WEBVTT - Mornings with Thom Brennaman 10/28/2025

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<v Speaker 1>Now the financial information that just might change your life.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Bloomberg Money Minute on seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 2>Alrighty, we check in with Genie Cervetti from our Bloomberg

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<v Speaker 2>newsroom in New York City. Wireless companies are spending a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of cash these days on promotions there every other commercial.

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<v Speaker 2>But apparently one major carrier just reported that it lost

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<v Speaker 2>customers last quarter.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you've probably noticed the ads, don maybe even switched companies.

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<v Speaker 3>But Verizon maybe losing a step here. The nation's largest

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<v Speaker 3>mobile service provider lost wireless phone subscribers in the recent

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<v Speaker 3>three month period. Now, all three of the major carriers

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<v Speaker 3>have been using costly promotions and incentives to tempt us

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<v Speaker 3>to switch networks, but AT and T and T Mobile

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<v Speaker 3>added a lot of customers in their latest quarters. However,

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<v Speaker 3>we are seeing Verizon shares hire this morning. The company

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<v Speaker 3>beat on estimates when it comes to FiOS internet signups

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<v Speaker 3>and also its earnings per share tom.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, craft Times results point to ongoing consumer weakness.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the maker of craft at Mac and Cheese and

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<v Speaker 3>its famous ketchup is preparing to split into two. But

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<v Speaker 3>Kraft Hinds just lowered its sales outlook, and it's struggling

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<v Speaker 3>to sell investors on these plans to split the company

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<v Speaker 3>into two businesses at a time when consumers have been

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<v Speaker 3>broadly moving away from processed foods. Anyway, Tom, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Gina, and a big day to day. The futures

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<v Speaker 2>are right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we have the FED wrapping up a meeting, We've

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<v Speaker 3>got some big tech earnings, and right now the futures

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<v Speaker 3>look good. Dow future's up fifty eight, SMP futures up nineteen,

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<v Speaker 3>Nasdaq futures are up one hundred and eighteen from Bloomberg.

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<v Speaker 3>Gina Cervetti on news Radio seven hundred WLWS.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost apropos this tune from Genesis misunderstanding because there seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be I don't know if misunderstanding is the right

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<v Speaker 2>word in this case, but a lot of sort of

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<v Speaker 2>gray area and what to understand and what not to understand,

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<v Speaker 2>specifically about this whole sale of th drinks and intoxicating

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<v Speaker 2>hemp products which a Hamilton County judge extended a temporary

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<v Speaker 2>block against the emergency ban of those, and kind of

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<v Speaker 2>enough to join us, and he's got interest in this

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing. There's no two ways about it. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing wrong with that. Everybody does in some form or fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>He was kind enough to send me a message on

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<v Speaker 2>x yesterday, and that's Scotty Hunter, co founder of Urban

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<v Speaker 2>Artifact Beer and coach Aloe Hemp. Scotty, good morning. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for the message yesterday and thanks for your time today.

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<v Speaker 2>How's everything for you?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, I'm doing great, Tom, Thanks for having me on

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<v Speaker 4>the program.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely all right, Look, let's start with what you know

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<v Speaker 2>most about in this thing. I don't want to necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>get into the whole marijuana dispensary. The taxpayers voted for

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<v Speaker 2>that in Ohio a couple of years ago. But there

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<v Speaker 2>is a distinct difference between the amount of THC inside

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<v Speaker 2>of a hemp product compared to something you might buy

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<v Speaker 2>at a marijuana dispensary. Correct, let's start with that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's absolutely correct. You know these are low levels

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<v Speaker 5>of THHC. And really this all came about through the

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<v Speaker 5>twenty eighteen Farm Bill, So hemp has a federal legal

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<v Speaker 5>classification here in the United States, where marijuana still does

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<v Speaker 5>not currently.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we start with that, now, correct me if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wrong here. My understanding in Governor de Wines wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to stop the sale of some of this or at

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<v Speaker 2>least move it into marijuana dispensaries. Had to do with

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<v Speaker 2>some of the packaging. Let's just start with some of

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<v Speaker 2>the hemp products. Not the alcohol, I mean, not the

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<v Speaker 2>beer part of it with THC in it. But as

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<v Speaker 2>far as some of the packaging is concerned that it

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<v Speaker 2>might be trying to appeal to kids as though it's candy, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>would you agree with him on at least that part

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<v Speaker 2>of this, that that's a fair argument.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh? Absolutely, Tom.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, the entire hemp industry, not only beverage where

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<v Speaker 5>I reside, advocates for sensible, responsible regulation. These items should

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<v Speaker 5>not be targeted at children. They should have clear labeling

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<v Speaker 5>standards and requirements. And we've seen a lot of states

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<v Speaker 5>across the country adopt such rules already in the last

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<v Speaker 5>few years, and we expect more and more to follow

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<v Speaker 5>suit in the coming year.

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<v Speaker 4>So, you know, I think.

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<v Speaker 5>With what the House passed here last week and that

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<v Speaker 5>we expect to kind of go to Conference committy next week,

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<v Speaker 5>is Ohio was starting to move in the right direction

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<v Speaker 5>to get some of those guardrails in place.

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<v Speaker 4>So I do want to go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, no, please finish. I want to hear what you

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<v Speaker 6>have to say, not me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I was going to say.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I want to really hit on the fact

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<v Speaker 5>that it's a misnomer that this is a completely unregulated market.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the state of.

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<v Speaker 5>Ohio has cultivation and processing rules in place. We obtained

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<v Speaker 5>the HAMP processing license through the State of Ohio. We're

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<v Speaker 5>viewed and inspected by the State of Ohio. The litany

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<v Speaker 5>of protocols and tests that we have to go through

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<v Speaker 5>to produce our HAMP beverages, frankly, far exceeds the requirements

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<v Speaker 5>in terms of testing that we have to do for

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<v Speaker 5>our beer. You know, we're testing for pesticides, heavy metals, micotoxins,

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<v Speaker 5>all kinds of other microbial contaminants and those all have

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<v Speaker 5>to pass before we can release and sell that product

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<v Speaker 5>into the market.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is the case in a lot of states.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now help me with this part of it. The

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<v Speaker 2>THC drinks. Okay, and you have some of this in

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<v Speaker 2>your urban Artifact beer. Talk to me about regulation in

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<v Speaker 2>that regard. Okay. Look, everybody knows you can walk into

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<v Speaker 2>a bar. Unfortunately it happens way too often.

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<v Speaker 6>We know this. You can walk into a bar. You

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<v Speaker 6>have one or two too many beers.

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<v Speaker 2>The next thing you know, there are some people getting

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<v Speaker 2>behind the wheel of a car and off they go.

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<v Speaker 6>They shouldn't be driving.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to me about is there regulation Are we able

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<v Speaker 2>to tell if somebody has had too much THC inside

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<v Speaker 2>of a beer?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, in real quick clarification, Tom, we have clear separation

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<v Speaker 5>between our beer which contains alcohol, and then have products

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<v Speaker 5>which contains low.

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<v Speaker 4>Amount of page. We can't intermingle those and we don't.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think the other thing that people don't necessari

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<v Speaker 5>understand when they're unfamiliar with this category is because it

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<v Speaker 5>is still pretty new overall in the grand scheme of things,

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<v Speaker 5>is that there's in terms of beverage specifically, there's a

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<v Speaker 5>similar type of feedback.

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<v Speaker 4>From your body when you consume one of these low

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<v Speaker 4>dose beverages.

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<v Speaker 5>So you get that relax calming feeling when you consume

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<v Speaker 5>one of these beverage in a similar time brain that

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<v Speaker 5>if you drank a beer or cocktail. So in that way,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, individuals can sell regulate, which I think we're

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<v Speaker 5>all a fan of, but also bartenders and staff if

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<v Speaker 5>we're talking about a bar restaurant, can observe the behavior

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<v Speaker 5>of the patron similar to what they would with an

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<v Speaker 5>alcoholic beverage and determine, Hey, that's you've had enough, right

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<v Speaker 5>we give that trust to our servers already for adult

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<v Speaker 5>use adult products, and the same thing goes with that products.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would give me the argument, if you wouldn't mind,

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<v Speaker 2>Scottie Hunter, give me the argument of why hemp products

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<v Speaker 2>should not be sold inside of marijuana dispensaries if they

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<v Speaker 2>have any THC even though it's considerably less than normal

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<v Speaker 2>marijuana products you'd buy in a dispensary.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, these are products that dispensaries don't want.

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<v Speaker 4>The cards they're not they don't make.

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<v Speaker 5>Sense for the space a setup there. You know, if

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<v Speaker 5>you look at national data the whole you know, a

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<v Speaker 5>THHD beverage, whether it's hemp baseed or you know, traditional

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<v Speaker 5>marijuana base it's less than one percent of dispensary sales.

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<v Speaker 5>So these products are you know, servicing a market that

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't get served under a lot of the state and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, regulated marijuana programs.

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<v Speaker 6>Is with with with marijuana?

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<v Speaker 2>We read so much about how there would be more

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<v Speaker 2>money that flowed back into supporting X, Y and Z,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's local municipalities, mucual towns, whether it's our tax

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<v Speaker 2>base in general. Is there anything like that in the

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<v Speaker 2>hemp industry, Scott.

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<v Speaker 5>So, And this has kind of been more state by

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<v Speaker 5>state basis, but as you put, had states passed regulation

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<v Speaker 5>on the distribution and retail sale of hemp products, there

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<v Speaker 5>have been tasses that have put into place. So in

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<v Speaker 5>the in the bill that passed the House here in

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<v Speaker 5>the state of Ohio, on the beverage side, it has

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<v Speaker 5>an excise taxmilar to you know, beer, winder spirits, and

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<v Speaker 5>I believe on the other categories of products, it's a

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<v Speaker 5>retail tax that's similar to the recreational adult youth program.

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<v Speaker 5>Again not speaking and with the expertise on that piece specifically.

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<v Speaker 4>And so there there, there's that aspect of it.

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<v Speaker 5>And we've we've seen other neighboring states pass similar legislation

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<v Speaker 5>with with tax income. You know, Kana tuck To is

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<v Speaker 5>one for example, it's had a program for a number

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<v Speaker 5>of years. They did make some updates earlier this year

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<v Speaker 5>to their program. West Virginia has had one for a number.

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<v Speaker 4>Of years as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Those those states have already overseen had taxes in place

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<v Speaker 5>for the distribution sale of products in their state.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I would just haven't gotten to that.

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<v Speaker 5>Point, and I think we're gonna we're gonna get there

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<v Speaker 5>here before the end.

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<v Speaker 6>Of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, at the end of the day, it seems to

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<v Speaker 2>me and Scotty Hunter, you tell me if I'm right

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<v Speaker 2>or wrong on this. The bottom line is is that

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<v Speaker 2>people who are selling these in wherever it is that

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<v Speaker 2>they're selling Okay, the owner of a business could be

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<v Speaker 2>a gas station, could be whatever it might be, they

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<v Speaker 2>have to hold up there into the bargain to not

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<v Speaker 2>give you guys a bad name by just simply charting people.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that accurate? Is that fair?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>No, that's absolutely fair. And that's you know, that's what

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<v Speaker 5>we're asking tom right. You know what, we produce our

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<v Speaker 5>products that are nets for people that are twenty one plus.

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<v Speaker 5>We treat them the same as our beers when they

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<v Speaker 5>come into our tap room. And then when we do

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<v Speaker 5>sell into retail accounts, we asked we ask the same event.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it's great, Scotty.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't thank you enough for reaching out and for

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<v Speaker 2>clearing up some of this stuff out there, because I

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<v Speaker 2>got to be honest with you. I mean, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a hard time breaking it down. I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of other people out there have a hard time really

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<v Speaker 2>being able to understand some of the intricacies which you

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<v Speaker 2>have been kind enough to clear up today. So Scottie

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter can't thank you enough for your time. Hope you

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<v Speaker 2>have a great weekend ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks Tom. Yeah, I appreciate the time.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know we'll have to get you some samples

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<v Speaker 5>here before too long and you can get that first

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<v Speaker 5>hand experience, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>All I need my daughter beating me over the head

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<v Speaker 2>about drinking it. All right, Scottie Hunter, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>It's eight nineteen. We've got a lot of rain today.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got some missues on the roads, Chuck. Are they

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<v Speaker 2>getting any better from our last check?

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<v Speaker 7>Not?

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<v Speaker 6>In some spots No.

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<v Speaker 8>In fact, the list of accidents continues to grow. This

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<v Speaker 8>dot com. Heavy traffic southbound seventy five out of Westchester

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<v Speaker 8>and continuing through Lachland on northbound seventy five, you'll need

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<v Speaker 8>an extra half hour out of Florence into Town. Crews

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<v Speaker 8>continue to work with the wreck on northbound seventy five

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<v Speaker 8>at Aser Charles and again just after you get past

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<v Speaker 8>Town Street. That one's on the right. The latest is

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<v Speaker 8>southbound seventy one. Another accident near Fields Eirdle that traffic

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<v Speaker 8>slowed from just below Western Row and continues heavy to Redbank.

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<v Speaker 8>Chuck Ingram News Radio seven hundred wlw OUR WCPO nine

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<v Speaker 8>first warning forecast. It used to the rain at least

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<v Speaker 8>for about the next roughly forty eight hours today, tonight, tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 8>Spotty showers hanging around are high only fifty one. That's

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<v Speaker 8>ten degrees below our norm this time of the year.

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<v Speaker 8>Normally we're at sixty one for a high. But by

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<v Speaker 8>the time Thursday night rolls around, clouds will start to

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<v Speaker 8>break up. The rain will end after about roughly an

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<v Speaker 8>inch of brain says Jennifer Ketchmark. And then it's going

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<v Speaker 8>to be beautiful on Friday, some sunshine, few clouds here

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<v Speaker 8>and there, but drying up for Halloween night. If you're

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<v Speaker 8>out trick or treating or going to high school football

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<v Speaker 8>games or whatever it is that you're doing, you'll be

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<v Speaker 2>On that sounds like a good deal. It is eight

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<v Speaker 2>eight thirty eight we'll visit with Pastor Chad Hooven and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about parenting, slash coaching the role

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<v Speaker 2>of emotional closeness and structure. This is seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>Money, Money, Money, Better, Get ready. It's time for a

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<v Speaker 3>The Conference Board reports that US consumer confidence fell this

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<v Speaker 3>People familiar with the plans tell Bloomberg Apple is testing

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<v Speaker 3>Powell holding a press conference afterward from Bloomberg Genus Cervetti

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<v Speaker 2>pastor Chad, the lead pastor at the Horizon Community Church

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<v Speaker 2>in Newtown, right on the banks of the Miami River.

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<v Speaker 6>Good morning, sir, how are you today?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm doing great? How about yourself?

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<v Speaker 6>Doing all right?

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<v Speaker 7>Little rainy day, but I had some wonderful, crisp fall

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<v Speaker 7>day coming up. Doesn't get nights last couple of.

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<v Speaker 2>Weeks, absolutely, and it looks like we're gonna have some

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<v Speaker 2>good ones over the weekend after some rain today and

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow and clearing up apparently tomorrow night. You know, in

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<v Speaker 2>the news a lot lately, and there was a big

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<v Speaker 2>story that's on going up in Waynesville, Ohio about a

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<v Speaker 2>man who's been an administrator there, a coach for forty

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<v Speaker 2>seven years, or an athletic director, and now all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, people sort of I guess, for lack of

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<v Speaker 2>a better term, coming out of the woodwork some thirty

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<v Speaker 2>plus years later about inappropriate behavior. Whether it's true or not,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know. But it is an ongoing, big story

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<v Speaker 2>in Waynesville, and it brings to mind the role of

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<v Speaker 2>not only coaches, but also parents. And you know, let's

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<v Speaker 2>start with parents, because I heard a lengthy, well what's

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<v Speaker 2>a word, a sermon for lack of a better term,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was from Chip Ingram the other day

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<v Speaker 2>talking about, you know, structure in the household and closeness.

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<v Speaker 6>So let's start with parents.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to me a lot of the parents that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm around right now Chad Hoban want to be a

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<v Speaker 2>friend of their kids, can be friends of their young kids.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I guess it depends on how you define friendship.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean when I first had my kids, when I

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<v Speaker 7>were first born, my vision statement for my parenting was

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<v Speaker 7>a fifty year friendship with my kids. However, that doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>mean every stage you're accommodating to them or acting like

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<v Speaker 7>they are moral equal. But my goal is to raise

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<v Speaker 7>kids who would be you know, responsible adults, would have

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<v Speaker 7>the tools they need for that and have the emotional

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<v Speaker 7>closeness so that we would have a fifty year friendship.

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<v Speaker 7>So I'm not sure it's either or, But if you

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<v Speaker 7>define friendship as a lack of structure, a lack of discipline,

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<v Speaker 7>that I'd say you're missing out. It was a study

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<v Speaker 7>in Minister years ago called the Minnesota Study, and they

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<v Speaker 7>raided on an X and Y axis what's needed for parenting,

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<v Speaker 7>for coaching, for mentoring in any relationship, and that was

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<v Speaker 7>structure on the Y axis, and it was emotional closeness

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<v Speaker 7>on the X axis. And strangely, they found that parents

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<v Speaker 7>and coaches who had high emotional closeness I care about you,

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<v Speaker 7>I love you, I appreciate you. They had all emotional closeness,

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<v Speaker 7>but no structure, no discipline, no calling to account, no accountability. Strangely,

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<v Speaker 7>the parents who had the most emotional closeness but the

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<v Speaker 7>least amount of structure without any at all. On the

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<v Speaker 7>other side, they raised the most insecure kids, which you

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<v Speaker 7>think would be the object.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 7>The other contrast was those who had high discipline. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>not listening to your perspective. Your voice hasn't heard. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>not trying to understand the whole side, but just disciplined discipline, discipline.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm the authoritarian. I make the rules and you obey it.

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<v Speaker 7>Those parents raised the most rebellious children because they had

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<v Speaker 7>all that structure. But the minute that structure was gone, there,

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<v Speaker 7>out of there. And it's actually a little verse in

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<v Speaker 7>the Bible that says, where the law increases, send increases

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<v Speaker 7>even more. You've probab see in your own life, you're

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<v Speaker 7>walking along on a path. Suddenly you see a sign

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<v Speaker 7>that says stay off the grass. I wasn't even thinking

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<v Speaker 7>about stepping on the ground. Show that I see design.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, well, maybe I want to. So Really the

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<v Speaker 7>key is not rules for rule's sake, but how do

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<v Speaker 7>you teach principles? I would say all the time, I

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<v Speaker 7>got a little inner rebel in me. I've never found

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<v Speaker 7>a rule I didn't want to break, but a principle

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<v Speaker 7>I don't want to love. So part of coaching and

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<v Speaker 7>part of parenting is trying to teach this principle behind

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<v Speaker 7>this application is so important. It's important to your life.

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<v Speaker 7>It's going to serve you well. And so what we

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<v Speaker 7>want to do is we want to combine emotional closeness

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<v Speaker 7>and the structure and discipline, because those who actually combine

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<v Speaker 7>both of those raise the most secure children. And same thing.

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<v Speaker 7>In a boss situation, you say, Wow, my boss really

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<v Speaker 7>loves me, but man, this place is run an incompetent way.

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<v Speaker 7>People getting away with murder around here, and there's no accountability.

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<v Speaker 7>What you're calling for is some degree of structure increase.

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<v Speaker 7>Other times you have a boss or situation where it's like, man,

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<v Speaker 7>you know this place is run well, but I think

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<v Speaker 7>I'm a cog in the wheel, and no one cares

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<v Speaker 7>about me. No one asks about me, no one ever

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<v Speaker 7>says anything nice about my contribution except the once a

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<v Speaker 7>year when I do an annual review. So how do

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<v Speaker 7>we combine both those things. And I think if you

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<v Speaker 7>are a person who's been coached, you realize the benefit

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<v Speaker 7>of coaching. You know, whether your parent did well or

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<v Speaker 7>coached well, or the other side, you weren't coached well,

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<v Speaker 7>or you weren't parented well, you felt a deficit of that. Man,

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<v Speaker 7>you know what I want to do better than what

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<v Speaker 7>was trusted to me. That's really what a coach does.

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<v Speaker 7>It creates a whole environment in a family, whole environment

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<v Speaker 7>in an area of your company. Who can't control the

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<v Speaker 7>whole environment in your department, you see, I want to

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<v Speaker 7>coach people who can coach people to coach people. I

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<v Speaker 7>think about like a parenting. I want to coach my

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<v Speaker 7>kids so they end up being able to coach my grandkids,

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<v Speaker 7>so they can coach my great grandkids. It's a culture

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<v Speaker 7>of humility, it's a culture of teachability. I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 7>been a public speaker now for I don't know, forty

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<v Speaker 7>five years if you take the time back when I

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<v Speaker 7>was on stage and doing plays and stuff. To be

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<v Speaker 7>a professional communicator, and every week I have six people

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<v Speaker 7>critique me because I know I watch my videos every

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<v Speaker 7>single week because I want to be communicating and doing

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<v Speaker 7>my best work next week, next month, next year, not

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<v Speaker 7>last week, last month. But that requires humility. It's not well,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, I've got a covered bob. You know I've

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<v Speaker 7>learned a lot, but other people are going to see

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<v Speaker 7>things I don't see. Doesn't mean I always jump at

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<v Speaker 7>all the feedback on hundred percent, but I want to

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<v Speaker 7>be open to feedback. I want to be open to

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<v Speaker 7>other perspectives so that I can be my best. By

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<v Speaker 7>having the proverbs in the Bible, sysm sharpens iron. We

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<v Speaker 7>need other people to sharpen us unless we get dult.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, one word, and I've read that Minnesota study,

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<v Speaker 2>one word that seemed to creep into the conversation quite

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<v Speaker 2>a bit. That seemed to be, if not the most

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<v Speaker 2>important word in all of that. Now, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk specifically for a second and ask you about parenting

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<v Speaker 2>has to do with the word obedience and how you know, Look,

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to raise your kids, and look, whether you're

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<v Speaker 2>a deeply spiritual person or not, is to get them

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<v Speaker 2>to understand. And this is where we see in society

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<v Speaker 2>so frequently now where either parents aren't doing it, parents

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<v Speaker 2>aren't around, and all of a sudden, kids just don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand the importance of obedience as they are growing up,

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<v Speaker 2>and then perhaps from a more spiritual standpoint, then obedience

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<v Speaker 2>to how they live.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that fair?

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's very fair. In fact, I always say,

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<v Speaker 7>you don't break God's laws, you discover them. You want hey,

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<v Speaker 7>in the same way, it's not just spiritual things. But

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<v Speaker 7>you don't break the law of gravity. You discover the

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<v Speaker 7>law of gravity when you think a step off of

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<v Speaker 7>a building. And so the same way. If a child

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<v Speaker 7>doesn't learn that there is structure and there's truth, and

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<v Speaker 7>there are things that you need to submit, subordinate yourself too,

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<v Speaker 7>then you're gonna be in trouble because, hey, I finally

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<v Speaker 7>got rid of mom and dad. Well, you still got

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<v Speaker 7>a landlord. I've covered my landlord. Well, I guests, but

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<v Speaker 7>you still have roommates, you still have a boss, you

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<v Speaker 7>still have These are principles that apply in every area

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<v Speaker 7>of life. And if you think you can circumvent reality,

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<v Speaker 7>like the hang glider can temporarily circumvent gravity, but you're

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<v Speaker 7>eventually going to go down. And so you want to say,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm teaching my children how to deal with life. Part

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<v Speaker 7>dealing with life is dealing with truth. The part dealing

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<v Speaker 7>with truth is understanding. I need to subordinate, subordinate myself

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<v Speaker 7>to the truth here. And so as a parent, you

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<v Speaker 7>want to teach first time obedience. Yes, there's a place

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<v Speaker 7>for negotiation. Yes there's a place for appealing, and what

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<v Speaker 7>we can talk about that to as a parent, But

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<v Speaker 7>we need to start with if dad or mom tells

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<v Speaker 7>you to do this, I want your first thing you

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<v Speaker 7>say is I'm gonna do it. I'm going to call

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<v Speaker 7>you to first time obedience. Now, of course, none of

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<v Speaker 7>us are really good at the head, and that's why

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<v Speaker 7>as a parent, you're a teacher. And I think a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of people think of themselves as you know, generals

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<v Speaker 7>or drill sergeants's parents. But the primary role you want

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<v Speaker 7>to see yourself as a teacher. So if your child

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<v Speaker 7>is not giving first time obedience, how can I teach

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<v Speaker 7>them that? How can I show what the consequences that

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<v Speaker 7>they don't but also lovingly teach what it looks like.

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<v Speaker 7>Then also say, now, when you're characterized by first time obedience,

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<v Speaker 7>there is a place to respectfully disagree, But we don't

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<v Speaker 7>teach that either. How what does it look like to

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<v Speaker 7>respectfully disagree? Well, after you say, dad, I'll do it. It's okay.

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<v Speaker 7>The next day an hour later to come up and say,

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<v Speaker 7>can I talk to you about something dead? Or even

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<v Speaker 7>in the phrases we taught our kids is can I appeal?

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<v Speaker 7>Sometimes answer is no, you can't, that's not on this one.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Other times it's yes, you can appeal. On this one,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm willing to listen. I'll give it a second listen.

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<v Speaker 7>And many times I came back and changed my mind.

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<v Speaker 7>I came back and apologized by the way I handled

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<v Speaker 7>it because I wanted to demonstrate to my kids not

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<v Speaker 7>only do I want them to be teachable, but I

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<v Speaker 7>want to be teachable, and so I think you can

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<v Speaker 7>combine both those things. The question you want to ask

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<v Speaker 7>yourself as a parent, to coach a boss is am

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<v Speaker 7>I living an imitatable life? Like when people see how

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<v Speaker 7>I'm leading, how I'm acting, how I'm parenting, would your

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<v Speaker 7>kids say, you know, Dad's not perfect, but he owns

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<v Speaker 7>it when he's not. That's an imitatable life and that's

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<v Speaker 7>what a coach does.

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<v Speaker 6>All Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Before I let you go, though, I want to ask

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<v Speaker 2>you. You know we get into vicious cycles, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>over and over. Okay, let's assume for a second that

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<v Speaker 2>you were a kid who didn't grow up with a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these things. Maybe you didn't get a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of love, Maybe you didn't have a lot of structure.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you change that so when you become a

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<v Speaker 2>parent it's different.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you know, I just read a great story the

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<v Speaker 7>other day about the movie Maverick with Jodie Foster and

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<v Speaker 7>Mel Gibson, and mel Gibson kind of lost his temper

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<v Speaker 7>on set and and Jody tooka this good chemistry. After

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<v Speaker 7>you saw Maverick, it was pretty cool. A little movie

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<v Speaker 7>with James Gardner, and he gets all upset, and you know,

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<v Speaker 7>he comes back to the next shot and he knew

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<v Speaker 7>he'd stepped in it, and he bought her some flowers

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<v Speaker 7>and he wrote her a note and he said, I

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<v Speaker 7>was raised by a man who taught me to fight first,

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<v Speaker 7>but I'm trying to be a better man. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 7>there's somebody who acknowledges I didn't come with all the

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<v Speaker 7>tools I needed, and certainly mal gives them got the

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<v Speaker 7>whole train wreck of bad decisions. But he's trying to

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<v Speaker 7>make progress. And I think that's what you want to

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<v Speaker 7>do as a parent, to say it's not perfection. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>pursuing progress, and I tell you that grace goes a

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<v Speaker 7>long way. When you come back and your kids for

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<v Speaker 7>the first time in a long time here you say,

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<v Speaker 7>you know what, I could have handled that better. So like, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>my goodness, the kluephone is going off and my dad's

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<v Speaker 7>answering it. The kluephone is breaking in my mind. Answer

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<v Speaker 7>this same thing you think with your kids. You're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>my goodness, the son the klophone has been ringing for

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<v Speaker 7>like six months. It's founding on your door and it's

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<v Speaker 7>going to be painful if you'll pick it up. So again,

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<v Speaker 7>you want to model the same thing. It's okay to

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<v Speaker 7>say I'm not good at this. Guys, you know I'm

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<v Speaker 7>not good at this. You watch me every day. But

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<v Speaker 7>I want to at least be better at this. And

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<v Speaker 7>you'd be amazed at the forgiveness and grace people give

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<v Speaker 7>each other when they realize you're at least trying to

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<v Speaker 7>aim in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Great stuff, as always, Pastor Chad Hoven can't thank you

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<v Speaker 2>enough for your time and hope you have a great

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<v Speaker 2>rest of your week.

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<v Speaker 6>And uh and thanks as always, sir. Great talking to you.

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<v Speaker 7>Sounds good.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking Pastor Chad Hooven, always great talking with him, always

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<v Speaker 2>incredible wisdom.

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<v Speaker 6>Every single week. We call it plain glass, stained glass.

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<v Speaker 2>All right the roadways, Chuck Ingram, have things gotten better

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<v Speaker 2>at all? Only in a couple of spots, and unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>in a couple of other spots worse. This from the

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<v Speaker 2>Northbound seventy five is that spots low out of Florence

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<v Speaker 2>into downtown where there is an accident near Ezerd Charles.

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<v Speaker 2>The left three lanes are currently blocked off. Cruise are

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<v Speaker 2>also working with a wreck on westbound Fort Washington Ways

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<v Speaker 2>ramp to the sixth Street Viaduct. Further north on seventy five,

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<v Speaker 2>a wreck above Mitchell and at Town Street one on

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<v Speaker 2>the left, one on the right, and east bound two

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five, a record seventy five in Sharonville's backing traffic

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<v Speaker 2>past seven forty seven.

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<v Speaker 6>Chuck Ingram, News Radio seven hundred w WELW.

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<v Speaker 2>Alrighty our WCPO nine first Warning forecast resented by Jennifer

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<v Speaker 2>ketch Mark. It's a whole lot of rain, up to

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<v Speaker 2>an inch total by the time we get through roughly

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow night. Supposed to rain most of the day today,

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<v Speaker 2>most of the night to night night, most of the

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<v Speaker 2>day tomorrow. Our high's only at fifty one degrees, which

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<v Speaker 2>is ten degrees below our October average on a yearly basis.

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<v Speaker 2>By tomorrow night, we're getting down to thirty nine, but

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<v Speaker 2>the clouds will begin to break up, the rain will

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<v Speaker 2>get out of here. We're going to dry up by

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<v Speaker 2>the time we reach Halloween Day, and it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>Halloween night is going to be quite pleasant. And that

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<v Speaker 2>means high school football, playoff football, that kind of thing

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<v Speaker 2>going on. So should be in good shape by the

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<v Speaker 2>time the weekend rolls around. Before we say goodbye, we

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<v Speaker 2>always ask you to think about making a shelter pet

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<v Speaker 2>part of you and your family's lives. I promise you

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<v Speaker 2>they need it, You need it. This is seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati,