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This is Chick Ludwig and I'm 18 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: alongside Bengals legendary kicker Jim Breach, the leading scorer in 19 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: franchise history, and we're breaking down the Bengals thirty seven 20 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: to fourteen victory over the Arizona Cardinals like a wrecking ball. 21 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 3: Mike mills Is are awesome. 22 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: On site engineer Liam Tomlinson is producing back in our 23 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 2: Kenwood studios Wings, Rings, burgers, sandwiches, salads, appetizers, drink specials, 24 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: Wings and Rings has it all. And Jim and I 25 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: are here at Beckett Ridge Plum Square in Westchester until 26 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: eight thirty tonight, and you are invited And if you 27 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: can't be here in person, please join us by calling 28 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand. 29 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: Or one eight hundred the Big one Breach. 30 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: We know what the naysayers are thinking, that this is 31 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: another meaningless victory against a bad team, But what it 32 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: says to me is it's a reminder of what might 33 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: have been, what could have been, and hopefully what will 34 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: be in twenty twenty six for the Cincinnati Bengals. 35 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 4: WHENSDA and I easy to come by, check correct And 36 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 4: these last two weeks have been pretty amazing. And yea, yeah, 37 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 4: you know, I understand what nay sayers are saying, and 38 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 4: I understand the reason behind it. But the growth of 39 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 4: the defense over the last several weeks has got to 40 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 4: be exciting for fans to see that they're they're getting 41 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 4: better and got to be encouraged by that because it's happening. Yes, 42 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 4: but did you realize even though okay, they had seven 43 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 4: straight losses the Arizona Cardinals, they also had the seventh 44 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 4: best passing passing team in the league. McBride is a 45 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 4: great player, Wilson is a really nice player. They've got 46 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 4: Harrison out on you know house Daves Harrison out there, 47 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 4: and yet they threw for just the set through for 48 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 4: just over two hundred yards. Their offense has actually played 49 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 4: better offensively since he took over. Now, their defense has 50 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 4: not played well, So that's why they lost seven in 51 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 4: a row. However, ninety two of those came on the 52 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 4: last drive with almost all second teamers in and that 53 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 4: took him fifteen fifteen plays to get there. 54 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Yes, the Bengals improved to six and ten. 55 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: It's their second two game winning streak of the season. 56 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,839 Speaker 2: The first two games of the season were victories and 57 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: Arizona falls. Wow, three and thirteen, eight straight losses. They've 58 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: played over eighty players this year, just decimated by injuries. 59 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: And that amazing when it kind of snowballs. So with 60 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 4: injuries and it seems like it starts happening and you 61 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 4: start losing, and obviously there's more injuries, and it's just 62 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 4: it's something you can't you can't, you can't stop, and 63 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 4: you hope you can find somebody along the way. Of 64 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 4: those eighty players, maybe they found somebody that can help 65 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 4: him next year, because right now, obviously I'm in there 66 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 4: an eight game losing streak, and it's that fun going 67 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 4: to work. 68 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 2: A little bit of revenge here against Jacoby Brissett because 69 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 2: he was the quarterback for the New England Patriots last 70 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: year in that opening game. 71 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: The Bengals had no business losing. 72 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 4: Mean that preseason game. 73 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, kid, But he's beaten the Bengals a couple times. 74 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 4: Well, he's played with enough teams, he's had enough opportunity. 75 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: He sure has, he sure has. But we are spoiled 76 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: by Joe Burrow. There's no doubt about it. Zach Taylor, 77 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: head coach, talked about it after the game. His ability 78 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: to diagnose, especially on third down and get the ball 79 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: to the right player just incredible. Twenty four of thirty 80 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: one passing three hundred and five yards. He did get 81 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 2: Zack three times, but two touchdowns a long game of 82 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: thirty nine yards to tee a passer. 83 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: Rating of one twenty nine point one. We love Joe Burrow. 84 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 4: He gets everybody today, particularly guy they're they're you know, 85 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 4: Chase has sixty yards and that's the most and he 86 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 4: goes over three hundred yards. So that's amazing to get 87 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 4: that many guys that many yards. But the one thing 88 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 4: I was down there, it was so windy. Yes, the 89 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 4: goalposts were swaying back and forth. And to throw the 90 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 4: ball that as accurately as accurately as he did was 91 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 4: amazing because this was a tough day to throw the ball. 92 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 2: And that was probably one of the reasons why Evan 93 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: McPherson uh missed a uh missed an extra point. 94 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 3: Possibly he yanked it left. 95 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 4: He pulled it, pulled it, yeah, And I think it's 96 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 4: because he pulled it, yes, But but the end was 97 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 4: a could have been a factor because it really was 98 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 4: extremely windy. Uh. And that's throwing the ball. Kicking the ball. 99 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 4: Wind is the biggest factor, more so than even the cold. 100 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: And Evin did make a fifty seven. 101 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 4: He did make a fifty seven yard making it look 102 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 4: he's kicked the ball beautifully this year. He's had a really, 103 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 4: really great season. 104 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: Just some phenomenal things happen in this game. 105 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase catches two touchdown passes and he reaches the 106 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: end zone for the first time since October sixteen. Jim, unbelievable. 107 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 2: I didn't realize he hadn't seen the end zone in 108 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 2: that long. How about Cody Ford. Happy twenty ninth birthday 109 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: to Cody Ford. He lines up as a full back 110 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: and a wide receiver. He's a three hundred and fifty 111 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: pound offensive tackle and guard, and he winds up catching 112 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: and rumbling twenty one yards. Had set up a touchdown 113 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: run by Chase Brown. So incredible. 114 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 4: I was going for he was going for the end zone, Yes. 115 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: He was. 116 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 4: He would have done anything to get in the end zone. 117 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: He absolutely would have. 118 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: And finally, rookie defensive end Shamar Stewart generates his first 119 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 2: sack of the sea. So he lifts his arms to 120 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: the heavens. It finally happened. 121 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 4: So just a lot of Miles Murphy. He had a 122 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 4: nice stack he did. Yes, Okay, I give a lot 123 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 4: of credit to the defensive backfield because a few of 124 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 4: those recovered sacks. Yes, but they just kept going, keep going, 125 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 4: and keep going, and they kept closing in and finally 126 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 4: they came up with the sacks and it was really 127 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 4: impressive defense. I mean two our thirty three yards all 128 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 4: day too. Phenomenal defensive effort. 129 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: Today, and people are going to want to know, Jim, 130 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: what's this all about. 131 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: Uh, you want to finish the year strong. 132 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: Like you mentioned, no, victory is easy to come by 133 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: in the National Football League. The Cleveland Browns come in 134 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: here next week after upsetting the Pittsburgh Steelers today. Oh, 135 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: we feel bad about that though, Oh I know, Brown's 136 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: always played the Steelers tough. And then next week in 137 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh the Ravens and the Steelers with a winner take 138 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: off for the AFC North and a trip to the postseason. 139 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. This is the thing that makes it disappointing the 140 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 4: way the season is gone. The division was very gettable, 141 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 4: The conference is very gettable this year. I think in 142 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 4: Jacksonville right now, probably playing as well as anybody. I'm 143 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 4: going into Denver last week and putting it on Denver 144 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 4: pretty well. So it was it's just not a good 145 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: season where they we just couldn't get their defense together. 146 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: Hey, it's awesome to be here at Wings and Rings. 147 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: Beckett Ridge. We're on Plump Square. I've got my coffee, 148 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: I've got my computer. Jim has his soda and his 149 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: cell phone. All we need is you at five one, three, seven, four, nine, 150 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the Big One once again 151 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: live at Wings and Rings, Beckett Ridge, forty seven eighty two, 152 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 2: Plump Drive. 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Macy really taking care of us. 160 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: And here I keep bugging Jim Breach while he's trying 161 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 2: to eat his It looks like an awesome Caesar salad there, Jim. 162 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 4: It's a Southwest salad. 163 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 2: Southwest salad, all right, fantastic with to be specific with 164 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: potato wedges. Oh yeah, fantastic, really good guys, I got. 165 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: Friends here tonight. 166 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: Outstanding Susan Richardson, Nancy Christophoe and her daughter Man fantastic. 167 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: Appreciate everybody coming out. And we've got Pat in Redding. Pat, 168 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: you've got to lead us off again. 169 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: Bring it to a. 170 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 4: Strong Pat All. 171 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 5: Well, Look, it was great to have He's in a 172 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 5: row where you could actually relax in the fourth quarter. 173 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 5: It's been an awfu way long time. The offense played great, 174 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 5: the defense was very good. Now you look back at 175 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 5: the Jets, Bear, New England and Buffalo games, especially the 176 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 5: Jets and the Bears, and you wonder. 177 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 6: What the season would have been like if we had. 178 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 5: Only an average defense. Now you're gonna call me home fayer, 179 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 5: You're gonna call me an a sayer. But if we 180 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 5: have this good ending and Mike Brown has another excuse 181 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 5: to do nothing about the coaching or the drafting, you know, 182 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 5: and if you want to call me an a sayer, 183 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 5: I'm going to ask you to want both Zach and 184 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 5: Duke Cobn back in charge of the Bengals next year. 185 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: Jim, I don't see any changes in the coaching staff. 186 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: I really don't, at least Zach Taylor. Okay, there might 187 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: be an assistant move on whatever, But I see the 188 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator and the offensive coordinator both coming back here 189 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: next year. This club needs more protection for Joe Burrow 190 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: Orlando Brown. I believe the left offensive tackle has one 191 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: year left. 192 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 3: You could look at. 193 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 2: That position and we can't be naive enough to think 194 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: just because we've seen some defensive improvement that that unit 195 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: is going to be okay. 196 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: No, it needs an overhaul. 197 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: You need defensive linemen, you need linebackers, and you need 198 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: safeties and corners. You can't have enough of defense. They're 199 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: going to add to that unit. There's no doubt about it. 200 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: Jim Breach. 201 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 4: True, you know, I think particularly the defensive line, if 202 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 4: you can if you can get penetration, if you can 203 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 4: get up the field, getting quarterbacks faces, it makes the linebackers, 204 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 4: defensive backs their their job becomes much easier in terms 205 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 4: of trying to cover somebody, how quickly the ball comes out, 206 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 4: all those things. But over the last several games, yes, 207 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: they have improved dramatically, and there's some people playing really well. 208 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 4: DJ Turner dex Hill has come on, played really well. 209 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 4: Jayalen Davis going into the slot has played really well. 210 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 4: Jordan Battle has played well. Gino Stone did another one 211 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 4: of those houdinny things on Wilson down the sideline and 212 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 4: completely whipped on the guy. The same thing he did 213 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 4: the Lovelin and the Bear game. Now, you can't tell 214 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 4: me they're not in the locker room the what IFFs. 215 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 4: I guarantee you there. And they're thinking, oh my gosh, 216 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 4: that's the you know, the Bears those games, I mean, 217 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 4: we'd have a shot and the other I mean, it's 218 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 4: it's frustrating to have things like that happen in games 219 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 4: you have under control. And Baltimore, I mean Buffalo, they're 220 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 4: up double digits at all three of those games in 221 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter and that is unbelievably frustrating. They had 222 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 4: the same problem last year. It has improved. It has improved, 223 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 4: Miles Murphy has improved. Yes, they need some help in 224 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 4: the middle of the defense. In that you know, Slayton 225 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 4: did a nice job today. He had a sack. You've 226 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 4: got to control that middle. If you can control that medal, 227 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 4: it can help these young guy, the guys on the 228 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 4: outside get up the field. And yeah, they can't. They 229 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 4: can't sit on their hands and whether yeah, I think 230 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 4: they gotta make a decision with is Duke Tobin the guy, 231 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 4: and I give him some credit on the If you 232 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 4: look back to the twenty twenty three draft, Miles Murphy 233 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 4: now is coming on. DJ Turner was in that draft. 234 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 4: There's some there's some good players that came out of 235 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 4: that draft that they could build on. But for the 236 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 4: most part the last several years, the drafts have not 237 00:13:58,480 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 4: been great. 238 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, we understand it. 239 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 5: I asked you a question about a meaningful game this week, 240 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 5: which is Ohio STATEOT. 241 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: I'm worried as an Ohio State Buckeye fan. They are 242 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: a notoriously slow starting team. Teams have even though they've 243 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: got a great defense, teams have run on them, including 244 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: Michigan early in that game. Miami's got a lightning quick 245 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: defensive line and the turning The biggest question in that 246 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: game is Ohio State's offensive line. 247 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: If they can hold up and protect. 248 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: Julian Saying and create running space for Bo Jackson and 249 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: their young running backs, I'll feel good. But the defensive 250 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: ends Ruben Bain Junior and Akeem Mesador are are awesome, 251 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: and Miami's playing with house mind. They're playing with house money. 252 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: No one expected them to be here. Ohio State, the 253 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: pressures on the Buckeyes, so nothing will shock me. I'm 254 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: stunned that it's a nine and a half point Ohio 255 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: State favored by I'm just stunned by that. 256 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 5: Are they going to do anything to change the fact 257 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 5: that they have to wait so long to play their 258 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 5: first playoff game? 259 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 6: That's ridiculous. 260 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: It's uh, it seems like forever. 261 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 4: Well, it's just like if you we're playing in the 262 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 4: rose ball, you would have that time off. 263 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: So it is a good couple of weeks. 264 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 4: And it's not like the first time they've ever had 265 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 4: to do it. That's right, if you only did it 266 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 4: for the first time trying to figure out what to 267 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 4: do during that period. 268 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: Pat, I hope you'll continue to listen because before we're 269 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: off the air tonight, we Jim Breach and I are 270 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 2: going to discuss the NFL versus the college football with 271 00:15:55,480 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: viewership on TV. We're going to talk about that because yeah, yes, 272 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 2: something has to something needs to change. It really does, 273 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: because the NFL is going to steamroll you no matter 274 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: who you are on television. So we're going to talk 275 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: about that before we get off the air today. But 276 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: thank you so much, Pat, all right, appreciate it, and 277 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: do we have Bryson and Anderson. Yes you do, all right, Bryson, 278 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 2: the next, the next, Lance McAllister right here, Bryceon. 279 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 5: Well, thank you. And a lot of fans they've been saying, oh, 280 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 5: it's it's just the Cardinals are a horrible team. 281 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 7: But they did a lot of things right. 282 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 5: Even if the Cardinals didn't have guys like Kyler Murray 283 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 5: or Trade Benson. But in any league alone, Lettle of 284 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 5: the NFL, will win is a win and it's toughly 285 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 5: gonna win in the NFL. They made the Cardinals one dimensional. 286 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 8: The big screw was actually cooking with Jamar and they 287 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 8: were getting open in space. 288 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: And when you can run the ball like Chase Brown 289 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: did today, run and catch the ball, Wow, it just 290 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 2: makes a quarterbacks job much easier when you're when you're 291 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: running the ball. 292 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 4: I would say the Cardinals offense is better with Jakobe 293 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 4: Burssett running it than with Kyler Murray. Their offense has 294 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 4: been much better after Murray went out, and he has 295 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 4: struggled the last several years. He has he has moments right, 296 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 4: and the guys i't believe he's incredibly talented. But Brissett 297 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 4: runs the offense the way it was intended to be 298 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 4: run and they've over up until this week, really moved 299 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 4: the ball through the through the air. They've thrown the 300 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 4: ball really well. The Bengals just shut him down in 301 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 4: all phases today. 302 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 2: There were Buckeyes all over that field for the Arizona Cardinals. 303 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 2: I was kind of found myself kind of pulling for him. 304 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: Cody Simon was was incredible. And uh, hey, Marvin Harrison 305 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 2: Junior has been fighting with a heel injury. He's just 306 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 2: a shell of himself right now. 307 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 4: So you're a wide receiver and your feet hurt. Oh, 308 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 4: that's trouble. 309 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: It's real, it really is, all right, Bryce, and I 310 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 2: want to wish you and your family a very happy 311 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: New Year you j J. 312 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 4: Thanks Bryson, thanks so much. 313 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 2: And we've got time to go down to beautiful Central 314 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: Kentucky to Lexington. 315 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 4: Is this Tiffany? 316 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 9: Hey Tiffany, Hello, Hello, long time day nights older and 317 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 9: a listener, so. 318 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 8: Thank you for taking my call. By I do have 319 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 8: a question with our young guys that seem to have 320 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 8: come up a little bit with the defense. They're getting better. 321 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 8: What do you do with Trey Henderson? Now that's my question, 322 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 8: what do you do with Tray. 323 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: You know, I would offer him a contract, but nothing 324 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: nowhere near what he made this year. He fleeced him 325 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: for thirteen more million dollars to what twenty nine million? Okay, 326 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 2: So I would offer him ten or eleven million and 327 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: take it or leave it someone else. 328 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 3: Let someone else pay you. 329 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 2: So he's working right now on getting healthy for his 330 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: next contract. He's out for the rest of the year 331 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: with a variety of injuries. 332 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 4: But all right, that's going to be the difficult part. 333 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 4: Are these guys on the outside Osai, who's out, Miles Murphy, 334 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 4: Cedric sat Cam sample. Have those guys make made enough 335 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 4: of a jump that you can discount what Trey Hendricks 336 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 4: it brings to the table. You know, Trey goes through, 337 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 4: he gets hurt. TJ. Watt goes to the same thing. 338 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 4: He gets he gets a nice, a great contract, and 339 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 4: he gets hurt. And they're both in their early thirties. 340 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 4: How does that look? How is that viewed? Trey hasn't 341 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 4: really he's played over the years he's been out there. Uh, 342 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 4: this was an injury that obviously it just wouldn't heal. 343 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 4: But that's good. That's gonna be the biggest decision defensively 344 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 4: because that frees up if he doesn't come back, that 345 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 4: freezes a lot of money. What do you do with 346 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 4: that money? 347 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: Yes? 348 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 4: Do you you get it? I think you have to 349 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 4: do something with DJ Turner before it gets too expensive. 350 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 4: You know, some of these young guys that are showing 351 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 4: that they can really play, don't wait until they hit 352 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 4: their their last year and don't pay them like changing 353 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 4: all these other guys. They wait and wait and wait, 354 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 4: and then they get more and more expensive. Get them 355 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 4: while they're they're cheaper, and that we can free up 356 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 4: money for a free agent, couple of free agencies. You know, 357 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 4: guys in free agency, it's that's always the tough part. 358 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: Of it is a tough decision here that they're gonna 359 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: have to make. I I believe they will offer a 360 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 2: great uh a contract. It's not going to be a 361 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 2: three or a four year deal, maybe a two. 362 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 8: But what a frankchiz tag? 363 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 5: Could I do it for you? 364 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: All right? 365 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 2: Hey, we'll address that, Tiffany when we come back. We've 366 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: reached the top of the hour break. He's Jim breached. 367 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 2: This is Chick Ludwig. 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Last 390 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: week it was forty five to twenty one over the 391 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins. This week thirty seven to fourteen. Man with 392 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: this offense is click and it is special. 393 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 4: It really is. It's as good as there is in 394 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 4: the league. And lately it's really think about him off again, 395 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 4: shut out, correct and then done pretty well since the 396 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 4: last two weeks. 397 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 3: No doubt. 398 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 4: It just shows that the team you do play doesn't 399 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 4: matter who your opponent. 400 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 3: Is, no doubt about that. 401 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: And let's review the delivery of the game brought to 402 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 2: you by RNL Carriers. Visit RLC dot com and make 403 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 2: RNL Carriers your global transportation provider. How about Joe Burrow's 404 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: thirteen yard pass to Jamar Chase to get the Bengals 405 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 2: on the board at the nine to seventeen mark of 406 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: the first quarter. 407 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 3: It was just amazing. Uh, Jamar Chase. 408 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 2: Stiff arms the guy, breaks the tackle near the sideline, 409 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 2: then he breaks another tackle, spins, dives into the end 410 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 2: zone just and then he folds his hands in prayer 411 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 2: to a higher power. He finally got into the end 412 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: zone for the first time since October sixteenth, So that. 413 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 3: Is the delivery of the game. It was just a phenomenal. 414 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: Pass and catch and uh, what a route to get 415 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: into that engine. 416 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 4: It was unbelievable. And he became the first player in 417 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 4: NFL history with eighty catches, one thousand yards and seven 418 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 4: touchdowns in their first five seasons. Just uh, every time 419 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 4: you catch a touchdown pass or adds to a reception, 420 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 4: and he's putting a record on the boards, you know, 421 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 4: and there yardage is only short of Justin Jefferson, but 422 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 4: he's been closing the gap each year. Former teammate of 423 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 4: his a l You think they were pretty good with 424 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 4: a decent quarterback. 425 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Joe Burrow and the cigar at the Superdome. Wow, Hey, 426 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: let's go back out to the phones. Do we have 427 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 2: Rick and Alexandria? And how about Brandon in Indianapolis? Our 428 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: good friend Brandon. 429 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 10: Hey, chik, Jim, how are you guys doing? 430 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 3: Fantastic? And Brandon? Happy New Year. 431 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 10: Happ happening year to you guys too. You know you 432 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 10: guys were talking about earlier. You know how the NFL 433 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 10: has been a steamroll college football. It's like the NDA 434 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 10: was on Christmas too, And I know those were some 435 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 10: lousy NFL games. I don't know, they turned out pretty good, 436 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 10: but I mean, I don't. I just love the NFL. 437 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 11: I don't. 438 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 10: I know, you guys to it over any of them 439 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 10: because it's once a week. It's just it's just wonderful, 440 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 10: you know. I just I think I think I'm interested 441 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 10: to shoot here what you guys have to say later 442 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 10: about that, because you know, okay. 443 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 3: Can it's more. 444 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's once a week for a team, but 445 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 2: it's twice twice a week for some teams. And uh, 446 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: the NFL wants to play every night of the week. 447 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 4: So baseball basketball are fairly regional. Your team is in 448 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 4: your locale, you know, the Reds are big here. The 449 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 4: NFL is national. Every it seems like everybody is part 450 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 4: of it. 451 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 3: Internet. 452 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 4: Yes, last year of the top one hundred programs ratings wise, 453 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 4: ninety three were NFL football games. Yeah, ninety three of 454 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 4: the top one hundred. 455 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 11: Yeah. 456 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: Yes, the sponsor, the uh, the advertising, it's just uh, 457 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: it's a monster. 458 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 4: It's amazing, it really is. 459 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 10: It's just it's just hard to you know, it's just 460 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 10: hard to overcome it. But you know, and I know 461 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 10: you were talking about this to Jim, and we talked 462 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 10: about last week about Burrough playing, and I'm glad they're 463 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 10: doing well and I and I understand what you guys 464 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 10: are saying, but darn, I mean, we're talking about games 465 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 10: that don't mean anything, and I but I know it's 466 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 10: nice to win them. And but I'm just afraid. 467 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 12: I know Mike Browning. 468 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 10: Company doesn't make changes very easily, So I'm. 469 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 13: Kind of afraid. 470 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 10: You're probably right, chick, that Zach's gonna stay next year. 471 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 10: But I just think you still got to, girlie, and 472 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 10: I know you guys do because you were talking about it. 473 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 11: They still got to make some changes. 474 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 10: They still got to make changes, and I hope, I 475 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 10: just hope they'll say, well, we want our. 476 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 4: Last three games wide. 477 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 10: We can do this, you know, no, no, no, no, no, 478 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 10: you got to make sure. 479 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 2: Branded, all bets are off, all bets are off. 480 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 3: If they start slow next. 481 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 2: Year, it will be absolute armageddon in Cincinnati. There will 482 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: be a house cleaning if they start slow next year. 483 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 4: I don't know if that happens. Ever happened in Cincinnati. 484 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's. 485 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: What that's what's upset Joe you with his talent and 486 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: his success in his career, to go three consecutive years 487 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: without the playoffs? 488 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 3: You tell me he's not frustrated. 489 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 2: And if there would be a four straight year, oh, 490 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 2: it's gonna get ugly. 491 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 4: However, you have. 492 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 3: Go ahead. 493 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:39,959 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. 494 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 10: I was just gonna say, and you know, Jim, because 495 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 10: I remember I was talking to you about you know, 496 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 10: I don't understand why they're playing him, and you're right, 497 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 10: he wants to play and he should. I mean, injuries 498 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 10: can happen anytime. But I just I mean, I'm I 499 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 10: were winning, but it's you know that I sit and 500 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 10: think to myself, It's like, but does this mean that 501 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 10: Katie and the guys involved are I'm not going to 502 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 10: make changes. 503 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 14: I mean probably not. 504 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 10: I just think that after a while, the coaches and stuff. 505 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 6: It's kind of like, you. 506 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 10: Know, if a marriage doesn't work out anymore, it's just 507 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 10: got us to say this isn't working. 508 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 13: We need a new voice. 509 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 10: I'm not saying it's all VA's fault. 510 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 15: I think some of it. 511 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 10: Is, but but they haven't drafted right in a few years, 512 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 10: I don't think, and it is some things we could 513 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 10: just they just need to make changes. 514 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 4: On my thoughts, well, I don't continuity is a big deal, 515 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 4: and this offense runs at a pretty high level. And 516 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 4: I don't know, why do you want to get rid 517 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 4: of Zac And now you're going to start over with 518 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 4: the brand new offense that everybody has to learn. When 519 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 4: you have one of the best going, the guy guys 520 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 4: play for him. However, they have not done a good 521 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 4: job of finding the talent. And it's harder now with 522 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 4: having to pay Burrow, pay Chase, pay Higgins, you paid Hendrickson, 523 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 4: you paid just Sicky. He had all these guys on 524 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 4: offense except for Hendon, and we don't know what's gonna 525 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 4: happen with Hendrickson. So now you have to do a 526 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 4: phenomenal job of drafting. On the defensive side. DJ Turror 527 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 4: looks like a really good player, Dax Hill is really 528 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 4: coming on, Battles coming on Miles Murphy possibly. But every 529 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 4: draft you're going to have to hit on those young 530 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 4: guys on defense. And if you miss in a couple drafts, 531 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 4: which they have previously, sets you back, sets you back 532 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 4: big time, and you end up with the defense it 533 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 4: really struggles. And I don't know that changing the defensive 534 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 4: coaching makes any sense either, because they seem to finally 535 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 4: getting a feel for what they're doing on the defensive side. 536 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 4: You do you start it all over again and go 537 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 4: through a half season of them starting to figure it 538 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 4: out again. 539 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: All right, appreciate the call as always, Thank you so much. 540 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 2: Happy New Year to Brandon. Hey, we've got to take 541 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: a break. We'll come back with more. He's Jim Breach. 542 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: This is Chick Ludwig. You are listening to the Trice 543 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL carriers on 544 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome back 545 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented 546 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: by RNL Carriers. This is Chick Ludwig. I'm alongside Jim Breach. 547 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: We are live at Wings and Rings, Beckett Ridge, forty 548 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: seven eighty two Plumb Square in Westchester. We're here till 549 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: eight thirty tonight, and we appreciate all the callers and 550 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 2: all the folks here in attendance. Let's go out to 551 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: the phones as we continue to discuss the bengals thirty 552 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: seven to fourteen victory over the Arizona Cardinals today Matt 553 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: in Springfield, Matt, how are. 554 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 3: You, hey? 555 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 11: What's going on? 556 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 13: As always? 557 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 3: Chick all right, Matt Hey, Matt Hey, yeah. 558 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,479 Speaker 16: Good talk YouTube Jim, Yeah, man, that's a good one today. 559 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 16: You know, the defense has actually been stepping up for 560 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 16: you know, since what the still has Jim that one 561 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 16: last st game, that defensive showed improvement. So you know, 562 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 16: maybe that's something to build on for the next season. 563 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 16: You know, hopefully we can get back to things because 564 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 16: I mean, I mean this team is five and two 565 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 16: with Burrow starting, So what could have been? 566 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 4: You know, if Burrow did not. 567 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 16: Get hurt, especially with how bad the AFT Mors looks 568 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 16: this year. I mean the BFC North A nine and 569 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 16: eighteen is gonna win the division. So I mean, again, 570 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 16: what could have been if you know, Burrow was healthy. 571 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 16: It just this sucks. This this season was the Bengals 572 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 16: for the taking, and it just what could have been? Man, 573 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 16: they look unstoppable when they're all healthy. You cannot stop 574 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 16: that three yoh Man, t Jamala and Burrow Man when 575 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 16: they're firing. 576 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 11: On all cylinders. 577 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,719 Speaker 4: It really is a thing to well. 578 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 2: When we go back, yeah, we go back to the 579 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 2: Jets and the Bears games coming off a big win 580 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 2: over Pittsburgh, you know on a Thursday night, and those 581 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: two games that just killed this club. 582 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 4: And the Buffalo game, yes, when they were starting to 583 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 4: play better defensively, Josh Allen just tore him up. 584 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 3: He did, yes. 585 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 4: Again in both in all three of those games, gave 586 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 4: up fourth quarter leads. And that's that's the one thing 587 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 4: you have to be able to close it out. I'm 588 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 4: as we're sitting here, I was watching a little bit 589 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 4: of Philadelphia's defensive line. Oh my gosh, they're harassing Josh 590 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 4: Allen every time he throws. And again, if you get 591 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 4: in the quarterback, I don't care who the quarterback is. 592 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 4: If you're pushing, if you're getting back into his face 593 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 4: and he can't step up into his throws, he becomes 594 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 4: average Joe at that point. 595 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 3: That's it. That's right. 596 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 2: And we saw back to back sacks against Joe Burrow 597 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 2: today on their gosh, get him blocked, run the football 598 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 2: and stop the rush. 599 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 4: I was thinking of, yes, yes. 600 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 11: All right, I'll be done. Then I said, who there, guys, all. 601 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 3: Right, thanks so much of Jim. Jim reach right here 602 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 3: is correct. 603 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: You look at Philadelphia, wave after wave of great players 604 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 2: up front. 605 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 4: And that's I wasn't talking necessarily what the other team did. 606 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 4: They You can't neutralize the quarterback, right. What I'm saying 607 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 4: is they typically bring it, and by bringing it, they're up, 608 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 4: they're up the field, and they're making it hard on 609 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,479 Speaker 4: every quarterback to throw the ball successfully. Especially their defense 610 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 4: is getting healthier there. And you know, you see that 611 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 4: and you think you see what's possible. 612 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, hey, let us get a push. Is George 613 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 3: in Green Hills with us? 614 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 15: What's up? 615 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 3: All right? 616 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 4: G oh hey, George lay it on us? 617 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 15: Whod okay guys? 618 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 3: Yes, sir? 619 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 15: Well, First of all, guys, great team win today. So 620 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 15: much fun to see them all clicking at the same time. 621 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 15: But I am so excited. I am so excited for 622 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 15: next year. Defensively, I think we need to resign right 623 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 15: now that Toil Turner, Battle Dixon. Get those guys all resigned, 624 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 15: and let's draft defensive linemen, rush ends, and let's go 625 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 15: get a veteran stud linebacker. Offensively, let's get one good 626 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 15: veteran tackle and let's go win a Super Bowl next year. 627 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 3: I like that formula. 628 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure you meant by Dixon. Yeah who 629 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 4: uh uh, But yeah, to your point, I I kind 630 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 4: of agree, get out ahead of it. 631 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 15: So money, Chase Brown, we got to resign Chase right 632 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:40,959 Speaker 15: now as well. 633 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 3: Chase Brown, what a what a great pick he was, absolutely. 634 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 4: But but if you can get these guys early, you 635 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 4: free up money to go do things like pick up 636 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 4: guys up of free agency. 637 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 2: And I just got a feeling the money that they've 638 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 2: thrown at Trey Hendry this year, it's going to go 639 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 2: elsewhere next year. 640 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 4: Yeah. 641 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 15: Go, I don't even resign trades. Get him out of here. 642 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 15: Trade's done, he's builking the injury. Get him out. We 643 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 15: don't want him to let him go. Use the money, 644 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 15: and let's go get some guys that want to be 645 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 15: here and play football. The lady said, tag them. We're 646 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 15: not taking him at thirty something million. 647 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 4: Let him go. 648 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 15: He's too old, all right. Kim Breach is still the 649 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 15: greatest kicker and Bengalo's history. 650 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 3: Baby, love you guys, thank you. 651 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 4: I appreciate that. I disagree with George that he was 652 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 4: milking his injury. If there's anybody that wants to be 653 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 4: out there playing, its Trey Hendrickson and and so often 654 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 4: I hear that when a guy can't get on the field. 655 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 4: They said that about aj Green and his foot injury, 656 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 4: and sometimes there's injuries. He just can't overcome that easily. 657 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 4: And I wish you understand how competitive guys are and 658 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 4: the last thing they want to be doing is sitting 659 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 4: on the bench. Now, there are times when they're angry 660 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 4: about something. I guess that's the possibility, but it's very 661 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 4: rare that I've ever seen anything like that in Cincinnati. 662 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 4: I mean, guys want to. Guys want to. You played 663 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 4: the game because you love to play the game. You 664 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 4: played the game when you were a kid. You play 665 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 4: you can they pay you now, yes, but you still 666 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 4: love the game. You still love playing the game. 667 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 2: All alpha males, they want to be out there. Hey 668 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 2: do we have Kevin in Westwood? 669 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 6: Hey, guys, how are you doing? 670 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 13: You get y'all good? 671 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 3: It was like, let me get you on your mind. 672 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 15: So first off, I'm I'm you. 673 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 13: Know, hey, listen. 674 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 11: Uh. 675 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 17: The Bengals basically get away with right this the leadership 676 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 17: on the team when they got rid. 677 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 11: Of all the veterans that were played. 678 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 17: You got to give guys a chance to get some 679 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 17: chemistry these guys are starting to jail. You do need 680 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 17: those other veterans to come in now. And you know, 681 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 17: we need to use our opportunity to bring in some 682 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 17: veter games so we have some actual leadership. 683 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 11: On this here. I'm talking defense. 684 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 6: It's not offense, as Zach put together a heck of 685 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 6: offense period. 686 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 17: No one can say that Zach did not put together 687 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 17: a great team. Our draft picks have been good. They 688 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 17: just need time to development. That's happening. This thing about 689 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 17: disbanding everybody, and I didn't feel like this four weeks ago, right, 690 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 17: I feel like this four weeks ago, But I do 691 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 17: feel like this now. Things are starting to come together now. 692 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 17: It's not the time to disband things. Lastly, the last 693 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 17: thing I'm gonna say, man, is when you know, when 694 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 17: when people talk about becoming bangalized and. 695 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 15: Things like that, we're always on the threshold of being great. 696 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 17: I don't know any team out here that could have 697 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 17: that number one quarterback not be available for the field. 698 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 17: Bring somebody from. 699 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 3: A whole other team who has never. 700 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 17: Played with this squad and at least have the performance that. 701 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 11: We've had up to this point. Lend you with that 702 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 11: two day, all day and fall there is to us. 703 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 2: All right, Kevin, we'll address all this when we come back. 704 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 2: We've reached the bottom of the hour break. You're listening 705 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 2: to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk with 706 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 2: Jim Breach and Chick Ludwig. We're presented by RNL Carriers. 707 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 2: We are live at the Wings and Rings Beckett Ridge, 708 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 2: forty seven eighty two Plum Square in Westchester till eight 709 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 2: thirty tonight on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 710 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 2: You are listening to the Tri States Chevy Dealers postgame 711 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 2: Sports Talk, presented by RNL Carriers. 712 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 3: He's Jim Breach, this is Chick Ludwig. 713 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 2: We're live at Wings and Rings, Beckett Ridge, forty seven 714 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 2: eighty two Plum Square in Westchester till eight thirty tonight. 715 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 3: And I hope it's okay if I say. 716 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,399 Speaker 2: We're celebrating the bengals thirty seven to fourteenth victory over 717 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, a two game winning streak for the 718 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: second time this year. Jim, can you remember the first one? 719 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,280 Speaker 2: That was against Cleveland and Jacksonville to start the season. 720 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 4: Jacksonville turned out to be pretty good, didn't they. 721 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, they sure did. 722 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 2: Wow, we put a blemish on their schedule, that's for sure. 723 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 4: Briving stepped up big in that game. 724 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 3: Hey, let's go out to the phones. 725 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 2: We appreciate all the callers, Dick and Dayton, Richard. 726 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 3: What's happening? He dropped? Okay, Donald in Mainville? Are you there? 727 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:27,479 Speaker 13: Yes? 728 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 3: I'm here all right? Donald. 729 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,240 Speaker 13: Hey, I just want to say that I appreciate you guys 730 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 13: show each and every week at the game. 731 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 4: Is uh. 732 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 13: I do look forward to every time on the Bengal's place. 733 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 2: We appreciate that we are your guilty pleasure, your guilty pleasure. 734 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 18: Thank you also too. One thing, I want to make 735 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 18: a couple of comments. You know, it was great to 736 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,720 Speaker 18: see that, you know, the team have fun and when today. 737 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 18: It was good to see that because that's kind of 738 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 18: teaming are. But you know what, we cannot bring it back. 739 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 18: J It's stone on that defense. Those two have to 740 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 18: be eliminated from that defense. They're not doing anything to 741 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 18: help the young group out at all. They actually make it. 742 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 2: They're gonna look for safeties. They're gonna look for a 743 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,919 Speaker 2: safety or two. We we know that for next year. 744 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 4: They obviously have to make decisions on the defensive side 745 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 4: of the ball. There's no doubt about that. And Gino 746 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 4: Stone out in space. I mean, his tackling is just 747 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 4: horrendous and huge play. 748 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 13: It's like, you know, Pulp Warner, I mean, what the heck, 749 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 13: you'll keep your head up, hop you get your head across. 750 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 13: What the heck? You know what I mean? 751 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think sometimes there are business decisions and if 752 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 4: you if you notice that, it's usually a bigger guy and. 753 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean a shoulder against Michael Wilson. 754 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,280 Speaker 4: It was a big guy. He's about two fifteen. 755 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 3: It's not enough to get him out of bounce. 756 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, he barely scraped him. 757 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 3: That's exactly right. 758 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,439 Speaker 4: And he's behind him. And he did the exact same 759 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 4: things to Loveland on that play with the Bears where 760 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 4: he went to hit him and he just barely scrapes 761 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 4: by a guy's just standing there. I mean, the. 762 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:24,879 Speaker 13: Good job. It would be a big balls books. 763 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 3: I agree. Oh, I'd love to have back. 764 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 4: What do you what would you think about Flacco starting 765 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 4: the Cleveland game, started the Cleveland game for Cleveland, starts 766 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 4: at the Cleveland game for Cincinnati. 767 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 2: That would be awesome. Other than I think you'll get 768 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 2: some time. I don't see him starting. 769 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 4: I just thought that would be fun. 770 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 2: It would be awesome, It really would. Hey, uh, Donald, 771 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 2: appreciate the call. Richard is back. Richard is back from Dayton. 772 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 2: Hi Richard. 773 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 4: Hey chik, that's Richard. 774 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 3: Thanks for calling back. 775 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,760 Speaker 7: I just want to say something. Joe Burrow comes back 776 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 7: in two weeks lightens up the sky. I mean it 777 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,439 Speaker 7: looks he is a hero for that team. And the 778 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 7: defense just coming back too. I think you know, but 779 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,720 Speaker 7: it was Chase Brown. 780 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 2: Chase Brown talked about it after the game. Having Joe 781 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 2: Burrow on the field just gives a whole gives energy 782 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 2: to this entire team, and it just GI's some confidence. 783 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 4: I agree. And they played games two teams they're not 784 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 4: very good, and with the last good team they played, 785 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 4: what happened. 786 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to shut out by the Baltimore Ravens. 787 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 4: So I mean it's it's the offense is great, has 788 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 4: the potential to consistently be great. But that same offense 789 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,760 Speaker 4: without T Higgins. But they won a lot of games 790 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 4: without Tea or you know, te playing and Jamar or not. 791 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 4: They still won football games. But they've never been shut out. 792 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,479 Speaker 4: So no, Yeah, I'm excited to see what. 793 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 7: Yeah? 794 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 15: Check it? 795 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 2: Guys. All right, tick, thank you, You're welcome, all right, 796 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 2: appreciate it. Happy New Year. Do we have John in Florida? 797 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 3: Yeah? 798 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 13: You do. 799 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 19: You had me last week and then you hung up 800 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,399 Speaker 19: on me, So are you gonna stick with. 801 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 4: Me this week? Hey? 802 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 2: Well we'll stick with you John. I didn't realize that. Okay, 803 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 2: all right, what is on your mind? 804 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 15: Well? 805 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 19: I was discussing about how we have half a billion 806 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 19: dollars in assets that shouldn't be on the field right now, 807 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 19: and you know, we we might have a chance next year, 808 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 19: but I think Falco should be starting, and we sit 809 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 19: all of our guys. We've we've gone from a seven 810 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 19: to nine draft pick to a ten third team draft 811 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 19: pick with these two wins. And the only person that's 812 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,800 Speaker 19: really happy about that is Mike Brown because it saves 813 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 19: him millions of dollars. 814 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 15: Can you argue that point with me? 815 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 19: Or am I right? I? 816 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 4: At some point winning becomes Mike wants to win. He 817 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 4: does want to win. Uh you you make a. 818 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 3: From a fans stand point. 819 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 4: Fans, you know I remember the game, but I'm playing 820 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 4: my Wait what what what I do? 821 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 19: Remember the game against What are we gaining with this win? 822 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 4: Now, Okay, you're looking at from a fans perspective, you're 823 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 4: looking at from a perspective. 824 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 19: Of lots of money on this, But I'm looking at 825 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 19: it as a fans perspective. 826 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,399 Speaker 2: Okay, this club is evaluating, trying to find out who 827 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,439 Speaker 2: can help them win next year. 828 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 3: They're not going to lay down. 829 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,760 Speaker 4: Out this point is why. 830 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 19: We have. We have some defensive guys that have been 831 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,800 Speaker 19: making some great plays here lately. 832 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 15: But I mean, the. 833 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 2: Head coach cannot tell the team. The head coach cannot 834 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,879 Speaker 2: tell the team to relax, lay down, let's lose so 835 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 2: we could get a higher draft pick. 836 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 3: It ain't gonna happen. 837 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 4: Well, no, nobody does. 838 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,839 Speaker 19: But nobody makes any sense that we're risking a half 839 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 19: a billion dollars in assets to get to that point 840 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 19: when when winning right now means nothing other than a 841 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 19: worse draft pick. 842 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 4: As in Max, it's kind of aggravating me. Well, I 843 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 4: think the thing is guys are getting paid to play football. 844 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 4: It's not up to them. 845 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 19: Yeah, very and paid, and you know market like more touchdowns? 846 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 19: He gets like what three more million dollars stacked onto 847 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:07,800 Speaker 19: his thing. 848 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 4: No, idea. I have no idea. 849 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 19: Yeah, they can afford individual accolades where they need to 850 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 19: make their own money, and I'm cool with that. But 851 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 19: if we're going to talk about a team that we 852 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 19: want to love and that we need to have, it 853 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 19: doesn't make any sense risking half a billion dollars and 854 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 19: and an investment and we have literally no defense, and 855 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 19: all of a sudden, these guys and you know what, 856 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 19: I'm happy with the defense. I'm happy with these guys, 857 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 19: these young guys that are coming up and out of 858 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 19: the practice squad and and showing up and making place 859 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:51,320 Speaker 19: that exciting. 860 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 2: So John, what do you want? What do you want 861 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 2: to see? 862 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 14: You want I want to I want to see our team. 863 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 2: You want to see a trap pick? You want to 864 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 2: see them lose? Is that correct? 865 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 13: No? 866 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 4: He wants to chase Higgins and Burrow to sit on 867 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 4: the bench so you don't ever saw you don't expose 868 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 4: them and then see what happens. And if they lose, 869 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 4: then their draft pick maintains wherever it's going to be. 870 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 4: And if they win, okay, they won with without those guys. 871 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 19: But but here's another thing. So, like with Trey Hendrickson 872 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 19: last you know, at the beginning of the season. When 873 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,439 Speaker 19: he sits out, you know what, I wouldn't have paid him. 874 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 19: I just like, just sit out, just sit out, just 875 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 19: stay you're not getting paid. I'm done with these guys 876 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 19: doing all this contract prap because you know, I make 877 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 19: thirty dollars. 878 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,320 Speaker 3: Ann John, and if I want. 879 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 14: Tomorrow chick hang on. 880 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 19: And if I walk into my boss tomorrow and go, 881 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 19: you know what, I'm not showing up for work tomorrow 882 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 19: unless you pay me forty a outs. Do you know 883 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 19: what he's gonna. 884 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 3: Fail me show you the door. I can find somebody. 885 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 2: At twenty five, Trey Hendrickson was going to make sixteen million. 886 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 20: I'm tired. 887 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 2: I'm Trey hendricks was due to make sixteen this year. Okay, 888 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 2: he said he would sit out if they he didn't 889 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 2: get a raise. 890 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 3: Okay, the Bengals he gave. 891 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 2: They had to give him thirteen more million dollars. 892 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,760 Speaker 3: John, We're gonna wind up hanging up on you again. 893 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 2: The Bengals had to give him thirteen more million dollars 894 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 2: because we're travels fast in the NFL that the Bengals 895 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 2: are cheap, they're not paying their players. Nobody will want 896 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 2: to come here, so they had to cough up thirteen 897 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 2: more million dollars give him twenty nine to uh to 898 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 2: face up. 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They're over three hundred 938 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,439 Speaker 2: and fifty BMW centers in the United States, but there's 939 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 2: only one store, the BMW Store where Passion loves Company. 940 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:22,240 Speaker 3: Well. 941 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 2: I love the second touchdown drive for the Bengals and 942 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 2: twelve plays seventy nine yards and loved it when Cody 943 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 2: Ford three hundred and fifty pounds offensive linemen lined up 944 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 2: at full back and paved the way for samajp rn 945 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 2: a one yard slam into the end zone. And during 946 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 2: the broadcast, Dan Horde, the voice of the Bengals, called 947 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 2: it the Cincinnati Zoo because there were seven offensive linemen 948 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 2: and it measures two ninety eight pounds up front blocking 949 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 2: for samaj ap Ryan. 950 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,360 Speaker 3: That was awesome. Worked, it really really worked. 951 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,799 Speaker 2: And when that play happened on there, why don't they 952 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 2: use a big offensive lineman more as a full back. 953 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 2: We saw Sam Hubbard do it at Ohio State. He 954 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 2: did it a few times, I think with the Bengals. 955 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 4: Doomatop Echo domat several times. Yes, So you know, the 956 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 4: only thing is those guys are running in there if 957 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 4: if there's an adjustment that they have to adjust while 958 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,840 Speaker 4: they're going that the linebacker doesn't hit the guy doesn't 959 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 4: come up exactly where you're expecting. Yes, adjusting on the 960 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 4: run at three hundred and something pounds can can be 961 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 4: a little bit difficult at times. Yes, they got to 962 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,359 Speaker 4: It takes a while for them to move. 963 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if there's a flinch then you're five yards back. 964 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:50,959 Speaker 3: We've seen that a couple of times this year too. 965 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,400 Speaker 4: But it was effective. It can be effective, but you 966 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 4: get all that weight. 967 00:52:55,080 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 2: Behind going absolutely and but yeah, Ryan closing out a 968 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 2: twelve place, seventy nine yard drive to me, that was 969 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 2: That was awesome. 970 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 3: And Joe burrow Man. 971 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 2: Talking about using all of his weapons and spreading the 972 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,839 Speaker 2: ball out to all of his playmakers. 973 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:15,840 Speaker 3: It was fun to watch. 974 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 4: So one hundred and thirty yards to Chase and Tee 975 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,399 Speaker 4: and three hundred and five yards passing, which is pretty 976 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 4: amazing if you think about it. You know that most 977 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 4: teams have two wide receivers like the Bengals have, they're 978 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,839 Speaker 4: gonna be getting seventy eighty percent of the yardage, and 979 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,799 Speaker 4: these guys got a small percentage. 980 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:44,399 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase seven catches, sixty yards, two touchdowns, t four 981 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 2: catches fifty nine yards a long gain of thirty nine. 982 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 2: Andre Josvash four catches for forty one yards, Chase Brown 983 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 2: coming out of the backfield, three catches for forty yards, 984 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 2: Mike Caseeki two catches for forty seven yards, including a 985 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 2: thirty two yarder, two catches for Tanner Hudson thirty one yards, 986 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,800 Speaker 2: and one catch to Cody Ford on his twenty ninth 987 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 2: birthday rumbling, stumbling and bumbling down the right sideline for 988 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,440 Speaker 2: twenty one yards. 989 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 3: That was awesome. 990 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,479 Speaker 4: He looked like he'd done it before then he really did. 991 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,280 Speaker 4: He wanted that end zone. He wanted that end zone. Bad. 992 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 3: Oh, that is fantastic. 993 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,399 Speaker 2: Hey, you appreciate all of our callers. Do we have 994 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,720 Speaker 2: Jack in Centerville? 995 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:31,280 Speaker 14: Hello? 996 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 4: Hello? 997 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 3: Just me Green? 998 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 4: Next Jack? 999 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 12: Yeah? 1000 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1001 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 15: With regard to the draft, you had just win your 1002 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 15: last three games. And if you feel the need, uh, great. 1003 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,760 Speaker 21: Up, great up, get get downs or reef or Jackson 1004 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 21: from Ohio State. Other reasons to look positively toward next year. Hey, 1005 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 21: the schedule the should be favorable. The dynamics and rosters 1006 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 21: change between now and next September. But in the AFC 1007 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,319 Speaker 21: you avoid Buffalo and New England. In the West, you 1008 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,400 Speaker 21: avoid the Chargers in Denver. The seventeenth add on game 1009 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 21: is Washington The Texans are away that might be the 1010 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 21: only non division game and you're a non favorite. You've 1011 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:21,360 Speaker 21: got Jacksonville and Champa both at home. Love the schedule, 1012 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,240 Speaker 21: Thanks so much for letting me in, all right. 1013 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 3: Appreciate it. 1014 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 4: The problem with that is there are what four teams 1015 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 4: that won eleven games this year that are leading their divisions, 1016 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,720 Speaker 4: so you just now from year to year it changes. 1017 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,320 Speaker 3: But they lost at least eleven last year, they lost. 1018 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 4: At least eleven. I'm sorry. Yes, And let's see Jacksonville's 1019 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,280 Speaker 4: joint team to ever have with four wins of previous 1020 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 4: year to go to twelve wins this year, so you 1021 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 4: never know. And the Bengals, and why can't the Bengals 1022 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 4: be one of those teams, you know, have double digit 1023 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 4: losses and turn it around. They're very capable, certainly offensively, 1024 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:04,280 Speaker 4: and again we've discussing the defense. They have to again, 1025 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 4: they've got to make some good choices in the draft. 1026 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 4: They have to continue to develop the guys, which seems 1027 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 4: to be happening. This is probably as good a stretch 1028 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 4: of young guys really playing well. And then they have 1029 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:22,440 Speaker 4: to get some free agents that can impact them, particularly 1030 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:23,720 Speaker 4: in the defensive line. 1031 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,279 Speaker 3: Getting a push you're so right, Jim, You're so right. 1032 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 2: Istant pressure on a quarterback eases the pressure on the secondary. 1033 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,040 Speaker 3: You don't have to cover as long. 1034 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,240 Speaker 4: Even today. I mean, they had four sacks, but nobody 1035 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 4: got there quickly. They had they coverge secks. These guys 1036 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,439 Speaker 4: did a great job. And the guys just kept going, going, going, 1037 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 4: and eventually got the uh got the sacks. But every 1038 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,240 Speaker 4: once in a while, you know, Hendrick, that's where Trey 1039 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 4: comes in, where he can beat a guy quickly and 1040 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 4: get around the corner and impact the quarterback. And that 1041 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,239 Speaker 4: quarterback's on the blind side, and he's got to worry 1042 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,799 Speaker 4: about that. And right now, I don't think they're too concerned. 1043 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,880 Speaker 4: But four sacks and four sacks, so it worked. 1044 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,400 Speaker 3: Hey do we have Sean and Clifton? 1045 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 13: We do? 1046 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 4: Indeed? 1047 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 3: All right? 1048 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 14: Shot, Hey mister throw uh wow? Did you bring you 1049 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 14: too good to talk to you? 1050 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 22: You got me? 1051 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 14: You got me? 1052 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I appreciate you. 1053 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:29,000 Speaker 22: Okay, okay, it's a true story. If I could, I 1054 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 22: know it's it's becoming almost a third rail, but. 1055 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 13: Your earlier collar, John. 1056 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 22: If I could, I think it's a head and heart 1057 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 22: type of situation. And I love your perspective on it, 1058 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:47,400 Speaker 22: uh and just for brief my resume perspective. My father 1059 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 22: has worked for the Bengals and Reds for the last 1060 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 22: fifty years. My brother Kasey and I were at the 1061 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 22: Froze Bool. So there's no question with every ounce of 1062 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 22: our being, we want the Bengals to win, period. We 1063 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,920 Speaker 22: want every play to be a positive play the Bengals, period. 1064 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:10,440 Speaker 23: And yet that's the heart the head says, if they 1065 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 23: don't pull out the victory, they get a better draft position. 1066 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 23: If they don't play their starters, the starters don't get hurt. 1067 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 23: And I'm not suggesting they don't play the starters, and 1068 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,960 Speaker 23: I'm not suggesting that they thank But isn't there a 1069 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:30,360 Speaker 23: part of you, just a small part of you? It says, Oh, 1070 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 23: these are period victories, and I know there's the encandidate right, 1071 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 23: the momentum going into next year. 1072 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:39,760 Speaker 13: I get it. 1073 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 22: You don't want folks just sitting on the bench. Totally 1074 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 22: get it. The Burrow gets hurt in one of these 1075 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,440 Speaker 22: games and we're like, what was that about? 1076 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:55,040 Speaker 2: Why there's always that yang and yang. 1077 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 4: When it comes to football, that's always a possible outcome, 1078 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 4: whether it's the last game of the season, whether it's 1079 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,920 Speaker 4: the second game of the season, it's chance of Jacksonville, 1080 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 4: or why guys don't play in the preseason because they 1081 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 4: might get hurt. They might get hurt in practice. There's 1082 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 4: always that possibility. That's part of the game. I'm the 1083 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 4: unfortunate part of the game. And I get what I 1084 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 4: get what you're saying, and I get what John was saying. 1085 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 4: I get I get it. But having played, and I 1086 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 4: just don't think guys feel they don't. I feel like, 1087 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,439 Speaker 4: of course, it's not there, it's not their decision, it's 1088 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,320 Speaker 4: not has to come from higher It. 1089 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 22: Would be asinine to have coaches playing the subs last 1090 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 22: three games of the year, when you're eliminated from the playoffs, right, 1091 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 22: but don't be the amount to essentially a winter preseason, 1092 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 22: all of them, but with higher stake, with higher stakes. 1093 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:04,000 Speaker 4: Well, I think there is. 1094 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 2: Like people pay fair question, and it's when I go 1095 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 2: to a game, I want to see the best players. 1096 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:15,960 Speaker 3: If you if you. 1097 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 2: Worry about hitting the wall at the Indy five hundred, 1098 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 2: you're going to hit the wall. If you worry about 1099 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,479 Speaker 2: getting hurt, you're going to get hurt. 1100 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 3: You cannot. Yeah, so. 1101 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's It's a conundrum that's gone on for 1102 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 4: as long as people have played football. 1103 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 2: And Sean appreciate the call. Man, Thanks so much. Do 1104 01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,520 Speaker 2: we have Jeff and Dayton? 1105 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 20: Hi, great show tonight by the way, as always, Thanks 1106 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:57,960 Speaker 20: so much, Jeff. Let me say this, it's good to 1107 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,760 Speaker 20: hear yours as well, my friend. Let me say this 1108 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,240 Speaker 20: about draft. Ruben Bain is a highly touted defensive end. 1109 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 20: He has thirty but he didn't have very good stats. 1110 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 20: You know, we've been through this before with lineman. His 1111 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 20: college stats over he has thirty point seventy five inch 1112 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:16,800 Speaker 20: arm lengths. 1113 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:18,680 Speaker 15: Are you kidding me? 1114 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,840 Speaker 20: I've never seen a lineman that had defensive end had 1115 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,440 Speaker 20: that short of arm so he could drop. And I 1116 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,880 Speaker 20: hope the Bengals don't draft him there because that's going 1117 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 20: to be a problem. I saying, yeah, most offensive lineman's 1118 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,840 Speaker 20: length now is like thirty four inches and a lot 1119 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 20: of them go to thirty five now and thirty inch arms. 1120 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 20: I just boy, they're going to have their hands on 1121 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:43,439 Speaker 20: his chest every time. 1122 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:45,200 Speaker 4: Uh what? 1123 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:45,840 Speaker 3: Uh? 1124 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:51,560 Speaker 2: Pete Brown, Mike's brother, Pete, he was he was the 1125 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 2: pro at hand size, arm length size, all those little 1126 01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 2: uh you know, all those measurements. 1127 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,680 Speaker 3: That was the Pete Brown. 1128 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,600 Speaker 4: I get that Tim Crumray was two hundred and fifty 1129 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 4: five pounds coming out fifty five sixty or seven to 1130 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 4: come out of college. He wasn't big enough, wasn't fast enough, 1131 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 4: wasn't fast enough. It wasn't anything he just said. But 1132 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 4: you know what he could do. He could flat out 1133 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 4: play football. 1134 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:19,439 Speaker 3: That's right. 1135 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,919 Speaker 4: And give me a guy who can play football over 1136 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:27,200 Speaker 4: and having all the perfect maasorables and seems to be 1137 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:33,919 Speaker 4: lacking in production. Give me the guys producing. Yes, Now, 1138 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:35,280 Speaker 4: some of those guys can be. 1139 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 2: All I saw against Texas A and m was Ruben 1140 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,440 Speaker 2: Bain wreaking havoc. 1141 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 21: Against Maggie and you got him. 1142 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 6: You got to watch young guys who did he play against? 1143 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 6: What was the left tackle? Left offensive tackle against out 1144 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:59,120 Speaker 6: comes into play as well. Look, he might turn out 1145 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:00,680 Speaker 6: to be a good player. I don't know, but that's 1146 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 6: thirty point just scared me. Now I'm going to say, 1147 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 6: you're this has been the the two most. 1148 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,880 Speaker 20: Exciting weeks to watch the Bengals that I've had. 1149 01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,280 Speaker 11: Actually, I listened to him on the radio. 1150 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 4: In a law You know it's exciting when lap them. 1151 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:25,600 Speaker 11: Yeah, Jeff, Jim no. 1152 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,960 Speaker 4: I just said, you know what's exciting when lap Is 1153 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,440 Speaker 4: is calling that he's having find in a game like. 1154 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,720 Speaker 2: This, Jeff, we got to run man, appreciate the call 1155 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:39,440 Speaker 2: and wishing you, wishing. 1156 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 3: You a happy, happy New Year, no doubt. 1157 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 2: Well before we reached h the bottom of the hour 1158 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,800 Speaker 2: break here, let's review the Guilty Windows. Window of opportunity 1159 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,720 Speaker 2: brought to you by Guilty Windows. The heat of quality 1160 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:57,080 Speaker 2: Windows is trusting the pros Guilty Windows. How about this 1161 01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:01,400 Speaker 2: is right after Evan McPherson's fifty seven yard field goal 1162 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,880 Speaker 2: giving the Bengals a sixteen to seven lead, the Arizona 1163 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 2: Cardinals go three and out and then key Sean Williams, 1164 01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 2: rookie from Indiana picked up off waivers from Pittsburgh on 1165 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 2: December sixteen, returns a punt forty three yards Jim to 1166 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,520 Speaker 2: Arizona's thirty six yard line. Chase Brown goes for a 1167 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,240 Speaker 2: twenty five yard run, and then it all set up 1168 01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:30,280 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow's eight yard touchdown passed to Jamar Chase one 1169 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:34,000 Speaker 2: fifteen to go before halftime, twenty three to seven lead. 1170 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:38,680 Speaker 2: That punt return was the window of opportunity that was. 1171 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 4: Huge terrible punt. Lowe bounced one time right to him. 1172 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,040 Speaker 4: He had twenty twenty five yards in front of him. 1173 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 4: Guys are spread out, and he took advantage of every 1174 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 4: bit of it. His eyes had to be like saucers. 1175 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,240 Speaker 4: He saw all that room. Oh man, I'm going he's 1176 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,120 Speaker 4: done a great job of returning puntzel hickoffs. 1177 01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 2: Yes, so finding that niche take advantage of his that's 1178 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:02,800 Speaker 2: what that's. 1179 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 4: You're just trying to find where you fit, you know, 1180 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 4: until you get an opportunity to play on. But your 1181 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,320 Speaker 4: deal might be special teams for your whole career, that's right, 1182 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,640 Speaker 4: and become the best at what you can what you're doing. 1183 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,280 Speaker 2: And you're getting you're still getting paid. If you could 1184 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,480 Speaker 2: be a wrecking ball on special teams, there's a place 1185 01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 2: for you. 1186 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's fantastic. 1187 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 2: Well, their punter got off a sixty three yard or 1188 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:25,640 Speaker 2: coffin corner. 1189 01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,200 Speaker 4: Oh that was that was a beautiful punt. 1190 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:28,000 Speaker 3: That was awesome. 1191 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 2: And you you asked yourself, whatever happened to the coffin corner. 1192 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:36,640 Speaker 4: Punts, because they're very difficult to do. Yes, I can 1193 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,160 Speaker 4: tell you that the guys that were coffin corner punters 1194 01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,280 Speaker 4: probably hit as many into the end zone as they 1195 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,600 Speaker 4: got inside the twenty. Okay, Now, now, if you're not 1196 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,880 Speaker 4: fifteen ahead of your inside the twenty, if you're not 1197 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 4: like twenty and you know, twenty inside the twenty and 1198 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:58,080 Speaker 4: three touchbacks, four touchbacks, you're really having not a very 1199 01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,200 Speaker 4: good year as far as that goes. So, yeah, the 1200 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:01,520 Speaker 4: comfin quire difficult. 1201 01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:03,240 Speaker 3: Hey, We've got to take a break. 1202 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:08,280 Speaker 2: We're live at Wings and Rings, Beckett Ridge, Plumb Square, Westchester. 1203 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 3: He's Jim Breechs. 1204 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,640 Speaker 2: This is Chick Ludwig, and you're listening to the Tri 1205 01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:15,800 Speaker 2: State Chevy Dealers postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL carriers 1206 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:21,960 Speaker 2: on seven hundred WLW and ESPN fifteen thirty. You are 1207 01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,080 Speaker 2: listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame Sports Talk 1208 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:30,040 Speaker 2: presented by RNL carriers Jim Breachs Chick Ludwig. We're live 1209 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,439 Speaker 2: at Wings and Rings, Beckett Ridge, forty seven eighty two 1210 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,920 Speaker 2: Plumb Square in Westchester till eight thirty tonight. 1211 01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,760 Speaker 3: Bengals win thirty seven to fourteen. 1212 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,880 Speaker 2: That's on top of last week's forty five to twenty 1213 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:48,040 Speaker 2: one victory over the Miami Dolphins. This week, the hup 1214 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,800 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals went down hard, but man, you got 1215 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,520 Speaker 2: to feel for them. Three and thirteen losers of eight 1216 01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 2: straight after a two both of these teams started two 1217 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:02,440 Speaker 2: to Oh incredible, they lose their quarterbacks. Kyler Murray's gone 1218 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,120 Speaker 2: for Arizona, and of course Joe Burrow was out an 1219 01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 2: extended period of time for the Cincinnati Bengals. So but 1220 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,880 Speaker 2: it was good to see Cincinnati bounce back here with 1221 01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,200 Speaker 2: these two straight wins. 1222 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 3: A lot of. 1223 01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,520 Speaker 2: Folks have problems with it because, oh, it's costing them 1224 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,920 Speaker 2: a draft pick. I don't buy it. When you're a 1225 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,360 Speaker 2: paying customer, you want to see the best players play. 1226 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,600 Speaker 2: They did get Joe out in the fourth quarter. Heck, 1227 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,920 Speaker 2: with a minute thirty eight to go in the third quarter, 1228 01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,360 Speaker 2: he was done for the game, So that was a 1229 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,520 Speaker 2: good sign. But the Bengals win, and as we said 1230 01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,400 Speaker 2: at the top of the show, it's a reminder of 1231 01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:43,840 Speaker 2: what this team can do and what hopefully it will 1232 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:44,960 Speaker 2: do next year. 1233 01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:51,520 Speaker 4: Jim, Yes, yeah, I agree, But I'm most excited to 1234 01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:55,240 Speaker 4: see the development of the defense and the improvement and 1235 01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,560 Speaker 4: particularly in the defensive backfield because they were a period 1236 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,360 Speaker 4: during the season with guys running around wide open every 1237 01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,200 Speaker 4: all over the field and you're just not seeing that. 1238 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:04,520 Speaker 3: Now. 1239 01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,680 Speaker 4: Guys, when they do catch balls, there's guys really close 1240 01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,040 Speaker 4: to them. They're making plays on the ball. And that's 1241 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 4: a big that's a big step up. That's that's huge, 1242 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:14,560 Speaker 4: and I'm really excited about that. 1243 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:14,960 Speaker 3: Oh. 1244 01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,799 Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's go out to the filch Garry is in Madison, 1245 01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,400 Speaker 2: Garry here. 1246 01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 24: Thanks for taking a call. They got a couple of issues. 1247 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,160 Speaker 24: One you already touched on a little bit. I think 1248 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:31,760 Speaker 24: if a guy's got a contract and he's able to play, 1249 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,040 Speaker 24: he needs to play, no matter what the record of 1250 01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:37,000 Speaker 24: the team is, whatever, because the fans expect that, okay, 1251 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 24: and they need when when they got tickets to the 1252 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,040 Speaker 24: ball game, they need to go and need to see 1253 01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 24: who they want to see, okay, who they're rooting for. 1254 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:49,240 Speaker 24: And then my second com man, the thing that this 1255 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 24: defense is lacking more than anything at all, is what 1256 01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:56,920 Speaker 24: you call a good old middle linebacker Okay, in my opinion, 1257 01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:01,040 Speaker 24: someone that's out there on the defense what to do 1258 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,800 Speaker 24: what he's seeing, and someone that can key all on 1259 01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:10,040 Speaker 24: the on the quarterback if he's uh, you know, dropping 1260 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 24: off the running back or he's dropping back for a 1261 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 24: face and that's my opinion. 1262 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,920 Speaker 4: I'll hang up on the chow comment. So I think 1263 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:23,920 Speaker 4: they're a good example. Rocan Smith at Baltimore, he changed 1264 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,759 Speaker 4: their defense last year when he was picked up. Fred 1265 01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,880 Speaker 4: Warner is another example of that old time. But they 1266 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 4: can play all aspects. He can cover guys, but they 1267 01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 4: can come they come up and fill a hole in 1268 01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:36,639 Speaker 4: a heartbeat. 1269 01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,800 Speaker 3: Does that Rams Corner or forty nine ers or forty 1270 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:41,240 Speaker 3: nine ers? 1271 01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,760 Speaker 4: Okay, yes, yeah, so yeah. The linebacker is a little 1272 01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,160 Speaker 4: bit different today than it used to be, but some 1273 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,440 Speaker 4: of them still play like those old time middle linebackers, 1274 01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:51,320 Speaker 4: just just moving a lot faster. 1275 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:51,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1276 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:57,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, the days of Dick Buckis and uh gosh, Tommy 1277 01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:04,120 Speaker 2: Nobis of the Atlanta Falcons. You're going with a little 1278 01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:07,759 Speaker 2: bit smaller, faster guys. The game is just so fast now. 1279 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:11,439 Speaker 4: As soon as they went to the five yard bump 1280 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 4: rule in nineteen seventy. 1281 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,519 Speaker 3: Nine, well because of Isaac Curtis. 1282 01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,920 Speaker 4: Yes, and I was in a meeting when I was 1283 01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,760 Speaker 4: with the Raiders. They you know, the referees come in 1284 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:24,000 Speaker 4: and talk about the new rules. The guy specifically called it. 1285 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:25,920 Speaker 4: I don't care what they say in Pittsburgh about being 1286 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,280 Speaker 4: the mel blot rule. The guy said, this is the 1287 01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:33,160 Speaker 4: Isaac Curtis rule, absolutely, and the five yard bump that 1288 01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:34,720 Speaker 4: changed everything from then on. 1289 01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:39,800 Speaker 2: Because mel Blunt blasted him all the way down the field. 1290 01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 4: Well, the Raiders were doing it too, and there were 1291 01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:45,400 Speaker 4: a lot of teams doing that. And the Steelers defense 1292 01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,439 Speaker 4: obviously was so great. All their players were great, so 1293 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,240 Speaker 4: they were beating people up pretty good. 1294 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:50,679 Speaker 3: That's right. 1295 01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,680 Speaker 2: And then Isaac Curtis the five yard bump rule and 1296 01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:54,960 Speaker 2: changed the game. 1297 01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,000 Speaker 4: It did, so people throw the ball a lot more. 1298 01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:01,200 Speaker 4: You need guys running on the Your linebackers have to 1299 01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,000 Speaker 4: be able to run. You got to be able to 1300 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 4: cover guys. I mean, look how much the defensive struggled 1301 01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,479 Speaker 4: against running backs coming out of the backfield or running 1302 01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,200 Speaker 4: backs just getting dumped off. If you can't run, those 1303 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,520 Speaker 4: guys are gonna go for tons of yards. And they're 1304 01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:17,880 Speaker 4: doing a better job with all that. 1305 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, the screen passes that just murdered this team, and 1306 01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:26,160 Speaker 2: the misdirection, some of that's getting solved right now. 1307 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,200 Speaker 4: Well, even tight ends, you gotta be able to run. 1308 01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:32,640 Speaker 4: Have a linebacker. And yeah, McBride had ten catches, but 1309 01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,360 Speaker 4: he had seventy six yards and I think I think 1310 01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,320 Speaker 4: four or five came on the last drive whims Old. 1311 01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,439 Speaker 4: The whole second team was in there. And if you 1312 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,280 Speaker 4: hold a guy to tank to seventy six yards on 1313 01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,880 Speaker 4: ten catches, you've done pretty well, actually, particularly when he's 1314 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,200 Speaker 4: your guy, your top guy. 1315 01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:54,160 Speaker 2: Thirteen targets, ten catches, seventy six yards, seven point six 1316 01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,680 Speaker 2: a catch, a long game of eighteen and a touchdown. 1317 01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,120 Speaker 3: So he is a tremendous player. 1318 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,760 Speaker 4: Tremenz player. But they really slowed him down today and 1319 01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:07,160 Speaker 4: they he wasn't really, he didn't impact the game like 1320 01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,040 Speaker 4: he has in games. 1321 01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,679 Speaker 2: Hey, let's go stick with the phones here, Ken and Mason, 1322 01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:18,320 Speaker 2: Kenny Chick, how you doing tonight? Fantastic, it's been a while, 1323 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 2: Ken go. 1324 01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:21,360 Speaker 3: One of the good. 1325 01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,479 Speaker 12: Guys in this world in Jim Breech. Jim, I want 1326 01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,280 Speaker 12: to take you back to acceleration training with Rocky to 1327 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 12: Colby and Greg to Colby. Oh my god, Jim Crumbrise, 1328 01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:39,240 Speaker 12: Hal Morris and the King of acceleration training, Eric Thomas. Kick. 1329 01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,080 Speaker 12: We were all kicking button back then in those days. 1330 01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:43,360 Speaker 3: Oh awesome. 1331 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:43,960 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1332 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:50,320 Speaker 12: About the button. Yeah, they were too. Hey, guys, don't 1333 01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:53,639 Speaker 12: want to bring up one thing. The Bengals salary cap 1334 01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:58,000 Speaker 12: is so unbalanced. I mean, they're gonna have a hard 1335 01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,320 Speaker 12: time with free agency, kick just on the amount of 1336 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:05,160 Speaker 12: money they're paying the three main guys. You know, Henrickson's 1337 01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 12: money will free up a little bit, but that's still 1338 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,599 Speaker 12: I don't know how many marquee free agents they're gonna 1339 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 12: be able to afford. 1340 01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:17,000 Speaker 4: That's the reason they have to draft and develop so well. 1341 01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,920 Speaker 4: They Like, you have a quarterback on a rookie deal, 1342 01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,040 Speaker 4: you can fill in big time free agents and then 1343 01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,639 Speaker 4: obviously that changes over time. Well, just like this on defense, 1344 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:34,280 Speaker 4: maybe you have one centerpiece, like Chris Jones was in 1345 01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:36,760 Speaker 4: Kansas City, and you kind of fill in around him 1346 01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,439 Speaker 4: with a bunch of young guys that can play. We 1347 01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,360 Speaker 4: weren't sure that was happening. Maybe we're starting to see 1348 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:46,120 Speaker 4: some of that happen in the defensive backfield. The linebackers 1349 01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:50,320 Speaker 4: are playing better. They you know, these young linebackers have 1350 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:54,280 Speaker 4: played half of a season now or more, and it's 1351 01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:56,280 Speaker 4: starting to click a little bit, and it's kind of 1352 01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:57,599 Speaker 4: exciting to see what's happening. 1353 01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:03,759 Speaker 12: I agree with you, You're right. I think DJ Turner 1354 01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,599 Speaker 12: is going to be a heck FO player. I see 1355 01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,280 Speaker 12: some improvement by a couple of other guys. But hey, guys, 1356 01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,320 Speaker 12: let's be honest. They have not faced three great quarterbacks 1357 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:16,040 Speaker 12: in the last three games, and I still see Josh 1358 01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,880 Speaker 12: Allen murder in them. 1359 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they lost a tough one today. Uh they went 1360 01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,679 Speaker 2: for the two point conversion, did not get it. Receiver 1361 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:29,800 Speaker 2: was open, but Josh just misfired. But they and they 1362 01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:30,639 Speaker 2: fall today to. 1363 01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:36,080 Speaker 4: You know, in that game against Buffalo, they did it. 1364 01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,040 Speaker 4: They did a decent job, and they ran the ball, 1365 01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:42,360 Speaker 4: hit his legs and cooks. They really would beat them, 1366 01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,759 Speaker 4: that's right. And Alan at the end of the game. 1367 01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:53,320 Speaker 4: I part part of covering coverage is pressure. If your 1368 01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,400 Speaker 4: quarterback and stand back there and throw, I don't care 1369 01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,439 Speaker 4: who you are, trying to cover somebody you can't. It's 1370 01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,640 Speaker 4: hard to cover for five seconds and these guys are 1371 01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,720 Speaker 4: going full speed, so well, you know, pressure on the 1372 01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:06,880 Speaker 4: quarter go ahead. 1373 01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,160 Speaker 12: Well, and what you're saying, though, that's the two linebackers 1374 01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,599 Speaker 12: in experience. I mean, a lot of that break down 1375 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:17,559 Speaker 12: with Allen's success was due to their line their young linebackers. 1376 01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,160 Speaker 13: You know, they still have a lot of. 1377 01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,040 Speaker 12: Holes they've got to fill on defense. I mean, I'm 1378 01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,200 Speaker 12: you know, I think they're playing a little better, but 1379 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,479 Speaker 12: I wouldn't. It wouldn't make a whole lot. These last 1380 01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,559 Speaker 12: three games not been against you know, like I said, 1381 01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:35,479 Speaker 12: top flight offenses, you're right now. 1382 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:39,040 Speaker 4: But they've played they played better against. They gave up 1383 01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:43,240 Speaker 4: twenty four points against Baltimore, they gave up fourteen against 1384 01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,400 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh a couple weeks before that. They did give up 1385 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,200 Speaker 4: with thirty two the next time they played him. But 1386 01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,559 Speaker 4: so they've had four or five games in there, and 1387 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:55,440 Speaker 4: some of those against decent offenses that have shown improvement. 1388 01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,400 Speaker 4: You know, they they Gotti will stop the run and 1389 01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,559 Speaker 4: they're getting better. Today they were, they were great. Everybody 1390 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,840 Speaker 4: was doing their job. There was no place for these 1391 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,840 Speaker 4: guys to go. And you know when you run a 1392 01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:08,920 Speaker 4: deep when when these guys are where they're supposed to be, 1393 01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:13,880 Speaker 4: it's hard to run the ball. So, yes, these last 1394 01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,920 Speaker 4: two offenses weren't great. They're playing a rookie quarterback and actually, 1395 01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,400 Speaker 4: as they said earlier, I think Jacoby Brissett runs that 1396 01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:26,120 Speaker 4: offense better than Kyler Murray does. But yeah, they have changed, 1397 01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:30,360 Speaker 4: they've cut changes. They but you don't want to throw 1398 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:34,560 Speaker 4: everybody out that has made a jump this year, and 1399 01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:35,880 Speaker 4: then all of a sudden say, okay, we're going to 1400 01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:37,720 Speaker 4: start over. I think you have to go with the 1401 01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,720 Speaker 4: guys that are improving and then figure out how you 1402 01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:44,439 Speaker 4: plug in guys in the areas where you really have need. 1403 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:48,680 Speaker 2: Well, the salary cap will go up. Plus if they 1404 01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,600 Speaker 2: don't bring Trey back, they will have some money to 1405 01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:56,200 Speaker 2: at least get one or two free agents. And uh, 1406 01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:57,799 Speaker 2: we've got to run ken. 1407 01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,360 Speaker 3: Always awesome hearing from you. 1408 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,040 Speaker 12: All right, guys, have a good one. 1409 01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,360 Speaker 2: All right, take care And just a reminder of fans 1410 01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:07,800 Speaker 2: out there to postgame sports talks brought to you in 1411 01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:11,040 Speaker 2: part by AE Door and Window Company. They sell the 1412 01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:15,000 Speaker 2: best and service the rest. And I got a text 1413 01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,720 Speaker 2: here from a good friend Andrew Williams, and Jimmy wants 1414 01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:20,920 Speaker 2: to tell He wants you to tell the story again 1415 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:25,120 Speaker 2: about your number, how you went from ten to three. 1416 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,320 Speaker 4: All right, So when the Bengals called I fly out, 1417 01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:36,360 Speaker 4: they end up signing me and choose your number. Well, 1418 01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,280 Speaker 4: I was three in college. I was five with the 1419 01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,680 Speaker 4: Raiders because three was Daryl Lamonica and they wouldn't give 1420 01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,519 Speaker 4: me three. So I went with five. And I get 1421 01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:48,720 Speaker 4: here and they said, we don't have single digits. We 1422 01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:52,360 Speaker 4: started ten, and Chris Barr had been ten. I didn't 1423 01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,320 Speaker 4: really want to be Chris Barr, especially since he had 1424 01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,800 Speaker 4: just left right. Yeah, but I didn't really like the 1425 01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,439 Speaker 4: other numbers, so I went with ten because that was 1426 01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:04,000 Speaker 4: the lowest number available. And I told I said to 1427 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,000 Speaker 4: Tom Gray, if we ever go to single digits, I'd 1428 01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:07,759 Speaker 4: like to have three. 1429 01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:08,280 Speaker 3: Yes. 1430 01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,000 Speaker 4: Well, Boomer gets drafted in eighty four. Part of his 1431 01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:14,760 Speaker 4: contract negotiation is that he would get seven. So we 1432 01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,519 Speaker 4: go to a single digit and I come in mini 1433 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,080 Speaker 4: camp and there's three hanging in my locker. It was 1434 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,040 Speaker 4: pretty I was pretty excited about that. 1435 01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,639 Speaker 2: That is fantastic what a number does for a guy. 1436 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:25,559 Speaker 2: I love it. 1437 01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:31,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, and really for me. Three. My idol was Jan 1438 01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,720 Speaker 4: stener Rude. When I was ten years old. I saw 1439 01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:37,840 Speaker 4: him kicking the chamellia bowl. I followed him. I tried 1440 01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,160 Speaker 4: to find out everything I could about him. And that 1441 01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:44,360 Speaker 4: was my number because of Jan stener Ut So I 1442 01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:47,160 Speaker 4: got a chance to wear it. 1443 01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:48,000 Speaker 3: Fantastic. 1444 01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:50,920 Speaker 2: Hey, let's go out through the phones and welcoming John 1445 01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,439 Speaker 2: and Cedarville. 1446 01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:59,800 Speaker 14: John thy good afternoon, he recorded, and Jim. 1447 01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:06,920 Speaker 4: Hi, John, all right, Hey, this is what's your brother? 1448 01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:11,120 Speaker 14: This is why who they's supposed to feel like, isn't it? 1449 01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:13,160 Speaker 4: Yes? 1450 01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:14,439 Speaker 3: Yes it is. 1451 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,600 Speaker 14: Hey, I got a question for the two of you. 1452 01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,720 Speaker 14: I don't know what the answer would be, but, uh, 1453 01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,120 Speaker 14: we've seen go Flacco back to back weeks in a row, 1454 01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,920 Speaker 14: and what's the chance of him playing against Cleveland and 1455 01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,920 Speaker 14: being the quarterback that has played against both apponements? 1456 01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:37,000 Speaker 2: That funny you should ask that because off the air, 1457 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:41,280 Speaker 2: Jim Breach said, wouldn't it be cool if he started 1458 01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:47,280 Speaker 2: against against the uh Browns when he started against the 1459 01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:48,360 Speaker 2: Bengals in the opener? 1460 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:52,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question. Well has it happened? I 1461 01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:52,400 Speaker 4: don't know. 1462 01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:57,000 Speaker 14: Well that that flies through my mind and I thought 1463 01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,559 Speaker 14: that too. Took about him starting and made be uh 1464 01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:06,360 Speaker 14: uh Gardner Garner getting these backed against Joe Flacco and 1465 01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:12,400 Speaker 14: and maybe keep Joe burrow Han's way. But uh, you 1466 01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:15,679 Speaker 14: guys are talking about these guys should whether they should 1467 01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,800 Speaker 14: be playing or not be playing. Of course they should 1468 01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,000 Speaker 14: be playing. It's like if I've got to go to 1469 01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,919 Speaker 14: the grocery store for a loaf of bread, I shouldn't 1470 01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:25,720 Speaker 14: go because I'm not getting the wreck, you know? 1471 01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:29,680 Speaker 2: Come on, Well, and they want to finish four and 1472 01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,839 Speaker 2: two in the division. You know, a victory over Cleveland 1473 01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,080 Speaker 2: will give him a four and two record in the division. 1474 01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,519 Speaker 3: They want that and not three and three. 1475 01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,599 Speaker 14: It's possible they can make a deal on Draft Day 1476 01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:45,200 Speaker 14: with Henderson too, if they don't want to resign him. 1477 01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,400 Speaker 14: But I think the OSI the year. I hate to 1478 01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:49,519 Speaker 14: say it, but you know. 1479 01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,880 Speaker 2: Well he'll be all He'll be a free agent, so 1480 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:56,240 Speaker 2: the Bengals won't have rights to him to make a 1481 01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:59,400 Speaker 2: trade or anything on on draft Day. 1482 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,400 Speaker 4: Even if they they would have, they would have had. 1483 01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:04,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, they had to. 1484 01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:11,439 Speaker 2: Sign him and then attempted dealing franchise or franchise tagame, 1485 01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:16,800 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Yes, anyway, I want to give a shout 1486 01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:18,960 Speaker 2: out here to court. It was awesome to have Corey 1487 01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:24,920 Speaker 2: Kiner come back. Roger Bacon ls U University of Cincinnati 1488 01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:28,439 Speaker 2: and he started with the San Francisco forty nine ers 1489 01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,320 Speaker 2: as an undrafted college free agent. 1490 01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:31,400 Speaker 4: Uh. 1491 01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:35,240 Speaker 2: He was released with a with an injury I believe 1492 01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:39,200 Speaker 2: to his ankle. Minnesota picked him up, he was on 1493 01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:42,280 Speaker 2: their practice squad and then the Arizona Cardinals grabbed him. 1494 01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,639 Speaker 2: So congratulations of Corey Kiner only had one carry today 1495 01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,880 Speaker 2: for two yards, but he's getting paid. 1496 01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:50,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it. 1497 01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:58,840 Speaker 25: Uh Hey Premier Stewart getting the first sat Absolutely, yes, rookie, Yes, 1498 01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:04,639 Speaker 25: he finally way so I mean saying about his low 1499 01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:08,599 Speaker 25: production of facts coming out of college. He's already got 1500 01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,040 Speaker 25: one on the board in the NFL. 1501 01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:15,840 Speaker 3: So it's a great sign. Yeah, that was great John. 1502 01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:20,080 Speaker 2: As always, we appreciate the call, and Happy New Year 1503 01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:20,599 Speaker 2: to you. 1504 01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:24,920 Speaker 14: Happy new to your to you and Jim as well. 1505 01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:27,240 Speaker 4: Thank you, John, I appreciate. 1506 01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:33,320 Speaker 2: Today's ruler of the Jungle was Drake Kirkpatrick, first round 1507 01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,120 Speaker 2: Drea pick out of Alabama. And one of my favorite 1508 01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:42,160 Speaker 2: stories is when I left the Bengals beat, I'm at 1509 01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:43,879 Speaker 2: training camp at. 1510 01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:47,559 Speaker 3: The stadium and. 1511 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:53,880 Speaker 2: Mike Zimmer, defensive coordinator, is meeting with Adam Jones and 1512 01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:56,680 Speaker 2: Drake Kirkpatrick on the sideline and he sees me. He 1513 01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:00,479 Speaker 2: stops and he starts walking toward me about ten twenty 1514 01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:01,880 Speaker 2: yards shakes my hand. 1515 01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:05,679 Speaker 3: I'm there, unbelievable. I love Mike Zimmer. 1516 01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,640 Speaker 2: And when I had him on the air at WNE 1517 01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,880 Speaker 2: in Dayton, at the end of the interview, he said, Chick, 1518 01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,960 Speaker 2: need we need to talk more there? What are you 1519 01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:18,120 Speaker 2: kidding me? How awesome was that. I love Mike Zimmer, 1520 01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,240 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, guy absolutely loved him. 1521 01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:24,160 Speaker 4: Tough, tough, tough on the players, yes, but they loved 1522 01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:28,120 Speaker 4: and respected him so much. You know. I remember Drake 1523 01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,920 Speaker 4: Kirkpatrick's being the one they accepted and Monday night game accepted. 1524 01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,719 Speaker 4: Peyton Manning ran back for a touchdown that was kind 1525 01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:36,599 Speaker 4: of sealed that game. 1526 01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:37,520 Speaker 3: Fantastic. 1527 01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,000 Speaker 2: Well, hey, we've got to take the top of the 1528 01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:44,040 Speaker 2: hour break and we want to thank today's producer back 1529 01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:48,880 Speaker 2: in the studios, Liam Tomlinson. Always does a fantastic job 1530 01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:52,479 Speaker 2: for us and Liam appreciate it. And you are listening 1531 01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,720 Speaker 2: to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Post Game Sports Talk 1532 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:59,759 Speaker 2: presented by RNL Carriers live at Wings and Rings, Beckett 1533 01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,639 Speaker 2: Ridge with Jim Breach and Chick Ladwig on seven hundred 1534 01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:06,000 Speaker 2: WLW and Cincinnati's ESP at fifteen thirty. 1535 01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:12,080 Speaker 1: This is the Tri State Chevy Dealer's postgame Sports Talk 1536 01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:16,120 Speaker 1: live from Buffalo Wings and Rings, presented by R and 1537 01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:19,160 Speaker 1: L Carriers. Postgame Sports Talk is brought to you in 1538 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:23,799 Speaker 1: part by Pellow Windows and Door making life brighter. 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And now post games 1547 01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:01,880 Speaker 1: Sports Talk. 1548 01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,240 Speaker 2: You are listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealer's postgame 1549 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:14,479 Speaker 2: Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. He's Jim Breach, this 1550 01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,559 Speaker 2: is Chick Ludwig, and we are live at Wings and Rings, 1551 01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:22,040 Speaker 2: Beckett Ridge, forty seven eighty two Plump Square in Westchester, 1552 01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:26,120 Speaker 2: and we're breaking down the Bengals thirty seven to fourteen 1553 01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:30,040 Speaker 2: victory over the Arizona Cardinals. And Jim, we've got a 1554 01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:34,200 Speaker 2: couple of sponsorship cards here that we've got to get to. 1555 01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:34,960 Speaker 3: How about the. 1556 01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:38,519 Speaker 2: Postman Law injury report brought to you by Postman Law 1557 01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:43,640 Speaker 2: Injured called eight four to four. Postman Others promise Postman delivers. 1558 01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,479 Speaker 2: And there was a point in that in the game 1559 01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:51,360 Speaker 2: where Amarius Mims, with a shin injury, was out for 1560 01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,240 Speaker 2: a period of time, but he was able to make 1561 01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:57,400 Speaker 2: his way back, and I believe it was an ankle injury. 1562 01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:02,000 Speaker 2: And how tough is size ap rhyme that he went 1563 01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:05,080 Speaker 2: out win sing but then comes back in place. 1564 01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:06,960 Speaker 3: The guy's an absolute warrior. 1565 01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,759 Speaker 4: He is. How about the Blitz pickup. 1566 01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,200 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, he lifted the. 1567 01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,200 Speaker 4: Guy right off the ground put him on his back. 1568 01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:15,400 Speaker 4: It was just it was awesome. 1569 01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,599 Speaker 2: That was incredible, and and that led to a big 1570 01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:19,560 Speaker 2: pass play. 1571 01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:22,080 Speaker 4: Down the left hand side of the Jasiki for twenty 1572 01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:23,400 Speaker 4: twenty three yards. 1573 01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:24,560 Speaker 3: That was fantastic. 1574 01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:28,080 Speaker 2: And yes, he just crushed a guy and he was 1575 01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,080 Speaker 2: really lifted up and put. 1576 01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:30,400 Speaker 3: On his back. 1577 01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,120 Speaker 2: He was I think the guy's head hit first the 1578 01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:35,120 Speaker 2: Blitz pick up or his shoulder blades. 1579 01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:37,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, just incredible. 1580 01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,800 Speaker 4: It was pretty hot running back. I guarantee when they 1581 01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,080 Speaker 4: watched that tomorrow, they're gonna they're gonna run that thing 1582 01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:44,400 Speaker 4: back fifteen times, gonna. 1583 01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,760 Speaker 2: That was beautiful and he had he not picked it up, 1584 01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:48,840 Speaker 2: it would have been a sack. 1585 01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:50,360 Speaker 3: Who knows a sack fumble. 1586 01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:54,519 Speaker 4: Uh, Quarterbacks definitely appreciate that, no doubt. 1587 01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:54,640 Speaker 13: Now. 1588 01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:56,719 Speaker 4: I was listening to Chase Brown in the post game 1589 01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:59,559 Speaker 4: and he was talking about that how excited he was 1590 01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:01,400 Speaker 4: for that pickup by Samaja. 1591 01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was incredible blitz pick up. It's so critical 1592 01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:09,200 Speaker 2: for a running back, no doubt. Well, that is your 1593 01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:12,240 Speaker 2: Postman Law Injury report, brought to you by Postman Law 1594 01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:16,960 Speaker 2: Injured Call eight four to four Postman Others promise, Postman 1595 01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:22,040 Speaker 2: delivers and Jim. Let's also check on Cincinnati's defensive secondary 1596 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,920 Speaker 2: coverage today, brought to you by coversince he dot com 1597 01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:30,479 Speaker 2: local health insurance experts for over twenty years and just 1598 01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:34,760 Speaker 2: looking at you know, just looking at some of the 1599 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:40,240 Speaker 2: statistics here, DJ Turner continues to impress and really I 1600 01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:44,439 Speaker 2: thought the defensive secondary did a much better job today. 1601 01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,400 Speaker 3: Man Geno Stone with the whiff on uh. 1602 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,759 Speaker 4: Sidelines. Yeah that it looked like the one against Pittsburgh 1603 01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:58,280 Speaker 4: a few years ago where everybody thought that Le'Veon Bell 1604 01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,000 Speaker 4: was going out of bounds and he just kept run 1605 01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,280 Speaker 4: down the sideline and they just kind of stood there 1606 01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:05,840 Speaker 4: and watched. He didn't stand there and watch, but hey 1607 01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:07,479 Speaker 4: barely make contact with the guy. 1608 01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:09,160 Speaker 3: You know, Dax Hill. 1609 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:13,760 Speaker 2: Three passes defense today, Just incredible effort. 1610 01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:15,120 Speaker 3: He's really coming on. 1611 01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,760 Speaker 4: He really is, and he's healthy. Yeah, it was really 1612 01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:21,439 Speaker 4: helps because he struggled with position, what position do I play? 1613 01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:26,200 Speaker 4: And staying healthy. Now he's he's staying healthy and playing 1614 01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:27,920 Speaker 4: and he's showing him what he's capable of. 1615 01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:31,400 Speaker 2: We saw dj Ivy with a with a pass defense 1616 01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:36,479 Speaker 2: and Barrett Carter did a nice job so as a linebacker. 1617 01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,400 Speaker 4: So he figured they gave hip turning thirty three yards 1618 01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:43,080 Speaker 4: for the game. Everybody did a nice job and ninety 1619 01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,400 Speaker 4: two of those came in the last drive. So for 1620 01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:49,519 Speaker 4: up until that last drive, it was one hundred and 1621 01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:52,360 Speaker 4: forty one yards by the Cardinals, and the last drive 1622 01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:55,120 Speaker 4: was against the second defense, second team defense, and it 1623 01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,680 Speaker 4: took him fifteen plays at a fourth down to get 1624 01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:58,320 Speaker 4: in the end zone. 1625 01:28:58,360 --> 01:28:59,240 Speaker 3: That's exactly right. 1626 01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,120 Speaker 4: So that's great because the depth played really. 1627 01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:06,320 Speaker 2: Well, beautiful And that's the defensive secondary coverage report brought 1628 01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,640 Speaker 2: to you by coversince he dot com cover since he 1629 01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:13,960 Speaker 2: has you covered with affordable health insurance plans for over 1630 01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:15,000 Speaker 2: twenty years. 1631 01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:18,280 Speaker 3: Do we have Keith on the west side best side? 1632 01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:25,320 Speaker 26: Hey chick, Yes, sir, say mister breach out of respect. 1633 01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:26,400 Speaker 3: At Gay Hotel. 1634 01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:29,519 Speaker 15: Grew up watching you. 1635 01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,439 Speaker 26: Bengal fan through the seventies eighties, All my life, my 1636 01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,160 Speaker 26: wife and I. That's how we got married. She's a 1637 01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:39,880 Speaker 26: diehard Bengal fan. Our first date. We've been married for 1638 01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:43,519 Speaker 26: years and we've been just I got to tell you 1639 01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:45,920 Speaker 26: it's an honor and a pleasure. I do want to 1640 01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:49,400 Speaker 26: say I understand both sides of what you guys have 1641 01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:53,840 Speaker 26: been talking about. These guys are getting paid. I love 1642 01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,559 Speaker 26: how Joe Burrow came out and said, hey man. 1643 01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:58,760 Speaker 22: I'm getting played to play football. 1644 01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:02,320 Speaker 26: That's my job. If I can, if I'm healthy, I 1645 01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:05,840 Speaker 26: want to play. But I will say this, I saw 1646 01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:10,439 Speaker 26: the look on Falco's face today when he went out 1647 01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:12,920 Speaker 26: in the fourth quarter and got to get in that game. 1648 01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:14,560 Speaker 22: Forty years old, still. 1649 01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:16,960 Speaker 26: Playing the game like a kid. To me, it was 1650 01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:22,519 Speaker 26: like watching backyard football, playground football. And you know, if 1651 01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:25,200 Speaker 26: he can get in for another game or so and 1652 01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:27,439 Speaker 26: just still play the game like a little kid and 1653 01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,400 Speaker 26: have fun with it, that's what I think Joe Burrow 1654 01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:33,280 Speaker 26: is trying to say. He wants to play the game 1655 01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:37,559 Speaker 26: and have fun. And I will say this, I don't 1656 01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:39,800 Speaker 26: want to risk him, so I'm gonna agree with. 1657 01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:40,759 Speaker 14: The guy from Florida. 1658 01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,839 Speaker 26: I think his name was John, and he did say Falco, 1659 01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:45,320 Speaker 26: so I'm gonna say Falco. 1660 01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:45,760 Speaker 3: One more time. 1661 01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:49,040 Speaker 15: Joe Falco behind Joe Burrow. 1662 01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:50,680 Speaker 26: Is one of the best things I've ever heard in 1663 01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:54,320 Speaker 26: my life. I think it's hilarious, awesome because if you've 1664 01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:55,160 Speaker 26: ever seen it. 1665 01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:56,960 Speaker 22: You know exactly what I'm talking about. 1666 01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:58,240 Speaker 4: You guys are awesome. 1667 01:30:58,360 --> 01:30:59,240 Speaker 13: Thank you so much. 1668 01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:00,320 Speaker 4: Thanks for the fun call. 1669 01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:01,840 Speaker 3: Thanks so much. 1670 01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:07,400 Speaker 2: And yes, Joe Flacco or Falco, how about rushing for 1671 01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,840 Speaker 2: a ten yard first play on his first play? Yes, 1672 01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:19,479 Speaker 2: he had five attempts, three completions passing and I misspoke 1673 01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,840 Speaker 2: there five yards on that run. His uh his long 1674 01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:24,440 Speaker 2: game pa first. 1675 01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:26,920 Speaker 4: Down though, But yes, yeah, I find it interesting. You 1676 01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:31,000 Speaker 4: see Flacco and when Boomer came back, I think it 1677 01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:34,759 Speaker 4: was ninety six, and how effortless they make it look, 1678 01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:39,479 Speaker 4: and even Philip Rivers and his age that they make 1679 01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,800 Speaker 4: it look effortless against these unbelievable players. As far as 1680 01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:46,600 Speaker 4: where to throw the ball right, who to throw it to? 1681 01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,559 Speaker 4: It looks easy, And I asked Boom. I remember asking 1682 01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:52,960 Speaker 4: Boomer because the game looked like it was in slow 1683 01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:56,680 Speaker 4: motion to him, he goes, you know, it's just I 1684 01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:59,160 Speaker 4: see it. I see I'm to the point in my 1685 01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:03,080 Speaker 4: career where it seems slow. It's so easy to see 1686 01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:05,960 Speaker 4: what's going on. And that's what happens with these guys. 1687 01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,880 Speaker 4: That's why Flacco can step in or rivers who just 1688 01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:13,760 Speaker 4: step into an offense and perform so well. Eventually, with 1689 01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:15,840 Speaker 4: all the stuff going on, you're gonna throw the ball 1690 01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:18,000 Speaker 4: in the right spot. 1691 01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:20,120 Speaker 3: Everything slows down for those. 1692 01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:23,720 Speaker 4: Guys, and where the young guys. It's going to hare 1693 01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:24,479 Speaker 4: miles an hour. 1694 01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:25,760 Speaker 3: Now. 1695 01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:28,880 Speaker 2: We hyped this earlier in the show, at least I did. Jim, 1696 01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:34,280 Speaker 2: I would like to address it, but the Sports Broadcasting 1697 01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:38,759 Speaker 2: Act of nineteen sixty one protected college and high school 1698 01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:43,160 Speaker 2: football from the what you call the NFL's incursion. And 1699 01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:47,040 Speaker 2: Jay Busby if Yahoo Sports wrote about this, and that 1700 01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:52,360 Speaker 2: mandated that the shield the NFL couldn't play Saturday games 1701 01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:56,760 Speaker 2: before the second Saturday in December, and that's right when 1702 01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:59,160 Speaker 2: college football's regular season ends. 1703 01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:02,200 Speaker 3: Nobody back in sixty. 1704 01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:07,880 Speaker 2: One could foresee the possibility of a massive multi weekend 1705 01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:11,360 Speaker 2: playoff bracket that we've seen the last couple of weeks. 1706 01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:15,479 Speaker 2: So there were a ton of college games on yesterday, 1707 01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:17,920 Speaker 2: But what does the NFL do. They put two gate, 1708 01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,479 Speaker 2: They put on a doubleheader the previous week. 1709 01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:21,599 Speaker 3: They did the same thing. 1710 01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:26,080 Speaker 2: The problem is a lot of these NFL games on 1711 01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:31,040 Speaker 2: Saturdays now are on streaming services that a lot of 1712 01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:35,800 Speaker 2: people do not get, Netflix, the NFL Network, Peacock, and 1713 01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:36,920 Speaker 2: Amazon Prime. 1714 01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:39,559 Speaker 3: So you just wish that. 1715 01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:45,439 Speaker 2: Something could be worked out where we're seeing the college 1716 01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:50,680 Speaker 2: games and we're also seeing the NFL games. 1717 01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:54,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, and you know all these streaming 1718 01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:59,639 Speaker 4: services know what kind of response viewership the NFL brings, Yes, 1719 01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:03,400 Speaker 4: wherever they have NFL wise, they're going to get a 1720 01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:09,080 Speaker 4: huge hit. And if it's just somebody downloading it just 1721 01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:13,800 Speaker 4: to watch their team, you know. And well, who who 1722 01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:15,800 Speaker 4: would have thought there was going to be thirty something 1723 01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:19,120 Speaker 4: bowl games? Right, because when back in that back in 1724 01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:22,920 Speaker 4: that time, there were there was January one Bowl games, 1725 01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:26,200 Speaker 4: you know, Rose Bowl, Orange Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Cotton Bowl. 1726 01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:28,599 Speaker 4: That's pretty much it. There weren't many other I don't 1727 01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:29,679 Speaker 4: think there were any other games. 1728 01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:31,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the goal was to finish like in the 1729 01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:34,760 Speaker 2: top twenty in the country, so you could, you know, 1730 01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:39,240 Speaker 2: put it, send your brochures out and for recruits and everything. 1731 01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:42,880 Speaker 3: Well, now, gosh, everything has changed, and I'm wondering. 1732 01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:45,759 Speaker 2: Why it took so long to really have a college 1733 01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:50,160 Speaker 2: football playoff in the the way it is now, you know, 1734 01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:53,320 Speaker 2: with twelve teams, who knows if it'll expand to sixteen. 1735 01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:56,040 Speaker 4: Who knows what was going on with the bowl games. Yeah, 1736 01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:57,800 Speaker 4: that they could hold it off for as long as 1737 01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:01,960 Speaker 4: they did. You're right, yeah, yeah, internally you wonder. 1738 01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:07,560 Speaker 2: So with with the college football playoffs down to the quarterfinals. 1739 01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:12,960 Speaker 4: Now, who do you like? I think we talked. We 1740 01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:15,000 Speaker 4: haven't had the game yet. You asked me this last week. 1741 01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:16,439 Speaker 4: They haven't played yet. 1742 01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:16,839 Speaker 3: That's exact. 1743 01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:21,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, again, it takes so long, there's that huge gap 1744 01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:21,960 Speaker 4: in there. 1745 01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:26,360 Speaker 3: You're right, Well, it's Ohio State and Miami. 1746 01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:29,479 Speaker 4: I like Ohio State. Okay, I think Miami is going 1747 01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:31,080 Speaker 4: to give them, you know, like you talked about the 1748 01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:35,719 Speaker 4: guys on the end, maybe give the these tackles an issue. 1749 01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:38,920 Speaker 4: But I don't think Miami can score a lot of points. 1750 01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:42,679 Speaker 4: I think their offense struggles. They do have some speed, 1751 01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:45,719 Speaker 4: but that defense of Ohio State is really good. 1752 01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:48,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. They got a couple of players like Caleb Downs 1753 01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:49,600 Speaker 3: that would. 1754 01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:52,759 Speaker 4: And they've got some white outs. I've heard that Ohio 1755 01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:54,680 Speaker 4: State has a couple pretty good white outs. Have you 1756 01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:55,000 Speaker 4: heard that? 1757 01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:55,760 Speaker 3: Yes? 1758 01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:59,080 Speaker 4: And their quarterback complete like nine his passes. I think 1759 01:35:59,120 --> 01:35:59,320 Speaker 4: it was. 1760 01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:00,479 Speaker 3: That's exactly right. 1761 01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:02,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think they're gonna I think they're gonna 1762 01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:03,880 Speaker 4: be just fine. 1763 01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:06,840 Speaker 3: Well. And then a triple header on. 1764 01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:13,240 Speaker 2: New Year's Day, a day that I just absolutely love, 1765 01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:15,840 Speaker 2: Oregon against Texas Tech. 1766 01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:20,519 Speaker 4: I mentioned last week. I'm going with Texas Tech. 1767 01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:22,280 Speaker 3: Yes, in honor of Joe Walter. 1768 01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:24,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll do it in honor Joe Redder. 1769 01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:28,160 Speaker 3: Yes. And Alabama in Indiana. 1770 01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:31,840 Speaker 4: I gotta go with the Hoosiers. And what a great 1771 01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:32,600 Speaker 4: story that is. 1772 01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:38,320 Speaker 2: Who would have ever imagined the day would come where 1773 01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:44,280 Speaker 2: Indiana would be playing Alabama. Indiana the number one team 1774 01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:48,559 Speaker 2: in the nation with a six and a half point 1775 01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:52,640 Speaker 2: favorite over the Alabama Crimson Tide. 1776 01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:57,640 Speaker 4: Nobody, even three years ago, nobody would have thought that. 1777 01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:02,800 Speaker 2: And then Jim in the All State Sugar Bowl. 1778 01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:03,880 Speaker 4: Maybe Kurt Signetty. 1779 01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:08,599 Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, I win Google me uh ole miss 1780 01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:09,160 Speaker 2: in Georgia. 1781 01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:13,479 Speaker 4: I think Georgia looked really good in that SC Game 1782 01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:17,720 Speaker 4: Championship game. I think George is gonna be a tough out. 1783 01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:22,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be. 1784 01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:26,599 Speaker 2: Uh, We're gonna have to four days here, It's two days, 1785 01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:27,240 Speaker 2: four games. 1786 01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:28,360 Speaker 4: It's really great. 1787 01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:29,679 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a blast. Yes. 1788 01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:34,479 Speaker 2: Well, hey, let's go over the NFL scores from today, 1789 01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:37,719 Speaker 2: and it all starts here with the one o'clock games. 1790 01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:41,760 Speaker 2: The Bengals thirty seven to fourteen over the Arizona Cardinals. 1791 01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:45,960 Speaker 2: How about the Browns at home? Can we go ahead 1792 01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:51,200 Speaker 2: and say upsetting the Pittsburgh Steelers thirteen to six, and 1793 01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:55,759 Speaker 2: that sets up a showdown next week in Pittsburgh. Winner 1794 01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:57,960 Speaker 2: take all Baltimore and Pittsburgh. 1795 01:37:57,960 --> 01:37:59,960 Speaker 4: Oh, I thought you were gonna say it's show out 1796 01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:04,439 Speaker 4: between the Bengals and the Browns. Yes, yeah, I guess 1797 01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:06,599 Speaker 4: you're right. It is the other one to win the division. 1798 01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:10,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that will be the Bengals final game at home 1799 01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:14,559 Speaker 2: against the Cleveland Browns next week, and also the Steelers 1800 01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:16,040 Speaker 2: versus the Ravens for. 1801 01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,599 Speaker 4: The AFC Sunday night game. 1802 01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:22,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see you if it hasn't been named already. 1803 01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:26,960 Speaker 2: Saints were they thirty four to twenty six victory over 1804 01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:27,599 Speaker 2: the Titans. 1805 01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:30,920 Speaker 4: They've been playing better lately in Tennessee. Chris Olavey's been 1806 01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:35,920 Speaker 4: killing it and shook Hug Chuck Chuck has been playing 1807 01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:39,280 Speaker 4: really well. The rookie quarterback, yes from Louisville. He's been 1808 01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:40,080 Speaker 4: playing really well. 1809 01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:46,519 Speaker 3: Titans at three and thirteen. Saints go to six and ten. 1810 01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:48,479 Speaker 4: Titans had a pretty good lead in that game. 1811 01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, fourteen to ten at half to or twenty to 1812 01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:56,880 Speaker 2: ten at halftime, and they lose thirty four to twenty six. 1813 01:38:57,320 --> 01:39:02,920 Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars twenty three to seventeen over the Colts in 1814 01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:05,280 Speaker 2: uh in Indianapolis. 1815 01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:08,320 Speaker 3: Colts at one time were eight and two. They're eight 1816 01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:09,040 Speaker 3: and eight now. 1817 01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:10,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, they were up in that game too for the 1818 01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:12,080 Speaker 4: most for most of the game. 1819 01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:13,880 Speaker 13: Yeah. 1820 01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:17,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, Philip Rivers again played, he played, okay. They just 1821 01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:20,920 Speaker 4: they're having trouble closing out games. That's it, you know, 1822 01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,439 Speaker 4: and it's so you gotta build close games out right. 1823 01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:29,880 Speaker 2: Dolphins are twenty to seventeen winners over the Buccaneers. That's huge, 1824 01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:36,920 Speaker 2: and Ted I believe that makes Carolina the NFC South winners. 1825 01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,439 Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think they played this weekend 1826 01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:41,880 Speaker 4: or one more game and it's whoever wins the game 1827 01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:43,120 Speaker 4: is then. 1828 01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:44,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Panthers lost there. 1829 01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:48,880 Speaker 2: At eight and eight, Buccaneers are at seven and nine, 1830 01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:51,759 Speaker 2: so it's still that's still up for grants. 1831 01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:55,200 Speaker 4: ESCU and eight and nine can get in. 1832 01:39:54,560 --> 01:40:01,639 Speaker 2: Incredible Patriots unbelievable five touchdown pass from Drake May Forty 1833 01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:05,080 Speaker 2: two to ten winners over the Jets in New Jersey. 1834 01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:08,240 Speaker 3: Well, he's played great, he really had. 1835 01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:10,280 Speaker 4: Mike Rabels did a phenomenal job there. 1836 01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:15,640 Speaker 2: Seahawks twenty seven to ten over the Panthers. 1837 01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:18,880 Speaker 4: They're really good Seahawks. 1838 01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:23,560 Speaker 3: And with Donald Sam Darnold. 1839 01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:28,240 Speaker 2: And the New York Football Giants thirty four to ten 1840 01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:31,520 Speaker 2: winners over the Raiders in Las Vegas. 1841 01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:34,360 Speaker 4: They have just give me Ravens the first pick. Yep, 1842 01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:38,840 Speaker 4: it could be Fernando Mendows. They're going to Las Vegas. 1843 01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:41,880 Speaker 2: The Raiders and the Eagles eke out a thirteen to 1844 01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:50,240 Speaker 2: twelve victory over the Bills in Buffalo, and Eagles led 1845 01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:53,439 Speaker 2: thirteen to nothing, but the Bills, as always turn it 1846 01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:53,920 Speaker 2: on late. 1847 01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:58,000 Speaker 4: Well, the Bills got stopped fourth and goal before they 1848 01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:02,120 Speaker 4: even score a touchdown. Were down there and Josh Allen 1849 01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:05,000 Speaker 4: came up just short and then they scored two teshdowns, 1850 01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:08,040 Speaker 4: went for it. Shakira was wide open, and fortunately he 1851 01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:09,280 Speaker 4: just said make a good throw. 1852 01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:12,479 Speaker 2: And the Eagles survived thirteen to twelve. Bills are at 1853 01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:16,519 Speaker 2: eleven and five, and that's the Eagles record. Also, and 1854 01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:23,839 Speaker 2: the Thursday games Cowboys over the Commanders thirty to twenty three, 1855 01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:27,320 Speaker 2: and the Vikings knock out the Lions twenty three to ten, 1856 01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:33,040 Speaker 2: and the Broncos over the Chiefs twenty to thirteen. 1857 01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:36,960 Speaker 4: Mine are kind of some similarities to the Bengals, you know, 1858 01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:40,519 Speaker 4: a phenomenal offense and their defensive struggles. Part of there 1859 01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:41,880 Speaker 4: is just a lot of injuries. 1860 01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:45,879 Speaker 2: And yesterday's games Detexans over the Chargers twenty to sixteen. 1861 01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:49,760 Speaker 2: Ravens crushed the Packers in Green Bay forty one to 1862 01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:53,479 Speaker 2: twenty four, and that leads us to Monday night's game 1863 01:41:53,560 --> 01:42:01,040 Speaker 2: the Rams at the Falcons and tonight's game at forty 1864 01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:04,280 Speaker 2: nine Ers. That game is just just getting underway. 1865 01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:06,240 Speaker 4: Brock Perry just do pick six? 1866 01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:10,519 Speaker 3: Did he really play the game? And the Bears go 1867 01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:11,800 Speaker 3: six to nothing? 1868 01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:17,080 Speaker 2: Well, Jim and many thanks to all the folks here 1869 01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:19,599 Speaker 2: are Server Macy just fantastic. 1870 01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:20,240 Speaker 4: He was awesome. 1871 01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:22,639 Speaker 2: All the great folks here at Wings and Rings, Beckett 1872 01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:26,040 Speaker 2: Ridge and on behalf of my partner Jim Breach and 1873 01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:31,320 Speaker 2: today's engineer Mike Mills, and our producers back in the studio, 1874 01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:35,960 Speaker 2: Liam Tomlinson and Danny Gleeson. This is the Chickster chick 1875 01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:40,960 Speaker 2: Ludwig saying thanks for listening to the Tri State Chevy 1876 01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:45,840 Speaker 2: Dealers postgame sports talk presented by RNEL Carriers on the 1877 01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:49,880 Speaker 2: Home of the Reds and the best Bengals coverage seven 1878 01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:53,360 Speaker 2: hundred WLW and ESPN fifteen third Happy to you