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Speaker 1: For Secretary's date. Welcome back to the thirty five Ksey

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Speaker 1: Morning Show, Robert Sprague. It's the pleasure to have you

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Speaker 1: on this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Brian, and be with you.

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Speaker 1: It's pleasure Sprague for Ohio, s p R A g

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Speaker 1: U E for Ohio, the word for not the number

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Speaker 1: four Ohio dot coms where you can find Robert Spegg's website.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you'd appreciate a campaign contribution. Let us start

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Speaker 1: off a treasure of Spragu on your campaign for Secretary

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Speaker 1: of State. What's your motivation for running and how's the

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Speaker 1: campaign going so far?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think, Brian, the cost of our freedom is

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Speaker 2: eternal vigilance, and the threats are constantly evolving. Our enemies

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Speaker 2: certainly would love to be able to control our elections,

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Speaker 2: at the very least be able to influence them. And

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Speaker 2: as your next Secretary of State, I want to make

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Speaker 2: sure that our elections are secure and I also want

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Speaker 2: plan to make sure that our elections are both of those.

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Speaker 1: Well, what would you think, as it currently stands, what

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Speaker 1: is wrong with the current process in what way will

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Speaker 1: you fix it? When you are elected to be Secretary State.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you we do a very good job

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Speaker 2: with elections in the state of Ohio. But there are

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Speaker 2: a few things that I would make sure that we

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Speaker 2: upon the successes that we're already having and make our

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Speaker 2: make sure that we have a front end citizenship check

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Speaker 2: to make sure that there are only Americans voting in

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Speaker 2: Ohio elections. You know, this idea of citizens being able

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Speaker 2: to vote in their government, having a social contract with

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Speaker 2: their government is so important to our constitutional republic. And

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Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, our current Secretary of State,

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Speaker 2: Frank LeRose, who's done a very good job. He led

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Speaker 2: the effort in twenty twenty two to make sure that

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Speaker 2: our constitution was amended to say that only American citizens

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Speaker 2: can vote in Ohio elections in a past with seventy

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Speaker 2: I would do is I'd move to a front end

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Speaker 2: citizenship check. And we can do that if we work

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Speaker 2: with the federal government and the Trump administration make sure

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Speaker 1: Now that's so far. I saw this recent article and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Ohio uses Dominion voting systems. A

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Speaker 1: lot of red flags being weighed about this big company.

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Speaker 1: I guess more than twenty states used Dominion. It just

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Speaker 1: got bought out by a Missouri tech entrepreneur, former Republican

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Speaker 1: As of today, Dominion is gone. Liberty Vote assumes full

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Speaker 1: ownership and operational control. He's a pro paper ballot kind

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Speaker 1: of guy. So does that transfer of dominion ownership mean

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Speaker 1: made me a movement in the right direction. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people are still still hankering to get their paper

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Speaker 2: I do too, and I think that no matter who

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Speaker 2: owns the voting machines, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: you've got to be careful that they're not compromised. And

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Speaker 2: so that's why the second thing I would do as

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Speaker 2: your next Secretary of Status, I would make sure that

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Speaker 2: we move to all paper ballots in every county in

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Speaker 2: And I used to work at Ernst and Young when

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Speaker 2: you can count the paper. And as a matter of fact,

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Speaker 2: that's the requirement of the Ohio Constitution, is that we

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Speaker 2: vote by ballot, which is a secret piece of paper.

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Speaker 2: And being able to check on the paper and tabulate

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Speaker 2: the paper gives you a check on the machines. The

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Speaker 2: paper is never wrong. And so I want to move

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Speaker 2: to all paper ballots in the state of Ohio. Sixty

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Speaker 2: it in the ballot box and then it's tabulated. It's

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Speaker 1: Scored some points in my listening audience for that one. Sir,

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Speaker 1: appreciate that got to have a paper trail, all right,

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Speaker 1: pivoting over in your role as our treasure. What is

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Speaker 1: the Buckeye Loan program? I saw this just announcing you

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Speaker 2: This is a fabulous new program. We want to bring

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Speaker 2: starting there with our brand new Buckeye Business Advantage. If

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Speaker 2: you're a listener right now and you happen to have

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Speaker 2: a small company under one hundred and fifty employees, you

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Speaker 2: will qualify. If you want to expand your balance sheet,

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Speaker 2: if you can take out with the financial institution, your

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Speaker 2: local financial institution, you can take out up to a

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Speaker 2: million dollar loan to expand your business. It could be

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Speaker 2: working capital. This is flexible capital. It could be it

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Speaker 2: interest rate on that million dollar loan by up to

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Speaker 2: three percent for up to two years for you. And

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Speaker 2: that's the big deal, because look, all the federal news

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Speaker 2: is about the lowering of interest rates, correct, And here

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Speaker 2: we are lowering interest rates with the state twenty five

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Speaker 2: a way that we can put our balance sheet to work.

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Speaker 2: The first thing we're doing is we're focusing on manufacturing,

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Speaker 2: because that's our bread and butter. Is a state. October

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Speaker 2: is manufacturing month. And then we anticipate coming out with

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Speaker 2: some other focuses on small businesses. But this is a

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Speaker 2: great thing to help our state bring back jobs, bring

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Speaker 1: Well, and you're still getting points on the loan too.

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Speaker 1: It's not like you're giving it away for free. They

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a great incentive for folks to go

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Speaker 2: Yeah, three point drop was actually real money for a

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Speaker 2: And I love what you said, Brian, because it's not

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Speaker 2: as if we're stepping in as the government and giving

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Speaker 2: a grant. It's actually the private market capitalism at work.

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Speaker 2: You've got to get the loan from a private institution,

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Speaker 2: but we'll do our parts in the back office plumbing

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Speaker 2: of lowering the interest rate.

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Speaker 1: I think that's an important component. That you're still working

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Speaker 1: nature of your business and your credit worthiness. So the

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Speaker 1: bank is actually doing the laboring or of work, or

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Speaker 1: the state the States is backing it up with its

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Speaker 1: own financial resources. I think this sounds like an excellent idea.

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Speaker 2: And there's no risk at the Treasure's office. I mean, ultimately,

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Speaker 1: All right, I will acknowledge my ignorance on the entire topic.

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Speaker 1: I regularly refer to cryptocurrency as like the peace of God,

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Speaker 1: it passes all human understanding, while at least acknowledge it

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Speaker 1: passes Brian Thomas's understanding. Listen, my MENSA membership is worthless

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Speaker 1: when it comes to stuff like this. It doesn't mean anything,

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Speaker 1: and it never has. But what's the story on the

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Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you what. We decided that the Treasure's Office,

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Speaker 2: we could either follow everybody else, all these other states

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Speaker 2: we could lead. And there are a few states out

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Speaker 2: We are going to develop a cryptocurrency payment platform for

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Speaker 2: US dollars. We will not be holding cryptocurrency, but it

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Speaker 1: And briefly, I want to hold you up because I

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Speaker 1: know we only have you this one segment. Sir Robert

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Speaker 1: spa treasurer running for Secretary of State. How do you,

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Speaker 1: again going back to my ignorance on the topic, how

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Speaker 1: one day bitcoin's trading for twenty thousand dollars, the next

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Speaker 1: But the American dollar does not struggle with that level

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Speaker 2: Spragg, that's a great question, Brian, and just real briefly. Bitcoin,

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Speaker 2: obviously digitally is almost instantaneous, and so I guess that's

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Speaker 2: how you deal with the volatility. But there's also stable coin,

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Speaker 2: and stable coin is a digital coin, but it's basically

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Speaker 2: a money market account. It's a share in a money

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Speaker 2: market account, and so it's backed up. For every stable coin,

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Speaker 2: it's backed up by a United States dollar, and then

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Speaker 2: that dollar is in the money market account. It's invested

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Speaker 2: in United States Treasury short term treasury. So it basically

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Speaker 2: transactions in the stable coin type of a digital currency,

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Speaker 2: which will be instantaneous, safer. And the other advantage from

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Speaker 2: the Treasure's office standpoint that people don't think about. When

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Speaker 2: you write a check to the Treasure's office, it does

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Speaker 2: not cost you anything, but it costs the treasure in

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Speaker 2: the state of Ohio a lot because those checks are

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Speaker 2: pieces of paper, and it costs us actually a great

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Speaker 2: deal to process all that paper. Understand So there definitely

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Speaker 2: are advantages of moving into digital currency direction, but we

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Speaker 2: have to be very careful. We're being cautious, we're being prouded.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the prudence and the caution if we enter

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Speaker 1: into the great unknown. Robert Sprague, he's running for Secretary

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Speaker 1: of State. He's currently our treasurer. Help him out on

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Speaker 1: his campaign. Sprague at for Ohio dot com. Robert Spragg,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your willingness to come on the Morning show

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Speaker 1: over the over the over the years and I wish

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Speaker 1: you the best in the future, and I look forward

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Speaker 1: to having you as ohiuse Secretary of State and further

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Speaker 1: conversations down the road, Sir