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From the five twenty Bar 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: and Grail in Bellevue, Mike Holmgrid with Softie and Dick. 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: Well usually on a Thursday from the five to twenty 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 2: Bar and Girl'll be back there next week talking about 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: hopefully a number one seed Seattle Seahawks team on a 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: buy in the first round of the playoffs. But we 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: got a lot of work, a lot of heavy lifting 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: to get to until then. But he's joining us today, 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: so kindly enough to join us on a Friday, Coach, 17 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: how are you. 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: Good, Dick? 19 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 4: Happy New year, half new year you Hi, Happy new year, Coach. 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 5: Happy New Year to you as well, Coach. 21 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: And you know this is just a fun time a 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: special week we were talking about earlier in the show, 23 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: just the fourth time ever that a winner gets the 24 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: one seed and a loser goes to the wild card 25 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: in NFL playoff history. 26 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 5: So it's going to be a special time down in 27 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 5: a place that you know very very well in the 28 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 5: Bay Area. 29 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: Just kind of give us your general thoughts as you 30 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: get anticipating the kickoff tomorrow at five o'clock. 31 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's gonna it's gonna be a great game, 32 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 3: and you got two really fine football teams that have 33 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 3: had extraordinary seasons thus far, and now it's the first 34 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: step in the road to the super Bowl. You know, 35 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: whoever wins obviously has a little easier trek because they 36 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: have to buy and all that kind of stuff. But 37 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 3: still it's just the first step in two or three 38 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: games getting you there to the super Bowl. So no, 39 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: I am so excited and looking forward to this. And 40 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 3: I think a lot of the teams, well, they both 41 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: have outstanding records, their strengths are are different, in my opinion, 42 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: and so I'm looking for I'm looking for a great game. 43 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 4: Well, let's pick up on that the strengths are different. 44 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 4: What do you see as the strengths for each side. 45 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: Well, I think you know that both teams are good 46 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: in all areas, but I think San Francisco has an 47 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 3: edge offensively really right now, and the Seahawks have the 48 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: edge defensively. Both special teams are pretty good, although I 49 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: give I give the kicker kickers for the Seattle a 50 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: little extra credit there. But it'll be interesting to see 51 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 3: how those things line up. You know, defense is strong 52 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 3: defense versus a strong offense and vice versus. So that's 53 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: what I'm thinking, and you know it's both teams. I 54 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 3: think you have done a good job of dealing with 55 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 3: some injury situations this season and they've overcome it. And 56 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 3: great coaches, great young coaches, and it's just going to 57 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 3: be one of those games. 58 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: Coach, you know, you haven't been in an exact situation 59 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: like this before with the win and you're the one seed, 60 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: but you've you know, you've been in must win situations. 61 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: You got to win the last game of the season 62 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: or you're not in the playoffs, or you're not the 63 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: division title. But you know, nineteen ninety nine, you had 64 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 2: to win an in game against the Jets that didn't 65 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: go well, so you had to wait for the Raiders 66 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 2: Chiefs game, which was on after your game. So I 67 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: was wondering, what's more nerve racking coaching in a game 68 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: that you must win or sitting watching a game on 69 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: TV that you must go your way or else you're 70 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: not going to make the playoffs. And incidentally, thank god 71 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: to Pete Soyanovitch who the missed the field goal and 72 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: the Raiders came in and kicked a thirty three yarder, 73 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: so the Seahawks were able to go to the playoffs 74 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety nine. 75 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: No, you know what, that was unbelievable, and Dick, you know, 76 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: I was kind of over that, and now you're bringing 77 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: it up again. I'm starting to get a little heartburn, 78 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: you know. No, wait, that's season. And that season, if 79 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: you remember, we were eight and two and then kind 80 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: of literally fell apart down the stretch, you know, and 81 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: there were reasons for that, but I won't go into those. 82 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: But we were playing the Jets and they didn't have 83 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: their quarterback and they beat us and we It was awful. 84 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 3: I went into the locker room and I was about 85 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: as low as I could get, you know, and then 86 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, someone came up at me. In 87 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: the locker room and said, hey, the Raiders won. They won, 88 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: and they were in the playoffs. You know. So I 89 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: went from a low, low, low to kind of feeling 90 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: good about it again, but really disappointed. I'm very disappointed 91 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 3: how we finished that season. 92 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 4: Mike homegrin with us. Mike Don James in nineteen ninety 93 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 4: nine told the Seattle Times I'm paraphrasing, but he said, 94 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 4: the big game is always the one you lose. They 95 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 4: never want to give you credit for the one you win. 96 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 4: And the reason I bring that up is Sam Donald. 97 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: It just for whatever reason, there's this refrain that you 98 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 4: know that he hasn't won a big game or words 99 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 4: to that effect. And yet last season on December twenty ninth, 100 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 4: the Vikings beat the Packers to put themselves in a 101 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 4: position to have the big game, and Donald threw for 102 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 4: like three hundred and seventy yards three touchdowns, and his 103 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 4: teammates literally put him on their shoulders in the locker. 104 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 4: You can see it on the video and YouTube. The 105 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 4: week before that, he had a great game beating Seattle 106 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 4: and others to get to fourteen and three. To make 107 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 4: that last game pivotal. I feel like it's it's days 108 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 4: all vous Oliver. People are gonna forget that he came 109 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 4: back in the RAM game, in the fourth quarter and 110 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 4: the overtime and made the place to win that game, 111 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 4: and everybody's just going to be hanging this. Okay, Sam 112 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 4: Donald got to win the big one type of thing. 113 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 4: What's your take about that whole narrative surrounding Sam Donald? 114 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 3: You know, Hugh, I couldn't agree with you more. I 115 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 3: felt that way all along. You know's he's played very 116 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: well for the Seahawks. He's one of the main reasons 117 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 3: they are where they are. And you know, yeah, he 118 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 3: had those two games last year, but every quarterback that's 119 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 3: ever played, every quarterback that's ever played, has been in 120 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: a situation where they lost a tough game and their 121 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 3: team was expected to win. And so no, I think 122 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: he'll be a big part of the success the Seahawks 123 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: are going to have, you know, moving forward for the 124 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: rest of the year. But I don't think it's I 125 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 3: don't think it's fair at all. I think you know, 126 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: they talked about his turnovers, Okay, yeah, but you know 127 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: the turnovers, some of them. Every quarterback that's ever played 128 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 3: would turn the ball over if you got the ball 129 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 3: in the air and they hit your arm. Everyone, everyone, 130 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 3: you know. And then so there are some there are 131 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 3: some you'd want to take back. There are some decisions 132 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: he has made that you want to take back. But 133 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 3: all in all, I've got a lot of faith in him. 134 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: I've got a lot lot of confidence in him. And 135 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: I think the people that are on that on that 136 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 3: in that car saying what you said, you know he 137 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: can't win the big one, all that, Ah, the heck 138 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: with him, you know, they don't know, they don't know. 139 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: And I think he's gonna be just fine. 140 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 5: Well that makes three of us. 141 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: I agree with you both, And I'll just piggyback on 142 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: Hughes thought, Well, guess what they're gonna say if Sam 143 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: Darnold wins this week. Well, he hasn't done it in 144 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: the playoffs yet, so let's see if Sam can succeed 145 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. So, I mean, it's just it's never 146 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: going to continue for It's always going to continue for Sam, 147 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: unless I guess he has to rattle off and go 148 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: to the super Bowl or something. But Mike Holmgren joining 149 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: us here so gracious to join us on a Friday 150 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: afternoon outside of his normal time slot. Well, let's talk 151 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: a little bit more about Sam coach. I mean, there's 152 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,119 Speaker 2: a thought that, you know, Sam gets in trouble when 153 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: the pocket collapses, when he gets muddied. He tries to 154 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: make plays. He's a gun slinger. He's not afraid to 155 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: throw the ball down the field. So there's a thought that, Okay, 156 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: can we rain him in just a little bit and 157 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: maybe sacrifice a few of the big plays for a 158 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: few less turnovers. 159 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 5: Is that a way. 160 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,119 Speaker 2: That Mike McDonald and Clint Kubiak should be going about things, 161 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: or you just leave Sam the way he is. 162 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't use the term to rain him in. 163 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: I wouldn't do that. What I would do, however, is 164 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: you there are certain turnovers that you look at it. 165 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: You look, he's sitting in the room with you, You're looking 166 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 3: at the film, and you go and you correct it. 167 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 3: You know, you could don't do that. You know, that's okay, 168 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 3: you know that. I listen, you know, and you guys 169 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 3: knew me when I had a lot of hair. I 170 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 3: lost it all with far I lost it, you know, 171 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 3: because because of the fact that he would do that 172 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: as he got older, As he got older and we'd 173 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: have those meetings. Every year things changed, it got better, 174 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: and so I think that's what has to happen. You know, 175 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: no one's perfect. I mean, you played the position for 176 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: a long time. He knows and and and we know 177 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: the quarterback we have with the Seahawks right now is 178 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: a good one and he's proven it. And I think 179 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: now he's only been in the league. You correct me 180 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 3: if my mom with six years or seven or something like. 181 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 4: That, yeah, and twenty years old. 182 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and now he's got a lot of years 183 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: ahead of him. But you're always good, like Dick, what 184 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 3: you said, you're always gonna have Well, it's the first step. 185 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: But we haven't gotten to the super Bowl. How many 186 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: quarterbacks in the history of the NFL you have gone 187 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: and won super Bowls, have gotten there and won super Bowls? 188 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 3: And how many have almost got there? But I was 189 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 3: lost those that number were far out numbers the ones 190 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: that get there, right, So and you know it's oh, 191 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 3: go ahead. 192 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 4: Please, no, Mike, I'm sorry I interrupt you, Please finish 193 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 4: your thoughts. 194 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 3: No, I just I just say, look at him that way, 195 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 3: look at him that way, and stay positive. That's all 196 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 197 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 4: Well, and There's also the piece that how many quarterbacks 198 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 4: have won a Super Bowl with year one with the 199 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 4: quarterback on the team and year one with the offensive coordinator. 200 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 4: I don't believe it's ever really done. I know I 201 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 4: was on that Cowboy team when a young, upstart Green 202 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 4: Bay Packers were like, whoa. You could tell these are 203 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 4: these guys are coming. They got a new coach in 204 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 4: nineteen ninety two, and you know, maybe they're going to 205 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 4: challenge the Cowboys and I remember the Packers coming into 206 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 4: Cowboys Stadium and Mike, you probably remember that game in 207 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 4: the regular season and the Cowboys just put a bootstomp 208 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 4: on you guys because you're only in year two with 209 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 4: you and Brett Favor whatever. But you were building, you're building, 210 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 4: and it all came to fruition in a Super Bowl 211 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 4: win a few years later. But you know, it doesn't 212 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 4: happen often in year one. Mike, I want to ask you, 213 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 4: as we're talking about this, at some point in your 214 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 4: career as a quarterback coach, there had to have been 215 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 4: a quarterback that you thought was being a little bit 216 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 4: too convative, that he wasn't letting it go when there 217 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 4: were some opportunities to maybe get some chunk plays. I'm 218 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 4: not talking about go routes down the sideline, but maybe 219 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 4: an in cut or something intermediate somewhere or comeback whatever. 220 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 4: And then he's just he's Charlie checked down. He's just 221 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:19,479 Speaker 4: not taking any chances, uh, to the point of stifling 222 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 4: the offense. Maybe had How do you handle that? Maybe 223 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 4: describe to us a situation where that happened, and what 224 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 4: you to do as a coach. 225 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: You know, I equate that with coaching certainly, but then 226 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: also a youth and a number of snaps you've taken 227 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: it and what your what your career has been up 228 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: to this point. You know, I came into the league 229 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 3: and my first quarterback was Joe Montana. Now how lucky 230 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 3: can you get? You know? But then Steve came in following, 231 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 3: and Steve had a different style. He had not established 232 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: himself to Steve young he became yet and so you 233 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 3: know we had to do that differently. Then you get 234 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: Farv or Matt Hasselbeck or any of the guys that 235 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: followed John Gittna. What you do, I think, is you, 236 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 3: like I told you before you look at it, you know, 237 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 3: what you'd like him to do on this particular play 238 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: against that particular defense. If he doesn't do it, you 239 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 3: sit down and you find out what he's thinking. Why 240 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 3: didn't you do that? Why did you do this? Why 241 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 3: did you do this? See this guy take the throw? 242 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 3: I want you to take that throw right there. Well, 243 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 3: he didn't look open. I'm sounding. I'm telling you you 244 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: throw out there. He's going to catch the ball. Take 245 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: the throw. And so that's coaching, I mean. And if 246 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: the guy, if you see, you will see progress. You 247 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: will see the third year guy better is fourth year 248 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 3: if he's fortunate enough to stay I think with the 249 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 3: same coach and bring me in the same system, and 250 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: you see, you see the improvement. 251 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 5: Mike. 252 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: The Seahawks are banged up at the left tackle position. 253 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: They won't have Charles Cross, They may or may not 254 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: have Josh Jones. We'll talk to Greg Bell a little 255 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: bit later on today about what he thinks about the 256 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: possibility of Jones. It sounds like he might play leaning 257 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 2: that direction, but they may have to go to their 258 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 2: number three guy, a Maury Kaite, who they just activated 259 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: off the practice squad and the biggest Seahawk regular season game. 260 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 5: Maybe of all times. 261 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: So my question is how much do you change your 262 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 2: scheme when you have to go from your starting left 263 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: tackle to a backup left tackle, And then how much 264 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: would you have to change your scheme. Furthermore, if you 265 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: had to go to a practice squad guy at left tackle. 266 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: Well, I think the left tackle position, first of all, 267 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 3: is one of the most important positions on the team 268 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: because the right ended quarterback the guy you know, you're 269 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: protecting his backside, and the quarterback knows that, and so yeah, 270 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 3: I think it's a big deal. And if they have 271 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 3: to go to the number three I don't know this 272 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: young man, I really don't know him at all. But 273 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 3: if they have to go with the number three guy, 274 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 3: then and the forty nine ers, if let's say they 275 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 3: have a good rush rush guy on that side, or 276 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: they put somebody over there on him because of that, 277 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 3: you know, then you're gonna have to help him. You're 278 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: gonna have to chip with tight ends, You're gonna have 279 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 3: to chip with backs, because you know, that's asking a 280 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 3: lot of a guy who hasn't played against a particularly 281 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 3: really good team. So even Josh, if Josh plays, you know, 282 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 3: and he may say he's a little hurt or but 283 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: he plays, it's still a challenge, So you have to 284 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 3: think about that. Yes, to answer your question in your scheming, 285 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: you absolutely have to think of that. 286 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 4: In a game like this, well, the concern might could 287 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 4: be and I hate to pick a scab here, but uh, 288 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 4: I can remember your Super Bowl against the Steelers. Ken 289 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 4: Hamlin was your starter, hell of a player. You lose him, 290 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 4: You know what, Mark Quen Manual is a pretty good backup, 291 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 4: and you didn't. It didn't seem to lose a heck 292 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 4: of a lot like you could manage that you could 293 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 4: win with Mark n Manuel. Then he goes down and 294 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 4: the drop off between two Manual down to three Etric 295 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 4: prew It. I think my memory is a little fuzzy, 296 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 4: but I think I remember doing this sports radio and 297 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 4: saying Etric Prewitt played a material role in all three 298 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 4: Steeler touchdowns and and you know, and it was the 299 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 4: third stringer that you just at that point, it's the 300 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 4: National Football League. It's really hard to win with third stringers. 301 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 4: Just just kind of speak to that one to two 302 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 4: might you can handle? Two to three can really gum 303 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 4: things up? 304 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: That's right, And Dick fought up that other game you're 305 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: bringing up this one. 306 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're being really mean, to catch. 307 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 4: All these seasons our swords, We're coming at you. 308 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty six is going to be better. I know 309 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: it is. But you know, you're you, You're exactly right. 310 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 3: I've thought of that. You know, I have thought of 311 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: that before. I don't care as worked up as I 312 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: used to be, but that that was a big factor 313 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 3: in that game. You say, hey, it's one player. No, 314 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 3: but it's one player in a key position. They're all 315 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 3: key positions, but in a very key position on your defense, 316 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: and that the other team took advantage of. And that 317 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: was a perfect example of what could happen if you 318 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 3: had to go to a third guy coach. 319 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: I was on with the guys down in San Francisco 320 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: on the radio today and I just kind of casually 321 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: todd they we were talking about matchups. I just casually 322 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: tossed out the fact that all the you know, the 323 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: Hawks have the equal at coaching. I mean, there's no 324 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: coaching advantage here. The Hawks have the Kyle Shanahan of 325 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball. 326 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 5: I said, you know, the. 327 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: Hawks, Rams and Niners may have three of the top 328 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: five head coaches in the entire NFL, and they kind 329 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: of bristled. They were like, whoa, you know, they thought 330 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: I'd said something like Sam Darnold's, you know, as good 331 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: as Joe Montana or something like that. I mean, they 332 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: bristled that a little bit. I mean, did I overstep 333 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: my bounds there? Or is is should Mike McDonald already 334 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: be put in the pantheon with some of the great 335 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 2: coaches in the NFL? 336 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 3: You know what? I was on with them? I was 337 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 3: on with the radio station there this morning myself, and 338 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 3: I said it a number of times, Dick, I said 339 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 3: a number of times, you have two coaches in this 340 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: game that are at right at the top of their game, 341 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 3: in the top of this league, even though they're young. Now, 342 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 3: I did say that Kyle's coached longer, been a head 343 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 3: coach longer than Mike. But you have one's defense, one's offense. 344 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 3: That's one of the great another part of this game, 345 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 3: of this particular game, that that's really interesting to watch 346 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 3: because of the defense versus offense matchup. And I don't 347 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 3: you're exactly right in what you're saying, you know, And 348 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 3: so yeah, it's okay to get those guys fired up 349 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 3: a little bit. That's good. That's good. 350 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 4: So Mike in this game. It's some interesting numbers here. 351 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 4: The percentage of plays this is now on defense, okay, 352 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 4: sentenceive plays with five or more rushers, Seahawks not a lot. 353 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 4: They're twenty fifth in the league in that regard. Forty 354 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 4: nine Ers are twenty fourth. But when there are a 355 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 4: five man or more rush the Seahawks, they go to 356 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 4: number one in the NFL in terms of producing this 357 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 4: new stat called negative EPA expected points whatever that is. 358 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 4: The forty nine ers, however, Mike, when they blitzed, they're 359 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 4: twenty eighth. So the difference between first and twenty eight 360 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 4: So that's probably a good omen for Seattle that's had 361 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 4: some trouble protecting for Sam Darnold, at least with the 362 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 4: absence of Nick Bosa, they haven't been inclined to blitz. 363 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 4: When they do blitz, they haven't really created a lot 364 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 4: of havoc. Talk about what those numbers would mean to 365 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 4: you if you were the play caller for the Seahawks 366 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 4: going into this game. 367 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 3: No, I would look at that and feel a little 368 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 3: bit better about it. You know, there's going to have 369 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 3: to pick that thing up, and you know the forty 370 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 3: nine ers are going to come after him. But here's 371 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 3: what I think is different. I think in Mike McDonald 372 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: you have a guy who say he's Russian five. To 373 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 3: your point, you're Russian five. But it's not always the 374 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: same five, It's not always the same side. He mixes 375 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: that up a lot uh to and then all of 376 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 3: a sudden there's a guy unblocked. Why is that because 377 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 3: the quarterback thought he had pressure on the left, he 378 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 3: sends the line that way, whoops, it's coming from the 379 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 3: right or vice versa. But I think that should work. 380 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: That that one stat, not every stat, but that one 381 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 3: stat works in the seahawks favor. There's no question about 382 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 3: it in my opinion. 383 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: Hey, coach, before we let you go and I changed 384 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 2: the subject on you for a second, and go to 385 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 2: college football. I mean, Old Miss got a huge win 386 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: last night over over Georgia and their former coach Lane 387 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 2: Kiffen reportedly is currently deciding how many assistants can actually 388 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 2: remain with Old Miss to coach him in the Final 389 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: four game next week. What what would you do if 390 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: you were in Lane Kiffin's situation. You're you've moved on 391 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: to LSU, your former teams playing in the Final Four. 392 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 2: You got coaches that want to stay at Ole Miss 393 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 2: to finish it out. But you've got a roster to fill. 394 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: The transfer portal open today. You need help. So what 395 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: what would you do in that situation. It's just a 396 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: craziness of college football right now. 397 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: You know this, this this topic affects me the same 398 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 3: way as the referee topic affects oh you know, because 399 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: even when I'll get you, i'll get your answer your 400 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 3: question a second. But you said in the opening remarks 401 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 3: of what was happening that I think you mentioned the 402 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:56,479 Speaker 3: young the quarterback at Washington sign a new deal four year. Okay, 403 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 3: I'm going I go, wait a second, wait a second. 404 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: He's still playing in college, isn't it, you know? And 405 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 3: I'm just going, oh man, anyway, So I don't know, 406 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 3: you know, Lane Kiffin, I think I don't think I 407 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: do that to those guys there, And I wouldn't do 408 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 3: that to the school that was so good to me, 409 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: even though I've got to work and get some things 410 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 3: done in my new school. I mean, I think I 411 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 3: would treat it that way, you know. But but look 412 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 3: at it's like you said, it's a different time and 413 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 3: it's crazy and they have to get I don't know 414 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 3: what they can do, but get a handle on some 415 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 3: of this stuff. Otherwise it's just it's like Pro football 416 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 3: in the first two years and then they go to 417 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 3: the NFL and that's year three, you know, because they're 418 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 3: hiring general managers, they're hiring coaches. The dates seem to 419 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: be a little screwed up on when the transfer portal starts, 420 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 3: you know, to affect those things, how coaches can leave 421 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,479 Speaker 3: and when they can leave. You know, let's get some 422 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: consistency in it, if that's what you're going to do. 423 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 3: But you know, you asked a question of someone who 424 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: doesn't like it at all. 425 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I totally understand. We don't like it either. Well, coach, 426 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 5: we appreciate it. 427 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 2: We promise, at least for the next couple of weeks, 428 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: we won't ask you anything about the nineteen ninety nine 429 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: game against the. 430 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 5: Jets or the Super Bowl. 431 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 3: No, yo, No, all right, No, I can see I 432 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: can't see you right now, but I know you're both 433 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 3: smiling and I'm probably having a beer just because you work. 434 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 4: We got our fingers crossed, yes, Sarah. 435 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: Well, hopefully we're talking to you at the five twenty 436 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: on Thursday after a big Seahawks winning a one seed. 437 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 5: I want to be talking about a bye week with 438 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 5: you next week. All right? 439 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 3: Sounds good, man, sounds good. 440 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 4: Thanks you so much. 441 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 5: That's Mike calm Grin joining us. 442 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: Gracious to join us on a Friday, normally on a 443 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 2: Thursday from the five to twenty Bar and gro We've 444 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: got some interesting numbers going into going into this game 445 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 2: against San Francisco. We'll take a look at some of 446 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 2: those next on ninety three point three k Jarifa. 447 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: Now back to Football Friday, sponsored by Tito's Handmade Vodka 448 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: on your home for the NFL Sports Radio ninety three 449 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: point three. 450 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 2: Kicking all right, thanks to the coach, Mike Colgrin for 451 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: joining us. 452 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 5: Last segment. 453 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 2: Greg Bell from the T and T will join us 454 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: at five o'clock talking about the Seahawks injury situation, the 455 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 2: trip to San Francisco, all the preparations, what Sam Donald 456 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: told him yesterday. And then at six o'clock, Ryan Fowler 457 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 2: is going to join us from Alabama to talk about 458 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 2: one of the worst days in Alabama football history, at 459 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 2: least in recent history. Coming up at six o'clock. But 460 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: you know you when you and I were talking earlier, 461 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: on in the week and even last week about Sam 462 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 2: Donald's interceptions. You had brought up that you've done the 463 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: crunching and that the interceptions thrown by Sam Donald and 464 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: interceptions in general for a quarterback do not have a 465 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: high correlation to losing football games. 466 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 5: And that got me thinking. 467 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 2: I was like, all right, well, what if you could 468 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 2: come up on the nerd machine with some uh, some 469 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 2: statistics that actually do lend themselves a high correlation to 470 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: winning And how good are the Seahawks in comparison to 471 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 2: some of these other elite teams in though, And so 472 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 2: as I asked you to a homework assignment and you 473 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: were the good being, the good student that you are, 474 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: you came through. 475 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 5: So I'm gonna turn the turn the floor over to 476 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 5: you for a few minutes. 477 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 4: So, okay, professor, I do this every every year at 478 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 4: the end of the season. And I said, well, you 479 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 4: know I can. I can do it one game before 480 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 4: because there's been a lot of talk about it and 481 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 4: what's the impact and so the this is coming from 482 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 4: the NFL stat portal. And when I talked before about 483 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 4: quarterback the quarterback ratings and I'll uh uh and and 484 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 4: the all the stats and I'll make a final comment 485 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 4: about just those quarterback stats and their correlation because the 486 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 4: stats that I have over three hundred columns of different 487 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 4: stats a right, not for the quarterbacks. But now what 488 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 4: I'm going to discuss is the NFL they give it 489 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 4: to you. It's the differential. So if I if I 490 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 4: search in the stat diff for differential, it gives me 491 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 4: all these So this would be a combination obviously of 492 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 4: how the offense does for the defense. It's not hard 493 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 4: to understand, and we correlate that to win percentage. So 494 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 4: let's just start with one that we all know. And 495 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 4: this is always hard for me because I don't want 496 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 4: to explain correlation and sound like you don't know. I 497 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 4: think everybody has a grasp of it. But we're going 498 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 4: to talk in terms. Well, we'll talk like a batting average, right, 499 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 4: because that's how correlation to discussed. But it also has 500 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 4: negative When you have negative correlation, one statistic goes up 501 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 4: while the other one goes down. That's a negative. But 502 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 4: let's just talk about turnover margin for this year, a 503 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 4: five to twelve correlation to winning, so kind of right 504 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 4: there at modern not insignificant, but and I've got twenty five. 505 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 4: There's no way in a radio second. I'm just the 506 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 4: most important ones that you got. I'm gonna go. So 507 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 4: just remember that five twelve, uh is a modern, modern correlation. 508 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 4: I'm gonna pick six different stats that are more than 509 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 4: two hundred points above five to twelve. I think of 510 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 4: a baseball player. You wouldn't hit five totals in a season, 511 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 4: but you might hit five twelve in a postseason. Right, 512 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 4: so think of the So everything I'm gonna say it 513 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 4: has a a correlation of seven to twelve or higher. Okay, okay, 514 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 4: first downs differential. So this is remembering this is an 515 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 4: offense and defense statistic that has a seven forty one correlation. 516 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 4: The Seahawks are eighth. 517 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 3: Okay, okay. 518 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 4: Passer rating, this is gonna be the one that has 519 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:03,959 Speaker 4: the highest correlation. Really everything interesting. Passer rating differential. That 520 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 4: old relic passer rating ben around since nineteen seventy. It's 521 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 4: like the difference between a smart bomb and the military 522 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 4: and a dumb bomb that dropped the Vietnam All right, 523 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 4: but it's been around and guess what it has an 524 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 4: eight oh nine. Now eight oh nine the differential. Now, 525 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 4: so this is you're talking offense and defense. So we're 526 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 4: gonna have higher correlation numbers to winning eight oh nine correlation. 527 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 4: The Seahawks are fourth in the NFL. 528 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 5: I'm surprised of that low. 529 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 4: Twenty yard plus twenty yards are more play differential the 530 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 4: seven to twenty eight correlation, Seattle's two. Now let's get 531 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 4: into some other ones. A few more explosive play differential, 532 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 4: which is a lot like what I just said, but 533 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 4: explosive plays are ten yard runs or twenty yard passes. 534 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 4: Explosive play differential has a seven forty four correlation the Seahawks. 535 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 4: The number is third plus thirty eight. That's number one. 536 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 5: In the NFL. 537 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 4: Number one yards per play differential seven to seventy one correlation. 538 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 4: The Seahawks number one in the NFL. Yards per attempt 539 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 4: differential by the two quarterbacks, what you do on offense, 540 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 4: what you do on defense, yards per attempt seven to 541 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 4: fifty one correlation, Seattle Seahawks number one in the NFL. 542 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 4: So there's I mean, now here's here's here's another stat 543 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 4: just as an aside. You know, the old thing, like 544 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 4: the biggest fallacy in sports analysis is people say, look 545 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 4: when a certain team runs for one hundred yards. Their 546 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 4: record is blank, right, And I always say it's nonsense. 547 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 4: They are not winning because they're running. They're running because 548 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 4: they're winning, right, They're running this Secon in the fourth 549 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 4: quarter to sault the game. 550 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 3: Way. 551 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 4: So rush yards differential is seven oh five and Seattle's 552 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 4: four fourth but in the first half rush yards, which 553 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 4: would speak to mind that the correlation drops from seven 554 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 4: to five to two eighty seven. 555 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 5: Really, yeah, it doesn't matter that much the. 556 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 4: First yeah, exactly, because what the good teams, you know 557 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 4: what they do. They throw the ball, they mix it up, 558 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 4: they're aggressive, they get a lead, and they run the 559 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 4: ball at the end, and then they say, oh when 560 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 4: they get to twenty five attempts or when they get 561 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 4: to one hundred yards. All right, now, I promise you 562 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 4: I'd revert back to the quarterback stats. I'm looking at 563 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 4: three hundred and five columns. Now. A couple of them 564 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 4: are just having to do is wins and lost scores. 565 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 4: So it's called about three hundred and two columns and 566 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 4: fumbles lost. You know how we're doing all this hand ringing. Yeah, 567 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 4: quarterback fumbles lost has a ninety four ninety four correlation, 568 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 4: which is almost basically it's like saying, do you have 569 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 4: blue gatorade in the jug or purple? It's got next, 570 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 4: and by the way, it's it's a positive. So actually, 571 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 4: teams that are quarterbacks who are fumbling the ball or 572 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 4: winning more just by a sliver. It's just as a 573 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 4: slight correlation of the three hundred and two or three 574 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 4: relevant statistics, the one that has the very highest six 575 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 4: seventy three. Remember now, this is not differential. This is 576 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 4: just quarterbacks. Okay, six seventy three is astronomical correlation. It 577 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 4: is yards per dropback. Let's talk about what that means. 578 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 4: It's not yards per pass attempt. Yards per dropback means this. 579 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 4: If Sam Donald takes a sack that hits his yards 580 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 4: per dropback. If Sam Donald or or Lamar Jackson has 581 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 4: a dropback and then a scramble and he runs for 582 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 4: eighteen yards, that's part of yards per dropback. Yards per 583 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 4: dropback is the number one statistic. 584 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 6: Out of over three hundred quarterback stats. Wow, from the 585 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 6: NFL six to seventy three correlation. Guess what Sam Darnold 586 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 6: is ranked in the number one correlation of over three 587 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 6: hundred quarterback stats by the NFL. 588 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 4: What's he ranked number one? 589 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 2: Number one, number one, number one, number one. 590 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 4: So we've got Funnel's loss at ninety four, we've got 591 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 4: yards were drawback at six seventy three. 592 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 5: And you already said yet interceptions. 593 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 4: Barely interceptions this year is one to fifteen. Guess what, 594 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 4: that's pretty low correlation. That's pretty insignificant. 595 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 5: But it's positive positive yep. 596 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 4: So the fumble now last year was negative, oh, twenty eight, 597 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 4: you'd expect it to be negative. Year before that was 598 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 4: positive two fifteen. I'm not going to go to them 599 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 4: all over the last six years, three of them been negative, 600 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,719 Speaker 4: three have been positive. But but uh, the aggregate is 601 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 4: thirty three to the positive. It's basically insignificant. Now, I'm 602 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 4: not saying throwing interceptions is insignificant, but you're gonna have 603 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 4: to wrap your those stats. I'm not making it up. 604 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 4: They don't mean nothing. There is a story embedded in 605 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 4: those statistics. But let me say it for the last time, 606 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 4: out of over three hundred stats, the highest correlation six 607 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 4: seventy three. Sam Darnold is number one quarterback in the 608 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 4: National pta League for twenty twenty five. 609 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: You get an A plus. This professor gives you an 610 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 2: A plus for that Segment four