1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: We're going to continue to break down this game and 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: the Broncos big win over the Green Bay Packers. Somebody 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: did want to talk about Riley Moss and one a 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: performance he did, but before we get into that, I 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: did want to ask you about the Brandon Jones injury. 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Of course, we found out in the first hour that 7 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Brandon Jones is going on ir PJ. Locke I thought, 8 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: I thought he played really well, Dave. I thought, ultimately, 9 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: the way that this team has operated in continuing to 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: add through the draft, through free agency, and otherwise into 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: the secondary, there's sort of position to absorb a lot 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: of a lot of these injuries. 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: Brandon Jones. 14 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it's an easy one to 15 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: lose here, but I feel like PJ. Lock, who was 16 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: your starter last year, you could be in worse situation 17 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: with a different different team or different position. 18 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if you put it that way, I 19 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: would agree you could be in worse in a worse situation. 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: I think losing Brandon Jones is a big is a 21 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 3: big deal, right, I mean he he and Hufunga are 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 3: both guys that will impact the game from a physical standpoint, 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 3: both very very tough, but PJ. 24 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 4: I think you're right in this regard. 25 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 3: I mean, PJ is a good player and Pj's had 26 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: a lot of moments here in Denver, so it's not 27 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 3: like you're throwing a first or second year guy out 28 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: there and having to sort of teach him the ropes 29 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 3: of a veteran player. So that in that regard, I 30 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: think the Broncos are lucky. 31 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're definitely lucky to have the depth, but it 32 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 5: will create some complication for a guy like Darren Rizzy 33 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 5: who relied on a lot of these guys who are 34 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 5: reserved safeties to play in those roles. 35 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 4: And we've seen how those reserved roles have resulted into 36 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 4: part retires, long of part retires. 37 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 5: But as of two weeks ago against the Raiders, a 38 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 5: touchdown for Mom and mem so that changes a lot 39 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 5: as far as how many of those guys are going 40 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 5: to play. Let's just say right now we can pill 41 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 5: land PJ Lot to come in for Brandon Jones. So 42 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 5: now that takes PJ Lot off of special teams or 43 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 5: reduces his role, so someone else has to stand up, 44 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 5: and for me, that will put stress on the Broncos defense. 45 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 5: And albeit PJ was started before Brandon Jones arrived. He 46 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 5: hasn't played in a while, so looking at how well 47 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 5: the Broncos defense has played over the past two years 48 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 5: without him in the lineup, that's gonna change things. So 49 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 5: now the communication you have to work with, especially at 50 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 5: home where Hufunga was used to talking to Brandon Jones, 51 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 5: now you no longer. 52 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 4: Have that type of guy. 53 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: Listen, I understand. 54 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a reason why Brandon Jones and Teleno 55 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: who fungered the starters, and you felt like he had 56 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: a pretty good depth there. But once again, it's the 57 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: depth versus who he had as your starter, and you're 58 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: going into a bit of a stretch run. 59 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: I think the nice I guess there's a positive here. 60 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: The silver lining, if you will, is that you have 61 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: this game against Jacksonville's at home, which helps, right, you 62 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: got another game at home with the Chargers in the 63 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: last game of the season. The Chiefs game suddenly doesn't 64 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: look nearly as daunting as it would have I think 65 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: before the injury to Patrick Mahomes. So not that things 66 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: get easier necessarily, but under the circumstances, I think you 67 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: can mitigate it, especially since you have control of your 68 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: own destiny. Here you have your twelve and two, your 69 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: ninety plus percent to not only win the AFC West, 70 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: but also maybe the one seed you can't as Sean said, 71 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: you can't rest on that. You haven't earned any of 72 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: that yet. But I feel like they're positioned well to 73 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: absorb some of these injuries. I think the bigger one 74 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: is the running back like that's the one we talked about. 75 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: It in the first hour. If R J. 76 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: Harvey were to miss time, I guess you would say 77 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: Julia McLoughlin and Tyler Bday and now Cody Schrader would 78 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,839 Speaker 1: be the next man up. But boy, you're talking about 79 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: getting it out of your third fourth string running backs 80 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: at a very important position there too. 81 00:03:55,160 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: Everything you said is true, Well, answer to a long 82 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: winded statement that I think is true. I mean, I 83 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: think I think it's an opportunity to develop a little 84 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: bit of depth in the in the secondary. A safety 85 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: you got to decide. I mean, you you always have 86 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 3: to be looking ahead. If you're comfortable with PJ. Lock, 87 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: and I think they are, but those coaches out there 88 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: have to look ahead and say, Okay, what just what 89 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: happens if this guy goes down? Who's next, and then, 90 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 3: by the way, you got to go even one more 91 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: than that. You got to have a couple guys at 92 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: virtually every position. You gotta have a plan in place. 93 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 3: So this is an opportunity. I mean, I look at 94 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 3: Jail Skinner and whether Devin Key or Jail Skinner, one 95 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 3: of those two young guys has got to step up 96 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 3: and show the coaching staff that, hey, in case you 97 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: need me to play in these packages, I can play, 98 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: and our play will I fall off and I'm accountable, 99 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 3: so that I think that's an interesting sort of thing 100 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 3: to watch in the next couple weeks. 101 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question because I asked this 102 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: earlier about Joddy Baron, and I'm not saying a full 103 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: time role, but is there a way to supplement some 104 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: of and mitigate what you lost with Brandon Jones with 105 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: adding more to Jodday Baron. 106 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can do that. 107 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 5: And the Broncos essentially they've been preparing for this for 108 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 5: a while and this is why you have the level 109 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 5: of depth on the team where you can mix and 110 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 5: match and you can move guys in different positions. Now, 111 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 5: I don't know how much they've had Jaddy Barron in 112 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 5: that role, of the safety position because it changes a 113 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 5: lot of responsibilities, run fits, passing plays. But also the 114 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 5: massive part is communication because when you think about Brandon Jones, 115 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 5: he was the eldest snakersman in that secondary. Even though 116 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 5: Hufuna comes over, he's a smart player. But I can 117 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 5: tell you from my past experience with John Lynch, when 118 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 5: you lose is one of those guys, it changes because, 119 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 5: especially if you're used to one of those guys communicating 120 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 5: a lot getting guys lined up. 121 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 4: Now that voice is no longer there. 122 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 5: That makes things really difficult from a safety position. So 123 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 5: the idea is that these guys with the games that 124 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 5: the Broncos have coming up, it is kind of survived 125 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 5: those games and then start to continue to build the 126 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 5: guys who are backing up. 127 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 4: Like Dave said, look on other rosters. See if there's other. 128 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 5: Guys that you can bring in, because you always have 129 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 5: to think like you're playing chess. 130 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 4: You're thinking three to four moves ahead. 131 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 5: If you wait til a guy gets injured and they go, oh, 132 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 5: we're in trouble now, you're really gonna be in trouble. 133 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: Dave, what do you think about the performance of the 134 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 1: defense Yesterday we talked after the game for a moment, 135 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: and the first thing you pointed to is the fact 136 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: that they held them to field goals on three of 137 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: the four attempts in the red zone out of four 138 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: trips down there, that that really was the difference the game. Obviously, 139 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: it's been the difference in a lot of games this 140 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: year for the Broncos defense. 141 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 4: It feels like, yeah, I think. 142 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 3: I think when you when you look at what they did, 143 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: the Broncos and the number one ranked the red zone 144 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: defense out of thirty two teams, and it showed yesterday, 145 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: and that's that's how you win games, right, I mean 146 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: you forced teams into field goals and that was a 147 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: good offense and they got inside the twenty and four times, 148 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: came away with three field goals and one touchdown. So 149 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: that and I thought, I thought there was more intense 150 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: pressure from the interior part of the defense on Jordan 151 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: Love in the second half. I thought they made him. 152 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: I thought John frankla Myers and Malcolm Roach and DJ 153 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 3: Jones and Zach Allen, I thought they made him really uncomfortable. 154 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: You're you're already going to be uncomfortable with the edge, guys, 155 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 3: but now you're starting to see that pocket sort of collapse, 156 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: and if you look at Passertan's interception. Not that NFL 157 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: quarterbacks are not able to do this, but but Jordan 158 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: Love had to slide to his right to avoid some 159 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: really quick pressure and then sort of rushed that throw 160 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: to get the ball downfield. He underthrew that that pass. 161 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 3: I mean, that ball's got to be over the top 162 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: to Christian Watson. But I think part of the reason 163 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: that it might have been a tad bit underthrown was 164 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: the pressure that he felt to load that thing up 165 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: and get. 166 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 4: It gone quickly. 167 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 6: Quick pressure of voids that loads it up. Home run ball, 168 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 6: middle of the field. The ball is going to be 169 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 6: intercepted by passer Tan on a diving effort. He's going 170 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 6: to be down at that point. That is Cirtan's first 171 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 6: pick of the year. He's still running, but they've called 172 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 6: him down back inside the Denver thirty yard line. He wanted, 173 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 6: did Love Christian Watson. Watson is shaken up on the play. 174 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 6: Cirtan and his defensive mates go all the way to 175 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 6: the south end zone and they celebrate with a whole 176 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 6: bunch of happy fans. 177 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Love is going for the kill shot there but 178 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: they're up nine that play, they're up nine. The Broncos 179 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: offense just went three and out. Yep, And I get it. 180 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: I totally get it. 181 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 5: If he throws that ball more to the right, hash 182 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 5: Christian Watson actually has an. 183 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 4: Opportunity to run underneath it. 184 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 5: But like you know, Dave said, if pressure is in 185 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 5: your face right now, you can't step up in the pocket. 186 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 5: And when I look at where the Broncos are with 187 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 5: these injuries, but you look at where they are, let 188 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 5: me back in for a second from a seasonal standpoint, 189 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 5: from a record standpoint, they've enjoyed something that most teams 190 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 5: have not to this point, and that's being fully healthy. 191 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 5: Think about what Kyle Shanahan had to deal with, were 192 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 5: still dealing with in San Francisco, what Matt Laford is 193 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 5: dealing with after the game. 194 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 4: Due to injuries. 195 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 5: To keep players, this is where the rubber meets to 196 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 5: roll and we're going to see the cream rise to 197 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 5: the top. 198 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 4: How can you overcome not just a turnover. 199 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 5: But a turnover where we're talking about players on your roster, 200 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 5: guys being injured, Guys who haven't had a lot of 201 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 5: playing time all season. 202 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 4: Long, being thrust into the lineup. 203 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 5: That's where it changes because here's another guy we didn't 204 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 5: talk about, Justice Strenaud right with him not being in 205 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 5: the lineup, that's gonna change a lot because the Broncos 206 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 5: have had the luxury of having a three man rotation 207 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 5: at the linebacker position, and Drake Greenlaw has been on. 208 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 4: Somewhat of a piscount. So that's something else to consider. 209 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: Going to head out to the hotline right now and 210 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: bring on doctor Dave Schneider as we typically do here 211 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: on Mondays, and he has, of course brought to you 212 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: by Ortho Colorado Hospital, part of Common Spirit Health. 213 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: Go to Ortho Colorado, Doc org. Dr Schneider. Good to 214 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: check in with you. 215 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 4: How are you. I'm doing phenomenal again. 216 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 7: Happy victory Monday. 217 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, same to you, Doc. 218 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you to start with I mean, 219 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: you have two great players go down yesterday, Micah Parsons 220 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 3: here in Denver and of course Patrick Mahomes an ACL 221 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 3: injury in Kansas City. Are we seeing more ACL injuries nowadays. 222 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 4: Or are we just more aware of the injury. 223 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 7: I think it's a mixed bag. You know, if you 224 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 7: go back and you like pick your brain and think 225 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 7: about Okay, what about all the quarterbacks. It seems to 226 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 7: be kind of a long list. Joe Burrow Pennix Junior 227 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 7: just had his reinjured again. Poor guy. The Daniel Jones 228 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 7: Kyler Murray talked, you know, the list goes on. But 229 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 7: someone actually did good analysis at the University of Missouri 230 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 7: and looked at the rate of ACL injury per minute 231 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 7: played different positions in the league, and it still is 232 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 7: wide receivers and tight ends have the highest rate. But 233 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 7: it just what a weird Sunday to have Mahomes and 234 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 7: Micah Parsons both go down totally different mechanisms, because you know, 235 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 7: when Micah did it, he tried, he got faked out 236 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 7: a little bit, and he planted his left leg and 237 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 7: that was the classic thing where the MCL that inside 238 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 7: ligament and the ACL tour. Whereas with Mahomes, he was 239 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 7: trying to protect himself with that one more stride and 240 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 7: his knee bent in as opposed to out, so I'm sorry, 241 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 7: out as opposed to end. So in Mahomes case, he 242 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 7: tore the LCL and his ACL that outside ligament, and 243 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 7: the pain with both of course is terrible, not so 244 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 7: much because you tear the acl in the center of 245 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 7: your knee. It's the collateral ligaments where and why it's 246 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 7: so immediately painful, and you see the player on the 247 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 7: field grabbing for their knee. Totally different mechanism, but obviously 248 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 7: surgery and end of season for both the guys. 249 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 5: Hey Dog, Well, we've started to see over the past 250 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 5: couple of years are a lot of non contact injuries. 251 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 5: The injury that you're describing right now with Michael Parson 252 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 5: non contact another guy, Rams wide receiver DeVante Ad non 253 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 5: contact hamstring injury. 254 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 4: How does these two injuries defer. 255 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 7: So in Micah's case, you know, it's back to the 256 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 7: old debate, and we've talked about this for years on 257 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 7: this show. How much is it bigger, faster, stronger, more 258 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 7: explosive guys on turf, it's a little stickier. You plant 259 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 7: your foot and the sods are not going to give 260 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 7: way underneath you. Especially playing at the old Memorial Stadium 261 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 7: a few decades ago, we're slipping around in mud. So 262 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 7: those guys that non contact happens because you've got such 263 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 7: great contacting grip underneath your foot. You know, when it 264 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 7: comes to handstring injury, it's a little bit the same 265 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 7: that that force your foot is so heavily planted and geared, 266 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 7: all that force goes up to your knee, up to 267 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 7: your thigh. That's why we have a slightly higher injury 268 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 7: rate on this new artificial turf. 269 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: What's the timeline look like for those players? 270 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: Is that something that maybe they could be back for 271 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: the start of next year or is it going to 272 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: be into the season. 273 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: You think for both of. 274 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 7: Them, I think into the season. We also Adrian Peterson 275 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 7: kind of recalibrated all of our expectations because that man 276 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 7: was back in nine months, playing, legitimately playing, whereas most 277 00:13:55,480 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 7: guys are slowly getting back and you know that first 278 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 7: year kind of look okay and then in the second 279 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,359 Speaker 7: year get better. But I just can't imagine the Patrick Mahomes. 280 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 7: He's not going to play any preseason games next year, 281 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 7: and I suspect him miss probably at least the first 282 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 7: month of next year's season. 283 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: Final question for me. The Broncos place Brandon Jones on 284 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: the IR. They're calling it a pectoral issue. We saw 285 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: Patser Tan miss three games plus I believe, plus a 286 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 3: bye week and come back and play. No way for 287 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: you to definitively know, but you're you're a shoulder guy. 288 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 3: What what theoretically could he be dealing with? And do 289 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: you think there's a realistic shot to get him back 290 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: at some point in the playoffs. 291 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 7: I'm not seeing it. 292 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: You know. 293 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 7: It really comes down to partial versus complete pack tair. 294 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 7: Your pack is a combination of muscle fibers that come 295 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 7: off of your chest plate, the so called sternal fibers, 296 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 7: and then also some of your peck comes off your collarbone. 297 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 7: And atser Tan's case, you can almost take it to 298 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 7: the bank that he tore just some of those sternal 299 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 7: fibers away, but he had much of his peck still intact. 300 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 7: In Brandon's case, the fact that everyone in the locker 301 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 7: room right after the game was saying, boy doesn't look good. 302 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 7: He's the kind of guy that would take his shirt 303 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 7: off and you can immediately see with your own eyeballs 304 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 7: all of the peck just retracting and just a huge 305 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 7: dipod And when that happens, you have to have surgery. 306 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 7: Likely we'll hear that Brendan Jones is having surgery here 307 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 7: in a few days. I would suspect we're going to 308 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 7: hear that he's done for the season. But he'll be 309 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 7: great for next year. 310 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: All right, Doc, always appreciated. Thanks for the insight. We'll 311 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: check out with you next week. 312 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 7: You having congratulations coach Logan yet again another state championship. 313 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 4: Appreciate it, Doc, thank you very much. 314 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: All right, Thank you, Doctor Schneider. Always good. 315 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: Brought to you by Ortho Colorado Hospital, part of Common 316 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: Spirit Health. 317 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: Go to Orthoclorado dot org. 318 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 4: We are seeing another big year. 319 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 5: That's like, can you really talk about it in that 320 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 5: particular way like. 321 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 2: A no hitter? 322 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 3: No, not that they're gonna I mean yet yet to 323 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: be determined. 324 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: Right, Well, Sewan doesn't want to talk about it, but. 325 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 4: No, I and I get that. I mean I I 326 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: completely understand. 327 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: That, which is remarkable because he's the one that sort 328 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: of set the table for it. 329 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 4: But he did that early in the season. But now 330 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 4: it's coming back. 331 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 5: It's is now like his actual thing that he said 332 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 5: is coming to fruition. So he should walk in those shoes, 333 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 5: should he not? 334 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: Held He could be doing that. 335 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: He could be rounding the bases right now using another 336 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: metaphor that's not football, but he could be saying, you, guys, 337 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: remember back in trading camp what I told you this 338 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: was one of the seven teams that I thought could 339 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: win a championship. 340 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: Here we are twelve and two. 341 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: Listen, if if the Broncos migrate through the last three 342 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: games and into the playoffs and do what they gotta 343 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: do and ultimately get to the super Bowl. I haven't 344 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: think Sean during Super Bowl week would when asked, because 345 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: you know he'll be asked, would say yeah, I said it. 346 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 4: See. 347 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 5: I think he would wait to no no, no, no 348 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 5: to after the game, because at that point you emerged victorious. 349 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: No no no, no, no no, Because he's going to be 350 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 3: asked if they get to the super Bowl, somebody is 351 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 3: gonna say, Sean, you said back in training camp, this 352 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 3: was one of six or seven teams that you had 353 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 3: coached that you thought had a legitimate chance. 354 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 4: And at that point, he's got to own it because 355 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 4: he said it. He's going to talk about someone's Internet show. 356 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 4: I'm gonna hear about show small little Internet show, Internet show. Yes? 357 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 4: Internet what? Oh? Yes you said that? Oh, I'm sorry, 358 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 4: probably the way the internet kind of Internet show. Internet. Yes, 359 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 4: it's still the same thing. 360 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: It's just the emphasis. 361 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 4: What'd we saying it that way? 362 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: Internet? 363 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 4: Yes? Yes, I'm going to go walk that dog. Yes 364 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 4: you put the emphasis yes right, all right, I get 365 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 4: it the dog, I get it. The dog. Yeah itself. 366 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 2: I agree. He will be asked about it, especially at 367 00:17:59,160 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: that point. 368 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 4: He's not gonna answer it. 369 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: I think, up Untilden, he won't answer if that question 370 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: comes out. 371 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 4: I don't either. I think you're right. 372 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: But then, and you're talking about like Radio Row Week, 373 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna do they do pressures every. 374 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: Joy how much he hates right now just in case. 375 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 3: I'm sure he's not listening to this show. A matter 376 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 3: of fact, I guarantee it. But if you were, he 377 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: would just hate the three of us for what talking 378 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 3: about the Broncos going to the super Bowl. You know 379 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: how they get superstitious on stuff, right, you know that. 380 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 4: But that's kind of. 381 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 5: The expectations that we're talking about. What the Hay coach said. 382 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 4: This is no time to be reasonable. Yes, no, it's 383 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 4: exact reasonable. 384 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: Is this where he sends a mass text mass email. 385 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: Nobody listened to that show because they're talking about the 386 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: thing I don't want to talk about. 387 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 4: You never know, Yeah, there you go. 388 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 2: He's like, listen right now, everybody turn off the radio. 389 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 7: I don't know where you are. 390 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 4: And then he's gonna fly one of those airplanes with 391 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 4: the message on the back of it say the same thing. 392 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: You know I I and it won't We probably won't 393 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: ask Garrett tomorrow. 394 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: But part of me thinks Garrett, well, he usually gives 395 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: us kind of an inkling of what's being kind of 396 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: more or less said around the building. 397 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: Uh, because remember I asked him about Uh. 398 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: There's the London. London trip was on the other side 399 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: of the Eagles game. Remember, He's like, we are talking 400 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: about the London. He literally gave us word for a 401 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: word what Sean has been saying inside the building. We 402 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: are talking about London. We're talking about the Eagles. Yeah, 403 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: And so this feels like, hey, so Garrett, do you 404 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: guys start talking about the Super Bowl? And Garrett's gonna 405 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: be like, we're not talking about the super. 406 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 3: Bowl R No no player, no player is gonna talk 407 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 3: about Well, even when I played it for the Broncos, 408 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: no one was talking about that. 409 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 4: We were just talking about the playoffs. 410 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 5: Nave As a coach, are are you superstitions or are there 411 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 5: certain things you're superstitious about? 412 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 4: What's what are some of those things? 413 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 3: Everything you can think of everything talking about you know, 414 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 3: what's going to happen in three weeks, talking about hey, 415 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 3: anything that is that is not even on the high 416 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 3: school level, anything that is not directly related to the 417 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 3: next task. I think, and if I think, even maybe 418 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 3: more prevalent the younger the athlete. 419 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 4: But it doesn't take a lot. I think, even in 420 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 4: the NFL. 421 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't take a lot in terms of 422 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 3: getting maybe three or four guys focused on something else 423 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: and then you get you get sloppy, either in your 424 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: preparation or how you execute, and it just you know, 425 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 3: isn't that part of human nature? 426 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 4: As you get closer to a goal that you've set 427 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 4: out to achieve. I mean, you're nervous, you're excited, all 428 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 4: at the same time. 429 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 5: I mean, try to corral all of those feelings at once. 430 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 5: Whether you're a young player or you're veteran players. That's 431 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 5: very difficult because you have so many people locally and 432 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 5: nationally talking about it. 433 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 4: You have people in your family who are asking question 434 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 4: about it, and they're talking to you directly. 435 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: Okay, it's I mean to me an example of this 436 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 3: would be when the Broncos went to the Super Bowl, 437 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 3: right and like Shanahan was the coach. I mean, they 438 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 3: took care of all of the tickets, all of that stuff, 439 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 3: all of everything connected with the game and how many 440 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 3: hotel rooms do you need for your All that stuff 441 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 3: was done in the first week. So when they went 442 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 3: down the Sunday before the Super Bowl business, it was 443 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 3: strictly football, none of that other stuff which is important 444 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: to players. 445 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 5: But all that stuff had been taken care of. But 446 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 5: how do you keep these players away from that information? 447 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 5: Because it's different from when you played and I played. 448 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 5: The social media it's around you all the time. 449 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 4: We had telegraphs. What are you talking about? Oh what 450 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 4: what's that? 451 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 3: Oh my god, you don't even know what. 452 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 4: You got me on that one? I'm sorry? What? Yeah? Right, 453 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 4: you're right, Morris, You're right. 454 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 3: I think I think players nowadays there's more access to 455 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 3: information and like informational overload with players, and some of 456 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 3: that you're not going to be able to control. I 457 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: think college coaches right now are finding that out over 458 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: the last product had for years. 459 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 4: That is hard, almost impossible. It's hard to do. 460 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 5: Because you're trying to overcome your own natural human instinct, right, 461 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 5: because once you have a goal like this and knowing 462 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 5: as that the Bronco has been far removed from a 463 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 5: situation like this for years, and now they're right there 464 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 5: on the precipice. I know there's only three games remaining, 465 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 5: but you're right there. You're knocking on the door. That 466 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 5: number one seed is staring you in the face, and 467 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 5: you're trying to look at it like, you know what, 468 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 5: I don't want to see it. Don't talk to me 469 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 5: about it, don't tell me about it. But you know 470 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 5: it's there, and people talk about it. It's that elephant 471 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 5: in the room. We know the elephant in the room, 472 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 5: but they're being asked to ignore it. And the more 473 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 5: they win games and they get closer to it, the 474 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 5: anticipation for what is to come is like, how. 475 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 4: Do you overcome that as part of your human DNA. 476 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna be an interesting to see how they manage 477 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: that over the next few weeks, because you're in that 478 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: conversation now, and you know, it's an interesting thing today 479 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: as well, because I was talking to Grant about this 480 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: before the show last week. 481 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 2: When the Broncos beat the Raiders. 482 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you couldn't find anybody nationally or otherwise talking 483 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: about that game like. 484 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: It just not even relevant. Who cares Broncos Raiders locally? 485 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: It's a big deal. 486 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: Hey, you swept the Raiders and you got the tiebreaker 487 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: on the on the Patriots. 488 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: It's a big deal. Keith Street going today, complete one eight. 489 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: Everybody is talking about the Broncos, everybody is talking about 490 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: that win over the Packers, and everybody is talking about 491 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: bon Nicks. 492 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: It is It's unavoidable. 493 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 3: Did a guy that wrote the not so flattering thing 494 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: that we read last week about bone Knicks. 495 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: He'll post it tomorrow. I'll let you know. I haven't 496 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 2: seen it yet. 497 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: No, he he that was from that was He's Tuesday 498 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: Power rankings or whatever, So he'll I'm I'm interested to 499 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: see his breakdown. That was a Deontae Lee. I think, 500 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: yeah Lee, Yeah with Ringer. But today and even the 501 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: ones that tend to be very hyper critical of bon 502 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: Knicks were lauding him. A couple of them said, if 503 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: you could play like that, they'll win a super Bowl. 504 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: And those are people that up until this point were 505 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: very very critical of bon Nicks, mostly for the inconsistency 506 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: of some of his performances. And again, I think we 507 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: can all acknowledge that they have one with bon Knicks. 508 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 2: Like bo Nicks has been a big reason why you 509 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: are where you're at. 510 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't think you can play in this era of 511 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: football without your quarterback mattering right where it's it's all 512 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: about the defense and special teams and running game. You 513 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: don't need to have your quarterback make some high end 514 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: place at times. But that performance yesterday, I feel like 515 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: was at a different level. 516 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 4: You agree, I thought he played really well. 517 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 3: I mean, four touchdowns, no picks through for over three 518 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 3: hundred yards. He's at twenty three touchdowns and nine interceptions 519 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 3: on the season. I mean, I think we at times 520 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 3: are unfair in terms of how we grade bone Knicks. 521 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 3: I thought he had a better than expected rookie season 522 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 3: to the point that most people were like, well damn, 523 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 3: I didn't see that coming, not to the level that 524 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 3: he played. Then you add in the summer that his 525 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 3: head coach said he would be. 526 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 4: He's a top five quarterback. And this is one of. 527 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 3: The six or seven teams that I've coached that I 528 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 3: feel like can get to and win the Super Bowl. Well, 529 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 3: as soon as Sean Payton said that in August, maybe 530 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 3: late July, whatever, then all of a sudden everybody's like, 531 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 3: we wait, what, Okay, So then people grade bon Knicks 532 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 3: on an almost pass by pass, series by series, quarter 533 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 3: by quarter, and ultimately quarterbacks are going to have ebb 534 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: and flow and they're going to and they're going to 535 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 3: flat down and then they're going to descend, and you 536 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 3: just try to be as foundationally sound as you can 537 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 3: from that position. And I think this guy, honestly has 538 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 3: been pretty damn good for his year and whatever it is, 539 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 3: fourteen games. 540 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 4: This kid does have a little magic to him. I'm 541 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 4: just saying, when I. 542 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 5: Think about bow Nicks and the criticism, it comes part 543 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 5: and parcel with the fact of who is head coach 544 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 5: OC is because there's so many comparison to Bow and 545 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 5: Drew Brees, and I don't think it's a fair comparison 546 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 5: because Drew Brees was so far along in his career 547 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 5: before joining the New Orleans Saints and joining Sean Payton 548 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 5: and Bow. 549 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 4: His skill set is. 550 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 5: Entirely different, entirely different from that of Drew Brees. Because 551 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 5: Brees would stand in the pocket, he would be he 552 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 5: was my traditional pocket passer, right because when I played 553 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 5: against him, I knew he wasn't gonna run. He wasn't 554 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 5: really that tall, so he's going to stay where he 555 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 5: felt more comfortable than that was in the pocket. 556 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 4: Bo is a different breeder quarterback. 557 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 5: He is like today's quarterback, being able to make the 558 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 5: off schedule plays, getting outside the pocket and both stepping 559 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 5: into that sean embracing that. That takes this team to 560 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 5: so many different levels and heights. 561 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 4: That's not even funny. 562 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 5: Because you had that production and what we saw Sunday 563 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 5: against the Green Bay Packers, and you couple that with 564 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 5: the Broncos defense and their identity of being able to 565 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 5: win games and close them out in the fourth quarter. 566 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 5: That changes everything for me. It doesn't make a difference 567 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 5: who comes into a power field if it's Josh Allen 568 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 5: is a CJ Stroup, It really doesn't make a difference. 569 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 5: If all of those things are working in concert with 570 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 5: one another. 571 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: You realize he's completing almost seventy percent of his passes 572 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: over last month, since the Raiders game, since that Raiders 573 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: Thursday Night game when he obviously had a rough game. 574 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: He played bad, right, I mean you completed fifty percent 575 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: passes the week before hegains Houston forty eight percent. There 576 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: was a trend there and I think people are starting 577 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: to say, ah, right, here's here's where the sophomore slump 578 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: really kicks into high gear. 579 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: And then something clicked something out of that. 580 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: Many buy sixty five percent, sixty five percent, eighty two percent, 581 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: and then sixty eight yesterday and again over that time 582 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: he has five passing touchdowns one interception during that and 583 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: of course four yesterday, which was really everything. And again 584 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: the level of competition is kind of important here because 585 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: you have the Chiefs and the Packers in the midst 586 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: of that. Right, this isn't like and that's where a 587 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: lot of the discussion today was on was like, well, 588 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: we had a hard time knowing how good he is 589 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: or how good he's been because he's playing bad defenses, 590 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: or at least what people assume are bad defenses. 591 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: So you know, the Raiders yesterday. 592 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: By the way, gets shut out by the Eagles, Like 593 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: the Eagles move up and down the field on them, right, 594 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: relatively easy win for the Eagles. They pulled their starters 595 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. That's how easy it win was. Well, 596 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: when the Broncos played them, it was a I guess 597 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: by the box score one score game, right, and they 598 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: played them to a one score game on Thursday night. 599 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: So then people keep measuring up, well, how good are 600 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: the Broncos. Well, this other team that just played them 601 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: blew them out and the Broncos didn't do that. And 602 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: so that's where I think that people get this sense 603 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: that there aren't a very good team. But I don't 604 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: think that can always be assessed in game and game 605 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: out situations. 606 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 4: To you, why do you think you can't do that? 607 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: Well, because I guess, correct me if I'm wrong, you 608 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: guys played. I view every game as sort of its 609 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: own entity. It's it's all different matchups, it's. 610 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 2: All in the moments, right. 611 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: What works and is dominance in one game doesn't necessarily 612 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: mean the team isn't going to figure out and have 613 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: a better game plan the next one for your opponents. 614 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: So like, for example, the Jets got destroyed yesterday, Well, 615 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: when the Broncos played them, that was a nip and 616 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: tuck kind of game out there in London. It was tough, 617 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,719 Speaker 1: It was tough sledding for both teams. Does that mean 618 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: the Broncos are a bad team Jets were good to 619 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that means anything. 620 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: It just means whatever you're going to do to win 621 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: the game, don't you. 622 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 4: Well, I don't see. 623 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 5: Everything in that particular way because you look at common opponents, right, 624 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 5: and now, I'll take a college football approach to it. 625 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 4: If you're playing the same opponents. 626 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 5: I'm looking especially with all things being equal, both teams 627 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 5: are healthy, you're not missing anyone. I want to see 628 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 5: how you match up against that other team, and yeah, 629 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 5: the game plan is going to change from week to week. 630 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 4: It does, right, because some. 631 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 5: Team may focus more on the past than a run 632 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 5: and you're trying to strategize and stop that. 633 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 4: But at the same time, I want. 634 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 5: To look at how great did your offense play against 635 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 5: that defense that was either twenty eight when you play 636 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 5: them now they may be twenty nine or thirty two 637 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 5: when this other team playing. I think there are certain 638 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 5: things that you can get from it. You don't want 639 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 5: to lean or put all your eggs in one basket, 640 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 5: but there's still things you can take away and say, well, 641 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 5: how well did this offensive line play against this defensive line? 642 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: What do you think about that? 643 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 4: Dave? 644 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: When it comes to common opponents, how good the Broncos 645 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: are or not, I. 646 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 3: Think it's realistically, I mean, we do it all the time. 647 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: But I think realistically it's very, very difficult to do 648 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 3: because you're going to I mean, it's just the way 649 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 3: the league works. You know, even lousy teams from time 650 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 3: to time will play really well, yes, and they're not 651 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 3: any good. And I mean somebody makes the play and 652 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 3: they have the team maybe fumbles the punt and you 653 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 3: get a quick score, and then all of a sudden, 654 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 3: even though you're not any good, in fact you're really lousy, 655 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 3: you now realize, wait a minute, we got a chance 656 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 3: to win a game. We haven't won a game like 657 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 3: in six weeks. That interest, believe it or not. That 658 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 3: interest NFL guys when they have it, Like if they're 659 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: in a game and they have a chance to win 660 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 3: and it's been a really tough year, you're going to 661 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 3: get their absolute best efforts. So no, I don't think 662 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 3: you can look at common opponents and draw any conclusions 663 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 3: that are valid. 664 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Nick, but Nick actually agreed with me. Oh I 665 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: thought he. I thought he was agreed. I never agree 666 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: with me, and he was. 667 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 4: No, I was agreeing with Nick. 668 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I retracted the Yeah, oh, now you retraction. 669 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 5: I don't think hold on, No, I don't think the 670 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 5: drugs is gonna allow that retraction. 671 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: I took that as a win, and maybe I shouldn't have. 672 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 4: Well, sometimes has that been? So? We do make mistakes, 673 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 4: don't we? Are you owning up to what? Yeah? 674 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 3: I am owning up to Ryan making a mistake. You're 675 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 3: picking the Jaguars too? Oh boy, here we go. 676 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 4: No, I'm just asking. I'm not for a friend, Okay. 677 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 2: T Warrish just had six times your friend. 678 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 4: No, I'm not doing that. 679 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: Touchdowns? 680 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 4: Nick? Are you sure? I'm sure? Okay. 681 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: By the way, did you did you catch Chris Jones 682 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: on the podium finding out that the Chiefs had been eliminated? 683 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? Oh my gosh. 684 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: I sort of fell for him. Here's here's what happened. 685 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 4: So you still have a fighting chance? Are we out 686 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 4: of the playoffs? Okay? 687 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 2: I just felt I kind of fell for in that moment. 688 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: Also, PR's got to help him, maybe even Andie Reid 689 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: should probably let the guys know before they're going to 690 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: head to the podium. 691 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 5: I don't know the way you guys, we've been officially 692 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 5: eliminated from the post. 693 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 3: Now, that's that's not going to happen after a loss 694 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 3: like that. You've got Patrick Mahomes and the team knows 695 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 3: just toys. Acl Andy Reid is not standing in front 696 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 3: of the team and going, hey, by the way, we 697 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 3: have no shot to make the playoffs anymore. 698 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 4: Have a good Prime rip dinner tonight. 699 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, fair enough. Well so is that PR? Is 700 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: that who was supposed to let him know? What You're no, 701 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: I mean you need to ask about it. You would assume, yeah, 702 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: the player would know that. The player would know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 703 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: not a big deal. 704 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: Well, no, it's it's not a big deal. 705 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: I just sort of felt for him in that moment 706 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: because a lot of people are having some fun at his expense. 707 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I will say this, I would have 708 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 3: thought Chris Jones would have known, hey, we can't lose 709 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 3: another game. 710 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 4: We losed another game, We're out. So that what he didn't. 711 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 5: So that's I mean, for reference, someone in the room 712 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 5: could have said to him, have you watch how you 713 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 5: guys play? And oh, by the way, I'm just saying 714 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 5: someone could have helped you. 715 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 4: You said PR could helped him out. Yeah, someone in 716 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 4: the room like yourself could have helped him out. Like 717 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 4: you just watch your quarterback for like nine months? What 718 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 4: are these days going to happen. Well, no, but he didn't. 719 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: What he was saying is we still have games to play, 720 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: We're still fighting. 721 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 4: And then there were no, no. 722 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 2: You with that loss, you were officially that winning. 723 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, you should have told him, you know what you 724 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 5: guys had earlier in the season. You could have fought. 725 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 3: But well, he actually asked the media are we are 726 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 3: we out of the playoffs? 727 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 2: I thought he was more of a statement like, we're okay. 728 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 4: You still have a chance. Are we out of the playoffs? 729 00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: Oh? 730 00:34:58,719 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 2: Okay, you're right. 731 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 5: So that's when a person like yourself can help him 732 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 5: out and tell him. 733 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: Could you imagine like the Zach seekers or or Zack 734 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: Stevens or Zach Steeves be like. 735 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 2: Hey, uh, Chris here in the back, I'm sorry, you're out, buddy. Sorry. 736 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 5: Why are you saying it with that type of voice though, 737 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 5: just from the back of the room. 738 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 4: Oh that's your back of the room voice. 739 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 3: The room. 740 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 4: I thought Steven's voice. 741 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 2: I love Zach is the best. 742 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: Zach is already getting picked on enough. Sean calling him 743 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: out today during the press conference. 744 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 2: That should be nice. 745 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 5: You probably got an extra ten thousand follows on social 746 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 5: media because that he can actually use that audio. You 747 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 5: know it's his credit. I always calling you out, Ryan. 748 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: Edwards, what was it? Evan Evan Evan with uh, Luca Evans. 749 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: That's great for Luca. All right, we'll come back. I 750 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: want to take this conversation about this. Oh, do you 751 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: want to get in the defense. Ailey Moss gets the interception. 752 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: Sean Payton talked about his DPI today. He had a 753 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: word he wanted to use. We'll all guess. Without his 754 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 1: next