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Speaker 2: That could happen. He's going to have Gary jeff eight

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Speaker 2: One last shoutout? This Saturday? Chip Buck, the general manager

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Speaker 1: All Right wild Man, and thanks the sports commando himself

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Speaker 1: joining us on this abbreviated nightcap. My friend Drew Thomas

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Speaker 1: I e. His kids. He's an author America's Last Stand

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Speaker 1: are you, hey, brother.

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Speaker 3: I'm good, going to be with you.

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Speaker 4: In quick update for you, I've got a new book

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Speaker 3: That's Clinton Hope.

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Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely plug that baby, because it sounds like page

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Speaker 1: illegally and was not seeking asylum. He didn't show up

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Speaker 1: for any court date he wasn't going to and then

433
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Speaker 1: was arrested for shoplifting in Chicago. But of course the

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Speaker 1: revolving door for illegal criminals keeps on revolving in that

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Speaker 1: sanctuary city. That was Maria had in the Chicago old

436
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Speaker 1: older woman or older person blaming the victims of violent

437
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Speaker 1: crime to excuse their open border policy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it's so outrageous. I mean, I always

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Speaker 4: think back to anytime you would have a school shooting, obviously,

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Speaker 4: which is horrific.

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Speaker 3: They immediately their.

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Speaker 4: Talking point, if you know, we got to basically ban

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Speaker 4: all the guns and seize all the guns and get

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Speaker 4: rid of the Second Amendment because you know, look, if

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Speaker 4: it would save one life, you know it's worth pursuing.

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Speaker 3: And yet I don't.

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Speaker 4: Ever hear that line from the left when it comes

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Speaker 4: to illegal skilling people. You know, it would save countless

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Speaker 4: lives if you had secured the border or frankly, would

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Speaker 4: allow you know, ICE to do its job apprehending illegals

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Speaker 4: who have criminal records, and that's the people they are

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Speaker 4: targeting anyway. So it's it's completely insane and backwards that

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Speaker 4: you would have sympathy towards illegals who have killed someone,

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Speaker 4: and yet you would, you know, coldly dismiss the murdered victims.

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Speaker 3: Who's an American citizen?

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Speaker 1: All right, here's crazy to me, saying letting ICE help

458
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Speaker 1: at airports will result in citizens' deaths. This was Hakeem Jefferies,

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Speaker 1: this was Chuck Schumer, this was Chris Murphy, all on

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Speaker 1: the Democrats side, on the crazy side of the aisle.

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Speaker 1: The common sense is, you know what, you're not going

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Speaker 1: to fund the TSA agents who are dropping like flies

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Speaker 1: because they've got to support their families somewhere. They'd rather

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Speaker 1: door dash than starve or get kicked out of their

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Speaker 1: apartments or their homes. Common sense is bringing in people

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Speaker 1: to help law enforcement, to help overstretch security at airports.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Look, you have these lines that are two and a

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Speaker 4: half three hours in lenks because of what the Democrats

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Speaker 4: have done, and so I mean ironically, you know they

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Speaker 4: hate ICE too, So of course, now ICE gets to

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Speaker 4: be repurposed to actually try and help these passengers who

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Speaker 4: are stranded and waiting, are going to miss flights and

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Speaker 4: you know, throwing a wrench in the entire economy. And

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Speaker 4: you know they're actually those lines have gotten down to

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Speaker 4: forty minutes in California even just because the condition of

477
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Speaker 4: ICE being able to help, and they're opposed to that,

478
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Speaker 4: and they want to accuse them of, you know, killing

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Speaker 4: people at the airport. I mean, it's insane.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you wouldn't know that that's the case. You

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Speaker 1: hear on our newscast, I think it was at the

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Speaker 1: ten thirty cast ABC News, which we have for our

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Speaker 1: network affiliate, said it's really not shortening the lines. People

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Speaker 1: are still missing flights when the absolute I've seen interviews

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Speaker 1: with people all day long on other news outlets claiming

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Speaker 1: that yes IS's presence alone today at these fourteen airports

487
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Speaker 1: where they've been brought in has actually shortened the lines

488
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Speaker 1: people are moving through where they weren't over the weekend before.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, well they yeah, I mean, it's just denial

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Speaker 4: of reality completely to contee to serve their area.

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Speaker 1: That's the mainstream media, and many in the mainstream media

492
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Speaker 1: are just crazy the way they project these stories and

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Speaker 1: in some cases just lie. It's not even about not

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Speaker 1: being objective, they just all out lie instead of reporting

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Speaker 1: the news. It's amazing.

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Speaker 4: Well, look, Democrats, notoriously and intentionally just create problems in chaos.

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Speaker 4: You know, Republicans are providing solutions, and the Democrats have

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Speaker 4: to pose those solutions because they work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, protecting illegals that you let in and in dangering

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Speaker 1: citizens and their public safety. Crazy, and yet they're doing it.

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Speaker 1: Common sense is deport them, get them out of the country.

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Speaker 1: The people who are threatening public safety, who don't belong

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Speaker 1: here in the first place. Let me give you another one.

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Speaker 1: Allowing the mutilation of children for an anti human fad.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. And Democrats being the Party of Crazy. Generally,

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Speaker 1: I have absolutely advocated for this, you know, in common

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Speaker 1: sense is stop the grooming and mutilation of kids and

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Speaker 1: ban the practice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is one of those issues where it's just

510
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Speaker 4: astounding the lack of morality in your average Democrat. I'm

511
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Speaker 4: just talking about your neighbor, because look, you know, this

512
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Speaker 4: is one of the most insane things that's ever been proposed,

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Speaker 4: and obviously, you know, forced into our schools and elsewhere,

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Speaker 4: the idea that there is no biological reality, the idea

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Speaker 4: that you should be and by the way, they're starting

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Speaker 4: in kindergarten in states like California where I live. So

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Speaker 4: you know, there's an elementary school where I live in

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Speaker 4: a small town of six thousand, and they've got the

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Speaker 4: transgender flag in the window of every single classroom, and

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Speaker 4: they're introducing this idea of ginger fluidity at the age

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Speaker 4: of you know, five and six years old. And obviously,

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Speaker 4: you know in California they are are and you know

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Speaker 4: this is a Democrat policy too. They push is they

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Speaker 4: want to be able to groom your child and lead

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Speaker 4: them to castrate themselves and mutilate their genitalia and have

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Speaker 4: these life altering, you know changes mutilations. Torture is what

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Speaker 4: it used to be called, and if the parent opposes it,

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Speaker 4: they can take the kid away from the parent.

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Speaker 1: Well, let kids be kids. My god, there have been

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Speaker 1: so many of these people who have these kids who

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Speaker 1: have been led to transitions so to speak, in other words,

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Speaker 1: cut off their breasts or cut off other genitals because

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Speaker 1: they think they were born in the wrong body. And

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Speaker 1: that's been encouraged by this far left, crazy wing of

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party, and their parents have been brainwashed into

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Speaker 1: thinking that this is normal and that this happens all

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Speaker 1: the time, when the percentage of people who are so

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Speaker 1: called transgender is so infinitely small year after year after

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Speaker 1: year after year. It's just it's it's an aberration, it's

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Speaker 1: an anomaly, and it's a mental defect, it's a mental disease,

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Speaker 1: and they will not admit that it is a mental

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Speaker 1: illness that has been documented as a mental illness in

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Speaker 1: the literature for years and still is in many cases.

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Speaker 1: Here's another one, Drew, And this is something that President

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Speaker 1: Trump has tried to get into the bill that you know,

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Speaker 1: would would refund and let DHS be fully funded, which

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Speaker 1: many Democrats already voted for, and now are withholding the

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Speaker 1: funds and holding Americans hostage with vote with no ID,

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Speaker 1: unlimited mail in ballots with no time limit. That's crazy,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy. And eighty percent of Americans, at least eighty percent.

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Speaker 1: President Trump says it's higher than that. But in poll

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Speaker 1: after poll, eighty percent of Americans agree you should have

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Speaker 1: to prove who you are to vote. Uh, And that's

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Speaker 1: the common sense. Prove who you are with limited mail

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Speaker 1: in ballots and you and they've got to be certified

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Speaker 1: by election day. You can't keep counting the votes five

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Speaker 1: days after the election's over. That's that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Well, they know.

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Speaker 4: The truth, which is they can't actually win most of

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Speaker 4: these elections if they were you know, legal and.

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Speaker 1: Secure, if they were running on policy.

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Speaker 4: Well exactly, and think about this. Their argument is like,

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Speaker 4: you know, we don't need this because the number of

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Speaker 4: illegals who vote in elections is so minuscule that it

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Speaker 4: doesn't make any difference. Well, you know, if you if

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Speaker 4: you don't have a lot of shoplifters, you don't take

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Speaker 4: the law off the books that it's you know, a

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Speaker 4: into the law to you know, rob a bank just

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Speaker 4: because you don't have a lot of bank robbers. But secondarily,

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Speaker 4: there's no actual way of verifying how many illegals are

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Speaker 4: voting in elections in a state like California, for example.

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Speaker 4: People don't understand this. You know, you have voter voters.

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Speaker 4: So when you go and get a driver's license, and

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Speaker 4: you don't have to be a citizen to get a

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Speaker 4: driver's license, its scouts on or so you check a

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Speaker 4: box saying whether you're a citizen or not. Now obviously,

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Speaker 4: state like California is not verifying much of that.

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Speaker 3: Now here's the kicker. So you know, so imagine, imagine

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Speaker 3: you have a law in.

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Speaker 4: The books, which we do, right that it's illegal to

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Speaker 4: purchase alcohol if you're under twenty one years of age. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so they say, well, you know it is illegal to

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Speaker 4: you know, to vote if you're not a US citizen.

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Speaker 4: Well okay, well if that's on the books. But it's

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Speaker 4: like with the alcohol example. If you're not checking, if

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Speaker 4: you don't require checking IDs to buy alcohol, how are

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Speaker 4: you going to verify how many underage people are actually

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Speaker 4: purchasing alcohol. It's unquantifiable, just like it is in this

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Speaker 4: case with illegals.

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Speaker 3: You're not checking and looking for them.

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Speaker 4: It's very rare that they get caught because they get

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Speaker 4: caught up in some bizarre situation where it becomes clear

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Speaker 4: that that happened.

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Speaker 3: But you're missing one hundred for everyone that you catch.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, as a bartender, there are times that

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Speaker 1: I have to ask if somebody looks like they're under

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Speaker 1: the age of twenty five, it's it's my butt on

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Speaker 1: the line. It's I can get fined, I can lose

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Speaker 1: my job if I if I serve a minor so

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Speaker 1: and anybody.

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Speaker 4: Imagine this, Scar Jeff, Imagine I imagine that in that situation,

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Speaker 4: all you're required to do when you get your driver's

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Speaker 4: license that obviously lists your day to birth.

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Speaker 3: It says whether you're twenty one or not. Imagine if

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Speaker 3: instead of listening your.

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Speaker 4: Day to birth, you just have to get scouts on

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Speaker 4: or when you get your driver's license that you can

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Speaker 4: be sixteen.

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Speaker 3: You just verify are you twenty one or not? Yes?

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Speaker 3: And then they and then they tell you, well, you

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Speaker 3: can't check.

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Speaker 4: The idea anyway in the bar. Oh okay, yeah, we

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Speaker 4: solved the problem, didn't we.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, And this will be important to you as

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Speaker 1: a father, Drew. In just a few minutes, we've got

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Speaker 1: left discounting the reality that an unbording baby is a

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Speaker 1: human being. That's crazy, and it's scientifically crazy, not just

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Speaker 1: from a moral standpoint, but from a scientific standpoint. You've

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Speaker 1: got a heartbeat, you've got fingers, you've got toes, you've

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Speaker 1: got formed, you've kind of formed human being, and it's

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Speaker 1: okay for that life to be ended. Common sense is

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Speaker 1: acknowledgment that all human life is sacred and has to

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Speaker 1: be protected. That's common sense. That's a difference between the

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Speaker 1: two factions that we're talking about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember one of the first off eds I

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Speaker 4: wrote many many years ago when I was first getting

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Speaker 4: into this business, and I was talking about this issue,

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Speaker 4: when I was pointing out that you know, these very

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Speaker 4: people who are pro abortion even up to.

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Speaker 3: You know, infanticide.

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Speaker 4: You know, if I went and grabbed a robin's nest

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Speaker 4: out of an egg and threw it against the wall

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Speaker 4: to kill it, you know that person would have a

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Speaker 4: a you know, a heart attack over what I had

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Speaker 4: just done. But when it comes to actual human life,

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Speaker 4: they will, you know, make all kinds of excuses an event,

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Speaker 4: all kinds of non truthful, you know, a bunch of

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Speaker 4: lies to try and justify what they're doing. And that's

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00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 4: the thing about the Democrat Party where all these issues

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Speaker 4: you brought up, the Democrats used to have a different

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Speaker 4: view of this that was more in alignment with ours.

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Speaker 4: You know, abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. Well

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Speaker 4: now they don't care. Now. They wanted to be taxpayer

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Speaker 4: funded up to infanticide. And you know it's the idea

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Speaker 4: that like having the right to have an abortion wasn't

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Speaker 4: enough for them. It has to be celebrated as well.

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Speaker 4: And that's what's so disgusting. That's where the morality of

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Speaker 4: it's just so gross.

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Speaker 1: Drew Allen, tell me about the new book again.

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Speaker 4: Oh Man, Clinton hoax, Obama coop the declassified story of

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Speaker 4: the Trump Russia delusion, now, you know toldus to. Gabbard

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Speaker 4: was a client of mine. For her last book before

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Speaker 4: she went to the Trump administration, she declassified a lot

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Speaker 4: of documents related to Trump Russia clusion. This is the

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Speaker 4: first book that incorporates those declassified documents and explains in

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Speaker 4: a very succinct way what the Obama administration Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 4: did this country.

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Speaker 3: And there are a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Bombshells in there that people didn't know about before. So

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Speaker 4: you know, this is This really is a must read

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Speaker 4: for people who want to understand the origins of the

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Speaker 4: poison that's still coursing through this nation because of a

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Speaker 4: lack of accountability. And I got all the names named

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Speaker 4: in there, so we know who needs to go to jail.

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Speaker 1: Again. Give me the title so people can look for it.

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Speaker 4: It's Clinton Hoax Obama coop because the Clinton started the

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Speaker 4: Clinton hoax and became an Obama who Clinton hopes Obamaco

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Speaker 4: The declassified story of the Trump Russia Delusion.

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Speaker 1: Drew Thomas Allen, Thank you so much for your time

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Speaker 1: tonight and great success with the book. My friend, we

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Speaker 1: will chat soon. Elaine Culotti, who is an independent running

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Speaker 1: for governor of California, and this situation where they're not

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Speaker 1: allowing people of color into the debate for the primary.

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Speaker 1: No kidding, seven hundred WLW California. I know the weather's nice,

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Speaker 1: I get that, but you want to talk about a

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00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: state that has gone to hell in a political handbasket

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Speaker 1: and the craziness continues. There are a couple of ways

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Speaker 1: to rig elections. One of course, is to require no

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Speaker 1: voter ID proof who you are. Another is to allow

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Speaker 1: mass mail in voting and keep the votes counted until

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Speaker 1: you get the result that you want one party or

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Speaker 1: the other. It's usually the Democrats who do this. Another

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Speaker 1: way is to just cut off access to the viable

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Speaker 1: candidates who are running for an office. Again, you don't

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Speaker 1: live in California, maybe not, but California often signals trouble

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Speaker 1: for the rest of us. And our next guest is

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Speaker 1: running for governor of California as a non political preference

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Speaker 1: or an independent. And at the gubernatorial debate, they're not

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Speaker 1: letting all the candidates on the stage and that sounds

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Speaker 1: very Democrat to me. You know, well, what did they

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Speaker 1: do in the last presidential election. Elaine Culotte joins us.

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Speaker 1: She is a candidate. She is a candidate for California governor,

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Speaker 1: and she's running as an independent or with no political preference. Elaine,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having me on. How's your

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Speaker 5: beautiful state, Ohio?

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Speaker 1: You know what, I actually live across the river in Kentucky,

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Speaker 1: and we've got our we've got our own political issues

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Speaker 1: going on with my representative Thomas Massey being opposed by

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Speaker 1: President Trump, uh for you know, a very famous political

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Speaker 1: policy battle that's been going on with Thomas A huge

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Speaker 1: fan of his.

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Speaker 2: Do I like him.

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Speaker 1: I voted for him every time i've been able to

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Speaker 1: ever since i've been a resident of the Commonwealth, and

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Speaker 1: I probably will this time. President Trump not a fan

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Speaker 1: recently because Thomas is famously opposed of the Big Beautiful

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Speaker 1: Bill and other things that the President has put forward

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Speaker 1: on his agenda list for strictly, you know, because of

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Speaker 1: the debt, and because they Washington just keep spending more

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Speaker 1: and more money and asking for US to provide thirty

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Speaker 1: eight trillion dollars worth of debt. So yeah, I've been

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Speaker 1: a fan of Thomas, and I'll probably vote for him

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Speaker 1: again if he gets out of the primary. So tell

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Speaker 1: me about this debate being sponsored at USC by ABC

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Speaker 1: seven and what they are doing A lane.

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Speaker 5: All right, So, as you know, we have a lot

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Speaker 5: of Democrats in California.

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Speaker 4: No, and yeah, we do have.

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Speaker 2: A lot, We have so many.

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Speaker 5: But you know, I looked at the statistics for from

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Speaker 5: Ohio just just to kind of make this point that

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Speaker 5: over the last ten years, a lot of people have

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Speaker 5: moved into the middle. So even in Ohio, you guys

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Speaker 5: have about thirty one percent of what they call no

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Speaker 5: party preference or independence or not magistered Republican or Democrat.

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Speaker 5: Right here in California we have thirty one percent. So

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Speaker 5: we have about seven six point nine million, almost seven

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Speaker 5: million people that are not Democrats and not Republicans. And

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Speaker 5: so the first what brought it to my attention was

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Speaker 5: that there was some complaining from Democrats that were not invited,

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Speaker 5: and they all turned out to be minority Democrats. It

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Speaker 5: was yes, it was it was Betty Yee, who is pulling,

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Speaker 5: you know, around four percent, and Bossero Xavier Baserro polling

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Speaker 5: around six seven percent. And the other one was, jeez,

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Speaker 5: he's coming tomorrow too. Antonio Viragosa or Villa Ragosa, he

737
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Speaker 5: used to be our mayor, and he was pulling around

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Speaker 5: two and a half three percent.

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Speaker 2: But now people would say that's low.

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Speaker 5: But if you have twenty people in the race and

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Speaker 5: you have one hundred you know, percent of voting, you're

742
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Speaker 5: going to get at the at the highest, you know

743
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Speaker 5: level of points you're going to get, it's going to

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Speaker 5: be eight or nine percent, like a Steve Hilton or

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Speaker 5: a Chad Bianclem, which are our two Republicans that are running.

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Speaker 5: And the reason that they can't get over that number

747
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Speaker 5: is because there's only twenty four to twenty five percent

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Speaker 5: registered Republicans in California. So they throw this debate because

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Speaker 5: they had their little Democratic you know conference or convention

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Speaker 5: about a month ago, and they had three thousand Democrats

751
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Speaker 5: there and they couldn't pick a lineup, so they just

752
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Speaker 5: let them all run wild, as they say, and their

753
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 5: shallow bench is so bad and so many that they

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Speaker 5: thought they'd call the herd at this debate by just

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Speaker 5: doing it, you know, by making crazy rules on how

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Speaker 5: you got in to the debate the debate. Of course,

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Speaker 5: they got caught and it looked really shady. And then

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Speaker 5: I got involved just because I was like, well, wait

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Speaker 5: a minute, you guys are all complaining about the minorities

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Speaker 5: get and what about the seven million people that don't

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Speaker 5: want a Democrat or revolve? Like yeah, And so then

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Speaker 5: I got involved. And when I got involved, I called,

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Speaker 5: you know, the head of USC. My son's graduating in

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Speaker 5: the in the fall or in the i'm sorry, in

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Speaker 5: in the spring from USC, and and I'm just like,

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Speaker 5: you know, I put another kid through USC, And I said,

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Speaker 5: come on, you guys, where's the podium for the middle ground?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: It's bad. You you know, kicked out the minorities, but

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Speaker 2: you don't.

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Speaker 5: Even have independence on the stage. So it's a disaster

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Speaker 5: for them. I mean, it's definitely, it doesn't it doesn't

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Speaker 5: bow well.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: The other thing that's weird that a lot of people

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Speaker 1: in this part of the country don't understand, is it

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Speaker 1: in the California primaries only the top is it? The

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Speaker 1: top two vote getters get in the general election, and

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Speaker 1: that's it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you see it in sixty days, You're right, well.

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Speaker 1: No matter no matter what party they So you can

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Speaker 1: have two Democrats running against each other in the general

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Speaker 1: election in November, that's right.

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Speaker 5: And when you have this many people, you're talking about

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Speaker 5: getting a million votes in you're the governor, you know,

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Speaker 5: it's scary, No, Tice, I have a great chance. For example,

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Speaker 5: I'm pulling at eight percent, so I have just as

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Speaker 5: good of a chance as an independent running in this race.

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Speaker 5: Because on June second, whoever has the most people voting

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Speaker 5: for them wins. And when you have thirty people in

791
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Speaker 5: a race, it doesn't take that much.

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Speaker 1: Well, regardless of who wins. Ultimately, Elaine, can anybody do

793
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: as poor a job as your current governor?

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Speaker 5: It would be really hard, but we've got it. We

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Speaker 5: got a close second running. His name's Eric Swalwell and

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Speaker 5: he was just interviewed. It's all over integraph, Instagram. He

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00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 5: was just interviewed the other day and the bless her heart,

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Speaker 5: the interview was like, well, could you maybe share with

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Speaker 5: me something that you know, think that maybe Gavin Newsom

800
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Speaker 5: didn't do very well? And he couldn't, for the life

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Speaker 5: of him say it.

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Speaker 4: He's like us. Oh, it was like that.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: It was like the Kamala Harris on the View moment

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Speaker 1: where she couldn't think of anything she'd do it.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't do anything different. Oh my ear.

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Speaker 1: Come, So you're gonna have this press conference tomorrow at

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Speaker 1: eleven o'clock in the morning in Pacific Palisades, which is

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Speaker 1: a great example of the poor governorship and the poor

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Speaker 1: leadership not only of Governor Newsom, but also Karen Bass,

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Speaker 1: the mayor of la who was who was out of

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Speaker 1: the country while people's homes burned, and because of all

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Speaker 1: the regulations and all the red tape in California, there

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Speaker 1: are people still who have there been any homes rebuilt

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Speaker 1: that were burnt out.

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Speaker 5: I think there's like eight hundred permits out of eighteen

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Speaker 5: or twenty thousand.

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Speaker 2: It's really terrible.

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Speaker 5: It's really terrible. It's beyond terrible. That's what got me

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Speaker 5: into this whole. You know, I've been running business in

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Speaker 5: California since I moved here in nineteen ninety one. I'm

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Speaker 5: a really successful entrepreneur. I know everybody tip to toe.

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Speaker 5: I have a farm, I'm a farmer, and I'm just

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Speaker 5: like this powistage thing where I have a lot of

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Speaker 5: real estate was so devastating to my portfolio and my

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Speaker 5: life and my life. You know, my kids are here,

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Speaker 5: and I thought that was what in the world am

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Speaker 5: I working for. Once I took a look around and

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Speaker 5: saw everything was burned, I also happened to notice another

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Speaker 5: really important thing, and that's that none of the roads

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Speaker 5: are good. The water doesn't work, the fire hydrants are old.

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Speaker 5: It's awfun just because.

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Speaker 2: Of the fire.

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Speaker 5: It's just sheer lack of maintenance. And if you don't

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Speaker 5: do infrastructure projects for three decades, California doesn't go into

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Speaker 5: the ocean because of earthquakes. It falls into the ocean

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Speaker 5: from just dilapidated to planned obsolescents. Let it fall into

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Speaker 5: the ocean. We're not going to trim the brush. We're

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Speaker 5: not going to fix the fire hydrants.

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Speaker 3: We're not going to do anything.

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Speaker 1: So there's two.

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Speaker 5: I mean we got and then we have Eric Swalwell,

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Speaker 5: who's basically Kamala Harrison hiking boots running for governor.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I always like to say about Swallwell. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is a guy who played Bang Bang with Fang

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Speaker 1: Fang a Chinese spy for how long?

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Speaker 2: And I like that.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to use that. Can I borrow you can

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Speaker 5: borrow my No, you can borrow my Kamala Harrison hiking boots.

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Speaker 2: I'm using your Bang Bang.

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Speaker 5: Fang Fang thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bang Bang with Fang Fang, that was his thing,

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Speaker 1: you know. Or I heard somebody else say Eric smell

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Speaker 1: Ill after his little gas leak on TV small.

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Speaker 5: Well, he's publicly let gas or something. I haven't seen

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Speaker 5: that him go through an entire interview with absolutely no answers.

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Speaker 1: Well Gavin Newsom the prospect that he could actually win

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Speaker 1: a Democrat primary in twenty twenty eight and then be

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Speaker 1: the general election candidate after doing nothing but destroy California

860
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Speaker 1: and waste taxpayers money to the tune of billions of

861
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: dollars the homeless thing is outrageous, The train to nowhere

862
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 1: is outrageous, the fire and the response to it outrageous.

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Speaker 1: All because he looks like a smooth vampire. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I call him count Gabula.

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Speaker 4: I like count Yabula.

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Speaker 5: But here's the thing. I've said this a couple of

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Speaker 5: times on some other interviews, so if you hear it, it's.

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Speaker 2: Not the first time I've said it.

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Speaker 5: If we don't pay attention to what's happening in California

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Speaker 5: in terms of the governor's race, and get some money

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Speaker 5: behind really good candidates writing really good policy, like myself,

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Speaker 5: but not just me. There's other candidates that would blow

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Speaker 5: this place in the right direction. If we don't do that,

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Speaker 5: Gavin Newsom is going to have a free path to

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Speaker 5: never being found out for all the fraud He already

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Speaker 5: vetoed the Homeless Investigation Bill. And if you get a

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Speaker 5: Swallwell or even Mayhew is just as bad.

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Speaker 2: If you get any Katie porter.

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Speaker 5: Is in the debate, if you get any one of

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Speaker 5: these people I know, I'm sorry she is. If you

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Speaker 5: get any one of these people in Sacramento, they will

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Speaker 5: veto and boycott any investigations, and they.

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Speaker 2: Will cover up the fraud.

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Speaker 5: The number one reason to change parties in Sacramento is

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Speaker 5: so that the fraud investigations can run freely and we

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Speaker 5: can get rid of all these middlemen that are stealing

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Speaker 5: all the tax dollars. We cannot do it with the

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Speaker 5: current administration, and we don't have a relationship with the

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Speaker 5: federal side of our income, which would be the Trump

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Speaker 5: administration or DC at all, because Gavin Newsom has completely

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Speaker 5: severed that relationship. He has cut it off the path.

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Speaker 5: He's done nothing to men bridges, he has not kissedl Ring.

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Speaker 5: So we have no discussions. We must get someone in

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Speaker 5: office that can reach across party lines.

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Speaker 1: How ironic is it that I understand Bernie Sanders is

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Speaker 1: the architect of this debate rigging that's going on in

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Speaker 1: California when the Democrat Party completely dumped on him more

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Speaker 1: than once to keep him from being on a national

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Speaker 1: stage or getting a nomination.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean I think that you know, Bernie is

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Speaker 5: a deep blue Democrat. I think he's to the left

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Speaker 5: of left. You know, I know he says he's not,

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Speaker 5: But you know the importance of Bernie and RFK and

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Speaker 5: Ross Row and people that run as independence is that

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Speaker 5: they bring a kind of a chat room, an echo chamber,

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Speaker 5: or a chatterbox of different ideas, and then they take

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Speaker 5: their constituents that they rally by the end of election

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Speaker 5: and they put them to either the Democrats or Republicans.

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Speaker 5: I mean, certainly that's what RFK did. When he became

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Speaker 5: the AHHS secretary of the Trump administration, he pulled at

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Speaker 5: least five percent. Some would argue that that could be

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Speaker 5: why Trump won so overwhelmingly. That extra five percent is

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Speaker 5: meaningful and in an election that side, we just don't

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Speaker 5: we haven't made the overarching change that we need to

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Speaker 5: make in America that we are not a.

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Speaker 4: Two party country anymore.

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Speaker 5: We are a three party country, and we need to

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Speaker 5: start looking at who is going to run the independence

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Speaker 5: in the same fashion that you have a DNC and

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Speaker 5: an RNC. We need organization in the middle. If we

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Speaker 5: have organization in the middle, we will have a much

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Speaker 5: better outcome. And that's not just here in California. That's

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Speaker 5: across the US. You can see it with the breaking

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Speaker 5: and fragmenting of MAC where you have people like Massey

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Speaker 5: and you have Tucker Carlton and Marjorie Tiller Green and

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Speaker 5: ramp all these people that they're not necessarily not Republicans,

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Speaker 5: but they're saying, well, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's a road

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Speaker 5: too far, and the Democrats don't have that. Okay, it's

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Speaker 5: just a road too far. What we got to do

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Speaker 5: is get organization in the middle, and I think it

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Speaker 5: would really help.

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Speaker 3: Us all out.

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Speaker 1: Elaine Kulata, you sound like a real centrist, not to pretend. Ones.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll remember this name. Our time is up.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry this is so short, but Elaine, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for yours tonight.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having me on.

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Speaker 1: You bet you we'll be back to wrap up the

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Speaker 1: cap next