Speaker 1: By Billy Cunningham the Grand America. Welcome with glorious, glorious
Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon in the Tri State. I have a lot
Speaker 1: of basketball tonight. I think Xavier owes the Blue Jays
Speaker 1: of creating a good beat down.
Speaker 2: They come.
Speaker 1: They came here about a month ago and create and
Speaker 1: beat Xavier by forty one points in the Centas Center.
Speaker 1: As Warren Davidson knows, that isn't good. Now you see,
Speaker 1: having beaten the number two team in the country, Iowa
Speaker 1: State is playing tonight late about eight thirty nine o'clock
Speaker 1: out in Arizona, playing the number one ring team in
Speaker 1: the country. I'm not sure anytime as you see ever
Speaker 1: beaten one and two in the country. And within about
Speaker 1: a month period. We'll see what happens down the road.
Speaker 1: But this morning in Davos, Switzerland, Donald Trump did a
Speaker 1: fabulous job of putting the cheese on the cracker with
Speaker 1: these with these situations in Europe, at one point he said,
Speaker 1: you can sip your wine and eat your cheese. As
Speaker 1: Muslim rape squads pillaged the countryside and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the European leaders didn't know what to do. Plus believe
Speaker 1: it or not, in about a week or eight days
Speaker 1: or so, we're going to have a shutdown of the
Speaker 1: government again. According to some of the Democrats, they want
Speaker 1: to shut down the government this time over ice. But
Speaker 1: until then, Warren Davidson, the Congressman, welcome again to the
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham Show. And Congressman, how are you.
Speaker 3: It's always an honored to join you.
Speaker 2: Well, I understand, I understand.
Speaker 1: This afternoon you've had meetings pow wows with other Democrats.
Speaker 1: There's a representations of Elon Omar and Nancy Pelosi and
Speaker 1: Congressman Goldman of New York City. They may shut down
Speaker 1: the government because of ice. But then there's other reporting
Speaker 1: on newsmax dot com that there's about twenty more or
Speaker 1: less reasonable Democrats in the Congress that say nah, bab nah.
Speaker 1: In fact, there is a Democrat in the Senate, Patty Murray,
Speaker 1: as you know, in the state of Washington, who's telling
Speaker 1: you and others that we have a deal as far
Speaker 1: as cutting back some of the spending of ice. Where
Speaker 1: do things stand this Wednesday afternoon, about twelve ten in
Speaker 1: the afternoon, Where do things stand?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: The Senate's out this week, uh, and so the House
Speaker 4: is voting on what we think will be the final package. Uh,
Speaker 4: and we will have gotten through all the appropriations. Now
Speaker 4: this isn't what we call regular order because they're not
Speaker 4: like standalone bills. They're not really subject to amendment. They're
Speaker 4: all pre negotiated deals, and so it turns into kind
Speaker 4: of take it or leave it, And you know, some
Speaker 4: of them will pass with overwhelming bipartisan audority's. But the
Speaker 4: one that definite Democrats have definitely said they want to
Speaker 4: stop is homeland security.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: But I will say I don't think it's every Democrat
Speaker 4: that you know, they there were some, you know, like
Speaker 4: Corey Bush remembers she thankfully is no longer in Congress,
Speaker 4: but she was the trazy lady in Saint Louis who
Speaker 4: was like, no, we meant defund the police when we
Speaker 4: said defund the police.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: And they found out from the public that they better
Speaker 4: rebrand that so that they didn't really mean defund the
Speaker 4: police when they were voting to defund the police, so
Speaker 4: they tried to pretend that they were meaning something else.
Speaker 4: She's like, no, no, we meant defund the police. And
Speaker 4: now defund ice might be the next dumbest thing that
Speaker 4: they've come up with and you know, you saw this
Speaker 4: young man who's working for ICE stops and talks to
Speaker 4: a protesters like, look, we're en route to arrest a
Speaker 4: child sex predator, and you guys are stopping us from
Speaker 4: doing our jobs. Yeah, we're going to grab this guy,
Speaker 4: We're going to try him and then deport them where
Speaker 4: he's going to get some justice. And you're stopping our
Speaker 4: enforcement action. So these are the crazy positions they're taking.
Speaker 4: And so I think there's some Democrats. We're going to
Speaker 4: call it on a separate vote, in part because we
Speaker 4: don't want them to hide behind it and say, well,
Speaker 4: I wanted to defund this, that or the other thing.
Speaker 4: We want to clean vote on homeland security appropriations, and
Speaker 4: then we'll blend it all together and send the package
Speaker 4: of the Senate.
Speaker 3: See what they do.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I made a reference to this on
Speaker 1: my ex account, and that is deporting illegals, criminals and
Speaker 1: otherwise have not been controversial at all until recently. I
Speaker 1: played for the American people the comments of Bill Clinton
Speaker 1: to the State the Union address.
Speaker 2: Al Gore was on board with this.
Speaker 1: Then I played the comments of Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer,
Speaker 1: and Joe Biden and brock Hussein Obama. They sound like
Speaker 1: Donald Trump or you or me. This was ten years ago.
Speaker 1: In fact, in twenty fifteen, there's a high Civilian award
Speaker 1: given to it the person and the federal bureaucracy that
Speaker 1: the President considers to be performed in exemplary fashion his duties.
Speaker 1: And that person in twenty fifteen, I'm looking at the
Speaker 1: photo was a guy named Tom Homan.
Speaker 3: So Tom Homan amazing.
Speaker 1: Tom Holman is wine dined in pocket lined Oliver Washington
Speaker 1: by the Democrats for deporting illegals.
Speaker 2: What the hell happened?
Speaker 4: Yeah, somewhere along the way they changed the plan. And
Speaker 4: I don't think they truly changed the plan. They would
Speaker 4: they would hide behind those we are deporting people, you know.
Speaker 4: Meanwhile they were saying, well, yeah, but on the other side,
Speaker 4: we're bringing in a lot of illegals, so this is
Speaker 4: just optics so we can move the public alawn. And
Speaker 4: that's really what was underway back then. They would celebrate
Speaker 4: the things they're doing to secure the border and then
Speaker 4: pretend there's nothing we could.
Speaker 2: Do, right, we can't do it, we can't do it.
Speaker 4: But then Donald Trump came in and they got serious
Speaker 4: of that immigration when Donald Trump came in, because he's like, no.
Speaker 3: We're not doing that, and he did. He meant it
Speaker 3: in the first administration.
Speaker 4: He wasn't going to do the fake deport these people,
Speaker 4: but flowed the other people in the country. He was
Speaker 4: going to get serious about securing the border. And that's
Speaker 4: really what broke them. It was Trump arrangement syndrome and
Speaker 4: just the realization that he really was going to change
Speaker 4: the rules of the game.
Speaker 1: I'm going to show Tony Bender, my producer, I can't
Speaker 1: do it in the radio. All the awards given to
Speaker 1: Barack Husain Obama's ice chief for the removal. These are
Speaker 1: the words of President Barack Husain Obama during his term.
Speaker 1: I'm proud to announce that Tom Homan has deported about
Speaker 1: four hundred and nine thousand illegal criminals from our country,
Speaker 1: including an additional two point five million. You shouldn't be
Speaker 1: here in the first place, just to come into America
Speaker 1: as a crime itself, said President Obama, as you put
Speaker 1: this gold medal around the neck of Tom Homan.
Speaker 2: Now that's something the media will not deal with.
Speaker 1: But right now Trump is not even close to the
Speaker 1: deportations of Obama, not even close because he's at every
Speaker 1: turn he's being stopped, but he will not be stopped.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's going to be a government shut
Speaker 1: down in a week? Congressman? What do you say, get
Speaker 1: out your crystal ball? What does Thomas Massey say about this?
Speaker 1: What does Ran Paul say about this? There'll be Republicans
Speaker 1: voting against it.
Speaker 2: What do you say?
Speaker 3: I think there will not be a shutdown.
Speaker 4: I think look, there's things in these mills, and the
Speaker 4: real is, Look, we're not going to vote on an
Speaker 4: ideal funding package, right, and look, the coalition that we've
Speaker 4: got is a Republican coalition. There's not like one unified
Speaker 4: idiotology that gives us this narrow, narrow majority in the
Speaker 4: House and a functionally narrow majority in the Senate. That's
Speaker 4: the easier mass as people know. Look, Susan Collins and
Speaker 4: Lisa Murkowski are sort of different kind of Republicans and
Speaker 4: a lot of the folks that were out there, so
Speaker 4: we've got that in spades in the House, a lot
Speaker 4: of personalities.
Speaker 3: But I think the real question.
Speaker 4: Is, is the package that we're going to vote on
Speaker 4: this week in the House and next week in the Senate,
Speaker 4: is that better than a status quo continuing resolution.
Speaker 3: And right now it.
Speaker 4: Looks like the winds We're still negotiating here in the
Speaker 4: House right up to the clock until we vote probably
Speaker 4: Thursday or Friday on the package, But it looks like
Speaker 4: we're going to land something that is going to be
Speaker 4: better than a status quo CR. Maybe not a lot better,
Speaker 4: but it's something. And I think the crazy thing there
Speaker 4: are going to be Democrats that also go, all right,
Speaker 4: we agree, this is probably better than a status quo CR.
Speaker 4: And when you start seeing Democrats agree, usually that means
Speaker 4: they're either spending more money or Republicans are making concessions.
Speaker 4: So those are the kind of things we're going through
Speaker 4: right now to say what kind of deals were cut
Speaker 4: in here?
Speaker 3: What are we missing? Because at the.
Speaker 4: End of the day, this is over a thousand pages
Speaker 4: of new policy we're going to vote on this week.
Speaker 2: Do you actually speak to Tom Massey?
Speaker 1: I mean, I like the guy personally, but he seems
Speaker 1: like he's he's off track. You do you speak to
Speaker 1: him to give him whisper in his ear? Sometimes? Said Tom,
Speaker 1: comment down a little bit. I mean, do you guys
Speaker 1: talk to each other?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, yeah, he's a good friend and a great guy.
Speaker 4: And look, I love him and I love President Trump,
Speaker 4: and I wish that they weren't feuding. But Thomas is
Speaker 4: easy to understand. He wants less government. Yeah, and there
Speaker 4: are a lot of Republicans that want, you know, more government.
Speaker 4: They just wanted to do Republican things instead of Democrat things. Well,
Speaker 4: when they put those kind of bills on the floor,
Speaker 4: Thomas isn't going to vote for him.
Speaker 3: And you know, if you want to do.
Speaker 4: Foreign aid, whether it's for you know, Canada or Greenland
Speaker 4: or Israel or any other country, Thomas didn't len' for it.
Speaker 4: Now that's not a mystery. And people say, well, you
Speaker 4: know he voted against this big thing here, just like
Speaker 4: the Democrats. Well for way different reasons, right, I mean
Speaker 4: totally different reasons. And I think that's a dishonest characterization
Speaker 4: that people a lot of these.
Speaker 3: People who don't really know and.
Speaker 4: Don't follow it, and they're like, oh, who's this guy,
Speaker 4: He's a rhino Like well, maybe in the sense that
Speaker 4: Republicans don't really want a smaller, more accountable government, or
Speaker 4: we'd eventually get one. You got to house, the Senate,
Speaker 4: in the White House. Definits are drolling, they're not shrinking.
Speaker 4: So Massy's out there, and it's like when I said
Speaker 4: I wanted a smaller government, I'm in it. So if
Speaker 4: you put that on the floor, I'll vote for it.
Speaker 4: If you don't, I'm not voting for it. That's a
Speaker 4: lot of inflexibility where Trump's like, look, I kind of
Speaker 4: get it, but you're not helping me get what I
Speaker 4: can get across the finishing line. And that's where like, look,
Speaker 4: Trump didn't want to keep any part of the Green
Speaker 4: New Deal in the big beautiful bill, and unfortunately we
Speaker 4: couldn't get rid of it. We barely got the votes
Speaker 4: to defund NPR for goodness sakes. But that's where some
Speaker 4: of the frustration is, is like, people are Trump kind
Speaker 4: of turned his guns on Massy, when the reality is
Speaker 4: the people were really betraying the movement were the moderates
Speaker 4: that kept the Green New Deal funding. And you know,
Speaker 4: I think that pragmatically, Trump's realized, well, I can't go
Speaker 4: to war with twenty people, but I.
Speaker 3: Might be able to go to war with one.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I noticed yesterday the Department of Treasury
Speaker 1: said America has now hit thirty nine trillion dollars in debt.
Speaker 1: I set thirty nine trillion dollars in debt, and so
Speaker 1: I get Tom Massey's point completely. I think given your druthers,
Speaker 1: you would agree we have to live within our means.
Speaker 1: So what argument do I have to liberal Democrats that
Speaker 1: the Republican Party is good on debt when under Trump
Speaker 1: the first time, spending went up about seven trillion dollars
Speaker 1: extra in debt, and now in the first year of
Speaker 1: the Trump term, we had about another seven hundred billion
Speaker 1: dollars on our way to a trillion, a trillion here
Speaker 1: and a trillion there. Suddenly we have a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Right now it's thirty nine trillion dollars. How do you
Speaker 1: respond to the issue that we spend money on different
Speaker 1: things and that debt simply goes up.
Speaker 2: What do you say about that one?
Speaker 3: That's true?
Speaker 4: I mean, like I say, I mean, we want a
Speaker 4: smaller government, but we're not getting one, and you know,
Speaker 4: we don't have the votes to deliver one. And that's
Speaker 4: where I'm like, Look, we do not have a unified
Speaker 4: political party that has like one set of ideologies. We've
Speaker 4: got a Republican coalition and it's a whole range of people.
Speaker 4: If you want to smaller more accountable governments, then reinforcements,
Speaker 4: but don't direct your fire against guys like Tom Massey.
Speaker 4: Direct your fire against the people that.
Speaker 3: Want more government.
Speaker 4: And you know, I call these guys the Surrender Caucus.
Speaker 4: It's not a formal group. They don't hold meetings and
Speaker 4: they don't disclose their lists. But you can look at
Speaker 4: like the vote on you know, saving Obamacare. No Republican
Speaker 4: voted on saving Obamacare and continuing these COVID subsidies on
Speaker 4: Obama Healthcare, but seventeen Republicans voted to keep that going.
Speaker 4: And they're like, well, we can't just cut it off
Speaker 4: cold turkey. I'm like, COVID's been over since you know,
Speaker 4: twenty one. You know, you're sitting here. We've carried it
Speaker 4: on for an extra four years. And it's just payments
Speaker 4: to insurance companies and it's not even traditional Obamacare.
Speaker 3: But people don't want to explain it.
Speaker 4: They're like, well, people think we're turning off all of Obamacare.
Speaker 4: We just need to keep cutting the checks. Now, those
Speaker 4: are the people that keep us from doing good things.
Speaker 1: You know, you kind of have a district that includes
Speaker 1: parts of Cincinnati, is that true, Well.
Speaker 4: Doesn't include any of the city limits.
Speaker 3: It's basically the west side.
Speaker 4: So everything essentially from the Ronald Regan bypassed like Wyoming
Speaker 4: right there, Glendale side of seventy five except for o
Speaker 4: High Township right to the city limits is the district.
Speaker 3: Of course, it's changed in this.
Speaker 4: Election cycle, and we'll go all the way over at
Speaker 4: the eighth district to go all over to Blue Ash
Speaker 4: and have Montgomery parts of Madeira and Indian Hill.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, what about what about Kenwood? Who's my congressman?
Speaker 1: I know everything. I have no idea who my congressman is.
Speaker 1: Who's he now? Is it Landsman?
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 4: It's Greg Lansman. And if everything goes right in January
Speaker 4: third to next year, it'll become Warren Davidson.
Speaker 1: Well, that's good. I can call you, I can be
Speaker 1: constituent anger. I'll be angry at you all the time.
Speaker 3: So that'll I'll have to have an extra phone line added.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Lastly, there's a movement of foot uh in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: Which I think, uh, we know what's going to happen
Speaker 1: in November if things don't go the right way. The
Speaker 1: impeachment trials of every cabinet official, beginning with the course,
Speaker 1: President Trump and I think JD. Vance and everyone knows
Speaker 1: at the top of the list all of them are
Speaker 1: going to be impeached. Can you imagine in November if
Speaker 1: the American people unwisely turn over the Congress to elon
Speaker 1: Omar and her ilk and they're in charge of the
Speaker 1: Congress with subpoena power. Talk to me about the road
Speaker 1: that would be taken in November.
Speaker 3: It's the same one they've already done. I mean, in
Speaker 3: a minute. The Democrats have the majeordy.
Speaker 4: They try to push a discharge on impeaching Christy Nome,
Speaker 4: you know, this year already, so they want to get
Speaker 4: rid of Christy Nome and book. You know, for the
Speaker 4: for the people that are frustrated, that's a good sign
Speaker 4: she's onto something. The HS is getting something productive done
Speaker 4: because the Democrats want to impeach her. But you know, nevertheless,
Speaker 4: look at how much time that will take in distraction
Speaker 4: and frankly money. You know, they impeached President Trump over
Speaker 4: calling Ukraine and saying shouldn't somebody look into this? And
Speaker 4: most of the things that you say shouldn't somebody look into?
Speaker 4: Once the investigations were done were vindicated. I mean Hunter
Speaker 4: Biden was getting deals from Ukraine. Ukraine was paying out
Speaker 4: money and corruption, and all he said was you got
Speaker 4: to look into that. And you're like, why wouldn't the
Speaker 4: State Department do that? Why wouldn't the Department of.
Speaker 3: Justice do that?
Speaker 4: It took the President of the United States to do it,
Speaker 4: and because he was over the target, Democrats impeached him
Speaker 4: for it.
Speaker 2: Are you endorsing are you.
Speaker 3: Doubt that they would continue to do it?
Speaker 1: Warren Davidson? Are you endorsing Thomas Massey? Whatever that's worth
Speaker 1: in Ohio to Kentucky, Are you endorsing Congressman Thomas Massey?
Speaker 1: Would you vote for him Northern Kentucky if you could.
Speaker 4: If I lived in Northern Kentucky, I would enthusiastically vote
Speaker 4: for Thomas Massey. I think he's a great guy. He's
Speaker 4: a truly effective member of Congress. And you know, look,
Speaker 4: I love President Trump, I love Thomas. I wish they
Speaker 4: would get along better. But I'm not confused by his votes.
Speaker 4: And I'd say, don't fall for the information off out
Speaker 4: there on Thomas.
Speaker 3: He's a good guy doing the right things.
Speaker 4: There are some where you're like, man, we need your vote,
Speaker 4: and that's where I get frustrated right with some of
Speaker 4: the folks. I'm not going to say there's no room
Speaker 4: on the right if this is NASCAR and racing, but
Speaker 4: that's where the wall is, right, you don't go into
Speaker 4: the wall. I think Massy might have some paint off
Speaker 4: the right side of the car there because he hit
Speaker 4: the wall.
Speaker 3: A couple of times.
Speaker 4: And you know, if you don't pass anything, nothing changes.
Speaker 4: So at some point you got to look at it
Speaker 4: and say, well, we got to pass the best thing
Speaker 4: that we can get across the finish line. There's a
Speaker 4: couple of things there where I think people get frustrated because.
Speaker 3: We don't have the votes.
Speaker 4: But my frustration is on the other end, like why
Speaker 4: are we boxed into this situation. We did and campaign
Speaker 4: on saving the Green New Deal. Every Republican voted against it.
Speaker 4: But now when we have the majority and it's time
Speaker 4: to play the cards, the people that are betraying the movement,
Speaker 4: they're not even getting named.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: That's what I call the surrender caucus. They're the reason
Speaker 4: we can't have nice things. That's my frustration, and in
Speaker 4: general I have a weight in against those folks and primaries.
Speaker 4: I just say send reinforcements for people that really do
Speaker 4: want to do what we say we would do, and yeah,
Speaker 4: tell us this frustration is, let's do what we said.
Speaker 3: We would do, and we're not doing that.
Speaker 1: You can't do that. And and just look, Democrats are
Speaker 1: like pack animals. If one goes one direction, I guarantee
Speaker 1: you you're not going to have ten or twenty Democrats
Speaker 1: break off from M CKEM Jeffries and Alan Omar and
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi and be on their own. Democrats are pack animals,
Speaker 1: and of course Republicans are like cats. They're pretty hard
Speaker 1: to herd. But we'll see what happens by if you
Speaker 1: had to put your chips down, whether it be a
Speaker 1: government shut down on the thirtieth or not.
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think they'll be a big
Speaker 4: deal cut. But that basically means that we're going to
Speaker 4: get more spending and more debt.
Speaker 1: Well great, well some of the accomplishments. I look at
Speaker 1: things like immigration. Trump did that, ending DEI, he did that,
Speaker 1: returning public education in the States, he did that. Lowering
Speaker 1: drug costs was going to metastasize in the next few weeks.
Speaker 2: He did that.
Speaker 1: Deregulation, the big beautiful bill that's going to be realized
Speaker 1: sometime in the first quarter of this year. No tax
Speaker 1: on tips and overtime social security. And also we have
Speaker 1: the President of Peace who spoke this morning in Davos.
Speaker 1: I loved every minute of it. Congressman Warren Davidson, you're
Speaker 1: a great American. I look forward today that Greg Landsman
Speaker 1: will not be my Congressman.
Speaker 2: It'll be you. So get ready for my phone calls.
Speaker 3: I can't wait. And look, one big thing.
Speaker 4: Not only did President Trump secure the border, Olkins give
Speaker 4: him a lot of money to do it, and that
Speaker 4: was another key part of the big beautiful bill. So
Speaker 4: in the worst case scenario, even if the Homeland Security
Speaker 4: bill gets caught up and somehow the demotrats succeed in that,
Speaker 4: know that we're going to keep securing the border.
Speaker 1: Well we'll see what occurs. Tough times don't last, but
Speaker 1: tough men and women do. My mother was a tough
Speaker 1: woman who weighed ninety five pounds, and she pointed her
Speaker 1: finger at me. I could be thirty five or forty
Speaker 1: years old at all I did say yes Mom.
Speaker 2: That's all. I said, yes Mom. I called her ma,
Speaker 2: Yes Ma.
Speaker 1: She said, Billy you're going to do this, Augize, Ma,
Speaker 1: I'm going to do it so it's not about the size,
Speaker 1: it's about the power, and the Trumpster's got the power.
Speaker 1: Warren Davidson, you're a great American. Thanks for coming on
Speaker 1: the Bill Cunningham Show. And God bless you, and God
Speaker 1: bless America.
Speaker 3: Thank you always an honor. God bless you and all
Speaker 3: your listeners.
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