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Speaker 4: Then Leaverer's over there, Farkers still there, Thomas as well,
Speaker 4: cast a thousands as we talk a lot of football
Speaker 4: today and of course you can do the news real quick.
Speaker 4: But Carson Wentz spoke to the gathered throng yesterday about
Speaker 4: why he didn't pull himself out.
Speaker 3: Of the game. They're in Los Angeles full time.
Speaker 5: I felt I can still help this team. You know,
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, I knew what I
Speaker 5: was signing up for. It wasn't like anyone's forcing me
Speaker 5: to go. I mean, this is my tenth here in
Speaker 5: the league. There's a lot bigger things in my life
Speaker 5: to worry about, so I wasn't gonna do anything that
Speaker 5: would beat that mental to my own health.
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Speaker 3: That's right there, he goes. Could be fun.
Speaker 4: But even more fun is this conversation and how everybody's
Speaker 4: got their own opinions. And I've heard so many different
Speaker 4: things about it, So let's just dive right into it,
Speaker 4: if we if we don't mind, guys, well, we got
Speaker 4: so many football experts here. Carson Wentz stays in the
Speaker 4: game the most fascinating thing, and I don't think we've
Speaker 4: talked about it. Corey what dude's name, the color commentator
Speaker 4: guy for Kirk Kirk? Yeah, Herbstreet. Did you wanted you
Speaker 4: think of Kirk kind of calling Carson out about making
Speaker 4: faces and grimacing so much. He kind of just intimated
Speaker 4: that that's something a quarterback shouldn't do.
Speaker 3: Do we agree with that?
Speaker 2: Ben?
Speaker 3: What do you guys think?
Speaker 2: No? I actually did not hear any of these comments.
Speaker 2: Oh you did it? No?
Speaker 3: It am I wrong?
Speaker 2: Guys the game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, during the game, and then a lot of people
Speaker 6: were like, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, zach'skind of pull it up for us. But I
Speaker 3: can't wait for you to hear.
Speaker 4: I'm surprised you guys didn't hear because he was very critical,
Speaker 4: saying a quarterback shouldn't be making those kind of faces
Speaker 4: out like he has.
Speaker 2: Enjoyed that he was dislocated shoulder and fractures.
Speaker 4: I wonder if Kirk wouldn't have made those comments if
Speaker 4: he had known there all these injuries. But I did
Speaker 4: find it really fascinating. Let me know when you get that,
Speaker 4: oh you go, please go ahead and play it.
Speaker 2: Tell you a thousand words or bel can be like
Speaker 2: three thousand words. Yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 7: Understand it's been a lot obviously a rough night and
Speaker 7: he hadn't had a lot of help.
Speaker 2: But to me, when you're when you're the captain of
Speaker 2: the ship, you're.
Speaker 7: The quarterback, you got to try to hold some of
Speaker 7: that emotion in. And I know he's frustrated and hurt,
Speaker 7: and he's hurt, but it's weak seven.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a long way to go.
Speaker 8: And.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's something that's just raw emotions, you know,
Speaker 2: he's put in the mixed matters that long helmet.
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's talking about when he threw his helmet on
Speaker 9: the you know, when he's coming off the field.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it's less about I think, to defend
Speaker 9: Kirk a little bit, I think it's less about the
Speaker 9: injury and he thought it was. He thought he was
Speaker 9: showing emotion because he was frustrated with the protection and
Speaker 9: the just the way the performance of the team.
Speaker 2: That's the way, that's the way.
Speaker 9: I kind of understand that, and less about I think
Speaker 9: if you he really understood how much pain he was in,
Speaker 9: like physical pain he was in from his shoulder, I
Speaker 9: think you'd have a little bit more grace about him
Speaker 9: throwing his helmet. Either way, I actually dis I sort
Speaker 9: of still disagree with everything about about that. I understand
Speaker 9: that you you want your your unquote your leader to
Speaker 9: be more encouraging, a little bit more stoic, But I
Speaker 9: kind of like a lot of pisson vinegar out of
Speaker 9: out of players, you know, like especially when he's needed. Yeah,
Speaker 9: when it's needed. It's not like he's thrown his helmet
Speaker 9: in the after the first series. You know, he's not
Speaker 9: being a baby about it. It's like it's later in
Speaker 9: the game. Nothing's working. He's getting his he's getting his
Speaker 9: his butt pounded in, and he can't get he doesn't
Speaker 9: get any protection he wants.
Speaker 10: Tommy has eligibility, I know, and uh, late in the game,
Speaker 10: show that this isn't working.
Speaker 2: Guys, he's protecting I'm not happy.
Speaker 9: And then you throw on the fact that like his
Speaker 9: his arm, his shoulder is killing him. Then I have
Speaker 9: no problem with any player in that situation. Throwing your
Speaker 9: helmet shown some emotions. So, but how they should have
Speaker 9: pulled him.
Speaker 11: I mean, he with ten minutes to go in the
Speaker 11: game and he looks like he's a to roll over
Speaker 11: and die. You have to as a coach, you have
Speaker 11: to be the bigger person and tell your player you
Speaker 11: can't go.
Speaker 2: You're in a lot of pain.
Speaker 11: It just seemed to and they were not going to
Speaker 11: get better in that game with him playing quarterback. They
Speaker 11: weren't gonna come back and win. So to me, it
Speaker 11: was like, gosh, you gotta kind of read the room.
Speaker 11: And when he's coming off, there's a couple series in
Speaker 11: a row where he really showed his pain, not just
Speaker 11: his frustration at that At some point You're like, let's
Speaker 11: get him off the field. This is my belief as
Speaker 11: the coach, you're the bigger person to say he's injured.
Speaker 2: He's showing it. Let's just go to the broke.
Speaker 11: And that's not because I wanted to see Max Brosberg
Speaker 11: to see what he could do.
Speaker 2: He's just like, we're gonna cut our losses and move on.
Speaker 9: So my rebuttal to that is, do you are one
Speaker 9: player away from putting your injured quarterback in the game
Speaker 9: if Broseburg goes out there and he it's hurt, yeah, right,
Speaker 9: Because we've seen this. We've seen this a lot in
Speaker 9: the NFL. The backup quarterback gets in there and because
Speaker 9: of I don't know, I mean, I'm I'm a big
Speaker 9: believer that your body's got to be conditioned to play
Speaker 9: football and you don't get out there and get hit
Speaker 9: very often. Then you get hit, they come up GIMPI
Speaker 9: and they come up lame and they twist this, they
Speaker 9: roll that, they get hit on a pass play and
Speaker 9: next thing you know, there's an opportunity for your your
Speaker 9: emergency quarterback, I agree, has to go in the game
Speaker 9: in which you're trying to really nurse him back to
Speaker 9: one hundred percent health. I think that if if he can,
Speaker 9: if he can last through the pain, because the pain's
Speaker 9: gonna subside in his shoulder, and he can go out
Speaker 9: there and then and execute a minimal game plan because
Speaker 9: at that point, Brozemer or whoever, whoever it's going to be,
Speaker 9: you are just basically going to hand the ball off
Speaker 9: and have some short, quick passes.
Speaker 4: Can I I real quick? Guys look for clarification. I
Speaker 4: don't know the answer to this. If you bench Carson
Speaker 4: Wentz and then Bursemer comes in and gets hurt, you
Speaker 4: can't put Wentz back.
Speaker 9: In, of course again like you can. But I think
Speaker 9: if it's if it's because of injury, it look looks
Speaker 9: had I think, I think, ly, what's that going.
Speaker 2: To look like?
Speaker 6: Because I think in that situation, this is my opinion,
Speaker 6: but you if you take went out, he's out out
Speaker 6: right and he can't he can't come back in, you
Speaker 6: would label No.
Speaker 12: I don't think.
Speaker 9: I don't think it's like I don't think it's like
Speaker 9: a picture in baseball.
Speaker 2: I think that he can go back again. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it sounds crazy.
Speaker 11: Ben, who's the who's the guy that threw the half
Speaker 11: the half back pass?
Speaker 2: Against in London.
Speaker 11: The running back can Maker cam Makers comes in and
Speaker 11: plays quarterback the last five minutes.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's that would be better than putting JJ
Speaker 2: out there, and that's what they would do.
Speaker 11: I remember growing up watching the Chicago Bears that they
Speaker 11: had their forced put Walter Payton at quarterback for the
Speaker 11: last of the four and it's just like, what are
Speaker 11: you going to do?
Speaker 2: Like that they would have had he won the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl struggle? Come on, man, it was a tough situation
Speaker 2: to watch. But the thing is okay.
Speaker 9: So even if you even if you go to Plan
Speaker 9: D or E and you just buy it, pass plan
Speaker 9: C at quarterback either way, we because we don't know,
Speaker 9: like how Brozemer potentially gets injured.
Speaker 2: Well what if he's injured for several weeks? No, I agree, Well,
Speaker 2: then all of.
Speaker 9: A sudden, now you feel like JJ is on a
Speaker 9: path to start, so he starts this Lions game.
Speaker 2: Then you don't have a backup quarterback back at all.
Speaker 11: You would have gone out and found someone. But yes,
Speaker 11: I agree, I don't there's no one else.
Speaker 9: John Wolford comes in and he's a backup quarterback for this.
Speaker 2: And I am what he doesn't get hurt.
Speaker 3: H I love it. Keep going.
Speaker 9: Come on, yeah, you think there's a controversy or I
Speaker 9: think that that happens in that moment.
Speaker 2: Hey, they're there.
Speaker 8: I think this is illogical, But there were a lot
Speaker 8: of there were a lot of people on Twitter going,
Speaker 8: are the Vikings afraid to let bros sing because they
Speaker 8: don't want JJ to look bad?
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, it's preposterous.
Speaker 8: If we had a party moment to Trey Lance, right,
Speaker 8: if you had Brozmer come in and just light it up, that's.
Speaker 2: Great news for the Vikings, fantastic.
Speaker 8: They would be thrilled if they found their franchise quarterback
Speaker 8: in Brosemer. It doesn't have to be McCarthy. They want
Speaker 8: one of them, hopefully McCarthy, to be the guy. I
Speaker 8: don't think they would be like, oh god, we can't
Speaker 8: let Max be good.
Speaker 2: The past to protect Bromer.
Speaker 11: I honestly think the way that the Rams in that
Speaker 11: offensive line couldn't protect Wentz, they weren't going to protect Brosmer.
Speaker 11: And I think to your point, it wasn't a It
Speaker 11: was a little bit about the longevity of like the
Speaker 11: season and having a strong backup.
Speaker 2: They probably knew even going in the game.
Speaker 11: It was going to be a struggle to get Carson
Speaker 11: Wentz to complete the seventeen game schedule with them. They're
Speaker 11: hoping he could, but when they couldn't protect him, it
Speaker 11: was gonna be tough for any quarterback, Cam Makers, Max Brosmer,
Speaker 11: whoever to to stay upright and not get injured.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we don't know anything about either of what
Speaker 2: we have seven quarters with JJ and we don't have
Speaker 2: anything with brows, Like, why not just try it? That
Speaker 2: was my whole thought. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I he better be.
Speaker 2: Ready this week. I'll tell you that. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 2: never know. It's a tough place to play too. This
Speaker 2: would be tough, totally, totally.
Speaker 9: Oh, this is gonna be This is gonna be the
Speaker 9: really difficult Did.
Speaker 11: Anyone did anyone pick the Lions and pick them in
Speaker 11: the challenge?
Speaker 6: I'm out saying talking to the wrong room, hogs Daddy,
Speaker 6: and I remember picked, I did not, Benjamin.
Speaker 8: The stat on ESPN about fifteen minutes ago, was it?
Speaker 8: You know, the Lions are somewhere around eight and a
Speaker 8: half point favorites. According to the ESPN, only ten percent
Speaker 8: of the money is on the Vikings. Yeah, ten percent
Speaker 8: of bets, I should say, not necessarily the money.
Speaker 2: Ten percent of the bets are on the Vikings either
Speaker 2: ninety percent. Yeah, not around Detroit.
Speaker 6: I think Nor said the last time they won as
Speaker 6: a eight and a half point dog or higher was
Speaker 6: the game you guys played that Tuesday night in Philly.
Speaker 6: I think that's the last time the Vikings have won
Speaker 6: is an eight point underdog or more.
Speaker 2: It's hard. Yeah, that big of a dog.
Speaker 9: Yes, I know we'll have some time to talk about
Speaker 9: it at seven forty, but I mean it is. This has
Speaker 9: to be If the Vikings want to win this game,
Speaker 9: then I'm not even talking about just bets here. If
Speaker 9: they want to win the game, He's getting his butt
Speaker 9: pounded in.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so glad. I'm so glad that that was
Speaker 2: clipped up. Just played again.
Speaker 9: I will this has to be the best game that
Speaker 9: they played all year, Like for every single phase. I mean,
Speaker 9: we have like all the things that we go into
Speaker 9: every game with and are like, well, if we could
Speaker 9: just do this, and if we just do that, like
Speaker 9: we have to put it all together and we have
Speaker 9: to hope that they play a subpar game in some
Speaker 9: of those areas as well, so like it almost has
Speaker 9: to be the perfect star. I'm not saying that it's
Speaker 9: not possible, but this has to be a level of
Speaker 9: offense and defense and special teams that we haven't seen.
Speaker 2: Right, a couple of things quickly.
Speaker 8: Number one time you got to go right all right, Tommy,
Speaker 8: you're the best scene.
Speaker 2: Next week, t O is the best.
Speaker 8: Number two, you're absolutely trucking flash this year in bets, right,
Speaker 8: what's the bet this again?
Speaker 11: This week we struggle the fine one. I try to
Speaker 11: get Ben to take Kansas State. The mid game this
Speaker 11: week is Vanderbilt is at Texas Texas minus two and
Speaker 11: a half. I stayed away from that game. I'd love
Speaker 11: to see Vanderbilt go on the road and get another
Speaker 11: big win, and I hope that happens.
Speaker 2: But most of the money's on Texas.
Speaker 11: But we are going to agree on College game Day
Speaker 11: is going to Utah for a nine to fifteen pm
Speaker 11: kick on ESPN. Cincinnati, which is a team that's really
Speaker 11: been strong outside of that opening weekend loss to Nebraska.
Speaker 2: Great quarterback.
Speaker 11: They're out there running back so that that point spread
Speaker 11: has moved quite a bit, or he's questionable in Utah,
Speaker 11: just put a beat down on Colorado last week. I
Speaker 11: think Sauce is a minus seven and a half. Utah
Speaker 11: is hosting Cincinnati. A corre Ben's taking Utah minus seven
Speaker 11: and a half. I'm taking Cincinnati plus seven and a half.
Speaker 11: And outside of that, no one. I couldn't get anyone
Speaker 11: to take a look at the U A. Dina minus
Speaker 11: six and a half at Forest Lake game. And of course,
Speaker 11: and of course Minnetaka hosting minus nineteen and.
Speaker 2: A half versus Prior Lake. No one wanted that. And
Speaker 2: the other big bet, which I think really is exciting.
Speaker 11: A six seed more Head at number two seed Woodbury
Speaker 11: kind of out in the east side of the city.
Speaker 11: Morehead minus nineteen and a half road favorites at Woodbury
Speaker 11: High School football.
Speaker 3: That is the longest possible.
Speaker 2: It's five hours.
Speaker 9: Then your hands up, yeah, real quick, since we're talking
Speaker 9: to high school real quick. I want to say a
Speaker 9: huge shout out to my daughter and her Beanila volleyball team.
Speaker 2: They won their section final last night. They're headed to Stay.
Speaker 9: They went today with a packed house, awesome environment, I mean,
Speaker 9: the coolest environment for for high school volleyball, and they
Speaker 9: beat them in three straight sets. So congratulations to them.
Speaker 2: Right on.
Speaker 8: All right, Flash Tommy, thanks Scott Hanging. I shouldn't say flash, Tommy,
Speaker 8: I should say flash with a long pause, and then
Speaker 8: Tommy Elston and uh yeah, so also do sports after
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Speaker 4: Hi, welcome back to Forby. It's a Powtry morning show.
Speaker 4: Oh there's a Ben Lever. Hi, Ben, Hi, are you
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I know you love it.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
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Speaker 2: Sauce, do something.
Speaker 6: We're doing Vikings news next. But they battle the Lions
Speaker 6: in Detroit at noon pregame at ten. They are an
Speaker 6: eight and a half point underdog.
Speaker 2: Ben. We'll talk about this in a second, but why
Speaker 2: not just do it now?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 2: We mentioned it yesterday.
Speaker 8: The Lions have never beaten the Viking six straight times.
Speaker 2: Jude.
Speaker 8: If they went on Sunday, this would be their sixth
Speaker 8: straight win against Minnesota.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: See that sound, Sauce, that's what That's what you and
Speaker 9: Kel's could be for Halloween.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Turn around just like Taylor, Just like Taylor. Right now,
Speaker 2: See there's there's Louis. Yeah, he's wearing a hot costume,
Speaker 2: and you guys could be Ketchup and Mustard and just
Speaker 2: make that sound all the time.
Speaker 8: We probably if you, if you and kell are going
Speaker 8: to be Ketchup and Mustard, which one is which?
Speaker 2: And why? I would probably don't you normally say? Good question.
Speaker 2: A lot of people will be they need it. I
Speaker 2: think it's a good question. I think that was a
Speaker 2: good question. Which one of you would be Ketchup and
Speaker 2: which one of you would be Mustard? Good question. A
Speaker 2: lot of people are asking that.
Speaker 3: Oh wait here comes Mayo.
Speaker 2: Hi Tommy, Oh Tommy, Toby.
Speaker 8: Shouldn't you be sauce of some kind, like barbecue sauce?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't think you put that on hot dog.
Speaker 2: Louis doesn't know he's nine months old. He's ten months today. Sorry,
Speaker 2: it wasn't counting.
Speaker 6: It's Louis. Oh whatever. What's Harrison going as for Halloween?
Speaker 2: Why would I learn other people's kids' names because you've
Speaker 2: worked with me for twenty years? Oh there is that? God,
Speaker 2: the bits are great, Yeah, NonStop. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I would probably be Mustard because my lovely wife doesn't
Speaker 6: like mustard?
Speaker 2: Does she like ketchup? Yeah? She puts ketchup on a
Speaker 2: hot dog. Yeah, yeah, right, she does.
Speaker 3: She's so bad.
Speaker 2: Really well, yeah, that really is Well it's his wife,
Speaker 2: by the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm seeing her naked.
Speaker 2: Yeah for me, seeing Hawk naked is just returning the favor. Yeah.
Speaker 8: Full circles. Yeah, now I think we have to complete
Speaker 8: the circle. And now Kel has to see you naked.
Speaker 8: Oh wow, we're talking about it. I just said that
Speaker 8: would be awesome.
Speaker 2: She's seen me naked. Circle is complete. But but and Bar.
Speaker 6: Starts at the Ravens at the Dolphins tonight. Oh, the
Speaker 6: Ravens are seven and a half point favorites and they
Speaker 6: will have Lamar Lamar.
Speaker 2: We talked about this a lot this week, Benjamin.
Speaker 8: But it's pretty crazy that a two and five team
Speaker 8: is favored to win their division. Yeah, that's how easy
Speaker 8: the schedule is, and obviously that's how good they are
Speaker 8: once they get healthy. They are, by most people's of opinions,
Speaker 8: a Super Bowl contender when they're healthy. So it's crazy
Speaker 8: that a two and five team is still favored to
Speaker 8: win the division.
Speaker 6: They're early are three and a half point favorites against
Speaker 6: the Vikings.
Speaker 2: It's not even like a controversial take.
Speaker 9: No, like I think everybody in the in the NFL
Speaker 9: world looks at their the division and their schedule, and
Speaker 9: they look at their talent, they're like, yeah, when they're
Speaker 9: healthy and they're rolling, they're one of the top five
Speaker 9: six teams in the league, So why wouldn't they win
Speaker 9: their division.
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna look back at this season. There's
Speaker 4: gonna be a lot of things we're gonna remember. But
Speaker 4: that schedule has been torture. Our schedule, Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 4: it's even worse than we thought it was going to be.
Speaker 6: Well, it's gonna get worse too. Somebody, was it Pa
Speaker 6: or Nordo yesterday said that they've had the easiest schedule
Speaker 6: up until now, and then the rest of it is
Speaker 6: the toughest schedule left.
Speaker 8: I think Chris is not talking about necessarily the difficulty,
Speaker 8: but the the double travel London Thursday night to la Yeah,
Speaker 8: just in general.
Speaker 3: It was harder than we even spent dangers, made it.
Speaker 2: Worse, made it way way worse. Gosh, Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3: I feel like I haven't been home in a month.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you've been with my dad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is kind of home for me.
Speaker 2: That's very sweet.
Speaker 3: It is a sweet thing. That I think about it.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 9: Yeah, the thing is, yeah, why I thought, I.
Speaker 2: Think it's a jiggalo. Whatever wants he's a jig sounds
Speaker 2: a juggalo, you know.
Speaker 9: I thought because of the the traveled to the UK
Speaker 9: and this the quick wrap around to l A, I
Speaker 9: felt like, all right, our schedule sort of frontloaded with
Speaker 9: all these away games, and then you look at the
Speaker 9: remains schedule.
Speaker 2: It's really not it's not. It's not all we got.
Speaker 9: We we have the game this weekend in Detroit, and
Speaker 9: then we are home for two, and then it's Green Bay,
Speaker 9: and then it's the long trip to Seattle that's always
Speaker 9: a tough one, washing Washington. Then we go to Dallas,
Speaker 9: then two back to back trips again to Dallas and
Speaker 9: New York, and then we finally finish up with two
Speaker 9: home games.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it doesn't.
Speaker 9: It really doesn't get any easier from a travel schedule,
Speaker 9: and it certainly doesn't get easier from a talent's you
Speaker 9: know standpoint. I mean a lot of these teams now
Speaker 9: I think I think the Bears right are better, way,
Speaker 9: way way better than they were week one. The packers
Speaker 9: are the packers. They're rolling, they're they're a top two
Speaker 9: or three team in the league. Seattle is going to
Speaker 9: be a tough that's always. I don't even care if
Speaker 9: it's Gino or somebody else. I don't care if it's
Speaker 9: Matt Flynn that we're playing out in Seattle. Playing at
Speaker 9: Seattle is going to be a tough game. The Commanders
Speaker 9: when they're healthy, probably at top twelve team.
Speaker 2: In the league.
Speaker 9: And then the Cowboys right now, I mean when I
Speaker 9: heard Brian Schottenheimer wants to he wants to, you know,
Speaker 9: sort of tamp down a little bit of all this
Speaker 9: love that they're getting offensively because their statistics and he's
Speaker 9: trying to say like they haven't done anything yet. It's true,
Speaker 9: I mean, when he keep these guys focused, but when
Speaker 9: their offense is rolling, that's that is the number one
Speaker 9: offense in the league. So yeah, yeah, yeah, and again,
Speaker 9: and then the Giants will be tough because it's you know,
Speaker 9: they've they've got some excitement building there. And then we
Speaker 9: have the two division games to close out at home.
Speaker 9: I mean, thankfully we eat them at home.
Speaker 6: But and one's on Christmas just to get really bad,
Speaker 6: well yeah it could.
Speaker 9: But again, I'm you know, not a you know, super
Speaker 9: strong take, but one that I all agree with, Corey,
Speaker 9: because I've heard you talk about it all week long,
Speaker 9: and it's something that that you and I have believed
Speaker 9: in from the very get go. If we can play competitive,
Speaker 9: I'm less concerned about the wins and losses, and I'm
Speaker 9: more concerned about the wins that.
Speaker 2: We see out JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 9: If we feel like at the end of the season
Speaker 9: we are a five win team, but we feel like
Speaker 9: we potentially could have a second year like a Drake
Speaker 9: may or somebody something similar where we found our guy, Like,
Speaker 9: let's start, let's start building this foundation with this new
Speaker 9: quarterback that we know is going to be around for
Speaker 9: the next ten years. That to me is a successful
Speaker 9: twenty twenty five give given all all of the injuries,
Speaker 9: and given all the ups and downs, and given all
Speaker 9: the it seems like we don't have a lot of
Speaker 9: hope when it comes to the short term. If you
Speaker 9: forecast this thing out long term and we feel like
Speaker 9: we've got a quarterback, it's one hundred percent winning season.
Speaker 8: And you can say, you know, the players that are
Speaker 8: at the end of their careers, like the Harrison Smiths,
Speaker 8: we don't know how much time Adam Peeland has left
Speaker 8: guys like that that wanted to come back and make
Speaker 8: one or two more runs at this Yeah, they don't
Speaker 8: want a five win season. That's not a win for them,
Speaker 8: but for the long term fans that are in this
Speaker 8: to see in the actual super Bowl at some point,
Speaker 8: that's the main goal.
Speaker 2: That's the goal.
Speaker 9: Quarterback. Yeah, that's the goal. And the thing is again,
Speaker 9: to reference a guy like Drake May, the window doesn't
Speaker 9: have to be now. I'm just predicting that McCarthy picks
Speaker 9: it up, he learns a ton. We see so many
Speaker 9: flashes of brilliance that it doesn't have to be like,
Speaker 9: oh we got to wait year five, six and seven
Speaker 9: for him to take off. We can put together a
Speaker 9: winning competitive football team and a championship level football team
Speaker 9: in year two of him starting. So year three of
Speaker 9: his professional career, it could start that early as long
Speaker 9: as we see what we see this year.
Speaker 8: Do you know Drake May is third right now for
Speaker 8: MVP odds according to DraftKings, It's Mahomes one, Josh Allen two,
Speaker 8: Drake May three.
Speaker 3: Where's the running back from Indy?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 8: He is tied for seventh, So it goes Mahomes won,
Speaker 8: Alan Twobs, Drake May three, Stafford four, Baker five.
Speaker 2: Ready for this one?
Speaker 8: I think we can all guess Daniel Jones six man nuts.
Speaker 2: How about the Colts having six and seven?
Speaker 8: Yeah, then Jordan Love and Jonathan Taylor are tied at seventh.
Speaker 8: But uh, I mean, we talked about Darnold, we talked
Speaker 8: about Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: But sneakily, Daniel Jones just walks right out the door.
Speaker 8: And I don't think anybody was screaming to bring Daniel
Speaker 8: Jones back killing it.
Speaker 2: It's hard. Terrible, Yeah, terrible, terrible. Now he's killing it
Speaker 2: all right. That was kind of Viking snake. That was good. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: Grenard's on the old injury report.
Speaker 3: Yeah ankle yeah, limited yeah, limited yeahah limited yep, and
Speaker 3: they said ankle yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: I believe so yeah.
Speaker 8: Now weird do don't They normally not necessarily let people
Speaker 8: talk when they're on the injury report.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, because he'd been busy all week
Speaker 4: so far, and they've been trying to get him on
Speaker 4: for selves, wondering if I might get an email or
Speaker 4: text saying it couldn't happen today, But I have gotten
Speaker 4: nothing about that.
Speaker 8: It's like it's one of those weird things like if
Speaker 8: we go, hey, how's your ankle, and you're like, great, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know nothing.
Speaker 8: Are we gonna get somebody in trouble by him saying
Speaker 8: something that he shouldn't be saying about his own health.
Speaker 2: I don't know how this works. Oh hey, look, we just.
Speaker 8: Asked the questions, and if he puts himself in a
Speaker 8: bad spot, it's his problem, not ours.
Speaker 2: Last time we were gonna ask, well, were you gonna ask him.
Speaker 8: About toilets or something or no, trapping in a bedpan?
Speaker 4: By the way, let's just let's just say it like
Speaker 4: it is. He did not call in. Yeah, so let's
Speaker 4: maybe not talk. I mean you could ask him that
Speaker 4: about don't preview it because that might keep him from
Speaker 4: picking up the phone.
Speaker 8: But he's gonna get in less trouble if we asked
Speaker 8: him about using a bedpan, as opposed to what's your
Speaker 8: status for Sunday?
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's Pat Kesler. Is that a good question?
Speaker 2: That's a disgrace. I agree, Wow, that's I'm very friendly.
Speaker 3: Where are you right now?
Speaker 2: Pat? I'm on the beach? Brother? What are you doing?
Speaker 4: You gotta let me ask the questions because I know
Speaker 4: the answers. I don't. I don't have one.
Speaker 1: Should should go to the beach?
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool. Thanks.
Speaker 3: No, he's saying it's cold outside. You're saying you shouldn't.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I see it now?
Speaker 2: Sorry?
Speaker 3: Is that I asked that question again?
Speaker 2: Should go to the beach?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, don't go in there?
Speaker 3: This is hold on, big. What do you have to
Speaker 3: say to Tommy?
Speaker 2: Don't no, no, no, don't go in there?
Speaker 1: Actually, what is Fargo?
Speaker 2: What should he tell Fargo? Is he's in the elevator
Speaker 2: with Tommy.
Speaker 6: Turn around, he's coming right at you.
Speaker 3: Mister Kessler, get him on the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm worried that he doesn't like us.
Speaker 2: I've asked him like three times and he's always out.
Speaker 3: Of town, and I'm worried he doesn't like us.
Speaker 8: I'm just I think he doesn't want that smoke. I
Speaker 8: think he's afraid that. He's a very smart guy. He's
Speaker 8: an intelligent guy. I don't think he wants to get
Speaker 8: smoked by you guys. At initials that he was afraid
Speaker 8: to look dumb. Yeah, yeah, man, he doesn't want this smoke.
Speaker 8: Look at sauce over there. He play a sauce.
Speaker 2: I'm not smart. That's a disgrace. Oh thanks Dad.
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Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 2: The Detroit Lions of play three home games in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five. Ben Leber.
Speaker 8: They beat Chicago by thirty one. Yeah, they beat Cleveland
Speaker 8: by twenty four. They beat a pretty good Tampa Bay
Speaker 8: team by fifteen. So two touchdowns or more all three
Speaker 8: home games. Jared Goff this year in terms of margin
Speaker 8: of victory. Jared Goff this year fifteen touchdowns, three interceptions.
Speaker 8: You know, we just went through the top, what seven
Speaker 8: or eight MVP names. How about a five and two
Speaker 8: squad with a five to one touchdown to interception ratio.
Speaker 8: I mean, Goss's just quietly killing it. Nobody seems to care.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fifteen touchdowns, three picks. Take that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it's it's pretty remarkable what they can
Speaker 9: do offensively. I mean we all know that there's creativity.
Speaker 9: You got to be alert for everything. There's pre snap motions,
Speaker 9: there's shifts, and those shifts aren't just like regular like
Speaker 9: a tight en hot motions over and like oh this
Speaker 9: is the running back Mike. They will go full on
Speaker 9: tackle over. I mean they'll have Pina's seoul that will
Speaker 9: just like hop over and play you know the left
Speaker 9: side tight end spot and then you know, run a
Speaker 9: play there and it actually might just be like a
Speaker 9: cutback run play, but they get you. They get you
Speaker 9: defensively to think about so much. And then oh, by
Speaker 9: the way, they're not afraid in the first quarter to
Speaker 9: run a hook and ladder, you know. So there's creativity,
Speaker 9: there's speed, there's efficiency. I mean, you look at the
Speaker 9: way that Goff is playing, and he does get the
Speaker 9: ball out and it's just he knows, he's so precise
Speaker 9: about where he's going to go with the football, and
Speaker 9: he sees the field so well. It's really hard to
Speaker 9: cover all of the receivers as they go out in
Speaker 9: the routes, and so it is it's going to be
Speaker 9: about not getting frustrated handling that first wave in that
Speaker 9: first quarter. But then the other part of it is
Speaker 9: they are pretty relentless. I mean, I believe that they
Speaker 9: are fourth in the league in fourth quarter points scored.
Speaker 9: They score over ten points a game in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 6: Wow, So.
Speaker 9: They just put the hammer down. I mean, they step
Speaker 9: on the accelerator. They don't ever let up punt. They
Speaker 9: don't punt. They're gonna go for it on fourth down
Speaker 9: no matter where they are in the field. And so
Speaker 9: offensively they're a juggernaut and GoF is doing a great job.
Speaker 9: I would say that I think the issues that we
Speaker 9: have defensively. If we don't fix those immediately, it's gonna
Speaker 9: be a long day for our defense because what we
Speaker 9: haven't done is get any pressure on the inside, and
Speaker 9: that is to me, one of the biggest things to
Speaker 9: get Jared Goff flustered is if we can get inside
Speaker 9: pressure in those A and B gaps and actually flush
Speaker 9: him outside.
Speaker 2: Unlike Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 9: And Justin Herbert, like, we didn't want those guys going
Speaker 9: outside the pocket because they do so much damage.
Speaker 2: They're so creative.
Speaker 9: You get secondary routes by the receivers and they get
Speaker 9: those guys open.
Speaker 2: That was the killer.
Speaker 9: Plus they can run. Jared Goff's not like that, and
Speaker 9: we actually want him to get outside the pocket and
Speaker 9: get flustered and have to make decisions off platform. The
Speaker 9: one problem is we haven't proven that we can provide
Speaker 9: that pressure. And Sech well, how much does this help?
Speaker 8: Because the full participant yesterday that we're on the injury report,
Speaker 8: Christian Darisol full participant. That doesn't necessarily help what you
Speaker 8: just said. JJ McCarthy of course took all the first
Speaker 8: team snaps. But how about Andrew van Ginkel. Looks like
Speaker 8: he's trending the right way, full participant yesterday in practice.
Speaker 8: Do you expect expect him to play on Sunday? Is
Speaker 8: that the word on the street? Is that the vibe
Speaker 8: or what I do now?
Speaker 9: You know, I mean, this is the most positive news
Speaker 9: that we've seen from him. And you know, I had
Speaker 9: heard about the play that he got injured on, but
Speaker 9: I don't know if you guys saw it. No, I
Speaker 9: mean it's actually I forget who posted and they found
Speaker 9: the actual play where he got up ended and fell on.
Speaker 2: I mean, he is. It's remarkable how high he jumps
Speaker 2: in the air. So basically.
Speaker 9: He jumps in the air against the Bears, I believe,
Speaker 9: and he's trying to block a pass. He may actually
Speaker 9: even tipped it, and the running back cuts his legs
Speaker 9: out and he literally legit falls on top of his head,
Speaker 9: like straight on top of his head. So he was
Speaker 9: you know, there's like a concussion issue that they're dealing
Speaker 9: with along with a neck injury that sort of just
Speaker 9: got reaggravated. So based on the way that he got injured,
Speaker 9: I understand why he's been out. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 9: a tricky situation. You got all the weight falling on
Speaker 9: the top of your head. I'm surprised he didn't actually
Speaker 9: damage his neck even further, but it's great positive news
Speaker 9: that he's listed on the injury report the way he is.
Speaker 9: And you know, I'm sure that they're probably going to
Speaker 9: put some sort of you know, red vest, protective vest.
Speaker 9: Even if they go somewhat somewhat live live this week
Speaker 9: to get ready, he will be protected. They'll probably keep
Speaker 9: his head out of a lot of stuff. So I
Speaker 9: would imagine that as long as lower body's good and
Speaker 9: he's feeling in shape, and you know, hopefully he can
Speaker 9: give us a full game and not be on a
Speaker 9: total pitch count.
Speaker 2: But yeah, things are looking good for him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know what, he did a great job
Speaker 4: bringing that down. He did speak to the media yesterday
Speaker 4: and kind of talked about that that injury and I think.
Speaker 2: You actually get saveriafy I landed on my head.
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know that also kind of reaggravated the pnatic
Speaker 12: and you know, it's just a it's been a long process,
Speaker 12: and you know, I've been careful with how I've been
Speaker 12: able to handle this and going through the motions of
Speaker 12: you know, progressing well so I can get back on
Speaker 12: the field and you know, help this.
Speaker 4: Team win, And they asked him specifically about how the
Speaker 4: rest of his body's feeling if he's ready to go.
Speaker 2: I feel really good with where I'm at.
Speaker 12: You know, I've been able to practice in a limited
Speaker 12: role in the past couple of weeks and been able
Speaker 12: to just ramp it up and being able to get
Speaker 12: back on the field, get some team reps in and
Speaker 12: it's really it's been a great progression.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
Speaker 9: You know, I'm just gonna I'm totally I want to know,
Speaker 9: I'm totally speculating here only from a guy that has
Speaker 9: had some some neck issues. It's challenging, you know, especially
Speaker 9: if if his protocol involves some sort of epidural which
Speaker 9: have had several it you know, you do need time
Speaker 9: for that for that medicine to work. And the worst thing,
Speaker 9: the last thing you want to do is go out
Speaker 9: there and you know, throw your head around, especially when
Speaker 9: you're dealing with a concussion. Now I never had a
Speaker 9: concussion along with the neck issues, but it's like it
Speaker 9: is a tricky thing because it's sometimes it's nerve related,
Speaker 9: and anybody that's had a nerve issue, it takes a
Speaker 9: long time for that nerve, not only for those discs
Speaker 9: in that area to kind of calm down, but also
Speaker 9: when it's pressing against nerves that are like you need
Speaker 9: nerve function for it to have your muscles and your
Speaker 9: body to function in a way that's going to keep
Speaker 9: you safe and be productive. So I understand that it's
Speaker 9: a it's a tricky injury if it's something similar that
Speaker 9: that I've kind of dealt with. So I'm glad to
Speaker 9: see he's been out there, he's been getting some work
Speaker 9: in practice, and so hopefully, you know, we've seen a
Speaker 9: lot of these guys come back.
Speaker 2: But I'm being on pitch count.
Speaker 9: It seems like what he's saying that he is ramping
Speaker 9: up into a full capacity. So I'm hoping that he
Speaker 9: can give us, you know, all sixty sixty five snaps.
Speaker 2: No sauce.
Speaker 8: This is something you struggled with because you once got
Speaker 8: tech neck because you were doom scrolling looking for Harbon
Speaker 8: news on Twitter and you hurt your neck. You are correct,
Speaker 8: did you get an epidural? What was that timeline? Like,
Speaker 8: what was that process of recovery?
Speaker 2: It was tough.
Speaker 6: Uh, my neck hurt real bad and it was shooting
Speaker 6: lightning pain down my right arm. And once I got
Speaker 6: some good drugs, I just laid on the couch for
Speaker 6: like twenty four hours. What kind of drugs did you get?
Speaker 6: An epidural? No?
Speaker 13: I got steroids? Yeah, sonoy give roids anymore? Wow, you
Speaker 13: can't get stid You didn't give those to Chris? Can't
Speaker 13: I ever talk?
Speaker 2: Why can't you give those to Chris?
Speaker 13: No?
Speaker 2: Not like muscly steroids, the sleepy steroids. Yeah, not the
Speaker 2: muscly ones, musty babes. Can you tell them apart mustly babes?
Speaker 2: What hug? It's one of his top I think that
Speaker 2: might be one of his top choices. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: just got the rigular steroids whatever they are.
Speaker 8: You ever hear somebody like Andrew van Gego complain about
Speaker 8: his neck and you basically just say, hold my beer
Speaker 8: and then you tell him about your forty.
Speaker 2: Two and a half You what is forty two or
Speaker 2: forty three years on the planet. I'm just saying he
Speaker 2: does that with cries? Yeah I do.
Speaker 6: I go, Yeah, creesyl, lookout, look what I have to
Speaker 6: deal with. I know I'm the boy you cried wolf.
Speaker 6: That's the most pain I've ever been into.
Speaker 2: My entire life. It was hideous. Hys Paine, I see
Speaker 2: nothing but nice things about you. Yeah, did you take
Speaker 2: steroids for the other pain?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: No, I went to he had grape apest Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah about eighty four dosi. This is yourmony? Oh god,
Speaker 2: rosies here? Yeah. Oh he's picking up the tab yeah,
Speaker 2: go on Vikings Yeah what yeah? What else?
Speaker 9: I mean, the thing is like, okay, let's let's uh,
Speaker 9: let's look at this from I mean, the thing is
Speaker 9: there is hope that we can, you know, we can
Speaker 9: be competitive and win this game. I mean you look
Speaker 9: at you look at our offensive line. Thankfully, I think
Speaker 9: we're all going to be accounted for outside of Ryan Kelly,
Speaker 9: I believe if that's correct. I mean that's huge, right,
Speaker 9: you know, my one of my biggest, the biggest things
Speaker 9: I'm watching outside. I mean, everybody's watching how Marcarthy is
Speaker 9: going to play. But this is the thing that I
Speaker 9: want to see and I'm hoping, hoping that he has
Speaker 9: learned from just watching the game from the sideline, is
Speaker 9: that yes, you you want to be in system. I
Speaker 9: understand that he wants to do what Koc wants him
Speaker 9: to do, that we want this to be a big
Speaker 9: play offense, but understand that there's there's always going to
Speaker 9: be an outlet. And again, checkdowns are a win. They're
Speaker 9: not the sexy win. But we have guys much like
Speaker 9: the Detroit offense. So much of their big plays come
Speaker 9: yards after catch. You know, you don't see Jared Goff
Speaker 9: a lot of times just wind up and chuck it
Speaker 9: down the field to William's you know, fifty yards down
Speaker 9: the field, and they're hoping for a big play. They
Speaker 9: just sort of murder you by hitting you know, short
Speaker 9: intermediate routes and letting their guys go to work. So
Speaker 9: having this ability to check down, always know where your
Speaker 9: outlets are, I think that's going to be huge for him.
Speaker 9: And then secondarily, and I just mentioned it with Herbert
Speaker 9: and Hertz, Dude, you're you're an athletic guy. If you
Speaker 9: break the pocket, that doesn't mean that you have to
Speaker 9: break the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2: Buy some time.
Speaker 9: Understand how difficult it is for our defensive backs to
Speaker 9: have to cover these guys in a scramble route situation.
Speaker 9: When they get they get second chance routes to run.
Speaker 9: Do the same thing for our guys break outside the pocket.
Speaker 9: Buy some time, allow these guys to pivot fine, open grass,
Speaker 9: your eyes open, and just deliver the ball, just like
Speaker 9: these other quarterbacks have done to our defense. I know
Speaker 9: it's not within the scheme of the offense, but it's
Speaker 9: productive and it's deadly if we can do that to
Speaker 9: this defense, which they're getting some guys healthy back in
Speaker 9: their secondary. I get all that they're getting their linebacker healthy.
Speaker 9: We just saw Aiden Hutchinson got paid. He's gonna be
Speaker 9: extra motivated. I know this is going to be a
Speaker 9: formidable defense. But it's not like they're unstoppable. I mean,
Speaker 9: they're allowed to make mistakes, they're allowed to get down
Speaker 9: on themselves. They're allowed to be frustrated as well. Can
Speaker 9: you imagine if he goes in there and starts picking
Speaker 9: apart this defense, how frustrated that they're going to be
Speaker 9: with themselves, that this young quarterback in his third start
Speaker 9: is picking them apart like he can do that.
Speaker 4: I would love to see him play well and have
Speaker 4: command of the offense and make some decisions that look
Speaker 4: like they were his decision, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I would also like to see a kickoff return without
Speaker 4: a penalty. Yeah, and I would also like to see
Speaker 4: a clean catch every time that is not reviewed and
Speaker 4: gone the wrong. I just I want to see a
Speaker 4: regular football game with a quarterback who looks like we
Speaker 4: have a possibility for a future.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I'd love to see a win.
Speaker 6: I'd like to see about three or four first downs
Speaker 6: in a row, just to good drive. Just get the ball,
Speaker 6: move down the even if you kick a field.
Speaker 8: Goal, don't go three and out on that. Whenever you
Speaker 8: get the ball, don't go three and out on your
Speaker 8: FA like to see the deaf tones at halftime.
Speaker 2: I would like to see you go to kindness camp.
Speaker 2: Where is that? What kind of activities are we doing?
Speaker 2: Learning how to be nice to people? The whole time?
Speaker 2: Is their team building? Yeah? Like what, calm down? You're
Speaker 2: on camera. We can all see that.
Speaker 3: That's more of a risk building exercise.
Speaker 2: I would like to see Will Reiker and not have
Speaker 2: to battle with circus of the stars above his head
Speaker 2: every game. Yeah, that's an illusion. Kirk Cameron on a
Speaker 2: tight rope.
Speaker 4: Honestly, if I see a penalty on a pump return
Speaker 4: or a kickoff return again, I'm going to throw up in.
Speaker 2: The You're gonna be I am?
Speaker 8: I was going through the checkout yesterday at Target while
Speaker 8: the kiddle was at gymnastics, and I heard security come
Speaker 8: over in the self checkout line and the get you know,
Speaker 8: I have one person from Target monitoring the whole area.
Speaker 8: She called security over because I guess it had happened
Speaker 8: while my back was turned. Somebody puked in the trash
Speaker 8: can of the self checkout lanes and they had to
Speaker 8: call security over. That's when you say, ros, what am
Speaker 8: I doing?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Gross, I'm just trying to watch people check out and
Speaker 8: now I'm dodging puke.
Speaker 2: Bullets threw up in the trash can. That's that's not
Speaker 2: The bathroom's fifteen feet away.
Speaker 3: I'm just coming out.
Speaker 2: Puked in the trash can. At least they made it
Speaker 2: to the trash can. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, the word
Speaker 2: puke pukes gross.
Speaker 8: Yeah, sure is strong. Take thank you, uh Tom Pella Sero.
Speaker 8: In like fifteen minutes, Jonathan Grenard later Ben Leeber is here.
Speaker 2: This is the power tro money you all the things