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Speaker 1: Just in case you missed it, it's the top five

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Speaker 2: I wonder what other old cronies I could bring on.

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Speaker 2: That was the term used by the offended Kyler Obo,

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Speaker 2: bring on your old cronies.

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Speaker 3: We had Mitchell Lawrence on last week. He's an old crony.

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Speaker 3: He's a Dallas crony. He is. That's true. Wowski. We

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Speaker 3: haven't had him out in the while, that's true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's more wojo Oh really yeah, Woj is Adrian.

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Speaker 2: I think we got to find some way to just

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Speaker 2: distinguish between the two differentiate, among other things, because.

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Speaker 4: Dallas was the longest place you worked other than here, right, yeah,

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Speaker 4: and that was that was five years right. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: exactly it.

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Speaker 5: Bo.

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Speaker 2: It's just like your oldest crony, Bose, it is the

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Speaker 2: oldest crony and they and none of them.

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Speaker 3: Like Kyler Murray. I don't know what it is. I

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Speaker 3: don't know what happened.

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Speaker 2: Something's in the water among all the cronies that you

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Speaker 2: guys all like video times.

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Speaker 3: You're too old for video games.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's you don't get what the kids these days

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Speaker 2: are like Pong.

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Speaker 4: I enjoyed playing Pong. You should bring out with Kyler

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Speaker 4: from the perch at training camp.

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Speaker 3: That shit, shouldn't. It's a beautiful thing, all right? Top five?

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Speaker 3: At five? What do you have? Let's start with Kyler?

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Speaker 3: Why not? Why not?

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Speaker 4: I've got a Kirk Cousins nugget for you specifically as well,

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Speaker 4: and they're both from Diana Rassini. She's she's plugged in,

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Speaker 4: She's plugged in. This is from a couple of hours ago.

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Speaker 4: Now that Kyler Murray's released from the Cardinals is official,

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Speaker 4: the Vikings are expected to target him as a veteran

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Speaker 4: addition to their quarterback room. Sources tell The Athletic, I

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Speaker 4: think we all go yeah. Will you sent me a major?

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Speaker 3: Is it? Mike silver Piece? I haven't read.

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Speaker 2: He's a big koc bobo? Is he kinda so? And

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Speaker 2: he made it sound basically like it's a slam dunk.

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Speaker 2: And this is like the greatest idea in the history

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I did the thing that you're not supposed to do

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Speaker 4: or okay, and I go, this is interesting. I sent

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Speaker 4: it to you, Yeah, because I literally just saw it

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Speaker 4: within the last five minutes. But Russini mentions that he

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Speaker 4: will be taking a visit Kyler Murray to Minnesota and

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Speaker 4: getting a physical. Now there's one sporting news reporter that

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Speaker 4: says he might be on the plane now, so.

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Speaker 3: We track it. We did with FARV. That's the question.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, are we officially on Kyler Watch hashtag Kyler Watch?

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Speaker 4: And does Kyler Murray fly commercial or do they fly

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Speaker 4: him in privately?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Privately? You think so?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're supposed to. I mean we say we're big too.

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Speaker 2: How do you think we finished number one or two

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Speaker 2: in all these surveys and not even in terms of

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Speaker 2: player satisfaction without ever winning a playoff game? Private plane,

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Speaker 2: private planes, there's no question about that.

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Speaker 4: So it could, as we know, theoretically, happened very quickly.

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Speaker 4: We may be on Kyler Watch, so private playing to Egan,

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Speaker 4: I would assume Home and Field is that that would

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Speaker 3: I would assume is that named after Thomas Holman?

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Speaker 5: You know what?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm sorry, I'm the idiot.

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Speaker 4: I'll just go to signature and then shoot right down,

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Speaker 4: all right, that would be my guest. It's not Tom Holman,

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Speaker 4: it's not the not yet the Porters our guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but we're renaming everything, so Lait as Tessla are already.

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Speaker 2: Here, already inspired.

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Speaker 4: Here's the Cousins nugget. Do you know who's expected to

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Speaker 4: Guests expect the Raiders to show interesting Cousins as they

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Speaker 4: What's the way to describe Cousins and Mendoza how they talk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it might be unfair to just to reduce

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Speaker 4: Yeah, those of us that aren't earnest, when we see it,

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Speaker 3: That's correct.

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Speaker 4: It's so earnest, it's two buds, it's so phony. But

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Speaker 4: That's like that. That's interesting.

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Speaker 2: My assumption is the intent is to start Mendoza from

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming if Cousins were to go there, he'd under

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Speaker 2: Because otherwise he's going to go I don't think he'd

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Speaker 4: Last Vikings nugget, they released Jonathan Allen and Hargrave. Hargrave's

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Speaker 4: already gone to the Packers twenty three million, thirteen million

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Speaker 4: He'll make five million dollars in guaranteed money, which is

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Speaker 2: Which one of the Jackals before he was brought back said,

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Speaker 2: matter who you have at quarterback. Yes, and we haven't

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Speaker 4: To be valued again a little bit more. I think

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Speaker 4: Sakuon Barkley changes a lot of it. Yes, there's some

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Speaker 4: that's not again the Gibbs. Those individual don't grow on trees.

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Speaker 4: But nevertheless, Harrison Smith will be a post tune one release.

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Speaker 3: That's a money thing. Correct.

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Speaker 4: Nobody knows exactly what he's doing yet, but at least

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Speaker 4: it buys him time.

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Speaker 4: So that is the Those are the Vikings nuggets, the

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Speaker 4: wondering why we haven't talked about it yet. They did

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Speaker 4: beat the Mammoth. It's Bobby Brinks world. Bobby Brings world.

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Speaker 4: We're all just living in it. If you see him

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Speaker 4: at maynards of his buddies, don't tell Bill Garan and

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Speaker 2: He's Brinky. Some people think it should be Brinker, as

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Speaker 2: in the Brinker. Brinker is in Hans Brinker, which is

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Speaker 2: if he's got a favorite nickname for him already, Bobby Brink.

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Speaker 3: He likes nicknames. He loves you. He's a hockey guy.

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Speaker 3: He's a hockey guy. They all do. And then I.

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Speaker 4: Mentioned finally as we wrap up the Top five at five,

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Speaker 4: it's a late tip wellness plan where I don't watch

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Speaker 3: They were on.

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Speaker 4: Were they on Peacock? Is on Peacock lest so ten

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Speaker 4: I'm a rube. If I watched that game last night,

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Speaker 2: Think it was actually on NBC last night, because if

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Speaker 4: If I watched it on anything and I watched that performance,

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Speaker 3: Todd reading what were you gonna do about this team?

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Speaker 4: But because I went to bed, I got a good

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was not a good offensive performance at all.

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Speaker 2: They forced us into isolation mode with our two big scores,

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Speaker 2: Although we're still allud as a team to play better. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: playoffs as you and our record is not good against

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Speaker 3: It is not. It's well below five hundred against those teams.

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Speaker 2: So if you care about that, and I get it,

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Speaker 2: Phoenix swept US two years ago, and then when they

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Speaker 2: got to the playoffs everything was different. But I don't

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Speaker 2: know how you come out of a game like last

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Speaker 4: the fan. The Wolves yesterday before the game were a

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Speaker 4: three seed. After losing that game, they are a six

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Speaker 4: seed right now. You're in Minnesota, Timberwolves.

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Speaker 2: That's how the gap right now, like you said, in

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Speaker 2: like a game between three and six, which I will

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Speaker 2: continue to say, is why the Orlando game is. Those

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Speaker 3: Team USA World Baseball Classic.

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Speaker 2: Loses to Italy eight to six in front of a

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Speaker 2: This is great, this is wonderful, and I would it

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Speaker 3: And here's the finals, here's the quality. He was wrong.

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Speaker 2: We want to win this game even though our tickets

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Speaker 4: And his inspired a series of just brilliant tweets, which

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Speaker 4: A TRIBAA baseball coach anywhere in any metro area would

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Speaker 3: So we'll see. Is that game the tiebreaker game for

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Speaker 4: I have no idea who's into it. I am not

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Speaker 3: I haven't been.

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Speaker 2: And now though I might, you know, you know me,

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Speaker 2: Kalishaw about the Sam out of Bayo eighty three point

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Speaker 2: Bayo a good basketball play, A good professional basketball player. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: A good player won the title with Toronto right in Kawhi.

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Speaker 2: Regardless, he's been an important player in Miami, although there

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Speaker 3: But what I the issue? Why did they think that

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Speaker 3: And you could say it's kind of unseemly.

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Speaker 2: And part of what I think got it off the

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Speaker 2: Because Mitchell's approaches, I recall it, he basically had it.

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Speaker 3: He's got a chance to get what sixty seventy eighty

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Speaker 2: symptomatic that we'd get somebody finally to pass Kobe, and

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Speaker 2: It's what the league deserves. I'm not willing to take

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Speaker 2: But he's viewed as a worker. He's not viewed as

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But a lot of those ended up having moments

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Speaker 3: why go, what did that have to do?

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Speaker 2: You know, what did that have to do with you know, basketball?

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Speaker 2: don't you think that's the nature of any kind of

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Speaker 4: Get us organically? No, you can't score that many points organic, No,

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Speaker 2: Now what somebody said is, well, does this tell us

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Speaker 2: if if if Bam out of Bay you in this

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Speaker 2: Does that tell us that there may be a chance

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Speaker 2: that's the question. Yes, And who would that be? And

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Speaker 2: there's no stopping him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's three point ball dunks stop him when he

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Speaker 4: he actually becomes an adult. He's not bad scary Fortunately for.

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Speaker 2: Us, he's going to be in the other conference once

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Speaker 2: we move to the East.

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Speaker 2: talk about with him is in a sense it's sports related.

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Speaker 2: In a sense it's political as well. We'll get into

438
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Speaker 2: all of that, involving one of the Iranian national teams

439
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Speaker 2: and a lot of stuff from the Middle East, mining ships,

440
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Speaker 2: exploding dogs and cats living together, et cetera. All of

441
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Speaker 2: that is a coming up after a brief point.

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Speaker 5: I wish the American media would take a great look

443
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Speaker 5: at the views that the people in.

444
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Speaker 3: Congress and find out are they call America or anti

445
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Speaker 3: America at Gessler, because people have got to know whether

446
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Speaker 3: or not their presidents are crump. But I can't trust Obamassler,

447
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Speaker 3: tear down the dish wall. I did nothing wrong at

448
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Speaker 3: the Minneapolis Airport. Senator, You're no Jack Kennedy Usler. And

449
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 3: to help Dan break down all the tough questions in politics.

450
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Speaker 3: It's our own political walk. I feel like a supermodel,

451
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Speaker 3: except like Times ten, it's channel force Kssler with Dan Morero.

452
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Speaker 3: I'm the fan Kessler is indeed in studio. I want

453
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Speaker 3: to start actually with it's it's sports, but it's also pathos.

454
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Speaker 3: It's it's the comminates, where as the cliche go sports

455
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Speaker 3: and real life might indeed intersect. So here's the.

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Speaker 2: I I think, well, I don't know how many people

457
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Speaker 2: are are familiar with this story, and it has to

458
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Speaker 2: do with the Iran with Iran on women's football team

459
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Speaker 2: as in soccer team. I think we call it in

460
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Speaker 2: the women's football may well, maybe it's I don't know

461
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Speaker 2: if it's literally women's football or it's soccer. I'm not

462
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Speaker 2: sure I'd just say soccer. Let's just go with soccer, bet.

463
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Speaker 2: I don't know which it might be at this point.

464
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Speaker 2: And apparently, while in Australia, five players made their decision

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Speaker 2: to defect the idea of soccer in the twenty four

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Speaker 2: hours following Iran's final match of something called the AFC

467
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Speaker 2: Women's Asian Cup, a two nothing loss to the Philippines

468
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Speaker 2: and as athletic guy rights, they faced a near impossible

469
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Speaker 2: choice should they return to Iran. Threats to their safety

470
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Speaker 2: existed on two fronts, both from the Iranian regime leadership,

471
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Speaker 2: angered by the team's decision not to sing the national

472
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Speaker 2: anthem earlier in the tournament, and by the reality that

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Speaker 2: Tehran is now an active war zone, whether in the

474
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Speaker 2: United States and Israeli military strikes. If they remained in Australia,

475
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Speaker 2: they had to consider the faced by their family back home.

476
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Speaker 2: They have families, said one individual direct knowledge. People are

477
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Speaker 2: worried their parents will have had money confiscated or their

478
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Speaker 2: family are being host held hostage, so they have to

479
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Speaker 2: go back and quote, I'm the bus back from the

480
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Speaker 2: final games. Several players invisible distress other figures on the

481
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Speaker 2: bus scene attempting to close the curtains. Their potential escape

482
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Speaker 2: had been planned by the Australian Federal Police and the

483
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Speaker 2: country's Home Affairs Department. The secret back channels used to

484
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Speaker 2: reach the squad. Players met by a government representative and

485
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Speaker 2: a hotel room made aware of the range of options

486
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Speaker 2: on offer, and just after a few hours after midnight,

487
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Speaker 2: the five players were granted humanitarian visas, giving them the

488
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Speaker 2: right to live, work and study in Australia. Now, I

489
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Speaker 2: do believe a sixth player did acclaim asylum early today. However,

490
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Speaker 2: one of those individuals then change their mind asked to return,

491
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Speaker 2: leaving the total number of those to claim humanitarian asylum

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Speaker 2: at six.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine.

494
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Speaker 2: That decision, the dilemma, the pressures that you're feeling at

495
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Speaker 2: a time like that.

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Speaker 3: I can't even beget. You know, we debate a lot

497
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Speaker 3: of stuff here and kid.

498
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Speaker 2: About stuff that we get that I get worked up over,

499
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Speaker 2: and you go, that's not even single a ball. I

500
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Speaker 2: can't even begin to comprehend having that sort of calculation.

501
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Speaker 2: How you decide, what you do, what the ramifications are

502
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Speaker 2: of whichever decision you make might be.

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Speaker 3: It's just horrific to think about, isn't it?

504
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Speaker 5: And everything that has happened, It absolutely is everything that

505
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Speaker 5: has happened in Iran.

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Speaker 3: And we've been talking.

507
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Speaker 5: About war and all of the bombings and the confusion

508
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Speaker 5: here and the death and the violence. But you've got

509
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Speaker 5: real people, real young women who have to make a

510
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Speaker 5: decision about whether they are going back or they are

511
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Speaker 5: going to defect. Now Here is the thing. The Iranian

512
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Speaker 5: government is insisting that they're going to bring them back

513
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Speaker 5: and we'll see what happens. But the choice is impossible

514
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 5: because of this. You've got your family back there and

515
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Speaker 5: the player's family. They could strip the family of money,

516
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Speaker 5: as the New York Times is reporting, or or hold

517
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Speaker 5: them hostage or execute them.

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Speaker 3: I hold nothing. I don't think that.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that this regime, the past one and

520
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 5: the new one, I think they will do anything. And

521
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Speaker 5: I think we're going to find out, by the way

522
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Speaker 5: PS that the hominy, the father of the current Aatola,

523
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Speaker 5: is going to go down as one of the biggest

524
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Speaker 5: mass murderers in the twenty deth century.

525
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Speaker 3: Terrible, horrible cruelty.

526
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Speaker 5: These young women are going to have to make a

527
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Speaker 5: decision based on that. Now, are they going to come

528
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Speaker 5: for the Olympics this summer. That's something I'm not really

529
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Speaker 5: familiar with. If they're going to be coming back, if

530
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Speaker 5: the team is sure allowed, so all of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is a terrible situation.

532
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Speaker 5: I think President Trump is trying to exert some pressure

533
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Speaker 5: to keep them safe, and so is the Australian government.

534
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Speaker 3: But oh man, oh man, why do we have to

535
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Speaker 3: talk about this?

536
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 5: Why is this something that's now suddenly front and center

537
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Speaker 5: for us?

538
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Speaker 2: It's sports is news it is and news is sports.

539
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: I mean, this is crazy that they, like you say,

540
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: you have to calculate. It's not just about you. You

541
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: have to think and the idea that those are the

542
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Speaker 2: kinds of choices you might make if you maybe want

543
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Speaker 2: to take advantage of this opportunity. And by the way,

544
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Speaker 2: even that's got to be scary if you have.

545
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Speaker 3: No associations in Ususralia or no.

546
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Speaker 2: It's like that's you know itself. It could be free

547
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: as hell, but it's also scary.

548
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Speaker 5: Right, Yes, but have you heard how they did this

549
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 5: where there were back channel to other soccer teams, yes,

550
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 5: and then back channel to the Australian governments.

551
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Speaker 3: They meet secretly in a hotel room.

552
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's going to be a hell of a

553
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: story when it's done. Yeah, being able to tell the

554
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: whole story what exactly took.

555
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Speaker 5: There and this does happen now we all remember Saddam

556
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 5: Hussein and what he did in Iraq with the soccer team.

557
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Speaker 3: I mean, he murdered a lot of them got back,

558
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Speaker 3: so you know this is terrible.

559
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Speaker 2: All right, Let's get to some uh stuff from regarding

560
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Speaker 2: the Straight of Horror Moves. I've got three headlines here,

561
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: some of the stuff you have covered in your notes.

562
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: I'll just throw a couple of these things out and

563
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 2: then you can take it wherever you want to. This

564
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Speaker 2: is a Wall Street Journal story from about three hours ago.

565
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: Three commercial ships were struck around the Straight of Horror Moves. Today,

566
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Speaker 2: as Iran stepped up its effort to halt traffic through

567
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Speaker 2: the critical oil conduit, US forces said they had destroyed

568
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Speaker 2: sixteen Iranian mine laying vessels.

569
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Speaker 3: Here's what interested me.

570
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: The US military has turned down requests to escort tankers

571
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Speaker 2: or other civilian ships through the strait, with defense officials

572
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: saying it won't do so until the threat of Iranian

573
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 2: fire has indeed eased. So this is the old unintended consequences.

574
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Speaker 2: Whatever you think we're done, we already won. The war's over.

575
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Speaker 2: What's not over, and we've all oil is still pretty important.

576
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Speaker 2: So give us what we know about all of the

577
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: ramifications and complications involving the Strait of horm Moves.

578
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Speaker 5: As of this moment, I've checked over the last twenty

579
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 5: minutes or so, the Strait of Horror Moves is shut down.

580
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 5: There is no oil coming through. Now this is significant

581
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Speaker 5: because it is rapidly going to have a cascading effect

582
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Speaker 5: on all of us. You've got ships that are empty

583
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 5: trying to get up to get more oil. You've got

584
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 5: ships filled with oil north of the Strait, and then

585
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 5: you've got oil wells that.

586
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Speaker 3: Are being shut down in the country.

587
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Speaker 5: So this entire thing is going to affect not just

588
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 5: gasoline prices, but fertilizer, agriculture, food, jet fuel, everything every

589
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 5: way we operate. The Iranian government has reportedly, according to

590
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Speaker 5: the Wall Street Journal in the New York Times, started

591
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Speaker 5: to drop mines into the Strait.

592
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Speaker 3: And these are very easy.

593
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Speaker 5: It's the only weapon that the Iranians really have right now, because,

594
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Speaker 5: as President Trump has said on multiple occasions, they have

595
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 5: bombed Iran into oblivion pretty much, but they still have this.

596
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 3: These are mines that.

597
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Speaker 5: Are either the size of little coolers, you know, six

598
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 5: pack coolers, or they are the size of refrigerators, and

599
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 5: they can be thrown in there and you can't get

600
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Speaker 5: them out. It's very very difficult. Our mind sweepers are

601
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 5: nowhere near. So here's the thing.

602
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Speaker 3: It's shut down.

603
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 5: President Trump has threatened some action that he is calling

604
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Speaker 5: and I don't know what to believe, but he says

605
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 5: this will be the biggest attack on Iran that the

606
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 5: world has ever seen, with weapons that have only been

607
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 5: thought about, you know, that kind of stuff. So it's

608
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 5: a terrible situation. As all of the attacks on Iran

609
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 5: continue and Iran is attacking other countries.

610
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Speaker 3: That continues.

611
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 5: Israel has bombed Lebanon this afternoon, has Bola. So this

612
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 5: thing is expanding, getting wider and wider. Meanwhile, in the

613
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 5: United States, either the war is ending, or it's going

614
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 5: to go on for a long time, or whenever I

615
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Speaker 5: wanted to.

616
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Speaker 3: We don't know.

617
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 5: There are many different explanations for the reasons and when

618
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Speaker 5: it's going to end.

619
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Speaker 2: Thirty two countries released one hundred million barrels from a

620
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Speaker 2: strategic oil reserve. Can you put that into some kind

621
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Speaker 2: of context. How unusual is that, How big a number

622
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: is This.

623
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Speaker 3: Is extremely unusual.

624
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 5: This is the largest amount that they will let out

625
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 5: of these strategic oil reserves. By the way this was

626
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 5: set up, the oil reserves back in the nineteen seventies.

627
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 5: I'm old enough to remember the gas lines and the

628
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 5: rationing and all of that stuff, and they set up

629
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Speaker 5: this strategic oil reserve for this reason. If there's ever

630
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Speaker 5: a blockage or a blockade of we can't get the oil,

631
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 5: you can let this out slowly and try to lower

632
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 5: the prices. It may not lower the prices enough, but

633
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 5: it could provide some temporary relief while they figure out

634
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 5: a way around this.

635
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: And how much think about this?

636
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 5: Would it be eighteen cents, fifteen cents, We don't know,

637
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 5: ten cents.

638
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: How much on a gallon?

639
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 5: All I know is that in the last seven days

640
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 5: it's gone up about fifty to sixty.

641
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: Cents per allen. Not my problem. I've got an electric car.

642
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 3: See there you go. Yeah, don't you blame me. Okay,

643
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 3: So here's the thing.

644
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 5: Now, maybe we should put extra fees on the electric

645
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 5: car have yeah, yeah, maybe more yeah, but there you go,

646
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 5: because well, as you know, that's not the future. President

647
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 5: Trump has ended all all the subsidies for electric cars,

648
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 5: all future research, all climate everything.

649
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 3: So good luck with that. In the future, we don't

650
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Speaker 3: have electricity.

651
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Speaker 2: All right, Let's say for the sake of this argument

652
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Speaker 2: that tomorrow Donald J. Trump says, We're not We've accomplished

653
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Speaker 2: what we needed to. We've gutted them the whole bit,

654
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: leaving aside, you know, the larger ramifications. A couple people

655
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Speaker 2: have written, if you even accept that premise, which is,

656
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 2: you know, cure victory, Yeah, to clare victory. How do

657
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Speaker 2: you know Israel is going to go along? I mean,

658
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Speaker 2: you know, in some ways we think there's been some

659
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Speaker 2: concert here at the front end. But is there any

660
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Speaker 2: reason to believe Israel is going to say, Okay, you're done,

661
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: We're done to do.

662
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 3: I do not believe that.

663
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Speaker 5: I think that Israel is beginning to expand the war

664
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Speaker 5: throughout the Mid East. It is bombing these countries that

665
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 5: it has wanted to invade or or attack for decades,

666
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 5: and so I do not think that it's going to end.

667
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 5: But if it does, I am okay, call me crazy,

668
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 5: I think it might be a really bad thing. President

669
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Speaker 5: Trump just saying losing interest, Yes, he does in most things.

670
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Speaker 3: I'm ready to go on and say, okay, I'm a cub. Yeah,

671
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: let's do that one.

672
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 5: Because if it ends now, there is going to be

673
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 5: such a mess.

674
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 3: It's almost as.

675
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 5: If you're going to need to finish shit, whatever your

676
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 5: plan was, which we still don't know four weeks, finish it,

677
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 5: figure out what you.

678
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 3: Go from here?

679
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 5: What are you going to leave with the straits of

680
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 5: horn moves block?

681
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: Are you going to leave that you can't handle? I

682
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: mean that you can't allow.

683
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 5: Right, And you're gonna leave all of the enriched uranium?

684
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: And how do you go get that?

685
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 5: That's boots and telling he's saying that that is what

686
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 5: they want to do, right.

687
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 3: But that means people on the boots on the ground, not.

688
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 5: Bocal forces, boots on the ground, and you'd have to

689
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Speaker 5: go in there.

690
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 3: But but it's.

691
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Speaker 5: Not as easy as say, yeah, let's go in and

692
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 5: put it in the back of a truck. You're gonna

693
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 5: have to dig out all of the nuclear facility that

694
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 5: they bombed in June that he said he obliterated, dig

695
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 5: that out and then take nine hundred pounds of enriched

696
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Speaker 5: uranium and put.

697
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: Them on trucks.

698
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 5: You're gonna have to protect it with the air force, military,

699
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 5: take it to an airfield and get it out of here.

700
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Speaker 3: So it ain't easy. So I'd say I don't think

701
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 3: we can leave now. Well, turn around and leave. I

702
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 3: say nay.

703
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 2: Well, that's the question is if you've done enough damage

704
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 2: where you actually you've gone far enough that you can't stop,

705
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: which in of itself is frightening.

706
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 3: And that could be but that could be the case.

707
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 3: But again you.

708
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: Got to calculate out exactly what that means, because once

709
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: you start getting boots in the ground, there's going to

710
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: be realistically a lot more casualties. It's a completely different

711
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: thing than bombing from the air. We've had a few casualties,

712
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: as sadly as it is. What do we know about

713
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: the new guy? He's the son of the last dietolic.

714
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 5: Well, that is really interesting because nobody has seen this person,

715
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 5: and President Trump had.

716
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 3: Said so is he alive? We don't know.

717
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 5: He may have been injured in the attack that killed

718
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 5: his father, his mother, his wife, his sister, and his child.

719
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 5: They were all in that compound then they were all killed.

720
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Speaker 3: He survived.

721
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 5: There is some speculation that he is injured, we don't

722
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 5: know how severely.

723
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Speaker 3: But he hasn't made any public appearance.

724
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 5: So does that mean that the Revolutionary Guard is running

725
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 5: the country?

726
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 3: Probably? So, yeah, this is this is not good.

727
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 5: If we leave now, we just leave that entire mess

728
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 5: with those people with the nuclear capabilities, and then there

729
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 5: it is what do you do now?

730
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Speaker 3: So we don't know anything about him right now?

731
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot of what we don't know.

732
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Speaker 2: We don't have any signs yet that there's such chaos

733
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: there that the leadership that goes deeper than anyone Ayatola

734
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: has in any meaningful way been destroyed enough where you say, okay,

735
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 2: anybody might you know fill in the vacuum, even if

736
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: they had the means to do it. I don't think

737
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 2: yet we have a sense that enough of for the

738
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Speaker 2: revolutionary guard.

739
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Speaker 3: I think I read from an individual who I think

740
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 3: is from the country originally, that the belief is at

741
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 3: the top ends those individuals are very committed to the

742
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Speaker 3: current regardless of this in charge.

743
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: The question is how far down through the depth chart

744
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 2: do you have to go to get to the place

745
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: where there might be a lot of individuals who are

746
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: ready to flee, so to speak, from the regime and

747
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: turn on the regime. That's the great unknown? And are

748
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: you have you eliminated or can you eliminate it enough

749
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: at the top end to encourage those individuals to do whatever,

750
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: because they still we don't know that they have any

751
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: access to any sort of weaponry, any sort of way too,

752
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: even if they wanted to revolt, whether they have it,

753
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: they have the means by which they could start the revolution.

754
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,959
Speaker 3: Correct, That is correct from what I know just from

755
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: reading it.

756
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 5: Over the last month or so, the protesters, the possible

757
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 5: opposition to this regime, most have been murdered, and I

758
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 5: mean mowed down in the streets, executed in prisons. Thirty

759
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 5: thousand dead just from that. So that opposition, including the leaders,

760
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Speaker 5: appears to be gone. If you are going to be

761
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 5: religious leaders. There are several layers, and I think the

762
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Speaker 5: new iatola is probably layer three two three, but there's

763
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Speaker 5: five layers. The country is controlled by the Revolutionary Guard,

764
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 5: which has all of the weapons. The protesters, the opposition,

765
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 5: have none of the weapons. So how do you do that?

766
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 5: President Trump says that it's your time to I've done

767
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 5: what I said I was going to do. I kept

768
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 5: my promise. Now rise up and take over your government.

769
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 5: I don't know how that can happen currently, So I.

770
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Speaker 2: Don't see there've been For example, is it the Shah's

771
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: kid or Grant, it's his sons, his son, the Chavaron's son.

772
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Speaker 2: My assumption is if he was confident that hey it's time,

773
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Speaker 2: he'd a pairachute it in.

774
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: But I don't think he's done that yet.

775
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 5: Well he hasn't, and President Trump has not expressed confidence

776
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Speaker 5: in him.

777
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 3: At first, he did, but you never know where President

778
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 3: Trump is going to be sure so ill, so she's

779
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 3: got to suck up to him a little more. I

780
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: guess sucks up to President you like, I know, I.

781
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 5: Know, and this is an incredible country if but they

782
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 5: don't you know, they don't have to be incredible history. Oh,

783
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 5: it's just our culture, architecture, music, and science, all the

784
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 5: things that we could get from Iran, but it has

785
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 5: been muffled and it's.

786
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: Been a lot of time in a very different culture. Yes,

787
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: all right, let's get a break in. I got a

788
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: little more to get to statewide. I've got a couple

789
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: of fraud stories nationwide that are starting to hit. What's

790
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: starting to happen, and I think it's relevant to here

791
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: is and it might actually be viewed as a relief

792
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: to people here government leaders who feel like they've been

793
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: on the run on this insignificant issue because we're getting

794
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: some very good reporting from places like CBS News, Wall

795
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 2: Street Journal about fraud believe it or not, major fraud elsewhere.

796
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: So we are going to come to find out that

797
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: we're not that special and that there's a lot of

798
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: this stuff beyond our is it chores? I guess it'd

799
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 2: be our borders in this case. Uh Kessler Part two?

800
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 2: And who knows what else? Maybe some gopher talk before

801
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 2: we're done as well. Stay tuned.

802
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 3: Are you familiar Pat Kessler with Kanka Key, Illinois? Kanka Key?

803
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 3: Very well.

804
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 4: I just drove through it twice. Did you really on

805
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 4: the way from Midway to Champagne.

806
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kanka Key, Illinois. Yep.

807
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: Well it may be in the record books. It's possible

808
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: that a world record hailstone was recovered in Kanka Key, Illinois.

809
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: From my Monday Night's Bad Storms. It has been measured

810
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: at eight inches across.

811
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Speaker 3: Eight inches across.

812
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: Now I've got a picture of it where somebody's got

813
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: in their hand. It's like twice the size of their hand.

814
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 2: That's a big unk. Is the size of a soft ball.

815
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Speaker 2: It's enormous. It's bigger than a canned ham. It's it's

816
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: it's I don't know, and do.

817
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 5: You imagine no the damage that does a human or

818
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 5: a car.

819
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Speaker 3: I would think it would.

820
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 5: And God, so I don't know if there's if it's

821
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 5: as climate change, so no part.

822
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Speaker 3: Of worry about it.

823
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Speaker 2: All right, let me ask you about because one of

824
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: the items you have is the possibility that maybe the

825
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 2: uh there's been a shift image wise over the course

826
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Speaker 2: of the last three or four years of the Minneapolis

827
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: Saint Paul Marketplace, especially Minneapolis, and I'm wondering if.

828
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 3: This could add to it.

829
00:43:54,680 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal just dropped a major investigative piece having

830
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: to do I think in its case with a Medicaid scandal.

831
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 2: I believe they were centering it on Indiana, and again

832
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: it was largely related to autism therapy. And then CBS

833
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 2: News has one. It visited grount what they call ground

834
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: zero for hospice fraud La California. One building and this

835
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: kind of follows the pattern here quite frankly, of feeding

836
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: our future pat one building had eighty nine registered.

837
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Speaker 3: Hospices. That's the CBS one.

838
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: The Wall Street Journal one was she charged twenty nine

839
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: million dollars to treat just eighty four kids. The boom

840
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: in autism therapy is Medicaid's fastest growing jackpot. Now are

841
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: we starting to learn that as bad and as embarrassing

842
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: as it's been here and we still might not know

843
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 2: the end of it, that now that those stories have

844
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: been reported and in many cases we've had court cases,

845
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 2: we're going to find out that we're not that special

846
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 2: and that that actually might take some of the heat

847
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: off of us. That there are scandals just waiting to

848
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: be discovered in lots of other places in the United

849
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 2: States of America, Lots of other states the United States

850
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: of America on programs that for various reasons like autism,

851
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 2: have kind of mushroomed over a very short period of years.

852
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 3: This is absolutely true.

853
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 5: Ours is still incredibly difficult and bad what has happened

854
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 5: here in Minnesota. But I think the ones that all

855
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 5: of the fraud Medicaid, Autism, all of the program fraud,

856
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 5: these snap payments, there are many many housing vouchers. There

857
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 5: are so many different kinds of fraud. I think many

858
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 5: of these began during the pandemic. Yeah, right when the guidelines,

859
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 5: when the rules we were made a lay little bit lighter,

860
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 5: made it easier for people to get it. There was

861
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 5: not as much aggressive oversight of all of these to

862
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 5: find out if in fact, that's where.

863
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 2: We're even the infrastructure in place to create the orgy,

864
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: because you're sending this money out man, and it's just

865
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: going And in that case, there was no real AI which.

866
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 5: Is starting to get instituted now to try to root

867
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 5: out this fraud. So yes, I think we are going

868
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 5: to find and I think it was happening over the

869
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 5: last few years, but we were single mindedly focused on

870
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 5: the Minnesota fraud, which again I'm going to say was terrible,

871
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 5: is terrible, but it has been happening in many, many

872
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 5: states in the hundreds of billions of dollars since the pandemic.

873
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 5: And so yes, there are some cases that are starting

874
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 5: to show up. And you mentioned the CBS one. That

875
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 5: one is interesting too because like Minnesota, they never went

876
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 5: to look.

877
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 3: So you had some of these little.

878
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 5: Feeding facilities that were they said they were feeding one

879
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 5: thousands of kids a day. In this case in California,

880
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 5: they found newspapers and mail piled up and nobody in

881
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 5: the place, the lights were out, the rents, it was crazy.

882
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 5: So yes, we are going to start finding that, but

883
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 5: I don't think it's going to change the focus here

884
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 5: on what has happened here?

885
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 3: Is it?

886
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: Would you say it's fair to suggest that to this point,

887
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 2: to this moment in the second Trump administration, that the

888
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: Christie Gnome Higher is the single most spectacular disaster.

889
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 5: Boy, I'm gonna have to think about that for a moment,

890
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 5: more than the FBI director chugging bears in the locker room,

891
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 5: more than Pam Bondy lecturing people about Epstein. I'm just

892
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 5: trying to think, you know, I'm trying to go through

893
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 5: them in my head. Did not expect this question. I

894
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 5: would say, yes, it's a disaster. So if I may

895
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 5: just segue from fraud to corruption, two hundred and fifty

896
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 5: million dollars feeding our future fraud, terrible, Go get them

897
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 5: put him in jail, two hundred and forty million dollars

898
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 5: in a corrupt scheme to build to make ads for

899
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 5: christ You.

900
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 3: Know, I'm showing her on a horse shell. I love that.

901
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I didn't like it. It was very

902
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: very scenic, esthetically pleasing.

903
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 5: But sending videographers on ice raids as they round up

904
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 5: kids and handcuff of Bueila's I mean, come on, yeah,

905
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 5: So is there going to be an investigation? Not yet

906
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 5: but yeah, this is this is amazing, the this is amazing.

907
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 2: And I don't know what the tipping point was that

908
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: convinced the president, even the president that we got that

909
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: I got to do something. And I don't want to

910
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 2: let him off the hook, right because he made the appointment.

911
00:48:59,280 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 3: Correct.

912
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 2: Can talk about her all you want, but it's his

913
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: deal and that's what people have to do.

914
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 3: And I think there's an argument to be made that

915
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 3: she's doing what he wanted her to do exactly. That's

916
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 3: my point. So but what to me struck me?

917
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: And we even played some of the sound bites is

918
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 2: you had now again, I'll admit they were Republicans in

919
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: one case, not one of them not running for reelection.

920
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: You could say it's a lot easier to be braver

921
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: in that situation, But when you had Republicans just pounding

922
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 2: away on the lack of cooperation that her office was

923
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: continuing to give or not give in this case, in

924
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Speaker 2: terms of a number of requests of trying to get

925
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Speaker 2: forth information, and I thought in very effective fashion. I

926
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Speaker 2: can't remember the name of the outgoing it's a Carolina guy, well,

927
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 2: Tom Tillis till Us exactly that that should have been

928
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 2: among the red flags to say, because he wasn't being

929
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 2: what's the word say some of these hearing to me,

930
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: they are very performing.

931
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 3: It was focused and precise about well, let's get serious

932
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 3: about this.

933
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: At every attempt we've gotten to try to get important information,

934
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: we've been stonewalled. And this can't You cannot have an office.

935
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 5: I still haven't received the money there for the disaster

936
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 5: hurricane they had last year. I just sending them off.

937
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 5: Then you had Senator John Kennedy of Luisiana. Yeah, and

938
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 5: he's the fog horn leghorn type guy. I'm so amused.

939
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 5: Look it up, kids, fog horn leghorn. I gotta tell you,

940
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 5: I really like him, and he's so amusing to me,

941
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 5: and he really gets to the point you don't have

942
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 5: to like him. But he went after her too. So

943
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 5: this is President Trump throwing her under the bus. They

944
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 5: did this with his permission. They backed up the bus

945
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 5: and then drove it over her again, I will say,

946
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 5: and I don't think i'm speaking out of school, is

947
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 5: the thing that really started to get President Trump was

948
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 5: what happened here in Minneapolis. Question when he started seeing

949
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 5: that and because it made him look back, and I

950
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 5: think that's always his number one thing.

951
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 3: But he didn't like what he was seeing. He didn't

952
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 3: like what they were doing.

953
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 5: He didn't like the cruelty and the insulting, violence, intimidation,

954
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 5: and he didn't like that.

955
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 3: I agree, but that's what they started it. I agree

956
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 3: that that's what started it.

957
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 2: But I'll say again, the individuals who were doing what

958
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 2: they were doing to create that climate thought they were

959
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 2: doing exactly what he wanted, you know, And that's where

960
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 2: I cannot disagree. Yeah, I just not disagree. That's where

961
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: the accountability is better than it got adjusted.

962
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 3: But the fact is they thought, hey, I thought that's

963
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 3: what you wanted.

964
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 5: And they do this all the time here, I'm doing

965
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 5: what I think you want me to do.

966
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 3: Correct. That gives him a little cover, you know.

967
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 5: A heat shield so that he could say, well, that's

968
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 5: of course, that's not what I want, or thank you

969
00:51:59,000 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 5: so much for doing.

970
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 2: Lastly, I want, in the remaining minutes, you and Guardsey

971
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 2: to get into what I assume might be a spirited

972
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: debate about another item you have here. The start to

973
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 2: be in reporting that the University of Minnesota will not

974
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 2: release oh yeah, student athlete nil numbers. I'm guessing that

975
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 2: Kessler's going to say, that's our information, University of Minnesota,

976
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: that must be made public.

977
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 3: I'm guessing guards you would say.

978
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: Sorry, you want to play in the real world of

979
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 2: college sports, no one else.

980
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 3: Is giving out that information.

981
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 2: That's part of dealing with the real world realities of

982
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: this day to day?

983
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 3: Am I wrong? And how I have guarded you on this?

984
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 5: Yeah?

985
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 4: For my part, Yeah, we can go to break. You

986
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 4: pretty much summarized it beautifully. There's really nothing I need

987
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 4: to ask. All right, there's really nothing I need to add.

988
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely should be made public. I think the university

989
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 5: should be uh, should be more transparent about it.

990
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 3: I get it.

991
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 5: I get that they want to protect privacy. But it's

992
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 5: taxpayer money. I mean, this is money that came that

993
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 5: goes to the athletic departments.

994
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 3: That's not taxpayer money.

995
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 5: Well, it's it's athletic department money from the NC double

996
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 5: A right.

997
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 3: Yes, which is not taxpayer money. It's technically true. I

998
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 3: don't it's definitely true.

999
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, isn't that Where are we talking about the

1000
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 5: twenty point five million dollars settlement.

1001
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 4: Specifically, Yes, that's what they're not releasing in terms of

1002
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 4: their budget and everything else that's that's easily found to

1003
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 4: go for sports dot Com.

1004
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 5: And that's the twenty point now is what I think

1005
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 5: they ought to make public. I also think the nil

1006
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 5: should be made all of the stuff all around the country.

1007
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 3: You want to win?

1008
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 2: Agree with you win? Or do you want to be right?

1009
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: You got to decide which is it. You're the guy,

1010
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 2: You're the route who wants to go to games and

1011
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: cheer winners, and yet you're asking them to do stuff

1012
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: that no one else is asking to do.

1013
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 3: So why are we?

1014
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 5: So? I think every school should. Yeah, I agree with

1015
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 5: that President Trump about this. I think President Trump is

1016
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 5: really great about this issue. I think Congress ought to

1017
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 5: get an involved an executive order, or.

1018
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: You really want them to. I don't trust that. I

1019
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: think I think be careful what you wish for.

1020
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 5: I know, I know there are many unintended consequences. But

1021
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 5: I know the university says student athletes are not employees. Okay,

1022
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,959
Speaker 5: I get that, But this is something that if we're

1023
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 5: supporting the University of Minnesota, and I am.

1024
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 2: You are a big supporter, uh and my sources say

1025
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 2: you might be about to become a bigger supporter.

1026
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 3: Well that's a comment on that. That's very possible. That's

1027
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 3: very possible. You expect to get a plaque or anything.

1028
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: I give you a.

1029
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: Statue all you know what we get as points and

1030
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 2: then better seats, Yeah, you know, amenities or more times

1031
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 2: in the tunnel team.

1032
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 3: You have more time, I can be in the tunnel team.

1033
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

1034
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: You know.

1035
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 5: Yes, I may be giving a little more money depending

1036
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 5: on the outcome of this, this controversy.

1037
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 2: You might be holding the U hostage on this is

1038
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,720
Speaker 2: what you're saying, You want my money, show me some transparency.

1039
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 5: Well, I think this is a publicly funded institution, and

1040
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 5: that's what I will say.

1041
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,479
Speaker 4: Guards that's under and then they'll say exactly what I said,

1042
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 4: not this part of it.

1043
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 5: But you know, so, okay, we're going to get private money.

1044
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 5: We're going to get be privately funded for everything. President

1045
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 5: Trump is privately funding this ballroom, that tearing down the

1046
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 5: White House and building this. That doesn't make it right.

1047
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 3: How was that?

1048
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 4: Like Dan said, do you want to be right or

1049
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 4: do you want to do you want to win? Like

1050
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 4: everybody else?

1051
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 3: You want both? I was actually surprised. So what was it?

1052
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 4: Three or four schools actually are releasing exactly what they're

1053
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 4: doing that surprised me because everyone's very.

1054
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 5: I'm saying it's the right thing to do, and I

1055
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 5: and maybe one school is waiting for other schools to

1056
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 5: do it.

1057
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 3: Why can't we be one of the leaders. That's what

1058
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 3: I want. What your demand? That's what I demanded, you know,

1059
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 3: So you know you should ask Neils Hasselmo, That's what

1060
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 3: you should ask. Remember him. I wasn't he a president

1061
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 3: of the University of Minnesota? Mark Udolf and Nil you

1062
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 3: evergot about? Yeah? This goy, I mean, these are all

1063
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 3: great names.

1064
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 5: Man.

1065
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 3: You know we got to go all right, thank you? Well,

1066
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 3: what's the matter? Six fifteen? I mean we got in,

1067
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 3: we got to a lot of your stuff. Well, look

1068
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 3: at all the notes that I've got so many notes.

1069
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 3: Well you did I think I think you. I think

1070
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 3: we you. I always am sad to leave you. Well,

1071
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 3: we're always you know, that's what it is. Is that

1072
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 3: what it is? Yeah, it is I'm always sad to

1073
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 3: leave you. We'll see it.

1074
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 2: The big you're going to Well, the Gophers playing tonight

1075
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 2: in India is a hard time.

1076
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 4: Sunday for women. Sunday women seven Okay William's Arena.

1077
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 5: Okay, So there is a huge bright spot. It's a

1078
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 5: great opportunity. I say, give the women basketball the money.

1079
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 4: Okay, they're getting some of it. Yeah, I know, but

1080
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 4: you your money, let me finish. Make it public, Make

1081
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 4: it public. That's all he's asking. Transparency comes Sunday and

1082
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 4: ask Mara bron how much she makes.

1083
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 3: Stir it up? Great, they get your thrown out of there.

1084
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 2: Get this guy, say thank you.

1085
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 3: Pat Castler will wrap things up.

1086
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1090
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Speaker 2: if this information is accurate, and it may be both

1091
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Speaker 2: self serving but also accurate. Fox claims that when the

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Speaker 2: Monday night, five million, eighteen thousand viewers were watching.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good for them. That's a good number. That's big.

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Speaker 3: That's a big number.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I think viewership peaked at five points almost

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Speaker 2: five point seven million, the most watched WBC telecast ever.

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Speaker 2: That's actually bigger than I thought it would be. To

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Speaker 2: your point, I don't know what I don't even know

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Speaker 2: what's considered big anymore. We're so fragmented, But I think

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Speaker 2: it's a much I didn't think of me that bit.

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Speaker 4: Well, give you a little perspective. NFL games are always

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00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 4: like twenty to thirty. Yes, of course, college basketball is

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00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 4: having a great year. They're all like one point five

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00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 4: to twos. Okay, that's good perspective. The Rate Bowl was

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00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 4: four point four million this year, which, by the way,

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Speaker 4: doubles like Duke North Carolina basketball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. Everybody loves football. But that gives you

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00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 2: a little bit of a sense that it's a good number.

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Speaker 2: That's all numbers ten mil and you know, oddly now

1111
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,479
Speaker 2: almost being eliminated. If they do get Eke through, maybe

1112
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 2: that's going to even add that whole story, is going

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00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 2: to add a level of anticipation where people might get

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00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 2: even further invested in it. We want to thank our

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Speaker 2: distinguished guests today. Alec Lewis joined between three point thirty

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00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: and four. We talked about a number of vikings, personnel changes, additions, subtractions,

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00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: and then the quarterback situation. It's very possible that by

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Speaker 2: the time we're on the air tomorrow, the Kyler Murray

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Speaker 2: era will have begun. We'll see allegedly, aren't there some

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Speaker 2: reports that he's already on his way here?

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00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 3: For all we know, he might be here.

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00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 2: That's what I've seen, but I don't think that's yet

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Speaker 2: been confirmed.

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Speaker 3: It has been speculated upon.

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Speaker 2: Kessler just wrapped things up with us at five point thirty,

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Speaker 2: and my old buddy Tim Klishaw, longtime Dallas Morning News

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00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 2: columnist who more recently, of course, was over twenty years

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Speaker 2: a panelist, a regular panelist on the ESPN show Around

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Speaker 2: the Horn. He joined and he basically called it what

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Speaker 2: I said, It was a Kyler Murray intervention. He is

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00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 2: a longstanding Cardinals fan. For whatever reason, it's been his team,

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00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 2: and he believes he's warning the marketplace. He's warning the

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00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: Vikings that he believes Kyler Murray is at best a

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00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 2: diminishing quarterback who's already had his best years, and his

1135
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 2: best years weren't all that good. He understands Arizona not

1136
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 2: a great franchise, but he is not convinced that the

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Speaker 2: Vikings will be and their fans will be as delighted

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01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,919
Speaker 2: as a lot of people want to think they will

1139
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 2: be on the basis of the low price obviously the

1140
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,959
Speaker 2: contract will be very helpful and will be very low

1141
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 2: but very small, and you have the fact that he

1142
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:20,479
Speaker 2: has had moments unlike JJ McCarthy. So for whatever that's worth,

1143
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 2: we got into that and went down memory lane on

1144
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 2: some Dallas stuff with him as well, including the time

1145
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 2: I thought I was pinching him in the butt super

1146
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 2: Bowl week and it ended up I was pinching the

1147
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,479
Speaker 2: butt of an individual I didn't know.

1148
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 3: A multi layered story that. It's quite bizarre.

1149
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 2: Walter Payton in a sense, it was inspired by the

1150
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: late great Walter Payton, who did once pinched Tim Kalish

1151
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 2: on the button but not knowing who he was, but

1152
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: annoyed that he was around. There's kicker who'd missed a

1153
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 2: couple kicks in a playoff game, and Peyton felt like

1154
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: the Jackals were circling in a way that he found

1155
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 2: rather unbecoming. I was inspired by that. Wanted to get KYLEA.

1156
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 2: Shaw as a ten because we had that kind of relationship.

1157
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 2: And the guy from behind I thought it was him,

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Speaker 2: It turned out to be Babe Laufenberg, who was once

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01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 2: a quarterback. Yeah, but at that point I think was

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Speaker 2: doing a broadcast work for the Dallas Cowboys. Fortunately for me,

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Speaker 2: Laufenberg didn't deck me because he didn't know me from Adam.

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01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 2: I had explained myself, my god, I'm sorry. I thought

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Speaker 2: you were Tim Kyleishaw, who he knew. That might have

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Speaker 2: might have helped me out a little bit too.

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Speaker 4: Fortunately for all of us, Paul Allen didn't work with

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Speaker 4: you guys at the Dallas Morning News, and he only

1167
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 4: pinches and pokes sides, and not that that would have

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01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 4: been a big difference.

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Speaker 3: What's tomorrow? Tomorrow's Thursday are I'm in tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: We'll have Russo all good from the X we think

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Speaker 4: from Frank Casino Arena.

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Speaker 3: The return of doctor Dan's inbox perhalf.

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Speaker 4: Inbox is good. And do you want to text Kraigers?

1174
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 4: You want me to text Craiger? We can both text him.

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01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 4: That's not a problem. We'll figure out a time. Yeah,

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01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 4: we'd like to get to Kilbourne. It's time because to

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01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 4: La games right back to back. Is he going to

1178
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 4: both of them? He never goes to the Lakers. He

1179
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 4: might be going tonight.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We'll find out. We'll check up a check in on

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Speaker 2: him tomorrow. We'll talk to you three o'clock