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Speaker 1: He is our good buddy, Anthony Rousseau. How are you

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Speaker 1: How are you, Anthony? If I was any better, I'd

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Speaker 1: This shutdown is just it. It's farcical. At this point,

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Speaker 1: Well, somebody said to me, you hasked to ask me yesterday,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the biggest, it's the most flawed part of

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Speaker 3: I'm instituting an executive.

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Speaker 2: Order saying there has to be term limits.

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Speaker 3: And there's just no way to change it. And that

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Speaker 2: The only people that can vote on it.

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Speaker 3: The way that we vote on term limits is by

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Speaker 2: It is the definition of insanity.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Russo, our guest. We're talking about Washington. The hilarity

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Speaker 3: The Iranian women, especially Iranian Americans, are most beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Send me out there, all right.

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Speaker 1: You can find him, as he said on social media

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Speaker 1: He's reading this guy that I have a lot of

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Speaker 1: respect for. And Joe Shean has written about baseball for

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Speaker 1: most of his adult life. He has The Reds has

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Speaker 1: a middle of the pack team this year, finishing eighty

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Speaker 1: four and seventy eight and third in the NL Central.

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Speaker 1: But he says injuries in one run games will make

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Speaker 1: up all the difference as to whether or not this

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Speaker 1: team is competitive or not. And there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of things that we don't know about. We don't know

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Speaker 1: about Chase Burns full time as a starter. We don't

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Speaker 1: know about rhtt Louder. We know the best pitcher they

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Speaker 1: have on their roster will not be available until July.

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Speaker 1: And we know Nick Lendolo it's another blister. We don't

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Speaker 1: know if Matt McClean is going to be the Matt

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Speaker 1: McLain of last year or the Matt McLean that burst

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Speaker 1: on the scene a couple of years ago. Andrew Abbod pitched, well,

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Speaker 1: he knows all about overreacting on opening day a long.

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Speaker 6: Long season. As we know, we're gonna we're gonna see

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Speaker 6: each other a lot more. You know, fans are gonna

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Speaker 6: have a lot more opportunities to come out and see

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Speaker 6: us play. You know, it's one game, it's one day,

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Speaker 6: you know, use the off day reset, come ready to

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Speaker 6: go against Sonny and the Red Slocks.

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Speaker 1: I'll be today four to ten. Start inside pitch starts

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Speaker 1: at three ten. The other big story this week Jared Calhoun,

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Speaker 1: head coach University of Cincinnati. This is a wise hire.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why, and and this is just

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Speaker 1: from somebody that has witnessed what goes on at that

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Speaker 1: university over the course of the last forty years. You

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Speaker 1: can't stray from your legacy, really can't. There are just

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Speaker 1: some places where legacy is important, and they've tried to

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Speaker 1: at that university with the last couple of HighRes and

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Speaker 1: finally John Cunningham got it right. No disrespect to Westminer.

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Speaker 1: He came on, he gave it his best shot, but

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Speaker 1: he was not from the legacy. The legacy, of course,

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Speaker 1: is Bob Huggins John Brannan. There were some issues with

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Speaker 1: John Brannan, both on and off the court, but they

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Speaker 1: strayed from the legacy. So here comes Calhoun, who worked

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Speaker 1: on Huggin's staff both here in West Virginia. This is

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Speaker 1: a home run. It should be a home run. It

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Speaker 1: is not difficult to go from being where the University

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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati was this year to being an NCAA team,

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Speaker 1: not just one year, but several years in't playing deep.

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Speaker 1: You have to have the legacy as a powerful thing.

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Speaker 1: You just can't go out and be a basketball coach

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Speaker 1: and recruit this guy, recruit that guy, you know, pay

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Speaker 1: that guy some money, pay that guy some money and

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Speaker 1: think it's all going to work. You have to embrace

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Speaker 1: what has made that particular team so good, or you

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Speaker 1: have to be a head coach that just comes in,

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Speaker 1: turns things upside down and bowls forward and knows exactly

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Speaker 1: what you're doing. And you're gonna do it, and if

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Speaker 1: the legacy wants to get behind you, great, and if

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Speaker 1: it doesn't, well that doesn't matter because I'm a coach

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Speaker 1: and I have proven results. Now, that would be what

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Speaker 1: would be occurring at UCLA right now with mc cronin.

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Speaker 1: He was not part of the UCLA legacy, but he

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Speaker 1: came in and just put his stamp on that team

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Speaker 1: and in essence, in his own way, is creating his

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Speaker 1: own legacy out there at Los Angeles. But that's a

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Speaker 1: rare thing when you're coaching at a university that has

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Speaker 1: a storied basketball program. That's why I think Calhoun was

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Speaker 1: a great hire for U. See over and above what

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Speaker 1: he did at Utah State. Here's Calhoun at his news conference.

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Speaker 7: Kids will die to play at the University of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: This is an incredible town with incredible.

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Speaker 7: Fan base, and I think we'll be able to tract

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Speaker 7: some of the best players in the country, whether that's

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Speaker 7: through the portal high school, retaining our current guys.

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Speaker 1: We have to look at everything. Yeah, and honestly, if

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Speaker 1: you're going in there and saying I work with Bob Huggins,

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Speaker 1: I represent the school that Bob Huggins achieved his well,

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Speaker 1: he did take West Virginia to the Final four as well,

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Speaker 1: but achieved his greatest success. I think that counts for something.

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Speaker 1: Now he's got to go out and do it. It's not

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Speaker 1: like you can do that with a high school kid

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Speaker 1: and say I can build a program through great recruit

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Speaker 1: The high school kids going to want to come here

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Speaker 1: because we have these great facilities and because you know,

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Speaker 1: this is a school that's been to the Final four

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Speaker 1: and has won national championships, albeit sixty years ago, and

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Speaker 1: this No players want to get paid. It's all different. Now.

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Speaker 1: Players want money. It's all about ani Allen who he

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Speaker 1: can bring in. And so there's got to be that

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Speaker 1: kind of support for this guy or he's not going

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Speaker 1: to have the kind of success I think he's capable

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Speaker 1: of having. So the money's got to be there. But

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Speaker 1: you put money with legacy and a front guy, in

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Speaker 1: this case Calhoun, who is part of that legacy. I

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Speaker 1: think that's a pretty damn good combination for getting this

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Speaker 1: team not just winning again, but getting it into NCAA

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Speaker 1: tournaments and playing deep again. There's no brainer. The third

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Speaker 1: story this week that I thought was kind of interesting

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Speaker 1: and happy to see this happening. Joe Flacco is back

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Speaker 1: with the Bengals.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 1: I said this many times last year. I'll say it

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Speaker 1: again right now. I really think Joe Burrow has never

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Speaker 1: had a quote unquote big brother on that team. He

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Speaker 1: had Brandon Allen, he had Jake Browning. I mean, those

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Speaker 1: are guys that have no real experience in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the experience Browning had is an experience all

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Speaker 1: of us would like to forget. But the fact of

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Speaker 1: the matter is, here's Flacco quarterback to Super Bowl win.

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Speaker 1: Here's Flacco played a lot of NFL games, was with

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Speaker 1: a lot of franchises. The Bengals did some hocus pocus

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Speaker 1: and got him in last season, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: somebody that Burrow can look at it and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: finally somebody that has done what I think we can

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Speaker 1: do here. Now, Flacco wasn't exactly happy that he was back.

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Speaker 1: He's happy he was back, but obviously he wanted to

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Speaker 1: find a team where he could start. He did not

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Speaker 1: find that team. It's always back here in Cincinnati. And

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Speaker 1: this is this, I think, was his quote of the

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Speaker 1: day at his news conference on Thursday. I'm I'm very

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Speaker 1: happy to be here.

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Speaker 9: And that's and that's also why I don't see this

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Speaker 9: as the end, Like that's just not how I'm doing

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Speaker 9: it in my mind. Like I feel like I can

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Speaker 9: help a team win, and yeah, maybe in a different

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Speaker 9: role here, but I do still think I can help

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Speaker 9: this team win in that role. I had a lot

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Speaker 9: of fun with Joe, and Joe's the guy, and believe me,

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Speaker 9: I wish I was a guy somewhere and I think

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Speaker 9: teams are dumb for not having me be that guy.

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Speaker 9: But it is what it is, and I'm not going

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Speaker 9: to let me. I'm not going to let them or

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Speaker 9: it get me down. I'm going to be the person

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Speaker 9: I am and just approach football the way I always have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, it's somebody for Burrow to look at

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Speaker 1: and talk to that has had an infinitely longer career

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Speaker 1: than Burrow has had and has had a lot of success.

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Speaker 1: I just I think that was a major factor last

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Speaker 1: year in that team. And now if you got Burrow

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Speaker 1: healthy for an entire season and this guy sitting next

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Speaker 1: to him saying, hey, you know what I saw that

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe think about this next time or whatever,

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Speaker 1: I think it's invaluable. I know he's got a position

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Speaker 1: coach on the team. But it's kind of like you

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Speaker 1: got your parent telling you one thing. In this case

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Speaker 1: the coach. You know what It's like, You got your

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Speaker 1: parent who's telling you this, this and this, but you

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Speaker 1: really are listening to your friend. The friend may be

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Speaker 1: right too, it might be right in line with the parent,

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Speaker 1: but you'll listen to him before you listen to mom

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Speaker 1: and dad. I think that's what hopefully will go on

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Speaker 1: this year. We'll see it's coming up on twelve fifty four,

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Speaker 1: a lot more to get to. Is inflation really out

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Speaker 1: of control again? Are we going down that road again?

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Speaker 1: And if we are, how do you put the brakes on?

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Speaker 1: Because I don't really think we've seen it as bad

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Speaker 1: as it may be coming. We'll get into that next.

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday afternoon and we're counting down to Reds Baseball

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Speaker 1: seven hundred wl WT.

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Speaker 10: Now your host Ken Brew on News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: Want to wait in the Tri State Bread's Baseball Down

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Speaker 1: the Road, game two of the season. You'll hear it

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Speaker 1: here beginning at three to ten with the inside pitch

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Speaker 1: first pitches at four o'clock against the Boston Red Sox,

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Speaker 1: and of course everyone here hoping for something different than

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Speaker 1: what occurred on Opening Day. For that matter, opening day night.

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Speaker 1: The war in Iran continues and there doesn't seem to

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Speaker 1: be any end in sight to it. I think Trump

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Speaker 1: right now, the president is trying to protect as much

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Speaker 1: as possible the oil infrastructure in that country because it

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Speaker 1: will have to have some sort of impact on the

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Speaker 1: oil production in this world post this war, and obviously

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Speaker 1: trying to keep the straight of horror moves open, all

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Speaker 1: while trying to take out the Iranian military as much

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Speaker 1: as he can and end this thing quickly. But back

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Speaker 1: here at home, oil prices, as you know, are now

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Speaker 1: starting to climb once again, and as you know, it

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Speaker 1: is becoming more difficult to go about our everyday lines.

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Speaker 1: In fact, if you just look at the where oil

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Speaker 1: closed last week, and it was up and down, it

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Speaker 1: morphed up in down, it's very difficult to predict. You

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Speaker 1: have investors that just you know, if they sent somebody burping,

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Speaker 1: that'll throw them into a complete tizzy. But oil last week,

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Speaker 1: as it went up and down, ended with the price

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Speaker 1: of a down of gasoline at least around here in

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Speaker 1: the tri State about four dollars some places you can

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Speaker 1: find about three eighty five three ninety diesel. Five thirty

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Speaker 1: six diesel is what fuels eighteen wheelers the trucks to

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Speaker 1: get product from one point to another, and that would

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Speaker 1: include things like fuel, food, and if fuel prices go up,

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Speaker 1: somebody has to pay for that, and invariably it's you

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Speaker 1: and me, and that is where inflation comes in. There

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Speaker 1: are some who think that the Midi's crisis could cause

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Speaker 1: percent at some point this year. The G seven continues

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Speaker 1: to meet, So all of that is going on, and

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Speaker 1: all of this goes on right now with a guy

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Speaker 1: that understands economic forces and how things like what is

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Speaker 1: occurring in Iran can affect the way you and I

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Speaker 1: go about our daily lives. He is the author of

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Speaker 1: the number one Amazon best selling book Rethinking Economic Growth,

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Speaker 1: and just looking at his resume, everybody from here to

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Speaker 1: there and everywhere in between want to hear from Dan Voroni,

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Speaker 1: economic strategist. I called him a financial planner once and

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Speaker 1: actually he can probably do that for you as well. Dan,

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Speaker 1: how are you on this glorious day?

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Speaker 8: I am terrific. Happy Saturday and happy Opening Day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hope. Look, do you are you one who

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Speaker 1: anticipates that eventually what what's going on and or on

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Speaker 1: besides just the price of fuel? Are you one who

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Speaker 1: believes that and eventually will affect other things in this

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Speaker 1: country like goods and services?

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Speaker 8: So the answer is it's affecting everything now. And I

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Speaker 8: want to talk about two things with you, Ken, because

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Speaker 8: they're both Germaine to our conversation today. The first is

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Speaker 8: oil prices as a result of the oil price shock

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Speaker 8: in the Middle East, and the second is the bond market.

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Speaker 8: How one is triggered the other and how the other

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Speaker 8: has some extreme complications that we need to put on

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Speaker 8: our radio screen. So let's start with oil. Okay, So

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Speaker 8: when you look at it right, so you're right, diesel

649
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 8: is up five thirty six. So in Cincinnati I tracked

650
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 8: it before we connected, and it's five dollars and five

651
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 8: cents on average of the average price of gasoline, and

652
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 8: Cincinnati is three dollars and eighty two cents. So the

653
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 8: West Texas creued that the US CREUD closed markets yesterday

654
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 8: at ninety nine sixty four of the brint that's the

655
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 8: overseas crewed clothed at one hundred and twelve dollars and

656
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 8: fifty seven cents. So let's talk about the chain reaction.

657
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 8: So everything in this country gets shipped from somewhere to

658
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 8: somewhere else. There are truckers. A number of these are

659
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 8: independent truckers. They're small businesses, and they are the front

660
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 8: lines of absorbing higher fuel costs. They can't afford to

661
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 8: absorb them on their own, and they pass them to

662
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 8: their customers. They can be food processors, they can be

663
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 8: distributors of equipment of food. They can be the US

664
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Speaker 8: Mail Service, they can be ups, they can be FedEx,

665
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 8: they can be retail grocery stores. So for all of

666
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 8: us who've been going to the food store of the

667
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 8: last couple of weeks, we're noticing that our food prices

668
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 8: have gone up. The price of produce, right, the price

669
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 8: of meat gone up. When you go and you look

670
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 8: at let's say the plumbing apply stores, the hardware stores,

671
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 8: we're seeing prices go up there. This is all connected

672
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Speaker 8: to the cost of diesel fuel. And that's the bottom line.

673
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 8: So I described diesel as a hidden tax on everything

674
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 8: that moves. If the price go up on diesel, we're

675
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 8: all going to pay more for everything we buy.

676
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And he mentioned that West Texas crewed was

677
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: at ninety nine, just under one hundred dollars a barrel.

678
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 1: There was movement south of that number when it looked

679
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: like there would be some progress in negotiating with Iran,

680
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,479
Speaker 1: but then again it just it shot right up. And

681
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: the Brent, the international barrel is one hundred and twelve. Yeah,

682
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: you're right, one hundred tell fifty seven. Here's what I

683
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: don't understand. I watched the cabinet meeting where the President

684
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: spoke for the first time in a setting like that

685
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: since the start of the war with Iran, and he

686
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: kept saying that we have plenty of oil here, that

687
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: oil for the United States is not a problem, it's

688
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: not a problem. Well, if it's not a problem, then

689
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: why is the price of a gallon of gasoline going up?

690
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: I mean, are we that dependent on international markets for

691
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: the price of oil, which we have an abundant supply

692
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: of under the ground of the United States. Why why

693
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: are our prices going up if indeed we have plenty

694
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: of oil here in the United States. I didn't understand

695
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: that there was a disconnect for.

696
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 8: Me, great question, and I've done a bunch of research

697
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 8: on that the last couple of weeks. Here's the answer.

698
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 8: The answer comes down plane and simple. So we yes,

699
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 8: we The President is right. We are next net exupporter

700
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 8: of oil about two percent of what comes out of

701
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 8: Straits of austral of Homers we utilize. The issue is

702
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 8: is that while the US produces oil locally, oil is

703
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 8: priced globally. That's the distinction and the difference. So it's

704
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 8: great that we're producing all this oil, so god forbid

705
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 8: there was ever a shortage, we'd be in much better

706
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 8: shape than we were in the nineteen seventies. But the

707
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 8: issue is it's price globally, and the price shock is

708
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 8: coming from the Middle East. Part of that price shock

709
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 8: is uncertainty. Part of that uncertainty is is that there

710
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 8: are a load of tankers in port not moving for

711
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 8: fear of being destroyed by the Iraqi Republican Guard Corps.

712
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 8: That's the challenge. Insurance companies are at a point now

713
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 8: that they're saying, we're wondering if we ought to honor

714
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 8: any more insurance, or maybe we ought to cancel insurance.

715
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 8: So what you have is that lack of availability coming

716
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 8: out of the Middle East, which primarily by the way.

717
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: Goes to Asia and then to Europe.

718
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 8: They're seeing a lack of supply. That lack of supply

719
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 8: increases prices, but those price increases are filled globally.

720
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Speaker 1: Okay, So are you saying that we have refineries in

721
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: this country, albeit very old refineries, haven't built one in

722
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Speaker 1: over fifty years. We have oil in this country. Why

723
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: don't we just refine our own oil and set our

724
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: own dam price here in the United States? I mean, again,

725
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: elementary question, But why do I care or why should

726
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: it be a problem that China has to pay more

727
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: and therefore me here in Cincinnati has to pay more?

728
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: Why is it globally set as opposed to just set

729
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: nationally here in the United States?

730
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Speaker 8: Good question. The answer is it on markets price the oil.

731
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 8: It how markets price the oil, and it's price globally.

732
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Speaker 8: Could it be different? Should it be different?

733
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 2: Sure?

734
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 8: But the state of play that we're in right now

735
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 8: is that oil is priced globally, and we're in a

736
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 8: global market. And while we've got what some will define

737
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 8: as an abundance here domestically, oil is still price globally.

738
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 8: But here's what I really want to share with you

739
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 8: is that the global energy shock that we're dealing with

740
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 8: has created another challenge. So I want you to think

741
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 8: of the bond market as the foundation of our entire

742
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 8: financial system. That key benchmark within that is the ten

743
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 8: year treasure reel yield. Rather, it's the baseline cost of

744
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 8: capital across our economy. So that yield rises, it immediately

745
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 8: pushes up mortgage rates, auto loans, and small business bar

746
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 8: and costs. At the same time, what we're seeing is like,

747
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 8: so we've seen some disruptive days in the stock market.

748
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 8: So when you see these higher yields in the tenure,

749
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,479
Speaker 8: people are pulling money out of stocks because investors are saying, hey,

750
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 8: now I can get a safer return in bonds. Sure

751
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 8: that pressures our equity market. So then it's also signaling

752
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 8: inflation concerns, meaning that the market believes that rates may

753
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 8: stay higher for longer. What we're seeing right now is

754
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 8: a chain reaction. First there's the energy shock, then there's

755
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 8: the higher yield in the bond market, leading to tighter

756
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 8: financial conditions, and then slower economic activity. This is why

757
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 8: the bond market is having such an outsized impact in

758
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 8: the point. I'm making this point for a key reason.

759
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 8: You and I have talked earlier this year, and I

760
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 8: said that I was highly confident that we would have

761
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 8: four percent economic growth. Based on what we're seeing now

762
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 8: on the slowing of economic activity, I'm expecting two percent

763
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 8: economic growth, two percent because of uncertainty. That uncertainty comes

764
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 8: from we don't know when the conflict will end. Now

765
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 8: the back end of that, the question you're going to

766
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 8: ask is, Dan, tell me when will prices come down

767
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 8: at the end of the Iran conflict. So two to

768
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 8: three weeks we'll see gasoline prices come down, six to

769
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 8: twelve week weeks we'll see diesel come down. The reason

770
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 8: why that takes longer is there's reasons for that. One

771
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 8: is it's a more complicated process and a more complicated

772
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 8: mixture to put diesel fuel together. Secondly, or the B

773
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 8: A to B part of that is there will be

774
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 8: goods that were priced at the higher price of diesel

775
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 8: until that inventory is gone or reduced. Businesses will keep

776
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 8: hiring at the higher price because they don't want to

777
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 8: have to eat that and take the loss. So what

778
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 8: I expect is six to twelve weeks fallowing the end

779
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 8: of conflict. But I think by the end of the

780
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 8: year I'm fully confident the prices we saw before the

781
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 8: conflict will return.

782
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: So you're not then, of the opinion that is being

783
00:43:55,040 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: espoused by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development that

784
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: inflation is in the United States, which is you know,

785
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: let's face it, it's tricky and it's made more complicated by

786
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: the way things are going with run. Are you of

787
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: the opinion that it will be over four percent here

788
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: and very soon?

789
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 8: So it may rise to that, But I'm now going

790
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 8: to give you the other side to that argument. I

791
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 8: appreciate and respect what the OECD has to say, but

792
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 8: in the big beautiful build, we have got a massive

793
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 8: supply side strategy and infusion going on. Where there are

794
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 8: concerns about inflation. On the other side, we have got

795
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 8: a supply side strategy in place. That's why I'm not

796
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 8: concerned about inflation going up and staying up because over time,

797
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 8: meessy price is going down.

798
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 2: And the other thing is all your.

799
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 8: Listeners are seeing more money in their paychecks from the

800
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 8: lower withholding rates. On average, they're getting between thirty five

801
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 8: hundred to thirty eight hundred in tax refunds. And it's helping, right, helping.

802
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 1: Right, No, No, true, absolutely true, And part and what's gonna.

803
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 8: Happen is is they will spend that money on the

804
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 8: supply side that will increase demand the broader. That demand increases,

805
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 8: that brings prices down. I am not in alignment with

806
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 8: what the ECD says.

807
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 1: Okay, all of this is is real for the American consumer,

808
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: and the specter of this will linger over the country.

809
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: I mean even diesel. If you are indeed right about diesel,

810
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: and it's it's going to be a three month process.

811
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: After the conflict in Iran is over, it still will

812
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: hang over the country with things like summer travel, with

813
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: things like things that are baked into pricing because of

814
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: current diesel prices, and all of that leads to us

815
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: to us to November and if it if it's not

816
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: percolating along, I don't think there are very many people

817
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: that are out there that are going to look at

818
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: that and do the deep dive that you have done.

819
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: This could have a real impact on a mid term

820
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: election that usually is not very good for the party

821
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: in power, and I think this is going to be

822
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: a difficult story for the GOP to tell through the

823
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: course of this summer and into the fall. Do you

824
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: agree with that.

825
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 8: So, because I'm a number person and a data person,

826
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 8: here's what I know that when you read the polling

827
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 8: data and you look at the popularity of the Republican

828
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 8: Party and the Democrat Party, I'm seeing the Democrat Party

829
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 8: is not sharing very well in their favorability numbers. Their

830
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 8: challenge is that they need to come up with a well,

831
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 8: if you don't like this, we've got a better plan.

832
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 8: The question can is our voter is going to automatically

833
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 8: flip and say where disgusted, We're just going to go

834
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 8: and vote for the other folks. Well, if the other

835
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 8: folks just have a strategy of you know, we don't

836
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 8: like this guy, that's not good enough. You've got to

837
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 8: have a substantial reason other than don't like this guy

838
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 8: or this guy screwed up or whatever it is. What's

839
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 8: your you know, what is your pitch? They have not

840
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 8: to produce a tangible pitch that says, if you put

841
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 8: us in power in the House and the Senate, here's

842
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 8: how your life.

843
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: Will be better.

844
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 8: I'm not hearing it yet, and until I hear it,

845
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 8: I'm going to say that I'm going to hold my

846
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 8: powder dry until we get to Labor Day and see

847
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 8: where things stand, and I think that's just the way.

848
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 8: It's just the way I see it, because I've never

849
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 8: seen party favorability ratings that low for Democrats, and I

850
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 8: think it's something that they've got.

851
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: To figure out.

852
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 8: And if they don't, I don't. I don't think that

853
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 8: people will automatically pull the lever for a Democrat candidates

854
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 8: because they're the other party.

855
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: I think this is a different year. Yeah, it is

856
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 1: a different year in a lot of different ways. There's

857
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: no question about it. And what's going on in Iran, Dan,

858
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: I got about thirty seconds. But if we're there and

859
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: we're doing what we're doing, we Dan, well better finish it.

860
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: It better not be one of those things where, Okay,

861
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: we're going to negotiate something here, because we'll be right

862
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: back in this thing in the next thirty six to

863
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: forty eight months. Guarantee it. It's either finish it or

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Speaker 1: you'll hear it. Here are your family Radio seven hundred

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Speaker 1: at w WELWT. Welcome back. I am Kenbrew. Are you stressed?

877
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: Everybody's stress? You know, stress is I think an all

878
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: encompassing word for not being comfortable. But stress is infinitely

879
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: more dangerous to you and to me and everyone else

880
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: than just not being comfortable. I think you know that

881
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: there's something often you're not sure why. Maybe it's worrying

882
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: about bills, worrying about safety. Maybe it's worry about your health.

883
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: Maybe you're going through a traumatic time in your life,

884
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: like a divorce. It could be a lot of anything.

885
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: But there are some states where stress is just at

886
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: an all time high. Now, I will freely admit that

887
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: I don't frequent the website the American Psychological Association. I

888
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: know where it is, I just don't read it because

889
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: why I'm not a psychology But it did a survey

890
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: about the stress and the stress levels in individual states.

891
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: And do you know the state with the most stress

892
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: the state that is the most stressed out? We're about

893
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Speaker 1: to find out and it is here in the tri

894
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: State standing by to help us with that. And why

895
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: stress is such a difficult thing for people to deal

896
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Speaker 1: with in life is someone who is in healthcare industry expert.

897
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Speaker 1: In fact, doctor Carolyn Rubert is nationally known. She's a

898
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Speaker 1: contributor to the Amazon International best selling book you Can

899
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Speaker 1: Overcome Anything, I mean anything, And she's kind enough to

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Speaker 1: carve out some of her time here today on seven

901
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Speaker 1: hundred WLW. And doctor Ruben, how aren't you on this

902
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: glorious day?

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Speaker 11: I am great, Rick, and thank you so much for

904
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 11: having me on the show.

905
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: That's okay, my name is Ken, but I'll go by Rick.

906
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, No, that's all right, that's all right.

907
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: Believe me, I've done enough shows on this radio station

908
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: where I should have done them under an assumed name.

909
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, why is stress such a difficult thing for

910
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: people to deal with? Because stress isn't going anywhere, It's

911
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: always going to be there, but yet we have a

912
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: difficult time dealing with it. White so.

913
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Speaker 11: Yeah, we do. And these days, stress can hit in

914
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 11: so many different directions, right, I Mean, we've got people

915
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 11: that are working without getting paid. We have people that

916
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 11: are trying to figure out, you know, what to do

917
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 11: with their kids, how to take care.

918
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: Of their kids anymore.

919
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 11: It's just it can be just this real quiet weight

920
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Speaker 11: it can sit. Honest, people don't even realize how stress

921
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 11: they are until they get to the point where, you know,

922
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Speaker 11: maybe they're not sleeping at night, or they find themselves

923
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 11: really irritated, and they just don't understand the why until

924
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 11: they start talking to somebody, or they step back and

925
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 11: just try to like figure out what's life all about,

926
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Speaker 11: and all of a sudden, you know, it's like, okay,

927
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 11: well I can see why stress. I can't pay my

928
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 11: bills anymore, and see why I'm stressed. I can't keep

929
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 11: my kids in the sports that they love to be in.

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00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 11: I can't even put gas in my car or buy

931
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Speaker 11: my groceries. And so it takes a toll on individuals

932
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Speaker 11: and they try to manage it as well as they can,

933
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 11: but their emotional strength just starts wearing down. And if

934
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Speaker 11: they're not talking to somebody, if they're not asking you

935
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Speaker 11: for help, but they're not asking for that support. It

936
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Speaker 11: can really take a toll to the point where there's

937
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Speaker 11: just mental health it's just not good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, dead on on all of that, and

939
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Speaker 1: even just the sense of isolationism you talk about not

940
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: talking to somebody professionally or just in a friend sequence.

941
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Speaker 1: Those without friends, those without support groups, I think tend

942
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Speaker 1: to fall into that problem quicker than those of us

943
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Speaker 1: that do have it. I'm looking at this list. Louisiana

944
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Speaker 1: is number one on the list. Now people would say,

945
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: wait a minute, stress Louisiana. French Quarter party every night.

946
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: But Louisiana is one of the poorest states in the country,

947
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Speaker 1: and that's why it lands at number one on the list.

948
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Speaker 1: But number two is Kentucky. Kentucky falls on the list

949
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Speaker 1: because of unemployment, bankruptcy, and family strain. Now, Kentucky, the

950
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Speaker 1: Great Commonwealth, sits about ten minutes south of where I

951
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: am right now. There's some great people in Kentucky. But

952
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: so according to this, there may be some great people

953
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: that are walking around with unemployment problems, bankruptcy problems, and

954
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: family members they don't like. So sometimes you don't even

955
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: know if it's in your own backyard, right.

956
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 11: That is so true.

957
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 12: And many times.

958
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 11: People they don't take into consideration what others might be

959
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 11: going through. You know, they're worried about what's impacting their life,

960
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 11: and they don't realize that they're next door neighbor, or

961
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Speaker 11: maybe two doors down, or could even be the next

962
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Speaker 11: day over.

963
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: They're dealing with.

964
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Speaker 11: Even worse conditions or even more complex problems. You know,

965
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Speaker 11: we look at health and safety related stress. I mean,

966
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 11: so many people today can't even afford to get health insurance,

967
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 11: So how do they go get the help that they

968
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 11: need when they are feeling stressed, when they are feeling depressed,

969
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 11: when they have the anxiety that's going on, and they

970
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 11: don't know where to go or who to even turn to,

971
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 11: if you know. And so a lot of the times

972
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 11: it's like trying to just have just one little conversation

973
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 11: with someone to just ask the question, how are you,

974
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 11: how are you doing today, and to really pay attention

975
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 11: to kind of what their body language is saying as

976
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 11: well as just what their words are, because that's how

977
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 11: we really truly identify, you know, who might be challenged,

978
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 11: who might be having some issues that we can really

979
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 11: help them with or at least give them an avenue

980
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 11: to talk right.

981
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Speaker 1: Right, encourage and maybe encourage the seam to see somebody

982
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: that professionally can help them. New Mexico, West Virgini, Arkansas, Nevada, Oklahoma, Oregon, Mississippi,

983
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: and Alabama around out the top ten. A lot of

984
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: those are poor states that don't have thriving economies. Alabama,

985
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: Mississippi certainly, and even a place like Arkansas, which is

986
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 1: a very beautiful state. I live in Oklahoma, a beautiful state,

987
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: but it's different for all people. Now here's a list

988
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: of the least stressed out states, and you would almost say, well, yeah,

989
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 1: I guess I mean South Dakota, New Hampshire, Vermont, Idaho.

990
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: These are states that have beautiful topography and a lot

991
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: of things going on where you can maybe leave some

992
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: of that stressful life behind. But Massachusetts is forty second

993
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: least stressful state in America. I don't know if you've

994
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: ever been to Massachusetts, but you have to take out

995
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: a second loan just to visit that place for a weekend.

996
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: Their taxes are enormous up there. So I guess what

997
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm taking away from these lists is it really depends

998
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: on the person, not necessarily the state. These states just

999
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: might have more of those stressed out folks walking around,

1000
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: but by and large, it's the person, is it not.

1001
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 11: That's absolutely right. I mean, it's not about having a

1002
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 11: perfect life at all. It's really about creating healthy ways

1003
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 11: to respond to real life, to what's really going on

1004
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 11: around in any of the states. You know, how do

1005
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 11: we become more intentional, more grounded, and more aware of

1006
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 11: not just what we need, but what others might need

1007
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 11: at all as well, and just remembering that our well

1008
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 11: being matters. I will give advice all the time to

1009
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 11: individuals that, you know, some of the best ways to

1010
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 11: just clear your mind and to be grateful for what

1011
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 11: you have is maybe just to get away from life

1012
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 11: for a minute five minutes, go outside, take a walk,

1013
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 11: let the sun hit you in the face, just kind

1014
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 11: of breathe in and you know, identify.

1015
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 2: What are you grateful for in life?

1016
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 11: Just kind of provide some calm and clarity to those

1017
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 11: individuals to really help them focus on what they have

1018
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 11: to be thankful for versus what am.

1019
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 2: I missing out on.

1020
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 11: It's really just putting that, you know, kind of mindfulness,

1021
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 11: having a better mindset to really just be able to

1022
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 11: come to you know, a less stressful environment kind of

1023
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 11: reduce the anxiety a little bit. Mindfulness meditation is especially

1024
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 11: powerful for that because even just a few minutes can

1025
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 11: help just provide some clarity and give you some gratitude,

1026
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 11: peace and just inner steadiness. But individuals in each of

1027
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 11: these states, whether they're in the worst or whether they're

1028
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 11: in the least, some of them have figured out how

1029
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 11: They've figured out how to support someone else, how to

1030
00:57:58,320 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 11: connect or reconnect.

1031
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: Uh, doctor Rubin, I don't think we hear this all

1032
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: the time, if you go for a yearly wellness check

1033
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: with a doctor, or if you're even just talking to

1034
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: anyone else or watching perhaps an advice show or listening

1035
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: to it. Stress does so many different things to the body.

1036
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: It is a problem, certainly of the mind, but it

1037
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 1: also affects how the body operates, the heart, the gi track,

1038
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: everything else that keeps you alive. And if you don't

1039
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: deal with it, chances are you're not going to live

1040
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: a healthy life, and you may live a shorter life

1041
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: then you should. And I just I just don't understand

1042
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: why we don't pay more attention we as a society

1043
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: pay more attention what that does to us as much

1044
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: as we pay to what other physical maladies that we

1045
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: might have, those physical maladies may be completely drawn to

1046
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: the stressors in life and our inability to deal with them.

1047
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: This is it's so important on a number of different levels.

1048
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: It really is. Yeah.

1049
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 11: One, you know, most people they don't realize it. They

1050
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 11: don't think about it. You know, they're like, oh, it's

1051
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 11: just I had.

1052
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: A bad moment at work.

1053
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 11: That's why my heart's racing, or that's why I have

1054
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 11: this pain in my chest, and they just move on

1055
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 11: as if life is just normal, right, and they blame

1056
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 11: it on the stress or they'll blame it on a

1057
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 11: bad meeting at work or the fact that, you know,

1058
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 11: something happened that took.

1059
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 2: Them by surprise.

1060
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 11: And in reality, it is the fact that they are

1061
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 11: so stressed their system just can't manage anymore. And it's

1062
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 11: how they're trying to your systems, trying to like speak out,

1063
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 11: trying to like yell at you to hey, go talk

1064
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 11: to someone.

1065
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 2: You know, they they.

1066
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 11: Start getting aches and pains and their joints and they think,

1067
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 11: like this, god, arthritis, you know, that's all it is.

1068
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 11: I don't I'll just go take some mydu profence, right, Yeah, we.

1069
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: Want quick fextions. No, we want quick fixes. Take a pill,

1070
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: everything will be better. It's just set for whatever reason.

1071
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: I think we tend to think that's the reason why

1072
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: you are the author of the book or one of

1073
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: the authors or contributor to the book. You can overcome anything.

1074
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: I just thought, if that book was a bestseller in Nashville,

1075
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: you put the country music business out of business. Right,

1076
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: country music is my pickup truck went bad, my dog died,

1077
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: and my wife left me. So if you can overcome

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Speaker 1: all of those things, read this book, you might put

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Speaker 1: the entire music business at a business.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, And that is a whole series. So Caesar Espinino

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Speaker 11: is the author, the main author of that book. Right now,

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Speaker 11: we have fifteen different volumes. Each one is on something

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Speaker 11: a little bit different, and every author that has contributed

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Speaker 11: is sharing a life story that has been a life

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Speaker 11: changing for them or for someone else, or just actually

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Speaker 11: just something that we know we can contribute to others.

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Speaker 11: I've been intent of books that his whole series is

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Speaker 11: Amazon of Amazon bestsellers, but it is definitely one to

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Speaker 11: go yet because I mean just some of the titles

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Speaker 11: that we have is you can overcome anything.

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Speaker 12: When you refuse to give up.

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Speaker 11: When you have a positive mindset, when you have courage,

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Speaker 11: when you have forgiveness with awareness. I mean, those are

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Speaker 11: just a few of the titles that he has with

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Speaker 11: the book, but it's ten different authors, at least ten.

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Speaker 11: Sometimes there's except to fifteen. But they are all about

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Speaker 11: how different individuals dealt with a situation in life that

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Speaker 11: was stressful, was you know, And we're just intentional with

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Speaker 11: giving back and hoping that if someone takes away just

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Speaker 11: one nugget that changes their life, then we've achieved one

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Speaker 11: of our goals we've set out to do.

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Speaker 1: Amen. She is doctor Carolyn Rubin. You can find her

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Speaker 1: at Carolyn Mmeruben Carolynmmeruben dot com and Carolyn is spelled

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Speaker 1: c a r o l y N. Good stuff. Doctor.

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Speaker 1: We'll work on Kentucky here, Ohio must be in the

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Speaker 1: middle of this pack. So for now at least we're

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Speaker 1: we're holding steady. But we'll get to work on Kentucky

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Speaker 1: and report the progress back to you. How about that?

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Speaker 11: That would be fabulous.

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Speaker 8: I would love to hear it all right, Thanks for

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Speaker 8: your time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Look forward to start.

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Speaker 1: Thinking you bet Kentucky Number two on the most stressed

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Speaker 1: full list in the United States. Louisiana number one, Kentucky two,

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Speaker 1: New Mexico three. They say Kentucky gets dragged down because

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Speaker 1: of poor mental health and depression, unemployment, bankruptcy, and family strain.

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Speaker 1: Come on Commonwealth with a program. It's one fifty three

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Speaker 1: on this Saturday afternoon. Much more to come. We have

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Speaker 1: Reds Baseball and the Inside Pitch at three ten today.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned for that. Stay tuned to see if the

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Speaker 1: Reds can get back to five hundred. Stay tuned to

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Speaker 1: see if you can get home out of the game

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Speaker 1: without getting caught up in a brawl. On news Radio

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 10: Everybody on news Radio seven hundred wl W as we

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Speaker 10: press on to Reds.

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Speaker 1: Baseball stand by. More is to come bottom of the hour.

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Speaker 1: How laughter is the best thing? I mean, really, it

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Speaker 1: cures everything. I'm not saying that because you got to

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Speaker 1: go see a comedy show at the Funnybone or anything

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Speaker 1: like that, but just the ability to laugh changes everything

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Speaker 1: in your life. And we have tangible proof of all

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Speaker 1: of that coming up. So anyway, that's at two thirty six.

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Speaker 1: Inside Pitch is coming up at three ten. There are

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Speaker 1: very few people that know all about the presidency of

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Speaker 1: the United States than by next guest. In fact, doctor

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Speaker 1: Frank Sorrentino has written books about it. He's written a

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Speaker 1: very good book about it. We'll get into that in

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Speaker 1: just a second. But I wanted him to join me

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Speaker 1: today because he understands the relevance of what goes on

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Speaker 1: in our lives and how we just keep putting our

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Speaker 1: faith in the wrong people. We keep thinking that when

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Speaker 1: we elect people and we send them to Washington, DC,

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Speaker 1: that they will solve all of our problems, and they

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Speaker 1: don't quite Frankly, they don't want to solve anyone's problem.

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Speaker 1: I've often said this, and I'll say it again. A

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Speaker 1: politician wants three things. No matter what offense it is,

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Speaker 1: whether it's local, national, it doesn't matter. It wants the

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Speaker 1: politician wants three things. One, the politician wants your money,

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Speaker 1: because without your money, the politician can't get elected. So

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Speaker 1: unless he has your money or she has your money,

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Speaker 1: he's not going to get elected. Two, the politician obviously

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01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: wants your vote. That's the most important thing, and money

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01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: buys votes, a lot of money. You see a lot

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01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: of ads on TV for this politician that politician. Maybe

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01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: the best politician simply doesn't have enough money and therefore

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Speaker 1: can't get on TV, can't advertise on radio, and doesn't

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Speaker 1: get elected. So a politician wants your money, wants your vote.

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Speaker 1: And the third thing a politician wants more than anything

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Speaker 1: else is to never, as in ever put his or

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Speaker 1: her name next to any piece of legislation that could

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Speaker 1: come back and haunt them. In step number one getting

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Speaker 1: your money and step number two getting your vote. So

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Speaker 1: if you think placing faith in a politician and having

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Speaker 1: that politician go to Washington or city Hall or wherever

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Speaker 1: they may go, is going to solve your problems, it

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Speaker 1: is not. It is not. We don't send our best

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Speaker 1: and our brightest to elected office because our best and

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Speaker 1: brightest don't want to put up with what it takes

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Speaker 1: to get elected, groveling for your money and groveling for

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Speaker 1: your vote. But we keep doing it over and over

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Speaker 1: and over again. And it's self evident, I think right

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Speaker 1: now when you look at what's going on with the

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Speaker 1: DHS shutdown that was engineered by the Democrats. The Senate

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Speaker 1: bill had no funding for ice or the border patrol.

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Speaker 1: John Thune thought that was a good idea, Well, maybe

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Speaker 1: that's the only votes he could muster, and and so

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Speaker 1: it passed that way. The House last night said you

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Speaker 1: got to be kidding me. We're not going to vote

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Speaker 1: for that. And the House when it was sent back

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Speaker 1: from the Senate said no, no, no, no. And the Senate,

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Speaker 1: led by the GOP, is saying, well, you know, anything

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Speaker 1: that's in there that's funding for ice, anything that's in

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Speaker 1: there and funding for the border patrol, we can't, we can't,

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Speaker 1: we can't pass that. And of course Thune won't denuke

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Speaker 1: the filibuster. But even if he did, he wasn't going

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Speaker 1: to get Murkowski from Alaska, Collins from Maine. You definitely

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Speaker 1: wasn't going to get McConnell, and he wasn't going to

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Speaker 1: get Tillos from North Carolina. So he might even have

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Speaker 1: a majority in his own party. And I think the

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Speaker 1: overwhelming number of people who voted in November of twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four voted for exactly what the people we sent

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Speaker 1: to Washington aren't doing. Standing by the way, in is

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Speaker 1: doctor Frank Sorrentino. He's got a brand new book that's

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Speaker 1: coming out. We'll get into that, but for now, let's

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Speaker 1: welcome him. Into seven hundred w welw and doctor Sorrentino,

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Speaker 1: how are you on this glorious Saturday.

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Speaker 13: I'm doing great. And how are you again?

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Speaker 1: Well, we're out here in God's country, doctor. You know

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Speaker 1: that out here in the golden buckle of the Bible belt,

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Speaker 1: God fearing people in this area of the country, Doc,

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Speaker 1: hard working. All they want is a fair shake. They

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Speaker 1: all often get a fair shake from the people that

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Speaker 1: are at Washington, DC. And but we're doing okay, we're

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Speaker 1: mustering along.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you about a couple of things. This

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Speaker 1: DHS funding bill that has been the reason for this

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Speaker 1: government down, this latest government shutdown. It would appear to

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Speaker 1: the uninitiated, or to those of us that aren't as

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Speaker 1: politically astute as you, that John Thune, who is the

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Speaker 1: Senate majority leader, that John Thune cave to the Democrats.

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Speaker 1: Is that a fair and accurate statement.

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Speaker 13: I think it's a compromise.

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Speaker 14: But I think he did cave in that future funding

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Speaker 14: is still up in the air. He didn't do what

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Speaker 14: Trump wanted, and that Trump was willing to fund.

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Speaker 13: You know, the TSA.

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Speaker 14: Directly, which might have created some serious legal issues. But

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Speaker 14: I think that threat allowed both Thun and Schumer to

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Speaker 14: reach a compromise, but they did make serious concessions to

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Speaker 14: the Democrats.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at ice funding, which is its current It runs

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Speaker 1: out here eventually. But they've kicked basically kicked the can

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Speaker 1: down the road. Now, who knows what happens when the

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Speaker 1: House gets their hands all over this, we'll see. But

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Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is they've kicked that down

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Speaker 1: the road. Thune can't get the Save Act pass, he

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Speaker 1: can't muster his own caucus. He refuses to invoke the filibuster.

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Speaker 1: So John Thune looks about as ineffective as Mitch McConnell,

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Speaker 1: who was fairly ineffective. And it seems to be the

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Speaker 1: uniparty all over again? Doctor, Is it the uniparty all

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Speaker 1: over again?

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Speaker 13: To a large degree, it is.

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Speaker 14: I remember Thune was the protege of Mitch McConnell, and

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Speaker 14: that's why he was second in command during McConnell's stay,

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Speaker 14: and then he takes over. He's an individual who basically

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Speaker 14: goes along with the fundamentals of the consensus, the leads

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Speaker 14: of big money, and does not want to upset the

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Speaker 14: apple pot.

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Speaker 13: He's not a ma the Republican.

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Speaker 1: No, he's not. I mean, you could look at John

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Speaker 1: Thune and you could say, initially, is this guy a

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Speaker 1: Republican or a Democrat? Now he's a conservative. I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's any question about that. But again, these are

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Speaker 1: the kinds of things that drive people in this area

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Speaker 1: of the country, and I'm sure most area is crazy.

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Speaker 1: We elect these people to go to Washington, DC to

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Speaker 1: initiate change, and change never comes. It's always the same

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Speaker 1: old sable and you could probably understand why the electric

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Speaker 1: gets upset with that. Right.

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Speaker 14: Absolutely, he's not an agent of change. He's not willing

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Speaker 14: to transform the American system, which I think has become

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Speaker 14: corrupted by what you said is the uniparty. Both of

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Speaker 14: the major parties have the same source of funding for

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Speaker 14: the most part, and there is a consensus.

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Speaker 13: On what they want.

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Speaker 14: And John Thune is not the man who's going to upset.

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Speaker 13: That apple part.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, half the world away, we have the conflict that's

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Speaker 1: going on between Iran and the United States, and there

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Speaker 1: are a boatload of marines that are about to arrive

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Speaker 1: on the scene there. The United States is saying and

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Speaker 1: I believe them, I believe the military, believe the Pentagon

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Speaker 1: when they say they basically bombed everything that Iran's got

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Speaker 1: except carg Island. And although these missile launchers pop up,

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Speaker 1: and the only time you can actually bomb a missile

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Speaker 1: launcher it's when it's already engaged to launch a missile.

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Speaker 1: But nevertheless, that is not something that looks like it's

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Speaker 1: going to end this week, next week, or in a

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Speaker 1: few weeks. Is this part of Donald Trump's legacy? And

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Speaker 1: if it is, how much? Because you have armed conflict

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Speaker 1: half a world away. He didn't want that. And it's

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Speaker 1: affecting the economy, which right now is literally just not

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Speaker 1: even chugging along. It's kind of like puke it all

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Speaker 1: over the place, with the price of oil and where

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Speaker 1: the market is going and things like that. I think,

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Speaker 1: in a nutshell, this is Donald Trump's legacy that's at stake,

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Speaker 1: and if he doesn't get it fixed, it's not going

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Speaker 1: to be a pretty legacy.

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Speaker 13: Would you agree, yes.

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Speaker 14: I mean, sometimes when you have advisors, they tell you

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Speaker 14: that this is the perfect plan. It can be contained,

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01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 14: But kinetic warfare cannot be contained. When you start killing

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Speaker 14: people destroying infrastructure, there are angry people and they could

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Speaker 14: wait and see how.

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Speaker 13: To engage in revenge.

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01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 14: Repercussions, spleeper cells, terrorist activity.

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Speaker 13: This thing could drag on for a lot longer.

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Speaker 14: I think he wants to make a deal, but I'm

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Speaker 14: not so sure Israel is going to do everything.

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Speaker 13: That he wants.

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Speaker 14: Certainly, the parrot is that will keep the oil flowing.

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Speaker 14: We won't destroy the oil infrastructure, and that's critical. He

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Speaker 14: won't destroy the grid, electrical grid and all those things

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Speaker 14: which are necessary for a successful Iran. But right now

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Speaker 14: someone has to step up. But who wants to step up?

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Speaker 13: You know?

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Speaker 14: Everybody likes to think that there's all this opposition to

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Speaker 14: the religious state, and there is, but there are people

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Speaker 14: who are afraid, and the people who are most likely

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Speaker 14: to be in charge have benefited from that theocracy. And

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Speaker 14: so this thing doesn't resolve itself quickly. It could lead

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Speaker 14: with the straight of hoo moves trickling.

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Speaker 13: Oil out with the price of oil very high.

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Speaker 14: And Trunk's basic economic message was drill, baby, drill, which

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Speaker 14: would reduce the price of oil. And what happens is

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Speaker 14: if the price of oil is very high, then the

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Speaker 14: whole economic revitalization reindustrialization stalled, and it could stare for

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Speaker 14: a while, and it it stores for a while the

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Speaker 14: twenty six elections are deeply in jeopardy.

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Speaker 1: And this is not a phenomenon just too the presidency

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Speaker 1: of Donald Trump. I'm old enough to remember Vietnam and

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Speaker 1: Lyndon Johnson. Lindon Johnson did great things from a societal standpoint.

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Speaker 1: It was great, great achievements here domestically, but he got

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Speaker 1: bogged down in Vietnam and it completely overshadowed what was

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Speaker 1: going on domestically here. It enveloped him so much though

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't run for a second term. Bush forty three

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Speaker 1: the same thing. Bush forty three got bogged down in Iraq,

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Speaker 1: and so it really hurt the economy, and by the

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Speaker 1: time he left office, his popularity in this country was minimal.

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Speaker 1: I think it was twenty eight twenty seven percent. Trump

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01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 1: is a smart guy. He has to be cognizant of

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01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: those things. So what do you think is his endgame

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01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,600
Speaker 1: with all of this Ron settle that so you're not

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Speaker 1: dealing with it again in eighteen or twenty four months,

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Speaker 1: and then get the economy back on his feet. Wlliames

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01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 1: oil will come back down and the market will shoot

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Speaker 1: back up. I'd like to believe it's going to be

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Speaker 1: that easy, but he's got to get this thing figured

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01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: out in a hurry, doesn't he.

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Speaker 14: He's going to have to make some very decisive decisions,

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Speaker 14: and I think the decision is not to allow for

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Speaker 14: a total regime change. You're going to have to make

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Speaker 14: a deal with the people who are there. It'll be

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Speaker 14: a compromise deal, but you're not going to be putting

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Speaker 14: in let's say, pro democracy, pro Western people in Iran.

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Speaker 13: And that's the deal that I don't think he necessarily

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01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 13: wanted it.

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Speaker 14: At the beginning, but I agree with you Iraq was

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01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 14: the military had suggested that this could be a clean deal.

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Speaker 14: The CIA in the bay of things, this is going

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01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:54,959
Speaker 14: to be done. Don't worry about it's done.

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Speaker 13: You know. Vietnam, of course.

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Speaker 14: We know, is such an overt disaster in terms of

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Speaker 14: the number people died, ending up basically surrendering, not officially,

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01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 14: but they facto. So I think that to some degree

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Speaker 14: he was persuaded, somewhat by Israel, somewhat by his own

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Speaker 14: age that this is a clean strike and his motors

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Speaker 14: Operende is a maximum force without troops on the ground.

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Speaker 14: But how do you control the Straight of Hormuz? How

1352
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 14: do you control Paul Ireland without.

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01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 13: People on the ground.

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Speaker 14: That's the great theory of air power. Airpower hasn't necessarily

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01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 14: won any wars. They can be major contributors, but to

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01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 14: win you have to actually control the assets on the

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01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:52,839
Speaker 14: ground and the longs. You don't do that, you're subject

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Speaker 14: to all kinds of terroristic guerrilla warfare which could drag

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Speaker 14: on for a long period of time, keep the price

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Speaker 14: of oil high and leading to the seat.

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Speaker 1: In twenty six we're chatting with doctor Frank Sorrentino. He

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Speaker 1: is the author of the book Presidential Power in the

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01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 1: American Political System. It's been out for a while now,

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01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 1: but it is a great read and it gives at

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01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: least the gay to me, great understanding as to what

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Speaker 1: is transpiring almost on a constant basis with our presidencies.

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Speaker 1: You're working on a new book and it's investigating how

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Speaker 1: the CIA, NSA, and the FBI are involved in domestic

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01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 1: politics and its various implications. The one gift that Joe

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01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: Biden gave to the American people was not only dropping

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Speaker 1: out of the presidential race, but also a complete distrust

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Speaker 1: in places like the CIA, the NSA, and the FBI.

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01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 1: James Comy and Clapper and that entire group Brennan, John Brennan,

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Speaker 1: that whole group, Jake Sullivan. Nobody trusts these organizations anymore

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01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: that they will do the business of the American people,

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Speaker 1: which is keeping the American people foreign and domestically. This

1377
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 1: is a large cleanup effort that the Trump administration is doing.

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Speaker 1: And my guess is, and please correct me if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 1: your new book is probably going to unveil a lot

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Speaker 1: of what's gone on there recently, Am I right?

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Speaker 13: Oh? For sure?

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Speaker 14: And also the historical development of it, starting from World

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Speaker 14: War II to the President, the CIA, the FBI, NSA

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01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 14: have been deeply involved in American politics. The key element

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01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 14: that I like, conceptual element that I like to bring

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Speaker 14: is these organizations are supported by certain interest groups, and

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01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 14: their interest groups are very much opposed to sometimes the

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01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 14: President's agenda, whichever political party they may be, and that

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Speaker 14: we like to call it the deep stay, we can

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Speaker 14: call it the separate govern Man.

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Speaker 13: But what it is is a group.

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Speaker 14: Of interest schools that are pursuing their own interests, and

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Speaker 14: his own interest sometimes is counterproductive to the interest of

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Speaker 14: what you were referring to as the decent people of America.

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Speaker 1: Well, the FBI was a reign of terror under her

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01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 1: Jaegar Hoover. There was no question about that. That guy

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Speaker 1: just excelled at keeping dossier's on everybody, whether they were

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01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 1: an enemy or not. He had his nose into everything.

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Speaker 1: And of course the CIA, even if you are not

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01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 1: of that particular era, when it had the Bay of

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01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 1: Pigs invasion in Cuba, they had their hands all over that.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, it's not to run these agencies down, doctor,

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01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you don't completely. But what the FBI

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01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 1: and the CIA, and for that matter, the Nessay were

1405
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 1: built to do are not always executed that way. They're used,

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01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 1: as you just alluded to political purposes, is either their

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01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 1: own or the ones that they have an ideological alliance with.

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01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 1: And I think that's where the American people really have

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01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 1: a problem with these groups. They get us involved in

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01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 1: things they shouldn't. They stick their nose in presidential elections

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01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 1: and they shouldn't. All the while, when things really get hairy,

1412
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 1: and when things really get rough, like on nine to eleven,

1413
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: you can't find any of these guys with a search warrant.

1414
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 1: So I'm just wondering how deep you go into the

1415
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,560
Speaker 1: dysfunction between all three of those agencies.

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Speaker 14: That is my mission is to show how people of

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01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 14: good faith. There are a lot of people good faith

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01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 14: in these organizations and they believe in the anti communists

1419
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 14: and then later on the anti terrorist ideology philosophy. But

1420
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 14: when you have that ideology of philosophy, sometimes there's only

1421
01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 14: one goal and any means necessary to achieve that goal.

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Speaker 13: And that's why I call this, uh, the betrayal of democracy.

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01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 14: And it's not always done with bad intentions. Sometimes, you know,

1424
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 14: the road to hell is paved with good intentions. So

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01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 14: I think this is a story that needs to be told,

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01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 14: and it has so many chapters, and of course one

1427
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 14: of the big chapters may be the Kennedy assassination and

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01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 14: all the nuances that are involved with that.

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01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 1: So, doctor, what is the uh what's the title of

1431
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: the book? And when is it out?

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01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 14: Well, I'm still working on the details and the editing.

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Speaker 14: It's called the Betrayal of Democracy, uh, the CIA's Path

1434
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Speaker 14: to Power.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, hopefully sooner than later, because I really enjoyed,

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01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:52,719
Speaker 1: as you will know, and I've told you many times,

1437
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:57,480
Speaker 1: presidential power and the American political system, Doctor Frank M. Sortino,

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01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: it's always great to have you on the program. You

1439
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 1: stay well. Yours is a voice we need to hear,

1440
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 1: and we'll visit next time. Thanks.

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01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 13: It's a joy to me on your show.

1442
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 1: Thank you. I'll take that any day of the week.

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01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 1: It is two twenty six on this Saturday afternoon that

1444
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 1: you and me as it should be on seven hundred WLW.

1445
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 1: It's easy to use two two news Radio, seven hundred

1446
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 1: Wulwyes chatting with my next guest. We're talking about laughing

1447
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 1: and how it just heals a lot of things. In fact,

1448
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: there was a study done a couple of years ago

1449
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: that just daily laughter can reduce your chorosol levels by

1450
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 1: almost thirty three percent. I didn't know this until I

1451
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 1: read it. Stephanie Johnson is a psychologist. She didn't know

1452
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 1: about it until she read it. But whenever I want

1453
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: to laugh, I asked Stephanie if it's okay to come

1454
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 1: on the show because she makes things a lot brighter.

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01:22:54,960 --> 01:23:00,080
Speaker 1: How has laughter benefited your mental health? Doctor, Stephanie, how

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01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 1: are you on this glorious Saturday.

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01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 12: I'm good, jin thank you for having me. It's an

1458
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 12: honor to be here.

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01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: Well, I'm wonderful. Now you know someone or know of

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01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 1: people that enjoy the benefits of laughter. You're a psychologist,

1461
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 1: so my guess is you've never done stand up comedy

1462
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 1: in your life, but things make you laugh. And I'm

1463
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,440
Speaker 1: just wondering what makes doctor Johnson laugh.

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01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 12: Everything? And yes, I have been told I could actually

1465
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 12: be a stand up comic.

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01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: Great.

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01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 12: I actually I actually use humor quite a bit in

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01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 12: my practice with my clients. It's very healed.

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01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 1: But in all sincerity, you don't have to be a

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01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: stand up comedian nor appreciate it to enjoy laughter. Laughter

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Speaker 1: comes in many different ways I've found in life. It

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01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 1: could come from that, could come from a joke somebody tells,

1473
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 1: but sometimes it's just something that's cute or funny, that's

1474
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 1: interesting that happens and you look at it and you

1475
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 1: smile and say, hey, maybe this is why we're all living.

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01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to come from the latest on stage comic,

1477
01:23:58,040 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 1: does it.

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01:23:59,680 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 11: No.

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01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 12: Have you ever seen those toys that do that fake laugh.

1480
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 12: It's like those laughing machines. They actually will make you laugh.

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01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:10,679
Speaker 12: They will laugh. So, yeah, we don't need it from

1482
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 12: a stand up comedian. We can find it pretty much

1483
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 12: in our day to day everywhere.

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01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 1: So someone laughing can actually make you laugh, I guess is.

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01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,520
Speaker 13: What you're saying exactly.

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01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:27,719
Speaker 12: There's what's called mirror nerons. We actually will mimic those

1487
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 12: around us. So if you see somebody laughing, you're going

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01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 12: to catch yourself actually laughing. Even if it's a toy

1489
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 12: in the toy aisle, it will actually make you.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty interesting. I know people that haven't laughed in

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01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 1: their lives, I think, I mean, there's some pretty dour

1492
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 1: people out there, as you well know, doctor, But unfortunately,

1493
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 1: there is very solid evidence that backs up what you're

1494
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 1: saying about laughing and making your life better. Now I'm

1495
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 1: just looking here. I don't know anything. That's called extensive reviews.

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01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 1: It says the twenty five analysis published in Extensive Reviews,

1497
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 1: laughter interventions reduce corsol levels by almost thirty two percent. Now,

1498
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 1: this was a fairly significant study. There were over three

1499
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 1: hundred people. But what does reducing cortisol levels physically do

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Speaker 1: for the body.

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01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 12: It actually helps the body switch from being in fight

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Speaker 12: fight a freeze to our relaxation nervous system. There's there's

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01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 12: been so much research, I mean for centuries just on

1504
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 12: laughter and humor. Humor is so strongly tied to our

1505
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 12: ability to be resilient. Ooh, sorry, it's dry out here.

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01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 12: Let's see.

1507
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 1: Well that was funny. Okay, I laughed at that. That

1508
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: was funny. You got a little some caught in your throat.

1509
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:49,759
Speaker 1: I'm smiling.

1510
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah.

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01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 1: But I don't what I what I don't understand. I mean,

1512
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 1: I'm the next the next doctor that I interview. I

1513
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 1: will always ask the same thing about cortisol, and I

1514
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 1: understand kind of what it does. I don't understand why

1515
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 1: the body makes it. And you're saying fight or flight. Okay,

1516
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 1: so you feel like you're maybe challenged, your existence is challenged,

1517
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 1: and and that's what causes corrasol to raise. But what

1518
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 1: is corrosol?

1519
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 12: Cornosol is actually our stress hormone, and it isn't It

1520
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 12: isn't a bad thing. We need it. So let's say,

1521
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:36,639
Speaker 12: if a bearer walked into your studio, you're gonna want

1522
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 12: cortosol because cortisol is actually going to help you do

1523
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 12: what you have to do to survive. It's actually a

1524
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 12: survival mechanism that actually helps us see hopefully live to

1525
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 12: see another day. What makes it bad is when it's

1526
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:55,440
Speaker 12: prolonged and that's where it can actually cause serious detriments

1527
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 12: mentally and physically to our to our bodies.

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01:26:58,439 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 2: What if?

1529
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 1: What if? What if a snake walks into my studio?

1530
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 1: Because we've got a lot of snakes that work here, man,

1531
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 1: that want my job. We got a lot of snakes

1532
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: here that want my job. Is that fight or flight

1533
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 1: as well?

1534
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 12: Yes, that is, and that was definitely.

1535
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 1: But I guess what you're saying is the body can't

1536
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 1: help itself because it's triggered by these things. The bear

1537
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 1: is a great example. But then how does cortisol get reduced?

1538
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:30,679
Speaker 1: Because if it always stays at a very high level,

1539
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 1: obviously that leads to more irritation inside the body, and

1540
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 1: then that leads to other physical maladies. So okay, so

1541
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 1: I mean I get the bear walking into the studio,

1542
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 1: but then at some point it's got to come down.

1543
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: Laughter can't be the only way, but it certainly will help.

1544
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:45,600
Speaker 11: You.

1545
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 1: See what I'm saying here, I'm trying to figure out

1546
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 1: how to get rid of it when I have it.

1547
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,559
Speaker 12: Well, there are lots of different ways. And again, we

1548
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 12: have three stress response. We have what's called the acute

1549
01:27:56,600 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 12: stress response. So the bear, right, so acute stress our

1550
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 12: cortosol spike to help us live to see another day.

1551
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,719
Speaker 12: Then we have the recovery phase. The recovery phase usually

1552
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 12: takes about twenty four to forty eight hours for our

1553
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 12: cortosol to go back to balance, to go back to

1554
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 12: HOMEO spaces.

1555
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 1: Wow.

1556
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 12: If it doesn't go down, then we're stuck in this

1557
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 12: exhausted thase. So it really helps to know. And it's

1558
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 12: a really good question you asked, like, how besides laugh

1559
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 12: or how else can I actually redeat my cortosol. One

1560
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 12: is definitely watching what you eat. You know, high vitamin

1561
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 12: C eating, you know, watermelon and oranges and all that

1562
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 12: really helps cut cortosol. But if we're eating a lot

1563
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 12: of processed foods and dunk and all that, it's actually

1564
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 12: going to prolong that. Uh, stay where your cortisols thing bike.

1565
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 1: Oh, I just pushed aside. I just pushed aside some

1566
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 1: M and M as I was eating during this. Done

1567
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:04,720
Speaker 1: with those for the moment. But there's a lot of

1568
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that are wrong with this world,

1569
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:08,719
Speaker 1: aren't there. I mean, there are a lot of things

1570
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:10,720
Speaker 1: that if you doom scrolled or if you watch a

1571
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 1: lot of cable television news. You wonder how we're all

1572
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 1: still alive at this point, But I do know that

1573
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 1: there are some people walking around that have serious, uh

1574
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 1: medical issues, including depression. And somebody is dealing with depression.

1575
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 1: First of all, you should be seeking medical help. But

1576
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 1: second of all, there is a almost like an ointment,

1577
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 1: almost like a topical cream called laughter that can that

1578
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 1: can help somebody through depression as they're getting treated for professionally.

1579
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 1: I've heard that from several people. Do you do you

1580
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 1: subscribe to that theory?

1581
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 12: I do. I actually prescribe homework that helps to work

1582
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 12: with the It's called the cognitive triad. So when somebody

1583
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 12: suffering from major depression, they tend to have a negative

1584
01:29:56,560 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 12: view of themselves, the world, and others and even the future.

1585
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 12: So they get stuck in that that negative loop, and

1586
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 12: they tend to only focus on the negative. So their

1587
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:12,679
Speaker 12: attention is flown immediately to whatever is negative because it's

1588
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 12: like a confirmation bias. Oh see that's negative, yees. So

1589
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:17,759
Speaker 12: I have every right to feel the way I feel.

1590
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 12: And so that's again why I will actually tell my

1591
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 12: clients minimal watching the news. You know, you watch it

1592
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 12: for fifteen minutes on Monday fifteen minutes on Friday, or

1593
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 12: even better, read it in writing, so you don't have

1594
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:37,799
Speaker 12: the melodrama and the noise and the music in the background.

1595
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 12: No negative movies. I only will tell I can tell

1596
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 12: them you can only watch comedy. That's it.

1597
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 14: No.

1598
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 12: And I have a lot of clients that have, you know,

1599
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 12: their sexual trauma survivors, and it's strange that there seems

1600
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:57,439
Speaker 12: to be this correlation where they all watch NCIS and

1601
01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 12: I'm like, h do you think that may confirm your

1602
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 12: brain and saying you're not safe and the world's not safe.

1603
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 12: So I make it to where they can't watch that,

1604
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:11,519
Speaker 12: they can only watch comedy. I mean, when I'm sick,

1605
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 12: it means the health benefits of laughter. The first thing

1606
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 12: I do if I'm sick, I go, I stay on

1607
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:23,559
Speaker 12: the sofa and I turn on Osmo's this Jump. It's

1608
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 12: got Bill Murray, it's got Chris Rock and it's I'm

1609
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 12: a huge like brain Nerd. I love the brain Matthew

1610
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 12: Nerd when it comes to that, so I like, you know,

1611
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 12: he takes a pill and it goes down the sofagage

1612
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 12: and he's like, have you ever seen it?

1613
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 1: I have? Yeah, it is it is hilarious. You could

1614
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,759
Speaker 1: you could make five hundred dollars immediately after this interview

1615
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:51,640
Speaker 1: with me. I'll just come in and lay down. Yeah,

1616
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 1: Doctor Johnson, this was fun. Thank you so much for

1617
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 1: your time and we appreciate it. Here stay well, we

1618
01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 1: need to hear your voice.

1619
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 12: Okay, thank you, Thank you so much for having your phone.

1620
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 1: No, well, we try to be here. We try to

1621
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 1: make you laugh, if not grin, just at certain points.

1622
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:11,480
Speaker 1: All right, stand by the inside pitch is on the horizon.

1623
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 1: Here on seven hundred W LW, meet Joe Mash.

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01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 5: Joe was this shy guy who meekly sold cheese from

1625
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:24,680
Speaker 5: a little street cart. Then he started listening to the

1626
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 5: morning show. He heard the latest news, weather, financial information,

1627
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 5: stimulating guest.

1628
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 4: And a little advice.

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01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 5: Joe was inspired and today he's the largest retailer of

1630
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 5: cheese gifts in the country.

1631
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 4: Joe Mash another Tom Brenneman success story. And when you

1632
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 4: think of cheese, think of me. Begin your own success

1633
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 4: story with Tom Brenneman.

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01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 10: Monday morning at five am on seven hundred WLW Ken Brew.

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Speaker 1: Here, my wife Pat and not