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Speaker 2: to fourteen victory over the Arizona Cardinals like a wrecking ball.
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Speaker 2: We know what the naysayers are thinking, that this is
Speaker 2: another meaningless victory against a bad team, But what it
Speaker 2: says to me is it's a reminder of what might
Speaker 2: have been, what could have been, and hopefully what will
Speaker 2: be in twenty twenty six for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 4: WHENSDA and I easy to come by, check correct And
Speaker 4: these last two weeks have been pretty amazing. And yea, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, I understand what nay sayers are saying, and
Speaker 4: I understand the reason behind it. But the growth of
Speaker 4: the defense over the last several weeks has got to
Speaker 4: be exciting for fans to see that they're they're getting
Speaker 4: better and got to be encouraged by that because it's happening. Yes,
Speaker 4: but did you realize even though okay, they had seven
Speaker 4: straight losses the Arizona Cardinals, they also had the seventh
Speaker 4: best passing passing team in the league. McBride is a
Speaker 4: great player, Wilson is a really nice player. They've got
Speaker 4: Harrison out on you know house Daves Harrison out there,
Speaker 4: and yet they threw for just the set through for
Speaker 4: just over two hundred yards. Their offense has actually played
Speaker 4: better offensively since he took over. Now, their defense has
Speaker 4: not played well, So that's why they lost seven in
Speaker 4: a row. However, ninety two of those came on the
Speaker 4: last drive with almost all second teamers in and that
Speaker 4: took him fifteen fifteen plays to get there.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Yes, the Bengals improved to six and ten.
Speaker 2: It's their second two game winning streak of the season.
Speaker 2: The first two games of the season were victories and
Speaker 2: Arizona falls. Wow, three and thirteen, eight straight losses. They've
Speaker 2: played over eighty players this year, just decimated by injuries.
Speaker 4: And that amazing when it kind of snowballs. So with
Speaker 4: injuries and it seems like it starts happening and you
Speaker 4: start losing, and obviously there's more injuries, and it's just
Speaker 4: it's something you can't you can't, you can't stop, and
Speaker 4: you hope you can find somebody along the way. Of
Speaker 4: those eighty players, maybe they found somebody that can help
Speaker 4: him next year, because right now, obviously I'm in there
Speaker 4: an eight game losing streak, and it's that fun going
Speaker 4: to work.
Speaker 2: A little bit of revenge here against Jacoby Brissett because
Speaker 2: he was the quarterback for the New England Patriots last
Speaker 2: year in that opening game.
Speaker 3: The Bengals had no business losing.
Speaker 4: Mean that preseason game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, kid, But he's beaten the Bengals a couple times.
Speaker 4: Well, he's played with enough teams, he's had enough opportunity.
Speaker 2: He sure has, he sure has. But we are spoiled
Speaker 2: by Joe Burrow. There's no doubt about it. Zach Taylor,
Speaker 2: head coach, talked about it after the game. His ability
Speaker 2: to diagnose, especially on third down and get the ball
Speaker 2: to the right player just incredible. Twenty four of thirty
Speaker 2: one passing three hundred and five yards. He did get
Speaker 2: Zack three times, but two touchdowns a long game of
Speaker 2: thirty nine yards to tee a passer.
Speaker 3: Rating of one twenty nine point one. We love Joe Burrow.
Speaker 4: He gets everybody today, particularly guy they're they're you know,
Speaker 4: Chase has sixty yards and that's the most and he
Speaker 4: goes over three hundred yards. So that's amazing to get
Speaker 4: that many guys that many yards. But the one thing
Speaker 4: I was down there, it was so windy. Yes, the
Speaker 4: goalposts were swaying back and forth. And to throw the
Speaker 4: ball that as accurately as accurately as he did was
Speaker 4: amazing because this was a tough day to throw the ball.
Speaker 2: And that was probably one of the reasons why Evan
Speaker 2: McPherson uh missed a uh missed an extra point.
Speaker 3: Possibly he yanked it left.
Speaker 4: He pulled it, pulled it, yeah, And I think it's
Speaker 4: because he pulled it, yes, But but the end was
Speaker 4: a could have been a factor because it really was
Speaker 4: extremely windy. Uh. And that's throwing the ball. Kicking the ball.
Speaker 4: Wind is the biggest factor, more so than even the cold.
Speaker 3: And Evin did make a fifty seven.
Speaker 4: He did make a fifty seven yard making it look
Speaker 4: he's kicked the ball beautifully this year. He's had a really,
Speaker 4: really great season.
Speaker 3: Just some phenomenal things happen in this game.
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase catches two touchdown passes and he reaches the
Speaker 2: end zone for the first time since October sixteen. Jim, unbelievable.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize he hadn't seen the end zone in
Speaker 2: that long. How about Cody Ford. Happy twenty ninth birthday
Speaker 2: to Cody Ford. He lines up as a full back
Speaker 2: and a wide receiver. He's a three hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: pound offensive tackle and guard, and he winds up catching
Speaker 2: and rumbling twenty one yards. Had set up a touchdown
Speaker 2: run by Chase Brown. So incredible.
Speaker 4: I was going for he was going for the end zone, Yes.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 4: He would have done anything to get in the end zone.
Speaker 3: He absolutely would have.
Speaker 2: And finally, rookie defensive end Shamar Stewart generates his first
Speaker 2: sack of the sea. So he lifts his arms to
Speaker 2: the heavens. It finally happened.
Speaker 4: So just a lot of Miles Murphy. He had a
Speaker 4: nice stack he did. Yes, Okay, I give a lot
Speaker 4: of credit to the defensive backfield because a few of
Speaker 4: those recovered sacks. Yes, but they just kept going, keep going,
Speaker 4: and keep going, and they kept closing in and finally
Speaker 4: they came up with the sacks and it was really
Speaker 4: impressive defense. I mean two our thirty three yards all
Speaker 4: day too. Phenomenal defensive effort.
Speaker 2: Today, and people are going to want to know, Jim,
Speaker 2: what's this all about.
Speaker 3: Uh, you want to finish the year strong.
Speaker 2: Like you mentioned, no, victory is easy to come by
Speaker 2: in the National Football League. The Cleveland Browns come in
Speaker 2: here next week after upsetting the Pittsburgh Steelers today. Oh,
Speaker 2: we feel bad about that though, Oh I know, Brown's
Speaker 2: always played the Steelers tough. And then next week in
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh the Ravens and the Steelers with a winner take
Speaker 2: off for the AFC North and a trip to the postseason.
Speaker 4: Yeah. This is the thing that makes it disappointing the
Speaker 4: way the season is gone. The division was very gettable,
Speaker 4: The conference is very gettable this year. I think in
Speaker 4: Jacksonville right now, probably playing as well as anybody. I'm
Speaker 4: going into Denver last week and putting it on Denver
Speaker 4: pretty well. So it was it's just not a good
Speaker 4: season where they we just couldn't get their defense together.
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Speaker 2: And here I keep bugging Jim Breach while he's trying
Speaker 2: to eat his It looks like an awesome Caesar salad there, Jim.
Speaker 4: It's a Southwest salad.
Speaker 2: Southwest salad, all right, fantastic with to be specific with
Speaker 2: potato wedges. Oh yeah, fantastic, really good guys, I got.
Speaker 3: Friends here tonight.
Speaker 2: Outstanding Susan Richardson, Nancy Christophoe and her daughter Man fantastic.
Speaker 2: Appreciate everybody coming out. And we've got Pat in Redding. Pat,
Speaker 2: you've got to lead us off again.
Speaker 3: Bring it to a.
Speaker 4: Strong Pat All.
Speaker 5: Well, Look, it was great to have He's in a
Speaker 5: row where you could actually relax in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 5: It's been an awfu way long time. The offense played great,
Speaker 5: the defense was very good. Now you look back at
Speaker 5: the Jets, Bear, New England and Buffalo games, especially the
Speaker 5: Jets and the Bears, and you wonder.
Speaker 6: What the season would have been like if we had.
Speaker 5: Only an average defense. Now you're gonna call me home fayer,
Speaker 5: You're gonna call me an a sayer. But if we
Speaker 5: have this good ending and Mike Brown has another excuse
Speaker 5: to do nothing about the coaching or the drafting, you know,
Speaker 5: and if you want to call me an a sayer,
Speaker 5: I'm going to ask you to want both Zach and
Speaker 5: Duke Cobn back in charge of the Bengals next year.
Speaker 2: Jim, I don't see any changes in the coaching staff.
Speaker 2: I really don't, at least Zach Taylor. Okay, there might
Speaker 2: be an assistant move on whatever, But I see the
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator and the offensive coordinator both coming back here
Speaker 2: next year. This club needs more protection for Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: Orlando Brown. I believe the left offensive tackle has one
Speaker 2: year left.
Speaker 3: You could look at.
Speaker 2: That position and we can't be naive enough to think
Speaker 2: just because we've seen some defensive improvement that that unit
Speaker 2: is going to be okay.
Speaker 3: No, it needs an overhaul.
Speaker 2: You need defensive linemen, you need linebackers, and you need
Speaker 2: safeties and corners. You can't have enough of defense. They're
Speaker 2: going to add to that unit. There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 3: Jim Breach.
Speaker 4: True, you know, I think particularly the defensive line, if
Speaker 4: you can if you can get penetration, if you can
Speaker 4: get up the field, getting quarterbacks faces, it makes the linebackers,
Speaker 4: defensive backs their their job becomes much easier in terms
Speaker 4: of trying to cover somebody, how quickly the ball comes out,
Speaker 4: all those things. But over the last several games, yes,
Speaker 4: they have improved dramatically, and there's some people playing really well.
Speaker 4: DJ Turner dex Hill has come on, played really well.
Speaker 4: Jayalen Davis going into the slot has played really well.
Speaker 4: Jordan Battle has played well. Gino Stone did another one
Speaker 4: of those houdinny things on Wilson down the sideline and
Speaker 4: completely whipped on the guy. The same thing he did
Speaker 4: the Lovelin and the Bear game. Now, you can't tell
Speaker 4: me they're not in the locker room the what IFFs.
Speaker 4: I guarantee you there. And they're thinking, oh my gosh,
Speaker 4: that's the you know, the Bears those games, I mean,
Speaker 4: we'd have a shot and the other I mean, it's
Speaker 4: it's frustrating to have things like that happen in games
Speaker 4: you have under control. And Baltimore, I mean Buffalo, they're
Speaker 4: up double digits at all three of those games in
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter and that is unbelievably frustrating. They had
Speaker 4: the same problem last year. It has improved. It has improved,
Speaker 4: Miles Murphy has improved. Yes, they need some help in
Speaker 4: the middle of the defense. In that you know, Slayton
Speaker 4: did a nice job today. He had a sack. You've
Speaker 4: got to control that middle. If you can control that medal,
Speaker 4: it can help these young guy, the guys on the
Speaker 4: outside get up the field. And yeah, they can't. They
Speaker 4: can't sit on their hands and whether yeah, I think
Speaker 4: they gotta make a decision with is Duke Tobin the guy,
Speaker 4: and I give him some credit on the If you
Speaker 4: look back to the twenty twenty three draft, Miles Murphy
Speaker 4: now is coming on. DJ Turner was in that draft.
Speaker 4: There's some there's some good players that came out of
Speaker 4: that draft that they could build on. But for the
Speaker 4: most part the last several years, the drafts have not
Speaker 4: been great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we understand it.
Speaker 5: I asked you a question about a meaningful game this week,
Speaker 5: which is Ohio STATEOT.
Speaker 2: I'm worried as an Ohio State Buckeye fan. They are
Speaker 2: a notoriously slow starting team. Teams have even though they've
Speaker 2: got a great defense, teams have run on them, including
Speaker 2: Michigan early in that game. Miami's got a lightning quick
Speaker 2: defensive line and the turning The biggest question in that
Speaker 2: game is Ohio State's offensive line.
Speaker 3: If they can hold up and protect.
Speaker 2: Julian Saying and create running space for Bo Jackson and
Speaker 2: their young running backs, I'll feel good. But the defensive
Speaker 2: ends Ruben Bain Junior and Akeem Mesador are are awesome,
Speaker 2: and Miami's playing with house mind. They're playing with house money.
Speaker 2: No one expected them to be here. Ohio State, the
Speaker 2: pressures on the Buckeyes, so nothing will shock me. I'm
Speaker 2: stunned that it's a nine and a half point Ohio
Speaker 2: State favored by I'm just stunned by that.
Speaker 5: Are they going to do anything to change the fact
Speaker 5: that they have to wait so long to play their
Speaker 5: first playoff game?
Speaker 6: That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: It's uh, it seems like forever.
Speaker 4: Well, it's just like if you we're playing in the
Speaker 4: rose ball, you would have that time off.
Speaker 3: So it is a good couple of weeks.
Speaker 4: And it's not like the first time they've ever had
Speaker 4: to do it. That's right, if you only did it
Speaker 4: for the first time trying to figure out what to
Speaker 4: do during that period.
Speaker 2: Pat, I hope you'll continue to listen because before we're
Speaker 2: off the air tonight, we Jim Breach and I are
Speaker 2: going to discuss the NFL versus the college football with
Speaker 2: viewership on TV. We're going to talk about that because yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: something has to something needs to change. It really does,
Speaker 2: because the NFL is going to steamroll you no matter
Speaker 2: who you are on television. So we're going to talk
Speaker 2: about that before we get off the air today. But
Speaker 2: thank you so much, Pat, all right, appreciate it, and
Speaker 2: do we have Bryson and Anderson. Yes you do, all right, Bryson,
Speaker 2: the next, the next, Lance McAllister right here, Bryceon.
Speaker 5: Well, thank you. And a lot of fans they've been saying, oh,
Speaker 5: it's it's just the Cardinals are a horrible team.
Speaker 7: But they did a lot of things right.
Speaker 5: Even if the Cardinals didn't have guys like Kyler Murray
Speaker 5: or Trade Benson. But in any league alone, Lettle of
Speaker 5: the NFL, will win is a win and it's toughly
Speaker 5: gonna win in the NFL. They made the Cardinals one dimensional.
Speaker 8: The big screw was actually cooking with Jamar and they
Speaker 8: were getting open in space.
Speaker 2: And when you can run the ball like Chase Brown
Speaker 2: did today, run and catch the ball, Wow, it just
Speaker 2: makes a quarterbacks job much easier when you're when you're
Speaker 2: running the ball.
Speaker 4: I would say the Cardinals offense is better with Jakobe
Speaker 4: Burssett running it than with Kyler Murray. Their offense has
Speaker 4: been much better after Murray went out, and he has
Speaker 4: struggled the last several years. He has he has moments right,
Speaker 4: and the guys i't believe he's incredibly talented. But Brissett
Speaker 4: runs the offense the way it was intended to be
Speaker 4: run and they've over up until this week, really moved
Speaker 4: the ball through the through the air. They've thrown the
Speaker 4: ball really well. The Bengals just shut him down in
Speaker 4: all phases today.
Speaker 2: There were Buckeyes all over that field for the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 2: I was kind of found myself kind of pulling for him.
Speaker 2: Cody Simon was was incredible. And uh, hey, Marvin Harrison
Speaker 2: Junior has been fighting with a heel injury. He's just
Speaker 2: a shell of himself right now.
Speaker 4: So you're a wide receiver and your feet hurt. Oh,
Speaker 4: that's trouble.
Speaker 2: It's real, it really is, all right, Bryce, and I
Speaker 2: want to wish you and your family a very happy
Speaker 2: New Year you j J.
Speaker 4: Thanks Bryson, thanks so much.
Speaker 2: And we've got time to go down to beautiful Central
Speaker 2: Kentucky to Lexington.
Speaker 4: Is this Tiffany?
Speaker 9: Hey Tiffany, Hello, Hello, long time day nights older and
Speaker 9: a listener, so.
Speaker 8: Thank you for taking my call. By I do have
Speaker 8: a question with our young guys that seem to have
Speaker 8: come up a little bit with the defense. They're getting better.
Speaker 8: What do you do with Trey Henderson? Now that's my question,
Speaker 8: what do you do with Tray.
Speaker 2: You know, I would offer him a contract, but nothing
Speaker 2: nowhere near what he made this year. He fleeced him
Speaker 2: for thirteen more million dollars to what twenty nine million? Okay,
Speaker 2: So I would offer him ten or eleven million and
Speaker 2: take it or leave it someone else.
Speaker 3: Let someone else pay you.
Speaker 2: So he's working right now on getting healthy for his
Speaker 2: next contract. He's out for the rest of the year
Speaker 2: with a variety of injuries.
Speaker 4: But all right, that's going to be the difficult part.
Speaker 4: Are these guys on the outside Osai, who's out, Miles Murphy,
Speaker 4: Cedric sat Cam sample. Have those guys make made enough
Speaker 4: of a jump that you can discount what Trey Hendricks
Speaker 4: it brings to the table. You know, Trey goes through,
Speaker 4: he gets hurt. TJ. Watt goes to the same thing.
Speaker 4: He gets he gets a nice, a great contract, and
Speaker 4: he gets hurt. And they're both in their early thirties.
Speaker 4: How does that look? How is that viewed? Trey hasn't
Speaker 4: really he's played over the years he's been out there. Uh,
Speaker 4: this was an injury that obviously it just wouldn't heal.
Speaker 4: But that's good. That's gonna be the biggest decision defensively
Speaker 4: because that frees up if he doesn't come back, that
Speaker 4: freezes a lot of money. What do you do with
Speaker 4: that money?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Do you you get it? I think you have to
Speaker 4: do something with DJ Turner before it gets too expensive.
Speaker 4: You know, some of these young guys that are showing
Speaker 4: that they can really play, don't wait until they hit
Speaker 4: their their last year and don't pay them like changing
Speaker 4: all these other guys. They wait and wait and wait,
Speaker 4: and then they get more and more expensive. Get them
Speaker 4: while they're they're cheaper, and that we can free up
Speaker 4: money for a free agent, couple of free agencies. You know,
Speaker 4: guys in free agency, it's that's always the tough part.
Speaker 2: Of it is a tough decision here that they're gonna
Speaker 2: have to make. I I believe they will offer a
Speaker 2: great uh a contract. It's not going to be a
Speaker 2: three or a four year deal, maybe a two.
Speaker 8: But what a frankchiz tag?
Speaker 5: Could I do it for you?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Hey, we'll address that, Tiffany when we come back. We've
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Speaker 3: He's Jim breached. This is Chick Ludwig.
Speaker 2: We're breaking down the Bengals thirty seven to fourteen victory
Speaker 2: over the Arizona Cardinals like a wrecking ball Jim. Last
Speaker 2: week it was forty five to twenty one over the
Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins. This week thirty seven to fourteen. Man with
Speaker 2: this offense is click and it is special.
Speaker 4: It really is. It's as good as there is in
Speaker 4: the league. And lately it's really think about him off again,
Speaker 4: shut out, correct and then done pretty well since the
Speaker 4: last two weeks.
Speaker 3: No doubt.
Speaker 4: It just shows that the team you do play doesn't
Speaker 4: matter who your opponent.
Speaker 3: Is, no doubt about that.
Speaker 2: And let's review the delivery of the game brought to
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Speaker 2: thirteen yard pass to Jamar Chase to get the Bengals
Speaker 2: on the board at the nine to seventeen mark of
Speaker 2: the first quarter.
Speaker 3: It was just amazing. Uh, Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2: Stiff arms the guy, breaks the tackle near the sideline,
Speaker 2: then he breaks another tackle, spins, dives into the end
Speaker 2: zone just and then he folds his hands in prayer
Speaker 2: to a higher power. He finally got into the end
Speaker 2: zone for the first time since October sixteenth, So that.
Speaker 3: Is the delivery of the game. It was just a phenomenal.
Speaker 2: Pass and catch and uh, what a route to get
Speaker 2: into that engine.
Speaker 4: It was unbelievable. And he became the first player in
Speaker 4: NFL history with eighty catches, one thousand yards and seven
Speaker 4: touchdowns in their first five seasons. Just uh, every time
Speaker 4: you catch a touchdown pass or adds to a reception,
Speaker 4: and he's putting a record on the boards, you know,
Speaker 4: and there yardage is only short of Justin Jefferson, but
Speaker 4: he's been closing the gap each year. Former teammate of
Speaker 4: his a l You think they were pretty good with
Speaker 4: a decent quarterback.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Joe Burrow and the cigar at the Superdome. Wow, Hey,
Speaker 2: let's go back out to the phones. Do we have
Speaker 2: Rick and Alexandria? And how about Brandon in Indianapolis? Our
Speaker 2: good friend Brandon.
Speaker 10: Hey, chik, Jim, how are you guys doing?
Speaker 3: Fantastic? And Brandon? Happy New Year.
Speaker 10: Happ happening year to you guys too. You know you
Speaker 10: guys were talking about earlier. You know how the NFL
Speaker 10: has been a steamroll college football. It's like the NDA
Speaker 10: was on Christmas too, And I know those were some
Speaker 10: lousy NFL games. I don't know, they turned out pretty good,
Speaker 10: but I mean, I don't. I just love the NFL.
Speaker 11: I don't.
Speaker 10: I know, you guys to it over any of them
Speaker 10: because it's once a week. It's just it's just wonderful,
Speaker 10: you know. I just I think I think I'm interested
Speaker 10: to shoot here what you guys have to say later
Speaker 10: about that, because you know, okay.
Speaker 3: Can it's more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's once a week for a team, but
Speaker 2: it's twice twice a week for some teams. And uh,
Speaker 2: the NFL wants to play every night of the week.
Speaker 4: So baseball basketball are fairly regional. Your team is in
Speaker 4: your locale, you know, the Reds are big here. The
Speaker 4: NFL is national. Every it seems like everybody is part
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 3: Internet.
Speaker 4: Yes, last year of the top one hundred programs ratings wise,
Speaker 4: ninety three were NFL football games. Yeah, ninety three of
Speaker 4: the top one hundred.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, the sponsor, the uh, the advertising, it's just uh,
Speaker 2: it's a monster.
Speaker 4: It's amazing, it really is.
Speaker 10: It's just it's just hard to you know, it's just
Speaker 10: hard to overcome it. But you know, and I know
Speaker 10: you were talking about this to Jim, and we talked
Speaker 10: about last week about Burrough playing, and I'm glad they're
Speaker 10: doing well and I and I understand what you guys
Speaker 10: are saying, but darn, I mean, we're talking about games
Speaker 10: that don't mean anything, and I but I know it's
Speaker 10: nice to win them. And but I'm just afraid.
Speaker 12: I know Mike Browning.
Speaker 10: Company doesn't make changes very easily, So I'm.
Speaker 13: Kind of afraid.
Speaker 10: You're probably right, chick, that Zach's gonna stay next year.
Speaker 10: But I just think you still got to, girlie, and
Speaker 10: I know you guys do because you were talking about it.
Speaker 11: They still got to make some changes.
Speaker 10: They still got to make changes, and I hope, I
Speaker 10: just hope they'll say, well, we want our.
Speaker 4: Last three games wide.
Speaker 10: We can do this, you know, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 10: you got to make sure.
Speaker 2: Branded, all bets are off, all bets are off.
Speaker 3: If they start slow next.
Speaker 2: Year, it will be absolute armageddon in Cincinnati. There will
Speaker 2: be a house cleaning if they start slow next year.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that happens. Ever happened in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: What that's what's upset Joe you with his talent and
Speaker 2: his success in his career, to go three consecutive years
Speaker 2: without the playoffs?
Speaker 3: You tell me he's not frustrated.
Speaker 2: And if there would be a four straight year, oh,
Speaker 2: it's gonna get ugly.
Speaker 4: However, you have.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
Speaker 10: I was just gonna say, and you know, Jim, because
Speaker 10: I remember I was talking to you about you know,
Speaker 10: I don't understand why they're playing him, and you're right,
Speaker 10: he wants to play and he should. I mean, injuries
Speaker 10: can happen anytime. But I just I mean, I'm I
Speaker 10: were winning, but it's you know that I sit and
Speaker 10: think to myself, It's like, but does this mean that
Speaker 10: Katie and the guys involved are I'm not going to
Speaker 10: make changes.
Speaker 14: I mean probably not.
Speaker 10: I just think that after a while, the coaches and stuff.
Speaker 6: It's kind of like, you.
Speaker 10: Know, if a marriage doesn't work out anymore, it's just
Speaker 10: got us to say this isn't working.
Speaker 13: We need a new voice.
Speaker 10: I'm not saying it's all VA's fault.
Speaker 15: I think some of it.
Speaker 10: Is, but but they haven't drafted right in a few years,
Speaker 10: I don't think, and it is some things we could
Speaker 10: just they just need to make changes.
Speaker 4: On my thoughts, well, I don't continuity is a big deal,
Speaker 4: and this offense runs at a pretty high level. And
Speaker 4: I don't know, why do you want to get rid
Speaker 4: of Zac And now you're going to start over with
Speaker 4: the brand new offense that everybody has to learn. When
Speaker 4: you have one of the best going, the guy guys
Speaker 4: play for him. However, they have not done a good
Speaker 4: job of finding the talent. And it's harder now with
Speaker 4: having to pay Burrow, pay Chase, pay Higgins, you paid Hendrickson,
Speaker 4: you paid just Sicky. He had all these guys on
Speaker 4: offense except for Hendon, and we don't know what's gonna
Speaker 4: happen with Hendrickson. So now you have to do a
Speaker 4: phenomenal job of drafting. On the defensive side. DJ Turror
Speaker 4: looks like a really good player, Dax Hill is really
Speaker 4: coming on, Battles coming on Miles Murphy possibly. But every
Speaker 4: draft you're going to have to hit on those young
Speaker 4: guys on defense. And if you miss in a couple drafts,
Speaker 4: which they have previously, sets you back, sets you back
Speaker 4: big time, and you end up with the defense it
Speaker 4: really struggles. And I don't know that changing the defensive
Speaker 4: coaching makes any sense either, because they seem to finally
Speaker 4: getting a feel for what they're doing on the defensive side.
Speaker 4: You do you start it all over again and go
Speaker 4: through a half season of them starting to figure it
Speaker 4: out again.
Speaker 2: All right, appreciate the call as always, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Happy New Year to Brandon. Hey, we've got to take
Speaker 2: a break. We'll come back with more. He's Jim Breach.
Speaker 2: This is Chick Ludwig. You are listening to the Trice
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Speaker 2: by RNL Carriers. This is Chick Ludwig. I'm alongside Jim Breach.
Speaker 2: We are live at Wings and Rings, Beckett Ridge, forty
Speaker 2: seven eighty two Plumb Square in Westchester. We're here till
Speaker 2: eight thirty tonight, and we appreciate all the callers and
Speaker 2: all the folks here in attendance. Let's go out to
Speaker 2: the phones as we continue to discuss the bengals thirty
Speaker 2: seven to fourteen victory over the Arizona Cardinals today Matt
Speaker 2: in Springfield, Matt, how are.
Speaker 3: You, hey?
Speaker 11: What's going on?
Speaker 13: As always?
Speaker 3: Chick all right, Matt Hey, Matt Hey, yeah.
Speaker 16: Good talk YouTube Jim, Yeah, man, that's a good one today.
Speaker 16: You know, the defense has actually been stepping up for
Speaker 16: you know, since what the still has Jim that one
Speaker 16: last st game, that defensive showed improvement. So you know,
Speaker 16: maybe that's something to build on for the next season.
Speaker 16: You know, hopefully we can get back to things because
Speaker 16: I mean, I mean this team is five and two
Speaker 16: with Burrow starting, So what could have been?
Speaker 4: You know, if Burrow did not.
Speaker 16: Get hurt, especially with how bad the AFT Mors looks
Speaker 16: this year. I mean the BFC North A nine and
Speaker 16: eighteen is gonna win the division. So I mean, again,
Speaker 16: what could have been if you know, Burrow was healthy.
Speaker 16: It just this sucks. This this season was the Bengals
Speaker 16: for the taking, and it just what could have been? Man,
Speaker 16: they look unstoppable when they're all healthy. You cannot stop
Speaker 16: that three yoh Man, t Jamala and Burrow Man when
Speaker 16: they're firing.
Speaker 11: On all cylinders.
Speaker 4: It really is a thing to well.
Speaker 2: When we go back, yeah, we go back to the
Speaker 2: Jets and the Bears games coming off a big win
Speaker 2: over Pittsburgh, you know on a Thursday night, and those
Speaker 2: two games that just killed this club.
Speaker 4: And the Buffalo game, yes, when they were starting to
Speaker 4: play better defensively, Josh Allen just tore him up.
Speaker 3: He did, yes.
Speaker 4: Again in both in all three of those games, gave
Speaker 4: up fourth quarter leads. And that's that's the one thing
Speaker 4: you have to be able to close it out. I'm
Speaker 4: as we're sitting here, I was watching a little bit
Speaker 4: of Philadelphia's defensive line. Oh my gosh, they're harassing Josh
Speaker 4: Allen every time he throws. And again, if you get
Speaker 4: in the quarterback, I don't care who the quarterback is.
Speaker 4: If you're pushing, if you're getting back into his face
Speaker 4: and he can't step up into his throws, he becomes
Speaker 4: average Joe at that point.
Speaker 3: That's it. That's right.
Speaker 2: And we saw back to back sacks against Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: today on their gosh, get him blocked, run the football
Speaker 2: and stop the rush.
Speaker 4: I was thinking of, yes, yes.
Speaker 11: All right, I'll be done. Then I said, who there, guys, all.
Speaker 3: Right, thanks so much of Jim. Jim reach right here
Speaker 3: is correct.
Speaker 2: You look at Philadelphia, wave after wave of great players
Speaker 2: up front.
Speaker 4: And that's I wasn't talking necessarily what the other team did.
Speaker 4: They You can't neutralize the quarterback, right. What I'm saying
Speaker 4: is they typically bring it, and by bringing it, they're up,
Speaker 4: they're up the field, and they're making it hard on
Speaker 4: every quarterback to throw the ball successfully. Especially their defense
Speaker 4: is getting healthier there. And you know, you see that
Speaker 4: and you think you see what's possible.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, hey, let us get a push. Is George
Speaker 3: in Green Hills with us?
Speaker 15: What's up?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 4: G oh hey, George lay it on us?
Speaker 15: Whod okay guys?
Speaker 3: Yes, sir?
Speaker 15: Well, First of all, guys, great team win today. So
Speaker 15: much fun to see them all clicking at the same time.
Speaker 15: But I am so excited. I am so excited for
Speaker 15: next year. Defensively, I think we need to resign right
Speaker 15: now that Toil Turner, Battle Dixon. Get those guys all resigned,
Speaker 15: and let's draft defensive linemen, rush ends, and let's go
Speaker 15: get a veteran stud linebacker. Offensively, let's get one good
Speaker 15: veteran tackle and let's go win a Super Bowl next year.
Speaker 3: I like that formula.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure you meant by Dixon. Yeah who
Speaker 4: uh uh, But yeah, to your point, I I kind
Speaker 4: of agree, get out ahead of it.
Speaker 15: So money, Chase Brown, we got to resign Chase right
Speaker 15: now as well.
Speaker 3: Chase Brown, what a what a great pick he was, absolutely.
Speaker 4: But but if you can get these guys early, you
Speaker 4: free up money to go do things like pick up
Speaker 4: guys up of free agency.
Speaker 2: And I just got a feeling the money that they've
Speaker 2: thrown at Trey Hendry this year, it's going to go
Speaker 2: elsewhere next year.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 15: Go, I don't even resign trades. Get him out of here.
Speaker 15: Trade's done, he's builking the injury. Get him out. We
Speaker 15: don't want him to let him go. Use the money,
Speaker 15: and let's go get some guys that want to be
Speaker 15: here and play football. The lady said, tag them. We're
Speaker 15: not taking him at thirty something million.
Speaker 4: Let him go.
Speaker 15: He's too old, all right. Kim Breach is still the
Speaker 15: greatest kicker and Bengalo's history.
Speaker 3: Baby, love you guys, thank you.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. I disagree with George that he was
Speaker 4: milking his injury. If there's anybody that wants to be
Speaker 4: out there playing, its Trey Hendrickson and and so often
Speaker 4: I hear that when a guy can't get on the field.
Speaker 4: They said that about aj Green and his foot injury,
Speaker 4: and sometimes there's injuries. He just can't overcome that easily.
Speaker 4: And I wish you understand how competitive guys are and
Speaker 4: the last thing they want to be doing is sitting
Speaker 4: on the bench. Now, there are times when they're angry
Speaker 4: about something. I guess that's the possibility, but it's very
Speaker 4: rare that I've ever seen anything like that in Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: I mean, guys want to. Guys want to. You played
Speaker 4: the game because you love to play the game. You
Speaker 4: played the game when you were a kid. You play
Speaker 4: you can they pay you now, yes, but you still
Speaker 4: love the game. You still love playing the game.
Speaker 2: All alpha males, they want to be out there. Hey
Speaker 2: do we have Kevin in Westwood?
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, how are you doing?
Speaker 13: You get y'all good?
Speaker 3: It was like, let me get you on your mind.
Speaker 15: So first off, I'm I'm you.
Speaker 13: Know, hey, listen.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 17: The Bengals basically get away with right this the leadership
Speaker 17: on the team when they got rid.
Speaker 11: Of all the veterans that were played.
Speaker 17: You got to give guys a chance to get some
Speaker 17: chemistry these guys are starting to jail. You do need
Speaker 17: those other veterans to come in now. And you know,
Speaker 17: we need to use our opportunity to bring in some
Speaker 17: veter games so we have some actual leadership.
Speaker 11: On this here. I'm talking defense.
Speaker 6: It's not offense, as Zach put together a heck of
Speaker 6: offense period.
Speaker 17: No one can say that Zach did not put together
Speaker 17: a great team. Our draft picks have been good. They
Speaker 17: just need time to development. That's happening. This thing about
Speaker 17: disbanding everybody, and I didn't feel like this four weeks ago, right,
Speaker 17: I feel like this four weeks ago, But I do
Speaker 17: feel like this now. Things are starting to come together now.
Speaker 17: It's not the time to disband things. Lastly, the last
Speaker 17: thing I'm gonna say, man, is when you know, when
Speaker 17: when people talk about becoming bangalized and.
Speaker 15: Things like that, we're always on the threshold of being great.
Speaker 17: I don't know any team out here that could have
Speaker 17: that number one quarterback not be available for the field.
Speaker 17: Bring somebody from.
Speaker 3: A whole other team who has never.
Speaker 17: Played with this squad and at least have the performance that.
Speaker 11: We've had up to this point. Lend you with that
Speaker 11: two day, all day and fall there is to us.
Speaker 2: All right, Kevin, we'll address all this when we come back.
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Speaker 3: He's Jim Breach, this is Chick Ludwig.
Speaker 2: We're live at Wings and Rings, Beckett Ridge, forty seven
Speaker 2: eighty two Plum Square in Westchester till eight thirty tonight.
Speaker 3: And I hope it's okay if I say.
Speaker 2: We're celebrating the bengals thirty seven to fourteenth victory over
Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, a two game winning streak for the
Speaker 2: second time this year. Jim, can you remember the first one?
Speaker 2: That was against Cleveland and Jacksonville to start the season.
Speaker 4: Jacksonville turned out to be pretty good, didn't they.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they sure did.
Speaker 2: Wow, we put a blemish on their schedule, that's for sure.
Speaker 4: Briving stepped up big in that game.
Speaker 3: Hey, let's go out to the phones.
Speaker 2: We appreciate all the callers, Dick and Dayton, Richard.
Speaker 3: What's happening? He dropped? Okay, Donald in Mainville? Are you there?
Speaker 13: Yes?
Speaker 3: I'm here all right? Donald.
Speaker 13: Hey, I just want to say that I appreciate you guys
Speaker 13: show each and every week at the game.
Speaker 4: Is uh.
Speaker 13: I do look forward to every time on the Bengal's place.
Speaker 2: We appreciate that we are your guilty pleasure, your guilty pleasure.
Speaker 18: Thank you also too. One thing, I want to make
Speaker 18: a couple of comments. You know, it was great to
Speaker 18: see that, you know, the team have fun and when today.
Speaker 18: It was good to see that because that's kind of
Speaker 18: teaming are. But you know what, we cannot bring it back.
Speaker 18: J It's stone on that defense. Those two have to
Speaker 18: be eliminated from that defense. They're not doing anything to
Speaker 18: help the young group out at all. They actually make it.
Speaker 2: They're gonna look for safeties. They're gonna look for a
Speaker 2: safety or two. We we know that for next year.
Speaker 4: They obviously have to make decisions on the defensive side
Speaker 4: of the ball. There's no doubt about that. And Gino
Speaker 4: Stone out in space. I mean, his tackling is just
Speaker 4: horrendous and huge play.
Speaker 13: It's like, you know, Pulp Warner, I mean, what the heck,
Speaker 13: you'll keep your head up, hop you get your head across.
Speaker 13: What the heck? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think sometimes there are business decisions and if
Speaker 4: you if you notice that, it's usually a bigger guy and.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean a shoulder against Michael Wilson.
Speaker 4: It was a big guy. He's about two fifteen.
Speaker 3: It's not enough to get him out of bounce.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he barely scraped him.
Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
Speaker 4: And he's behind him. And he did the exact same
Speaker 4: things to Loveland on that play with the Bears where
Speaker 4: he went to hit him and he just barely scrapes
Speaker 4: by a guy's just standing there. I mean, the.
Speaker 13: Good job. It would be a big balls books.
Speaker 3: I agree. Oh, I'd love to have back.
Speaker 4: What do you what would you think about Flacco starting
Speaker 4: the Cleveland game, started the Cleveland game for Cleveland, starts
Speaker 4: at the Cleveland game for Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: That would be awesome. Other than I think you'll get
Speaker 2: some time. I don't see him starting.
Speaker 4: I just thought that would be fun.
Speaker 2: It would be awesome, It really would. Hey, uh, Donald,
Speaker 2: appreciate the call. Richard is back. Richard is back from Dayton.
Speaker 2: Hi Richard.
Speaker 4: Hey chik, that's Richard.
Speaker 3: Thanks for calling back.
Speaker 7: I just want to say something. Joe Burrow comes back
Speaker 7: in two weeks lightens up the sky. I mean it
Speaker 7: looks he is a hero for that team. And the
Speaker 7: defense just coming back too. I think you know, but
Speaker 7: it was Chase Brown.
Speaker 2: Chase Brown talked about it after the game. Having Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow on the field just gives a whole gives energy
Speaker 2: to this entire team, and it just GI's some confidence.
Speaker 4: I agree. And they played games two teams they're not
Speaker 4: very good, and with the last good team they played,
Speaker 4: what happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to shut out by the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 4: So I mean it's it's the offense is great, has
Speaker 4: the potential to consistently be great. But that same offense
Speaker 4: without T Higgins. But they won a lot of games
Speaker 4: without Tea or you know, te playing and Jamar or not.
Speaker 4: They still won football games. But they've never been shut out.
Speaker 4: So no, Yeah, I'm excited to see what.
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 15: Check it?
Speaker 2: Guys. All right, tick, thank you, You're welcome, all right,
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Happy New Year. Do we have John in Florida?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 13: You do.
Speaker 19: You had me last week and then you hung up
Speaker 19: on me, So are you gonna stick with.
Speaker 4: Me this week? Hey?
Speaker 2: Well we'll stick with you John. I didn't realize that. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, what is on your mind?
Speaker 15: Well?
Speaker 19: I was discussing about how we have half a billion
Speaker 19: dollars in assets that shouldn't be on the field right now,
Speaker 19: and you know, we we might have a chance next year,
Speaker 19: but I think Falco should be starting, and we sit
Speaker 19: all of our guys. We've we've gone from a seven
Speaker 19: to nine draft pick to a ten third team draft
Speaker 19: pick with these two wins. And the only person that's
Speaker 19: really happy about that is Mike Brown because it saves
Speaker 19: him millions of dollars.
Speaker 15: Can you argue that point with me?
Speaker 19: Or am I right? I?
Speaker 4: At some point winning becomes Mike wants to win. He
Speaker 4: does want to win. Uh you you make a.
Speaker 3: From a fans stand point.
Speaker 4: Fans, you know I remember the game, but I'm playing
Speaker 4: my Wait what what what I do?
Speaker 19: Remember the game against What are we gaining with this win?
Speaker 4: Now, Okay, you're looking at from a fans perspective, you're
Speaker 4: looking at from a perspective.
Speaker 19: Of lots of money on this, But I'm looking at
Speaker 19: it as a fans perspective.
Speaker 2: Okay, this club is evaluating, trying to find out who
Speaker 2: can help them win next year.
Speaker 3: They're not going to lay down.
Speaker 4: Out this point is why.
Speaker 19: We have. We have some defensive guys that have been
Speaker 19: making some great plays here lately.
Speaker 15: But I mean, the.
Speaker 2: Head coach cannot tell the team. The head coach cannot
Speaker 2: tell the team to relax, lay down, let's lose so
Speaker 2: we could get a higher draft pick.
Speaker 3: It ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 4: Well, no, nobody does.
Speaker 19: But nobody makes any sense that we're risking a half
Speaker 19: a billion dollars in assets to get to that point
Speaker 19: when when winning right now means nothing other than a
Speaker 19: worse draft pick.
Speaker 4: As in Max, it's kind of aggravating me. Well, I
Speaker 4: think the thing is guys are getting paid to play football.
Speaker 4: It's not up to them.
Speaker 19: Yeah, very and paid, and you know market like more touchdowns?
Speaker 19: He gets like what three more million dollars stacked onto
Speaker 19: his thing.
Speaker 4: No, idea. I have no idea.
Speaker 19: Yeah, they can afford individual accolades where they need to
Speaker 19: make their own money, and I'm cool with that. But
Speaker 19: if we're going to talk about a team that we
Speaker 19: want to love and that we need to have, it
Speaker 19: doesn't make any sense risking half a billion dollars and
Speaker 19: and an investment and we have literally no defense, and
Speaker 19: all of a sudden, these guys and you know what,
Speaker 19: I'm happy with the defense. I'm happy with these guys,
Speaker 19: these young guys that are coming up and out of
Speaker 19: the practice squad and and showing up and making place
Speaker 19: that exciting.
Speaker 2: So John, what do you want? What do you want
Speaker 2: to see?
Speaker 14: You want I want to I want to see our team.
Speaker 2: You want to see a trap pick? You want to
Speaker 2: see them lose? Is that correct?
Speaker 13: No?
Speaker 4: He wants to chase Higgins and Burrow to sit on
Speaker 4: the bench so you don't ever saw you don't expose
Speaker 4: them and then see what happens. And if they lose,
Speaker 4: then their draft pick maintains wherever it's going to be.
Speaker 4: And if they win, okay, they won with without those guys.
Speaker 19: But but here's another thing. So, like with Trey Hendrickson
Speaker 19: last you know, at the beginning of the season. When
Speaker 19: he sits out, you know what, I wouldn't have paid him.
Speaker 19: I just like, just sit out, just sit out, just
Speaker 19: stay you're not getting paid. I'm done with these guys
Speaker 19: doing all this contract prap because you know, I make
Speaker 19: thirty dollars.
Speaker 3: Ann John, and if I want.
Speaker 14: Tomorrow chick hang on.
Speaker 19: And if I walk into my boss tomorrow and go,
Speaker 19: you know what, I'm not showing up for work tomorrow
Speaker 19: unless you pay me forty a outs. Do you know
Speaker 19: what he's gonna.
Speaker 3: Fail me show you the door. I can find somebody.
Speaker 2: At twenty five, Trey Hendrickson was going to make sixteen million.
Speaker 20: I'm tired.
Speaker 2: I'm Trey hendricks was due to make sixteen this year. Okay,
Speaker 2: he said he would sit out if they he didn't
Speaker 2: get a raise.
Speaker 3: Okay, the Bengals he gave.
Speaker 2: They had to give him thirteen more million dollars.
Speaker 3: John, We're gonna wind up hanging up on you again.
Speaker 2: The Bengals had to give him thirteen more million dollars
Speaker 2: because we're travels fast in the NFL that the Bengals
Speaker 2: are cheap, they're not paying their players. Nobody will want
Speaker 2: to come here, so they had to cough up thirteen
Speaker 2: more million dollars give him twenty nine to uh to
Speaker 2: face up. So with that, let's take a break. Thank
Speaker 2: you very much for the call. We're taking a break.
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Speaker 2: I love the second touchdown drive for the Bengals and
Speaker 2: twelve plays seventy nine yards and loved it when Cody
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Speaker 3: That was awesome. Worked, it really really worked.
Speaker 2: And when that play happened on there, why don't they
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Speaker 2: We saw Sam Hubbard do it at Ohio State. He
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Speaker 4: Doomatop Echo domat several times. Yes, So you know, the
Speaker 4: only thing is those guys are running in there if
Speaker 4: if there's an adjustment that they have to adjust while
Speaker 4: they're going that the linebacker doesn't hit the guy doesn't
Speaker 4: come up exactly where you're expecting. Yes, adjusting on the
Speaker 4: run at three hundred and something pounds can can be
Speaker 4: a little bit difficult at times. Yes, they got to
Speaker 4: It takes a while for them to move.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if there's a flinch then you're five yards back.
Speaker 3: We've seen that a couple of times this year too.
Speaker 4: But it was effective. It can be effective, but you
Speaker 4: get all that weight.
Speaker 2: Behind going absolutely and but yeah, Ryan closing out a
Speaker 2: twelve place, seventy nine yard drive to me, that was
Speaker 2: That was awesome.
Speaker 3: And Joe burrow Man.
Speaker 2: Talking about using all of his weapons and spreading the
Speaker 2: ball out to all of his playmakers.
Speaker 3: It was fun to watch.
Speaker 4: So one hundred and thirty yards to Chase and Tee
Speaker 4: and three hundred and five yards passing, which is pretty
Speaker 4: amazing if you think about it. You know that most
Speaker 4: teams have two wide receivers like the Bengals have, they're
Speaker 4: gonna be getting seventy eighty percent of the yardage, and
Speaker 4: these guys got a small percentage.
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase seven catches, sixty yards, two touchdowns, t four
Speaker 2: catches fifty nine yards a long gain of thirty nine.
Speaker 2: Andre Josvash four catches for forty one yards, Chase Brown
Speaker 2: coming out of the backfield, three catches for forty yards,
Speaker 2: Mike Caseeki two catches for forty seven yards, including a
Speaker 2: thirty two yarder, two catches for Tanner Hudson thirty one yards,
Speaker 2: and one catch to Cody Ford on his twenty ninth
Speaker 2: birthday rumbling, stumbling and bumbling down the right sideline for
Speaker 2: twenty one yards.
Speaker 3: That was awesome.
Speaker 4: He looked like he'd done it before then he really did.
Speaker 4: He wanted that end zone. He wanted that end zone. Bad.
Speaker 3: Oh, that is fantastic.
Speaker 2: Hey, you appreciate all of our callers. Do we have
Speaker 2: Jack in Centerville?
Speaker 14: Hello?
Speaker 4: Hello?
Speaker 3: Just me Green?
Speaker 4: Next Jack?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 15: With regard to the draft, you had just win your
Speaker 15: last three games. And if you feel the need, uh, great.
Speaker 21: Up, great up, get get downs or reef or Jackson
Speaker 21: from Ohio State. Other reasons to look positively toward next year. Hey,
Speaker 21: the schedule the should be favorable. The dynamics and rosters
Speaker 21: change between now and next September. But in the AFC
Speaker 21: you avoid Buffalo and New England. In the West, you
Speaker 21: avoid the Chargers in Denver. The seventeenth add on game
Speaker 21: is Washington The Texans are away that might be the
Speaker 21: only non division game and you're a non favorite. You've
Speaker 21: got Jacksonville and Champa both at home. Love the schedule,
Speaker 21: Thanks so much for letting me in, all right.
Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
Speaker 4: The problem with that is there are what four teams
Speaker 4: that won eleven games this year that are leading their divisions,
Speaker 4: so you just now from year to year it changes.
Speaker 3: But they lost at least eleven last year, they lost.
Speaker 4: At least eleven. I'm sorry. Yes, And let's see Jacksonville's
Speaker 4: joint team to ever have with four wins of previous
Speaker 4: year to go to twelve wins this year, so you
Speaker 4: never know. And the Bengals, and why can't the Bengals
Speaker 4: be one of those teams, you know, have double digit
Speaker 4: losses and turn it around. They're very capable, certainly offensively,
Speaker 4: and again we've discussing the defense. They have to again,
Speaker 4: they've got to make some good choices in the draft.
Speaker 4: They have to continue to develop the guys, which seems
Speaker 4: to be happening. This is probably as good a stretch
Speaker 4: of young guys really playing well. And then they have
Speaker 4: to get some free agents that can impact them, particularly
Speaker 4: in the defensive line.
Speaker 3: Getting a push you're so right, Jim, You're so right.
Speaker 2: Istant pressure on a quarterback eases the pressure on the secondary.
Speaker 3: You don't have to cover as long.
Speaker 4: Even today. I mean, they had four sacks, but nobody
Speaker 4: got there quickly. They had they coverge secks. These guys
Speaker 4: did a great job. And the guys just kept going, going, going,
Speaker 4: and eventually got the uh got the sacks. But every
Speaker 4: once in a while, you know, Hendrick, that's where Trey
Speaker 4: comes in, where he can beat a guy quickly and
Speaker 4: get around the corner and impact the quarterback. And that
Speaker 4: quarterback's on the blind side, and he's got to worry
Speaker 4: about that. And right now, I don't think they're too concerned.
Speaker 4: But four sacks and four sacks, so it worked.
Speaker 3: Hey do we have Sean and Clifton?
Speaker 13: We do?
Speaker 4: Indeed?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 14: Shot, Hey mister throw uh wow? Did you bring you
Speaker 14: too good to talk to you?
Speaker 22: You got me?
Speaker 14: You got me?
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I appreciate you.
Speaker 22: Okay, okay, it's a true story. If I could, I
Speaker 22: know it's it's becoming almost a third rail, but.
Speaker 13: Your earlier collar, John.
Speaker 22: If I could, I think it's a head and heart
Speaker 22: type of situation. And I love your perspective on it,
Speaker 22: uh and just for brief my resume perspective. My father
Speaker 22: has worked for the Bengals and Reds for the last
Speaker 22: fifty years. My brother Kasey and I were at the
Speaker 22: Froze Bool. So there's no question with every ounce of
Speaker 22: our being, we want the Bengals to win, period. We
Speaker 22: want every play to be a positive play the Bengals, period.
Speaker 23: And yet that's the heart the head says, if they
Speaker 23: don't pull out the victory, they get a better draft position.
Speaker 23: If they don't play their starters, the starters don't get hurt.
Speaker 23: And I'm not suggesting they don't play the starters, and
Speaker 23: I'm not suggesting that they thank But isn't there a
Speaker 23: part of you, just a small part of you? It says, Oh,
Speaker 23: these are period victories, and I know there's the encandidate right,
Speaker 23: the momentum going into next year.
Speaker 13: I get it.
Speaker 22: You don't want folks just sitting on the bench. Totally
Speaker 22: get it. The Burrow gets hurt in one of these
Speaker 22: games and we're like, what was that about?
Speaker 2: Why there's always that yang and yang.
Speaker 4: When it comes to football, that's always a possible outcome,
Speaker 4: whether it's the last game of the season, whether it's
Speaker 4: the second game of the season, it's chance of Jacksonville,
Speaker 4: or why guys don't play in the preseason because they
Speaker 4: might get hurt. They might get hurt in practice. There's
Speaker 4: always that possibility. That's part of the game. I'm the
Speaker 4: unfortunate part of the game. And I get what I
Speaker 4: get what you're saying, and I get what John was saying.
Speaker 4: I get I get it. But having played, and I
Speaker 4: just don't think guys feel they don't. I feel like,
Speaker 4: of course, it's not there, it's not their decision, it's
Speaker 4: not has to come from higher It.
Speaker 22: Would be asinine to have coaches playing the subs last
Speaker 22: three games of the year, when you're eliminated from the playoffs, right,
Speaker 22: but don't be the amount to essentially a winter preseason,
Speaker 22: all of them, but with higher stake, with higher stakes.
Speaker 4: Well, I think there is.
Speaker 2: Like people pay fair question, and it's when I go
Speaker 2: to a game, I want to see the best players.
Speaker 3: If you if you.
Speaker 2: Worry about hitting the wall at the Indy five hundred,
Speaker 2: you're going to hit the wall. If you worry about
Speaker 2: getting hurt, you're going to get hurt.
Speaker 3: You cannot. Yeah, so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's It's a conundrum that's gone on for
Speaker 4: as long as people have played football.
Speaker 2: And Sean appreciate the call. Man, Thanks so much. Do
Speaker 2: we have Jeff and Dayton?
Speaker 20: Hi, great show tonight by the way, as always, Thanks
Speaker 20: so much, Jeff. Let me say this, it's good to
Speaker 20: hear yours as well, my friend. Let me say this
Speaker 20: about draft. Ruben Bain is a highly touted defensive end.
Speaker 20: He has thirty but he didn't have very good stats.
Speaker 20: You know, we've been through this before with lineman. His
Speaker 20: college stats over he has thirty point seventy five inch
Speaker 20: arm lengths.
Speaker 15: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 20: I've never seen a lineman that had defensive end had
Speaker 20: that short of arm so he could drop. And I
Speaker 20: hope the Bengals don't draft him there because that's going
Speaker 20: to be a problem. I saying, yeah, most offensive lineman's
Speaker 20: length now is like thirty four inches and a lot
Speaker 20: of them go to thirty five now and thirty inch arms.
Speaker 20: I just boy, they're going to have their hands on
Speaker 20: his chest every time.
Speaker 4: Uh what?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Pete Brown, Mike's brother, Pete, he was he was the
Speaker 2: pro at hand size, arm length size, all those little
Speaker 2: uh you know, all those measurements.
Speaker 3: That was the Pete Brown.
Speaker 4: I get that Tim Crumray was two hundred and fifty
Speaker 4: five pounds coming out fifty five sixty or seven to
Speaker 4: come out of college. He wasn't big enough, wasn't fast enough,
Speaker 4: wasn't fast enough. It wasn't anything he just said. But
Speaker 4: you know what he could do. He could flat out
Speaker 4: play football.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 4: And give me a guy who can play football over
Speaker 4: and having all the perfect maasorables and seems to be
Speaker 4: lacking in production. Give me the guys producing. Yes, Now,
Speaker 4: some of those guys can be.
Speaker 2: All I saw against Texas A and m was Ruben
Speaker 2: Bain wreaking havoc.
Speaker 21: Against Maggie and you got him.
Speaker 6: You got to watch young guys who did he play against?
Speaker 6: What was the left tackle? Left offensive tackle against out
Speaker 6: comes into play as well. Look, he might turn out
Speaker 6: to be a good player. I don't know, but that's
Speaker 6: thirty point just scared me. Now I'm going to say,
Speaker 6: you're this has been the the two most.
Speaker 20: Exciting weeks to watch the Bengals that I've had.
Speaker 11: Actually, I listened to him on the radio.
Speaker 4: In a law You know it's exciting when lap them.
Speaker 11: Yeah, Jeff, Jim no.
Speaker 4: I just said, you know what's exciting when lap Is
Speaker 4: is calling that he's having find in a game like.
Speaker 2: This, Jeff, we got to run man, appreciate the call
Speaker 2: and wishing you, wishing.
Speaker 3: You a happy, happy New Year, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Well before we reached h the bottom of the hour
Speaker 2: break here, let's review the Guilty Windows. Window of opportunity
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Speaker 2: is right after Evan McPherson's fifty seven yard field goal
Speaker 2: giving the Bengals a sixteen to seven lead, the Arizona
Speaker 2: Cardinals go three and out and then key Sean Williams,
Speaker 2: rookie from Indiana picked up off waivers from Pittsburgh on
Speaker 2: December sixteen, returns a punt forty three yards Jim to
Speaker 2: Arizona's thirty six yard line. Chase Brown goes for a
Speaker 2: twenty five yard run, and then it all set up
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow's eight yard touchdown passed to Jamar Chase one
Speaker 2: fifteen to go before halftime, twenty three to seven lead.
Speaker 2: That punt return was the window of opportunity that was.
Speaker 4: Huge terrible punt. Lowe bounced one time right to him.
Speaker 4: He had twenty twenty five yards in front of him.
Speaker 4: Guys are spread out, and he took advantage of every
Speaker 4: bit of it. His eyes had to be like saucers.
Speaker 4: He saw all that room. Oh man, I'm going he's
Speaker 4: done a great job of returning puntzel hickoffs.
Speaker 2: Yes, so finding that niche take advantage of his that's
Speaker 2: what that's.
Speaker 4: You're just trying to find where you fit, you know,
Speaker 4: until you get an opportunity to play on. But your
Speaker 4: deal might be special teams for your whole career, that's right,
Speaker 4: and become the best at what you can what you're doing.
Speaker 2: And you're getting you're still getting paid. If you could
Speaker 2: be a wrecking ball on special teams, there's a place
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's fantastic.
Speaker 2: Well, their punter got off a sixty three yard or
Speaker 2: coffin corner.
Speaker 4: Oh that was that was a beautiful punt.
Speaker 3: That was awesome.
Speaker 2: And you you asked yourself, whatever happened to the coffin corner.
Speaker 4: Punts, because they're very difficult to do. Yes, I can
Speaker 4: tell you that the guys that were coffin corner punters
Speaker 4: probably hit as many into the end zone as they
Speaker 4: got inside the twenty. Okay, Now, now, if you're not
Speaker 4: fifteen ahead of your inside the twenty, if you're not
Speaker 4: like twenty and you know, twenty inside the twenty and
Speaker 4: three touchbacks, four touchbacks, you're really having not a very
Speaker 4: good year as far as that goes. So, yeah, the
Speaker 4: comfin quire difficult.
Speaker 3: Hey, We've got to take a break.
Speaker 2: We're live at Wings and Rings, Beckett Ridge, Plumb Square, Westchester.
Speaker 3: He's Jim Breechs.
Speaker 2: This is Chick Ludwig, and you're listening to the Tri
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Speaker 3: Bengals win thirty seven to fourteen.
Speaker 2: That's on top of last week's forty five to twenty
Speaker 2: one victory over the Miami Dolphins. This week, the hup
Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals went down hard, but man, you got
Speaker 2: to feel for them. Three and thirteen losers of eight
Speaker 2: straight after a two both of these teams started two
Speaker 2: to Oh incredible, they lose their quarterbacks. Kyler Murray's gone
Speaker 2: for Arizona, and of course Joe Burrow was out an
Speaker 2: extended period of time for the Cincinnati Bengals. So but
Speaker 2: it was good to see Cincinnati bounce back here with
Speaker 2: these two straight wins.
Speaker 3: A lot of.
Speaker 2: Folks have problems with it because, oh, it's costing them
Speaker 2: a draft pick. I don't buy it. When you're a
Speaker 2: paying customer, you want to see the best players play.
Speaker 2: They did get Joe out in the fourth quarter. Heck,
Speaker 2: with a minute thirty eight to go in the third quarter,
Speaker 2: he was done for the game, So that was a
Speaker 2: good sign. But the Bengals win, and as we said
Speaker 2: at the top of the show, it's a reminder of
Speaker 2: what this team can do and what hopefully it will
Speaker 2: do next year.
Speaker 4: Jim, Yes, yeah, I agree, But I'm most excited to
Speaker 4: see the development of the defense and the improvement and
Speaker 4: particularly in the defensive backfield because they were a period
Speaker 4: during the season with guys running around wide open every
Speaker 4: all over the field and you're just not seeing that.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: Guys, when they do catch balls, there's guys really close
Speaker 4: to them. They're making plays on the ball. And that's
Speaker 4: a big that's a big step up. That's that's huge,
Speaker 4: and I'm really excited about that.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's go out to the filch Garry is in Madison,
Speaker 2: Garry here.
Speaker 24: Thanks for taking a call. They got a couple of issues.
Speaker 24: One you already touched on a little bit. I think
Speaker 24: if a guy's got a contract and he's able to play,
Speaker 24: he needs to play, no matter what the record of
Speaker 24: the team is, whatever, because the fans expect that, okay,
Speaker 24: and they need when when they got tickets to the
Speaker 24: ball game, they need to go and need to see
Speaker 24: who they want to see, okay, who they're rooting for.
Speaker 24: And then my second com man, the thing that this
Speaker 24: defense is lacking more than anything at all, is what
Speaker 24: you call a good old middle linebacker Okay, in my opinion,
Speaker 24: someone that's out there on the defense what to do
Speaker 24: what he's seeing, and someone that can key all on
Speaker 24: the on the quarterback if he's uh, you know, dropping
Speaker 24: off the running back or he's dropping back for a
Speaker 24: face and that's my opinion.
Speaker 4: I'll hang up on the chow comment. So I think
Speaker 4: they're a good example. Rocan Smith at Baltimore, he changed
Speaker 4: their defense last year when he was picked up. Fred
Speaker 4: Warner is another example of that old time. But they
Speaker 4: can play all aspects. He can cover guys, but they
Speaker 4: can come they come up and fill a hole in
Speaker 4: a heartbeat.
Speaker 3: Does that Rams Corner or forty nine ers or forty
Speaker 3: nine ers?
Speaker 4: Okay, yes, yeah, so yeah. The linebacker is a little
Speaker 4: bit different today than it used to be, but some
Speaker 4: of them still play like those old time middle linebackers,
Speaker 4: just just moving a lot faster.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the days of Dick Buckis and uh gosh, Tommy
Speaker 2: Nobis of the Atlanta Falcons. You're going with a little
Speaker 2: bit smaller, faster guys. The game is just so fast now.
Speaker 4: As soon as they went to the five yard bump
Speaker 4: rule in nineteen seventy.
Speaker 3: Nine, well because of Isaac Curtis.
Speaker 4: Yes, and I was in a meeting when I was
Speaker 4: with the Raiders. They you know, the referees come in
Speaker 4: and talk about the new rules. The guy specifically called it.
Speaker 4: I don't care what they say in Pittsburgh about being
Speaker 4: the mel blot rule. The guy said, this is the
Speaker 4: Isaac Curtis rule, absolutely, and the five yard bump that
Speaker 4: changed everything from then on.
Speaker 2: Because mel Blunt blasted him all the way down the field.
Speaker 4: Well, the Raiders were doing it too, and there were
Speaker 4: a lot of teams doing that. And the Steelers defense
Speaker 4: obviously was so great. All their players were great, so
Speaker 4: they were beating people up pretty good.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: And then Isaac Curtis the five yard bump rule and
Speaker 2: changed the game.
Speaker 4: It did, so people throw the ball a lot more.
Speaker 4: You need guys running on the Your linebackers have to
Speaker 4: be able to run. You got to be able to
Speaker 4: cover guys. I mean, look how much the defensive struggled
Speaker 4: against running backs coming out of the backfield or running
Speaker 4: backs just getting dumped off. If you can't run, those
Speaker 4: guys are gonna go for tons of yards. And they're
Speaker 4: doing a better job with all that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the screen passes that just murdered this team, and
Speaker 2: the misdirection, some of that's getting solved right now.
Speaker 4: Well, even tight ends, you gotta be able to run.
Speaker 4: Have a linebacker. And yeah, McBride had ten catches, but
Speaker 4: he had seventy six yards and I think I think
Speaker 4: four or five came on the last drive whims Old.
Speaker 4: The whole second team was in there. And if you
Speaker 4: hold a guy to tank to seventy six yards on
Speaker 4: ten catches, you've done pretty well, actually, particularly when he's
Speaker 4: your guy, your top guy.
Speaker 2: Thirteen targets, ten catches, seventy six yards, seven point six
Speaker 2: a catch, a long game of eighteen and a touchdown.
Speaker 3: So he is a tremendous player.
Speaker 4: Tremenz player. But they really slowed him down today and
Speaker 4: they he wasn't really, he didn't impact the game like
Speaker 4: he has in games.
Speaker 2: Hey, let's go stick with the phones here, Ken and Mason,
Speaker 2: Kenny Chick, how you doing tonight? Fantastic, it's been a while,
Speaker 2: Ken go.
Speaker 3: One of the good.
Speaker 12: Guys in this world in Jim Breech. Jim, I want
Speaker 12: to take you back to acceleration training with Rocky to
Speaker 12: Colby and Greg to Colby. Oh my god, Jim Crumbrise,
Speaker 12: Hal Morris and the King of acceleration training, Eric Thomas. Kick.
Speaker 12: We were all kicking button back then in those days.
Speaker 3: Oh awesome.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 12: About the button. Yeah, they were too. Hey, guys, don't
Speaker 12: want to bring up one thing. The Bengals salary cap
Speaker 12: is so unbalanced. I mean, they're gonna have a hard
Speaker 12: time with free agency, kick just on the amount of
Speaker 12: money they're paying the three main guys. You know, Henrickson's
Speaker 12: money will free up a little bit, but that's still
Speaker 12: I don't know how many marquee free agents they're gonna
Speaker 12: be able to afford.
Speaker 4: That's the reason they have to draft and develop so well.
Speaker 4: They Like, you have a quarterback on a rookie deal,
Speaker 4: you can fill in big time free agents and then
Speaker 4: obviously that changes over time. Well, just like this on defense,
Speaker 4: maybe you have one centerpiece, like Chris Jones was in
Speaker 4: Kansas City, and you kind of fill in around him
Speaker 4: with a bunch of young guys that can play. We
Speaker 4: weren't sure that was happening. Maybe we're starting to see
Speaker 4: some of that happen in the defensive backfield. The linebackers
Speaker 4: are playing better. They you know, these young linebackers have
Speaker 4: played half of a season now or more, and it's
Speaker 4: starting to click a little bit, and it's kind of
Speaker 4: exciting to see what's happening.
Speaker 12: I agree with you, You're right. I think DJ Turner
Speaker 12: is going to be a heck FO player. I see
Speaker 12: some improvement by a couple of other guys. But hey, guys,
Speaker 12: let's be honest. They have not faced three great quarterbacks
Speaker 12: in the last three games, and I still see Josh
Speaker 12: Allen murder in them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they lost a tough one today. Uh they went
Speaker 2: for the two point conversion, did not get it. Receiver
Speaker 2: was open, but Josh just misfired. But they and they
Speaker 2: fall today to.
Speaker 4: You know, in that game against Buffalo, they did it.
Speaker 4: They did a decent job, and they ran the ball,
Speaker 4: hit his legs and cooks. They really would beat them,
Speaker 4: that's right. And Alan at the end of the game.
Speaker 4: I part part of covering coverage is pressure. If your
Speaker 4: quarterback and stand back there and throw, I don't care
Speaker 4: who you are, trying to cover somebody you can't. It's
Speaker 4: hard to cover for five seconds and these guys are
Speaker 4: going full speed, so well, you know, pressure on the
Speaker 4: quarter go ahead.
Speaker 12: Well, and what you're saying, though, that's the two linebackers
Speaker 12: in experience. I mean, a lot of that break down
Speaker 12: with Allen's success was due to their line their young linebackers.
Speaker 13: You know, they still have a lot of.
Speaker 12: Holes they've got to fill on defense. I mean, I'm
Speaker 12: you know, I think they're playing a little better, but
Speaker 12: I wouldn't. It wouldn't make a whole lot. These last
Speaker 12: three games not been against you know, like I said,
Speaker 12: top flight offenses, you're right now.
Speaker 4: But they've played they played better against. They gave up
Speaker 4: twenty four points against Baltimore, they gave up fourteen against
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh a couple weeks before that. They did give up
Speaker 4: with thirty two the next time they played him. But
Speaker 4: so they've had four or five games in there, and
Speaker 4: some of those against decent offenses that have shown improvement.
Speaker 4: You know, they they Gotti will stop the run and
Speaker 4: they're getting better. Today they were, they were great. Everybody
Speaker 4: was doing their job. There was no place for these
Speaker 4: guys to go. And you know when you run a
Speaker 4: deep when when these guys are where they're supposed to be,
Speaker 4: it's hard to run the ball. So, yes, these last
Speaker 4: two offenses weren't great. They're playing a rookie quarterback and actually,
Speaker 4: as they said earlier, I think Jacoby Brissett runs that
Speaker 4: offense better than Kyler Murray does. But yeah, they have changed,
Speaker 4: they've cut changes. They but you don't want to throw
Speaker 4: everybody out that has made a jump this year, and
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden say, okay, we're going to
Speaker 4: start over. I think you have to go with the
Speaker 4: guys that are improving and then figure out how you
Speaker 4: plug in guys in the areas where you really have need.
Speaker 2: Well, the salary cap will go up. Plus if they
Speaker 2: don't bring Trey back, they will have some money to
Speaker 2: at least get one or two free agents. And uh,
Speaker 2: we've got to run ken.
Speaker 3: Always awesome hearing from you.
Speaker 12: All right, guys, have a good one.
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Speaker 2: to tell He wants you to tell the story again
Speaker 2: about your number, how you went from ten to three.
Speaker 4: All right, So when the Bengals called I fly out,
Speaker 4: they end up signing me and choose your number. Well,
Speaker 4: I was three in college. I was five with the
Speaker 4: Raiders because three was Daryl Lamonica and they wouldn't give
Speaker 4: me three. So I went with five. And I get
Speaker 4: here and they said, we don't have single digits. We
Speaker 4: started ten, and Chris Barr had been ten. I didn't
Speaker 4: really want to be Chris Barr, especially since he had
Speaker 4: just left right. Yeah, but I didn't really like the
Speaker 4: other numbers, so I went with ten because that was
Speaker 4: the lowest number available. And I told I said to
Speaker 4: Tom Gray, if we ever go to single digits, I'd
Speaker 4: like to have three.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 4: Well, Boomer gets drafted in eighty four. Part of his
Speaker 4: contract negotiation is that he would get seven. So we
Speaker 4: go to a single digit and I come in mini
Speaker 4: camp and there's three hanging in my locker. It was
Speaker 4: pretty I was pretty excited about that.
Speaker 2: That is fantastic what a number does for a guy.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and really for me. Three. My idol was Jan
Speaker 4: stener Rude. When I was ten years old. I saw
Speaker 4: him kicking the chamellia bowl. I followed him. I tried
Speaker 4: to find out everything I could about him. And that
Speaker 4: was my number because of Jan stener Ut So I
Speaker 4: got a chance to wear it.
Speaker 3: Fantastic.
Speaker 2: Hey, let's go out through the phones and welcoming John
Speaker 2: and Cedarville.
Speaker 14: John thy good afternoon, he recorded, and Jim.
Speaker 4: Hi, John, all right, Hey, this is what's your brother?
Speaker 14: This is why who they's supposed to feel like, isn't it?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes it is.
Speaker 14: Hey, I got a question for the two of you.
Speaker 14: I don't know what the answer would be, but, uh,
Speaker 14: we've seen go Flacco back to back weeks in a row,
Speaker 14: and what's the chance of him playing against Cleveland and
Speaker 14: being the quarterback that has played against both apponements?
Speaker 2: That funny you should ask that because off the air,
Speaker 2: Jim Breach said, wouldn't it be cool if he started
Speaker 2: against against the uh Browns when he started against the
Speaker 2: Bengals in the opener?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question. Well has it happened? I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 14: Well that that flies through my mind and I thought
Speaker 14: that too. Took about him starting and made be uh
Speaker 14: uh Gardner Garner getting these backed against Joe Flacco and
Speaker 14: and maybe keep Joe burrow Han's way. But uh, you
Speaker 14: guys are talking about these guys should whether they should
Speaker 14: be playing or not be playing. Of course they should
Speaker 14: be playing. It's like if I've got to go to
Speaker 14: the grocery store for a loaf of bread, I shouldn't
Speaker 14: go because I'm not getting the wreck, you know?
Speaker 2: Come on, Well, and they want to finish four and
Speaker 2: two in the division. You know, a victory over Cleveland
Speaker 2: will give him a four and two record in the division.
Speaker 3: They want that and not three and three.
Speaker 14: It's possible they can make a deal on Draft Day
Speaker 14: with Henderson too, if they don't want to resign him.
Speaker 14: But I think the OSI the year. I hate to
Speaker 14: say it, but you know.
Speaker 2: Well he'll be all He'll be a free agent, so
Speaker 2: the Bengals won't have rights to him to make a
Speaker 2: trade or anything on on draft Day.
Speaker 4: Even if they they would have, they would have had.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had to.
Speaker 2: Sign him and then attempted dealing franchise or franchise tagame,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Yes, anyway, I want to give a shout
Speaker 2: out here to court. It was awesome to have Corey
Speaker 2: Kiner come back. Roger Bacon ls U University of Cincinnati
Speaker 2: and he started with the San Francisco forty nine ers
Speaker 2: as an undrafted college free agent.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: He was released with a with an injury I believe
Speaker 2: to his ankle. Minnesota picked him up, he was on
Speaker 2: their practice squad and then the Arizona Cardinals grabbed him.
Speaker 2: So congratulations of Corey Kiner only had one carry today
Speaker 2: for two yards, but he's getting paid.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 25: Uh Hey Premier Stewart getting the first sat Absolutely, yes, rookie, Yes,
Speaker 25: he finally way so I mean saying about his low
Speaker 25: production of facts coming out of college. He's already got
Speaker 25: one on the board in the NFL.
Speaker 3: So it's a great sign. Yeah, that was great John.
Speaker 2: As always, we appreciate the call, and Happy New Year
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 14: Happy new to your to you and Jim as well.
Speaker 4: Thank you, John, I appreciate.
Speaker 2: Today's ruler of the Jungle was Drake Kirkpatrick, first round
Speaker 2: Drea pick out of Alabama. And one of my favorite
Speaker 2: stories is when I left the Bengals beat, I'm at
Speaker 2: training camp at.
Speaker 3: The stadium and.
Speaker 2: Mike Zimmer, defensive coordinator, is meeting with Adam Jones and
Speaker 2: Drake Kirkpatrick on the sideline and he sees me. He
Speaker 2: stops and he starts walking toward me about ten twenty
Speaker 2: yards shakes my hand.
Speaker 3: I'm there, unbelievable. I love Mike Zimmer.
Speaker 2: And when I had him on the air at WNE
Speaker 2: in Dayton, at the end of the interview, he said, Chick,
Speaker 2: need we need to talk more there? What are you
Speaker 2: kidding me? How awesome was that. I love Mike Zimmer,
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, guy absolutely loved him.
Speaker 4: Tough, tough, tough on the players, yes, but they loved
Speaker 4: and respected him so much. You know. I remember Drake
Speaker 4: Kirkpatrick's being the one they accepted and Monday night game accepted.
Speaker 4: Peyton Manning ran back for a touchdown that was kind
Speaker 4: of sealed that game.
Speaker 3: Fantastic.
Speaker 2: Well, hey, we've got to take the top of the
Speaker 2: hour break and we want to thank today's producer back
Speaker 2: in the studios, Liam Tomlinson. Always does a fantastic job
Speaker 2: for us and Liam appreciate it. And you are listening
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Speaker 2: and we're breaking down the Bengals thirty seven to fourteen
Speaker 2: victory over the Arizona Cardinals. And Jim, we've got a
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Speaker 2: And there was a point in that in the game
Speaker 2: where Amarius Mims, with a shin injury, was out for
Speaker 2: a period of time, but he was able to make
Speaker 2: his way back, and I believe it was an ankle injury.
Speaker 2: And how tough is size ap rhyme that he went
Speaker 2: out win sing but then comes back in place.
Speaker 3: The guy's an absolute warrior.
Speaker 4: He is. How about the Blitz pickup.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, he lifted the.
Speaker 4: Guy right off the ground put him on his back.
Speaker 4: It was just it was awesome.
Speaker 2: That was incredible, and and that led to a big
Speaker 2: pass play.
Speaker 4: Down the left hand side of the Jasiki for twenty
Speaker 4: twenty three yards.
Speaker 3: That was fantastic.
Speaker 2: And yes, he just crushed a guy and he was
Speaker 2: really lifted up and put.
Speaker 3: On his back.
Speaker 2: He was I think the guy's head hit first the
Speaker 2: Blitz pick up or his shoulder blades.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just incredible.
Speaker 4: It was pretty hot running back. I guarantee when they
Speaker 4: watched that tomorrow, they're gonna they're gonna run that thing
Speaker 4: back fifteen times, gonna.
Speaker 2: That was beautiful and he had he not picked it up,
Speaker 2: it would have been a sack.
Speaker 3: Who knows a sack fumble.
Speaker 4: Uh, Quarterbacks definitely appreciate that, no doubt.
Speaker 13: Now.
Speaker 4: I was listening to Chase Brown in the post game
Speaker 4: and he was talking about that how excited he was
Speaker 4: for that pickup by Samaja.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was incredible blitz pick up. It's so critical
Speaker 2: for a running back, no doubt. Well, that is your
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Speaker 2: thought the defensive secondary did a much better job today.
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Speaker 4: Sidelines. Yeah that it looked like the one against Pittsburgh
Speaker 4: a few years ago where everybody thought that Le'Veon Bell
Speaker 4: was going out of bounds and he just kept run
Speaker 4: down the sideline and they just kind of stood there
Speaker 4: and watched. He didn't stand there and watch, but hey
Speaker 4: barely make contact with the guy.
Speaker 3: You know, Dax Hill.
Speaker 2: Three passes defense today, Just incredible effort.
Speaker 3: He's really coming on.
Speaker 4: He really is, and he's healthy. Yeah, it was really
Speaker 4: helps because he struggled with position, what position do I play?
Speaker 4: And staying healthy. Now he's he's staying healthy and playing
Speaker 4: and he's showing him what he's capable of.
Speaker 2: We saw dj Ivy with a with a pass defense
Speaker 2: and Barrett Carter did a nice job so as a linebacker.
Speaker 4: So he figured they gave hip turning thirty three yards
Speaker 4: for the game. Everybody did a nice job and ninety
Speaker 4: two of those came in the last drive. So for
Speaker 4: up until that last drive, it was one hundred and
Speaker 4: forty one yards by the Cardinals, and the last drive
Speaker 4: was against the second defense, second team defense, and it
Speaker 4: took him fifteen plays at a fourth down to get
Speaker 4: in the end zone.
Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
Speaker 4: So that's great because the depth played really.
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Speaker 3: Do we have Keith on the west side best side?
Speaker 26: Hey chick, Yes, sir, say mister breach out of respect.
Speaker 3: At Gay Hotel.
Speaker 15: Grew up watching you.
Speaker 26: Bengal fan through the seventies eighties, All my life, my
Speaker 26: wife and I. That's how we got married. She's a
Speaker 26: diehard Bengal fan. Our first date. We've been married for
Speaker 26: years and we've been just I got to tell you
Speaker 26: it's an honor and a pleasure. I do want to
Speaker 26: say I understand both sides of what you guys have
Speaker 26: been talking about. These guys are getting paid. I love
Speaker 26: how Joe Burrow came out and said, hey man.
Speaker 22: I'm getting played to play football.
Speaker 26: That's my job. If I can, if I'm healthy, I
Speaker 26: want to play. But I will say this, I saw
Speaker 26: the look on Falco's face today when he went out
Speaker 26: in the fourth quarter and got to get in that game.
Speaker 22: Forty years old, still.
Speaker 26: Playing the game like a kid. To me, it was
Speaker 26: like watching backyard football, playground football. And you know, if
Speaker 26: he can get in for another game or so and
Speaker 26: just still play the game like a little kid and
Speaker 26: have fun with it, that's what I think Joe Burrow
Speaker 26: is trying to say. He wants to play the game
Speaker 26: and have fun. And I will say this, I don't
Speaker 26: want to risk him, so I'm gonna agree with.
Speaker 14: The guy from Florida.
Speaker 26: I think his name was John, and he did say Falco,
Speaker 26: so I'm gonna say Falco.
Speaker 3: One more time.
Speaker 15: Joe Falco behind Joe Burrow.
Speaker 26: Is one of the best things I've ever heard in
Speaker 26: my life. I think it's hilarious, awesome because if you've
Speaker 26: ever seen it.
Speaker 22: You know exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: You guys are awesome.
Speaker 13: Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Thanks for the fun call.
Speaker 3: Thanks so much.
Speaker 2: And yes, Joe Flacco or Falco, how about rushing for
Speaker 2: a ten yard first play on his first play? Yes,
Speaker 2: he had five attempts, three completions passing and I misspoke
Speaker 2: there five yards on that run. His uh his long
Speaker 2: game pa first.
Speaker 4: Down though, But yes, yeah, I find it interesting. You
Speaker 4: see Flacco and when Boomer came back, I think it
Speaker 4: was ninety six, and how effortless they make it look,
Speaker 4: and even Philip Rivers and his age that they make
Speaker 4: it look effortless against these unbelievable players. As far as
Speaker 4: where to throw the ball right, who to throw it to?
Speaker 4: It looks easy, And I asked Boom. I remember asking
Speaker 4: Boomer because the game looked like it was in slow
Speaker 4: motion to him, he goes, you know, it's just I
Speaker 4: see it. I see I'm to the point in my
Speaker 4: career where it seems slow. It's so easy to see
Speaker 4: what's going on. And that's what happens with these guys.
Speaker 4: That's why Flacco can step in or rivers who just
Speaker 4: step into an offense and perform so well. Eventually, with
Speaker 4: all the stuff going on, you're gonna throw the ball
Speaker 4: in the right spot.
Speaker 3: Everything slows down for those.
Speaker 4: Guys, and where the young guys. It's going to hare
Speaker 4: miles an hour.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: We hyped this earlier in the show, at least I did. Jim,
Speaker 2: I would like to address it, but the Sports Broadcasting
Speaker 2: Act of nineteen sixty one protected college and high school
Speaker 2: football from the what you call the NFL's incursion. And
Speaker 2: Jay Busby if Yahoo Sports wrote about this, and that
Speaker 2: mandated that the shield the NFL couldn't play Saturday games
Speaker 2: before the second Saturday in December, and that's right when
Speaker 2: college football's regular season ends.
Speaker 3: Nobody back in sixty.
Speaker 2: One could foresee the possibility of a massive multi weekend
Speaker 2: playoff bracket that we've seen the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: So there were a ton of college games on yesterday,
Speaker 2: But what does the NFL do. They put two gate,
Speaker 2: They put on a doubleheader the previous week.
Speaker 3: They did the same thing.
Speaker 2: The problem is a lot of these NFL games on
Speaker 2: Saturdays now are on streaming services that a lot of
Speaker 2: people do not get, Netflix, the NFL Network, Peacock, and
Speaker 2: Amazon Prime.
Speaker 3: So you just wish that.
Speaker 2: Something could be worked out where we're seeing the college
Speaker 2: games and we're also seeing the NFL games.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, and you know all these streaming
Speaker 4: services know what kind of response viewership the NFL brings, Yes,
Speaker 4: wherever they have NFL wise, they're going to get a
Speaker 4: huge hit. And if it's just somebody downloading it just
Speaker 4: to watch their team, you know. And well, who who
Speaker 4: would have thought there was going to be thirty something
Speaker 4: bowl games? Right, because when back in that back in
Speaker 4: that time, there were there was January one Bowl games,
Speaker 4: you know, Rose Bowl, Orange Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Cotton Bowl.
Speaker 4: That's pretty much it. There weren't many other I don't
Speaker 4: think there were any other games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the goal was to finish like in the
Speaker 2: top twenty in the country, so you could, you know,
Speaker 2: put it, send your brochures out and for recruits and everything.
Speaker 3: Well, now, gosh, everything has changed, and I'm wondering.
Speaker 2: Why it took so long to really have a college
Speaker 2: football playoff in the the way it is now, you know,
Speaker 2: with twelve teams, who knows if it'll expand to sixteen.
Speaker 4: Who knows what was going on with the bowl games. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that they could hold it off for as long as
Speaker 4: they did. You're right, yeah, yeah, internally you wonder.
Speaker 2: So with with the college football playoffs down to the quarterfinals.
Speaker 4: Now, who do you like? I think we talked. We
Speaker 4: haven't had the game yet. You asked me this last week.
Speaker 4: They haven't played yet.
Speaker 3: That's exact.
Speaker 4: Yeah, again, it takes so long, there's that huge gap
Speaker 4: in there.
Speaker 3: You're right, Well, it's Ohio State and Miami.
Speaker 4: I like Ohio State. Okay, I think Miami is going
Speaker 4: to give them, you know, like you talked about the
Speaker 4: guys on the end, maybe give the these tackles an issue.
Speaker 4: But I don't think Miami can score a lot of points.
Speaker 4: I think their offense struggles. They do have some speed,
Speaker 4: but that defense of Ohio State is really good.
Speaker 3: Yeah. They got a couple of players like Caleb Downs
Speaker 3: that would.
Speaker 4: And they've got some white outs. I've heard that Ohio
Speaker 4: State has a couple pretty good white outs. Have you
Speaker 4: heard that?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: And their quarterback complete like nine his passes. I think
Speaker 4: it was.
Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think they're gonna I think they're gonna
Speaker 4: be just fine.
Speaker 3: Well. And then a triple header on.
Speaker 2: New Year's Day, a day that I just absolutely love,
Speaker 2: Oregon against Texas Tech.
Speaker 4: I mentioned last week. I'm going with Texas Tech.
Speaker 3: Yes, in honor of Joe Walter.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll do it in honor Joe Redder.
Speaker 3: Yes. And Alabama in Indiana.
Speaker 4: I gotta go with the Hoosiers. And what a great
Speaker 4: story that is.
Speaker 2: Who would have ever imagined the day would come where
Speaker 2: Indiana would be playing Alabama. Indiana the number one team
Speaker 2: in the nation with a six and a half point
Speaker 2: favorite over the Alabama Crimson Tide.
Speaker 4: Nobody, even three years ago, nobody would have thought that.
Speaker 2: And then Jim in the All State Sugar Bowl.
Speaker 4: Maybe Kurt Signetty.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, I win Google me uh ole miss
Speaker 2: in Georgia.
Speaker 4: I think Georgia looked really good in that SC Game
Speaker 4: Championship game. I think George is gonna be a tough out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be.
Speaker 2: Uh, We're gonna have to four days here, It's two days,
Speaker 2: four games.
Speaker 4: It's really great.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a blast. Yes.
Speaker 2: Well, hey, let's go over the NFL scores from today,
Speaker 2: and it all starts here with the one o'clock games.
Speaker 2: The Bengals thirty seven to fourteen over the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 2: How about the Browns at home? Can we go ahead
Speaker 2: and say upsetting the Pittsburgh Steelers thirteen to six, and
Speaker 2: that sets up a showdown next week in Pittsburgh. Winner
Speaker 2: take all Baltimore and Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: Oh, I thought you were gonna say it's show out
Speaker 4: between the Bengals and the Browns. Yes, yeah, I guess
Speaker 4: you're right. It is the other one to win the division.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that will be the Bengals final game at home
Speaker 2: against the Cleveland Browns next week, and also the Steelers
Speaker 2: versus the Ravens for.
Speaker 4: The AFC Sunday night game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see you if it hasn't been named already.
Speaker 2: Saints were they thirty four to twenty six victory over
Speaker 2: the Titans.
Speaker 4: They've been playing better lately in Tennessee. Chris Olavey's been
Speaker 4: killing it and shook Hug Chuck Chuck has been playing
Speaker 4: really well. The rookie quarterback, yes from Louisville. He's been
Speaker 4: playing really well.
Speaker 3: Titans at three and thirteen. Saints go to six and ten.
Speaker 4: Titans had a pretty good lead in that game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fourteen to ten at half to or twenty to
Speaker 2: ten at halftime, and they lose thirty four to twenty six.
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars twenty three to seventeen over the Colts in
Speaker 2: uh in Indianapolis.
Speaker 3: Colts at one time were eight and two. They're eight
Speaker 3: and eight now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were up in that game too for the
Speaker 4: most for most of the game.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Philip Rivers again played, he played, okay. They just
Speaker 4: they're having trouble closing out games. That's it, you know,
Speaker 4: and it's so you gotta build close games out right.
Speaker 2: Dolphins are twenty to seventeen winners over the Buccaneers. That's huge,
Speaker 2: and Ted I believe that makes Carolina the NFC South winners.
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think they played this weekend
Speaker 4: or one more game and it's whoever wins the game
Speaker 4: is then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Panthers lost there.
Speaker 2: At eight and eight, Buccaneers are at seven and nine,
Speaker 2: so it's still that's still up for grants.
Speaker 4: ESCU and eight and nine can get in.
Speaker 2: Incredible Patriots unbelievable five touchdown pass from Drake May Forty
Speaker 2: two to ten winners over the Jets in New Jersey.
Speaker 3: Well, he's played great, he really had.
Speaker 4: Mike Rabels did a phenomenal job there.
Speaker 2: Seahawks twenty seven to ten over the Panthers.
Speaker 4: They're really good Seahawks.
Speaker 3: And with Donald Sam Darnold.
Speaker 2: And the New York Football Giants thirty four to ten
Speaker 2: winners over the Raiders in Las Vegas.
Speaker 4: They have just give me Ravens the first pick. Yep,
Speaker 4: it could be Fernando Mendows. They're going to Las Vegas.
Speaker 2: The Raiders and the Eagles eke out a thirteen to
Speaker 2: twelve victory over the Bills in Buffalo, and Eagles led
Speaker 2: thirteen to nothing, but the Bills, as always turn it
Speaker 2: on late.
Speaker 4: Well, the Bills got stopped fourth and goal before they
Speaker 4: even score a touchdown. Were down there and Josh Allen
Speaker 4: came up just short and then they scored two teshdowns,
Speaker 4: went for it. Shakira was wide open, and fortunately he
Speaker 4: just said make a good throw.
Speaker 2: And the Eagles survived thirteen to twelve. Bills are at
Speaker 2: eleven and five, and that's the Eagles record. Also, and
Speaker 2: the Thursday games Cowboys over the Commanders thirty to twenty three,
Speaker 2: and the Vikings knock out the Lions twenty three to ten,
Speaker 2: and the Broncos over the Chiefs twenty to thirteen.
Speaker 4: Mine are kind of some similarities to the Bengals, you know,
Speaker 4: a phenomenal offense and their defensive struggles. Part of there
Speaker 4: is just a lot of injuries.
Speaker 2: And yesterday's games Detexans over the Chargers twenty to sixteen.
Speaker 2: Ravens crushed the Packers in Green Bay forty one to
Speaker 2: twenty four, and that leads us to Monday night's game
Speaker 2: the Rams at the Falcons and tonight's game at forty
Speaker 2: nine Ers. That game is just just getting underway.
Speaker 4: Brock Perry just do pick six?
Speaker 3: Did he really play the game? And the Bears go
Speaker 3: six to nothing?
Speaker 2: Well, Jim and many thanks to all the folks here
Speaker 2: are Server Macy just fantastic.
Speaker 4: He was awesome.
Speaker 2: All the great folks here at Wings and Rings, Beckett
Speaker 2: Ridge and on behalf of my partner Jim Breach and
Speaker 2: today's engineer Mike Mills, and our producers back in the studio,
Speaker 2: Liam Tomlinson and Danny Gleeson. This is the Chickster chick
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