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Speaker 1: From the fish filled Midwest lakes to the deep woods

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Speaker 1: of the North upland prairies filled with pheasants, to the

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Speaker 1: whistling wings of duck ponds. This is Saturday Morning Fan Outdoors,

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Speaker 1: your show for hunting and fishing tips, topics and conversations.

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Speaker 1: You can also send us a question or opinion by

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Speaker 1: emailing us booth at kfean dot com. Here's your host,

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Speaker 1: the Fans, Captain Billy Hildegraham.

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Speaker 2: Fifty seconds after the hour of six a m. Good morning,

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Speaker 2: Fan Outdoors, faithful, Good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: It is a risk.

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Speaker 2: Saturday morning, but I'm lying to you.

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Speaker 3: It's cold. It's just it's sixteen degrees.

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Speaker 2: But I poked my head out the door and now

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Speaker 2: it's cold.

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Speaker 3: I figured that out.

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Speaker 2: It took me quite a while, but I have determined

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Speaker 2: first all that it's gold out and there's snow out

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Speaker 2: in the country. Doesn't season ends Sunday. My two boys

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Speaker 2: are out going to be along with my nephew, are

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Speaker 2: going to be tramping the fields behind on two three

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Speaker 2: four four dogs. Three yeah, four dogs, three four guys.

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Speaker 3: And a partridge in a pear tree.

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Speaker 2: It's totaling here in the background as that of my

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Speaker 2: very good friend and co host who is gracedous is

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Speaker 2: his presence this morning? Yeah, mister Bob Saint Pierre morning,

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Speaker 2: but good morning.

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Speaker 3: Will you be following those bird and your sons? Uh?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: I followed my own bird dog about a week ago

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Speaker 2: for the very last time this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It h man, it just kicked my hind Dad boy,

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Speaker 2: I was. I was trying to walk across from where

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Speaker 2: we opened, and because the field where we opened this

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Speaker 2: year was covered with turkey poop and it's stunk, and

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Speaker 2: I thought.

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Speaker 3: Oh, like fertilizer. Yes, it was like, that's a lot

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Speaker 3: of turkeys to the turkey. No, no, no, no, but

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Speaker 3: wild I had wild turkey. I got a response on

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Speaker 2: But anyway, okay, So we went across the road to

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Speaker 2: the wildlife area.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna, yeah, why wouldn't the birds be in there?

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Speaker 2: Never tracks along the edge of the field, but it

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Speaker 2: had been the field of bit plowed and blown over

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Speaker 2: with snow. Holy smoke, because I almost broke my ankles

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Speaker 2: about two or three times. Games dogs fired up his

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Speaker 2: she just hottered a pistol and they heading in and

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking, God, I gotta go, I gotta get in there.

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Speaker 3: I gotta get in there.

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Speaker 2: I walked across, and you broke your break through this

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Speaker 2: crusty snow. Oh yeah, I'm thinking I'm Bob Saint Pierre stuck. No,

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Speaker 2: so he turned around or get going.

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Speaker 3: I got about two hundred yards into it.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh, and I thought to you, old man, you're

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Speaker 2: not gonna get back.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have to crawl.

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Speaker 2: And I turned around. We got back to the car and.

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Speaker 3: Brie was she was ready to roll, but.

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Speaker 2: Then I decided, I'm this is it for me this year.

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Speaker 3: I went. Uh, I had the day off yesterday. I

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Speaker 3: went up north to Hinkley area. It's like I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: try to squeeze one more grouse hunt. That was a

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Speaker 3: fool's here. I let the dogs out. I did the same.

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Speaker 3: They climbed over the snowy after I found a place

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Speaker 3: to park, which is a challenge. Now, yeah, I found

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Speaker 3: they started tredging to it like I'm an idiot. I

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Speaker 3: hunted for about an hour, and uh, that was an

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Speaker 3: very well, I guess I wouldn't say very deep it

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Speaker 3: was probably I don't know, maybe a foot and a

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Speaker 3: half of snow, but it was deep enough. It's surprising.

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Speaker 3: It's hard work when it's that that level of snow.

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Speaker 3: I am slated to go pheasant hunting tomorrow out in

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Speaker 2: Mistake, is I've been told though, Chad was down there

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Speaker 2: a week or so ago. I don't know what they

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Speaker 2: I my boys told me that I should come up

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Speaker 2: it's easy walking down, it's easy, you know, it's easy

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Speaker 3: I just I don't know. I don't think. What tall

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 2: I used to be five nine. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: I am now. My pants are getting longer.

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Speaker 3: Both well, Chad's for sure over sex Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: what's what's Eric is too? He's about six Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: that's a little different dimensions than you and me. Do

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Speaker 2: I might be five seven five e. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's hard walking where there's eighteen inches, so it is

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Speaker 2: plus you know, Chad's got both of them the long legs, yep.

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Speaker 2: And Chad can literally pick me up and put me down.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just he's just the lights in it too.

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Speaker 2: I usually get even he knows that. So it's one

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Speaker 2: way or another. Hey, there's some things that are going on.

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Speaker 2: But we could look back maybe towards the end of

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Speaker 2: the show and some things. Just give it some thought,

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Speaker 2: some things that went on for both of us this

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Speaker 2: last year as we think back on twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: But I do know that Lake Reno has been just

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Speaker 2: on fire. Fishing around Alexandrew doing Alec and Glenwood just

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Speaker 2: a long time. I fished up for bass with a tournament,

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Speaker 2: I think we only had like four fish or not

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Speaker 2: very many large mall. But they've grown up since then

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Speaker 2: and the walleyes are plentiful and the panfish are just incredible. Well,

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Speaker 2: they're doing a study on Reno. They captured a couple

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Speaker 2: of fouls. They beat the DNAR, captured a couple thousand fish,

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Speaker 2: and they put tags on them, big ugly gotty tags,

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Speaker 2: but they're they're checking the fishing pressure and what pressure

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Speaker 2: does to fish and how they move around, because they

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Speaker 2: want to know Reno is such a fish producing and

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Speaker 3: Body of water. They want to know how and why.

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Speaker 2: Uclus there's a lot of anklers out there in the wintertime.

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Speaker 2: So if you catch one of those fish and think

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Speaker 2: that tells you what to do, you can keep it

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Speaker 2: if you want. They'd like you to release it because

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Speaker 2: they want to see where they're going to go. But

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Speaker 2: the only way they can tell is by fishing. Is

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Speaker 2: the radio tagged, so they can got radio. It's just

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Speaker 2: got a big plastic tag that they stuck in the

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Speaker 2: back of the fish. But if you do go out

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Speaker 2: there and fish and you catch some tagfish, you're welcome

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Speaker 2: to keep them if you want, but especially the panfish.

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Speaker 2: That's what they're curious about, sunfish, crappies. But if you

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Speaker 2: let them go, report the number and uh and then

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Speaker 2: let them know what it is, it'd.

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Speaker 3: Be interesting to see that data. You know, how far crappy,

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Speaker 3: for instance, moves within a lake. You think about when

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Speaker 3: we've ice fished. You know, they seem to come in

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Speaker 3: waves like they they're there and then they're gone for

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Speaker 3: an hour and then all of a sudden they are

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Speaker 3: they making a circuit or is it a different school

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Speaker 3: of fish? Do you have a do you have a theory?

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Speaker 2: I have a theory, but I have no idea. I

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Speaker 2: think it's a there. The fish have like a.

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Speaker 3: Track and a track that they follow, yeah, yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: A route, and they're they're looking for food and they're

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Speaker 2: just they're going to get food sitting there, so they're

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Speaker 2: just moving slowly through the water, and they may on

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Speaker 2: this track. You set up on the track, and eventually

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Speaker 2: they'll come through. You'll catch a few, and then they're gone,

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Speaker 2: and then quite a while later you'll catch them again,

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Speaker 2: and they're going and they're about the same size, give

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Speaker 2: or tape. But that's just my theory. I have nothing

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Speaker 3: You haven't done radio collared panfish of your own little

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Speaker 3: experiment just down on my tank, Eric kept a small

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Speaker 3: sample size. He kept catching all.

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Speaker 2: I could tell he was catching them because the handprints

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Speaker 2: they were embedded the fungus on the sides of these fishes.

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Speaker 3: I got him one of the shelby.

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Speaker 2: Tournaments years ago at boat Mint of Talka Boat Works,

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Speaker 2: they had a trout tank and Eric he was just

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Speaker 2: nailing the fish in the tank. And turns out he

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Speaker 2: wasn't being real fair about thanks. He had some bait

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Speaker 2: and he had his own line just kind of dangling

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Speaker 2: it over the side, and he was catching apple doesn't

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Speaker 2: fall far from the tree. I didn't get caught, so

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Speaker 2: it's different. I don't know if he did either. I

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Speaker 3: So you're you're.

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Speaker 2: Pheasant hunting, Well it's going to be done.

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Speaker 3: Are you going to any of these states hunt? I

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Speaker 3: am not. I'm going to call it quits. I was

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Speaker 3: I got a lot coming up with pheasant fast and

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Speaker 3: so I'm making the transition across country ski season. Oh boy,

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Speaker 3: put a camera on you. Yes, no falls so far.

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Speaker 3: I've just jinxed myself right now. But I've been out

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Speaker 3: a fair amount. It's been fun. Oh good. Most recent

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Speaker 3: storm has put many trails in better condition. Good yeah, good,

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Speaker 2: I'm I think once Eric can get his fish house

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Speaker 2: on the lake, I'm looking forward to doing a little

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Speaker 2: fish up too.

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Speaker 3: What lake he's gonna put. Is he going to put?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know if he's going up north, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to Trammel that far, but if he

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Speaker 2: goes to soccer Reno or one of the Alic lakes.

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Speaker 2: They were out yesterday with some kids, and I know

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Speaker 2: we have to take a break, but they were out

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Speaker 2: with some youngsters yesterday Yester afternoon, and they had there

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Speaker 2: was four kids that were, you know, probably ten, nine,

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Speaker 2: ten years old and Eric said, all I did I

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Speaker 2: didn't fish, dad, I didn't even draw wet a line.

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Speaker 3: I took fish off.

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Speaker 2: So he was on hooking fish and they were filling

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Speaker 2: a bucket and they weren't real.

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Speaker 3: Big, but they were.

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Speaker 2: They had a bunch of them, and I remember those days.

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Speaker 2: And they were going to have a fish fry last night,

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Speaker 2: a couple of families and they were all excited about

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Speaker 2: that because.

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Speaker 3: They caught the fish. Ye fun, and it is good time.

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Speaker 2: Where we're going to take our first pause and on

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Speaker 2: our return we'll take you all the way up to

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Speaker 2: Duluth and we are going to visit with mister Jared Houston,

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Speaker 2: a professional guide up there, and he sent me a

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Speaker 2: picture he was fishing in his one man house. The

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Speaker 2: ice looked good, and I wouldn't drive on it, but

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Speaker 2: it looked good for just walking and sitting. But we'll

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Speaker 2: find out what's going on in just a few minutes.

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Speaker 2: Don't touch the dial. You've got to fill your coffee

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Speaker 2: cup up. I tried to buy donuts and they're closed.

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Speaker 2: I'm zero for two times trying. Now, where'd you try?

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Speaker 2: Donut shop? Right up by home? They're closed. I told

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Speaker 3: You got a coffin fit. It's been coming use you. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Well, we're back with you after our abrupt stop cottage

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Speaker 3: it And you're right. I didn't. I didn't.

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Speaker 3: So cool.

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Speaker 2: Hey, our next guest is the person we've been trying

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Speaker 3: So cold in Duluth that the lines weren't connected. That

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Speaker 2: Good morning, sir.

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Speaker 5: Happy holidays, good morning. Sorry about the heart the technology thing, boys,

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Speaker 5: I was trying to do the standby for Brent. And

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Speaker 3: You got that, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, buddy, That's right, And it ain't that bad a

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Speaker 5: Know, fish and fishing man, it's it's been really really fun,

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Speaker 3: So how do you go about that, Jared?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you've got to prep yourself for so many

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Speaker 5: You know, it's that's a great question. A lot of

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Speaker 5: And right now we've been doing a lot of mixed

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Speaker 2: I think you'd never know. It was the operative word

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Speaker 5: So like yesterday, I'll give you a little quick too.

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Speaker 2: You're dealing with different personalities every every single day, and

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Speaker 5: You know. A wise man once told me, got to

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Speaker 2: Are and Superior your time on a Superior How was that?

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Speaker 5: We're we're starting to rolling like Superior. So the picture

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Speaker 5: She can be a devil, but she can be a

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Speaker 2: But yeah, what about the Saint Louis River? I know

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Speaker 5: So we've had some several trips out there. That fight's

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Speaker 5: evidence is the amount of ice actions seeing out there.

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00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 5: So we're sneaking out there still and we will continue

437
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 5: to do that through the early part of January here

438
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 5: and that will kind of taper off and we'll be

439
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 5: full blow on Lake Superior. But it's been a good bite.

440
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 5: I mean it's been We've had our years, but we're

441
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 5: still getting enough action to stay interested, mostly at dead

442
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 5: stick nearby, a jigging set up where we're you know,

443
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 5: using some hard body baits like a puppet minto or

444
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 5: a jigging wrap and track attracting attention for a fish

445
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,959
Speaker 5: to come in and hit the dead stick spen kind

446
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 5: of the potion for us. But yeah, that can change

447
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 5: by the minute too. So the Saint Louis River, the

448
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 5: migratory fish, just like Lake Superior. You got to find

449
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 5: out what they want, and you know that's that can

450
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 5: be a challenge sometimes, but the worth the effort with Superior.

451
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 2: Are you catching Andy as a what are you catching

452
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 2: on Superior?

453
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 5: Yeah? Good question. So this last trip two's New Year's Eve,

454
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 5: we were fish. We were over thirty feet of water

455
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 5: and you would you know, your instinct as a fisherman

456
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 5: would think, well, they got to get out to the bottom,

457
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 5: you know, that kind of a walleye. A lot of

458
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 5: people do that. But Lake Superior is a lot different.

459
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 5: So the fish we were catching with salmon and they're

460
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 5: right undernath the ice, so in over thirty feet of water.

461
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 5: I think I was in thirty four feet. The other

462
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 5: shacks were in twenty nine feet, and we were only

463
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 5: fifty yards apart. But those fish were coming right underneath

464
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 5: your feet. So your best zipping up all your windows

465
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,479
Speaker 5: and your doors and keeping it real dark in your

466
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 5: shelter and just looking down and site fishing them. And

467
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 5: when they come through, they come through in big school,

468
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 5: so you got to capitalize. If you see one salmon

469
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 5: or one hearing, there's a good chance that there's a

470
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 5: bunch of fish nearby. So just like a roaming school

471
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 5: of panfish, excuse me, when they come through, you better

472
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 5: capitalize on your opportunity.

473
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: So what do you fishing? What do you use to

474
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: catch him?

475
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 3: Jared?

476
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 5: So mostly a big wobbly spoon, you know, something that

477
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 5: has noise, flashy. My color of choice is gold always

478
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 5: is kind of universal color. But tip that with a

479
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 5: lake shiner head and just kind of you know, he

480
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 5: can't be wrong way you jig it. But the point

481
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 5: is you really do need to be jigging. Don't keep

482
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 5: it dead. You know. It's funny sometimes I get customers

483
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 5: out there and I got dad who knows everything about fishing,

484
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 5: but his four year old daughter outfishes him because she's

485
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 5: doing so, you know, not really caring, just flinging around

486
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 5: like a magic wand she's the one that catches more fish.

487
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 5: That's what it takes to catch the Charlton Lake Superior.

488
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 5: You gotta be kind stupid, which is good for me, right,

489
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 5: So because super guys catch a lot of fish.

490
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 2: That sounds like a lot of fun, Jared, it really is,

491
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 2: what are the sizes of fish you're catching?

492
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 5: So the salmon were catching Lake Superior are smaller than

493
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 5: you're gonna see out Lake Michigan. You know, they're fifteen

494
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 5: to eighteen inches. The herring are pretty big. I mean,

495
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 5: if you get into a hearing, they can they can

496
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 5: be up to you know, twenty two twenty four inches.

497
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 5: What's fun about Lake Superior is every fish you catch

498
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 5: out there is a different vibe. Man, It's it fights

499
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 5: harder than any fish I can think of anywhere, and

500
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 5: especially through an ice hole and you're looking through a

501
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 5: translucent window and underneath your feet. There's there's nothing like it.

502
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 5: It is absolutely, without about the best ice fishing experience

503
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 5: anybody can have is fish on the kitchen, goomy and

504
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 5: then it's eerie, it's mystic, it's spooky. You get out there,

505
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 5: but boy, when you get off there, you want to

506
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 5: go back. It is an absolute blessing to be able

507
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 5: to do it, you know, like I said, you got

508
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 5: to do it safely and respect the lake. She can

509
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 5: be a beauty queen, but she can also be a devil.

510
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 5: So you gotta here with a lot of respect. But yeah,

511
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 5: you know, it's it is quite the experience.

512
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,959
Speaker 2: Jared Houston is our guest and he's a guide up

513
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: on Auto Duluth area but guides a lot of places

514
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 2: that you'll be able to tell right now with our conversation.

515
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: How how excited are you for Lake trout opener? Is

516
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 3: that something that you circle on the calendar or.

517
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 5: It is not? Bob's good question. A lot of people

518
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 5: do inquire about that. You get out and do the

519
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 5: lake trout and stuff. I don't. I kind of got

520
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 5: my milk run of near shore Lake Superior stuff, Saint

521
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 5: Louis River stuff, but that would just be adding one

522
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 5: more thing that I already have too much to do.

523
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 5: So I kind of keep I kind of keep that

524
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 5: out to the guys that have been doing it. It's fun.

525
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 5: I've done it myself. It's it's a lot of fun

526
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 5: to go catch those lake trout and the inlands and

527
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 5: stuff like that. But the only lake trout I'm gonna

528
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 5: be flirting with are the ones on Lake Superior in

529
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 5: Wisconsin waters and Showamakan Bay.

530
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: Well, it's god when when fisher right underneath the ice

531
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 2: jared they they have got all and talk about stretch

532
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: and string because it's there they're going to be. They're

533
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: not going to be wanting to go where you'd like

534
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 2: them to go.

535
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 5: I guess that's all I SA's that is absolutely true.

536
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 5: They are You know, anybody at deer hunts and see

537
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 5: the big buck under their deer stand, it's kind of

538
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 5: the same. You got a hold still and and be

539
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 5: prepared and and don't make a move, Just move that spoon,

540
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 5: just jiggle a little bit. But when they bite, they're

541
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 5: not gonna want to come up topside and there. It

542
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 5: can take a long time. If you ever looked at

543
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 5: some of the videos over the years we've been doing it, Uh,

544
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 5: there's a lot of fun bites that h we get

545
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 5: into and a lot of cool catches we get into,

546
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 5: and not one of them has ever had a high

547
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 5: five behind the end of it, because it's just it's

548
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 5: an accomplishments right to go out there and catch a

549
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 5: fish on Lake Superior, and and uh, they're just I

550
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 5: don't know, it's just some soul. I'm always pumped about it.

551
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 5: Every year. This is the beginning of ice fish ice

552
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 5: fishing season. By the end of ice fishing season, I'll

553
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 5: be looking to the next season. But right now I'm

554
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 5: pumped to get back out there.

555
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: Well. And I don't blame you too, especially if, like

556
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,959
Speaker 2: you say, the ice is clear underneath your feet and

557
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: you're seeing this happen in panavision, I mean technicolor, I mean.

558
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 5: Right right there, it is a bright like it illuminates

559
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 5: your ice house.

560
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 4: Man.

561
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 5: Lake Superior is so clear, it's it's fun to look

562
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 5: down twenty five feet and see your bait and you

563
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 5: know nothing below it. But then all of a sudden

564
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 5: you see a missile cruising up and these fissure you

565
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 5: know they're not they're not lethargic ever, so it can

566
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 5: be real cold, high pressure, all those things. You can

567
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 5: be an inland lake where you see like a slow

568
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 5: moving walleye or pan fish are just kind of mosying around.

569
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 5: These trout they're Newman all the time, twenty four to seven.

570
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 5: They never stop, and that's gonna make them fun to

571
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 5: catch because they're just full of energy and it's there.

572
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 5: You know, they live there, so that's that's a big water.

573
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 5: They got to travel a long ways and that's the

574
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 5: that's their life cycle.

575
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: Is there any concern about you having to keep an

576
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: eye on everything around you so things don't go to

577
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: heck in a handbasket while you're out there.

578
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 5: Yes, uh we we We take the most safety precautions.

579
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 5: Uh when it comes to Lake Superior, and I got

580
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 5: the customers out there is uh me and the hard

581
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 5: working guys I work with. They you know, we got

582
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 5: all eyes on all the customers making sure everything's safe.

583
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 5: And we've never you know, it's one of those deals.

584
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 5: I always say that if you have a gut feeling

585
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 5: that feels eery when you go ice fishing, just don't

586
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 5: do it. And and that's been uh, that's been a

587
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 5: take I've done for my whole career. Is uh, if

588
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 5: it doesn't feel right, there's a good chance it probably

589
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 5: isn't right. Just don't do it. Stick to what's safe.

590
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 5: And there's that old saying, better safe than sorry. I

591
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 5: don't care. We don't catch a fish all day. As

592
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 5: long as everybody's safe, we we succeeded. So that's that's

593
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 5: kind of the way, uh, the ice fishing the world

594
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 5: should be. And I know, I see a lot of

595
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 5: these young kids, and I was young ones too. Man,

596
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 5: you get out there, you want to be the first

597
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 5: one out, the first one, the first way, all that stuff.

598
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 5: But as I get older, I'm not that mad as

599
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 5: the fish anymore, you know. And uh, I would prefer

600
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 5: to be safe and certainly keep my customers and my

601
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 5: guests safe.

602
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: I appreciate that too, because that's important. And being not

603
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: as mad at him anymore, I agree.

604
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 3: With that too. I'm exactly the same way. There was

605
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: a time what it was, Hey, how's your eyesight?

606
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 5: Oh, good question, it's still a little fuzzy. I think

607
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 5: it's it's probably you know my next appointments made, which

608
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 5: will be exactly one year, and we're going to uh

609
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 5: make a move on if we're gonna do a surgery

610
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 5: or we're just gonna live with it in right now,

611
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 5: I have been living with it. If it doesn't get

612
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 5: any worse, which I don't think it is. I think

613
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 5: we're gonna be okay. If I close my right eye

614
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 5: and I'm reading the nutrition facts on my copy as

615
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 5: I'm eating my donuts, I said, I heard that you

616
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 5: didn't have donuts. Sorry, I can't read the nutrition facts

617
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 5: with my left eye, but I can read them with

618
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 5: my right eye. And that's made tie in jigs harder

619
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 5: and a little challenging, and you know, stuff like that.

620
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 5: But uh, I got some glasses now and that's kind

621
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 5: of weird. But now now Jared's four eyes sometimes and

622
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 5: that helps. But uh, it is what it is, what

623
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 5: they say, and we'll live with it, and it's just

624
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 5: something that bad that happened to me, and we'll we'll

625
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 5: live with it.

626
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: Well, share with the listeners if they don't know what

627
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: happened to you too, because that's a good lesson I

628
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: think for everybody.

629
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 5: Jared, Yeah, so you know, I always wear some eye

630
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 5: protection when you're fishing, whether you're ice fishing or summer fishing.

631
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 5: For me, I had a jig lodged into a piece

632
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 5: of lumber. My customer did rather, and I took the

633
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 5: rod from him, and I wanted to just see if

634
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 5: I could get it untangled or on snags. Sorry, And

635
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 5: when it dislodged from the lumber, it came like a

636
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 5: rocket and hit me right in the eye. And have

637
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 5: eye eyeglasses on, and it just hit me so hard

638
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 5: it knocked me out. And it was an emergency situation

639
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 5: and very scary. And you know, uh to make a

640
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 5: short story, just you know, be care flout there and

641
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 5: and and uh less with lurd always wear some eye protection,

642
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 5: and don't try to do something that if it's a

643
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 5: gut feeling thing. Going back to that gut feeling, it's

644
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 5: probably wrong. I probably shouldn't have been cranking on that

645
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 5: line and making sure that should have been more safe

646
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 5: about it.

647
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: Well, and you stop and think about I can't tell

648
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: you how many times summer fishing that I have just

649
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: gotten hung up on a on a tree or something

650
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 2: and just pull straight back because you've got the most

651
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: leverage and the rod isn't going to take a lot

652
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 2: of it and pulling straight back, and if it lets go,

653
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: it's gotten nowhere to go, but straight back.

654
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 5: I mean yeah, usually hits the boat or a tree,

655
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 5: or over your head here a whistling by. But boy,

656
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 5: if it hits you, and most some of you have

657
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 5: been hit before, I'm sure you have, Reilly, it hurts.

658
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 5: And if you get hit in the eye or somewhere

659
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 5: that's kind of a gentle spot of your body, be

660
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 5: real care. You know, it's really good to hurt.

661
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: So better to hit your glasses and even break them

662
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: if they have to, but crack them more than break them.

663
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 3: That's correct, it is, Yes, I totally agree.

664
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 2: As the year goes on, Jared and Jared Houston as

665
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 2: our guest a guide in the Duluthe area, and we'll

666
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: get you the numbers and things. So if you're if

667
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: you're thinking that it sounds like fun to do what

668
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,479
Speaker 2: Jared is talking about, be sure you're ready to write,

669
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: and we'll tell you how to get in touch with

670
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: them too as the as the year continues, How do

671
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: your patterns change?

672
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we kind of stick near shore. If we're

673
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 5: talking Lake Superior. We have our routine. Right. So, being

674
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 5: the dead of winter coming up here January February, things

675
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 5: are gonna get cold. Everybody knows that. So we're gonna

676
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 5: stick near shore on Lake Superior, be about you know,

677
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 5: nothing more than fifty five feet of water. And everybody's

678
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 5: got this imagination they go fish on Lake Superior. You're

679
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 5: going so far you can't see the shoreline. Well, we're

680
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 5: the complete opposite. We're right by the shore line, so

681
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 5: it's not that far offshore, and that's where our roaming uh,

682
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 5: you know, slake trout, brown trout, whitefish, those those certain

683
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 5: species will be doing it. For the Saint Louis River,

684
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 5: we'll kind of stick to the flats. They're gonna be

685
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 5: mosing around. They're gonna slow down, but they're gonna be

686
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 5: mosing around, and uh, we'll pickpocket those at those low

687
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 5: life periods. And for the inland lakes, the same thing.

688
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 5: We'll kind of hunker down in a shack and sit

689
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 5: over some crappy puddy holes and and kind of see

690
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 5: our crappy villages start to form and we'll fish those.

691
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 5: As we have culture to spring, we'll switch tactics. We'll

692
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 5: start going doing different things. So it's you gotta be uh,

693
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 5: on top of the cutting edge when it comes to fishing,

694
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 5: because things change in a hurry and you know, week

695
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 5: by week temperature, you gotta watch the forecast things like that,

696
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 5: and you have to adapt. I mean that's just the

697
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 5: way it works with fishing. And uh, I've been doing

698
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 5: a long time and and most of anybody's listening has

699
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,959
Speaker 5: probably could agree. It's it's always changing, it's never the same,

700
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 5: and that's what makes it fun. So you gotta be

701
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 5: you gotta you know, you can't make the fish bite

702
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 5: and you just gotta work to do your best to

703
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 5: get them. I mean that's the way it works.

704
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: And does barometer make a difference in your head?

705
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it does. But you know everybody always asks,

706
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 5: you know about that stuff, moon phases, barometer. Well, no

707
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 5: matter what it is, I still have to go fish.

708
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 5: I'm still going to go fishing, right, So if it's

709
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 5: going to be a toppy one, uh, you know, I

710
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 5: feel bad for the customers to come in and they

711
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 5: know something about the barometer and the moon phases and

712
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 5: things like that. Case in point, my customers yesterday we

713
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 5: had a big bright moon. The other night, those fish

714
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 5: ate all night so they weren't really you know, up

715
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 5: and at them in the morning to have that nice

716
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 5: morning bite. But it was high pressure, it's cold, it

717
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 5: was you know, blow zero wind, blow and all that stuff.

718
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 5: We were able to scrape together some fish, which is great.

719
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 5: But yeah, I do think that barometers and moon phases

720
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 5: and whether you have an impact on fishing for sure.

721
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 5: But I can see the forecast that's going to be

722
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 5: in my favor I give it a thumbs up. But

723
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 5: if it's not my favorite stuff to give a thumbs

724
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 5: up because I'm still going to be out there.

725
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we are going to catch if you don't

726
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 2: go either.

727
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 5: For a lot of people, that's one thing I write

728
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 5: in the paper often for the Looking Tribute News. You

729
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 5: can't catch them on the couch and that's uh. It's

730
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 5: been said a lot in the fishing industry, but it's

731
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 5: absolutely one.

732
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: Trough is are salmon the predatory instinct in fish? I've

733
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 2: found sometimes fish don't really want to eat. They just

734
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: feel like they have to hit it and they're going

735
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: to spit it out.

736
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 3: Again.

737
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: Does salmon do that or are they always eating?

738
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 5: I haven't met a salmon that has done that. The

739
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 5: salmon I've ever come across in my experience, they're gonna eat.

740
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 5: If you see one, and especially ice fish, and you

741
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 5: see one inner you're outline, it's going to be in

742
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 5: attack mode. It's it's it's a blessing to see it

743
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 5: because it's it's a pretty easy fish to catch once

744
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 5: you can get them coming by. I've never seen them

745
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 5: like like a bluegill. I'm looking at bluegill the other day.

746
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 5: That's coming up real mosey and have my blue word.

747
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 5: But is just pecking at it right, Salmon complete opposite.

748
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 5: They're just they're on the attack. And I think they're

749
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 5: competitive by nature, so when they see food, they want

750
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 5: to be the first to get it before their brothers

751
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 5: and sisters get to it. And and that's a that's

752
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 5: a that's a beautiful thing to see a salmon where

753
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 5: I live. They you know you can use for me.

754
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 5: It's jigs and mintle heads, or it could be a waxworm,

755
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 5: it could be a fly, but whatever it is, most

756
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 5: salmon are going to eat what I got under my hole.

757
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: Interesting, then are you the hooks that you use to

758
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: catch them? Are they pretty stout or are they very

759
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 2: good size?

760
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 4: Yeah?

761
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 5: Good question. Smaller hooks. I like to keep them sharp though.

762
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 5: I mean that's a big thing. Is even a sticky

763
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 5: jigging wrapper or a puppet minto you know, for whatever reason,

764
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 5: it gets on my clothes and my hat, my buckets.

765
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 5: But sometimes I get a fish and it doesn't connect

766
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 5: and I have no idea how the fish came off.

767
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 5: It just blows my mind. But anybody can relate to that.

768
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 5: But it's important to have a sharp book number one,

769
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 5: that's for all fish. And then the size of the

770
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 5: hook and the color of the hooks. So for Lake Superior,

771
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 5: we don't have just regular gold or red hooks. Ours

772
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 5: are oranges and pinks and whites. We like to keep

773
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 5: it kind of an accent color to the water clarity.

774
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 5: That kind of helps our our success rates. It's just

775
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 5: being adapting to what Lake Superior wants to have. So

776
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 5: all my my set lines, my troubles and stuff like that,

777
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 5: they are going to be a bright color like a

778
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 5: like orange or a or a pink. I like a

779
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 5: pink cook.

780
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: What about line weight thing?

781
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 5: Yeah?

782
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 2: Does does line weight make a difference for you too?

783
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 5: Yeah? It does. I'm eight to ten pound monofilament. I

784
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 5: do like the stretch. I know there's a lot of

785
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 5: guys that do the floral thing, but uh clear right,

786
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 5: don't have green line, don't have any of that brown

787
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 5: or that panish line. You want to have super clear line.

788
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 5: I like the suffix magic. I mean that stuff's a

789
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 5: pretty clear line. But it is important to have a

790
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 5: good knot. But you don't want to have a quick

791
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 5: clipper or nothing like that. You want to, you know,

792
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 5: dumb down your your presentation. So lower to line only

793
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 5: for me when it comes to the jigging cadences. And

794
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 5: then for the set lines, maybe I'll put a if

795
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 5: it's a tip up out there, which we do a lot,

796
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 5: I'll have the regular tip up line, but that'll be

797
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 5: connected to like a twenty pounds lead. That's all monofilament all,

798
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 5: which is a business ense.

799
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 2: Do you find sometimes when you've got customers out that

800
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: one particular bait will be tripping their trigger better than

801
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: others and then end up going to this having your

802
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 2: customers beyond the same tackle.

803
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 5: You know? That's another great question. So it's fun for

804
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 5: me being a guide. I give everybody something different. So

805
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 5: I guess I give this one guy a venom spoon,

806
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 5: and I give this other guy a Northland Bucks shot spoon,

807
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 5: and I give an other guy a ticamento, and then

808
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 5: whoever all performs the other one. I think that's just

809
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 5: because they saw fish come through their hole. It's not

810
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 5: because of what they had in all honesty, it's just

811
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 5: because they were able to see a fish and the

812
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 5: fish wanted to hit. But it makes the customer feel good.

813
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 5: The guy's got the teacamento. Now that that one's the

814
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 5: one that's fighting. And then I'll send all the customers like, hey,

815
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 5: I want ticam in On'm like, just be patient, you're

816
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 5: gonna get one on the other one too. And then

817
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 5: they do, and you see the camaraderie and the last

818
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 5: from the ice house that my bait outproduces bait blah

819
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 5: blah blah. But that really doesn't make a difference. It's

820
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 5: just you got to be at the right place at

821
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 5: the right time for a fish to come through. And

822
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 5: who's ever got the success. It's it's fun when you

823
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 5: get a big group, really because uh, one of those guys,

824
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 5: I always tell one of you were gonna do really

825
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 5: good today, And what are you guys are gonna do

826
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 5: really poor? There's nothing that's a sergeant's not gonna tell's

827
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 5: military because that's what we're gonna do here. And that's

828
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 5: that's what happens. One does really good and somebody does

829
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 5: really poor, but everybody has fun. And that's just at

830
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 5: the end of the day. That's that's what's all about.

831
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: Somebody makes money and somebody does it.

832
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 5: That's right, correct. Somebody's and somebody does there.

833
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 3: That's it.

834
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 2: Jared, How do people get in touch with you? And

835
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: do you have any openings?

836
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 5: So we have some select openings. We we have a

837
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 5: pretty busy season to kick off here. We do have

838
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 5: some select openings coming at the end of the February

839
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 5: into March, which is okay because when the fishing season

840
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 5: generally closes, we can still fish Lake Superior, which we

841
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 5: will be. If you want to check out our websites

842
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 5: just like the City Houston's Guide Service dot com, or

843
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 5: you can look at our socials. I always people make

844
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 5: fun of me when I say it, but I don't

845
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 5: do that snap wap or tiktacs. We do have the

846
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 5: Facebook and the Instagram Houston's Guide Service, or you can

847
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 5: just call us at two three nine three.

848
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: Jared, I thank you, my friend, spend a delight talking

849
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 2: to you, buddy, and thank you for putting up with us.

850
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 5: To you know, a couple of the most handsome guys

851
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 5: in the radio. I can't think of any more handsome

852
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 5: than you guys.

853
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah we got we got, buddy.

854
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 5: You tell tell mister blakemore bikes. I know it's the

855
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 5: border Battle week and we need the bikes to pull

856
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 5: off another wind, just you know, to have a little

857
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 5: bragging rights for him. So try Blake.

858
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 3: But there's a lot on the line this week. Yeah,

859
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 3: all right, buddy, Well, thank you, Jared. Take care of bud.

860
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, take care of guys.

861
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 3: Pocular ye final.

862
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 2: Line.

863
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, we gotta we gotta do this. We gotta do that.

864
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: You want to go out in the Superior and fish

865
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: for some of those fish?

866
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 3: I do, I do. It'd be fun, fun right underneath

867
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 3: the ice so you can see him coming.

868
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: You know, I was going to ask him to. I

869
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: would have a tendency to hold my breath. They come

870
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: in close, and maybe if they you don't have any time,

871
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 2: Maybe it comes in so hard that you don't have time.

872
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 2: Holy mackerel. If I could see him coming up and

873
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: I just, oh, you're supposed to Jake. I have a

874
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: tendency to stop. And I know that's wrong, but the

875
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: tendency is there. Oh that sight and sit fishing is

876
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: so exciting. Anyway, let's take a pause and we'll come back.

877
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 2: We're going to be taking you probably all the way

878
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: up to the Lake of the Woods to see what's

879
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: going on up there. I don't think it's clear, not

880
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: like Jared said, superior snow up there might be snow,

881
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: but I know it's a tinted water. I know that,

882
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: and that's why the well whatever, we'll find out what's

883
00:44:54,080 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 2: going on up there right after this two minutes after

884
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 2: the hour of seven o'clock, we're back. Yes, we are

885
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: fan outdoors, coming your way until the eight o'clock hour.

886
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: Bob Saint Pierre here, but he's awl at the moment.

887
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: He'll be back, I'm sure. I am Billy Hildebrand, and

888
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: here he comes. He's walking in the door as we speak,

889
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: and you know that's the way things roll around here.

890
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: I guess.

891
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: Hey, let's welcome into the conversation our next guest, because

892
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: he comes to us from the Lake of the Woods area,

893
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: and he is the well, he kind of knows everything

894
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: there is to know about Lake of the woods and

895
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 2: other things too. But Joe Henry joins us right now, Joe,

896
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: good morning.

897
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 4: Sir, happy guys. How are you not bad?

898
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 3: Not bad? How about yourself?

899
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 4: Doing good? Doing good? It's it's been a good start

900
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 4: of the year. And it's unbelievable. You know. I don't

901
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 4: know what you guys, but you know, look at the

902
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 4: calendar and it's like, oh, Christmas and New Year. Shoot,

903
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 4: by the time that time comes, I'll be doing this,

904
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 4: I'll be doing that, and we're past it.

905
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: Holy man, it's surprising how that works.

906
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 3: Joe. It's just incredible. You look back and you think, oh,

907
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 3: I was, yeah, but it's gone right now and here

908
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 3: we are.

909
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 4: You know, they say they get older, time goes faster.

910
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 4: I'm not saying I'm getting older, but I'm certainly going

911
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 4: faster till.

912
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: I always going and I am getting older. And I

913
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: think the getting older is okay, because if you've reached

914
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 2: your maximum, that's a that's not going to be a

915
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 2: be a.

916
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 4: Thing, right, Yeah, you know, I tell you tell us

917
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 4: a sound was a nice time to reflect on all

918
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 4: the all the wonderful things that we do have. I

919
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 4: think so many times human nature can compare yourself to

920
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 4: others or you know, look at the negatives. But in

921
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 4: most cases, so many of us are blessed, aren't we.

922
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 3: I totally agree.

923
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: And when it comes to fishing too, I think that

924
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: US and Minnesota we uh we kind of take a

925
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: lot of things for granted. And I think back on

926
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: that because I when I was chasing tournaments and stuff,

927
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: a lot of the guys would drive for hours to

928
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: get where. We've got something right out the back door.

929
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 4: It just oh, man, look at look at lick of

930
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 4: the Woods. I mean, yeah, the know the thing they

931
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 4: live a crown jewel like that. People are coming from

932
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 4: all over the I think I'm from all over the world,

933
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 4: but really all of the nation and to fish or waters,

934
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 4: and unnaturally everybody thinks of wise, but jeez, you know

935
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 4: the musky fishery, the lake sturge and fishery. You know,

936
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 4: people are coming up to catch the monster crappies. Over

937
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 4: in the Ontario side. Some people take trips on snowmobiles

938
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 4: and go over to the eastern part of Lake the

939
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 4: Wizard catch those lake trout to the ice. I mean,

940
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 4: there's there's a lot of opportunities, and uh, it's right

941
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 4: in Minnesota.

942
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, I totally agree, Joe. Are our guys are

943
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: they driving on Lake of the Woods?

944
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, they sure are. You know, it's always it's

945
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 4: always a loaded question when people say, hey, how's the ice.

946
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 4: You know, the Lake of the Woods is so big

947
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 4: that in one area it can be really you know,

948
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 4: there might be current and not is sustained. And in

949
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 4: other areas they're driving one ton trucks pulling wheelhouses. You know.

950
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 4: So I also preface it by saying it's based on

951
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 4: the ice road that you go out on. So whatever

952
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 4: ice road you're going to go out on, use the

953
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 4: information from that resort, that outfitter was working that specific

954
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 4: part of the of the lake and that part of

955
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 4: the ice specifically. But I can tell you that as

956
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 4: a rule, you never want to make a broad statement.

957
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 4: But as a rule, boy, ice conditions are really really good.

958
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 4: They're taking off. Well, you know, I'll say that we

959
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 4: get started. We bought our dayhouses out, which are you know,

960
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 4: like our four person hard setted fish houses. Our resorts

961
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 4: and outfitters will get those out give or take based

962
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 4: on other nature. About December tenth this year, we a

963
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 4: lot of resorts moved them out December eighth, so we

964
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 4: got a really good start to the season with that

965
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 4: some cold weather, haven't had a lot of snow, and

966
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 4: right now we have some ice roads that are along

967
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 4: one ton trucks pulling wheelhouses. So do you give an

968
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 4: idea of halt fake the ice is? It's really progressed nicely.

969
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 4: We got nice ice roads. Fishing has been, you know, wonderful.

970
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 4: We do fishing would be good because we've got a

971
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 4: good population of fish and you know, we knew this

972
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 4: fall a lot of those fish were staged off that

973
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 4: south shore and then up at the angle they were

974
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 4: in spots where we actually do ice fishing, so naturally

975
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 4: those fish were there when we started fishing, and it's

976
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 4: been a good start. Early ice really is really bonkers,

977
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 4: like it's really hilly, unbelievable because those fish are so congregated.

978
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 4: You know, you're talking, you know, lots of examples of

979
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 4: over one hundred fish per fish house, which I don't

980
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 4: want to put that out there too much because that

981
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 4: was early I said, phenomenal fishing. That's like man alive.

982
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 4: But even now, I mean those fish are spread out,

983
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 4: so you're not catching those kind of numbers, but you know,

984
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 4: if you fish all day, you never know when those

985
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 4: fish are going to come through. In like of the woods,

986
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 4: like you mentioned earlier, we have stained water, and that

987
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 4: stained water is wonderful because you know you don't have

988
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 4: to be fishing overnight to catch a walleye. You can

989
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 4: be fishing all day. In fact, you know a lot

990
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 4: of times your bigger fish will come midday. But but

991
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 4: if you pick them all day, if you fish all day,

992
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 4: you never know when those fish are going to come through,

993
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 4: never know when the feeding windows are going to be.

994
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 4: But if you fish all day, by the end of

995
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 4: the day, you know most people are going to come

996
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 4: away with, you know, a buck of fish. And that's

997
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 4: that's like the woods. Never know what you're going to catch. Walleyes, sagers,

998
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 4: jumble perch, tulab's, burbot eelp out once in a while

999
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 4: on that south then, because you know all the water's

1000
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 4: cold now, you'll get some of those fish from you know,

1001
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 4: far away up on the Lake of the Woods coming south,

1002
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 4: just swimming around. Everyone swallowed like a big musky in

1003
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 4: the south end and everyone swall will catch a trot

1004
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 4: or two. So it's uh, you never know what you're

1005
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 4: going to catch. When you said the Hook and Wake.

1006
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 2: Of the Woods the Schools of Fish show, Are they

1007
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: are they moving? Do you think around in a circuitar

1008
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: some kind of fashion just feeding? We had that conversation

1009
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: earlier in the show too. Or are they are they?

1010
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: Do they have a place in mind or a destination

1011
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 2: they're going for some reason?

1012
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think I think a couple of things. You know, Obviously,

1013
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 4: fish are forge based, right, I mean, you know mother

1014
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 4: nature puts in there, It puts it in that gene

1015
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 4: that just you know, when it's all and they want

1016
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 4: to they want to eat, do they want to reproduce?

1017
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 4: And you know, so they're really forge based. Now, with

1018
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 4: that being said, if you have ice roads above you,

1019
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 4: if you have a lot of traffic above you moving

1020
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 4: to fish, ELS's trucks, you know, I think that's going

1021
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 4: to push fish. And so you know, in Licking the

1022
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 4: Woods as an example, what oftentimes happens is if you

1023
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 4: know you'll you'll follow those fish. And you know, you

1024
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 4: work so hard to get customers that when a customer comes,

1025
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 4: you want to do your best so they'll come back

1026
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 4: to you next year. So most of our resorts and

1027
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 4: outfitters are really good about moving their fish houses awesome,

1028
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 4: often getting a clean set and really staying on the fish.

1029
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 4: You people have a good experience. Well, those fish are moving,

1030
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 4: and you know, it's not uncommon by the end of

1031
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 4: the year that we'll have an ice road that's ten, fifteen,

1032
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 4: even twenty miles long just because they want to stay

1033
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 4: in those fish. Now, there are years when those fish

1034
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 4: will you know, stay closer to shore and for whatever reason,

1035
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 4: they don't move real far. But as a rule of

1036
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 4: those fishes are moving around quite a bit. And you know,

1037
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 4: who knows why, right, we think we have the answers.

1038
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 4: But when it's hell said and done, are they moving

1039
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 4: because it's forage or they're moving because you know, there's

1040
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 4: an ice road with one times pulling wheelhouses over the

1041
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 4: top of their heads and they just don't call that traffic,

1042
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 4: sort of getting away from it.

1043
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 2: Well with the wheelhouses, the whole phenomenon of wheelhouses show,

1044
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 2: there's got to be an awful lot of them coming

1045
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 2: up to the lake, and they they they most of them,

1046
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 2: And I've not done that, so I'm really speaking from

1047
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 2: a curiosity. If people bring their wheelhouses up, they stop

1048
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: at a resort to get access to a road and

1049
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 2: then everything's up to them as far as where how

1050
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: far are they're going to go, where they're going to

1051
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: set up in that kind of thing.

1052
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, so yeah, So you know, for people that

1053
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 4: aren't filled with like the onos, you get a couple options, right.

1054
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 4: So number one, if you don't have any equipment at all,

1055
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 4: it's the beauty. You can come up and contact one

1056
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 4: of our resorts and they'll put you on a nice

1057
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 4: warm fishouse with the holes drilled ready to roll. Even

1058
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 4: get a fishing equipment forty if you don't have it,

1059
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 4: and they're going to put you in a situation where

1060
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 4: you're going to be in a seventy degree fishouse and

1061
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 4: enjoying life and catching fish. They'll even clean your fish

1062
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 4: for you. That's the resort experience. For people that own

1063
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 4: a wheelhouse when they come up, what you first do

1064
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 4: is decide, all right, which resorts or outfitters have ice

1065
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 4: roads that allow me to pull a wheelhouse out on.

1066
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,959
Speaker 4: And there's lots of them. Just going through a list.

1067
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 4: I mean, Adrians is a popular wigwam resort. You have,

1068
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 4: you know Bugsy Cyrus, you got Morse Point, you have

1069
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 4: Zipple Bay. Those are all ice roads on Lake of

1070
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 4: the Woods that you can access. And then with an

1071
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 4: ice road, it's nice because these resorts and outfitters they're

1072
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 4: maintaining that ice rode. So there's a fee when you

1073
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 4: go on that ice road, but that fee you're paid

1074
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,720
Speaker 4: for when you drive. You're really pain for the access

1075
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 4: from private land onto the ice right because technically ice

1076
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 4: is public right. But everybody knows that when they're plowing

1077
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 4: on ten to fifteen mile ice road, they're marking it

1078
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 4: with signs, they're plowing it every day, they're checking it

1079
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 4: before it gets slid out to make sure they're want

1080
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 4: to cracks rice up peoples. They're constantly doing maintenance. And

1081
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 4: then when you go out there, they'll tell you all right,

1082
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 4: you know guys, when you take your wheelhouse out there,

1083
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 4: you know the bite right now. Tradition typically it has been

1084
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 4: in like twenty five to thirty one feet of water.

1085
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 4: So we have three ice roads out there for wheelhouses.

1086
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 4: You're going to see that we have resort houses on

1087
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 4: the roads to the right. But when you drive on

1088
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 4: that main road, the roads to the left are the

1089
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 4: wheelhouse roads, and you'll see signed that says you know

1090
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 4: Sager lane, the walleye lane and two will be laying.

1091
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 4: Those are three roads that go off to the left.

1092
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 4: You'll see wheelhouse out there when you drive down, you'll

1093
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 4: see that down that road. We have places that are

1094
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 4: plowed out every once in a while that you can

1095
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 4: back your wheelhouse up on. So pick out a spot

1096
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 4: and you can just back your wheelhouse up. That's the

1097
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 4: area that we've been catching the most fish. So feel

1098
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 4: free to back up. And if you have any questions,

1099
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 4: you know our numbers on the sheet we gave you,

1100
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 4: give us a call. Although I have fun, please take

1101
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 4: the road pass your purchase and put that in the

1102
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 4: on the you know, mirror of your your vehicles. You

1103
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 4: can say you have a pass and if you have

1104
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 4: any problems that I'll just give us a call. And

1105
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 4: then you go out and set up and you know,

1106
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 4: make home base. And it's simple as that. So a

1107
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 4: lot of people that will set up their wheelhouses. You know,

1108
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 4: if you go to zip Zipple Bay Resort, you know,

1109
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 4: you might say, hey, let's go set up our wheelhouse.

1110
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 4: And what we'll do is when it gets dark, fishing

1111
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 4: kind of tails off. You can get some fished over.

1112
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 4: You know, when it's dark on the Lake of the Woods.

1113
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 4: But as a real fishing is during the day, you

1114
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 4: know what, Hey, when it gets dark, O, let's buzz

1115
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 4: over to the igglu bar on the ice. Let's go

1116
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 4: over there and have a pop over the iglue bar.

1117
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 4: If you go to a cyrus, you can stop at

1118
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 4: the angry waller that's out on the ice. And those

1119
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 4: are just novelties. Some people like going to shore and

1120
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 4: having a nice dinner at a resort and they'll drive

1121
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 4: back out to their fishouse when they're done, and it's

1122
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 4: just there's so much that goes on up there. It's

1123
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 4: you know, I'll just say, even though the fishing is

1124
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 4: really good, it's as much social as it is fishing.

1125
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, do you, in your opinion, do the fishing

1126
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: hours Obviously I'm guessing are more fishing hours in the

1127
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 2: winter time than in the summer.

1128
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 3: Would that be accurate?

1129
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 4: You know, I I can tell you this from a

1130
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 4: lodging tax perspective. You know, we track lodging tax because

1131
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 4: we're tourism and you know, we do as much of

1132
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 4: business in four months of winter as we do in

1133
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 4: about about six and a half months of open water.

1134
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 4: I say six and a half months, because there's probably

1135
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 4: a month and a half like November and stuff that

1136
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 4: really there isn't much going on. But you know, so

1137
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 4: that's they're about equal. So I'd say it's pretty equal.

1138
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 4: Now obviously months of month. I will tay this that

1139
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 4: you know, we have four thousand people in Lake of

1140
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 4: the Woods County and on a busy given weekend on

1141
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 4: Lake of the Woods ice, you know, it's been estimated

1142
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 4: that we could have as many as ten thousand people,

1143
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 4: two and a half times the population of our county. Now,

1144
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 4: with that being said, Lake of the Woods is big,

1145
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 4: and you're not on top of each other at all.

1146
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 4: I mean, it's you know, the basin of Lake of

1147
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 4: the Woods, big Traverse Bay. It's thirty miles more south

1148
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 4: by twenty five miles east west. And when you're talking

1149
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 4: about having on is istro that's ten miles long or

1150
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 4: fifteen miles long. As a season progress is here, you know,

1151
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's a lot of ice. I mean,

1152
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 4: you're driving over a lot of ice that isn't In fact,

1153
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 4: it's really interesting because as the season goes on, you

1154
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 4: might have an io about it about ten miles and

1155
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 4: then you know somebody that sets up short, they'll set

1156
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 4: up at five mile mark and they lack the heck

1157
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 4: out of them, and some of those fish are doubling back.

1158
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 4: So you know, it's uh, it is, it's neat, it's

1159
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 4: you know, hardly. And I would say Lake of the

1160
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 4: Woods is probably the largest size fishing destination in North America.

1161
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 4: And thank goodness, we were big, so you're not on

1162
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 4: top of each other. You know, you really get a

1163
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 4: sense of ability when you fly over the lake in

1164
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 4: the winter. You know, when you fly over that lake

1165
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 4: and you see a lot of fish houses where the

1166
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 4: resorts are, they got all their houses in a roll,

1167
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 4: and it seems like there's a lot of traffic there

1168
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 4: and stuff. But when you fly over the whole lake,

1169
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 4: there is a lot of the lake that there is nothing, nobody,

1170
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 4: and that kind of gives you a little more perspective.

1171
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:54,959
Speaker 4: I guess we have.

1172
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: To take a pause. Can you stay with us yet?

1173
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 4: I can?

1174
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 3: Yes, wonderful.

1175
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 2: Joe Henry is our guest. We're talking about Lake of

1176
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: the Woods and the size of it and thirty miles

1177
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 2: for a bay, thirty miles long.

1178
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 3: I'm looking at a map. When's the last time you

1179
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 3: looked at a map and saw the Northwest Angle. I

1180
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 3: haven't said that. How the heck did that come to be?

1181
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 3: I want to find out from Joe when we come back. Okay,

1182
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 3: we'll take a pause and we'll be right back after

1183
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 3: this Sorcers.

1184
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: Twenty minutes after twenty one minutes after the hour of

1185
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: seven o'clock on a fan outdoors Saturday morning. Billy hild

1186
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 2: A Brand here along with him, He's Bob, Saint Peter

1187
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: and him, He's Brett Blakemoarn him and him, him and

1188
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 2: him Morning Brett, good morning, and our guest, mister Joe

1189
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 2: Henry from the Lake of the Woods tourism to He

1190
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 2: has been very, very interesting as far as things going on,

1191
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 2: and Joe, Bob is looking at a.

1192
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 3: Map and wondering, well, I didn't grow up as a Minnesotan,

1193
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 3: so maybe all Minnesotans know how the Northwest Angle. I

1194
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 3: have no idea because I look at it on a

1195
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 3: map and I'm thinking somebody screwed up here. Do you

1196
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 3: know the history as to how the Northwest Angle became

1197
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 3: part of Minnesota?

1198
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 4: Joe, Yeah, you know, I do. So Bob, sit back,

1199
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 4: have a piece of lefsa and just relax, you know,

1200
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 4: welcome to Minnesota. You know, that angle is really kind

1201
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 4: of neat. So for listeners, you know the angle, we're

1202
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 4: talking about Lake of the Woods. And for those that know,

1203
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 4: Lake of the Woods are located right at the very

1204
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 4: tip top of Minnesota. It's in Minnesota, located on the

1205
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 4: Canadian border. We border Canada. But then when you look

1206
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 4: at the top of the map when Minnesota goes across,

1207
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 4: there's a little chimney, a little tip that sticks up

1208
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 4: in the Canada. And that's the Northwest Angle, you know,

1209
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 4: And that's said the northernmost point of the contiguous US.

1210
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 4: That's where the fourteen thousand, five hundred and fifty two

1211
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 4: islands of Lake of the Woods begin. And in order

1212
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 4: to travel to the Northwest Angle, if you're going to

1213
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 4: drive there, you actually have to travel about forty miles

1214
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 4: through Canada and then you re enter into the US.

1215
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 4: That's called an exclave where you have to go through

1216
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 4: another territory in order to reach your own. Now there's

1217
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 4: it's interesting, there's four exclaves in the US. There's Hyder Alaska,

1218
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 4: there's Point Roberts, Washington, the Northwest Angle in Minnesota, and

1219
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 4: there's a Campbellbello island over and I think it's Nova

1220
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 4: Scoti area. So it's interesting. And now you ask, why

1221
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 4: why is that little tip. It looked like Minnesota SiO

1222
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 4: goes straight across there. It's a mapping error. Back when

1223
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 4: they're figuring out the treaties, they said, okay, they promised

1224
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 4: the United States that you would get the headwaters of

1225
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 4: the Mississippi River. And back then they thought the headwaters

1226
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 4: of the Mississippi River was Angle Inland, which is in

1227
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 4: the very far northwest corner tip. You can see where

1228
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 4: that water tapers off and gets real narrow. They thought

1229
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 4: that was the headwaters the Mississippi. So well after the

1230
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 4: ink was dried, it was well over a year they realized, whoa,

1231
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 4: this is not the headwaters of the Mississippi. That's still

1232
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 4: down on Lake Cataska.

1233
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 6: Right.

1234
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 4: So but the ink was right that the treaty had

1235
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 4: been you know, long long approved, and so we ended

1236
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 4: up with a piece of paradise up there.

1237
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 5: And it is cool.

1238
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 4: I mean, we have that the Buie, the northernmost point. Buie,

1239
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 4: just like Key West has a boy signifying the southernmost point,

1240
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 4: we have that buy up there signifying the northernmost point.

1241
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 4: We've had people in the same day. Take a picture

1242
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 4: of the Key West buy and take a picture of

1243
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 4: the Northwest Angle Boy in the same day. So obviously

1244
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 4: they flew up, they drove up and did that deal.

1245
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 4: And but you guys did. It's a whole it's a

1246
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 4: whole different world up there. I mean, you know, when

1247
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 4: you go to the Angle, we have ice fishing resorts

1248
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 4: up there too, and up there they have one ice road,

1249
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 4: and that ice road is strictly from going from Young's Bay,

1250
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 4: which is on Angle Inlet, over to the island resort

1251
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 4: sign the Flag Island, the Oak Island. You don't fish

1252
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 4: off that road. They just that's for transportation to get

1253
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 4: to your resort. And then we also have a res

1254
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 4: angle Inlet area too, And then when you ice fish

1255
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 4: up there, it's all full service. Iish where they take

1256
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 4: you out in Bombardier's So they have the fish houses

1257
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 4: set up on usual end structure up there because there's

1258
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 4: so many islands, but they all their fish houses all

1259
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 4: set up bready the road. It's like doing the south end.

1260
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 4: The difference being is that they take you out in

1261
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 4: bombers and they'll fit you right up, bring it right

1262
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 4: to the door of your fish house and get you

1263
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 4: unloaded and get you in there, and they check on

1264
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 4: your throw out the day and they bring it back

1265
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 4: just like they do in the South End. They bring

1266
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 4: it back in a happy hour. They clean your fish

1267
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 4: four in. Your biggest decision of the day is number one,

1268
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 4: what should I drink? And number two is should we

1269
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 4: eat a fish tonight or should get prepared to bring home?

1270
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 3: You know, how many people live in the angle?

1271
01:03:56,080 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good question. You know, it varies, but uh,

1272
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 4: it varies. It went up since COVID, and I I

1273
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 4: don't want to say for sure. I'm not positive the

1274
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 4: numbers beyond with you I did have a good handle

1275
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 4: on it. But with COVID, a lot of people set

1276
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 4: their residents to be up at the Northwest Angle, So

1277
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 4: numbers have been so they've been jumping all around. But

1278
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 4: there's not there's not big numbers of people that live

1279
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 4: up there naturally. Tourisms are biggest industry is and you know,

1280
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 4: really it's it's it's it's it's a resort community is

1281
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 4: what it is?

1282
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 3: Is there a high school or do they have to

1283
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 3: travel down to the main part of it? Like, what's

1284
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 3: the community?

1285
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Speaker 4: That's a good question. Yeah, we have. We have really

1286
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 4: the only one room school so the state up there

1287
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 4: in Angle Inlet, it's called the Northwest Angle School. And

1288
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 4: you know, you go to school there through I believe

1289
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,959
Speaker 4: it's through the eighth grade, and then when you start

1290
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 4: going to high school, it's either through the sixth grade

1291
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 4: or through the eighth grade. But then when when people

1292
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 4: turn to the age where you know they have to

1293
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 4: go to the high school or whatever, they go down

1294
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 4: to World Hay School. So they literally will catch a

1295
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 4: bus at o dark thirty in the morning. And that

1296
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 4: bus and that bus, bob, it actually has great big

1297
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 4: steel bars on the front of it, just because there's

1298
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 4: so many deer in that Angle road and they truck

1299
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 4: down to a World every single day and that so,

1300
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 4: as I understand it, those kids will catch the bus

1301
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 4: at about six thirty in the morning, and you know,

1302
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 4: they'll sleep on the way there usually, and then when

1303
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 4: they come home at night, they'll do homework. It's done

1304
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 4: when they get home as a rule. But otherwise that

1305
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 4: one room school. This is kind of cool. I remember

1306
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 4: talking to the Northwest Angle you know, teach her about it,

1307
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 4: and she said, you know, it's interesting. As the kids

1308
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 4: get older. We actually have some of our older students

1309
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 4: help to teach our younger students. And you know, when

1310
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 4: you have to teach somebody something, you really get a

1311
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 4: good grasp on it, don't you. It's an interesting way

1312
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 4: to learn. And those, as a rule of those kids

1313
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 4: that have come out of that Northwest Angle school have

1314
01:05:58,920 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 4: been very, very sharp.

1315
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 3: Interesting.

1316
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 2: I can't imagine that the one room schoolhouses. I used

1317
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 2: to know my aunts, both my aunts taught in one

1318
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 2: room schoolhouses a dous of years ago. There are quite

1319
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 2: a ways past living. But the stories they told were incredible,

1320
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 2: and that's, uh yeah, pretty incredible, all right.

1321
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 4: I was talking to I was talking to one of

1322
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 4: the moms, you know, and I said, you know, what,

1323
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 4: what's it like, you know, for your kids to go

1324
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 4: to that learned West single school, I mean one room schoolhouse.

1325
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 4: And you know, she said, you know, like anything in life,

1326
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 4: you know, there's there's certain things you gain from it

1327
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 4: and certain things you don't. But we feel like our

1328
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 4: kids based on the controlled environment and really getting a

1329
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 4: good attention, we feel and just how they're growing up

1330
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 4: in this kind of environment. We feel that there's more

1331
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 4: pros in the ore comes that you know, we feel

1332
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 4: that our kids have been really prepared for life once

1333
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 4: they start going down to high school and even get

1334
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 4: out of high school. So it's interesting. It's a good community.

1335
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 3: I tried to do a Google maps how long it

1336
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 3: would take to go from angle Township to war Road.

1337
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 3: It broke Google. You can't figure it out. Honestly, it's

1338
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 3: not loading. It doesn't work well.

1339
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 2: Take us back down to the south end again. How

1340
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 2: is fishing? You said it was really good? How what

1341
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 2: are people catching stuff on?

1342
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 4: You know it's your Minnesota. So you can use two holes,

1343
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,919
Speaker 4: So we use that one two punch beating. You dig

1344
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 4: one line and your dead stick the second. So as

1345
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,919
Speaker 4: a rule, when you're drigging that first line, using using

1346
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 4: a good jiggenspoon, usually in the color of like gold

1347
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 4: in that stained water. Gold is good. Glue wed glal

1348
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 4: red glue white on some bright colors, but jiggenspoon with

1349
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 4: a mindle head on it, or piece of mintal tail

1350
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 4: in one hole. I also on that chigen line. I

1351
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 4: really like using a small to midsized RiPP and wrap

1352
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,479
Speaker 4: a ripping wraps one of those whipless crankbaits, of course,

1353
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 4: and it's got rattles and spead vibrations and I can

1354
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 4: rip that thing. And I really think that that not

1355
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 4: only helps spring fish under the fish house, but you

1356
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 4: know when those fish come in, it's an attractor. It

1357
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 4: gets fish fired up, and even if they don't hit it,

1358
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 4: some do. Even if they don't hit that rip and wrap,

1359
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:17,759
Speaker 4: I think it pulls them in to hit our dead sticks.

1360
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 4: Of course, the second light is a dead stick, and

1361
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 4: that's a live minnow that we set usually six inches

1362
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 4: to about a foot off the bottom. So when those

1363
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 4: fish come in, if they aren't a neutral mode, then

1364
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 4: that watch that mintal for a while, eventually go over

1365
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 4: and kind of grab it and that bobber goes down

1366
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 4: and you can catch a lot of fish that way

1367
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 4: by using that one two punch. You know, some fish

1368
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 4: are that come in hot to trot. Some are much

1369
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 4: more lethargic. Some days they ate the day before. Some

1370
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 4: days you have a pressure system. You might have had

1371
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 4: a temperature fluctuation of fifty degrees and turns the fish off.

1372
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 4: So you want to do that one two punch. And

1373
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 4: I kind of mentioned earlier. If you fish all day

1374
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 4: long and kind of paid attention to things, you know,

1375
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 4: you see fish come through higher in the water column

1376
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 4: on you in your electronics, you raise up to them,

1377
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 4: and if you're fishing, you're gonna catch fish.

1378
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 2: I've read if the sager itself has more of a

1379
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 2: tendency to be real active during the middle of the day.

1380
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 3: Is that for two?

1381
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 4: You know, I think it's you know, uh, yeah, I

1382
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 4: think I think they certainly are active during the middle

1383
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 4: of the day. But there's times when you'll get out

1384
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 4: to the fish house and they're they're they're rolling, and

1385
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 4: you know, even towards towards the evening.

1386
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 3: I guess that's a rule.

1387
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 4: They're probably more active during the middle of the day.

1388
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1389
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 4: I remember when I first went up to Lake of

1390
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 4: the Wig, just as well before I was tourism director,

1391
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 4: and I remember I was just gung ho to get

1392
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 4: out there early. I was getting out there at oh

1393
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 4: dark thirty, all rare and to go. And I remember

1394
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 4: these old these old timers are sitting around having coffee

1395
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 4: and joining their breakfasts. And I heard one of them

1396
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 4: say that you let those rookies get out the nice

1397
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 4: and really seven other cup of coffee. They knew that

1398
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 4: in Lake Woods, you know, actually sometimes gets better as

1399
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 4: the sun comes up. A little bit because of that

1400
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 4: stained water. And uh, it's sure, it's sure bodes well

1401
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,560
Speaker 4: for tourism because you know, if people don't have to

1402
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 4: be out there, uh you know before light or after dark.

1403
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,640
Speaker 4: I mean naturally, it's uh it makes life easy. Put

1404
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 4: it that way.

1405
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 2: Well, sometimes it's it's easier to sleep in the night

1406
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 2: after the night before.

1407
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, speak for yourself, right, but it's true.

1408
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 3: It's true.

1409
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 2: Uh, Joe, your website, if people like talking about the

1410
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 2: ice roads and and where they're coming out of and

1411
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 2: things like that, is that information they can find on

1412
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 2: your website.

1413
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 4: Sure can, Yeah, yep. And you know, so it's it's

1414
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 4: lack Ofthewoods m and dot com. It's lackly with Tourament's website.

1415
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 4: But we have we have all of our resorts on there,

1416
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 4: and you know, we have all the amenities they have,

1417
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 4: and uh, there's a lot of options up there. But

1418
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 4: you know, as a rule, either you're going to be

1419
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 4: going out of the south then or going out of

1420
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 4: the northwest angle, and uh, there's lots of places that

1421
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 4: you can go, even whether you bring your own stuff

1422
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 4: up or you know, whether you want to just make

1423
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 4: life easy and go with the resorts. And it's about

1424
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 4: getting out. I sure enjoy you you guys. I surely

1425
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 4: appreciate the fact that ice fishing has got nice enough

1426
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 4: with warm fish houses and being able to drive right

1427
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 4: to the door of the fish house or have a resort, uh,

1428
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 4: you know, use a bomber. And I started to take

1429
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 4: it for the fish life. Is that easy that way,

1430
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 4: And that has enabled a lot of people that otherwise

1431
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 4: wouldn't be ice fishing to enjoy the sport, to get

1432
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 4: outside in the winter and do some montal recreation and

1433
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 4: you know, get kids into the sport of ice fishing.

1434
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 4: I think all that is really really great.

1435
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 2: And I know that my son's bachelor party that we

1436
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 2: went up on and and stayed in a sleeperhouse, it

1437
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 2: was as far as a good time goes, it was incredible.

1438
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 3: Joe.

1439
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 2: I mean you talked about your being together and a

1440
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 2: lot of the funning and a lot of the kidding,

1441
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 2: and a lot of the.

1442
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 3: Fishing that goes on. It's it's it's unbelievable. It's just

1443
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:54,759
Speaker 3: so special.

1444
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 2: And I hope everybody makes use of that too, because

1445
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 2: it's it's easy, like you say, and it's pretty.

1446
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 4: A lot of we have a lot of sleepers. I

1447
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,839
Speaker 4: don't like the woods, and it's like it's like glamping.

1448
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 4: It's like ice camping, but it's glamping. And you know,

1449
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 4: I don't know, beiliy. You know when you when you

1450
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 4: go outside of a sleeper fish house at night and

1451
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 4: you look up at the sky on a clear night. Oh,

1452
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 4: it's it's absolutely onspiring to see what the stars look

1453
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 4: like when there's no light pollution in that far north.

1454
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 4: I mean, the stars twinkle and the milky ways and

1455
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 4: you can see satellite sometimes buzzing across the sky. It's

1456
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 4: just it's just really a different world. It's very there's

1457
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,839
Speaker 4: so much beauty in it. It's it's hard to explain

1458
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 4: unless you've seen it.

1459
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 3: And it's stunning too.

1460
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 2: And you Joe and I look up at the sky

1461
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 2: when we're up there, it makes me feel real small

1462
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 2: but real uh yeah, it's just real thankful to be alive.

1463
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 3: As maybe that's it's pretty cool, pretty cool.

1464
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 4: It is really really cool. Yeah, you know, you know

1465
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 4: I should I should mention too. You know, this is

1466
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 4: one thing that we started up a lake of the

1467
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 4: woods about thirteen years ago, but it's spread across the state.

1468
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 4: Is you don't keep it clean we have a lot

1469
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 4: more traffic on Minnesota lakes now and just across the ice.

1470
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 4: But there's a lot of traffic ice fishing, and you know,

1471
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 4: with that you have human beings, and with human beings

1472
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 4: you have it's great, but you also have challenges with

1473
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 4: garbage and waste. And you know there's that new keep

1474
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:20,759
Speaker 4: It Clean Loud Minnesota that you any kind of garbage

1475
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 4: or trash now cannot touch the ice. It cannot touch

1476
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 4: the ice, it can't go below the ice. You have

1477
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:28,560
Speaker 4: to keep it in your fish house, you got to

1478
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 4: keep it in your vehicle, you got to keep it

1479
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 4: an enclosed container. And you know, we got over sixty

1480
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,560
Speaker 4: areas now that assigned on to keep it Clean and

1481
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 4: representing over fifteen hundred lakes. We got that new law

1482
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 4: passed and a good friend of mine who is with

1483
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 4: the Iowa Great Lakes Fishing Club, Terry Thompson, they actually

1484
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 4: started keep it Clean down in Iowa now and just

1485
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 4: mimicked our program after we talked about it. So I

1486
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 4: really a success there for everybody that goes out and

1487
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 4: outdoor recorates and obviously we care about the environment.

1488
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 3: Right, You're right, you are right.

1489
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 2: That's so special and it doesn't happen every place. I mean,

1490
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 2: you've got you better look around Minnesota and enjoy what's

1491
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,839
Speaker 2: here because it is special. Don't take it for granted

1492
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 2: and take care of it. Joe, I thank you, sir,

1493
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 2: thank you for your time and your insight, Buddy, I

1494
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 2: really do. And I'll wish you nothing but success when

1495
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 2: you go back up there, or when you do go

1496
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 2: up there, or when you are up there and keep

1497
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 2: fishing and we'll talk again.

1498
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 3: Okay, you know what that's all great?

1499
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 4: Heyday is have a wonderful, wonderful new year and think

1500
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 4: so much to the opportunity appreciate it.

1501
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 3: You bet you.

1502
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 2: That's Joe Henry, director of tourism up on the Lake

1503
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 2: of the Woods. And check out their website because it's

1504
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 2: got a lot of information that people including yours truly

1505
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 2: would want will want to know when we go and

1506
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: make plans to go. Sometimes the planning is as much

1507
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 2: fun as actually going too. So we'll take our final

1508
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 2: pause and we'll be back with one more segment, and Bob,

1509
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:58,879
Speaker 2: I'm going to just throw the game.

1510
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 3: Over to him for the next Okay, here we go,

1511
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 3: buckle up, Buttercup, here we go. We'll be right back.

1512
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 2: Man, Well, it is Brett the last segment him, Yeah,

1513
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 2: him and him. Bred always gives me a bad time.

1514
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 3: But I don't think it's that no hearing it. He

1515
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 3: just said, it's the beast. It's I don't know how

1516
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 3: the day without hearing it.

1517
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 2: But it is a routine and it's I kind of

1518
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 2: get into habits. And that's okay. You know what I

1519
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 2: said earlier in the show. Maybe we talked about some

1520
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 2: things that as we look back on it, good and

1521
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 2: not so good that we've experienced in the outdoors this year.

1522
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,600
Speaker 2: And one of the things that really stick out in

1523
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:07,640
Speaker 2: my mind and there's nothing I can do about it

1524
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 2: other than just be grabby about it.

1525
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 3: I have no idea where this is going, but I'm interested.

1526
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 3: But you know, I've grown up.

1527
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 2: I have grown up in the socks in our area.

1528
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 3: I've grown up.

1529
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 2: I was just looking at all the shows we've done,

1530
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 2: but I've grown up on SoC Lake. I've seen sock

1531
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 2: Lake from the beginning to the end. And I read

1532
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 2: something I had written about Father's Day a long time ago.

1533
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 2: It's got to be well, the kids were little and

1534
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 2: I referred to them as young, so twenty years ago

1535
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 2: and I was cleaning stuff out actually, so I read

1536
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 2: it and it's right because the Sock Lake, as far

1537
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 2: as teaching me the.

1538
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 3: Outdoors, was my playground.

1539
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 2: Water skiing, went through hundreds of gallons of gas, water

1540
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 2: skiing hundreds learning to fish bass, I mean I started

1541
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 2: the fish bass and I was walking in tennis shoes

1542
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 2: behind my dad in the evenings are early in the

1543
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 2: morning fishing floating plugs with dack round line. I ice

1544
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 2: fishing and spoon augers. We go through, try to get

1545
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 2: through the ice. And it was just a spoon august.

1546
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 2: See it's an augur that's just got the it doesn't

1547
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 2: have the late. Yeah, it's just got like a spoon on.

1548
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 7: It, and you turn it and it takes you don't

1549
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 7: drill a whole lot hole? Is this after you came

1550
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 7: home from school with the dog sled? But anyway, so

1551
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 7: I had grown up on the lake.

1552
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 2: Last summer, something something hit me that I was really

1553
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 2: really upset about. And I've groused about this pontoon that

1554
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 2: I have now, and that has its place, but when

1555
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 2: the kids come up, the pontoon is really important because

1556
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 2: the little guys and girls go out on it too.

1557
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 2: So last year one day. It was on Saturday afternoon.

1558
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 2: I think they were going to go for a ride.

1559
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 2: They all got in it. Everybody's wearing life jackets. Not

1560
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 2: the adults, but the kids are. Life jackets are out

1561
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 2: and they're on the floor and the thorobulls out there.

1562
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 2: They're going down the lake. Well there's a boat and

1563
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, I think it lives on the lake,

1564
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 2: but I hadn't.

1565
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 3: Seen it before. It was a wake boat.

1566
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:33,759
Speaker 2: Okay, so they were gone, No, they were up ahead

1567
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 2: of ways, but they were I mean they talked wake boats. Yeah,

1568
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 2: they were up ahead of the pontoon, I guess. And

1569
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 2: so they went and Eric was driving and Chad was

1570
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 2: sitting in the front and he saw the swell coming

1571
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 2: slowed down. They went over it slow. The wake was

1572
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 2: so high that the do they nosed into the water.

1573
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:04,679
Speaker 2: Chad was diving for the back. They put three feet

1574
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 2: of water instantly in that pontoon. The kids, Chad knocked

1575
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 2: the adults down, a couple of them down on the floor.

1576
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 2: Chad got part way back and that's as far as

1577
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 2: he got. The kids were scared to jet. Nothing happened,

1578
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 2: and the wakeboat just kept right on going. I would

1579
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 2: have been a little twelve foot boat. I would have

1580
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 2: swamped it. It would have gone down, I mean, and

1581
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:35,560
Speaker 2: people that aren't aware.

1582
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 3: Of it too.

1583
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 2: There's no room for that, not in a lake that size.

1584
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 2: I just say, I have a real bitter taste in

1585
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 2: my mouth. And you can say what you want. Having

1586
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 2: a right to be out there, yeah they do. It's

1587
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 2: public waters, but you also have a right to be

1588
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 2: safe on the water too. And there's a lot of

1589
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 2: other users out there, and I wish they've done studies

1590
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 2: at the bottom gets churned up. Most of Soccer Lake

1591
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 2: is you know, ten twelve feet and you get the

1592
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 2: lower lake. It doesn't get any deeper in about ten feet.

1593
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,600
Speaker 2: I just think that as far as my experience in

1594
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, that's when I don't want to repeat.

1595
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 2: What do you think the solution is for weakeboats, because

1596
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 2: it's I mean, they need to identify some bodies of

1597
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 2: water that will accept them and do and let them

1598
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 2: be there and prevent usage on lakes of a certain size, yeah,

1599
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 2: I mean, and also determined disrupting the bottom. That's where

1600
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 2: a lot of the pollutants end up. A lot of

1601
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 2: it ends up in the in the mud and down

1602
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 2: in that they and they they've determined. The University of

1603
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 2: Minnesota's done the studies and you can find the results,

1604
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure online.

1605
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 3: I've read them.

1606
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 2: But the associations and it's all about selling stuff too.

1607
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 2: They're popular and to a certain point, and I don't

1608
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 2: know what they answer is. I don't know if there

1609
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 2: is an answer, but identify bodies of water that are larger.

1610
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 2: And I watched I watched wakes of other boats that

1611
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 2: come by the lake, and they dissipate fairly fast, and

1612
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 2: to point your head, they'll point your fingers at a

1613
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 2: basketboat going by lickety split. And if you look on

1614
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 2: the back of a basket boat, there's not much wake

1615
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:26,600
Speaker 2: at all. Even the runabouts, there's not a there's not

1616
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 2: a wake.

1617
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 3: It begins to compare. I don't know, but that's just

1618
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 3: that's all right. So that's that's on the negative side

1619
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 3: of the column. What and when you look back the year,

1620
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 3: that was what's on the captain's positive side of fishing?

1621
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 2: Love to fish and I learned I've gotten to enjoy

1622
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 2: fishing a great deal, bass fishing and walleye fishing.

1623
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 3: What was your high point for fishing season last year,

1624
01:21:55,760 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 3: Oh my take taking Danny Fletcher fishing, Danny Flesher. I

1625
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 3: was thinking it was going to be Jack and the kids.

1626
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 3: He was taking the guy that owns a bait chatfish.

1627
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 2: Took him fishing and put him on some crank baits.

1628
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 3: Huh And were they purple? No? They were they? Actually

1629
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 3: they weren't. They weren't.

1630
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 2: No, And he made me promise that I wouldn't tell

1631
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 2: anybody that the bait guy was using an artificial bait.

1632
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 3: And here you are telling everybody.

1633
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 2: We got out there and we left the dock and

1634
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,680
Speaker 2: he said he had brand new fresh mintos, brand new.

1635
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,560
Speaker 2: And he got in the boat and I untied it

1636
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 2: and we're going out and he said, well, what are

1637
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 2: we going to do? I said, well, I know what

1638
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 2: you're going to do. No, he says, what are you

1639
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 2: going to do? And I said, I'm going to throw

1640
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 2: a crank bait. And we got up and I had

1641
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 2: a couple of rods with the cranks on it. Handed

1642
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 2: him a rod and he said, well, I've never done this.

1643
01:22:58,920 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 4: What do I do?

1644
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 3: You cast it out, you reel it in, you pause,

1645
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 3: you reel it in.

1646
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 2: You might jerk it a little bit twitch it, and

1647
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 2: when something grabs it, you don't have to yank on it.

1648
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 2: You just sweep your rod back and be careful. It's

1649
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 2: four pound line, four pound line. And all of a sudden, Hey,

1650
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 2: I got one. Did you grow up with Denny? He's

1651
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 2: a year younger than I am. Oh, so pretty darn clothes.

1652
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 3: Yeah? Did you guys like go fishing together and do

1653
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 3: stuff as kids?

1654
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 7: No?

1655
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 2: He pretty much worked this whole life, and we knew

1656
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 2: each other from forever and we just got to be

1657
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 2: really good friends.

1658
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 3: So when a guy who owns a bait chep says,

1659
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 3: what do I do with this craik bait? Was he joking? No? No,

1660
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 3: he had never fished it. He'd always lived on live bait. Really.

1661
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 2: In fact, I told him when we well left, I

1662
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 2: can't be out too long because I have to meet

1663
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 2: some people for dinner.

1664
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 3: And it was getting time. We were out a couple

1665
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 3: hours and we had caught a bunch of He had

1666
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 3: caught a bunch of fish, and I was just having

1667
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 3: a I was really fun.

1668
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I said, Daddy, we're gonna have to go.

1669
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 3: I don't want to go fun.

1670
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 2: No, it was that was a real high point that

1671
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 2: that's great and the pheasant hunting this last year was awesome,

1672
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 2: just awesome.

1673
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 3: I didn't expect that in your young pop and I

1674
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 3: had an opportunity to show her stuff alone this year,

1675
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 3: you know, and she succeeded and she did well. How

1676
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 3: about you. You know, we haven't got much time love.

1677
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 3: I had a great spring turkey season when as my

1678
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 3: brother and nephew came visit. And I haven't had a

1679
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 3: lot of, you know, opportunities to hunt and fish with

1680
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 3: them over the last few years because they live in

1681
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 3: different places and got to spend a long weekend with them.

1682
01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 3: And you know, it's not all about but when success

1683
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 3: comes on top of spending time together, it's awfully sweet

1684
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:07,719
Speaker 3: and you measure it different ways.

1685
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 2: And I think when you get to a certain age

1686
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:15,839
Speaker 2: you can revel in the successes of others, and especially

1687
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 2: when you create that success for them, and it's it's

1688
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 2: really pretty special.

1689
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do very much enjoy that.

1690
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 2: And looking ahead, well, I don't know, we'll find out.

1691
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty six Pheasant Fest a couple weeks off, Yes,

1692
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:37,640
Speaker 3: got that to focus some attention on. Yeah, we will too,

1693
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 3: we will, and that's going to be really fun. And

1694
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 3: I know that my whole family is all excited about.

1695
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 3: They really are. It's a little easier when it's in town.

1696
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 3: It's a much easier for you, I'm sure. Yeah it

1697
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 3: is for me. Home game, Yeah it is. And the

1698
01:25:55,439 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 3: little ones come. That's really really fun. Yeah, the little

1699
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:01,799
Speaker 3: one coming, so to speak.

1700
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 2: Hey, the music is playing, which means it's time for

1701
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 2: end the zone and keep it right here.

1702
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 3: Okay.

1703
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 2: You are going to enjoy Davy Sinecon and Trent Tucker

1704
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 2: because their conversations are usually right on the money, except

1705
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 2: for the packer tack. I want to say thank you

1706
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 2: to Jared Houston for joining us and also Joe Henry,

1707
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 2: but thank you for allowing Bob, I and Brett to

1708
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 2: travel with you this morning.

1709
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Speaker 3: For Brett Blakemore, my.

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Speaker 2: Executive producer for Bob, Saint Pierre, my very good friend,

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Speaker 2: and back I'm Billy Hildebrand. Wishing you a fabulous weekend.

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Speaker 2: Until next week, I'll leave you with two thoughts, Tata