1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Now your chance to win one thousand dollars entered this 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: nationwide keyward on our website. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: Credit that's credit. Enter it now. 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 3: This is Dan Horde joined Dave Lapoman me for Bengals 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 3: game plan tonight starting at six on the official home 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 3: of the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen to thirty. 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 4: Dan, I will do that and I look forward to it. 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 4: What's up, Good afternoon, ESPN fifteen thirty. Moeggar, thanks for 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 4: listening today. We're loaded. Tell you what these next two 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 4: days loaded? Loaded, and lots of college hoops which cannot 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 4: get here soon enough, even at the season often sneaks 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 4: up on us men and women locally. Katrina Merriweather, the 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 4: women's basketball coach at UC is going to be with 14 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 4: us in fifteen minutes, Darren Horn and Wes Miller both 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 4: in the four o'clock hour, Richard Patino tomorrow, and Ched 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 4: and Reck the annual Ched and Reck College Basketball Spectacular 17 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 4: in the five o'clock hour as well, plus MLS Comeback 18 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 4: Player of the Year Nick Nick Agland, easy for me 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 4: to say, is going to join our show at four 20 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 4: h five. 21 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: So we're loaded. 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 4: Show preview is available right now at Moeger on Twitter. 23 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: Go check it out, watch it, watch a radio. 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 4: Guide, do a video thanks to a share Facts credit union. 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 4: We'll also chat with Amy Wagner about sports and business 26 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 4: coming up a little bit later on this hour as well. 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 4: So the Bengals host the Bears on Sunday, I do 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 4: want to see if we can carve out some time 29 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 4: to see what ways that Ben Johnson, the coach of 30 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 4: the Bears, is going to come up with to say 31 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 4: nice things about the Bengals defense. The bigger stories that 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 4: relates to Sunday's game right now at least involves Joe Flacco, 33 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 4: and you know, in the aftermath of the game on Sunday, 34 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 4: this was the part that not a lot of us 35 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 4: talked about. The Bengals defense was terrible, the special teams 36 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 4: wasn't very good, the worst loss of the Zach Taylor era, 37 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 4: all the questions being thrown at Duke Tobin, which he 38 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 4: publicly at least will not answer. But also at the 39 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 4: end of that game, it looked like Jake Browning was 40 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 4: going to have to come in because Joe Flacco was 41 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 4: dealing with an issue, and he went into the locker 42 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 4: room and god knows what they injected him with, Well, 43 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 4: that issue is a shoulder problem. 44 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: It's a shoulder injury. 45 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 4: It's being reported by NFL networks ian Rappaport that Joe 46 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 4: Flacco is dealing with a sprained ac joint in his 47 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: right shoulder. His status is not clear. Zach Taylor today 48 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 4: said quote, it's probably fifty to fifty. It is by 49 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 4: the way his throwing shoulder, and he acknowledged that Joe 50 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 4: Flacco is dealing with a lot of pain. So Joe 51 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 4: Flacco's status for Sunday is in doubt, which means they 52 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 4: can lean on their defense against Chicago. They absolutely cannot 53 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 4: lean on their defense, but obviously they would have to 54 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 4: turn back to Jake Browning. None of us want to 55 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 4: watch Jake Browning play quarterback right now. Joe Flacco has 56 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 4: been really good. Joe Flacco has breathed life into the organization. 57 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 2: Now it doesn't feel that way now. 58 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: Because of how they lost and who they lost to 59 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 4: on Sunday, but he has breathed life into the organization, 60 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 4: kept him afloat at least before the Jets game, and 61 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 4: sent a surge of optimism permeating through the fan base. 62 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 4: And we all remember what it was like watching Jake Browning. 63 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 4: So we all wish Joe well, we always Joe Burrow 64 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 4: were playing, but we always Joe Flacco were playing, understanding 65 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 4: that it can't be Joe Burrow. That said, I'm really 66 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 4: interested in how this is going to work if it 67 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 4: ends up having to be Jake Browning. On Sunday, you know, 68 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 4: we did the thing after the Pittsburgh game, watching Joe Flacco, 69 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 4: watching the Bengals offense. And these are fair questions. By 70 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 4: the way, Gee, what can Joe Burrow learn from Joe Flacco? 71 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 4: Legitimate question? What can he learn from Joe Flacco? What 72 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 4: about how he plays? And what about how the Bengals 73 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 4: play when Joe Flacco is the quarterback can be applied 74 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: to how they play when Joe Burrow is the quarterback. 75 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: Does it make sense to have him under center more? 76 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 4: Can he get comfortable playing behind center? Can he lean 77 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: into the running game a little bit more? Can he 78 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 4: be more decisive quickly with the football? Can he do 79 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 4: a better job of keeping himself upright? Can he have 80 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 4: the kind of career that Joe Flacco has had where 81 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 4: the dudes playing until he's forty? All very fair questions 82 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 4: In the short term, though I am interested in whether 83 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 4: or not Jake Browning learned anything like throw the ball 84 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 4: to Jamar Chase. I don't want to overly simplify what 85 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 4: the Bengals have done on offense since Joe Flacco took over. 86 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: But the proof is in the putting man. The proof 87 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: are in the points. 88 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 4: Thirty three against Pittsburgh, thirty eight against the Jets, looked 89 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 4: very good of the second half against the Green Bay Packers. Yes, 90 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 4: they are running the ball more effectively. They've been a 91 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 4: really good running team here in the month of October. 92 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 4: But the thing that has stood out to me more 93 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 4: than anything is the dude has mastered the simple Jamar 94 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 4: Chase is open, I'll throw him the football. He'll make 95 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 4: a play. T Higgins is open, I'll throw him the football. 96 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: He'll make a play. What was maddening about Jake Browning 97 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 4: was it felt like the main guys were open, right. 98 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 4: It felt like Chase was often open, It felt like 99 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 4: Higgins was often open, and Jake either couldn't get the 100 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 4: ball to him or simply wouldn't get the ball to him. 101 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 4: And at the end of that Detroit game, we played 102 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 4: the audio Jake Browning sounded and looked like a defeated man, 103 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 4: somebody who knew that he had coughed away an opportunity, 104 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 4: because that's kind of that's how it was being framed 105 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 4: right when Burrow got hurt. Okay, Jake Browning gets a 106 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 4: shot here, maybe as many as fifteen games, to prove 107 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 4: that he can start in this league, to prove that 108 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 4: he's a guy that you can give the keys of 109 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 4: the offense too. And he looked and sounded like a 110 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 4: guy who perhaps was dealing with the realization that he 111 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 4: was never going to get an opportunity like that every again. 112 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 4: And chances are the days of wondering whether or not 113 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 4: Jake Browning is going to be a starter or as 114 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 4: viewed as a starter by other teams. There's a pretty 115 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 4: damn good chance that time is coming gone. That's out 116 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 4: the window, but it is possibly if he plays, at 117 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 4: least going to be an opportunity for him to show 118 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 4: that he learned from watching the guy who took his place. 119 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: Now. 120 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, Jake Browning doesn't play defense, and so he ain't 121 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 4: going to do anything as it relates to keeping the 122 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 4: Chicago Bears out of the end zone. And if he 123 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: ends up having to play for a while, all the 124 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 4: talk of staying afloat and making the postseason and I 125 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 4: just that, just that totally goes out the window. But 126 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 4: there's at least a chance that on Sunday we get 127 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 4: a chance to see whether or not Jake Browning was 128 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 4: paying attention when Joe Flacco was playing, and whether or 129 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: not there was anything he learned from watching Joe Flacco 130 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 4: take over an offense that was totally inept when Jake 131 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 4: Browning was running it and has been very good since 132 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 4: Joe Flacco took over, at least starting in the second 133 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 4: half of his first game against Green Bay. 134 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: We will see, We'll see. 135 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 4: I'm I'm not gonna I wasn't gonna do this anyway, 136 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: but I'm not gonna worry about playoffs and the math 137 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 4: and how many games do they need to win like 138 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 4: they've won one since Week two? 139 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: Get back to five hundred first. It's gonna be really 140 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: hard to do that. 141 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 4: If they don't win this game on Sunday, Joe Flacco 142 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 4: gives him a better chance, But if Jake Browning has 143 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 4: to play, it will be fascinating to see if any 144 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 4: lessons from watching Joe Flacco can be applied when Jake 145 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,239 Speaker 4: Browning is playing. 146 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: If he plays against Chicago, we will see. 147 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 4: Bengals game plan is tonight from six to eight on 148 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 4: ESPN fifteen thirty. There's the question Tony and Austin were 149 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 4: talking about this, So the Bengals are kind of shorthanded 150 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 4: right now. The Mike Pennell thing, I'm gonna be honest 151 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: with you, I don't care too much about him. 152 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: Number one. 153 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 4: I think it's completely understandable to wonder why Trey Hendrickson 154 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 4: can't be the leader if he's the guy that insisted 155 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 4: on being a captain. Number two. If it ain't Trey Hendrickson, 156 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 4: who is it number three? Who's going to replace Mike 157 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 4: Pennell on the roster or Mike Pennell. Sorry, guy wasn't 158 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 4: here long enough for me to really learn how to 159 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 4: say his last name. More on that a little bit 160 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 4: later on Richard Skinner in the five o'clock hour, I'll 161 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 4: tell you what bummer for UC women's basketball, d Alexander 162 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 4: from Purcell is going to be out indefinitely. Nonetheless, the 163 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 4: season is set to begin a highly touted recruiting class 164 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 4: for Katrina Meriwether. She is going to join us next 165 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 4: on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati sports station since the model 166 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 4: versus pause. 167 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 5: When the Bengals and Bears battle in the jungle, one 168 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 5: thing I know for sure, somebody's getting mauled. Will the 169 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 5: Orange and Black pounced on the win? Or well a 170 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 5: team from the Windy City blow away our beloved Bengals 171 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 5: coverage begins Sunday at the nine am scream for free. 172 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 5: Are the new and improved iHeartRadio App or ESPN fifteen 173 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 5: thirty the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 174 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: Speaking of the. 175 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 4: New and improved iHeart Radio App, which, by the way, 176 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 4: you should you should make us a preset on the 177 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 4: iHeartRadio App. New and Improved iHeartRadio App. If you missed, 178 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 4: we had good stuff yesterday. Paul Danner Junior awesome as 179 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 4: always on the Bengals. 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A guy 206 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 4: who is a you know, he's mister f C Cincinnati 207 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 4: in so many respects, he's mister Soccer and Cincinnati in 208 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 4: so many respects, and has overcome so much to come 209 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 4: back and play this year and be a big. 210 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: Part of the team. He is going to join us 211 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: coming up at four. 212 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 4: We are in a slight holding pattern for our good 213 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 4: friend Katrina Merriweather. 214 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: Who is supposed to be joining us momentarily. 215 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 4: The women's basketball coach at the University of Cincinnati, as 216 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 4: you see, gets set to begin the season on Tuesday 217 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 4: against Lehigh, a team that won the Patriot League championship 218 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 4: last year. That uh, that game is gonna be on Tuesday. 219 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 4: In fact, look here I see she is just getting 220 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 4: out of a meeting right now. All right, So we 221 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 4: we have we've made contact with the folks that you 222 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 4: see who have informed us that Katrina is what are 223 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 4: we allowed to ask her about the content of the meeting? 224 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 4: What happened in the big meeting? Was it an important 225 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 4: high level meeting meeting with the team? 226 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. 227 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 4: So we'll chat with her in uh in just a 228 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 4: few minutes twenty one minutes after three o'clock. We don't 229 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 4: have a ton of time, I will admit today for 230 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 4: phone calls five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty. 231 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 4: But if we do, there it is, and we'll we'll 232 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 4: try to squeeze you in the other the other part 233 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 4: of maybe Jake Browning having to play quarterback on Sunday 234 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 4: is if he does. And again, if you didn't know, 235 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 4: Zach Taylor is calling Joe Flacco day to day with 236 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 4: a a right ac joint spring. 237 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 2: This is throwing shoulder right ac joint sprain. 238 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 4: Who knows The Bengals official injury report is not out yet, 239 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 4: but it certainly feels like it's at least a distinct possibility. 240 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 4: Excuse me that we're gonna see Jake Browning on Sunday. 241 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 4: What would make that not as sobering would be if 242 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 4: you can lean into another part of your team, Like 243 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 4: it's it's not apples to apples by any stretch of 244 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 4: the imagination, but on Saturday you see football This year 245 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 4: has statistically a really balanced offense, and coaches all the 246 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 4: time pay lip service to balance right balanced. Do want 247 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 4: to have a balanced attack? Many say it, but they 248 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 4: don't actually do it. You see this year's ad a 249 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 4: balanced offense, and it's helped that the offensive line has 250 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 4: been really good. It's helped that they haven't turned the 251 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 4: ball over all that much, but they have shown an 252 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 4: ability to beat you both in the air and on 253 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 4: the ground. So in a game where one of those 254 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 4: isn't working to the extent that you would like, you 255 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 4: can lean into the other part of your offense. So 256 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 4: against Baylor on Saturday, they didn't throw the ball that well. 257 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 4: I think Brendan sores be finished with like one hundred 258 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 4: and eleven yards passing, but oh boy, they ran it. 259 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 4: Now they're gonna have to throw the ball better against 260 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 4: teams like Utah on Saturday. But you could lean on, hey, 261 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 4: we're good enough to run the ball that if you 262 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 4: if we're not throwing the ball that effectively, we can 263 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 4: lean into the running game. Excuse me, it would be 264 00:13:54,360 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 4: delightful if you would acknowledge, Okay, offensively, we're maybe gonna 265 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 4: struggle throwing. By the way, the good news is they've 266 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 4: run the ball here recently enough, so perhaps you can 267 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: construct an offense around Jake Browning if need be that 268 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 4: can still be productive and still help you win because 269 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 4: you ran the football. And maybe if you do that 270 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 4: it makes life a little bit easier for Jake Browning. 271 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 4: It would be awesome to have that running game that 272 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 4: we've seen the last couple of weeks on display with 273 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 4: Jake Browning as quarterback. But what you would like to 274 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 4: be able to do is lean into your defense. This 275 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 4: was my question back during June, July, and August. Believing 276 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 4: that Joe Burrow is going to be the quarterback, understanding 277 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 4: that many of us believe he's the best at his 278 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 4: position in the NFL, but that you still have weeks 279 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 4: where maybe the offense just doesn't click. Maybe it's turnovers, 280 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 4: maybe the other team defensively just has the antidote to 281 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 4: what you want to do. 282 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: Can you lean into your defense? Can your defense win 283 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: a football for you? 284 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: Now them o for the Bengals with healthy Joe Burrow 285 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: is obviously not for the defense to do all the 286 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 4: heavy lifting or do excuse me, most of the heavy lifting. 287 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 4: But during a long season, during those weeks where the 288 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 4: offense just doesn't have it, can the defense be a 289 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 4: reason why you win? Or if you have to play 290 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 4: a game without your high end weaponry because of injury, 291 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 4: or you have to play a game without your quarterback, 292 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 4: can you still survive? Can you still beat beatable teams 293 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 4: because of your defense? Obviously, so far this year the 294 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 4: answer has been no, with the exception of the Cleveland game, 295 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 4: and the Browns have a terrible offense and we're not 296 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 4: playing quin Shawn Judkins. 297 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: To that point, what about on Sunday. 298 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 4: Like we are at the stage of the season where 299 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 4: I think you were hoping by now that the answer 300 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 4: could be yes, Bears are coming. Season is teetering on 301 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: the brink two under five hundred. You might be down 302 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 4: to call it what it is. Jake Browning is a 303 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 4: third string quarterback at this point. Can your defense win 304 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 4: a football game for you? Can you apply just enough pressure? 305 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 4: Can you create a turnover or two? Can you make 306 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 4: the other team's offense one dimensional? The frustrating thing about 307 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 4: the way this season has unfolded, there are many, There's 308 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 4: not just one. But one of the frustrating things about 309 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 4: the way this season is unfolded is. 310 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: You kind of. 311 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 4: Shrug your shoulders and believe that if Jake Browning plays, 312 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 4: they have no chance. Ay, because Jake played so poorly 313 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 4: when he was the starter. B You can't lean on 314 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 4: another part of your team. You can't lean on the 315 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 4: defense certainly can't trust it, and you can't trust Duke 316 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 4: Tobin with it either, which we'll spend some time on 317 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 4: here in a bit. Twenty six minutes after three o'clock. 318 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 4: My apologies for continually clearing my throat. I need a drink. 319 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 4: We'll step aside. Get sports headlines in hopefully here from 320 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 4: a coach Meriwether when we come back on ESPN fifteen thirty, 321 00:16:58,600 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 4: Cincinnati Sports. 322 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 7: Station, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 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The Bearcats played an 340 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 4: exhibition two nights ago, defeating Taylor one oh four to 341 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 4: sixty seven. This is a highly anticipated season in the 342 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: Big Twelve for the University of Cincinnati women's basketball program 343 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 4: and the head coach, Katrina Meriweather, who I think fresh 344 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 4: out of a meeting kind enough to join us as always, coach, 345 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 4: it's going to have you. 346 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: How are you. 347 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 10: It's great to talk to you. Thank you for having me. 348 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: What's more fun sitting in a meeting or talking to me? 349 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 10: Absolutely talking to you with these meetings. 350 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 6: I tell our kids all the time, there's things that 351 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 6: you have to do so that you can do what 352 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 6: you love to do. 353 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 10: And that's what meetings are for me. 354 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 4: All right, So I'm sure you have a lot to discuss. 355 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 4: We're less than a week away from the opener. What 356 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 4: are those days just before the first game that counts 357 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 4: like for you and your staff? 358 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're doing a few days of skill development, trying 359 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 6: to clean up some things from the exhibition. Playing Taylor 360 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 6: was really good for us. They're going to have a 361 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 6: great season. They have a really good player and so 362 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 6: we're gonna have to to do better maintaining and garden. 363 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 6: And I was happy with our offense, defense not so much, 364 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 6: so that'll be an emphasis. And then a couple of 365 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 6: days before we'll start actually preparing for Lehigh and getting 366 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 6: this prepared as we can with it being the first 367 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 6: game with no previous games to watch. 368 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 2: What do you like most about your team right now? 369 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 6: I love how they play together. I think we have 370 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 6: great chemistry. That's one of the reasons we were able 371 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 6: to score main points very rarely in the last couple 372 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 6: of years that we had more assist than turnovers. And 373 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 6: so we've seen a huge improvement just from our closed 374 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 6: scrimmage to our intrasquad scrimmage to our exhibition games. So 375 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 6: they are growing and getting better, and I love how 376 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 6: they play. 377 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 10: With each other. 378 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 4: I know what d Alexander has already meant to your program, 379 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 4: and I know what she's going to meet your program. 380 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 4: I just I put myself in her shoes and I go, 381 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 4: you know, you build to this point, you're about to 382 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 4: start your college basketball career, and it's delayed, right, you 383 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 4: have to wait, and you come to grips with that. 384 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 4: She's an athlete she's a competitor, she understands all that. 385 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 4: That doesn't mean it's easy, and so I guess my 386 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: question is, how is she doing dealing with an injury 387 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 4: that she suffers right before the season begins. 388 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 10: Well, it's heartbreaking, right. 389 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 6: You have a kid that comes in with all the hype, 390 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 6: and deservingly so, the All Star Games, the honors, the 391 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 6: all the things, and then she gets here and she 392 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 6: hits some obstacles and then this last one. Obviously it 393 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 6: is going to take her out for a little bit, 394 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 6: and we're just supporting her as best we can. 395 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 10: We have a great medical team that's looking after her. 396 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 6: Her family and her friends have been phenomenal, and I 397 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 6: think her teammates, because of the type of person she is, 398 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 6: they've embraced her even more and they're doing everything they 399 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 6: can look out for her too. So in my opinion, 400 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 6: she's going to continue to do well because she knows 401 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 6: that we're behind her and we're supporting her. 402 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 4: There are newcomers on every team and every sport, more 403 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 4: so than ever before. You have eight this year. What 404 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 4: has stood out about the way that they have blended 405 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 4: with each other and the players you bring back from 406 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 4: last season. 407 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 6: I think our leadership from the five returners where they 408 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 6: just want to continue taking steps forward for the program, 409 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 6: and then the Big twelve allows them to embrace the 410 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 6: eight new ones, getting Mary Carden out of the portal, 411 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 6: giving us the more depth and size and the five 412 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 6: spot along with Maya Peri and Ohio native that can 413 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 6: shoot the pill off the ball. 414 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 10: We know how important it is to be able to have. 415 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 6: An exterior threat and perimeter threat. And then those six freshmen, 416 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 6: they're all different, they all bring something very special to 417 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 6: the table. Outside of d Kalia Debilisi is the most 418 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 6: decorated from high school and she's a phenomenal point guard. 419 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 6: Had seventeen points, seven assists, and two turnovers, and our 420 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 6: exhibition games proven that she can just score and bunches 421 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 6: as well as create for other people. Kylie Torres is 422 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 6: probably our biggest and best surprise, as we picked her 423 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 6: up late in the spring after she decommitted and she's 424 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 6: starting in the four spot and she's energetic and impacts 425 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 6: the game on both ends. And Joia Crawford is a 426 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 6: heck of an offensive player and Cali Beard and Page 427 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 6: will be joining us soon, but they're sitting out right now. Temporarily, 428 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 6: so you know, there's a lot of playing. 429 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 10: Time available, so they better figure out how to play well. 430 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 4: Thrown to the wolves, what is I mean, there's the obvious, 431 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 4: Like there's the size, the athleticism, the speed. I mean, 432 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 4: there are so many different things that you have to 433 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 4: get used to when you make the lead from high 434 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 4: school to this, this level of college basketball. Getting said 435 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 4: for a season in the Big twelve, Beyond the obvious, 436 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 4: what's the biggest adjustment, It's. 437 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 10: Always going to be time management. 438 00:22:58,880 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 5: Right. 439 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 6: We bring them in this summer and we have limited 440 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 6: time to work out. The rules allow you to do 441 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 6: four hours of basketball and four hours to strength and conditioning. 442 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 6: They take one or two classes and their days seem free, 443 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 6: and then fall hits and it's five classes and it's 444 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 6: twenty hours. It's worth of practice, and I think. 445 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 10: Their heads starts to spend a little bit. 446 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 6: And so what really they discover is the more they 447 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 6: take care of themselves, the more that they fuel and 448 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 6: hydrate and rest and go to treatment, and they're proactive 449 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 6: and preventative and still find a time to get the gym. 450 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 6: The smooer the transition is if you try to take 451 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 6: a nap every chance to get in. 452 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 10: Your days get a little full. 453 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 6: So that's to me, the biggest challenge that they have 454 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 6: is managing all the things that are going to be 455 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 6: in a Division one athlete. 456 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 4: I couldn't manage my time in college and I played 457 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 4: intermural basketball forty five minutes a week, So I can't 458 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 4: even imagine you took your players on an international trip. 459 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 4: You went to Rome, you played international competition. I think 460 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 4: two games give me an idea of how that's paid 461 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 4: off for your kids. 462 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 6: Well, I have to be honest, the chemistry is the 463 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 6: number one factor. 464 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 10: Like to watch. 465 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 6: Them bond together, for them to eat gelato, for us 466 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 6: to have a cooking class, for them to learn the 467 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 6: culture and see all the different the sites. 468 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 10: I think that that was the best part for them. 469 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 6: The best part for me was being able to suit 470 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 6: up and play with some lineups because this freshman class 471 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 6: in particular is very versatile. So who is my backup 472 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 6: point guard? You know who is going to be able 473 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 6: to play the three and the four. Who's going to 474 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 6: be able to be on the floor and play well 475 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 6: with who? And that will always be the biggest benefit 476 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 6: for me, on top of watching them grow together as 477 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 6: a team and build and bond. 478 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 2: You had me a gelato the rest of the other stuff. 479 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with you, it doesn't matter all 480 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: that much. 481 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 10: Had all of us in the toe hold. 482 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we. 483 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 10: Went every night. 484 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 6: We all went every night to finish the night off 485 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 6: we were We're at the gelato shop. 486 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 4: Yeah that sounds I'm going to daydream about that the 487 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 4: rest of the day. You checked the box last year, 488 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 4: first winning season in UC women's basketball in five years, 489 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 4: and it's that's you have to improve upon that. 490 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: You know that. 491 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 4: But do you feel like the foundation has kind of 492 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 4: been laid, you know, and it's like, all right, we 493 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 4: did this. We're a winning program. We're in the Big Twelve. 494 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 4: We've put the growing pains of the first season or 495 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 4: two behind us, and now we can kind of take 496 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 4: off from here. 497 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 6: Well, I'm really optimistic about us being able to take 498 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:40,959 Speaker 6: steps forward. 499 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 10: We'll have to see how that manifests. 500 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 6: Because you can't discount losing Jillian Hayes, right, and having 501 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 6: someone with so much experience and being an All conference 502 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 6: player in the Big Twelve, including todaya Hilton you know, 503 00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 6: who had sec experience and came in and just impacted 504 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 6: our team in program and conference in such a positive way. 505 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 10: Do I feel like we've replaced them? 506 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 6: I think it's difficult to do that, especially with just 507 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 6: one player. 508 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 10: So what we just told this team is one thing 509 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 10: is for certain. 510 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 6: This whole team needs this whole team, and the way 511 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 6: that we're going to take a step forward is not 512 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 6: going to be by individual performances. It's going to be 513 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 6: about playing together as a team on both ends. 514 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 10: Of the floor. 515 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 4: Makes sense. I know you have a lot going on. 516 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 4: The opener is fast approaching. Cannot thank you enough. You're 517 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 4: always kind enough whenever we ask, even if you're in meetings. 518 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 4: Great best of luck this season and we'll chat as 519 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 4: the season unfolds. 520 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 521 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 10: I appreciate you. Thank you how a good one. 522 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: You got it. 523 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 4: Katrina Merriweather the women's basketball coach at the University of Cincinnati. 524 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 4: Her team opens up the season against le High on 525 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 4: Tuesday at Fifth Third Arena. Our best wishes to d Alexander, 526 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 4: who is going to be at a while with an 527 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 4: injury and decorated as she is as as much as 528 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 4: she has emerged as the face of the program. Before 529 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 4: playing in a regular season game, you just you feel 530 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 4: you feel for as much starter college basketball career playing 531 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 4: for her hometown school, and the rug kind of gets 532 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 4: pulled out from underneath our at least for a while. 533 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 2: It's eighteen away from five o'clock. No, it's not. 534 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 4: It's eighteen away from four o'clock. She's talking about time management. 535 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 4: I can't even tell time at maleager on Twitter. Thanks 536 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 4: to Delta Dental. Delta Dental is building healthy, smart, vibrant 537 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 4: communities for all. Go to Delta Dentaloh dot com. So 538 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 4: there's a ton of college football coaches who don't have 539 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 4: jobs anymore. What can we learn from that? Our friend 540 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 4: Amy Wagner tells us. 541 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 7: Next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic. 542 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 8: From the UC Health Traffic Center with a stroke, every 543 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 8: second counts, and so does your team home to rapid 544 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 8: life saving treatment and clinical trials. You see help as 545 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 8: the clear choice for stroke care or more at you 546 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 8: seehealth dot com. Northbounds seventy five before Town Street, left, 547 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 8: two lanes blocked from an accident, about a twenty minute delay. 548 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 8: Right now back from Mitchell northbound seventy one seventy five 549 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 8: at Turfway. An accident on the right shoulder and westbound 550 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 8: US fifty accident on the right shoulder at seventy one. 551 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 8: I'm at ezelic with traffic. 552 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 10: This report is sponsored by Miami Valley. 553 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 4: I hob right now, they close the one by my house, 554 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 4: they close the one here. 555 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 2: Pre open the eye Hobs, and I'll go buy some pancakes. 556 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 9: Which one here? 557 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: There used to be. 558 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 4: One, like just you know where McDonald's is, where Dick 559 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 4: Sporting Goods is. 560 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 11: Oh yeah, they did clo that. 561 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 4: That one's closed right like about a year ago. I 562 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 4: went there mid morning to get some pancakes. 563 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: Not open. I love ie hop, but I can't. 564 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 4: I can't take advantage of the deal if you keep 565 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 4: closing all the restaurants. There is seventy one. There's one 566 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 4: you passed one. Oh that one in Oakley. Yeah, that's true, 567 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 4: that one is open. Some pancakes sound amazing right now, 568 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 4: I'm not amazing. 569 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 9: Real quickly, we gotta get to Amy. 570 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 11: Is that one pancake spot that you and the day 571 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 11: I would go to around the corners. 572 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 4: So a litt bit the Madeira Cafe. It's been a 573 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 4: few years, I hope. So greatest pancakes of all time, 574 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 4: legitimately the greatest pancakes of all time, and it's been 575 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 4: maybe three years since I've gone. Man, pancakes sound incredible. 576 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 4: At this moment, That's all I'm gonna be able to 577 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 4: think about. Amy Wagner's here Wealth advisor Dean Dorton Private Wealth. 578 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 4: Learn more about the Dean Dorton Difference God to deandortonwealth 579 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 4: dot Com. I know pancakes are not on your brain 580 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 4: right now, Amy, but we talk about the intersection of 581 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 4: sports and business all the time, So tell me what 582 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 4: is on your mind. 583 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 12: I don't know if you've noticed this depends lately, but 584 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 12: we've been losing a few college football coaches slightly earlier 585 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 12: in the season, then maybe we're somewhat used to. I mean, 586 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 12: the list is actually crazy long, considering we're not even 587 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 12: at a Halloween yet. 588 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 10: Of course, Brian Kelly from LSU, everyone's been talking about. 589 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 12: Penn State, Frank, They're Florida, Arkansas, oklahom State, in State Virginia. 590 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 12: That's a lot of coaches to be losing this early 591 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 12: and this season. I think that we have just had 592 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 12: so many changes in college sports. 593 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 8: Right. 594 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 12: You've got the transfer portal, You've got this nil money, 595 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 12: you've got these direct. 596 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 10: Payments that are being made, and so I think you've 597 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 10: got a fickle sport that's become even more impatient. 598 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 12: And it's an interesting cycle because you have to have 599 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 12: a program that is performing in order to bring in 600 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 12: money to pay the athletes that will continue to perform. 601 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 10: So where before maybe you would have. 602 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 12: Had more time on a coach's clock for them to perform, 603 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 12: for them to build a program, it's almost like the 604 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 12: way that the system now works, you can't use that 605 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 12: time to build the program because if your program is behind, 606 00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 12: you're likely not making enough money to pay top tier athletes. 607 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 10: To start to perform. Does that make sense? 608 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 4: Totally no, And you know I've talked about this as 609 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 4: it relates to you. See, I think it's never been 610 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 4: more difficult to be a new head coach in a 611 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,719 Speaker 4: new place because you're going to start with the bear cupboard, right. 612 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 4: But I also think it's never been more reasonable for 613 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 4: a quick turnaround years two and three. You know, it 614 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 4: used to be college coaches were hired and it's like, 615 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 4: all right, four year plan, five year plan, maybe a. 616 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: Little bit sooner. 617 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 4: But now that the players can go for one school 618 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 4: to the other, and now that you can pay them. 619 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: I get it. 620 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 4: Fans, boosters, administrators, everybody wants to quick fix because it's 621 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 4: never been easier for that to come. 622 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 12: You think about Nick Satan, who had Long Right, Long 623 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 12: Story Coach twenty twenty three. He's like, ah, writing on 624 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 12: the wall, I'm out of here. I'm going to go 625 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 12: play golf and be announcer. 626 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 10: Smartest man in the room. 627 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 13: Right. 628 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 12: The thing about these coaches, though, is while you know, listen, 629 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 12: high stress situation, probably wouldn't want this. It's a lot 630 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 12: easier for you and I to criticize how they approach 631 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 12: these things. But one of the things that they do 632 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 12: when they are coming into these schools in the midst 633 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 12: of all the fanfare and pomp and circumstance, is they're 634 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 12: really smart about how they negotiate these contracts. So it 635 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 12: is not like any of these coaches that suddenly find 636 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 12: themselves out of a job are going to be claiming 637 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 12: unemployment anytime soon. 638 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 10: I mean, you know, millions and millions of dollars. I mean, 639 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 10: Brian Kelly reportedly. 640 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 12: Out of a fifty four million dollar contract that was 641 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 12: supposed to pay out over ten years. 642 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 10: He'll get that money, you know. 643 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 12: Franklin probably get enough money to buy a private jet, 644 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 12: like they're good. And I think there's something that many 645 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 12: of us can take away from that in the fact 646 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 12: that when we are switching jobs, we. 647 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 10: Often do not think about that job ever ending. We 648 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 10: don't think about the bracond. We just want to know 649 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 10: how much they're going to pay us, right. 650 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think there's something to this, right, Like 651 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 4: these coaches, they are agents, they negotiate big buyouts, and 652 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 4: they're obviously not planning on getting fired, but they can 653 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 4: protect themselves. And I do think there's probably some real 654 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 4: world application there right where you take a new position, 655 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 4: whether it's with the company you're at now or you 656 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 4: go work for someone new, I guess, and you could 657 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 4: speak to this better than me. I would imagine that 658 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 4: many do not think about what it would look like 659 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 4: if they get terminated, and that's something you do need 660 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 4: to prepare for, even when you're taking a new position. 661 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 10: Well, that is one hundred percent true. 662 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 12: We've already seen a shift in how employees approach new positions. 663 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 12: It used to be the number one thing everyone cared 664 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 12: about with salary everything else. I'll figure out the benefits 665 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 12: three months after I start working there. I just want 666 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 12: to make sure that the salary covers it. I think 667 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 12: the pandemic in what has happened in the workforce since 668 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 12: has changed that. I've seen a number of studies that 669 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 12: show for a lot of especially millennials and gen Zers, 670 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 12: kind of these next generations coming up, it's really not 671 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 12: as much about the salary. Certainly, that's part of it, 672 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 12: but for many of them, it's about can I have 673 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 12: a hybrid work environment? 674 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 10: Is there any kind of remote policy? 675 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 14: Right? 676 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 10: There's other things that they're starting to think. 677 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 12: About, But I would guess that most workers never think 678 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 12: about the backside of things, which is severance. What is 679 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 12: the severance policy? So I think number one is understanding 680 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 12: what is the policy going in? And second, many times 681 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 12: the only thing that we negotiate in a new job 682 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 12: is the salary. There's so many more things, however, that 683 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 12: can be negotiated, right, some of those benefits, how bonuses 684 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 12: are paid out, what kind of vacation you have. Listen, 685 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 12: here's a little tip. This is what Amy Wagner does. 686 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 12: If I am ever switching a job, you better believe 687 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 12: I'm planning a vacation and telling the. 688 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 2: New boss immediately, yeah, that I. 689 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 10: Will not be able to be there do it every time. Right, 690 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 10: It's a no brainer. But I think severance needs to 691 00:34:59,120 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 10: be part of that. 692 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 12: There is a fine line that you have to walk 693 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 12: with this conversation, because you also don't want to be 694 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 12: the person who is laser focused on the end of 695 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 12: a job when. 696 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 10: You're first walking in. But let's take it back to 697 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 10: these coaches. 698 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 12: Wait, think about Belichick, right, I mean, you had these 699 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 12: donors and this school and all these alums rolling out 700 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 12: the red flag writing all the checks in the world. 701 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 12: How amazing it was that a college team was going 702 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 12: to get someone with a history like Bill Belichick. 703 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 10: He also negotiated severance into this. 704 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 12: And if this ultimately does not work out, Uh, he's 705 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 12: going to walk away with this. 706 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 10: By the way, fine for him and his girlfriend. You know. 707 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 12: I think there's something to be learned from this, and 708 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 12: that is you kind of have to take in the 709 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 12: totality of what employment looks like, not just the salary, 710 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 12: but the benefits, what kind of flexibility you want around 711 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 12: a remote schedule or a hybrid schedule. And also on 712 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 12: the back end of this, if this doesn't work out, right, 713 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 12: I'm going to come to the table. I'm going to 714 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 12: give you everything that I can, just like all of 715 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 12: these coaches. But if for some reason, and sometimes it's 716 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 12: not in our control, that something does not work out, 717 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 12: what is my parachute on the backside? What steps have 718 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,720 Speaker 12: I taken to protect myself and of course my family. 719 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 10: And that's something I. 720 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 12: Think that we need to start thinking about when we 721 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 12: switch these positions, when we make these jumps. 722 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 4: It's also worth mentioning like last year, there were not 723 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 4: a ton of schools that change coaches, right, so the 724 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 4: job market is cyclical. This year it's going to be insane, 725 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 4: especially once the off season begins and we're i think 726 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 4: just scratching the surface in terms of coaches who are 727 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 4: going to be removed and ultimately replaced. And again I 728 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 4: think there's a real world application to that as well. 729 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 4: We always hear about job numbers. In the job market, 730 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 4: it is cyclical, just like college football. 731 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 10: It is, and we've also seen a major chef there. 732 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 10: That's an excellent point. 733 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 12: So coming out of the pandemic, once again, what we 734 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 12: realized was workers were in the seat for negotiating. You 735 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 12: could tell your boss to take that job and shove 736 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 12: it on Monday, and by Friday, you've got three other offers. 737 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,919 Speaker 12: What we have seen over the course of the past 738 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 12: few years is that pendulum flying way in the other direction. 739 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 12: I think AI is part of this, right, So back 740 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 12: to the college coaches, they're dealing with major shifts in 741 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 12: that industry with nil money transfer portal. So is the 742 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 12: average worker in the fact that AI's coming along. So 743 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 12: now you've got places like Walmart saying we actually have 744 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 12: a plan where we're going to continue to grow over 745 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 12: the next three years, and by the way, we're going 746 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 12: to keep our head count flat. 747 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 10: That's unheard of. 748 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 12: In companies that are looking for growth target saying the 749 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 12: same thing. Meta interestingly meta, right, so Facebook, everyone uses Facebook. 750 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 10: They're actually cutting hundreds of jobs right now from their 751 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 10: AI divisions, and you know, there's some irony. 752 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 12: There, and so you know, I think also what you 753 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 12: have to think about is you don't have probably the 754 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 12: leverage that you did in jumping before. There there are 755 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 12: a lot of companies that feel like they've got really 756 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 12: strong growth plans. 757 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 10: That do not involve growing their workforce, and that is 758 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 10: going to be a major shift. 759 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 12: And just like these college coaches are trying to figure 760 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 12: out what this new terrain looks like I think the 761 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 12: average worker is going to have to figure that out too. 762 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 4: Makes a lot of sense. Amy, awesome to have you 763 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 4: as always. Amy typically joins us at four thirty five. 764 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 4: We had to move up her appearance, but joins us 765 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 4: every Wednesday to talk sports and business. Thanks to our 766 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 4: friends at Dean Dorton Private Wealth. You can learn about 767 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 4: the Dean Dorton difference. Just go to deandortonwealth dot com. 768 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 4: That's deandortonwealth dot com. Amy Wagner, a wealth advisor for 769 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 4: Dean Dorton. MLS Player of the Year, no MLS Comeback 770 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 4: Player of the Year, Comeback Player of the Year. Nick 771 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 4: Haglan is going to join us next on ESPN fifteen 772 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 4: thirty your. 773 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: Chance to win one thousand dollars entered this nationwide keyword 774 00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 1: on our website. 775 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 14: Cash. 776 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 2: That's cash. Enter it now. 777 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 5: Well it's closed versus pause. When the Bengals and Bears 778 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 5: battle in the jungle, one thing I know for sure, 779 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 5: somebody's getting malled. Will the Orange and Black pounce on 780 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 5: the wind or will a team from the Windy City 781 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 5: blow away our beloved Bengals. Coverage begins Sunday at nine am. 782 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 5: Stream for free are the new and improved iHeartRadio app 783 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 5: or ESPN fifteen thirty the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 784 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 4: So there you go, Bengals Bears here on ESPN fifteen thirty. 785 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 4: And then Game two FC Cincinnati versus Columbus that is 786 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 4: going to air down the Hall on Fox Sports thirteen sixty. 787 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 4: Big Cincinnati sports day and a big day for Nick Haglan. Today, 788 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 4: Major League Soccer announced that the Lakota westn Xavier University 789 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 4: product has been named the twenty twenty five MLS Comeback 790 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,720 Speaker 4: Player of the Year. And you could certainly understand why. 791 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 4: We we have talked extensively about Knick's injury history. Just 792 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 4: an avatar of resilience. He has come back time and again, 793 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 4: and I don't know if there was anything scarier than 794 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 4: what he had to deal with with a fractured fractured 795 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,240 Speaker 4: ribs collapse. Long after he suffered that injury against Atlanta 796 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 4: back in May, has returned to the pitch. He was 797 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 4: there on Monday night for Game one, the win over 798 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 4: the Columbus crew and kind enough to give us a 799 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 4: few minutes this afternoon. Nick, It's awesome to have you. 800 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 4: Thank you for the time congratulations. 801 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 15: Hey, thanks for having me. 802 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 10: I really appreciate it. 803 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 2: You know, soccer players suffer injuries. 804 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 4: Athletes suffer injuries, and we read about them and you know, 805 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 4: all right, he's got a knee injury or an ankle injury, 806 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 4: lower body injury. I don't spend that many times, that 807 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 4: much time in the studio talking about collapse lungs. I 808 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 4: feared for the worst, and yet you are back. What 809 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 4: has this year been like? 810 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 15: Yeah, it's been a whirlwind of a year, to be honest. 811 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 15: I mean started off to see and coming back from 812 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 15: my leg injury with the ankle ligament and the cartilage 813 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 15: damage and. 814 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 2: The broken leg. 815 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 14: Didn't even know didn't even know if I was. 816 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 15: Gonna play a game this year. I was gonna that 817 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 15: was my goal, just play one game, be happy. Ended 818 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 15: up playing eighteen games, you know, and halfway between had 819 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 15: those games, broke my ribs, bought my lung, sat another 820 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,320 Speaker 15: two months out and got to continue playing on the 821 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 15: rest of the season. And honestly, it's just been a 822 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 15: huge buzzing And yeah, the cherry on top has come 823 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 15: back Player. 824 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 2: Of the Year. It's well deserved. 825 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 4: I cannot imagine what must have been going through your 826 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 4: head and you're a resilient guy, but you had to 827 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 4: stay in the hospital down there in Atlanta. They're telling 828 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 4: you about fractured ribs and a collapse long and you've 829 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 4: already come back from so many different things. What were 830 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 4: those days, those immediate days after the injury, Like. 831 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 15: It was really just like, I can't believe I'm back 832 00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 15: in a hospital again. 833 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 14: It will be the third time in two years. 834 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 15: I'm in a hospital getting some type of surgery. 835 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 2: How is this happening again? 836 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 15: No one, It was just like I need I need 837 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 15: to you know. 838 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 10: That's it. 839 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,240 Speaker 15: I was like, all right, here's the timeline eight weeks 840 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 15: and we'll see how it goes. We're gonna cry and 841 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 15: blaze your nerves so you can't feel anything. So once 842 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 15: you feel like you're up for it. 843 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:25,240 Speaker 2: Go ahead. 844 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 15: And so that was it. It was just one day at 845 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 15: a time, slowly working my way back to full fitness 846 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 15: and preparing to get it my best. 847 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 2: Go I. 848 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 4: We talked about the injury when it happened, and we 849 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 4: felt awful for you on a human level, and then 850 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 4: I'm going, Okay, maybe the length of the season will 851 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 4: allow him to get back. At the very very end, 852 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 4: I was surprised, and look, I'm not I'm a radio dork. 853 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 4: I don't know anything about ribs or lungs or anything 854 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 4: like that, but it was it was eye opening to 855 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,959 Speaker 4: me that you came back as quickly as you did. 856 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 4: Was was that the timeline that was out line to 857 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 4: you when when you first offered the injury. 858 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 14: Yeah, generally they were just like eight weeks. 859 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 15: So I came back right at the eight week mark. 860 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 16: Your lungs are probably like the least amount. 861 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 15: They heal pretty quickly, and it's about getting lung capacity 862 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 15: back and that comes back in those those two months, 863 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 15: and then it's really how much can you withstand the 864 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 15: pain of the ribs being broken? And luckily they like 865 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 15: cry ablaze, like I still can't feel my ribs right now, 866 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 15: Like there's still numbers can be and they basically it 867 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 15: was just about getting fitness, and the hard part of 868 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,240 Speaker 15: it is like mid season getting fitness is very difficult. 869 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 17: You don't have that many games. 870 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,280 Speaker 15: Every point matters, so you're trying to get the most 871 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,399 Speaker 15: out of it. And so where's the opportunities to get 872 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 15: yourself fitness because practice is just not able to do. 873 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 15: It's not it's not the same as game minutes, and 874 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 15: so was. I was lucky enough to get League's Cup 875 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 15: and we were kind of out of it at the 876 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,760 Speaker 15: on the last game, and I got to get forty 877 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,359 Speaker 15: five minutes there, get to play with the second team 878 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 15: and get minutes there. And then slowly, you know, we 879 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 15: had a bunch of injuries and they were like, all right, 880 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 15: you're we're in Portland, we need a center back. You 881 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 15: gotta play. So I was able to get my minutes there, 882 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 15: and yeah, the rest of the rest of the season 883 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 15: is how it played out. 884 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 4: I promise we'll talk about something besides the injury, but 885 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 4: what is what is taking contact been like? 886 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,479 Speaker 15: You know, I the first couple ones was it felt 887 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 15: like the wind got knocked knocked out of me, and 888 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 15: I was just like feeling really uncomfortable. As things have changed, 889 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 15: you know, I protect myself a little bit more. I 890 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 15: go into challenges a little bit harder, because sometimes I 891 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 15: feel like if the person that goes in harder is 892 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 15: gonna be, you know, safer than the one that goes 893 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 15: in softer. So kind of make sure that I'm protecting 894 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,399 Speaker 15: myself in those regards. And you know, I've got hit 895 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 15: a couple of times in a way that it felt weird, 896 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 15: but ultimately the metal titanium in my ribs has held up. 897 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 4: And when you were when you were on your way 898 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 4: to coming back, you watch do you watch the Columbus 899 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,720 Speaker 4: game actually in the bailey? 900 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:04,360 Speaker 2: What was that like? 901 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 9: I did? 902 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,399 Speaker 15: Honestly an awesome experience. 903 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 17: Yeah. 904 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 15: I went in for five minutes, we scored two goals, 905 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 15: being a part of the fans. Like, the funny thing 906 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 15: is is like for me, I would you know if 907 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 15: I was not playing soccer and I was just in 908 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,399 Speaker 15: sales somewhere in downtown Cincinnati working for somebody, I would 909 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 15: be on the weekend in the bailey every weekend cheering 910 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 15: the cheer in f. 911 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 6: C Cincinnati on. 912 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 15: So for me, that was kind of just so, you know, 913 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 15: a way to support my team, support the people that 914 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 15: support us all year and be a part of the 915 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 15: energy of the f C Cincinnati and the passion of it. 916 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,240 Speaker 15: And it was honestly a blast. I saw two goals. 917 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 15: I mean, it couldn't be better. My only regret was 918 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 15: not staying longer. 919 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 4: To be honest, By the way, if you want to 920 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 4: work in sales, we can we can arrange that for 921 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 4: you here. 922 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 2: Just just if that's like a goal of yours. 923 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 14: I'm just saying in an alter you. 924 00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,919 Speaker 2: All right, I just you know, I know, folks. 925 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 4: Nick Haglit is with us today named the twenty twenty 926 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,879 Speaker 4: five MLS Comeback Player of the Year. 927 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 2: So you've you've had a perspective. 928 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 4: I had Chris Albright on the show last week and 929 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 4: it's like, there's always moving parts. There's transfer windows, there's 930 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 4: player who's players who come from other countries, there's deals 931 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 4: with other MLS squads. There was more player movement this year, 932 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 4: and injury was a reason why, but there was more 933 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 4: player movement this year, even going back to preseason training 934 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 4: obviously with the acquisition of a vander Than I think 935 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 4: at any point during this club's history, what has it 936 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 4: been like from your perspective, from the bailey, from the 937 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 4: hospital room, from the sideline, and on the field watching 938 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 4: Pat sort of navigate all that and leading. 939 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,439 Speaker 2: You guys to a second place finish in the East. 940 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 15: What I was saying, I think there's a huge kudos 941 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 15: to the coaching staff and the guys on the team 942 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 15: for all the moving parts. You know, people coming in 943 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 15: and out. The lineup is different, changing, you know, making 944 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,959 Speaker 15: sure that the standard of play that we've had over 945 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 15: the past couple of years continues to stay no matter 946 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 15: who's on the field. I think it's a huge amount 947 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 15: about what Pat has done with the group and how 948 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 15: we've been able to you know, a lot of times 949 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 15: when teams change up, there's a dip in energy or 950 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 15: in the level of play. In this year, I feel 951 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 15: like it's just plug and shug and guys do a job. 952 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 15: Someone gets injured, next guy up. Chris has built an 953 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 15: incredibly deep team and there's a lot of competition, and 954 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 15: the coaches have used everyone. Literally from roster spot number 955 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,919 Speaker 15: one all the way to roster spot thirty. You've seen 956 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 15: everyone play a part in this and so Pat and 957 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 15: his staff have done an incredible job to keep us 958 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 15: on the right way, regardless of what the player's status 959 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,280 Speaker 15: looks like or who's in on the on the lineup 960 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 15: on the day. 961 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,919 Speaker 4: What was your takeaway from the way you guys played 962 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 4: on Monday. 963 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,359 Speaker 2: We have a great game. 964 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 15: I think we played a complete game. I think it's 965 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 15: kind of the over the last month we've been building towards, 966 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 15: you know, doing the defensive things well and doing the 967 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 15: attacking things well, and I feel like it all came together. 968 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 2: On Monday. 969 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 15: I think you saw a little bit of everything, and 970 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 15: that's kind of what we've been trying to do. He 971 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 15: talked about being our bravest version of ourselves, and I 972 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 15: think we went out there and did that. 973 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 4: It's an awesome honor. I know you have a match 974 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 4: to get ready for on Sunday. You it's one step 975 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 4: at a time, and I understand, and I know you've 976 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 4: been asked this question before. Winning the MLS Cup would 977 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 4: be awesome for everybody involved, every fan, every player, every coach, 978 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 4: but for somebody who's from here and has has kind 979 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 4: of watched this get built from the ground up. Have 980 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,239 Speaker 4: you even allowed yourself to think about what winning a 981 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 4: championship here in a few weeks might mean for you individually? 982 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 15: I mean that well, the moment I was called to 983 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 15: say I was being traded that Seasonincinnati, that's the something 984 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,240 Speaker 15: that I've always thought about. 985 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 16: Putting a star above the. 986 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 15: Cya Cincinnati Christ and saying. 987 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 17: That that we brought a championship to the. 988 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 15: City as a Cincinnati it means so much to me. 989 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 15: I never want to get ahead of myself, but you 990 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 15: only have so many opportunities to do this and you know, 991 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 15: I don't want to have any regrets at the end 992 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 15: of it. 993 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 2: I want to see you guys celebrate on their field 994 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:11,240 Speaker 2: on Sunday. 995 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,880 Speaker 15: I do too, I absolutely do. 996 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 4: You know you had to watch it two years ago 997 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 4: and you couldn't play, and that was you know, it 998 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 4: still sticks in everybody's crawl. And so if the come 999 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 4: up ands can be on Sunday and Columbus watching you 1000 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 4: guys celebrate postseason advancement, I think that'd be sweet for 1001 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 4: everybody who cares about the Orange and Blue. 1002 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 2: So try to make that happen. Okay, I will, I will, 1003 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 2: I will. 1004 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,359 Speaker 4: Awesome, Nick, It's awesome to have you. I know you 1005 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 4: did this on short notice. Congratulations. You're an inspirational story 1006 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 4: because if you've come off the mat so many times, 1007 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 4: we've been watching rooting for you, and so to get 1008 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 4: you on on a day where you've been handed this 1009 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 4: honor is really cool. Best of luck on Sunday and beyond. Man, 1010 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:51,880 Speaker 4: Thanks so. 1011 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 15: Much, Thank you so much, Thanks for having me. 1012 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:55,919 Speaker 2: How do you not root for that? Dude? 1013 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 4: Nick Haglin. The Pride of Lakota West and Xavier University 1014 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:04,320 Speaker 4: named them LS twenty twenty five MLS comeback player of 1015 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 4: the year. All right, uh, Darren Horn is going to 1016 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 4: join us. The men's basketball coach at NKU. 1017 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 7: Next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic from. 1018 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,720 Speaker 8: The UC Health Traffic Center with a stroke every second 1019 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,800 Speaker 8: countsend So does your team home to rapid life saving 1020 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 8: treatment and clinical trials. You see health as the clear 1021 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 8: choice for stroke care. Learn more at UCHealth dot com. 1022 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,919 Speaker 8: On northbound seventy five. Still got that accident before town 1023 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 8: blocking off the left the lane. Traffic stop and go 1024 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,840 Speaker 8: from seventy four about a twenty five minute delay. Right now, 1025 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 8: I'm southbound seventy one in Ohio at two seventy five. 1026 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 8: Accident off on the left shoulder. I'm at ezelic with traffic. 1027 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 7: This is football in the NATI, brought to you by 1028 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,839 Speaker 7: Modern Office Methods. 1029 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 18: On East fifteen. 1030 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 7: Thirty the official Cincinnati Bengal. 1031 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 4: Thank you, It's exactly for twenty This is ESPN fifteen 1032 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 4: thirty one. The men's basketball team at Northern Kentucky University 1033 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 4: opens it season on Monday game against UC Claremont at 1034 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 4: seven o'clock and before they hit the road for back 1035 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 4: to back games next weekend against Tennessee and Knoxville, the 1036 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,120 Speaker 4: first of those two. The head coach of the Norse, 1037 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 4: he's got his hands full with nine new players. 1038 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 2: Darren Horne is with his coach. Awesome to have. He 1039 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 2: was always good afternoon, good afternoon mode. 1040 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 10: Thanks. 1041 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 16: You know that this pitch riding was my normal routine. 1042 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 16: I turned on down Mowegar in the afternoons on my 1043 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 16: way home. 1044 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 14: This is perfect. 1045 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,360 Speaker 4: Well, that's that's way too kind of you, and I 1046 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 4: appreciate that. Where do you even start? Is this like 1047 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 4: normal now? Where every year you know I'm gonna have six, seven, eight, 1048 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,839 Speaker 4: nine new players? Has this started to feel normal yet? 1049 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 16: Well? I think it is right. Just look around the 1050 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 16: country and if you've got, you know, less than five 1051 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 16: or six new guys, it's probably unusual. And so it's 1052 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 16: just the first year that it's happened for us to 1053 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 16: have this many new guys. And you know, our philosophy 1054 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,799 Speaker 16: approaching this in the in this new era is we're 1055 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 16: trying to build the best team that we can uh 1056 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,839 Speaker 16: for every season, uh one year at a time, and 1057 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,400 Speaker 16: so you know, we hope that we've done that for 1058 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,919 Speaker 16: this year with the new guys. 1059 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 4: How many of these players from overseas did you get 1060 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,800 Speaker 4: a chance to go and recruit personally? 1061 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 14: Zero? 1062 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,840 Speaker 16: I mean that's the thing. You don't see any of 1063 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 16: these portal guys in person, right unless you played against 1064 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 16: them or maybe recruited them at one time. You know, 1065 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,439 Speaker 16: you're talking about sometimes a seven day to maybe two 1066 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 16: three weeks max recruitment and and a lot of it 1067 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 16: not even in person. We we've got a guy that 1068 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 16: may start for us who we never even had on campus. 1069 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 2: Does is that normal? 1070 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 10: Yet? 1071 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,839 Speaker 16: I think it's getting there. I think it's getting there 1072 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 16: because of the timing of it. You know, you get 1073 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 16: into May and there's some some deadlines on this stuff, 1074 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 16: and uh, you know, you run out of time to 1075 00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 16: get them to campus. 1076 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,880 Speaker 4: All right, well, uh, you've had an submission game you 1077 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 4: play at Ashland. So based on that and the weeks 1078 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,799 Speaker 4: where the practice and all the offseason workouts, what do 1079 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:06,879 Speaker 4: you like most about your team? 1080 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 10: Yeah? 1081 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 16: I think what I'm going to like hopefully is we 1082 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 16: I think we're going to be deep, a little deeper 1083 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 16: than we've been in the past. I really like our athleticism, 1084 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 16: and I think we've got some real versatility in this group. 1085 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 16: But again with with not many returners and then the 1086 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 16: returners being guys that you know, need to be more 1087 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 16: consistent in their roles. Uh, you know, we don't know 1088 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 16: exactly what we're gonna get, but I think there's real 1089 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 16: potential for us to work towards a team that's that's 1090 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 16: much more athletic and deeper overall. 1091 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 4: Do you do you go into the first few games, 1092 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 4: and I hate to put it this way, with with 1093 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 4: almost a checklist of like, we we want to win 1094 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,759 Speaker 4: as many games as possible, but we have to accomplish 1095 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,720 Speaker 4: these things. We have to grow in these areas before 1096 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 4: Horizon League play gets here. 1097 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 14: No question, you know. 1098 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 16: I think the biggest thing, one of the reasons we've had, 1099 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 16: you know, sustained success in our play, I think we 1100 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 16: really played to an identity, and that identity is built 1101 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 16: you know, over time with you know, we don't really 1102 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 16: use the word culture, but with building you know, culture 1103 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 16: of your program and how you want to play, what's 1104 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 16: important to you, it's passed on. Right now, new guys, 1105 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 16: you don't have as much of that, and so we're 1106 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,280 Speaker 16: of course we're playing to win every game, but we 1107 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 16: really also want to build our identity early in the season. 1108 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 2: How hard is that to do when you're not seeing 1109 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 2: guys in person. 1110 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 16: Oh it's hard, right, I mean, Houpetilly, we're all rolling 1111 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 16: the dice, man, you know, and then we're not alone 1112 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,400 Speaker 16: in our own area. Kentucky's got eleven new guys. I 1113 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 16: think I don't know how many re think Richards told 1114 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 16: Rosters do it Xavier. So like it's it's just kind 1115 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,319 Speaker 16: of college basketball now. Man, you got to get to 1116 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,959 Speaker 16: it and hope it works out well for. 1117 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 2: You, no question about that. Darren Horne is with us. 1118 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 4: The Norris open up the season against UC Claremont on Monday. 1119 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,320 Speaker 4: That game is going to be at seven o'clock before 1120 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,360 Speaker 4: they hit the road to go take on Tennessee. You 1121 00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 4: and I talk about scheduling. We've talked about scheduling in 1122 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,799 Speaker 4: the as is in this era of college sports, is 1123 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 4: it becoming easier more difficult to check all the boxes 1124 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:08,720 Speaker 4: you want to check with the schedule. 1125 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 16: Yeah, it's getting harder for us again just because of 1126 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 16: the way we play and the success that we've had. 1127 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,320 Speaker 16: You know, used to be we were a quality RPI game. 1128 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,919 Speaker 16: But now it's the net system, right, and it goes 1129 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,360 Speaker 16: by quads and whether you're at the top of the 1130 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 16: quad or the bottom of the quad. It's it's the 1131 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,479 Speaker 16: same ranking or or credit for your opponent, so they'd 1132 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 16: much rather play the teams at the bottom of the quad, 1133 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 16: which has made it really hard for us to get 1134 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 16: those games, and then just the structure of them as well. 1135 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,840 Speaker 16: We hope we've addressed that. You know, if you remember 1136 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,439 Speaker 16: last year MO, we we opened up half Florida State, 1137 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,840 Speaker 16: went to Purdue, and then hosted Cincinnati in three of 1138 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 16: our first four games. 1139 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:49,840 Speaker 14: So we we've. 1140 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 16: Tried to space that out a little bit. We are 1141 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 16: at Tennessee and on the road to the Eastern Sea State, 1142 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 16: who's always very good, but then and then we're able 1143 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,880 Speaker 16: to come home for three towards the end of the 1144 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,680 Speaker 16: month and hopefully build our team a little bit in 1145 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:02,320 Speaker 16: that process. 1146 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 4: Do you like the fact that there are Horizon League 1147 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,399 Speaker 4: games on the schedule, and this has been the case 1148 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,799 Speaker 4: now for a while before the calendar flips the next year. 1149 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 2: I like it in general. 1150 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 16: It makes non conference scheduling harder, right because you basically 1151 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 16: have got days blocked out that you can't work with, 1152 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:23,640 Speaker 16: so it limits your your flexibilability and availability for particular games. 1153 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,359 Speaker 16: But but I like playing some of those games early 1154 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 16: and you know with all leagues now, with the number 1155 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,319 Speaker 16: of ear Eleague games we play, you know you're gonna 1156 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 16: have to play some in December. 1157 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 4: Oh, when you were playing, we weren't starting the season 1158 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 4: on November the third, like that's and we was talking 1159 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 4: about that before, just as a fan. That's still I 1160 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 4: remember when college basketball would start the week after Thanksgiving, right, 1161 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,840 Speaker 4: that wasn't that long ago. The fact that we're starting 1162 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 4: this early, you talk about a new normal. That's one 1163 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 4: I haven't gotten used to. 1164 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 16: No, it really is strange, and it doesn't impact us 1165 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 16: as much because we get the summers now, so we 1166 00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,160 Speaker 16: still feel like we have some time with our guys, 1167 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 16: even though a bunch of them are new. But yeah, 1168 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 16: I mean at tips earlier and early. I mean we're 1169 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,480 Speaker 16: gonna start having at Halloween tip offs. 1170 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 14: We're not care. 1171 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels like that. That's around the corner. The 1172 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 4: season is here, begins on Monday. We always love having 1173 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 4: you and we'll do it again soon. Man, thanks so 1174 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 4: much for you're the best. 1175 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. That's our guy. 1176 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 4: Darren Horne, the men's basketball coach at Northern Kentucky University. 1177 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 4: The Norse taking on UC Claremont in Highland Heights on 1178 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 4: Monday at seven pm. 1179 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,919 Speaker 2: Go watch the Norse play this year. It's a good time. 1180 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 4: Twenty six after four o'clock. Apparently have not had time 1181 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,920 Speaker 4: to take our breath. We've had guest after guest, and 1182 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,680 Speaker 4: good guest after good guest, and we'll continue. Wes Miller 1183 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 4: scheduled to join us for a few minutes. We got 1184 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 4: to do sports headlines as well on ESPN fifteen thirty, 1185 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 4: Cincinnati Sports Station. 1186 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,920 Speaker 7: You've been listening to Football in the Nattie on ESPN 1187 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 7: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengal. 1188 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 18: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 1189 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 8: Traffic from the UC Health Traffic Center with a stroke 1190 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 8: every second counts, and so does your team home to 1191 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,439 Speaker 8: rapid life saving treatment and clinical trials. You see health 1192 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,200 Speaker 8: as the clear choice for stroke care. Learn more at 1193 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,920 Speaker 8: echealth dot com. 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Shoulder. 1203 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 4: Ian Rappaport of NFL Network says he's got an ac 1204 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,040 Speaker 4: joint Sprain Zach Taylor says he's day to day, but 1205 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 4: he didn't practice today. Neither did Trey Hendrickson. The Captain 1206 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson and no Go Today, Logan Wilson and no 1207 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 4: Go Today, Dalton Reisner and no Go Today. Dylan Fairchild 1208 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,640 Speaker 4: of full Go, Cedric Johnson a full go as well. 1209 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 4: Bengals Bears Sunday at one. The game is live on 1210 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,600 Speaker 4: ESPN fifteen thirty. Pregame coverage from the Holy Grail Excuse 1211 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:28,280 Speaker 4: Me Sunday Morning begins at nine am, and Bengals game 1212 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 4: plan is tonight from six to eight live on ESPN fifteen. 1213 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 2: Thirty, starring Dan Horde and Dave Lapham. 1214 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 4: FC Cincinnati's Nick Hagland named MLS Comeback Player of the Year, 1215 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 4: and deservedly so. By the way, I just got an 1216 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 4: email here from Gabe sent at four twenty four, ten 1217 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:56,000 Speaker 4: minutes ago, who says we should get Nick Hagland on 1218 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 4: the show. Gabe, thank you for this. 1219 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 15: Es. 1220 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 2: Nick was our guest thirty minutes ago. 1221 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,600 Speaker 4: Sc Cincinnati getting set for Game two of their series 1222 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,200 Speaker 4: against Columbus on Sunday night. That game will started six 1223 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 4: thirty tonight in LA. It's Game five of the World Series. 1224 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 4: Blue Jays bounced back last night, even up the series 1225 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,920 Speaker 4: on the heels of that amazing eighteen inning game the 1226 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:27,440 Speaker 4: night before tonight. It's Game five. Nothing else to really add. 1227 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 4: Game five tonight your starting pitchers for this evening. Blake 1228 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 4: Snell will throw against Trey Y Savage and the Columbus 1229 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 4: Bluejackets after their overtime win last night over Buffalo will 1230 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 4: host the Toronto Maple Leafs. All right, we're back. We're 1231 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 4: in another holding pattern. Wes Miller have to go into 1232 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 4: a meeting. Well, we'll step aside and see if we 1233 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,959 Speaker 4: can track down Wes, who was scheduled to join us next. 1234 01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 2: On ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 1235 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 18: Cincinnati's fifteen thirty Traffic. 1236 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 8: From the UC Health Traffic Center with a stroke, every 1237 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 8: second counts and so does your team home to rapid 1238 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 8: life saving treatment and clinical trials. You see health as 1239 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 8: the clear choice for stroke care. Learn more at UCHealth 1240 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:20,040 Speaker 8: dot com. On Cluffpike, it's an accident between Bruns Lane 1241 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 8: and Nagle Road in both directions right now. CRUs directing 1242 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 8: traffic around the area. State Road going to be your 1243 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,800 Speaker 8: best alternate route. On Montana Avenue, there's another accident at 1244 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,760 Speaker 8: Harrison Avenue. I met exelic with traffic. 1245 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:38,960 Speaker 4: This report is Sports Headlines are a service of Kelsey Shovel, 1246 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 4: home of lifetime power train protection and guaranteed credit approval 1247 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 4: from their family to yours for life, kelseyshow dot com. 1248 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 2: All right, Joe Flacco and no go today. Shoulder. 1249 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 4: Ian Rappaport of NFL Network says he's got an ac jointspraing. 1250 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 4: Zach Taylor says he's day to day, but he didn't 1251 01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:01,040 Speaker 4: practice today. Neither did Trey Hendrickson, The Captain. Trey Hendrickson 1252 01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 4: and no go Today, Logan Wilson and no Go Today, 1253 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 4: Dalton Reisner and no Goo Today. Dylan Fairchild of full go, 1254 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,560 Speaker 4: Cedric Johnson a full go as well. Bengals Bears Sunday 1255 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:15,480 Speaker 4: at one the game is live on ESPN fifteen thirty. 1256 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,600 Speaker 4: Pregame coverage from the Holy Grail excuse me Sunday Morning 1257 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:23,320 Speaker 4: begins at nine am, and Bengals game plan is tonight 1258 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,560 Speaker 4: from six to eight, live on ESPN fifteen thirty, starring 1259 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 4: Dan Horde and Dave Lapham. FC Cincinnati's Nick Hagland named 1260 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 4: MLS Comeback Player of the Year and deservedly so. By 1261 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 4: the way, I just got an email here from Gabe 1262 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:47,480 Speaker 4: sent at four twenty four, ten minutes ago, who says 1263 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 4: we should get Nick Hagland on the show. Gabe, thank 1264 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 4: you for the suggestion. Nick was our guest thirty minutes ago. 1265 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,800 Speaker 4: FC Cincinnati getting set for Game two of their series 1266 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 4: against Columbus on Sunday night. That game will start at 1267 01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 4: six thirty tonight in La. It's Game five of the 1268 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,480 Speaker 4: World Series. Blue Jays bounced back last night, even up 1269 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,840 Speaker 4: the series on the heels of that amazing eighteen inning 1270 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:20,800 Speaker 4: game the night before. Tonight, It's Game five. Nothing else 1271 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:25,080 Speaker 4: to really add. Game five tonight. Your starting pitchers for 1272 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 4: this evening. Blake'snew will throw against Trey you Savage and 1273 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 4: the Columbus Bluejackets after their overtime win last night over 1274 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,160 Speaker 4: Buffalo will host the Toronto Maple Leafs. All right, we're back. 1275 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,680 Speaker 4: We're in another holding pattern. Wes Miller have to go 1276 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 4: into a meeting. Well, we'll step aside and see if 1277 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:47,920 Speaker 4: we can track down Wes, who was scheduled to join 1278 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 4: us next. On ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 1279 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 18: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 1280 01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:00,440 Speaker 8: Traffic from the UC Health Traffic Center with the stroke 1281 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 8: every second counts, and so does your team home to 1282 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,720 Speaker 8: rapid life saving treatment and clinical trials. You see help 1283 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,560 Speaker 8: as the clear choice for stroke care. Learn more at 1284 01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,840 Speaker 8: ucehealth dot com. On Cluffpike, it's an accident between Bruns 1285 01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 8: Lane and Nagle Road in both directions right now. Cruise 1286 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,160 Speaker 8: directing traffic around the area. State Road going to be 1287 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:24,600 Speaker 8: your best alternate route. On Montana Avenue, there's another accident 1288 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 8: at Harrison Avenue. I'm at Ezelic with traffic. 1289 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 10: This report is on talk. 1290 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:34,160 Speaker 4: This is ESPN fifteen thirty on Moigart. Thanks for listening today. 1291 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,480 Speaker 4: The Chad and Rick College Basketball Spectacular is coming up 1292 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,080 Speaker 4: in the five o'clock hour, and it will be interrupted 1293 01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 4: midway through so we can talk with Richard Skinner about 1294 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,560 Speaker 4: Joe Flacco who did not practice today, and Mike Pennell 1295 01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:48,480 Speaker 4: and so much more. 1296 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 11: I was thinking about it. I mean, Chad used to 1297 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,520 Speaker 11: work with Skinny. Yeah, and Rick does a podcast Skinny. 1298 01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:55,840 Speaker 11: Couldn't we come up with a name for that? 1299 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,920 Speaker 4: Ooh, we should just have Skinny in here and let 1300 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 4: me leave for the to the day and just let 1301 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 4: those three guys do their thing. That that option is 1302 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 4: is on the table. We we are we're trying to 1303 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 4: we we hear they're trying to track down Wes Miller. 1304 01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 4: Are we gonna be stood up by? 1305 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:12,960 Speaker 16: What? 1306 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 6: See? 1307 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 2: This is? 1308 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,200 Speaker 4: You know that this is This is one of those 1309 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 4: instances where this is why that you know it's not 1310 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 4: a podcast. 1311 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,240 Speaker 2: This is a live radio show. 1312 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,200 Speaker 4: If this was a podcast, we could just sit around 1313 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,760 Speaker 4: and that's okay, we'll hit record once the coach calls no. 1314 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:27,040 Speaker 2: No, no no. 1315 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,919 Speaker 4: We we Instead we just go on and complain about 1316 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 4: the fact that the guest is late. 1317 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 2: So hopefully here Wes Miller in uh. 1318 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:38,600 Speaker 4: In just a few I could have I could have 1319 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:42,320 Speaker 4: continued my conversation with Darren Horn. Called Darren hornback. I'm 1320 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:46,200 Speaker 4: sure he'd love to chat with us. I'm sure Wes 1321 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 4: is doing something really important. And uh, when he has 1322 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 4: done with that, I'm I'm sure we'll hear from him. 1323 01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the hell I talk to Mike. You want 1324 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:01,600 Speaker 2: to talk UC basketball with me? 1325 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 5: Roll go with it? 1326 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,200 Speaker 4: Are you excited for the upcoming you see? Oh wait 1327 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:10,760 Speaker 4: a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Mike, I 1328 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,760 Speaker 4: hate to do this. I'm looking at the screen. Wes Miller. 1329 01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,160 Speaker 4: That's him, right? 1330 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 2: Does that him? Tarren? 1331 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:16,400 Speaker 19: Yes? 1332 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:17,520 Speaker 2: All right, you got to answer it. 1333 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:18,920 Speaker 11: Put them right on there. 1334 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:20,600 Speaker 4: You want me to do it? Okay, Hi, there you go. 1335 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:22,480 Speaker 4: There's the head coach of the Bearcats. Coach, it's Mo. 1336 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:31,919 Speaker 4: You're on the air. How you doing, coach? Okay, Hello, coach, 1337 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:32,520 Speaker 4: it's it's Mo. 1338 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:33,840 Speaker 2: You're on the radio. How's it going. 1339 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 19: Sorry, my staff just ran a phone to me, so 1340 01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,120 Speaker 19: I think they thought it was tomorrow night, not tonight. 1341 01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,600 Speaker 2: Oh that's all right, we we we could is everything? Okay, 1342 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,360 Speaker 2: We're great. Let's roll man, all right, let's do it. 1343 01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:47,760 Speaker 2: Let's well. I appreciate you doing this. 1344 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,160 Speaker 4: Cincinnati getting set to open up the season on Monday 1345 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 4: against against Western Carolina. It's awesome to have you. You've had 1346 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:58,040 Speaker 4: a chance to exhibition games. Some stuff went right some 1347 01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,800 Speaker 4: stuff went wrong. How have you used the Michigan and 1348 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,040 Speaker 4: Arkansas games to uh get your team ready for Monday. 1349 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:09,560 Speaker 19: I'll tell you what. I've been beating this drum pretty 1350 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,760 Speaker 19: hard for years with anybody that'll listen. But I wish 1351 01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:17,080 Speaker 19: we could play four or five opponents in the preseason. 1352 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,200 Speaker 19: I think when the season started it would make the 1353 01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:24,000 Speaker 19: products better. In November and December, we get more out 1354 01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:28,680 Speaker 19: of seeing another jersey and we do out of seven practices, 1355 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,560 Speaker 19: and so, you know, I think they were they were 1356 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,680 Speaker 19: good tools for our development and for our preseason. Uh, 1357 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 19: there was a lot to unpack from both games, and 1358 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 19: you know, we tried to tried to use them to 1359 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,960 Speaker 19: prepare for for Monday night when the thing tips up 1360 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:45,320 Speaker 19: for real. 1361 01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,960 Speaker 4: Through the two exhibition games, all the off season workouts, 1362 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,640 Speaker 4: and then the weeks of quote official practice. What have 1363 01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:58,200 Speaker 4: you come to like most about your team? 1364 01:07:58,280 --> 01:07:59,760 Speaker 14: You know, they're they've been in. 1365 01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,720 Speaker 19: About getting connected. I think when you've got a ton 1366 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,680 Speaker 19: of new faces, which happens in today's college basketball, in 1367 01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,600 Speaker 19: today's college athletics, you're going to have years that you 1368 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,360 Speaker 19: get a lot of turnover. And you know, one of 1369 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,080 Speaker 19: the goals that we've had for this team is in February. 1370 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:18,920 Speaker 19: We want to play like a team that's been together 1371 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,800 Speaker 19: for two to three years, even though we're not, and 1372 01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,360 Speaker 19: we got to make all of us have to make 1373 01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,920 Speaker 19: efforts to try to build those connections on and off 1374 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 19: the court, and this group's been very intentional about that. 1375 01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,640 Speaker 19: They've taken that intention to practice. Now. We weren't as 1376 01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,800 Speaker 19: good in practice last week, but it seems to be 1377 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,080 Speaker 19: clicking a little bit better again this week with trying 1378 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,160 Speaker 19: to make this about just getting better every single day. 1379 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,200 Speaker 19: So there's been some really good cultural type things that 1380 01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,360 Speaker 19: they've done. I want to be able to say the 1381 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,560 Speaker 19: same thing about this team at the end of January 1382 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,880 Speaker 19: and the end of February. 1383 01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,160 Speaker 5: But so far, so good. 1384 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:58,080 Speaker 4: Is blending so many new guys together along with the 1385 01:08:58,080 --> 01:08:59,240 Speaker 4: players you brought back. 1386 01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,280 Speaker 2: Is this way of doing things? Has it finally become normal? 1387 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:04,040 Speaker 16: Yeah? 1388 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:08,240 Speaker 19: I don't think it's it's abnormal at this point. You know, certainly, 1389 01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 19: the more retention you have of the right guys, I 1390 01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 19: think the job is a little easier on the coach 1391 01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 19: earlier in the year because just certain things that you 1392 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,840 Speaker 19: know carry over you can just kind of count on. 1393 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,519 Speaker 19: But this is going to happen all It is happening 1394 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,559 Speaker 19: all throughout college athletics, So trying to get the team 1395 01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:31,439 Speaker 19: ready in all facets what it takes to compete in 1396 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,840 Speaker 19: college basketball. But that's a that's a goal. That's why 1397 01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,800 Speaker 19: we had the summer practices. It's why I wish we 1398 01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:40,160 Speaker 19: had four exhibitions and that type of thing, but but 1399 01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,599 Speaker 19: it is. It's the new normal, and there'll be years 1400 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,879 Speaker 19: that you don't have that and you have quite an advantage. 1401 01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,439 Speaker 19: We don't have that advantage this year, so we got 1402 01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 19: to get to it quickly. 1403 01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:52,360 Speaker 4: Does it feel like this roster it's a little bit 1404 01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,680 Speaker 4: easier to kind of identify who's going to do what 1405 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:56,840 Speaker 4: at this stage in the season, at least. 1406 01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:02,479 Speaker 19: I think so we we in pretty clear, especially since 1407 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:07,200 Speaker 19: our last exhibition on role definition, you know, and it 1408 01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:11,599 Speaker 19: was interesting. We were in a ninety minute film session 1409 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,880 Speaker 19: followed by a practice that lasted as long until my 1410 01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,559 Speaker 19: ops on Sunday, till my ops got told me I 1411 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,160 Speaker 19: had no rules. 1412 01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:20,599 Speaker 14: I couldn't. 1413 01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:21,719 Speaker 19: I had to get them off the floor. 1414 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:24,240 Speaker 14: You know how that goes. 1415 01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,720 Speaker 19: So that was what great about that exhibition. It's a 1416 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,800 Speaker 19: chance to get to get everybody's damn attention but you know, 1417 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,640 Speaker 19: we're in that that that film session, and there was 1418 01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,720 Speaker 19: a bunch of opportunities to stop and go who does 1419 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,320 Speaker 19: this well? And they were able to answer a lot 1420 01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,640 Speaker 19: of the questions like you talked about, like who are 1421 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:41,320 Speaker 19: the best shooters? 1422 01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:42,880 Speaker 14: You know, who are the guys that should have. 1423 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,640 Speaker 19: More freedom there? So it's even with a lot of 1424 01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,599 Speaker 19: things without even having to tell them, they were able 1425 01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,479 Speaker 19: to tell themselves. And so I think there is some 1426 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:54,280 Speaker 19: clarity on what roles are that'll certainly keep evolving, you 1427 01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,880 Speaker 19: know with the new team over the next like four 1428 01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,880 Speaker 19: or five weeks, but I think we'll be more tof 1429 01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,960 Speaker 19: with offensive goals with this team than we were last year, 1430 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:06,320 Speaker 19: and even with new faces. 1431 01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,679 Speaker 4: Was was that something that you prioritize when you set 1432 01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:11,920 Speaker 4: out to build this roster when the off season started. 1433 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:17,800 Speaker 19: Absolutely, Like coaching in the Big Twelve the last two years, 1434 01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,600 Speaker 19: you know, the one thing that you learn is you 1435 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,760 Speaker 19: better have some old experienced guys, so you better have 1436 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:30,200 Speaker 19: some toughness and that's physical and mental toughness, and then 1437 01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,840 Speaker 19: you do have to have a level of skill. Like 1438 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:38,320 Speaker 19: at some point the coaches the players are old, physical 1439 01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,920 Speaker 19: and tough. So at some point if you don't have 1440 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,160 Speaker 19: enough skill, they can figure out how to defend you. 1441 01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,800 Speaker 19: And so adding you know, enough skill, enough shooting, enough 1442 01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:52,200 Speaker 19: decision making, enough shot creation. That was intentional, But those 1443 01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,639 Speaker 19: first two boxes we wanted to try to check as well, 1444 01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,639 Speaker 19: and I thought we did a nice job at least 1445 01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:01,599 Speaker 19: of checking those boxes with roster creation. Now it sounds good. 1446 01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:03,320 Speaker 19: Now we've got to go out and play that damn way, 1447 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:05,160 Speaker 19: you know, and that that's what that's what we've been 1448 01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,560 Speaker 19: working on this whole offseason, in this whole preseason. 1449 01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,639 Speaker 4: Your program has a general manager NBA champion Corey Evans, 1450 01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:15,720 Speaker 4: and that role is becoming common across college sports, specifically 1451 01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:20,040 Speaker 4: men's college basketball. Take me through the collaborative process with 1452 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,439 Speaker 4: your program with a coach and a general manager. 1453 01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:25,679 Speaker 14: Yeah. 1454 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:27,680 Speaker 19: I appreciate you asking the question though, because I think 1455 01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:31,040 Speaker 19: a lot of people, you know, assume that general managers 1456 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:34,839 Speaker 19: in college basketball is the same thing as a general manager, 1457 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,080 Speaker 19: and uh and pro Well, I guess we are pro sports, 1458 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,280 Speaker 19: but I mean, and if we can college state to state, 1459 01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:43,760 Speaker 19: but in college basketball is different than another pro sports. 1460 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,320 Speaker 14: So you know, in the g the. 1461 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:51,080 Speaker 19: GM of a normal professional franchise is usually the guy 1462 01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,479 Speaker 19: that hires the coach, right like similar to the athletic director, 1463 01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,520 Speaker 19: that's not the case with the way that we're implementing 1464 01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:01,640 Speaker 19: that role at Cincinnati. That was higher that myself and 1465 01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,519 Speaker 19: my staff made and Corey is just another part of 1466 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,920 Speaker 19: our staff. What I looked for was the value of 1467 01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,559 Speaker 19: having somebody that three hundred and sixty five days a 1468 01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:16,320 Speaker 19: year thinks about player personnel in every single way, whether 1469 01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:21,799 Speaker 19: that's recruiting, whether it's retention, whether that's the contractual side, 1470 01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:26,200 Speaker 19: whether it's the financial side, which is whether it's the 1471 01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,960 Speaker 19: fundraising side. I mean, there's so many dynamics that have 1472 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,840 Speaker 19: made this job different, you know than it was four 1473 01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:36,960 Speaker 19: or five years ago. Having somebody that just focuses on 1474 01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,519 Speaker 19: a lot of those dynamics, I think, I thought and 1475 01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:44,519 Speaker 19: now I believe, has great value. And then with Corey 1476 01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,519 Speaker 19: there was a long standing relationship. He's somebody that I've 1477 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,840 Speaker 19: known for well over a decade from back when he was, 1478 01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:54,200 Speaker 19: you know, in college, starting his own scouting service at 1479 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:59,080 Speaker 19: Old Dominion in servicing division on programs. So he's a friend, 1480 01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,679 Speaker 19: a professional friend, and somebody who's who was His career 1481 01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:07,720 Speaker 19: followed and he was ready for a new opportunity and 1482 01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,439 Speaker 19: a new challenge. So it really did work out for us. 1483 01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,680 Speaker 4: I cannot wait for Monday. And now the time that 1484 01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,280 Speaker 4: you thought you were going to be talking to me 1485 01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:16,320 Speaker 4: tomorrow is wide open. 1486 01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:17,559 Speaker 2: You can come up with something else to do. 1487 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:20,120 Speaker 14: There you go. 1488 01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:23,080 Speaker 19: Somebody made a air but that ship the turnover, so 1489 01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,880 Speaker 19: we sprint back and played the next If we had 1490 01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,000 Speaker 19: more than more than one of those, we got a problem. 1491 01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,080 Speaker 19: But that's the first turnover of the week from the stats. 1492 01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,160 Speaker 4: You know what if that's if that's the worst thing 1493 01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,639 Speaker 4: that happens this season, you guys are going to cut 1494 01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:36,040 Speaker 4: down net. 1495 01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,640 Speaker 2: So I appreciate it as always. Coach, Thanks so much. 1496 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:39,360 Speaker 2: We'll see you Monday. 1497 01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:40,840 Speaker 14: Okay, thanks mom. 1498 01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:44,920 Speaker 4: There you go, Wes Miller getting set for Monday night, 1499 01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:48,000 Speaker 4: Cincinnati hosting West Western Carolina. 1500 01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:52,679 Speaker 2: There you go, all right, thanks, ten away from five o'clock, Taren, 1501 01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:54,400 Speaker 2: How are we on time? What doll? We go like 1502 01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:55,080 Speaker 2: eight minutes here? 1503 01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,080 Speaker 11: Yes, And just to let you know, our guests are. 1504 01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,559 Speaker 2: Here, both of Chad and Chadd and Ricker here. 1505 01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:05,280 Speaker 4: Yes, we have to give a skinny heads up that 1506 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,720 Speaker 4: we're going to be calling him. 1507 01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:09,639 Speaker 2: There's a lot. These folks have a lot. 1508 01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:12,719 Speaker 4: These folks have a lot By the way, Richard Patino 1509 01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:13,880 Speaker 4: is going to be on the show tomorrow. 1510 01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,200 Speaker 2: These folks have a have a lot going on. They're 1511 01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:18,479 Speaker 2: very busy. I get it. 1512 01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,360 Speaker 4: By the way, I overslept from my hit with Gary 1513 01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:22,639 Speaker 4: Jeff Walker two weeks ago. 1514 01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,920 Speaker 2: Like it, it happens a big deal. 1515 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,200 Speaker 11: You want me to send the boys there now a 1516 01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:30,800 Speaker 11: little preview for the next hour. 1517 01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,799 Speaker 2: Why not now send him in? What the hell. 1518 01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,080 Speaker 4: In the interim? Because I did put his call on 1519 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,200 Speaker 4: the air and then had to put him back on hold. Mike, 1520 01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,360 Speaker 4: We had to put you on hold. Our apologies. 1521 01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,360 Speaker 2: How you doing, Mike? Are you okay? You recovered from 1522 01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:51,360 Speaker 2: last night? Mike? Okay? Well, can you take us off 1523 01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:52,160 Speaker 2: the speakerphone? 1524 01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:54,680 Speaker 14: Yeah? I was trying to. 1525 01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:03,599 Speaker 20: Okay everything okay, I get I hope huh all right? 1526 01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:05,480 Speaker 14: Is that? 1527 01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:07,719 Speaker 2: Yeah? You sound better? 1528 01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,800 Speaker 4: Did you not have as much fun as at Game 1529 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,280 Speaker 4: four as you did Game three? 1530 01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:13,160 Speaker 6: Oh? 1531 01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:16,040 Speaker 14: Of course not. I'mti pissed off with the Dodgers right now. 1532 01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,080 Speaker 2: I can't see straight because they lost a game. 1533 01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:23,600 Speaker 20: No, because two guys are carrying the team. Everybody everybody 1534 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:28,080 Speaker 20: else is hitting their their team batting averages two fifteen. 1535 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,520 Speaker 14: Toronto's hitting They've got six guys. 1536 01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:33,559 Speaker 20: Hitting over three hundred. 1537 01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,960 Speaker 14: Yeah, and they're starting and two of them over four hundred. 1538 01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:37,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1539 01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,559 Speaker 14: That puts that on ball. 1540 01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,719 Speaker 4: That lineup just just comes at you now, So yeah, 1541 01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:47,840 Speaker 4: I understand the frustration. So yesterday you were exuding confidence 1542 01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:52,720 Speaker 4: and today it sounds to me like you're you're you're 1543 01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:54,200 Speaker 4: feeling kind of shaky about this. 1544 01:16:55,360 --> 01:17:00,200 Speaker 14: Well, it's because that damn bullpen. So Hey was one 1545 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,759 Speaker 14: just fine, he pitched the six, gives up two runs, 1546 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:04,880 Speaker 14: So what you knew Guerrera was going to bust out 1547 01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:06,880 Speaker 14: of as many salts. So it's a two run homer. 1548 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,719 Speaker 14: It's not the end of the world. But then the bullpen, 1549 01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,160 Speaker 14: so you know, there it goes right out the window. 1550 01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:13,479 Speaker 2: Bye bye, see you later. 1551 01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:17,320 Speaker 4: I mean, you know they have Blake Snell pitching. He's 1552 01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,480 Speaker 4: been awesome in the postseason. All hope is not lost. 1553 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,960 Speaker 14: No no, no, no, I'm not lost. 1554 01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:24,879 Speaker 20: But I haven't even wondering. 1555 01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,320 Speaker 14: And Dave Roberts is not inclined to do this. 1556 01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,760 Speaker 17: But the talk. 1557 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,519 Speaker 14: Around LA and the La Times especially is that he 1558 01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,840 Speaker 14: may juggle that batting in order around a little bit, 1559 01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,679 Speaker 14: not show Hey and not Freddie, but he might drop 1560 01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:39,960 Speaker 14: Moki down a little bit. The problem is none of 1561 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:40,519 Speaker 14: them are hitting. 1562 01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:45,599 Speaker 20: Yeah, so he's talking about putting key k in the 1563 01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:46,240 Speaker 20: second hole. 1564 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,240 Speaker 14: Who knows, who knows what he'll do. But anyway, I 1565 01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,599 Speaker 14: feel good about our pitching nurse the lay our starters. 1566 01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,400 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, Mookie is not swinging a very good bat 1567 01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:57,240 Speaker 4: right now. We talked about how he was one for 1568 01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,160 Speaker 4: eight in the eighteen in the game, and huh, I 1569 01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,599 Speaker 4: get it. He's he's got to provide some protection for 1570 01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,400 Speaker 4: for show. Heyo, Tani, were you surprised that they pitched 1571 01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,280 Speaker 4: the show? Hey, the way they did, they were playing 1572 01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:10,080 Speaker 4: from ahead, and so you're not gonna, you know, you're 1573 01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,040 Speaker 4: not gonna needlessly put the guy in the base when 1574 01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:13,200 Speaker 4: you're playing from ahead, I guess. 1575 01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:14,720 Speaker 2: But they did throw to him last night. 1576 01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:16,800 Speaker 14: Yeah they did. 1577 01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:20,040 Speaker 20: And uh, I think because of the game one, Schnyder 1578 01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:21,080 Speaker 20: started picking. 1579 01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,080 Speaker 14: Up a lot more confidence in Beaver and uh and 1580 01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:25,400 Speaker 14: Beaver pits a good game. 1581 01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:27,519 Speaker 2: He did, he did well? 1582 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:28,679 Speaker 7: Uh, basically he did. 1583 01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,200 Speaker 14: He surprised me. I did, because you know, he hasn't 1584 01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,479 Speaker 14: done lights out since he wanted to say young and 1585 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,719 Speaker 14: then had the surgery. So if he hadn't then lights 1586 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:36,479 Speaker 14: out at all, So. 1587 01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:37,960 Speaker 2: You're not able to go to game five? 1588 01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,400 Speaker 14: No, and I kind of I cook a lot at 1589 01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:46,080 Speaker 14: you even Yeah, physically, I was just I shouldn't have went. 1590 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,840 Speaker 14: It was my doctor even said Mike Mann, maybe you 1591 01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:50,840 Speaker 14: shouldn't go. No, I'm going to go. You know, you 1592 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,000 Speaker 14: always think you know more than any other person than 1593 01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:54,280 Speaker 14: you usually know him so much. 1594 01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,200 Speaker 4: You know, I noticed that I noticed that Mary Hart 1595 01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:58,559 Speaker 4: made all night innings last night. 1596 01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:04,519 Speaker 14: I forgot all about that. I said something to one 1597 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,519 Speaker 14: of the guys going down to the game about it. 1598 01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,360 Speaker 14: He looked at me, like Mary who And he's older 1599 01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:10,640 Speaker 14: than me. 1600 01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:12,080 Speaker 2: He didn't know who Mary Hart is. 1601 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:14,920 Speaker 14: Well, he was one of he you know, he's a 1602 01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,800 Speaker 14: different kind of dude. He's from North Dakota and you know, 1603 01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,599 Speaker 14: kind of a woodsman, veteran guy. I'm sure he wasn't 1604 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:25,800 Speaker 14: into watching entertainment tonight ever. Ever, ever, probably didn't have 1605 01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,800 Speaker 14: a TV shit, you know. I mean, you run into 1606 01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,000 Speaker 14: all kinds of guys when it comes to veterans from 1607 01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:33,680 Speaker 14: all walks of life. But how about your knicks last night? 1608 01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:34,800 Speaker 14: I weren't impressed. 1609 01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:36,400 Speaker 2: No, and you shouldn't have been. 1610 01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:40,640 Speaker 4: I was relieved because Jalen Brunston got injured in the 1611 01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,559 Speaker 4: fourth quarter last night, and that looked worse than it was. 1612 01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:45,639 Speaker 4: He didn't miss a second of the game. They played 1613 01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:49,439 Speaker 4: no defense last night. They haven't played defense really at 1614 01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,879 Speaker 4: all in the first four games they've played, aside from 1615 01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,400 Speaker 4: I think the first half against Boston in their second game. 1616 01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:57,760 Speaker 4: That was not a It was not a strong performance 1617 01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,000 Speaker 4: by the road team in Milwaukee last night. 1618 01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,480 Speaker 14: Now what and I got two Bengals questions. 1619 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,880 Speaker 2: Real quickly, Let's talk about the Bengals, please. 1620 01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:17,559 Speaker 14: Number one of the vaunted, the vaunted nor Yeah, Baltimore 1621 01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,000 Speaker 14: said that at the beginning of the year, nobody no. 1622 01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:21,960 Speaker 4: I think a lot of folks thought Baltimore was going 1623 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:23,560 Speaker 4: to run away with it. And I still think the 1624 01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:27,000 Speaker 4: Ravens are going to win the division. I I this 1625 01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,920 Speaker 4: is not a reaction to Pittsburgh losing their last two games. 1626 01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,840 Speaker 4: That defense, to me is old. I don't think they 1627 01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:38,160 Speaker 4: have explosiveness offensively. The Bengals issues have been off discussed here. 1628 01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:42,400 Speaker 4: I think Baltimore getting that went over Chicago without Lamar Jackson. 1629 01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,479 Speaker 4: Now the fact that their schedule eases up, they still, 1630 01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,479 Speaker 4: despite their injuries, have top to bottom the best roster 1631 01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,599 Speaker 4: in the division and the division is now wide or open. 1632 01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:55,519 Speaker 4: Because of Pittsburgh losing consecutive games, the Bengals might have 1633 01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,840 Speaker 4: to play Jake Browning on Sunday. I haven't looked at 1634 01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,599 Speaker 4: the AFC North eye. It's last I checked. Baltimore one 1635 01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:03,960 Speaker 4: in five was still plus one sixty to win it. 1636 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,479 Speaker 4: I would go ahead and make that wager right now. 1637 01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,599 Speaker 14: Yeah, I already did. Yeah, you're running with one sixty. 1638 01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:10,680 Speaker 14: You're dead on it. 1639 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,640 Speaker 2: Yes, Hey, I got like thirty seconds, go ahead. 1640 01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:15,320 Speaker 14: Okay. 1641 01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:19,080 Speaker 20: My last question, mister lul an Arumo, who left here 1642 01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:23,280 Speaker 20: has tainted goods, but really overall was a damn good 1643 01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:26,240 Speaker 20: decoordinator for a team and really helped us get to 1644 01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,479 Speaker 20: the Super Bowl. And he's got the sixth rank defense 1645 01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:33,280 Speaker 20: in Indianapolis, averaging ninth giving up nineteen points a game. 1646 01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,000 Speaker 14: And I wonder why. We know why because he's got 1647 01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:40,920 Speaker 14: some personnel to use to do his schemes with here 1648 01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:41,400 Speaker 14: he didn't. 1649 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:42,799 Speaker 2: You're you're one hundred percent. 1650 01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,639 Speaker 4: Duke Tobin has built these defenses, Mike, thank you very much, 1651 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:50,439 Speaker 4: in the draft, and they have yielded no good players. 1652 01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:52,759 Speaker 4: There's nobody else you want to sign to a second contract, 1653 01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:55,600 Speaker 4: and hasn't been for a while. Was talking with a 1654 01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,120 Speaker 4: buddy of mine about this. We were texting earlier. The 1655 01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,479 Speaker 4: number of guys that they have drafted it over the 1656 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:04,479 Speaker 4: last ten years that you haven't even wanted to sniff 1657 01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:08,760 Speaker 4: a second contract with is astounding. There have been exceptions, 1658 01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:12,000 Speaker 4: but unfortunately the rule has been they draft players and 1659 01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:14,599 Speaker 4: then don't want to keep them for years five and beyond. 1660 01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:18,200 Speaker 4: Chad and Rick on College Hoops Next on ESPN fifteen thirty. 1661 01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:22,200 Speaker 1: Now your chance to win one thousand dollars entered this 1662 01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:28,880 Speaker 1: nationwide keyword on our website. Bank. That's bank enter it now. 1663 01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:32,639 Speaker 2: Hey, what's up? 1664 01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:37,200 Speaker 4: I'm oh heer. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Thanks for listening. 1665 01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:41,800 Speaker 4: Hopefully you're having like the most awesome Wednesday ever. God 1666 01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,400 Speaker 4: knows we are. I can't tell you how many years 1667 01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:47,720 Speaker 4: we've been doing this where we have Chad Brendel and 1668 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:51,599 Speaker 4: Rick Browing in studio to preview the college basketball season. 1669 01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:53,200 Speaker 4: I feel like one day we're going to end up 1670 01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,320 Speaker 4: doing this in like September. 1671 01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,280 Speaker 2: Because the season gets earlier and earlier. 1672 01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:01,880 Speaker 4: Chad Brendel Bearcat Journal dot com, Brooring Musketeer Report dot com. 1673 01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:06,280 Speaker 4: You'll also hear him on NKU radio broadcast both in studio. 1674 01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:08,960 Speaker 4: We're gonna have to interrupt this in fifteen minutes to 1675 01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,519 Speaker 4: talk to Richard Skinner, but you guys know him well, 1676 01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,000 Speaker 4: so because there is Bengals news, Joe Flacco has a 1677 01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,280 Speaker 4: bad shoulder, and we've got to talk about the game 1678 01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:18,519 Speaker 4: on Sunday, So we will interrupt for the first time 1679 01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:21,800 Speaker 4: ever the Chad and Rick College Basketball Spectacular to talk 1680 01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:22,280 Speaker 4: to Skinny. 1681 01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:27,400 Speaker 2: But that's okay, right, sure, How you doing, guys, great? 1682 01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:27,800 Speaker 9: How are you? 1683 01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:28,760 Speaker 2: What's going on? 1684 01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:29,320 Speaker 9: It's time? 1685 01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:33,559 Speaker 2: It is time. I'm I'm also ready to go. 1686 01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:36,679 Speaker 13: I don't think I'm gonna make a lot of people 1687 01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:38,639 Speaker 13: happy today, No, no, really? 1688 01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:39,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1689 01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,360 Speaker 9: Do you guys love exhibition season? I like it. I 1690 01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:42,840 Speaker 9: love it. 1691 01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:47,800 Speaker 4: I do like it. It's it's everybody has the same take. 1692 01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,080 Speaker 4: I just I wish these games could be played during 1693 01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:53,120 Speaker 4: the regular season. Kentucky Purdue was a fun watch. I 1694 01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:54,080 Speaker 4: want that game to matter. 1695 01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:56,479 Speaker 21: Yeah, I just don't think they're going to do that. 1696 01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,960 Speaker 21: And this is a great alternative. Still see the see 1697 01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:04,720 Speaker 21: the game happened without a lot of pomp and circumstances. 1698 01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:07,040 Speaker 9: Hype around it. You know, it wasn't a fun watch. 1699 01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:08,360 Speaker 2: Arkansas Cincinnati. 1700 01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:09,400 Speaker 9: That was not a fun one. 1701 01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:12,200 Speaker 2: No, that was miserable. That was miserable. 1702 01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,439 Speaker 13: First time I had ever been to Chrysler Arena. Yeah, 1703 01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:16,920 Speaker 13: nice place. Had a good time. 1704 01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,200 Speaker 4: The one thing I do miss is I missed the 1705 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,960 Speaker 4: the Athletes and Action game because that was what I 1706 01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:22,920 Speaker 4: enjoyed most about. 1707 01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:26,040 Speaker 2: That was. Oh yeah, that guy, Oh I remember that dude, 1708 01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:27,759 Speaker 2: Marathon Oil. Oh yeah. 1709 01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:29,840 Speaker 4: And you would see these guys from like four or 1710 01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,200 Speaker 4: five years prior that you would kind of wonder whatever 1711 01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,280 Speaker 4: happened to him, And they'd be playing for Marathon Oil 1712 01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:36,759 Speaker 4: or Athletes in Action. 1713 01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,559 Speaker 21: And they can smoke a cigarette at halftime. Those are 1714 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:40,600 Speaker 21: great games. 1715 01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,080 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. Yeah, the I watched the whole 1716 01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:44,880 Speaker 2: Arkansas game. 1717 01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,479 Speaker 4: I watched the Michigan game after the facts, but I 1718 01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:50,920 Speaker 4: watched the first half of Arkansas live and. 1719 01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,599 Speaker 2: My takeaway was, holy hell, Arkansas is playing really hard. 1720 01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:57,639 Speaker 13: It's a perfect setting for coach Coach cal team where 1721 01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:01,200 Speaker 13: teams aren't really trying to like game plan and stop them, 1722 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,000 Speaker 13: and they can run up and down the floor and 1723 01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:07,960 Speaker 13: overwhelm you with their athleticism. They overwhelmed Cincinnati with their athleticism. 1724 01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,240 Speaker 13: I do think like when you get to like Houston, 1725 01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:14,400 Speaker 13: Iowa State, some teams like that, Like a couple of 1726 01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:16,880 Speaker 13: red flags went up for some teams Cincinnati will be 1727 01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:20,880 Speaker 13: facing because I just don't think they're overly long and 1728 01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:23,640 Speaker 13: athletic at guard. I think they can they can be 1729 01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:27,120 Speaker 13: pretty good at guard. But a team like that could 1730 01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:28,679 Speaker 13: very well give them a lot of issues. 1731 01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,320 Speaker 2: So let's not talk about that one. Let's talk about 1732 01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:31,920 Speaker 2: the Michigan game. 1733 01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,439 Speaker 4: Okay, because for the first half of that one, I 1734 01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:36,559 Speaker 4: immensely enjoyed the Shawn of Bay of experience. 1735 01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:40,080 Speaker 13: Yeah, he's he's gonna be a freshman. He's gonna have 1736 01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,240 Speaker 13: his ups and downs. But when he hits his ups, 1737 01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:48,439 Speaker 13: it's gonna really really excite this fan base. Offensively, he's 1738 01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:51,680 Speaker 13: just insanely gifted. Yeah, you know, he can pass, he 1739 01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:56,240 Speaker 13: can shoot, he can drive, has good feel for offense. 1740 01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:01,000 Speaker 13: So when he's playing, well, you know, things are going 1741 01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:03,200 Speaker 13: to be very fun. But there's gonna be some games 1742 01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,200 Speaker 13: that he that he struggles too, that people are going 1743 01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,320 Speaker 13: to have to smile through. 1744 01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:14,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, here they are, They're ready. I listened to the 1745 01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:19,799 Speaker 4: Murray Steak game, and that I saw Richard Patino's tweets 1746 01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:23,120 Speaker 4: after the Murray steak game one in which he referenced 1747 01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,519 Speaker 4: the beer right the Musky Lagger, which has a cool can, 1748 01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:29,000 Speaker 4: and then he went out of his way to mention 1749 01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:33,320 Speaker 4: on social media the game doesn't counts. I can't find 1750 01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:35,760 Speaker 4: anybody who thinks the Musketeers are going to be really good. 1751 01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,200 Speaker 4: So it kind of felt like that just fed that 1752 01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,000 Speaker 4: that narrative, so to speak. What was most troubling about 1753 01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:44,000 Speaker 4: these seventy five seventy home loss to the Racers. 1754 01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,839 Speaker 21: I think that if you were there in person watching it, 1755 01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,000 Speaker 21: it didn't feel like a fluke. Like if they lined 1756 01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:50,679 Speaker 21: it up and played it again this weekend, I don't 1757 01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:52,479 Speaker 21: know that you'd be more confident that Xavier was going 1758 01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:54,080 Speaker 21: to come away with a win. And that was just 1759 01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,160 Speaker 21: like a one off bad night. And then that was 1760 01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,679 Speaker 21: kind of backed up by the fact that the word 1761 01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:02,360 Speaker 21: coming out of the secret scrimmage against Toledo was that 1762 01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:05,160 Speaker 21: they also lost that one and had nineteen turnovers and 1763 01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:08,760 Speaker 21: didn't play very well at times. So yeah, there's a 1764 01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,040 Speaker 21: lot of concerning things coming out of the preseason from 1765 01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,040 Speaker 21: a is this team going to farewell? 1766 01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,000 Speaker 9: From a wins loss perspective. 1767 01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:16,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't find anybody who thinks the answer is. 1768 01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:19,760 Speaker 9: Yes, Yeah, I think that's pretty much the case right now. 1769 01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:22,920 Speaker 21: I mean, we did our season preview podcast last night 1770 01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,280 Speaker 21: for Musketeer Report, and I had them at eleven and 1771 01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:28,080 Speaker 21: twenty overall, five and fifteen in the Big East. 1772 01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:29,519 Speaker 2: Eleven and twenty. 1773 01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:31,920 Speaker 9: Correct. 1774 01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,400 Speaker 4: That's hard for those of us who have followed that 1775 01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:37,000 Speaker 4: program to wrap our brains around. 1776 01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1777 01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,160 Speaker 21: I think it's just a little bit different this year, 1778 01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:44,040 Speaker 21: having to not only replace an entire roster. But you 1779 01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,360 Speaker 21: were in a situation last year during the transfer portal 1780 01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:50,519 Speaker 21: where you had the rules changing by July first. You 1781 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,680 Speaker 21: had these football schools with nil collectives that were like, 1782 01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:55,280 Speaker 21: we got to dump the whole collective right now before 1783 01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,920 Speaker 21: July first, upfront, and the school's also gonna pay guys 1784 01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,040 Speaker 21: after July first, so we're kind of double dipping in 1785 01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,679 Speaker 21: terms of nil. David didn't have that, so they kind 1786 01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:05,880 Speaker 21: of were recruiting an entire roster in the transfer portal 1787 01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,320 Speaker 21: with one hand tied behind their back. I think they'll 1788 01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:09,920 Speaker 21: be in a much better spot for at least this 1789 01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:12,720 Speaker 21: upcoming spring before. I'm sure the rules could change again 1790 01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,519 Speaker 21: after that, but this past year it was a very 1791 01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,120 Speaker 21: difficult year to be trying to rebuild an entire roster, 1792 01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:19,400 Speaker 21: and I think that shows. 1793 01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:21,960 Speaker 2: What should they be at least decent at this season. 1794 01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:23,920 Speaker 9: That's a really good question. 1795 01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:27,240 Speaker 21: We talked about that last night on the podcast like Strengths, Weaknesses, 1796 01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:29,360 Speaker 21: Where do you go and we try to say, what 1797 01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,280 Speaker 21: are they going to hang their hat on? What are 1798 01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:34,040 Speaker 21: you sure about them being good at? 1799 01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:36,960 Speaker 9: There's not a lot there at least yet. 1800 01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:38,360 Speaker 21: And part of it is just that we haven't seen 1801 01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:39,720 Speaker 21: them a lot, right, I mean, we don't know it's 1802 01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,280 Speaker 21: an entirely team. All these guys are making some type 1803 01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:45,360 Speaker 21: of step up and level of competition. So I don't 1804 01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,360 Speaker 21: think there's one thing that I've seen so far where 1805 01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:49,160 Speaker 21: I'm like, yeah, that looks really good. 1806 01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:50,160 Speaker 9: You could say on. 1807 01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:52,840 Speaker 21: Paper, they look like a long team, but I haven't 1808 01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:55,599 Speaker 21: seen that equate to like better rebounding or really good 1809 01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:58,240 Speaker 21: defense yet. So I'm still waiting to see what that 1810 01:28:58,320 --> 01:28:58,800 Speaker 21: strength is. 1811 01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:02,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels like the Big East is gonna be 1812 01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:06,200 Speaker 4: the non league schedule is what it is, so to speak. 1813 01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,040 Speaker 2: It is last place in the Big East possible. 1814 01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:13,040 Speaker 9: I think it's in play. 1815 01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:13,240 Speaker 10: Now. 1816 01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:15,760 Speaker 21: Here's the one thing where we might be and I 1817 01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:17,960 Speaker 21: might be a little off and overblowing how much they 1818 01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,280 Speaker 21: could struggle. Is I think seven through eleven in the 1819 01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:21,960 Speaker 21: Big East is all gonna be pretty bad, right. I 1820 01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:23,439 Speaker 21: think a lot of those schools were in a similar 1821 01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,800 Speaker 21: spot last year during the transfer portal, so and a 1822 01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:27,799 Speaker 21: lot of them were turning over a lot of their rosters. 1823 01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,479 Speaker 21: So they're all in a spot where who knows what 1824 01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:33,040 Speaker 21: they're gonna look like, and it could be pretty bad 1825 01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:34,120 Speaker 21: at the bottom of the conference. 1826 01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:35,240 Speaker 9: So maybe they'll pick. 1827 01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:37,639 Speaker 21: Up a few more wins along the way in conference 1828 01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:40,040 Speaker 21: play than you might otherwise think a team like this 1829 01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,840 Speaker 21: would in the Big East. Right, But yeah, it's I 1830 01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:44,760 Speaker 21: think it's in play that they could be anywhere from 1831 01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:46,439 Speaker 21: like eight to eleven in this conference. 1832 01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:47,679 Speaker 2: Why are you gonna make people mad? 1833 01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:48,440 Speaker 9: Chad? 1834 01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:51,120 Speaker 13: I think this has a chance to be a pretty 1835 01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:54,839 Speaker 13: good team. But when I start looking at the Big twelve, 1836 01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:57,160 Speaker 13: where do they fit? 1837 01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:58,439 Speaker 9: Yeah? I mean. 1838 01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:04,400 Speaker 13: Season Paul, they were picked eighth, eighth, eighth, is you're 1839 01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:08,599 Speaker 13: squarely on the bubble with very very little margin for error. 1840 01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:10,000 Speaker 9: I think you could. 1841 01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:12,679 Speaker 13: I think I would probably have had them seventh ahead 1842 01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:16,479 Speaker 13: of Baylor, because I don't know that I love Baylor's roster. 1843 01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,040 Speaker 13: I think I like Cincinnati's roster a little bit more. Right, 1844 01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:21,440 Speaker 13: when Dan Skilling scores twenty four against. 1845 01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,960 Speaker 9: Him, that's gonna happen. 1846 01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,000 Speaker 2: This is how my life works. 1847 01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:31,760 Speaker 13: You're gonna watch vintage Dan Skillings, Yes at Fifth Third Arena. Yes, 1848 01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:37,120 Speaker 13: But they have against those seven teams, they have eight games, 1849 01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:42,679 Speaker 13: four on the road, four at home. How many Houston, 1850 01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:50,679 Speaker 13: Kansas BYU Iowa State, Arizona? You know of that group, 1851 01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:54,240 Speaker 13: what are you confident thinking their record will be in 1852 01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:56,560 Speaker 13: those eight games? 1853 01:30:57,320 --> 01:31:00,160 Speaker 9: Right? And that's this is an audio. 1854 01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:03,679 Speaker 2: I don't know how to describe the face I just made. 1855 01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,360 Speaker 13: That's where I'm at right, Like, I think it's got 1856 01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:09,360 Speaker 13: a chance to be a pretty good team. The only 1857 01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:14,719 Speaker 13: thing that has me maybe a little feeling a little 1858 01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,599 Speaker 13: different than the past couple of years on that front. 1859 01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:21,400 Speaker 13: A lot more freshmen oriented at the top of the 1860 01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:24,840 Speaker 13: Big twelve this year, so there's gonna be some a 1861 01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:28,880 Speaker 13: little bit more instability than we've seen with these veteran 1862 01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:32,799 Speaker 13: you know rosters that Like, there's teams in the NBA 1863 01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:37,360 Speaker 13: that are younger than Houston, so that'll maybe add a 1864 01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:40,920 Speaker 13: little bit of variance. But if they're in that six, seven, 1865 01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:46,519 Speaker 13: eight range, you're walking a tightrope. You know, you've got 1866 01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:50,559 Speaker 13: to thread a pretty tight needle. And I don't see 1867 01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:55,280 Speaker 13: a roster that I think you two and six, if 1868 01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:57,120 Speaker 13: you go two and two at home and you lose 1869 01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:00,439 Speaker 13: the four road games, if you feel okay, two and 1870 01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:03,880 Speaker 13: six in those eight upper echelon games, and then you've 1871 01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:07,200 Speaker 13: got ten games, yeah to win seven right, and half 1872 01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:08,880 Speaker 13: of them on the road and half of them. 1873 01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:09,240 Speaker 9: On the road. 1874 01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:13,000 Speaker 13: So I'm looking at it though, and I'm kind of 1875 01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,880 Speaker 13: squinting my eyes and going, if this goes really well, 1876 01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:21,320 Speaker 13: there might be a really tight rope to walk here 1877 01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:22,400 Speaker 13: for this roster. 1878 01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:25,920 Speaker 2: And that's if it goes really well. Yeah. How much 1879 01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:27,560 Speaker 2: are they gonna miss Jalen Haynes. 1880 01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:28,439 Speaker 9: Quite a bit? 1881 01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:32,680 Speaker 13: Because I think he gave them some of that physicality 1882 01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:34,080 Speaker 13: that last year's team was missing. 1883 01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:35,040 Speaker 9: Inside. 1884 01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:38,559 Speaker 13: You're gonna have it on the perimeter with with Buck Harris, 1885 01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:42,040 Speaker 13: You're gonna have it with Kirkers. It's just a little 1886 01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:44,759 Speaker 13: toughness that they didn't have last year. I thought Jalen 1887 01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:48,400 Speaker 13: Haynes was that guy in the interior. I like bobon Miller, 1888 01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:53,559 Speaker 13: I like Mustapha Chom. Nobody's gonna be confused that we're 1889 01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:57,080 Speaker 13: not gonna watch the gaming. Guy's a junkyard dog, right like, 1890 01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:01,920 Speaker 13: So Jalen Haynes was kind of that guy. So I 1891 01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:03,760 Speaker 13: do think there's a misconception. I think a lot of 1892 01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:07,840 Speaker 13: people saw Jalen Haynes's size and thought he was like Danny. 1893 01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:10,280 Speaker 2: Fordson right basket. That's not his game. 1894 01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:13,280 Speaker 13: A lot of this game is catch up fifteen feet, 1895 01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:19,240 Speaker 13: turn and face pass drive. Take advantage of his size 1896 01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:22,840 Speaker 13: is a mismatch, but it's not gonna be like this 1897 01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,240 Speaker 13: big loss in back to the basket scoring because I 1898 01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:27,400 Speaker 13: don't think you would have gotten a little bit of 1899 01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:30,599 Speaker 13: that from him. But in watching his game, I never 1900 01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:34,000 Speaker 13: walked away thinking that's a guy that you just duck in, 1901 01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,599 Speaker 13: have him put his hand up, throw it to him 1902 01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:38,759 Speaker 13: and he's gonna put a move and lay. 1903 01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,559 Speaker 9: It off the backboard. That that wasn't his game. 1904 01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:45,160 Speaker 13: But they're gonna miss him because offensively, he was the 1905 01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:49,880 Speaker 13: most offensively advanced big on the roster. And now you're 1906 01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:53,559 Speaker 13: playing on a team that I don't think it's gonna 1907 01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:57,280 Speaker 13: be great offensively, Like if they're top forty offensively, I 1908 01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:00,240 Speaker 13: think that's a pretty good year. I don't think they're 1909 01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:02,160 Speaker 13: going to be a top twenty offense. 1910 01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:03,760 Speaker 2: I think you're making me mad. 1911 01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,639 Speaker 13: Quite frankly, That's kind of what I was getting at 1912 01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:10,520 Speaker 13: when I said. 1913 01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:11,960 Speaker 4: Is he gonna play this year? I mean, is there 1914 01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:15,280 Speaker 4: a school of thought that suggests it's a possibility that 1915 01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:18,320 Speaker 4: he comes back. It's a possibility he misses the whole year. 1916 01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:21,559 Speaker 4: There's a possibility for a red shirt. But he's already played. 1917 01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,120 Speaker 13: This is his fifth year of college basketball, so he 1918 01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:26,719 Speaker 13: would need a waiver that you can't get until after 1919 01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:29,960 Speaker 13: the season. So does he risk like if he can 1920 01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:33,000 Speaker 13: come back for the final six weeks of the season, 1921 01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:37,439 Speaker 13: does he decide I need to because I don't. I 1922 01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:40,880 Speaker 13: can't bet on the n C doua a granting me 1923 01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:42,480 Speaker 13: a six year of eligibility. 1924 01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:46,360 Speaker 22: You want me to leave, I want you to stop talking. 1925 01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:53,240 Speaker 22: I'm sorry, I get it. Football's eight seven and one. 1926 01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:55,479 Speaker 22: Football is good. Yeah, football is good. Awesome. 1927 01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:59,240 Speaker 4: We're just overflowing with optimism on the annual Ched and 1928 01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:02,880 Speaker 4: Rick College Basketball Spectacular. Get hell, what five o'clock in 1929 01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:05,559 Speaker 4: the morning Sunday? We are supposed to land at five 1930 01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:08,880 Speaker 4: thirty and Tony and I. Tony and I will be 1931 01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:10,960 Speaker 4: on the air from the Holy Grail at nine am. 1932 01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,759 Speaker 4: This is because the daylight savings kills us this go round, 1933 01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,360 Speaker 4: because we did this. They played Colorado last year. Right, 1934 01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:20,600 Speaker 4: we landed at seven, Tony and I stopped off. I 1935 01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:25,479 Speaker 4: got donuts, Buttermilk Pike Dunkin Donuts went to the Holy Grail. Right, 1936 01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:28,720 Speaker 4: we could plow through just on the air till eleven thirty. 1937 01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:32,600 Speaker 4: This is an earlier arrival because of daylight savings. So 1938 01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:35,120 Speaker 4: now five thirty shows at nine. If I go home 1939 01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:38,680 Speaker 4: and sleep for an hour, that's not good. Uh and 1940 01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:39,479 Speaker 4: so what do I do? 1941 01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:41,080 Speaker 9: Sleep in your car for an hour? 1942 01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:41,360 Speaker 10: Oh? 1943 01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah. So no, I'm not 1944 01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:45,160 Speaker 2: sleeping on my kite. 1945 01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:48,519 Speaker 9: Where it's in the parking garage downtown. It's safe. 1946 01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:51,240 Speaker 4: I just I don't want to sleep in my car. 1947 01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:53,080 Speaker 4: So I think I'm going to go to the Anchor 1948 01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:53,679 Speaker 4: bar and grill. 1949 01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:55,120 Speaker 9: Sit down. 1950 01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:58,800 Speaker 4: We made but we never closed. I don't think Tony 1951 01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:01,479 Speaker 4: has been. So that's my liminary plan on Sunday morning. 1952 01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:06,080 Speaker 9: The only problem is they do close now they do. Yeah, 1953 01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:08,200 Speaker 9: I don't know if they've quit doing that, But you know, 1954 01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:09,280 Speaker 9: COVID ruined everything. 1955 01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:11,040 Speaker 2: They're not twenty four hours anymore. 1956 01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:11,559 Speaker 10: Not. 1957 01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,519 Speaker 9: Last I checked I'd send you to the Pepper Pod, 1958 01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:15,519 Speaker 9: but they're closed for good. 1959 01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:16,280 Speaker 2: Pepper Pod. 1960 01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:17,599 Speaker 9: Well, it's god. 1961 01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:20,120 Speaker 2: I still peel the smoke off the walls in that place. 1962 01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:25,679 Speaker 2: I guess nothing. All right, Full Seasoning, We're we're gonna 1963 01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:26,439 Speaker 2: brighten things. 1964 01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:28,080 Speaker 4: Up and we're gonna spend I'm gonna spend a few 1965 01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:30,479 Speaker 4: minutes talking with Richard Skinner about Joe Flacco not being 1966 01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:31,920 Speaker 4: able to play on Sunday. It's gonna be going, and 1967 01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:33,720 Speaker 4: then we'll come back to how bad the Bearcats and 1968 01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:35,800 Speaker 4: Musketeers are going to be. We have to talk about 1969 01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:39,160 Speaker 4: the Norse. Some other college basketball topics as well. Coming 1970 01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:42,120 Speaker 4: up on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 1971 01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:48,080 Speaker 7: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic from. 1972 01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:51,200 Speaker 8: The UC Health Traffic Center with a stroke every second 1973 01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,880 Speaker 8: count send so does your team home to rapid life 1974 01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:57,000 Speaker 8: saving treatment and clinical trials. You see help as the 1975 01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,840 Speaker 8: clear choice for stroke care. Learn more at you see 1976 01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:03,559 Speaker 8: health dot com. Both directions of Running Road now closed 1977 01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:06,880 Speaker 8: off due to an accident between Paddock Road and Asma 1978 01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:10,759 Speaker 8: Avenue also got a crash. He's found on Hopple before 1979 01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:14,479 Speaker 8: seventy five right lane blocked off and westbound Harrison at 1980 01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:17,400 Speaker 8: Tremont Street on that ezallach with traffic. 1981 01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:21,200 Speaker 7: This is football Iam the Nattie, brought to you in 1982 01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:26,520 Speaker 7: part by Hostman Law and vice Skyline Chilly on ESPN 1983 01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:30,559 Speaker 7: fifteen point thirty to the official home of the Cincinnati. 1984 01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:34,120 Speaker 4: Bengals, interrupting the Chad and Rick College Basketball Spectacular to 1985 01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:37,519 Speaker 4: talk with their friend and mine, Richard Skinner from Local twelve, 1986 01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:39,320 Speaker 4: because there's lots going on with the Bengals. 1987 01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:42,320 Speaker 2: Hi, Richard, Well, here's what I'm. 1988 01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:42,640 Speaker 14: Gonna tell you. 1989 01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:44,080 Speaker 17: I got two things for you can get back to 1990 01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:47,000 Speaker 17: college basketball at the Bengals suck and Joe Blaco is ert. 1991 01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:48,240 Speaker 2: All right? 1992 01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:50,479 Speaker 4: That's Richard Skinner from Local twelve. You could read his 1993 01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:55,080 Speaker 4: columns at Local twelve dot com. Hi, boys, it's it's 1994 01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:56,760 Speaker 4: you know, I should have just had you join these 1995 01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:58,760 Speaker 4: guys in studio and I could have I could have 1996 01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:00,400 Speaker 4: sat back and done nothing. 1997 01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:02,760 Speaker 2: Is Flaco? He's not gonna play on Sunday? Is that 1998 01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:03,080 Speaker 2: a thing? 1999 01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:06,960 Speaker 17: I can't imagine he does. I mean, that's a pretty 2000 01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:10,000 Speaker 17: that's a pretty significant injury. You know, after the game 2001 01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:12,599 Speaker 17: he said it didn't hurt much. Well, he went back 2002 01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:14,080 Speaker 17: to the locker room, probably got it shot up, so 2003 01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:16,080 Speaker 17: you're come in for that final series. I'm guessing it 2004 01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:18,880 Speaker 17: didn't hurt much, and then Monday comes along and ooh boy, 2005 01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:22,200 Speaker 17: it hurts a lot. Yeah, he doesn't go tomorrow. I 2006 01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:25,599 Speaker 17: can't imagine he plays. I know Zach left open today 2007 01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:27,479 Speaker 17: the possibility that, you know, he doesn't need any reps 2008 01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:29,360 Speaker 17: that he could. He's healthy enough, he can show up 2009 01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:32,920 Speaker 17: on Sunday and play. And that's probably true if he's healthy. 2010 01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:34,560 Speaker 17: I just don't think that's gonna be a possible. I 2011 01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:35,559 Speaker 17: think it's a real long shot. 2012 01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:38,080 Speaker 4: So, Okay, they have a bye after this game. Is 2013 01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:40,920 Speaker 4: this something that could keep him out possibly multiple weeks? 2014 01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:43,439 Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean this is an injury that can be 2015 01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:45,920 Speaker 17: really significant and it can also be short term. It's 2016 01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:49,040 Speaker 17: it's a weird thing, you know. I think the bye 2017 01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:53,599 Speaker 17: week probably helps soften that blow. If you can hit 2018 01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:56,360 Speaker 17: this week, it's goofy this sound you can win that 2019 01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:59,080 Speaker 17: this week. Yeah, the bye you could actually go to 2020 01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:01,960 Speaker 17: Pittsburgh if they're four and you're four and five and 2021 01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:04,240 Speaker 17: a chance to sweep them to take over first place 2022 01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:06,880 Speaker 17: in this division. That's probably not logical because there's no 2023 01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:09,760 Speaker 17: guarantee they win this weekend, especially when you can't beat 2024 01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:12,920 Speaker 17: the awful Jets, but it's on the table. It's it's 2025 01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:15,320 Speaker 17: such a goofy season, especially in this division, and I 2026 01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:17,920 Speaker 17: think he gets goofier because Baltimore is getting healthier. 2027 01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think Baltimore is gonna win it. 2028 01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:22,479 Speaker 4: And I'm not even sure it's necessarily gonna be close, 2029 01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:25,840 Speaker 4: maybe not go from one to five to to run 2030 01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,400 Speaker 4: it away with the thing. They put two guys on 2031 01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:32,720 Speaker 4: ir yesterday and let go of Mike Panell. Are Are 2032 01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:34,799 Speaker 4: they just gonna play with fifty guys moving forward. 2033 01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:38,240 Speaker 17: No, They're gonna probably bring some guys up in the practice. 2034 01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:39,960 Speaker 17: I think you're in that mode of let's see what 2035 01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:43,880 Speaker 17: we've got here. You know, Mike Panell was actually a 2036 01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:46,960 Speaker 17: rotational tackle. You know, maybe that means we see mor 2037 01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:47,960 Speaker 17: McKinley Jackson. 2038 01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:48,280 Speaker 10: Oh. 2039 01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:51,439 Speaker 17: I think he's been active for one game this season. 2040 01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:53,280 Speaker 17: It's pretty good spot for a third round pick from 2041 01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:54,639 Speaker 17: last year and only playing one game. 2042 01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:54,880 Speaker 14: Oh. 2043 01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:57,360 Speaker 17: Meanwhile, the other third round pick, the wide receivers Remain Burton, 2044 01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:00,720 Speaker 17: hasn't been active for a single game. Okay, so things 2045 01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:03,320 Speaker 17: are going well in that department. But yeah, I'm guessing 2046 01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:05,599 Speaker 17: it means probably some more playing time for Mchainley because 2047 01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:07,960 Speaker 17: at some point he drafted him in the third round. 2048 01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:08,800 Speaker 14: Gotta see what you got. 2049 01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:11,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, Zach Taylor says he needs leaders on defense. 2050 01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:12,760 Speaker 2: Who are they supposed to be? 2051 01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:16,240 Speaker 17: I think it's Barrett Carter, believe or not. I really 2052 01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:18,720 Speaker 17: think they think he can step into a leadership role. 2053 01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:22,519 Speaker 17: Except the problem is he diagnosed a run play really 2054 01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:24,960 Speaker 17: really well and got right into the bat gap, and 2055 01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:27,040 Speaker 17: here comes a running back at him full speed, and 2056 01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:28,760 Speaker 17: it was going to be a one yard game, maybe 2057 01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:30,719 Speaker 17: a no yard game, maybe even a one yard loss 2058 01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:34,240 Speaker 17: depending on where he dackledomat, except for one small problem. 2059 01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:36,720 Speaker 17: He didn't tackle the guy and he's spit it out 2060 01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:39,120 Speaker 17: for a fifty yard run. But answer your question, I 2061 01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:42,599 Speaker 17: do believe they think Barrett Carter has leadership capabilities, and 2062 01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:45,720 Speaker 17: as long as he starts performing at a level where 2063 01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:47,920 Speaker 17: he's making tackles on a consistent basis, I think he 2064 01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:49,120 Speaker 17: can become that leader. I do. 2065 01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:54,080 Speaker 4: The fan base is as upset with Duke Tobin as 2066 01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:57,519 Speaker 4: I think it has ever been, and understandably so, because 2067 01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:00,280 Speaker 4: he keeps drafting players who can help. Do you think 2068 01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:02,960 Speaker 4: he is standing on ice that is at all starting 2069 01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:03,439 Speaker 4: to crack? 2070 01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:06,240 Speaker 17: Mo, do you know this organization? 2071 01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:09,640 Speaker 2: Now, come on, I had to ask it right sometimes, 2072 01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:10,400 Speaker 2: and you know this. 2073 01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,040 Speaker 4: You have to ask a question you know the answer to, 2074 01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:15,320 Speaker 4: but you have to throw it out there because you're 2075 01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:15,800 Speaker 4: supposed to. 2076 01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:18,720 Speaker 17: That's a fair point. So no, I think he should be. 2077 01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:21,080 Speaker 17: So I did the exercise. I think maybe a couple 2078 01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:22,479 Speaker 17: others on the beat have done this. I just did 2079 01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:25,000 Speaker 17: it today. It hasn't published yet and it's going up tomorrow. 2080 01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:27,719 Speaker 17: Where I redrafted the first three rounds for this team 2081 01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:29,439 Speaker 17: this year, and it really wasn't even hard to do, 2082 01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:32,000 Speaker 17: Like these were guys talked about in those rounds and 2083 01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:34,439 Speaker 17: good reasons for the Bengals taking him on when it happened. 2084 01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:37,960 Speaker 17: So instead of Shamar Stewart, who's had one assisted tackle 2085 01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,240 Speaker 17: in sixty two defensive snaps over the last two games, 2086 01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:43,120 Speaker 17: that's some good production. Huh, one assisted tackle where you 2087 01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:45,599 Speaker 17: fall into a pile. Good for you, man, that's great work. 2088 01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:48,840 Speaker 17: Instead of him in the first round, how about Gid Campbell, 2089 01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:51,200 Speaker 17: who's been one of the best linebackers in the entire 2090 01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:53,640 Speaker 17: NFL as a rookie sit in the second round you 2091 01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:56,320 Speaker 17: needed a guard, because he drafted a guard. Tate Ratlie 2092 01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:58,040 Speaker 17: was available. How about you go that route set of 2093 01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:00,439 Speaker 17: Demetrius Knight, because you've already gone the line back out. 2094 01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:02,200 Speaker 17: And then how about in the third round, a guy 2095 01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:04,320 Speaker 17: who played for al Golden Notre Dame is having a 2096 01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:07,000 Speaker 17: fine rookie season with the Atlanta Falcons. How about Vaaner 2097 01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:09,280 Speaker 17: watching the third round? How hard is that? It wasn't 2098 01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:11,680 Speaker 17: even hard to do that. It was common sensical. It 2099 01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:13,320 Speaker 17: said you had to be the smartest ones in the 2100 01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:15,680 Speaker 17: room and go Yeah, I know, Shamar Show doesn't do 2101 01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:18,120 Speaker 17: anything other than look good, but let's go ahead and 2102 01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:20,759 Speaker 17: take him anyway, because he's got great traits. Okay, great 2103 01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:24,439 Speaker 17: one assisted tackle in the last sixty two defensive snaps. 2104 01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:26,479 Speaker 17: I could fall on a pile and get that stat 2105 01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:26,840 Speaker 17: I could. 2106 01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:31,160 Speaker 2: I'd like to see that, actually, but yeah it would hurt. 2107 01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:34,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Well, thanks for bringing a good cheer 2108 01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:35,919 Speaker 4: to a rough situation. 2109 01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:38,040 Speaker 2: We'll talk next week. Thank you as always. 2110 01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:40,880 Speaker 14: You bet go big Blue. 2111 01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:42,040 Speaker 2: That's our guy. 2112 01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:45,599 Speaker 4: Richard Skinner from Local twelve and Local twelve dot com 2113 01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:48,759 Speaker 4: also the hosts of the Skinny Podcast with Rick Boring, 2114 01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:50,280 Speaker 4: which I may submit a question. 2115 01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:51,360 Speaker 9: Is it Rick the host? 2116 01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:52,759 Speaker 2: Rick is the host? 2117 01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:56,559 Speaker 4: It's confusing it's named after Skinny, but Rick sort of 2118 01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:58,400 Speaker 4: does the ins and outs and sets up all the 2119 01:42:58,400 --> 01:42:59,880 Speaker 4: breaks and topics. 2120 01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:01,680 Speaker 21: Brings us in start and ends it too. Yeah, it's 2121 01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:02,920 Speaker 21: a very confusing situation. 2122 01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:04,639 Speaker 2: Might I might submit a question this week? 2123 01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:07,200 Speaker 9: It's been a while. Yeah, yeah, all right, I got 2124 01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:07,680 Speaker 9: something for you. 2125 01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:11,560 Speaker 13: Yeah, y'all, reporters need to start looking at who represents 2126 01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:15,040 Speaker 13: these people. Woodward's agent, Kelly's agent, the Texas A and 2127 01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:18,280 Speaker 13: m coaches agent. They are the same agent. This is ridiculous. 2128 01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:21,200 Speaker 13: Lawyers would be disbarred the way these agents act. It's 2129 01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:24,600 Speaker 13: time for the NCAA to put guardrails. We don't need guardrails. 2130 01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:27,120 Speaker 13: A big billionaires want to spend money, no problem. But 2131 01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:29,320 Speaker 13: if I got to go find fifty three million dollars 2132 01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:31,479 Speaker 13: from the state, it's not going to be pleasant. 2133 01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:33,120 Speaker 2: That's the governor of Louisiana. 2134 01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:34,560 Speaker 9: Governor of Louisiana. 2135 01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:37,120 Speaker 2: God would admit. He's not wrong. 2136 01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:40,120 Speaker 9: He's not kind of said what needed to be said. 2137 01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:41,559 Speaker 2: That's all right. 2138 01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:46,040 Speaker 4: More college basketball with Chad and Rick next on ESPN 2139 01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:46,799 Speaker 4: fifteen thirty. 2140 01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:50,600 Speaker 7: You've been listening to football in the NATI Brought to 2141 01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:55,400 Speaker 7: you by Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by Tope Sheldon on 2142 01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:59,920 Speaker 7: ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bend. 2143 01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:05,760 Speaker 7: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic. 2144 01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:08,920 Speaker 8: From the UC Health Traffic Center with a stroke every 2145 01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:12,080 Speaker 8: second countsend so does your team home to rapid life 2146 01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:15,120 Speaker 8: saving treatment and clinical trials. 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So instead of losing forty one 2159 01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:00,640 Speaker 4: to thirty eight, old, lose forty. 2160 01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:00,760 Speaker 2: One to ten. 2161 01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:03,719 Speaker 4: I Guess one o'clock Sunday Live on ESPN fifteen thirty. 2162 01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,439 Speaker 4: Pregame coverage from the Holy Grail starts at nine am 2163 01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:08,920 Speaker 4: more tonight on Bengals Game Plan from six to eight 2164 01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:13,200 Speaker 4: with Dan Horden Dave Lapham on ESPN fifteen thirty. Congratulations 2165 01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:17,479 Speaker 4: to Nick Hagland, named the MLS Comeback Player of the Year. 2166 01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:20,479 Speaker 4: He has overcome injury after injury after injury this year 2167 01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:24,080 Speaker 4: busted ribs and a collapse long came back and helped 2168 01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:26,760 Speaker 4: FC Cincinnati not only to the playoffs, but a game 2169 01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:29,720 Speaker 4: one win over Columbus. Game two on Sunday on Fox 2170 01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:32,200 Speaker 4: Sports thirteen sixty. Game five of the World Series is tonight. 2171 01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:36,240 Speaker 4: Blue Jayson Dodgers in Los Angeles series tied at two apiece. 2172 01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:40,280 Speaker 4: Blue Jackets skate against the Toronto Maple Leafs tonight. The 2173 01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:42,760 Speaker 4: Jackets are five and four after their OT win in 2174 01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:47,479 Speaker 4: Buffalo last night. Our Guy Chad Brendo, Bearcat Journal dot Com. 2175 01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:50,600 Speaker 4: Our guy Rick Boring Musketeer Report dot Com on the 2176 01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:53,439 Speaker 4: college football season, also the NKU radio broadcast. 2177 01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:54,679 Speaker 2: Are the Norths going to be any good? 2178 01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:58,519 Speaker 21: It's another team where it's like when you're replacing nine 2179 01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:00,840 Speaker 21: guys on your roster and turned over a lot, and 2180 01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:02,479 Speaker 21: the rest of the league is doing the same thing. 2181 01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:06,040 Speaker 21: It's tough to say, but I think they've got they've 2182 01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:07,719 Speaker 21: got a chance to be pretty good in the Horizon 2183 01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:08,800 Speaker 21: League towards the top. 2184 01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:10,599 Speaker 2: A lot of new guys, a lot of guys from 2185 01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:11,240 Speaker 2: other countries. 2186 01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:14,120 Speaker 21: Yeah, it's a it's a really interesting group of guys, 2187 01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:16,280 Speaker 21: but fun group to be around. Really mature because some 2188 01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:18,040 Speaker 21: of those guys, for like Ethan Elliot, who they brought 2189 01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:20,360 Speaker 21: over from Australia, is gonna play point guard. Just a 2190 01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:23,920 Speaker 21: super mature kid is into his twenties already, and it's 2191 01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:25,839 Speaker 21: a little bit different when guys are trying to advance 2192 01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:27,519 Speaker 21: their professional careers already. 2193 01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:30,439 Speaker 9: You know, I wasn't super mature in my twenties. 2194 01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:34,240 Speaker 2: And that's super mature in my forties. But the North 2195 01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:35,280 Speaker 2: there's good. 2196 01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:38,960 Speaker 13: Rick seems pretty balanced now. He's done a good job 2197 01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:40,280 Speaker 13: coming out of it. I don't think you and I 2198 01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:41,720 Speaker 13: ever grew up. 2199 01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:44,400 Speaker 4: I think, well, he did spend the summer eating taco 2200 01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:48,960 Speaker 4: bell for thirty one consecutive days. Maturity, that's a word 2201 01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:50,759 Speaker 4: you could use, intestinal maturity. 2202 01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:54,200 Speaker 2: What did that do to your body? 2203 01:46:54,360 --> 01:46:54,679 Speaker 9: Nothing? 2204 01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:57,920 Speaker 21: I was completely fine. It's what is talk about. It's meat, 2205 01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:00,599 Speaker 21: cheese and a tortilla. Why do people act like it's. 2206 01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:03,200 Speaker 2: Twenty one straight days if anything is not good? 2207 01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:06,880 Speaker 9: If I mean, what do you normally eat at home? 2208 01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:10,160 Speaker 9: Meat cheese, some bread? 2209 01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:11,320 Speaker 2: I guess so yeah. 2210 01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:14,160 Speaker 21: I mean, look, people, if taco bell is ruining your stomach, 2211 01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:15,800 Speaker 21: you've got bigger problems than time. 2212 01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:16,439 Speaker 2: Did you go? 2213 01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:19,320 Speaker 4: How many times? Like how many different taco bells did 2214 01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:21,200 Speaker 4: you Visit? Was that the same one? 2215 01:47:21,320 --> 01:47:23,600 Speaker 2: It was mostly the Newport one, so they got to 2216 01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:23,800 Speaker 2: know you. 2217 01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:27,360 Speaker 9: I was getting a little worried about that. 2218 01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:29,400 Speaker 21: But I think they turn over employees so much as 2219 01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:30,200 Speaker 21: soccer bells that it's not. 2220 01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:32,120 Speaker 2: Why why did you stop at thirty one? Then why 2221 01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:32,840 Speaker 2: not extend it? 2222 01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:35,439 Speaker 21: I said, I could do that for an entire year. 2223 01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:38,679 Speaker 21: The only problem is basketball season. It becomes inconvenient because 2224 01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:40,439 Speaker 21: you're sometimes in a hotel that doesn't have a Taco 2225 01:47:40,439 --> 01:47:42,719 Speaker 21: bell anywhere nearby, and you don't have a car. And okay, 2226 01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:45,040 Speaker 21: I'm not spending forty dollars on a door dash for 2227 01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:48,479 Speaker 21: taco bell. That's the issue. Okay, fair, But I could 2228 01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:50,160 Speaker 21: do that for an entire year, seriously. 2229 01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:54,880 Speaker 2: Okay, fair, enough. Yeah, very good. So we don't think 2230 01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:56,479 Speaker 2: the Musketeers are going to be very good. 2231 01:47:56,920 --> 01:47:58,280 Speaker 9: I think it's going to be a roughie. 2232 01:47:58,360 --> 01:47:59,960 Speaker 4: And we don't think the Bearcats are going to be 2233 01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:02,920 Speaker 4: as good as everybody expects, because I think there's an 2234 01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:05,320 Speaker 4: expectation like, these guys are going to be awesome. 2235 01:48:05,439 --> 01:48:08,599 Speaker 13: Here's the problem. They can be good and they're still 2236 01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:13,080 Speaker 13: going to be walking this tightrope. Yeah, there's nothing in 2237 01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:16,200 Speaker 13: my brain that says in that eight game window of 2238 01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:18,360 Speaker 13: that they're going to go four and four. Yeah, if 2239 01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:19,880 Speaker 13: you told me they were going to go four and four, 2240 01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:21,840 Speaker 13: I'd say they're going to have a really good year. 2241 01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:25,960 Speaker 9: I'm coming up two and six, three and five. 2242 01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:29,000 Speaker 13: Like best case scenario, that means you got to go 2243 01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:32,320 Speaker 13: six and ten, seven and ten and all the other 2244 01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:34,200 Speaker 13: big twelve games. 2245 01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:37,840 Speaker 4: That's a tall task, even if you're having a good year. 2246 01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:41,760 Speaker 4: So we've talked about this. It feels like last year, 2247 01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:45,320 Speaker 4: accumulate talent, figure it out. This year, built a roster, right, 2248 01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:47,320 Speaker 4: built a roster. Find guys who fits. 2249 01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:51,360 Speaker 13: Got guards, you've got wings, you've got different kinds of forwards, 2250 01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:52,320 Speaker 13: you've got centers. 2251 01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:54,280 Speaker 2: So, yeah, who is their best player going to be? 2252 01:48:55,240 --> 01:49:00,680 Speaker 13: I think if they're going to be tournament good, I 2253 01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:03,840 Speaker 13: think their best player needs to be bobbon Miller because 2254 01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:08,360 Speaker 13: he's got he can do the most things. Can play defense, 2255 01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:13,800 Speaker 13: can rebound, can shoot, can pass, can handle the ball 2256 01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:17,599 Speaker 13: pretty well like I think he is. They will go 2257 01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:21,839 Speaker 13: as far as his upside allows. Need to make bucket, 2258 01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:24,760 Speaker 13: He'll get it for you. I don't know that I'm 2259 01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:29,800 Speaker 13: that's more of a guard thing, yeah, typically, but need 2260 01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:32,120 Speaker 13: to get a big rebound, need to maybe stop a run, 2261 01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:35,000 Speaker 13: you can go to him. I don't know in the 2262 01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:37,679 Speaker 13: final two minutes if I'm isolating going one to four 2263 01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:39,760 Speaker 13: flat and throwing a ball to Bob on Miller per se. 2264 01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:43,120 Speaker 13: But I think just because of the number of things 2265 01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:48,000 Speaker 13: he has the potential to do well, he's the key. Now, 2266 01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:50,960 Speaker 13: there was an NBA scout friend of mine that was 2267 01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:54,920 Speaker 13: a practice and he said, look, Bob, I was gonna 2268 01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:58,040 Speaker 13: have thirteen and six at halftime, and everybody's gonna be 2269 01:49:58,040 --> 01:49:59,640 Speaker 13: flipping out about how awesome he is. 2270 01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:08,960 Speaker 9: He's going to end with fifteen and seven. And this 2271 01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:09,720 Speaker 9: is a. 2272 01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:13,840 Speaker 13: Scout from a prominent NBA franchise that is near and 2273 01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:14,879 Speaker 13: dear to Mo's heart. 2274 01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:19,760 Speaker 4: Is the next guy potentially, so well, we're not going 2275 01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:21,400 Speaker 4: to be in the lottery, but we'll take him with. 2276 01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:24,920 Speaker 13: Loves Mustapha Chom though Okay loves him. I'm in his 2277 01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:28,479 Speaker 13: in his I think like late first early second round. 2278 01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:30,160 Speaker 4: So some of the UCF guys were here for the 2279 01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:34,599 Speaker 4: football game and like still not they pish, They're. 2280 01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:36,160 Speaker 9: Pissed, they're pissed. 2281 01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:39,519 Speaker 2: He he's good, He's very good. Who's Xavier's best player 2282 01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:40,000 Speaker 2: going to be? 2283 01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:43,200 Speaker 9: That's another really good question. I think a lot of 2284 01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:44,639 Speaker 9: questions with no answers today. 2285 01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:46,800 Speaker 21: That's the problem when you think about this team and 2286 01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:49,000 Speaker 21: why I have them losing a lot more games than 2287 01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:51,360 Speaker 21: they're winning, because I there's a ton of questions and 2288 01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:53,320 Speaker 21: I don't see clear answers to any of them. I think, 2289 01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:56,080 Speaker 21: you know, Malik mesina More looks to be the best 2290 01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:59,560 Speaker 21: offensive player and score to me, but I think overall, 2291 01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:03,520 Speaker 21: Trey Carroll early on, at least through the first exhibition 2292 01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:05,080 Speaker 21: and scrimmage and some of what we saw in the 2293 01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:07,680 Speaker 21: preseason looks to be the best all around player. And 2294 01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:10,800 Speaker 21: I think what he does well, which is play really hard, 2295 01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:14,360 Speaker 21: pursue the ball, get fouled, make some shots, play efficiently 2296 01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:17,680 Speaker 21: on offense. You can rely on that with more consistency, 2297 01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:19,320 Speaker 21: then maybe you can rely on some of the other 2298 01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:20,000 Speaker 21: guys games. 2299 01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:22,840 Speaker 9: And the best part is him and Baba Miller shared 2300 01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:25,160 Speaker 9: a position last year, will. 2301 01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:27,599 Speaker 21: That that'd be the storyline we need for the shootout 2302 01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:28,720 Speaker 21: to keep its luster in this year. 2303 01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:31,599 Speaker 13: Yeah, ye, now the shootouts lost this year. This year, 2304 01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:33,400 Speaker 13: Doc might be right, This might be the year that 2305 01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:35,479 Speaker 13: shoot out lose its luster. I can't wait to read 2306 01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:37,160 Speaker 13: the column shout out to the end Quire, but what if 2307 01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:39,400 Speaker 13: he goes the other way, Well, it's bad. 2308 01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:44,120 Speaker 21: It's this is the year, shoutouts Jasan Williams right that 2309 01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:46,519 Speaker 21: column right now. The shootout is back in twenty twenty 2310 01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:47,479 Speaker 21: five six. 2311 01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:50,240 Speaker 4: I think there is a sense though that if you 2312 01:51:50,360 --> 01:51:53,120 Speaker 4: see can't win there this year, they're never going to. 2313 01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:53,840 Speaker 2: They never will. 2314 01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:56,200 Speaker 21: Does that make it back if you see finally breaks 2315 01:51:56,240 --> 01:52:00,120 Speaker 21: that Kurson wins there, or it is the luster. 2316 01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:02,639 Speaker 9: Dead because that was the expected that UC supposed to win. 2317 01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:04,080 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. 2318 01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:07,320 Speaker 4: I have weeks to ponder that, but I do think 2319 01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:10,160 Speaker 4: I do think if you if you ask Bearcad fans, 2320 01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:11,840 Speaker 4: I mean they said we said the same thing two 2321 01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:13,800 Speaker 4: years ago, right like and that was not a very 2322 01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:16,000 Speaker 4: good Xavier team and a very good UC team, But 2323 01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:17,439 Speaker 4: I think there was a sense of like, all right, 2324 01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:19,280 Speaker 4: if if they're ever gonna win, itsin TOAs, it's going 2325 01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:21,280 Speaker 4: to be that game two years ago they did not. 2326 01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:25,760 Speaker 4: I've I've listened to people who love Xavier basketball who 2327 01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:28,040 Speaker 4: have said, like, this is gonna be the year where 2328 01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:30,320 Speaker 4: they lose for the first time in a quarter century 2329 01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:34,559 Speaker 4: to you see at home, and then every Bearcat fan goes, yeah, cool, 2330 01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:36,880 Speaker 4: one of those dudes is going to go five for seven. 2331 01:52:36,640 --> 01:52:42,680 Speaker 2: From three another tho mm two thousand and six, the 2332 01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:43,639 Speaker 2: Andy Kennedy year. 2333 01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:48,040 Speaker 13: Now well to December December of the two thousand and 2334 01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:50,840 Speaker 13: six seventh season, they're mixed ragtag. 2335 01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:55,639 Speaker 4: Yes, Sean Miller's first one where that UC team, which 2336 01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:58,280 Speaker 4: was dreadful, won two games in the Big East, beat Xavior. 2337 01:52:58,280 --> 01:52:59,680 Speaker 2: But that game was that U se. 2338 01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:05,480 Speaker 9: Right, but this game is that Xavier. Man, that's the parallel. 2339 01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:10,840 Speaker 4: Yes, you're right, No, you're right, Rick, Thank you for 2340 01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:14,000 Speaker 4: that was not really a question there, but thank you 2341 01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:16,120 Speaker 4: for that reference. Thank you for putting it together. For 2342 01:53:16,120 --> 01:53:20,519 Speaker 4: the I I've lost for a second, but I feel 2343 01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:24,000 Speaker 4: like this is most UC fans look at this in 2344 01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:26,160 Speaker 4: Xavier fans as well as if it's if it's ever 2345 01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:29,000 Speaker 4: going to end the streak of Xavier beating you see 2346 01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:31,160 Speaker 4: at centas it's it's going to be this year. 2347 01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:34,120 Speaker 21: Yeah, I said, as I do feel like if they 2348 01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:35,559 Speaker 21: don't win this one, I think I might have said 2349 01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:37,360 Speaker 21: the same thing two years ago. But if they don't 2350 01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:39,320 Speaker 21: win this one, they're never going to win at the 2351 01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:40,440 Speaker 21: Senta Center feels. 2352 01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:42,080 Speaker 4: Like is there you know, you talk about like a 2353 01:53:42,120 --> 01:53:44,680 Speaker 4: lot of the things that went down this this offseason 2354 01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:46,360 Speaker 4: that worked against Xavier. 2355 01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:46,920 Speaker 2: Do you. 2356 01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:51,160 Speaker 4: I think most of you the roster is underwhelming. Do 2357 01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:52,840 Speaker 4: you put any of that on Richard? 2358 01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:56,040 Speaker 21: I mean, ultimately, I guess everyone's going to be like 2359 01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:59,320 Speaker 21: the head coaches responsible for the roster. But I more 2360 01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:01,720 Speaker 21: than anything, situation that Xavier was in this year is 2361 01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:04,519 Speaker 21: one you're replacing an entirely new roster because you lost 2362 01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:06,479 Speaker 21: your previous head coach, which is something that almost every 2363 01:54:06,479 --> 01:54:07,920 Speaker 21: school seems to go through. Now, when you lose your 2364 01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:09,759 Speaker 21: head coach, you got to replace it entirely new roster. 2365 01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:12,559 Speaker 21: To do that in the same year where you had 2366 01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:15,880 Speaker 21: and granted, nil has been changing almost every year every 2367 01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:17,400 Speaker 21: other year as we go anyway. So I'm not sure 2368 01:54:17,439 --> 01:54:20,160 Speaker 21: there is like a standard for ANIL. But the way 2369 01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:23,240 Speaker 21: it was operating the last two three years, all of 2370 01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:25,280 Speaker 21: a sudden flipped on its head this one off season 2371 01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:26,840 Speaker 21: while you were trying to do that put them in 2372 01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:28,120 Speaker 21: a doubly bad position. 2373 01:54:28,439 --> 01:54:30,320 Speaker 9: So that's where I put most of the blame. 2374 01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:32,879 Speaker 21: I don't think it's anyone's fault per se, other than maybe, 2375 01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:34,839 Speaker 21: you know, if you want to put it on Xavier's 2376 01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:38,800 Speaker 21: donors for not pouring out all of their financial earnings 2377 01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:41,200 Speaker 21: over the course of their lifetimes, then maybe it's on them. 2378 01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:41,600 Speaker 9: I don't know. 2379 01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:44,680 Speaker 13: So that they go ahead, Did they bankroll it because 2380 01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:46,800 Speaker 13: you can technically. 2381 01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:48,640 Speaker 9: I don't even know what you're asking right now. The 2382 01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:51,440 Speaker 9: revenue share, the revenue share, I don't know what that means. 2383 01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:54,120 Speaker 9: What I mean. So, so the way it's going to 2384 01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:55,600 Speaker 9: be good a financial lesson the. 2385 01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:58,400 Speaker 13: Way that the calendar, I could certainly use that July 2386 01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:04,320 Speaker 13: first is the fiscal year start, so you can spend 2387 01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:08,640 Speaker 13: less on this roster all the way around to April, 2388 01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:13,120 Speaker 13: and then April to July have more for the more 2389 01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:16,440 Speaker 13: for the following year because there's a three month window 2390 01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:19,000 Speaker 13: from the end of the season to the start of 2391 01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:22,640 Speaker 13: the fiscal year that if you didn't spend everything that 2392 01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:28,760 Speaker 13: you can spend on revenue share, you could hypothetically load 2393 01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:29,840 Speaker 13: up for the next year you. 2394 01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:30,440 Speaker 2: Roll it over. 2395 01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:34,200 Speaker 21: I did not know the scientific term was bankroll for that, 2396 01:55:34,240 --> 01:55:34,960 Speaker 21: so that is on me. 2397 01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:36,800 Speaker 9: I will I think I just heard that up. 2398 01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. 2399 01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:39,840 Speaker 21: Also, I have not talked to Zavier's financial people about 2400 01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:41,720 Speaker 21: how they handle that exactly, so I'm not sure. But 2401 01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:43,560 Speaker 21: I since there was probably a little bit of like 2402 01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:45,840 Speaker 21: a hey, we're in a really bad spot. We're not 2403 01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:47,680 Speaker 21: going to spend an extra two hundred grand to get 2404 01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:51,000 Speaker 21: a slightly more average player. We're going to take what 2405 01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:53,120 Speaker 21: we can get here and look forward to the future. 2406 01:55:53,120 --> 01:55:54,680 Speaker 21: But they also did it with you know, they have 2407 01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:57,800 Speaker 21: five sophomores those Billy wise, and you can't plan for 2408 01:55:57,840 --> 01:56:00,120 Speaker 21: the future in this current era of basketball, but you 2409 01:56:00,240 --> 01:56:02,840 Speaker 21: can try to promote the future and be like, hey, 2410 01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:04,480 Speaker 21: hopefully a couple of these guys are good and we 2411 01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:05,200 Speaker 21: can keep them around. 2412 01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:10,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I it just it feels weird. It feels weird. Look, 2413 01:56:10,360 --> 01:56:13,240 Speaker 4: it's I think it's never been more difficult for a 2414 01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:15,839 Speaker 4: first year head coach in any program. Obviously, Rich Potino 2415 01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:19,280 Speaker 4: has been a head coach. It just it feels weird 2416 01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:21,920 Speaker 4: to talk about Xavier basketball in terms where we're wondering 2417 01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:25,080 Speaker 4: if they're going to lose twenty games before the season begins. 2418 01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:27,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that's this is a fair to say. 2419 01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2420 01:56:28,040 --> 01:56:30,200 Speaker 21: The one thing that I do think, you know, anytime 2421 01:56:30,200 --> 01:56:32,560 Speaker 21: you get a new coaching staff, that's fun to see 2422 01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:34,360 Speaker 21: what's the style going to look like? What difference? So 2423 01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:36,000 Speaker 21: are you going to see what type of players does 2424 01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:37,560 Speaker 21: he like? And I think that is going to look 2425 01:56:37,560 --> 01:56:39,400 Speaker 21: different from what Xavier fans have been used to over 2426 01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:41,840 Speaker 21: the last twenty plus years, because one thing you got 2427 01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:44,000 Speaker 21: to realize is, you know, Sean Miller took over after 2428 01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:48,480 Speaker 21: Thamana and then basically everything since then has been his design. 2429 01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:50,360 Speaker 21: You know, the coaches after him were from his tree 2430 01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:53,280 Speaker 21: and kept what he did in place, including the bastardized 2431 01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:56,280 Speaker 21: pack line tack line defense has been given up one 2432 01:56:56,360 --> 01:56:58,280 Speaker 21: hundred and fifty threes a game for the last few 2433 01:56:58,360 --> 01:57:01,600 Speaker 21: years in the current system of college basketball. I think 2434 01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:03,200 Speaker 21: that's going to be the most exciting part for fans 2435 01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:05,560 Speaker 21: is let's see what it looks like with a disruptive 2436 01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:09,080 Speaker 21: defense that puts pressure in ball screen situations and forces 2437 01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:12,120 Speaker 21: turnovers and takes the action to the offensive players. That's 2438 01:57:12,160 --> 01:57:13,840 Speaker 21: gonna be the most fun part of the season, I think. 2439 01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:17,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's cool they went outside the family. 2440 01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:21,440 Speaker 4: And nothing against Chris Shawn times too, Travis. It isn't, 2441 01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:23,720 Speaker 4: you know, be good or be interesting. It's interesting that 2442 01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:27,520 Speaker 4: they went outside the family. And uh, it just the 2443 01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:30,440 Speaker 4: way that team is being talked about doesn't mesh with 2444 01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:33,600 Speaker 4: what you have come over the years to expect Xavier 2445 01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:35,680 Speaker 4: basketball to be all about. And then then you hear 2446 01:57:35,720 --> 01:57:37,760 Speaker 4: folks who cry poverty and they don't have any money, 2447 01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:41,120 Speaker 4: and it's just this is a This feels and sounds 2448 01:57:41,120 --> 01:57:42,000 Speaker 4: and looks different. 2449 01:57:42,560 --> 01:57:45,120 Speaker 21: I think it's going to be interesting when the season 2450 01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:47,440 Speaker 21: actually gets going, because Xavier fans are bracing themselves right 2451 01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:49,480 Speaker 21: now for Okay, I think there's gonna be a rebuilding 2452 01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:51,760 Speaker 21: or it's gonna be tough. But what's that actually look 2453 01:57:51,840 --> 01:57:54,280 Speaker 21: like when you're four and for it to start the season. Yeah, 2454 01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:56,560 Speaker 21: can they actually handle that part of it? 2455 01:57:56,720 --> 01:57:56,880 Speaker 2: Right? 2456 01:57:56,960 --> 01:57:59,160 Speaker 4: Everybody says, you know, willing to put up with the 2457 01:57:59,200 --> 01:58:02,000 Speaker 4: growing pains until they're deal actually dealing with them. 2458 01:58:02,120 --> 01:58:03,680 Speaker 9: Yes, And I think that's going to be tough. 2459 01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:06,600 Speaker 4: Did you see his non conference schedule. Check all the 2460 01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:08,800 Speaker 4: boxes you want a non conference schedule to check. 2461 01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:18,240 Speaker 13: Checked enough. It's not great, it's but it's enough. Dayton, Xavier, Georgia, Clemson, Louisville. 2462 01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:21,640 Speaker 13: You've got the one big, big name game in Louisville. 2463 01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:23,840 Speaker 13: I guess a couple teams that are going to be 2464 01:58:23,880 --> 01:58:27,560 Speaker 13: in a similar situation to you on the on the 2465 01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:31,600 Speaker 13: kind of that bubble area. I think with Georgia and Clemson, 2466 01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:36,840 Speaker 13: Xavier's you know gonna probably be rough this year, but 2467 01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:41,200 Speaker 13: in sentas yeah, you never know. Yeah, And then Dayton's 2468 01:58:41,200 --> 01:58:43,200 Speaker 13: probably they're gonna stink, aren't they. I don't think Dayton's 2469 01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:43,880 Speaker 13: gonna be very good. 2470 01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:49,080 Speaker 2: I don't think. I think based on what I hear, 2471 01:58:49,240 --> 01:58:49,800 Speaker 2: I think. 2472 01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:53,240 Speaker 13: Just one guy in this gambling thing, like you're gonna 2473 01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:54,640 Speaker 13: have him on for locks of the weekend? 2474 01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:58,560 Speaker 4: I might, I might, I might do that. What is 2475 01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:02,360 Speaker 4: what is the case? What is best case? I mean 2476 01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:04,760 Speaker 4: best cases? They make the tournament with these you wake 2477 01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:06,680 Speaker 4: up on selection Sunday and you know they're in, and 2478 01:59:06,680 --> 01:59:07,760 Speaker 4: then again at the end of the day it's the 2479 01:59:07,800 --> 01:59:09,120 Speaker 4: brahma and then everybody's gonna. 2480 01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:09,800 Speaker 9: Use best case. 2481 01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:13,320 Speaker 13: They finish fifth Okay, sixth in the Big twelve and 2482 01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:19,000 Speaker 13: comfortably in and like five seed somewhere, five six seeds somewhere. 2483 01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:21,560 Speaker 2: In the worst case involves you putting together a hotboard. 2484 01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:25,920 Speaker 13: Yeah, although I think it would have to be pretty 2485 01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:26,800 Speaker 13: bad for that to happen. 2486 01:59:26,920 --> 01:59:31,400 Speaker 4: But like not bubble and your team number sixty nine 2487 01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:33,560 Speaker 4: or seven. 2488 01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:35,080 Speaker 2: Or seconds thing. 2489 01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:39,360 Speaker 13: It's like if he misses that, he's automatically hired, right, 2490 01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:43,520 Speaker 13: you would have to apply context. Yes, all right, how's 2491 01:59:43,560 --> 01:59:43,920 Speaker 13: it look? 2492 01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:49,160 Speaker 4: Best case for the Musketeers. Best case everything goes swimmingly well, yeah, 2493 01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:50,440 Speaker 4: and there is one thing to keep an eye on. 2494 01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:53,400 Speaker 21: Two with that in terms of Gabriel Pizzato, the Evansville transfer, 2495 01:59:53,440 --> 01:59:56,000 Speaker 21: who by all accounts in the summer looked like maybe 2496 01:59:56,040 --> 01:59:58,160 Speaker 21: the top player on the roster. If he does come 2497 01:59:58,200 --> 02:00:00,640 Speaker 21: back a little earlier than expected and he starts playing 2498 02:00:00,640 --> 02:00:02,760 Speaker 21: well and things start to click, then maybe you know, 2499 02:00:02,840 --> 02:00:05,320 Speaker 21: Xavier's looking more at like six or seventh in the 2500 02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:06,600 Speaker 21: Big East. Like I said, I think the bottom of 2501 02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:09,040 Speaker 21: the Big East is going to be really mediocre to 2502 02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:12,040 Speaker 21: bad this year, So I think it's reasonable to think 2503 02:00:12,040 --> 02:00:14,320 Speaker 21: they could come in closer to like five hundred overall, 2504 02:00:14,360 --> 02:00:17,920 Speaker 21: maybe sixteen and fifteen, fifteen and sixteen something like that, 2505 02:00:18,080 --> 02:00:20,120 Speaker 21: and you go, you win seven or eight games in 2506 02:00:20,160 --> 02:00:20,680 Speaker 21: the Big East. 2507 02:00:20,760 --> 02:00:21,480 Speaker 9: I think that would be. 2508 02:00:21,440 --> 02:00:23,840 Speaker 13: Like five hundred. It's like the gate to cross five 2509 02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:25,040 Speaker 13: hundred and you feel really good. 2510 02:00:25,160 --> 02:00:27,040 Speaker 9: Can I think that's kind of the best case scenario 2511 02:00:27,080 --> 02:00:27,680 Speaker 9: for them this year. 2512 02:00:27,680 --> 02:00:29,360 Speaker 2: And Kay, you can win the Horizon League. 2513 02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:30,520 Speaker 9: I think that's in play. 2514 02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:30,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. 2515 02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:32,880 Speaker 21: I mean if that's without knowing they're not going to be, 2516 02:00:32,920 --> 02:00:34,680 Speaker 21: you know, picked in the top three. But I think 2517 02:00:34,680 --> 02:00:36,480 Speaker 21: they're definitely in contention for sure. 2518 02:00:37,040 --> 02:00:39,760 Speaker 2: And Kentucky fans are really excited. Mark Pope's team is 2519 02:00:39,800 --> 02:00:40,160 Speaker 2: going to be. 2520 02:00:40,120 --> 02:00:42,360 Speaker 13: Really good, right anything, I keep hearing this twenty two 2521 02:00:42,400 --> 02:00:46,360 Speaker 13: number tossed around. Somebody mentioned to me last week they 2522 02:00:46,440 --> 02:00:48,680 Speaker 13: might be closer to a forty million dollars roster than 2523 02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:49,840 Speaker 13: a twenty million dollars roster. 2524 02:00:49,880 --> 02:00:52,440 Speaker 9: I think that people are under I watched the Purdue game. Man, 2525 02:00:52,600 --> 02:00:54,040 Speaker 9: do you understand what that means? 2526 02:00:54,080 --> 02:00:56,080 Speaker 21: For like every player on that roster, like Trent Noah's 2527 02:00:56,080 --> 02:00:57,400 Speaker 21: getting three million dollars. 2528 02:00:57,800 --> 02:00:58,920 Speaker 9: I find that hard to believe. 2529 02:00:59,560 --> 02:01:01,720 Speaker 4: I don't know, but see that's part of it that 2530 02:01:01,880 --> 02:01:03,600 Speaker 4: I think a lot of us can't wrap our brains. 2531 02:01:03,640 --> 02:01:06,520 Speaker 4: Getti asked, I get asked this all the time. What 2532 02:01:06,600 --> 02:01:08,600 Speaker 4: does so and so make? You could tell me it's 2533 02:01:09,320 --> 02:01:11,560 Speaker 4: forty five k a year. You could tell me it's 2534 02:01:11,560 --> 02:01:13,640 Speaker 4: four point five million a year. I do, I have 2535 02:01:13,680 --> 02:01:14,120 Speaker 4: no idea? 2536 02:01:14,440 --> 02:01:16,440 Speaker 2: Should we know more than we make? Should we know? 2537 02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:18,960 Speaker 2: I mean, would I've all I had a lot. I 2538 02:01:19,080 --> 02:01:19,520 Speaker 2: hold yeah. 2539 02:01:19,560 --> 02:01:21,200 Speaker 4: I hold onto the belief that it would be more 2540 02:01:21,280 --> 02:01:23,640 Speaker 4: fun if we had no idea what athletes made, it would. 2541 02:01:23,480 --> 02:01:24,880 Speaker 2: Just we would. It would be more fun. 2542 02:01:25,480 --> 02:01:28,120 Speaker 4: Now how we talk about roster construction would change, and 2543 02:01:28,160 --> 02:01:29,920 Speaker 4: I get all that. Do you want to know what 2544 02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:31,520 Speaker 4: college basketball players a getting paid? 2545 02:01:32,200 --> 02:01:35,800 Speaker 21: I think the ambiguity is going to create more problems because, 2546 02:01:35,840 --> 02:01:38,360 Speaker 21: like we already saw with the kid at BYU, the 2547 02:01:38,360 --> 02:01:39,840 Speaker 21: top freshman in the country this year, A J. 2548 02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:40,400 Speaker 9: Davantsa. 2549 02:01:40,560 --> 02:01:43,240 Speaker 21: Everyone's reporting he got eight million dollars to go there, 2550 02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:45,520 Speaker 21: seven million dollars to go there. Truth is, it sounds 2551 02:01:45,520 --> 02:01:47,080 Speaker 21: like it was more like three and a half four 2552 02:01:47,120 --> 02:01:49,640 Speaker 21: million to go there, right, So, I mean, these numbers 2553 02:01:49,680 --> 02:01:52,160 Speaker 21: are all over the place, and either way, whatever the 2554 02:01:52,280 --> 02:01:54,880 Speaker 21: rumors are, fans are going to run with whatever the 2555 02:01:54,920 --> 02:01:57,640 Speaker 21: highest dollar amount is. Use that for pressure, use that 2556 02:01:57,680 --> 02:01:59,480 Speaker 21: for why the guy is a bust, all those types 2557 02:01:59,520 --> 02:02:01,280 Speaker 21: of things. I think at some point it's almost going 2558 02:02:01,320 --> 02:02:03,720 Speaker 21: to be better to have the real information out there. 2559 02:02:04,600 --> 02:02:06,320 Speaker 4: What are they going to expand the tournament? How much 2560 02:02:06,320 --> 02:02:07,640 Speaker 4: am I gonna hate it? 2561 02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:10,120 Speaker 9: It's gonna be next year. It's gonna stink. 2562 02:02:10,240 --> 02:02:12,440 Speaker 2: It's gonna stink. Nobody wants it. 2563 02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:15,800 Speaker 9: I don't want it, but I'm gonna watch more basketball. 2564 02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:19,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, I'm not gonna watch, but I don't watch it. 2565 02:02:19,880 --> 02:02:22,040 Speaker 4: I have I have ten people for you and Skinny 2566 02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:24,800 Speaker 4: to rank their careers. Tomorrow night, I'll come up with this. 2567 02:02:25,160 --> 02:02:26,440 Speaker 9: How many of them do you think I would know? 2568 02:02:27,280 --> 02:02:27,800 Speaker 14: Uh? 2569 02:02:27,840 --> 02:02:28,240 Speaker 2: You know what? 2570 02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:32,480 Speaker 4: Probably not well, one you'll know, okay because one's a 2571 02:02:32,520 --> 02:02:35,920 Speaker 4: former colleague of viewers, so shout out and Gary Miller. 2572 02:02:36,080 --> 02:02:40,280 Speaker 4: It's not Gary Miller but Artrell Hawkins. Artrell Hawkins is 2573 02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:42,000 Speaker 4: not on here. But there's the list. 2574 02:02:42,040 --> 02:02:44,840 Speaker 9: And thank you. Just get taken to Skinny ten am tomorrow. 2575 02:02:45,480 --> 02:02:48,400 Speaker 2: Guest will be recorded, uh in advance. Thank you for 2576 02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:50,400 Speaker 2: joining me every week, both of you during the season. 2577 02:02:50,520 --> 02:02:53,280 Speaker 4: We'll talk football tomorrow tomorrow you and I chat and 2578 02:02:53,400 --> 02:02:54,800 Speaker 4: Rick Well chat next Wednesday. 2579 02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:57,480 Speaker 2: And thank you so much. As always, thank you all. 2580 02:02:57,440 --> 02:03:02,640 Speaker 4: Right, love, it really can't wait for the season to begin. 2581 02:03:02,840 --> 02:03:03,400 Speaker 2: Do hoops? 2582 02:03:06,560 --> 02:03:12,040 Speaker 4: Well, there's always the Reds. I might the Bengals game 2583 02:03:12,080 --> 02:03:15,000 Speaker 4: Plan show is next. We always have Dan Hord and 2584 02:03:15,080 --> 02:03:17,600 Speaker 4: Dave Lapham to make us feel better. They are next. 2585 02:03:17,640 --> 02:03:19,480 Speaker 4: We are back tomorrow at three oh five. 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