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Speaker 1: Okay, So Penguins fans, I got some questions for Yins.

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Speaker 1: How far can the Penguins go? What's the ceiling? Is

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Speaker 1: it a little scary if you play the Flyers because

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Speaker 1: You'd carry that around for a while. I would like

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Speaker 2: At six foot eight.

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Speaker 1: His size presents a unique challenge with his reach and

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Speaker 1: Because somebody would have to. The Penguins score a lot

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Speaker 1: Very entertaining, but that's not a formula for success in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Girard has played much better the last three

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Speaker 1: games as a result, so has Latang.

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Speaker 2: That defense tandem.

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Speaker 1: Sind Gino were on fire the two games on the

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Speaker 2: Yes, all of it. It is a heady brew.

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Speaker 1: And remember all this was an RKO out of nowhere

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Speaker 1: And get a top five pick. What happened reflects a

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Speaker 1: lot on Dubas's assembly and on mus making the whole

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Speaker 1: much greater than the sum of the parts. As I

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Speaker 1: mentioned Morshaw in Pittsburgh as a precaution practice today. But

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Speaker 1: remain on requdit eight three three four one two wxdx.

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Speaker 1: It's a three three four one two wxdx. I got

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Speaker 1: de Corsi at the bottom of the hour. Uh did

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Speaker 1: Michigan buy the men's basketball championship?

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Speaker 2: March madness? They they spent a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: Only two of the nine players they use on a

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Speaker 1: That's just the way college sports are now. But does

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Speaker 1: it make you less interested?

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say cheap in it if everybody's

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Speaker 1: See your thoughts on that eight three three four one

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Speaker 1: I know the Athletic won't see it that way. I

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Speaker 1: We're talking about Fernando men Doze up number one pick

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Speaker 1: He isn't going to be at the draft here in Pittsburgh?

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Speaker 1: Is that less in the spectacle of the draft. The

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Speaker 2: How could they not have locked this up?

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Speaker 1: How could they not have encouraged him, How could they

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Speaker 1: It just is a bad look when he will not be.

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Speaker 1: We also talked about the crazy notion that this is

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Speaker 2: That's all they are, is just okay. No better.

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Speaker 2: Steelers are the same as it ever.

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Speaker 1: Was for the last decade, but this is not a

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Speaker 1: I saw Robert plant in Red Back, New Jersey Monday Night.

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. Go go.

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Speaker 1: Were you going to sign a report and list your insurance?

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Speaker 2: Iron clad, Yeah, let's go to Phil. Fill your ome

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Speaker 3: Talking about the Penn's ceiling. I think it's a loss

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that the Penguins averaging giving up three goals

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Speaker 3: I think that's the ceiling. You have a question if

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Speaker 4: We still consider the season to be success considering what

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Speaker 2: Uh, that's a real good question.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna make the playoffs, But if they lost to

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Speaker 2: It would I.

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Speaker 3: Feel better if I lost to anybody but Philly. But

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Speaker 3: I don't think they lose the Philly. And then also

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Speaker 2: Well, see that, that's my that's my point too. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I had some people on Twitter saying you bench Novak

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Speaker 2: A top a top nine type of player. You know,

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Speaker 1: Like, who are the fourth liners Lazarte, at Chari, Solderblom

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Speaker 1: That's fair to say, don't you think?

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Speaker 3: I agree? And I wouldn't want to elevate Mantha and

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Speaker 1: Good call, man, Thank you Uh eight three three four

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Speaker 2: Pirates now trail eight two.

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Speaker 1: In the bottom of the night at PNC the final

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Speaker 1: But the Bucko Marks continue with the revenge tour and

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Speaker 1: And of course I'm being intentionally nonsensical, but yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 1: trust Notting? At this point he was signing autographs today

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Speaker 1: Last night Skins blew him away. Pirates beat San Diego

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Speaker 6: Just days after making his major league debut, Pirate shortstop

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Speaker 1: Talk about a whole bunch of stuff from the Sporting News.

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Speaker 1: He is Pittsburgh's on Mike de Corsi, Mike, you're a

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Speaker 4: They're much more interested in congressional action, which would allow

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Speaker 4: So if you have eight point three million dollars a

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Speaker 1: Mike, I know problem with any of that, but there

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Speaker 1: Are the Pirates to be praised for signing grippin long

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: I just don't believe that bill will ever be a cap.

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Speaker 4: I may be now the next victim of freezing cold takes,

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Speaker 1: There can't be. There can't be a floor without a cap.

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Speaker 4: It's really just a question of what you can execute

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well I think that they still can. Can they

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Speaker 4: be competitive in the division? Well, you can look at

438
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Speaker 4: the Reds what they what they put out there last

439
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Speaker 4: year and got to the playoffs. I think that the Pirates'

440
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Speaker 4: best case scenario is something on that order, something a

441
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Speaker 4: low level wild card spot uh is available to them.

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Speaker 4: But if I mean and that, but that, I may

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Speaker 4: be underselling a little bit. I mean I'm looking at

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Speaker 4: O'Neil Cruz and I mean he's hitting like is that

445
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Speaker 4: is that a mirage or is this finally what everybody's been?

446
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Speaker 4: Little again, I know, but.

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Speaker 1: Small player, right, That's what I said. He's the classic

448
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Speaker 1: small sample player in't.

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Speaker 4: He He has been? Yes, but I'm not even sure,

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Speaker 4: Like I know it's only been a couple of weeks,

451
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Speaker 4: but I mean he's had He's a classic small sample

452
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Speaker 4: player who will hit four home runs clear out of

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Speaker 4: the ballpark and all the while he's striking out on

454
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Speaker 4: the other at bats and not hitting anything. And then

455
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Speaker 4: he goes back to not hitting any home runs. He's hitting,

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's not just hitting it out. He's hitting.

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Speaker 4: And so I think if you're a if you're a

458
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Speaker 4: Pirates fan, you have to at least hope that this

459
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Speaker 4: just isn't a streak and that he's made some improvements.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying it is, because I mean, I remember

461
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Speaker 4: when I came him.

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Speaker 1: Like he's another one, he hired a left handed batting

463
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Speaker 1: practice pitcher and he worked with them all off season.

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Speaker 1: Now he's hitting much better off lefties. Why did it

465
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Speaker 1: take till he was twenty seven to do that?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's an outstanding question, and it shouldn't have it.

467
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Speaker 4: He should have been working on trying to get better

468
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Speaker 4: a long time ago, because the rewards for him if

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Speaker 4: he hits are so immense. I mean, he's got so

470
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Speaker 4: much ability raw ability. But why does it take to you? Hey,

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Speaker 4: I guess you have to look at it. Why does

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Speaker 4: it take anybody a while to grow up? Maybe it's

473
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Speaker 4: that maybe he wasn't serious enough about the sport and

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Speaker 4: he got serious about the sport and now he is.

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Speaker 4: And if that's the case, then good for him. It's

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Speaker 4: true in a lot of different walks that people and

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Speaker 4: grow up and mature on different levels. I mean, when

478
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Speaker 4: I was a twenty two year old baseball writer, I

479
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Speaker 4: didn't work hard enough. I lost that job and I

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Speaker 4: learned like, don't ever do that again, And maybe O'Neill

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Speaker 4: Cruz finally sees like his windows starting to shrink a

482
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Speaker 4: little bit. He is twenty seven and if he doesn't

483
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Speaker 4: start to hit, he becomes a utility player, and maybe

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Speaker 4: not even that because he's not a good fielder. So

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Speaker 4: I think maybe he realized that the whole livelihood might

486
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Speaker 4: have been at stake here and he figured out he

487
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Speaker 4: had to start to work harder.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Mike the course, even the Sporting News

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Speaker 1: here on the Mark Madden Show, Mike, what's the mean

490
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Speaker 1: that Fernando Mendoz who won't put the NFL draft? I

491
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Speaker 1: think it makes the NFL look kind of dumb. It's

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Speaker 1: ay made for TV event.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the one thing you have to give

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Speaker 4: a little grace here is his particular circumstance. You know,

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Speaker 4: his mother has an illness that probably it wears on

496
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Speaker 4: her a little bit to travel, and unlike a game

497
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Speaker 4: where she was at every game, especially the big ones,

498
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 4: it's different in person and he wants she wants to

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Speaker 4: be there to support him and all that, and of

500
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 4: course the Heisman's a once in a lifetime thing. But

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Speaker 4: this is just I walk out on the floor. I

502
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 4: know I'm gonna be the number one guy. A shit.

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Speaker 4: I give him the bro hug and then they walk off.

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Speaker 4: And like, I think he'd rather share the moment with

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Speaker 4: her with his mother, who's very important to him, and

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Speaker 4: and and therefore, it doesn't make sense for him to

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Speaker 4: travel to Pittsburgh and and and put her in a

508
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Speaker 4: plane and make her go all that certain obligation Mike, I,

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Speaker 4: you know, I I think the obligation is to show

510
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Speaker 4: up for work and be a great player. I mean,

511
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Speaker 4: this is a guy who's done everything that's ever been

512
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Speaker 4: asked of him. I mean, even like last week or

513
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Speaker 4: two weeks ago, showed up at the pro day in

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Speaker 4: Indianapolis or Indiana excuse me, uht at Iu and threw

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Speaker 4: the ball to Omar Cooper and the other receivers so

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Speaker 4: that they could look better on their pro days getting

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Speaker 4: getting the ball from a guy that they've worked with

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Speaker 4: for two years, excuse me, a year and a half

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Speaker 4: that I think. I think in that case, he's a

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Speaker 4: great young man. Every indication is that he's special, uh

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Speaker 4: and so and and I don't even know for sure

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Speaker 4: that that's the reasoning. I just as soon as I

523
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Speaker 4: saw it, I thought that has to be what it is,

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Speaker 4: because I don't think he would fail to show up

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Speaker 4: for any other reason.

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Speaker 1: Mike, should Diana Russini be involved with Mike Rabel as

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Speaker 1: these photos appear to indicate.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that the height of unprofessionalism?

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Speaker 4: I will say this that I have looked at the

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Speaker 4: the the circumstance. Like Russini's own quote, the photos don't

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Speaker 4: represent the group of six people who were hanging out

532
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Speaker 4: during the day. Like most journalists in the NFL, reporters

533
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Speaker 4: interact with sources away from stadiums and other venues.

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Speaker 2: But that's not what this shows.

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Speaker 4: This is not I mean right the the athletic. The

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Speaker 4: photos are misleading and lack of essential context. What's the

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Speaker 4: content text that says this is okay in our profession?

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Speaker 4: Give me the Steven Ginsberg, the executive editor. Okay, Steve,

539
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 4: what's the context that makes it okay? Please share with us.

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00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 4: It's not in here, It's not in his quote. I

541
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Speaker 4: would love to know what the context is that makes

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Speaker 4: that access.

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Speaker 1: Well, my god, I'm with you, and this happens all

544
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Speaker 1: the time. Aaron Andrews literally made a career on of

545
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: a dating athletes. It just happens all the time, but

546
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: nobody has stopped it for so long.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure now they can.

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Speaker 1: And I also see stuff like the heart wants what

549
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Speaker 1: the heart wants, but the heart has nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with our profession.

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Speaker 2: And maybe if I dated Aaron Andrews, I'd feel different.

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Speaker 4: I cannot. Like, have I been around people that I

553
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Speaker 4: cover in other venues? Yeah, some, but not on a

554
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Speaker 4: private getaway. I don't think that's ever happened. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I have been to dinner with coaches and that sort

556
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Speaker 4: of thing, and I'm when I covered teams an occasion

557
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Speaker 4: went out afterward with a coach or whatever, like on

558
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Speaker 4: a road trip or something like that. But I don't

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Speaker 4: see what the context of these photographs, how what context

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Speaker 4: there is that would exist that would justify what we

561
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Speaker 4: see in the photos. That's what I want to know

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Speaker 4: from Ms Roussini or from the athletic. If they're going

563
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Speaker 4: to make public statements, then they have to tell me, Okay,

564
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Speaker 4: how do you justify this? Please tell me, because I've

565
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Speaker 4: been in this for forty four years now and I've

566
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Speaker 4: not ever seen anything like that be justified.

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Speaker 1: But clearly nothing's going to happen. I mean, she's going

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Speaker 1: to keep covering football.

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Speaker 4: Well, apparently because the athletic has are back. I mean

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Speaker 4: the athletics said these were public interactions in front of

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Speaker 4: many people. Well yes, I mean if you're at a

572
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Speaker 4: pool at a resort then there then most often there

573
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Speaker 4: are other people there who probably aren't even paying attention

574
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Speaker 4: to you. But that still doesn't make it okay for

575
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Speaker 4: what we saw in the photos. I would like to

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Speaker 4: know from Steven Ginsburg what the justification is because his

577
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 4: quote is way insufficient.

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Speaker 2: And maybe we make too big a deal out of it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, and maybe.

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Speaker 4: The no because if you don't, if you don't have

581
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Speaker 4: professional standards, then what do you have.

582
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Speaker 1: Mike turn on ESPN every day from nine till about

583
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Speaker 1: two professional have been flushed on the effing poilet.

584
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Speaker 2: We both know it.

585
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Speaker 4: Now see now now now now see you're now you're

586
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Speaker 4: talking about something entirely different. Journalism.

587
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Speaker 1: The ruination of all this all runs together, it does, well,

588
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Speaker 1: that is.

589
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 4: What what is? What what happens when Stephen A. Smith

590
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 4: is hosting a show is not journalism. You can call

591
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 4: it sports commentary if you like, but it's not surealism

592
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 4: that's not what that is. Uh, Promoting unqualified people for

593
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 4: for head coaching positions is not journalism. It's commentary. Okay,

594
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 4: it's not great commentary. Uh to say.

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Speaker 2: Promote promote what I miss you.

596
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 4: When he when he said that Ryan Clark should.

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Speaker 2: Be I forgot about that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, so, uh you know, I mean so that's

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Speaker 4: not what I That's not what I'm talking about. I

600
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Speaker 4: mean this, she is a she is supposed to be

601
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Speaker 4: a NFL reporter, and so there are standards. And I

602
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Speaker 4: am not saying that there is those standards who are violated.

603
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 4: I'm saying I would like to know the justification for

604
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Speaker 4: what we saw in those photographs and what's being described

605
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Speaker 4: as by other journalists as hugging and handholding. I'm not

606
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Speaker 4: saying that, but that's what the that's what they're that's

607
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Speaker 4: what Uh. The New York Post wrote that they were

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Speaker 4: that they were holding ans and hugging.

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Speaker 1: But you know, you know, I would like to know,

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Speaker 1: you know how this is gonna blow over. Seriously, It's

611
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Speaker 1: gonna be guys like Mike Greenberg and Pat McAfee and

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Speaker 1: Steven A. Smithsy, what's the big deal, it's their private time.

613
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Speaker 1: What's the big deal and no, yell, what's the big deal?

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Speaker 1: Lot enough and long enough where it'll cease to become

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Speaker 1: a be a big deal.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's a big deal to everyone in the business

617
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Speaker 4: except that does it. Does it become a big deal

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Speaker 4: to the athletic, and the athletic has, according to the

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Speaker 4: initial comment, has chosen to defend her. I don't know

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Speaker 4: how they can be serious. And again, if they're going

621
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Speaker 4: to seriously defend the behavior, then you have to explain

622
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Speaker 4: what the justification is for what for what the photographs show.

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Speaker 4: But they chose not to do that. They chose to

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Speaker 4: put to put out a very lame this is sports

625
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Speaker 4: commentary now, a very lame defense of what we saw.

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Speaker 1: Mike is always great stuff, offbeat material today, but I

627
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Speaker 1: like it.

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Speaker 2: Like that. We'll do it again next week.

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Speaker 4: You bet, Mark, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: That's Mike the course he brought to us by South Hills, Kia.

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