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Speaker 1: Human from the fish filled Midwest Lakes to the deep

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Speaker 1: woods of the North upland prairies filled with pheasants, to

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Speaker 1: the whistling wings of duck ponds. This is Saturday Morning,

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Speaker 1: Fan Outdoors, your show for hunting and fishing tips, topics

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Speaker 1: and conversations. You can also send us a question or

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Speaker 1: opinion by emailing us booth at kfean dot com. Here's

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Speaker 1: your host, the Fans, Captain Billy Hildegraham.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Fan Outdoors, faithful, Good morning to you. Yes

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Speaker 2: up and Adam and all up and Georgia and nowhere

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Speaker 2: we go. It's uh, it's dark, but it is morning

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Speaker 2: about one minute after the hour of six o'clock. So

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Speaker 2: we're with you for the next two hours. So we

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Speaker 2: would be my co host and friend mister Bob Saint Beer,

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Speaker 2: fresh off pheasants forever, where he has moved down to

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Speaker 2: earth just a little bit and his twitchy eyes have

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Speaker 2: kind of settled down to Good morning, sir. What did

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Speaker 2: twitchy eyes look like? Just well like you did last weekend. Hey,

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Speaker 2: thank thank you, and thank you Brett for doing us

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Speaker 2: two shows last Saturday. Sincerely appreciated, very helpful. We had

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Speaker 2: a very nice crowd of people last weekend, and thank

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Speaker 2: you to everybody that came out. And I'm sure that

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Speaker 2: they did enjoy it too, as I did, and my kids,

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Speaker 2: my grandkid thoroughly enjoyed. Did you buy a John Deere tractor? After?

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Speaker 2: But they were going to try to get one out

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Speaker 2: of the place.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting that to be the center of their attention.

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Speaker 3: But they liked climbing all over those tracks.

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Speaker 2: They liked green, evidently John Deere green. And yeah, they

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Speaker 2: did have a good time. Did anybody pick up anything,

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Speaker 2: anybody in your family buy a vester?

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Speaker 2: I think they came home with pretty much all the

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Speaker 2: kids that they took there. Yeah, that's the key, huh.

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Speaker 2: In fact, Chad and Katie are in San Diego as

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Speaker 2: we speak. Really. Yeah, they flew down the other day

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Speaker 2: and they initially planned to go to Mexico. Oh and

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Speaker 2: that got change toward yes, but having a great time,

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Speaker 2: just a vacation. Yeah. The weather is incredible, eighty degree

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Speaker 2: yesterday and they're flying out Sunday, I believe, or Monday morning.

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Speaker 2: But the temperature drops back to about sixty when they're gone.

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Speaker 2: If they maybe they play their cards right, somebody will

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Speaker 2: pay them a little bit to stay around for a while.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, they're having a great time. Does it make

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Speaker 2: you want to take a vacation? Nope, I'm good. We're

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Speaker 2: on the customer spring all right now. And if we

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Speaker 2: get through these next couple of days, which roller coaster teps, yeah,

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Speaker 2: because it's supposed to snow and maybe reach twenty today. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But is it supposed to get warm next week? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: It is, oh really supposed to be in the forties

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Speaker 2: and thirties and forties for the next at least two weeks.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe how much snow we lost in the

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Speaker 3: last two days. I because it wasn't as warm as

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Speaker 3: it was what ten days ago. But you know I

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Speaker 3: got home yesterday and my yard was virtually clear snow.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand what happened. Did you come over and

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Speaker 3: I show it away?

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Speaker 2: I moved it. I'll put it back. It's okay. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you two are going to gang up on me. This

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Speaker 2: is this is how it's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just saw an opportunity to strike. Are you

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Speaker 2: taking Senator Kobachar's spot in this show? Just stay off

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Speaker 2: of my yard, That's all I want mine is fairly clean.

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Speaker 2: I've got a neighbor just like you too, and it's

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Speaker 2: not my favorite one. I'm just telling you I have

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Speaker 2: to clean his yard up and mine to keep it off.

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Speaker 2: So it sounds like a great guy. I'm sure Dave

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Speaker 2: is thinking the same thing. But no, it's actually today

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Speaker 2: the wind is going to die down north. They changed

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Speaker 2: But the high of twenty one that's gone up a

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Speaker 2: little bit from the earlier forecast. Isn't there snow in

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Speaker 2: the forecast today? Yeah? Well, it depends what percentage you

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Speaker 2: put count because it's not a real high percentage. But

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Speaker 2: you want a different forecast, you look at a different

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Speaker 2: app on your phone. That's true. I mean everybody's trying

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Speaker 2: to outdo themselves. What's your app of choice? Weather dot com? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Really yeah yeah, yeah, See it's amazing how positive that

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Speaker 2: have positive for this guy too, because I'm going to

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Speaker 2: put some boxes in the car, and Brie and I

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Speaker 2: Really today, you're doing this on Tuesday. Weather's supposed to

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Speaker 2: migrating north. Well just for the day, Okay, I need

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Speaker 2: least favorite thing in the whole wide world to do.

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Speaker 2: It seems a little premature to be moving stuff back

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Speaker 2: up but still in plastic containers so the mice can't

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Speaker 2: asked you this before, but what's the normal time where

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Speaker 2: I usually get the water on first part of me

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Speaker 2: to close some of the valves that are open for

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Speaker 2: the winter time because there's no water in it. It'll

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Speaker 2: be just a matter of flipping a switch when it's

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Speaker 2: time to go. Today's last day of February. Yes, it is, Well,

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Speaker 2: there's free beer tomorrow at a couple of the liquor

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Speaker 2: stores because of February twenty eight, twenty ninth. What yeah,

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Speaker 2: February forty ninth, but it's not that's when the beer

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Speaker 2: is free. So they just get you to come in.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, just free beers February twenty night. So

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Speaker 2: every four years on a leap yere, maybe I'll probably

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Speaker 2: take that sale off then probably yeah, oh yeah that's

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Speaker 2: not probably every years. Your algorithm is different than mine.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, but yeah, it's it's coming, and I

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Speaker 2: can I walk around the I'm such a dweep. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah it is a little early, Yeah it is. But

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Speaker 2: the your Hunt your fishing license ye buyers today and

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Speaker 2: there is a new app that's going to be released

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Speaker 2: by the Department Natural Resources a year late, so you know,

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Speaker 2: but a year late, and this spring is going to

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Speaker 2: be out a new app to buy your license. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: so your is your license on your phone going forward?

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Speaker 2: Or yeah? Is that part of the deal. I believe so.

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Speaker 2: And you can apply for all kinds of licenses on

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Speaker 2: your phone. And however, I did buy mine already, you did,

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Speaker 2: I buy it online? Yeah, and you printed it off. Yes.

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Speaker 2: And then usually what I do later in the summer

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Speaker 2: spay a buck and a half and get the plastic copy.

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Speaker 2: So I've got that. And I was trying to get

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Speaker 2: I didn't work real hard. But the computer is old

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Speaker 2: and so am I. But I'm resisting buying a new one.

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Speaker 2: And it's a little like you know, Brett kind of

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Speaker 2: bit the bullet with some new clubs. I need to

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Speaker 2: do the same thing with a computer, I think. But

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Speaker 2: we'll see. We'll see. Gonna be out and about with

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Speaker 2: the dogs, I don't. I was talking with my buddy

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Speaker 2: about running dogs today, so we'll see. We'll see. I've

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Speaker 2: got three my at my house now, too, so it's

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Speaker 2: there's a I do poop patrol every day. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: better to pick a up when they're a little bit frozen.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. I waited a couple of years, a

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Speaker 2: long time ago. I just let the snow pile up

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Speaker 2: bad thing. I had just a couple of garbage bags

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Speaker 2: together and filled it up with dog craps. Oh bob,

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Speaker 2: what a disaster. The bag broke. Oh geez, captain, and

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Speaker 2: I was getting close to the garage floor. Just let go.

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Speaker 2: There's your public service announcement. I don't do that. That

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Speaker 2: is really a bad idea. And I have when I

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Speaker 2: get up the lake Tuesday, I've got to spend a

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Speaker 2: little time taking zebra muscles off the lips. Really, Oh

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Speaker 2: my goodness, gracious, they are just plaster, not it. And

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Speaker 2: I can take if I take a gloved hand, I

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Speaker 2: can rub them off and they'll come off. But there there,

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Speaker 2: it's just black the whole thing. So what's your assessment

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Speaker 2: zebra muscles good or bad for sock? Well, it clears

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Speaker 2: the water a little bit, but it takes the The

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Speaker 2: damage it does to the ecosystem is not worth it.

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Speaker 2: Keep them out of your bodies of water, people, and

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Speaker 2: be aware of that. It's and then you've got the

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Speaker 2: shells all over. But no, they they just they're plastered

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Speaker 2: on everything. Really, how like three years been there? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's been three or four. First couple of years there

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Speaker 2: but now it's after it peaks, they do decrease, don't

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Speaker 2: they a little bit? That's what they say. Yeah, I've

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Speaker 2: not experienced that in my own lifetime. But what I

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Speaker 2: have experienced is they're there on every solid thing, rocks.

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Speaker 2: Didn't they find something that naturally eats them? Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: not enough of them. I think some bluebills eat some

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Speaker 2: when they're coming through. They'll munch on them. But I

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Speaker 2: can't think of a good use for them very honestly,

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Speaker 2: other than I don't know. I scrape them off in

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Speaker 2: the yard and they eventually disappear. But I got kids

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Speaker 2: oft where the water boot the water eric cut is

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Speaker 2: fit up pretty good on one of the shelves. I

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Speaker 2: haven't but I haven't worn shoes yet with them. But

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Speaker 2: I haven't had a problem. But we'll see, we'll see. Well,

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Speaker 2: this morning we are going to talk coming right around

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Speaker 2: the corner with pro angler Tommy George. See if he's

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Speaker 2: still out on the ice. I think people are, but

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Speaker 2: they're recommending. I believe you have to get your houses

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Speaker 2: off March two, the houses, your fish houses March two. Oh,

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Speaker 2: so Monday you can have them on Tomorrow March second.

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Speaker 2: They have to be off. They can be on during

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Speaker 2: the day or if you're occupying them, you can't leave

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Speaker 2: them unattended. Okay, and I don't know. I've seen some

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Speaker 2: houses with just the top sticking out too, so be careful.

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Speaker 5: You've seen houses with just the top sticky, And what

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Speaker 5: does that mean they've gone through the ice spot? Oh okay,

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Speaker 5: just you know that's when sticking to the gotcha. I've

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Speaker 5: seen vehicles driving still on the ice as of last weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I imagine. Yeah, are you gonna drive? I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna drive. I'm no, no, I'm I'm not having uh.

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Speaker 2: In fact, with all the canines at my house, then

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Speaker 2: we got to do it a break. When somebody either

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Speaker 2: or somebody walks by, if they're walking their own canine,

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Speaker 2: all held good, It's gracious. It sounds like a kennel

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Speaker 2: of fifty dogs. Yeah, you have five there right now?

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Speaker 2: So just three three, just three four? Okay, see you

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Speaker 2: have Chad's two in yr yes, okay. And then Cala

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Speaker 2: team gsp over. We just add to it. Well, what

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Speaker 2: Well it's worse than that. Yeah, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: Good morning again, there we go. Hey, welcome into the conversation.

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Speaker 2: A man, a professional angler who we've known for a

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Speaker 2: He joins us right now, they know those mermaids don't bite, though,

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Speaker 2: do they Tommy?

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Speaker 6: Good morning, Billy, Bob and Brett. To tell you the truth,

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Speaker 6: I swear I saw the mermaids swimming under my truck

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Speaker 6: There was so much yeah, there was so much ice,

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Speaker 2: Oh I don't everybody. I would die to catch a mermaid.

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Speaker 6: Man. You know, you never know, you never know.

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Speaker 2: Well, you don't need you know, live imaging, because she

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Speaker 6: Exactly, that's true.

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to back away from the microphone. I'm

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Speaker 2: You have you been Have you been fishing, Tommy.

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Speaker 6: For the last two days? Yesterday was unbelievable, It was amazing.

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Speaker 6: So I thought, I'm going Friday. I wasn't planning on

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Speaker 6: But anyways, I did go out, and the fish did

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Speaker 4: But it was, it was.

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Speaker 6: I truly did get smoked out yesterday because there was

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Speaker 6: But that's what kind of spoke me out. The way

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Speaker 2: Well, Tommy, have you have you put a wheel or

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Speaker 4: And no, no, I haven't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no I haven't either.

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Speaker 6: It's I was thinking of you, truck two Billy. Another

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Speaker 2: Yep? That passed, that passed, And I was.

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Speaker 4: Thinking of you.

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Speaker 6: Yesterday at that time. I bet she's happy about that.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not, very honestly, and I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we we don't stock large mouth. We don't

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Speaker 6: This, and they you're right, Billy, But you know, most

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Speaker 6: I don't need bass. I released everyone, and I caught

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Speaker 6: I let them go all the time. Good population of

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Speaker 6: I don't need it, even though some of the guys

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Speaker 6: which they say aren't man eating, but I'm sure they're okay.

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Speaker 6: But anyways, I don't I didn't think that season, that

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Speaker 6: should say fishermen, so I don't blame you little guys

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Speaker 6: that the young fisherman. I should say it'll be good learning.

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Speaker 2: And then but Tommy, I've gone down south often enough

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Speaker 2: And when I last time, I was down at a

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Speaker 2: a different conversation. It's how many did you get? What'd

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Speaker 2: you catch? And I haven't kept a bath since I

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Speaker 2: I ate up on Rady. We had to taste tests, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and we did, and people would say they always taste

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Speaker 2: money with ball mouth and cold water rival any walleye. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: very much, very much, And that's the last time.

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Speaker 6: We would keep the small mouth up a ber million, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: the three fours and fives goal, but we would keep

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Speaker 6: the smaller ones. And like you said, they are fan astecating.

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Speaker 6: And my brother Johnny always made fish chowder. Yeah, the

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Speaker 6: they come out of cold water. It's a different cold,

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Speaker 4: As you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a firm believer.

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Speaker 2: But the other thing, both of you guys, when when

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Speaker 2: the cleaned fish, right, garbage in the fish house. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's an unbelievable number the resorters when they come. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're going to keep everything they catch. And I don't

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Speaker 2: from my perspective of every resort I've stayed in, whether

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Speaker 2: and you know, if it's a twelve inch walleye or

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Speaker 6: Some people fish only once a year, and I don't

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Speaker 2: Begrudge anybody for any of it. Tommy, very honestly, Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: but it indicates the need to be mindful of it

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, you know what bugs me more near anything.

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Speaker 6: We're reading the new synopsis for the for the new

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Speaker 6: to rape our lake. And people think these fish live forever.

427
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 6: And if they only realize, if they only check things

428
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 6: out and go online, go to Google and ask how

429
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 6: long do panfish live, sunfish, crappies, pirch, walleyes, all of them,

430
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 6: they're going to realize that these fish only live six

431
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 6: to eight, maybe ten years, and after that they die

432
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 6: and that's you know, these fish are die of old age,

433
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 6: to tell you the truth.

434
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 4: And it just bugs me so much.

435
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 6: Let the people keep some fish. We used to keep point.

436
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 6: You know, many years ago, we had a limit of

437
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 6: fifty ten fish and we would keep it and we

438
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 6: had a big family, ten kids, and it was that

439
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 6: too much, and it was they started dropping it. Now

440
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 6: they they I think they totally screwed up Malax with

441
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 6: changing that limits from years ago. And I used to

442
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 6: fish a lot of walleye tournaments out there and we

443
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 6: did good. My brother Johnny and I was like third

444
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 6: place in a state walley tournament and since then it's

445
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 6: it's gone down downhill. Now everybody loves it because of

446
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 6: a small up and if you want to catch a

447
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 6: nice mollop, go to Malax. Now you will catch a

448
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 6: giant if you ought to put it on the wall.

449
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: Well, the other thing to Tommy, they've got to have

450
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: an opportunity a spawn. They've got to have the places

451
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: to spawn too, and that's getting fewer and fewer when

452
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: you get into some of the pan fish because there's

453
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: shallow water fish primarily for spawning.

454
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 6: Yes, you're right, but a lot of people fish fish

455
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 6: on the spawning guns Billy, which I don't recommend the golf.

456
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I know myself.

457
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 6: I'm not going to say I haven't. But you know,

458
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 6: that's how you can ruin the lake. And I know

459
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 6: one of the lakes I fished, pretty regular people would

460
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 6: go and it was a natural for his giant fish

461
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 6: to take some of these sponning fish and it basically

462
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 6: ruined this lake. So now you've got to wait three

463
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 6: four years for the speak, you know, for these fish

464
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 6: to come back.

465
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 7: But I don't know.

466
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: I just sometimes the agency who is charged with caring

467
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: for the resource needs to tell people what they can

468
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: and can't do, because there's those within a population that

469
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: don't adhere to any common sense and they're going to

470
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: take them. Yes, I've watched so many times. There are

471
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: older people in pontoons double and triple dip on the

472
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: crappy limits in the spring, and those are the same

473
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: people that are wrecking a resource too. But they got

474
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 2: it if it's illegal, and they're gonna get If they

475
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: do get caught, they're gonna get pinched and they can

476
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: lose their license. But a lot of the defenses, we

477
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: always do it this way.

478
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 6: And I hear your ability, that's exactly what I would Kaill.

479
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 6: You know some of my buddies, you know, the people

480
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 6: that live unlike like you said, they'll go out and

481
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 6: they're catch they're five and they'll come right back to

482
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 6: the cabin, or they'll do right in front of their cabin.

483
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 6: They'll catch fire fish to go take it up to

484
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 6: the cabin and they'll come back and catch five more. Well,

485
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 6: let's it. You know, they'll do this all day long,

486
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 6: especially when these fish are spotting. But it's I just

487
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 6: it drives me crazy, So I don't fish a lot

488
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 6: of Minnesota lakes up north for bandfish that is, while

489
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 6: I just a little different.

490
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 4: But I don't know.

491
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 6: I got my own reasons for some of that stuff.

492
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: Like technology is changing too, Tommy. Technology is changing an

493
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: awful lot. And yeah, you've got to keep that in mind.

494
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: And the fish are still in the same place, doing

495
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: the same thing in the same water. But there's not

496
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 2: as many places to hide any longer to get away

497
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: from things too. But we're going to have to go,

498
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: my friend, right. I appreciate your time, and I wish

499
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: you'd just stay on top of the ice ol. Okay,

500
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: I mean even stand top of the ice band.

501
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 4: But thanks, thanks you guys.

502
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: You have a great weekend, and you too, Tommy, Tommy

503
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: George from Angler Tommy George, and will take a pause,

504
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: be back with mister Joe Henry from the Lake oh

505
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: the Woods after this and forty two minutes after the

506
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: hour of six am, just before we uh bring mister

507
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: Joe Henry into the conversation. It wasn't too many years

508
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: ago that the carp in our lake, in our lake,

509
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: not well, the lake I happened to be on and

510
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: grew up on the water was real turbot, the weeds

511
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: were non existent. We've removed some what we haven't, The

512
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: Lake Association and folks have which ways I belong, have

513
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: removed a lot of carp, millions of pounds of carp

514
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 2: over time. The weeds are back, and the sunfish have returned.

515
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: They're back in the shallows there. They're back to the

516
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 2: point that my grandson Jack can stand on the dock

517
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: at the cabin and catch little sunfish that was not

518
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 2: existent before. It's all about the weeds in the lake.

519
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: And if you talk to Denny Fletcher, the big guy,

520
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: anybody will tell you those weeds, the bass are coming back,

521
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 2: the panfish are back, and they're fun. But it's just

522
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: took It took the weeds, and it took places for

523
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: It's no different than when we're talking pheasants and the

524
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: places for them to nest and places for them to live.

525
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: No different. Wildlife needs habitat fish, fish, wildlife, and we

526
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 2: just whatever. I don't want us to never forget that too.

527
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: Sometimes they get lost in some of the conversation, but

528
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: don't forget. I've had people at the Lake Shore Association

529
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: tell me that those weeds are they're no good. They

530
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: don't do anything all. We just want to be able

531
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: to go out in our pontoon and walk drive. I said, yeah,

532
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: do you want to drive around and have your your

533
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 2: old fashion or your drink or whatever is you toodle

534
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: around stare at Haun's houses. Come on, I'm done. I

535
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: might climb back up my platform again, but not right now.

536
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: It's welcome into the conversation. A friend of ours too,

537
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 2: mister Joe Henry from Lake of the Woods Tourism. Joe,

538
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: good morning, sir.

539
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 7: Hey, good morning, gentlemen. Habitat and for it.

540
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: Right, yes, sir, I mean God, Joe, you know too,

541
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 2: I mean habitat is everything.

542
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 7: A huge habitat and forage would say, you know, for

543
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 7: fishing both of those things right, because yes, obviously if

544
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 7: you have a lake with the right weed growth that

545
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 7: hasn't been harmed by carp in their case or whatever

546
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 7: you know. You know, they often say, if if a fishery,

547
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 7: if a laker river has a fish problem, oftentimes it

548
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 7: has a forge problem, and that forage is so important

549
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 7: for the whole wheel life to keep on rolling.

550
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 2: Well, and so forage needs habitat too.

551
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 6: I think it does.

552
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: They don't exist in a vacuum.

553
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 7: We don't. The other thing that means that needs habitat

554
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 7: are the young eier fish. I mean that that's where

555
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 7: they start their life. That's protection from predation. I mean

556
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 7: just a lot of things.

557
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's oxygen, it's it's so much and it feeds

558
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 2: so many and it's so shortsighted for people to get

559
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 2: up at a meeting and say, well, those awful weeds

560
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: we shoul they should be all gone. I just want

561
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: to live in a fish bowl and drive around.

562
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 7: And you know, it's amazing. You know, different perspectives on

563
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 7: things based on how persons raised and where they live

564
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 7: and what their their life activities are. Because you know,

565
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 7: you have some lakes that some of the lakeshore associations

566
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 7: are very adamant on treating the water with chemicals to

567
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,959
Speaker 7: get rid of those weeds. And there's actually behind the scenes,

568
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 7: there's different discussions going on about just kind of reviewing

569
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 7: the whole process of getting permits for that and who's

570
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 7: responsible for them, and I won't get into that, but yeah,

571
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 7: the topic you bring up to the very.

572
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 4: Important one it is.

573
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 2: And you know, they've sprayed some weeds in a part

574
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: of SoC lake where my cabin is. They sprayed some

575
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 2: weeds in the north end of it, and at this

576
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: meeting they told us, well, we use these tubes to

577
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: put it down near the bottom so it doesn't it

578
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: doesn't spread, and it only kills the bad weeds. Well

579
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: one as hogwash, it kills them all. Two, there's a

580
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: river coming into the lake. Do you think that all

581
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: that stuff you put down in about four or five

582
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 2: acres stays in four or five acres. Get real, man,

583
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: just get real. I just I'm getting my like, I

584
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: know a lake.

585
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 7: In the metro that it's a big enough lake that

586
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 7: some of the lake shore associations are actually like in

587
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 7: bays they have they have their own bays. It's kind

588
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 7: of like a lake shore association. And they've treated some

589
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 7: of those bays with weeds, the Lakeshore Association has. And

590
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 7: you'll go into that bay and not only there are

591
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 7: no weeds, felso, no fish.

592
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, nothing. I mean, it's just whatever. I can't

593
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: I can't emotionally, Joe, emotionally, I can't go down that

594
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: road yet. I'm just not quite tuned up for it.

595
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 2: I'm tuned up.

596
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 7: A little little bit of coffee couple donuts and just

597
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 7: gets yelled going, oh boy.

598
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be flying right off the handle here pretty quick.

599
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 7: I heard, I heard that you brought breads and donuts

600
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 7: into I did, I did.

601
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 2: Yes, very appreciated. They're very good. I'm glad. I'm glad.

602
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 2: They're well deserved too. Oh Okay, Lake of the Woods,

603
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: are they still on the ice? Joe?

604
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 7: We are?

605
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 6: You know?

606
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I have to I always have to,

607
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 7: you know, try to try to keep all the media

608
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 7: in line this time of year because the statement is,

609
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 7: you know, the fishing season's closed and fish houses have

610
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 7: to be off the ice period. I'm like, what about

611
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 7: the asterisks of border water with Canada. Yes, you know,

612
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 7: we we're the exception of Minnesota that people don't ever mention.

613
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 7: So then the mass population of people think I use

614
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 7: fishing is over. And the fact of the matter is,

615
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 7: you know, in Lake of the Woods, we have that

616
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 7: extended season because we're border water with Canada. So you know,

617
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 7: fish houses can be allowed out on the ice overnight

618
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 7: through March thirty first. The walleye season up there is

619
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 7: open through April fourteenth. The pike season never closes, perch

620
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 7: or open crappies are open eel pout tubbies. I mean

621
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 7: we're we're game on for another month, and we got

622
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 7: three feet ice.

623
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 6: Oh is that?

624
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 4: Huh?

625
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 7: Well, you know, you know, and it's funny too me

626
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 7: you think about this. I mean, you know, we're you know,

627
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 7: from the Twin Cities. We're about five and a half hours, so,

628
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 7: you know, five and a half hours Norris. You know,

629
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 7: now instead of being overnight, instead of being forty degrees

630
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 7: and melting, we're thirty still frozen.

631
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

632
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 7: Plus we got three feet ice plus a little bit

633
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 7: of snow on our ice, which that protects the ice

634
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 7: from the sun for a while. So we're you know,

635
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 7: so far. Anyway, we're in good shape. And you know,

636
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 7: I believe that we're going to you know, mother nature

637
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 7: is always in control, Billy. I mean, we're you know,

638
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 7: our ice guides and our resort just take the leave

639
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 7: from other nature. Things can change. But you know, March

640
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 7: is looking pretty good for ice fishing.

641
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 2: Well it's and it's the only game in town. I

642
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 2: mean that makes a big difference to Joe. Is that

643
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 2: a true is those are those explanations you have to

644
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: I'm guessing you have to use them every day, every

645
00:40:59,600 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: every year.

646
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, and you know,

647
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 7: even yeah, even when you're talking to Tommy earlier and

648
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 7: talking about how the fishing seas and the clothes fish

649
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 7: outs to have to be off, well, you don't. That's

650
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 7: how people here and they don't hear that. We'll wait

651
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 7: a second now. Except for border water up north, you

652
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 7: can still go to Lake the Woods fishing in Minnesota.

653
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 7: And and you know, I, of course, you know, I

654
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 7: fight for the resort community up there because you know,

655
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 7: it's important for them to be able to sustain the

656
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 7: resorts and the twenty two mile long ice roads they

657
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 7: have all in that lake. And somebody asked me recently.

658
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 7: They said, you know, we went for the Lake of

659
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 7: the Woods and man, it took us like an hour

660
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 7: to drive on the lake. And I said, you know,

661
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 7: when they're driving twenty two miles, I have a twenty

662
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 7: two mile long ice rod. Do you think they're doing

663
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 7: that because they want to use up more transmissions, more

664
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 7: water pumps, more snowflills, more labor, more gas. But the

665
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 7: reason they're doing it is because they're doing everything they can.

666
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 7: They put you on the best wallet fish and they

667
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 7: can so that you've come back next to you and

668
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 7: come to them, and and and you know, not everybody

669
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 7: is out that far, but a lot of our intros

670
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 7: are of really that far.

671
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: Now.

672
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 7: Of course, what they're doing is they're following those walleyes.

673
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 7: And the interesting thing is are those walleys moving around

674
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 7: because of forage or are they moving around because of

675
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 7: traffic on the ice? Probably a little bit of both.

676
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think you're right. I really do

677
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: with that. When don't the fish make a foray into

678
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: some of the spawning waters coming up, they will?

679
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, so first off, talking about pike, I mean,

680
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 7: you know, we've been getting a nice pike all year long.

681
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 7: People that target big pike, I mean they've been fishing

682
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 7: them all year and a gettam because pike don't stop eating.

683
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 7: They're eating machines. But boy, I'll say, in March, what

684
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 7: happens is those pikes then do they put the feedbag on.

685
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 7: They start getting congregated. They don't school, but they get

686
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 7: congregated in pre spawn areas. They're setting up out in

687
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 7: front of spawning areas, whether it's a bay with flowing water,

688
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 7: whether it's a shoreline with mud, and some vegetation or whatever.

689
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 7: But you know, it's a good time to catch big pike.

690
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 7: And you know, angus are going out with tip ups

691
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 7: and quick strike rigs and some use dead baits, some

692
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 7: use live suckers, and they're you know, the chance of

693
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 7: catching you know, big pike in Lake of the Woods,

694
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 7: a forty plus inch pike is very very high. We

695
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 7: got a lot of the mentor system. The other thing

696
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 7: is the walleye movement, and you know with walleys, you're right,

697
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 7: there is a movement of walleyes. Interesting thing is, you

698
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 7: know we always talk about the Rainey River because the

699
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 7: Rainy River. You know, we have that spring fish on

700
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 7: the Rainy where at the end of March, the Rainey

701
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 7: River will start popping open about thirty miles east of

702
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 7: birch Sorry of Badad, which is Birchdale, and that when

703
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 7: I starts opening up, boats will start dropping in. And

704
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 7: that was icy waters and jigging and catching those big walleys.

705
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 7: Those big females are coming from Lake of the Woods

706
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 7: and they're going up the Rainey River to spawn. And

707
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 7: we have that catch and release season all of spring

708
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 7: through April fourteenth. So everybody thinks of the Rainy River

709
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 7: for spawning, and that is a major spawning area.

710
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 4: In Lake of the Woods.

711
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 7: However, you know, with Lake of the Woods being the

712
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 7: sixth gray Lake, with Lake of the Woods having fourteen thousand,

713
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 7: five hundred and fifty two islands, we have over sixty

714
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 7: five thousand miles of shoreline. So with that being said,

715
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 7: we have a lot of spotting areas in the lake.

716
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 7: And it's not just the Rainy River, which which is

717
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 7: good because you know, if something would happen where those

718
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 7: walleyes would lay their eggs and the males would come

719
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 7: in and spawn and sorry, you know, fertilize them, and

720
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 7: we got those little baby walleyes and eggs, and all

721
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 7: of a sudden we get real cold weather and the

722
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 7: water goes colder and stay that way for a while

723
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 7: and we lose our entire spat on the Rainy River.

724
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 7: Thank goodness, we have sixty five thousand miles of shoreline

725
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 7: where there's different spawning activity going on every week for

726
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 7: quite a while. It adds sustainability to the success of spawning,

727
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 7: and I think it really helps.

728
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 4: To be honest with you, Well, there.

729
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 2: There must be some other tributaries or something that either

730
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 2: come in or go out of Lake of the Woods.

731
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 2: So are are there Do people chase fish on some

732
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: of these secondary areas.

733
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 7: Not, Yes and no, Yes and no. So the Rainy

734
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 7: River has that that you know, we talked about the

735
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 7: spring fishing on the Rainy you know when you talk

736
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 7: about like, okay, I'll say Bostic Bay, Zipple Bay, we

737
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 7: talk about the war Old River, and then there's other

738
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 7: rivers around, but you know, not as much. They'll go

739
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 7: up there and really fish more of your your pike.

740
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 7: You know, when when the when the ice, whether whether

741
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 7: the ice is getting late with tip ups or when

742
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,959
Speaker 7: the ice actually goes out there first before the lake

743
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 7: because there's current, they'll get in there and get some

744
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 7: of those big pike. But you know, normally they're not

745
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 7: back and they're chasing those walleyes as much. And I think,

746
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 7: you know, those walleyes they like that Driveley bottom for spawning.

747
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 7: And there's a lot of shoreline activity that I think

748
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 7: is happening as well as the Rainy River. And not

749
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 7: to say they don't spawn at some of those smaller tributaries,

750
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 7: but you know, those smaller rivers and things, I think

751
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 7: it's probably more geared towards Pike is my understanding, just

752
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 7: because of the softer bottoms and things interesting.

753
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: I guess I did did realize that one of the

754
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 2: other things that people don't talk about a whole lot.

755
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: Joe and our guest is Joe Henry from Lake of

756
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: the Woods tourism. Are the small mouth in Lake of

757
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 2: the Woods?

758
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 6: Are?

759
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 2: Is it known for smallies?

760
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 7: You all tell you something, you know, and I know

761
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 7: you love your best. You know, I'll tell you something

762
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 7: right now. There are so many freaking footballs in Lake

763
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 7: of the Woods. You wouldn't believe it. I mean, and

764
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 7: I talked about football's being big small mouth. It's unbelievable.

765
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 4: I mean.

766
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 7: Back in the day, back in the day when Rappla

767
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,479
Speaker 7: first introduced their scatter rap, you know, the rapless scatter

768
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 7: rap of that rounded billy, we did a little special

769
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 7: kind of a media event up there called the rap

770
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 7: Less scatter Rap Challenge where we kind of introduced it.

771
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 7: We had different anglers and the mantra was, you know,

772
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 7: I think was five five guys, uh, you know, three

773
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 7: days or one hundred miles, you know. And what we

774
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 7: did is we broke apart Lake of the Woods into

775
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 7: five different days. I guess and we had twenty miles

776
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 7: sections all the way from the Canadian side, all the

777
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 7: way down to the Rainy River into Bedad and all

778
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 7: we could use the scatter raps. And the first day

779
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 7: I fished amongst the islands up north with Mark Fisher

780
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 7: of Rappola, and we're we're we're just pitching shorelines, and

781
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 7: we went to some areas we'd never fished before, and

782
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 7: we had I think we had like ninety four fish

783
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 7: that day in the vast majority where my vast majority

784
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 7: we're small mouth, and we're pitching. We're just pitching the shorelines,

785
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 7: you know. So we're going to these islands and just

786
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 7: picking out rubble areas on points and and just fishy

787
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 7: looking areas, and and we were just pitching those. In

788
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 7: gold Elburn it's you know, golden that stained water lake

789
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 7: of the woods. That was the color. And but but

790
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 7: that's just one example. But no, we actually we actually

791
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 7: have some guides that target small mouth and they target

792
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 7: them on that self end and where there is some

793
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 7: different rock reefs on that self end, or in the

794
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 7: Rainy River for that matter. A lot of fish in

795
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 7: the Rainy River, but there are a lot of small

796
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 7: malls and and everybody's so walleye creates up at Lake

797
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 7: of the Woods, and that's that's what pays the bills, right,

798
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 7: But you know, the walleye capital of the world, and

799
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 7: and for good reason, I get it. But I'll tell

800
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 7: you for people that like small mall bass, a ton

801
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 7: of small mouth bass. When we're filming a show billy

802
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 7: and we were fishing structure and we fight up on

803
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 7: top of that structure, just checking it for to see

804
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 7: if those walleys are feeding up on top. Boy tell

805
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 7: you nine times out of ten, we'll walk a couple

806
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 7: of nice smallers up there. Huh. Interesting fishing them all

807
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 7: to yourself. So nobody talks about fishing fish and walleye tournaments.

808
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 7: I'd be pulling spinners, spinners and crawlers for walleyes, and

809
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 7: you'd be pulling on a you know, on the edge

810
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 7: of the rock or something, and you'd fit that hook

811
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 7: and you're like fish and that fish should be digging you,

812
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 7: and you'd be thinking it's a good walleye, and all

813
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 7: of a sudden, your line starts to rise and you're

814
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 7: like no, no, no, all the water blows. You're like no,

815
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 7: try to crank it in fast. As he couldn't get

816
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 7: it off and you know, get down to get a

817
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 7: walle But no, honestly, there are a ton of small

818
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 7: mouths in Lake of the Woods and it's really an

819
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 7: overlooked species.

820
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 4: I'll tell you.

821
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: I'll be dark. Joe, we have to take a pause.

822
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: Can you stay with us for another segment? I can't wonder.

823
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 2: Our guest is Joe Henry from Lake of the Woods Tourism.

824
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 2: Are you thinking about maybe taking a trip up there

825
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: and catching some small mouth I was thinking sturgeons. Oh,

826
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: we could talk sturgeon. Yeah, that's not too far off. No,

827
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 2: it isn't. I remember Eric would go up there when

828
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: he was in college. But they would go up there,

829
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: and have you done that? I never have. I never

830
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: have big fish. You have pictures of some giants. Giants.

831
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 2: We will take a pause and be back with more

832
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: with Joe after.

833
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 4: This human.

834
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: We're back. Yep. Panel Tours coming your way until the

835
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 2: eight o'clock hour. Bob Saint Pierre in studio, Brett and

836
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: Blake Moore our executive producers taking great care of us.

837
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: I well, I'm here and that's okay. Our guest is

838
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: mister Joe Henry of Lake of the Woods, tourism. We

839
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: were talking tourism. We're talking lots of different fishing and

840
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: the fact that walleye season is still alive, open and

841
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 2: very very well inviting you to come on up. Okay,

842
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: just come on up. I'm not telling you why. I'm

843
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: just saying I want to catch some fish. They got

844
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 2: three feet ice. How's that go again? Three feet eyes?

845
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 2: This is one of those things that happened. Yeah, I

846
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: have no idea what or why anyway, Joe. One of

847
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: the things we haven't talked about yet. Small moll first,

848
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: get me. But that's another thing. Sturgeon. Oh, that's gotta

849
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: be a who. That's pretty popular, isn't it.

850
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 7: It's amazing. It's amazing what's happened with the surgeon fishery.

851
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: You know.

852
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 7: So the Minnesota Dinar estimates sets for morse to Ontario,

853
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 7: which is just up in the Ontario set of lake

854
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 7: Woods down to the northwest angle the base of the

855
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 7: Lake of the Woods called Big Triver Spain it into

856
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 7: the Rainy River. The estimate that there's about one hundred

857
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 7: thousand sturgeon over forty inches long.

858
00:51:58,560 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: Huh.

859
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 7: You know, we have one of the best, or if

860
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 7: not the best surgeon populations in the Midwest, and it's

861
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 7: really become a niche for our fishing. And you know

862
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 7: there's people now that go up and you know, they

863
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 7: target surgeon, that's what they do. And you know there's

864
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,479
Speaker 7: a lot of like you know, when people get bit by.

865
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 6: The muskie bug, and they get bit by that musky bug.

866
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 7: And you know what I see is it's over wet.

867
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 7: Nothing else matters. Anything else is a bait fish now,

868
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 7: you know. And and well, you know, when you talk

869
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 7: about catching the biggest fish in the system, I hate

870
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 7: to tell those musky buddies the line, but you know,

871
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 7: it's a sturgeon. It's not the musky and sturgeon a

872
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 7: heck of a lot easier to catch. I mean, when

873
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 7: you go up in the spring of the year, it's

874
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 7: not really if you're going to catch sturgeon, it's how

875
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 7: many you're going to catch and how big are they?

876
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 7: Because those sturgeon have the feedbag on, you know, the

877
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 7: upcoming spawn and it's it's fun fishing. You know, we

878
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 7: have our sturgeenciason too. It's pretty prolonged. We have catching

879
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 7: release right now through April twenty thirty, so you can

880
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 7: go and just catch them and get a good picture

881
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 7: and put them back. And then from April twenty fourth

882
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 7: to me seventh, they call that the harvest season. If

883
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 7: you want to buy a sturgeon take for five dollars

884
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 7: in addition to your Minnesota fishing license, which by the way,

885
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 7: you have to have a new one starting March first, right,

886
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 7: But you know, if you want to get a five

887
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 7: dollars sturgeon take, then when you're there during the harvest season,

888
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 7: if you catch a sturgeon that's forty five to fifty

889
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 7: inches or over seventy five inches, you can keep it

890
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 7: one per calendar year, and sturgeon, you know, there's plenty

891
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 7: of sturgeon to keep. The nar keeps a very close

892
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 7: tally intact. When you get a sturgeon take, it's almost

893
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 7: like a deer take belly. You literally take your sturgeon,

894
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 7: and then you have to register it, you know, online,

895
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 7: it's like you would a deer within forty eight hours.

896
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 7: And they keep real close track of how many fish

897
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 7: are being harvested, and there's a it is such a

898
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 7: good healthy population in the lake that doesn't hurt him

899
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 7: a bit. But you know, have you ever had smoke sturge.

900
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 2: No, I was just going to ask you what people

901
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 2: do with them.

902
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, you know traditionally they smoke them. They make

903
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 7: them all different ways. But that meat is incredible. It's

904
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 7: a really really rich meat. It's just absolutely incredible. The one,

905
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 7: the one sturgeon I kept one time, I gave it

906
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 7: to a buddy of mine who worked at a meat

907
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 7: market because he said that, hey, I can bring it

908
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 7: to the meat martin market and get a smoked. So

909
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 7: I gave him my sturgeon to bring it home. And

910
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 7: I got to call it, your sturgeon's done, and you

911
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 7: better get home quick because and you pick this thing

912
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 7: up because we got it over another body's house. It's

913
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 7: about half gone. It was, but it was it was

914
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 7: really rich, rich, delicious meat. And you know, across the

915
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 7: board people I talked to, so there are people that

916
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 7: actually will go up there and want to They go

917
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 7: up there to try to catch one to bring home

918
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 7: and to eat it. And you know, again they really

919
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 7: enjoy them. But you know a lot of the fishings

920
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 7: just catch and release. But we go we go equal

921
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 7: twenty fourth to me a seventh as a harvest season,

922
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 7: and then May eighth to fifteenth is catching relie. And

923
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 7: then it closes May sixteenth to June thirtieth, and of

924
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 7: course that's for spotting activity. And then of course it

925
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 7: opens up July one again, almost all year long again

926
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 7: first yeah, into April.

927
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: Aren't they is about as close to prehistoric as any

928
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 2: critter we've got around.

929
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 7: They absolutely are. Yes, they are very much prehistoric. It's

930
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 7: really cool too. You know, when you catch a sturgeon,

931
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 7: they're a cool looking fish. They got if you catch

932
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 7: a small one, they have these things on their sides

933
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 7: and on top called scoots scu t s scoots, and

934
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 7: they're sharp. They protect those small sturgeon. You know, they're

935
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 7: built of armor. You almost got to be careful, you know,

936
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 7: cut yourself when you handle a small one. And then

937
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 7: what happens is is those fish aren't getting older, those

938
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 7: scoots they start getting less sharp. They kind of dull out,

939
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 7: but they're still a hard fish, and they're getting at

940
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 7: that point so big that naturally they're they're less susceptible

941
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 7: to predation. But they're just a very unique fish. You know,

942
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 7: they got that mouth on the very bottom of big

943
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 7: suckers that just you know, they eat stuff off the bottom.

944
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 7: And then they had that front nose. It's made up

945
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 7: like a bone or a cartilage, and that's what they

946
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 7: use the big stuff out of the mud, and it's

947
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 7: just a very unique fish. It's kind of cool because

948
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 7: if the three river would get if we'd have a

949
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 7: big rain and the river get muddy, you know, for

950
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 7: the sturgeon, doesn't matter because you know they're feeding on scent.

951
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 7: It's kind of neat that, you know, when you when

952
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 7: you target sturgeon, you'll use a sturgeon rig and what

953
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 7: that's made up of is like a flat no roll

954
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 7: sinker so it doesn't roll in the current. Usually have

955
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 7: three or four hourser depend upon the current to the river.

956
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 7: And then you use a sturgeon rig and that's about

957
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,240
Speaker 7: an eighteen inch liter made up of like sixty pounds

958
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 7: past and then you use like a number four, number

959
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 7: four and five circle hook and you know you'll load

960
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 7: that up with a few nightcrawlers. In some cases people

961
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 7: will put both bakes and frozen emerald shiners on there.

962
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 7: And you'll go into a hole of a river. A

963
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 7: lot of times you go on the upward slope of

964
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 7: a river, sorry up upward slope of the hole and

965
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 7: you'll pitch your you're offering out there, and let us

966
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 7: sit on the bottom and just sit back and relax

967
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 7: and watch that rod tip. And what happens is, you know,

968
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 7: that current is pushing that scent downstream and a lot

969
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 7: of those stringer will get they'll catch that scent and

970
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 7: they'll follow that baby all the way, you know, from

971
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 7: that hole. The thought as they're laying in those holes,

972
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 7: and then they when they feed, they swim up the hole,

973
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 7: up that up that bank to feed. But yeah, that's

974
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 7: in a nutshell. There's different strategies, of course. But and

975
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 7: then when they hit, you know, your rod tip is

976
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 7: this pink pink, pink pink gets not a vicious head

977
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 7: at all, even though it's a big fish. And then

978
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 7: what you do is because you have a circle hook,

979
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 7: it's a very conservation minded hook, you know, and circle

980
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 7: hooks are you don't set the hook on them. What

981
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 7: you do is you you just reel down fast, reel

982
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 7: down tight. And what happens is that circle hook is

983
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 7: down in their throat a little bit that'll slide out

984
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 7: and catch you in the lips. So it's very conservation minded.

985
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 7: The men of course to fight this on and you know,

986
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 7: encourage people to go sturgeon fishing to be prepared, you know,

987
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 7: have a big sturgeon net or have a tail lasso,

988
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 7: or have your camera ready, have your equipment ready to

989
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 7: get that fish out of the water, get a good

990
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 7: picture of it, and then get that fish back, you know,

991
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 7: and but have the ideally, you know you're gonna have

992
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 7: sturgeon tackles. You're going to have you know, heavier duty

993
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 7: your rives and reels. Heavy dude, you're lying, and of

994
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 7: course that's even better for the fish because you're you're

995
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 7: putting less stress on and you're not fighting as long.

996
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 7: Now if you're fishing wall is and you're hook into

997
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 7: a sturgeon, which happens all the time because anglos are

998
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 7: using a you know, frozen emerald shiner on a jig

999
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 7: and buncing them off the bottom. You know, sturgeon love

1000
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 7: those frozen emeralds shiners. But you see a lot of

1001
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 7: a lot of a lot of anglers help pull their

1002
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 7: anchor and they'll just follow those sturgeon around to try

1003
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 7: to stay on them. And you know, usually you got

1004
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 7: one hooked up for forty five minutes or an hour.

1005
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:55,479
Speaker 2: I heard that I can't imagine having a fish hooked

1006
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 2: up almost an.

1007
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 7: Hour or so well and Walley gear, you know, yeah,

1008
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 7: you will. And it's amazing the power. I mean, you

1009
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 7: would not believe the power these fish have. You try

1010
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 7: pulling them off the bottom. I mean it is like

1011
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 7: you are a snake to a boulder and then finally

1012
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 7: you think you're getting some headway and they run and

1013
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 7: then these fish at times will jump, I mean they'll

1014
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 7: come to this huge fish will come flying out of

1015
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 7: the water. I mean, it's just wild. There's a reason

1016
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 7: people are getting hooked on sturgeon fishing. Plus it's kind

1017
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 7: of cool too, because you know, you think about it.

1018
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 7: You're up on everything's melting, you know, it's nice spring weather,

1019
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 7: and and you're sitting out in the rainy river watching

1020
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 7: the migration come back, and it's just a fun atmosphere.

1021
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 7: People love it.

1022
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 2: Kat Captain, do you have a tail lasso in your boat? No,

1023
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go down that road for you. How often, yeah,

1024
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: thank you, said Joe that seventy five inchers in above

1025
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 2: our in part of a keeper size limit. How often

1026
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 2: are you catching fish that are that large?

1027
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 7: You know, honestly, that's a little bit of an anomaly,

1028
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 7: like we catch them. We do catch them, but that's

1029
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 7: a rare fish, you know, maybe like catch them a

1030
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 7: thirty three inch walleye, you know what I mean. Ye, yeah,

1031
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 7: so it is rare. You know, we're not getting them.

1032
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 7: But like this last year and the Sportsman's Lodge runs

1033
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 7: a sturgeon tournament each year, and this last year they

1034
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 7: caught what I believe was a state record. It was

1035
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 7: bigger than the current state record. I don't know if

1036
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 7: they measured it properly when they know you have to

1037
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 7: to get us catch and release state record, you have

1038
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 7: to measure length, you have to measure girth, you have

1039
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 7: to have you know, the photos taken the right way,

1040
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 7: you have to have a witness and just all you

1041
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 7: have to dot your eyes, cross your t's and I

1042
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 7: don't know if they had everything in place or not,

1043
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 7: but we have videos of it and it was definitely

1044
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 7: a state record sturgeon, you know, and we hear about

1045
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 7: I'm caught all the time, you know, and just people

1046
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 7: have fun fishing and they'll take a picture where they

1047
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 7: they have two people holding the sturgeon. And I have

1048
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 7: a friend of mine who he's not real tall and

1049
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 7: what I get around with them, because when they know

1050
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 7: they've gotten a big sturgeon is when they'll lay him

1051
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 7: down on the back of the boat and put the sturgeon.

1052
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 4: Under here, and I'm not going to say who he is.

1053
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 7: A lot of times what happens, I'll get a I'll

1054
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 7: get a text, and I'll get a text with him

1055
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 7: lay next to a huge sturgeon and he'll stay in there,

1056
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 7: don't say a word.

1057
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 2: So that's funny. Well, on that note, I'm going to

1058
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,959
Speaker 2: have to say goodbye, my friend. That's a great note

1059
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 2: to buy on. Thank you, buddy. I appreciate it.

1060
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 7: You guys, I appreciate it too. I have a wonderful season,

1061
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 7: and thank you very much.

1062
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 2: You're very welcome. Joe Henry. Boy, did he do a

1063
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 2: great job explaining the enthusiasm around sturgeon fish. Yeah, I

1064
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 2: want to go. I know that that would I know

1065
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 2: his friend that's laying laying in the boat. Seventy eight

1066
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 2: point two five inches Is that potential state record that

1067
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: was caught last year at the annual Sturgeon Tournament on

1068
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 2: link of the woods? Wow, seventy eight point twenty five cap? Well,

1069
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 2: how tall are you in inches? I'm taller than that.

1070
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be the guy laying next to it. In Ireland,

1071
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 2: I had a vision. I can just imagine. You keep

1072
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 2: your visions to yourself. I'll tell you pause and be

1073
01:02:47,560 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 2: right back with mister Paul Hartman after this seven twenty

1074
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 2: one minutes after the hour of seven o'clock fan outdoors

1075
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 2: Saturday coming your way. I think we have got our

1076
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 2: next guest, and it is The delay is totally my fault.

1077
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 2: Do you transpose them numbers again? No, I just gave

1078
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 2: him a wrong number. Oh, the wrong number. Wrong. I'm

1079
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 2: totally wrong number. Okay, he's not there. I know he's not.

1080
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 2: So who did you? Who did Brett call? I call

1081
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 2: this homeful? Oh, that one's dead, so you can delete

1082
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 2: that one from the I'll do that. I will do that.

1083
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 2: I thought I was waking up Pam and Cloquet. Paul,

1084
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 2: are you there?

1085
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 4: I am.

1086
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1087
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 4: The landlines died about twenty years ago. I got rid

1088
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 4: of that number.

1089
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 2: I must have you number five behind your number for

1090
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 2: a long time. Buddy.

1091
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 4: Ah, that's fun. No cell phones, you can't lose your number,

1092
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 4: but the home phones those are kind of a relic.

1093
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 2: YEP. Mine has gone to the way of the Dodo

1094
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 2: bird too.

1095
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was fun hearing you guys talk about

1096
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 4: the surgeon. So that's kind of been the back buzz

1097
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 4: at the Musky Expo this weekend to so many of

1098
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 4: these guys. You know, they're into the sturgeon thing. That's

1099
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 4: the way they start off putting a big bend in

1100
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 4: a heavy rod is getting up there to the rainy

1101
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 4: river and just catching those monsters.

1102
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 2: Well, talk about a bend pall. I mean it should

1103
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I mean, I should be a steel

1104
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 2: gird or.

1105
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 4: Nothing in Minnesota can pull like a surgeon. Muskies they

1106
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 4: fight great, but it's a two minute fight, a lot

1107
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 4: of splash and a lot of excitement, a lot of adrenaline.

1108
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 4: The surgeon are just back. They can fact, they can

1109
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 4: grind of a fight. I mean, they're just a dinosaur

1110
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 4: that pulls.

1111
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 2: Huh. Okay, you mentioned the Musky Expole taking place. Tell

1112
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 2: us a little bit about it, buddy. Yeah.

1113
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 4: This year, so they were redoing the state bairgrounds over

1114
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 4: at th Warner Calcium. We switched locations this year. We're

1115
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 4: down at Canterbury. Got two big hauls down there filled

1116
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 4: with the most musky fishing tacklers ever been under one

1117
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 4: roof before, great look and displays. One of the halls

1118
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 4: we have Thorn Brothers and Team Rhino is kind of

1119
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 4: our anchor retailers with a bunch of the big manufacturers,

1120
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 4: Musky Addicts and Been. Over in the other hall we

1121
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 4: have the Big Three, Musky, Mayhem, Musky Innovation, Chaos Tackle,

1122
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 4: a lot of custom bait makers there and then we

1123
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 4: got the guides, the resorts, the fishing clubs, so big variety.

1124
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 6: You know.

1125
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 4: For the sixth year in the row where incorporated the

1126
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 4: Minnesota Angler Boats Show is part of it, so got

1127
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 4: a great selection. Ranger Boats as the show sponsors, so

1128
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 4: they do a big showing there. But Nelson's Marine is

1129
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 4: there with a bunch of great aluminums, and Recon is

1130
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 4: there with some other fiberglass boats too, So great variety.

1131
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 4: If you're in the market, come down. They got the

1132
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 4: best prices ever right now.

1133
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 2: And with that, are those really expensive lures that I

1134
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 2: wouldn't take close to the lake? Are they available again?

1135
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 4: We had one guy who came from British Club yesterday,

1136
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 4: Big Action Bates. He brought a hundred with I don't

1137
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 4: believe he had one for a hunder one hundred dollars.

1138
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 4: Last night he ran out with two ninety eight are gone.

1139
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,439
Speaker 4: He's got two left to get him through the next

1140
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 4: two days at the show true Glide Lewer's I think

1141
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 4: he still got about half of his left. And I

1142
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 4: mean they are that's the granddaddy of all of them.

1143
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 4: That's the one. Everybody's coming from Chicago, you know, from

1144
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 4: down in thebuke, and it's like these guys are in

1145
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 4: line the show up and yesterday at one o'clock we

1146
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 4: had guys from Illinois there at nine ten in the

1147
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 4: morning waiting in line to get in the show because

1148
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 4: they didn't want to miss out on the color they

1149
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 4: wanted come on. Honestly, that's what a muskie attic sounds like.

1150
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 4: That was, that's amazing. I did a post on Facebook,

1151
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 4: I said, the line has begun now and within twenty minutes,

1152
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 4: it's like cars are coming in the parking lot like

1153
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 4: there's a fire sale. So it was goes pretty cool

1154
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 4: to see. I mean, that's the excitement level when you

1155
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 4: coop up someone that's crazy about fishing like that for

1156
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 4: five months and then you tell them we got some gems.

1157
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 4: You want to be here, These.

1158
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 2: Guys come out and you're one of those muskie addicts.

1159
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 2: Is there something that you've purchased so far that you're

1160
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 2: pretty excited about.

1161
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 4: My wife could be listening, so probably not, but we

1162
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 4: could talk afterwards, and yeah, I'll give you my shots.

1163
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 4: And I'm actually going in early here visiting with a

1164
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 4: few more vendors. Are too busy to talk yesterday. So yeah,

1165
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 4: every year they have a swamp meet tonight at one

1166
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 4: of the I think it's muddy cow people sell baits,

1167
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 4: so I'll sell off a bunch of baits there, but

1168
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 4: inevitably it always ends up being I need another tackle box,

1169
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 4: even though I sold stuff, so I don't know how

1170
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 4: the numbers work, but yeah, kind of it sits to you,

1171
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 4: and you know, you're always excited for the new stuff.

1172
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,600
Speaker 4: Musky fishing is a challenge, so if you think you

1173
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 4: can cheat a little bit with a lure, they haven't

1174
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 4: seen the color. They haven't seen. That's I'm the guy

1175
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 4: who gets sucked in more than anybody. So it's it's

1176
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 4: a comical sad State of Affairs product.

1177
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 2: You know. I subscribe a little bit to that, but

1178
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 2: not totally yet. I just the fact the onlier I

1179
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 2: get the more I kind of lean on some of

1180
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 2: the things that are are old that I know I've got,

1181
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 2: but nobody else is not. Very many other people have got.

1182
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 2: What was the original musky lure?

1183
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 4: Can you you know, I think that they came into it.

1184
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 4: It hasn't changed that much. I mean, it was the

1185
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:37,480
Speaker 4: old mud puppy style pop waters. There's twenty the variations

1186
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 4: of the same thing. You know, it was the old

1187
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 4: sluger type spinners, the same thing. There's all these variations

1188
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 4: of that. Yeah, the mental baits. I mean, way before Rappolo,

1189
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 4: they were making you know, suferino style baits and all

1190
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 4: sorts of lift mental baits. And I mean we've just

1191
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 4: made flashier, fancier versions of the same stuff that was

1192
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 4: out there a years ago. And and you know, obviously

1193
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 4: it's you know, a lot more durable, a lot more

1194
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 4: well built. We're using tackling, and the reels we're using

1195
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 4: you can catch a marlin and you can catch a

1196
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 4: turbo with the reels guys using for musky. But it's

1197
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,799
Speaker 4: the lures. You know, there's thing a one pound bulldog,

1198
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 4: so your weakest link is throwing that lure thousands of

1199
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 4: times over and over and ripping it and pulling it

1200
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 4: and the musky. You hook the musky and you know,

1201
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 4: he just pulls. It's you know, a small musky sometimes

1202
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 4: easier getting in than one of the big crank bats

1203
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 4: were using in the fall. I mean, it's it's amazing

1204
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 4: how how big some of this tackles topped out at.

1205
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 4: But if you just said there's going to be five

1206
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 4: hundred dollars reels and five hundred dollars rods twenty years ago,

1207
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 4: halfway through the show's history, everyone would have laughed. And

1208
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 4: then when the Cowgirl came out, it's two big blades

1209
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 4: on a tinsel bucktail and that started chewing up equipment.

1210
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 4: It was just so intensive to use them. And you know,

1211
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 4: all the manufacturers, Shimano, Edgar, si Adoa, they all stepped

1212
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 4: up and just made next level equipment. And now that's

1213
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 4: carried over. The Salt Water market swooped in and took

1214
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 4: all the stuff that was designed for Musky, and yeah,

1215
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 4: it's been a really cool evolution to see. We do

1216
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 4: have an anti gloor guy down there doing appraisals. He's

1217
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 4: got forty foot of space and it's amazing when you

1218
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 4: walk through this display, how much of it is just

1219
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 4: a smaller version that's on the shelf and the booth

1220
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 4: right next to it that's touted as the new and

1221
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 4: you know, hot bait, and so we kind of recycling

1222
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 4: old ideas well.

1223
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 2: That's kind of the A lot of it goes that

1224
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 2: way to Paul, A lot of the tackle manufacturers, or

1225
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 2: somebody knocks it off or or something like that. It's

1226
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 2: pretty I knew a guy who named a cal Standish

1227
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 2: years ago who had made he manufactured bass tackle. But

1228
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 2: it didn't take long and he's worked real hard to

1229
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,560
Speaker 2: keep it his only. But he had attorneys working on it,

1230
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 2: and people are not always companies were always knocking it all.

1231
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 4: Yes, George Waller who originally made the show up and

1232
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 4: he also made the eagle tail for all the years,

1233
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 4: and he went to get that and patented, and essentially

1234
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 4: the attorney he had said, if they add one more bead,

1235
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 4: if they use one sized smaller hook or one sized

1236
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 4: bigger hook, one size smaller bigger blade, they can copy

1237
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 4: your bait. It looks the same on the shelf, and

1238
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 4: your patent doesn't protect it unless you want to start

1239
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 4: filing multiple patents that affect any little variation you just

1240
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 4: you can't stay ahead of it. And the cool part

1241
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 4: about the musky industry is they're kind of loyal to

1242
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 4: a brand. And also if they got a big fish

1243
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 4: on a bullball of you know, a big jerk bait

1244
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 4: rubber plastic, they're not going to buy an imitation if

1245
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 4: it's half the price and exactly the same. They're they

1246
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 4: just that the one they caught it on, and that's

1247
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 4: the one they're buying for the rest of their life.

1248
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 2: So interesting, it doesn't leave a lot of room.

1249
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 4: To do direct knockoffs just because everybody loves the stuff

1250
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 4: that was the original.

1251
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 2: Well maybe the originals or the knockoff could be even

1252
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 2: better if it's just tweaking a little bit.

1253
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and they just but for the most part,

1254
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 4: they never get wings. You know. Also the original ones

1255
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 4: who started building, you know, whatever the style of bates

1256
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 4: are in the industry, those are the ones that have

1257
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 4: double or triple or four boosts on at the show

1258
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 4: because their following just continues to grow. And you know,

1259
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 4: I think it's the mentality if it's not broke, don't

1260
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 4: fix it. So it's hard to invent a better wheel

1261
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 4: when no one will give your wheel a try.

1262
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 2: That's true. That's true. You don't know if it rolls,

1263
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 2: if it's yeah, only got three wheels all the line.

1264
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well we have a great seminar. Yeah,

1265
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 4: today we have a great seminar lineup. Door open at

1266
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 4: ten o'clockward they're till six thirty. We have Kevin Cochran

1267
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 4: talking technology versus Muskies. That's kind of been the hot

1268
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 4: topic with facing sonar and just how much the electronic

1269
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 4: industries have evolved over the past five years. Greg Thomas

1270
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 4: does a great one. He's doing Muskie movement and strategy.

1271
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 4: Steve Herbeck at two thirty. He's the legend. He had

1272
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 4: Andy Meyer's Lodge for thirty years and still guides up there.

1273
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 4: But he's got just very innovative ways of approaching fish

1274
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 4: up on the Canadian Shield and over he's guided in

1275
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 4: Green Bay in Wisconsin's he kind of brings a little

1276
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:42,640
Speaker 4: bit of everything to the table. And we'll wrapping it

1277
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 4: up with Chase Gibson. He's got a ten thousand casts

1278
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 4: Mayhem podcast that he does and video series and he

1279
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 4: does a phenomenal job. He's one of the new up

1280
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 4: and comers that just makes me scratch my head. I mean,

1281
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 4: he's pulling fish at twice thre eight. I am doing

1282
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 4: the exact same thing, and you keep trying to like

1283
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 4: spot what is the little difference he's doing. I think

1284
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 4: he's beating me with time on the water. I have

1285
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 4: to make myself feel good and say it.

1286
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 2: Paul Hartman is our guest right now, and he has

1287
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 2: a show down at Canterbury Park Expo Center this weekend

1288
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 2: today and tomorrow called George's Minnesota Meski Expo. And it's

1289
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 2: down there and we're talking about the Musky Expo and

1290
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 2: sounds like the crazy people are there the shots Captain

1291
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,799
Speaker 2: Paul's well, go ahead.

1292
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 4: Oh, it could be considered an obsessive group, you know. Yeah,

1293
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 4: but voted give him credit.

1294
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a Train's the what's the state of the

1295
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:08,759
Speaker 2: stake for muskies right now? You know, with forward facing sonar,

1296
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 2: with a number of anglers, how are things looking for

1297
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 2: the population?

1298
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 4: I think that it kind of was a bubble about

1299
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 4: ten years ago or fifteen years ago where everything ke

1300
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 4: Minnesota had so many big fish and just a ton

1301
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 4: of nice size fish, but we noticed there wasn't a

1302
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 4: lot coming up behind. Now the DNR is stuffed up

1303
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 4: their games so like it Vermilion, there's a lot of

1304
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 4: thirty six to forty two inches and still some of

1305
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 4: those giants, but a lot of the lakes are kind

1306
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 4: of in that rebuilding stage where there's you know, Minnetonka, Waconia.

1307
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 4: You're starting to see a lot of these, you know,

1308
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 4: fun sized fish to catch the bath angler size, you

1309
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 4: know where you accidentally get one on a spinner bait

1310
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 4: or a chatter bait or something. A lot of those

1311
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 4: thirty six to forty two's that are coming into the system,

1312
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 4: and we didn't see that for a long time, so

1313
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 4: it's exciting to see that, and that's starting to bring

1314
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 4: some new people in. We are not seeing the angling

1315
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 4: pressure of the past five years because you don't see

1316
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 4: as many follows, you aren't encountering as many big fish.

1317
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 4: So I'm going to say it's down by a third

1318
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 4: from what I used to see, especially the big one,

1319
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 4: you know, Malas is way way down. I'll go out

1320
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 4: there and I'll fish for an entire day and see

1321
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 4: one other boat on a Saturday, where fifteen years ago

1322
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 4: I would see a hundred boats. I mean it was

1323
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 4: a zoo. And now you go out there, so you're

1324
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 4: fishing for a much smaller number. But when you get

1325
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 4: them in the window opens up and they're biting. You

1326
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 4: can hook six fish in two hours. So the fishing

1327
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 4: can be phenomenal, but you're you know, you just don't

1328
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 4: have the number of encounters in a day. But I mean,

1329
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 4: it's a lot of new people starting to come into

1330
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 4: the sport again. With all these smaller fish, we're getting

1331
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 4: more of the bass angler conversion again, so that whole

1332
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 4: cycle is kind of starting again after twenty five years,

1333
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,719
Speaker 4: where I think it's like the old guys are still

1334
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 4: doing the same stuff, but a lot of these new

1335
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 4: guys are starting off, you know, almost doing like heavy

1336
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 4: duty bass fishing for him and having a lot of success.

1337
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 2: So what about the lakes all that well that had

1338
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 2: the hybrids that had tiger tigre mi muskies in a

1339
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 2: stock dential, There used to be.

1340
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 4: Twenty eight around the cities, and they kept you know,

1341
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 4: cutting it back, cutting it back. I believe now there's

1342
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 4: ten of them that are being stocked and still great fishing.

1343
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 4: But there again, we don't see the number of people.

1344
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 4: I'm out on Nikomas twenty years ago, there'd be six

1345
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 4: boats on a Saturday on a trolling motor only lake. Now,

1346
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 4: if I'm out there and there's another boat fishing on

1347
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 4: the lake, I'm like, where, how did this.

1348
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 2: Guy hear about the lake?

1349
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 4: You know, but it's you know, the lake's been there,

1350
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 4: it's been good for thirty five years. I think they

1351
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 4: started that program in eighty four and by ninety two,

1352
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 4: you know, there was giants coming out of all these

1353
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 4: tiger lakes, and so for me, that was the sad

1354
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 4: one to see some of those smaller lakes get cut

1355
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 4: from the program. I just don't think that they did

1356
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 4: it as a put and take where it was supposed

1357
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 4: to be a harvest fishery, and they had some shore

1358
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,719
Speaker 4: fishermen on the metro, you know, like the inner City lakes,

1359
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 4: but the other lakes, I don't think that people really

1360
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 4: targeted them. So I think they just kept trimming that

1361
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 4: one back and then putting a few more into the

1362
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:24,520
Speaker 4: lakes they were still maintaining.

1363
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 2: Okay. I was curious though, the world record muskie lives

1364
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 2: in what Lake Paul.

1365
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 4: A lot of people are saying Lake Malac. Still there's

1366
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 4: there's not the numbers, but state record kept fish was

1367
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 4: out of there five years ago. State record release fish

1368
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 4: was out of there by length I think four years ago.

1369
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 4: World record release was caught out of there the November

1370
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 4: before last. Nolan Springler on two of those three. He

1371
01:19:56,680 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 4: was the guide on that or the angler and he's

1372
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 4: dialed in and just man, he is on some big,

1373
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 4: big fish. And there's some other guys out there too

1374
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 4: that have seen ones that say potentially, you know, they've

1375
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 4: seen fish that they just say are way beyond what

1376
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 4: they've caught. And Green Bay, I think there's whisperings of

1377
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 4: that of you know, fish of that proportion, and I

1378
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 4: spent you know, I think I have about one hundred

1379
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 4: and fifty years in Canada over the past thirty five years.

1380
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 4: I think I'm going to catch the world record literally

1381
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 4: all of those lakes. When you go there, there's stories

1382
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 4: that people seeing fish and you know right away they say, well,

1383
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 4: it's half the size of my boat, and you know,

1384
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 4: they're in a sixteen foot ones and they're telling you

1385
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 4: they saw an eight foot and it's like, well, I

1386
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,680
Speaker 4: don't know if there's that big, but musty fish have

1387
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 4: been known to embellish.

1388
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 2: So yeah, I was thinking the same like Stage and fishermen,

1389
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 2: Paul give us the specifics about the event now again

1390
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 2: please for us.

1391
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 4: So it's this weekend. Bring the kids. We have the

1392
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 4: trout pond there set up by Fishing for Life. They

1393
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 4: got the archery range, bb gun range. We have four

1394
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 4: lure making stations. Kids can take home fifty dollars worth

1395
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 4: of tackle, so make sure and bring them their free.

1396
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 4: But we're open today Stone at Canterbury a new location,

1397
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 4: two great halls in there. Ten to six thirty today

1398
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 4: and then ten to four tomorrow. And like I said,

1399
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 4: kids are free twelve dollars mission and you'll be amazed.

1400
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 4: It's the most musty tack led under a roof before,

1401
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 4: so it's great showing.

1402
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 2: Paul. I wish you success today and may a couple

1403
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,600
Speaker 2: of those baits still be there for you and you

1404
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 2: can post some place nobody will find them except you.

1405
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 4: Thank you. That's the best wish of the day. I

1406
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 4: appreciate it so much.

1407
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 2: That's Paul Hartman, Minnesota Musky Expo, Georgie's Minnesota Musky Expot,

1408
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 2: and Bob Saint Pierre. He'll be down there to lot

1409
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 2: I will. He'll be down there looking for sturgeon. I'll

1410
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 2: be sided pink and white jigs there you go. We'll

1411
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 2: take our final pause in the morning and be right

1412
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 2: back after this before we run out of time. There's

1413
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 2: you know I mentioned earlier in the program that I

1414
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 2: got my fishing license, actually my my sportsman's license, so

1415
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:38,640
Speaker 2: a small game license and fishing in a combination. I

1416
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 2: figured you had a lifetime No, no, my grandkids all

1417
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 2: do you okay? So I know you've bought a number

1418
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 2: of lifetime yes. Yes, And Eric was trying to tell me,

1419
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,759
Speaker 2: you know, as your age now you could get a lifetime.

1420
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 2: You'd make money on that. So now just fifty eight dollars.

1421
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 2: That's fine. Now to do that once a year, keep

1422
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 2: paying your wage. So that's it's all good. But doing

1423
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 2: it online you need to be very precise. If it

1424
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 2: wants to propagate one of the boxes that you're filling in,

1425
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 2: type it in yourself propagate or populate, populate, propagate whatever

1426
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 2: it put types it in for you. Okay, well you

1427
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 2: got to type it in yourself. I learned that the

1428
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 2: hard way because I was really frustrated. My name popped

1429
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 2: up and I was just okay, it fills it all in,

1430
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 2: but it didn't work. So be sure you type it

1431
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:42,759
Speaker 2: in yourself. Try having a last name like Saint Pierre

1432
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 2: with a period in space. They that's a frustration.

1433
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 4: God.

1434
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, in some states allow periods and some don't. Just

1435
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 3: a pain in the butt to buy licenses. Yeah, I

1436
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 3: don't have that problem. I'm just a minister, You're just

1437
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:06,919
Speaker 3: a hilde Brand. I'm just one word, one word, William,

1438
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 3: William or Billy. It depends where I am and what's

1439
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 3: going on. But you know, I used to when I

1440
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 3: was in high school, people kept calling me Bob. I

1441
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 3: have no idea why Bob. Somebody called you Bob. Yeah,

1442
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 3: when your name's Billy whatever, I mean, it just huh.

1443
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 2: I have no idea why. But anyway, they thought you

1444
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 2: were cool. No, I don't know about that. I do

1445
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 2: know about that. No, But anyway, it just be careful

1446
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 2: and don't be frustrated. And again, what I do is

1447
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 2: I get a paper copy, and then when I'm at

1448
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 2: the bait shop, I spend an extra buck and a

1449
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 2: half two bucks and get up the plastic copy of it.

1450
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 2: Then I don't want to not have a license, And

1451
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 2: I go to some of the guests or whatever, say

1452
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 2: they have licenses, and whoever's behind the column, they don't

1453
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 2: want to deal with you. They don't know how to

1454
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:09,600
Speaker 2: do it, and it's just a real exercise and frustration

1455
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 2: for both of them. And Meat Joe Sporting Goods does

1456
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 2: a good job of Yeah, I sure they do. Yeah,

1457
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 2: that's kind of their business so too. Yeah, good people

1458
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 2: over there, good customer service. Are you going to be

1459
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:26,759
Speaker 2: out raking ther yard today? I'm hoping that it snows

1460
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 2: before I get guilted into that.

1461
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 3: You should really have that taken care of it. It

1462
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 3: looks like I should have that taken care of. I'm

1463
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 3: hoping it's snows that I would jump in the sauna.

1464
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 3: The sauna, the salana. Do you use that quite a bit?

1465
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 4: I do?

1466
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 2: I love that good.

1467
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 3: That was a little bit of a splurge a few

1468
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 3: years ago, but it was money well spent.

1469
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 2: You roll around in the snow when you got jeez, well,

1470
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 2: I've just had my grandkids wherever they were. There's somebody's

1471
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 2: house that had a hot tub, and they were in

1472
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 2: the hot tub over the Super Bowl, and they were

1473
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 2: in the hot tub. They hop out and they go

1474
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 2: roll around in the snow, and then they come back

1475
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 2: and jump right in the hot tub. And they just

1476
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 2: thought that was the best fun.

1477
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 3: If you like to come over into the sauna. You

1478
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,560
Speaker 3: can't sauna. Ye, see it correctly, and I'll let you

1479
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 3: roll around in the snow. I think there's a lot

1480
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 3: of hard snow out there. I'd probably knocked myself all.

1481
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:28,679
Speaker 2: Again. I am yeah again. Huh how is that head

1482
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 2: of years? I'm still there. Yeah. I did go to

1483
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 2: the dock and talk to him about potential issues related

1484
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 2: to the falling or just in general, just in general. Okay,

1485
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 2: my family has been after me what the doctors said.

1486
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 2: He said, you're fine, don't worry about it. You're good.

1487
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 2: That's good to hear. Yeah. Yeah, he says, don't do

1488
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 2: it again though. Yeah, yeah, you just that that was

1489
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 2: a bad deal. You're gonna have to start wearing cleats

1490
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 2: on your shoes. I'm not wearing a helmet. Helmet, that'd

1491
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 2: be fun. So you come into radio at five point

1492
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 2: thirty in the morning wearing a helmet. I used to

1493
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 2: wear a stars and stripes helmet when you're an easy

1494
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 2: rider one, when you had a motorcycle. Yeah, when I

1495
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 2: had a chopper and you had a mustache, I did,

1496
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 2: and I'd wear a bandanna. I think you should have

1497
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 2: a mustache again. It's snow white buddy. That's okay. It's

1498
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 2: just like sand I could be Santa Claus. I looked

1499
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 2: at picture Colonel Sanders. Yeah, when I had and I

1500
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 2: did wear a beard, uh huh. And it gets to

1501
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 2: a certain point and I can't stand it anymore. The beard. Yeah,

1502
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 2: it's got to come off. But yeah, I mean usually

1503
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 2: I wouldn't I have had it. It's been in the

1504
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:51,600
Speaker 2: fall leading up the fall, so I didn't have to

1505
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 2: worry about shaving and stuff, and i'd look homeless anyway.

1506
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 2: So that was all Righting to Debbie. Yeah, speaking of which,

1507
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 2: you you a public apology to Meredith. Why is that

1508
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 2: because you wished I love you at Valentine's Day before

1509
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 2: before she got a chance to hear such a sweet guy,

1510
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 2: I'll do like I love you. That got a good giggle.

1511
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure it did. I got chestis when I called

1512
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 2: your host. But so, now has everything cooled off or

1513
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 2: pesis forever? After the fessor Fest? It has it? Has

1514
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 2: it calmed down?

1515
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1516
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 2: We it's amazing that convention hall. Hey, you know, one

1517
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 2: hour after that show ended on Sunday, it was virtually empty,

1518
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 2: you know, people traveling out points of the compass but yeah,

1519
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 2: things things went exceedingly well. You know, we had a

1520
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 2: tremendous event, and yeah it calmed down this week. I

1521
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:02,719
Speaker 2: remember last nights of the Northwest Sports Show at time

1522
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 2: years ago. You get once the last night had come

1523
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 2: and people had left those boosts, they don't take them

1524
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 2: long take no, no, not long at all. Yeah, it

1525
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 2: was it was a fun time. It was. We had

1526
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 2: a really great event from the concert to fundraising. Dennis

1527
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 2: Anderson was a keynote on Saturday night and he did

1528
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 2: a absolutely terrific job. Just had had got a standing

1529
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 2: ovation at the end of his talk. He was terrific, good, excellent.

1530
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 2: And did you walk the floor at all looking at things?

1531
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:47,560
Speaker 2: I did, looking for someone and just trying to find you.

1532
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 2: Most of the time I did walk the floor. I

1533
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 2: bought a couple of things, nothing major I did. I

1534
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 2: have my eyes on a weather b side by side

1535
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 2: that is not excessively priced. It's like twelve hundred dollars

1536
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 2: really really nice little shotgun.

1537
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 3: So twenty gauge will they come in four, ten, twenty eight,

1538
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 3: twenty and twelve only.

1539
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 2: I have a couple of twenty gauges, so it's hard

1540
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 2: to say. When you bring the wrong bullets. Well, yeah,

1541
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 2: have had that the twenty eight and the twelve mixed

1542
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 2: up before with the red. They should just make a

1543
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 2: different color for twenty eight. Yeah. Yeah, just get a

1544
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 2: magic marker and clo over. There we go, There we go.

1545
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 2: Music is playing, which means that we're going to turn

1546
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:41,600
Speaker 2: everything over to Tucker and Sinecon, who is back in

1547
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 2: the other room, ready to jump out here and talk

1548
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 2: to you about all kinds of busketball basketball conversation. Yes, yes,

1549
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 2: what I would say. Thank you to Tommy George for

1550
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 2: joining us, to mister Joe Henry from the Lake of

1551
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:01,639
Speaker 2: the Woods Tourism, and Paul Hartman for joining us. Thank

1552
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 2: you for allowing bye Bye and our executive producer Brett

1553
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:08,639
Speaker 2: Blakemore to travel with you. For each of those gentlemen,

1554
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 2: I will wish you a great weekend and to say

1555
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:12,759
Speaker 2: Tata