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Speaker 1: The Vikings fan line a Christmas edition. The Vikings win

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Speaker 1: twenty three to ten over the Detroit Lions at us

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Speaker 1: Bank Stadium. Place was bouncing. Fan base was loving Snoop

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Speaker 1: he did what he could and how about that defense

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Speaker 1: as the Minnesota Vikings improved at eight and eight. I'm

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Speaker 1: Nordo from nine to noon. Ron Johnson is with me,

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Speaker 1: and what we'll start here. I have some texts and

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Speaker 1: some talkbacks. Kind of a unique situation on a Christmas

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Speaker 1: fan line. Ron Johnson and I are both operating from

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Speaker 1: our respective abodes this Christmas evening, and so I have texts,

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Speaker 1: I have the transcripts from your talkbacks in front of me,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna hit on them.

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Speaker 2: But let's just kick this off.

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Ron, and what'd you think of today's victory

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Speaker 3: Well, Merry Christmas to YouTube Nordo. Definitely it was slow,

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Speaker 3: So you know I was there at the game. Of course,

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Speaker 3: you know Snoop Dogg at halftime I think was the

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Speaker 3: I was getting text messages. Other people were getting text

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Speaker 2: And I think it just goes to show that the Vikings.

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Speaker 3: I love what Bier Murphy said that our job now

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Speaker 3: and they did a great job of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the defense today creating six turnovers, and that was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was crazy.

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Speaker 3: They were number one in the NFL with five interceptions

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Speaker 2: Then it's Dobbs, Dobbs, Dobbs, Dobbs.

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Speaker 1: Next year, Darnold wins fourteen for US, and here we

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Speaker 1: I do want to continue to laud this defense because Flores,

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Speaker 2: It's Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 1: The Vikings do win twenty three to ten at US

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Speaker 1: It's Minnesota Vikings fan line reading the transcript of some talkbacks.

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Speaker 1: Here again, Vikings win twenty three to ten over the

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Speaker 1: they fall to eight and eight. Vikings improve to eight

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Speaker 1: vikingsmnordo from nine to noon. Ron Johnson is with me

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Speaker 1: virtually we're in in our respective basements. I'm a Chaska resident.

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Speaker 2: It was awesome.

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Speaker 3: take this sack. And that's what it felt like. And

436
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Speaker 3: maybe that was the especially like as the game went on,

437
00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,480
Speaker 3: they're like, look, we're in this man, just don't don't

438
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,359
Speaker 3: give them a pick six like, don't do anything detrimental.

439
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Speaker 2: And look at the offensive line though, you.

440
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Speaker 3: Know, like you're with out O'Neil, you're without darrisaw and

441
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Speaker 3: without Kelly, Like, can you really say you tried it

442
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Speaker 3: out the best offensive line. You didn't have Jordan Mason

443
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Speaker 3: either to help you out in the run game, so

444
00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 3: you know, it was a very he didn't have TJ. Hockinson.

445
00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 3: It was a very bruised and battered offense. And to

446
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Speaker 3: come away with a ten to twenty three win over

447
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 3: the Lions again, you just got to say, man, Brian Flores,

448
00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,959
Speaker 3: you deserve everything you're getting tonight, whatever Christmas gifts were,

449
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 3: whatever sants is bringing you, whatever like bonuses are in

450
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 3: this everything, Like, you deserve whatever gifts you get, whatever

451
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Speaker 3: flowers they want to give you for that, whatever interviews

452
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Speaker 3: are coming his way.

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Speaker 1: He definitely earned it tonight. You know, I I don't

454
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Speaker 1: want to dagger the kid because we've just seen him

455
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Speaker 1: now in three appearances right and one forced into the mix. Actually,

456
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Speaker 1: I would say his most competent appearance has been the

457
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Speaker 1: one in which he had not planned on appearing. That

458
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Speaker 1: would be last week when McCarthy gets the hand injury. Yep,

459
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Speaker 1: and I want to blame it on the old line. Right,

460
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Speaker 1: There's there's this this never ending optimist in me where

461
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Speaker 1: I want to just keep I just want to get

462
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Speaker 1: my chips on the table and put them behind Max Brosmer.

463
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Speaker 2: I can't do it. I can't do it. And he's

464
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Speaker 2: going to get another opportunity next week.

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Speaker 1: If if McCarthy and this, I think it's a very

466
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Speaker 1: very small hairline.

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Speaker 2: Fracture on his hand.

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Speaker 1: However, it was put by the coach similar to a

469
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Speaker 1: bone brew effectively, So is it a contusion, is it

470
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Speaker 1: a hairline fracture?

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Speaker 2: What is it? Will he play?

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Speaker 1: We'll find out, But it's just it's if he plays

473
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Speaker 1: next week, you know. I just think at this stage

474
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Speaker 1: it's clear as we as we get to the end

475
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Speaker 1: of the season here with the quarterback position, we don't

476
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Speaker 1: know enough about McCarthy. I think we can confidently say

477
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Speaker 1: at this stage Max Brosmer is not an answer to

478
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Speaker 1: that question. And then we are going to be spending

479
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Speaker 1: segments on the fan and maybe if we have you

480
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Speaker 1: on at any point throughout the offseason, you have a

481
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Speaker 1: podcast and various things you're doing, You're going to be

482
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Speaker 1: putting mental equity into it the the the veteran quarterback

483
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Speaker 1: that may be in the mix in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have to look at like, so let's

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Speaker 3: go Packers game first, right, you bought that up. There's

486
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Speaker 3: a chance the Packers like fold up and just say

487
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Speaker 3: there's nothing we can do to do any more, you

488
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Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like they're nine to five with

489
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Speaker 3: they stuff to play, so you know, if they can

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Speaker 3: get to ten wins, my guess is the Rams beat

491
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Speaker 3: the Falcons, forty nine Ers Bears is gonna be an

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Speaker 3: interesting one.

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Speaker 2: But I just don't see the Packers.

494
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Speaker 3: Again, maybe they do put a little equity in this

495
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Speaker 3: Vikings game. They try to get to eleven wins, because

496
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Speaker 3: they'd be the eleven five and one, and if the

497
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Speaker 3: forty nine ers somehow lose.

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Speaker 2: Twice, they're eleven and six.

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Speaker 3: So that could you know, vault the Packers up, you know,

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Speaker 3: in seeding wise. But I just if if somehow the

501
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Speaker 3: forty nine Ers win, I don't see the Packers feeling

502
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Speaker 3: like they need to play anybody, you know, because they're

503
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Speaker 3: not gonna jump the Eagles. They can't jump the Bears,

504
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Speaker 3: they can't jump the Seahawks. And then from there you know,

505
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Speaker 3: the between the Bucks and the Panthers who take that next. See,

506
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Speaker 3: neither of those teams can push the Packers out, so

507
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Speaker 3: it's just between the Panthers now and the Bucks who

508
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Speaker 3: get the four which I still think this is a

509
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Speaker 3: stupid mech.

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Speaker 2: I hate how they do this, but whatever, who get?

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Speaker 2: I just hate how they get.

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Speaker 3: You know, they're getting in with the worst record, Like

513
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Speaker 3: you're you're gonna be eight and eight or nine and

514
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Speaker 3: eight and you're gonna be the four seed.

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Speaker 1: Well it's I mean, this is eight o'clock on Christmas.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to verbally joust over or

517
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Speaker 1: anything here, but either the division matters or it doesn't true.

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Speaker 2: But I just I just I don't like that. I

519
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Speaker 2: don't know why.

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Speaker 3: I just always I always when I see terrible teams

521
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Speaker 3: getting the higher seed and hosting a forty nine Ers

522
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Speaker 3: team or something like that, Like, I just that's in

523
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Speaker 3: my opinion, that's just always me. I've always thought receded

524
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Speaker 3: one through seven, But it's never gonna happen. The division

525
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Speaker 3: does matter, uh, and that's not the point of it.

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Speaker 3: So back to the Packers. Packers may or may not

527
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Speaker 3: play the Vikings like so you know what I mean.

528
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Speaker 3: So if you're if you're KOC and you know the

529
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Speaker 3: Packers aren't putting your best out there because to to

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Speaker 3: the John Wolford.

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Speaker 2: Bit, you let Max Brosemurg get another shot at this.

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Speaker 2: I mean you're you know what, you know what Wolfer

533
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Speaker 2: is gonna give you.

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Speaker 3: I think again, we talked about JAJ McCarthy having more opportunities.

535
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Speaker 3: Why does Max Broseman get more like it was three

536
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Speaker 3: it was three net pass the yards. That's terrible. A

537
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Speaker 3: lot of that is sacks, we know that. But also

538
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Speaker 3: like the kid needs to see ye kid needs to

539
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Speaker 3: see live action though, I mean you might as well

540
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Speaker 3: see he's gonna be your back up next year. But

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Speaker 3: my guess is, yes, you need a veteran presence not

542
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Speaker 3: only to push McCarthy, but you need a veteran presence

543
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Speaker 3: to push for that number two spot as well.

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Speaker 2: I think you got to go into you know, OTA's

545
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Speaker 2: at mini camp.

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Speaker 3: With probably five quarterbacks just to get, you know, get

547
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Speaker 3: a feel for what you're going to keep.

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Speaker 1: To go to training camp with four. Yeah, I just

549
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Speaker 1: and I ain't trying to kick him off the team.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. If JJ can't go it's it's

551
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Speaker 1: definitely Max and you want and just again just optimistically,

552
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Speaker 1: you want to have him feel some success on the

553
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Speaker 1: field just hasn't been nearly good enough. I got a

554
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Speaker 1: couple of text lines, Gustin NorCal you need an offensive line. Yeah,

555
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Speaker 1: the offensive line is battered, beating, it's injured, and it's

556
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Speaker 1: awful right now. They were productive in the run game today,

557
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Speaker 1: not so much in protecting Max. But I'm not putting

558
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Speaker 1: seven sacks on Max, however, or on the O line.

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Speaker 1: Max had to make some better decisions. He did not,

560
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Speaker 1: and it led to problems for him today. Not trying

561
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Speaker 1: to kick him off the team, Ron, I'm just the

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Speaker 1: idea of potentially going into twenty twenty six as JJ

563
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Speaker 1: and Max competing for that opportunity, that's just nonsensical at

564
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Speaker 1: this point.

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Speaker 3: Do you do you agree with me in that regard. Yeah, no,

566
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Speaker 3: you can't do that at this point. But again, I mean,

567
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Speaker 3: you talked about the offensive line. You can't put it

568
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Speaker 3: on them. But you got you know, Justin's school as

569
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Speaker 3: your left tackle. Nothing against him. You got Blake Brandle,

570
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Speaker 3: you know. I mean, it's just it's it's just inclusion. Yeah,

571
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Speaker 3: it's just not what you know when you look at Jurgons,

572
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Speaker 3: you look at school like Brian o'neils, he's just this

573
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Speaker 3: is not the offensive line. Kevin O'Connell. Imagine when he

574
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Speaker 3: drafted Donovan Jackson. You know, when he got free agents

575
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Speaker 3: Kelly and Fries, he drafted Jackson. Everybody we all were like, oh, man,

576
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Speaker 3: if Darris Heal can come back healthy, this is gonna

577
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Speaker 3: be a great offensive line.

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Speaker 2: And the healthy has not been the key.

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Speaker 3: I think what is it now, the seventeenth offensive line

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Speaker 3: combination game?

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Speaker 2: In fact?

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Speaker 3: Yea, so it's like seventeen or eighteen at this point now,

583
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Speaker 3: because we're at fifteen a while back.

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Speaker 2: I know that like a couple of games ago.

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Speaker 3: So this is now probably seventeen different combinations of offensive linemen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's.

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Speaker 3: Not a great like line behind, you know, for for

588
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Speaker 3: Max Brosmer or the run game though nothing really worked

589
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Speaker 3: besides the Jordan Addison trip. But I mean I think

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Speaker 3: Aaron Jones did everything he could do, uh, bouncing off tackles,

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Speaker 3: you know, yards after contact. But Jordan Addison was the

592
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Speaker 3: quote unquote offense MVP with that spark plug he did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you're you're dead on jones By by

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Speaker 1: volume gets to fifty three volume of Carrey's That is,

595
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Speaker 1: it was sub three per Ty Chandler.

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Speaker 2: You see him.

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Speaker 1: He returns to the mix, of course, because Jordan Mason's

598
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Speaker 1: not in the mix three point four a clip. He

599
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Speaker 1: just got seven tots himself. So uh, the the the

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Speaker 1: five point six average is misleading. The buck fifty eight

601
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Speaker 1: in general is a bit misleading because of the Addison

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Speaker 1: big time uh play. But uh, but yes, all in

603
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Speaker 1: all the seven sacks, uh, the pedestrian per carry numbers.

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Speaker 1: You don't get the push up front that you need

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Speaker 1: because of the battered and beaten group and uh and

606
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Speaker 1: then the kid uh still appears to not be ready

607
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Speaker 1: for the bright lights.

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Speaker 2: But that's why you have a defense. That's why you

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Speaker 2: have a kicker.

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Speaker 1: How about Reker just the season and just the short career,

611
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: but productive career he's had as part of this as well,

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Speaker 1: it's Vikings fan line, Vikings win twenty three to ten.

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Speaker 1: Ron Johnson's here, Max Fuller's here on his freaking birthday.

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Speaker 2: What a saint he is. I'm Nordo from nine to noon.

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to you, and we'll continue this conversation around

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Speaker 1: the Corner on KFA N and the Minnesota Vikings Audio Network.

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Speaker 5: Wolves Back Here the Hell Live tonight on the Minnesota

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Speaker 5: Timberwolves channel on the free radio.

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Speaker 1: App Vikings fan Line. I got this from Evan in Byron.

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Speaker 1: He says, Ron, you being a player, you know, what

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Speaker 1: do you feel like or do you feel like winning?

622
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Speaker 1: Potentially going on a five game winning streak to end

623
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Speaker 1: a loss season? Does that carry any momentum for the

624
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Speaker 1: team heading into next season. I'd love to know your thoughts.

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00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: We've talked about this momentum conversation a bit and again

626
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Speaker 1: Vikings fan line.

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Speaker 2: Well, Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Twenty three to ten the final a US Bank Stadium

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Speaker 1: Vikings beat the Kiddies. Kitties knocked out of the playoffs

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Speaker 1: because of this loss today and the Vikings are now

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Speaker 1: eight to eight, winners of four in a row, and

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Speaker 1: to Evan's point, if they win next week in the

633
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Speaker 1: Border Battle, it would be five straight to end the season.

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Speaker 2: Ron, We've talked about momentum.

635
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Speaker 1: Momentum maybe for individuals matters, but momentum as a team

636
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Speaker 1: is tough because there's so much turnover, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so for a coaching staff, you know, I

638
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: think it's more so of the evaluation of the players

639
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 3: is where these wins are coming. You know, they're able

640
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: to evaluate these guys to who's coming Like Jalen Redman,

641
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Speaker 3: I mean unless I don't know, what could ever, you know,

642
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 3: not solidify him being on that defensive line now, the

643
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Speaker 3: way he's playing like guys like that, These those wins

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Speaker 3: are what I think.

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Speaker 2: He gets a guy, don't you think, I mean he might.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he gets a salary, Yeah, like a

647
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: big salary. He could probably eliminate one of the big

648
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 3: salaries because they're like, look, we're not paying this guy

649
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Speaker 3: as much, and now we can go out and take

650
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Speaker 3: one of these big salaries and maybe bring in two

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Speaker 3: other guys in free agency.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that'd be sweet.

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Speaker 1: Momentum is tough maybe for the team, but for the

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Speaker 1: individual it can matter and Jalen Redman's a great example

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Speaker 1: of it with this season that he's had to my

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Speaker 1: next question and then we'll pause again.

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Speaker 2: The Vikings by winning today.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of been a talker throughout the week, and

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Speaker 1: rubes whether it's texting the text line during nine to noon,

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Speaker 1: but several have mentioned it as part of even Vikings

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Speaker 1: fan line six four six eight six. The text line,

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Speaker 1: here's the issue with winning. So I can't go and

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Speaker 1: tell veteran players like, hey, if you tank, we'll get

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Speaker 1: a better draft pick, stuff like that. They're playing for money,

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Speaker 1: We've talked about this. They're playing for pride, they're playing

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Speaker 1: for putting good things on tape.

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Speaker 2: So the idea of tanking is preposterous. The ill effect of.

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Speaker 1: Winning, and some fans are focused on this is the

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Speaker 1: fact that by winning today, the Vikings improved to third

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Speaker 1: in the NFC North. Okay, well, the team's won four

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Speaker 1: in a row. We're feeling good. Merry Christmas, this is awesome,

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Speaker 1: go home and open some presents. Well, what happens now

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Speaker 1: is that your schedule changes slightly, so you're still playing

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Speaker 1: Bears Lions in Green Bay a few times. And I

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Speaker 1: don't have the full schedule in front of me, but

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Speaker 1: I know we got the we got Saints and Bucks.

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Speaker 1: In the NFC South, we got Patriots and Jets. Those

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Speaker 1: are those are some road games that we're going to

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Speaker 1: be seen in addition to our divisional games. But the

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Speaker 1: third place division in the division means that for three games,

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Speaker 1: for instance, in the NFC West, we could go from

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Speaker 1: the fourth place team the Cardinals playing those playing them

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Speaker 1: on the road, to either playing the Rams, Niners, or Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: Going from fourth to third place in the NFC East

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Speaker 1: means that instead of playing the Commanders or Giants, maybe

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Speaker 1: we're playing somebody else. You get where I'm going with

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Speaker 1: this South, Instead of playing the Titans, we're playing somebody

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Speaker 1: else in the South. The frustration around or the implications

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Speaker 1: of a lost season but winning at the end causing

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Speaker 1: that schedule to maybe look a bit more difficult in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, where teams like the Patriots, for instance,

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Speaker 1: have feasted on a fourth place schedule as they find

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Speaker 1: themselves near the top of the AFC table this season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so like for the fans at home to kind

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Speaker 3: of give you those because you said the teams, right,

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Speaker 3: So three seeds all the way through, you know, depending

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Speaker 3: on how this schedule shapes out, you got Dolphins, Bengals,

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Speaker 3: Coach Chiefs, Commanders, Falcons, and you kind of hit the

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00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 3: nail on the head with those, right, And then you

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00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 3: got the and you got the four seeds because you know, sorry,

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Speaker 3: and you could you could have the Rams, forty nine

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Speaker 3: Ers or Seahawks. We don't know how that's it's probably

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Speaker 3: not Seahawks, but could be rammed for forty nine ers.

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00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: But then you look at the four seeds and this

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Speaker 3: is where you talk about okay, and this is more

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Speaker 3: from our side, media side, Jets, Browns, Titans, Raiders, Saints, Giant, Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like eight wins to me, you know, like that's

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Speaker 3: our seven wins. That's where From a media perspective, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you could say that. From a player perspective, no, we

710
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Speaker 3: don't care. Like players don't care. They're not thinking about that.

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00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 3: They're like, look, when we come back next year, we're

712
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: going to be better. You know, they're looking at like,

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Speaker 3: whoever is just finished third? Do they want to play

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Speaker 3: the Vikings next year because of Jaj McCarthy. So I

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Speaker 3: don't think the players care one bit or even think

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00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: about that. But from a media side, yeah, you look

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Speaker 3: at those potential teams, but also who's going to turn

718
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: around and be the Bears? You know, the Bears went

719
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Speaker 3: from worse to first? Could that happen to some of

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Speaker 3: these fourth place teams? I guess we'll see where the

721
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Speaker 3: coaching carousel takes us, because we don't know who's gonna

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Speaker 3: you know, be the head coaches next year some of

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Speaker 3: these teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your perspective on that because that's something I mean,

726
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: you can't help it. And again I just the rubin

727
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: me has never actively rooted for my favorite team to lose.

728
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Speaker 1: But I understand the negative implications we've discussed, not just

729
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: the draft position. Vikings doing themselves no favors from a

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00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: you know, I think they're picking fourteen or fifteen right now,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's fifteen. Does this mean now that they're picking sixteen,

732
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Speaker 1: will they be picking seventeen if they beat the Packers.

733
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Speaker 1: I don't really play that, but just enjoying, specifically on

734
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Speaker 1: the defensive side of thing, what we saw today at

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Speaker 1: this stage, what we're gonna do is we're gonna say

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Speaker 1: good night to the Vikings Greater Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: The next time you're going to hear from us next weekend.

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Speaker 2: So that's gonna be a little bit of a layoff.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the holiday weekend, the Christmas weekend as it is,

740
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Speaker 1: but a week from Sunday next weekend, we're gonna have

741
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Speaker 1: the border battle and it's Packers coming to town.

742
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Speaker 2: And now the.

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Speaker 1: Packers have been secured a playoff spot frankly because of

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Speaker 1: what happened today, but in the end, the opportunity to

745
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: beat Green Bay regardless of records. That's always a fun

746
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: time and a great way to end the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five regular season.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Max Buller producing Happy Birthday, Max. Thank you

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Speaker 2: to Ron.

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Speaker 1: We're going to continue this conversation on the flagship one

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Speaker 1: from my basement. It's a Christmas edition of Vikings Fan Line.

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Speaker 1: Vikings win twenty three to ten over the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 1: Twenty three to ten, the final at us Banks Stadium

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Speaker 1: today the Vikings improved to eight and eight.

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Speaker 4: What up?

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas everybody, Thanks for tuning into the fan. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for supporting Vikings Football any of our shows on

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Speaker 1: the fan. I just hope you're having an awesome Christmas Day.

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Speaker 1: Max Fuller producing Happy birthday to him. By the way,

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Speaker 1: he turns thirty two today, he looks twenty five. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: He's ageless. And Ron Johnson joins me, I'm Nordo from

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Speaker 1: nine to noon. I'm forty one and I look fifty.

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Speaker 1: So just got of different paths I guess we've been taking.

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Speaker 1: But Ron Vikings win twenty three to ten and through

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Speaker 1: this conversation on the Greater Audio Network, and I'll bring

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Speaker 1: it here a few more segments on a Christmas Day

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Speaker 1: fan Line. I've just been getting a ton of this.

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Speaker 1: This from the talkback machine, Danny from Jordan. Please give

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00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: a blank check to b Flow. We cannot lose him

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Speaker 1: in my book. This is what Danny says. He's even

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00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: more important than Koc and I like Koc, but but

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00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: Brian Flores is well, it's a contract here from mister

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Speaker 1: Flores and what do we do, mister Ron Johnson, what

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00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: do we do? And you know this of course is

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00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: now on the heels of the six takeaways today and

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Speaker 1: and just the dynamo defensive performance that we saw from

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Speaker 1: the Vikings.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the best thing about coaches is there's no salary cap.

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00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 3: So I kind of agree. You pay him like a

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Speaker 3: head coach, like you are a billionaire organization.

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Speaker 2: Paying a coordinator.

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Speaker 3: Because we've seen coordinators in the past get paid this

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00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 3: money when they're worth it. You gotta pay him, you know,

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00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: I don't know what that number is, two three million.

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00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: You got to treat him like a head coach and

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00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: really make it worth his while to not take maybe

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00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: an offer of two to three million from a you know,

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00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: from an organization that he might only be there for

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00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 3: two or three years, because it's not going to go anywhere.

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00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 3: You know, you look at like Robert Salad with the Jets,

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00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 3: you know, like he's right back to the forty nine

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Speaker 3: ers and Alwa's right back to being one of the

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Speaker 3: candidates this year. Well that you know, it's gonna get

812
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 3: calls because of his defense. So you know, if you could,

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Speaker 3: if you could stay around and be a coordinator at

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Speaker 3: three million dollars, why not? Why why why take the

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Speaker 3: stress of being a head coach if it's not the

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00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: right situation. And when I say right situation, like I

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Speaker 3: see like a retirement of Mike Tomlin and Flores just

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00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: steps into the Steelers role as head coach, Like that's

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Speaker 3: that's walking into a situation of a stable organization.

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Speaker 2: Uh, that's willing to take him on.

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Speaker 3: But other than that, some of these other teams looking

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Speaker 3: for head coaches may or may not be a good situation.

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Speaker 1: The you know the way that you and and that

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Speaker 1: was I've talked about this with you Ron that that

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00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 1: was always my thought when he was the assistant post Miami.

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Speaker 1: He was the assistant for one season with Tomlin. I'm

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Speaker 1: just thinking that's just obvious that the baton would be

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Speaker 1: tossed at some point from Tomlin now to to Flores,

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Speaker 1: but he comes here just to just to clarify though

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Speaker 1: from from my standpoint, you mentioned the two three million

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Speaker 1: You know that that maybe keeps him from peaking too

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Speaker 1: far over the fence.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: But but we would be in lockstep though ron if

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Speaker 1: I said, uh, the only the only threat to Flores

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Speaker 1: not being here, the only threat to the Vikings not

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Speaker 1: finding terms on some sort of new deal to to

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Speaker 1: have him remain as the defensive coordinator is a head

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Speaker 1: coaching job, right. Oh yeah, yeah, I think the concept

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Speaker 1: of him going to another team is preposterous, as like

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00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 1: a lateral move, the only.

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00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 3: Like again, the only lateral move that makes sense again,

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00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: as a team that wants to give him like the

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Speaker 3: assistant head coach role or the head coaching waiting role,

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Speaker 3: and he's the coordinator for like the Chiefs, you know,

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Speaker 3: with Andy Reid or somewhere like that. Because there are

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Speaker 3: some teams that have hired some coordinators that probably should

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Speaker 3: be coordinators because they were head coaches that it didn't

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00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 3: work where they were at. You know that, I know

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00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 3: it happens. It's the recycle of a lot of these

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00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 3: coaches that a lot of people are like, man, why

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Speaker 3: not give some of these new blood coaches the opportunity.

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00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 3: But you know, I again, if it's a lateral move,

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00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 3: it's a lot or move for a lot of money.

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00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: If it's a if it's a five hundred thousand million

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00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: dollar increase, I don't, I don't. I don't see that

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Speaker 3: as lateral, especially when you say, hey, you're gonna be

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00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 3: the assistant head coach as well. You're gonna have this

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00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 3: duty to do X, Y and Z when the head

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Speaker 3: coach can't do it. That's the only other way if

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00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 3: there's a way to get up. But you know, I

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Speaker 3: think the other thing, the elephant in the room is

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Speaker 3: still the Miami Dolphins situation.

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Speaker 2: You know, when you're when you're when you have.

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Speaker 3: A lawsuit against the NFL, it's gonna be tough for

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Speaker 3: a lot of owners to turn on another owner and say, hey, look,

867
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 3: let's just give them the money. Let's just make them

868
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 3: our head coach, and we don't care about this lawsuit.

869
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 3: I think, you know, when you have to be deposed

870
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 3: and you have to say a lot of stuff that

871
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: happened within organizations in order to win your case, that

872
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 3: that might scare off some teams to one to make

873
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 3: them the head coach. And again, I think we talked

874
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 3: about this before. If a head coach were to say

875
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: hey or sorry, an owner, hey, we'll we'll hire you

876
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: as head coach, but can you drop the suit. I

877
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: don't think you want to be the head the owner

878
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 3: that makes that call, you know, because then your name's

879
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 3: going to end up out there as well from like

880
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: you know, Tom Pellisero is going to say, you know,

881
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 3: from a source.

882
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: I've heard that this.

883
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: You know, a team has told Brian Flores they'll hire

884
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 3: them if they you know, if blah blah, and then

885
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 3: eventually that source you know, tells what actually what team

886
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: it was. Uh, you don't want to be a you

887
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 3: don't want to be a part of that. You don't

888
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 3: want your your ownership name popping up on Adam Schefter

889
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 3: or Tom Pella Sero's tweets.

890
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 1: Well, I think given the situation though, people have learned

891
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: not to tell Bill Belichick what's going on in their

892
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 1: coaching situations. Given that he texted the wrong the wrong

893
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: Brian as part of the Giants.

894
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: White Brian that you gotta sorry he texts black Brian,

895
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 3: you gotta you know he had the wrong Brian, you know,

896
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, he's got to save their fend numbers in

897
00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 3: the phone the right way.

898
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: You gotta know which I ain't got the job, do you?

899
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: What kind of dummy are you? People on your phone

900
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: like that?

901
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 5: Ron?

902
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: No, No, I know who.

903
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 3: I use last names so I know they or I'll

904
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: say like so and So's mom or so and So's dad,

905
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 3: so so I know, like, oh, that's that's Emma. But

906
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: that's that's that's so and So's mom. That's Emma's daughter

907
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 3: or something, you know, like I just I'm not white

908
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 3: Eric in your phone. No, no, no, you're Nordal. There's

909
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: only one Nordo out there in the world.

910
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: But again Nordal. Here's the thing.

911
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 3: If you interview two Bryan's right, that's how that's how

912
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 3: like off the Giants are you interview two Bryan's Why

913
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: would you say, oh, I think Brian's gonna get the

914
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: job like Fostros. Why would you do that unless they

915
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: were trying to prove that Belichick can't hold water, Like

916
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: that's the only other reason, like they they threw him

917
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 3: under the bus in order to like make him look

918
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 3: like he can't hold a secret.

919
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: I don't know that mean and somehow that Giants the

920
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: GM there. I think it's Joe Shane somehow he's still around.

921
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, after that Hard Knocks, I don't know how he's

922
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 2: got something on the Mara family.

923
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: He must, I mean, I don't know how he hasn't

924
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: talked himself out of that building.

925
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 2: But that's crazy between.

926
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: Sa Kwan stuff and hard Knocks, like you know, the

927
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 3: the Brian and Brian.

928
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's.

929
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: Bad, unbelievable, but Brian Flores still remains our defensive coordinator

930
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: for the moment. I would anticipate the Wolfs and everybody

931
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: involved would be efforting his stay here in Minnesota as

932
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: he is put together a freaking masterpiece on a Christmas Day,

933
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: a masterpiece of a defense. And it frankly the plug

934
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: and play pieces, you know, whether it's Jay Ward filling

935
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 1: in in spots. You think about Grenard being out of

936
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: the mix now with the shoulder Mittellus, he grinded through

937
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: his own shoulder situation. He's done for the season. And

938
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it doesn't completely, it doesn't matter. Certainly

939
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: the upgrade and talent and spots plays the part in this,

940
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: but his ability to work with what he has and

941
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: finds success over in the in the grand scheme, the

942
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: global view of it, it's it's just terrific and it's

943
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,479
Speaker 1: awesome to have him on our team.

944
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean with with the number, like I said,

945
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: the number of guys out he take, he does less

946
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 3: with more at times, you know, and we keep talking about,

947
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 3: you know, no Mattella's but THEO Jackson and then Harrison

948
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 3: Smith can't bind them leaves, you know, Garnar goes out,

949
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: you know, Dallas Turner, you know, turns it up, Jayleen.

950
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: You know, Jalen Redman becomes a star. Yeah, I mean,

951
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 3: he's he's he's put and again the Lions were number

952
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 3: one in the NFL for offensive turnovers and they had

953
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 3: their worst They almost you know, doubled you know, the

954
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 3: production now in one week that they have all season.

955
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: Like that's crazy.

956
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: Uh, let's do this the Uh.

957
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 1: The Vikings win twenty three to ten over the Detroit

958
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: Lions at US Bank Stadium today. Two more segments of

959
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 1: fan Line to Go. When we were return, I'm gonna

960
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: give you our local Chevy Dealers drive of the game.

961
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: Hint, hint.

962
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: It was a short drive and it was an awesome

963
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: play that led to seven points and maybe the dagger

964
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: of the game for your minute to Vikings. As they

965
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: beat the Lions, they kicked the kiddies out of the playoffs.

966
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 1: How about that on a Christmas and the Vikings improved

967
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: to eight and eight. Ron Johnson's here on Nordo. We'll

968
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: continue Vikings fan line next on the fan. Welcome back

969
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: Vikings fan line to the text line six four six

970
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: eight six Bradshaw and Brian KFA text line people checking

971
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 1: in on Christmas. Merry Christmas to all of you, Thanks

972
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: for listening to the fan. And I'm looking at a

973
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 1: text from Paul here. As the Vikings beat the Lions

974
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: twenty three to ten, they improved to eight and eight,

975
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: and they if they finished the season with a five

976
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: game win streak that will include a Border Battle victory

977
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: next weekend, that would be five consecutive for the Purple,

978
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: which leads to Paul's text, and he was quick to

979
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: note happy birthday to Max by the way, so yes again,

980
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: happy birthday to Max. Appreciate him working on Christmas with

981
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: us on his b day, So hype. Paul notes if

982
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: the Vikes beat the Packers next Sunday, and if they

983
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: would have beaten the Bears at home weeks ago by

984
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: not making in all caps.

985
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 2: He's yelling at me one stupid special team's mistake.

986
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: Ron. That means they would finish ten and seven. Would

987
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: they be in this season's playoffs? And that's Paul and Fridley. Well,

988
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this thing and I didn't want to

989
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: do this, Paul, and I don't want to do this.

990
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: Ron to run through this exercise and you get this.

991
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: You played this game, Ron at a high level for

992
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: a long time. That one play or one game, you

993
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 1: can never look at it that way because of how

994
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: many different people are participating in this game and all

995
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: the factors into it. But he is actually correct. So

996
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: if the Vikings had beaten the Bears, they would be

997
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: nine and seven at this particular point. The Green Bay

998
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: Packers at nine to five and one. Let's say, if

999
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: the Packers lose to the Ravens this weekend, this is

1000
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: where correct they got to lose to this to the

1001
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: Pack to the Ravens this weekend, they'd be nine six

1002
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: in one. Well, if you beat them, you're ten and seven,

1003
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: and they would be nine seven and one. The Minnesota

1004
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: Vikings would be in the playoffs. If Devin Duverney had

1005
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: not returned that kick fifty six fifty eight yards whatever

1006
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: it was, and then their kicker, I forget his name.

1007
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: I think a young kid, maybe a rookie, walked off effectively.

1008
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: On the purple.

1009
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: So that's how close these seasons go. I don't want

1010
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: this is silver lining season, ron. I don't want to

1011
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 1: make it that in this case, given the fact that

1012
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 1: we've made a meal of the quarterback situation in twenty

1013
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: twenty five, there have been myriad injuries. If we did

1014
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: get into the dance, it's chip chair and chance season, certainly,

1015
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: but in the sense of making a run, very difficult

1016
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 1: to prognosticate that given everything that we've seen. But technically,

1017
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: as to Paul's point, if we don't let Devin Duverney

1018
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: do his thing and you get out alive with a

1019
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: win against the Bears, the fact that or is it Piniero,

1020
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: or is it Cairo.

1021
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 3: Santos Heros, it is Kyros. So, Yeah, he made a

1022
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 3: forty eight yard field goal.

1023
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: He made a forty eight yard field goal. Thank you.

1024
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: I I filibustered long enough for you to find that

1025
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: particular stat the that's how that's how these seasons roll

1026
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 1: sometimes ron is one play or one game can turn

1027
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: a non playoff team into a postseason run potential, or

1028
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 1: a playoff team into a watching everybody from your couch.

1029
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean so, yeah, we can't say because you know,

1030
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 3: we know we talked about the butterfly fed right the

1031
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 3: whole what happens.

1032
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 6: As special team's his fault, that's what that's what, Yeah,

1033
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 6: because it could have been other stuff like like anything

1034
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 6: else could have happened, Like I get it, but but

1035
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 6: to the same token of that, like you kick it

1036
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 6: because we were talking about that, right, kick it out

1037
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 6: of bound, you put it at the forty or something

1038
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 6: like that, or you don't give him a chance to

1039
00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 6: return it.

1040
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: But now, what is it?

1041
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: I think we said it was at thirty yards put

1042
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 3: them in the field goal range.

1043
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: So two explosives. Yeah, we could.

1044
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 3: We could play that game too, because then if they

1045
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 3: kick it out of bounds, so let's see, let's kick

1046
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 3: it out of bounds at the forty, they get two

1047
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 3: big plays and they kick the field goals. Then we're

1048
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 3: all saying, like, man, the special team sucks. Why did

1049
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 3: you kick it out of bounds? So I think it's

1050
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 3: one of those double edged swords. Like, I think either way.

1051
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 3: I just think the way the fate would have happened

1052
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 3: this year with the Bears, they would have won that game.

1053
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: I just think at that moment, whether.

1054
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: You kick it out of bounds, you kick it to

1055
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 3: the guy at the end of the day, just kick

1056
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 3: it and cover like kick it and cover like that.

1057
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: That's that's where you kind of wonder.

1058
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 3: And I don't know why, but we talked about like

1059
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 3: lack of explosive plays with this new kickoff rulee, I

1060
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 3: still see teams actually finding ways to get some plays

1061
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 3: out of this, So I don't I don't know what

1062
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 3: else fans can say to that, but it's I think

1063
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 3: either way, that game was going to be a loss.

1064
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: Like the season is going the way it was going

1065
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 3: to go. The Bears are having a historical magic season.

1066
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 3: You know, nobody expected Kleb Williams have a turnaround like

1067
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 3: he did and they're going to the playoffs.

1068
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: No, I agree with you in the regard, and it

1069
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: can't be this simple, But in some ways, it's just like,

1070
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: did we have we earned it? If I told you

1071
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 1: that the Vikings were a playoff team, would that make

1072
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: sense based off of what we see and it's my

1073
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: favorite team. I want them in the postseasons obviously, but

1074
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, I don't know if they earned

1075
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: it in twenty twenty five. You know who earned it today,

1076
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: Our local Chevy dealers, who have supported us via fan

1077
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: line all season long. Love our local Chevy dealers. They

1078
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 1: do a bit local Chevy dealers drive of the game,

1079
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: get it well. Jordan Addison got it in the fourth

1080
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: quarter as it was a thirteen to ten game, and

1081
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 1: I believe it was a Bates field goal just about

1082
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 1: a minute prior to that made it thirteen to ten

1083
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: in favor of the Vikings. All Right, late stages of

1084
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. It's Christmas Day, people got stuff to do.

1085
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: Let's not tie this thing up and send it to

1086
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: ot potentially, Let's find our way to the finish line.

1087
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 1: It was a two play drive and a great answer

1088
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: and a dagger on the game that ended with a

1089
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: play like this.

1090
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: All right, Brozemer takes it's.

1091
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: A trick play and here comes Jordan Edison's teaming to

1092
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: the party to the.

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00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 7: Thirty, get to the five close to the end zone

1094
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 7: PNCY signal, and I said cut in front of believably

1095
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 7: sneaky play by the Minnesota Vikings.

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00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's your local Chevy Dealers drive of the game.

1097
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: If you can do me a favor, Max, and just

1098
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: play the very beginning of that where Pa is like.

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00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: I all right, Brozman, that's the late.

1100
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: Stages of a of a Christmas Day game in which

1101
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 1: really neither team and in the end, now the kiddies

1102
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: are sitting alongside.

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00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 2: The purple all right, here's what's going on. It's Brosburgh. Wow,

1104
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 2: here we he's loose.

1105
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: Beautiful moment there for Jordan Addison and the Vikings and

1106
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: they put the game on ice. That's our local Chevy

1107
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: Dealer's drive of the game, and that's where we'll pause.

1108
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: Final segment. Vikings fan line. Vikings win twenty three to

1109
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: ten over the Detroit Lions, kick the Kitties out of

1110
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: the playoffs. It's four in a row for the Minnesota Vikings.

1111
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: Ron Johnson is here here virtually. He's in his basement

1112
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: Southwest Metro I Nordo from non to noon. I'm in

1113
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: my basement out here in Chaskaway, and Max Fuller is

1114
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: in studio. He's gonna put us on pause. We're gonna

1115
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: come back and put a rap on this thing. It's

1116
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: Vikings fan Line.

1117
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: On the Fan.

1118
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: Final segment, it's a Christmas edition of Vikings Fan Line

1119
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 1: on the Fan, your home for Vikings football, by the way,

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00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: late tip off tonight nine fifteen and then, and I'm

1121
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: hoping Max can correct me, it's nine to fifteen pre game,

1122
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: nine to thirty tip off your Wolves and the Denver Nuggets.

1123
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: It's a Christmas Day finale. Vikings got the w.

1124
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: Hopefully Anthony Edwards and company can beat Joker Jamal Murray

1125
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: at all and the Nuggets. So that's gonna be right

1126
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: here on the fan. But the Vikings win twenty three

1127
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: to ten. They're now eight and eight. They kick the

1128
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: Lions out of the playoffs. So those are some positives,

1129
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: just kind of rounding things out here. Ron Johnson with

1130
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: me Nordo from nine to noon. Four catches thirty yards.

1131
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: I mean again, your QB only throws for fifty one

1132
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: all day. So let's just say, not a lot of opportunities.

1133
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: Nine completions for Max Brosmer today. But he passes Randy

1134
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: Randy Johnson, what are we talking about?

1135
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: Baseball?

1136
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: He passes Randy Moss as the most receiving yards for

1137
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: any for any receiver in the first six years of

1138
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: their career in NFL history. So you dig that. And

1139
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: in today's game, it was Operation eighty three. He needed

1140
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: eighty three receiving yards to eclipse one thousand yards, and

1141
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: now it's Operation fifty three in the border battle. If

1142
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: you're jeff Haffley in the Packers' defense next weekend, you're

1143
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: trying to shut down Jefferson, do you not care because

1144
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: you already now have an invitation to the postseason dance.

1145
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: Is Jefferson gonna get to one thousand yards this year?

1146
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if you will.

1147
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 3: But if I'm the Packers decord, I mean, I don't.

1148
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: Know what evidence over the last month and a half

1149
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: would would lead you to.

1150
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1151
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 2: I think there's a pretty good chance. It's been tough

1152
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 2: nothing Nordal. Here's the thing.

1153
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 3: His very first touchdown of the season started the very

1154
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 3: first game against the Bears. His next touchdown came against

1155
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 3: the Lions November second. He's not scored a touchdown in

1156
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 3: you at this is the last week to score a

1157
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 3: touchdown in US Bank Stadium. I don't think the Vikings

1158
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 3: not I don't think there's never been a season where

1159
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 3: the fans haven't got to see a greedy But yes,

1160
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 3: if I'm the Packers coordinator, yeah, I'm oh, I'm being

1161
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 3: super petty. There's no way I'm doubling trip. I'm going

1162
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 3: to the playoffs regardless of what happens in this game.

1163
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 3: I am going to be petty. I want you to

1164
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 3: go home upset, Like, take your ball and go home.

1165
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make Kevin O'Connell go to Jalen Taylor, go

1166
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 3: to Jordan Nadisen. I feel like this could be a

1167
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 3: game now again, I don't know who's gonna be a quarterback,

1168
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 3: but we guess it's Max Brosmer. I feel like this

1169
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 3: is a game where one of those two guys get

1170
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 3: eighty yards eighty to ninety yards. And here's another thing

1171
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 3: though that kind of makes me mad. Why not make

1172
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 3: that a shovel pass to Jordan Nadison just to boost

1173
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 3: up the passing stats, Like I get the reverse run

1174
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 3: makes it a trick play, but you could have done

1175
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 3: shotgun and tossed it forward and made it a running play.

1176
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 3: Passes play, Yeah, a little pop pass to Jordanassen coming

1177
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 3: through the backfield. But yeah, no, I'm I'm definitely doubling

1178
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 3: and tripling justin Jefferson. I'm gonna press him and I'm

1179
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 3: gonna have a safety over the top. Just why not,

1180
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 3: Like there's nothing else we have to do. We're not

1181
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 3: gonna go any higher in the seedings. I'm gonna shut

1182
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 3: your guy down so that we don't on our watcher.

1183
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 3: We're gonna give up one thousand yards.

1184
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 2: Well, there's part of me.

1185
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean, if he scores a touchdown in the border battle,

1186
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: will there be like a fifteen yard taunting penalty? And

1187
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: then multi what is the penalty if the entire team

1188
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: comes onto the field and starts doing gritties and there's

1189
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: just this five minute soak in of we're a non

1190
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:23,479
Speaker 1: playoff team.

1191
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 2: The whole season sucks.

1192
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: But Jefferson finally got into the end zone after what

1193
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: feels like an eternity is first touchdown at US Bank Stadium.

1194
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: As you said, can the entire team go and celebrate.

1195
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: We'll take all the flags that we don't care about.

1196
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: That delay of games doesn't matter. We'll kick off from

1197
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 1: our own five. It doesn't matter. We're going to spend

1198
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: five minutes celebrating and just this collective release of the

1199
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: stress and the frustration of a twenty twenty five. Would

1200
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: you be cool of that if he gets into the zone. Yeah,

1201
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: I don't care at that point.

1202
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 3: But I mean, I feel like we're gonna get a

1203
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 3: sire relief gritty, Like it's gonna be some type of

1204
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 3: like and then he's getna gritty.

1205
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 2: But I go back to this.

1206
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 3: In the red zone though, why not throw four fay

1207
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 3: routes to Justin Jefferson? Like I don't like, I don't

1208
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 3: understand that too. Like, if you can spread five guys

1209
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 3: out and see that they're gonna go man coverage in

1210
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 3: the red zone on JJ, throw the fade route like

1211
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 3: that's That's the one thing that I've always wondered is

1212
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 3: I would force the ball to him at least twice,

1213
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 3: just to see if they're covering him. Man, give him

1214
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 3: a fifty to fifty ball, you know, treat it like

1215
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 3: Randy Moss. And we haven't seen a lot. We haven't

1216
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 3: seen that this year really, I mean the times great.

1217
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 2: Did you see that it was first or second down? Yeah?

1218
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: Or the bangate? Yeah?

1219
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I made that cut and he got inside

1220
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 1: and just just I think he had an opportunity there

1221
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: and it was about three.

1222
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 5: He did.

1223
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 3: There is a defender in front, but that's more of

1224
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 3: just it should have been thrown soon. You know it's

1225
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 3: a bang gate. You know that the defender is up

1226
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 3: towards the like goal line. Just layer it. Make a

1227
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 3: layer throw so Justin can keep running to the back

1228
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 3: of the end zone versus a laser beam that goes high.

1229
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 3: And that's again that comes with playing more downs in

1230
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 3: the NFL and realizing the game goes faster. We've seen

1231
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 3: Max make that throw to Daniel Jackson in the Michigan game.

1232
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 3: He can make the throw, but this was not that

1233
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 3: type of throw. He threw the same type of ball.

1234
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 3: It has to be a layered, softer, earlier throw. And no,

1235
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 3: just like you just have to know Justin Jeffson's gonna

1236
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:14,919
Speaker 3: win and that was the key there.

1237
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: Well, let's end it there because this offense in twenty

1238
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: twenty five, Ron is it's a mystery wrapped and enigma

1239
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: that is put in Pandora's box and we will hopefully

1240
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: just get to move on from it and expect something

1241
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: better in twenty twenty six.

1242
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas, Ron, thanks for hanging out man. Merry Christmas,

1243
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 2: thanks for hanging out with me as well. Thanks to

1244
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 2: Max Fuller. Happy birthday to Max, Merry Christmas Birthday, Max.

1245
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: And Merry Christmas to all of you for listening to

1246
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: Vikings Fan Line. Vikings win twenty three to ten over

1247
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. Vikings Now eight and eight week from

1248
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: Sunday or next weekend, we're gonna have the Border Battle

1249
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: Packers in town a US Bank Stadium, chance to end

1250
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: the season on a five game win streak.

1251
00:57:58,840 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 2: Who's gonna play QB?

1252
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: Don't ask me, I have no idea, And thank you

1253
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: so much for listening to the fan tonight. Merry Christmas.

1254
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: Next in about fifteen minutes, you're gonna have pregame for

1255
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: the Wolves as they are playing the Denver Nuggets tonight

1256
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: tip off shortly after nine thirty. Thanks for listening to

1257
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: Vikings fan Line Kfan Fan Radio Network.

1258
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 2: Have a great night.