 0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:25.440 So if you just turn a blind eye to that, okay, 0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:27.959 so why are you marching today? Well, of course, all 0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:30.200 the grievances that we have, and that's all well and good, 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:34.720 but again, doctor King's legacy when he believed in if 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:36.840 you you know, even some of the most basic things 0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:38.399 we all remember from Doctor King and the I Have 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:40.159 a Dream speech was about that. It's just say I 0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:42.520 just want I just want to be treated like everybody else. Well, 0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:44.840 how can you say that on the one side of 0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:48.240 your mouth and then be silent about what occurred in 0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:52.880 Cincinnati the summer? My two cents anyway, Yeah, someone else say, 0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:54.240 saw I was reading this today. I don't know if 0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:56.320 I forgot this because I you know, the older you get, 0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:57.800 the more you like history. You know, you're a kid 0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:00.240 in school, you don't give a damn about it. And 0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:02.480 now it's like, I just find it fascinating because a 0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:04.360 lot of history does repeat itself. As I have lived 0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:06.840 long enough to go, wow, this is this is something 0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:11.080 that's happened before. I kin'd got a rabbit hole. I 0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:12.880 got like a free I don't know how many weeks 0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:15.240 subscription on the newspapers dot com. So there's you know, 0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:17.959 there's Cincinnati Choir and all these papers from the you know, 0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:20.760 nineteen hundreds and early stuff. I don't go back too 0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:23.399 far because it's like reading Shakespeare. It's like, what are 0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:25.040 they saying? There's to wait, too many words here, and 0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:27.040 I don't know what all these words mean. You're red 0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:28.960 an end of those old things, or like you know, 0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:33.199 the eighteen hundreds, eighteen seventies, like, Okay, it's interesting, but 0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:35.760 I'm not quite sure. It's too for most it's too much, 0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:38.000 way too many words. Yeah, but you had the time 0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:40.640 back in the day to do that. You had time 0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:42.399 to be more articulate, more where you use all the 0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:43.879 words because you had time to look them up. 0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:44.919 Right, what else you gonna do? 0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:48.200 Got about a good eight hours a day light now 0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:50.200 four hours of daylight this time of year, I'm making. 0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:55.160 But what's funny about it, it is looking back at history. 0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:57.560 You go, wow, that's a lot of the things that happened, 0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:00.480 you know, fifty sixty seven years ago, it's true today. 0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:02.119 And then you see some little things that wind up 0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:04.000 being bigger dealing with thought, and that's that's kind of 0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:06.159 just the way history is. So started reading some of 0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:09.840 the stuff and I saw this about his Now, of course, 0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:12.840 you know about the nineteen sixty eight assassination that brought 0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:17.200 an end to his personal crusade. But a woman named 0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:20.119 Isola Wade Curry where I think Wade Wade or where 0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:24.520 Andy Way name is Isola Curry. Anyway, he was at 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:27.919 a Parlem bookstore in fifty eight, so ten years before 0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:32.760 his assassination. That he was signing copies of a book 0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:35.640 in Harlem, I believe, and she came up to get 0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:38.760 her book signed and instead pulled out a letter opener 0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:47.119 and stabbed him in the chest. And you know, had 0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:51.280 had he moved a little bit or you know, turned 0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:53.880 away or something, it missed his A order by literally 0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:58.800 tenth of an inch, eighth of an inch, something like that. 0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:01.720 And so anyway was why he had stuck in his chest. 0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:04.840 He had have surgery rushed in and had he moved 0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.040 in any certain way shape or farman Back in fifty eight, 0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:09.240 we didn't know as much about medicine today, but had 0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:12.280 even sneezed, they said he probably would have ruptured his 0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:14.040 A order at that point, it would have been fatal. 0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:17.720 She miss Curry, was a forty two ye old black 0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:20.520 woman of all things, and she was again what we 0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:23.680 talk about today right mental health. She was having paranoid 0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:27.600 delusions that were focused on king, and they institutionalized her 0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:29.560 and she died a few a number of years ago. 0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:31.560 But I thought it was interesting. You know, you hear 0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:34.280 about what happened in sixty eight, but he was this close, 0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:37.159 I mean literally an eyelash away from dying at the 0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:40.400 hands of a deranged individual. Book signing in Harlem back 0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:43.040 ten years before he passed away and everything. Of course, 0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:45.320 you know they wrote and did in that up until 0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:49.359 sixty eight. Could you imagine had she been successful in 0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.200 that would have been meant for civil rights if at all, 0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:53.920 for sure. So anyway, something to think about, something to 0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.919 think about on this MLK day. So the folks out there, 0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:59.879 hopefully they're they're bundled up, got enough handwarmers, and such 0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:04.760 a little bit. Something else I saw here too, as 0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:06.639 a fan of eating, and who is not a fan 0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:11.600 of eating these days, the price of beef is going 0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.800 up yet again, and we're are in a meat crisis. 0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:16.640 You know, we're blessed here in Cincinnati. If you think 0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:20.560 about it, how many good, if not great steakhouses we have, 0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:23.960 And there's almost too many, because instantly you go Cincinnatio, 0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:26.840 how you think are rubies? But Tony's is right there 0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:30.800 with them. There's Marble, there's you can go on and 0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:34.600 on right in countless places, maybe not even small chains 0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:37.159 for that matter. Capitol Grill, all these places do a 0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:41.960 really really good steak, and you wonder how many of 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:44.840 these things are gonna go away. You know, we saw 0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:48.600 Morton's close downtown. I think the death now for that 0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:50.480 one is the fact that Ruby opened up right next 0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.840 to him, and that I was, okay, I mean over there. 0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:55.320 I think we're there once and like gets to Chicago 0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:58.200 institution for sure, Morton's, Morton's, the Ruby's is Chicago, and 0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:00.639 they tried it. But here, for god, had a good, real, 0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:02.120 really good long run. It was just you know, kind 0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.440 of second floor kind of vibe to it. It was fine. 0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:07.800 But you know, once Rubies opened this thing up on 0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:10.840 Fountain Square, that's that. But uh, you know, you're starting 0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:14.200 to see like three four, five hundred dollars dinner tabs 0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:16.800 now at some of these lavish places. And you know, 0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:21.680 restaurant restaurants have razor thin margins already, Wholesale beat prices 0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:26.280 since COVID have gone up seventy percent, and so you 0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:28.280 think about the food, You think about the labor, the 0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:30.640 rant utilities, insurance, all that stuff. I mean, how much 0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:33.720 profit are you making per steak? To the point now 0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:35.760 you go in a steakhouse, and nice steakhouse for that matter, 0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:39.080 and you know the core of a good steakhouse has 0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:41.680 always been the ribbi. Right, you get yourself a ribbi. 0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.960 And when you see market prices on ribb what's the 0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:48.480 cost of a ribbi? It's market price, Holy crab. I 0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:50.560 think the cost have gone up like fifty percent, maybe 0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:52.600 a third to fifty percent in some cases. And so 0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.320 I think those people who want us eating less cows 0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:58.240 and less cows of course means less cow flatulence, which 0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:02.000 is destroying our world. Allegedly, you're gonna see more and 0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:04.280 more people shot away from beef. I know, I eat 0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:06.000 a lot less beef than I did just a couple 0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:08.280 of years ago. And I didn't really eat all that 0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:10.400 much anyway, you know, I was like a couple maybe 0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:13.480 once twice a week. And now it's probably even more rare, 0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:15.680 no pun intended, than that, simply because the cost of 0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:17.400 it is you look at it and go wow, I 0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:19.960 think about making you know, some pot roast. You're down 0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:22.400 like forty bucks or a pot roast, I mean, parers 0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:25.080 be cheap. Now, it's like, holy crap, that's not long ago. 0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.640 That's what I'd be paying for. I don't know, a 0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:30.880 New York strip and a New York strip forget it. 0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:34.720 So more chicken, I guess, more chicken thighs, more chicken breast, 0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:37.560 I guess. And if that's better for the atmosphere or not, 0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:39.800 I'd have to ask your local environment. It's not quite 0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:43.920 sure if more chickens are better than a couple less cows. 0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:45.320 But I don't know. 0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:47.840 It's more of a treat kind of thing now, kind 0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:50.320 of It's like a steak is not turning in the lobster, 0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.120 but that way, Oh you're gonna have lobster. That's like 0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:55.000 an anniversary dinner kind of thing. It's gonna be the 0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:57.240 same with steak. Used to be just go, oh, I'm 0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:00.680 at Kroger, get me a steak, and right on the grill. 0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:05.200 Just eat a little less red meat, I guess. Anyway, 0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:07.000 coming up later on in the show. This morning, we 0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:09.960 just had some NFL football action, actually breaking football news 0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:13.640 with my Bills. Sean McDermott, head coach of the Buffalo Bills, 0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:17.960 has been fired. This I wouldn't say this is a 0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:22.400 head scratcher. I think what's head scratching is you look 0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:25.640 at the three coaches out of the four in the 0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:28.040 AFC North, all have been fired. 0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:29.640 Now in the. 0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:34.120 AFC East, Bill's head coach, Sean McDermott has been fired 0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:37.840 because he's appeared in the postseason eight times in his tenure, 0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:41.040 which pretty good, I mean, what eight o nine, But 0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:43.240 it's not good enough because you can't make it to 0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:45.880 the EFC Championship Game but only once in those eight appearances. 0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:47.840 And the goal is to win a Super Bowl with 0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:49.960 the talent you have. That's true any team, that's especially 0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:53.440 true here in Cincinnati. And yet, and yet Zach Taylor 0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:56.720 continues to be head coach in Cincinnati and not saying 0:30:56.760 --> 0:31:00.000 at all that's like Sean McDermott and any other head 0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:04.040 coach it's been fired. It's you know, it's the coach 0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:05.640 for sure, but a lot of it has to do 0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.240 with what's happening behind the scenes and talent and you know, 0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:12.000 the draft and also off seats and acquisitions and the like. 0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:15.800 And you know, we're just happy to let Zach Tayler 0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:18.840 continue doing Zach Taylor kind of stuff. Can you get 0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:22.080 you back to the Super Bowl as a question, and 0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:23.920 you know you've been there once. Okay, great, you made 0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.040 it the super Bowl, but it's the league is always 0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:27.480 what have you done for me lately? 0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:27.760 Now? 0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:30.480 I think Sean mcdery, You imagine Sean mcguy. I think 0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:33.000 if you're a Steeler fan, you probably want that guy 0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:36.280 because of his connections to you know, to the area. 0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.520 Not only but he's that you know, blue collar rouss 0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:42.200 belt kind of thing. He his acted work great in 0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:45.000 Pittsburgh for sure, many in Baltimore for that matter. But 0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:47.320 I could totally see that happening, and I think if 0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:50.520 we're Bendals fan, you're probably excited about the opportunity to 0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:53.600 see because if he can can win a game of 0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:55.440 the postseason, at least Tom win a Super Bowl ring. 0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:58.920 He may say that a lot to do with his predecessor, 0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:03.680 of course, and maybe riding the fumes of that, but 0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:05.000 you know, guys, still got a ring. 0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:07.920 We'll see what happens. 0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:10.440 Anyway, he is out in Buffalo, another head go coaching 0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:14.280 carousel continues to revolve. We'll find out if this is 0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:16.200 the move or not in a year or so. Yeah, 0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:18.120 you're just kind of wasting generational talent. But I look 0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:19.720 at this and go, Okay, well it's Josh Allen that 0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:26.840 much different than Joe Burrow. Yeah, teams that I want 0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:28.920 to win championships have no problem getting rid of the 0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:31.760 head coach and then rolling the dice and trying to 0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:34.000 find somebody new. Hell that worked out for New England 0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:38.080 one season and out with Jared Mayo, and now you 0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:40.400 got Mike Rabel and you look at Tennessee and go, 0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:43.480 what the hell are you guys thinking? Maybe doing that 0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:47.080 in Buffalo before long, who knows, I don't know, but hello, 0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:50.240 game this weekend. Speak of the Bills. They beat themselves 0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:53.800 with the turnovers, and I think that, yeah, he should 0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:56.080 have been a catch with Brandon Cooks. But you know, 0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.040 I got everything else that leads up to that point. 0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:00.840 This is probably why Sean mcermmock got Feeting fired because 0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:03.680 of that call. They got fired because well, the play 0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:05.400 on the field and everything else, and maybe some missed 0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:08.080 opportunities there they did not take advantage of. And as 0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.080 you look through this too, because New England now with 0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:12.800 you know C. J. Straut Is, he doesn't look good 0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:17.360 at all in Houston, proving that offense wins championships, not defenses. 0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:20.720 I guess maybe for me the pick of the letter 0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:24.920 right now with Seattle absolutely motor boating and steam rolling 0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:28.920 and whatever other metaphor you can use. Took care of 0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:30.760 San Francisco, though you look at Frisco and want to 0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:32.760 you know, they're just do for a rebuild behind brock Perty. 0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:36.080 Everyone's heard and they're just older. So that window felt 0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:37.160 like it closed yesterday. 0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:37.480 For sure. 0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:40.520 It actually slammed. Seattle rolled them what forty they put 0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:42.120 up forty one on them? I think forty one six 0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:44.360 to the final. But Sam Darnold seems like he's a 0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.200 real deal anyway, and I thought the RAM Chicago game 0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:49.360 is really damn good game as well. I'm not sure 0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:52.959 about Kayelo Williams, though Matthew Stafford even struggled aster. Most 0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:54.960 of the good quarterbacks actually struggle a little bit yesterday 0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:56.280 outside of Sam Darnold. 0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:57.360 So we'll see. 0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.520 It feels like Seattle's a foregone conclusion of the Super 0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:02.280 Bowl in your winner there. Whether it's whether they face 0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.560 I don't know. Denver or New England will find out. 0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:08.239 But Denver's in a world of her too because bo 0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:10.319 Nicks breaks his ankle on the second last play before 0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:11.920 the game winning field goal, my guy. Now you got 0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:15.319 to go to Jared Stidham, the backup. But Stidham, as 0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:18.520 I recall, is actually pretty good and pretty good backup 0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:20.200 that hasn't going to play too much. But he's got 0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:21.719 a week to get ready and never know, don't have 0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:23.520 much New England's not that much tape on them. Plus 0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:27.040 they're traveling to Denver, so we'll find out. But I 0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:29.319 think if it goes a courting Hoyle, I think, you know, 0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:32.279 New England walks out and goes to an AFC Championship game, 0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:35.320 just like everyone was hoping, because you know the Casey 0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.480 eras of Wow, great, we'll get some new blood in there. Nope, 0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:40.320 now we've got New England again. Great New England or Casey. 0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:42.080 That's what you get out of the AFC. Right there, 0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:44.279 that's what you get. We got a news update coming 0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:45.879 up in just a few minutes. We'll find out what's 0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:48.680 going on this Martin Luther King Day twenty twenty six. 0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:49.319 Not a lot. 0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:53.160 I know that the front end of I don't want 0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:56.440 to ruin Brian's lead story. Heres has to do with Hamburger's. 0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:58.520 You may have speaking of beef, may it may be 0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:00.120 hard to get a Hamburger and Mason today. 0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:00.719 That's a tease, is. 0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:01.160 What that is. 0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:04.319 That's a tease on the way. Ashley Vance is here 0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:06.359 to talk about the legacy of Elon Musk. We are, 0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.759 what a quarterway through this century, and if I were 0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:12.280 betting man right now, I'd probably put you know, seventy 0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:16.560 four years left in the century, but I would I'd 0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:19.720 probably put on I think Elon Musk at the adder 0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:21.800 near the top list, despite you know, all the baggage 0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.520 with Doge and I think you know, seventy four years. Hell, 0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:26.440 in five years, people are going to forget about all 0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:30.040 that nonsense and see him for what he really is. 0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:32.200 I mean, he is certainly cutting edge and tip of 0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:35.319 the spear when it comes to innovation and science, not 0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:38.200 only just with what he did with Tesla and essentially 0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:43.680 single handedly revolutionizing the automobile industry, but also i'd throw 0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:45.800 that in, you know, Twitter yet to be remained and 0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:48.120 you had to be decided. But the other thing too, 0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:50.640 is with SpaceX, which is an absolute game changer. You're 0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:52.760 lunching the say, it's not just putting you know, privately 0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:55.279 launching spacecraft and he's not the only one doing it, 0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:58.439 but the idea. We're putting satellites up there in order 0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:03.160 to initiate the future of our communication. And we have 0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:05.680 a lot more to do. But even now we've got satellite. 0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:08.640 You know, your cell phone's using a satellite like t mobiles. 0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:11.960 All those ads with Billy Bob Thornton are about, hey, 0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:13.640 we got a satellite. Now we can do that, and 0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:16.000 it's more of an SOS thing I think in some cases, 0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:18.840 but pretty soon that's how our celf service is going 0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:21.240 to work. I would think it's on between that and towers, 0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:22.520 because you know, you don't always have a line of 0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:25.480 site with a satellite, but that changes Wi Fi and 0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:28.680 everything else. So anyway, Ashley advances on that limit. Juliettershare 0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:31.040 drops by, We'll do mental health Monday today at the 0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:33.160 ten thirty and so much more on the home of 0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:36.360 the best Bengals coverage soon to be the home of 0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:39.920 the Reds seven hundred WLWD, Cincinnati. You want to be in. 0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:44.160 We's got a quote here on this MLKDA twenty twenty 0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:47.040 six on seven hundred WLW. If you're to think of 0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:49.920 a person of this center, MLK is on the last century, 0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.759 but a person of this center now granted we've got. 0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:54.800 We're a quarter of the way through, just over a 0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:58.000 quarter the way through, right, So another seventy four years 0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:00.000 we'll look back. Who is the person of the center. 0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.040 I'll throw a name in early on. An early favorite 0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:04.880 here would be Elon Musk. Now, set away all the 0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:07.799 dough stuff. But here's a guy who comes on, very 0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:13.120 brilliant man, develops a electric vehicle that reshapes the auto 0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:16.359 industry for sure, and says, hey, we don't have to charge, 0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:18.120 we'll put up our own charging stations. 0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:18.799 Cool, we did that. 0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:21.960 Then he go on and there's other things too, but 0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:24.680 SpaceX not the big one. He's launching his own satellites 0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:28.760 on the regular and comes up with starlink and satellite communication. 0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:29.760 That's going to be the future. 0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:31.799 The idea of your you know, Wi Fi just being 0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:33.719 in a room somewhere is gonna it's gonna be a 0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:36.400 satellite phones already headed that way as well. It's all 0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:40.200 Elon Musk's doing. And so when you talk about the 0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:43.200 person of the century in another seventy five, seventy four years, 0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:44.680 will it be Elon Musk? 0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:48.080 Good question. He's doing all right, he's doing our on that. 0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:51.799 Ashley Vance, who writes about this kind of a sort 0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:55.600 of bio about Elon Musk is Ashley Vance, and I 0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:57.799 think you'd agree he's probably doing okay. 0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:00.919 Huh, he's doing all right, doing all right. 0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:03.759 He's doing all right, He's doing all right. 0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:08.600 He's at a big run here the last twenty years. 0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:11.680 It's hard hard to think of another figure who cuts 0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:13.400 across so many different industries. 0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:15.520 Yeah, and everybody knows the name. But then no, it 0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:17.319 seems like a growing number of people hate him because 0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:20.759 what he's doing with Twitter. But it's interesting where that 0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:23.279 platform goes too. But let's focus on the on the 0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:25.399 space element here. And I think this is fascinating because 0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:27.800 in the next decade, we're going to launch in the 0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:30.719 upwards of another one hundred thousands. We've got like one 0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:34.240 hundred thousand satellites orbiting your We just keep launching satellites. 0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:35.560 At some point, you think we're going to run out 0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:38.200 of real estate there, But what's what's that really? 0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:40.520 What's the future look like? You say, Okay, we got satellites, 0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:41.359 so what does that mean? 0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:45.480 It means now we're starting to create this I don't know, 0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:48.000 sphere above the world that's actually a real estate market. 0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:48.400 Isn't it. 0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:51.840 Yeah. I mean in my in my new book, I 0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:55.919 call it a computing shell that we're building around the Earth. 0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:58.879 You talk about one hundred thousand satellites, I don't think 0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:01.880 most people, probably I don't realize we only had about 0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:05.400 two thousand, five hundred satellites going around the Earth just 0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:08.640 a couple of years ago. And that number is already doubled. 0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:12.040 And the one hundred thousand figure is probably gonna happen 0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:14.800 in this next decade. And so we have all these companies, 0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:19.399 really startups. I mean, space has been taken away from 0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:22.319 the governments that dominated this for so long, and this 0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:26.399 is a capitalist exercise now and they're building the next 0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:30.320 layer of our computing infrastructure right over our heads. 0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:33.480 That's amazing to me because, yeah, what five thousand satellites 0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:35.160 and we're in that business too, we kind of I 0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.480 don't know the details of it, but you know there's 0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:40.160 tracking their son outs, all this crazy stuff that has 0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:42.959 to do with our business, which is which is pretty old. 0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:45.000 I look at the satellite think go, this is a 0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:47.840 game changer, because you're putting so many up there. I 0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:49.839 guess the big question would be, wait, mane, we got 0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:51.840 five fou how are these things not running into each other. 0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:53.120 If you have five and you take it to one 0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:57.640 hundred thousand, are we a capacity and what are you 0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:00.239 gonna have. You can have like traffic cops and lower 0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:02.399 level orbit to make sure these things are running into 0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:02.759 each other. 0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:06.440 This is I mean, it's a real issue. There is 0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:08.880 you know, for excuse the bad Ton, there's a lot 0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:12.680 of space in space, so there is room room for 0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:18.000 these things. But without question, we're heading this new era 0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:20.920 where it's going to be so different that yes, we 0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:24.399 hope that you can manage this. There's this thing called 0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:27.239 the Kessler syndrome that people can can hop on the 0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:29.520 internet and check out, and it's this idea that you 0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:32.840 have a satellite that runs into something and it creates 0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:36.920 this this kind of cascading you know, debris that just 0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:40.320 gets worse and worse over time. But there are already 0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:43.239 startups that are are tracking all of this stuff and 0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:45.480 they are playing exactly that role you talked about. So 0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:49.080 like the air traffic controllers of all these machines. 0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:51.239 Yeah, can you can adjust the orbit on these things. 0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:52.640 That's not a problem now when they you know, if 0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:56.959 they the computer on board running, the computer. 0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:58.040 Itself starts to go a little whacky. 0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.600 Maybe you got some problems area renegade saddle, as you said, 0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:02.960 could wipe out a domino effect, and now you've got 0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:04.480 some real problems right there. But all right, so we 0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:06.960 build a huge infrastructure. What does that mean is that 0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:09.080 is that where we would get our I don't know. 0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:10.920 Wi Fi was just what we call it. Now we 0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:11.800 call something different. 0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:14.879 But where does it go a little bit? 0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:15.080 You know? 0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:18.680 Right now, there's two major buckets that these satellites are. 0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:22.879 The jobs these satellites are already doing. One of them, 0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:26.440 there's a company in my book called Planet Labs, which 0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:30.560 is kind of amazing. They've put up hundreds of imaging satellites. 0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:34.280 So these satellites take pictures of the Earth, every spot 0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:37.000 on the Earth, all the time, every day. Not even 0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:42.520 the US, the CIA, China, Russia have this capability. And 0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:45.600 then the other major bucket is what you were talking about. 0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:48.319 Is this. We call it like the space Internet, and 0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:51.880 it's sending high speed internet down from space. Half the 0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:55.520 world still can't be reached by fiber optic cables and 0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:58.040 so you have this for the first time. I think 0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:01.800 of it as like there's always on high speed Internet, 0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:05.400 kind of washing over the earth and creating you know, 0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:10.680 this internet fabric we've kind of been talking about for decades. 0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:13.000 Right, And I think that's an important component of this too, 0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:15.560 because even in America, if you're in rural Ohio, Indiana, 0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:19.200 or Kentucky, it's awfully hard to get Internet service. And 0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:20.920 we take it for granted because we live in an 0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:23.560 urban area. You're in San Francisco, same thing. It's you know, 0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:26.279 a Wi Fi everywhere I go. It's no problem. Cincinnati, 0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:28.120 I start to get out a little bit, it's a 0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:31.359 different story entirely. This would literally get all of those 0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:34.719 people who are left off the information super highway back 0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:37.040 on it. I think of people like my in laws, 0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:39.840 for example, live in rural Ohio, and it's a constant 0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:43.280 fight for them to try and get enough enough speed 0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:45.759 to download stuff for example. This had change all that, 0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:49.040 and now you've got even more people online and on 0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:51.799 social media and probably trying to scam me out of 0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:54.719 you know, twenty dollars or you know, it's. 0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:55.359 Just gonna get work. 0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:57.640 Everything that we hate about the internet, love about the Internet, 0:42:57.719 --> 0:42:59.880 it's going to get multiplied a millionfold. 0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:00.640 This happens. 0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:05.520 Yeah, I mean there's there's pros and co to be sure. 0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:08.239 I mean, I mean, the data is pretty clear that 0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:12.200 once you get access to high speed internet, your education 0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:15.719 levels go up, your your economic success goes up as 0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:19.000 a country. But like this era of even if you 0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:22.560 just wanted to climb a mountain and get away from 0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:25.320 the world for a while, that that that's going away. 0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:30.000 And it's kind of and people should realize this is 0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:33.439 not This is not like a Mars colony. We're talking 0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:35.680 about this far off in the future. This is this 0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:38.240 is actually happening right as we speak. 0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:40.839 Yeah, and that's the exciting part about this. This low 0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:43.279 lying low earth orbit, I think is what it's called, right, 0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:46.440 and you have these satellites that are floating around and 0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:48.920 every square into the globe is covered with that. So 0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:52.560 is that where our cell service goes? Now you're like, ooh, 0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:54.919 your cell's cutting out, you know, to three bars. You're 0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:58.000 not gonna have that problem in the future, are you? 0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:00.680 No? No, I mean this is why you know I 0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:03.680 titled this book when the Heavens Went on Sale. I mean, 0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:08.000 you're talking about lower orbits. My point is that we 0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:12.040 are building this economy, you know, right right right above 0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:16.719 our heads. And this was like an area, a territory 0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:19.160 that was controlled by just a handful of governments for 0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:21.879 like seventy years, and now all of a sudden, we're 0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:24.480 going to see a ton of services, Kelly, We're going 0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:26.920 to have this communication across the planet. We're going to 0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:30.040 understand our planets in new ways by sort of peering 0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:33.879 at it from above. So you know, I think there 0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:37.080 are these two sides to this. I think that it's 0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:40.400 at least for the moment's optimistic story. 0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:44.600 Ashley Vance is the author of Elon Musk Definitive Bio. 0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:46.560 Now is a new book out called When the Heavens 0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:50.000 Went for Sale, And we're talking about the future and 0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:51.680 what we're looking at, and that is in the upwards 0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:54.440 of we have five thousand satellites now, we're going to 0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:57.279 look at one hundred thousand satellites fairly soon, and that's 0:44:57.280 --> 0:45:00.160 going to change our dynamic when it comes to being 0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:02.920 able to access information and put disinformation out there too, 0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:04.680 because that's the good and the bad. One of the 0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:06.800 other elements too, is you're telling me all these satellites 0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:08.839 are when you look at some like Google Earth, right 0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:10.680 and you go, oh, Google Earth, I'm gonna look at 0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:12.279 my house everyone checks their heads, kind of like in 0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:14.120 the old old days. If you remember when there's a 0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:15.520 phone books came out, you look to see if your 0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:16.360 name's in the phone book. 0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:17.239 Same thing. 0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:19.120 Now you looked at Oh, le'mon, look at my place 0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:21.239 where I live, and you look and go, oh, that's cool. Yeah, 0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:24.400 I built that deck like five years ago. Are we 0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:26.120 going to start being able to look at our planet 0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:27.200 and ourselves in real time? 0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:31.520 Yeah? I mean this is happening already. The stuff on 0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:34.600 Google Earth can be a little dated at times. With 0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:38.000 that that era is quickly ending. So this company called 0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:42.840 Planet Labs, they take about sixteen pictures of every spot 0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:46.160 on Earth every day. We'll watch kind of the sum 0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:49.520 total of human activity. It's not like espionage where you 0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:53.160 can see somebody's face, but you can you can watch 0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:56.439 oil tankers going all across the world. You can see 0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:59.080 when North Korea launches up a missile. You can even 0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:02.360 they usually saddle light to look at crops in the 0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:05.240 field and see how much chlorophyllm is in the plants 0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:07.720 and get the best yield and no one to harvest. 0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:12.000 And so we are kind of like at this era 0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:15.319 and people might be uncomfortable, but you know you're being 0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:17.600 everything's being watched all the time. Yeah. 0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:20.080 Yeah, but you know I said, okay, I won't be surveillance. 0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:22.200 But heck, I recall even back like in the old 0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:25.840 old days, you know, reading history and stuff like that. 0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:27.600 Now you're older, you get more interested in history. I 0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:29.200 don't know why that is. I didn't care less about 0:46:29.200 --> 0:46:30.279 it when I was in eighth grade. Now all of 0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:33.760 a sudden, it's like, you know, I'm I'm reading everything 0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:36.319 I can. And so the old satellites even you could 0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:38.360 see a license plate from outer space and that was 0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:41.760 fifty years sixty years ago. But you tell me, it's 0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:44.359 not about the surveillance. They but the technology is infinitely better. 0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:46.560 Now it's only going to get better. Isn't it really 0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:48.480 going to become de facto spyware? 0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:52.960 You know, the satellites you're talking about are these giant 0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:56.839 military grade satellites, And yes, they can see all kinds 0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:59.920 of stuff. The trick is that they're even the US 0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:03.279 only has a limited number of those satellites, and so 0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:06.200 they can they can see spots, but only when they're 0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:08.800 looking at something really specific. They're not sort of watching 0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:12.640 the broad swath of what's going on the smaller satellites 0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:15.600 as it makes people feel any better. The South Coast 0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:18.640 can only be so big on those and the resolution 0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:22.040 only gets so good, and they've had trouble just because 0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:25.200 of physics kind of advancing them beyond that point. But 0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:27.799 you raise, you know, you raise an interesting question as 0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:29.080 to where this could head. 0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:32.560 So Ashley Vance the huge question here to me, and 0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:36.040 really what drives the Internet because it's all about this, 0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:38.560 is like, how are these satellites going to influence porn? 0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:44.880 Well, you'll be able to get on the mountaintop, okay, 0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:46.040 because it's always down to that. 0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:48.879 It's like, wow, the technology or research and science saying 0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:49.680 what about porn? 0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:51.600 And because it all boils out to that at the 0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:52.040 end of the day. 0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:54.640 So no matter what the new format is, somehow they're like, oh, 0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:57.759 three D glasses, we got it, VHS tape, betamac, we 0:47:57.840 --> 0:47:59.640 got ith satellites more porn. 0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:03.879 Driver's a big driver. 0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:06.600 What drives all these pornography? Drives the satellites? 0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:10.759 Relative to Rocket Lab, I think that's a company you're 0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:14.040 mentioning too. When we talk about national security, we talk 0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:16.719 about the has and have not that's gonna you know, 0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:19.759 military obviously is huge, but the ability for nations and 0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:22.399 nation states to launch their own rockets to put their 0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:26.160 hardware in space. Is that like a new frontier? And 0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:28.520 how does something like you know, for example, the US 0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:29.600 Space Force fit into that. 0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:33.040 Yeah, it's one of my favorite stories from the new book. 0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:35.920 Rocket Lab is a company in New Zealand that was 0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:39.160 founded by this guy named Peter Beck. And this is 0:48:39.160 --> 0:48:42.719 the guy. You know, these rockets are essentially the equivalent 0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:45.759 of ICBMs and missiles. And this is a guy he 0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:47.960 didn't even go to college. He just did sort of 0:48:48.040 --> 0:48:50.880 rocket tree in his backyard and his shed, and and 0:48:50.960 --> 0:48:55.120 he's a brilliant engineer, but he's made he's made rockets 0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:58.200 that are successful. Rocket Lab is really the second coming 0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:01.279 of SpaceX. And so I argue in the book, you know, 0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:04.680 this is a new era where the materials have got 0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:09.000 good enough, computing's got good enough that any country with 0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:12.719 someone who's smart enough, driven enough, and access to this 0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:16.560 is We're not talking about nation state capital or billionaire capital. 0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:19.200 We're talking about a few million dollars can make a 0:49:19.239 --> 0:49:21.319 go with this now. And so it is a new 0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:23.239 era where we're going to see a lot of new 0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:24.800 space sharing nations. 0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:27.799 Well, satellites seem like they're complimentary to one another, right 0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:30.200 outside of the military ones. Are we going to have 0:49:30.200 --> 0:49:32.720 that competition in space now between different countries? 0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:33.640 Like, what's it mean? 0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:34.200 It mean? 0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:37.400 It's one thing when the United States and NATO allies 0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:40.960 launch our satellites, would mean something different when either North 0:49:41.040 --> 0:49:43.560 Korea or Russia or China launches a satellite. 0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:46.400 Oh yeah, And this is already shaken out, you know. 0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:50.440 So that the company with the most satellites in space, 0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:54.200 way beyond any government is SpaceX with their space Internet 0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:57.480 system called Starlak. But Amazon wants to build the same thing, 0:49:57.560 --> 0:50:00.760 so they've got an order for about fourteen thousand new satellite. 0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:03.520 There's a company called one Web in Europe that's doing 0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:07.040 the same thing. China is not happy that SpaceX has 0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:09.799 already built the space Internet. They want to do that 0:50:09.880 --> 0:50:13.720 as well. And so we're entering this time of both 0:50:13.800 --> 0:50:17.360 companies and countries wanting to do this to kind of 0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:20.719 seize this territory. And you know, I think we're in 0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:23.600 for a very interesting next ten to twenty years as 0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:24.040 all this shit. 0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:27.200 It's a new space race, right absolutely. 0:50:27.440 --> 0:50:30.120 I mean this is unlike anything we've seen before. I 0:50:30.120 --> 0:50:32.600 mean you had, you really had five governments that were 0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:36.480 moving very slow and control all this stuff for seventy years. 0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:39.040 And over the past three years you've had about two 0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:42.320 hundred and fifty billion dollars in venture capital put into 0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:43.160 commercial space. 0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:46.040 It's incredible. It's happening right under our very eyes. We 0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:48.279 can't see them, but the stuff's happening all the time. 0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:49.800 Look at the night sky and look at all the satellite 0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:50.960 junk that's flying around up there. 0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:52.959 It's amazing. One thing, you. 0:50:52.840 --> 0:50:54.040 Can see it, Yeah you can. 0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:56.920 Yeah. Well, one thing I don't know if it's in 0:50:56.920 --> 0:50:58.360 the book, and this may be outside the. 0:50:58.320 --> 0:51:00.479 Scope of it, but I thought, okay, well, we've got 0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:04.120 this sub orbital, the satellites one hundred thousand satellites, and 0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:07.560 the shelf as you call it, of information. Just below 0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:09.560 that though between there and the ground is going to 0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:12.640 be drones because those are obviously hot and heavy, right 0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:13.600 new doing a lot of stuff. 0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:15.160 How does that does it relate to one another? 0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:20.520 Well, the you know just always on Internet that the 0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:22.400 satellites are setting down, I think are going to be 0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:25.640 the fabric that sort of keeps all these drones connected, 0:51:25.640 --> 0:51:30.000 that keep things like self driving cars connected. This communication 0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:34.279 network between all these new objects that we're creating, and 0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:36.799 then you know, people should know there's also I know, 0:51:36.840 --> 0:51:40.160 we had the Chinese fibulo, and there's actually there's companies 0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:42.560 working in the United States on all kinds of new 0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:47.680 high houssude balloon technology and even yeah, airships back. I mean, 0:51:48.000 --> 0:51:50.840 it's a really fascinating time in aerospace. 0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:53.239 Yeah, all right, Ashley Vance on the show on seven 0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:56.720 hundred WLW he writes about all this stuff. 0:51:56.760 --> 0:51:57.880 It's absolutely fascinating. 0:51:57.920 --> 0:52:00.120 If you're geeky like me and love this stuff, you 0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:01.799 want to check out when the heavens went for sale, 0:52:01.800 --> 0:52:04.279 the misfits and geniuses racing to put space within reach. 0:52:04.880 --> 0:52:07.360 It is definitely the future. Ashley Vance, thanks for joining 0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:07.640 the show. 0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:09.879 All the best, Thanks so much. 0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:11.040 Yeah, Jules is. 0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:15.400 Here on this Martin Luther King Day. And if you 0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:18.480 heard this happen before, So your adult child, you're adult 0:52:18.560 --> 0:52:21.399 child now tells you things about their childhood or maybe 0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:23.719 things that happened that you may have forgotten about don't 0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:25.920 match what money and your memories don't line up obviously, 0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:31.080 and maybe they're describing, you know, problems, hurt, loneliness, fear 0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:33.800 from moments that you probably have forgotten about or barely remember, 0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:36.479 or maybe you remember things completely differently because you're coming 0:52:36.480 --> 0:52:39.520 at it from a different perspective, and so you want 0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:42.960 to correct them, and that would be the bad move. 0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:46.319 It's validation versus agreement. And Julie is here to talk 0:52:46.360 --> 0:52:48.560 about that this morning on Mental Health Money. Julie, good morning. 0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:48.920 How are you. 0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:50.759 Hey, I'm good. How are you? 0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:52.799 I'm doing fine. This probably happens a lot. 0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:57.080 It happens a lot, sometimes in really big ways and 0:52:57.080 --> 0:52:59.560 sometimes just in little ways. Like you know, your kid 0:52:59.560 --> 0:53:01.840 will say, hey, do you remember when this thing happened? 0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:04.120 And you're like, yeah, that's not how I remember it 0:53:04.200 --> 0:53:07.640 at all. And sometimes it can be a much bigger 0:53:07.680 --> 0:53:11.799 conversation if your adult child has some significant problems or 0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:15.000 challenges with how they were raised. So it can happen 0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:17.920 in ways big and small. But as parents, it can 0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:20.160 really be hard for us to hear that we did 0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:23.760 anything wrong or that anything we did had a negative 0:53:23.760 --> 0:53:25.879 impact on our kids, because all we want is what's 0:53:25.920 --> 0:53:28.080 best for our children, right, and so that can be 0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:28.600 a hard. 0:53:28.440 --> 0:53:31.200 Thing to hear, of course, And of course a younger 0:53:31.280 --> 0:53:33.800 version of yourself knows a lot less in the current version, 0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:36.279 and you're also a lot more calm, especially from a 0:53:36.280 --> 0:53:40.120 guy's perspective. And there are things that you probably remember 0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:42.239 and cringe at that they have forgotten, but other things 0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:43.719 that may have happened You thought it was pretty good 0:53:43.719 --> 0:53:45.400 and it turns out it was traumatic for them. It 0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:49.400 doesn't mean you're right in there wrong or vice versa correct. 0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:52.759 It just means that you know, keeping in mind, you 0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:55.000 were the adult at the time and they were the child, 0:53:55.160 --> 0:53:57.759 So they obviously have a very different perspective of the 0:53:57.800 --> 0:54:02.320 same situation than you do. But also it's easy to 0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:06.560 wonder how they got to where they are and to 0:54:06.920 --> 0:54:09.640 want to be curious about that and to ask questions 0:54:09.680 --> 0:54:12.560 about how they ended up getting that perspective or that 0:54:12.640 --> 0:54:15.600 thinking or that feeling from that situation that felt very 0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:16.239 different to you. 0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:18.920 All right, So if you're a parent, let's start with us, 0:54:18.960 --> 0:54:22.640 how can you distinguish between validating their emotional experience what 0:54:22.680 --> 0:54:26.839 they see and accepting responsibility for harm that they don't 0:54:26.840 --> 0:54:27.640 believe they caused. 0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:33.719 Well, so validating and accepting responsibility are not anywhere near 0:54:33.760 --> 0:54:37.640 the same thing. So validating is saying, yeah, if it 0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:39.439 went down the way you say it did, I can 0:54:39.520 --> 0:54:42.360 see why that was hard for you, or I'm really 0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:45.880 sorry that that experience that I saw very differently was 0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:48.719 so difficult for you. A really great example is a 0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:53.919 vacation that parents think is terrific and kids feel they'd 0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:57.080 rather be home with their friends. They feel like their 0:54:57.120 --> 0:55:01.640 schedule was disrupted, They've got anxiety about what's coming next. 0:55:01.680 --> 0:55:04.880 They're processing a lot of novelty in their little brains. 0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:08.120 Parents think it's fabulous, they know what's going on. The 0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:10.920 kids are kind of along for the ride, and so 0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:12.600 the parents may think it was a wonderful trip, and 0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:15.560 the kids may feel it was very destabilizing. That doesn't 0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:17.360 mean it was a bad trip. That just means that 0:55:17.400 --> 0:55:19.920 they were different people, at different life stages and had 0:55:19.960 --> 0:55:22.520 different experiences of it. So to be able to say, 0:55:22.560 --> 0:55:24.920 I'm so sorry that what we thought was going to 0:55:24.960 --> 0:55:27.239 be a really great thing for you turned out not 0:55:27.360 --> 0:55:29.520 to be a really great thing for you. It's not 0:55:29.600 --> 0:55:33.040 saying you were wrong as a parent. It's just recognizing 0:55:33.080 --> 0:55:37.440 that your best intentions fell short for that child at 0:55:37.440 --> 0:55:38.440 that moment in time. 0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:42.600 Isn't that why Christmas Vacation still hits? Because that's ultimately 0:55:42.680 --> 0:55:44.680 what that movie is, right Chevy Chase wants to have 0:55:44.719 --> 0:55:46.920 everything perfect for heal for their kids. Are these great 0:55:46.960 --> 0:55:49.960 experiences and it always is a complete nightmare. That's every parent. 0:55:51.640 --> 0:55:54.839 Yeah, it really can be. I had a client call 0:55:54.920 --> 0:55:56.919 me from Disney World. This was years and years ago. 0:55:56.960 --> 0:55:58.680 He was there with his wife and his children, and 0:55:58.719 --> 0:56:01.200 he said, Okay, Julie di Disney is not the happiest 0:56:01.239 --> 0:56:05.799 place on earth. She said, the kids are miserable. He said, 0:56:05.840 --> 0:56:08.640 the kids are miserable. They don't want to be here. 0:56:08.680 --> 0:56:11.480 It's too loud, it's too hot, it's too crowded. We're 0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:14.120 coming home. Disney is not the happiest place on earth. 0:56:14.160 --> 0:56:17.200 So they planned this wonderful trip for their children, and 0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:20.640 the kids were just not happy, and they came home early. 0:56:21.200 --> 0:56:26.200 That's an indication of a parent understanding a kid's experience 0:56:26.440 --> 0:56:30.239 in real time. But I could easily see later on 0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:33.400 those kids coming back and saying, you know that trip 0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:35.160 to Disney that you took us on, man, that was 0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:37.640 a nightmare. That was really hard for me, and the 0:56:37.719 --> 0:56:40.359 parent being really ascended by that or hurt by that. 0:56:41.320 --> 0:56:44.040 Yeah, because you spent all it's the time effort of money, 0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:46.279 because you have this great family vacation in mind, or 0:56:46.320 --> 0:56:48.160 whatever it is the event. It could be the holidays, 0:56:48.200 --> 0:56:50.440 as I mentioned to that, and it never is up 0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:52.359 to you. So you're upset and mad about it from 0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:55.720 a different reason, they are exactly exactly. 0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:59.279 And so it's important as a parent, if your child 0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:02.000 is coming to you with this kind of conversation, to 0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:05.320 try really hard not to be defensive, to try really 0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:08.920 hard not to explain your perspective or to explain the 0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:13.400 situation or to justify your choices, but just to listen 0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:16.840 to what they're telling you and get really curious about 0:57:16.840 --> 0:57:19.080 it and say, tell me more, I want to understand 0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:22.200 what that was like for you, And try to be 0:57:22.520 --> 0:57:26.440 as non defensive as possible, and stop if you find 0:57:26.480 --> 0:57:29.240 yourself getting really worked up and wanting to argue back 0:57:29.280 --> 0:57:34.400 with them, because then you're in an argument versus understanding conversation. 0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:37.200 And that's really what we want as parents, is to 0:57:37.200 --> 0:57:39.800 be able to understand where our kids are and at 0:57:39.800 --> 0:57:44.640 some point offer them our perspective. Okay, I hear you. Now, 0:57:45.200 --> 0:57:47.240 I want you to understand what it was like for me. 0:57:47.320 --> 0:57:49.400 Are you open to hearing that? And offer them that 0:57:49.440 --> 0:57:51.840 perspective at some point, but not right away. Not while 0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:52.360 they're talking. 0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:54.840 Okay, Julie hanntersh you here a licensed mental health therapist 0:57:54.840 --> 0:57:57.360 in Cincinnati. That's Mental Health Monday in the Scott Sloan 0:57:57.400 --> 0:58:00.560 Show on seven hundred WLWT. We're talking about a children 0:58:00.600 --> 0:58:02.200 when you get to this point, because everything you do 0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:04.040 as a young parent, you think, Okay, I'm trying to 0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:05.920 do the best I can, and I think kids know that. 0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:08.800 But when your adult child spits back to you, things 0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:12.000 about their childhood and their version of events are different 0:58:12.040 --> 0:58:15.520 than yours, and things that you thought were inocuous seem 0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:17.960 to be harmful to them, and vice versa. You can 0:58:18.000 --> 0:58:20.160 have that conversation. If I really want to screw that 0:58:20.200 --> 0:58:22.400 conversation up with my adult kids, what would I do? 0:58:24.480 --> 0:58:28.880 You'd get really defensive. You'd argue back, and you would 0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:32.800 compare their experience to their siblings experience, or your brother 0:58:32.840 --> 0:58:34.800 and your sister thought it was great, so what's wrong 0:58:34.840 --> 0:58:39.160 with you? You would invalidate what they're saying. If you 0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:41.280 really want to screw it up, you would invalidate what 0:58:41.320 --> 0:58:43.240 they're saying, and you would make them out to be 0:58:43.280 --> 0:58:46.000 the villain or the scapegoat, that they were the problem, 0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:49.520 that they caused all the difficulty that it was because 0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:52.400 of them that it went that way, and everybody else 0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:54.560 was faultless and blameless. So if you really wanted to 0:58:54.560 --> 0:58:56.840 screw it up, that's what you'd do, gotcha. 0:58:57.240 --> 0:58:59.840 Yeah, right, It's like, No, what I feel matter is 0:59:00.000 --> 0:59:01.800 I'm going to I was like, Wow, it's interesting you 0:59:01.840 --> 0:59:04.880 would say that because I didn't see that from my perspective. 0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:08.080 But I hear what you're saying exactly. 0:59:08.480 --> 0:59:11.240 And it's also important to really take a moment to 0:59:11.360 --> 0:59:15.480 reflect on you're looking at this from a distance, as 0:59:15.520 --> 0:59:17.360 they are. You are now in the present and you're 0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:19.480 looking back. But if you can put yourself back in 0:59:19.520 --> 0:59:25.080 that place, were you really as focused and present and 0:59:25.240 --> 0:59:29.000 mindful and careful and thoughtful as you think you were? 0:59:29.480 --> 0:59:32.040 Like so an example, right out of grad school, I 0:59:32.120 --> 0:59:34.440 worked with cancer patients in their families, and I had 0:59:34.480 --> 0:59:36.760 young kids at home, and I was working with life 0:59:36.760 --> 0:59:39.600 threatening illness and death at work, and I was really 0:59:39.640 --> 0:59:42.919 struggling to, like, you know, leave work and come home 0:59:42.960 --> 0:59:46.560 and be a fully present, engaged, happy, bubbly, fun mom. 0:59:47.040 --> 0:59:49.880 And so when one of my boys later in life said, 0:59:49.920 --> 0:59:51.600 you know, that was a really tough time for me, 0:59:51.680 --> 0:59:54.160 because you weren't around, and you weren't like you were there, 0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:57.600 but you weren't there. I had to reflect and say, honestly, 0:59:57.760 --> 0:59:59.800 you know, you're right, it probably wasn't. I was brand 0:59:59.840 --> 1:00:02.080 new doing this kind of work. I was working with 1:00:02.160 --> 1:00:04.560 really hard stuff, and when I came home, I probably 1:00:04.600 --> 1:00:06.720 wasn't there to the degree that I wanted to be 1:00:06.880 --> 1:00:10.040 or thought I was. I can totally see that. But 1:00:10.120 --> 1:00:12.840 that took some reflection on my part to realize that. 1:00:13.520 --> 1:00:15.440 How much of this is kicking yourself as a parent, 1:00:15.520 --> 1:00:18.160 Julian that it's like, Wow, you think of the times 1:00:18.200 --> 1:00:20.280 you could have done more, been there, or done things, 1:00:21.240 --> 1:00:23.360 and you think, hey, there's a reason why my kids 1:00:23.400 --> 1:00:25.440 And it could be social, it could be relationship, it 1:00:25.440 --> 1:00:27.960 could be job, could be substance, if it could be 1:00:27.960 --> 1:00:30.200 all these things. We tend to blame ourselves. It's like, man, 1:00:30.600 --> 1:00:32.640 I was terrible as a parent because my kid isn't 1:00:32.640 --> 1:00:34.200 successful at this, this or this. 1:00:35.920 --> 1:00:40.600 Well. I think that sometimes we parents take too much 1:00:40.640 --> 1:00:42.800 of the blame and not enough of the credit for 1:00:42.880 --> 1:00:45.440 how our kids turn out. That's not true for everybody. 1:00:45.440 --> 1:00:47.160 I know parents who take all the credit for how 1:00:47.160 --> 1:00:49.480 their kids turned out. But I think so many of 1:00:49.560 --> 1:00:52.960 us say our kids' successes are theirs and their failures 1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:56.120 are shortcomings, or challenges are hours. And I think they're 1:00:56.160 --> 1:00:59.640 partly hours, and they're partly theirs, and I think they're 1:00:59.640 --> 1:01:02.560 success us as they're partly ours and partly theirs. And 1:01:02.600 --> 1:01:04.800 I think it's important to realize that that's true for 1:01:04.920 --> 1:01:07.600 our parents as well. Like we are who we are 1:01:07.680 --> 1:01:10.760 because of how we were raised, positively and negatively, our 1:01:10.840 --> 1:01:13.240 kids are who they are because of how they were raised. 1:01:13.560 --> 1:01:17.280 And your best intentions as a parent can still be 1:01:17.320 --> 1:01:20.080 the wrong thing for one or more of your children. 1:01:20.360 --> 1:01:24.240 You can't foresee every possible follow on consequence of any 1:01:24.280 --> 1:01:27.160 decision you make. That's not to let you off the 1:01:27.200 --> 1:01:30.360 hook for making bad decisions. That's just to say, no 1:01:30.400 --> 1:01:32.880 matter how well you think you've figured it all out 1:01:32.880 --> 1:01:35.320 and thought it all through, things can happen that you 1:01:35.360 --> 1:01:37.520 didn't plan on that turn out to be not as 1:01:37.520 --> 1:01:40.640 good as you'd hoped. So it's about taking the right 1:01:40.680 --> 1:01:44.280 amount of responsibility for how your children turn out, positively 1:01:44.400 --> 1:01:48.000 or negatively, and giving them responsibility for how they turn 1:01:48.040 --> 1:01:48.560 out as well. 1:01:52.080 --> 1:01:53.520 And part of this is you taking a kind of 1:01:53.520 --> 1:01:55.600 them taking come out of those zone. So if you're 1:01:55.600 --> 1:01:58.320 an adult child and you're having this conversation or why 1:01:58.360 --> 1:02:01.080 have this conversation, I guess the question would be is 1:02:01.080 --> 1:02:02.960 it too late? I mean, if you know your parents 1:02:03.000 --> 1:02:05.160 are in their nineties and you're in your sixties, it 1:02:05.240 --> 1:02:07.120 said too late to talk about this kind of stuff, 1:02:07.240 --> 1:02:10.320 or you probably won't, I'm guessing because the longer it 1:02:10.360 --> 1:02:13.080 goes more uncomfortable, it's not only going to feel but 1:02:13.440 --> 1:02:14.680 nobody's going to remember anything. 1:02:16.000 --> 1:02:16.240 Well. 1:02:16.280 --> 1:02:20.040 That may be true, and is it necessary or is 1:02:20.080 --> 1:02:23.640 it useful? That depends. So if what you're talking about 1:02:23.720 --> 1:02:27.560 is something that has impacted who you are now and 1:02:27.600 --> 1:02:30.400 you'd like your parent to understand you better, like I 1:02:30.440 --> 1:02:32.760 am this way in part because of these things that 1:02:32.880 --> 1:02:34.960 happened in my childhood when you were bringing me up, 1:02:34.960 --> 1:02:36.760 and you'd like them to understand you better. That's a 1:02:36.840 --> 1:02:40.480 valid reason if you feel like you just need to 1:02:40.640 --> 1:02:44.080 say these things. Whether your parent remembers or believes it 1:02:44.200 --> 1:02:45.960 or understands it, or whether they're going to be able 1:02:45.960 --> 1:02:48.840 to make any changes going forward or not, it's important 1:02:48.880 --> 1:02:51.080 just for you to say it to them. Hey, I 1:02:51.120 --> 1:02:53.560 am this way because of these positive things, but these 1:02:53.640 --> 1:02:56.720 challenges I have. I think they're because of this. If 1:02:56.760 --> 1:02:59.400 that's something that you need to do for yourself, that 1:02:59.520 --> 1:03:04.720 makes sense if you find that what happened is getting 1:03:04.760 --> 1:03:06.919 in the way of your relationship with them, and you'd 1:03:06.960 --> 1:03:10.600 like to have a better relationship, Clearing the air, getting 1:03:10.680 --> 1:03:16.120 some understanding, helping them know you better, and understanding maybe 1:03:16.200 --> 1:03:18.720 more about how they saw things at that period of 1:03:18.720 --> 1:03:23.360 time can really improve your relationship with at any age, 1:03:23.560 --> 1:03:26.720 whether it's ninety or whether it's sixty five. It can 1:03:26.800 --> 1:03:29.760 really help improve the relationship with your parents at any age. 1:03:29.800 --> 1:03:31.720 One of my boys and I had just such a 1:03:31.760 --> 1:03:34.640 conversation a few years ago, and things have been much 1:03:34.680 --> 1:03:35.880 better between us since. 1:03:36.600 --> 1:03:38.920 Do you say, hey, got to do some homework and 1:03:38.960 --> 1:03:40.440 think of the ways I've screwed you up, or you 1:03:40.480 --> 1:03:44.400 just have like an organic conversation, make a list, but 1:03:44.520 --> 1:03:46.919 on not more than three. 1:03:47.000 --> 1:03:48.920 No more than three, of all the ways I've screwed you. 1:03:49.000 --> 1:03:49.600 Yeah, right. 1:03:49.920 --> 1:03:53.600 Well, I think if we parents are honest, we can 1:03:53.680 --> 1:03:57.480 look back and see things that we wish we'd done differently, 1:03:58.040 --> 1:04:00.800 wish we had done that we didn't, or wish we 1:04:00.960 --> 1:04:03.800 hadn't done that we did. And I think that if 1:04:03.840 --> 1:04:07.240 we can take our own inventory of how we succeeded 1:04:07.280 --> 1:04:10.720 and where we fell short as a parent. Then when 1:04:10.920 --> 1:04:13.760 our kid, and for many of us, this will happen 1:04:13.800 --> 1:04:16.000 when our adult kid comes to us and says, hey, 1:04:16.160 --> 1:04:18.240 I want to talk to you about something, and I'll 1:04:18.280 --> 1:04:21.120 tell you often it happens when they themselves have children 1:04:21.160 --> 1:04:24.440 and become parents. Then we've already done sort of an 1:04:24.440 --> 1:04:28.800 inventory of that, and we have some sense of our 1:04:28.840 --> 1:04:33.439 own of where we feel we exceeded expectations and where 1:04:33.480 --> 1:04:36.240 we feel we fell short, So it shouldn't be a 1:04:36.360 --> 1:04:37.840 huge shock to the system. 1:04:38.000 --> 1:04:40.360 What else am I missing about this generational conversation? 1:04:40.440 --> 1:04:46.040 Jalie Well, I think that the important things to remember 1:04:46.120 --> 1:04:50.800 are that children do this most of the time because 1:04:50.840 --> 1:04:54.160 they want the relationship to be better and they feel 1:04:54.440 --> 1:04:58.360 misunderstood or not known by their parent, or they feel 1:04:58.360 --> 1:05:00.920 like they don't understand why mom our dads showed up 1:05:00.960 --> 1:05:02.800 the way they did at that point in time, and 1:05:02.840 --> 1:05:05.600 they want the relationship to be better. And I think 1:05:05.720 --> 1:05:08.360 when as parents people come to us, our kids come 1:05:08.360 --> 1:05:13.000 to us and seemingly criticize our parenting, we feel like 1:05:13.080 --> 1:05:15.840 it's because they want they don't want things to be better. 1:05:15.920 --> 1:05:19.920 We feel it's negative when in fact, it's trying usually 1:05:20.000 --> 1:05:23.840 trying to reach a level of understanding, to improve the relationship, 1:05:24.160 --> 1:05:27.640 to clear the air, to declutter things, and to get 1:05:27.680 --> 1:05:31.880 some understanding between parent and child about what happened. And 1:05:31.920 --> 1:05:34.680 so if we go into it with that mindset of 1:05:34.720 --> 1:05:37.920 openness and curiosity and lack of judgment, I think that 1:05:37.960 --> 1:05:38.960 can be really helpful. 1:05:41.360 --> 1:05:42.120 Is it almost all. 1:05:42.000 --> 1:05:45.000 The cases unless there's some major event or major trauma 1:05:45.400 --> 1:05:50.760 when the parents dies or something massive happens. In most cases, 1:05:50.800 --> 1:05:53.160 is it more like things that you have forgotten about? 1:05:53.160 --> 1:05:54.840 Are they forgotten about or they had a different prayer? 1:05:54.880 --> 1:05:56.120 It was bigger for them than wes re you and 1:05:56.240 --> 1:05:56.880 vice versa. 1:05:58.000 --> 1:06:00.200 Well, I think it's often bigger for them than it 1:06:00.240 --> 1:06:03.280 is for us because their children and everything is bigger 1:06:03.280 --> 1:06:06.360 for children than it is for adults, right because they 1:06:06.360 --> 1:06:09.920 don't have the experience or the perspective or the level 1:06:09.920 --> 1:06:12.840 of understanding of the world. Their world is what we 1:06:13.000 --> 1:06:15.680 created it to be as parents when they're very young, 1:06:16.040 --> 1:06:19.760 and so small things seemingly small things to us can 1:06:19.800 --> 1:06:23.280 be really big to them. But also the same thing 1:06:23.440 --> 1:06:27.440 can read differently to different children. So one of my sons, 1:06:27.480 --> 1:06:29.440 if I would say to him, I'm really disappointed in 1:06:29.480 --> 1:06:32.360 that choice you made. It would devastate him. The other 1:06:32.400 --> 1:06:34.800 one would be like, thank you for offering your opinion, Julie, 1:06:34.840 --> 1:06:40.000 I appreciate, and it wouldn't matter to him at all, right, 1:06:40.320 --> 1:06:43.160 But for the one, it would devastate. If I said 1:06:43.200 --> 1:06:45.760 I'm really disappointed, that was like a knife to the heart. 1:06:46.240 --> 1:06:51.760 So different kids in the same situation can have different 1:06:51.840 --> 1:06:55.280 reactions and perspectives to things. Also just depending on the 1:06:55.360 --> 1:06:58.120 kind of person that they are and that they are becoming. 1:06:58.600 --> 1:07:00.880 So yes, it's that their kids, we're the adults, but 1:07:00.920 --> 1:07:03.680 also they're their own people. They're becoming their own people, 1:07:03.720 --> 1:07:05.440 and so things are going to hit them differently. 1:07:06.160 --> 1:07:08.760 Oh yeah, that makes that makes total sense. Should you 1:07:09.440 --> 1:07:11.800 prepare for this conversation ahead of time and say, hey, 1:07:11.840 --> 1:07:13.360 we're going to sit down and talk about all they 1:07:13.400 --> 1:07:14.840 say would just simply say, hey, you. 1:07:14.880 --> 1:07:17.640 Know what, how do you how do you even open 1:07:17.720 --> 1:07:18.160 the subject? 1:07:19.160 --> 1:07:19.320 Well? 1:07:19.360 --> 1:07:22.160 I think uh should open the subject mom and dad? 1:07:22.280 --> 1:07:22.960 Or are kids? 1:07:24.160 --> 1:07:24.320 Well? 1:07:24.320 --> 1:07:27.240 I think it could go either way. So I think 1:07:27.640 --> 1:07:30.600 if you know as a parent that there's some distance 1:07:30.720 --> 1:07:33.720 or disconnect between you and your adult child, you can 1:07:33.880 --> 1:07:37.720 say something like I would really like to understand why 1:07:37.920 --> 1:07:40.640 we feel so disconnected. I'd really like to understand from 1:07:40.680 --> 1:07:43.200 your perspective why there's so much distance here, because I 1:07:43.280 --> 1:07:45.320 don't think it's coming from me. Maybe it is, but 1:07:45.360 --> 1:07:47.840 I don't think so, So i'd really like to understand that. 1:07:48.200 --> 1:07:51.360 But as if you're the kid, you can say, hey, listen, 1:07:51.440 --> 1:07:53.439 there are a few things about my childhood that I'm 1:07:53.640 --> 1:07:58.360 coming to understand differently or realizing or getting a different 1:07:58.440 --> 1:08:00.640 perspective on, and i'd really like to talk to you 1:08:00.760 --> 1:08:03.440 about them. Can we sit down and do that. It 1:08:03.560 --> 1:08:07.160 is best not to just blindside people and hijack them 1:08:07.200 --> 1:08:09.920 and start lobbing things at them when they're not expecting it, 1:08:10.400 --> 1:08:12.520 but setting up a time to sit down and talk, 1:08:12.760 --> 1:08:15.080 and then taking some time if you're the one being 1:08:15.160 --> 1:08:18.280 invited to the conversation, to really reflect on what my 1:08:18.479 --> 1:08:22.040 role was, what may be coming up, and how much 1:08:22.120 --> 1:08:24.720 responsibility does it make sense for me to take? 1:08:25.880 --> 1:08:27.960 Yeah, I don't know how. And as a parent too, 1:08:28.080 --> 1:08:29.080 so that we always try to do it's best for 1:08:29.120 --> 1:08:31.479 our kids. It's hard not to internalize this and take 1:08:31.560 --> 1:08:34.880 each one of these things is like a major I 1:08:34.920 --> 1:08:36.880 guess in a front to how we raise them, because 1:08:36.880 --> 1:08:38.720 I'm sure they understand it was difficult and there's no 1:08:38.840 --> 1:08:40.400 roles for this, specially they have kids of their own. 1:08:41.720 --> 1:08:44.840 Sure, and when they have kids of their own, as 1:08:44.920 --> 1:08:47.519 I said, that's often a time when these conversations come 1:08:47.640 --> 1:08:51.280 up because they're understanding things differently. They're seeing a similar 1:08:51.400 --> 1:08:55.200 situation happen with their children that happened with them, and 1:08:55.280 --> 1:08:57.680 they're recognizing how they handle it and how they may 1:08:57.720 --> 1:09:00.559 have handled it similarly or differently to the way their 1:09:00.640 --> 1:09:04.600 parents handled it. And so they're seeing the juxtaposition of 1:09:04.760 --> 1:09:08.320 being a parent versus being a kid, and it adds 1:09:08.400 --> 1:09:11.519 new perspectives to their childhood. And yeah, it can be 1:09:11.600 --> 1:09:15.080 a very difficult thing to hear from your kid that 1:09:15.479 --> 1:09:18.920 things that you did didn't work well for them. And 1:09:19.000 --> 1:09:21.880 the hardest ones, frankly, I think are the ones that 1:09:22.040 --> 1:09:24.600 you thought you nailed and they're like no, no, no, 1:09:24.720 --> 1:09:25.519 that was really bad. 1:09:26.200 --> 1:09:28.600 I mean, I think, right, so. 1:09:28.720 --> 1:09:31.360 We can all look back and say, wow, I really 1:09:31.479 --> 1:09:33.680 screwed that one up. I did not do that well. 1:09:33.720 --> 1:09:35.400 And your kid says you did not do that well, 1:09:35.439 --> 1:09:37.639 and you can say, no, I know, I really didn't 1:09:37.680 --> 1:09:40.000 do that well. But the things you think you crushed 1:09:40.479 --> 1:09:43.479 and they're like Nope, that was an epic fail. Those 1:09:43.560 --> 1:09:47.200 are the hard ones because your perspectives really diverged there 1:09:47.840 --> 1:09:48.680 in a very big way. 1:09:49.000 --> 1:09:51.680 Well, instead of looking this like an exit interview, you 1:09:51.760 --> 1:09:53.720 probably should look at this as like, hey, you know what, 1:09:53.920 --> 1:09:55.840 you're an adult like, we're moving to a different phase 1:09:55.840 --> 1:09:58.320 of our relationship, and the way to move forward with 1:09:58.400 --> 1:09:59.920 it is having this conversation. 1:10:00.680 --> 1:10:04.160 Exactly and to understand how and why things happen the 1:10:04.240 --> 1:10:07.800 way they happen. Usually when kids have these conversations with 1:10:07.920 --> 1:10:10.840 their parents, they want to tell them their perspective, but 1:10:10.960 --> 1:10:13.000 then they also really want to hear what was going 1:10:13.080 --> 1:10:14.920 on for mom or dad at that point in time. 1:10:15.320 --> 1:10:18.160 Why did you choose this? Instead of that, I want 1:10:18.200 --> 1:10:20.920 to understand you better too, not just I want to 1:10:21.000 --> 1:10:23.160 load all unload all of this junk on you and 1:10:23.240 --> 1:10:28.640 then walk away. They're looking for some reconciliation, some understanding, 1:10:28.800 --> 1:10:32.680 some greater connection. That's usually why they're doing it, and 1:10:32.800 --> 1:10:35.320 so keeping that in mind can keep us as parents 1:10:35.400 --> 1:10:36.360 in the right headspace. 1:10:36.600 --> 1:10:36.920 All right. 1:10:37.000 --> 1:10:39.559 She's Julie hattersh here, a licensed mental health expert. Here 1:10:39.600 --> 1:10:41.960 on the Scotsland Show every Monday morning, It's Mental Health 1:10:42.000 --> 1:10:45.080 Monday with Julie, It is really informative. I think a 1:10:45.120 --> 1:10:47.120 lot of people listen and go, wow, I probably should 1:10:47.120 --> 1:10:48.960 have this conversation, or maybe if you're not all kid, 1:10:49.000 --> 1:10:51.760 it's like, it's never too late to do this. So yeah, 1:10:52.040 --> 1:10:54.280 you can always you can't fix or you can't I 1:10:54.320 --> 1:10:56.519 guess change what happened, but you can fix the way 1:10:56.560 --> 1:10:59.120 things are moving in the future. And some closure as well. 1:10:59.160 --> 1:11:01.960 All the best have a great appreciate you, thank you. 1:11:02.439 --> 1:11:04.679 How about some news We do that in three minutes 1:11:04.680 --> 1:11:06.639 here on seven hundred WW Cincinnati. 1:11:07.040 --> 1:11:07.960 You want to be in a. 1:11:09.800 --> 1:11:11.960 Hey, it's lonely on seven hunter w ALW. What a 1:11:12.080 --> 1:11:15.560 wonderful time to be alive. Then again, maybe it's not 1:11:15.680 --> 1:11:17.800 a wonderful time to be alive. You know, we have 1:11:17.960 --> 1:11:20.240 this era of communication that we're in riding. We get 1:11:20.320 --> 1:11:22.880 so much information from all sides at all times, half 1:11:22.920 --> 1:11:24.920 of it fake, other half of it real. You know 1:11:25.120 --> 1:11:27.840 who to believe at any one time. And we live 1:11:27.880 --> 1:11:30.280 in an atmosphere too. When you say something or post 1:11:30.320 --> 1:11:33.200 something now on social you open yourself up for a 1:11:33.320 --> 1:11:36.200 tax like we've never seen before. Whether you know, everyone's 1:11:36.200 --> 1:11:38.160 a title of theirn opinion but not their own facts. Right, 1:11:38.200 --> 1:11:41.240 and even just posting your opinion you can get broiled 1:11:41.280 --> 1:11:44.320 pretty good. So in that regard too, despite this wonderful 1:11:44.360 --> 1:11:46.680 avenue of communication, we have a paradox and that is 1:11:46.680 --> 1:11:49.200 a lot of people are afraid to voice their opinion 1:11:49.360 --> 1:11:52.960 because you're afraid people will reject you. And there's something 1:11:53.040 --> 1:11:56.360 that's driving this thing, and it's called the weaponization of loneliness. 1:11:56.400 --> 1:11:59.080 Absolutely fascinating. Stella Moribidos on the show to talk about 1:11:59.120 --> 1:12:01.559 it this morning on se on under WLW Scots Sold show. 1:12:01.560 --> 1:12:02.479 Stella, good morning, how are you? 1:12:03.720 --> 1:12:06.280 Good morning? Thank you, I'm fine. I hope you're doing 1:12:06.360 --> 1:12:06.720 well too. 1:12:07.000 --> 1:12:08.680 You know, someone could take that question just to me, 1:12:08.760 --> 1:12:10.439 asking how are you and you said I'm fine, and 1:12:10.560 --> 1:12:12.680 someone if you posted that on the I don't know, 1:12:12.760 --> 1:12:15.400 Twitter or the Gram or Facebook or whatever it might be, 1:12:15.880 --> 1:12:17.800 someone would attack you for saying I'm fine. 1:12:18.040 --> 1:12:19.519 And that's what you're. 1:12:19.400 --> 1:12:22.120 Talking about, right, is no matter what you say, there's 1:12:22.160 --> 1:12:24.759 someone out there lurking that's going to take those words, 1:12:24.840 --> 1:12:27.320 use it against you, or counter those claims and really 1:12:27.520 --> 1:12:28.360 try to ruin your day. 1:12:30.400 --> 1:12:34.320 Yeah, it's a crazy, upside down world we're living in 1:12:34.479 --> 1:12:37.800 right now. And thanks so much for having me on 1:12:38.000 --> 1:12:40.559 to talk about my book, The Weaponization of a Loneliness, 1:12:40.680 --> 1:12:46.040 because I believe that basically my thesis is that all 1:12:46.120 --> 1:12:50.160 of these crazy agendas that we are dealing with today 1:12:50.320 --> 1:12:57.760 that have turned into crazy policies is because of self censorship. 1:12:57.840 --> 1:13:01.680 And that self censorship happens when we're fearful of being 1:13:01.720 --> 1:13:05.080 ostracized for expressing what we really think or believe, or 1:13:05.120 --> 1:13:09.720 what we even see before eyes. And you know this, 1:13:11.240 --> 1:13:15.800 this fear is easily exploited and has been exploited for 1:13:15.960 --> 1:13:18.439 many decades. And you know, people are kind of like 1:13:18.560 --> 1:13:21.680 waking up and saying, how do things get crazy with 1:13:21.800 --> 1:13:24.840 all these different agendas, you know, the transgender thing, and 1:13:25.400 --> 1:13:30.160 you know, extreme environmentalism and all that. And I believe 1:13:30.160 --> 1:13:33.479 it's because we have for way too long shut up 1:13:33.680 --> 1:13:37.080 about what we believe, or even lie about what we 1:13:37.200 --> 1:13:41.000 believe a lot of people do that to avoid rejection 1:13:41.200 --> 1:13:44.560 or to get some kind of sense of status and acceptance. 1:13:45.479 --> 1:13:48.320 I was equated Stella to It's kind of like the 1:13:48.400 --> 1:13:52.000 Thompson's gazelles, right, and everyone it's a social thing. First 1:13:52.000 --> 1:13:55.480 of all, we're a tribal society, right, we need companionship 1:13:55.520 --> 1:13:56.200 and socialization. 1:13:56.360 --> 1:13:57.080 I get that whole thing. 1:13:57.120 --> 1:14:00.280 But the streaming that is now, it's like you're heard 1:14:00.280 --> 1:14:03.080 of Thompson's Gazelle's where you know, the line will pick 1:14:03.120 --> 1:14:05.000 off the weakest one, the one that's kind of floating 1:14:05.040 --> 1:14:05.679 away from the flock. 1:14:05.720 --> 1:14:07.160 And no one wants to be that thompson gazel. 1:14:07.240 --> 1:14:07.320 Right. 1:14:07.400 --> 1:14:10.200 I want to you know, I may look at something, 1:14:10.640 --> 1:14:15.400 whatever ideology I subscribe to, right, and even though I think, uh, 1:14:15.640 --> 1:14:17.120 I you know a lot of it's starting to get 1:14:17.160 --> 1:14:21.479 wrong and it's it's misguided and it's erroneous. But I'm 1:14:21.520 --> 1:14:23.200 afraid to step out of that and go, yeah, I 1:14:23.240 --> 1:14:25.200 don't want to criticize part of my herd because I 1:14:25.240 --> 1:14:27.080 don't want to be that Thompson's gazelle that gets thrown 1:14:27.080 --> 1:14:28.320 out of the herd and eaten by the line. 1:14:30.120 --> 1:14:34.519 That's right. Yeah, it's you know, it's a very hardwired impulse, right, 1:14:34.800 --> 1:14:39.839 you know, to avoid being cast out or to avoid 1:14:40.000 --> 1:14:42.840 being the one that you know has made an example of. 1:14:43.479 --> 1:14:47.320 And but we have to stand back and understand that, 1:14:48.280 --> 1:14:52.160 you know, even as bystanders were not safe. If you know, 1:14:52.280 --> 1:14:54.679 if things get to a tipping point as they seem 1:14:54.760 --> 1:14:59.080 to have gotten today, you know, with you know, political 1:14:59.120 --> 1:15:05.080 correctness and the fear of speaking out and speaking you know, 1:15:05.160 --> 1:15:08.360 what we believe. So what happens when we keep when 1:15:08.439 --> 1:15:11.679 people keep shutting up about what they believe. Over time 1:15:12.160 --> 1:15:14.080 you get something that, uh. 1:15:14.200 --> 1:15:16.560 There's a model that Elizabeth Noel Newman. 1:15:16.400 --> 1:15:16.920 Brought up. 1:15:18.320 --> 1:15:21.120 Identified in a book she called the Spiral of Silence. 1:15:21.560 --> 1:15:26.120 And what happens is that there's this illusion of public 1:15:26.200 --> 1:15:29.439 opinion that's not really true. It's an illusion that's been 1:15:29.600 --> 1:15:34.320 built through the silence of people who are fearful of 1:15:34.439 --> 1:15:37.360 expressing what they really believe. And we've got to snap 1:15:37.439 --> 1:15:41.200 out of it. We've got to understand that free speech 1:15:41.439 --> 1:15:44.360 is use it or lose it. And when we keep 1:15:44.439 --> 1:15:49.560 re re you know, reflexively responding to these demonization campaigns, 1:15:49.600 --> 1:15:53.880 and that's how it's done by tyrants. They they have campaigns, 1:15:54.120 --> 1:15:57.240 usually with slogans. There's you know, there's one hundred different 1:15:57.320 --> 1:15:59.800 things that they say, you know, whether it's bigot or 1:16:00.680 --> 1:16:05.120 now it's like election denier or you know, primate change denier. 1:16:05.240 --> 1:16:07.519 You know, goes on an anti vaxxer, you name it, 1:16:07.600 --> 1:16:14.160 conspiracy theorists. People become reflexively fearful of being identified that way, 1:16:14.520 --> 1:16:18.040 and so they shut up, and that's very dangerous. It's 1:16:18.080 --> 1:16:23.040 a very very dangerous. Yeah, it's phenomenon that got us 1:16:23.120 --> 1:16:24.840 to where we are today, I believe. 1:16:25.040 --> 1:16:27.559 And now Stella Marbeter, do you think the reason why 1:16:27.680 --> 1:16:29.519 that is too? It seems like it's worse now than 1:16:29.560 --> 1:16:32.360 ever before, but that's always every generation, right, the world's ending. 1:16:32.400 --> 1:16:35.240 I don't understand what the nation is in danger. 1:16:35.600 --> 1:16:38.439 Democracy is going to fall, and you know that's I 1:16:38.520 --> 1:16:40.080 think that's just people who have been around the block 1:16:40.120 --> 1:16:42.000 don't understand the new movements that are going on because 1:16:42.000 --> 1:16:43.240 America is always in the state of flux. 1:16:43.320 --> 1:16:44.360 We can get to that one. 1:16:44.400 --> 1:16:46.760 But I look at what you just said and I 1:16:46.800 --> 1:16:48.920 couldn't agree more that. You know, it's the and I 1:16:49.000 --> 1:16:51.560 think the problem too, And see if you agree with 1:16:51.640 --> 1:16:54.599 this is because of things like social media's I pointed out, 1:16:54.960 --> 1:16:57.120 there's so many platforms and so many opinions on those 1:16:57.200 --> 1:17:01.200 platforms that I think most people, Okay, maybe I'll check 1:17:01.240 --> 1:17:02.920 my feed once in a while looking for you know, 1:17:03.600 --> 1:17:07.400 kittens playing pianos and funny videos of people guys getting 1:17:07.479 --> 1:17:10.680 hit the stones and stuff like that, Whereas a lot 1:17:10.720 --> 1:17:12.679 of the content out there and it's just so toxic 1:17:12.760 --> 1:17:15.160 and vitriolic that that I think people there's so much 1:17:15.200 --> 1:17:16.680 noise that people are starting to tune it out. A 1:17:16.720 --> 1:17:18.920 lot of people in the middle just like I don't 1:17:18.920 --> 1:17:21.280 I don't want to clutter my mind with all that stuff, 1:17:21.520 --> 1:17:23.160 and so what's left the extremes. 1:17:24.680 --> 1:17:26.640 Yeah, no, I think yeah, I think that, And that 1:17:26.760 --> 1:17:29.120 would be a very good thing if people started really 1:17:29.240 --> 1:17:35.480 tuning tuning that out, because the social media technological communications 1:17:35.520 --> 1:17:40.240 in general is what has really magnified all of this 1:17:40.520 --> 1:17:45.400 polarization and all of this uh uh separation or isolation. 1:17:45.640 --> 1:17:48.559 Of course, COVID fast tracks a lot of that by 1:17:48.720 --> 1:17:54.439 actually enforcing our isolation and basically forcing people to get 1:17:54.520 --> 1:17:59.080 on you know, get on their devices because they're you know, 1:17:59.200 --> 1:18:02.400 isolated and there the rest and all that. But I 1:18:02.520 --> 1:18:06.479 think you're right that as people can start to see 1:18:06.680 --> 1:18:11.559 through it, you know it, they will hopefully develop more 1:18:11.720 --> 1:18:16.679 face to face, one on one, you know, relationships, which 1:18:16.720 --> 1:18:19.320 is really what will save us. I think, I think 1:18:19.520 --> 1:18:24.439 that living a virtual life versus real life is kind 1:18:24.479 --> 1:18:26.800 of what got us here and what made us so 1:18:27.200 --> 1:18:33.320 successible to these dynamics that you know, where Tyrone's exploits are. 1:18:33.439 --> 1:18:37.360 Fear of being ostracized, that it. You know, when people 1:18:37.439 --> 1:18:40.120 are able to say what they believe, they could be 1:18:40.240 --> 1:18:43.800 pleasantly surprised that those who have shut up for so 1:18:44.040 --> 1:18:47.040 long will say, oh wow, you know, I thought it 1:18:47.160 --> 1:18:49.960 was all alone. And you know, and even if the 1:18:50.080 --> 1:18:53.360 person is you know, the you know, woke or whatever, 1:18:54.720 --> 1:19:00.200 you've watered down the stereotype of what they expect. You know, 1:19:00.280 --> 1:19:02.880 when you know, just somebody in daily life that that 1:19:03.040 --> 1:19:06.479 you encounter and you expressed what you believe, it will 1:19:06.560 --> 1:19:11.479 have a very healthy effect if if we start using 1:19:11.680 --> 1:19:16.200 our our you know, our constitutional right to free speech. 1:19:16.960 --> 1:19:19.760 Stella moribido with the weaponization along in this this morning 1:19:19.800 --> 1:19:23.080 on seven hundred w LW explaining how we got to 1:19:23.160 --> 1:19:26.000 this state right down the components and the great the 1:19:26.080 --> 1:19:29.160 visitness that we have in this world in America specifically Stella, 1:19:29.240 --> 1:19:31.839 how much did in the last four years did COVID 1:19:31.960 --> 1:19:34.000 have to do with this and being isolated there? 1:19:35.080 --> 1:19:40.080 Yes, oh yeah, yeah, being isolated uh and forced and 1:19:40.320 --> 1:19:42.080 but it wasn't just that. It was a lot of 1:19:42.160 --> 1:19:46.840 the hostilities that were cultivated, uh you know, sadly through 1:19:47.200 --> 1:19:50.400 our so called leaders uh, you know, with the whole 1:19:50.439 --> 1:19:54.320 all the mandates and everything. People would you be accused 1:19:54.400 --> 1:19:56.720 of being an anti vector or not allowed at the 1:19:56.800 --> 1:19:59.920 Thanksgiving table, and and it created a lot of un 1:20:00.080 --> 1:20:07.840 necessary and very damaging hostilities, you know, during COVID. But yeah, 1:20:08.000 --> 1:20:11.040 I think that people, you know, to a certain extent, 1:20:11.160 --> 1:20:14.240 people are waking up with you know, having had that 1:20:14.360 --> 1:20:18.040 extra time on their hands. And on the other hand, 1:20:18.160 --> 1:20:20.479 there are people with time on their hands, who are 1:20:21.640 --> 1:20:24.479 you know, pushing a lot of this or a lot 1:20:24.560 --> 1:20:29.080 of this exploitation that you know. Of course, we got 1:20:29.200 --> 1:20:33.479 here through almost one hundred years of something called you know, 1:20:33.560 --> 1:20:37.800 cultural Marxism, where almost one hundred years ago there were 1:20:37.840 --> 1:20:43.479 discussions about you know, doing that long march through the institutions. 1:20:44.320 --> 1:20:47.160 And of course, as you can see, most our institutions 1:20:47.320 --> 1:20:52.360 have been subverted over time, especially education, and because education 1:20:52.600 --> 1:20:57.880 was subverted, all the other institutions that require credential, whether 1:20:58.000 --> 1:21:02.240 it's law or you know, the courts or the legislatures 1:21:02.439 --> 1:21:05.040 or you know, medicine. I mean, you know, all of 1:21:05.160 --> 1:21:09.080 that is you know becoming corrupted as a result. So 1:21:11.000 --> 1:21:13.040 that that's kind of where we are. But so the 1:21:13.320 --> 1:21:16.200 main institutions that we have to protect and what I 1:21:16.360 --> 1:21:20.280 believe have always been the big prize of the solitarians 1:21:21.000 --> 1:21:24.040 are those institutions that protect us from the mass state. 1:21:24.240 --> 1:21:29.920 That would be family, faith, and community, I mean true community, 1:21:30.080 --> 1:21:34.080 friendship and and volunteerism and the local level that is 1:21:34.360 --> 1:21:38.760 so important to uh, you know, it all begins at 1:21:38.800 --> 1:21:43.200 the local level, the preservation of freedom. And so you know, 1:21:43.280 --> 1:21:47.519 when we if we can, we could take there's a 1:21:47.560 --> 1:21:50.200 lot we can take heart from in that. But we 1:21:50.360 --> 1:21:53.840 have to protect that private sphere of vice because that's 1:21:53.960 --> 1:21:57.439 where that's where our real power is. And you know, 1:21:57.520 --> 1:21:59.160 our relationships. 1:22:00.120 --> 1:22:03.360 Orbido on the show on seven hundred WLW weaponization a loneliness. 1:22:04.760 --> 1:22:06.920 So where's this going is? Is this gonna all come 1:22:06.960 --> 1:22:08.680 to a head? Does it continue to get worse where we. 1:22:10.280 --> 1:22:13.640 Well, I think that we can put a stop to 1:22:13.800 --> 1:22:16.880 it if we begin on the local level to you know, 1:22:17.000 --> 1:22:20.840 to in all of our relationships, to say what we 1:22:21.000 --> 1:22:23.400 really believe. And there's you know, those of us who 1:22:23.520 --> 1:22:26.519 have strong relationships to fall back on. I mean a 1:22:26.600 --> 1:22:28.639 lot of people don't, like you know, there's a lot 1:22:28.680 --> 1:22:31.920 of family brokenness that has affected youth and uh, you know, 1:22:32.160 --> 1:22:35.679 faith and community. But those of us who can fall 1:22:35.840 --> 1:22:40.680 back on those strong uh, you know, the sanctuaries of relationships, 1:22:41.000 --> 1:22:43.360 have to lead the way and have to start, uh, 1:22:43.920 --> 1:22:46.960 you know, speaking out about what we believe. Because as 1:22:47.000 --> 1:22:49.960 I said before, where is it leading West Brian? Uh, 1:22:50.320 --> 1:22:54.000 free speeches, use it or lose it, and uh, you know, 1:22:54.320 --> 1:22:56.840 it can lead. It definitely leads to tyranny if we 1:22:57.200 --> 1:23:02.920 if we stop using our rights, our constitutional, unalienable right 1:23:03.280 --> 1:23:06.320 to to speak freely about what we believe. That's what 1:23:06.520 --> 1:23:11.320 allows the real truth to to come out. And uh 1:23:11.840 --> 1:23:14.479 So anyway, that's that's that's what I would say. I 1:23:14.600 --> 1:23:17.360 mean in my books, the weaponization loneliness. I kind of 1:23:17.520 --> 1:23:21.880 trace the the history of these dynamics from the French 1:23:21.960 --> 1:23:24.919 Revolution on I, you know, and I look at the science, 1:23:25.040 --> 1:23:29.679 the conformity, you know, experiments of Solomon Asks and many others, 1:23:30.400 --> 1:23:34.360 uh and uh and the institutional subversion. But at the 1:23:34.479 --> 1:23:37.200 end of the day, it really falls on us as 1:23:37.280 --> 1:23:43.120 individuals too, you know, to learn to to speak out 1:23:43.400 --> 1:23:47.680 in the you know, despite all of this, uh, you know, 1:23:47.720 --> 1:23:52.360 all all the pressures, all the pressures too, you know, 1:23:53.360 --> 1:23:57.480 to exploit our fear of being isolated ostracized. 1:23:57.520 --> 1:24:01.320 Yeah, that's the new mccarthy'sm except it's it's more not 1:24:01.439 --> 1:24:04.680 only more global, but more encompassing than just McCarthy's as 1:24:04.920 --> 1:24:06.759 a small sliver of it right back in the fifties, 1:24:06.840 --> 1:24:09.000 because you know, we have the wolf culture. Now if 1:24:09.040 --> 1:24:11.320 you tweet or say anything mean that someone's going to 1:24:11.360 --> 1:24:13.920 tell you safe spaces and all a little nonsense. Then 1:24:13.960 --> 1:24:16.639 you have Twitter, so you know, well pre musk anyway, 1:24:17.040 --> 1:24:19.000 now we're going to go after what people are saying 1:24:19.120 --> 1:24:21.640 or you know, trying to fact check people's opinions and 1:24:22.000 --> 1:24:24.880 how far do you want to slice that apple to 1:24:25.000 --> 1:24:26.920 the point of absurdity. But you're right, you know, if 1:24:26.960 --> 1:24:30.120 you let people see and speak freely, even if it's 1:24:30.200 --> 1:24:33.840 erroneous or misguided, and then let public opinion debated and 1:24:34.000 --> 1:24:35.840 argue it and get some of the finer points out there, 1:24:35.880 --> 1:24:37.720 I think that success. When you try to shut down 1:24:37.760 --> 1:24:40.599 free speech even if you disagree with it, we're shredding 1:24:40.680 --> 1:24:43.640 the Constitution again. Stella more Abido's on the show this 1:24:43.720 --> 1:24:46.680 morning on seven hundred WW. It's called the weaponization of loneliness, 1:24:47.120 --> 1:24:49.880 Tyrant stoke our fear of isolation, the silence, divide and conquer. 1:24:49.960 --> 1:24:51.479 Absolutely fascinating and spot on. 1:24:52.000 --> 1:24:54.000 Thank you very much, you betch them. 1:24:54.040 --> 1:24:56.360 Yeah, I know the discussion about TikTok bands, some countries 1:24:56.400 --> 1:24:59.280 banning social media stortain ages and the like. I think, 1:24:59.600 --> 1:25:01.519 you know, future generations are going to learn from this 1:25:01.640 --> 1:25:03.679 and go, Okay, we can't believe everything we see. Maybe 1:25:03.760 --> 1:25:08.040 we will become more grounded in a sense and become 1:25:08.640 --> 1:25:12.000 more suspect of things rather than being the sheeple that 1:25:12.080 --> 1:25:14.200 we are. And also knowing the fact that most of 1:25:14.200 --> 1:25:16.320 the stuff posting, a lot of the crazy stuff out 1:25:16.320 --> 1:25:18.120 there are bots. Anyways, and I've been real people. 1:25:18.439 --> 1:25:20.200 We got to get a news update in It's a 1:25:20.240 --> 1:25:21.040 Scott Sloan show. 1:25:21.080 --> 1:25:23.280 When or return. James Repene is here. We had football 1:25:23.360 --> 1:25:26.840 this weekend. What we have football? The AFC NFC championship 1:25:26.880 --> 1:25:30.120 games are set a lot of controversy rolving around my bills, 1:25:30.200 --> 1:25:31.160 but not just. 1:25:31.200 --> 1:25:34.280 There, but elsewhere too. The pair of the NFL is 1:25:34.400 --> 1:25:37.080 absolutely incredible. You couldn't script it any better, which makes 1:25:37.120 --> 1:25:39.200 people go, you know they script all this stuff right, 1:25:40.120 --> 1:25:43.280 speaking of controls on social media. Incredible. 1:25:43.800 --> 1:25:46.439 We'll set the stage next James Rapine from Bengals Talk 1:25:46.479 --> 1:25:48.400 dot Com and Lockdown Bengals. 1:25:48.640 --> 1:25:49.040 Just ahead. 1:25:49.040 --> 1:25:53.400 We'll also preview tonight's National Championship game as Indiana looks 1:25:53.439 --> 1:25:57.519 to make it a perfect season in Miami. Details coming 1:25:57.600 --> 1:26:04.080 up Scott's Loan show seven hundred W. Scott's Loan here 1:26:04.120 --> 1:26:06.960 on seven hundred WLW. The championships are set in the 1:26:07.040 --> 1:26:10.280 National Football League AFC. It's New England at Denver, and 1:26:10.439 --> 1:26:13.960 then Seattle will host the Rams on the NFC side 1:26:14.000 --> 1:26:16.439 and determine who is going to go to the Super Bowl. 1:26:16.520 --> 1:26:20.000 We also have the College Football National Championship game tonight 1:26:20.120 --> 1:26:22.200 and IU which everyone here is pulling for. I know 1:26:22.320 --> 1:26:25.040 I am against number ten Miami home game for them, 1:26:25.160 --> 1:26:28.240 but it feels destined that I you should win this thing. 1:26:28.320 --> 1:26:30.479 We'll get into that and more and just minutes here 1:26:30.560 --> 1:26:33.080 James Rapeen is standing by James of course with Bengals 1:26:33.120 --> 1:26:35.840 Talk dot Com locked on Bengals and Sports Illustrated. 1:26:35.920 --> 1:26:37.960 James, good to have you back, brother. How are you? 1:26:39.040 --> 1:26:39.400 I'm great? 1:26:39.520 --> 1:26:39.720 Are you? 1:26:39.840 --> 1:26:40.160 I'm fine? 1:26:40.240 --> 1:26:42.400 Much rather be talking about the Bengals headed towards the 1:26:42.479 --> 1:26:46.320 AFC Championship again. But there's some lessons here. We'll get 1:26:46.360 --> 1:26:49.920 into that for our Bengals. Let's just start maybe talk 1:26:49.960 --> 1:26:52.000 a little bit about the four games over the weekend 1:26:53.240 --> 1:26:55.240 with den Well, all right, let's just pull the band 1:26:55.280 --> 1:26:58.240 aid off. My Bills got beat by Denver in overtime 1:26:58.320 --> 1:27:01.400 in a thriller thirty three thirty and the loss thirty 1:27:01.439 --> 1:27:04.439 three thirty. The final straw for ownership in Buffalo is 1:27:04.600 --> 1:27:08.320 Sean McDermott is no longer head coached, removed from duties 1:27:08.320 --> 1:27:10.920 as head coach of the Buffalo Bills. And I'm sure 1:27:11.000 --> 1:27:13.040 some are saying, well, the roughs cost him his job. 1:27:13.200 --> 1:27:15.439 And I'll preface this by saying, you know, when you 1:27:15.560 --> 1:27:18.600 commit as many turnovers as boneheaded plays, Josh Allen was 1:27:18.720 --> 1:27:22.040 very un Josh Allen like with a few of these plays. 1:27:22.080 --> 1:27:24.719 You had James Cook, who is the league's leading rusher 1:27:24.760 --> 1:27:27.040 but all the leagues leading fumbler as a running back. 1:27:28.040 --> 1:27:30.960 That though, those are problematic. But what everyone's talking about, 1:27:30.960 --> 1:27:32.439 of course, is the third and eleven from the Bills 1:27:32.520 --> 1:27:35.120 thirty six. Alan throws a deep ball to Brandon Cook's 1:27:35.120 --> 1:27:37.920 eighty five year old Brandon cooks it looks like he 1:27:38.000 --> 1:27:40.560 makes a catch, he falls the ground, there's contact and 1:27:40.840 --> 1:27:43.920 Jakwan McMillan, their cornerback, comes up with the ball, rips 1:27:43.960 --> 1:27:46.960 it out for the ant. Sean McDermott calls for a 1:27:47.040 --> 1:27:48.960 time out. They said, can you review the play, they 1:27:49.000 --> 1:27:52.080 said no, and I'll be damned if I'm not watching 1:27:52.120 --> 1:27:54.120 that in New England game and guess what happened, James, 1:27:55.920 --> 1:27:59.000 same damn play and they rolled it a catch for 1:27:59.120 --> 1:27:59.559 New England. 1:27:59.600 --> 1:27:59.880 Here we go. 1:28:00.200 --> 1:28:02.320 It makes it worse because it's New England. So give 1:28:02.360 --> 1:28:04.000 me analysis that is it overblown? 1:28:04.280 --> 1:28:05.000 Did they get it right? 1:28:07.160 --> 1:28:07.400 Yeah? 1:28:07.640 --> 1:28:11.080 I think they did get it right. I think it's 1:28:11.240 --> 1:28:14.920 really close and when you slow it down, it's easy 1:28:15.000 --> 1:28:17.439 to look at it and be like, oh, well, clearly 1:28:17.520 --> 1:28:19.960 he had possession. Clearly he's down, like I've seen screen 1:28:20.080 --> 1:28:23.120 captures and all those things. But that's about it. What 1:28:23.240 --> 1:28:26.680 it was is the cornerback was pulling it away from 1:28:26.720 --> 1:28:28.800 the cook to earth. They were falling and pulled it 1:28:28.840 --> 1:28:33.280 away from Cooks and you're probably about a half skin 1:28:33.400 --> 1:28:36.160 away from it being a complete catch and saying they 1:28:36.240 --> 1:28:38.519 caught it at the same time or whatever and giving 1:28:38.600 --> 1:28:40.960 the tide of the offense. I actually do think they 1:28:41.000 --> 1:28:45.160 got it right, and and I totally get what you're saying, 1:28:45.240 --> 1:28:47.280 because yeah, they did have it. It was in the 1:28:47.360 --> 1:28:51.679 Rams game DeVante Adams over the middle and DeVante's going 1:28:51.760 --> 1:28:52.680 down and. 1:28:55.000 --> 1:28:58.000 That one tooland game as well. It's like it. 1:28:58.160 --> 1:29:00.320 And that's so NFL right that they're like, okay, but 1:29:00.439 --> 1:29:02.640 they took time, they looked at that stuff. That's you know, 1:29:02.800 --> 1:29:04.519 you can make a case, Okay, hey did he have it. 1:29:04.640 --> 1:29:06.160 I you know, I'm a Bills fan. I'm gonna say 1:29:06.160 --> 1:29:08.120 he made the catch and we got screwed because that 1:29:08.200 --> 1:29:10.720 pushes the narrative that it wasn't us, it was them 1:29:10.720 --> 1:29:12.320 and it's us against the world. I get that kind 1:29:12.320 --> 1:29:15.000 you know, every team has that attitude. But the fact 1:29:15.040 --> 1:29:17.040 that they didn't go okay, hold on, just let's take 1:29:17.080 --> 1:29:20.040 a beat here. It's it's over time. Let's just take 1:29:20.080 --> 1:29:21.600 a beat and look at this thing like they do. 1:29:21.840 --> 1:29:24.160 They didn't do that, and that's now what the unemployed 1:29:24.200 --> 1:29:25.280 Sean McDermott was saying. 1:29:25.960 --> 1:29:28.840 Sure, and they absolutely should have done that. To your point, Yeah, 1:29:28.880 --> 1:29:33.360 they absolutely should have reviewed it because that call, it's 1:29:33.439 --> 1:29:36.200 like any angy of those calls in overtime, it's going 1:29:36.280 --> 1:29:39.920 to decide the game. If that's rule they catch, the 1:29:40.080 --> 1:29:43.840 Bills are in the AFC Championship Game. Yeah, and the 1:29:43.920 --> 1:29:46.080 Bills are the ones that are going to New England 1:29:46.160 --> 1:29:50.120 now a divisional match up with a Super Bowl appearance 1:29:50.160 --> 1:29:53.280 on the line. So yeah, I think that's the part 1:29:53.360 --> 1:29:56.880 that would be the most frustrating to me, is if 1:29:56.920 --> 1:29:58.439 you're going to have to replay and you're going to 1:29:58.520 --> 1:30:01.320 have all these resources, you need to make sure that 1:30:01.439 --> 1:30:06.080 it's right. And I believe that they got it right, 1:30:06.160 --> 1:30:08.280 but you still want to check to make sure right. 1:30:08.360 --> 1:30:09.960 It's not like it's, you know, second last game of 1:30:10.000 --> 1:30:12.240 the season. It doesn't matter that that this means something. 1:30:13.040 --> 1:30:15.000 And I will say this, it's interesting. My brother and 1:30:15.120 --> 1:30:16.640 his wife went out to the game, went out to 1:30:16.680 --> 1:30:18.640 Denver for it, and he said after it's like so 1:30:18.760 --> 1:30:21.920 many Denver fans are sitting in bars and they're like, man, 1:30:22.000 --> 1:30:24.680 that was a catch. So even Denver fans are like, well, 1:30:24.680 --> 1:30:26.679 you guys got to thank for us, But you guys 1:30:26.760 --> 1:30:27.760 got kind of job there. 1:30:29.040 --> 1:30:30.639 If this story couldn't get more bizarre. 1:30:30.920 --> 1:30:33.559 In Denver Advancity the AFC title game, Bo Nicks breaks 1:30:33.600 --> 1:30:35.280 his ankle on the second or last play before the 1:30:35.320 --> 1:30:38.240 game winning field goal. So Jace Jared's did him. The 1:30:38.280 --> 1:30:41.440 backup has a week to get ready. That's unprecedented. 1:30:43.600 --> 1:30:45.160 Yeah, yeah, it's. 1:30:46.680 --> 1:30:47.280 How do you do that? 1:30:48.720 --> 1:30:51.320 It's either going to be a Disney movie for one way, 1:30:51.400 --> 1:30:55.760 or a Disney movie the other way, and it's you know, 1:30:55.920 --> 1:31:00.800 I I think it's one that is a local tide 1:31:00.800 --> 1:31:04.599 of this. And I wrote this yesterday that the Denver 1:31:04.680 --> 1:31:07.680 Broncos they believed in Jared Sidham and they paid him 1:31:07.960 --> 1:31:11.840 a two year, twelve million dollars deal. And so that 1:31:11.920 --> 1:31:13.240 doesn't mean that he's going to play well in the 1:31:13.280 --> 1:31:16.800 AFC Championship team against New England. But what it does 1:31:16.960 --> 1:31:21.880 mean is they they gave themselves an actual quality backup option, 1:31:22.080 --> 1:31:24.280 which you want to have, and you never know what 1:31:24.360 --> 1:31:27.719 could happen. And it's really unfortunate what happened. What happened 1:31:27.720 --> 1:31:32.160 at bot Nick h Really honestly, I thought, I thought 1:31:32.200 --> 1:31:34.920 Sean Payton has throwing the ball far too much. When 1:31:34.960 --> 1:31:36.920 you see the ball fifty times of boone, next run 1:31:37.000 --> 1:31:37.720 the ball a little bit more. 1:31:38.520 --> 1:31:39.040 They didn't. 1:31:39.240 --> 1:31:41.720 And uh yeah, So now how do you find your 1:31:41.800 --> 1:31:44.600 way to a super Bowl? You're four quarters away and 1:31:44.640 --> 1:31:47.439 you have Jared Sidham, So it's a it's a tough ask. 1:31:47.560 --> 1:31:49.599 On the other side if you're New England and you're like, hell, yeah, 1:31:49.640 --> 1:31:51.760 we have Jared Siddam, so we have to go up 1:31:52.439 --> 1:31:52.920 right right. 1:31:53.040 --> 1:31:56.160 And there is a much film on him yeah, are 1:31:56.200 --> 1:31:58.160 they going to scheme here? And that's also a home 1:31:58.200 --> 1:31:59.920 game for the Broncos too, Let's not lose that one. 1:32:00.479 --> 1:32:03.040 New England gets there to play the Broncos. By beating 1:32:03.160 --> 1:32:05.519 Houston twenty eight to sixteen, he could kind of feel 1:32:05.560 --> 1:32:07.720 this coming in Houston. Defense is unbelievable. 1:32:07.720 --> 1:32:08.200 But CJ. 1:32:08.360 --> 1:32:11.080 Stroud does not look like the CJ. Stroud of a 1:32:11.080 --> 1:32:14.280 couple of seasons. Go four picks and just didn't look 1:32:14.560 --> 1:32:16.040 He looked as bad as he did in Pittsburgh. I 1:32:16.120 --> 1:32:16.559 think didn't. 1:32:17.680 --> 1:32:21.280 Yeah he did, I mean worse I was. I don't 1:32:21.320 --> 1:32:24.200 know what's going on, Troy. It's been a few times 1:32:24.240 --> 1:32:26.759 on the broadcast mentioned he may have a hand injury. 1:32:27.240 --> 1:32:31.080 I don't know, man. I just awful, I mean awful 1:32:31.160 --> 1:32:33.679 quarterback back. I guess that's the one thing if you're Denver, 1:32:34.000 --> 1:32:36.519 Jared Stadham can't be worse than c J. Stroud. Yeah, 1:32:36.680 --> 1:32:41.240 so you have that as a floor. He's he was 1:32:41.320 --> 1:32:44.240 so promising as a rookie and I sink back to 1:32:44.320 --> 1:32:47.760 that game here that he had and that was kind 1:32:47.760 --> 1:32:51.200 of the beginning of the CJ. Stroud rookie experience where 1:32:51.200 --> 1:32:53.479 the Houston Decans gone to make the playoffs. That year 1:32:53.600 --> 1:32:56.559 they win a playoff game, and they won a playoff 1:32:56.600 --> 1:32:58.320 game in each of his first three seasons. But this 1:32:58.439 --> 1:33:00.600 year was obviously because of the defense last week in 1:33:00.640 --> 1:33:05.280 Pittsburgh and then this week. I don't know, because now 1:33:05.280 --> 1:33:07.080 they're going to decide whether or not to pay him 1:33:07.240 --> 1:33:10.000 like he's he's eligible for a contract extension. Can you 1:33:10.120 --> 1:33:14.120 imagine paying CJ. Shouts fifty million dollars per year after that? 1:33:14.280 --> 1:33:15.439 I don't think I could do it. 1:33:15.920 --> 1:33:16.879 Yeah, yeah, exactly. 1:33:18.200 --> 1:33:20.719 You know, this air has been over for a while, James, 1:33:20.800 --> 1:33:22.320 and for those who are just kind of casual with it, 1:33:22.439 --> 1:33:25.559 it's you know, the Texans have a super Bowl caliber defense, 1:33:25.600 --> 1:33:28.000 no question, but it's offensive wins championships. If you don't 1:33:28.000 --> 1:33:32.559 have CJ. Stroudter quarterback that's capable, you ink in advance Seattle, 1:33:32.680 --> 1:33:35.000 speaking of which looks like the real deal. H the 1:33:35.120 --> 1:33:37.760 foregone conclusion is that they're the super Bowl champs this year. 1:33:37.800 --> 1:33:40.599 Forty one six. They put San Francisco out of their misery. 1:33:41.240 --> 1:33:42.960 It kind of looks that San Francisco as a team 1:33:43.000 --> 1:33:45.439 looked like Aaron Rodgers. This was like the last gasp, right, 1:33:46.000 --> 1:33:48.360 They're only put up six on the net they're rebuild 1:33:48.400 --> 1:33:49.360 mode behind brock Party. 1:33:50.760 --> 1:33:51.880 Yeah, it feels that way. 1:33:52.080 --> 1:33:56.519 You know, they had a lot of injuries, and you know, 1:33:56.600 --> 1:33:59.360 I thought that they had a chance going in the 1:33:59.400 --> 1:34:03.160 wild card round and then you go in and you 1:34:03.280 --> 1:34:05.880 lose George Kittle and that's just the next injury, and 1:34:05.960 --> 1:34:07.920 it's like they just they just don't have enough on all. 1:34:08.760 --> 1:34:12.560 You know, And you're right, you're right about offense winning championships. 1:34:12.560 --> 1:34:14.960 A lot of people listening probably disagree with that, maybe 1:34:15.160 --> 1:34:18.320 roll their eyes. It's exactly what happens in today's NFL. 1:34:18.439 --> 1:34:22.920 You have to have dudes around your quarterback and when 1:34:22.920 --> 1:34:24.800 they walk Kittle, I knew it would be enough hill 1:34:24.880 --> 1:34:29.439 climb and you flip it seattle Man. They didn't even that. 1:34:29.600 --> 1:34:33.800 They did that in Jackson Smith and Jigbuk didn't. It's 1:34:33.840 --> 1:34:36.000 not like he had a huge game. They leaned on 1:34:36.080 --> 1:34:39.040 the run game. Cam Donald only threw it seventeen times. 1:34:39.080 --> 1:34:40.439 He didn't have to do a lot, and so you 1:34:40.560 --> 1:34:44.000 got Kenneth Walker running for three touchdowns. Cooper cup led 1:34:44.040 --> 1:34:46.519 them and receiving. Guess what, Cooper Put's not going to 1:34:46.600 --> 1:34:49.240 leave them in receiving this week. They're gonna be able 1:34:49.240 --> 1:34:51.519 to lean on that passing game that they need to 1:34:51.720 --> 1:34:54.599 and so yeah, there, their defense is really good. They're 1:34:54.600 --> 1:34:57.760 well coached. Obviously they had Mike McDonald and what was 1:34:57.840 --> 1:35:02.160 the Ravens defensive coordinator before going to Seattle. It's a really, 1:35:02.200 --> 1:35:03.160 really tough matchup for. 1:35:03.120 --> 1:35:05.360 The Don't see a lot of flaws here with Seattle, 1:35:05.479 --> 1:35:08.559 right because you know defense, as we mentioned, I think 1:35:08.640 --> 1:35:11.000 it went forty four points to six teams at face 1:35:11.000 --> 1:35:13.559 over the last seven games. At force some turnovers like crazy, 1:35:14.920 --> 1:35:16.880 and you know, the Seahawks have an eight game winning 1:35:16.880 --> 1:35:18.559 streak round. It's just the hot hand and they're going 1:35:18.600 --> 1:35:20.680 to ride this on the back of Sam Donold, who 1:35:20.720 --> 1:35:22.040 looks like the real deal. 1:35:22.720 --> 1:35:23.559 They are going to face. 1:35:23.439 --> 1:35:26.560 Once again against these It's the parody and also the 1:35:26.680 --> 1:35:31.400 script to the NFL. They started this run when they 1:35:31.560 --> 1:35:34.960 overcame a sixteen point fourth quarter deficit to win an 1:35:35.000 --> 1:35:37.040 ot in the RAM against the Rams in Week sixteen, 1:35:37.080 --> 1:35:39.880 and they have them in the NFC Championship game and 1:35:40.000 --> 1:35:42.479 they dispatch Caleb Williams, and Caleb Williams a little like 1:35:42.560 --> 1:35:46.439 mister do mister don't. He makes an incredible pass on 1:35:46.600 --> 1:35:49.519 fourth and four. It's like a fifty yard pass to 1:35:49.600 --> 1:35:52.280 get fourteen yards because he backpedals much hills, hits colek 1:35:52.360 --> 1:35:54.719 Met in the corner. People are going nuts in Chicago, 1:35:55.360 --> 1:35:57.800 converts a fourth down and OT and then throws his 1:35:57.960 --> 1:35:59.400 third pick of the game to give up the game 1:35:59.439 --> 1:35:59.880 winning field. 1:36:00.000 --> 1:36:00.599 Oh my god. 1:36:02.080 --> 1:36:03.839 Yeah, it's. 1:36:06.040 --> 1:36:07.240 He was so good. 1:36:09.280 --> 1:36:12.479 And then he looked so bad. Yeah, and and that. 1:36:14.280 --> 1:36:19.040 That throw that decision. It's it's tough because it with 1:36:19.240 --> 1:36:21.559 DJ Moore, was he supposed to keep running. I haven't 1:36:21.560 --> 1:36:22.639 seen the post game comments. 1:36:22.720 --> 1:36:24.400 I turned it on. It was obviously. 1:36:26.000 --> 1:36:29.920 To me, Yeah, it felt that way too. And what 1:36:30.040 --> 1:36:34.120 I would say is I'm just so impressed with Caleb 1:36:34.160 --> 1:36:38.360 Williams and how he how he responded. I mean that 1:36:38.560 --> 1:36:42.719 fourth down, I have no idea how he made that play. 1:36:42.920 --> 1:36:44.880 I just I was like, all right, well, this is 1:36:44.880 --> 1:36:46.679 how it's going to end. Like the moment he started 1:36:46.800 --> 1:36:49.960 running backwards, I was like, oh my god, Like, there's 1:36:50.080 --> 1:36:52.920 just no chance. And there are some quarterbacks on the 1:36:53.040 --> 1:36:56.560 planet that can make those kinds of plays. And so 1:36:56.680 --> 1:36:59.040 for them to win as many close games as they 1:36:59.120 --> 1:37:02.920 did and continue to do what they did down the 1:37:02.920 --> 1:37:06.320 stretch of these games, I think you can really build 1:37:06.360 --> 1:37:08.000 on that as the heck of a year for New Bears. 1:37:08.960 --> 1:37:10.639 I think there are a lot of scenarios where after 1:37:10.720 --> 1:37:11.400 that player they win. 1:37:11.600 --> 1:37:13.640 Caleb Williams to me, just doesn't look like I don't know, 1:37:13.680 --> 1:37:16.800 it seems like he's regressing here to some degree, because yeah, 1:37:16.880 --> 1:37:19.200 you talk about the heroics there, but three of his 1:37:19.320 --> 1:37:21.880 picks they turned into ten points. That's plenty when you 1:37:21.920 --> 1:37:26.200 win twenty to seventeen. Matthew Stafford, who is one of 1:37:26.280 --> 1:37:30.200 the MVP favorites, if not the favorite right now, he 1:37:30.640 --> 1:37:32.040 struggled for the middle part of that game. 1:37:32.080 --> 1:37:33.880 By the way he did. 1:37:34.160 --> 1:37:38.360 He did. That's that's what was a bit odd, I 1:37:38.400 --> 1:37:41.000 would say to me, is how much of a defensive flood. 1:37:40.800 --> 1:37:41.280 Test that was? 1:37:41.360 --> 1:37:43.559 And I think it's a reminder that these playoff games 1:37:43.880 --> 1:37:45.960 sometimes they are ugly. You know, you could be a 1:37:46.000 --> 1:37:48.840 great quarterback and turn them all over like Josh Allen 1:37:48.920 --> 1:37:50.920 did or Cayleb Williams did, And I'm not saying they're 1:37:50.920 --> 1:37:55.040 in the same category as Matt Stafford did. And he 1:37:55.120 --> 1:37:59.719 got away with one or two almost interceptions as well. 1:38:00.160 --> 1:38:02.080 And uh, I mean usually comes down to a big 1:38:02.120 --> 1:38:05.520 play like that, right, So your defense, you need playmakers 1:38:06.040 --> 1:38:07.840 in your offense. You need guys that are gonna be 1:38:07.840 --> 1:38:09.360 able to step up and make a player or two 1:38:10.040 --> 1:38:13.080 and and that's what happened. I mean after the interception, 1:38:13.840 --> 1:38:18.120 made a big play to get them downfield and as 1:38:18.160 --> 1:38:19.960 they were working their way in the field goal range. 1:38:20.040 --> 1:38:22.800 So it's, uh, it's gonna be a tough one. 1:38:22.840 --> 1:38:26.559 I do think that rams Seahawks, that they played two 1:38:26.680 --> 1:38:30.160 great games, that's gonna be good. Round Round three should 1:38:30.200 --> 1:38:30.519 be great. 1:38:30.600 --> 1:38:33.599 Yeah, Sam Donald the best quarterback of the weekend by far, 1:38:33.680 --> 1:38:36.280 and again that was that was just an absolute Uh. 1:38:36.840 --> 1:38:38.760 They got trucked, is what happened there? 1:38:38.800 --> 1:38:39.080 All right. 1:38:39.120 --> 1:38:42.639 So that's AFC NFC Championship. Tonight we have well college 1:38:42.680 --> 1:38:45.479 football final game of the Year, National Championship Game number 1:38:45.520 --> 1:38:47.280 one IU, which everyone on here is loving. 1:38:47.320 --> 1:38:47.679 I'm loving. 1:38:47.760 --> 1:38:49.800 I you against Miami. It's a home game for them, 1:38:50.320 --> 1:38:51.960 but screw Miami. I hate Miami. 1:38:52.160 --> 1:38:52.559 By the way. 1:38:52.680 --> 1:38:55.160 The only chance that this city's going to see a 1:38:55.240 --> 1:38:58.759 championship in Miami, of course, just tonight, because the Dolphins 1:38:58.800 --> 1:38:59.880 ain't got it going on for sure. 1:38:59.920 --> 1:39:02.360 I say, go, I you and I'm right with you. 1:39:02.600 --> 1:39:03.559 I'm rooting for them. 1:39:03.640 --> 1:39:04.439 I hope they do it. 1:39:04.439 --> 1:39:07.599 It is really hard to get in this position, even 1:39:07.640 --> 1:39:10.920 with the coach they have, even with Nil and Mark 1:39:11.000 --> 1:39:14.080 Cuban and all those things happening. I hope they finish 1:39:14.160 --> 1:39:17.600 it because this might be their only chance to do this, 1:39:18.600 --> 1:39:21.960 and maybe not, maybe they have other chances. But Fernando 1:39:22.080 --> 1:39:26.280 Mendoza is about as likable of a guy as you 1:39:26.400 --> 1:39:28.280 can have. He's going to be the number one pick. 1:39:28.360 --> 1:39:30.800 He's going to go to Las Vegas, which is kind 1:39:30.800 --> 1:39:33.160 of wild to me when you see his personality in 1:39:33.200 --> 1:39:36.639 his interviews, but that's what's going to happen. So we'll 1:39:36.640 --> 1:39:41.160 see if he can get a national championship one tonight. 1:39:41.479 --> 1:39:44.240 And yeah, I don't know anyone rooting for Miami. 1:39:45.040 --> 1:39:46.200 Other than in my well. 1:39:46.240 --> 1:39:48.120 I mean, it certainly is the you know, they're the 1:39:48.200 --> 1:39:50.920 dog of college football playoffs because they beat a seven 1:39:50.960 --> 1:39:52.600 to six and the number two in Ohio State. But 1:39:53.120 --> 1:39:56.400 my god, the Hoosiers have just steamrolled everybody, I mean, right, 1:39:56.560 --> 1:39:59.920 thirty eight three in the Rose Bowl, fifty six against Oregon, 1:40:00.000 --> 1:40:03.839 and no one is stopping Fernando Mendoza in this defense. 1:40:03.920 --> 1:40:07.280 And it's so good that even Kurtz Signetty may smile 1:40:07.320 --> 1:40:07.840 at some point. 1:40:09.120 --> 1:40:12.280 He might, he might have he might smile a little bit. 1:40:12.360 --> 1:40:16.160 I love his mindset and his attitude. You never know 1:40:16.240 --> 1:40:19.360 where he's going in interviews, and a lot of what 1:40:19.479 --> 1:40:23.760 he says is is relatable in a lot of ways. 1:40:23.800 --> 1:40:28.880 But it certainly I never thought Indiana football would be 1:40:29.000 --> 1:40:33.719 the Indiana you know. It's just it's wild. So, yeah, Miami, 1:40:34.560 --> 1:40:37.840 they're the underdogs on paper right because of the season. 1:40:38.600 --> 1:40:41.400 Let's be honest, from a from a program standpoint, it's 1:40:41.520 --> 1:40:45.640 not close. Historically, Indiana was nowhere near this, and so 1:40:45.720 --> 1:40:47.479 if they could finish this off, what a what a 1:40:47.560 --> 1:40:48.120 run it would be? 1:40:48.320 --> 1:40:49.639 It should be a blowout tonight. 1:40:51.320 --> 1:40:52.720 I mean, I hope it's a good game because I 1:40:52.760 --> 1:40:55.160 reached the good games in the one game I didn't 1:40:55.200 --> 1:40:57.599 finish over the weekend. Guess which one? 1:40:57.640 --> 1:40:57.880 It was? 1:40:59.600 --> 1:41:01.800 No reason, no reason, I turned that off, Like first 1:41:01.880 --> 1:41:04.320 quarter'm I like, okay, this is gonna There's no way 1:41:04.600 --> 1:41:08.120 it just gets over. No chance, no chance. So all right, 1:41:08.200 --> 1:41:12.320 that's uh seven thirty tonight, right, seven thirty. I believe that, 1:41:12.439 --> 1:41:15.400 yeah somewhere around there. Anyway, Well, the pregame started yesterday, 1:41:15.479 --> 1:41:16.080 so we're good. 1:41:16.439 --> 1:41:16.519 Uh. 1:41:16.680 --> 1:41:19.080 James Rapine, of course, our guy over at Bengals Talk 1:41:19.120 --> 1:41:21.599 dot com and lockdown Bengals. Why don't we get together 1:41:21.640 --> 1:41:23.240 next week and chop up and see who's going to 1:41:23.320 --> 1:41:25.840 this little Super Bowl preview, if you will, and talk 1:41:25.880 --> 1:41:29.000 about officiating and turnovers and everything else, because that was 1:41:29.040 --> 1:41:30.240 a weekend full of it, for sure. 1:41:30.479 --> 1:41:31.479 But I appreciate you. Thanks. 1:41:31.560 --> 1:41:35.439 Yeah, let's do it seven seven thirty. There you going 1:41:35.520 --> 1:41:37.400 to look it up seven thirty tonight. I'll be watching 1:41:37.439 --> 1:41:38.320 for sure. Appreciate man. 1:41:38.320 --> 1:41:40.080 I have a good one, thanks, Gott. 1:41:40.240 --> 1:41:42.720 All Right, we're rolling the news and uh, I don't 1:41:42.720 --> 1:41:43.559 know Willie's here today. 1:41:43.560 --> 1:41:45.240 I'm not sure. I think ken Brew is here actually, 1:41:45.320 --> 1:41:48.479 so we'll do that right after news on this MLK day, Sloany, 1:41:48.600 --> 1:41:50.599 home of the best Bengals coverage, Home of the Reds. 1:41:51.040 --> 1:41:53.920 We're inside that what almost sixty day market this point, 1:41:53.960 --> 1:41:56.439 pretty close to it anyway. Seven hundred WWD, Cincinnati,